98. Encountering Faith and Embracing Intimacy with God through Prayer With Monika Kirkland
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In this episode, Samantha Semans and Monica Kirkland discuss the power of prayer and how it can transform lives. Monica shares her personal journey of encountering God and how prayer became her passion. They discuss the barriers that can hinder people from praying, such as self-sufficiency, fear of disappointment, and misconceptions about God.
They encourage listeners to identify and overcome these barriers, to pray with authenticity and authority, and to trust in God's goodness and timing. The episode concludes with an invitation to seek God earnestly through prayer and experience the abundant life He offers.
Key Takeaways:
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Monica's journey from a non-religious background to a profound faith in Jesus.
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The significance of starting a prayer life, even when it feels foreign or challenging.
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Understanding and dismantling the barriers that hinder our prayer life.
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The role of humility and authenticity in cultivating a powerful prayer practice.
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Strategies for combating lies and misconceptions about God's character.
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The value of community in identifying blind spots and growing spiritually.
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How to approach God with childlike faith and boldness in prayer.
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The importance of surrendering our expectations to embrace God's answers to prayer.
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Hey friends, welcome to another episode ofthe Abundant Woman Collective podcast.
I'm your host Sam and we are here with oneof my best friends, Monica Kirkland.
Monica Kirkland, thank you.
I don't know why I said Monica Kirkland,but Monica, welcome.
Thanks so much for coming on.
I'm so honored to be here.
You are one of my favorite people and thisis so much fun getting to sit and chat
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with you.
So thank you so much.
I am super excited.
Monica has a heart for you listeners.
But first, before we get into what we'regonna talk about, can you just tell us a
piece of your story?
Yeah, so I met Jesus in about the fourthrow of youth group.
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I was sitting in the sanctuary and I didnot grow up in the church.
I actually only came because of thepromise of cute boys.
I was very emo punk rock, like skatergirl, and I was told that there were
really cute boys there.
And so of course, that's really the onlyreason that I went.
And I showed up in this church and what Ididn't expect was that I would have
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an incredible encounter with the Lord.
And so I remember sitting there in thesanctuary and just had the Holy Spirit
come upon me in a powerful way.
And I kept going back week after week andended up putting my faith in Jesus, making
him Lord of my life.
And that really changed everything for me.
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I had really no...
biblical church foundation in my life.
My dad was an atheist.
My mom was kind of an on again, off againCatholic.
And I really didn't know anything aboutJesus, about the church or about the
Bible, but God in his goodness, he justmet me there.
This young broken girl from a broken home.
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And it really just changed the wholetrajectory of my life.
And I'm so, so grateful for that encounterthat day in the church.
Yeah, thanks for sharing.
I love that.
I love how we all started, you know, ourorigin stories, because now look, we just
get to see this piece of you now, but it'sgreat to know Rewind back then.
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And you, my friend, have a heart forprayer.
And so how, I wanna know, how did yourprayer life sort of start?
Like, how did you figure out prayer sinceyou weren't raised in the church?
Yeah, so I remember one time I went tothis prayer gathering that the youth group
was putting on and I remember, you know,we gathered in this circle and everyone
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was kind of taking turns going around andpraying.
And I was so like amazed hearing thesepeople pray because they were praying so
just earnestly and it was so impactful.
But here I was feeling like, wow, I can'tpray like that.
Like, I don't know any of this.
It just, it all felt so foreign, so hard,so challenging for me.
But there was something about it that mademe continue coming back because whatever
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it was that they had, like I wanted that.
I wanted to grow.
I wanted to stretch.
I wanted to learn.
And so it was awkward and as uncomfortableas it felt.
The Lord just began taking me on thisjourney of seeing him move through the
power of prayer, through the prayers ofhis people.
And lo and behold that.
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awkward, uncomfortable teenage girl.
You know, now like prayer is my thing I'mmost passionate about.
I get to lead prayer in the local church.
I get to lead prayer for events, includingyours.
And I get the great honor of praying overpeople all the time.
And it's just, it's one of the mostbeautiful, one of the most impactful
spiritual practices that we have.
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And I know if God can transform the prayerlife of this awkward, uncomfortable
teenage girl, then I believe he can do itfor all of us.
And...
There are certain things that hinder us inour prayer life or become barriers to keep
us from seeking God eagerly and earnestlyin prayer.
But I believe that God wants us to come toHim, to come before His throne of grace.
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He wants to welcome us like a fatherwelcomes his child, his children.
And so I'm just passionate about helpingwomen in particular really encounter God
and cultivate intimacy with Him throughthe power of prayer.
So good.
And one of the things I want to encourageyou with is because for people like who
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have been raised in the church, right?
We have, see, I'll say I have, I'm surethere's we, but I'll speak for myself in
that I've seen prayer get twisted andtainted and abused even, even like the
prayer teams, you know, or women thatgather to prayer have abused the privilege
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of prayer.
And so,
even the the words prayer team or likethose kind of things for events or for
churches or whatever, sometimes give offlike a rough, you know, like, man, I don't
I don't want proteins.
But what I've seen through you and yourheart is the complete opposite, which
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we'll talk about, you know, the barriers,but your heart is authentic for prayer,
you not only have a passion to pray, or itlike you do it, you're not just, you know,
talking about it, you do it.
But that it's a genuine authenticrelationship with the Lord is where like
the foundation and then your prayer comesthrough that versus like, we're not
praying for a gossip chain or we're notpraying.
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Because I'm better than you and I'm holierthan you.
So let me lay hands on you like you're theway I've seen you work in prayer at events
and in private has been so beautiful.
And so like redeeming to like me or peoplewho have been hurt by that that it's just
I'm excited for you.
I'm excited for what the Lord is doing andI'm excited that you are doing it for the
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event.
But that is hard having seen it.
And so for those listening that havechurch her and we're talking about prayer
and maybe your feathers are a littleruffled a little bit.
Girl, this ain't that.
So just so you know, it's not that.
Thank you, Fran.
I appreciate that so much.
And I think, you know, that is my heart,that we would pray with authenticity and
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with the authority that we have in Jesus'name.
And I think a lot of people are, you know,their kind of radar goes off when people
aren't coming authentically or they'recoming with that holier than thou
approach.
But really we're all coming in humilitybecause it's not me or my prayers that are
going to impact you.
It's an encounter with the Holy Spirit.
It's an encounter with God.
And so I think, you know, humility in allthings, of course, as we approach God and
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as we pray for each other.
