Episode 111 - Playhouse (2020) - The Culture Swally

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I'm well, I'm, well, I'm, they were saying before, but 85% physically because I was at an 80s
boat party. Well, it wasn't any, it was, it was somebody's birthday, the party was for someone's
birthday and for some reason they wanted to have an 1980s themed party and I think you've
spoken on the podcast before that neither of us are particular fancy dress, fans, I know you used to

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be when you're younger days, but I never really have and so my, my wife managed to borrow a sort of
off the shoulder, can a t-shirt? She got some, some kind of bright orange leggings, she got some
leg warmer, she got those little lacy fingerless gloves that lay these light to wear, it girls like to

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wear the 80s, yep, she put on her, so it occurred that she's got a few wigs because quite often
ladies with Afrocaribbean hair will get their hair sort of braided because it's to protect it
and the wear wigs, so she's got a few wigs, she's like, she's like, the, um, she's like the baddie in
return to Oz with all the, she covered full of heads, you know, interchangeable heads, so she's

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brought on the kind of curly one with a leopard print headband, she borrowed my daughter's air Jordans,
although that was a bit of a waste of time because no shoes or socks allowed in the boats,
uh, it got to be bare-cores, yep, um, and I just put on a t-shirt,
because I'm not a fan of dressing up, but it was good fun, um, I drank two bottles of

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Ernie Els, Ernie Els has got a set of the braided golfer, Ernie Els for anyone who's not sure who he is,
he's got his own vineyard now, Ernie has got up, he does, yeah, he does a cabernet soveniorn that
called the big easy, um, so, that was his nickname, yep, uh, and, yeah, very, very palatable,
so, the barter tuba was a lot, um, don't remember getting home, but woke up in bed

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of own this morning, um, because my wife-a-lake could sleep in the spare room because apparently,
when I go to bed after having a few drinks, I'm appearing the arse, snoring, restless, like
throwing the covers off, pulling the covers on, all that kind of thing, um, so she'd say
just to get in front of it and slept in the spare room, but I'm fine, I'm actually fine,

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so you smashed two bottles of red wine, then got home and then did the jitterbug in bed, basically,
yeah, pretty much, pretty much, yep, how did the choose-life t-shirt go down, was it?
-Oh, yeah. -Did you feel like you'd kind of, how was everyone else dressed? Did you feel that you had
made minimum effort, or did you think you were cool by making minimum effort?
-Um, well, someone else had the same idea as me, an Australian guy, so I told him he was George

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Michael, and I was Andrew Vigilay, um, in case before he got the chance to say the same back to me,
there was a guy who, he put on- -Did you want each other off in a toilet?
-No, there was a guy who dressed up in a shell suit with a sort of fake big chunky gold chain

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and a bucket cap, so a bucket hat, rather, so a perhaps a bit of a racially insensitive costume,
so I think he was trying to be run DMC, but he's obviously, did he black up? He's white, no he didn't
black up, thankfully. -And then, yeah, that was good. -Oh, the girls lack a metaphor, yeah,
well, yeah, that might have been a step before. Um, yeah, and most other ladies were dressed,

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sort of similarly, to Paula, um, my wife, I think Paula put the moon,
she obviously looked better than the rest of them, they've sort of contractually bound to say that,
and there was one lady, there was a lady who sort of dressed up a little bit, like, Cindy Loper,
but, well, they kind of punk, but they kind of punk thing as well, so she had sort of T-shirt with some

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rips held together with, uh, safety pins and she had braces on holding up a big floaty Cindy Loper
type skirt, and then there was a couple of guys who just fucking didn't do anything,
including the husband of the woman whose party it was. So what, he didn't make any effort, so
what was he waiting? He was just wearing a sort of Hawaiian shirt that he bought from

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Tommy Bahamas in the morning. -Maybe when is Magnum PI? -Yeah, maybe. I don't think he would have thought of
that. I think he was just like, I'm not fucking dressed up. Fair enough. I don't know what,
I was cool, actually, if I was to go to an 80s parry, one guy, one guy, one guy was dressed as
Maverick, and he's in a flight suit from top gun. -Okay, sorry. -I mean, I've done that before,

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but I don't know what, I think I'd be too tempted to go as like, Peter Sutcliffe for
Pat Roach. Pat Roach, Pat Roach, yeah, just stuff, one of your wife's wigs down my trouser, so I've got
loads of pubes and that goes, goes Pat Roach. Actually, that would, yeah, I probably would go as

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like somewhat from a fidisane pet or something. -Oz, Jimmy Nail. -Yeah, that would probably be, yeah,
I'd go with something niche, I think. I'd go with something that no one would get, and everyone
would be bemused as to what I was dressed as. -That's definitely what I would go as. -Probably, I mean,
if you had been at that party last night dressed as Pat Roach, probably you and I would probably be

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the only ones that would have recognized who you work to be fair, I don't think. But not a
be body slamming cuts off the deck in the boat, yeah, not big boat, not big pop culture people,
I wouldn't say that crowd that was with us, no, they wouldn't know Pat Roach. I think you would,
I think you would probably have to say, oh, you know Pat Roach, remember, the wrestler, he was on

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my fidisane pet, he battered Harrison Ford and made us a little star, and, yeah,
any blacked up for the temple of doom. -That would be the go-to reference though, it wouldn't
it would be like, remember the wrestling, no, Pat Roach, no, I remember, big daddy and Kendra
Nagasaki and Johnny A's Tags, so I don't remember Pat Roach, okay. -Have you disaimed pet? -Nope.

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Indiana Jones, we've seen him, he was the German mechanic. -Yeah, he was the enormous Indian
that faced the temple of doom, even though he's from Bristol and about as white as the con.
-It's a different time. -I'm sure everyone regrets that though. -Yeah, I'm sure they do.

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Wonderful, well, I'm glad that you had a great 80s evening and, yeah, but why don't we step out of
the 80s and have a look at what's been happening in Scotland for the last couple of weeks? -Cue the
jingle. -Hello, this is the Outdoor Heavily's Broadcasting Co-Demoration and here is what's been going on

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in the new- -Okay, Greg, so what have you seen in Scotland over the last couple of weeks that you
would like to share with me and our lovely listeners? -Well, this is, this one comes from the Scottish
Sun, it's a couple of weeks old now, the 24th of September. The headline needs prudence,
verses, nudes, nudes, NUDs, disgusted locals, calling the cops to try and stop naked swim at

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popular Scots Beach. Alison, sorry, Alan Ellison, 64, wanted to promote the benefits of skinny
dipping and put up a poster encouraging people to sign up. This is at Finnehorn Beach. But the ads
was nicked repeatedly while some shocked residents went online to brandy event,

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disgusting. At least one took it further when they rang up the police to see if they could
ban the naked swim at Finnehorn Beach in Moray. Retired teacher, Alan said, "One member of the
public contacted a local police to question the legality of the sign and the event. It was reassuring
that the police responded that they had been informed of the event and that it was legal,

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so no action needed to be taken." I accept that some people don't like the fact that it's legal
and there are also many who don't want to take part. But naturalist Alan ploughed on revealing
he had to keep visiting the beach with new posters. He added that I was bemused that the
sign kept being removed, that denied people the opportunity to join in. It could also be seen as a

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warning to avoid a short stretch of the beach for an hour. Marie Dade of Two Alan, as always
loved wild swimming and was tempted to strip off in quiet spots, but he thought it was illegal.
It was only when he signed up to British natureism five years ago that he discovered that it wasn't
against the law. Since moving to Forrest in Moray, these turd Scotland stripped off discreetly

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at remote areas when he gets the chance, and be tempted to check Alan's hard drive.
Last year, he organised his first charity Skinny Dip at Finnehorn and was delighted when 25
people turned up. In this time, despite the protests, he got a record 31 attendees. Swimmers
ranged from people in their 20s to their 70s who were all keen to take part in the social

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gallery. Alan said, "People simply came along if they were interested or curious. Nobody was forced
to take part or even join in naked. One person joined then spontaneously in a costume, but enjoyed
the spirit of the occasion, and may go further next time. I'm assuming he's a swimming costume,
not like a front end of a horse or something. The biggest problem on the day of the swim earlier

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this month was a cold mist that descended on the beach. While the rest of the country saw
soaring temperatures at Finnehorn, it was just 15 degrees. Alan said that that meant
many only dipped briefly in good dress promptly afterwards. Others lost track of the time while
chatting in the water and stayed in a bit longer than they should, but were quickly revived by a hot
drink in a piece of millionaire shortbread. Alan's great British skinny dip raised £190

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for the Finnehorn June's trust, and he's already thinking about organising another event at the same
time next year. So the first thing that strikes me about this, right? How is it any better for you
to go swimming naked in the sea than it is to go swimming with a pair of shorts on?
You get the sea salt in your foreskin, but you're going to get that anyway because

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your swimming caution doesn't keep the water out, you know what I mean? It just covers your modesty.
Am I correct? Did you mention it? So skinny dipping is not illegal.
And Scotland is it? Apparently not. Apparently it's legal. Wow. Okay. Have you ever gone skinny dipping?
Categorically not. I do not have the body confidence. Well when I say body confidence, I guess I don't

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have the cock confidence. I'd be brutally honest with you and the listeners to go completely naked
in public. Okay. What about you? Never in public, but I have. I've been in a pool naked,
but one time I was in Thailand and we had a villa. Right. In fact, we didn't have a villa. We had

