August 4, 2024 • 16 mins
Welcome to the Blue Planet Show, where we’re recapping the 25th edition of the Molokai to Oahu race. This episode features Robert Stehlik, who recently won the 14-foot stock stand-up paddleboard (SUP) division. Robert is excited about his accomplishment, sharing insights into his experience during the challenging race.
Robert starts by discussing his back-to-back participation in the Molokai crossing, having raced on wingfoil boards the previous weekend. He highlights the challenging conditions, emphasizing the grind to get into the wind line and catch bumps to start moving forward. This year’s race had all divisions starting together, making it more interesting and competitive.
Robert reflects on the evolution of the sport, noting the fluctuating popularity of stand-up paddling and prone foiling. He mentions the international competitors, especially from New Zealand and Australia, who take the sport seriously from a young age. The start was at 8 a.m., earlier than the previous weekend’s foil start. Despite being the last paddler off the beach, Robert managed to catch up and enjoy the race.
Throughout the interview, Robert details his strategic approach to the race. He talks about the advantage of starting together with other divisions, making it more engaging to have competitors around. He recounts the early part of the race, where a Brazilian paddler on an unlimited board took an early lead, but Robert maintained his pace.
The conditions were tough, with minimal waves and challenging winds. Robert chose to stay in the wind shadow, which, despite being a longer route, proved advantageous against the headwinds. He mentions his training partners, Jimmy Marshdale and Roland, who also opted for the wind shadow and performed well.
Robert discusses his equipment, highlighting his 14-foot bump rider board and Kaizen V3 paddle. The board’s stability and the paddle’s design contributed to his success. He also shares his nutrition strategy, emphasizing the importance of hydration and calorie intake during the race. He used a combination of Tailwind (a nutrition mix) and regular water, supplemented with pickle juice shots to prevent cramping.
Reflecting on past races, Robert notes his previous experiences with cramping and how pickle juice has become a reliable remedy. For nutrition, he found that baby food squeeze packs worked well, providing easy-to-digest calories. This year, he skipped his usual Poi mix due to availability issues and found the baby food to be an excellent alternative.
Robert expresses surprise at being the only participant to compete in both the foil and stand-up paddle divisions. He expected more competitors to take on both challenges but acknowledges the significant time and financial commitment involved. He mentions notable athletes like James Casey and Kai Lenny, who might have been strong contenders in both categories.
Concluding the interview, Robert reflects on the demanding nature of stand-up paddling training compared to wing foiling. He appreciates the conditioning benefits from his long paddles, which also helped improve his wing foiling performance. Despite the sport’s fluctuating popularity, Robert remains passionate about stand-up paddling and its unique challenges.
Congratulations to Robert Stehlik for his impressive achievements in both divisions of the Molokai to Oahu race. Stay tuned for more exciting interviews and race recaps on the Blue Planet Show. Aloha!
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How's it going guys? Welcome to the Blue Planet Show with the 25th edition of the Molokai to O'ahu crossing.
.001Here we have competitor Robert Stehlik. 3 00:00:09,180.001 --> 00:00:10,490.001 He can introduce himself.
.001Yeah Robert Stehlik and super stoked to do the Molokai crossing twice in two weekends. 5 00:00:17,650.001 --> 00:00:23,670.001 Last weekend we did it on wingfoil boards and Derek and I were chasing each other at the end. 6 00:00:23,900.001 --> 00:00:25,204.901 Coming into Waikiki, that was it. 7 00:00:25,205.101 --> 00:00:31,84.901 And then today I did have a stand up paddle board, 14 foot stock board. 8 00:00:31,85.001 --> 00:00:37,815.001 And it was actually really tough for I thought it was, the conditions were actually really difficult, really challenging.
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.001But, I'm stoked I finished first, first place in the stock division, so third, third overall stand up. 10 00:00:45,425.001 --> 00:00:45,671.534333333 I'm excited. 11 00:00:46,961.634333333 --> 00:00:48,21.634333333 And of course, I'm super stoked. 12 00:00:48,21.634333333 --> 00:00:59,701.534833333 I've never had this before to get the first place finisher in the division, but, it's also part of the reason is that there's not that many pros or like top level guys competing, that's interesting. 13 00:00:59,941.535833333 --> 00:01:03,981.535833333 I started doing the multi racing in 2009 was the first time I did it. 14 00:01:04,761.535833333 --> 00:01:08,101.535833333 And back then there was only a handful of standup paddlers doing it. 15 00:01:08,851.535833333 --> 00:01:09,581.535833333 And then it grew. 16 00:01:11,206.535833333 --> 00:01:15,696.535833333 Oh, you saw the wave then, how it how it got bigger and it is starting to go back down now. 17 00:01:16,396.535833333 --> 00:01:17,786.535833333 Yeah, now it's smaller again. 18 00:01:18,146.535833333 --> 00:01:18,236.535833333 Yeah. 19 00:01:18,366.536833333 --> 00:01:22,46.536833333 For a while, the stand up division was way bigger than the prone foiling division. 20 00:01:22,46.536833333 --> 00:01:25,316.536833333 But, it seems like prone foiling is making a major comeback. 21 00:01:25,316.536833333 --> 00:01:26,656.535333333 Yeah, it seems or the prone paddling. 22 00:01:26,656.535333333 --> 00:01:27,706.535833333 Yeah, way more prone paddlers. 23 00:01:27,706.535833333 --> 00:01:28,76.535833333 Yes, yeah. 24 00:01:28,486.535833333 --> 00:01:30,616.535833333 And, really competitive too. 25 00:01:30,616.535833333 --> 00:01:36,256.535833333 There's people from, coming from New Zealand, Australia, and they take it very seriously there. 26 00:01:36,256.535833333 --> 00:01:36,456.535833333 Yeah. 27 00:01:36,456.535833333 --> 00:01:41,76.53533333 For them it's like a team sport, they start very young at school. 28 00:01:41,76.53533333 --> 00:01:41,456.33633333 Yeah. 29 00:01:41,456.43633333 --> 00:01:46,146.43633333 Train on the surf rescue boards, and so it's cool to see that. 30 00:01:46,476.43533333 --> 00:01:46,726.43533333 Yeah. 31 00:01:46,766.43633333 --> 00:01:51,936.43683333 I think there's clubs in Australia and down south that they just drew them from a young age, yeah. 32 00:01:52,736.43683333 --> 00:01:53,146.43683333 So that's cool. 33 00:01:53,166.43683333 --> 00:01:53,916.43683333 That's awesome. 34 00:01:53,926.43683333 --> 00:01:54,356.43683333 Yes. 35 00:01:55,426.43683333 --> 00:02:01,886.43683333 How was the condition? So the conditions at the start when you guys what time did you guys start this morning? So we started at 8 a. 36 00:02:01,886.43683333 --> 00:02:04,676.43583333 m, which was a lot earlier than like last week weekend. 37 00:02:04,676.43683333 --> 00:02:06,511.43683333 The foil start was at 11. 38 00:02:06,511.43683333 --> 00:02:07,216.33683333 Yeah. 39 00:02:07,216.43683333 --> 00:02:20,538.59583333 So that was a lot earlier, but So it was a little bit tighter this, you know between getting up getting the timer having the pulley Getting the board from the boat and getting everything on the boat and closing up Eli's place and stuff like that. 40 00:02:20,538.59583333 --> 00:02:23,414.47583333 I was definitely I was like the last paddler off the beach. 41 00:02:23,894.47583333 --> 00:02:24,354.47583333 Oh wow. 42 00:02:24,394.47583333 --> 00:02:26,264.47583333 But I still had plenty of time to get to the start. 43 00:02:26,304.47583333 --> 00:02:26,524.47583333 Yeah. 44 00:02:26,524.47583333 --> 00:02:34,254.37583333 They were like calling me, whose red board is still on the beach? What's going on? Classic. 45 00:02:34,254.47583333 --> 00:02:46,924.47583333 And then you guys did you guys start on the beach at Kalua Koi or did you guys head outside like how they did with the foil edition? Yeah, the foil addition, we started it all the way at the Leo Point, yeah, like at the like almost like mile upwind. 46 00:02:46,924.57583333 --> 00:02:50,324.47516667 This start was just in the next bay over, so it was really close. 47 00:02:50,324.47516667 --> 00:02:51,694.37566667 Oh, okay, Monkey Horse, that area. 48 00:02:51,694.37566667 --> 00:02:53,12.79141667 Yeah, really close to the Harua Koi. 49 00:02:53,272.79241667 --> 00:02:53,852.79241667 Oh, okay. 50 00:02:54,82.79241667 --> 00:02:54,492.79241667 Wow, right on. 51 00:02:54,852.79141667 --> 00:02:55,332.79341667 Yeah good. 52 00:02:55,522.79341667 --> 00:02:59,92.79441667 And in the beginning, it was just a grind to get out into the wet wind line. 53 00:02:59,557.79441667 --> 00:03:01,397.79441667 and catch bumps and then start going. 