So good, yeah, so that brings us rightinto, what are some of the barriers that
you've seen or that you know that preventpeople from praying?
Yeah, so the big one that I struggledwith, you know, coming from a broken home,
being a daughter of addicts, you know,when you come before your parents, you can
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often feel like a burden, like aninconvenience, like, okay, I just need to
pull myself together.
I need to not have any needs.
I need to not be a burden.
Don't ask for anything.
And so I think for me that created this,this kind of barrier of self -sufficiency,
like I had to be fully independent.
I had to be self -reliant.
Yeah, I could pray for other people andhelp with their needs, but
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I can't ask for help and I can't haveneeds.
And so I remember, you know, the Lord justhumbling me in that way.
It happened when I was really strugglingin this new season after I had my
daughter, Cora, we were struggling withnursing, she wasn't sleeping.
And I really just came to the end ofmyself.
And that was where the Lord was able tostep in and do some of his best work.
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Cause I just kind of came to the endmyself and cried out to God for help.
And it was in that, that he showed me,
that I can come before him as a daughter.
Like it's okay to have needs.
Having needs doesn't make you needy, itjust makes you human.
Like we are designed to come to God and toallow him to meet our needs.
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Hebrews 416 says, let us then approachGod's throne of grace with confidence so
that we may receive mercy and find graceto help us in our time of need.
And so it's not a matter of if we'll havea need, but when.
And when we do, are we able to push pastthat pride, that self -sufficiency, that
lie of self -reliance and, you know, I amwoman, I am independent, like I can do
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this.
Can we push past that and really come toGod confidently and humbly and cry out to
him for help?
And so that is a barrier, I think, for alot of women.
It can also look like this barrier of, Idon't want to...
you know, God's got enough on his plate.
Like we got like wars, we got inflation,we got like tornadoes, we got things
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happening and I can't bother God with myproblem.
And so I think we have to realize that Godis good.
He is omniscient.
He's ever present.
And yes, there are needs all around theworld, but that doesn't minimize the need
that you have.
And it doesn't minimize that God loves youas his child and he wants to step in for
you because he's an intimate, relational,personal God.
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I think if we transfer our idea, notwholly, like don't hear me, but to if
you're a mom, your kids, if you're a wife,your spouse, if you are single, your
closest relationship, right?
If we transfer that same idea to ourclosest relationship, I would be
heartbroken if my kids thought I was toobusy for them to ask for something, for
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them to tell me the details of their life.
I would be heartbroken and probablyannoyed.
My husband did the same thing if he waslike, Sam is too busy doing all the
things, so I can't come to her and tellher that I need.
I love them, so my desire is to helpfulfill those needs.
And so if we take that tiny glimpse ofthat picture and then times it a million
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for our father in heaven, it's the sameidea amplified.
He created us for a relationship with him.
He created us as humans.
He knows our needs, right?
He knows our wants and desires, but howmuch greater is it for us to actually
bring them to him?
And like, you're right, and humbly submitourselves to him.
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I think when we don't do that, it is self-sufficiency and it's pride.
It's saying, like, I'm good God, I gotthis.
And I'm totally guilty of that.
I've totally operated in like, I'm mom, Ican do all the things.
I'm a working woman.
I'm a...
all the things and so I can handle this, Igot this.
Like I'll just give you my big stuff.
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You don't need anything else on yourplate.
And I just think now like, man, I probablybroke the Lord's heart a tad bit because I
want my people to come to me for thosethings too, right?
Well, and it's like in a friendship, youknow, you meet somebody, you're getting to
know them, but really what forges afriendship, what forges that intimacy is
when you, like you call it, you have amessy friend.
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You have a friend who can see you in themiddle of the mess and love you in it.
And I think it's true of God too.
The more vulnerable, the more authentic wecome before him, the more intimacy is
cultivated in our relationship with him.
And so I think we have to get out of that.
that mindset of it's kind of that orphanmindset where we just, we don't want to
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come to God or maybe we're too timid.
We don't want to be vulnerable andauthentic.
Maybe we have this wrong view of God thatif we do come before him, that he's just
going to scold us and finger point at usand that he's not going to be gracious to
us.
And so we have to address those barriers,maybe those lies that we believe about
God's character and nature.
We have to come to the word of God, whichwill help combat some of those lies that
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people believe.
And we have to know that we, first andforemost, I know you talk about this a
lot, we are sons and daughters.
It says in Romans 8, 15 through 17, itsays, the spirit you received does not
make you slaves so that you live in fearagain, rather the spirit you received
brought about your adoption to sonship.
And by him we cry Abba, father.
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The spirit himself testifies with ourspirit that we are God's children.
And so it's that in prayer, it's thatcrying out Abba, father, you know, like,
my daughter when she needs me, like shedoes not hesitate.
She comes right to me.
She grabs my leg.
She crawls into my lap for comfort, forhelp.
And in the same way, like that beautifulpicture, we can come to God as children.
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And that is the most beautiful gift whenyou really allow that truth to penetrate
deep down into your heart.
I love that you hinted at it a little bit,but what okay, so if I Maybe I'm listening
and realizing.
I think I have a misconception of theLord.
Maybe I am operating in Orphan spirit andalso like he doesn't need any more
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problem, you know any of those commonmisconceptions and you guys I do say
common because I feel like they are commonthat we would think certain things of the
father that don't represent him and so ifthis sounds like you then listen in but
What, how do you combat yourmisconceptions?
What do you do to learn more about thefather?
that's a great question.
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I think the first thing is identifying itbecause we all have blind spots and we all
operate in things we don't see.
And so like for me, I really wasn't likeaware that I was operating in this self
-sufficient, self -reliant spirit.
It wasn't until I was humbled by the Lordthat he showed me that that's how I'd been
operating and I needed to be able to cometo him and to be dependent on him and him
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alone and not on myself that...
You know, that's a heavy burden.
Like we're not, we can't carry the weightof our problems.
We can't carry the weight of other peopleand their expectations.
And, you know, I can't mother alone.
Like I need it all in partnership with theHoly spirit.
And so first you have to, you know, beaware of it.
You have to identify it.
And so you can ask the Lord, God, I feellike there's, you know, this barrier
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coming between us.
God, would you help show me what are thebarriers or maybe these faulty beliefs or
lives that I've.
lies that I've believed about yourcharacter, about your nature.
will you show those to me, reveal those tome, and then help me to, to walk in truth.
