October 6, 2024 • 48 mins
What if you could relive your childhood adventures with Scooby-Doo? Join us as we stroll down memory lane, revisiting the 2002 "Scooby-Doo" film that captured our imaginations in the early 2000s. From watching it in segments during school recesses to experiencing it on the big screen with family, we share how this quirky movie became a part of our childhood collections. We laugh about the humor that flew over our heads back then and the memorable plot twist involving the mischievous Scrappy-Doo. Plus, hear our musings on the intriguing changes made from its original R-rated script to a family-friendly adventure.
The laughter continues as we explore the film's nods to the Scooby-Doo universe, from a ghost with bunny rabbit ears reminiscent of classic villains to Pamela Anderson's unexpected cameo. We let our imaginations run wild with playful speculations about how comedic genius Sasha Baron Cohen might have added his flair to the film. The movie's island setting sparks comparisons to "Zombie Island," offering fresh perspectives on how the gang's adventures might have evolved. We also dive into character transformations post-breakup, and how these shifts contributed to reshaping the beloved franchise.
Our spooky musings don't stop there. We also recount thrilling childhood experiences at theme parks, where tales of vampires and peculiar rides stoked our imaginations and fears. The conversation even touches on whether Scooby-Doo and the gang would brave notorious attractions like Disneyland. Finally, we reflect on the darker origins of the film, including its creative process and James Gunn's influence, pondering how a more self-aware version could have looked. Join us for a light-hearted reflection on a peculiar yet beloved adaptation, packed with humor and heartfelt memories.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, and like I can like, give it out to people for
free-ish.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I don't know, you might be able to.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
I can't really sell that.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'll show you what they do on to you Like.
I'll show you some stickers Ibought off there before that
somebody else.
I mean, it wasn't approved byDisney and they still made them,
so I'll show you them later.
Welcome back to the BackseatCritics.
My name is RJ.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
My name is RJ, my name is Andrew, and this is the
podcast where we review moviesthat you should steer clear of,
and this week we're talkingabout 2002's Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh no, I said peak that you peaked that Future
Andrew, we're so sorry justdon't listen to it with
headphones on, you're fine yeah,I'm turning down your gain,
dude leave me alone you knowwhat?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
you lost that privilege why, you lost extra
gain.
You have to earn that back okay, that's fine but 2002's
scooby-doo.
Do you want to?
Do you want to talk about it?
What, what, what's, what's yourhistory with this movie?
Because this came out we were10 years old, yeah, so it was
(01:17):
about um fifth grade yeah fifthgrade, ish, maybe fourth.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
it might have been a few theaters when we were in
fourth grade, but about fifthgrade, I think, is when it came
out on VHS, maybe.
Yeah, my history when I firstsaw this actually the day I saw
this movie first of all we hadto get a permission slip to
watch this movie.
It was in school.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Really yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
They made a whole permission slip thing and as a
kid we were also agreeing toskip recess to watch this movie.
I don't know why, but we had toskip recess and we did it in
sections.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I mean every 30 minutes, because that's all you
got for recess at the time.
Sorry, you had to watch thismovie in segments.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, so it was about four recesses that it took to
watch the whole movie, becauseyou had to wait for everybody to
get into the room.
You would grab your lunch.
You'd go into the classroomwhere they're playing it it
wasn't even my classroom and uhyeah.
So one day actually, I forgotmy lunch and um, but I had four
dollars in my pocket.
Four dollars I had five dollarsbecause I was a hustler back in
(02:19):
the day and I'd sell kids.
I'd buy yugioh cards with thefake classroom money and sell
them for real money, and so Ihad $5 in my pocket.
Didn't have lunch, so I boughtfive king-size Reese's candy
bars.
Oh, and I had five king-sizeReese's candy bars while
watching the first, what wasthat?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Still.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh no, I ate those.
I ate those while watching themovie, and that's kind of how I
started was watching, watchingthis movie through through that
process of through recess and,um, I think later on my family
did end up renting the moviethrough Hollywood video.
Rest in peace, um.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know your family passed.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Oh no, hollywood video.
Um, hollywood video, but yeah,that's kind of in, and after
that, obviously, it played on WBand it was kind of one of those
things, this weird channelflipping that we would be like
let's throw this on.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So I've seen this movie quite a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I remember seeing this again like fourth, fifth
grade, I think I saw this in thetheaters with my folks.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh, you went to a theater, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I was a enormous scooby-doo fan when I was a kid
yeah, who wasn't?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
it was a good.
It's a good show.
I mean, if you hate scooby-doo,you might want to get checked
out man, I, uh, you know, otherkids were collecting batman
comics.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I had scooby-doo comics that's pretty rad so
that's where I was at withscooby-doo.
Um, yeah, no, my parents tookme to see this and at the time I
had enjoyed this, except forthe scrappy do at the end.
Spoiler alerts, yeah.
And then I saw this, I think,the christmas, following my
(03:57):
family.
We get together with anotherfamily and they threw on a movie
yeah, and we watched this andagain I'm like, yeah, this is
cool, but I started to pick upon some of the uh, some of the
window, indie windows, anywindows indie windows.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I'm like wait a second here that's a dirty joke
and your family's like no morescooby-doo for andrew yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
so no more scooby-oo for Andrew, but no I.
I want to say I liked thismovie as a kid.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It was fun.
My go-to was Zombie Island.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
For this movie.
Zombie Island was the oh no,the movie Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They did a remake of that recently.
Not a remake, but a return toOkay, yeah, yeah, they did a
remake of that recently.
Not a remake, but Return toZombie Island.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I still the mic here.
I still haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's kind of silly because they actually go back to
the island and they don't evenknow they're there.
They're like this place seemsreally familiar in that movie
weird yeah, it's just like waita second, you guys, they play it
off like cleverly, or is itjust gimmicky?
No, it's very gimmicky, oh yeahthe movie itself is fine, but
(05:21):
yeah, you're like why?
Why did you say that line?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
you didn't need to say that line, that's a bummer,
yeah, um, so yeah, no, we've gotextensive history with this
movie oh, absolutely um, yeah,no, we, uh, we actually have a
shrine here, oh we do toscooby-doo in yeah At an
undisclosed location.
There's candles surrounding astatue of Scooby.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We have this movie poster, signed by Matthew
Lillard, in our studio.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We sacrifice a dog once a week.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Whoa, whoa.
No animals were harmed in themaking of this episode of the
Backseat.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Critics.
They weren't harmed, they werekilled.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And PETA is now going to be coming in.
Okay, this is probably anon-safe zone for pets, that's
okay.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Anyways, You've got a couple dogs right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Sure, we'll call them dogs, but anyways, one-minute
summary go, yeah.
So basically, the scooby-doogroup gets introduced to the
movie and they decide to breakup within the first 10 minutes
of the movie.
two years later, down the road,they all get invites to zombie
island in which they find outspooky island in which they find
(06:44):
out that kids are college kids,are being possessed and turning
into creatures.
Later on, it's revealed thatscrappy doo is behind this mess,
and then scrappy doo wants totake scooby doo's soul, and then
daphne saves the day with a bigdisco light ball.
(07:05):
All the souls are put back intotheir original bodies and
Scrappy-Doo dies.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, he doesn't die.
He shrivels into a littlesausage.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He shrivels back into his original form and is
arrested.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, into a little sausage.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
What's that look for?
But no, so okay, but before wedive in okay this episode.
Yeah, sorry, I bumped your micthere oh, you're fine um before
we dive in on this episode we'regonna.
We're gonna do our quizquestion and we're gonna swing
right back into the plot.
Okay, what was original writingfor this movie?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
um, I don't like what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Imdb rotten tomatoes, no no, no, like, like, like
parental guidance oh, I'm gonnasay pg-13 okay I'm gonna stick
with that pg-13.
Okay, we'll swing back.
Okay, so we start off.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The movie they're catching a little ghost person
with bunny rabbit ears.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, they tried to make it similar to like an old
school Scooby-Doo character alittle bit there.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It did.
Yeah, do you notice?
So this guy, if you later inthe movie when Scooby's running
from the actual monsters, yeah.
And he runs up.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Shaggy catches him and Scooby's like monsters,
monsters, yeah, yeah and the guyin the bunny costume comes out
of the forest.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, and they're like oh ha ha Similar vibe as
far as the costume goes.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
A little bit.
I can see that Like it's just,like it's just not glowing, not
as clownish.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And there was like a t-shirt instead of like the full
costume.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think it's kind of funny too.
The first line in this movie isactually Daphne saying you're
giving me a wedgie.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Wait, that was the first line.
I didn't even catch that.
Yeah, I was just like whatForeshadowing the trivia
question here?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, I was just like that's the first line we're
rocking with, and then I meanseconds later you have pamela
anderson walking out of her car.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, who's dating?
Who crashes through?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
and hits them weren't there cops like right?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
right on her tail.
Yeah, yeah, that's like okay.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
First of, all, let's not let pamela anderson drive.
And secondly, isn't she marriedto bill rat?
Am I wrong?
No, I.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So I was saying this.
I was saying this like they.
They take off the mask and it'slike oh, old man, smithers, or
whatever which I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Isn't that like it's?
It's a shout out to the olderepisodes, because I'm pretty
sure there's a old man smithersvillain yeah, I was at the it's
like one of the farmer dudeskind of looking thing.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
He's like a green overalls, no, no, I think that
was the um the grand canyon one.
There's like a the the minor,like not the 49er minor or
whatever, yeah, man, um, but theguy's like you wouldn't marry
me, blah, blah.
It would have been hilarious toget sasha baron Baron Cohen to
(10:03):
play that guy.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
If only Borat came out sooner.