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a hotel room and I, we checked in that day and I went to the toilet and did, because as we spoke about
a couple of episodes ago, I don't, I don't poo on a plane. Right. So I got into the hotel room and
it was a nice hotel room. We had a balcony and we had a, like a, a Jacuzzi on the balcony and I went to

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the toilet and did a massive shit. And obviously forgot that you're not supposed to flush toilet paper
when you're in those countries. Right. So I, I blocked the toilet and I had to call the reception
and they came up and they could not unblock this toilet. So we ended up getting an upgrade. So we

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got a villa with our own pool. Wow. So that was the best shit I ever did in my life. That's like
four, half a, so for the next week we had this villa with a pool. So yeah, I ended up going to the pool naked.
Yeah. So most for sure it's this jobby. So it was, it was, yeah, it was a very good jobby. Yeah.
But yeah, yeah, that's the only time. I've never been in, in, in to see naked or anything like

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I, I, I don't really fancy that. So no, but I see what you mean in terms of it is kind of the same
because you are absorbing the, the saltwater. So is it any different really? But there's something
about being free and easy, isn't that? About just being naked and at one with nature. Yeah. I think,
I, I feel like you can achieve the same thing with a pair of someone's shorts on from being, yeah,

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quite honest. I mean, I just, this guy doesn't say where Alan has moved to Forrest from. I wonder if it's
more to do with the fact that here's this off-comer organising the community event unless to do with them
getting their kit off. Are you suggesting that Alan is on some kind of register? No, I'm just, I'm just

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suggesting that in my experience, the further north one goes the less welcome, um, well, the English
are, you know, it seems, yeah, maybe I'm saying that it's been, maybe not the case anymore, but
my stepfather's English, he's lived in the village of Maud just outside Aberdeen for 32 years.

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It's fair to say that he's still not well liked. Oh, really? Is he seen as an outsider? Yeah, yeah,
because he's from Huddersfield in Yorkshire and he lives in the schoolhouse. So it does get abuse. No,
they just don't take him on, you know what I mean? They probably talk about him at the pub and stuff

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like that, you know, and him up there in that schoolhouse, we use motorbikes, English, English,
con. Um, I mean, I'm speaking from, I'm speaking, I mean, to be honest, like, when I first moved to
Maud from Glasgow, no one really fucking took me on, I like, so, so it's not just that anti-English,
just anti-Auntie, anti-abdorn Maud, anti-outsideers, um, or off-comers as they refer to as as off-comers.

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I've never heard that term off-comers. Off-comers, yeah, that's what they say. That's what they say in the
north, but that's what they say in Maud anyway. I can't speak for the whole northeast of Northeastern
Scotland. And it's, it's weird really because when I went to school, I went to school in a village nearby
called Mintwell. So loads of English kids, yeah, so, um, so it wasn't like, it wasn't like, yeah,
there wasn't, I only knew one other glass-meaching kids, they could grow called Audrey. Didn't know

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any other, didn't know anybody else in Glasgow, um, it's school, but it was quite a lot of English kids
because of the oil, right? So it's, you know, cheaper to live outside of Aberdeen and, uh,
kind of commute in than it was at that time certainly to live in the city. Well, that's what your
pal does when you skinny-dipping. It's all off-comers. Yeah, yeah, how do you feel about, uh,

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natureists imposing their naked agenda in the community?
Yeah, it doesn't bother me, is that so, I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to see it, but, yeah,
it doesn't bother me if that's what you like to do, then do it. I mean, do you think it makes you happy?
You've seen worse out your flat window when I'm so damn angry, so, I have, yeah, I have, yeah,
my old apartment, yeah, I used to do my neighbour masturbating in front of the TV, um,

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yeah, I subscribe. Yeah, I've definitely seen worse, but, yeah, it doesn't bother me if that's what makes
you happy than do it. Like, I don't care. Like, it's part of the, yeah, we've all got bits and pieces,
so why does it matter? Like, it's not a big thing. As long as there's no kids involved or anything,
then I don't mind. Go and do what makes you happy. Like, I think there's, if there's a, a nature beach

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that, you know, people can go and be naked and be happy, then go and do it, but, yeah,
along with there's no kids involved. That's, that's my only, um, fair enough, thank you. Yeah,
we don't want to see naked kids on the beach at Moray. How do you feel about it? I mean, obviously,
you're living in the Middle East, so that's, yeah, it's not really, I, I, I've done thing there. Yeah,
I mean, I'm a ballad, you know, I say good luck to them, you know, I mean, they got, they got,

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they got, they got work on for them, some their bodies and I do, so good luck to them. I will say,
obviously, my traitorous wife sent you and her mutual friend, the video, I've, I've,
I've a, a video of me choosing life on, uh, the, um, the boat last night and I think, but I,
I think to myself, probably look better than I've looked and fucking, since I was in my 20s,

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probably, you know what I mean? Um, since I've, obviously, I've been in my running, um,
my running journey for the last few months, um, so like I wasn't, I was, I was actually quite, oh,
not bad there, actually. It's, 'cause you're wearing an ATT shirt, right? So to give back to that time. Yeah,
maybe anyway, that is my first Scottish news story this week, it's over to you. Uh, so my first story

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this week, Greg, it comes from Glasgow live and it concerns Hollywood star Alan Cumming, who
retrieved a hidden vodka bottle from a Glasgow lane. So, uh, as the article says, we're probably all
done at some point, stash to drink somewhere pre-event to retrieve it later. You done that? I've
probably, I think I've done that before. Like I was a kid's definitely, yeah, well, but I was a young

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teenager with going hide or carry out. Yeah. And it appears that not even Hollywood actors are exempt
if they have Scottish roots, at least. As Gold and I, an X-Men star, Alan Cumming, proved as he
shared a hilarious clip of himself heading to Glasgow lane to find his prized bottle of vodka.
The traitorous US presenter shared a video on his Instagram and explained that having flown recently

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with the only hand luggage, he didn't want to give away a bottle of his favourite Scottish vodka
or beaky. Alan can be seen in the video wandering around a lane next to a church, just off
Wittland's road in Glasgow, West End. Yeah. Uh, he goes on to explain, on Friday, I'm not going to
do Alan Cumming's voice, I don't know why, I just, I don't do Scottish people's voices first,

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if it's a celebrity. So, um, he goes on to explain, on Friday, I was in Glasgow, but I flew from Edinburgh.
When I finished filming, someone gave me a bottle of my favourite Scottish vodka,
our beaky, but I didn't want to give it away and I couldn't take it on the plane as I just
took hand luggage with me. So, I hid it. As he gets further into the lane, he adds, "I hid it
on Friday morning and I wonder if it's made it." Reaching down behind a red street sign,

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propped against some trees, a triumphant Alan exclaims, "Yes, so excited, thank you Glasgow."
In the post, in which he tags the famous estillery in our broth, he wrote, "Reunited with my
our beaky distillery, nadir, climate positive vodka." Enthrolled fans loved the clip,
and were quick to comment on his clever tactics. One post, the squirrel emoji, writing, "Ha ha ha,

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sneaky." While another added, "Quality Glasgow, baby hiding."
And that's the end of the article. So yeah, Alan Cumming, you got gifted a bottle of vodka,
hid it behind a road sign, and I've watched the clip, and it is brilliant. He hides it behind this
road sign in behind this tree, and then he goes back to retrieve it, and he's documenting it. He's

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like, "I hid this bottle of vodka like last week. Let's see if it's still there." And bizarrely,
it was still there. Amazing that in Glasgow, that bottle of vodka is still there after a few days.
I mean, I think the biggest risk there was the streak thingers coming along in
chucking it, you know what I mean? Because people just thought that it was just an empty bottle,

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that some tool I could stuck behind there when they'd finished drinking it, you know?
It was wrapped in paper, I should say. Oh, really? Like when you got the clip. So it was wrapped in like
gray kind of paper, but yeah, okay, so it was kind of, but it still obviously bottle shaped,
so you would kind of know what it was if you'd seen it. You'd think it was a bottle, but yeah,

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it's impressive. It is impressive. It was still there. I like Alan Cummins. I've told you before,
like, as an FU worked for me, because an FU Gaddy worked for me in my last job just before I was
contracts, just for a left, to move to Kuwait since 2015. He looks a lot like his famous uncle. He's
a big fan of the legend of Zelda, and he's got like the legend of Zelda, the video game, he's got

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like the sort of triangle logo for the game tattooed in his arm. But the thing, but I always wondered
about Alan Cummins. I don't remember if we spoke about this when we covered Come Fly with me, but
like the High Life, the High Life, sorry, yeah, getting mixed up with the map look is thing.
Because obviously Deadpool and Wolverine has been out of the cinema recently, and they're

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going to see it, really enjoyed it, and the credits show up behind the scenes of the first X-Men film.
So I watched the first one in the second one, and I'd forgotten that Alan Cummins was in the second one,
if it was Nightcrawler in the second one. And it's actually a fuck, I've watched it for years,
it's actually a really good film, the second X-Men film. Yeah, X2's brilliant, yeah, and obviously

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we're one of our favourite Brian Cox's in it as well. But Alan Cummins absolutely fantastic as
Nightcrawler, like, yeah, absolutely fantastic. But he was also in this other thing that me and the
family were watching recently, the guy who made Tiger King for Netflix has made a documentary for HBO