So I think the first step is naming it,identifying it, being aware of it.
like I come from a long line of addicts.
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There's a lot of addiction in my family.
And it's like the first step when they goto AA is to admit you have a problem.
Right.
And so similarly, it's like, you have tohumble yourself and admit, wow, I think
this might be a problem for me.
And I want to work at it, work it out.
in partnership with God and work throughit because I don't want this barrier to be
there.
And so, you know, that really is the mostimportant step.
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And then another thing you can do is whenGod highlights that to you, you know, like
some of the verses I shared, just begin todwell on and meditate on those verses.
Like if you're struggling with an orphanspirit, you know, write out that verse
from Romans 8 .15, you know, put it on apost -it note, like put it in your mirror,
put it in your car, just begin to meditateon the truth because...
The enemy, he whispers lies, you know,he's our accuser and he's gonna whisper
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those lies in your ear.
And the best way to combat it is to dwellon the truth, to meditate on scripture.
And this is a daily thing, something wehave to repeatedly do because we forget,
we go about our lives.
And even though we know in our head thatwe're, you know, a son or daughter, our
behavior might not reflect it becausewe're not really walking out the truth.
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And so identify it.
pray that God would help you and show youhow to walk in freedom, dwell on the
truth, focus on scripture.
And then I think this right here, likethis community, this confession, you know,
being able to walk that out with otherpeople in community is so, so important
for your spiritual wellness.
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Your spiritual wellness.
Totally finding friends and those messyfriends that will lovingly call it out in
you too.
There's been times where I've said thingsand I would always say them.
Like I used to put myself down, but Ididn't mean to, but like just that's what
it was.
Like I can't even think of an example, butsaying like, that's so stupid of me or
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something.
And I finally had a friend call me out andlike, that's not stupid of you, Sam.
Like that's a mistake.
And I was like,
yeah, I didn't really mean it.
And she's like, but you kind of say that alot.
Like you kind of play, you know, thosewords a lot.
And I was like, I had no, I, you know, Ihad no idea.
So having loving Christian people who arerunning after the Lord together to help
call that out in you, you know, is, issuper, super helpful and super healthy,
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like healthy relationships and have peoplethat will pray for you too.
Like our text message and group messagesare.
full of prayers and I can post in thesetext messages and groups knowing that
they're not like, okay, I'll pray for you,but then like, maybe don't.
I know that like these friends are prayingfor me and like interceding and that just
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comes from like raw relationship andvulnerability.
And if we can do that with our friends,then how much more can we do that with the
father who loves you so very much.
Yes, that's so true.
I know I've had friends call me that outon that too.
Like, hey, you know, you always want tohelp me, but whenever I offer to help you,
you turn me down or, you know, you like,and they'll just remind me and speak that
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truth to me.
Hey, you're not a burden.
Like I want to be able to help you.
And for me, that was like, wait, you meanI'm like, I.
I'm not at inconvenience.
You want to help me?
You want to be there for me?
Like, it's just, you need those reminders.
You need those people.
And I know there's a lot of people outthere who like, I want that and I don't
have it.
And I want to encourage you in that topray about it because I really feel like I
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prayed you into my life.
I've prayed our circle into my lifebecause I was in a season of feeling
really lonely in my calling, lonely in myministry, lonely for friendship and moving
from.
California to Tennessee to a new state andI just really began to seek God and to
pray for the type of friendship that Ihave now and so I'm telling you get on
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your knees pray about it and I believe Godcan do it.
And there's something like there's when wealign, right, it's biblical when we align
our will with the fathers, we're notpraying for a million dollars.
We're praying that the Lord would bringhealthy friendships, biblical influences,
you know, those that's the heart of thefather, the father wants that for you.
And the same way that when I'm asking HolySpirit, like reveal to me, I feel like I'm
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dealing with this or I'm self sufficient,like, or I have no idea.
So many times I'll be like, I have noidea, but I feel like there's something
blocking me from intimacy or, you know,like reveal that to me.
And the difference condemnation is here tocondemn you.
That's not of the father.
So if you, if that's, you know, like youcan get rid of that, but conviction is a
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loving draw, a heart stop, if you will, topull yourself back or pull you back to
him.
And so when I don't know what to pray,
Like and I know that I need to pray forsomething and I'm not I can't name it You
know, then I will ask like Lord Can youreveal that to me and you guys his desire
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is for a closer relationship with you?
so so he will and we can lovingly takethat and Go back to him run back to the
father's arms and and I feel like I'vemissed So many times when I've relied on
self -sufficiency and I've or I've justbeen fine.
I'm fine.
We're good
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And not coming to the father for needsthat I miss Glimpses and deeper intimacy
of him.
Yes, but like glimpses of his charactertoo because the closer I get to him the
more I see of him and so if I'm Self-reliant or whatever if I'm prideful if I
if I have a hurt in my heart that I'm notready to let go of then I'm missing him be
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my Redeemer or I'm missing parts of himbeing my provider.
I'm missing him
be my complete healer because he wantsthat for us.
And so that's an encouragement to you.
I don't feel bad about that now.
But I just realized that I might havemissed some of those glimpses where friend
I don't want you to miss that.
Like I want you to see everycharacteristic of him, you know,
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That's so good.
And I think kind of hinting on what yousaid earlier, I think one of the other
common barriers is like, I'm scared topray over that because if I pray about it
and God doesn't answer my prayer, then I'mgoing to be really disappointed and hurt
by God.
And so as like this form of self-protection, we don't pray about things.
And this is actually a big problem even inchurches.
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There's
sadly churches all across the country whoaren't even offering prayer ministry at
all or prayer team because they fear thatthey'll give false hope to people.
And I think this is such a tragedy and amissed opportunity because part of prayer
is saying not my will but yours be done.
But that doesn't mean we don't ask.
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Paul knew this very well because he prayedthree times that God would remove the
thorn in his flesh.
And God's reply was, my grace issufficient for you.
But he still came and he still askedrepeatedly and persistently.
And so I think we have to be willing tocome to God persistently praying for
things that we're longing for.
And yet also know that when his answer isno or not yet or wait that we can say,
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okay, not my will, but yours be done.
But I just would hate to see people out offear of a no or fear of a wait or, you
know, fear of unanswered prayer.
to miss out on that connection andintimacy that comes when we seek him in
prayer.
Absolutely.
And it's one of those things in the faiththat...
