Episode 106 - The Flying Scotsman (2006) - The Culture Swally

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I think I something sexy that WCF thing they could stand for there but I wasn't quick enough.
Yeah I'm good. Oh yeah. I'm all good. How are you? Yeah all good. Thank you all good. It's been
it feels weird. It's been so long since we've recorded it because obviously we banked Doomsday
before we met up in Scotland. It's been like three and a half weeks because we're also recording

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this half a week later than we normally would. So yeah it's been ages but it's all good.
Yeah we had a wonderful time in Scotland didn't we? We had a cracking time the weather apart from
the Tuesday when we arrived in the Ubit Wet which was fine. Well it was fine for me because obviously
I live in the desert and getting a little bit of like comparatively fresher here and we'd

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be better rene. It's quite nice for the way we change but the weather stayed nice in dry
photos and the Wednesday and the Thursday. It had a good time at the manic and the and the
and suede. Before are we are we day in the lashing glass go meeting some weird and wonderful
characters? Yeah we certainly did. We had a lovely time got to meet the wonderful Ali from
Scottswayay podcast. Yeah yeah yeah. So he was when I said weird and wonderful he was like the

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wonderful part of that. Oh yes yeah there was some weird characters we met. It really struck me
coming back down stamina stuff like the fact that you know every pub we went into in class go basically
somebody spoke to us and yeah. I had a strange connection with this random woman who turned out I
knew her ex-husband that actually worked with him in Dubai. Absolutely bizarre. Yeah and Andy's a

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world renowned golf coach as well. So it was him. That's right it was it was just mental. I'd forgotten
those details of that conversation and remember it was a little difficult to extract ourselves
but when I was talking to her new fella it turned out him and I you a couple of the same people
including including the brother of somebody who got who mysteriously fell out of a window about 20

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years ago in Glasgow which was I had to thought about for a long time but yeah I mean they were
they they were nice. It's a little difficult to extract ourselves they had they had a nice little
dog didn't they what can a dog sit again a little bass it or something. So bass it out yeah
she was shy but she was lovely. Yeah yeah yeah she was but yeah it was difficult to as you say extract
ourselves because obviously they wouldn't stop talking because they were cooked off their tent.

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But actually we cooked off their tents and apparently on a holiday get home to put the dinner on
which I don't know if I don't know if that's some kind of new drug terminology. It's got up the
road to put the dinner on and then do the washing up. We also had a revelation when we were in
Scotland as well Greg. I got your little birthday present didn't I? It's the best birthday present

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a boy could ask for and it is official ladies and gentlemen I'm just going to let the big man
say it himself. Hello Greg it's James Cosmo here a patron saint of the culture swally.
Swally and there we have it. James Cosmo officially the patron saint of the culture swally.
Yeah Boba will be coming back to James Cosmo just after the news to find out. Oh fantastic

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about his four year-old tradition. I watched something interesting the other day which is quite
Scotland the Jason I think that documentary film by Jonny Owen who's quite a well-known sports
documentary filmmaker and it's called Three Kings and it's about Matt Busby, Jocestean and
Billshankley obviously all three coming from quite similar Scottish backgrounds,

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mining towns and stuff and it's just about their careers. It's really really good because it shows
there's actually a little bit of footage of the three of them playing sort of post-war.
The thing that really made the thing that really interested me on a with an interview with Matt
Busby when he's quite an early interview and he's talking about their about football and he said

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that Scotland actually invented the passing game of football because before that in England it was
just sort of kick and run you know they can have big sides and it was you know like when you see
like some there's a town in the west middens called Aveston and they have like the Aveston ball game
once a year and basically you can find footage of it on YouTube basically like the whole town

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seems to come out with a big heavy ball and they just like throw it up and down and beat the absolute
living shit out of each other. Right honestly I'm not making it up you know if anybody's super keen
choppers at DM and Instagram and they'll they'll pick copy and paste some YouTube links if you want

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to see it but like the football sort of started off a bit like that before it evolved into what it is
now and I arguably all three of these managers played a massive part in how football is played
now in its way it's 20s but yeah but I found it interesting when Busby was saying that it's actually
the Scots who invented the passing game short passes you know to keep the ball moving, getting into

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positions and things and we were playing that kind of football when the English were still playing
their huge side kick and run style of football so there we go. Wonderful. Something's another thing
that we invented. Just making life better for everybody for centuries the Scots. Yeah so we have been.
I actually had a news article I rejected this week that was about the unknown Scottish inventions

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or like lesser known. All right. But I'll try I'm just I've opened it up now there was a couple
that I was like oh wow and in fact did you know that Scotland gave the world the first pedal
bicycle is that quite relevant to what we're going to be talking about. Well very relevant I would say
maybe I should have done that in the facts machine was also a Scottish invention right. Fingerprint

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analysis was a Scottish invention as well of course the dollar is sheep you know it's a cloning
this of course is no shock it was an Edinburgh based physician who invented the hypothermic needle
and still very well used in Edinburgh to this day. And he is what I never knew. Do you know the
a Scott invented bovral? Bovral is Scottish. Yeah. It came the makes sense. Yeah it does.

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Big steam and hot mug a gravy at the football. Yeah that's a good point actually. Yeah.
Anyway well that is a new story that I rejected however I do have a couple of new stories that
I have selected for this episode so shall we have a look at what's been happening in Scotland over
the last couple of weeks Greg? Curial a jingle. Hello this is the Outdoor Heavard East for

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Acoustic Converation and here is what's been going on in the new. Okay Greg what have you seen
first this week that you'd like to share with me and our lovely listeners. So my first story
comes from the daily record I'm on the 24th of June and the headline well I would say
that the story is the a headline writers wet dream. So the headline reads cow dash d'inbith chaos

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as heard halx traffic on Scotts Towns high street. The farm animals were seen roaming the streets
of cow d'inbith on Tuesday with stunned locals sharing footage of the incident on social media.
As the cattle took to the town cows of vehicles were seen being held up on either side of the road
but a video footage shows the cows roaming through the streets of the 5th town as they appeared to

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have escaped from a nearby farm I think that's probably exactly what's happened there. Yeah
writing on facebook stunned local Louise Scott said they've been going crazy all morning
the poor things I heard them making some noise. A statement from the temple hall cafe perhaps
from their PR department heard them from the football grounds they're pretty harmless I hope they're

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a good day out I'm surprised there were three of them who said there's more in the picture.
Janie Mackey said they were munching away on the grass for a wee while.
Not a lot happens in cow d'inbith evidently. Amy Nile said we were held up for some time in the
main street because of them but they look so cute and happy the delay was worth it. There's a lot

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more than three cows it's about I would say without counting them individually but 12 it comes
after a separate herd of cows caused mayhem for railway commuters and Monday morning about 12
of the animals were seen blocking a set of tracks on the Edinburgh to Glasgow line near Lindsay.
An image shared by network rail showed the black and white animals looking cosy at the side of

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the track with no apparent sign of them moving on the network rail statement said sorry if you're
being delayed on the Edinburgh to Glasgow main line this morning near Lindsay were dealing with a
herd of 12 cows who found their way onto the railway. So yeah so cow d'inbith under a mini siege
I wonder if Jerry Scott's going to write a wee song about it what do you think?

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Yeah a siege of cows that's um I should have had that in the last episode for a doonstay
cos it's obviously that scene with all the cows. Yeah have you ever encountered a runaway
cows or anything? No I mean I have had the experiences with cows that um yeah I can think of one.

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I can think of a couple um but um yeah I remember I've been mentioned this in the podcast before but
my old flatmate Dale when him and I were at school before we were flatmates he lived in the countryside
and if I went out to stay with him for a week and whatever you know it would be roaming about

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and we could have cut through the odd field of cows and the big big big because of inquisitive
they'll sort of hurry over to get closer look at you which it's about a nerve in I mean like
if you stand your ground or you make any sign that you're going to move towards them they tend to
they stop and there's the bulls of course and then you're fucked but yeah if they're lady cows
they'll tend to stop and and and and sort of turn back and fright but yeah when they're sort of

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bearing down on you just even though you know that the worst thing they can do is trample you which is
pretty fucking bad actually coming up really fast yeah trample by a herd of cows you know I remember
this was an upset kid so I can't remember the full story probably wouldn't be able to find it online
but I asked him only about eight or nine or something at the time and it made the front page that

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even expressed our posting it was called Jim's Jim the post he got rammed by a bull a bull had
escaped a field or something and was roaming around I don't know where I can't remember exactly
where but I mean he's our post he so he must have been he you know a post he has an area yeah so

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must have been around the hazelhead kind of wooden area and yeah this bull it was like not like a
close and just fucking went for him and rammed in good and people he was he was off work for about
three months or something but but yeah it's the front page of the evening express okay yeah
we'd fancy that much when you said you got rammed by a bull I thought you meant something else there

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no no the off work for a little good few months of time he got charged by a bull I should have
said maybe would have been the better that's probably the the better terminology well yeah so
that's the that's the errant cows of cowden beef okay so that's my first story in this episode of
the culture swalley what's your first story this week all right my first story comes from the Scottish

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Sun this week Greg and the headline is Royal Blunder one of Scotland's best love museums left
visitors disappointed after a bizarre mixup over its name a woman known only as M-a-m M-a-m left a
three star review on TripAdvisor following a trip to the Burrill collection in Glasgow she made a

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round trip of over 400 miles from our home in Whitby Yorkshire to visit what she had hoped was a
museum dedicated to Royal Butler Paul Burrill and the late Princess Diana no she never surely not
the renowned visitors attraction named after its founders Sir William Burrill and Lady Constance
butl houses a 9000 piece art collection spanning the world and renowned after a five year six six to

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eight point two billion refit in 2022 but the bizarre review showed the haphazard visitors were
unaware the post said of which you from Yorkshire came because we wanted to see the collection of
letters Claude's household items and jewelry the late Princess Diana gave and left her butler
and rock Paul Burrill we're big Diana fans and we were looking forward to an afternoon of Royal

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magic she must be taking this to make just to make others aware this museum has nothing to do with
Lady Di and it is not Paul Burrill's collection of her items it's a lovely event you though the tea
was nice but they need to clarify that it does it to see with Paul Burrill Princess Diana or the royal