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called Chimp Crazy about these fucking mad Americans that keep chimpanzees. They keep like apes as pets,
and like, the thing about chimpanzees is that they are lovely cute little things when they're babies,
but when they become adults, they can be super aggressive. So there's a few horror stories about people
getting their fucking faces ripped off by pet monkeys that they've had for years, but Alan Cummins was in it

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because he had, he starred in a film, camera was called, but it was starred in a Hollywood film years ago,
and one of his co-stars was this chimpanzee called Tonka, and he had been like a kind of movie
chimpe when he was young. And then Alan Cummins said, you know, he's a big, he's a big supporter of
Peter, the American Animal Rights Organization in the US, and he said, you know, he said, he said,

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he said, in hindsight, I kind of, you know, they don't have in the chimps in the film, wasn't right,
you know, and you don't have to do that now because of special effects, you don't have to have
like real animals because of what they can do with special effects, but he really, really bonded
with Tonka, and what happened to him, the monkey that is, is when you got too old to be, they can

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commercial films, they basically retired them in this woman who kept chimpanzees as pets to come in.
So she gets Peter when a case against her to have her chimpanzees taken off her and moved to this,
there's this charity, basically they've got two big islands that the chimps just live on,
it's a sanctuary for the chimps, so she, all the chimps that she had, she had about like seven or eight

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chimps, they all got taken to this island, but Tonka disappeared, and there was a kabink, there was a
big, there was a big sort of campaign that tried and found, and the women told her that the women said
that he had died and that they had cremated them, but it turned out that they hadn't, she kept them,
and she was hiding them, but Alan coming offered like a big reward for information leading to Tonka's,

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but to find out what actually happened to them, but so anyway, it's a happy story, a happy ending,
because they did find Tonka, Tonka, he, he now lives in this sanctuary, and, funnily enough,
the chimpanzees that they were, that they sort of put them with, one of them is his son, because he
was just a breed, and, wow, yeah, so anyway, there's a nice, there's a nice big thing for Alan coming,

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he doesn't, he doesn't get close to Tonka, but he gets to go and see him, kind of,
rumping around and he's new home and stuff, it was great, it was great touchin'.
So Tonka got a happy ending, Tonka got a happy ending in all Fallon coming,
that's the social clip for this week, because of Alan coming.

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I miss seeing my like Alan coming, obviously as you know, we covered the High Life Fem,
oh, a couple of years ago, I can't even remember what episode it was, but it's available
for a Vigard podcast, and the High Life is one of my favorite TV shows of all time, and you're right,
like it kind of says in the article, you know, the X-Men star, and I guess that is what he's kind of known

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for, in Hollywood, because you think Alan coming, but he's been a massive like Broadway actor as well,
and, you know, he does a lot of stuff, and now he presents the traders in the US, I think he,
won an Emmy, I think, for the traders. Last month, yeah, for the traders, yeah. I think the traders won an Emmy,
I think he won for like, best host, or something. I haven't watched the US traders, I love the UK

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version, but I haven't watched the US version, because I think the US version is a little bit like,
kind of, they mix celebrities with normal people, and I don't know, I can't really be asked,
the US version, I kind of like the UK version, where he is obviously the area, the other evil,
and the cult, the other Vigavodia presenting as well. Of course, the lovely Claudia won't come in,

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but yeah, I haven't watched it, but yeah, I think he won an Emmy, so Alan coming is a, I would say he's
a national treasure, yeah, in terms of, in Scotland, yeah, ways, he's a wonderful human being,
he seems like a really nice guy, and yeah, I'm delighted, and that just shows with this little
new story that he's stashed a bottle of vodka behind a road sign, and you know, you can take the boy

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at a Scotland, he can never take a Scotland out of the boy, like that's, it's wonderful, he hasn't lost
it at all, it should have posted it to himself, like Cosmo did with these, so it's Arminite,
that's a very good point, I don't know, probably expensive to post a bottle of vodka,
yeah, you've got to be worried that it's going to get damaged than that,

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yeah, for sure, but there we go, so that's Alan coming, stashing a bottle of vodka behind a road sign,
what else have you seen this week, Greg? So this is about my next story, it's also from the Scottish
Sun, and it's, the headlight needs a cleaned up, school guy, and school janitor, scoops Urumilian's

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fortune before celebrating in the cheapest way possible, this is John McDowell, who's 53, and from
Bathgate in West Lothian, he plans on taking early retirement after he's shocked when
earlier this month, I'm not sure 183 grants enough to retire on, no, you know, anyway, the dad of three,
who also looks after his own father, made himself a cup of tea to calm down, after re-thighs in

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each struck gold, but now he has more lavish plans, he's looking forward to as he tries to process,
has a life-changing windfall, John said, "I absolutely love my job, but when in this money will
mean I get to retire that little bit earlier and put my feet up sooner, I can't wait to treat
my family, my brother has never been abroad before, so the first thing I want you to do is pick a
holiday, somewhere hot and sunny for us both." So where would you go, if you had a brother who'd

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never been on a holiday, there'd never been a broad before, and you wanted to take him on holiday,
where would you take him? Hawaii, right, I think we're on the same wave then, John is not on our wave
then, I asked them whether they'd been a door, no, I asked them whether they'd fanned it spending
Christmas in Egypt as it would be nice to spend some time swapping the cold, Scottish weather for

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somewhere warm at that time of year, he agreed, so I told him to get his passport ordered,
it would be a really special holiday, yeah, I don't know about Egypt, I mean one, it's not a Christian
country, so going there for Christmas, it's not going to be that much fun, and there's a lot
nicer, closer places you could go to, John, John, he also added, "I've been wanting to get myself a

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new car for a while, but I've been putting it off, but I'll definitely be shopping for one soon,
I like to travel up north to get away from it all in style, so I'd love to get an SUV style car,
maybe a Kia Sportage, so you're going skinny to help me explore, bye, he's got that option,
up north, yeah, I would also like to help my daughters plan for their futures, so I'll now also be

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able to help them get on the property ladder when the time's right, I think John thinks that it's
like 1985, and he's 183 grams, you know what I mean? Yeah, that money is not going to go that far, John."
Yeah, John had bought lottery tickets for three years without success prior to hitting the jackpot,
but he matched the main five numbers and one lucky star in the Euromillion straw on the 6th of September,

(29:41):
the school caretaker was just about to go to bed when he's phone pings with an email from the national
lottery, he almost ignored the message to get some kip before curiosity got the better of him,
John said, "Everyone in the house was in bed, so I made myself a cup of tea before telling anyone,
I then woke my dad up to tell him, he didn't understand it first, he thought I was joking,
it's so surreal, I can't believe it, I'll come in the place for John, but I think, I think maybe

(30:05):
overestimating how far 183 grams will go in 19, in 19, in 2024."
I mean, it is a life changing sum of money, but not that much, to be honest.
Yeah, it's not huge amount, but it is, that would change your life, if you suddenly,

(30:26):
if you got 1803 grams deposited in your bank account tomorrow, it would change your life.
Yeah, 100 grams in the pension fund, and then 20 grams each for the family to go in,
my two daughters, although my daughters would probably spend the olden fucking delivery and sheen,
to be honest, but yeah, but then, yeah, but then, good on, John, like it's a, that's a life changing thing,

(30:50):
but yeah, I agree with you, Egypt, it wouldn't be the first place I would think of, like,
right, I've just won a load of money, I'm gonna tell my brother somewhere, special Egypt, Egypt,
I know Shabo Sheikh, yeah, it wouldn't be the first place that would spring to mind, like,
up to, yeah, Hawaii was obviously the first place, what about you? Where would you?
I mean, if Hawaii to go somewhere a bit closer to home, I probably, I really, really like

(31:16):
creed, it's creed through the nice, and, you know, the semi-the-nice parts of Greece,
I think that would be a nice, you know, if I wanted to take somebody abroad who'd never been
abroad before, I think, taking them somewhere like Greece, or maybe even some of the,
the nicer sort of resort towns and cities in Spain, you know, I can't think of any that they're called,

(31:37):
but, you know, maybe something like that, rather than your Benadorms, but your, I don't know,
if you know a nice Spain package holiday place, then, chop as an email and tell us,
I mean, like, Alacantay, yeah, Alacantay, yeah, yeah, somewhere nice, yeah, rather than your,
yeah, your Benadorms, or your, um, Tenerife, or something like that, yeah, you want to go somewhere,

(32:01):
um, kind of, with a little bit of culture, yeah, rather than just a, a general tourist trap, nice scenery,
and, yeah, Egypt, yeah, that's a strange choice. I just, I mean, Egypt just smells of cigarettes.
Unfortunately, like, the whole country just smells of cigarettes. Anyway, that's very true.

(32:23):
I'd fucking love, I'd love, yeah, I can't believe the water, because I don't, I'm not a UK citizen,
anymore, unfortunately, so if, if, if I want it, and they found out that I didn't live in a UK,
they would, they wouldn't give me the money, um, but I would put, I put my lottery on, I lived in a UK,
I'm sort of like, well, a couple of quite a week. You never, you never know, Niki, you just never know.