54 00:03:01,447.79441667 --> 00:03:05,217.79341667 Yeah, so this year the the start was everybody started together. 55 00:03:05,217.79341667 --> 00:03:09,407.79441667 The pro paddlers, that was the first time usually they started the stand up paddlers separately. 56 00:03:09,597.79441667 --> 00:03:15,307.79341667 And then Last year we had like wing foiling, stand up foiling, prong paddling, stand up paddling. 57 00:03:15,307.79341667 --> 00:03:16,647.79341667 Everybody had a separate start. 58 00:03:17,217.79341667 --> 00:03:18,557.79341667 This year everyone was starting together. 59 00:03:18,597.79341667 --> 00:03:26,297.79341667 So that was cool actually because then it was like a little bit denser pad field and I was always, I always saw other people in front of me. 60 00:03:26,907.79341667 --> 00:03:30,697.79341667 So that made it a little bit more interesting to have other people to chase around. 61 00:03:31,267.79341667 --> 00:03:34,97.79341667 But yeah the start was pretty flat water. 62 00:03:34,677.79341667 --> 00:03:34,927.79341667 Yeah. 63 00:03:35,27.79341667 --> 00:03:38,157.69441667 There was that one, the one Brazilian guy on the left. 64 00:03:39,77.79441667 --> 00:03:39,807.79441667 Unlimited board. 65 00:03:39,807.79441667 --> 00:03:43,107.79441667 He just took off and was like, got way ahead of everybody. 66 00:03:43,337.79441667 --> 00:03:44,707.79441667 I was like, okay, I'll see you later. 67 00:03:45,527.79441667 --> 00:03:49,347.79441667 So I thought he would finish like an hour ahead of me or something like that, but he was only, yeah. 68 00:03:49,347.89441667 --> 00:03:51,903.77441667 Watching the tracker. 69 00:03:51,903.77441667 --> 00:03:54,317.79441667 You guys are competitive. 70 00:03:54,317.79441667 --> 00:03:58,537.79441667 That one guy from, I think it was Spain or a it's L he took off. 71 00:03:58,537.79441667 --> 00:03:59,877.79441667 He was like gone, yeah. 72 00:04:00,557.79441667 --> 00:04:03,342.79441667 But you guys, The other Brazilian guy. 73 00:04:03,342.79441667 --> 00:04:05,322.79441667 Yeah, the other Brazilian guy, Rosa, I believe. 74 00:04:05,582.79441667 --> 00:04:12,682.79441667 He was you guys were competing back to back, and I was looking and wondering what board he was on, but he was on an Unlimited stand up board. 75 00:04:12,762.79441667 --> 00:04:13,182.79441667 Yeah. 76 00:04:13,192.79441667 --> 00:04:16,862.79441667 So that's a lot bigger and has a rudder control, right? Yeah. 77 00:04:16,962.79441667 --> 00:04:17,432.69441667 Easier to control. 78 00:04:18,282.79441667 --> 00:04:25,2.79341667 Yeah, so he passed me like after a few miles and then I kept catching up to him and we were neck and neck for a while. 79 00:04:25,72.79441667 --> 00:04:29,102.79441667 And then he just had a better board speed and I just let him go. 80 00:04:29,102.79541667 --> 00:04:36,927.89541667 I didn't want to chase him and burn myself out trying to keep up with him on a 14 foot board, which I think it was a good move because. 81 00:04:36,928.09541667 --> 00:04:41,948.09541667 He was actually, had quite a, he was probably like five or ten minutes ahead of me at the port log. 82 00:04:42,248.09541667 --> 00:04:48,227.94441667 In the bay, yeah, when you guys came into the bay, right? And then I went on the inside route, so I went along the, along the wall. 83 00:04:48,227.94441667 --> 00:04:48,417.74541667 Yeah. 84 00:04:48,417.84541667 --> 00:04:50,17.84441667 Where there's a wind shadow. 85 00:04:50,787.84541667 --> 00:04:55,497.84541667 So and I saw him like in the middle of the day, like just struggling against the paddling. 86 00:04:55,497.84541667 --> 00:04:57,287.84541667 It's a win, and I made pretty good progress. 87 00:04:57,787.84541667 --> 00:05:03,977.84441667 It's a longer distance, but to me, it's when it's on a windy day, it's always faster to stay in the wind shadow. 88 00:05:04,107.84541667 --> 00:05:04,247.84491667 Yeah. 89 00:05:04,247.84491667 --> 00:05:10,27.84541667 And then my training partners Jimmy Marshdale and Roland did the same thing and they did pretty well too. 90 00:05:10,127.84541667 --> 00:05:21,352.84541667 Yeah, it looked like there was a longer distance more like a prolonged pronounce and they were straight and you figure a straight line, right? And you always get best, but yeah, you guys just, pull the head and stuff like that. 91 00:05:21,362.84541667 --> 00:05:36,831.67752778 When the other guys like if it was looking at the tracker, I'm sure you're going to look at the dot vision tracker and your guys were steady five, four, and there's at some points it was going backwards, almost, like two miles an hour, which was like, like the wind, the headwinds and stuff like that. 92 00:05:36,831.67752778 --> 00:05:39,941.67752778 I think maybe they might've got little benefits from the boat. 93 00:05:40,436.67752778 --> 00:05:43,886.67752778 And that might have been better, but yeah, definitely you guys had a good time. 94 00:05:43,886.67752778 --> 00:05:44,86.67752778 Yeah. 95 00:05:44,86.67752778 --> 00:05:47,416.67752778 And sometimes when there's a good swell, sometimes you can catch waves coming into. 96 00:05:47,466.67752778 --> 00:05:49,776.67952778 But it was really not much waves today. 97 00:05:49,786.67952778 --> 00:05:57,904.84552778 And then, so it's, I think the staying in the wind shadow is definitely an advantage, especially when you're tired already and then you have to fight head wind, it's that's what it is. 98 00:05:58,394.94552778 --> 00:05:58,484.94552778 Yeah. 99 00:05:58,554.94552778 --> 00:06:00,284.94552778 To me that's always the fun part, coming in. 100 00:06:00,284.94552778 --> 00:06:03,264.94552778 It's home stretch, and I know I can, I know I can do it. 101 00:06:03,524.94552778 --> 00:06:15,804.84702778 Your time and your distance, do you know what you actually outside Black Point, I kept falling in, or outside Portluck, I kept falling in, and somehow I must have turned off my GPS, so I lost my time. 102 00:06:15,804.94702778 --> 00:06:20,29.94702778 But the start was at 8, and I finished Before two o'clock. 103 00:06:20,29.94702778 --> 00:06:21,749.94702778 So it's less than six hours. 104 00:06:22,599.94702778 --> 00:06:25,759.94702778 I'm not sure what my finish time is yet, but I trust that they got it. 105 00:06:26,319.94702778 --> 00:06:33,169.98069444 Don't have my own finish time, unfortunately my, my record time in the, on a 14 foot board was five 29. 106 00:06:33,169.98069444 --> 00:06:37,419.94802778 So it's definitely not a record time for me but I'll take it, yeah, exactly. 107 00:06:37,419.94802778 --> 00:06:38,39.84802778 Yeah. 108 00:06:38,39.94802778 --> 00:06:39,219.94802778 It looks like. 109 00:06:40,414.94802778 --> 00:06:42,164.94802778 It really depends on the channel. 110 00:06:42,164.94802778 --> 00:06:44,634.94802778 Like some years the channel is fast, the turns are good. 111 00:06:44,635.04802778 --> 00:06:49,284.94702778 You make it across quickly, and other years it's just not cooperating. 112 00:06:49,644.94802778 --> 00:06:54,744.95002778 This year was definitely a tough race where I don't think anybody has set any records this year. 113 00:06:54,834.94902778 --> 00:06:55,44.94902778 Yeah. 114 00:06:55,294.94802778 --> 00:06:56,164.94802778 That would be a surprise. 115 00:06:56,224.94802778 --> 00:06:56,554.94802778 Yeah. 116 00:06:56,634.94802778 --> 00:06:59,624.94802778 But I saw Jamie Mitchell was prone paddling. 117 00:06:59,674.94802778 --> 00:07:00,284.84902778 I saw him. 118 00:07:00,354.94902778 --> 00:07:05,364.94902778 At the start this morning, and he, I don't think he's, he was semi retired for a while. 119 00:07:05,414.94902778 --> 00:07:10,782.96902778 He won this race like, I don't even know, like at least 10 times in a row or something like that. 120 00:07:10,782.96902778 --> 00:07:11,690.98902778 More than that. 121 00:07:11,780.98902778 --> 00:07:12,110.98902778 Yeah. 122 00:07:12,810.98802778 --> 00:07:16,40.88902778 So he's like almost like the Kelly Slater's paddleboard. 123 00:07:16,41.08902778 --> 00:07:19,750.98902778 But then he semi retired, but it looks like he's back. 124 00:07:19,800.98902778 --> 00:07:22,870.98902778 It would be interesting to get, maybe I can get an interview with him, too. 125 00:07:23,300.98902778 --> 00:07:28,180.88902778 Yeah, I saw that he was on the some escort boat, and he was actually showing, showcasing the paddlers. 126 00:07:28,180.98902778 --> 00:07:30,230.98802778 Oh, he was on an escort boat? Oh, okay. 127 00:07:30,935.98902778 --> 00:07:31,685.98902778 So he is retired. 128 00:07:31,695.98902778 --> 00:07:39,905.98802778 I thought he would be paddling, making a comeback, but Looking at the stats on the MyDotVision, it looked like you did 31. 129 00:07:39,965.98902778 --> 00:07:45,295.98802778 8 miles, and your finish time was 5 hours 55 minutes and 38 seconds. 130 00:07:45,296.08802778 --> 00:07:47,665.98902778 5 52? 5. 131 00:07:47,925.98802778 --> 00:07:48,525.98902778 52, yeah. 132 00:07:48,526.08902778 --> 00:07:50,165.98902778 That's pretty good. 133 00:07:50,455.98902778 --> 00:07:51,625.98902778 Actually, less than 32 miles. 