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family so others aren't disappointed like we were mr. Burrill 66 became a footman for Queen Elizabeth
the second when he was just 18 he then became a butler for Charles Diana in 1987 and the late
Princess of Wales described him as her rock during the hard times it's not the first time that visitors
have been left disappointed by Scottish tourist attractions we told recently that tourists left a

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one star review for Loch Ness complaining that they failed to spot the monster the man no only is
Ron said what a disappointment we traveled 400 miles from Greenspeit to see the Loch Ness monster
and it didn't show up don't go if you're wanting to see it because you'll end up betterly
disappointed like we were meanwhile a reviewer from Coatbridge Lanarkshire complained about a lack of

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toilets and shops at the summit of Ben Nevis he also hit a but he also hit out about snow on top of
the mountain adding won't be long till someone has an accident it hits out a bemuse traveler Henry
from Stockholm said that the top of the hill was just a pile of rocks and he was left stunned that

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there wasn't a pub at the summit he added by girlfriend vomited five times on the way up because
of exhaustion and feet of heights we lost several hours of our lives claiming this hill for nothing
no views of anything since the summit is just in constant fog the top is literally a pile of rocks
and an emergency shelter and there is no pub on the top one visitor to Edinburgh Castle told

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visitors to avoid the monument there one star review said it looks good from outside but once you're
inside you quickly question your choice of being there i tell you avoid it so that review has to
be a piss take for the bottle collection it has to be i was interested that the one achievement
that the son left off of Paul buttles list of achievements is that he wants to get a kangaroos

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knob on who wants to get am i slippery to get me over here in 2004 i knew you were going to say something
about this celebrity but i didn't know it was going to be the kangaroos knob did you know on bednevis
not not i'm saying not that long ago maybe like sort of 20 years or so ago some people found that
piano near the summit of bednevis and it was never missed it was never missed it again with but then

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some people remembered that a strong a kind of strong man in an attempted feat of endurance
pushed a piano to the top of bednevis like maybe back maybe pre-war or something like that
and apparently he made it to the top as far as they could go with it and then when they

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faced with the prospect of taking it back down he was like fuck that just left it comes back
and we get a think it sort of sort of a slipped out of memory i think then somebody kind of found
local paper or maybe even like the national paper or something of the time like some information
about it surely it'd be easier to take it down than it would be taken up he's done the hard work

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i mean just push it down surely yeah it's going to be a tune and all that into it it's a
fucking point it's exactly yeah take it longer take longer to tune it then i'm actually getting
more gong freemen round so apparently can tune a piano in two minutes and teach a
a fucking hardest fuckation guy how to do it in two minutes as well
you have to go back to our pv7 to the culture swell it don't we're talking about

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yes i can't remember the number of the episode but that's unleashed um yeah we did that this year
didn't we so it was yeah yeah it was actually months ago yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah so that is the
the bottle collection so that is a warning if anyone was wanting to go to the bottle collection
it's nothing to do with Paul buttle and yeah clean of hearts lady die all the reds is price this

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works of art you know that's all that so yeah so that is it's quite boring quite boring really i was
hoping to see like a hanky or a letter that died written to Paul buttle calling her calling him
her rock yeah yeah not the dween johnson just to make that clear let's write it let's see yeah
yeah it's not like that pub in the collection though um but they did they serve a lovely

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cup of tea so yeah so that is my first story this week Greg what else have you seen from Scotland
well from one disappointed tourists to another this comes from the day the record again on the 22nd
of July and the headline reads tourists in Scotland ghosted by henge date after getting matching tattoos
cori-hase was backpacking across europe when she matched with jack online and they met up in edembra

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so the story begins a singleton got matching tattoos with a bloke on the first henge date only for
him to ghost her for coming on too strong when she took a plane for a second date uh cori-hase was
backpacking across europe when she matched with jack online and they met up in edembra with the
pair opting to get the exact same lemon tattoo within 24 hours of meeting the pair had an instant

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connection and decided to meet again after the 22 year old completeter tripped down to england however
after planning a romantic getaway and forking out 140 pounds to fly from Birmingham back to edembra
the retail assistant was left in a panic when she was ghosted just two days before the flight despite
not knowing anyone else in scotland cori decided to fly back on the 20th of june anyway and heard

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absolutely nothing from jack who later blamed her for coming on too strong the 22 year old managed
to make the best out of an awful situation by befriending two other girls in her hostel who she
convinced to get the same lemon tattoo so they could change the story um talking to tick tock

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caught a shared eclip explaining the situation captioned i cannot believe this happened before
showing the lemon tattoo and putting her hand over her mouth in disbelief another clip shows the
solo travel they're standing in an edembra hostel captioned currently in a hostel 17 000 kilometers
away from home with nothing but the clothes in my back and this bag still vibing though

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the vtid assistant who's from melburn in washdraelia was disappointed that her four day
were a windrow man's with jack came to an abrupt end as they had planned to visit the
scotish highland together highlands together while jack blamed initially blamed family issues
on canceling their plans and ghosting her caught a believes he was just making that up because he

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later admitted that she had come on too strong um however she believes spending four days in
scotland again without him and meeting new people was empowering and says that jack would never
forget her now because of the tattoo kora said i'm going to try and do an Australian accent so
just be uncomfortable for the listeners and you and in barrison for me uh yeah it certainly

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won't be as good as your yorkshire uh accent uh kora said we had an instant connection i got along
where with them and we hit it off when i got to b- when i got to bimmering him i thought it could
it could turn into something we started talking about tattoos at the bar and one of his friends
was joking and saying that jack would never get one but he said that he would i said i get one too

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and it became a joke of the night that we'd get one the next day next day came rounds and we went
to a tattoo parlor and got matching tattoos of a little lemon there was no reason but we both
agreed on the lemon and got the exact same tattoo at the same time together i messaged them saying
i had some spare time while traveling and that i could come back he said yeah come back i'd love to
see you again we spent the next few days planning what we're going to do we'll go to drive up to the

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highlands in Scotland so we both agreed that i would come back a book flight so during this whole
thing we were in constant communication i sent in my flight details and made sure the days worked
and everything throughout the whole time we're still messaging and things were going well however
the singleton claimed look here a lot of that word in these days singleton do the singleton claims

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that jack cancelled their plans just two days before her flight blaming it on family issues
before ghosting her completely and leaving kora in a panic with no accommodation books
kora said it got to two days before i fly out and his messages started getting less frequent
just randomly no issue had happened i sort of had an inkling then i got a message saying hi and

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really sorry family things have come up i can't do this weekend i hope you get home safe he knew i
wasn't going back to australia for a month but he didn't try and move the dates i believe he made it
up because he later apologised and said he felt that i'd come on too strong and he didn't want to get
hurt because i live in australia who would make up a mind so i'd just be honest i don't quite know

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how to tell kora this by any man any 22 you know boy who's trying to have sex with a girl
and is also has a girlfriend this was our first and last contact after the ghosting which started
on the 19th of june the day before i flew and continued the whole time i was in edinburgh i was in real

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panic mode i didn't know what to do and if i should go back and just there and just not see him
but it's way too you'll decide to go anyway she shared a hostel room with two girls for four nights
who also got matching lemon tattoos with her so there it's got a nice ending there i think she's
made two new friends she got quite it's quite a nice bit tattoo that little lemon tattoo it's quite

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cute you know maybe for a quite cute for a girl but i think jack had to get it really they could
get quite so it's the boys but anyway i think i just started taking it well i would say a little
bit naive perhaps she's made the the best of it in terms of it sounds like she had a good time she's
got other two other friends to get the lemon tattoo as well and you know jacks yeah he's met

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somebody else on hench probably whilst she's been away or get back with his girlfriend
yes and now he's got a lemon tattoo to always remind her that's quite unfortunate jack because
that instantly makes me think of lemon party which yeah well yeah i know i thought about that for a
long time yeah that's been a while but i've popped into my head for some reason well well it caught

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us change the story nicky she's changed the story so yeah good for her yeah she has no good for her
and yeah jack well shit yeah you know at least yeah i can understand if she lived in the same city or
something and kind of thing but she's making the effort to fly back and you know you know it's
just gonna be for a few days and then you're never gonna see her again anyway so we know just

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fill your bits for a few days and then hopefully she goes but yeah something else has happened there
with jack fill your bits for a few days what's gonna say and the thing is i end up as a picture of jack
and kora in the tattoo parlor holding up their new tattoos and they've had them done in their in
their kind of inner bicep like where you've got you've got a tattoo in your inner bicep they got
they got the one in the same place and they're holding up their inner biceps together but jack's

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face has been blurbout to protect to protect his i assume to protect his anonymity however
Scotland is not a very big country the daily record is probably the best selling tabloid newspaper in
Scotland he's got quite a distinct tattoo of a lemon and he's in her bicep
i don't i don't think yeah i don't think it would take anybody long who knows him to know that he is

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the jack that ghosted kora on hench you know yeah it's a very good point actually yeah i don't think
there's many other 22 year old men kicking around until have a lemon party tattoo and they're
kids if you don't know what lemon party is don't google it's yeah it'll scar you for life well if you're an

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elder layman anyway young men treat women with respect because i've got two i've got two daughters
who are in their teens who will soon be moving into leaving home and going out into the world and if i
find out anybody is tricked my daughter into getting a tattoo and then go see the revenge i will
fucking hunt you down and kick your fucking teeth in it sounds like it was kora's idea though

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doesn't matter okay doesn't matter okay if kora's if kora's dad was any type of man he'd be in the
first plane from Australia he'd be trawling the bars of edembro looking for this young guy with
a little lemon tattoo and he's in her bicep to ask him who the fuck he thinks he is
okay ballad point i have no daughter so i i i i i don't know oh imagine your little dog bobby

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was tricked by a lady dog in the gett the better at the park the really nice time running around the
park together they really hit it off they decide the the joke all day about getting matched in tattoos
right the next day they go to the dog tattoo parlor they get matched in tattoos they make plans
to meet up again and then the day before bobby gets a call saying yeah coming on too strong you'd

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be and bobby's it will hurt to be broken you'd be fucking furious yeah we're right you're right
but then i would just take him to the dog park and he'd meet another yes i could say another bitch
but um he was just you know you know me another young lady and yeah yeah it's not easy fine it's not
easy being a pain no i'm sure it's not anyway that's my second story this week and a little bit of