(32:44):
Yeah, but then you could do my brother-in-law does. He, um, plays the lottery in the Euro-Millions every week,
but he puts in his cousin's wife's name, and, um, plays that, and they have an understanding that
she'll get, like, 10% of whatever they win. Every win, it's, it's, it's in her name. Right. Yeah.
You could do that, you still got family in the UK. You could, you could do that. It's a, sounds like a

(33:09):
potential recipe for family, this harmony though. Yeah, I often wonder that as well, because he's
always promising me, he's like, yeah, no, if I win like Euro-Millions, you know, you'll get a million,
and so until I get a million, and they'll get a million and stuff, and I'm like, yeah,
well, Sandra, don't just keep it all though, because it's in her name technically. Exactly.
Like, why would I be happy with a million when I could have all, oh,

(33:37):
I could have all the millions. Yeah, yeah, it's a recipe that if it's an astra, I agree with you on that.
Is that, uh, Charles and Dyke, up here, drinking it over there? No, it's, uh, Jain Silent Bob's secret
stash. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's not, that's not, I got from, when I visited Jain Silent Bob's secret

(33:58):
stash in New Jersey, we had banked and it's Charles and Dyke, yeah, because I'm such a fucking royalist
that I would have a fucking Charles and Dyke, but I don't know, you're maybe drinking it over
ironically, I don't know. Does Simon the kind of thing I would do? Honestly, yeah, you're right.
Okay, well, yeah, that's, um, like, sure, man, uh, John there, I do like, I do like it when people who

(34:20):
do, it's good when the lottery won, when the lottery money goes to people who are, I mean,
are sort of working class, you know what I mean? Like a guy who's a janitor wins a lottery, it's like
I said, you know, kind of fairy story, you know? Who is the cunt, um, Michael, something, the big
ranger, yeah, yeah, one the lottery. And he ended up just buying a farm and quad bikes and just fucking,

(34:41):
yeah, he doesn't have spunked it all and cook and booze and stuff. There was a story about him,
is it Michael Carroll? Michael Carroll, yes, that's it. That's it. That was, that was a story about him
that I did come across, uh, maybe last year or the year before just looking for swalley
slowries and it's kind of like, what he's doing now and he's, so, he reckons winning a lottery was one

(35:04):
of the worst things that ever happened to him in hindsight because it just, because he was,
just fucked him up, you know what I mean? Um, now he, he lives a much more humble life, um,
they still get any of these winnings left, these fucking blue little, like you say.
Ah, sad times, sad times. Anyway, moving swiftly on, uh, what's your next
lorry this week? My next story is from the Scottish Sun this week, Greg. A school bus driver has been

(35:28):
charged by cops after watching porn at the wheel. Why? It's way too good home for fuck's sake.
The 54 year old was nicked by officers last week after parents in the Denhum area of the Scottish
borders reported the allegations. English based company Howard Snaith travel who operate school buses

(35:55):
for Scottish borders council confirmed that the driver's employment had been terminated with
immediate effect following an internal probe. That's a bad choice. Yeah. Uh, we told last week how
parents in the small time claimed that they had been left in the dark after claiming the council
in school had not informed them of the investigation. The council said they could not comment

(36:19):
on the latest claims due to the ongoing police investigation. A report will be sent to the proculator
of school. A 54 year old man has been arrested and charged. A report will be submitted to the proculator
fiscal, a spokesperson for Howard Snaith travel said, we received a complaint regarding one of our
drivers relating to an incident in Jadberer. We can confirm that all pre-employment checks have been

(36:44):
completed on the driver prior to him undertaking work for the company. Following an internal investigation,
the driver's employment has been terminated with immediate effect. So, um, if you're worse porn in
inappropriate place, Greg? Well, um, not intentionally, um, as what I'll say, um,

(37:06):
and I've quit it when it's popped up in the screen, I've quit it turned it off because as we mentioned
recently on the podcast, Twitter seems to have, sorry, X seems to have become like completely
unregulated as far as that kind of thing goes. So like every now and then, is this, um,
what is it? Try not to get a boner or try not to get a boner. So every, just, I mean, it's,

(37:29):
the algorithm has been a bit slow to react. Um, I have, I have marked on there, you know,
because you can say, I don't want, you can block accounts and stuff like that, but, um, so this is not
coming up as often as it was, like, rarely now, but for a while there, but I was scared to kind of
look at Twitter as an essay, was it? Oh, is it because you've favoured it? No, so it doesn't come up as often.

(37:50):
No, it's because I would like to see less of this type of thing, like sort of, you know.
I mean, like, you're driving a school bus, like, how do you, I mean, in the last episode, um,
nothing but the night available, review your podcast, the bus driver, obviously, sparking up a
bag and burns the death. Mm-hmm. This guy's watching porn at the wheel, like, how, you're driving a bus

(38:13):
for the school kids. What can tell you to be like, right, I need to watch Wankit now, right now.
Wankit now. Yeah, I seem to be talk-smoke about that in the summer, don't I? Yeah, we did,
it's quite a reference to it. I know, it's bizarre. I mean, you know, it's, uh, I don't, I don't

(38:34):
understand. It's that compulsion, right? They, I think people like, it's like, you know, often,
we have stories about, which seems to be all often, find stories about guys just sort of whanking off.
They can, then the, in public, you know, places where they shouldn't be. And I'm almost like, like,
why, you know, can I should be like, compelled, like, I just can't wait another second. Does it matter?

(38:57):
Does it matter that I'm driving the school bus? I need to watch people having sex right now.
Yeah, it does strike me as very odd. I mean, I, I don't know, on the last episode, we, um,
we discussed, I, I had a herniate operation. Yeah. And, um, so obviously, if any of that is,
is out the window for me for about six weeks, um, you'd be absolutely, absolutely, actively avoiding

(39:22):
titillating content, so the match, yes, I have been, I've been actively avoiding titillating content.
Um, I have not been able to, um, to look at anything that might arouse me in any way, shape or
for it. But like, I just can't understand the compulsion. You're driving a bus full of kids. Like,
why, like, I need to watch porn right now. I'm not, we're not saying he was having a wink at the time,

(39:46):
but why, why are you watching porn if you're not of no wink? Like, it's pointless, really.
Maybe, isn't it? Maybe just shut up, I find some, some, some, some good stuff to bookmark and watch later,
maybe? Maybe. Yeah, it's a good point actually. Yeah. But then I wonder if the kids saw it. Like,
this is quite a naked episode, really, isn't it? Uh, it is about, yeah. Yeah, I mean, obviously,

(40:08):
one of the kids is obviously has been the one that spotted it, right? Cause they've, they've blown
the whistle on them, told that. Yeah, Cassandra has looked over his shoulder to seeing him watching
two girls one cop and has blown the whistle on the teachers. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if it had been in the
1970s when nothing but the night was filmed, it had been driving with a copy of Razzle when he's

(40:32):
lapping something like that. Open it, the readers waves page. Frasil. Wow. I'm talking about that in a while.
Yeah. Well, don't think about it now. Jesus, we don't want you to do yourself a mischief on live
on the podcast. No, it's okay. I won't, um, yeah. I'm not, I'm not going to be thinking about

(40:53):
razzle for readers waves anytime soon. That's fine. Yeah. But yeah, that is our poor bus driver who has
been arrested for watching porn at the wheel. So just a warning to our listeners. If you're driving,
don't watch porn. Don't watch porn. Whatever you do. Don't watch anything. Like, I remember when,
when I lived in Q8, like quite often the taxi drivers would have the kind of body would move you

(41:17):
on on their phone, they kind of dashboard that more than one occasion had to say, like, can you just
like turn that off until you drop, until you drop? They, I don't want to fucking end up on my roof
on the roof of the, on the roof of the fucking car, you know what I mean? Because it's a bit of a
dodgy driving place anyway. Q8, whether you'd take, I was, I've never been more of there on the road than
I was, but how is driving in Q8? It's like fucking mad backs. So it is, you know, these cuts are fucking

(41:40):
watching the way his body would offering on their phones or there's the driver along. Yeah, at least
so much. You're poor. That's a main thing. Yeah. For sure. All right. Okay. Uh, have you seen anything
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dorickskateboards.com, link in the description of this episode. Okay, Greg, so it was your choice
of what we're going to be talking about on the Swally's booktacular of this episode. So what
do you tell us what we're going to be talking about today? So a couple of years ago, I wrote a
thing about Scottish horror for our website, we should consider cultureswally.com, and I came across a

(43:55):
movie that on paper looked really, really good, but then we watched it, and it wasn't very good.
That film was the Lord of Tears, still available. The podcast episode is very good, but the films
are a bit wiffy. So I thought I'd made the same mistake again with my choice this week because
it's an independent film. It was shot, it was filmed and released. I think it was filmed just before

(44:21):
the pandemic, and then it was released in November 2020. A cast of people who are not very well known,
filmed on location in Scotland, and it's called Playhouse. It tells a story of a writer played by
Richard D Grant, who wants to be well-heumholsted, and his daughter, played by Grace Courtney, who

(44:46):
moved into an isolated castle in Ketness near Wic in the far north of Scotland, which turns out to be
haunted. So, you obviously had some misgivings about that's doing this film. When I first switched it on,
I was immediately quite relieved because it's a much more professional production than the Lord of

(45:13):
Tears was, and you can see that straight away. But what did you think? Were your fears confirmed,
or did anybody pleasantly surprised? I feel quite bad about how critical I maybe was
on the last episode when you picked this, because I immediately was like, "Ah, it's got like
fucking 3.6 and IMDB, it's gonna be terrible." It wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be.