134 00:07:51,805.98902778 --> 00:07:53,945.98902778 I don't know if I've ever done it in that little Yeah. 135 00:07:54,185.98902778 --> 00:07:58,865.98902778 And what was your record time, or your time before your best? Personal best? 529. 136 00:07:59,95.98902778 --> 00:07:59,535.78902778 Oh okay. 137 00:07:59,535.88902778 --> 00:08:00,545.88902778 So just a little bit more. 138 00:08:01,195.88902778 --> 00:08:03,85.88902778 Yeah, in 2019, I did. 139 00:08:03,335.88902778 --> 00:08:07,795.88902778 Last week was actually your personal best, right? What was that, two hours? Two hours, eighteen minutes. 140 00:08:08,475.88902778 --> 00:08:09,265.78902778 Yeah. 141 00:08:09,265.88902778 --> 00:08:11,515.88902778 The year before it was under two hours when we finished here. 142 00:08:11,515.88902778 --> 00:08:12,895.88902778 Yeah, when we came in here, yeah. 143 00:08:13,15.88902778 --> 00:08:13,955.88902778 On a wingboard, yeah. 144 00:08:14,255.88902778 --> 00:08:20,805.78802778 It's crazy to think that, yeah, to do it in two hours versus five hours, six hours, almost six hours, yeah. 145 00:08:21,135.78802778 --> 00:08:24,565.78802778 When we're winging, it's three times the speed, it's like fast forwarding through the race. 146 00:08:25,155.78802778 --> 00:08:25,435.58802778 Yeah. 147 00:08:25,435.68802778 --> 00:08:29,645.68752778 And if you was on what kind of equipment did you have? Like your your board and your paddles. 148 00:08:29,735.78752778 --> 00:08:38,65.78752778 And water packed, yeah so I had a 14 foot bump rider, which is 28 inches wide, which was definitely a good board for today. 149 00:08:38,105.78752778 --> 00:08:43,435.78702778 It was like, I think part of why I won the 14 foot division is because I had a good, it's a good board, nice. 150 00:08:43,795.78702778 --> 00:08:45,535.78802778 It's a little bit wider, more stable. 151 00:08:45,535.88802778 --> 00:08:45,935.78802778 Yeah. 152 00:08:45,935.88802778 --> 00:08:47,905.78802778 I know Roland, my training partner, was always there. 153 00:08:48,175.88802778 --> 00:08:49,535.88802778 faster than me in training. 154 00:08:49,535.88802778 --> 00:08:52,505.88802778 And I was just like, if I can beat Roland, I'm happy. 155 00:08:52,505.98802778 --> 00:09:06,385.98852778 I didn't really think I would win this whole thing, but I was just trying to be faster than Roland, but he had a narrower board, so I'm sure that he was struggling a lot with the balancing today and then Yeah, just that board has a little bit of rocker. 156 00:09:06,405.98852778 --> 00:09:10,875.88852778 It just fits well in the box and it surfs well. 157 00:09:10,875.98852778 --> 00:09:14,641.03852778 And then I got my Kaizen V3 paddle, which is an awesome paddle. 158 00:09:14,641.03852778 --> 00:09:15,635.98852778 It works really well. 159 00:09:15,645.98852778 --> 00:09:15,955.98852778 Okay. 160 00:09:16,305.98752778 --> 00:09:17,605.98852778 Also, it's not too wide. 161 00:09:17,605.98852778 --> 00:09:18,145.98752778 It's perfect. 162 00:09:18,155.98852778 --> 00:09:18,695.98852778 Nice. 163 00:09:18,715.98752778 --> 00:09:19,795.98752778 So you can just dig in. 164 00:09:19,975.98752778 --> 00:09:22,915.98752778 Not a lot of strain on your shoulders and everything else. 165 00:09:23,525.98752778 --> 00:09:23,825.98752778 Yeah. 166 00:09:24,65.98752778 --> 00:09:25,705.98852778 It's got the shaped blade. 167 00:09:26,60.98852778 --> 00:09:26,900.98852778 But longer blades. 168 00:09:26,910.98852778 --> 00:09:30,420.98852778 And it's not super long too, like some people use really long pals. 169 00:09:30,420.98852778 --> 00:09:31,350.98852778 I like mine. 170 00:09:31,350.98852778 --> 00:09:33,450.98852778 It's just like maybe fist over my head, oh, okay. 171 00:09:33,600.98852778 --> 00:09:34,410.98852778 Not super long. 172 00:09:34,410.98852778 --> 00:09:37,950.98852778 But yeah, it just helps with balancing too, if the pals not too long. 173 00:09:37,950.98852778 --> 00:09:38,760.98852778 Okay, perfect. 174 00:09:38,970.98852778 --> 00:09:46,690.98852778 Now, and then for Wing foiling, different, what did you use for Wing foiling last weekend? I used a six meter, six meter Superfly Wing. 175 00:09:47,20.98852778 --> 00:09:47,900.98852778 Yeah, that was pretty good. 176 00:09:47,900.98852778 --> 00:09:47,990.98852778 Yeah. 177 00:09:48,170.98852778 --> 00:09:49,260.98852778 A lot of power and stuff. 178 00:09:49,420.98852778 --> 00:09:53,440.98852778 I mean it was enough power for the amount of wind that we had in certain areas you know. 179 00:09:53,440.98852778 --> 00:09:53,740.98852778 Yeah. 180 00:09:53,780.98852778 --> 00:09:55,430.98852778 That dead zone you just had to. 181 00:09:55,570.98852778 --> 00:10:06,530.98852778 Would you have used the seven meter if you knew were you thinking that it would have been better or? I think the seven meter because of my height I would it would have been more restricted because of the you know they would be touching it. 182 00:10:06,720.98852778 --> 00:10:07,40.98852778 Yeah. 183 00:10:07,140.98852778 --> 00:10:08,80.98852778 Making me fall in. 184 00:10:08,300.98852778 --> 00:10:12,340.98852778 So maybe if it was a seven meter but more narrow but long I don't know you know. 185 00:10:12,730.98852778 --> 00:10:19,600.98952778 It just it depends but yeah, that could be an option, it would definitely need to be practiced a lot. 186 00:10:19,850.98952778 --> 00:10:21,990.78952778 Before I just grab it and go, yeah. 187 00:10:21,990.88952778 --> 00:10:22,670.88952778 But definitely. 188 00:10:23,640.88952778 --> 00:10:29,280.88952778 Or maybe 5 would probably be Maybe, or maybe we can make you a wing that works for you better. 189 00:10:29,340.88952778 --> 00:10:36,307.52286111 Because, like you said, if you can't bring the wing down vertical, then Because it keeps touching and that's not good. 190 00:10:36,307.52286111 --> 00:10:37,860.88952778 And you don't use the whole wing. 191 00:10:38,20.88952778 --> 00:10:38,300.88952778 Yeah. 192 00:10:38,580.88952778 --> 00:10:43,170.88952778 I look at sailboats and the most efficient is the ones that's straight up and down and they're pulling in, right? Yeah. 193 00:10:43,190.88852778 --> 00:10:44,200.88952778 So yeah, maybe something like that. 194 00:10:44,200.88952778 --> 00:10:46,410.88852778 America's Cup, right? Yeah, exactly. 195 00:10:46,460.98852778 --> 00:10:51,455.98852778 And you said you had a new, that you hadn't really tried or practiced on. 196 00:10:51,455.98852778 --> 00:10:52,145.98852778 So that was weird. 197 00:10:52,145.98852778 --> 00:10:53,595.98852778 Yeah, I met up with Alex. 198 00:10:53,595.98852778 --> 00:10:55,835.93852778 He's Hey, try to take this and stuff like that. 199 00:10:55,835.93852778 --> 00:10:56,465.98852778 And I was fast. 200 00:10:56,465.98852778 --> 00:11:02,625.98902778 I could see him, when he was riding and stuff, but I just wasn't used to that size, the wing and then a tail. 201 00:11:02,625.98902778 --> 00:11:03,685.98802778 The tail was a little bit longer. 202 00:11:03,685.98802778 --> 00:11:07,345.98902778 So it was just one of those, you learn, right? After that. 203 00:11:07,915.98902778 --> 00:11:20,415.98902778 For this race here, how was your endurance? Any cramping, any kind of areas of concern on your body aches or whatever? And also, what about your type of nutrition? Water, hydration, nutrition. 204 00:11:20,415.98902778 --> 00:11:28,326.09002778 What did you bring along? And did the boat escort give you any kind of just hand off stuff to you as you were going, as you were completing this 32 miles. 205 00:11:28,956.09002778 --> 00:11:30,266.09002778 Yeah, that's a good question. 206 00:11:30,316.09002778 --> 00:11:41,756.09002778 That's super important, actually, the nutrition and because you can't really go, you can go two hours without having food and, We take water, but I barely drank water actually during the race. 207 00:11:41,756.09002778 --> 00:11:51,406.08902778 It was like, drank a bunch before the start and then maybe take a few sips along the way, but you can go two hours without drinking much, but five hours is like impossible. 208 00:11:51,406.08902778 --> 00:11:56,375.98902778 And if you don't refuel calories and liquids yeah, you're not going to finish it. 209 00:11:56,746.08902778 --> 00:11:57,776.08902778 Yeah, you're going to lock up. 210 00:11:57,776.08902778 --> 00:11:58,623.18902778 Your body's not going to agree with this. 211 00:11:58,623.18902778 --> 00:11:59,716.08902778 Yeah, you're going to cramp up and stuff like that. 212 00:11:59,926.08902778 --> 00:12:03,406.08902778 I have two water bags, and I have these bladders that have two compartments. 213 00:12:03,466.08902778 --> 00:12:12,475.98802778 I have one where I mix in this stuff called Tailwind, which is it has electrolytes and sugars, calories, so it's like a yeah, it's like a nutrition mix. 214 00:12:12,555.98802778 --> 00:12:14,435.98802778 So that's half one half of the bladder. 