You know, Wait, when did Boratcome out?
2006.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Oof.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Only if it was a little sooner.
Oof.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Okay, okay, I didn't know about that time difference.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, it's a little bit, Because that would have
been funny if he.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Four years later, if they pull off the mask and he's
like my wife, my wife, my wifeFour years later in 2006.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, it was 2006.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, I'm not going to look it up.
No one in our audience is goingto look it up.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
No, no, no one cares.
Then they break up.
They break up pretty fast afterbeing compared to a banana split
now, at this point, I feel likein the whole movie, I feel like
this is the point whereeverything you feel about
scooby-doo has now gone out thewindow besides pamela anderson
being there.
But everything you know aboutscooby-doo is gone, why?
(10:59):
I just feel like now we're on adifferent story with a breakup.
Yeah, as soon as the breakuphappens.
Now it feels like the directors, the writers, everybody here
can now switch Scooby-Doo towhatever they want to, because
they broke up.
And now it's two years laterand now they're trying to get
back together.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I don't know how well you remember it, but Zombie
Island did the same thing withthe breakup at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, weren't they in like a.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Like.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Scooby-Doo?
Weren't they in like a mailroom, or is that I might be
speculating?
Number two Scooby-Doo 2, thelive action.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I know they're in a mailroom.
You might be.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Going down that route .
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, I don't remember where Scooby and Shaggy
were in Zombie Island.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Fred was, I think, doing some public speaking type
stuff, I think wasn't daphnealso a news reporter too?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
she was a news reporter.
I, thelma, was like an actual,like consultant for a police
department or something likethis one.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
She's a nasa right making rockets.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
She said uh to, yeah, like missiles yeah which I'm
not sure nasa does.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I think that's usually lockheed martin and
boeing maybe it's the missilesto get the rockets on the moon
also fun fact.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Do you know the, the fan company uh homes?
You know like you buy them andokay myers and and target and
stuff yeah they actually developengines for missiles.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Doesn't surprise me.
I'm pretty sure Hasbro has amissile too.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
If I rock, do not pirate Hasbro toys.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You will blow up Kaboosh.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You will be hit by a rocket guided missile Probably.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I wouldn't be surprised.
Have you seen Small Soldiers?
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We're joking about that.
Meanwhile Nintendo is likethat've seen Small Soldiers,
we'll see what happens.
We're joking about that, butmeanwhile Nintendo's like you
know, that's a pretty good idea.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
We're going to make missiles if you pirate us.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Nintendo's looking at the next emulating company,
being like how much do missilescost?
Can we hit that group of people?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Poor the casualties here, but I do feel like the
writers now have freedom withscooby-doo.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
yeah, at this point, because now they've cut off what
we know scooby-doo and makingit into everybody's own thing.
Yeah, yeah, um, really flirtingwith the zombie island type,
the breakup at the beginning,the roles that they go into then
being brought back together togo to an island yeah, and what's
just called.
I don't think it's actuallycalled zombie another spooky
(13:37):
island, which is a southernpacific island.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, um theme park, yep big theme park with, uh,
spooky rides.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Would you go to this theme park?
Yes, if it was on like amainland type thing you wouldn't
do it at this island so.
So this is my thing, and thisis going to kind of lead us into
my first question.
Um, the rides at this parklooked lame, the outside of the
(14:18):
castle, which was shut okay, Iwas like that one looked pretty
legit yeah, no, the castle lookscool, but that was shut down
yeah, because of safety reasons,they said right, um, uh, and
then, like a lot of the otherrides, were just like normal
roller coasters roller coasters,just with the kind of mild
(14:38):
spooky vibe to it but I don'tfeel like this.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
This park was meant for being a theme park.
I felt like this was more oflike a vacation for spring break
college students.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It didn't look like.
It was really like a resorttype park, like it didn't look
enough like a resort, like therewas a main building and maybe
some bungalows but that was kindof it and most of the rest of
it was just like theme parkstuff.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I felt like this was more for, like, college students
.
Yeah, spring break and what?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
college student is flying out to the South Pacific,
where the plane ticketsprobably as much as the Listen.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Florida is a big one for them for some reason.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Okay, but Florida is different than an island Mexico
In the South Pacific.
Mexico is different than anisland mexico in the south
pacific.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Mexico is different than the island in this.
I'm pretty sure they're gonnabe like if you, if you market,
like, hey, this is the place forspring break for you as a
college student, and there's noadults, parents, regulations,
there's just some dudes walkingaround, freaky costumes and
weird tattoos.
Then and we're gonna pitch asthis that we have the alcohol,
we got the booze and we also gotdudes and freaky tattoos and
scary costumes.
Come on down, let's party.
(15:50):
I'm pretty sure they're gonnago I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I don't see it happening.
I just I don't.
There's cheaper places for themto go to, for them to also
party.
This island opens up.
They're still going to go toflorida.
They're still going to go toother places.
I'm sure there's going to be akind of richy yuppie crowd that
goes there, but not, it's notgoing to be the happening place
(16:14):
I feel like we need to ask anexpert all right we need rob ask
as someone who consistentlyvisits college parties.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I was going to say we need to ask our beach bum.
Oh, we need to ask our localbeach bum what he thinks Beach
bums never die.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's a good point, beach bum.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Be on the lookout on our IG if our beach bum would
travel to this place.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Jordan, would you go to the island in Scooby-Doo, the
movie Spooky Island?
The movie's not called SpookyIsland.
The island's called SpookyIsland, just for clarification
reasons.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But we're going to swing right into my first
question.
Let's hit it All.
The rides were kind of Lame-ish, yeah okay what would be a
spooky ride for you a spookyride.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Are we talking like spooky or actually like I?
I'm not riding that I will.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That scares the crap out of me how, however, you want
to swing it, oh man, butdescribe it Rollercoaster,
tycoon it to me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So, as we're, as we used to, we used to talk about
Disneyland on this show a littlebit.
I'm backseat critics.
Disney, what Disneyland?
Or the Disney the mouse, thegreatest mouse trap of all time.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Right they are.
We do also have a shrine to themouse.
We sacrifice a mouse everyother week, actually.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So I am.
They are creating a ride whereit's going to jump tracks, or a
roller coaster where it's goingto jump tracks.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Seriously why.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I don't know, but that scares the piss out of me.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
That seems super sketchy, unless they're doing it
railroad style, where there'stwo tracks and they just merge.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
No, no, no it's going to jump.
Yeah, they're working on a ridelike that.
What If I see that that'sprobably going to be one where
I'm going to go?
No, that's Rollercoaster,tycoon death.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Right there, somebody's going to die.
If I built that inRollercoaster Tycoon, somebody's
dying.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Which is okay.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Sure, it's fine.
People die Publicity, which isokay.
Sure, get the bag peoplepublicity.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I mean, somebody was beheaded on thunder mountain I
think that's space mountainthunder was it thunder?
It was thunder, it was a yearbefore you, and I went uh, 15
years ago, 10 years ago, or,yeah, 10, 15 years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think it's happened on space mountain too um and
somebody it was?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
it was the winter.
Before you and I went, sometall guy kind of stood up a bit
on Thunder Mountain Went down.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, I could see that there's a little drop, but
if you sit in the back you candefinitely.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, it was like the spine or the rib cage that you
go through One of the dinos.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You don't go really.
That's like at the end.
There's no way you get beheadedthere there's like I think it
was, the rib cage there's a,there's a part actually where it
drops and it's right before yougo and like to like a mining
tunnel and there's like a is theoverhang yeah, right there.
There's like a piece of woodright there.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I could see that happening right there because
there's a couple times I couldhave swore it was a rib cage.
I'd be.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'd be shocked if it was the rib cage.
I didn't feel like that'ssomething you could really hit.
I mean, if it happened, ithappened.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
But I'd be shocked if it was the rib cage um, but so
for for me, a scary ride wouldbe let's give some spooky
visuals, let's do all the bladesand stuff, but mostly black,
and the whole ride goingbackwards so you can't see
(20:11):
what's coming.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, you know what used to scare the piss out of me
as a kid the Oaks Park HauntedMansion ride that they had, or
the haunted house ride that theyhad I never went on the oaks
park one you know it was kind ofscary.
It had a little like a lot offake things that you'd see at,
like michael's and whateverlittle like decorations, like
that.
But my thing was that thefriends that I went with told me
(20:33):
the story about a vampire thatlived in there what, and I ate
it up as a kid and I was like,what, there's a vampire?
And they're like, yeah, he cameout and started eating people
and then you realize he couldn'tfight the sun.
He went back inside and helives in there.
I was like, oh, let's get outof there really.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yep, so not my jam okay, so maybe, maybe I'm like
conflating that with somethingelse.
There's definitely an accidentthat happened around that time
the big one I'm seeing is from2003, where it looks like the
first car was kind of crushed.
One guy died and 10 peopleinjured.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
There's some people that have jumped on the tracks
and those sorts of things.
Oh no, this was from impropermaintenance.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh oh no, this was from like improper maintenance,
oh Like it came undone.
The train came derailed andthen came down on the first car.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Not to go into a dark situation, but actually do you
think Disneyland would have a?
Do you think that Disneylandwould be a place that Scooby-Doo
and the gang would go to Ingeneral?
Yeah, like they have that videoof a ghost that came out a
while ago.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That's Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I don't remember, I don't think I ever saw that.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
It goes from Tom Sawyer's Island to the Haunted
Mansion.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Weird marketing piece .
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Makes sense to go to the Haunted Mansion.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Weird marketing piece .
Yeah, I could see them goingthere.
They've gone to theme parks andstuff in the past.