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When we're asking, you know, like yousaid, not mine, but that will be done.
Then we're releasing, we're submitting,we're, which we're surrendering, which is
hard.
That's a hard word.
And then, but that means we're alsosurrendering the expectations because
sometimes he also moves and it doesn'tlook like how we wanted it to move.
Like it didn't look like this.
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So therefore you didn't answer this.
I like seeing this, I, you get it whenyou, when someone passes, I prayed for
healing.
I prayed for healing and yes, my heart isbroken, but God, you didn't show up here.
And maybe his answer was complete and fullhealing in eternity.
And that's so hard to have conversateabout when you're in the middle of it,
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right?
When you're sitting in grief, but hisanswers don't always look like what we
pictured.
And part of that is because he hasimmeasurably more than we can ask, think
or imagine, right?
And so when we're surrendering, not mywill,
but thy will be done.
That means his outcome, his results.
Our expectations are released and we getto watch, which is hard guys, but watch
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his work be done, whether it's doneinstantly or it takes 10 years.
Like we get to wait.
We get to.
I know, I always say, you know, there aretimes when I've, when in prayer I've seen
the miraculous happen.
Like I've seen people be healed.
I've seen them set free.
I've seen them delivered.
I've seen barren wombs open and restored.
Like I have seen God move in themiraculous and it is amazing.
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But there are also times where thebreakthrough, the answered prayer, it
looks differently than how I think it'sgoing to look.
And yet it was also just as beautifulbecause
The breakthrough may not have happened inmy circumstances or in that answered
prayer, but it happened in me.
I was like, my hope was restored.
I encountered the joy and the peace of Godin my heart, in my mind, the abundance
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found in Him.
And so sometimes the answers aren't whatwe want or what we expect, but we know
that God is good and that His plans for usare good and He's working all things
together for our good.
And so, yeah, there's an element to prayerthat comes with trust and surrender.
But still ask, you know, we come beforeHim boldly and we want to pray with
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authenticity, with authority in Jesus'name, and we can ask for these things and
ask God to move.
Yeah, I feel like the both and is it'sboth there are miracles.
There are things that he is doing.
He is actively present right now in 2024than he was back in Bible times, right?
He is still performing miracles.
He is still doing things.
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And there are times which you again see inthe Bible as well of waiting and, and
wrestling in and that's you know, so it'sboth and I am reminded of like,
If you've ever heard children pray, howfun it is to listen to children pray.
They pray that their great -grandmas,dogs, foots, toes would be healed.
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You know what I mean?
Or like, their stuffed animal would bestitched back together miraculously.
I mean, just the faith like a child, theirprayers are unashamed.
They are free.
They are, I see God as...
as God.
And so I ask all these crazy, fun, biglittle things in his name.
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And so somewhere along the way, right, ofgrowing up and being adults, we lose that
childlike faith.
We lose that, I'm going to pray for mystuffy to be healed magically, you know,
miraculously, not magically, sorry.
But you know, like we lose that andinstead the end we get, you know, mindset
issues and, and identity issues and
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All of these the hurts and all thesethings come and sort of I see like
barriers like onions like barriers andlayers between us and the father and so
Even peeling back or allowing him to peelback and in partnering like you said with
him like these things That are keeping youfrom the father Just start now like
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literally wait a few minutes
till the episode's over, I'm just kidding,and then do it.
But start today, don't let time lapse fromyou hearing this encouragement, because
you're listening for a reason, to sittingwith a father.
I mean, sit in your car in the shower.
I don't care, somewhere private, and justask him.
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The Lord show me, reveal to me.
Is it pride?
Is it self -sufficiency?
Is it hurt?
Is it I'm too busy?
Whatever it is, right?
It's that easy.
Amen.
Yes, it's that easy.
And you know what I love about prayer isit's also accessible.
You know, when I began really prayingdeeply, I was in the midst of just the
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deep trenches of motherhood with four kidsand jobs and, you know, juggling marriage
and ministry and all the things.
And what I love about prayer is, you know,I didn't always have a lot of time.
I didn't always have a lot of money, a lotof help that I could give, but prayer
was...
a really meaningful and very accessibleway that even I, as a busy mother, could
offer.
I could offer prayer.
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And so that's what I did.
And it really changed everything,transformed my life.
It is truly one of the most remarkable,extraordinary spiritual practices that we
have.
So I can't say enough things about it.
Start where you are.
Start in your car.
You don't need to go to a prayer closet ora prayer room.
If you have one, great.
But you can start.
right where you are.
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Like I've had some of my most powerfulprayers at my kitchen sink or as I'm in
the car picking up my kids from school.
And so, you know, we can meet with Godwhenever, wherever, and He's just right
there ready and waiting to meet with us.
which is so cool.
We get to come to him.
I'm always, when we have theseconversations, I'm always like, what is
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the word?
Like baffled, I don't know.
I don't know what the word is.
But.
And off, and off his, yes.
Yeah.
how cool is it?
And so I love your encouragement today.
Before we wrap up and talk about yourpodcast and where to find you, can you
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just you've been doing this the wholetime, but can you give the women listening
just an encouragement?
Yeah, I just love to encourage women,especially, you know, Mother's Day is
coming up.
I'm sure when this airs, we'll be justpast that.
But for the women listening, you know, Ialways tell people revival starts with
you.
It starts with you right where you are.
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It starts in your own heart, in your ownmind as you seek Jesus in your everyday
life.
And true abundance, joy, and peace, it'savailable to you right now in Christ
Jesus.
And so,
as you go about your day -to -day life, asyou seek Him like this, that's that
ordinary everyday revival.
And it starts with you and it starts withme.
And so I just encourage you to seek Godearnestly through prayer.
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He wants to hear from you.
It is communion.
It is connection and fellowship with ourCreator, with this majestic God, this
Creator of the heavens and the earth.
Like what a wonder and a mystery and amiracle that we get to meet with Him and
encounter Him and that He desires to knowus intimately.
And so whatever that looks like for you inthis season, as you navigate your life and
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your day -to -day demands and thedistractions and the noise of our busy
modern lives, I just want to encourage youthat God is right there and that he
desires to know you and that you can praywith authenticity, with authority, and
that you can have just such a deep andmeaningful prayer life and that in that
you will see God move and work in waysthat you never dreamed.
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So good, yes and amen.
All right, friend, where can we find youand social stalk you and all the things?
Yes.
So I hang out a lot over on Instagram.