(45:37):
Yeah, it was all right. Like, give me a spooky tale in a gothic Scottish castle on an island
any day of the week, and I'll be happy. Like, this film was well shot. Like, it really, the production
value were really good. It was atmospheric, it was massively reacted in places. However, I do

(45:59):
wonder if that is part of the film, which I'll come on to later. But I didn't mind it. I would say the
first 25 minutes or so had me hooked. Like, I was quite intrigued, and I really did, I was invested
in the first 25 minutes, so slowly it kind of went downhill a little bit in places, but I did like

(46:20):
the story. But it was almost like it couldn't quite catch what it was trying to aim for in a way,
but it wasn't as bad as the Lord of the Sears. No. It was okay. Like, I did quite enjoy this film.
I have a few gripes with it, which will come on to. But overall, it was okay. I mean, it's isolation
horror, which is a big horror trope, and I guess this came out in 2020 soon. Do you then get

(46:46):
suffered from the whole fact that the whole world was in isolation in 2020? I'm not sure, because,
I mean, it was, although it had a, well, it had a confessiveau premiere, it was really straight to the
VOD platforms, you know what I mean? The kids never got into the cinema. And the thing is, like, I don't
know that, I don't know how easy it is these days to get a film like this into the cinema. Anyway,

(47:11):
to be honest, I mean, I remember when I lived in Aberdeen going to see some independent films at
the Bellman or in Bellman Street, and to an other than Glasgow, I would go and see, I saw a phone
kiss at the GFT, but it wasn't even then. I mean, that's like, early 2000s. And you wouldn't find these films

(47:33):
in anywhere old, or virgin, or the oldie and whatever. So I think it is quite difficult to get into
the cinema, you know? And then I guess it's like, well, you can, with the video and demand platforms,
you can actually reach quite a lot of people. But there's nobody in this film that's like a big name,
like I was looking at the IMDb's Grace Courtney who plays B, the daughter, who I think is actually

(48:00):
the best. She's probably the best performance in the film. I think she's really good. She's been
in Hobie City and a few things like that. And James Rockgar who plays Callum has been in a few
Scottish productions as well, small parts. He's actually in something that we covered recently,
but he just plays like a bartender. I can't remember where it was. Our ladies. Our ladies, that's it, yeah.

(48:25):
That's even recently, I was like, fucking about 18 months ago, if he was recently.
He was recently. So two years ago, I think. Yeah, so I think it is quite, I think it's tough.
This is the debut of the Watts brothers, Fion and Toby Watts. They directed it, they wrote it,

(48:45):
and they produced it. And they turned it off. The castle is actually owned by their father, so
who is apparently quite a successful, but seems muddy Watts. He's quite a successful screenwriter,
apparently. So yeah, so they've had a lot of advantages, I think, for making the film.
And I'm like, you know, I quite enjoy that. I like a good ghost story. It reminded me now and again,

(49:13):
in certain parts that reminded me of Gov. Ghost Story. The way it did two Halloween's ago,
or three Halloween's ago. Yeah. Just some elements of the kind of haunting reminded me a wee bit of,
it just put, it just put that in mind for some reason. And it's pretty succinct, it's only 87 minutes.
So wee bit slow in parts to your point. And I think the scripts are wee bit wobbly hidden there,

(49:38):
but I think apart from William Holsteads that you say is fucking really going for it. I think the
rest of the cast are good. You know, they, they, they before, they, it's, it's well acted. And, you know,
especially when they're shooting the scenery around Kate and S, I mean, it's just beautiful. I love
it when we do something, but they, they decide when we did Sunshine on Leith, and just the way that

(50:01):
they show Edinburgh. I mean, Edinburgh is fucking beautiful anyway, but, but they really, really,
show Edinburgh is best, you know, and I think they do that here in this as well. They show the
really, really show Kate and S in the beach layer. Yeah. So yeah, that's kind of, I mean, that was sort of my
feelings on it, but it is, you know, it is an independent film, quite a little budget, I would imagine.

(50:24):
I think we'll do all right. I know I've, I've harked on about it to you this week, but
whilst I've been recovering from my surgery, I watched the latest, well, the new interpretation of
Raybus. And if you want to see Edinburgh looking beautiful, yeah, watch Raybus. It's, yeah, they
fucking do the shit out of Edinburgh. Right. Um, looks, yeah, and all places that we were when we were

(50:50):
back in the summer, June, like, amazing. Yeah, I would agree. I think the location is incredible
in terms of, of looking amazing in terms of selling Scotland, like it, it does look great.
Is it a coincidence that the main character, Jack, Jack Travis is very close to Jack Torrance?

(51:11):
Like, yeah, it does have like kind of shining elements to me. And why is a haunted castle or a hotel
or a house like so popular with writers that have writer's block? Like it seems to be a trope,
in a way that, and he's come there to, to write this play and, you know, he's obviously a very successful

(51:33):
playwright because he's on the front cover of a, a Sunday supplement of one of the Newspaper Culture
magazine. Culture magazine, that's the one, yes. And so he's obviously successful in terms of,
and because Callum knows his name, he knows who he is. So he's obviously a successful writer.
But he's ended up there and he wants to create this living play in this castle, which would also

(51:58):
almost be like an immersive experience. So was Jack trying to create the famous Glasgow Wonka
experience that you so dearly love Greg ahead of time? Possibly. Yeah, maybe. Like a really
little budget haunted house. I mean, I suppose if you want, so if you want to, like,
open a haunted house to the public and you've got another real ghosts in there, then you're

(52:19):
fucking want to watch straight away.
Ben, can you at least show some excitement about all this? Forget the paint. I mean the whole thing.
This place, our new life. Didn't want a new life.
It's one of these better for us. There's something here I can feel it. Unlive.
The living play. The living play, baby. A play that has been...

(52:45):
To be experienced, not merely seen hundreds of people exploring multiple rooms or
what? Those props, costumes, sound design, and the special effects.
Actors bring history alive under one terrifying narrative.
Yeah, I'm living...
Living piece of shit.
See you later, dad.

(53:06):
I agree. There is... I mean, when you boil the shining down to its kind of bare, bare bones,
it is a haunted house story. I think there's also a little bit of like
Edgar Allan Poe, I would say as well. There's a little bit of the house abusher.
The whole conceit about the boy being bricked in behind the wall,

(53:29):
in the black cat and stuff like that, you know. So I think they are... they're taking a lot of
inspiration from a lot of places. I mean, it's not. It's definitely not the most original script,
for sure, but I mean, I really like a good ghost story and I think the ghost story in the film itself,

(53:51):
the way you're about the wee boy being bricked behind the wall because he's a illegitimate child
and all this kind of thing and sort of the horrible, layered and stuff. It's a good ghost story.
You know what I mean? It's a... and it's the whole bit about the boy supposedly making a deal with
the devil. You know, it's almost like a kind of Robert Burns sort of ghost story. You do not mean?

(54:18):
Yeah. So I thought, I mean, that was one of the strongest parts of it, I thought, that ghost story
that they sort of hang with this kind of frame around. William Holdstedt, who plays the
the main character, Jat Travis. Did he remind you of Kevin Guthrie at any point?
Well, when he came in to his daughter's room and she was sleeping.
[Laughter]

(54:44):
No, I didn't thought about that, but...
Just...
Facially, he kind of felt that at a few points, he kind of looked like Kevin Guthrie.
He's a sort of weird character, Jat Travis anyway, because he's sort of...
I mean, the film is set in the present day.
But he's... you know, he can addresses in these sort of old timey clothes, you know,

(55:05):
sort of black, the white shirt, black waistcoat, you know, the froth coat,
and stuff like that. And then there's a lot of kind of can...
There's a lot of candles being used by him at a time when it's not dark.
[Laughter]
You know what I mean? So he's...
Yeah.
I think there's a bit when he goes to explore part of the castle, because he hears a noise.
And it's obviously... it's like fucking...
The middle of the afternoon or whatever.

(55:27):
And he's got a... he's got a candle, or there's a bit when he's got...
There's another bit later on when he's carrying a sort of oil lamp.
And I'm like, "Just use a fucking torch!"
Do you know what I mean?
This is... it's... it's... it's... it's wait, wait, wait, wait.
[Laughter]
Because I couldn't work out.
Like, if the character of Jat, like, is he overacting in some ways?
Or is it because he's in a play?

(55:48):
Because he's... in his mind, he is making this play for himself.
The thing that kind of gave away from me is that at one point towards the end of the film,
he says, um, I think, uh, "Jeni" is...
It's him and Jenny are in the room together, and he says, "We're out of coal."
And then he said, "I said we're out of coal."

(56:10):
And then Callum comes in.
Yeah.
And it's almost like he's missed his cue as an actor.
Right.
And it's come kind of in.
And Jat had to repeat it.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, Callum meant, like, almost as if it was...
He was living a play in his head.
And he'd said his line.
Callum hadn't responded, so he had to say it again.

(56:30):
To give the cue, and then Callum comes in and goes and gets the call.
And it's almost like Jat was living a play in... in his light.
What's on your mind, neighbour?
I need to know what you're working on.
Who it's about.
What happens?
I'm afraid I can't discuss that with you.
Will you excuse me?

(56:51):
We're out of coal.
Leave it.
I said, we're out of coal.
[door slams]
Jenny.
Callum!
Go home.
This is between me and Jat.
Over my dead body.
Oh please, I don't want to cause any trouble.
Callum, would you be a darling and go and fetch us some more coal?