215 00:12:14,435.98802778 --> 00:12:16,20.98802778 And the other half I just have regular water. 216 00:12:16,20.98802778 --> 00:12:16,205.98802778 Regular water. 217 00:12:16,685.98802778 --> 00:12:16,715.98802778 Okay. 218 00:12:16,715.98802778 --> 00:12:20,195.98802778 Sometimes, especially when, if I'm eating something, I wanna just drink water. 219 00:12:20,200.98802778 --> 00:12:23,585.98802778 I don't want something in the water, so you don't need all of flavor. 220 00:12:23,665.98802778 --> 00:12:24,865.98802778 And that worked out really well. 221 00:12:24,915.98802778 --> 00:12:33,645.98802778 And then I have pickle juice shots, these little bottles that have this really salty, pickled juice with vinegar and salt And when I was starting to feel my trice. 222 00:12:33,800.98802778 --> 00:12:36,780.98802778 It's cramping up a little bit, so I just took a pickle a few shots. 223 00:12:37,250.98802778 --> 00:12:49,196.92702778 And that helps me a lot, because I've had some mohawkeye races where I was totally cramping up, my abs were cramping, my arms, my forearms, like, where my fingers were just like this, and I had to push them back open. 224 00:12:49,197.02702778 --> 00:12:54,347.02702778 I've had really bad cramping before, but today, yeah, the pickle juice works for me like that. 225 00:12:54,347.02702778 --> 00:12:54,417.02702778 Yeah. 226 00:12:54,627.02702778 --> 00:12:56,231.92702778 Makes it go away, and then, just, yeah. 227 00:12:56,522.02702778 --> 00:12:58,452.02702778 Having a lot of salt and electrolytes. 228 00:12:58,452.02702778 --> 00:13:00,571.92702778 Yeah, that's important. 229 00:13:00,572.02702778 --> 00:13:08,172.02702778 So you never had any, before you never had the pickle juice, like nobody really used that before, but pickle juice was always around, right? Yeah. 230 00:13:08,172.02702778 --> 00:13:08,841.92702778 Yeah. 231 00:13:08,842.02702778 --> 00:13:09,82.02652778 Yeah. 232 00:13:09,82.02652778 --> 00:13:09,622.02652778 It's crazy. 233 00:13:09,622.02652778 --> 00:13:12,732.02552778 Oh, and then it's like a pretty common remedy. 234 00:13:12,782.02552778 --> 00:13:16,682.02652778 When I was studying it, like I just looked up online and what do people do with like cramp and stuff. 235 00:13:17,162.02652778 --> 00:13:24,872.02652778 And yeah, pickle juice is one of those things, like when people cramp at night, they drink pickle juice and it goes away, and then, so I tried it and it seems to work pretty well, awesome. 236 00:13:24,952.02652778 --> 00:13:25,922.02552778 I don't know exactly what it is. 237 00:13:25,922.02652778 --> 00:13:30,62.02652778 I think part of it is the salt and, but part of it is the vinegar too, like that bitterness. 238 00:13:30,62.12652778 --> 00:13:30,358.08652778 Yeah. 239 00:13:30,358.08652778 --> 00:13:34,780.10652778 For some, it shocks your body into stopping the cramping, and you just follow it up with some water. 240 00:13:34,800.10652778 --> 00:13:35,20.10602778 Yeah. 241 00:13:35,20.10602778 --> 00:13:35,800.10652778 And wash it down and. 242 00:13:35,800.20652778 --> 00:13:35,995.00652778 Awesome. 243 00:13:35,995.20652778 --> 00:13:37,495.00652778 Yeah. 244 00:13:37,495.10652778 --> 00:13:44,995.00652778 And then for nutrition, I got actually, I got these squeezed baby food, squeezed by things. 245 00:13:44,995.10652778 --> 00:13:46,285.10652778 Like organic baby food. 246 00:13:46,285.10652778 --> 00:13:48,675.10652778 And that was actually the best ones. 247 00:13:48,675.10652778 --> 00:13:53,615.10652778 I like, I also had like gels and and some shot blocks type of thing. 248 00:13:54,255.10652778 --> 00:13:58,615.10752778 But next year, I think I'm only going to take those baby food things. 249 00:13:58,615.20752778 --> 00:14:03,565.10752778 Cause they got like 70, 80 calories and you just squeeze it in your mouth. 250 00:14:03,850.10752778 --> 00:14:06,90.10752778 And it goes on easy and digests quickly. 251 00:14:06,130.10752778 --> 00:14:09,790.10752778 So that, yeah, you look at the nutrition and stuff on those back of this stuff. 252 00:14:09,790.10752778 --> 00:14:12,690.10652778 And it's not bad because it's for children, right? Infants and stuff. 253 00:14:12,800.10752778 --> 00:14:13,90.10752778 Yeah. 254 00:14:13,90.10752778 --> 00:14:14,500.10752778 You're going, it's gotta be good. 255 00:14:14,650.10752778 --> 00:14:15,0.10752778 Yeah. 256 00:14:15,640.10652778 --> 00:14:21,200.10652778 There's some preservatives in there, but yeah, that's, you don't want something that you have to refrigerate, right? So yeah, nothing crazy. 257 00:14:21,230.10552778 --> 00:14:21,980.10652778 So that was good. 258 00:14:21,980.20652778 --> 00:14:22,340.20652778 Yeah. 259 00:14:22,880.20652778 --> 00:14:25,240.20652778 I don't know if I would do anything else different. 260 00:14:25,480.20652778 --> 00:14:30,100.20652778 Like in years past I had Poi, like I used Poi in those little squeeze bottles. 261 00:14:30,400.20652778 --> 00:14:33,350.20652778 That actually works really well too because it's not too sugary. 262 00:14:33,350.30652778 --> 00:14:36,610.20652778 And it gives you like the calories and digests easily. 263 00:14:37,90.20652778 --> 00:14:39,320.20552778 And then sometimes I would mix salt into the Poi. 264 00:14:39,320.30552778 --> 00:14:44,495.10652778 But then this year at Whole Foods, when I went to Whole Foods on Saturday, they didn't have Poi. 265 00:14:44,955.20652778 --> 00:14:47,175.20652778 So I bought the baby food. 266 00:14:47,345.20652778 --> 00:14:48,985.20652778 Actually the baby food worked out really well. 267 00:14:49,555.20652778 --> 00:14:52,555.20652778 Okay anything else? I think we covered a lot. 268 00:14:52,555.20652778 --> 00:14:53,595.20652778 Yeah congratulations. 269 00:14:53,635.20652778 --> 00:15:02,25.20552778 To your knowledge, you are the only participant that did last week's foil division as well as this week's stand up paddle. 270 00:15:02,740.20652778 --> 00:15:03,790.20652778 I would say like manually. 271 00:15:04,140.20652778 --> 00:15:13,20.20652778 How does that feel or you know of anybody else that did it? I don't know they told me when I signed up there was one other person that signed up for both. 272 00:15:13,760.20652778 --> 00:15:16,180.20552778 I'm not sure though who it is or how they finished or. 273 00:15:16,575.20552778 --> 00:15:20,885.20552778 But because this morning they told me, yeah, I think you're the only one who's doing both, who did both races. 274 00:15:20,905.20552778 --> 00:15:23,845.20452778 And I thought it would be more people like that. 275 00:15:24,25.20452778 --> 00:15:34,455.20452778 Now that they split it between foiling and regular Santa paddling and prom paddling, that there would be some guys that would want to do both, because there's some guys like James Casey, who's won this race before. 276 00:15:35,430.20552778 --> 00:15:43,469.26916414 And he's a really good stand up foiler, too, but I guess it's like a big time and money commitment, too, to come here and spend more time. 277 00:15:43,469.26916414 --> 00:15:44,707.39643687 Yeah, Kai Lenny. 278 00:15:44,707.39643687 --> 00:15:50,577.39593687 There would be a lot of guys that would be way more competitive than I am, but it seems like they're all really focused on the foiling now. 279 00:15:50,577.39593687 --> 00:15:51,447.39543687 Everything else, yeah. 280 00:15:52,97.39643687 --> 00:16:00,447.29593687 And stand up paddling is playing second fiddle now for, yeah, it's just it's crazy how it's become really a small sport again. 281 00:16:00,447.29593687 --> 00:16:00,637.19643687 Yeah. 282 00:16:00,637.39643687 --> 00:16:10,277.29643687 a lot of participants, but I think it's still really fun, and like training for standup paddling is way more demanding. 283 00:16:10,277.29643687 --> 00:16:21,577.29743687 Like I did a lot of the long paddles and that endurance training also helped me with winging, when you wing, even if you go on the waves for two hours, Not as taxing on your body and your mind and everything. 284 00:16:21,577.29743687 --> 00:16:24,797.29743687 Yeah it's not like training on a stand up paddle board for four or five hours. 285 00:16:24,797.29743687 --> 00:16:25,417.29743687 It's different. 286 00:16:25,697.29643687 --> 00:16:30,227.29643687 So I felt like that, the conditioning was really good also for my wing foot. 287 00:16:30,227.29643687 --> 00:16:30,447.29643687 Yeah. 288 00:16:30,707.29643687 --> 00:16:32,897.29543687 Kept my focus and Awesome. 289 00:16:32,987.29643687 --> 00:16:35,77.29593687 Congratulations on finishing on both sides. 290 00:16:35,77.39593687 --> 00:16:35,431.6245083 Thanks, Dick. 291 00:16:35,431.6245083 --> 00:16:36,317.19593687 Yeah, thanks for coming down. 292 00:16:36,317.29593687 --> 00:16:37,207.29593687 Yeah, awesome, man. 293 00:16:37,487.29593687 --> 00:16:39,667.29593687 And thanks Lucas for getting some drone footage too. 294 00:16:39,667.29593687 --> 00:16:41,117.2959369 Aloha and thanks for watching. 295 00:16:41,127.2959369 --> 00:16:41,747.2959369 Thank you.