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nonsense tagged on at the end just for a good measure what's your what's your next story this week
so my next story is a bit of a non-story but the reason i've picked it is because this is kind of
the the stories we envisaged when we came up with the suali as like how the fuck is this made the
newspaper but it also has a belted of a quote that i wanted to basically i just wanted to say this

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quote so that's why i'm saying it so this is from edembre alive this week and the headline is
edembre gregg's customer stumped on arriving to find surprising note on door and edembre gregg's
customer was left stumped after noticing his local store was suddenly closed gregg's in
Davidson mains has told customers that the store is temporarily shut with a paper sign on the door

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one local was heading up there for lunch when he noticed the sign and had to head home
disappointed and sausage rollless he told edembre alive he was planning on getting a snack with his
son on friday afternoon but he was gutted when he saw the shop was closed he said he had to
totally rethink the lunch plan for himself and his toddler the resident said i headed doing a

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daily mains for my sausage roll with a burn and i was gutted when i got to the doors the weman loves
a sausage roll with some beans on a friday but now i'm having to have a rethink it's a field dilemma
it's gonna have to be scrambled egg beans and toast or pancakes for lunch it's left me stumped

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the note is stuck to the front door apologize to customers and directed them to their next nearest
branch which is Scotland it's probably two streets away the next cricks it's probably close to
his house the one they went to sign on the door said we're sorry we've had to temporarily close
the shop will be back soon don't worry our ovens are still baking at pennywell and bosswell

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gregg's have been contacted for a comment that's it that's it but how the fuck is this made to
newspaper some guy can get a sausage roll and i just like oh i've had to totally rethink it's
gonna have to be scrambled egg beans and toast for lunch catch got the supermarket and get something else
now yeah i'm cheeky go and get a frozen sausage roll or something or just go to the supermarket

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and get a sausage roll from the bakers yeah that's bizarre and it didn't even think though since
we've been doing the culture suhally which is it's i think we're all i think we're just past four
years now and we've been doing that i think we've had more stories about bakeries and public masturbation
and anything else yeah there's been a lot of bakery stories but that is i mean a baker is a

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staple hey Henry how you doing is a staple of of Scottish society though i mean look at how many
bakeries there was i was even quite tempted when we stayed in that air being being leaked there was a
baker's on the corner and you were like that's like a fucking manky baker's but i was quite intrigued by it
yeah it looks a wee bit sketchy though like i saw like his cake selection when we're walking past one

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day it looks a wee bit and they're great yeah but yeah you're right i think him bakers and public
masturbation um about that's a good point right because i've explained the podcast to a few people
over the let's say the last year or so and when i say that we do Scottish news stories but i say
we don't cover serious like politics or anything it's funny news stories yeah i always have like three

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that i go to which is usually i like about a woman that got the wrong sauce in her kebab or
two 80 year old woman who chase a robber out that i screenshot with pool cues and a chair
and a guy that caught a just eat delivery driver wankin and discard it thank
that's my three go to's that i usually reference what would you reference as a the kind of

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new stories we cover basically what you just said bakers and wankin the safe for the porn of course
yeah that's your favourite isn't it my favourite yeah the lady who got trapped in her house by a sofa
that she had delivered and remember that one all of the computers as well i think and then a third one
probably the jobee on the frozen food box in Iceland that is one of my favourites but i never

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know how to describe to someone i'm speaking to you oh there was a story about shitting the freezer
in Iceland but that is one of the funniest stories that i think we've covered as well yeah it's so good
about it oh yeah anyway so that is the dilemma of the greggs being closed but yeah i hope the wee man
got his sausage roll or his scrambled eggs let me see this on tools and so have you seen anything else

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this week gregg i haven't but i do have something to talk about so last friday because we recorded
this on 30th first of july last friday saw the opening of the paris olympics the 20th
wet of four paris summer olympics and our patriot they are a four mentions or earlier mentioned

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patron saint of the swallienic he might not know the patiensvane patron saint ward james cause move
dumbarton loves the olympics he is olympics that um we all we all we all we make sure that his agent
uh keeps his olympic fortnight free every year so he can enjoy all the sport on the bbc uh loves

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it especially when they're in europe because it means that times work out well for them when he's
a home in dumbart and watching it his favourite events perhaps unsurprisingly are all the contact sports
boxing judo taekwondo he's secretly a fan of the rhythmic uh gymnastics but he watch his lap and
he's phone in the shed at the bottom of the garden and for as long as any of these pals can remember

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he's held the cosmollympics because he's got a decent sized garden about a quarter of an acre
he always plies on the day of the opening ceremony so he has to have events on the friday afternoon
then he brings the tele out into the garden using the big extension so everybody can watch the
ceremony with a few cans becards for the women. wifi has been a god-send for cosmol because he used

(33:47):
to fucking lose the playstrat to get a signal with the old analogue tv aerial one year mac astelol
had to stand holding it above his head for four hours ended up pushing himself had to drive home and
soaking wet sheenows but now a wee signal booster is all that's needed to get a nice crisp picture
with the tellies in the garden so obviously this year is no exception uh cosmol it can't take part

(34:08):
in all the games they could use to because he's getting on a wee bit he's not as surprised it used to be
there's only one event that he takes part in and i'm going to list the half dozen events that make up the
cosmollympics below and let's see if you can guess which one it is right so he has a 50 meter
dash because the garden's not big enough for a hundred for a hundred meters and nobody's really
nobody's really up to anything above 50 meters anyway freestyle wrestling beach volleyball

(34:32):
a ball was a hundred way a sand from the vocal builder who owes him a favor uh teams a two for the
beach volleyball touch rugby it never used to be touch it was full contact but missy's cosmol put
her foot down after bobby carlyle was knocked unconscious in 2000 by dania the nardini so now it has
to be touch rugby um boxing and then the big tug of war at the end so which event do you think is

(34:54):
cosmos favorite out of those ones i mean you say nobody to do the 50 meter dash but i bet if
got three turned up he would be fucking um liking it in 50 meters um okay for a cause yeah um sorry
what was the uh the second um one freestyle wrestling yeah that's my that that's what i reckon
cosmotakes part in very close it's actually the boxing because he was uh oh it's the boxing

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it was a key amateur box there's a young man he used to have an archery event but again missy's
cosmol she made them throw all these bows and arrows away nearly 20 years ago because of two
two incidents in 1996 uh Jake Darcy put an arrow through cosmos neighbor's window after insisting
that he could shoot an apple off a pitch day vanderson's head after eight kinds of games special

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and the final straw was in hug minate 2008 when uh tom county shot a rabbit that he claimed was
bothering missy's cosmos strawberries unfortunately for county everybody knows strawberries don't grow in
scotland in jangery and worse than that the rabbit belonged to cosmos grandkids uh don steel had let
it out the hutch after one too many cosmopolitan's which is james's trademark cocktail but instead of

(36:02):
vodka and quantro we use his white and macaque instead of and instead the clambini just to use his
bars pain apolade will be splat your drambury don don don don don just whiteted in the garden after
sharing a really skunky joint with only macaque and just started slurring something about animal rights

(36:24):
cosmobbing looking after the bunny because uh his family were away in spain for christmas that
turned out county was actually just shone off the jelly butler some skills he'd learned for a wee
guest spot he'd gotten a an upcoming episode the bbc's robin hood program with Jonas Armstrong
nobody ever nobody ever speaks about what happened between cosmobbing county afterwards but

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suffice to say county had to cancel his appearance in robin hood and his son had to come and collect his
car from in front of cosmos house next day pure cosmob was all over the west of scottland and
january the second book in front open pits at home with an identical rabbit before the grandkids
came around so i'm going to tell you the guest list for this year's cosmos olympic party uh

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top of the top of the guest list is cheeky chapay and occasional serious actor james macavoy
um is sister joy macavoy who the cosmos won't hear a bad word about maca stale of course
a redeemed martin compston who impressed cosmob with his discipline and maturity on the fear but
was still well warned at the point of receiving the invitation vora phraser who appears on our

(37:30):
our movie today who's another one of the cosmos favourites she's a lovely lassie missy's cosmob was
says jerry butler who's home for a haircut and a visit tease ma's hey sorry abridine's favorite
led head rose lezley kelly mcdonald who i was brings a really thoughtful present from missy's
cosmob david haiman david haiman's there to help cosmob with the marshalling because kestellos

(37:54):
too easily influenced slash bullied juan of ander ham uh kestellos been begging cosmob for
months to invite her along and wwe heavyweight champ drew mack entire because cosmob wants to see
what all the fuss is about and he also wants to make sure that drew is on his tug of war team
cosmob was saving himself for the box and like i said before he's planned to hold two heats

(38:15):
he's going to get mack avoids a box comston and cosmob's sailful box butler with the winners box
and each other lettled us comston though that butlers agree to let cosmob win and mack avoids
going to let comston win so cosmob can baton him in the final because cosmob is forgiveness
cosmob is forgiveness has a limit and he intends on taking the fifty quid that cosmob affects his toy

(38:36):
that door at a comston scooping so which events do you think cosmob has marked his guests for
they can compete in more than one event everybody will compete in the rug bay and the tug of war
including the cosmos themselves but you have to decide who's going to be in whose team for the
rug bay and the tug of war so starting off with the 50 meter dash who do you think cosmob has put

(38:59):
up from his guest list for the 50 meter dash four people who are the best four out of that out of
that what 50 meter dash okay um i think how many participants would there be how big is the garden
because like you know normally there'd be quite a so how many how many so how many are participants
are able to to run this event i was the track i'd say probably four four okay i think that cosmob is

(39:26):
going to you know he's a lovely gentleman who is all about equality so he's going to have two men
and two women run this race okay and i think he's going to put um james and joy mack avoid because
he likes the competition yeah definitely ride together yeah there um he's going to put Castello in it

(39:46):
just so he can laugh uh Castello coming last and he likes to punish Castello as well and i think he's
going to put uh Roselessly in it as well just to uh because you know he'd like to see her her running style
yeah yeah i think so being a fellow red hedge you know he's yeah she's obviously one of his favorites