It's at Monica Karglin, Monica with a K,because I'm German.
And I have my podcast, Inner Revival,which you can find on Spotify and Apple
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and YouTube and all the things.
So, yep, we talk a lot aboutsanctification and revival and prayer and
all the things over on the Inner Revivalpodcast.
So.
So fun.
And you can also see Monica this November15th and 16th at the Be Loved Co
-conference, not Co -conference, sorry.
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The links for all of those and to findMonica and to say hi are below.
Thank you friends so much for blessing uswith this episode.
thank you so much for having me.
I love you, Sam.
Hey friends, welcome to another episode ofthe Abundant Woman Collective podcast.
I'm your host Sam and we are here with oneof my best friends, Monica Kirkland.
Monica Kirkland, thank you.
I don't know why I said Monica Kirkland,but Monica, welcome.
Thanks so much for coming on.
I'm so honored to be here.
You are one of my favorite people and thisis so much fun getting to sit and chat
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with you.
So thank you so much.
I am super excited.
Monica has a heart for you listeners.
But first, before we get into what we'regonna talk about, can you just tell us a
piece of your story?
Yeah, so I met Jesus in about the fourthrow of youth group.
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I was sitting in the sanctuary and I didnot grow up in the church.
I actually only came because of thepromise of cute boys.
I was very emo punk rock, like skatergirl, and I was told that there were
really cute boys there.
And so of course, that's really the onlyreason that I went.
And I showed up in this church and what Ididn't expect was that I would have
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an incredible encounter with the Lord.
And so I remember sitting there in thesanctuary and just had the Holy Spirit
come upon me in a powerful way.
And I kept going back week after week andended up putting my faith in Jesus, making
him Lord of my life.
And that really changed everything for me.
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I had really no...
biblical church foundation in my life.
My dad was an atheist.
My mom was kind of an on again, off againCatholic.
And I really didn't know anything aboutJesus, about the church or about the
Bible, but God in his goodness, he justmet me there.
This young broken girl from a broken home.
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And it really just changed the wholetrajectory of my life.
And I'm so, so grateful for that encounterthat day in the church.
Yeah, thanks for sharing.
I love that.
I love how we all started, you know, ourorigin stories, because now look, we just
get to see this piece of you now, but it'sgreat to know Rewind back then.
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And you, my friend, have a heart forprayer.
And so how, I wanna know, how did yourprayer life sort of start?
Like, how did you figure out prayer sinceyou weren't raised in the church?
Yeah, so I remember one time I went tothis prayer gathering that the youth group
was putting on and I remember, you know,we gathered in this circle and everyone
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was kind of taking turns going around andpraying.
And I was so like amazed hearing thesepeople pray because they were praying so
just earnestly and it was so impactful.
But here I was feeling like, wow, I can'tpray like that.
Like, I don't know any of this.
It just, it all felt so foreign, so hard,so challenging for me.
But there was something about it that mademe continue coming back because whatever
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it was that they had, like I wanted that.
I wanted to grow.
I wanted to stretch.
I wanted to learn.
And so it was awkward and as uncomfortableas it felt.
The Lord just began taking me on thisjourney of seeing him move through the
power of prayer, through the prayers ofhis people.
And lo and behold that.
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awkward, uncomfortable teenage girl.
You know, now like prayer is my thing I'mmost passionate about.
I get to lead prayer in the local church.
I get to lead prayer for events, includingyours.
And I get the great honor of praying overpeople all the time.
And it's just, it's one of the mostbeautiful, one of the most impactful
spiritual practices that we have.
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And I know if God can transform the prayerlife of this awkward, uncomfortable
teenage girl, then I believe he can do itfor all of us.
And...
There are certain things that hinder us inour prayer life or become barriers to keep
us from seeking God eagerly and earnestlyin prayer.
But I believe that God wants us to come toHim, to come before His throne of grace.
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He wants to welcome us like a fatherwelcomes his child, his children.
And so I'm just passionate about helpingwomen in particular really encounter God
and cultivate intimacy with Him throughthe power of prayer.
So good.
And one of the things I want to encourageyou with is because for people like who
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have been raised in the church, right?
We have, see, I'll say I have, I'm surethere's we, but I'll speak for myself in
that I've seen prayer get twisted andtainted and abused even, even like the
prayer teams, you know, or women thatgather to prayer have abused the privilege
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of prayer.
And so,
even the the words prayer team or likethose kind of things for events or for
churches or whatever, sometimes give offlike a rough, you know, like, man, I don't
I don't want proteins.
But what I've seen through you and yourheart is the complete opposite, which
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we'll talk about, you know, the barriers,but your heart is authentic for prayer,
you not only have a passion to pray, or itlike you do it, you're not just, you know,
talking about it, you do it.
But that it's a genuine authenticrelationship with the Lord is where like
the foundation and then your prayer comesthrough that versus like, we're not
praying for a gossip chain or we're notpraying.
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Because I'm better than you and I'm holierthan you.
So let me lay hands on you like you're theway I've seen you work in prayer at events
and in private has been so beautiful.
And so like redeeming to like me or peoplewho have been hurt by that that it's just
I'm excited for you.
I'm excited for what the Lord is doing andI'm excited that you are doing it for the
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event.
But that is hard having seen it.
And so for those listening that havechurch her and we're talking about prayer
and maybe your feathers are a littleruffled a little bit.
Girl, this ain't that.
So just so you know, it's not that.
Thank you, Fran.
I appreciate that so much.
And I think, you know, that is my heart,that we would pray with authenticity and
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with the authority that we have in Jesus'name.
And I think a lot of people are, you know,their kind of radar goes off when people
aren't coming authentically or they'recoming with that holier than thou
approach.
But really we're all coming in humilitybecause it's not me or my prayers that are
going to impact you.
It's an encounter with the Holy Spirit.
It's an encounter with God.
And so I think, you know, humility in allthings, of course, as we approach God and
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as we pray for each other.
So good, yeah, so that brings us rightinto, what are some of the barriers that
you've seen or that you know that preventpeople from praying?
Yeah, so the big one that I struggledwith, you know, coming from a broken home,
being a daughter of addicts, you know,when you come before your parents, you can
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often feel like a burden, like aninconvenience, like, okay, I just need to
pull myself together.
I need to not have any needs.
I need to not be a burden.
Don't ask for anything.
And so I think for me that created this,this kind of barrier of self -sufficiency,
like I had to be fully independent.
