Episode 121 - The Nightmare Man (1981) - The Culture Swally

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Hello and welcome to The Culture Swally, a podcast dedicated to Scottish news and pop culture.

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My name is Nicky and I'm joined as always by the man, who can often be found hiding
in the woods making strange noises? It's Greg! How are you today buddy? Hi then the woods
making strange noises over discarded pornography from 30 years ago that's gone on and discovered
like a like a pair of air in the anodones, a pair of our Indiana Jones nice call back to

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something that wasn't mentioned on the pod but was mentioned in our whatsapp group. How's
everything going? How are you today man? I'm very well, yeah, end of the week for me, wow,
and for you, it's Friday although a bit closer to the end of the week because I'm a few
hours ahead of you here and Dubai. Well, yeah, been a busy week looking forward to a fairly
undemanding weekend. Well, but you're very nice. Yeah, I'm okay, I'm recovering, still

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not 100%, but getting there, which is a thing in terms of year and all that jazz, but
yes, definitely getting there. So yeah, no, I'm okay. As you say Friday, I've had a productive
day, all's good, we're recording now and yeah, I was going to go watch a film later and then
I've just realised that I've still got the last five episodes of Cobra Kai to watch.
Oh, that's right, I keep out your last week, so yeah, I'm going to watch as many as I can this

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evening until I fall asleep, so we'll see, but they're okay, they're normally about 35 minutes,
so yeah, I reckon I can probably, I mean, say I'll probably do four, but you can't do four.
You have to watch the fifth one because it's the last one, so yeah, so yeah, because
it's the last ever one, so yeah, I don't know, all good. Yes, looking forward to a nice
relaxing weekend too, which will be very good. And no, I was going to say I was laughing at,

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obviously, the news in Scotland yesterday was this possibility of the, before the company
that owns the 49ers, the American football team in the US buying Rangers, the Rangers and
the Rangers. That somebody, I think I might have stuck it in our group, somebody put the clip

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up on Twitter or X rather of the tune the fat sketch for the two and make the two guys come
back to Scotland from America and the title was The Loud and Tavern next year. There's
those guys in ordering at the bar. I'll have a big ol' bucket of Buffalo Wings, you'll
take two, a pint of two toasties like every other company. I can't imagine there's going

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to be many San Francisco 49ers fans that are going to be coming to support Rangers.
I mean, they can, they can, they can play separate, you know, the, the company that I work for,
we are doing, we think, the, there's a company from the, the US called baseball United and
they own, we would call them teams, right, we would say like the own a few teams, but they

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call them franchises because obviously it's the most, it's the bizarreest thing to me,
how a local team, I think like the Dodgers did it, right, the Dodgers started off in New
York, didn't they, and then they went to like Los Angeles, you know, because the franchise
just moved across the country, maybe it wasn't the Dodgers, but it happens, right, with American

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sports teams, they go from one city to another sometimes, and it's just, it's weird, I find
it weird that they call them franchises, but anyway, they've set up a few franchises here
in the Middle East because they're trying to launch baseball in the United Arab Emirates
and the wider region. So they asked us to do, like, the company that I work for, so they

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asked us to do some sponsorships. So I went to my first ever baseball game last week.
Oh yeah, I was saying some pictures, I really enjoyed it, but what was bizarre? Why didn't
me guys? It's because the baseball United are a massive company and so they, they were broadcasting
in like a hundred countries. And also live on YouTube and because we were, because we're

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sponsoring, they've very kindly invited me further in the VIP experience, so we're sitting
right behind the plate. And for anybody who doesn't follow baseball, that's really better,
just like the fans who try to hit the ball. So my mug was on the TV. So if you were watching,
who was at the Arabi Attigers versus the something falcons last week, and you're wondering,

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what I look like, you might just have seen it there, you never know, I've ever seen it.
Oh, that's a good man, really nice. But you know, I, but exactly, it's about, it's about
fucking time. But, no, I enjoyed it. It was, I wasn't sure, I thought it's quite long baseball,
I will say, quite long. I wish that I left a car at home because I think baseball is a sport

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to be enjoyed with a few beers, you know, and certainly some of my fatal spectators were
indulging mainly because the booze was laid on for those VIPs and they were getting right
into it. And I was kind of like, I think I'd be enjoying this more if I was, maybe I only
had one beer, but I think I'd have enjoyed it more if I was like a few pints in, you know,

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but I still we'd enjoy it. Yeah, I remember a good, when the baseball game I went to, I went
to Boston and I saw the Red Sox and that was just after, it was, it was the day I've tried
arrived in Boston, which was of course my famous getting upgraded to first class story,
yeah, yeah, which I did not sleep on that flight because I wanted to enjoy every moment of

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it, but I did end up tanning about three bottles of red wine. Yeah, I arrived and my friends were already
at the hotel and there was a wine reception, so and then we ended up going to a pub and then a nightclub,
I was fucking battered. Yeah. And I went to the baseball game and that's the, the only time I think
in my life, my friend looked over my shoulder and burst out laughing because I was googling,

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can you die from a hangover? Because I genuinely felt I was dying. Yeah, oh, I know I was
fuck, that's the worst I've ever felt. Like my, my fucking kidneys were in agony and I just felt
awful, but then I had three hot dogs and four beers and I felt right as ring. It was so good.

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But yeah, you're right, it is, well, to go back to what you were saying, yes, you're right, it was
the Brooklyn Dodgers that moved to LA. And it is fucked up because that's the, the reason, like,
I had no longer really, I used to, I used to be basketball daft when I was in, like, a early teenager.
I used to love watching the NBA and I was a big Seattle Super Sonics fan because they had a

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player called Sean Kemp and I have, I've still got my Kemp son X jersey. But and even after he left,
I still supported the Sonics and still watched basketball and then, yeah, they relocated the franchise
to Oklahoma and became Oklahoma City Thunder and I've never really watched NBA since.
Yeah. So, but shitty. But then to go back to Rangers, I did see this photo online of, I've

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essentially this, um, of the minute of viewing people outside and someone said, what the fuck's
bungal doing, uh, side-eye blocks? But why, I love it, there's a guy waiting on massive fur coat,
saying he's a Rangers fan, but he's got a fucking cross-rounder's neck. It looks like, it looks like he's

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just come from a party, dressed as Don King and he's quickly, he's quickly washed the shoe polish off
his face and he also looks like he's standing next to Pete Townsend. I thought he'd look a bit like Ian
Boulson. Oh, yeah, that's a lot, yeah, that's much better, it's a lot more like, uh, but I love how
they get says at the top, I broke, so then just Rangers fans, you know, random guys, how bizarre.

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Yeah, so I did love that, um, but yes, let's see. Let's wait and see what happens with the,
the 49ers and the glass cow rangers. I'm sure the, the iBrox faith will be hoping for a man city,
like Phoenix rise on the wave of millions and millions of dollars, but I don't think that these

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American companies are as, I don't want to say, maybe it is recklessness as like these big rich
Arabs, because these big rich Arabic companies are, are a bit guy, so don't have any shareholders.
You know what I mean, it's just, yeah, I got fucking millions and millions of dollars. I think I'll invest in
a football team in the UK, you know, when they just, and they pick one and they do it, whereas the

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merit, these big American companies are like, usually IPOs, so they can't, they can't be frivolous,
they'll, they'll be looking at it, they'll be looking at Rangers and thinking, right, how can we make
some money out of this club in the same way that these, these other companies have done like,
they're pulled at the grazers, they've been man United and all that, you know, they won't be thinking,
I want to lift this club up and pull it back to it at what, it's the work of a fuck of a bit of that.

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No, I mean, I'm, yeah, I'm hoping the same that they've come in to just asset structure and look
at it, but anyway, so, right, shall we have a look? What assets, what assets, like the fucking, like the,
the, the, the face painting set that's sitting on a shelf in the fucking hospitality bar,

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the last thing the club still owns outright, and early learning centre face painting set,
it's been used once, still hasn't been paid for it. Yeah, yeah, the blue, the blue and the orange
is all used up, sorry, sorry, sorry, there's only red and white left. Yeah, anyway,

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right, let's move on, right, shall we have a look at what's been happening in Scotland over the
last couple of weeks? Cure the jingle. Hello, this is the Outdoor Heavilys Broadcasting
Co-operation, and here is what's been going on in the new. Okay Greg, what have you seen in the

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news over the last couple of weeks you'd like to share with me and our lovely listeners? Well,
you know, you know me, and I don't know if this is perhaps symptomatic of my generation,
but I enjoy a bit of shit, how's the rate? I can't, I can't, but, I know that it's not a very fashionable
thing to laugh at, in sweat, in sweat, in sweat, five, you know, and I'm sorry if anybody's offended,

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but it just really made me laugh. So this came from the Scottish sun on the 18th of February,
and the headdiner's crossed the line, reckless prankster leaves 10 K runners baffled after
ripping down signposts and sending them, sending them the wrong way, exhausted participants were forced,
were forced to run further as they battle to finish the finish, as they battle to find the

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finish line. Sometimes it's a language that makes me laugh more in these articles than the actual
events, you know, that they describe. So around 150 people took part in the Castle milk trail race
in Glasgow on Sunday morning last week, but at the send didn't it chaos? After the route was changed

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by a mystery joker around the 9k mark, the rogue race rep, lovely bit of a litteration there,
buried the large arrow that had been used as a guide in posts, fucking hell, in posts as a martial
to encourage runners to carry on the wrong route into a nearby park. It resulted in

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exhausting, exhausted participants running further as they battle to find the finish line.
Event organizers have blasted the mischief maker for endangering runners, although nobody was injured
as a result of the change of route. They have also offered a 50% discount for an event in Glasgow's
Lin Park next month, who anybody who felt impacted by the joke. In a statement, a spokesperson

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for organizers Acon Trail said, "Toward the end of the route, a member of the public,
took it upon themselves to bury a large, to bury a large,
large, real, arrow." This guy's like completely committed to this shit housery. By the way,
like completely all in, bury in a large, real, arrow and then moved a smaller one to change

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the direction of the route. They then imitated a martial,
and pointed runners in the incorrect direction. The pettingness endangered runners,
taken them away from the safety of a marked and martialed course. Not as if they directed
them off a cliff or something. It's a fucking castle milk. It would be more dangerous if

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we directed into the streets of castle milk, you know what I mean? Enforced them further
into the park towards the road and away from any first aid provision they could have
potentially required. It makes me rather angry that anyone could be so reckless.
I'm also disappointed that Anisey fix for this, an actual Acon Trail's Marshall,
deployed at this spot would have alleviated the issue. That's our fault,

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and one for which I wholeheartedly apologize. We have limited resources at our disposal,
but ultimately it's my decision as to where the deployed. In hindsight,
it seems I got this location incorrect, and it needs more than course marking to assist runners.
It's hard to factor in an interference, well, that, I think that's fair to say,
but again, you would expect somebody to go that far. From mischievous folk,

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and this was a spot we didn't think would have such an issue. The statement added,
"If you feel your race enjoyment and experience today was negatively impacted by the
center of interference, we'd like to offer you a 50% discount on your entry to the Lin Park
trail race on March 16th, and hopefully the majority of you had a positive race day experience,
and enjoy the trails that we love. What a route."

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And this is, you know, you got to love about a Scottish social media. One said,
"I was one of the chosen few that was misdirected. Give me a good story to tell at my post-race
recovery session." Already signed up for the Lin trail. Thanks for the discount offer,
but more than happy, it paid normal price as I get so much out of your event. Well, that's nice.
Another added honestly, "Impossible for you to take account of idiots. Why anybody would do this

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is beyond me." I mean, you know, they would do it because it's a laugh, isn't it? Yeah. It's just a
bit of a laugh. So, yeah, sorry for making fun. It did make me giggle if you're listening,
and you're one of the runners that was recklessly forced into a park can had to run a bit
further to get to the finish thing. I'm sorry, but at least if it was first time you did a 10k,
it might be the first time that you did an 11k or even a 12k. So, go, I accentuate the positive.