This is no different cyberchase.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I think they go into one I never saw a cyber chase
solid one um, the, the one withthe clown?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I forget what that episode was called.
I got you.
I know what you're talkingabout.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's like a uh, orange black, white, yeah, also
with uh, the android, the robotthat was going after him.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
That was also a theme park, um, but no, so actually
at at uh, enchanted forest uh,didn't they have a ride that
somebody would chase you.
So no, at least, at least notwhen I went when I was like I
swear the tin man chased, didn'tthey have a ride that somebody
would chase you?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So no, at least not when I went, when I was like I
swear the Tin man chased me on aride 10 or 12.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
We went into a Haunted Mansion one and there's
like nothing scary there.
You're just walking throughthis long winding hallway that
kind of goes through HauntedMansion.
There's displays behind glassthat show you creepy scenes.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And then somebody comes out and tries to give you
drugs.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well, that's just, that's just enchanted forest in
general.
Yeah, um, so the guy likeunlocks the door, opens it up,
and he's like, yeah, just walkthrough at your leisure.
And then he just books itthrough because he's got to get
around to like open up the doorfor the people behind you.
I panic because this guy isrunning.
I'm like, oh nah, this ain'thappening.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So I took off top speed after this guy I'm pretty
sure parents are like and thisis where we leave, andrew, let's
go the other way.
Is it too late to go throughback the entrance?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I was waiting for a long time at the end there.
So yeah, I was spooked by thatguy running.
That was the scariest bit ofthat.
I don't think I really.
I think there's like one likelittle diorama scene I saw.
I was just too busy runningafter this guy.
This was knocking out of mysights.
He went out.
I realized the door that hewent through just went back
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outside into the park and hewould just loop around and back
into the entrance.
When I go back out in the parkI'm like oh, this is where I'm
at this is where I'm at.
I'm just gonna sit and wait.
That's cool, um, but then also,while we were there, for
whatever reason, there was aslide and it was in the witch's,
like head.
Yeah, you know what I'm talkingabout.
You like walk up her hair andyou slide down.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It's like outer tongue yeah, that's like one of
their big, big attractions.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Big attractions, yeah anyways, it would make weird
sounds when you'd walk kind ofaround her and under her nose,
especially because I think theyput speakers up there.
I refused to walk under hernose.
Man, like I was so spooked bythat, like I would go all the
way around on the other side ofthe path, go up the stairs,
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slide down the slide, whichwould end kind of under her nose
.
But I'd hop off a little early.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I think I only went there twice as a kid I went
there once.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
We went there twice.
I think it's very underwhelming.
Yes, it's, it scared me, thoughas an adult it would probably
still scare me oh, absolutely um, but they are greeted by rowan
atkinson who's playing.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Pleasant surprise.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
The park owner.
Yeah, rocking a Rocking a bitof a fro A little bit yeah.
He's got a perm going on.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I think it's just his hair growing out.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
His hair's flat, it's straight.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Maybe Blackadder.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Blackadder.
It's a is flat, it's straight,maybe Blackadder.
Blackadder is a little bitlonger, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And even then, when they get to the island, they're
like hey we're going to go doour own thing we ain't a team.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So they go do their own thing for about five minutes
and they're back together as ateam at this haunted mansion
yeah.
I really quickly want to circleback, mary Jane.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Isla Fisher.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, we didn't know.
Weird casting Like it fits.
It fits, it's young Isla Fisher, though.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah At this point, she wasn't really in
much.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But it's like, it's one of those like you go back
and you see it and you're likeoh snap.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Awesome.
You look at her and you're likeshe looks really familiar, she
does.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I was staring, I was like I had enough of this, I was
like I got to look it up.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Isla Fisher.
So they go off and do their ownthing.
Daphne runs into a guy tryingto perform a sacrifice on a dead
.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Voodoo.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Voodoo dude.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Who was in Pluto Nash ?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Was not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was.
Freddie and Daphne somehow endup there, but Velma and Fred, we
don't find out how they end upat the castle.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think actually, velma said that she saw it and
she said that this looks like aplace that somebody this is
where everything is beingorchestrated basically Were her
words, or something along thoselines is what she dropped, so
that this is the place whereeverything's going down, like if
somebody's doing something badhere, this is where they're
doing it.
That's where they're doing it.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Um, they go in, they do their thing, they're spooking
around, the ride turns onbecause a dwarf turns on the
ride.
They never address this dwarffor the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
He shows up a couple more times, but that's about it
In the background.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Barely in the background you see him as one of
the henchmen.
I feel like there's a group.
I mean they show up eventuallyshortly after everything goes
down inside of the HauntedMansion, this group of henchmen
that Merle Atkinson has at thistime Spoiler alert but it's like
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yeah, a wrestler, you got thedude with the tattoos.
You got these dudes with likecreepy got a wrestler, you got
the dude with the tattoos.
You got these dudes with creepyschool mask looking things.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
The dwarf is part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, he's part of it .
He's part of that crew and it'sjust like they're all like what
are you doing?
You let him get away.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I feel like Tay would be into that short person.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Do you think he'd pay for it?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, I think that at this time in this movie is that
we have a little time periodwhere we don't know who's after
them, why they're after them,what they're after them for,
anything like that.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We know nothing.
It's just kind of like okay,and I think shortly after is
when we establish monsters yeah,they're, they're real monsters.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Again circling back to zombie island, where kind of
the big plot twist there was themonsters were real weren't they
like cat people?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think they're cat people sorry, zombie island.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, there were zombies the old like.
There's a gal on the islandturned into a cat person there
was a kind of feline-ish lady,but um, yeah, there was.
There were actual zombies andthe zombies were real but they
weren't.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
They weren't the bad ones no, there's like the three
cat people or something likethat there are like three
witches or something like that.
They're cat peoples.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Meow.
Sorry, what Meow To the folks.
We also have a shrine to cats.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Oh no, they also got this.
The gang has this little Idon't know know ouija board,
soul trapper puzzle thingy oh,the little pyramid yeah, they
got this little pyramid schemething then yeah, where did they
uh?
Definitely got it in thehaunted mansion ride thank you
okay I was like where did theyget that from she?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
yanked it there and that was at the pedestal there
at the little sacrificiallooking room that they had.
I'm not just saying that thatliterally looked like a sack oh,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I think they go back to that shortly because I think
that they they spoiler.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
They trapped scooby there a little bit later I don't
think that was the same place,because the other place was like
a cave the trap was verysimilar the trap was similar the
pyramid.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It was a pyramid trap .
Same looking thing it lookedlike yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
No, it was the same pyramid because they just moved
it about uh, okay, I see whatyou're saying island, but no,
the.
The final layer thing was likethis underground cave system.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Oh, yeah, yeah, no, not the final layer I was
talking about, like where theytrap scooby before you meet ron
atkinson finds out scrappy or nonot.
Before he finds out scrappy,it's when, because ron atkinson
brings him into his room, sortof thing oh yeah, tries to suck
or butter him up saying he'sgonna be a sacrifice well, yeah,
but before that that's.
I think that's where theytrapped scooby was in there.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I could be wrong, though maybe a lot of this movie
just kind of bleeds.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Bleeds into each other A little bit.
It gets a little dry at thispoint.
Now we've got this weird thingwith monsters running around.
Fred loses his soul.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
They find little soul dudes, little head things.
Yeah, this is where kind of themovie loses the plot a bit.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And you lose the Scooby-Doo vibes.
Definitely we're already losingthe vibes of Scooby-Doo vibes.
Definitely we're already losingthe vibes of Scooby-Doo.
Now we lost Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And we lost the plot.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And we're our own thing at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
We're not sure what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
We're just throwing in weird things.
We're throwing a little pepper,we're throwing a little cayenne
, we're throwing a little.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Velma and fred little and daphne we're all soul
sucked, okay, and they're alljust like frat boy people now
yeah running around the islandthere was a fake uh smash mouth
who, I think, actually capturedDaphne a little bit later,
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shaggy and Scooby I don'tremember what they were doing-
they're running around trying tostay away from the frat boys
because they're trying tocapture them.
Yeah, but there's also likesome weird downtime in there and
I don't remember really whathappened during that time.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
It was.
They went actually on anexpedition to try to figure out
what was going on, and that'swhen they run into this little
soul thing in Yuma Barbereventually.
Yeah, they do go into the caveand then Scooby gets trapped and
Nicela Fisher comes and wantsto kill Shaggy.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
She's got the man voice.
Shaggy, don't.
That's right, because they jumpinto the little porthole.
Yeah, yeah, no, so that's downin the cave system okay, okay
yep that's where that trap wasyeah, yeah, um, because I think
shaggy and scooby get separatedat that point and shaggy walks
(33:33):
into and he sees all the theheads yeah and the bowl and he's
like, hey, I want to startpulling them out and hitting
them.
And the heads, these disembodied, glowing, bluish, white heads,
just kind of float back to their, to the bodies and repossess
themselves.
And the monsters which werepossessing the bodies, the
(33:55):
actual physical bodies, jump outand then they can't deal with
the sunlight, so they just popand fizzle and die.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And then the head thing.
This is how I sunburn, by theway.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh, you're a little monster, dude.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, we all knew this I think the the head things
I mean for, for the crew, forthe mystery gang.
They kind of go to thedifferent, different groups or
different peoples yeah, yeah,like fred goes into daphne.
Doesn't velma go to daphne, uh?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
no, velma's in herself for a little bit so
daphnene goes to Fred.
Yeah, those were the only twomix-ups.
And then the souls keepswitching.