I had to be self -reliant.
Yeah, I could pray for other people andhelp with their needs, but
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I can't ask for help and I can't haveneeds.
And so I remember, you know, the Lord justhumbling me in that way.
It happened when I was really strugglingin this new season after I had my
daughter, Cora, we were struggling withnursing, she wasn't sleeping.
And I really just came to the end ofmyself.
And that was where the Lord was able tostep in and do some of his best work.
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Cause I just kind of came to the endmyself and cried out to God for help.
And it was in that, that he showed me,
that I can come before him as a daughter.
Like it's okay to have needs.
Having needs doesn't make you needy, itjust makes you human.
Like we are designed to come to God and toallow him to meet our needs.
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Hebrews 416 says, let us then approachGod's throne of grace with confidence so
that we may receive mercy and find graceto help us in our time of need.
And so it's not a matter of if we'll havea need, but when.
And when we do, are we able to push pastthat pride, that self -sufficiency, that
lie of self -reliance and, you know, I amwoman, I am independent, like I can do
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this.
Can we push past that and really come toGod confidently and humbly and cry out to
him for help?
And so that is a barrier, I think, for alot of women.
It can also look like this barrier of, Idon't want to...
you know, God's got enough on his plate.
Like we got like wars, we got inflation,we got like tornadoes, we got things
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happening and I can't bother God with myproblem.
And so I think we have to realize that Godis good.
He is omniscient.
He's ever present.
And yes, there are needs all around theworld, but that doesn't minimize the need
that you have.
And it doesn't minimize that God loves youas his child and he wants to step in for
you because he's an intimate, relational,personal God.
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I think if we transfer our idea, notwholly, like don't hear me, but to if
you're a mom, your kids, if you're a wife,your spouse, if you are single, your
closest relationship, right?
If we transfer that same idea to ourclosest relationship, I would be
heartbroken if my kids thought I was toobusy for them to ask for something, for
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them to tell me the details of their life.
I would be heartbroken and probablyannoyed.
My husband did the same thing if he waslike, Sam is too busy doing all the
things, so I can't come to her and tellher that I need.
I love them, so my desire is to helpfulfill those needs.
And so if we take that tiny glimpse ofthat picture and then times it a million
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for our father in heaven, it's the sameidea amplified.
He created us for a relationship with him.
He created us as humans.
He knows our needs, right?
He knows our wants and desires, but howmuch greater is it for us to actually
bring them to him?
And like, you're right, and humbly submitourselves to him.
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I think when we don't do that, it is self-sufficiency and it's pride.
It's saying, like, I'm good God, I gotthis.
And I'm totally guilty of that.
I've totally operated in like, I'm mom, Ican do all the things.
I'm a working woman.
I'm a...
all the things and so I can handle this, Igot this.
Like I'll just give you my big stuff.
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You don't need anything else on yourplate.
And I just think now like, man, I probablybroke the Lord's heart a tad bit because I
want my people to come to me for thosethings too, right?
Well, and it's like in a friendship, youknow, you meet somebody, you're getting to
know them, but really what forges afriendship, what forges that intimacy is
when you, like you call it, you have amessy friend.
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You have a friend who can see you in themiddle of the mess and love you in it.
And I think it's true of God too.
The more vulnerable, the more authentic wecome before him, the more intimacy is
cultivated in our relationship with him.
And so I think we have to get out of that.
that mindset of it's kind of that orphanmindset where we just, we don't want to
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come to God or maybe we're too timid.
We don't want to be vulnerable andauthentic.
Maybe we have this wrong view of God thatif we do come before him, that he's just
going to scold us and finger point at usand that he's not going to be gracious to
us.
And so we have to address those barriers,maybe those lies that we believe about
God's character and nature.
We have to come to the word of God, whichwill help combat some of those lies that
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people believe.
And we have to know that we, first andforemost, I know you talk about this a
lot, we are sons and daughters.
It says in Romans 8, 15 through 17, itsays, the spirit you received does not
make you slaves so that you live in fearagain, rather the spirit you received
brought about your adoption to sonship.
And by him we cry Abba, father.
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The spirit himself testifies with ourspirit that we are God's children.
And so it's that in prayer, it's thatcrying out Abba, father, you know, like,
my daughter when she needs me, like shedoes not hesitate.
She comes right to me.
She grabs my leg.
She crawls into my lap for comfort, forhelp.
And in the same way, like that beautifulpicture, we can come to God as children.
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And that is the most beautiful gift whenyou really allow that truth to penetrate
deep down into your heart.
I love that you hinted at it a little bit,but what okay, so if I Maybe I'm listening
and realizing.
I think I have a misconception of theLord.
Maybe I am operating in Orphan spirit andalso like he doesn't need any more
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problem, you know any of those commonmisconceptions and you guys I do say
common because I feel like they are commonthat we would think certain things of the
father that don't represent him and so ifthis sounds like you then listen in but
What, how do you combat yourmisconceptions?
What do you do to learn more about thefather?
that's a great question.
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I think the first thing is identifying itbecause we all have blind spots and we all
operate in things we don't see.
And so like for me, I really wasn't likeaware that I was operating in this self
-sufficient, self -reliant spirit.
It wasn't until I was humbled by the Lordthat he showed me that that's how I'd been
operating and I needed to be able to cometo him and to be dependent on him and him
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alone and not on myself that...
You know, that's a heavy burden.
Like we're not, we can't carry the weightof our problems.
We can't carry the weight of other peopleand their expectations.
And, you know, I can't mother alone.
Like I need it all in partnership with theHoly spirit.
And so first you have to, you know, beaware of it.
You have to identify it.
And so you can ask the Lord, God, I feellike there's, you know, this barrier
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coming between us.
God, would you help show me what are thebarriers or maybe these faulty beliefs or
lives that I've.
lies that I've believed about yourcharacter, about your nature.
will you show those to me, reveal those tome, and then help me to, to walk in truth.
So I think the first step is naming it,identifying it, being aware of it.
like I come from a long line of addicts.
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There's a lot of addiction in my family.
And it's like the first step when they goto AA is to admit you have a problem.
Right.
And so similarly, it's like, you have tohumble yourself and admit, wow, I think
this might be a problem for me.
And I want to work at it, work it out.
in partnership with God and work throughit because I don't want this barrier to be
there.
And so, you know, that really is the mostimportant step.
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And then another thing you can do is whenGod highlights that to you, you know, like
some of the verses I shared, just begin todwell on and meditate on those verses.