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absolutely so who do you think it's going to get a gold medal for the 50 meter dash then
i think Roselessly is going to win it i think so i think she's got she's got grace poise and she's
quite young uh joy mack avoids not long had the baby don't know if she's if she's back up to her
sort of fighting weight yet or not all right so then the next event then is the freestyle wrestling
so who does who does cosmob want to see hit the canvas well i think i mean obviously dream i can

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tire the canvas being the canvas being an old tartan rug of missy's cosmos
and i think he's going to put Castello in which we're going to tire because he's he's just like
to punish Castello like it's it's quite an abusive relationship in a way and i think that yeah he's
going to he's going to want to see Castello again obviously there's a presume it's just a rug so

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i mean we're not speaking it's a limpic wrestling so yeah um he's going to want to see Castello
getting put in some heavy submission moves by dream i can tire for for Castello
how are they what it's just it's just supposed to help you know okay then next one then the beach
volleyball so who's spiking with their shirts off but moving up with their shirts off but who's

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playing beach volleyball i i don't know if i can answer this crap but they're getting myself
cancelled because obviously you know i i have a year on each team the beach ball is two
teams are two teams are two teams of teams of two two and two okay so he's going to go he's
going to go mix again because he's all about equality um so i think he's i i'm going to get myself

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in trouble here so badly obviously Joanna van der Ham I think he'll pair up with constant
because they're kind of probably quite similar style isn't it make a good team
constant van der ham she strikes peace being tall there's constant the we fell in it yeah but then
that's what i mean you know you got height and then constant you know so we've a weir so i think

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they'll complement each other quite well um and then i think you'll go with rose Leslie again
and probably pair her with them with maca voie as well because he's quite wee as well so i think
rose Leslie is quite she's quite tall too i think so i think so yeah or in fact you know what

(42:29):
fuck it let's put maca voie in comps together and put van der ham and Leslie together and they'll
crush them yeah because like Leslie's going to bring kit harrington with her because that's he's
our boyfriend that they the be guy from Game of Thrones and uh the spooks film um you know
everybody he's going to feel watching uh castella when haimin getting a bit hot under the collar if
rose is in our beach volleyball gear you know great i just have to tell him to to calm down um you know

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i mean haimin haimin will be six cans of kestrel deep by this point he's not rising to any occasion
he's helping uh he's helping cause me with the marshalling because uh castella proven time and time
again that he's too easily influenced that is true yeah okay so then next the next event then
both we've had the box and all right well we know what's happening at the box and

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we know everybody knows about comps them it's going to happen at the box in touch rugby so who so it's
touch rugby teams of him and people they got so say teams are four for the touch rugby who uh who's
in each team uh so cosmos not taking part in this he's only taking part in the boxing because obviously
i can keep it i put himself so he's going to pick his a team against his b team i think so he's

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going to pick butler um and he's going to put him with uh vanderham and drew mack entire and
james back of boy right and they're going to go up against macka voice scrum half there maybe
they're going to work against a lot of freezer macka stello he's marking butler and macka

(44:08):
joy macka boy and uh haman oh haman's getting to play is he yeah he's getting out he's getting
out we've run out it's every good scrum half as well probably if you still got the peace yeah
this is still fine this depends many kinds of cash toys had before it uh it's only 7th one now so
you can see him can see him beautifully in the touch playing yeah he's absolutely useless but hey

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he's at least he's taking part that's the main thing well that's a thing you know it's important to
let him take part and then so i and then obviously cosmol and missus cosmol because let's
have a war just a bit of fun they will make up the teams so cosmol's making sure that drew mack
and tires on his team and jerry butler probably going to have a couple of his favorite he's probably

(44:52):
going to be it's probably going to be cosmol uh butler and mack and tyer with joy mack avoy and mora
phraser versus everybody else oh cosmol's favorites i think that would work yeah i'd be quite
interested see that that'd be quite a good event yeah yeah yeah so yeah so yes so i'm not sure who
who you think well cosmos cosmos teams win at that obviously it's cosmol where the tug of war isn't

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actually an Olympic sport though he is but you know he what is an event that's that's what another
team event you know to make sure that everybody gets a game because he's is nothing if not inclusive
you know cosmol of course because nowadays we'll have skateboarding in the Olympic so if you think
he's gonna build a ramp on his roof for a castelo to have a go and show off his skills i mean

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castelo had suggested break dancing as um as a event in cosmol warned them that he said that again
only one thing to be getting broken when there be any sick dance moves and missus cosmos patio
the way is fucking no ways moving that heavy metal garden chair and tables so that's the that's the

(46:00):
cosmol Olympic party for another four years i think i feel like everybody there is on their best
behavior at jamesys house i mean obviously the the the the the the way you would car does David haven't
yeah they comps then if he if he wasn't behaving himself already he's gonna be spending the party
with like probably a severe concussion after cosmol absolutely the others in the box and so he's

(46:20):
not going to cause any trouble either so how many rounds do you think it goes with the cosmol
and comps and oh one like fucking because because comps is going into it thinking it's just a bit of fun
and cosmol is going into it thinking you're fucking getting it we man
so i'm giving you the i'm gonna give you the fear

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come to know literally you know you know he'll be fucking coming round five minutes later with
the smelunsel sundaese knows one thing what the fuck just happened to him and where he is
when i fucking when i deck chair in the garden and case he spews
this poor missus cosmol attempting to him i know
that's David even we've wafted a towel

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he was in a razor blade to cut his his clothes that open
do you think um with with cosmol i mean obviously um
Castello would be his corner man
i mean i mean he's a Castello's only there to hold the bucket
to hold out his hand for cosmol aspet he's mouthguard into and squirt a bit of water in his face

(47:34):
hold the bucket so he can spit into it i mean that's literally he's not the advised cosmol
in the back no situation he's layered very much in an auxiliary position
so he's um he's definitely no micky um terms of given advice or a silent
sadly yeah cosmol doesn't need anybody's advice when it comes to battle and be fanny some greener

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but i would cosmol need anyone to fight these chains cosmol is that patron saint the
culture swalley exactly so as as aspect the the cosmol empics uh trophy is probably going back
in its usual position on the cosmos mountain piece for another four years
the end of the cosmol empics um i don't think there's anyone uh

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saying or anything is there a closing ceremony no i don't think i mean the closing ceremony is just
when cosmos that's switching the garden lights on and off
when he's had enough when he's had enough everybody it might supposed to go he's bed
this ago is bed this uh is bink pink fluffy pillow which we have seen

(48:46):
exactly uh okay gets the garden gets the garden hose it
time to go my way in my bed is that seeing for you wonderful
well can't wait for the the next cosmol empics in four years
tip 2028 wait wait about do you know who's hosting the 28 of lymphics um i have no idea but i'll tell
you because i've got the Wikipedia page for the olympics up 2028 is in Los Angeles oh of

(49:13):
course i i knew that actually no you mentioned that i never know and 2032 is an australia
there you go fun fact yeah i was not 32 i'll not be going too far away as far as far as
in every way of the australia in a subit i'll be honest i have not watched one single second of the
olympics and i will not watch one single second i fucking hate the olympics mmm it's a fish really i

(49:37):
was watching yeah i was watching a lady skateboarding when i was having my sunday roast and sunday in the
in the pub that was up on and i watched the wee bit of the archery i watched a bit of the rugby
sevens and saturday when i was waiting for my family were away for a wee steak a and saturday so of course
being the only man in the house i was the first one ready so i repaired to the pub and the hotel

(49:57):
to have a pint and i was waiting for them and watched about the sevens but yeah i was i was gonna i
do that the olympics i don't mean not every event but i do quite like it i like the athletics
i think the only two things i would watch would be golf and skateboarding yeah that'd probably be the
only two i can't be arsed with the rest of it i like the boxing as well mmm don't know is someone

(50:18):
about i think is it because it's too nice too nice isn't it you want a better you want a bit of like
rivalry not like all the handshaking and the you know you're a great opponent you know someone it's not
that it's because i i kind of feel i'm not invested i just can actually it's probably best i don't see
anything like that you're about to make a case for a sport should independence them yes i was yeah

(50:43):
because i can't get behind a fucking team gb fish fuck off uh that's why i probably don't like the
olympics that much um although i probably watch it when like was my cold getting stuff was in it but
that's yeah yeah but yeah i don't know i just i don't know what it is just capy arsed with it
having watched any of it great rampant nationalism i think is what it is actually okay right let's

(51:05):
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that's dorickskateboards.com link in the description of this episode okay so it's the it's a summer of
sport we've had the euros we've got the Olympics just now we've just spoken about the cosmol Olympics

(52:55):
and this week your choice is about another Scottish sporting hero so i don't yet introduce
today's film so this there's thank you very much Greg yes so on this episode of this swally we are
looking at the 2006 British drama film the flying Scotsman based on the life and career of Scottish

(53:16):
amateur cyclist Graham Obrey directed by Douglas McKinnon the film covers the period of Obrey's
life that saw him take lose and then retake the world one hour distance record starring johnny lee
miller is obrey Laura Fraser Billy boyd and Brian cocks you had mentioned on the last episode
you mentioned you'd never seen it or yeah i've never seen it i'd never it's one of those ones

(53:41):
where i'm oh you know but in other films where you're like oh i need to watch that you know what i mean
i've probably i've probably been saying that since the film came out and i've never got around to
watching it until now and then of course it came out like 18 years ago so you know you say when it comes
almost you that must watch that and then as time goes on and more things that grab your attention come

(54:04):
out you just sort of forget about it so yeah i'd never seen it had you had you seen it before no i'd
never seen it and it's exactly the same as you it's one of those things that have been on my list
because i'm like well it's called the flying Scotsman it's about johnny you know johnny lee miller's
in it's about green obre who is a despite what i've just said about the Olympics and stuff like
of course my way of green obrey any Scottish kind of athlete or thing i'll get behind

(54:28):
Scottish and even though he's bored in England but he classifies himself as scotter so he's fine
so he counts yeah and i think the it's one of those films yeah say well johnny miller brine cocks
Laura Fraser who like you know absolutely a door Laura Fraser which is just such a wonderful actress
and again it's one of those films that i just never got round to watching and that's one of the main

(54:50):
reasons i absolutely love doing this podcast with you because it gives us an excuse to watch stuff that
i never would have watched before and that i've always been kind of meaning to so first time watching
Greg what did you think of the flying Scotsman which your initial impression do you know i really
enjoy that like i really enjoy i know the the start of the film is i don't know if the vet they