How's it going guys? Welcome to the Blue Planet Show with the 25th edition of the Molokai to O'ahu crossing.
.001Here we have competitor Robert Stehlik. 3 00:00:09,180.001 --> 00:00:10,490.001 He can introduce himself.
.001Yeah Robert Stehlik and super stoked to do the Molokai crossing twice in two weekends. 5 00:00:17,650.001 --> 00:00:23,670.001 Last weekend we did it on wingfoil boards and Derek and I were chasing each other at the end. 6 00:00:23,900.001 --> 00:00:25,204.901 Coming into Waikiki, that was it. 7 00:00:25,205.101 --> 00:00:31,84.901 And then today I did have a stand up paddle board, 14 foot stock board. 8 00:00:31,85.001 --> 00:00:37,815.001 And it was actually really tough for I thought it was, the conditions were actually really difficult, really challenging.
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.001But, I'm stoked I finished first, first place in the stock division, so third, third overall stand up. 10 00:00:45,425.001 --> 00:00:45,671.534333333 I'm excited. 11 00:00:46,961.634333333 --> 00:00:48,21.634333333 And of course, I'm super stoked. 12 00:00:48,21.634333333 --> 00:00:59,701.534833333 I've never had this before to get the first place finisher in the division, but, it's also part of the reason is that there's not that many pros or like top level guys competing, that's interesting. 13 00:00:59,941.535833333 --> 00:01:03,981.535833333 I started doing the multi racing in 2009 was the first time I did it. 14 00:01:04,761.535833333 --> 00:01:08,101.535833333 And back then there was only a handful of standup paddlers doing it. 15 00:01:08,851.535833333 --> 00:01:09,581.535833333 And then it grew. 16 00:01:11,206.535833333 --> 00:01:15,696.535833333 Oh, you saw the wave then, how it how it got bigger and it is starting to go back down now. 17 00:01:16,396.535833333 --> 00:01:17,786.535833333 Yeah, now it's smaller again. 18 00:01:18,146.535833333 --> 00:01:18,236.535833333 Yeah. 19 00:01:18,366.536833333 --> 00:01:22,46.536833333 For a while, the stand up division was way bigger than the prone foiling division. 20 00:01:22,46.536833333 --> 00:01:25,316.536833333 But, it seems like prone foiling is making a major comeback. 21 00:01:25,316.536833333 --> 00:01:26,656.535333333 Yeah, it seems or the prone paddling. 22 00:01:26,656.535333333 --> 00:01:27,706.535833333 Yeah, way more prone paddlers. 23 00:01:27,706.535833333 --> 00:01:28,76.535833333 Yes, yeah. 24 00:01:28,486.535833333 --> 00:01:30,616.535833333 And, really competitive too. 25 00:01:30,616.535833333 --> 00:01:36,256.535833333 There's people from, coming from New Zealand, Australia, and they take it very seriously there. 26 00:01:36,256.535833333 --> 00:01:36,456.535833333 Yeah. 27 00:01:36,456.535833333 --> 00:01:41,76.53533333 For them it's like a team sport, they start very young at school. 28 00:01:41,76.53533333 --> 00:01:41,456.33633333 Yeah. 29 00:01:41,456.43633333 --> 00:01:46,146.43633333 Train on the surf rescue boards, and so it's cool to see that. 30 00:01:46,476.43533333 --> 00:01:46,726.43533333 Yeah. 31 00:01:46,766.43633333 --> 00:01:51,936.43683333 I think there's clubs in Australia and down south that they just drew them from a young age, yeah. 32 00:01:52,736.43683333 --> 00:01:53,146.43683333 So that's cool. 33 00:01:53,166.43683333 --> 00:01:53,916.43683333 That's awesome. 34 00:01:53,926.43683333 --> 00:01:54,356.43683333 Yes. 35 00:01:55,426.43683333 --> 00:02:01,886.43683333 How was the condition? So the conditions at the start when you guys what time did you guys start this morning? So we started at 8 a. 36 00:02:01,886.43683333 --> 00:02:04,676.43583333 m, which was a lot earlier than like last week weekend. 37 00:02:04,676.43683333 --> 00:02:06,511.43683333 The foil start was at 11. 38 00:02:06,511.43683333 --> 00:02:07,216.33683333 Yeah. 39 00:02:07,216.43683333 --> 00:02:20,538.59583333 So that was a lot earlier, but So it was a little bit tighter this, you know between getting up getting the timer having the pulley Getting the board from the boat and getting everything on the boat and closing up Eli's place and stuff like that. 40 00:02:20,538.59583333 --> 00:02:23,414.47583333 I was definitely I was like the last paddler off the beach. 41 00:02:23,894.47583333 --> 00:02:24,354.47583333 Oh wow. 42 00:02:24,394.47583333 --> 00:02:26,264.47583333 But I still had plenty of time to get to the start. 43 00:02:26,304.47583333 --> 00:02:26,524.47583333 Yeah. 44 00:02:26,524.47583333 --> 00:02:34,254.37583333 They were like calling me, whose red board is still on the beach? What's going on? Classic. 45 00:02:34,254.47583333 --> 00:02:46,924.47583333 And then you guys did you guys start on the beach at Kalua Koi or did you guys head outside like how they did with the foil edition? Yeah, the foil addition, we started it all the way at the Leo Point, yeah, like at the like almost like mile upwind. 46 00:02:46,924.57583333 --> 00:02:50,324.47516667 This start was just in the next bay over, so it was really close. 47 00:02:50,324.47516667 --> 00:02:51,694.37566667 Oh, okay, Monkey Horse, that area. 48 00:02:51,694.37566667 --> 00:02:53,12.79141667 Yeah, really close to the Harua Koi. 49 00:02:53,272.79241667 --> 00:02:53,852.79241667 Oh, okay. 50 00:02:54,82.79241667 --> 00:02:54,492.79241667 Wow, right on. 51 00:02:54,852.79141667 --> 00:02:55,332.79341667 Yeah good. 52 00:02:55,522.79341667 --> 00:02:59,92.79441667 And in the beginning, it was just a grind to get out into the wet wind line. 53 00:02:59,557.79441667 --> 00:03:01,397.79441667 and catch bumps and then start going. 54 00:03:01,447.79441667 --> 00:03:05,217.79341667 Yeah, so this year the the start was everybody started together. 55 00:03:05,217.79341667 --> 00:03:09,407.79441667 The pro paddlers, that was the first time usually they started the stand up paddlers separately. 56 00:03:09,597.79441667 --> 00:03:15,307.79341667 And then Last year we had like wing foiling, stand up foiling, prong paddling, stand up paddling. 57 00:03:15,307.79341667 --> 00:03:16,647.79341667 Everybody had a separate start. 58 00:03:17,217.79341667 --> 00:03:18,557.79341667 This year everyone was starting together. 59 00:03:18,597.79341667 --> 00:03:26,297.79341667 So that was cool actually because then it was like a little bit denser pad field and I was always, I always saw other people in front of me. 60 00:03:26,907.79341667 --> 00:03:30,697.79341667 So that made it a little bit more interesting to have other people to chase around. 61 00:03:31,267.79341667 --> 00:03:34,97.79341667 But yeah the start was pretty flat water. 62 00:03:34,677.79341667 --> 00:03:34,927.79341667 Yeah. 63 00:03:35,27.79341667 --> 00:03:38,157.69441667 There was that one, the one Brazilian guy on the left. 64 00:03:39,77.79441667 --> 00:03:39,807.79441667 Unlimited board. 65 00:03:39,807.79441667 --> 00:03:43,107.79441667 He just took off and was like, got way ahead of everybody. 66 00:03:43,337.79441667 --> 00:03:44,707.79441667 I was like, okay, I'll see you later. 67 00:03:45,527.79441667 --> 00:03:49,347.79441667 So I thought he would finish like an hour ahead of me or something like that, but he was only, yeah. 68 00:03:49,347.89441667 --> 00:03:51,903.77441667 Watching the tracker. 69 00:03:51,903.77441667 --> 00:03:54,317.79441667 You guys are competitive. 70 00:03:54,317.79441667 --> 00:03:58,537.79441667 That one guy from, I think it was Spain or a it's L he took off. 71 00:03:58,537.79441667 --> 00:03:59,877.79441667 He was like gone, yeah. 72 00:04:00,557.79441667 --> 00:04:03,342.79441667 But you guys, The other Brazilian guy. 73 00:04:03,342.79441667 --> 00:04:05,322.79441667 Yeah, the other Brazilian guy, Rosa, I believe. 74 00:04:05,582.79441667 --> 00:04:12,682.79441667 He was you guys were competing back to back, and I was looking and wondering what board he was on, but he was on an Unlimited stand up board. 75 00:04:12,762.79441667 --> 00:04:13,182.79441667 Yeah. 76 00:04:13,192.79441667 --> 00:04:16,862.79441667 So that's a lot bigger and has a rudder control, right? Yeah. 77 00:04:16,962.79441667 --> 00:04:17,432.69441667 Easier to control. 78 00:04:18,282.79441667 --> 00:04:25,2.79341667 Yeah, so he passed me like after a few miles and then I kept catching up to him and we were neck and neck for a while. 