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Let me think about it. It's a bit of a laugh, isn't it? Come on. I think, I mean, I'd be pissed off,
I think, but I'd see the funny side of it. Like, come on, it's just a bit of a jate, but I mean,
I guess, well, we're both runners, although I prefer quite a while, but you'd be pissed off a little bit,
wouldn't you? Or, but you then you'd see the funny side. Yeah, I think, I think, you know, I think I

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could probably see the funny side. I mean, I did a 10k in January, and the funny thing is, like,
when I was starting to get my distance up when I was sort of training for the 10k, once I got over 5k,
actually running, and I got running past 5k, it seemed to be sort of easy enough to get to 6 and
to get the 7, and so, you know, as I was building up in my sort of distance, I would sort of stop at 7,

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and I'd be like, I could still keep going, you know what I mean, because I planned my route, so I was
like, almost home, it didn't sort of make any sense to then go in front of it further, so I just had
to sort of plan it so I could stretch out a bit. The hardest thing I think was getting to 5k,
I think, once, when you read that, when you read, when you realize, sort of mentally that you can do
5k, I think it opens up the possibilities of going further and further, you know? I mean, there are a lot

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of people, I'm like, I couldn't give a shit in terms of what I've run in terms of timing or any of that
jazz, but I know a lot of people do take it very seriously, and I can imagine maybe a lot of people
have been looking forward to this 10k, they're trying to beat their PB, they're trying to, you know, run as
fast as they can, and they're hoping to achieve something, and then this guy is just kind of fucked them,

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but they might have achieved an even better PB as a result of his joke.
This is what I'm talking about, you got to accentuate the positive, this might be the first time
doing 10k, and they might actually have ended up doing the 11 or 12k because of the joke,
and got in one further than they've ever ran before, so you got to look for the positive, you know?

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I mean, I think it's a brilliant joke, and it's just a jpe, I could never do something like that,
I feel bad, you know, if someone stops me and asks for directions, I'll give them directions
of a new world, and then I worry about it for the next 5 minutes, thinking,
"Did I give them the right directions?" And then I genuinely think, I hope they found where they were going,
and I don't know, so I would feel too bad doing something like that, but it's fucking great shit,

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I honestly, I have to, I have to, and just fucking, I take my hat off to them, the
organisation that obviously went into that, because as you're saying, it's not just a case of
they've just turned up and are directing people out this way, they've gone to effort of putting posts in,
thinking stuff, so there's planning and stuff, and it's gone into the effort of burying a scene,

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you know what I mean? The thing that I like about these, and they can all, it's, I guess, it could
be interpreted as sort of, like, cruel or nasty humour, it's a sort of stuff that we grew up with,
but the thing that, oh, the thing that makes me laugh about it, it's not necessarily even the
the prank itself, it's the sort of, full outrage that people, you know, people just,

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these keyboard warriors, they have to get on to the, either the forum under the article or
on the social media blasting the irresponsibility of the pranks, there are not all that kind of thing,
there's, there's this sort of, like, misplaced righteousness that a lot of, that they, quite a large
percentage of, I would say a certain generation of people feel compelled to do, when you see

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like a prank which, you know, all right, it did take them away from first aid and stuff, and
potentially something could have happened, and you know, it wasn't aids near enough to get to the
person, so I get, I accept that, but, you know, in the end of the day, no harm, no foul, right?
Everybody was okay, it's either the article, they all made it back, um, I don't think anybody was at

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that bother about it, certainly, I'll, but whether it be at that, none of the runners were as bothered
about it as the people who have gone online to fucking, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and,
you know, online and stuff, so. Yeah, people have forgotten how to have a laugh nowadays,
to, to do, I mean, you're not meant to laugh at other people's misfortune nowadays, fuck off,
it's hilarious. And I guess people are maybe, I know, because this is, this isn't just a,

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a shit house, this is fucking pre-meditated shit house today. The best type is the planning that
has gone into this is another level, and that's what, and I bet a lot of those people that are
pissed off, or just pissed off, they didn't think I'd do it in this first, that is fucking brilliant.
I, I think it's fucking brilliant. It'll be, it'll be, it'll be like a big, like, overweight guy that

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couldn't run the, that couldn't run the length of himself, going online, and oh, I think this is
disgusting, and well, what if this is happened, what if that happens? You know, as he sits there,
and he's, you know, in the sofa, he's laptop, and he's poigee legs, and he's bucket of KFC with the
poigee arms of the, then, there's a, I know exactly he means, like, I, that posts on the Aberdeen

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fold him. I mentioned that quite a lot in this podcast, and you can tell he's, he's described
himself a few times, he is a bit of a fat miserable, can't, but I think he's, he's losing about
weight now, because he's got a new job, he's just starting working as a, as a traffic warden. Um, so
obviously it suits him down the ground, and he's always moaning about the most random stuff,
but the thing is, you kind of think, is this a parody, but no, he's being serious, and I was a thread,

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like holidays, where people would go on holiday and speaking about asking for tips, and he's always
on there, it's got, I just don't understand why people go, and he can't understand why people would
like live abroad and stuff. He's like, people should just stay where they're from, people should
just stay in their own bit. That's like, he's, he's from Brody Ferry, and he's just like, people should
just stay where they're born and rage that's it. And it's not going to do emigration or anything,

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it's more to do with people leaving, like, he just doesn't understand why people go on holiday and
go to different places, just, just staying your own bit, it's got everything you need. But he's
never seen Brody Ferry in his sports Aberdeen, so I, but actually he's got, it's got, it's got
like a 90 minute commute to pathology, I don't think the fact prick goes to games mate. Anyway,

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that was my first story this week, which you're, what you got for us. We often, sometimes say this
in the podcast, when you soon as you read the headline, you think, I'm having that, this is for the
Swally. This is from the Daily Record this week, Greg, quick fit manager suspended over video of
karaoke with customers sex toy. Okay, so a quick fit manager has been disciplined after performing

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a karaoke session with a customer sex toy as a photo or the company's historical, Greg. I know it's
not great podcasting, but I'm going to send you this photo because it's fucking hilarious. And it
should just be on its way to you right now. Fucking hell. The prank at the repair centre in

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Dalkeeth, Midlothian is alleged to have been carried out in front of another customer, but the joke
wasn't seen as funny by quick fit bosses who launched an investigation. The employee was slapped
with disciplinary action for a breach of a customer's privacy and trust. The incident on November
last year emerged and a whistle blower has also revealed that the centre was carrying out services

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improperly, which resulted in customers being contacted and jobs being redone. The whistle blower
said, "The video was circulated of a manager, singing into a sex toy, taken out of a customer's car,
in front of another customer." How can you trust quick fit when they're grabbing your personal
items out of your car instead of putting you back on the road safely? Going through customers cars

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is strictly a breach of their privacy and company regulations. The incident came after a member
of staff highlighted that his name was being recorded on jobs that had been carried out while he was
on holiday. The former employee claims that a junior member of staff was doing the jobs he
wasn't properly qualified for. He also said there were irregularities with wheel alignments
and said that, "Yeah, now, not only is this unfair on me, as any mistakes by untrained,

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I don't care about the search, whatever you do about the sex toy." After being approached with
Dalkeeth, a quick fit of mid claims have been investigated. A spokesperson says, "We're
able to waited the video of an employee behaving inappropriately in one of our centres." As soon as
we saw the video, we began an investigation and have taken formal action in line with company protocol.
On the servicing claims, this spokesperson said customers have been tracked down after some work

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was not done correctly, and they said we were aware of claims made by an ex-employee regarding
service. Quick fit, obviously, we'd like to say that they always do jobs well and everything is
above board, and they've taken action for any irregularities. That's boarding. We'll see you
about the sex toy. To describe the photo, it's a big old boy. I think it's a magic wand, I think

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that's called. It looks like a microphone, basically. I can see why, and the boots open, he's obviously
gone in the boot, seen this dildo, and decided to sing into it. Similar to the first story, Greg,
first of all, I think that's fucking hilarious. And exactly what you're going to do.
Second thing I'm thinking is the top of that is very close to his mouth, isn't it? And

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you've got a wonder where that, I mean, I think we all know where that's been. I do wonder,
I mean, it doesn't matter if the customer was attractive or not, of course, but you have to wonder,
you know where that sex toy is being? Are you going to put it that close to your mouth?
By the way, I think it's fucking hilarious that he's just singing up and he's striking a pose.
Yeah. Whilst he's singing, "Cariokay," I don't know, I don't know what he's singing, which I'd like

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to know. These are the things we need to know daily, Greg, I don't care about fucking wheel alignment,
I want to know what he was singing in the video. What could be singing, "Turn and Japanese" by the
vapors, maybe, something like that? Yeah, that's a sex toy, maybe. Yeah. I don't know. He's kind of,
the way he's got his hand, he's cruelling, I think. I think he's maybe singing about,
"Witwitwit," like, "Mortypello." So, "Witwitwitwit," would be singing, yeah. I mean, I think the first

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question is, who's just got a sex toy loose in their car? You know what I mean? That is a very valid
question, Greg, who does have a dildo in their boot? Yeah. You would put it in something, surely.
Well, I'd give it a clean if nothing else. Well, yeah, he's out of it.
You want to keep it clean, I would imagine. And I think it's fair enough if it was in the boot,

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because maybe it was fixing the spare tire. Spare tires often kept in the boot, especially if it's
one of those shady little fucking half-tire ones, we can only go 50 kilometres and never to get to the
garage. Oh, no. I mean, he's obviously been servicing or doing something in the car. He's not
like raking around. It's not like he's, he's found it in a secret apartment. It's obviously been
lying in the boot. You see, Niz, and you know what? We'd be the same though, if the machine were working

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at Quickfit. And why, I just kind of have fucking Ronald Valer's sketch in the head now. If we're
working at Quickfit and we open the boot and there's this fucking magic one sitting there, I guarantee either
of us are going to pick it up and either we're going to chase each other with it or we're going to
pretend it's a microphone and start singing. Yeah, I mean, I noticed these wearing gloves in the

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picture there. Yeah, perhaps a, perhaps a sensible precaution. I think it would be leaving it places.
You know, like in the office when the second series of the office when the girl gets a vibrator
for her birthday and they hide it in Brent's office under a notebook, it comes out like, what am I
doing in there with this? Just, just, just, just, who's he got in the office? Is the people

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the motivational speaking? And he finds it and he goes, is that yours? To the woman.
I could remember if it was the motivational speaker people or if it was his boss with the lady with
the black hair. I don't think it's her. No, I think, but you're right. You're definitely right. I just

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couldn't exactly think who it was. But yeah, there'd be that sort of thing because if our mutual
friend was working with us as well, he would be the butt of many magic one joke, you know,
in the beginning, we get put in these packed lunchboxes and stuff like that, getting tucked in beside
these sandwiches. What am I doing in the real estate? So again, I think it's a harmless joke that is

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just fucking art. I mean, it's just, people are just fucking miserable bastards nowadays, aren't they?
Yeah, what's wrong with that? It's not a fun. If you work and I don't think it matters. If you work
in an office, on a garage or a bar or a restaurant with a team of people, and if you largely get on

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quite well with that team of people, you're going to be the, you're going to look for ways to just
brighten up the day a little bit. Yeah, you know what I mean? And just to find in a vibrator
undiscipline a bit of a car when you're when you're trying to get the spare tire out. I mean, that's
just a gift from the, that's just a gift from the gods, you know what? That's going to kill hours,

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hours of the afternoon and be spoken about for fucking months. And then some art soul goes and
sticks them in to the quick fit management. And now the poor guys been disciplined just for having
a bit of crack. You do anything though to have a bit of entertainment at work. I mean, I remember
years ago, I mean, it was working in an office and me, my colleague decided one of our other colleagues,

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it was like, right, let's try and get as many titles of simply red songs in the conversation with
Craig, the new voices. And this went on for hours. And, you know, just like, you know, the, the
the fairgrounds. It's like something. And Denise, the colleague I was doing it with was like,

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oh, yeah, how you saying things? I just wondered, are you doing that for your babies? And it just,
it just went off on this. And then he did, he was like, what are you two up to? Because he started
getting suspicious. Now he was just cracked up laughing. And he was like, I'm not like this. I'm so sorry,
buddy. I don't know. Somebody got me started. And that was it. We just erupted. And then he was like,

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do you edit it for entertainment to try and make your life better? So of course, if you don't in the
boot of a car and you see this magic once, of course, you're going to pick up, look at this, boy,
yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've told the story on the podcast before about the corruption of the many

(29:25):
pizza pitches, the pizza hot mascots that recorded your voice. Let me just, yeah, swore into them.
So when the kids got them in pizza hot, if this was a stomach, they would be met with a, a
badge of abuse. And then the kidnapping of the pizza push outfit, you know, it was just a laugh.
And I remember, so I remember one of the waiters put in the pizza push massive overshoes on and

(29:50):
just doing his whole shift in these massive shoes. And I should say that I didn't work for a pizza hot.
They were next door. I worked in the vest store. We just shared a, we just shared a storage space. But
yeah, they did the canator or shift in these massive pizza push mascot caution overshoes with a
completely straight face. You know what I mean? It wasn't even like gambling around. They

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chatted with people like, if it was just doing his shift in the night, I could see like his guests sort of
looking at it and he didn't like, I think it wouldn't have to. I'm like, ask them what he was doing.
They were just going, oh, they're my shoes. It's all going to get you for your appetizers. You know,
just for a laugh. It's got to be done. So long, it's a fucking long day. It works sometimes. Yeah.
Especially if you're working at somebody like that, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I'm a harmless

(30:35):
fan, but poor bastard disciplinary action. Someone's reported him shocking. I can do it quick for
it. Guys shouldn't be going into boots. So that's an invasion of privacy. Well, not when you're
fucking spare tires in the boot. I can see, I can see the point they're trying to make its customers'
property. And I wouldn't be happy if it was something. I don't know if it was in the glove balls.