When they all meet in theforest, they've got the pyramid
thing.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
And then they blip, blip, blip, blip and then, once
all that gets sorted out, in away too long scene of the bodies
or the souls flipping and thevoices being kind of shaggies in
Velma's body, fred's inshaggies, like that kind of yeah
, we finally everyone's in theirown bodies and they just go to
(35:08):
the cave system.
They get some climbing gear,they get the mirror ball, they
set up the trap.
They're going to use the mirrorto shine sunlight from the air
vent in the top of the trap.
They're going to use a mirrorto shine sunlight from the air
vent in the top of the cave anduse that to just kill all the
monsters when they tip the bowlof disembodied heads out and
this is where shat or scrappyblah blah sucks up all the souls
(35:33):
and becomes one of the largedogs that uh huge, huge thing
Speaker 2 (35:43):
that, uh, the 2004 hulk beat the crap out of in the
forest, if y'all remember thatthen we go back to eventually
they they use the save the dayDaphne fights Lucha to do it.
That's the movie.
(36:04):
And Ron Atkinson comes out ofhis little tunnel and goes.
I've been in it for two years.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Weird side note here Oddly good choreography and cuts
For that fight.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
For the fight.
There's a couple parts wherethey slowed it down like did a
slow-mo action sort of thing, orI did not like personally I I'm
not a fan of slow-mo, um, justin general, for those it wasn't
like even like matrix slow-mo oranything, it was just like
b-roll slow-mo, like b-rated but, but like the choreography
itself when it was normal speed,I felt it was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
for what it is, it's not good, but for a Scooby-Doo
family movie it's like okay,this is a better fight scene
than Taken.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Taken.
Come at me Than Taken.
I like that.
Okay.
This is better than Taken Sarah.
Like that.
Okay.
It's better than taking SarahMichelle.
Gellar Fighting a lucha isbetter than taking.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's better than any fight seen and taken.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Watch out.
Liam Neeson's going to call youtonight and go.
I have a special set of skills.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I'll be like you know what.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Do me the favor.
Do me the favor.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
But also let me call Sarah Michelle Keller, because
she's going to cap you.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh, guess what?
I got Daphne on the other line.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Sucker.
She wears high heels and fights.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Some of the things in this movie.
You watch it and you just kindof raise an eyebrow at it.
Why is this in a Scooby-Doomovie?
Just the fact of what peopleare wearing in the background,
you're like really.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
This is.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Scooby-Doo.
This is what we're rolling with.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
So I actually want to read to you or some of the
jokes You're like this littleexcerpt about this is a trivia
question answer okay I'm gonnaread this to you the.
The answer is it was going tobe rated r it was going to be
rated r.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It was going to be rated r.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Wow, they probably dropped some actually I knew
this already and, um, I rememberreading about this when James
Gunn did Guardians of the Galaxyand he was talking about his
experience doing the Scooby-Doomovie.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
So this little excerpt here says Let me realign
the mic here.
This works.
The film was originally set tohave a much darker tone,
Essentially poking fun at oldercartoons which it kind of does.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
It dropped a lot of Hanna-Barbera comments.
It even dropped a Powerpuff.
It drops a lot of cartooncomments in there.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So and was set for a PG-13 rating.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Wait for it Shaggy was set to be a stoner which
they drop almost a couple oftimes in the movie.
Then we spoke about that maryjanice's favorite name in the
movie they look like they'resmoking weed out of a van for a
second, when they're just makingburgers.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Thelma uh, why do I keep saying thelma, velma and
daphne have a side relationship.
You don't see?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
anything like that in there, but okay.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
There were many marijuana references.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
They kind of dropped a couple in there.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
According to Sarah Michelle Galler, after the cast
signed on, there was a chancechange and the film became more
family friendly.
However, by 2017, james Gunnconfirmed that the original cut
of the film got an R rating andhad to use CGI to cover cleavage
.
Wow, yeah, if I remember right,when he was talking about it,
(39:48):
there was also just like a lotmore heavy handed innuendos,
just like in your face.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I could see that.
I could see that.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
And the studio like wasn't having it that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I mean, I don't know how you could do that to
scooby-doo I.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I don't know how I'd feel about that I, I don't know
about the darker tone, the, thepoking fun at and the kind of
self-awareness like I'm here forit, but the rest of it I don't
know I feel like make it yourown thing at that point, like
make it your not scooby-doo, butmake it a different type of
mystery movie right you don'tneed to make scooby-doo into
(40:26):
that like do do a venturebrothers type thing where it's
just a general parody ofsomething yeah like.
Venture bros is just a parody of60s, 70s, maybe 80s,
superheroes and Hanna-Barberacartoons.
Why not do the same with this?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Well, it's kind of like Power Rangers, but they
want, like a grittier, more.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Oh jeez, yeah with that newer.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, they wanted, was it?
Speaker 1 (40:54):
the 14?
, 2014?
, 2015?
, something like that.
But they want to go like darker.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
They wanted to go darker than that they want to go
darker than that, like theywant to be they want to make.
They want to make our childhoodmovies or things of the 90s
dark and gritty or even backthere.
I mean, obviously scooby-doo islike 70s, 80s 60s.
I think 60s so they want tomake things of like kids more
dark and gritty, because theywant.
They think that adults want tosee that and grow up with it.
(41:21):
But in all honesty, somethinglike scooby-doo should not be
touched in that sort of way.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Same with power rangers should not be that way.
Um, no, I completely agree.
I remember there was like a fancut of like a dark and gritty
power rangers and I rememberwatching that and I I didn't
grow up on power rangers butlike I've seen it more recently
and it's got its own kind ofappeal to it and I saw the
darker version and it's like Ikind of don't want this.
(41:49):
It's, and I know, like 2002 tolike 2010, 11, 12.
We were really heavy into likethe dark, gritty kind of
christopher nolan's doing batman.
Yep, we've got daredevil.
You know, spider-man's emo andwearing black now, which, like I
know he was in the 90s, butlike, like, like that was the
(42:11):
vibe.
Yeah, like we're, we're doingthat.
Then Scooby-Doo doesn't needthat.
It's just the contrast betweenthe monsters, the villains, what
they're trying to do Preventthe sale of some land, do
(42:32):
whatever and then the fun,cartoonish, fun cartooniness of
the gang, especially scooby andshaggy is kind of the lightness
which they kind of hit in thebeginning before pamela anderson
gets there.
Thank you, I feel like the introwas kind of like primo yeah, it
(42:55):
kind of goes all downhill fromthere yeah, so I think it's
there.
There's fun like vignettes,little like moments, but that's
about it see also, they still.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
They still push out scooby-doo movies.
They still push out like thecartoons.
They still push out the powerrangers.
They still push out new seriesof power r.
Kids are going to want to watchthis or darker Like if they put
out a darker rated R version.
Kids are going to want to watchthis darker rated R version
because they see Scooby-Doo'sname attached to it.
Right, that's not what theyneed to see.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
No, but also like why is Scooby-Doo need to be rated
R?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Exactly he doesn't Like.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I get that this was maybe like incidental that it
was rated R, but like why?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
PG 13 max max.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Scooby-Doo doesn't need sexploitation to work.
No, you could it's got the name.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, the name itself .
You'll be able to sell anythingoff Scooby-Doo almost.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, you don't need to sell on sex appeal.
You don't need to sell on on ontits.
You don't need to sell onMarijuana jokes no.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Drug references.
I mean they do alcoholreferences in this movie.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
I'm not against that in general, but it just doesn't
belong in Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Agreed.
That said, I also don't need towatch this, just in general.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
This live-action one.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Because I don't normally think it's that good.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I think it's one where it's like every couple
years am I going to watch it?
Probably.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
It's like every five years for me.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Because it's going to be one where I forget.
Oh yeah, this is a live-actionScooby-Doo.
Let's check it out again.
Oh yeah, that's why I haven'twatched this in two years.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
It's you, you very quickly with this, get those
rose colored glasses, becauseit's got those little vignettes,
the little moments where you'relike, oh, that was kind of cute
, that was kind of fun.
It was Matthew Lillard.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
What did Scooby do and Shaggy do in the fart
competition?
You know, Ugh Fun.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, Also a bit excessive.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Scooby walking on the airplane in a grandma costume
Fun, and then starting to barkand growl at a cat.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Also the way Scooby's eyes moved in this, where
they're just like fluid waves.
Yeah, I didn't that that's.
That's gonna give me nightmarestonight, um, but I'm gonna give
this.
I'm gonna give this a 4.5.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I'll give it a 5 for me.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
It's like I'm gonna go back and rewatch it.
There's still fun moments in it.
The set design in this is waytoo good.
The CGI did not age well at all.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Oh everything, and there's even parts where you're
like do you really need CG there?
I mean, I guess it makes sensenow that there, and there's even
parts where you're like, do youreally need cg there?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
I mean, I guess it makes sense now that there's a
couple of parts where they butyou can't even really see that
that they cg'd over and Ibrought this up during it's like
it'd be kind of cool if theyroger abbotted it where it was a
live action crew and they justhad scooby doo and 2d hand-drawn
hannah barbarabera form andthey just don't address it.
That would be kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And just rock with it , instead of trying to make a
live-action dog.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
That would have been what I would have done if I were
in charge, because it justwould have been fun.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I think it's kind of funny, though, that some dude's
walking around probably lookinglike a dog, dog and he's costume
on the set.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
I want to see the Revenant cut where Leo gets
mauled by Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
You know, somebody's walking around in a Scooby-Doo
costume on that set.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, 100%.
The actors have to havesomebody to like interact with
yeah most actors, mostly likelillard and and uh rowan, do a
really good job at likeinteracting with this with cg
scooby-doo yeah so I'll give himthat.
That's good work therelillard's primo actor yeah, he
is.
