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July 9, 2024 229 mins
Summary:

Like a bicycle kick goal at minute 95, Sara finally completes editing on a much overdue interview with fellow Carraville author HeyJulien ! 

Sara and Julien talk about the world of football RPF (as in soccer, for all you Yankees); specifically the delightfully odd-couple rivals-to-lovers ship of English football pundits Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher. Other talking points scattered across the pitch include: football as war, derby days and football rivalry; the joys of local non-league football, the Bundesliga and fußballkultur; to switch POV, or not to switch POV; the annoying beauty of David Beckham; and of course, we discuss the tragically under-utilized in fic friendship of Paul Scholes and Gary Neville (or, Scholesy as the Kermit to Gary Neville’s Miss Piggy). 

Join us, if you like! Correction - at 03:27:40 we incorrectly refer to our wonderful fellow Carraville author as ‘player1604’-- their handle is player1064, which is a reference to Gary Neville’s England legacy number. Gary was the 1,064th player to play for England’s National Team. 

 

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Time caps:
  • 00:10:39 - Chelsea v Liverpool result in the Carabao Cup Final AND “Football and Butts”
  • 00:13:17 minutes - Picking an English team as an outside fan, local rivalry in sport, and the mechanisms of tribalism
  • 00:21:10 - Football pride as a substitute for national pride in Germany
  • 00:22:57 - League structure in european football, the purity of the local club, financial doping, and German “fußballkultur”
  • 00:32:57 - A late introduction to HeyJulien ! Julien’s earliest reading and writing memories.
  • 00:36:36 - First encounter with fanfiction and Youtuber RPF
  • 00:42:11 - Path into Sports RPF
  • 00:45:28 - The specific allure of Hockey RPF
  • 00:53:54 - Getting into Football RPF and Carraville
  • 01:11:07 - Carraville fic, start of “Zombies” discussion, and Julien’s real-life plot inspiration
  • 01:20:04 - Excerpt 1, from “Zombies” 
  • 01:39:12 - Strategy and instinct of switching POV’s 
  • 01:59:50 - “The Victorian Era” 
  • 02:06:13 - Excerpt 2, from “The Victorian Era” (apologies from Sara for the botched English accents)
  • 02:23:17 - Cat cameo by Daniel Pickles - and the theme of power in “The Victorian Era”, Gary and Victoria’s friendship, and writing moments that “show” instead of “tell”. 
  • 02:32:27 - The fun of writing about “bad people”, and recurring themes popping up in our works; AND the specific joys of fanfiction enriching “real life”
  • 02:40:36 - “Tasting Syrup On My Tongue”
  • 02:50:45 - The joy of Stevie G and Scholsey in Carraville fics
  • 03:00:46 - Sara’s childhood soccer experience
  • 03:02:49- Rapid Fire Questions!!! 
  • 03:17:21 - Michael Owen Quotes
  • 03:31:00 - Coffee Shop Scenario
  • 03:37:32 - Julien’s fic recs
  • 03:43:11 - Final question- “What do you think it is about sport that lends itself to fiction and fanfiction?”
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