(31:00):
Something precious. Why are you touching this? But then why have you got in the boot? You're
car if you're not in the quick fit. And two, it's a fucking dildo. It's just asking to be picked up.
Like, come on. Yeah. Anyway, let's move on. What else have you seen this week, Greg?
So I feel this is right on brand. This comes from the daily record on the day it's not as easy

(31:25):
to find in the day the record this week, which is the last week of February, second last week of
February. And the headline is, "Scott's name best films and TV shows till then about Scottish culture."
So people in Scotland have shared their recommendations from the top. Television shows and films to
watch till they're in about our precious culture. As anyone from Scotland will know, there are plenty

(31:47):
of things that might look a bit strange to people who have not lived in Scotland. Sometimes for
people visiting or moving to the country, there is no better way of learning about Scots customs
than watching movies or TV shows set in the country. On Tuesday, somebody who has recently moved
to Scotland took to the internet for advice on settling in, I mean, why would you not? Posting on

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social media platform Reddit, they asked what they should watch to get an education in the land
and the culture. They wrote, "We moved to Dumfries about two weeks ago, we'll be here for the foreseeable
future and might even settle down here. We're getting used to the weather and all and the people
have just been lovely. We feel that is our responsibility, not just because it's important for our

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professions to learn more about the land and culture. Since being shared, the post has received more
than 255 upvotes and it's also had more than 130 replies with Scots keen to share their recommendations."
One of the top comments recommends Billy Connley's World Tour of Scotland, which was out, I remember
that 6th part of 1994, a very, very, very good show in World of Watch. Another suggest, the

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1985 adventure comedy "Restless Natives" which he covered on the podcast, maybe about two years ago,
starring Vincent Freel and John Mulaney, they added, "It's a wee bit dated now, but it's still a great
film to watch about Scotland and it's also been turned into a stage show somewhere, or it's about to be."
Meanwhile, one med user wrote, "Train-spotting, Braveheart, or Must Watch movies, the Sunshine on

(33:20):
Leith movie, we've covered all these films." She makes a good comment, she says, "The Sunshine on
Leith movie is a bit like a body would movie with songs and I think it might be a little bit true,
just the way that they break up the song and you'll be introduced to the film."
"It's funny, I was thinking about this, sorry, I know you're halfway through the story, but I was thinking
about this earlier today, a podcast we listened to a lot, I was catching up, I was listening to

(33:47):
The The Watchables from last week, we were doing the Blues Brothers and it just made me
watch The Fucking Blues Brothers again. I realized because I was having this conversation with my
girlfriend earlier this week about musicals and I was like, "Yeah, I'm not really a big fan of musicals."
But then I was like, "I fucking love the Blues Brothers." And that's what Sean was saying, it's not

(34:08):
a film, the musical members are just there, it's not like someone says something and then they
person the song. So it's a musical but it's not a musical, whereas Sunshine on Leith, I mean, we covered
it on the podcast, it is very much, you know, the songs are written by the dialogue and suddenly
someone's about to sing the song, which I'm not okay with. Yeah, it's not a shoehorn then for

(34:33):
Claymore songs, isn't it? Whereas The Blues Brothers, the songs aren't really there to move the story
along, they're just like performances. Yeah, I listened to The Wainsworld's episode of The The Watchables
today as well and it's really made me watch Wainsworld again in a long time. Yeah, it's, I've been
meeting, that was next on my listen to, so I might listen to that, well, still cooking dinner this

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evening. Yeah. Another person wrote BBC Scotland's A Good Place to Start, just paying no attention to
the, make-un-tane, make-un-tane strong language warnings, they just mean Scottish. Other television
shows suggested, included Surreal Comedy Sketch Show, Let Me Show, which is absolutely brilliant.

(35:18):
Yeah, Mr Ray Thriller Guilt, we've covered all of these series. Fantastic. We can hide and recommend
that. And the BAFTA award-winning documentary series The Scheme, I wish you remember watching,
like, if you want to take a holiday and somebody else is visiting. Buzzing out! Did that win a BAFTA?
Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying. That are concerns of lives of groups of families living in

(35:41):
their own bank and knocking all housing schemes in Comar, in East Asia. In terms of films, among the
other suggestions were the 2002 Coming of Ace Drama, Suite 16, which we've covered in The Culture
Swelly, comedy drama The Angel Shared, which we've covered in The Culture Swelly,
and the acclaimed 2013 sci-fi movie starring, Starring Scarlet Johansson Under the Skin, which,

(36:06):
we've covered in The Culture Swelly, just like, give another ring. Yeah. Elsewhere, others
recommended different ways to learn more about Scotland. Multiple Reddit users suggested that the
best way to learn more about Scottish culture was by getting out and about in the mirror on yourself.
One commented, to be honest, part from watching Tally just get your sales out and about your

(36:26):
community. You'll learn far more that way. In the second echo, then the end and free show have a
load of Scottish culture options, including stuff about Robert Burns. You just missed the big
Burns supper, but it'll be back at the same time next year. There's a lot of castles in the area,
which is great, and lots of outdoor stuff too. So, is that anything that you would add TV or film

(36:47):
wise that, um, would maybe just give these guys a bit more on Scottish culture? I mean,
it's a great podcast they could listen to. Yeah, exactly. I think Rapsy Nesbitt is missing from
that list, I would say. Styl game. Taggart. Taggart, of course. Styl game, yeah, hugely. Even

(37:07):
Tudor is dying because that does give a good indication. Okay, you don't see much of Scotland,
but you get, you know, a penny of Scottish culture in a way. I mean, there are so many,
though, great. Take the highway. I take the highway to maybe a little bit too far, I would say,
but yeah, there's so many things that you would pick. I mean, they've obviously gone with the obvious

(37:29):
in terms of Braveheart and Train Sporting, which I mean, Train Sporting, I would say, fair enough.
I mean, I'm shocked. Local Hero. Yeah, it's fucking hell. Local Hero should be in there.
Even Gregory's got it all to some extent. That was the other one, though, it's quite surprised
that wasn't in. I mean, if you're wanting to go back far, things like Steamy, you know, would be
essential, but I guess that's a bit far from him. Bob's having, I was just about to say, like,

(37:53):
Bob's having, but I don't know if that would give them a good view of it. It depends what they're
wanting to do. I mean, the things like Ned is a wonderful picture of, of, you know, Scottish life
at that time as well. It's same with them, small faces, but I guess, well, not so much now, but if

(38:14):
they're wanting to look into history. I really want to watch small faces again, I've got to be
thinking about it. I think we mentioned that a couple of episodes ago and it's kind of, you did,
it's been in my mind ever since. I need to maybe try and get it watched. Yeah.
Yeah, quite a few missing, I would say. What about you? Anything that you think that is missing?
I think Local Hero is a great shout because I think that's, I think it really showcases like the best

(38:37):
over, you know, the best side of our humour and the world, or kind of tweeness and scenery, obviously.
You know, I think Peter, sort of, train spotting is a brilliant film. I don't think it's part of the
culture that we would want to necessarily celebrate and, and, and, and talk up. I don't know. I think,
I mean, I don't think it is. I think it's pretty, everything's pretty well covered, I think, in the article

(39:01):
in from what you've said there. I don't know if it was anything I would add, really. That's quite a lot
to get through, but I mean, honestly, think the, the best thing about Scotland is it's not a very
big country. So even if you've done free switch, which is, you know, for anybody who doesn't know the
geography, quite far south, it's near the border. Fucking getting the car, get up to the highlands,
drive up to the Inverness, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh, up the sky, my daughter was asking about going

(39:25):
to sky the other day because she saw a picture of the, she saw a picture of the fairy poles. She really
wants to go there and the fairy poles in sky. You know, it's, it's, you know, it's not going to take you
that long to get, you're talking like three or four hours, maybe, to go, like quite far north
from Don Friece. She got clear roads, sceneries, beautiful up to Fort William, St Andrews,
Gwendoe Coe, all these places. That's what I would recommend. I think that's, you know, I would

(39:49):
suggest doing that. Just out there and in joy, going to have a pine in a proper old man's pub
in Glasgow or Aberdeen or even Edinburgh, just soak up the atmosphere. Yeah, just drink it.
Couple of lines in the bog. What off a stranger who's your new best friend? Other people's

(40:11):
pish splashing on your shoes at the old your riddles. It's just brilliant. So, Hag is suffering
away up the roads. You have to, because I was like for dinner, Sunday night just passed with
their few friends from them. I've been doing like this improv comedy class and obviously next to this

(40:32):
Dutch guy, I know you're speaking about Scotland and he did the usual joke about, because I was
at the beginning of the first period. No, Hag is. I was like, yeah, yeah, I love Hag is. Like, I don't
eat anymore because I'm vegetarian now, but I used to love Hag is. And you said, really? And he said,
what's in it? And I explained it to him. And he said, that sounds fucking amazing. And I was like,

(40:53):
the year it is. I was like, it's funny because most people tell it to you that I don't
try that because no, no, I really want to try that. And he said, could you send me a recipe or something?
I was like, I don't think you can recreate it. And I was like, but honestly, like here, you don't get,
you can buy it in a tent, but it's not the same. I was like, you know, I'd recommend Scotland and

(41:13):
try and Hag is there. And he was like, would you have it with? And so I explained to him, I was like,
well, just, you know, last month was Burns night. And I explained a whole thing about Burns night.
And he's like, that is fucking incredible that you guys have a day dedicated to a poet.
And celebrating him in that way. And I was like, yeah, but it's Robbie Burns. Like he is, you know,

(41:35):
literally the 25th of January, it's Burns night. And every year, celebrate it. And he was just
fascinated and astounded by this. And, but like in a, you know, he was delighted. He was really
excited that we do this. And, yeah, that made me really proud. Yeah. It's been that I've ever told you
that I was quite a late adopter of Hag is because I was quite fussy when I was younger in terms of

(42:01):
what I would eat and stuff. And the first time I had the Hag is supper was by mistake. And I'll tell
you that mistake came about. So I was, I had a long move then Aberdeen. I think I'd been in a
pub in Holburn street, maybe the granary or something like that. And I was pretty pissed. And I
stopped in a chippy near to the old Odin cinema on, is that when will this just a smell lane, right?

(42:24):
And the old Odin? Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. It is. Because it just smells on there now.
Yeah. I did use to be out. I didn't know for some days, but it used to be a chipper there. Yeah.
I remember going in there and asking for, this is how inebriated young 19 year old Greg was.