79 00:04:25,72.79441667 --> 00:04:29,102.79441667 And then he just had a better board speed and I just let him go. 80 00:04:29,102.79541667 --> 00:04:36,927.89541667 I didn't want to chase him and burn myself out trying to keep up with him on a 14 foot board, which I think it was a good move because. 81 00:04:36,928.09541667 --> 00:04:41,948.09541667 He was actually, had quite a, he was probably like five or ten minutes ahead of me at the port log. 82 00:04:42,248.09541667 --> 00:04:48,227.94441667 In the bay, yeah, when you guys came into the bay, right? And then I went on the inside route, so I went along the, along the wall. 83 00:04:48,227.94441667 --> 00:04:48,417.74541667 Yeah. 84 00:04:48,417.84541667 --> 00:04:50,17.84441667 Where there's a wind shadow. 85 00:04:50,787.84541667 --> 00:04:55,497.84541667 So and I saw him like in the middle of the day, like just struggling against the paddling. 86 00:04:55,497.84541667 --> 00:04:57,287.84541667 It's a win, and I made pretty good progress. 87 00:04:57,787.84541667 --> 00:05:03,977.84441667 It's a longer distance, but to me, it's when it's on a windy day, it's always faster to stay in the wind shadow. 88 00:05:04,107.84541667 --> 00:05:04,247.84491667 Yeah. 89 00:05:04,247.84491667 --> 00:05:10,27.84541667 And then my training partners Jimmy Marshdale and Roland did the same thing and they did pretty well too. 90 00:05:10,127.84541667 --> 00:05:21,352.84541667 Yeah, it looked like there was a longer distance more like a prolonged pronounce and they were straight and you figure a straight line, right? And you always get best, but yeah, you guys just, pull the head and stuff like that. 91 00:05:21,362.84541667 --> 00:05:36,831.67752778 When the other guys like if it was looking at the tracker, I'm sure you're going to look at the dot vision tracker and your guys were steady five, four, and there's at some points it was going backwards, almost, like two miles an hour, which was like, like the wind, the headwinds and stuff like that. 92 00:05:36,831.67752778 --> 00:05:39,941.67752778 I think maybe they might've got little benefits from the boat. 93 00:05:40,436.67752778 --> 00:05:43,886.67752778 And that might have been better, but yeah, definitely you guys had a good time. 94 00:05:43,886.67752778 --> 00:05:44,86.67752778 Yeah. 95 00:05:44,86.67752778 --> 00:05:47,416.67752778 And sometimes when there's a good swell, sometimes you can catch waves coming into. 96 00:05:47,466.67752778 --> 00:05:49,776.67952778 But it was really not much waves today. 97 00:05:49,786.67952778 --> 00:05:57,904.84552778 And then, so it's, I think the staying in the wind shadow is definitely an advantage, especially when you're tired already and then you have to fight head wind, it's that's what it is. 98 00:05:58,394.94552778 --> 00:05:58,484.94552778 Yeah. 99 00:05:58,554.94552778 --> 00:06:00,284.94552778 To me that's always the fun part, coming in. 100 00:06:00,284.94552778 --> 00:06:03,264.94552778 It's home stretch, and I know I can, I know I can do it. 101 00:06:03,524.94552778 --> 00:06:15,804.84702778 Your time and your distance, do you know what you actually outside Black Point, I kept falling in, or outside Portluck, I kept falling in, and somehow I must have turned off my GPS, so I lost my time. 102 00:06:15,804.94702778 --> 00:06:20,29.94702778 But the start was at 8, and I finished Before two o'clock. 103 00:06:20,29.94702778 --> 00:06:21,749.94702778 So it's less than six hours. 104 00:06:22,599.94702778 --> 00:06:25,759.94702778 I'm not sure what my finish time is yet, but I trust that they got it. 105 00:06:26,319.94702778 --> 00:06:33,169.98069444 Don't have my own finish time, unfortunately my, my record time in the, on a 14 foot board was five 29. 106 00:06:33,169.98069444 --> 00:06:37,419.94802778 So it's definitely not a record time for me but I'll take it, yeah, exactly. 107 00:06:37,419.94802778 --> 00:06:38,39.84802778 Yeah. 108 00:06:38,39.94802778 --> 00:06:39,219.94802778 It looks like. 109 00:06:40,414.94802778 --> 00:06:42,164.94802778 It really depends on the channel. 110 00:06:42,164.94802778 --> 00:06:44,634.94802778 Like some years the channel is fast, the turns are good. 111 00:06:44,635.04802778 --> 00:06:49,284.94702778 You make it across quickly, and other years it's just not cooperating. 112 00:06:49,644.94802778 --> 00:06:54,744.95002778 This year was definitely a tough race where I don't think anybody has set any records this year. 113 00:06:54,834.94902778 --> 00:06:55,44.94902778 Yeah. 114 00:06:55,294.94802778 --> 00:06:56,164.94802778 That would be a surprise. 115 00:06:56,224.94802778 --> 00:06:56,554.94802778 Yeah. 116 00:06:56,634.94802778 --> 00:06:59,624.94802778 But I saw Jamie Mitchell was prone paddling. 117 00:06:59,674.94802778 --> 00:07:00,284.84902778 I saw him. 118 00:07:00,354.94902778 --> 00:07:05,364.94902778 At the start this morning, and he, I don't think he's, he was semi retired for a while. 119 00:07:05,414.94902778 --> 00:07:10,782.96902778 He won this race like, I don't even know, like at least 10 times in a row or something like that. 120 00:07:10,782.96902778 --> 00:07:11,690.98902778 More than that. 121 00:07:11,780.98902778 --> 00:07:12,110.98902778 Yeah. 122 00:07:12,810.98802778 --> 00:07:16,40.88902778 So he's like almost like the Kelly Slater's paddleboard. 123 00:07:16,41.08902778 --> 00:07:19,750.98902778 But then he semi retired, but it looks like he's back. 124 00:07:19,800.98902778 --> 00:07:22,870.98902778 It would be interesting to get, maybe I can get an interview with him, too. 125 00:07:23,300.98902778 --> 00:07:28,180.88902778 Yeah, I saw that he was on the some escort boat, and he was actually showing, showcasing the paddlers. 126 00:07:28,180.98902778 --> 00:07:30,230.98802778 Oh, he was on an escort boat? Oh, okay. 127 00:07:30,935.98902778 --> 00:07:31,685.98902778 So he is retired. 128 00:07:31,695.98902778 --> 00:07:39,905.98802778 I thought he would be paddling, making a comeback, but Looking at the stats on the MyDotVision, it looked like you did 31. 129 00:07:39,965.98902778 --> 00:07:45,295.98802778 8 miles, and your finish time was 5 hours 55 minutes and 38 seconds. 130 00:07:45,296.08802778 --> 00:07:47,665.98902778 5 52? 5. 131 00:07:47,925.98802778 --> 00:07:48,525.98902778 52, yeah. 132 00:07:48,526.08902778 --> 00:07:50,165.98902778 That's pretty good. 133 00:07:50,455.98902778 --> 00:07:51,625.98902778 Actually, less than 32 miles. 134 00:07:51,805.98902778 --> 00:07:53,945.98902778 I don't know if I've ever done it in that little Yeah. 135 00:07:54,185.98902778 --> 00:07:58,865.98902778 And what was your record time, or your time before your best? Personal best? 529. 136 00:07:59,95.98902778 --> 00:07:59,535.78902778 Oh okay. 137 00:07:59,535.88902778 --> 00:08:00,545.88902778 So just a little bit more. 138 00:08:01,195.88902778 --> 00:08:03,85.88902778 Yeah, in 2019, I did. 139 00:08:03,335.88902778 --> 00:08:07,795.88902778 Last week was actually your personal best, right? What was that, two hours? Two hours, eighteen minutes. 140 00:08:08,475.88902778 --> 00:08:09,265.78902778 Yeah. 141 00:08:09,265.88902778 --> 00:08:11,515.88902778 The year before it was under two hours when we finished here. 142 00:08:11,515.88902778 --> 00:08:12,895.88902778 Yeah, when we came in here, yeah. 143 00:08:13,15.88902778 --> 00:08:13,955.88902778 On a wingboard, yeah. 144 00:08:14,255.88902778 --> 00:08:20,805.78802778 It's crazy to think that, yeah, to do it in two hours versus five hours, six hours, almost six hours, yeah. 145 00:08:21,135.78802778 --> 00:08:24,565.78802778 When we're winging, it's three times the speed, it's like fast forwarding through the race. 146 00:08:25,155.78802778 --> 00:08:25,435.58802778 Yeah. 147 00:08:25,435.68802778 --> 00:08:29,645.68752778 And if you was on what kind of equipment did you have? Like your your board and your paddles. 148 00:08:29,735.78752778 --> 00:08:38,65.78752778 And water packed, yeah so I had a 14 foot bump rider, which is 28 inches wide, which was definitely a good board for today. 