(55:13):
are very very beginning when we sort of see him from the waist down walking into the woods and then
it becomes apparent that he's about to attempt suicide with these rope this that tone of that
opening scene is it's quite different to the the rest of the film and then it does cast a wee bit
of a shadow over maybe the first two acts of the film because you know that we're going to have

(55:39):
to come back to this and see what you know what what happens and i also felt a bit guilty watching it
because don't don't really know a great deal about grey mobri and you know his achievements
were all in the early 90s you know they were this they sort of period of time that this film covers

(56:02):
and i feel like then i was being in Scotland i was 15 14 15 16 i should have been more aware of
what was going on there because this was you know like Scotland you know we haven't always had like
an abundance of sort of sporting champions you know the football team you know it's brilliant to
support them but they don't exactly bring home the fucking glory you know what i mean the rugby team

(56:27):
have kind of have had highs and lows and then you could guys they can be murray and a few other people
like that but so you know we're not sort of f*ck we're not sort of up to our chins and sort of sport
in heroes and i feel like i should have been a bit more invested in what grey mobri was attempting
with the record attempts and and the and the stuff that he was doing in the early 90s and i didn't

(56:48):
i didn't know anything about it i i had seen his bike well there's a replica of his bike in the
river side museum which is the new i was not like you know but the new transport museum in Glasgow
so i've seen his bike called faithful or a replica at least of it um but i feel like i should have
known i've got more about them then do you do you remember like when all this was happening because i mean

(57:11):
you know you're not that much younger than me good bit younger than you could not many a few years younger
than you but no i shamefully i don't recall this either and it's weird i don't i don't understand
why maybe there wasn't enough press attention about it or there must have been but it's funny because
this you know a talking point i have later on which i can just cover now yeah is about how

(57:36):
wonderful Scotland is at getting behind athletes yeah and someone that is doing something and
it strikes me as bizarre that i don't remember green will breed like at that time you know if i
think about it's like at Chris Hoy for example or you know at lysmacolgan jesus christ you know she was the
you know i remember watching the Olympics and shooting on lysmacolgan yeah she's Scottish i think

(57:59):
a Paul Lorry winning the open in 99 you know there's so many i just need to look at Andy Murray in the
last couple of um last 10 15 years Scotland we get behind our athletes and we get really behind
something and i will admit i'm probably guilty of i'm not really a big tennis fan but i would watch

(58:19):
it when Andy Murray was playing yeah because yeah you're invested yeah we do get behind our athletes
and i don't remember any of this and okay i would have been early teens so probably you know
i was in at my football and stuff but again i would have been watching like sport if
Scotland was involved so it kind of almost pains me that i don't really remember because of the time

(58:43):
and the other thing which i didn't know until i watched this film is that it's not just that he's
been a sport in hero it's a real it's a big a real pioneer for the sport as well you know wait
yeah in the early scenes of the film where we see him making his bike and he he's got a new
riding position with his elbows tucked in and they give you what if if you watch the if you watch

(59:06):
modern velodrome now that's how they all ride their bikes now you know they all ride with elbows
tucked in like in that kind of skiing position that that he pioneered so it's not just he's not just
that fucking Scottish sport in hero he's also an incredible pioneer and advocate for the sport
of cycling and velodrome racing you know so i would say i i really enjoyed this film as well i

(59:31):
really i really enjoyed it um i thought it was it was very entertaining um i think it helps the
obviously pretty much all the main cast or brilliant yeah uh johnny but it's just fantastic
or a freezer belly boy it's great in this as well and of course you know Brian Cox but i think
you really touched upon something there when you're like it opens up with your hero

(59:52):
trying to hang himself and it's a fucking dark opening and it doesn't hold up like it doesn't hold up
it doesn't let up because then you're straight into the scene of him getting fucking pissed on
by school bullies yeah yeah and you realize that as the film progresses like he's he's held that
in because he never told his woman dad who it was and he's held that in for his entire life which

(01:00:17):
i think has led to his his mental health issues later on in life yeah his depression and things
and that's one thing i would say kids don't hold stuff in fucking let it out please tell someone if
you're suffering from anything like that please i like the way that the film because they mental
health and particularly men's mental health is quite a big sort of issue at the moment you know they

(01:00:39):
sort of suicide rates in the UK among young men are higher than they've ever been you know i'd
enter your point the depiction of his sort of psychological suffering i mean i don't know anybody
who suffers from bipolar it's not something that i suffer from personally so i don't have any
kind of point of reference but it felt it felt very authentic you know the sort of the kind of

(01:01:04):
pacing the restlessness the on then the just the the sort of quiet black moods where he doesn't
appear to be peering anything you know what you look at Annie they basically they're a flasers
who plays his wife Annie's talking to him and just nothing he's just like she's just talking to
herself you know i feel and like it it's not sort of they don't they don't kind of hit you over the

(01:01:24):
head with it either apart from with that that sort of scene at the beginning but just those
can acquire moments that feel quite authentic it's very authentic in terms of he he brushes it off
in terms of you know he says to malkey one point i just get a bit down sometimes and it it's
almost that's his way of dealing with things and again you're right like even back when his

(01:01:47):
phone came out in 2006 like speaking about men's mental health wasn't that big a thing it's kind
of still unspoken about whereas now it's much more prevalent and yeah thank god it is and i think
that it's quite brave to do that my one criticism is that i would have kind of like them to go into
that a bit more because it is still it's it's touched upon but i i don't think it's fully explored in

(01:02:08):
terms of you realize that he's down i mean they don't go into the fact that he's bipolar no really
it's just that he's a bit down sometimes and a bit depressed and okay you can link it back to the
the bullying from school and of course his achievements getting taken away and stuff and he is
obviously you know the fact he goes out for a cycle when like Chris Borgman is trying to break the record

(01:02:29):
yeah that's understandable because i'd probably be the same i'd probably be like i don't know what
i watched this i'm gonna go away and do something yeah like i i often like even if i'm watching
like a big Aberdeen game for example i know it's nothing in comparison but let's say i'm watching
like a semi-final against Celtic or something i can't sit down and watch it i'll be pacing around the
room i'll be watching it right i'll be pacing around kind of like yeah try the strategy of all kind of

(01:02:54):
yeah in a way because i'm like fuck take this and so i can completely understand taking himself
out of that but i felt almost they didn't kind of go into it enough and i kind of wanted to see
more of that side like it's like well right okay so he's a bit down and then he goes to hang
himself and then you know that's it i mean in reality i mean great i think it's like three times

(01:03:16):
he's tried to kill himself yeah right over the course of his life and okay this this film only covers
a certain period of his life but i kind of wish they'd maybe spoken about that a bit more or
went into things a little bit more about the the heaviness of that but again you try to make kind
of a lighthearted film about and actually you're right this film it's more about his sporting

(01:03:41):
achievements but it is also about him and i i just wish they'd kind of maybe had a little bit more
yeah his mental health battles
real
but i think that sorry don't mean to me you jump but the reception stop
and don't really look a couple as well listen malkey i know hands told you about me

(01:04:08):
you could we should get those stairs I just get really down sometimes and
then i tell myself get a grip man and i pull myself out of it
i mean there's nothing really wrong with me you know i know what you mean i mean it's

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it feels like it was important to Douglas McKinnon who directed the film
that it kind of ends very positively you know so kind of leaping ahead you know he he had he finally
accepts that he has a mental illness and goes to seek help and stuff and you know you get that

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little closer about how he no longer cycles competitively just cycles for fun and it's like he wants
to you know he sort of triumphs over the the cycling association and stuff at the end and everything else
Stephen Berkoff has to grudgingly hand over his trophy or whatever it was that he won at the end so
it feels like they just want to he sort of needs it's like McKinnon can in needs a bit of a happy ending

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because the film starts in that really dark can away with an attempted suicide at an attempted
suicide you know seem like it was important and i guess as well you know for the audience i mean
if you be watching it i mean i i i didn't look into gray mobility until i'd watch the film i didn't
look into it beforehand because i wanted to kind of watch the film for the film's sake and i thought

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if i read about gray mobility first of all then it's going to spoil some of the things that
happen in the film so i read about it after and say you mentioned there that he you know he's
he's attempted suicide on three occasions not just the one occasion that's shown in the film he's
i think he's come out as either homosexual or bisexual now so he's separated again separated from

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and um that he's you know he was he was supposed to join a french gonna tour the france team and
that also I felt down around his ears as well and stuff like that so you know like there was a lot to
talk about but it felt like it was important to McKinnon he's probably thinking like this is an
audience's experience here you know i'm really going to put all that in the kin of postscript

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at the end better just to say you no longer cycles competitively in 2006 just cycles for fun you know
yeah and just sort of leave the audience going away feeling like they've watched a film about a man
overcome his ambitions and also his his challenges you know he's limitations i mean i think it's um
he didn't come out as gay until 2011 so obviously long after that before it came out but um he did

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say in an interview which it's just so heartbreaking he had difficulty coming to terms with sexual
orientation which obviously contributed to his earlier suicide attempts which you can see
why that would and he said i was brought up by a war generation they grew up when gay people were
put in jail yeah being homosexual was so unthinkable that you just wouldn't be gay i'd know

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anything i just closed it down and that's fucking heartbreaking to read that yeah you know and
and obviously with it being bullied when he was younger and and obviously having battling those
feelings and trying to to deal with convention fucking hell no wonder he was mentally ill and in the
way he was and and my god my heart goes out to him but fucking hell for what he achieved

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is astounding going through that so and again okay they they they couldn't go into that in the film
you know be a bit much i guess but you know i thought it was quite well handled in a way and i
did like because it was quite subtle in a way like the Douglas uh Brian Cox's character you can tell he
you kind of see something in greek and it's not until later on in the film that you kind of truly

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realize what it is because you're like what is what is this guy's gay like you know because he's helping
him out and stuff gives him his bar and he's chatting to him and that's another thing you know there's
not enough Cox in this um you kind of just comes in and vanishes for a period and then comes back
it's just almost what he's needed like i wouldn't mind the bit more Cox but it and you can clip that if
you want but in terms of the yeah you can see he sees something in greek and it's not until later you