(42:45):
A haddock supper, right? So they hand it over and fucking stumbling up the road to my flat. I get in,
I open it up full of anticipation and I'm like, Oh, get me a fucking sausage supper instead. Well,
that's all right. I like a sausage supper. And I ate into it and I just didn't taste that
sausage. And then something just sort of came out the fog of my Pishtop mind. They've thought you've

(43:11):
said haggis. And ever since then, big fan of haggis by complete, by complete fluke. What a wonderful fluke
that was Greg. What a wonderful fluke. Now you know, haggis daft so you know. Yeah. So yeah, so that was my,
I could have been spoke for so long that I couldn't remember if that was my story or your story.
That was my second, that was my second story this week. Which year next month? My next story this

(43:35):
week Greg comes from Glasgow lie. YouTuber rates Glasgow's roughest pubs but ends up in some of the
cities best boosters. No, feel free interject in this because I want you to opinion on these boosters
because you know, they're better than I will. Okay, well, maybe it's been a while since I was in
Glasgow, but I'll do my best. A YouTuber set out to drink in Glasgow's roughest pubs,

(43:57):
but ended up in some of the city's finest boosters. Danny, who posts videos of his pub crawls and
reviews to his honest places YouTube channel promised a dodgy Glasgow pub crawl through the heart of
the city centre and to the outskirt pubs that tourists don't visit. The YouTuber from Manchester,
okay, into Manchester accent has produced videos reviewing pubs and bars across the world,

(44:21):
including New York, Belfast and Berlin. Danny is often keen to try the more maligned pubs
and bars not found in travel guides and has produced videos on the roughest, dodgiest,
and most rundown pubs in cities, including Liverpool, Leeds and Edinburgh. He followed up on his
first food to Glasgow last year, shade with his 79,000 YouTube scurpers, which saw him suck pites

(44:42):
in McKinnon's, Dauesbar, the Toby jug and the Alpine Lodge. Danny and his friend Andy visited
the pot still first on Danny's second visit. So the pot still? Brilliant. Probably the best
selection of Motewiskeys in Glasgow city centre. Certainly at one point, I don't know if that's
the case, I think it might be a bone-of-fide Glasgow institution. The little hope street pub is always

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full to the rafters and is beloved by Glassweach and visitors alike. It's a good pub this,
Danny said, on entering, before sinking a tenet in the famed whiskey bar. It's a decent
bosa, he added, and he explained pubs on his tour had been recommended to him by viewers
as Glasgow's roughest. Danny next visited the horseshoe bar. Fade for it, I was in a very

(45:29):
Christmas. Yeah. And was impressed by the UK's longest bar, but not by his pint of bell haven best,
which he said wasn't for him. He added that the horseshoe, it wasn't on the list, and it was just a pit stop.
Why are we on scouts? Recommended by Travel Companion Andy. Sloan's was next in the list.

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Manchester and I sorted talk, there's a bit of character in here, Danny said before or drink,
today I went to Scouts again. Yeah, yeah, sorted talk, why am I doing that and the Scouts accent?
Yeah, I'm going to just say, it's a bit of character in here and it's a coronation street.
Yeah, why, I don't know why, I've got that in my head now, so I can't go for it. I'm not going

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to the accent. Sloan's was next in the list. There's a bit of character in here, Danny said before
ordering a Guinness in the bus thing pub. That's grim that. He said of the Guinness,
morning that the drink was too cold as he sucked outside in a January air.
The pub itself is all right. Danny said, after fucking, I didn't know where my accents are going to

(46:35):
day. Normally I'm quite good. That's the last one. That's the Paul McCartney there.
Adding, but they didn't have much on tap. An earlier worrying that the horseshoe bar may have too much
on tap. And he also complained that the pubs aren't rough to which Danny said he was starting on the
weak ones and then it gets rougher as it goes on. On the way to the Sarasins head on the Gallagate,

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look, no, luckily it's a sari heat, where Danny predicted that things would get tasty.
Would you think Greg, would you think things would get tasty in the sari heat?
I mean, maybe like 10 or 15 years ago, but it's all getting all gentrified up there because that is
near the battle ends, the sari heat. It's all this big brood organ up there now.

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Well, he was sidetracked into the nearby toll booth.
Right.
It's proper banging in here, he said, impressed by both the temperature of his Guinness and the
tunes on in the background. It's time to get on with these rough pubs now, said Danny.
Listing the Sarasins head, the brazen head, and surprisingly, the loriston, which Danny said he
had been told was the tastiest boozer in Glasgow, tasty in a sketchy way.

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Standing outside the sari heat, he said, whoever has recommended this is on point,
banging with a bit of live music going on inside. This gaff is all right.
The particular taxate of loristins, with the driver telling them, "Everyone goes, yeah,
before filling them in on the subcrol, which keeps the bar filled with all sorts of different
characters." Danny was impressed by the loristins'

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lettrolook and railside setting. "Any pub with a railway above it is banging," he said,
before discovering McEwons for the first time, but ordering a Guinness from the middle tap
of the Heaving Bar. "That is good Guinness," said the boozer, and it's banging.
He liked saying banging a lot as Danny. Definitely the best Guinness I've had in Scotland.

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This is the best bar I've been in, not atmosphere wise, but alcohol wise. Danny and Andy then made
a walk to the brazen head. "This is a really nice joint," said Danny. Rating has
got a 7.5 out of 10 before saying their personality is pucker.
The pair's last pub was the star bar, which he said looked like that said.

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That's so sad. That's the arise to live. That's the Eglinton.
Yeah, I know it's at the bottom of the Victoria Road.
Yeah, I seem to remember passing the star bar a lot whenever I was at Urah's going in town.
It's passing. They do like a 3.50 to course menu every day in there.
Their plans were almost scuppard by a burst water main on Pollock Shaws Road,

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but they eventually managed across the street. This is an odd joint, but a weird one said Danny,
who was disappointed to miss the famous lunch deal, see courses for £4.
Oh, it's got the fives. He used to be 350.
Overall, Danny said he was impressed by Glasgow's quirky pubs and their personality,
and Andy said that Glasgow makes Manchester look boring.

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So, roughest pubs didn't really go any rough pubs, did he, Greg?
No, I mean, I don't think there's really any rough pubs left in the city centre,
but I think if you went into, if he had gone down maybe to Ward Eyebrox or even towards Parkhead,
then gone into like a proper Rangers or Celtic pub, he might have found what he was looking for in terms of,

(49:53):
a little bit of danger.
I mean, at least two have been heard from again since they embarked on this,
that wakes up us of a Glasgow.
And on the same Glasgow, rather?
I mean, they have, obviously, because they've uploaded the video, the YouTube,
so they have been there. I mean, the roughest pub I've ever been in was in Glasgow,
and it was near Eyebrox. I cannot remember the name of it now. Maybe you remember?

(50:18):
I mean, I was with an Aberdeen Sporters group, so it was obviously an asylum pub.
Or, it was an asylum.
But I mean, it was, literally, I walked in and I thought, this floor is crunchy,
and it was just glass all over the floor.
It was a cage round the TV, it was in the corner, all the pool queues were broken.

(50:40):
And yeah, it was a fight.
Yeah, that was the, what was the name of that pub?
Carrem or no, it was near Eyebrox.
And yeah, that's the roughest pub I've ever been in.
So, the Blazing Head is quite a big Celtic pub just out of the river.
It's near the Gorbals or what was the Gorbals.
But it's a, it's a big one. It's got like an upstairs function, but I've never,

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never been in it, but it's like a proper Celtic up the ra, a pub.
The pub I'm surprised they didn't go into, which is a brilliant pub, and I always,
every time, not that when in Glasgow, very often, but I think the next time you
and I find ourselves in Glasgow together will go is the Scotiabar, which is, it's down
toward the barraland. It's a great, it's a fucking great pub.

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Billy Conn, they can, well, maybe not so much now because he's obviously,
that he doesn't keep very well, but he could sometimes be found in there,
because he used to drink in there when he drank.
And I never ever bought in some, I didn't go in there all that often.
I've been in there a few times and it was always brilliant, but there's a lot of pictures
of him up in the wall in there because that's, you know, like, I thought of people
that he was friends with from when he was, he was still in Glasgow and he was still

(51:49):
working in the Shippie Arts and stuff. He would catch up with him there, you know,
guys, his agent, things, even though he stopped drinking, he would just go in and enjoy the crack.
Right, the Scotiabar is a fucking, or certainly used to be an absolutely brilliant pub.
But yeah, I don't think you're going to find any sort of rough pubs in the city centre these days.
You know what I mean? They, yeah, you'd have to go out to, you know, maybe

(52:09):
go out to like, drum chapeau or go up to Posseau or something like that.
You know, the saddest and bad on saddest and high-shitting Posseau, that is a fucking rough pub.
Fucking really rough pub. I mean, that's probably the roughest pub I've ever been in
and I didn't stay in there very long. I think if I didn't mean for the fact that I was with
my uncle Donnie, I think I might not have fucking ever come back out again.

(52:30):
It's my face just, my face just didn't fit if you know what I mean, you know.
You were too pretty for that barricade. I think everybody just knew that I wasn't a local.
It was like America would be open London, you know?
There's nothing for you, yeah? Well, that's Donnie and his pub troll through
Glasgow's roughest pubs, but not really that rough.

(52:52):
Yeah, not really. I think it, yeah, you're not good. I don't think I mean to any city centre
really have rough pubs these days. I mean, there was a few pubs in Glasgow, maybe like in the
mid-90s that were weren't really for guys my age and you just sort of knew that they were like,
they kind of grown up pubs, you know what I mean? You don't think of one.
But I think these days, I mean, say centres in the UK are pretty gentrified now, right?

(53:13):
I mean, yeah, I mean, Aberdeen, I think the, I mean, the bellman wasn't the best,
but then just to be quite ropey the bellman, doesn't that, as far as I know anymore?
It's not, it's now like a cocktail bar, like saying now.
It's like a bar dedicated to the Rednecks in order of like some classic shit house area from
20 years ago. Yes, exactly. At the Balaclava, always look quite rough at the end of George Street.

(53:41):
I was never in there. The Scotia, I know the Scotia, the Schunner could be rough back in the day,
but it's all been refurbished and stuff and looks quite fancy now, the Schunner.
Yeah, and then obviously the famous peep peeps, the anywhere down to Harbour.
Yeah, or the East Nuke, East Nuke was rough. I was in there a couple of times, like
we were marting little when I stayed in Nukker, Tarris, and we were just trying to be,

(54:03):
you're really fucking dead belong in there, but we, we were trying to stay that out a couple of times,
you know. Yeah, some rough pups. Never mind. Anyway, so anyway, let's hope that Danny Sulfives.
Okay, one last tiny little bit of sad news that we probably should have mentioned at the start of the show.
But this week, sadly, Jimmy Martin, who played all day, they can still game past the way

(54:26):
at the, at the ripe age of 93 years old, which I thought, you know, it's a good age to get to.
When I was looking at the post on Facebook, somebody had commented underneath another one taken
to a Sun, and somebody said, "Come, he done underneath." Mate, he was 93, but I think he was the only
character in still game to be sort of killed off in the show. I know they have that point ending,

(54:49):
where they all can fade away in the last episode, but there's actually, they got fume-ro for Eric,
and that brilliant Gina Lothar Bridge of the story that Ava, Ava, he was telling them that he,
he, they shagged famous, famous Gina Lothar Bridge of the, when he was in Italy with the army,
turned out that it was somebody pretending to be, they were just giving them their own name or something,

(55:13):
they spent his whole life thinking he'd pumped Gina Lothar Bridge of the, I can't remember the story,
but it really made me laugh. Um, Peter J. Key dies, doesn't he?
Oh yeah, but he sort of dies off-screen, does, then Eric died at the Puggy in the, yeah, so-
Yeah, yeah, so-
So, Peter J. Key died because-
J. Darcy died.
J. Darcy had passed away, yeah, that's right.
So, yeah.

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Eric, hello. Yeah.
I've got brilliant moments with old Eric in still game, you know, held his own with,
Hempho and Kiernan, and the other guys for sure, you know.
Yeah, he was a brilliant character.
I was, I was quite, I'm not pleased, but I was, I was upset when I already died, but then
it was like the third news article on the Daily Mail side-bought of shame that he died,

(55:56):
which I was like, fucking hell, that's impressive for a, you know, for him to make that kind of
level of theme, it was just under like-
Yeah.
Something that Kanye had probably done and-
Yeah.
Something else, about Angelina Jolie or something, and then, yeah, it was, um,
I'm like-
Yeah, passed away, so it was, um, yeah, it was a damn shame because obviously he was a,

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a lovely, um, man, obviously, great actor, but, yeah.
Yeah, sad times, but yes.
Um, Sister Lisa told me when she was, because she studied
a drama and Dundee, she hoped to make it as an actress and-
and never did, but she met him on the train from Edinburgh at Glasgow once,
and he was, he was kind enough to sort of chat to them, uh,
her and her pal for a while, and she said he was really gracious, and

(56:38):
because he gets acting a bit later in life, and, you know, he sort of told them how he,
how he, um, got to where he was, you know, so, yeah, I really, really,
lovely, lovely man by all accounts, so- Yeah, rest in peace, Jimmy.
Indeed, rest in peace, Jimmy.
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Okay, Greg, so it was your choice on this episode, so what do you tell us what we're
going to be talking about today? So, I've gone for relatively deep-ish cup,

(57:49):
a cup, deep-ish cut.
I picked the Nightmare Man, which was broadcast on the first of May, first episode, 1981,
on BBC One, in the UK. It's never ever been repeated on terrestrial television.
I understand that from the very research that the takes were thought to be lost at one point,

(58:11):
but you can get it, it was released in DVD years later.
It's based on the book The Child of the Voddeanoy by the author David Wilkshire.
Stars James Warwick, Celia Emory, who up until Dunham is searched for a list for some reason,
always spoke with Scottish, turns out she's not.
Maurice Robes, a good swally favourite, and of course, our patron saint, James Cosmo.