Rowan axon is good when he'sgiven a good script yeah we're
(47:19):
given enough freedom, but 4.5.
I'm gonna revisit this probablydo.
I recommend this to kidsprobably not teens, adults.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, go for it early teens yeah early teens,
pre-teens maybe feel it out.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, know your kid know your kid know what you yeah
, lesson, uh, lesson forbackseat critics know your kid,
know your kid put that down inthe book of critics all right,
uh, until next time.
Where can they find us?
(47:58):
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you can find us on instagram at the backseat
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You can find us on youtube.
Uh, just type in the backseatcritics.
We'll pop up, not backseatcritique, backseat critics and
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You can also find us whereveryou listen to your podcasts.
Just type, type in the BackseatCritics.
Until next time.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
We out, thank you.
Well, and like I can like, give it out to people for
free-ish.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I don't know, you might be able to.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
I can't really sell that.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'll show you what they do on to you Like.
I'll show you some stickers Ibought off there before that
somebody else.
I mean, it wasn't approved byDisney and they still made them,
so I'll show you them later.
Welcome back to the BackseatCritics.
My name is RJ.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
My name is RJ, my name is Andrew, and this is the
podcast where we review moviesthat you should steer clear of,
and this week we're talkingabout 2002's Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh no, I said peak that you peaked that Future
Andrew, we're so sorry justdon't listen to it with
headphones on, you're fine yeah,I'm turning down your gain,
dude leave me alone you knowwhat?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
you lost that privilege why, you lost extra
gain.
You have to earn that back okay, that's fine but 2002's
scooby-doo.
Do you want to?
Do you want to talk about it?
What, what, what's, what's yourhistory with this movie?
Because this came out we were10 years old, yeah, so it was
(01:17):
about um fifth grade yeah fifthgrade, ish, maybe fourth.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
it might have been a few theaters when we were in
fourth grade, but about fifthgrade, I think, is when it came
out on VHS, maybe.
Yeah, my history when I firstsaw this actually the day I saw
this movie first of all we hadto get a permission slip to
watch this movie.
It was in school.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Really yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
They made a whole permission slip thing and as a
kid we were also agreeing toskip recess to watch this movie.
I don't know why, but we had toskip recess and we did it in
sections.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I mean every 30 minutes, because that's all you
got for recess at the time.
Sorry, you had to watch thismovie in segments.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, so it was about four recesses that it took to
watch the whole movie, becauseyou had to wait for everybody to
get into the room.
You would grab your lunch.
You'd go into the classroomwhere they're playing it it
wasn't even my classroom and uhyeah.
So one day actually, I forgotmy lunch and um, but I had four
dollars in my pocket.
Four dollars I had five dollarsbecause I was a hustler back in
(02:19):
the day and I'd sell kids.
I'd buy yugioh cards with thefake classroom money and sell
them for real money, and so Ihad $5 in my pocket.
Didn't have lunch, so I boughtfive king-size Reese's candy
bars.
Oh, and I had five king-sizeReese's candy bars while
watching the first, what wasthat?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Still.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh no, I ate those.
I ate those while watching themovie, and that's kind of how I
started was watching, watchingthis movie through through that
process of through recess and,um, I think later on my family
did end up renting the moviethrough Hollywood video.
Rest in peace, um.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know your family passed.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Oh no, hollywood video.
Um, hollywood video, but yeah,that's kind of in, and after
that, obviously, it played on WBand it was kind of one of those
things, this weird channelflipping that we would be like
let's throw this on.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So I've seen this movie quite a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I remember seeing this again like fourth, fifth
grade, I think I saw this in thetheaters with my folks.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh, you went to a theater, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I was a enormous scooby-doo fan when I was a kid
yeah, who wasn't?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
it was a good.
It's a good show.
I mean, if you hate scooby-doo,you might want to get checked
out man, I, uh, you know, otherkids were collecting batman
comics.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I had scooby-doo comics that's pretty rad so
that's where I was at withscooby-doo.
Um, yeah, no, my parents tookme to see this and at the time I
had enjoyed this, except forthe scrappy do at the end.
Spoiler alerts, yeah.
And then I saw this, I think,the christmas, following my
(03:57):
family.
We get together with anotherfamily and they threw on a movie
yeah, and we watched this andagain I'm like, yeah, this is
cool, but I started to pick upon some of the uh, some of the
window, indie windows, anywindows indie windows.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I'm like wait a second here that's a dirty joke
and your family's like no morescooby-doo for andrew yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
so no more scooby-oo for Andrew, but no I.
I want to say I liked thismovie as a kid.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It was fun.
My go-to was Zombie Island.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
For this movie.
Zombie Island was the oh no,the movie Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They did a remake of that recently.
Not a remake, but a return toOkay, yeah, yeah, they did a
remake of that recently.
Not a remake, but Return toZombie Island.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I still the mic here.
I still haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's kind of silly because they actually go back to
the island and they don't evenknow they're there.
They're like this place seemsreally familiar in that movie
weird yeah, it's just like waita second, you guys, they play it
off like cleverly, or is itjust gimmicky?
No, it's very gimmicky, oh yeahthe movie itself is fine, but
(05:21):
yeah, you're like why?
Why did you say that line?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
you didn't need to say that line, that's a bummer,
yeah, um, so yeah, no, we've gotextensive history with this
movie oh, absolutely um, yeah,no, we, uh, we actually have a
shrine here, oh we do toscooby-doo in yeah At an
undisclosed location.
There's candles surrounding astatue of Scooby.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We have this movie poster, signed by Matthew
Lillard, in our studio.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We sacrifice a dog once a week.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Whoa, whoa.
No animals were harmed in themaking of this episode of the
Backseat.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Critics.
They weren't harmed, they werekilled.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And PETA is now going to be coming in.
Okay, this is probably anon-safe zone for pets, that's
okay.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Anyways, You've got a couple dogs right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Sure, we'll call them dogs, but anyways, one-minute
summary go, yeah.
So basically, the scooby-doogroup gets introduced to the
movie and they decide to breakup within the first 10 minutes
of the movie.
two years later, down the road,they all get invites to zombie
island in which they find outspooky island in which they find
(06:44):
out that kids are college kids,are being possessed and turning
into creatures.
Later on, it's revealed thatscrappy doo is behind this mess,
and then scrappy doo wants totake scooby doo's soul, and then
daphne saves the day with a bigdisco light ball.
(07:05):
All the souls are put back intotheir original bodies and
Scrappy-Doo dies.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, he doesn't die.
He shrivels into a littlesausage.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He shrivels back into his original form and is
arrested.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, into a little sausage.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
What's that look for?
But no, so okay, but before wedive in okay this episode.
Yeah, sorry, I bumped your micthere oh, you're fine um before
we dive in on this episode we'regonna.
We're gonna do our quizquestion and we're gonna swing
right back into the plot.
Okay, what was original writingfor this movie?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
um, I don't like what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Imdb rotten tomatoes, no no, no, like, like, like
parental guidance oh, I'm gonnasay pg-13 okay I'm gonna stick
with that pg-13.
Okay, we'll swing back.
Okay, so we start off.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The movie they're catching a little ghost person
with bunny rabbit ears.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, they tried to make it similar to like an old
school Scooby-Doo character alittle bit there.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It did.
Yeah, do you notice?
So this guy, if you later inthe movie when Scooby's running
from the actual monsters, yeah.
And he runs up.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Shaggy catches him and Scooby's like monsters,
monsters, yeah, yeah and the guyin the bunny costume comes out
of the forest.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, and they're like oh ha ha Similar vibe as
far as the costume goes.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
A little bit.
I can see that Like it's just,like it's just not glowing, not
as clownish.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And there was like a t-shirt instead of like the full
costume.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think it's kind of funny too.
The first line in this movie isactually Daphne saying you're
giving me a wedgie.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Wait, that was the first line.
I didn't even catch that.
Yeah, I was just like whatForeshadowing the trivia
question here?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, I was just like that's the first line we're
rocking with, and then I meanseconds later you have pamela
anderson walking out of her car.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, who's dating?
Who crashes through?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
and hits them weren't there cops like right?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
right on her tail.
Yeah, yeah, that's like okay.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
First of, all, let's not let pamela anderson drive.
And secondly, isn't she marriedto bill rat?
Am I wrong?
No, I.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So I was saying this.
I was saying this like they.
They take off the mask and it'slike oh, old man, smithers, or
whatever which I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Isn't that like it's?
It's a shout out to the olderepisodes, because I'm pretty
sure there's a old man smithersvillain yeah, I was at the it's
like one of the farmer dudeskind of looking thing.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
He's like a green overalls, no, no, I think that
was the um the grand canyon one.
There's like a the the minor,like not the 49er minor or
whatever, yeah, man, um, but theguy's like you wouldn't marry
me, blah, blah.
It would have been hilarious toget sasha baron Baron Cohen to
(10:03):
play that guy.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
If only Borat came out sooner.
You know, Wait, when did Boratcome out?
2006.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Oof.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Only if it was a little sooner.
Oof.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Okay, okay, I didn't know about that time difference.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, it's a little bit, Because that would have
been funny if he.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Four years later, if they pull off the mask and he's
like my wife, my wife, my wifeFour years later in 2006.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, it was 2006.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, I'm not going to look it up.
No one in our audience is goingto look it up.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
No, no, no one cares.
Then they break up.
They break up pretty fast afterbeing compared to a banana split
now, at this point, I feel likein the whole movie, I feel like
this is the point whereeverything you feel about
scooby-doo has now gone out thewindow besides pamela anderson
being there.
But everything you know aboutscooby-doo is gone, why?
(10:59):
I just feel like now we're on adifferent story with a breakup.
Yeah, as soon as the breakuphappens.