149 00:08:38,105.78752778 --> 00:08:43,435.78702778 It was like, I think part of why I won the 14 foot division is because I had a good, it's a good board, nice. 150 00:08:43,795.78702778 --> 00:08:45,535.78802778 It's a little bit wider, more stable. 151 00:08:45,535.88802778 --> 00:08:45,935.78802778 Yeah. 152 00:08:45,935.88802778 --> 00:08:47,905.78802778 I know Roland, my training partner, was always there. 153 00:08:48,175.88802778 --> 00:08:49,535.88802778 faster than me in training. 154 00:08:49,535.88802778 --> 00:08:52,505.88802778 And I was just like, if I can beat Roland, I'm happy. 155 00:08:52,505.98802778 --> 00:09:06,385.98852778 I didn't really think I would win this whole thing, but I was just trying to be faster than Roland, but he had a narrower board, so I'm sure that he was struggling a lot with the balancing today and then Yeah, just that board has a little bit of rocker. 156 00:09:06,405.98852778 --> 00:09:10,875.88852778 It just fits well in the box and it surfs well. 157 00:09:10,875.98852778 --> 00:09:14,641.03852778 And then I got my Kaizen V3 paddle, which is an awesome paddle. 158 00:09:14,641.03852778 --> 00:09:15,635.98852778 It works really well. 159 00:09:15,645.98852778 --> 00:09:15,955.98852778 Okay. 160 00:09:16,305.98752778 --> 00:09:17,605.98852778 Also, it's not too wide. 161 00:09:17,605.98852778 --> 00:09:18,145.98752778 It's perfect. 162 00:09:18,155.98852778 --> 00:09:18,695.98852778 Nice. 163 00:09:18,715.98752778 --> 00:09:19,795.98752778 So you can just dig in. 164 00:09:19,975.98752778 --> 00:09:22,915.98752778 Not a lot of strain on your shoulders and everything else. 165 00:09:23,525.98752778 --> 00:09:23,825.98752778 Yeah. 166 00:09:24,65.98752778 --> 00:09:25,705.98852778 It's got the shaped blade. 167 00:09:26,60.98852778 --> 00:09:26,900.98852778 But longer blades. 168 00:09:26,910.98852778 --> 00:09:30,420.98852778 And it's not super long too, like some people use really long pals. 169 00:09:30,420.98852778 --> 00:09:31,350.98852778 I like mine. 170 00:09:31,350.98852778 --> 00:09:33,450.98852778 It's just like maybe fist over my head, oh, okay. 171 00:09:33,600.98852778 --> 00:09:34,410.98852778 Not super long. 172 00:09:34,410.98852778 --> 00:09:37,950.98852778 But yeah, it just helps with balancing too, if the pals not too long. 173 00:09:37,950.98852778 --> 00:09:38,760.98852778 Okay, perfect. 174 00:09:38,970.98852778 --> 00:09:46,690.98852778 Now, and then for Wing foiling, different, what did you use for Wing foiling last weekend? I used a six meter, six meter Superfly Wing. 175 00:09:47,20.98852778 --> 00:09:47,900.98852778 Yeah, that was pretty good. 176 00:09:47,900.98852778 --> 00:09:47,990.98852778 Yeah. 177 00:09:48,170.98852778 --> 00:09:49,260.98852778 A lot of power and stuff. 178 00:09:49,420.98852778 --> 00:09:53,440.98852778 I mean it was enough power for the amount of wind that we had in certain areas you know. 179 00:09:53,440.98852778 --> 00:09:53,740.98852778 Yeah. 180 00:09:53,780.98852778 --> 00:09:55,430.98852778 That dead zone you just had to. 181 00:09:55,570.98852778 --> 00:10:06,530.98852778 Would you have used the seven meter if you knew were you thinking that it would have been better or? I think the seven meter because of my height I would it would have been more restricted because of the you know they would be touching it. 182 00:10:06,720.98852778 --> 00:10:07,40.98852778 Yeah. 183 00:10:07,140.98852778 --> 00:10:08,80.98852778 Making me fall in. 184 00:10:08,300.98852778 --> 00:10:12,340.98852778 So maybe if it was a seven meter but more narrow but long I don't know you know. 185 00:10:12,730.98852778 --> 00:10:19,600.98952778 It just it depends but yeah, that could be an option, it would definitely need to be practiced a lot. 186 00:10:19,850.98952778 --> 00:10:21,990.78952778 Before I just grab it and go, yeah. 187 00:10:21,990.88952778 --> 00:10:22,670.88952778 But definitely. 188 00:10:23,640.88952778 --> 00:10:29,280.88952778 Or maybe 5 would probably be Maybe, or maybe we can make you a wing that works for you better. 189 00:10:29,340.88952778 --> 00:10:36,307.52286111 Because, like you said, if you can't bring the wing down vertical, then Because it keeps touching and that's not good. 190 00:10:36,307.52286111 --> 00:10:37,860.88952778 And you don't use the whole wing. 191 00:10:38,20.88952778 --> 00:10:38,300.88952778 Yeah. 192 00:10:38,580.88952778 --> 00:10:43,170.88952778 I look at sailboats and the most efficient is the ones that's straight up and down and they're pulling in, right? Yeah. 193 00:10:43,190.88852778 --> 00:10:44,200.88952778 So yeah, maybe something like that. 194 00:10:44,200.88952778 --> 00:10:46,410.88852778 America's Cup, right? Yeah, exactly. 195 00:10:46,460.98852778 --> 00:10:51,455.98852778 And you said you had a new, that you hadn't really tried or practiced on. 196 00:10:51,455.98852778 --> 00:10:52,145.98852778 So that was weird. 197 00:10:52,145.98852778 --> 00:10:53,595.98852778 Yeah, I met up with Alex. 198 00:10:53,595.98852778 --> 00:10:55,835.93852778 He's Hey, try to take this and stuff like that. 199 00:10:55,835.93852778 --> 00:10:56,465.98852778 And I was fast. 200 00:10:56,465.98852778 --> 00:11:02,625.98902778 I could see him, when he was riding and stuff, but I just wasn't used to that size, the wing and then a tail. 201 00:11:02,625.98902778 --> 00:11:03,685.98802778 The tail was a little bit longer. 202 00:11:03,685.98802778 --> 00:11:07,345.98902778 So it was just one of those, you learn, right? After that. 203 00:11:07,915.98902778 --> 00:11:20,415.98902778 For this race here, how was your endurance? Any cramping, any kind of areas of concern on your body aches or whatever? And also, what about your type of nutrition? Water, hydration, nutrition. 204 00:11:20,415.98902778 --> 00:11:28,326.09002778 What did you bring along? And did the boat escort give you any kind of just hand off stuff to you as you were going, as you were completing this 32 miles. 205 00:11:28,956.09002778 --> 00:11:30,266.09002778 Yeah, that's a good question. 206 00:11:30,316.09002778 --> 00:11:41,756.09002778 That's super important, actually, the nutrition and because you can't really go, you can go two hours without having food and, We take water, but I barely drank water actually during the race. 207 00:11:41,756.09002778 --> 00:11:51,406.08902778 It was like, drank a bunch before the start and then maybe take a few sips along the way, but you can go two hours without drinking much, but five hours is like impossible. 208 00:11:51,406.08902778 --> 00:11:56,375.98902778 And if you don't refuel calories and liquids yeah, you're not going to finish it. 209 00:11:56,746.08902778 --> 00:11:57,776.08902778 Yeah, you're going to lock up. 210 00:11:57,776.08902778 --> 00:11:58,623.18902778 Your body's not going to agree with this. 211 00:11:58,623.18902778 --> 00:11:59,716.08902778 Yeah, you're going to cramp up and stuff like that. 212 00:11:59,926.08902778 --> 00:12:03,406.08902778 I have two water bags, and I have these bladders that have two compartments. 213 00:12:03,466.08902778 --> 00:12:12,475.98802778 I have one where I mix in this stuff called Tailwind, which is it has electrolytes and sugars, calories, so it's like a yeah, it's like a nutrition mix. 214 00:12:12,555.98802778 --> 00:12:14,435.98802778 So that's half one half of the bladder. 215 00:12:14,435.98802778 --> 00:12:16,20.98802778 And the other half I just have regular water. 216 00:12:16,20.98802778 --> 00:12:16,205.98802778 Regular water. 217 00:12:16,685.98802778 --> 00:12:16,715.98802778 Okay. 218 00:12:16,715.98802778 --> 00:12:20,195.98802778 Sometimes, especially when, if I'm eating something, I wanna just drink water. 219 00:12:20,200.98802778 --> 00:12:23,585.98802778 I don't want something in the water, so you don't need all of flavor. 220 00:12:23,665.98802778 --> 00:12:24,865.98802778 And that worked out really well. 221 00:12:24,915.98802778 --> 00:12:33,645.98802778 And then I have pickle juice shots, these little bottles that have this really salty, pickled juice with vinegar and salt And when I was starting to feel my trice. 222 00:12:33,800.98802778 --> 00:12:36,780.98802778 It's cramping up a little bit, so I just took a pickle a few shots. 