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The inhabitants of the fictional Scottish island of Inver-D are being stalked by a brutal killer.
The discovery of a strange craft on the beach suggests that the killer may be from another world.
It's, although it's based on the book by David Wilkshire, written by Dr Who, and Blake
Seven writer Robert Holmes, who's quite an interesting guy who I'm looking forward to talking about a bit as well.

(59:01):
Later on. So, four, 30 minutes at 30 minute episodes,
what did you think of The Nightmare Man?
Well, obviously it was my first time viewing. This was originally shown May 81,
who now is three months old, so I'd never seen it. I'd never even really heard about it to be
perfectly honest, until you mentioned it on the last episode. So yes, I watched all four episodes of it.

(59:28):
I didn't enjoy it. It's basically like a Doctor Who episode, kind of thing,
and I'm not a huge fan of Doctor Who, really, but I did enjoy it. I did. I just think I'm trying to
justify it, but I did. I liked it. There were some parts I really, really liked. There were some

(59:51):
parts that I didn't like quite so much. It was good. I mean, it does a good job of building up
characters, which I thought was really good. You do get invested in them. You care about them.
You care about fewer on Mike, and you care, really care about InSkip and Tom, and even Dr. Koutry.
And is that because obviously I love bodysuits, Tom Watson and James Gorsbow,

(01:00:15):
or is it just because they've done a really good job of building up the Coast Guard? You care about
them as well, but I thought it was good, and similarly they do a really good job of building up the
suspicions of current hound. And you're like, is he a bad egg? And then you're kind of thinking,
oh, this is got to be a red hair ring. Yeah. He's going to be okay. And then obviously you seem to
realize that he's an utter bastard and kind of delighted when he gets us to come up. But I thought

(01:00:39):
he's got a really good job of it's quite atmospheric, and I'm a big fan of like claustrophobic
horror in a way. And it does build up, you know, stuck on the island, and there's a fog,
and there's this creature. And again, they did a good job of building it up because you have not
got a fucking clue what this thing is. And it's the last thing that you would have expected it to be

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that you had explained to you. Yeah, the reveal and explanation did throw me a little bit. And
you know, when it comes to the reveal, I mean, it's actually a clever idea. It's not a
rub it, but I spent a whole time thinking like, is this going to be like some turtle toothed
secreture? And a man with a strength of a gorilla ripping bodies apart because they do do a good

(01:01:26):
job of laying the foundations. I mean, one of the first things you see is see the emery's character
if you want to drawing a sketch like the Loch Ness monster and you're thinking, okay,
so it must be some sort of secreture, but no, it's not. What about you? I mean, was this the first
time you'd watched it? Yeah, so I have a subscription, which some take the TV subscription, which

(01:01:48):
sometimes adds in some pretty like classic stuff that I've not thought about for a long time.
And one of the things that I watched recently, I mentioned this at the end of the last podcast,
was the original, well, yeah, the original TV show of the Day of the Triffids based on the book
by John Wyndham, which I remember. I think that must have been repeated a few times when I was a kid,

(01:02:13):
because I remember when I was really young, it just seemed like the most fucking terrifying thing
the Day of the Triffids. Yeah, I mean, like killer plants, you know, and it's the BBC. Again, it's
half an hour and episodes, and I want to talk a little bit about half an hour episodes at some point.
And, you know, because of just the way I am, I can't just watch something and enjoy it. I have

(01:02:36):
to put, I have to fucking get in Wikipedia, I have to know everything about it, I've got to know
what all the actors that are in it are doing now. If they're still with us, I got to know who made
the fucking tea. I got to know everything, right? And in the process of that, I've discovered the
nightmare man, and I thought, oh, that sounds interesting. And I guess I maybe I had heard of it,
you know, maybe perhaps, and it was just sort of there in the subconscious, because something

(01:02:59):
rung a bell about the title. So when I clicked on it and I saw who I saw the cast list, it sounds
I saw Maurice Rove's James Cosmo, and the fact that it's set in Scotland, I thought, brilliant,
this is this takes all the boxes for me. So it was my first time watching it as well. And it's kind of like,
it's sort of a cross between Doctor Who, take the high road, and the murders in the rumor

(01:03:28):
are meets like the thing or something like that, you know? Yeah, there's a little bit of, maybe
homage perhaps to the first Halloween film, you know, I think that was the first film where we
were given the killer's point of view, you know, they said, so there's a bit of that. Don't think
it needed to sort of red, felt this sort of red filter on it. That was a wee, that was very much of

(01:03:53):
its time. But, you know, like you, I, the kind of love this sort of shit, like love it. I really enjoyed it.
In fact, I think we recorded the last episode on the Saturday. I was going away in business to
Saudi Arabia on the Sunday, and that night I watched all four episodes back to back in the hotel for

(01:04:13):
when the sleep. I just, I really, really enjoyed it. But half an hour episodes of a drama is something
that it seems to be in, in 2020, in 2020, it seems to be the preserve of like soap operas now. You
know, you don't get a limited, but then you mentioned Kobrakai earlier. I don't know if it's before we

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start recording or after. And they are short episodes. So, well, I quite like the, I quite like the fact
that, you know, that it's 30 minutes. It's not like a big investment of your time. And, you know,
the banished is squeezed quite a lot of plot and developments and stuff into the 30 minutes, you know.
It is a dying art, and it is something that I think is needed. For example, a few nights ago, we're about

(01:05:03):
to, it just finished watching something and then it's kind of like, right, it's too early to go bed,
but I do want to watch another episode of Severance. It's too long. Anything 30 minutes can stick on.
And then I was like, if you were watched inside number nine and stuck an episode of that 30 minutes,
start to finish stories over. Perfect for that exact purpose. Well, those guys are, those guys are

(01:05:27):
big fans of this tightness drama, you know, they get exactly the sort of, it's kind of, you see
that little bits of the DNA of this sort of drama through all the episodes, you know. Yeah.
And perfect. And I agree with you, there is a crying need for like 30 minute thing. Because most
of the time it's 45 or an hour. And it's too long at times. And you're thinking, okay, I'm fine now,

(01:05:54):
but I know around about 32, 35 minutes into this. I'm going to start feeling tired and I'm going to
not be paying attention to the end of the episode. And yeah, I think that's, this is why this works,
because it's just 30 minutes. And it's an odd thing. It's an odd show because it's kind of a curious,
weird mix. Like it's a sort of drama that would appeal to the teenagers that at the time, in 81,

(01:06:17):
when it was shown, like maybe just grow out of Doctor Who, maybe seeing that as a little bit too.
But it was broadcast at 20 past eight on a Friday night. Doctor Who was on at, like, six o'clock on a
Saturday, I think, originally before it moved to like half seven later on, which there's pretty much
in it's, there's about to get killed off back then. So it's not even like it's on that late.

(01:06:38):
It's only early enough that, you know, I mean, you know, I mean, I would have been three, but if,
you know, so I mean too young to watch it. But if it was on, if it had been broadcast a couple of years
later, it's a good chance that I might have caught a bit of the fucking nightmare man before I went to bed.
Yeah, I could tell you the young impressionable Greg would have had a lot of problems going to bed
after seeing some of the sequences in this back in those days, you know. Well, that's exactly what

(01:07:03):
I was about to hit upon him thinking this is too terrifying for younger children. And at the same time,
it's probably too slow and bloodless for like an older audience. But I can imagine if you watch
this at just the right age, it's the kind of thing that we fucking stay with you for the rest of your life
and like leave a powerful memory. I mean, we all have something that we watched when we were younger

(01:07:25):
that kind of stood with us and stayed with us. But this would be the exact type of thing. I mean,
especially at the end of the, is it, I think it's the end episode one, isn't it where the, the
the Canadian guy, yeah, the ten rating gets. Yeah. And that's a pretty brutal scene to be watching. Yeah,
for sure. I mean, I think as well, you know, audiences were obviously, well, and you and I have spoken

(01:07:49):
about this before, right? Quite recently, I think, um, they, the sort of audience in the early 80s
had different expectations of their drama. So there's quite a lot of quite long,
talky seeds, scenes in this where there's a lot of, yeah, conversation between the characters.
There's a lot of sort of exposition being sort of a venture just into the conversation and things

(01:08:10):
like that. So there's not like a great deal of action. Really? Like, there's maybe a wee bit more in
episodes three and four than there is in the first two. But I think it's very sort of typical of,
I mean, even when I watch that, um, when I watch that day of the triphids series again, it's sort of
similar. You know, there's a lot of talking and not a great deal of action. And even when you watch

(01:08:31):
the old doctor, who's, um, you know, kind of before, maybe like the mid 80s, um, or the slightly
earlier 80s, you're used to watch quite a lot of the big fine doctor who at one point,
so I've gone back and watched a lot of that stuff. And then again, a lot of conversation, you know what?
I mean, a lot of chat and exposition and stuff. And this is a bit like that. And I guess, you know,

(01:08:53):
that's kind of what audiences were used to when it came to their drama back then, whereas now,
you know, there can be interesting to see if somebody was to adapt this, the child of,
the, the body and all again, um, into the kind of modern sort of drama, it would be like, you know,
I mean, there'd be like dismembered. It would be limbs on the golf course, you know, I mean, like, you know,

(01:09:17):
that sort of stuff would be like, I'm a lot of, a lot of gore. The only real gore that we get is when
the, the lady's body is discovered on the golf course, so that the beginning and we see her hand,
and those thebloods in the palm of her hand and stuff. Other than that, it's not, it's, it's,
it's tense and jumping and stuff in parts, but it's not gross, but they describe a lot of horror,

(01:09:40):
you know, you just see the, um, the hand and, and like a leg and that's all it is. And it's not until
in skip, uh, Morris Rose's character, it, it describes, she was spread around that tree like a tinker's
washing that you kind of get, which is probably my favourite life to go on show. Very much of it's time

(01:10:04):
that you get the, um, you get the, the idea that body parts roll over the place and later on when they
they go to her house and find her head, you never see it. And you never actually know it's her head
until later on Tom Watson says, oh yeah, the head that you found matched the, the body, the vertebrae

(01:10:24):
was a perfect match and roves them all. I hope so. Do it anymore heads like Romanerite. And that's
when you're like, ah, it was the head that they find. And, but exactly your point nowadays, you
would see the head like in a, caught in a scream with the eyes open thing, they are with a bloody

(01:10:45):
stump, but you don't see anything, you know, you just get them sing there, they don't get a
ball in even. Yeah, it counts. A box for it. Oh, sorry, I had to take it back up there. No, no, it's okay.
It wasn't too bad at the second time. It was just, just stumbling into it like that.
I must have been a loony. Okay, she's spread around that tree like a tinker's washing.