Now it feels like the directors, the writers, everybody here
can now switch Scooby-Doo towhatever they want to, because
they broke up.
And now it's two years laterand now they're trying to get
back together.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I don't know how well you remember it, but Zombie
Island did the same thing withthe breakup at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, weren't they in like a.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Like.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Scooby-Doo?
Weren't they in like a mailroom, or is that I might be
speculating?
Number two Scooby-Doo 2, thelive action.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I know they're in a mailroom.
You might be.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Going down that route .
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, I don't remember where Scooby and Shaggy
were in Zombie Island.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Fred was, I think, doing some public speaking type
stuff, I think wasn't daphnealso a news reporter too?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
she was a news reporter.
I, thelma, was like an actual,like consultant for a police
department or something likethis one.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
She's a nasa right making rockets.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
She said uh to, yeah, like missiles yeah which I'm
not sure nasa does.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I think that's usually lockheed martin and
boeing maybe it's the missilesto get the rockets on the moon
also fun fact.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Do you know the, the fan company uh homes?
You know like you buy them andokay myers and and target and
stuff yeah they actually developengines for missiles.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Doesn't surprise me.
I'm pretty sure Hasbro has amissile too.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
If I rock, do not pirate Hasbro toys.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You will blow up Kaboosh.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You will be hit by a rocket guided missile Probably.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I wouldn't be surprised.
Have you seen Small Soldiers?
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We're joking about that.
Meanwhile Nintendo is likethat've seen Small Soldiers,
we'll see what happens.
We're joking about that, butmeanwhile Nintendo's like you
know, that's a pretty good idea.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
We're going to make missiles if you pirate us.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Nintendo's looking at the next emulating company,
being like how much do missilescost?
Can we hit that group of people?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Poor the casualties here, but I do feel like the
writers now have freedom withscooby-doo.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
yeah, at this point, because now they've cut off what
we know scooby-doo and makingit into everybody's own thing.
Yeah, yeah, um, really flirtingwith the zombie island type,
the breakup at the beginning,the roles that they go into then
being brought back together togo to an island yeah, and what's
just called.
I don't think it's actuallycalled zombie another spooky
(13:37):
island, which is a southernpacific island.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, um theme park, yep big theme park with, uh,
spooky rides.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Would you go to this theme park?
Yes, if it was on like amainland type thing you wouldn't
do it at this island so.
So this is my thing, and thisis going to kind of lead us into
my first question.
Um, the rides at this parklooked lame, the outside of the
(14:18):
castle, which was shut okay, Iwas like that one looked pretty
legit yeah, no, the castle lookscool, but that was shut down
yeah, because of safety reasons,they said right, um, uh, and
then, like a lot of the otherrides, were just like normal
roller coasters roller coasters,just with the kind of mild
(14:38):
spooky vibe to it but I don'tfeel like this.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
This park was meant for being a theme park.
I felt like this was more oflike a vacation for spring break
college students.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It didn't look like.
It was really like a resorttype park, like it didn't look
enough like a resort, like therewas a main building and maybe
some bungalows but that was kindof it and most of the rest of
it was just like theme parkstuff.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I felt like this was more for, like, college students
.
Yeah, spring break and what?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
college student is flying out to the South Pacific,
where the plane ticketsprobably as much as the Listen.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Florida is a big one for them for some reason.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Okay, but Florida is different than an island Mexico
In the South Pacific.
Mexico is different than anisland mexico in the south
pacific.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Mexico is different than the island in this.
I'm pretty sure they're gonnabe like if you, if you market,
like, hey, this is the place forspring break for you as a
college student, and there's noadults, parents, regulations,
there's just some dudes walkingaround, freaky costumes and
weird tattoos.
Then and we're gonna pitch asthis that we have the alcohol,
we got the booze and we also gotdudes and freaky tattoos and
scary costumes.
Come on down, let's party.
(15:50):
I'm pretty sure they're gonnago I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I don't see it happening.
I just I don't.
There's cheaper places for themto go to, for them to also
party.
This island opens up.
They're still going to go toflorida.
They're still going to go toother places.
I'm sure there's going to be akind of richy yuppie crowd that
goes there, but not, it's notgoing to be the happening place
(16:14):
I feel like we need to ask anexpert all right we need rob ask
as someone who consistentlyvisits college parties.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I was going to say we need to ask our beach bum.
Oh, we need to ask our localbeach bum what he thinks Beach
bums never die.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's a good point, beach bum.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Be on the lookout on our IG if our beach bum would
travel to this place.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Jordan, would you go to the island in Scooby-Doo, the
movie Spooky Island?
The movie's not called SpookyIsland.
The island's called SpookyIsland, just for clarification
reasons.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But we're going to swing right into my first
question.
Let's hit it All.
The rides were kind of Lame-ish, yeah okay what would be a
spooky ride for you a spookyride.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Are we talking like spooky or actually like I?
I'm not riding that I will.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That scares the crap out of me how, however, you want
to swing it, oh man, butdescribe it Rollercoaster,
tycoon it to me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So, as we're, as we used to, we used to talk about
Disneyland on this show a littlebit.
I'm backseat critics.
Disney, what Disneyland?
Or the Disney the mouse, thegreatest mouse trap of all time.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Right they are.
We do also have a shrine to themouse.
We sacrifice a mouse everyother week, actually.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So I am.
They are creating a ride whereit's going to jump tracks, or a
roller coaster where it's goingto jump tracks.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Seriously why.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I don't know, but that scares the piss out of me.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
That seems super sketchy, unless they're doing it
railroad style, where there'stwo tracks and they just merge.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
No, no, no it's going to jump.
Yeah, they're working on a ridelike that.
What If I see that that'sprobably going to be one where
I'm going to go?
No, that's Rollercoaster,tycoon death.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Right there, somebody's going to die.
If I built that inRollercoaster Tycoon, somebody's
dying.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Which is okay.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Sure, it's fine.
People die Publicity, which isokay.
Sure, get the bag peoplepublicity.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I mean, somebody was beheaded on thunder mountain I
think that's space mountainthunder was it thunder?
It was thunder, it was a yearbefore you, and I went uh, 15
years ago, 10 years ago, or,yeah, 10, 15 years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think it's happened on space mountain too um and
somebody it was?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
it was the winter.
Before you and I went, sometall guy kind of stood up a bit
on Thunder Mountain Went down.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, I could see that there's a little drop, but
if you sit in the back you candefinitely.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, it was like the spine or the rib cage that you
go through One of the dinos.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You don't go really.
That's like at the end.
There's no way you get beheadedthere there's like I think it
was, the rib cage there's a,there's a part actually where it
drops and it's right before yougo and like to like a mining
tunnel and there's like a is theoverhang yeah, right there.
There's like a piece of woodright there.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I could see that happening right there because
there's a couple times I couldhave swore it was a rib cage.
I'd be.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'd be shocked if it was the rib cage.
I didn't feel like that'ssomething you could really hit.
I mean, if it happened, ithappened.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
But I'd be shocked if it was the rib cage um, but so
for for me, a scary ride wouldbe let's give some spooky
visuals, let's do all the bladesand stuff, but mostly black,
and the whole ride goingbackwards so you can't see
(20:11):
what's coming.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, you know what used to scare the piss out of me
as a kid the Oaks Park HauntedMansion ride that they had, or
the haunted house ride that theyhad I never went on the oaks
park one you know it was kind ofscary.
It had a little like a lot offake things that you'd see at,
like michael's and whateverlittle like decorations, like
that.
But my thing was that thefriends that I went with told me
(20:33):
the story about a vampire thatlived in there what, and I ate
it up as a kid and I was like,what, there's a vampire?
And they're like, yeah, he cameout and started eating people
and then you realize he couldn'tfight the sun.
He went back inside and helives in there.
I was like, oh, let's get outof there really.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yep, so not my jam okay, so maybe, maybe I'm like
conflating that with somethingelse.
There's definitely an accidentthat happened around that time
the big one I'm seeing is from2003, where it looks like the
first car was kind of crushed.
One guy died and 10 peopleinjured.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
There's some people that have jumped on the tracks
and those sorts of things.
Oh no, this was from impropermaintenance.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh oh no, this was from like improper maintenance,
oh Like it came undone.
The train came derailed andthen came down on the first car.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Not to go into a dark situation, but actually do you
think Disneyland would have a?
Do you think that Disneylandwould be a place that Scooby-Doo
and the gang would go to Ingeneral?
Yeah, like they have that videoof a ghost that came out a
while ago.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That's Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I don't remember, I don't think I ever saw that.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
It goes from Tom Sawyer's Island to the Haunted
Mansion.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Weird marketing piece .
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Makes sense to go to the Haunted Mansion.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Weird marketing piece .
Yeah, I could see them goingthere.
They've gone to theme parks andstuff in the past.
This is no different cyberchase.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I think they go into one I never saw a cyber chase
solid one um, the, the one withthe clown?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I forget what that episode was called.
I got you.
I know what you're talkingabout.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's like a uh, orange black, white, yeah, also
with uh, the android, the robotthat was going after him.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
That was also a theme park, um, but no, so actually
at at uh, enchanted forest uh,didn't they have a ride that
somebody would chase you.
So no, at least, at least notwhen I went when I was like I
swear the tin man chased, didn'tthey have a ride that somebody
would chase you?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So no, at least not when I went, when I was like I
swear the Tin man chased me on aride 10 or 12.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
We went into a Haunted Mansion one and there's
like nothing scary there.
You're just walking throughthis long winding hallway that
kind of goes through HauntedMansion.
There's displays behind glassthat show you creepy scenes.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And then somebody comes out and tries to give you
drugs.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well, that's just, that's just enchanted forest in
general.
