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May 14, 2025 21 mins

In this episode of The CIRS Group Podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dig into which binders ACTUALLY WORK for Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) patients. They explain what binders are, how they help in detoxifying the body, and why they are essential for those with a genetic predisposition to CIRS. The episode details the intricacies of the Shoemaker protocol, the various types of binders such as cholestyramine, Welchol, and MycoBind, and their effectiveness. They'll also talk about generic binders like charcoal and clay and why they may not work to successfully treat illness from biotoxins. They also discuss how to properly take binders, manage side effects, and track progress through symptom tracking and blood work analysis. This episode aims to provide valuable insights and practical advice for CIRS patients while stressing the importance of consulting with a certified practitioner for appropriate medical guidance. Join the hosts in demystifying the world of binders and learn how to effectively manage your health journey with CIRS.

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction to the CIRS Group Podcast 00:50 What are binders? 03:49 Why Shoemaker endorsed binders are best 04:53 How to choose the Right Binder 10:34 How to Take Binders Effectively 15:52 Tracking Progress and Final Thoughts

HELPFUL LINKS Research showing -azoles potentially causing brain atrophy: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/TDM_metabolism_9_24_2020.pdf https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/MRA_2_25_21_FINAL_Health_Risk_Assessments_from_Water_Damaged_Buildings_2_.pdf https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/BIBLIO_FUNGICIDE_RESISTANCE_MECHANSIMS_01_09_10.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10024029/

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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