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realize that as he says like it's the same darkness that that took his wife from him and that's a beautiful
speech where uh Brian Cox explaining his his beautiful uh wife who unfortunately committed
suicide and he says she just she had the same darkness as you she walked into the water and
he said oh good you know she could swim like a salmon and it's heartbreaking in that moment but maybe

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that helps go and realize as well at that time what he's going through and that other people are going
through the same thing anyway yeah i mean Cox it's first of all it's great hearing Cox acting his own
accent now because obviously more more recently it's been very famous for playing Logan Roy and doing
American accent and stuff and the thing that i like about the fact that Cox is in this film is if

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you look at his career in the early 2000s you know and the 80s and stuff he's doing the 90s rather he's
doing like Rob Roy big Hollywood film he's doing Braveheart big Hollywood film X-Men 2 big plays like the
the big bad X-Men 2 is just in his huge like Hollywood movies and then but he comes back to Scotland in 2006
just a couple of years later and does fairly low budget vocal set in Scotland film gets the way his

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own accent gets to spend some time in here and and the west coast of Scotland and but just brings
a real gravitas to it as well like the the the the the moment that you just described when he is
also of opening his heart to game about his ex-wife and everything else you know they kiss a lot of time

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as opposed to have passed from that happening to where we are now and you know he just he conveys the
air of a man who is still devastated by what happened but has also made his peace with it has kind of
understood it has learnt how to cope with it and you know what i mean and it's not like a big emotional
kind of misty eyed staring off into the distance again it's it's a very realistic portrayal of a man

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talking about being widowed 30 or years ago however long it's supposed to have been since since she passed
away you know and I would I would agree with you I would have been because you know wig cox is he's
in the kind of first act quite a lot you know in the second act he sort of he sort of disappears
a wee bit we want to see a little bit of him and then he's back in the third act for that perhaps

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the fucking scene of the film really that's yeah because it you know obviously it gets grim to face up
to the fact that he can't just keep ignoring his his mental health struggles anymore if he wants the
if he wants to kind of move on and have a future and everything else and the helps him understand
that he's not the only person that that that struggles from the sufferers from what he's suffering

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from you know and they and I can't imagine anybody else of cox is sort of peer group can i come
in and doing that scene the justice that he that that he did it just just extraordinary really
she killed herself then she had the same illness as you

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she couldn't take it anymore
said it was like being in the swamp alone in the darkness slowly being sucked down in
by inch the life squeezed out of her annoying that nobody was ever going to come and save her

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because nobody knew she was even there we see there were things in her life
and her childhood she would just would not talk about
i thought maybe maybe a bit more time together i could have done something
we can talk about it there's a point in talking about it have you ever talked about it before

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so why do you think there's no point no i think you're right and that's why i do love cox i love
brown cox because he does that a lot if you look through his career and i'm spoken about him so many
times but he will he'll go off and do like a few Hollywood films but he'll always come back and do
something in Scotland if you look at his i and db it's literally peppered with like three or four

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Hollywood films he's in like rise of planet the apes and then reason like the campaign which is
you know it was a big will feral zat gala fanakis film and then he's in red which is uh that was
remember that being like a big film and then he comes back to Scotland does pop servant yeah and then
then if he goes he goes back to Hollywood he's in like her he's in a few other Hollywood films

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and then he comes back and does three episodes of shetland this frank cox is just he's in like two born
films as you know as well i think yes yes yes yes yes yes yes brilliant after he did this he went and
did zodiac the the day the venture film you know it's just a year later he's off back to Hollywood

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and then fucking scubi do in the samuray sword two years later no i just but i just i really like the
fact because i get something like the seageggy but i'll do a bit more off because i thought i thought
you i thought he was brilliant in the vanishing yeah and you know he's obviously often you know
unfortunately he doesn't make brilliant films cherry but there but he obviously he obviously makes

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films that people want to see that they make money because he's always in something but be great
to see him come back and do a bit of a more thoughtful sort of role set in Scotland you know what he
yeah that's the thing he's back in Scotland all the time getting his haircut so
see these my why i see this man like why i'd agree maybe it's something to do with like these

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are attacks issues because i presume he lives in the states yeah there was something about that but
i don't see why he couldn't do some of that maybe he will like is it later on once he's not able to
do the action yeah so talk about the film i guess a little bit more um i did i like it because
it's quite a familiar kind of trope in a way it's a it's an underdog yeah um who achieved something

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you have Laura Fraser was kind of the the long suffering wife in a way you've got Brian Cox is
kind of the the guy is encouraging him got Billy Boyd is like the comedy sidekick like it has all
those kind of tropes that they're there but then has this undercurrent of depression and an
mental health battle um just just just to scream Scotland made perfectly there yeah can

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actually so i mean let's speak about Johnny Lee Miller as Cray Moebury yeah we've we've long said
probably one of the best Scottish accents from a non-Scotsman and there's the famous story of course
that in transplanting it wasn't until the rap party that Kelly McDonald realized that he wasn't actually

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Scottish yeah and it's so bizarre i can't watch like an interview or something which only the
Miller and and he'd been talking to his normal accent it just seems odd yeah it's like it's like
watching David Tennant as dr. who it's it's like that's that's not right what's what's that coming
out here of voice you know as you say like like i mean actually he mentioned in terms of Brian Cox

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it is normal accent like in succession he spoke it wasn't his proper twang yeah but it was still
Scottish but it was a bit lighter for american audiences yeah but for some reason Johnny Miller
it just he uh scotish accent just suits him so much that's what i'm used to hearing and it i guess it's
because obviously transplanting was probably my first exposure to him and i've watched that film so

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many times but to hear him as great obry he's yeah it's flawless yeah i mean and in this one as well
it's not just his accent is it is whole portrayal of the character you know it's when i was doing my
research it said that he hung out with obry for quite a while um just to sort of learn how to
psycho and his style of but apparently he did quite a lot of the psycho themselves um they got

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obry in for like the really fast bits that were a shot from a distance but apparently Johnny Miller
became quite an accomplished cyclist at the same time but yeah i mean he's he's astonishingly good
in this yeah okay because it's it's quite a quiet part as well you know he's not the call it calls for
obviously a lot of physical acting when he's on his bike but there's but just they can the scenes where

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he's on his own and he's workshop you know sort of expect you're or taking the washing machine apart
to get the bearings out for his bike or the scenes that we spoke about earlier on when he's he's
struggling with his mental health and things you know it's it's a really quiet kind of role when
from what i watched a documentary about gree mobry that was on youtube and it's um is he's

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like eerily similar you know is obviously you know he's not it can i feel like he's not playing
a sort of interpretation of gree mobry it feels like he's really striving to sort of be gree mobry
and i think i don't wonder if that's maybe part of his process because obviously you just mentioned
in train spotting he kept the accent throughout the shoot you know um i'm sure that he i'm sure he

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didn't do all the other nasty stuff that sick boy does um on screen just staying character but hey you
know but he keeps the he kept the accent and i i wouldn't be surprised if he um if he kept the
Scottish accent throughout the shoot for this too because i've heard but i've heard that said by
a lot of um english and american actors who have been called on to do a scotish accent that's really

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difficult and we've heard some like pretty shocking um scotish i mean even the amneson in the big man
in robroi bermainty's Irish yeah we think if anybody could do a reasonable scotish accent it'd be
something from arland since we're very similar yeah um his scotish accent's not very good or
joan joan why they kill murs accent as well and stuff that's i think it helps massively probably

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on the people that surround him because i think about train spotting he's hanging out every day
pretty much all of his scenes are with you and bremner you and me greger robrookar liel and peter mullet
all these scotish accents and the same as this it's billy boy Laura Fraser and brown cocks so
it's quite easy to you know be able to i'm not saying it's quite easy sorry that's the wrong

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phrase to use but you know what i mean it's it's probably easier for him to to be able to keep up the
accent because of who he's talking to everything yeah if if you're that type of actor or that type of
character who can just absorb you know like yeah you know if you spend some time with somebody who's
visiting you and they're from a different country you know some they've known a couple people that

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they saw a stark to get a little bit of an inflection in their accent you know they give
those English guys or girls maybe they knew at university all the way through uni probably by
third to fourth year that little bit of inflection coming in that little bit of abordonian accent coming in
you know i would agree i think his is performance and the outstanding in terms of the the darkness

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and depression scenes he pulls that off so well you can see the lighthearted nature some of the
times when he's talking to Anne you know you can tell he's having fun when he is in parts you know
speaking to you know very honest in nature it reminded me when Douglas Bryan Cox's character

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arrives and he's neat and you crank for his bike yeah and he's looking over at smart cycles and
he's looking at obrace bikes kind of reminded reminded me of Bob Servan choosing between very good
video or blockbuster in a way in here but he goes in and he's so honest if like oh you're probably

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better going off to the big boys across the road and stuff and the honesty compassion and you
could tell the excitement of he loves cycling when he's eating his marmalade sandwiches with
them with malkey yeah and say oh have these in the morning and then it gets me out from my cycle
and he said that's 32 colabars yeah it's fine and I think the and then you get the darkness again

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like when he's when he's in the pub and he meets his old school bullies and he's shoving the bike at
them and tell them to fuck off and the anger when he's like take a fucking look at me because this is the
you know the closest you'll get yeah achieving anything in your life just a wonderful performance
from John Lee Miller you're right it really does absorb the role and some of those scenes when he's

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racing and the camera is just on his face and you got the sweat pouring off it like it looks
fucked and yeah you're right if he did a fair bit of the cycling in the film then no wonder but he
you're totally believing him in that more and the the scene I absolutely love is the the scene

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where the WCF or just fucking trying everything against him and just making every turn and he
unveils the tricycle and then he goes to the next meeting and they're like oh the saddle needs to be
five inches apart and he just grabs the hacks on fucking saws off and you you I probably do the same
thing in that moment I'd be like fuck you I've had enough of this right there you go yeah everything

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they do to try and go against him and then he gets a saddle from a 12 year olds mountain bike
and yeah I totally understand a belief where he's coming from and we'll probably do the same but
it's just such a you know it covers a lot of emotions the excitement when he realizes the washing
machine is the thing yeah and he's like oh yeah beauty and it's yeah it's a wonderful performance