223 00:12:37,250.98802778 --> 00:12:49,196.92702778 And that helps me a lot, because I've had some mohawkeye races where I was totally cramping up, my abs were cramping, my arms, my forearms, like, where my fingers were just like this, and I had to push them back open. 224 00:12:49,197.02702778 --> 00:12:54,347.02702778 I've had really bad cramping before, but today, yeah, the pickle juice works for me like that. 225 00:12:54,347.02702778 --> 00:12:54,417.02702778 Yeah. 226 00:12:54,627.02702778 --> 00:12:56,231.92702778 Makes it go away, and then, just, yeah. 227 00:12:56,522.02702778 --> 00:12:58,452.02702778 Having a lot of salt and electrolytes. 228 00:12:58,452.02702778 --> 00:13:00,571.92702778 Yeah, that's important. 229 00:13:00,572.02702778 --> 00:13:08,172.02702778 So you never had any, before you never had the pickle juice, like nobody really used that before, but pickle juice was always around, right? Yeah. 230 00:13:08,172.02702778 --> 00:13:08,841.92702778 Yeah. 231 00:13:08,842.02702778 --> 00:13:09,82.02652778 Yeah. 232 00:13:09,82.02652778 --> 00:13:09,622.02652778 It's crazy. 233 00:13:09,622.02652778 --> 00:13:12,732.02552778 Oh, and then it's like a pretty common remedy. 234 00:13:12,782.02552778 --> 00:13:16,682.02652778 When I was studying it, like I just looked up online and what do people do with like cramp and stuff. 235 00:13:17,162.02652778 --> 00:13:24,872.02652778 And yeah, pickle juice is one of those things, like when people cramp at night, they drink pickle juice and it goes away, and then, so I tried it and it seems to work pretty well, awesome. 236 00:13:24,952.02652778 --> 00:13:25,922.02552778 I don't know exactly what it is. 237 00:13:25,922.02652778 --> 00:13:30,62.02652778 I think part of it is the salt and, but part of it is the vinegar too, like that bitterness. 238 00:13:30,62.12652778 --> 00:13:30,358.08652778 Yeah. 239 00:13:30,358.08652778 --> 00:13:34,780.10652778 For some, it shocks your body into stopping the cramping, and you just follow it up with some water. 240 00:13:34,800.10652778 --> 00:13:35,20.10602778 Yeah. 241 00:13:35,20.10602778 --> 00:13:35,800.10652778 And wash it down and. 242 00:13:35,800.20652778 --> 00:13:35,995.00652778 Awesome. 243 00:13:35,995.20652778 --> 00:13:37,495.00652778 Yeah. 244 00:13:37,495.10652778 --> 00:13:44,995.00652778 And then for nutrition, I got actually, I got these squeezed baby food, squeezed by things. 245 00:13:44,995.10652778 --> 00:13:46,285.10652778 Like organic baby food. 246 00:13:46,285.10652778 --> 00:13:48,675.10652778 And that was actually the best ones. 247 00:13:48,675.10652778 --> 00:13:53,615.10652778 I like, I also had like gels and and some shot blocks type of thing. 248 00:13:54,255.10652778 --> 00:13:58,615.10752778 But next year, I think I'm only going to take those baby food things. 249 00:13:58,615.20752778 --> 00:14:03,565.10752778 Cause they got like 70, 80 calories and you just squeeze it in your mouth. 250 00:14:03,850.10752778 --> 00:14:06,90.10752778 And it goes on easy and digests quickly. 251 00:14:06,130.10752778 --> 00:14:09,790.10752778 So that, yeah, you look at the nutrition and stuff on those back of this stuff. 252 00:14:09,790.10752778 --> 00:14:12,690.10652778 And it's not bad because it's for children, right? Infants and stuff. 253 00:14:12,800.10752778 --> 00:14:13,90.10752778 Yeah. 254 00:14:13,90.10752778 --> 00:14:14,500.10752778 You're going, it's gotta be good. 255 00:14:14,650.10752778 --> 00:14:15,0.10752778 Yeah. 256 00:14:15,640.10652778 --> 00:14:21,200.10652778 There's some preservatives in there, but yeah, that's, you don't want something that you have to refrigerate, right? So yeah, nothing crazy. 257 00:14:21,230.10552778 --> 00:14:21,980.10652778 So that was good. 258 00:14:21,980.20652778 --> 00:14:22,340.20652778 Yeah. 259 00:14:22,880.20652778 --> 00:14:25,240.20652778 I don't know if I would do anything else different. 260 00:14:25,480.20652778 --> 00:14:30,100.20652778 Like in years past I had Poi, like I used Poi in those little squeeze bottles. 261 00:14:30,400.20652778 --> 00:14:33,350.20652778 That actually works really well too because it's not too sugary. 262 00:14:33,350.30652778 --> 00:14:36,610.20652778 And it gives you like the calories and digests easily. 263 00:14:37,90.20652778 --> 00:14:39,320.20552778 And then sometimes I would mix salt into the Poi. 264 00:14:39,320.30552778 --> 00:14:44,495.10652778 But then this year at Whole Foods, when I went to Whole Foods on Saturday, they didn't have Poi. 265 00:14:44,955.20652778 --> 00:14:47,175.20652778 So I bought the baby food. 266 00:14:47,345.20652778 --> 00:14:48,985.20652778 Actually the baby food worked out really well. 267 00:14:49,555.20652778 --> 00:14:52,555.20652778 Okay anything else? I think we covered a lot. 268 00:14:52,555.20652778 --> 00:14:53,595.20652778 Yeah congratulations. 269 00:14:53,635.20652778 --> 00:15:02,25.20552778 To your knowledge, you are the only participant that did last week's foil division as well as this week's stand up paddle. 270 00:15:02,740.20652778 --> 00:15:03,790.20652778 I would say like manually. 271 00:15:04,140.20652778 --> 00:15:13,20.20652778 How does that feel or you know of anybody else that did it? I don't know they told me when I signed up there was one other person that signed up for both. 272 00:15:13,760.20652778 --> 00:15:16,180.20552778 I'm not sure though who it is or how they finished or. 273 00:15:16,575.20552778 --> 00:15:20,885.20552778 But because this morning they told me, yeah, I think you're the only one who's doing both, who did both races. 274 00:15:20,905.20552778 --> 00:15:23,845.20452778 And I thought it would be more people like that. 275 00:15:24,25.20452778 --> 00:15:34,455.20452778 Now that they split it between foiling and regular Santa paddling and prom paddling, that there would be some guys that would want to do both, because there's some guys like James Casey, who's won this race before. 276 00:15:35,430.20552778 --> 00:15:43,469.26916414 And he's a really good stand up foiler, too, but I guess it's like a big time and money commitment, too, to come here and spend more time. 277 00:15:43,469.26916414 --> 00:15:44,707.39643687 Yeah, Kai Lenny. 278 00:15:44,707.39643687 --> 00:15:50,577.39593687 There would be a lot of guys that would be way more competitive than I am, but it seems like they're all really focused on the foiling now. 279 00:15:50,577.39593687 --> 00:15:51,447.39543687 Everything else, yeah. 280 00:15:52,97.39643687 --> 00:16:00,447.29593687 And stand up paddling is playing second fiddle now for, yeah, it's just it's crazy how it's become really a small sport again. 281 00:16:00,447.29593687 --> 00:16:00,637.19643687 Yeah. 282 00:16:00,637.39643687 --> 00:16:10,277.29643687 a lot of participants, but I think it's still really fun, and like training for standup paddling is way more demanding. 283 00:16:10,277.29643687 --> 00:16:21,577.29743687 Like I did a lot of the long paddles and that endurance training also helped me with winging, when you wing, even if you go on the waves for two hours, Not as taxing on your body and your mind and everything. 284 00:16:21,577.29743687 --> 00:16:24,797.29743687 Yeah it's not like training on a stand up paddle board for four or five hours. 285 00:16:24,797.29743687 --> 00:16:25,417.29743687 It's different. 286 00:16:25,697.29643687 --> 00:16:30,227.29643687 So I felt like that, the conditioning was really good also for my wing foot. 287 00:16:30,227.29643687 --> 00:16:30,447.29643687 Yeah. 288 00:16:30,707.29643687 --> 00:16:32,897.29543687 Kept my focus and Awesome. 289 00:16:32,987.29643687 --> 00:16:35,77.29593687 Congratulations on finishing on both sides. 290 00:16:35,77.39593687 --> 00:16:35,431.6245083 Thanks, Dick. 291 00:16:35,431.6245083 --> 00:16:36,317.19593687 Yeah, thanks for coming down. 292 00:16:36,317.29593687 --> 00:16:37,207.29593687 Yeah, awesome, man. 293 00:16:37,487.29593687 --> 00:16:39,667.29593687 And thanks Lucas for getting some drone footage too. 294 00:16:39,667.29593687 --> 00:16:41,117.2959369 Aloha and thanks for watching. 295 00:16:41,127.2959369 --> 00:16:41,747.2959369 Thank you.
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