Yeah, um, so the guy likeunlocks the door, opens it up,
and he's like, yeah, just walkthrough at your leisure.
And then he just books itthrough because he's got to get
around to like open up the doorfor the people behind you.
I panic because this guy isrunning.
I'm like, oh nah, this ain'thappening.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So I took off top speed after this guy I'm pretty
sure parents are like and thisis where we leave, andrew, let's
go the other way.
Is it too late to go throughback the entrance?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I was waiting for a long time at the end there.
So yeah, I was spooked by thatguy running.
That was the scariest bit ofthat.
I don't think I really.
I think there's like one likelittle diorama scene I saw.
I was just too busy runningafter this guy.
This was knocking out of mysights.
He went out.
I realized the door that hewent through just went back
(24:25):
outside into the park and hewould just loop around and back
into the entrance.
When I go back out in the parkI'm like oh, this is where I'm
at this is where I'm at.
I'm just gonna sit and wait.
That's cool, um, but then also,while we were there, for
whatever reason, there was aslide and it was in the witch's,
like head.
Yeah, you know what I'm talkingabout.
You like walk up her hair andyou slide down.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It's like outer tongue yeah, that's like one of
their big, big attractions.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Big attractions, yeah anyways, it would make weird
sounds when you'd walk kind ofaround her and under her nose,
especially because I think theyput speakers up there.
I refused to walk under hernose.
Man, like I was so spooked bythat, like I would go all the
way around on the other side ofthe path, go up the stairs,
(25:13):
slide down the slide, whichwould end kind of under her nose
.
But I'd hop off a little early.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I think I only went there twice as a kid I went
there once.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
We went there twice.
I think it's very underwhelming.
Yes, it's, it scared me, thoughas an adult it would probably
still scare me oh, absolutely um, but they are greeted by rowan
atkinson who's playing.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Pleasant surprise.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
The park owner.
Yeah, rocking a Rocking a bitof a fro A little bit yeah.
He's got a perm going on.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I think it's just his hair growing out.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
His hair's flat, it's straight.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Maybe Blackadder.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Blackadder.
It's a is flat, it's straight,maybe Blackadder.
Blackadder is a little bitlonger, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And even then, when they get to the island, they're
like hey we're going to go doour own thing we ain't a team.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So they go do their own thing for about five minutes
and they're back together as ateam at this haunted mansion
yeah.
I really quickly want to circleback, mary Jane.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Isla Fisher.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, we didn't know.
Weird casting Like it fits.
It fits, it's young Isla Fisher, though.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah At this point, she wasn't really in
much.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But it's like, it's one of those like you go back
and you see it and you're likeoh snap.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Awesome.
You look at her and you're likeshe looks really familiar, she
does.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I was staring, I was like I had enough of this, I was
like I got to look it up.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Isla Fisher.
So they go off and do their ownthing.
Daphne runs into a guy tryingto perform a sacrifice on a dead
.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Voodoo.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Voodoo dude.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Who was in Pluto Nash ?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Was not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was.
Freddie and Daphne somehow endup there, but Velma and Fred, we
don't find out how they end upat the castle.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think actually, velma said that she saw it and
she said that this looks like aplace that somebody this is
where everything is beingorchestrated basically Were her
words, or something along thoselines is what she dropped, so
that this is the place whereeverything's going down, like if
somebody's doing something badhere, this is where they're
doing it.
That's where they're doing it.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Um, they go in, they do their thing, they're spooking
around, the ride turns onbecause a dwarf turns on the
ride.
They never address this dwarffor the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
He shows up a couple more times, but that's about it
In the background.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Barely in the background you see him as one of
the henchmen.
I feel like there's a group.
I mean they show up eventuallyshortly after everything goes
down inside of the HauntedMansion, this group of henchmen
that Merle Atkinson has at thistime Spoiler alert but it's like
(28:33):
yeah, a wrestler, you got thedude with the tattoos.
You got these dudes with likecreepy got a wrestler, you got
the dude with the tattoos.
You got these dudes with creepyschool mask looking things.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
The dwarf is part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, he's part of it .
He's part of that crew and it'sjust like they're all like what
are you doing?
You let him get away.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I feel like Tay would be into that short person.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Do you think he'd pay for it?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, I think that at this time in this movie is that
we have a little time periodwhere we don't know who's after
them, why they're after them,what they're after them for,
anything like that.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We know nothing.
It's just kind of like okay,and I think shortly after is
when we establish monsters yeah,they're, they're real monsters.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Again circling back to zombie island, where kind of
the big plot twist there was themonsters were real weren't they
like cat people?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think they're cat people sorry, zombie island.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, there were zombies the old like.
There's a gal on the islandturned into a cat person there
was a kind of feline-ish lady,but um, yeah, there was.
There were actual zombies andthe zombies were real but they
weren't.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
They weren't the bad ones no, there's like the three
cat people or something likethat there are like three
witches or something like that.
They're cat peoples.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Meow.
Sorry, what Meow To the folks.
We also have a shrine to cats.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Oh no, they also got this.
The gang has this little Idon't know know ouija board,
soul trapper puzzle thingy oh,the little pyramid yeah, they
got this little pyramid schemething then yeah, where did they
uh?
Definitely got it in thehaunted mansion ride thank you
okay I was like where did theyget that from she?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
yanked it there and that was at the pedestal there
at the little sacrificiallooking room that they had.
I'm not just saying that thatliterally looked like a sack oh,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I think they go back to that shortly because I think
that they they spoiler.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
They trapped scooby there a little bit later I don't
think that was the same place,because the other place was like
a cave the trap was verysimilar the trap was similar the
pyramid.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It was a pyramid trap .
Same looking thing it lookedlike yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
No, it was the same pyramid because they just moved
it about uh, okay, I see whatyou're saying island, but no,
the.
The final layer thing was likethis underground cave system.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Oh, yeah, yeah, no, not the final layer I was
talking about, like where theytrap scooby before you meet ron
atkinson finds out scrappy or nonot.
Before he finds out scrappy,it's when, because ron atkinson
brings him into his room, sortof thing oh yeah, tries to suck
or butter him up saying he'sgonna be a sacrifice well, yeah,
but before that that's.
I think that's where theytrapped scooby was in there.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I could be wrong, though maybe a lot of this movie
just kind of bleeds.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Bleeds into each other A little bit.
It gets a little dry at thispoint.
Now we've got this weird thingwith monsters running around.
Fred loses his soul.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
They find little soul dudes, little head things.
Yeah, this is where kind of themovie loses the plot a bit.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And you lose the Scooby-Doo vibes.
Definitely we're already losingthe vibes of Scooby-Doo vibes.
Definitely we're already losingthe vibes of Scooby-Doo.
Now we lost Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And we lost the plot.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And we're our own thing at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
We're not sure what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
We're just throwing in weird things.
We're throwing a little pepper,we're throwing a little cayenne
, we're throwing a little.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Velma and fred little and daphne we're all soul
sucked, okay, and they're alljust like frat boy people now
yeah running around the islandthere was a fake uh smash mouth
who, I think, actually capturedDaphne a little bit later,
(32:39):
shaggy and Scooby I don'tremember what they were doing-
they're running around trying tostay away from the frat boys
because they're trying tocapture them.
Yeah, but there's also likesome weird downtime in there and
I don't remember really whathappened during that time.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
It was.
They went actually on anexpedition to try to figure out
what was going on, and that'swhen they run into this little
soul thing in Yuma Barbereventually.
Yeah, they do go into the caveand then Scooby gets trapped and
Nicela Fisher comes and wantsto kill Shaggy.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
She's got the man voice.
Shaggy, don't.
That's right, because they jumpinto the little porthole.
Yeah, yeah, no, so that's downin the cave system okay, okay
yep that's where that trap wasyeah, yeah, um, because I think
shaggy and scooby get separatedat that point and shaggy walks
(33:33):
into and he sees all the theheads yeah and the bowl and he's
like, hey, I want to startpulling them out and hitting
them.
And the heads, these disembodied, glowing, bluish, white heads,
just kind of float back to their, to the bodies and repossess
themselves.
And the monsters which werepossessing the bodies, the
(33:55):
actual physical bodies, jump outand then they can't deal with
the sunlight, so they just popand fizzle and die.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And then the head thing.
This is how I sunburn, by theway.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh, you're a little monster, dude.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, we all knew this I think the the head things
I mean for, for the crew, forthe mystery gang.
They kind of go to thedifferent, different groups or
different peoples yeah, yeah,like fred goes into daphne.
Doesn't velma go to daphne, uh?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
no, velma's in herself for a little bit so
daphnene goes to Fred.
Yeah, those were the only twomix-ups.
And then the souls keepswitching.
When they all meet in theforest, they've got the pyramid
thing.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
And then they blip, blip, blip, blip and then, once
all that gets sorted out, in away too long scene of the bodies
or the souls flipping and thevoices being kind of shaggies in
Velma's body, fred's inshaggies, like that kind of yeah
, we finally everyone's in theirown bodies and they just go to
(35:08):
the cave system.
They get some climbing gear,they get the mirror ball, they
set up the trap.
They're going to use the mirrorto shine sunlight from the air
vent in the top of the trap.
They're going to use a mirrorto shine sunlight from the air
vent in the top of the cave anduse that to just kill all the
monsters when they tip the bowlof disembodied heads out and
this is where shat or scrappyblah blah sucks up all the souls
(35:33):
and becomes one of the largedogs that uh huge, huge thing
Speaker 2 (35:43):
that, uh, the 2004 hulk beat the crap out of in the
forest, if y'all remember thatthen we go back to eventually
they they use the save the dayDaphne fights Lucha to do it.