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yeah he's brilliant and he's fucking to use like a modern parlance he is fucking hench and that's you
know what I mean right the muzzle and these calves and stuff about your old when you see him and
the scene when he's when he fails in the first record attempt but they've got the velodrome for
till the next day and he's a size to go again in the morning and he just keeps drinking

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pints of water so he's got to keep getting up to go for a piss to keep his muscles his muscles
listen things he doesn't seize up you know you can see that he's got himself in a serious shape
to play the role another actor I want to touch on briefly he's not a Scottish actor but Steven
Berkov who plays the WCF a chairman kind of baddie of the group always plays a bit of a baddie

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Steven Berkov and everything but interestingly when he was a young actor in the 60s or the 1970s he
was in a theater production in Glasgow for a few months and he's a key amateur photographer and he's
got and he's published you see some of them online all the photographs that he took of Glasgow at

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the time in the other sort of 1970s when he was there I don't know what the play was but obviously
it was like production that was on for a few months or whatever and so he's got a lot of photographs
of Glasgow city center from his time there that some of them have been published in the evening times
in the day the record and things you know but he's got he speaks very fondly of his time in Glasgow

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but I don't know how I always plays a fucking villain in everything that he's in probably just
he's just so good at it yeah he's so good like you are shouting at the screen you fucking asshole
as you know and they make no bones about it they are very much when they're sitting in the room it

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is a case of like right how do we stop him yeah yeah like we need to make up these rules and I can see
the embarrassment for them because and Graham Obrey himself has said this like he wishes he'd never
told anyone that all it is is the bearings are from a washing machine yeah on his bike but that's all
everyone focused on and if you read anything about the film you read anything but Obrey it's about

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oh he made a bike built from a washing machine and it's not he used the bearings for a tiny little
part yeah but for some reason that's just all everyone focused on and that's all effectively the
you know the world cycling Federation focused on as well and as they said like we can have someone
that's built a bike for a washing machine when he's making a mockery of us whereas the bike that

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he actually broke the you know the record on wasn't I mean it did use the bearings but it was still
it was his frame but it was the specialized tires and wheels that that kind of helped that in terms
of the the second attempt but all everyone focused on was this fucking washing machine part
the thing is like every sport that requires equipment to play like the equipment is always going

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to evolve over time you know like you know like I mean even when I was like young tennis rackets were
still wooden but like quite small sort of heads and then is you know it's timing on this sort of
the became graphite and the heads got bigger so there's more coverage and stuff like that and I could
example like I was watching the it's watching the archery in the begartuary the other day and the

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bows that they use they've got big fucking massive frames on the front for balance they've got like
lines of sight like sort of rods you can I guess that you can sort of line up with the target and
things like that I'm sure that there's still a high degree of technique and ability required
regardless how good the bows are but you've got all these things would give a modern sort of archer

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a huge advantage over somebody using like a basic bow bow from like 20 or 30 years ago so it's always
going to be the case and and sometimes these improvements are made for the safety of the athletes
as well you know what I mean yeah you know like he's he's adapted his bike to the stance the skier
stance that he felt was more aerodynamic and would help him move faster you know because of the

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the best drag on his boat the bit is body would cost but would create the strike if he was in that
position you know and that's exactly one of the the things that the commission kind of try to
put a point on that it is for his safety because he fell off once yeah and you know how many times
the fucking cyclists fall off when they're yeah it's an occupational hazard but they've used that as

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the the one time to to try and put a damp on him and using her way to fuck him over how many times
how many times do you fall off your bike when you were oh you go oh countless times problem no
to know not many even yeah I can think of a few probably like just happens I mean going fast or I
mean let's be honest you're jumping downstairs and stuff and going down big steep slopes and yeah

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you know you're been destructible when you're that age we want to try in that now no definitely
one other thing that struck me was the I mean the velodrome scenes are amazing like they're really
well shot and you know you're fatally a watch that guy just go round and round in circles and you have
to think that obery his sport was basically it was empty indoor tracks like what he broke the record

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and stuff and watch that man ride around at oval is exciting but I think Doug's making into a really good
job of of shooting those scenes however as much as exhausting it was for obery I also felt for
Anne while a Fraser's character because that's got to be fucking exhausting standing there for an
hour just shouting come on Graham yeah you could do it Graham come on Graham trying to be encouraging

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like every time it goes past but you must be like oh for fuck sake like this is exhausting for her as
well I could I could do a hard shouting encouragement when I'm so just I'm I'm not I'm training for a
10k I'm on I want the six keys and the last sort of five and a half so either last half kilometer
I could do with a bit of lovely lovely Laura Friezer just shouting a bit of encouragement for the

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last few minutes to get we get to the number six I like her in this because it's you know like she
often plays quite serious characters I would say you know what I mean like sometimes with a degree
of intensity and and in this one I don't think I've ever seen her I would like I've seen her smile
like really smile as much as in a film as she does in this you know like the scenes were hurting

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Johnnie Lee Miller like the more light scenes with her and Johnnie Lee Miller are really nice you
know what I mean and she you know I know she's not she's not in the film as much as we would have
liked to have had her in the film but where's the scenes that she isn't especially those early scenes
you know it's nice to see her playing quite a light sort of upbeat, happy character and even the

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scenes where she has to get a bit dramatic when Graeme's and he's sort of darker moments and things
and you know after the which she when he tries to kill himself he ends up in the hospital um you know
it's the she's got a light touch I think you know she's having fun like the scene that I love is the
and when she comes home and he's on the the kitchen floor like doing cycling motions and she comes

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in says no Graeme your bum does not look bigger no shorts yeah they have a laugh when he's talking about
the banana and the cycling wedged in positions and stuff and she's like did you get me on the
kitchen floor to talk about this and it's it's such a lovely little scene and again there's nothing
yeah dirty I mean cuts off before anything happens but yeah you're right she's just having fun

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and seeing her like cheering on her husband and she's such a I agree Keza in fact one of the first scenes
you know um that we kind of really see her and she it's when she's with her friend and they come out
and um Marquis just kind of come back from the the cycle that we're having and she's like we're
off to get fish and chip and he's like yeah yeah fish and chips and a pickle onion and you're kind of like

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it's yeah it's just a lovely kind of light hearted scene and you're right she does smile a lot
in this film yeah yeah she's so wonderful that so I'd love for a freezer that's just wonderful
I'd say one one one aspect of the film that caused me to suspend my belief a wee bit
there's fucking no way that Billy Boyd is winshing more of in Christy yeah no chance no chance at all
no chance I'd agree with you on that yeah more than Christy is yeah she's beautiful and uh

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a bit Billy Boyd's hands and maybe he's uh was flashing his hobbit money or something
it's a bit of four foot three yeah that's why he was convincing as a hobbit although I'd
had to know I've never seen them the uh Lord of the Rings Lord of the Rings I've seen the first 45
minutes the first one twice um fell asleep at the same time um both times um did grain win that race

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but Ron Donahee because Ron Donahee fucking sideswipes him with the van yeah I think he won that I think he
won it as well I think there was a little bit of a full play by Donahee there Donahee's character not by
by Donahee himself I'm sure Donahee's a good guy a good guy maybe play by the rules but by the
character certainly but then I think a wonderful part that sums up what I was explaining earlier about

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how we just always get behind Scottish sportsmen is that Ron Donahee comes across as like an evil
bastard in that that first kind of part but then later on you see him in the pub and he's cheating
him on yeah go on son and that's exactly go on son I can do it that's just sums up for me the
the wonderful way we get behind our athletes I another scene that I maybe seem to be a bit of a

(01:31:48):
place but I really really enjoyed it I thought it was really well done was when Malca played by
Billy Boyd goes to his chat raise money for Grames attempt and they they sort of operate and
direct or whoever imagined direct or starts to take his close off in the office but then puts on
some cycling gear and stuff I thought it was really it was really clever I thought Billy Boyd

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I'm not I'd be honest I'm not always a Billy Boyd fan to be honest with you I think he can
sometimes I think he goes I think he over acts about sometimes but I thought he was very good in that
scene and the guy who plays the manager was particularly good and it was nice that we'll call back
later on when he he stops at the pub when Grames in the race and he stops at the pub for a drink and

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they're watching it in the tally and he he's he's they are cheating them on as well I thought it
was nice that we'll call back to that really funny scene of course played by Moray Hunter which of
course a part of absolutely yeah so he was yeah that's right wonderful yeah and had a it sketch show
as well I think with Jack Dockerty right they had a they had a sitcom Mr. Don and Mr. George

(01:33:02):
of course I've got a little bit of that for years yeah I wonder if that's available anywhere
fuck me I don't have to watch that again yeah I've got to have a look at look for that and but yeah
yeah that is a great scene yeah you're right in terms of the the kind of surrealism of him just
getting undressed and you're thinking what the hell's going on here but yeah he's just off at

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cycle and because he loves yeah of course he's the the rapid employment that's him yeah
imagine that it's yeah yeah yeah rapid the point yeah yeah that's a good fit for him
did you not to get I've probably said far too much on this episode already I really
apologize to our English listeners I'm not anti-English at all but you're kind of like fucking

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bastard boredom in funny yeah it's his records like you know what's gonna happen but yeah kind of
like are you prick yeah it's that complex just it's that competitiveness that these guys you know
it's I think it's hard for us to it's not hard for people they cause who aren't guys that are just
out to break world records and challenge themselves and they've a lifestyle that involves

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sacrifice and take and putting a toll on your body and all that kind of thing but I can imagine you know
I can imagine that you know as soon as obry beaties record boredom is like fucking right I can beat
this guy and it's just sort of back and forth and I like to win the Italian guy congratulated
game like the former I can't really forget the athletes name now but we need you know the he sort

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of goes from looking a bit concerned that game is going to beaties record the sort of just getting
on sort of team obry and she's in the morning doesn't it's just a nice moment it's just it's a really
it's just a really good film this you know what I mean just it's a really it's like I know there's
a lot of deals with a lot of serious issues and stuff but it's just a really satisfying film I think

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as a film you know as a movie I feel I should go back to my point when I'm I've just kind of said about
oh yeah prick boredom but then the when obry then beats him yeah in the the 4k race and then
boredom comes over and congratulates him and then says like use my helmet for the final because it's
better than yours it's that's kind of a a nice moment you're like oh you're a good guy boredman