Like if you're struggling with an orphanspirit, you know, write out that verse
from Romans 8 .15, you know, put it on apost -it note, like put it in your mirror,
put it in your car, just begin to meditateon the truth because...
The enemy, he whispers lies, you know,he's our accuser and he's gonna whisper
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those lies in your ear.
And the best way to combat it is to dwellon the truth, to meditate on scripture.
And this is a daily thing, something wehave to repeatedly do because we forget,
we go about our lives.
And even though we know in our head thatwe're, you know, a son or daughter, our
behavior might not reflect it becausewe're not really walking out the truth.
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And so identify it.
pray that God would help you and show youhow to walk in freedom, dwell on the
truth, focus on scripture.
And then I think this right here, likethis community, this confession, you know,
being able to walk that out with otherpeople in community is so, so important
for your spiritual wellness.
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Your spiritual wellness.
Totally finding friends and those messyfriends that will lovingly call it out in
you too.
There's been times where I've said thingsand I would always say them.
Like I used to put myself down, but Ididn't mean to, but like just that's what
it was.
Like I can't even think of an example, butsaying like, that's so stupid of me or
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something.
And I finally had a friend call me out andlike, that's not stupid of you, Sam.
Like that's a mistake.
And I was like,
yeah, I didn't really mean it.
And she's like, but you kind of say that alot.
Like you kind of play, you know, thosewords a lot.
And I was like, I had no, I, you know, Ihad no idea.
So having loving Christian people who arerunning after the Lord together to help
call that out in you, you know, is, issuper, super helpful and super healthy,
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like healthy relationships and have peoplethat will pray for you too.
Like our text message and group messagesare.
full of prayers and I can post in thesetext messages and groups knowing that
they're not like, okay, I'll pray for you,but then like, maybe don't.
I know that like these friends are prayingfor me and like interceding and that just
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comes from like raw relationship andvulnerability.
And if we can do that with our friends,then how much more can we do that with the
father who loves you so very much.
Yes, that's so true.
I know I've had friends call me that outon that too.
Like, hey, you know, you always want tohelp me, but whenever I offer to help you,
you turn me down or, you know, you like,and they'll just remind me and speak that
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truth to me.
Hey, you're not a burden.
Like I want to be able to help you.
And for me, that was like, wait, you meanI'm like, I.
I'm not at inconvenience.
You want to help me?
You want to be there for me?
Like, it's just, you need those reminders.
You need those people.
And I know there's a lot of people outthere who like, I want that and I don't
have it.
And I want to encourage you in that topray about it because I really feel like I
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prayed you into my life.
I've prayed our circle into my lifebecause I was in a season of feeling
really lonely in my calling, lonely in myministry, lonely for friendship and moving
from.
California to Tennessee to a new state andI just really began to seek God and to
pray for the type of friendship that Ihave now and so I'm telling you get on
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your knees pray about it and I believe Godcan do it.
And there's something like there's when wealign, right, it's biblical when we align
our will with the fathers, we're notpraying for a million dollars.
We're praying that the Lord would bringhealthy friendships, biblical influences,
you know, those that's the heart of thefather, the father wants that for you.
And the same way that when I'm asking HolySpirit, like reveal to me, I feel like I'm
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dealing with this or I'm self sufficient,like, or I have no idea.
So many times I'll be like, I have noidea, but I feel like there's something
blocking me from intimacy or, you know,like reveal that to me.
And the difference condemnation is here tocondemn you.
That's not of the father.
So if you, if that's, you know, like youcan get rid of that, but conviction is a
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loving draw, a heart stop, if you will, topull yourself back or pull you back to
him.
And so when I don't know what to pray,
Like and I know that I need to pray forsomething and I'm not I can't name it You
know, then I will ask like Lord Can youreveal that to me and you guys his desire
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is for a closer relationship with you?
so so he will and we can lovingly takethat and Go back to him run back to the
father's arms and and I feel like I'vemissed So many times when I've relied on
self -sufficiency and I've or I've justbeen fine.
I'm fine.
We're good
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And not coming to the father for needsthat I miss Glimpses and deeper intimacy
of him.
Yes, but like glimpses of his charactertoo because the closer I get to him the
more I see of him and so if I'm Self-reliant or whatever if I'm prideful if I
if I have a hurt in my heart that I'm notready to let go of then I'm missing him be
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my Redeemer or I'm missing parts of himbeing my provider.
I'm missing him
be my complete healer because he wantsthat for us.
And so that's an encouragement to you.
I don't feel bad about that now.
But I just realized that I might havemissed some of those glimpses where friend
I don't want you to miss that.
Like I want you to see everycharacteristic of him, you know,
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That's so good.
And I think kind of hinting on what yousaid earlier, I think one of the other
common barriers is like, I'm scared topray over that because if I pray about it
and God doesn't answer my prayer, then I'mgoing to be really disappointed and hurt
by God.
And so as like this form of self-protection, we don't pray about things.
And this is actually a big problem even inchurches.
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There's
sadly churches all across the country whoaren't even offering prayer ministry at
all or prayer team because they fear thatthey'll give false hope to people.
And I think this is such a tragedy and amissed opportunity because part of prayer
is saying not my will but yours be done.
But that doesn't mean we don't ask.
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Paul knew this very well because he prayedthree times that God would remove the
thorn in his flesh.
And God's reply was, my grace issufficient for you.
But he still came and he still askedrepeatedly and persistently.
And so I think we have to be willing tocome to God persistently praying for
things that we're longing for.
And yet also know that when his answer isno or not yet or wait that we can say,
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okay, not my will, but yours be done.
But I just would hate to see people out offear of a no or fear of a wait or, you
know, fear of unanswered prayer.
to miss out on that connection andintimacy that comes when we seek him in
prayer.
Absolutely.
And it's one of those things in the faiththat...
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When we're asking, you know, like yousaid, not mine, but that will be done.
Then we're releasing, we're submitting,we're, which we're surrendering, which is
hard.
That's a hard word.
And then, but that means we're alsosurrendering the expectations because
sometimes he also moves and it doesn'tlook like how we wanted it to move.
Like it didn't look like this.
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So therefore you didn't answer this.
I like seeing this, I, you get it whenyou, when someone passes, I prayed for
healing.
I prayed for healing and yes, my heart isbroken, but God, you didn't show up here.
And maybe his answer was complete and fullhealing in eternity.