That's the movie.
(36:04):
And Ron Atkinson comes out ofhis little tunnel and goes.
I've been in it for two years.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Weird side note here Oddly good choreography and cuts
For that fight.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
For the fight.
There's a couple parts wherethey slowed it down like did a
slow-mo action sort of thing, orI did not like personally I I'm
not a fan of slow-mo, um, justin general, for those it wasn't
like even like matrix slow-mo oranything, it was just like
b-roll slow-mo, like b-rated but, but like the choreography
itself when it was normal speed,I felt it was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
for what it is, it's not good, but for a Scooby-Doo
family movie it's like okay,this is a better fight scene
than Taken.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Taken.
Come at me Than Taken.
I like that.
Okay.
This is better than Taken Sarah.
Like that.
Okay.
It's better than taking SarahMichelle.
Gellar Fighting a lucha isbetter than taking.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's better than any fight seen and taken.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Watch out.
Liam Neeson's going to call youtonight and go.
I have a special set of skills.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I'll be like you know what.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Do me the favor.
Do me the favor.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
But also let me call Sarah Michelle Keller, because
she's going to cap you.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh, guess what?
I got Daphne on the other line.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Sucker.
She wears high heels and fights.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Some of the things in this movie.
You watch it and you just kindof raise an eyebrow at it.
Why is this in a Scooby-Doomovie?
Just the fact of what peopleare wearing in the background,
you're like really.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
This is.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Scooby-Doo.
This is what we're rolling with.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
So I actually want to read to you or some of the
jokes You're like this littleexcerpt about this is a trivia
question answer okay I'm gonnaread this to you the.
The answer is it was going tobe rated r it was going to be
rated r.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It was going to be rated r.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Wow, they probably dropped some actually I knew
this already and, um, I rememberreading about this when James
Gunn did Guardians of the Galaxyand he was talking about his
experience doing the Scooby-Doomovie.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
So this little excerpt here says Let me realign
the mic here.
This works.
The film was originally set tohave a much darker tone,
Essentially poking fun at oldercartoons which it kind of does.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
It dropped a lot of Hanna-Barbera comments.
It even dropped a Powerpuff.
It drops a lot of cartooncomments in there.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So and was set for a PG-13 rating.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Wait for it Shaggy was set to be a stoner which
they drop almost a couple oftimes in the movie.
Then we spoke about that maryjanice's favorite name in the
movie they look like they'resmoking weed out of a van for a
second, when they're just makingburgers.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Thelma uh, why do I keep saying thelma, velma and
daphne have a side relationship.
You don't see?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
anything like that in there, but okay.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
There were many marijuana references.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
They kind of dropped a couple in there.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
According to Sarah Michelle Galler, after the cast
signed on, there was a chancechange and the film became more
family friendly.
However, by 2017, james Gunnconfirmed that the original cut
of the film got an R rating andhad to use CGI to cover cleavage
.
Wow, yeah, if I remember right,when he was talking about it,
(39:48):
there was also just like a lotmore heavy handed innuendos,
just like in your face.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I could see that.
I could see that.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
And the studio like wasn't having it that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I mean, I don't know how you could do that to
scooby-doo I.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I don't know how I'd feel about that I, I don't know
about the darker tone, the, thepoking fun at and the kind of
self-awareness like I'm here forit, but the rest of it I don't
know I feel like make it yourown thing at that point, like
make it your not scooby-doo, butmake it a different type of
mystery movie right you don'tneed to make scooby-doo into
(40:26):
that like do do a venturebrothers type thing where it's
just a general parody ofsomething yeah like.
Venture bros is just a parody of60s, 70s, maybe 80s,
superheroes and Hanna-Barberacartoons.
Why not do the same with this?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Well, it's kind of like Power Rangers, but they
want, like a grittier, more.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Oh jeez, yeah with that newer.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, they wanted, was it?
Speaker 1 (40:54):
the 14?
, 2014?
, 2015?
, something like that.
But they want to go like darker.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
They wanted to go darker than that they want to go
darker than that, like theywant to be they want to make.
They want to make our childhoodmovies or things of the 90s
dark and gritty or even backthere.
I mean, obviously scooby-doo islike 70s, 80s 60s.
I think 60s so they want tomake things of like kids more
dark and gritty, because theywant.
They think that adults want tosee that and grow up with it.
(41:21):
But in all honesty, somethinglike scooby-doo should not be
touched in that sort of way.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Same with power rangers should not be that way.
Um, no, I completely agree.
I remember there was like a fancut of like a dark and gritty
power rangers and I rememberwatching that and I I didn't
grow up on power rangers butlike I've seen it more recently
and it's got its own kind ofappeal to it and I saw the
darker version and it's like Ikind of don't want this.
(41:49):
It's, and I know, like 2002 tolike 2010, 11, 12.
We were really heavy into likethe dark, gritty kind of
christopher nolan's doing batman.
Yep, we've got daredevil.
You know, spider-man's emo andwearing black now, which, like I
know he was in the 90s, butlike, like, like that was the
(42:11):
vibe.
Yeah, like we're, we're doingthat.
Then Scooby-Doo doesn't needthat.
It's just the contrast betweenthe monsters, the villains, what
they're trying to do Preventthe sale of some land, do
(42:32):
whatever and then the fun,cartoonish, fun cartooniness of
the gang, especially scooby andshaggy is kind of the lightness
which they kind of hit in thebeginning before pamela anderson
gets there.
Thank you, I feel like the introwas kind of like primo yeah, it
(42:55):
kind of goes all downhill fromthere yeah, so I think it's
there.
There's fun like vignettes,little like moments, but that's
about it see also, they still.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
They still push out scooby-doo movies.
They still push out like thecartoons.
They still push out the powerrangers.
They still push out new seriesof power r.
Kids are going to want to watchthis or darker Like if they put
out a darker rated R version.
Kids are going to want to watchthis darker rated R version
because they see Scooby-Doo'sname attached to it.
Right, that's not what theyneed to see.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
No, but also like why is Scooby-Doo need to be rated
R?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Exactly he doesn't Like.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I get that this was maybe like incidental that it
was rated R, but like why?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
PG 13 max max.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Scooby-Doo doesn't need sexploitation to work.
No, you could it's got the name.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, the name itself .
You'll be able to sell anythingoff Scooby-Doo almost.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, you don't need to sell on sex appeal.
You don't need to sell on on ontits.
You don't need to sell onMarijuana jokes no.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Drug references.
I mean they do alcoholreferences in this movie.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
I'm not against that in general, but it just doesn't
belong in Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Agreed.
That said, I also don't need towatch this, just in general.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
This live-action one.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Because I don't normally think it's that good.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I think it's one where it's like every couple
years am I going to watch it?
Probably.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
It's like every five years for me.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Because it's going to be one where I forget.
Oh yeah, this is a live-actionScooby-Doo.
Let's check it out again.
Oh yeah, that's why I haven'twatched this in two years.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
It's you, you very quickly with this, get those
rose colored glasses, becauseit's got those little vignettes,
the little moments where you'relike, oh, that was kind of cute
, that was kind of fun.
It was Matthew Lillard.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
What did Scooby do and Shaggy do in the fart
competition?
You know, Ugh Fun.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, Also a bit excessive.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Scooby walking on the airplane in a grandma costume
Fun, and then starting to barkand growl at a cat.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Also the way Scooby's eyes moved in this, where
they're just like fluid waves.
Yeah, I didn't that that's.
That's gonna give me nightmarestonight, um, but I'm gonna give
this.
I'm gonna give this a 4.5.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I'll give it a 5 for me.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
It's like I'm gonna go back and rewatch it.
There's still fun moments in it.
The set design in this is waytoo good.
The CGI did not age well at all.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Oh everything, and there's even parts where you're
like do you really need CG there?
I mean, I guess it makes sensenow that there, and there's even
parts where you're like, do youreally need cg there?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
I mean, I guess it makes sense now that there's a
couple of parts where they butyou can't even really see that
that they cg'd over and Ibrought this up during it's like
it'd be kind of cool if theyroger abbotted it where it was a
live action crew and they justhad scooby doo and 2d hand-drawn
hannah barbarabera form andthey just don't address it.
That would be kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And just rock with it , instead of trying to make a
live-action dog.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
That would have been what I would have done if I were
in charge, because it justwould have been fun.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I think it's kind of funny, though, that some dude's
walking around probably lookinglike a dog, dog and he's costume
on the set.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
I want to see the Revenant cut where Leo gets
mauled by Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
You know, somebody's walking around in a Scooby-Doo
costume on that set.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, 100%.
The actors have to havesomebody to like interact with
yeah most actors, mostly likelillard and and uh rowan, do a
really good job at likeinteracting with this with cg
scooby-doo yeah so I'll give himthat.
That's good work therelillard's primo actor yeah, he
is.
Rowan axon is good when he'sgiven a good script yeah we're
(47:19):
given enough freedom, but 4.5.
I'm gonna revisit this probablydo.
I recommend this to kidsprobably not teens, adults.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, go for it early teens yeah early teens,
pre-teens maybe feel it out.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, know your kid know your kid know what you yeah
, lesson, uh, lesson forbackseat critics know your kid,
know your kid put that down inthe book of critics all right,
uh, until next time.
Where can they find us?
(47:58):
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Speaker 2 (47:59):
you can find us on instagram at the backseat
critics.
You can find us on youtube.
Uh, just type in the backseatcritics.
We'll pop up, not backseatcritique, backseat critics and
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You can also find us whereveryou listen to your podcasts.
Just type, type in the BackseatCritics.
Until next time.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
We out, thank you.
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