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actually you know you're kind of you know nice guy and helping him out so I just kind of feel I
need to clarify that point and because it's the it's the official sort of the bad guys and this
we're coming out with the the right flags and stuff the bureaucrats but you're right this is it
is a good film like it did it has its dark moments but it does have that that kind of feel good aspect

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of it that you are kind of wanting to cheer everyone on and you you really are right behind
grey mowberry and you're really hoping and it shows that like I say I kind of would you like to
a little bit more of course of the mental health aspect but I don't like to have a little bit more
on the the idea and the construction of old faithful as well yeah and it's quite a it's quite it's a great

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scene but you feel so sorry for for Graeme when he unveils it to malkey and his wife and Douglas and
it looks like shit and you can tell that they're so underwhelmed when he unveils it and I kind of
felt sorry for Graeme and when he gets on it and it's creaking and stuff and it's obviously it's the
first kind of prototype but yeah it's yeah I kind of felt sorry for him and I thought he did a great

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job as well of when when they're doing the record attempt so when he's starting off you know he starts
off so slowly and then and builds up and I thought it was greatly captured that aspect because like if
there's a Hollywood film he'd be like shooting out from the gates on the bike but it was so realistic
that he's starting off and cranking slowly and getting there yeah for sure yeah yeah I know and it's

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it doesn't look like the most sort of solid sort of contraption either it looks very slight you
know what I mean it looks like him sort of make a high winds might kind of blow him off the back of it
well you just get off my case and do your job I've got a state Graeme the bike that Bodeman's going on
cost half a million to develop and was designed by a computer so how the hell is that that thing

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that's made out of scrap and washing machine parts going to break a record that stood since
well since before they were born hi hi that's right son get one thing straight malkey I know
what I'm doing here maybe it doesn't look like it but this bike's been built according to the laws
of physics there's a scientific reason for every single bit of design and that's what I'm going to

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break that record with or without you well I don't need his help do this on my own you know another
aspect that that didn't go into too much but obviously we see him being bullied as a child and younger
years and then he goes into the pub to to use the phone and runs into his old school bullies who

(01:38:08):
obviously recognize him and I think it's quite great when he's like I'm trying to make a fun call
can just fuck off and fear play to him he stands up to them when they confront him later but then kind
of the main bully comes to his house later to tell him does he or is it I wasn't sure if if that was
a hallucination or if that actually supposed to happen oh I thought it was real I thought that

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happened but maybe it did you know maybe maybe maybe maybe it did when he tells him that his
Graham's old man locked up his old man and he died in prison yeah I thought that actually was
happening I didn't think that was a hallucination but maybe I might have misinterpreted that possibly
yeah I'm fine with the ambiguity I think okay is it time to put the flying Scott's been through

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our swalley awards do you have any more points no I think yeah let's put it through the awards
I'm looking forward to this one okay so the first award is always the Bobby the Barman
award for the best pub in the flying Scott's been so which one did you go for here I went with
the pub that is old school Belize Ren is it it kind of it looked like a decent booster but it's full

(01:39:18):
of our souls yeah I I've written here like I suppose the nice answer would be the pub that
Rondonike is watching the 4k sprinting but in reality I'm probably going to enjoy the pub that
Graeme stops to make the phone call in yeah it looks it looks better yeah we'll just sit in the

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corner it'll be fine to pay attendance in there next the word then a pair a lot of coverage
on this episode the James Cosmo award for being an everything Scottish one obvious choice here really
isn't there Rondonike has to be Rondonike yes of course it has to be not not a violent film this
really yeah some sort of threat of islands but the Jake McQuillan you have T-Zoot award I went with

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Graeme fall off his bike because it looked quite sore you know when they when they we need to sort of
fails the first record attempt and he can they keep scoring and falls off and then you go for
eh I want with Donnie he's side swiping him with the van yeah that's probably a bit more like it
as bad just I sort of felt it when he fell off his bike he just slipped a bit but sore I mean

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not so much a T-Zoot but a kind of psychological funny T-Zoot my second choice was him unveiling the
tricycle um yeah yeah yeah yeah you know it's it's almost like a two fingers T-Zoot like kind of thing
that would that would maybe become the Jack and Vector get it up here award yeah get it right up

(01:40:50):
you know well that one occasionally yeah yeah yeah so as far as unity goes there's nothing good
to it the the closest thing is the rapid employment imagine direct are stripping down to his
briefs and basically you're on but no eh no sexy moments swearing uh I think catch any f-bombs
there's a few buggers and bloodies there was maybe a wee f-bomb in the pub uh when he tells him

(01:41:13):
to fuck off when he's on the phone and they're calling over to him does he I can't really remember
he he tells him to fuck off I think he says I'm trying to make a fucking call here that's true
but I went with the like probably about a minute later when the bullies are confronting him you know
we just wanted to upgrade them yeah yeah and he's he's waving the bike at them and he does say uh take

(01:41:33):
a good fucking look at me because this is a close she'll get to anything worthwhile that's right yeah
yeah I think we'll give it to that one next thing so I've got a few for this archetypal
Scottish moment I have two for this so if you've got a few let's go right well you first give me
your first one uh well the first one archetypal Scottish moment so I just bury in your mental health

(01:41:57):
problems as deeply as they'll go until until you reach cancer or crisis so you'll skip any Scottish
thing you do yep I'd say that's fair enough yeah I can agree with that yeah well what was your first one
I don't know what mad is try calling me English again yeah I've written that one as well I've got
yeah I've got being best pals with a French whatever reasons yeah no further reasons Scotland's always

(01:42:25):
the older lions with France usually in all matters pertaining to England yeah that's true yeah
I've got someone I've mentioned a couple of times before but Scottish people just getting behind
a Scottish athlete like Ron Donohy in the pub Chironon Graham yeah and that should be the one

(01:42:45):
that we finish on because the only other one I've got is just the no fucks given for the badweiler
just rain hailer shine yeah true actually yeah that's that's very true nobody seems to be bothered
about older rain yeah yeah and then last one then the big time award my bathroom companion Bizarrely
last night in the cinema when I went to see Deadpool who wins a film for you I mean it's obvious for

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both of us as jolly Miller isn't it yeah yeah yeah it's fucking brilliant in this and so nice to see him
in a role during a Scottish accent that isn't sick boy but yeah you're right he just he really
embodies and it's just tiny little nuances that he does and he handles the role so well

(01:43:31):
and does I think it's great we're pretty proud in this in this role so yeah yeah it's good
to join the email I will shadow a tank yeah because it you know it's is is not always a sympathetic
character in this you know I mean no no no at all right can I mostly he is but not always you know
especially in his relationships with the people around them when he's particularly focused

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and and I think Johnny the Mitherdes he can it does a great job it can be keeping you on his side
even during those moments I've given a wee special nod to Brian Cox even though he's not any
much but I think he deserves a wee honorable mention no as you say he's not a sympathetic character at
all times can you imagine effectively his his shop has gone out of business he has dedicated himself

(01:44:18):
to therefore trying to break the one hour record yeah his wife is working full times and nurse
they've got a kid so they've only got one wage coming in yeah and she comes home to find that he is
dismantled the washing machine yeah can you imagine could you imagine what would happen in that
situation I know what happened normally I know what happened in my house yeah I would be sitting here

(01:44:42):
recording a podcast for you yeah so can you just imagine what would happen yeah I know indeed so yeah
but okay does it very well well if you are listening at home and you're somebody who you're a man who
is perhaps suffering with mental health and you're in Scotland you could do a lot worse than going

(01:45:03):
on to www.mainmattersscotland.org who earlier to support all men's mental health issues prove quality
of life in which connections etc very very good service and if you're not in Scotland I'm sure if
you google and you'll find a lot of help and support wherever you are in the world yeah yeah thanks

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like Greg and yes I would agree it does take a lot of courage to make that first step but once you do
it's very worthwhile right well that was the flying Scotsman Greg and I believe it is available on
YouTube actually um towards the whole film so when you should yeah so if you want to watch it then

(01:45:46):
you can find it there probably should have said that the start of the episode where we spoil the
perhaps that shite out of it so that was it that was my choice Greg so the the handlebars swing
round to you what are we going to be talking about on the next episode of the culture swallow?
well I've decided to go for something a bit more modern a bit of a change of pace and I've gone

(01:46:11):
with the 20 21 mystery thriller written and directed by Christian Cario that's a remake of his 2017
flinch film uh style and James McAvoy and the lovely lovely clear foy my son um which is
uh available I believe on Netflix if you want to watch it before you hear us trying to make light of

(01:46:38):
what sounds like a really dark story so yeah that's because we'll watch that for the next
episode of the culture swallow that had been on my list for quite a while and every time I think
about picking it I'm like mmm I don't know if I'm ready for this um because it sounds quite dark but
uh okay we're gonna go to the dark place for we are fuck me I'm gonna have to pick something funny

(01:47:01):
for the next uh next one yeah we palette cleanse okay right my son okay wonderful I look forward
discussing that with you the next episode uh okay well thank you so much for listening everyone
hope you enjoyed the show if you would like to get in touch with us you can you can email us on
culture swallow at gmail.com and just get in touch with anything you'd like us to cover or any new

(01:47:25):
stories you've seen you'd like us to cover or hey just get in touch and say hello you can follow us
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have a beautiful website as well don't you Greg we do you can find us at cultureswalley.com which I
just renewed and updated last week so thanks to other episodes uh some features and blog posts

(01:47:50):
about Scottish TV and film so come and give us some traffic on the old website fantastic and also
check out dot escapeboards.com as well right wonderful Greg well it's a Wednesday so I know on your
bike it's very strange normally we're kind of like right we did in the weekend but it's a Wednesday
work on this this is bizarre I'm gonna have to get this beasted because it comes out in eight days

(01:48:15):
time I'd send it to you to so I can listen to it approve and then I delete what I said earlier
probably about Joanna Van der Am so yeah well then until next time until next time bravo sandwich man
I'm going okay
you're possible there wcf man's to have access oh 24 hours that was what my manager

(01:48:38):
agreed with the people here so we've got the stadium till till 10 30 tomorrow morning
but Greg! 9 o'clock tomorrow morning you English amad you want to know what madness try calling
me English again I'm of the very and I'm very proud to be called German but I know your Irish
Scott's who is fighting you can't help it yeah nice okay
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