(01:11:11):
The thing is like, talk like, talk and then skip, the end skip just, you know,
his kind of backstory is he's moved from Glasgow to this, to Inverde, this little island. And
there's maybe a suggestion that he's been sent there because he's a bit of a wild card, right? And he,
yeah, he's like, at no point does he ever seem particularly disturbed by what's going on. He's like,

(01:11:37):
oh, yeah, I mean, when I was working in Glasgow, you'd be amazed what some people can do with a hatchet,
not this, but even Cosmo who's doing they could really good sort of soft kind of island accent. Does
it seem particularly perturbed either for somebody who's just had to put ahead in a box. And the next
minute, he's just having a flag at the police station, you know, I mean, they just chilled out,

(01:11:59):
making that old quips with in skip. Yeah, I really, I really liked their characters. I think,
and I think it needed if it had had the can earnest sort of determined policeman, I don't think it
would have been quite as good. I think the fact that Roves is sort of, oh goodness me, this woman's
been absolutely ripped to pieces. You know, I'm not like, you're all seen in myself a few times in

(01:12:23):
Glasgow, by the way, it's just, you know, immediately can a warm to him, you know? I mean, well, yeah,
I mean, let's speak about Roves and Cosmo. They were my two favourite parts of this, just the
little one-liners, just the way they were in terms of things like Cosmo, I can't, you see, he's
getting a squad together, all these islanders with shotguns and stuff and, you know,

(01:12:46):
casually points one of the shotguns away and he goes, I'm not in season. No, Jerry, it's, it's
fucking brilliant. They are really great characters. I genuinely just absolutely love them together.
I want to see the end skip and Tom spin off. Yes, I really do.
They're just, binds off each other so well and there's a couple of parts even that I noticed that,

(01:13:13):
like Roves kind of fluffs his lines or he comes in a bit too soon and they've kept it in,
but it works because that's, it makes it more natural because if you think about conversations
in the way they flow, nobody speaks one line at a time and waits for the other person to
completely finish. They do just jump in and you know all the time. Exactly. I was thinking about when
I edit the podcast and I'm like, fuck, I've jumped in there or, you know, something we do and I love it,

(01:13:38):
they're always fucking smoking, drinking whiskey, I have to fuck those with a days. Yeah, you could do that.
Now, they put a lot of traps away. They do. There was one episode I was thinking,
"Fuck, now those two must be absolutely shitfaced by now." And then they make a point of it as well
when one point end skip does say that he called HQ and explained what was going on. They were like,

(01:14:01):
"Are you pissed?" And he was going to say, "I'm well in it." I'm working on it. It's funny that,
like, assuming that it's technically Mike, the dentist, is one of the heroes of the piece. And, you
know, people turn in for help and stuff, but he's still seen as an outsider, because of the English,
you know, the inskipers, the assassination act. That's right, that's for a while. He, because he isn't

(01:14:26):
local, but inskip isn't local either. Because he mentioned the time in Glasgow and you do exactly
as you say, you get the impression that he's been sent to the island, much like Father Ted
was sent to Kraggy Island, because he's done some out and he's fucked up and he's got to go there
to pay his dues. And is it just their skeptical amite because he's English? And, you know, and is that
why they're suspicious of Colonel Howard as well? We don't look like outsiders. But I totally agree,

(01:14:51):
I think I would love a fucking rose and cosmos, spin off just to see them getting up to the
adventures. That's a book that needs to be written just the two of them in their little island,
just like a, a pest up smoking shetland. He can do it. Yeah, fair shit.
Just fantastic. And, Roves just brings so much to this role. And he's not, there are a couple of

(01:15:18):
points. There's one point where he punches the wall. It was just like the fuck sake. Like, it was either,
I can't just say he was chewing up the scenery, or if it was just the worst that I'd take I've seen
from him in, in, in the whole point, but I was really disappointed. I wanted them to save today.
I don't want fucking dripping dentist Mike to save the day. I want to be a huge,
devon tonight. And he, he is a bit of a fucking drip as well. He's a bit, he's a bit quector,

(01:15:43):
he's a bit quector, just go to aliens. I mean, he, he, he immediately goes to aliens as soon as
that as soon as, as even before they find this sort of weird submariney things that are not sure what
it is. I mean, before that is like, oh, you know, but they, they, they, they make the impression of
the, of the teeth from the bite marks. Yeah. And he's like, oh, maybe it's not of this world. And she,

(01:16:03):
and if you're a zekai, are you, are you doing aliens? I don't know what I mean. I think of the Rocky
Horrors show. Well, before that, because I've got this right in my nose, the, the way they go down
things. So he, the first thing is not aliens, the first thing he mentions. So there's one dead
body on the island of things are happening. And then he turns into, what if someone's doing genetic

(01:16:27):
experiments? Oh, yeah, that's what he is. First of all, yeah. That'd be the first thing that
springs to you. I might, the next thing is when he goes talking about aliens. Again,
in skip Morris Roves, thank God is the first to say that's nonsense. And I don't believe in
stuff like that. And I'm watching this thinking, I am you in skin. Yeah. This is what I was. But you're

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right. Mike is, he's a dentist. He's, you know, he's a doctor. He's, but his first thought is genetic
experiments. And he's like, well, somebody could be holed up in a cottage doing this. And I'm like,
but, and he speaks about Frankenstein. Yeah. I know. Yeah. I know. And I, I, I like the fact that he
asks Fiona and Mary. I mean, there's a distinct impression that he's a last person she wants to

(01:17:12):
marry. She's just having her fun. You know what I mean? Well, she can. And then she'll get him down
the road. But I just, I just love Roves and Cosmos approach. You know, there's like, there's a killer
of those in the island. A woman's been found, pulled to pieces. It's getting a bit dark, you know.
I, it's looking quite foggy out there. Well, we'll go in the morning. Good. You out with, you,

(01:17:33):
are we gold at all? I don't mind the photo. Yeah. I don't believe this. I don't believe it.
I mean, he said yourself that teeth marks showed human characteristics.
Some of the teeth. Look, I'm only suggesting a theory. If you go to agree, we seem to be up against
something more than just a runaway lunatic. Well, maybe we are. But I'm playing straightforward

(01:17:53):
homicidal maniac with bad teeth, running a mock is good enough for me. Absolutely. Fuck
in brilliant way to police that island. I agree. Yeah, you're right. So if we come on to, I mean,
yeah, let's talk about Mike, obviously played by James Warwick. Yeah. He's a tall. I quite liked
him in the beginning when he's like, oh, yeah, I bumped off and I'm already going to play golf,

(01:18:16):
you know, I don't mind if I cheat. And he's okay. But then he just turns into a bit of a wet blanket
and a bit of a, you say a fantasist when he's talking about genetic experiments, talking about
aliens. And I don't know, I, I found him quite wooden at times in terms of his delivery. And yeah,
most of his scenes, he's with either Celia Emory or Morris Roves or Tom Watson. Three are

(01:18:41):
downing actors to bounce off of. But he seems very stiff upper lip, and, you know, because he,
don't know, he was in the parachute regiment for about six months or something. And, but he seems
to know all about the army and everything like that. And I don't know, he just seemed a bit of an
odd character. Well, David Warwick's a bit of a, you know, he arguably David Warwick is, you know,

(01:19:03):
he's the lead in this, he's the hero, he saves the day, as far as the, his career is not, he's,
he's a bit of a sort of jobbing actor from when, you know, back in these times when there was lots of,
a lot of drama on the kind of, a lot of the kinds of literature drama that tells them expected,
for example, he pops up, like in Bergerac in Howard's Way in the, the Onodin line and all this kind of

(01:19:27):
thing, Murdershoe Rope, Babylon 5, you know, everything. And, you know, like, he's done like, he's,
I've got a theater as well. I saw that he plays, he plays Brad, he played Brad in a nearly show
with the Wookie Horrors show. And it doesn't surprise me because he's a little bit like that character
in this. And the character Brad in the Wookie Horrors show was a bit of a parody of, I saw it in 1950s,

(01:19:49):
"Pwookie Nerdy Hero". And that's a little bit what he's like here, you know what I mean, he's,
he's a dentist, but he's been in the army and was, he was a gun, he knows stuff about the army,
so he's suspicious of, uh, Colonel, um, what's his name, uh, Howard. Howard, I know this kind of thing,
you know, when, you got, you got Celia Emry there, who, you know, it's a great actress, um, and she's,

(01:20:12):
young in this, one of the, a nearly one for her, this, but she's really good in it. And her Scottish
accent is really good. I mean, I always thought she was Scottish, you see, I, because I'm,
her name sounds a wee bit Scottish as well, like Celia Emry, you know. And her final was Scottish.
Well that's gonna be why then, maybe that's my, she's got a good accent, but like, um, like,
like, um, like, Midia Margulis, she's a good Scottish accent as well, so that is from Glasgow.

(01:20:33):
Um, she's great in this, you know, and she's kind of, she's sort of placed that part of,
sort of island girl, you know, she's been away and she's been to London and she really enjoyed
it to begin with and she was studying, but then she found herself looking forward to coming home and
she's, you know, she's very much quite happy where she's at, you know what I mean? Um, and like, there's,
and I thought that we're going to put her in a bit of peril at some point because she's the only female

(01:20:59):
lead. Yeah, she's like, there's only two female characters in it. If you don't count a lady,
they get spilted pieces in the beginning. There's the lady that works in the hotel, um, and there's
Celia Emry, and then it's all guys. You know what I mean? There's, we don't see any other women that
don't think, um, in the whole show. So she's, you know, she's kind of a token woman because the

(01:21:19):
actress, the, the, the hotel manager, she doesn't get a grade either screen time. She gets a couple of
scenes, but I think wonderfully, she's not a, a damsel in distress. Like the character, if you
know, can do everything, like she draws maps, she draws pictures to floor to tourists. She develops
photographs, she's cameras, she's a pharmacist, I think, because that's obviously she runs. She's a

(01:21:40):
tour guide. She takes them around the island to find exactly what a Canadian is, and she can
fucking rock her low cut dress as well. And your character, she's just a, she's a, a female kind of
heroin, really. She's a strong female character, which, and she's not scared by anything, really.
I mean, a couple of times she's, you know, a little bit off-kilter, but you would be. But she's a very,

(01:22:03):
you know, so forced to be reckoned with, which I think is, is great. And for 1981, that's a,
a good thing to have, as you see, there's only three two female cast members to have a strong female
character. And as you see, this was the very kind of beginning of our career. I think it's great
to have that. And yeah, she, she delivers a performance. Wonderful. She's, you know, and I think

(01:22:27):
go back to James Wardet. He's kind of, you know, he's, I guess, he's a sort of quite a dashing guy.
Yeah, for the time, kind of good-looking guys, whatnot. But, you know, when you, when you put him up
again, skies like Tom Watson, who is fantastic in this, and Maurice Robes, and even Jonathan
Neweth who plays Colonel Howard, it feels like he's, you know, he's maybe like not, maybe not quite

(01:22:53):
where they are in terms of, in terms of their sort of characterisation and, and, and, can a talent
to be blunt. And it sort of makes that, you know, and maybe we're not supposed to think that Fiona is
just, you know, that he's fine until, you know, she's just, he's a bit exotic and she's having her
fun with them or whatever. But I think because, because of how he is as an actor, that's what kind

(01:23:16):
of comes across, because Celia Emily is such a good actor, you know what I mean? Is it because we
don't know enough about his backstory? Like, we know he's a dentist. We know he's on the island.
He's only been there, what, six months or so. And because she does say they've only been together
six months and just wait until you experience a winter here. So he's basically got to the island and

(01:23:37):
shacked up where I straight away. But other than that, we don't know anything about him when he's a
dentist, when he's been there six months. That's pretty much it. You know, he was in the, the
paratroopers for a short while. Yeah. You know, we don't know, is he divorced? Does he have kids?
What's, why is he ended up on this island? Exactly. Yeah. He plays golf. But it's almost a shame that,

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you know, maybe it's not that the actors fault, they didn't give him enough to work with in terms of a
backstory. But then if you're good actor, you do create your own backstory in terms of your character.
But yeah, he does seem, I would agree, to kind of come up a little bit short compared to everyone
else he's on screen with. They, they kind of blew him out of the water in a way. Yeah, it's out of

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it. Yeah. And he's, he's, he's up against three fantastic Scottish character actors who would
who, I'm no doubt, I've worked together before, no doubt, worked together after this. I mean, I
kind of really got the sense between Roves and Cosmo that there's the girlfriend ship there, you
know, they, they, the actors are friends, our friends, you know, and Watson is that I think is brilliant

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in this because this is, this is before he would start as the mint and tiger, you know, like
tigers first boss before he was replaced by the biscuit superintendent Murray, he peeped to a
wall, to a wall, it's a piece. Not super intended, he played superintendent Murray, sorry, he was replaced by

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superintendent Mick Vittey, hence the, the brilliant nicknames. But you know, like, you know, can I,
I kind of, I was going to use the Tom Watson as, well, we, we, we had them in, um,
the Gov and Ghost story, which is still one of my favourite episodes that we've done. Yeah.
In the five years near they've been doing the podcast, I've really, really enjoyed Gov and Ghost
story. And I really liked him in it, but he's playing this sort of, kind of soft, they spoke in Scottish

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Islander, you know, and he brilliantly transformed. If it wasn't for the fact is quite the
stinct of facially Tom Watson, you would, you would, you would, you would never really know that it was
the same actor. You know, he's got the glasses on, he's that accent and everything, he's just,
it's fucking so good in it. There's a, a scene I really liked is when he's with Mike in their,

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the, the technique, impressions of the teeth from the body and it effectively has a quiet word
with him about his intentions with Fiona and but it's so well done, you know, and when he says, like,
I delivered her, I brought her into this world and tells her about the death of her father and stuff,
you, a fuck, you know, that shows the, the acting ability of Watson, but yeah, you're all in here and

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you're kind of thinking, Oh God, like, why is he having to to act against James work because
this is such a powerful scene, but it's so well done, the way, the way he does that, it's not like a
menacing aspect, it, there's an undertone there that you're, he's just looking out for Fiona, she's an
island girl as he says, you know, this is where she's, you know, lived and this where she's from and he's