(57:16):
It's much more cheerier with a fire.
We're not here for a swarry, Jat.
Please!
Downstairs.
I insist.
[door slams]
Yeah, I mean he...
I think we're supposed to take him as being a sort of eccentric genius,
right, and of spooky and horror, right?

(57:38):
You know, um...
Yeah.
I went that bit with the coal.
I thought that was supposed to be him channeling the...
the layered, you know, the...
the kind of my leveling ghost of the layered...
You know, layered macaque?
Yeah, who's used to, um, sort of ordering servants around and stuff.
Like that, you know, like we need more coal.
But he does...

(57:59):
he kind of goes for it a bit toward the end, you know, like...
when the...
when the vase just flies off the mantle piece and smashes.
And then he's sort of lying on the floor and he's licking the broken bits of glass and laughing.
I'm like, "Yes."
I'm like, "What the fuck is happening now?"
Um, but I don't know if they had a word with them because he's actually,

(58:19):
I think he's best performance is at the end when he's finally
confronted by his possessed daughter.
And he's got all the pages of this plain stuff and we think that he's going to
get thrown at the window, you know?
He's at, you know, he...
and he's playing frightened.
Um, I think he's...
I think that's when he's at his best in the film.

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But, you know, but he's...
he's kind of...
he's quite inconsistent, you know, one minute he's a sort of...
caring, sort of, trying to be kind of fun,
dad's and get through to his teenage daughter and then he's...
possessed and then he's...
bliss, then he's that, then he's aggressive, then he's...
he's unpleasant to Jenny and Calum, um,
when they come for dinner and all that sort of stuff, you know?

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And to speak about the teenage daughter, Grace Courtney, as B,
she's fantastic.
Like, I...
you touched upon it earlier, you said that, you know,
she was probably one of the best things in the film.
I could have done with a lot more B, to be fair.
Like, yeah.
She's a moodie, sulky teen, but a really interesting character.
But I guess they had to have her disappear for the film

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so they could have the story, but I would have liked more B.
Yeah.
Like, there's another character I would have liked to have seen more of.
Which I'll come onto, but...
I'd have liked more B, but I understand why they did what they did,
but why get rid of her so early?
She was a really cool character.
Yeah, she's...
she's...

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I get it, you know, um, you know, she's...
I think her, Helen McKay, who plays Jenny, is quite good as well.
Um, you know, um, I think, in the girls that play these sort of friends from school
that have the sleepover and stuff, um, when they're having a drink and everything,

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they're both quite good as well.
So they've got all the girls, all the ladies, the female actors, I think, are...
they're the most polished, I think, in terms of the performance that they give in this film,
compared to the guys.
I mean, the only guys are really our, um, are, uh, James Rocker and William Hosted,
uh, other than that, it's all girls and, you know, like, I think James Rocker,

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like, the scenes when...
they are the scenes between him and Jenny are actually quite good, you know,
when they're sort of, they're kind of bickering and he's, you know,
and they haven't about, about, about the pulling the shed, down, everything, when he's required to,
up the ante, about, uh, up the dramatic stakes, um, especially towards the end.

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It's not quite as, it doesn't see... it seems a lot more comfortable when the lighter,
and in the times when he's called to be, to give a lighter performance, when, you know,
the scene when he can, when he confronts Jack, um, it doesn't seem quite as, sort of, looking for,
it's quite comfortable doing the dramatic stuff, and then there's that really confusing bit

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where he jumps out the window. Now, it's obvious to anybody that that is not a high window,
right, either way this shot, maybe, it's maybe six foot or something like that, but he's kind of,
he's approaching it as if he's got to jump from the top of the fucking castle. You know what I mean?
And now, I, I only watch this once, not only I watch everything twice, but I meant to go back and

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watch this scene because there's a lot of stuff on the mantel piece, like, of the, the window ledge,
so you see. And you see him considering jumping, and then he, he decides not to do it, and then he
eventually does, but then he pulls all the stuff off the second time. Did he pull the stuff off the
first time and then put it back and then pull it off again? Like, because it's like a little statue

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of a cat or something, or a candle and, and something else. Did he, did you pick up on that? Or
I didn't. He's going to go back and watch it again. Maybe just that we had, but we had it go
for sight perhaps, maybe I don't know. Maybe, but it just seemed like him like he's pulling,
he's taking this stuff off the mantel piece like again. Yeah. Like, has he, has he done that?
Um, it's funny. You mentioned, um, the, the other girls, um, Alex and Katie. And that's,

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who, like, Alex, I want to see more of her. Like, she was great. Yeah. She was fun. She was really
funny. And I like the fact that when they go down to the basement, she doesn't actually touch the wall.
Yeah. And would things have been different if she had actually touched it before B? Or would that have
made any difference if you know what I mean? Well, I thought, I thought it was meant to be that, um,

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because, um, you know, there's B and is it Alistair, the little boy, the boy that's supposed to be
behind the wall? Was it Alistair? I think, yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Um, I thought it was because they
were supposed to be sort of emotionally similar, you know, like single-parent families, you know,

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feeling isolated, feeling not, not feeling part of things. And that's why, you know, in essence, he
chose, he chose B, um, rather than any other girls. That's the way that I read it. Um, anyway.
Okay. Now, Alex, Katie and B, they're all meant to be, and I'll, someone who'll come back to, um,

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shortly, like, they're all meant to be probably about 16, 17? Yeah, I think they that she'd at school
because, is that, oh, that's what they're celebrating, right? They're all in their fucking thirties,
though. Anyway, you think so. Do you know what I think? I mean, they seem a lot older than they
are portrayed to be. Yeah. I mean, I don't think we're quite at the kind of grease scale of, like,

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35-year-old actors playing, like, 16-year-olds, high school kids. But yeah, they're definitely in their
twenties, I would say. I would say, I would put, I'd put them all in their, well, in their twenties.
So, Jack and B, they look more like a married couple, like, the first scene when he's kind of waking
up and I'm like, oh, it's his wife. Yeah. Because they look more like a married couple than a daughter

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and son, a daughter and son, a daughter and father. Yeah. So she's meant to be, what, like, 16, 17? And
she said, like, you had me before you graduated Cambridge. Yeah. So he must have been 2021. Yeah.
When he had her. So he's meant to be maybe- Wait, there it is. A late thirties? Yeah. Which he can pass for. But,

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yeah, does something a bit odd about that timeline there for me? Yeah. They do feel the wee bit too close
in age, for sure. But they do sort of, to your point, they do make an attempt to kind of address it.
Because I think one of the characters, when the character says to him, you know, wait, how old would
be when you had her, like, 15 or something like that? You know what I mean? Yeah. So they do, so I think

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they do seem to be quite conscious of it, you know? And Grace Courtney, she doesn't, you know, I guess
I stand by what I said, that she's very, very good and she's the best performance in this still.
But she's kind of got a quality that suggests she's kind of older than she is. Do you know what I mean?
There's something about her that I don't know if it's just her look or the kind of vibe she gives,

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but she does sort of, she seems older, you know, like in the way that she talks, her body language,
the way she kind of conducts herself. I tell you one thing, the dinner scene, which looks fucking great.
The way that they would, the way they frame it, you know, it's unoccasion in the castle, it feels like
it's only lit by candles. Looks great, but Callum, fucking worse dinner guest ever, right? What a

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fucking embarrassment. What? What are you talking about? If we leave in and get into the rubbish,
I thought that was quite a clever analogy of like unpacking your troubles.
It's a good analogy. It's a good analogy.
Like, if I'd inspiration, like, you know, I quite like that part.
Does this idea that we're like, we're we've been, here we go.

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I don't know, seriously. Is it this idea that we we're all just full of rubbish?
Okay, and all we need to do is just empty it and do some breathing,
stroking the guana, I listen to some whale song and back.
It's all gone. What would you do with all this rubbish instead?
Well, if we are going for the, the wheelie bin analogy, which is mine, I thank you.

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What I would say is that we need to look closely at what's in the rubbish, go through it and
find what's in there that might be rubbish. It almost seems like a character.
Like, from when you first met him, he's lying on the sofa and kind of like,

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"Ah, I don't want to go and do this." And then when it comes to that scene, he's just
talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. Yeah, that's a thing. His whole performance just seems
about uneven in that sense. You know what I mean? Because at first, we find out that he's a teacher
on sabbatical, right? They're both teachers, they're on sabbatical, they're sorting out

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heart granis, house to put up for sale. When we first introduced to Kyle and he's just lying
on the sofa watching it, and you think, "Ah, he's obviously a bit of a waste there, you know, she's..."
But she's in the garden raking something up. I'm like, "What are you raking up?"
"You know what I mean? Just like, it's just like, you need to be doing something in the garden."