And that's so hard to have conversateabout when you're in the middle of it,
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right?
When you're sitting in grief, but hisanswers don't always look like what we
pictured.
And part of that is because he hasimmeasurably more than we can ask, think
or imagine, right?
And so when we're surrendering, not mywill,
but thy will be done.
That means his outcome, his results.
Our expectations are released and we getto watch, which is hard guys, but watch
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his work be done, whether it's doneinstantly or it takes 10 years.
Like we get to wait.
We get to.
I know, I always say, you know, there aretimes when I've, when in prayer I've seen
the miraculous happen.
Like I've seen people be healed.
I've seen them set free.
I've seen them delivered.
I've seen barren wombs open and restored.
Like I have seen God move in themiraculous and it is amazing.
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But there are also times where thebreakthrough, the answered prayer, it
looks differently than how I think it'sgoing to look.
And yet it was also just as beautifulbecause
The breakthrough may not have happened inmy circumstances or in that answered
prayer, but it happened in me.
I was like, my hope was restored.
I encountered the joy and the peace of Godin my heart, in my mind, the abundance
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found in Him.
And so sometimes the answers aren't whatwe want or what we expect, but we know
that God is good and that His plans for usare good and He's working all things
together for our good.
And so, yeah, there's an element to prayerthat comes with trust and surrender.
But still ask, you know, we come beforeHim boldly and we want to pray with
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authenticity, with authority in Jesus'name, and we can ask for these things and
ask God to move.
Yeah, I feel like the both and is it'sboth there are miracles.
There are things that he is doing.
He is actively present right now in 2024than he was back in Bible times, right?
He is still performing miracles.
He is still doing things.
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And there are times which you again see inthe Bible as well of waiting and, and
wrestling in and that's you know, so it'sboth and I am reminded of like,
If you've ever heard children pray, howfun it is to listen to children pray.
They pray that their great -grandmas,dogs, foots, toes would be healed.
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You know what I mean?
Or like, their stuffed animal would bestitched back together miraculously.
I mean, just the faith like a child, theirprayers are unashamed.
They are free.
They are, I see God as...
as God.
And so I ask all these crazy, fun, biglittle things in his name.
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And so somewhere along the way, right, ofgrowing up and being adults, we lose that
childlike faith.
We lose that, I'm going to pray for mystuffy to be healed magically, you know,
miraculously, not magically, sorry.
But you know, like we lose that andinstead the end we get, you know, mindset
issues and, and identity issues and
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All of these the hurts and all thesethings come and sort of I see like
barriers like onions like barriers andlayers between us and the father and so
Even peeling back or allowing him to peelback and in partnering like you said with
him like these things That are keeping youfrom the father Just start now like
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literally wait a few minutes
till the episode's over, I'm just kidding,and then do it.
But start today, don't let time lapse fromyou hearing this encouragement, because
you're listening for a reason, to sittingwith a father.
I mean, sit in your car in the shower.
I don't care, somewhere private, and justask him.
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The Lord show me, reveal to me.
Is it pride?
Is it self -sufficiency?
Is it hurt?
Is it I'm too busy?
Whatever it is, right?
It's that easy.
Amen.
Yes, it's that easy.
And you know what I love about prayer isit's also accessible.
You know, when I began really prayingdeeply, I was in the midst of just the
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deep trenches of motherhood with four kidsand jobs and, you know, juggling marriage
and ministry and all the things.
And what I love about prayer is, you know,I didn't always have a lot of time.
I didn't always have a lot of money, a lotof help that I could give, but prayer
was...
a really meaningful and very accessibleway that even I, as a busy mother, could
offer.
I could offer prayer.
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And so that's what I did.
And it really changed everything,transformed my life.
It is truly one of the most remarkable,extraordinary spiritual practices that we
have.
So I can't say enough things about it.
Start where you are.
Start in your car.
You don't need to go to a prayer closet ora prayer room.
If you have one, great.
But you can start.
right where you are.
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Like I've had some of my most powerfulprayers at my kitchen sink or as I'm in
the car picking up my kids from school.
And so, you know, we can meet with Godwhenever, wherever, and He's just right
there ready and waiting to meet with us.
which is so cool.
We get to come to him.
I'm always, when we have theseconversations, I'm always like, what is
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the word?
Like baffled, I don't know.
I don't know what the word is.
But.
And off, and off his, yes.
Yeah.
how cool is it?
And so I love your encouragement today.
Before we wrap up and talk about yourpodcast and where to find you, can you
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just you've been doing this the wholetime, but can you give the women listening
just an encouragement?
Yeah, I just love to encourage women,especially, you know, Mother's Day is
coming up.
I'm sure when this airs, we'll be justpast that.
But for the women listening, you know, Ialways tell people revival starts with
you.
It starts with you right where you are.
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It starts in your own heart, in your ownmind as you seek Jesus in your everyday
life.
And true abundance, joy, and peace, it'savailable to you right now in Christ
Jesus.
And so,
as you go about your day -to -day life, asyou seek Him like this, that's that
ordinary everyday revival.
And it starts with you and it starts withme.
And so I just encourage you to seek Godearnestly through prayer.
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He wants to hear from you.
It is communion.
It is connection and fellowship with ourCreator, with this majestic God, this
Creator of the heavens and the earth.
Like what a wonder and a mystery and amiracle that we get to meet with Him and
encounter Him and that He desires to knowus intimately.
And so whatever that looks like for you inthis season, as you navigate your life and
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your day -to -day demands and thedistractions and the noise of our busy
modern lives, I just want to encourage youthat God is right there and that he
desires to know you and that you can praywith authenticity, with authority, and
that you can have just such a deep andmeaningful prayer life and that in that
you will see God move and work in waysthat you never dreamed.
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So good, yes and amen.
All right, friend, where can we find youand social stalk you and all the things?
Yes.
So I hang out a lot over on Instagram.
It's at Monica Karglin, Monica with a K,because I'm German.
And I have my podcast, Inner Revival,which you can find on Spotify and Apple
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and YouTube and all the things.
So, yep, we talk a lot aboutsanctification and revival and prayer and
all the things over on the Inner Revivalpodcast.
So.
So fun.
And you can also see Monica this November15th and 16th at the Be Loved Co
-conference, not Co -conference, sorry.
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The links for all of those and to findMonica and to say hi are below.
Thank you friends so much for blessing uswith this episode.
thank you so much for having me.
I love you, Sam.
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