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just looking out for a girl that he's known all of her life and is obviously a bit suspicious, maybe,
of this outsider that's only been here for six months and we don't know his backstory. So I think
that's a wonderfully delivered scene and he's great just popping up with thing, the one flaw I have
and it's not with his acting, it's with the character is when they, they first go to the mortuary and

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they have the body minus the head and they're asking him, well, you know, how did she die? And he's
well, I suspect a blow to the head, how there's no head, how, how, how's that been concluded that
she died from a blow to the head because there's no head and the bodies and bits because obviously,
as we've established, it's been, you know, the bishops like a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, so,

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so how can you conclude that it's been done by a blow to the head? That's the, that was the one bit
for me. I was like, yeah, that's a, that's a mistake. How did nobody pick that up, but otherwise a
brilliant character and, and very well, well done. The one we're going to have about this and we'll
speak about the ending shortly is that the way it ends, I wish it had been done in more of like a

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Hitchcock way in that the Vodginoy dies and that's it. Yeah. And then it cuts to like an office and
you've got Tom Watson, Morris Roves, Cosmo, Emory, Mike, there, and Watson effectively explains everything
that happened. If that makes sense, like, you know, says, well, the Vodginoy was the then the

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Italian empire exactly. That's what I think would have been, but have been really good in terms of this
rather than, I don't know, maybe that's just me, but I, I kind of like that thought. Well, I read up a
little bit about Robert Holmes who adapted David Roachers book for the BBC for this. And he's quite
an interesting guy because he sort of started, he sort of started out in life in the British Army

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when he was 18, he sort of caught the end of the war in 1944 in Burma and then he was a policeman
as well. When he came out the army, he sort of started writing, he was sort of contributing stuff
to some of the dramas that were on in the 60s before he ended up in Doctor Who, but a lot of the
Doctor Who stories that he wrote were because he also script edited as well, but the ones that he wrote

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were always like a wee bit near the knuckle in terms of, you know, if I would say he kind of pushed the
limit of what they could get, what he could get away with in terms of what it's essentially they got
children's drama. Like, for example, he got into hot water at one point because there was a scene
in one that he wrote for Tom Baker where the episode ends with somebody holding Tom Baker's head

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under the water, he'd try to drown him, fucking five o'clock in the Saturday night, and I think
he got wee bit scunnered with the limitations placed on him. So he ended up writing for things like
Blake Seven, which was a wee bit more grown up and he wrote for invasion and quarter mass and things,

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but I kind of get the feeling that he, just from what I read about him, even though he was a vegetarian
famously, but I kind of get the feeling that he probably quite relished the opportunity to write
something for adults. So he's obviously like interested in science fiction and fantasy and
and all that kind of thing, but also like horror as well. There's a really famous doctor who

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sees that he wrote a story where I called the spearhead from space, and it's basically these like
shop mannequins come alive and start killing people because you could get away with that in the 1970s
at T-Time and the Saturday, and like their hands like sort of open and half and they've got guns in
their hands and there's like they walk through like shop windows and just start attacking people because

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it's that sort of low tech, sort of 1970s special effects. There's something that we bit more unsettling
about it. So I kind of get the feeling that he probably quite enjoyed writing this and adapting the
book, but apparently I watched a podcast, not a podcast, a YouTube about the nightmare man by a guy
called RetroShed and he managed to read a copy of the book that the nightmare man's based on, and he

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said the book is a lot creepier and a lot more violent and gory and maybe think I need to try and get
a copy of the book, but the guy who wrote the book was a dentist, who also wrote books, you know,
like novel writing was a sort of second gig for him. So that sort of explains why the hero of the

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story I'm making the rabbit ears on my fingers is a dentist, but there's a whole sort of industry
out of stuff like this. There's a podcast and a series of books called "Scarred for Life"
and the guys that started it, the books are really successful and they were about sort of 1970s and 1980s

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drama and commercials and stuff like threads and you know frightening kids shows like the chosen of
the stones and sort of horrible books and things and they get people on to talk about a few things
that scared them and they were kids. People were saying it in age like the last one they did just
come out last week has got Joe Cornish on it from the Adam and Joe show talking about the things

(01:32:24):
that scared him and he talks about a book and here I'll talk about it maybe think of the book of
a child of the the von Oij, a little von Joi, whoever and it's the fog by James Herba and it's not
oh yeah the fog as the John Carpenter film with the pirates coming out of the fog in the that
will new England town set in England and it like a part I'd never ever read it but the sort of

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premise is this crack in the ground opens this Fisher opens in the ground and this fog comes out
and people who breathe in the fog turn into homicidal maniacs and he said he's never read past page 6
they because page 6 they concludes a scene in a boy's boarding school where they've all had a
whiff of this fog and they beat the PE teacher to death but as a beaten him to death they're all

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masturbating and they're having sex with each other oh that's kind of thing she's just crazy
and like what then in this car for a live guys is like but the thing is this book would just be
one of the spinners and WH Smiths or at the counter in the petrol station or something like that you know
it's got this really horrible nasty gruesome sequence in it or series of sequences in it and I wonder

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if the book of the child of the von Neuys a bit like that as well you know they got to be so
obviously going to be toned down by the BBC but yeah it was a bit of a sort of there's a bit of a
sort of industry of looking back on this stuff and sort of comparing it to modern standards of
what you can do and when you can show stuff you know yeah because I did read that I think the first victim

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who is spread about the dishes that could think this portion is in the book she is sexually assaulted
before uh uh so I think there is a the book does go into a little bit more elements of of that um I guess
we should speak about the the the the the the we spoke about the premise obviously there's

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something is murdering people on this island and you think you don't know if it's a secreture you
don't know if it's aliens you don't know if it's genetic mutations in the end it turns out that
it's the vagina which is this Russian pilot of a submarine kind of thing yeah has like an implant in

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his brain um because he feels it one with the vessel yeah and the crashed radiation has leaked
he's ripped out his brain thing and he's gone feral effectively i think i think i say he's he's gone
into like basic human kind of one of human but like animalistic need and that's why he's

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ripping apart victims cannibalism is mentioned at one point he's eating a flank of the Canadian i guess
he's just trying to survive um why would you eat human flesh when you've killed a sheep but i don't
know if he's eating part of the sheep and that's the thing so i mean like i thought the first three
episodes were well done i had no idea what was hunting or killing the person on the island and i

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guess that's the trope of these kind of things really but it was quite scary until the killer or
creature was actually revealed and then it falls a bit flak because it's just a man of rubber suit
basically yeah i mean it's it's it's kind of like it's like a a power rangers being corrupted
you know i mean really it's really that guineaver was a good officer a good officer he's worse than

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an animal that's not guineaver's fault it's what was done to him what do you mean the vodjanoi and
its pilot must become one organism this is achieved by means of this ganglia being inset into the
pilot skull when a pilot returns from a mission he can only be released by specialist fitters
when guineaver came ashore there was nobody here but are you saying he damaged himself

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part of his brain stayed in the vodjanoi he became a creature acting only from instinct
and for 15 years remember he has been trained to kill but i suppose that you know he's sort of
elinate this was written then in the cold war was still kind of bubbling away and you know they
they they the elements of russia doing these like sort of nazi-esque experiments and fusing

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human consciousness with uh they've you know with a machine um you know that sort of stuff genetic
experiments i guess to some extent that david wil that uh david war james warwick ralars character
michael sort of alludes to um earlier on like the the the the the vodjanoi is like a russian mythical

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or an eastern u the pian mythical monster sort of Lochness monster type of fantasy that is named after
i thought you know i just you know they i guess like with artificial intelligence and all that kind of
thing you know there's maybe a wee bit of synergy to modern debates and this old sort of plot twist
you know you could if you tried hard enough you could probably join the dots is it maybe

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herald in the future is all inadvertently in some way but you have to remember the bbc are making
these dramas for fucking got like 50 quid an episode to spend after the paid all the actors you know so
that rubber suit is wearing is probably an old doctor who fucking costume that's been sprayed and
you know adapted in fact the actor that plays the killer they could play like cyber men and

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monsters and stuff and that was kind of how he made these money was playing that type of guy
sometimes they get credited in some of the shows that he did so for me that's going to part of the
charm of it you know i wasn't expecting like somebody amazingly crafted horrifying creature i knew
it would be a bit shit especially especially when you know when you get to the lifeboat guys you know

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which i think is one of the strongest sequences that one of the most genuinely creepy sequences it
sort of falls away a wee bit towards the end when the guy that's left sort of hits him with a flare
and then tries to climb out the window then he appears and pulls about the window by his arms and
stuff yeah i like that bit but um so that was it that was like when the first two get it i thought
it was quite good it was really like a sort of classic american slasher film in a lot of ways i

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mean yeah to speak about the coast guards did you recognize them uh i feel like i probably should
have done the way you're saying that but i have to be honest i say that he didn't okay so one of them
was played by um roll of for for who was Freddy Boswell in bread do you remember that bread
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so he was the the and the dad in bread um but the main one and i

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i jay i had to look out because i was like i know who he is i know who he is the young one who
hits him with a flare and you know effectively is the the last one standing um just Jeff
Jeff Stewart who um is he is Scottish he was born in Aberdeen um but his family moved to south

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hampton when he was three years old so i don't know at three years three months old so i don't know if
we can claim him but i'm gonna claim him because we do claim him um for many many years he played
Reg Hollis in the bill so just see that like it here i i don't know why i didn't look i probably
didn't look them up because i didn't recognize them um but now that i can see drummond in my main

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zi and of course it's young Reg yeah young Reg in the bill and that's genuinely a great scene when
he shoots him with a flare and that is tension and that reminded me a lot of as you mentioned
earlier and i think it was an influence on the book um was the thing um yeah the original original
the thing was an influence on the book and i think that scene reminded me of something from

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the thing where i'm going with a Kurt Russell version obviously but yeah the original that
part kind of didn't fucking hell fear of playing with me fucking rocks in with a flare and
sets the vodginoid on fire and surprise it didn't take him down but obviously it didn't take that
that is it that is it that is soldiers gimp costume obviously protected them from the flames

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yeah yeah um the gimp costume it's exactly what it is yeah but this is all like pre pre 9 pm
i'm afraid yeah when any when you know there's going to be probably some young people that
were allowed to stay up a bit later because it's Friday night and there's a little school the next day
that are going to catch a bit of the fucking nightmare man uh dragon puddle redge out of a window

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and beating them to a fucking bloody pulp just pushing the envelope Greg just a few years later would
see that i always smacked out his head in an arcade yeah just so yeah but yeah red from the bill
i was like fucking hell it's red from the bill that was something used so the i want to talk a little
bit about kernel hours because so i start off as a mysterious character he then becomes a little

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bit of a villain but he's sort of an if it then he's becomes an anti hero because he's like look what
we want to do is get this stuff back to russia you know and we've brought this anti dole because it's
you know it's got a bio chemical weapon on it we don't want anybody in the island to be affected by it
so we're giving you anti dole so that you can give to everybody it should be enough for the whole
island and they're about to fuck off and they're like well be what about this mad russian guy that's

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running about fucking pulling bits off people and all that but that's your problem but then
this sort of has a bit of a change of heart because it's it transpires that he has known this
russian guy before he went bananas and before he had this sort of experiment done on him and stuff
and he decides that he's going to try and reason with them and stop him on the behalf of the islands

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and it proves to be his undoing turns out to be a suspicious character sorry starts out to be
a suspicious character turns out to be a bit of a bad egg but then yeah you have to say becomes
a bit of a martyr in a way does kind of that point when he does kind of say look yeah okay I'll

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help stop the vojonoid the guys can leave without me how's he getting off the island otherwise
and yeah he does goes tries to kill it I mean he's a fucking military man says that he's in
armory and he misses shooting but yeah it's like he's like a waste of the fucking terrible shot and ends up
getting his come up in some darkness yeah yeah but yet the dentist can shoot him fucking like four shots

(01:42:59):
yeah yeah I know exactly and then that you know obviously that russian gibb sur is not bullet proof
we're we're when it might be fire proof and and then and that's the end of the vojonoid and we have
to assume that everybody lives happily ever after especially tommon and skip you know get back into
the office get the the jams on quite nicely wrapped up as well when tommorks and stewing the speech

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in the the police office thinks that you have a five dead bodies and and skips like yeah but can blame
them on the russian suit yes exactly and then I then I love that cosmos the last line of it where he's
like ah cheers and yeah as that as a wee dram I'll be honest did not recognize young James Cosmo I
mean I know I knew it was Cosmo but I was like fucking really looks so different I think so yeah I