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So here's a rake, just look busy for this scene. But then, like to your point, he is animated and thoughtful
in the dinner scene. After not wanting to go, like, complain about having to go in the first place.
And then when it comes to the dramatic stuff, it's like, you know, he just seems a bit at sea,
you know? Yeah, I didn't know. The character was kind of all over the place because then he's,

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then I wonder, is he absorbed into the play that he's playing? Because, like you say, the first time
you beat him, he's lying on the sofa, just watching TV. Then, a kind of laughing joke, and then he goes
up to the castle. And once he goes to the castle, the character kind of changes. Is that a part of it

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that he's kind of absorbed something? Because then he is suddenly writing a play. And he
is writing a script for something. And then he's at the castle a lot. That was something that kind of,
it was almost like a bit too much of kind of like a repetition. They always seem to be going to

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castle. Yeah, just letting them sail in. Yeah, just always back at the castle. And it's almost like,
it's like they've written something and they're like, "Oh, I forgot to put it there a bit in, but I've
just added it now." And that'll be fine. Like, it doesn't matter, it wasn't in the last scene,
we'll put it in this scene. And it did feel a little bit like, we'll just put this in now. And it'll

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be okay. No one will notice. Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I suppose when you've got, when you've
got such a fucking great set for your film, like that castle is, then you're going to, because the
whole thing is completely filmed on location, like all of it is. There's no, there's no
studio scenes in it. It's all filmed on location. But you've got this amazing picture-esque castle that's

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with all that sort of rabbit warrants and rooms and basement and loft and everything. And you know,
you want to shoot the shit out of it, right? You want to get as much action in there as possibly can.
Towards the end, when Jenny tells Alex and Katie to run, run, go now. Yeah. And they do. Given that

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we've met Alex and Katie before, would they not be like laughing? You'd be like, fuck off, you mad
dafty. Especially Alex, because she's like, you know, she's a sort of cheeky one and stuff, isn't she?
She really remains me as somebody that the actor plays her, her name's Ailee McGlucklin.
She really, really remains me as somebody that I know. And I can't think of it as, but yeah, they

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just sort of accept it. It's a little bit weak that bit to your point, because we have the really
sort of dramatic bit when Katie sort of tells Jenny what happened when B touched the wall. They're
screaming and stuff like that. And, you know, well, you need to get out of here and she just runs off.
I mean, I think, I think where they struggle a little bit is the sort of, you know, the kind of

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conclusion. At no point does it feel like any, but the closest that sort of comes to making you feel
like any of the characters or in any kind of peril is when Jack is sort of lying on his back with
that window's open and the kind of ghostly B, the possessed B is sort of standing over him. And

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that's the only time that it feels like there's any kind of, and even then you're thinking, how the
fuck is she going to throw him out that tiny window? I mean, it never feels, you know, it doesn't feel like
Jennings in any kind of danger when she's taken the sledgehammer to the wall. Although it does,
that moment I thought was excellent when she knocks the hole in the wall and she puts her hand in

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and ho, and she beholds, turns out to be B's hand that she grasps. But, you know, the stakes don't
feel very high, really at any time. And I think, you know, there's only an 87 minute long film,
they've tried to, they've tried to kind of build it up in a short space of time, but the hope
possession thing of B being possessed, it's just like one minute she's not possessed next minute she is.

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There's no sort, I thought they could have been a bit more gradual with that and sort of teased
it up a bit more. And they, you know, it would, I think it would just have made for a more, you know,
like a more exciting conclusion because, you know, they, Jenny and Calum never seem like, what the
fuck's Calum doing when, oh, he's locked in the room when Jennings, he's tracking off the wall down,
isn't he? He's locked in a living room, yeah. It's trying to jump out the window. He's trying to jump

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out the window, yeah, massive drop. And then, and then with, you know, Jack, it's not exactly clear,
you know, is he possessed by the ghost of the old lair when he locks Calum in the room, you know,
and he gets all excited about the broken fuzz and stuff like that, you know, it's just it's all just a
bit, it's just, you know, I think it, they could have just perhaps defined it a bit more and

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really made us feel like, you know, these guys, these guys might not survive this, you know, I
never felt like that at all. So that leads me to two questions that I have, I want your, your take on.
So Jack throws, towards the ending, spoiler alert, obviously, if you haven't seen the film, um,
Jack throws the script out the window at pretty much the same time. Mm-hmm. Jenny breaks down

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the wall and finds B. So which one actually broke the curse and got rid of the demon B or was
a combination of the two? I mean, I think it got to be charitable and say it's a combination of
the two. I mean, it would have been cool. I'd love to have seen that wall come down and further
to be like, like, the skeleton of Alistair in there, um, you know what I mean? Um, they, we were talking

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earlier about some of the places where they might have taken inspiration from for the film, the, um,
the ghost they possessed, uh, B, that's real, a real Japanese horror element to how they've made a
look, you know, with a CGI, I thought it feels really like like the grudge or something like that or

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like the wringoo or something like that. Um, so yeah, I would say probably, I took it as a combination
of both of the efforts. Jack's, Jack's snapping out of it and, um, and, uh, Jenny, I'm not going to hold
the wall. And my second question is, did Jack brick breathe into the wall? Well, that's a thing. They
would don't, I mean, I, so again, I read it as, because he never seems very concerned that he's

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not seen his daughter for a few days at any point, right? Yeah. But again, is that because he is possessed
by the, the malevolence spirit of the, um, layered and has, you know, has bebeen like magically put behind the
wall by the ghost of Alistair. And the classic case, Alistair is a victim, right? Why is he be, why is he

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not more sympathetic? Why is he possessing teenage girls and teleporting them into his prison behind
the wall? Do you know what I mean? And there's another, there's another uneven bit that actually did bug
me a bit. So Jenny knocks a hole in the wall and Bree's hand comes out, she takes Bree's hand, right? We
don't, the next time you see Bree, she's been, you know, she's been taken, she's out of the wall and

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we're led to think that she might not have made it, right? She might be dead. But then she's, but moments
before she held Jenny's hand. So what's happened in the moments from the rest of the wall coming down
and getting around and, and kind of, viner out in the floor to, um, to make her, so a catatonic

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can possibly dead, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's a very good point actually, I never thought about that.
Yeah, right. Again, at the very end, so as we've just discussed, like Jack fling's script out of the
window, but he's got one page left that he clings onto and he looks at it and kind of makes like a

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dramatic gesture. Is that to lead up to a sequel? What's the significance of that one page that he
has left? I don't know. I mean, I don't know what you would, I don't know how you would follow this
anyway, you know, to be fair. I mean, his, so his, I don't think we've mentioned, so the whole thing
that he wants to do is basically turn the castle into a bit of a haunted house experience, um,

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with, by, depending on the guy, kind of, living play, the people come, that's where the first,
that's where the film gets its title from. Now, he's in Wic, caveness, near Wic in Wic, which is the,
probably one of the furthest north mainland places in Scotland, if not least for this north, you know,
and his, his agent, so, you know, she, she says, well, probably most of the cast are thinking,

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most of the audience are thinking, rather, is who the fuck is going to go all the way to Wic?
You know, he's like, oh, they'll come and have holidays or stay for weeks, months. You know what I mean?
I'm like, you know, it's, you know, it's, so even if it wasn't haunted and there wasn't all these other
problems, going on in the house, it's not really a business model, is it? You know, why not? If you go
to something like that, you go somewhere accessible where people can come, yeah, you know, it takes the

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ages to get to Wic. Yeah, it's quite journey. Yeah, go Wic. Yeah, so I, I would say this film was not as
bad as I was expecting. I'd say it deserves more than the 3.6 rating out of 10 for the guess I am DB.
I think the rating, the rating I think is because not many people have, have reviewed it, to be fair,

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you know? Probably, however, I would say, like, I really enjoyed some elements and the director's
going to great job, but it's their first feature film. Yeah. And it's more than we've ever
fucking done. Exactly. And I would like to watch their next film, which is from 2023 and it's called
Black Durama. And it's about an unemployed man who buys a Japanese lucky doll to improve his

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fortunes and his life begins to unravel in terrifying ways. And that has a rating on IMDB of 9.5.
Wow, how many, how many reviews will? No. Nine reviews. Probably the cast as well. The same as them. Yeah.
Yeah, probably the cast. Is it, is it, is it a film, is it a Scottish film? I have no idea, to be honest,

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I don't know. I just looked up, but yeah, no, sure. I don't know if we can cover it in the swallow,
but we'll see. If we can, maybe it's one for next Halloween? Yeah, maybe. I'll have a look.
It's an unemployed Japanese man, so I don't know. But yeah, I'll have a look and see if he's an unemployed
Japanese man living in Goffin. We can, we can cover it in the swallow. Let's see. See what else I've done.