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really thought so see that's the cosmos of my sort of memory you know I mean they could that you
know the very ginger big bushy tash in here you know like stature and all that sort of stuff that's
the cosmos I mean I think it's like 1947 Cosmo's born so he's at his 30 still in this you know I mean
thought he's not that young but I suppose he's not that old either thick a big body I work under

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his belt by that by this point you know of course I mean if I think a Cosmo if I if I think of James
and I put him in pitching on my head genuinely I think I think it's transport in Cosmo is like the
cosmos mode jumps into my head just the you know probably in his 50s late 40s early 50s by that point

(01:44:32):
yeah 50 well in his 50s yeah yeah with just stole the ginger here but just you know moustache
softful head of hair and I have to say the the trailer you sent me for the fear which is the fourth
of March looks fucking amazing and it looks like Cosmo is playing like a fucking mental

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dad's my dad's yeah yeah a mad dad it's kind of fucking military don't fuck with my kit yeah yeah
like I can't fuck away for that he's in another couple of things of this sort of nature
a Cosmo like before the nightmare man he's in he's in the film version of Doomwatch which was like a

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famous BBC series with Ian Ballon and stuff in it Robert Powell but he's in a really really famous one
called the Stone Tape which you can see on YouTube but it's a famous old I mean it's really old
the 1972 it's good Jane Asher in it and it's about a ghost story basically it's like ghost
hunters in a ghost story it's still it holds up pretty well especially if eggs are obviously very

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much of their time but you can see a young Cosmo playing a I think there's a camera man or something
in the stone tape worth watching but yeah I'm looking forward to seeing the fear they when they did
that um that will cameo from me from my birthday does they did plug the fear remember give it
give it we put gonna forget yeah yeah so yeah yeah great to see him in this and it good to see him

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in a really prominent part in it as well so we can we can bask in his Cosmoness all the way through
I enjoyed his I them back then thinking a rocks the the old-fashioned policemen's uniform the
tunic and everything there and yeah just again not to be par upon about him and roves but what a brilliant
team they made wonderful you just they keep sending PC Malcolm son off to do all the shit jobs while

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they send the office of the drums you know he's got it's it's it's a case of like you can just
tell they've worked together for years like Cosmo he's never complaining he's getting all the you know
roves is always telling them stuff to do he never complains yeah like even when he he kind of makes a
joke about his day off not happening like he doesn't complain about it and the little touches the

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brilliant scene where uh roves just throws a whiskey bottle at him and he catches it and then
just pulls himself a tramp this girl yeah like it's like they you know you can tell their friends as
well as colleagues and it's like they've been friends for years this is the kind of character
building that they didn't do with Mike which I think is why yeah sufferers believing him is kind of

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the hero of the piece yeah I just love how like it's it's PC Malcolm son who gets sent to
fucking guard the yeah the weird craft that you say you know you've got to stand here I bring you
a sandwich later on we while they're in the office in the ward I just love him flirting with the
the woman that runs the hotel who must be I mean she'd be a cougar uh for him that like you know

(01:47:43):
ain't well so he was he was flirting with her in terms of oh you're looking very smart in your dress
are we glinting these eye layer oh yeah old um sergeant carch otherwise known as tom otherwise
known as cosmol um yeah so look I enjoyed um I enjoyed it you know they've said a few times
on here they could like I like these old um these old dramas you know I've I've been watching it

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while it's on again like there's so many episodes that's why it's on I think I watched I watched
about 30 episodes and uh from sort of July up until maybe and again the Twilight Zone is like half
an hour you know yeah so it's an easy one just like in a watch wonder to I watched like probably
30 they I think the first the first season the season is like 35 episodes and I think I watched

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maybe about 30 and I finished off the season just a couple of weeks just maybe last week I watched
like five episodes of it and I watched the first couple episodes of the second season of
the Twilight Zone and like you know going back to what we're saying earlier about uh inside number nine
like I don't know if um Steve Penberton and Rishir Smith get enough credit for being able

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to tell like a different story every week completely unconnected anthology being able to tell and
and every one of them some obviously are better than others which is always the case but the standards
are all are still really high some episodes are good and some episodes are absolutely brilliant
they're all really clever brilliant twists and to be able to do that in 30 minutes it's you know

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especially these days when like we said earlier most dramas are you know if it's on Netflix for example
may it might be 10 hour long episodes you know like a really like 10 hours and sometimes these guys
are telling a much more complex than entertaining story in half an hour then people are telling in
10 hours of they highly funded expensive drama I mean I think the the last season of

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stranger things they'll be dropping later this year and I think each episode is going to be about two
hours long it's just insane to think that and yeah the best it films aren't they yes they every
episodes are good movie you know yeah and I love the yeah just something short that's biteable that
has your attention that you can just yeah yeah grab so and they're not it's they're not disposable

(01:50:05):
you know what I mean it's not like it so well you know watch that and that's it they're they're often
like really well told crafted acted and performed you know and they're one you know you can
go back to them and I think that's that's something that was like prevalent around the time that
the nightmare man came out and there was there was an appetite for like a story told over four or

(01:50:27):
six or eight 30 minute episodes yeah you know what I mean and as well as done it's concluded you've
got everything you need to go out of it yeah finishes next much longer you know yeah so yeah so you
so you and then the next episode you get the last couple of minutes of the previous episode just
to bring you back up the speed in case you've forgotten anything yeah right I think it's time to

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put the nightmare man through our swallie awards you ready for it let's go okay so our first award is
the Bobby the Barman award for the best pub I mean the best pub is probably fucking in skips office
to be honest but but I suppose the only pub really is the hotel bar isn't it yeah you've got the hotel
bar and you've got the golf club bar the hotel bar looked quite well stocked yeah just reminiscent

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of an 80s pub with just all the optics so yeah I'd go with the hotel bar yeah me too next award the
the James Cosmo award for being everything Scottish it's got to be Cosmo just has a award but I think
you can exactly say what I've got written down as well go ahead and give a nod to Roves and Watson
they're both brilliant yeah it's exactly what I've got written down but you need to give a shout out

(01:51:38):
to Watson and Broves they get a special mention so yeah exactly what I've got written down
on my notes Greg yeah and the next award would usually be the Francis Begbie award for good
sure to swearing it's the BBC pretty nine o'clock the 1980s I think even post nine o'clock the
1980s you wouldn't get good sure to swearing and the BBC so that one these to stay on the shelf

(01:52:00):
Roves says damn at one point and that's as bad as it gets yeah and next one then the Jake McQuillen
award for your teesit a few options here I went with Reg hold us from the bill shooting a flare
at the Vodginoy right I went with Reg Hollis and the bill getting yanked at the window by his arms

(01:52:21):
but yeah we could have had the Canadian nature guy getting attacked in his tent could have had
Reg Hollis from the bill's colleagues although we don't really see what happens to them I suppose
but plenty to choose from so the next one I've had to adapt because normally it would be the

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Yume Greg and awards for good sure to sure to say the sort of Emory in her slip post-coitus the
they've obviously just gone for it on the different in the floor in front of the carpet before we
joined them and David Michael the dentist is putting his shirt back on even in the floor Emory comes

(01:53:03):
in with the slip on and stuff he's like well I better go home and she was like oh just stay the night
that was like oh they've obviously just been shagging one of the different in the floor fair play
yeah I can't say anymore to that yeah I mean the dress and the hotel bar was uh enough in terms of
what he's like the waiter nearly burned himself but the way he was shaking yeah yeah yeah she's

(01:53:30):
like is it too much it was yeah ever ever made love in front of a rolling fire no never have
for yourself no I can't say I have I don't know if I don't know if I fancy a bit a bit hot I think
what I think yeah you've got to be worried about a little sparking off the swell yeah burn your
arse um okay next one then archetypal Scottish moment right what did you go for uh the complete

(01:53:55):
an utter whack of surprise by the gruesome murders that's demonstrated by in skip
still a day at the office even in this wee island what were you uh I had playing golf in old
weathers oh yes calling english assassinach yeah however I had to give it to a burst out laughing when

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near the beginning where uh in skip picks up the phone calls the doctor and says that's been a
murder yeah it's yeah it's that yeah very much so yeah yeah I mean you could have had dead body in the
golf course as well so probably yeah yeah yeah that's a good one that's a good one then lastly then

(01:54:43):
our big time awards uh who wins the nightmare man for you morris roves I've got a morish roves I mean
I'm so attempted to give it to between roves and cosmos just because they're so effective together
but roves yes brilliant on his own as well where it's caused cosmos that he's best in this when he's
bouncing off roves and we're just just because of you know since we've been doing the swallowing I've

(01:55:06):
seen more and more of tom Watson I really really liked tom Watson and you know as an actor and
I'm so attempting just to kind of give a little nod to him for this because I think it's very good in
it but he's not it doesn't really get enough time on the screen I don't think to be deserving of
of the big time award no yeah I'd agree with you on that and but yeah I it may be love tom Watson

(01:55:29):
a little bit more but it may be love morris roves even more like the stuff we've covered in men is
just yeah but it's just phenomenal I mean if I keep harking back to 23t well he's just so good and
of course the acid house it's fucking phenomenal but yeah morris roves for me just wins this yeah well
that's powerhouse of an actor you know I mean like he's and they it's the face you know that sort of

(01:55:55):
his face is sort of well lived in you know what I mean yeah I really like him anyway that's a night
mere man if you haven't seen it you know run that free you know probably just a said in beginning and
if you want to watch it if you can get on DVD it is available in daily motion all the episodes
you're having you may have to sit through a couple of vocal a low budget adverts annoying

(01:56:19):
moments but you know you get it on daily motion and we're worth a watch but it was my choice for
this episode which means that it comes back to you for the next one what we watch it well we are
going to move a little bit further forward on the next episode Greg but not too far as we go into
1985 this is a film I've been wanting to cover quite a while and I think now is the type with a cast

(01:56:44):
including John Gordon Sinclair Dave McCoy Paul Young Gregor Fischer Jonathan Watson Ricky Fulton
and a very young Swally friend of the Swally Simone LeBeep glass Weijen photographer Alan
breaks up with his girlfriend Mary and soon has chances elsewhere but can't stop thinking about

(01:57:05):
Mary she however seems a lot less keen to try again available on YouTube and running perfect for
us Greg one hour and 24 minutes oh yeah dancer we are going to be talking about 1985's film The Girl
in the Picture oh brilliant I know I've seen that yeah what a cast yeah amazing cast yeah absolutely

(01:57:25):
incredible cast so yeah I've seen this many many years ago and I've always mean to watch it again
and it was available on YouTube for a while but it was this weird kind of clicking noise every three
seconds but someone someone who God has sent to this earth has uploaded a new version
and it's completely clean and perfect so yeah 1985's The Girl in the Picture not to be confused

(01:57:53):
I think by when I was googling it that two years ago I think it was a Netflix series called The Girl
in the Picture which is like a murder serial killer kind of true crime doc so not to be confused
with that is a Scottish film 1985 starring John Gordonson Claire but it is available on YouTube
for everyone to watch so that was to be doing on the next episode of The Cultures.

(01:58:15):
Okay well thank you very much for listening everyone hope you enjoyed the show you can get
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(01:58:37):
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there's about a traffic maybe somebody who pays to advertise on it one day who knows who knows

(01:59:00):
wonderful right yep 10th thing else this evening but it's probably it was 1015 for you
1015 i'm gonna tidy up my desk here i'm gonna go to bed because i'm getting up at
early tomorrow to play tennis it's six o'clock start because that's the only time the court's
available but i want to you know want to do that i feel a little jog i'll go and look at a new car
from a wife tomorrow morning then after that like i've got the afternoon just me and my

(01:59:25):
daughter Renee in the house just she's like she's sitting around watching a tally i can line a sofa
we'll be watching the girl in the picture have a disco nap it's gonna be great
wonderful sounds like fantastic day that does anyway what about you which are plans this evening
oh you go watch Cobra Kai Greg sure yeah get my car at it so you're conveniently length episodes

(01:59:47):
of Cobra Kai hopefully so i haven't I haven't seen how long the episodes are because of the
spoil any you know because i end up reading the description i'll know what's gonna happen so i don't
want to spoil that so yeah also how many episodes i get through but yeah i'm off to go watch
Cobra Kai right i need to get my caratial okay right next to this money till next time till next day

(02:00:09):
so i kill i was in bortry woods when gaffigan was on the first tee
what kind of knife was used
is it there are no injuries consistent with the use of a knife inspector
just strength

(02:00:31):
you mean he did always with his bare hands
.

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