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So they've done a TV series called Daylemas in 2014. It has James Verity in it. I don't know what it's
about. I don't know what it's about. They've done a film called The Cruelling, which is, well, he's
produced, he's produced, he's produced, he's produced a film called The Cruelling, which doesn't have any
plot or synopsis on IMDb. So I've got no idea what it's about. Yeah, maybe the, maybe the what

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brothers are going to be like the, the guys who made the Avengers films and stuff and be like famous
brothers making films together. Kyver remember other names now, but I was thinking of the, the, the, the, the matrix, yeah.
Well, they're sisters and they aren't, they're not, they're not brothers anymore. That's a very good point.
Yeah. Yes. We are a very progressive podcast. Yes, they are sisters now. Yeah. I can't

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remember the names of the guys at the D Avengers films, but yeah, you're right. They are brothers as well.
I think they're, they've not, um, they're sort of struggled to replicate their Avengers success
with Marvel. So I believe that they're returning to Marvel to do secret wars, I think. Something
that I believe they are. In fact, are they not doing the doctorate? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

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The Ristle Brothers. That's the one. Yeah. Yeah. So, and I don't know, like Marvel's films haven't
been as popular. I haven't been as successful rather since Avengers Endgame. So I think they want
to try and recapture some of the, some of the alchemy by getting those boys back and getting down
each and your back and whatnot. Yeah. I'm truth. They'll have great success and then maybe they should

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set it in, um, in class, in a cave nest. Yeah. In a haunted house. Yeah. In a haunted house. Yeah.
Yeah. Exactly. Can be Dooms. Dooms. Castle can be, uh, the castle. Um, interestingly, the castle that
they use for playhouse is, so you can stay there. It's called the castle of park. And if you want to

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stay there, you can get in touch with the Van de Mark trust. Um, it is, uh, somewhere you can go. It's,
um, it's been someone's home. Um, and I would say they're Greg. No, stay far away. Um,
and apparently, uh, this is on IMDB, I don't know if that's true, but apparently during the shoot,
one of the crew members back then to a candle would set himself on fire. Fortunately, unharmed,

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but he still wears the burnt jacket as a conversation starter by all accounts. Yeah. Lovely.
That'd be a good conversation starter. Would you use that as a, a conversation starter?
If you're writing about, it's like, oh, yeah, this jacket is burnt. Yeah. We're out of this for my
was making a film called, uh, called, uh, playhouse. Um, uh, I see. Would you use that? Uh, no, I don't

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think so. And that is if you're on a, on a boat wearing a choose live t shirt, would you use that as a
conversation starter? Well, I had to last night a couple of times, um, because, like, inexplicably,
one or two people on the boat didn't get it and then understand where the t shirt came from.
Did they think you were dressed as raw-scaler? Yeah, maybe. Does it, does it say, is, oh, he's got the

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Frankie says relaxed t shirt. Oh, yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're right. That's what I should have
got instead, because nobody would have thought of that. I, you know, it was, I don't think anybody
would think of the choose live t shirt either, but I was quite surprised and I saw somebody had done,
but, uh, next time I'll get a Frankie says relaxed t shirt. How many pints?
Holly? I don't know. I mean, this, I don't know how many pints, Holly's,

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Holly's had pumped out his stomach to ask for a hunting mory. Right. Right. Let's put, let's put,
put playhouse through our swallowing awards. That's a spectre. Exactly. What was I about to say?
Yes. Running out of steam here somewhat. Yeah, you know, I mean, I know we've kind of made,
we've kind of made fun of the film a little bit today, but, you know, it's a, it's a good,

(01:22:53):
independent film set in Scotland decent, yeah, great, good production, nice cast, some good
performances, um, definitely worth 87 minutes of anybody's time. No, I'd highly recommend it. You said
it was available on Apple, um, I find it on daily motion. Oh, I was out there. I rented it off Apple

(01:23:14):
for five pints. Yeah. No, it's available on daily motion for free. Oh, yeah. I can find it there.
Oh, well, so if you want to watch it, that's weird. You can also, you can also rent it off Amazon as well.
Um, right. So the first one to, the first two awards are usually the Bobby the Barman award for
the best pub and the James cause more award for being in everything Scottish. Now there are no

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pubs and, you know, I know well known actors, um, I think the closest one would probably be James
Rutger just because he's been in a few things in small parts. I went for him because he's been in
Gary Tank Commander, River City, Our Ladies, The Nest and Scott Squad. So he was my choice in terms of

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the cost more award. The next one then is the Jake McQuillin Your Tees Out Award. Interesting to
hear what he shows for us. I went for Jenny smacking Jack with the small statue of, was it a gargol or a devil?
Yeah, I'm not sure what it was, but yeah, I went with that. I had to stop with all of that. That's

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why I had to. They debit with me try to shangular with the, with the hammer. Um, next then, the,
well, next then would usually be the unique regular award for good truth is nudity, but everybody
keeps their clothes on because it's fucking cold in case next. Yeah. Uh, it's a windy, I don't think I
can't see our, our, our natureless pals doing a skinny dip on that beach, so I'll, although Catherine

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in her red dress, did come quite close. Do you know how I, as well, I, I, I follow, uh, BBC archive, um,
on Facebook, because they often show like some quite interesting clips and videos of like old BBC,
usually documentary programmes and stuff going back. And there was one I saw today, um,
with a, a TV presenter, he was talking about how Brighton became a seaside holiday place. And

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there was because this guy called, uh, Dr Donald Russell or something, he basically started selling
the sea water, telling people that it was, it would cure all the omens. So they, they sort of re-created
a kind of Victorian well to do a person getting into the sea. So they've wailed one of these sort of
changing rooms and wheels into the sea. And our woman is trying to coax the guy out. Now I'm,

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I'm assuming that this was all in probably six, seven PM early evening on the BBC in the mid-70s.
The woman's wearing a sort of slip, right? As she's trying to coax them out. She has nothing on
underneath it. Like, nothing on. And there's a couple of moments. I mean, they do, it does feel like
they are trying to shoot it so you don't see her breasts. But you see her breasts quite thoroughly.

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I'm like, fucking hell. Different time in the 1970s in the BBC. Next then, the Frank Bagway award for
Catrote is swearing. Not a particularly sweary script. But I went for, Calum just because it made me laugh.
Like it has first seen, um, in, we should wear, we're, I think Jenny says to me, is, is Wic too cold
and windy for you? And she says, no, it's too boring and shite. Which made me laugh. I wanted to go for,

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um, I went for Jack who is kind of a spirit animal. As he says, I want to be left alone to do whatever
the fuck I want. Yeah. Uh, would that be all good? Um, next then, the archetypal Scottish moment.
It's got to be a haunted Gothic castle in an isolated island. Yeah, I'm sort of on the same

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lines as you. I went, I went, I've kind of gone for two things. Like the, the ghost story. It just feels
like a real, like, I've read a, I read a book about Scottish ghost stories like a few years ago. Um,
and this, like, the ghost story feels very authentically Scottish. Um, and then the next, I just
put the scenery, you know, it's, it's sort of an archetypal Scottish scenery. And then I think

(01:27:14):
I know your answer to this one then. The big time award who, who wins the film for you? Yeah,
it's Grace Courtney. Yeah. Um, yeah. Uh, unfortunately she's not in it enough. But Grace Courtney
definitely won too. She's, she's really good. I would give, I would give, I want to sort of silver
metal to Heather McI though. I think she, she plays a really good part. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

(01:27:36):
So then that is Playhouse. As well said, you can, if you want to watch it, you can find on Daily Motion
for nothing, um, or you can rent it off Apple or Amazon. Uh, yeah, quite a good, but spooky Halloween.
Teal, but it was my choice. Playhouse, which means that it comes back to you for our next,
our next episode of What We Going To Watch? Well, it's not back to me, Craig, because, uh, next time we

(01:28:00):
have something slightly different, uh, well, some slightly very different for the next episode. So
we are going to do a listener request for the next episode of the Swally, uh, for the Swally
Sputacular. And it breaks a few rules because it's not really Scottish, and it's not a set in
Scotland, but it does feature a very famous Scottish actor, and the actor is called Angus,

(01:28:25):
and he was a killed. So this film, uh, was chosen by our listener Olivia, who is from the US,
and she's a massive Peter Capaldi fan. And she suggested that we cover this film, uh,
starring Peter Capaldi, Amanda Donahue, and Hugh Grant, and directed by Ken Russell,

(01:28:46):
when an archaeologist uncovered a strange skull in a foreign land, the residents of a nearby town
begin to disappear, leading to further inexplicable occurrences. It is, of course, 1988, the layer of the
white worm. Awesome. I think I watched them, I think I recommended it to you, but I watched a documentary

(01:29:08):
series about British film. A few weeks ago called Real Britannia, which is very good. Oh yeah,
and I think this showed a wee clip, I've never ever seen a there of the white worm, but I think this
showed a wee clip of it because like a very, very quick clip of it, because they were talking about Ken
Russell, who obviously has made some fucking absolutely mental films over the years.

(01:29:30):
And if you've ever seen the Divels, I mean, it's still, oh yeah, yeah, it's still fucking a brutal
film to watch, even now it's not, it's not softened with, it's about 50 years old, and it still is
horrific as it was, I imagine it came out. So yeah, I think this should be flash of the
veil of the white worm on that, so I'm quite intrigued to watch it. Have you seen it before? No,

(01:29:54):
never seen it before. No, okay. It'll be an introduction to me. So it'll be a good episode that we've
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I was good when I both not seen it before, I think, yeah, yeah,
but don't worry, I've got something very Scottish picked up for the next episode.
Oh, good, yeah, so I don't know. Do you have the white worm? Let's do it next time.

(01:30:15):
Thank you very much for listening everyone. If you'd like to follow us, you can follow us on
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(01:30:39):
visit us at cultureswally.com, quite a nice little piece there, but Scottish horror. For this time of
the year, if you want to come to that read, a little bit about Tamil Shanta and so on the other,
Scotty, Sony Bean and all that kind of stuff. So come and give us some traffic. Wonderful,
right, I'm off to go and watch Aberdeen probably lose to hearts, and what are you doing with your

(01:31:02):
Sunday afternoon, Greg? I don't know, as I've been sitting here, so my little broom cupboard,
when I record the Culture Swally is at the front of the house, so as I've been recording, I just saw
my wife and daughters get into the car and drive away, I don't know where they're going,
so I might take the opportunity just to line the sofa and watch whatever the fuck I want on the
tele until it's back. Can have a nice lazy, wankin' water, isn't it? There we go, it'll be easy. All right,

(01:31:27):
well, I'll see you next time. Until the next time.
What do you want, Jack?
What do I want?
I want to be left alone to do whatever the fuck I want! You peasants!

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