Episode 125 - One of Us (2016) - The Culture Swally

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Hello and welcome to The Culture Swally, a podcast dedicated to Scottish News and Pop Culture.
My name is Nicky and I'm joined as always by the man who is loaded up on Papa Smurfs and ready to go.
It's Greg! How are you today, buddy? I'm doing well. I'm doing well, how are you? Yeah, I'm all right. Yeah, not too bad. Thank you.
I'm all good. Oh, good. Have you been up to anything exciting? No, but I'm off to Comic Con in Abu Dhabi,

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tomorrow with my daughter number two. She wants to pay £100 to stand in line to meet Natalia Dyer from
Shanger Things who plays, not to suggest things for Aegean's, can't remember the character's name,
without the porter, but back here. What's her name again? I cannot remember either. I know it's been so

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long since I've seen it either. I know exactly who you mean and I, yeah, her name's gone from it.
Sam Wills. No, it's not Bill's sister. Well, his brother's girlfriend. Yes. Yeah. Okay, very good.
Yeah, anyone else exciting appearing? Charlie Cox of their devils there. Andrew Garfield.

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Yeah. former Spider-Man is also there. Who else is there? Some Japanese anime people that I don't know.
I think Vincent, they're off Nail, is there as well? It plays a kingpin in their devil. Yeah, in order to
have something for Natalia to sign, my daughter asked me to pick up the Shanger Things series 4 record

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yesterday, for her. Okay, because it comes with a poster. It's got some pretty good songs on it as well.
It's not, I thought it might be like the score, but it's not. It's obviously Kate Bush is on there,
that song, running off that hit, being like a big theme of the series, and yes, some other
bangers as well, so I'm like, being given that spin later today. Oh, nice. Oh, that'll be good. You can,

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have I listened to that? Oh, cool. That'll be very exciting. Yeah, I haven't been to anything like that
very long time, like, queuing up. I always feel a bit awkward when you're meeting someone like that.
I've never done it to say, and the only time I've ever done it was at Summer's Lam, Summer's Lam,
yeah. I got to meet Paige and Seth Rollins, and yeah, I got their autograph and had a chat with them,

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and it was just, I don't know, it was fucking awkward. Yeah, I know. I know. I mean, I've met,
I've met a few famous people at my time, and I haven't been very cool at all. Yeah, you know,
I met John Cleese at Mar-Hall in Glasgow, and I just got this stink feeling that he just could
not wait to get away from me. I should have got Blame on him, but if I guess Eddie, it's like me come up

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some all the time, going, "Oh, a big fan of yours, Mr. Cleese." And, "Booo." Yeah, she's just
chatting, going, "He's dinner or something like that, you know?" So, but I've never queued up to meet
anybody. Tomorrow will be my first time. I don't really want to, it seems a bit tightly even or standing
in line by yourself, because it could be a couple hours, so I'll keep her company. I don't think
up a couple hours. I think they'll probably manage it quite quickly, you know? Yeah. I think maybe the

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Charlie Cox and Andrew Garfield lines will be quite warm. If I may, if I ever met Vincent, they're off
new, I probably just want to talk to him about Phil Miller Jacket. Yeah, I would know. Was it like working
with Stanley Cooper? Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. It's a, was he as much of a cut as people say?
Are you as much of a cut as people say you are? Because I heard an interview with Andrew McCarthy,

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talked to Brett Easton Eilish, and he said that you are a proper cut. Yeah, I'm sure that'll go
down really well. Security! At least it'll be memorable, and yeah, not people asking about
kingpin and stuff, yeah. Yeah, I'm obviously hope, obviously I always have my eye open for people

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selling G1 Transformers, but I'm not holding out much hope to be honest here and here in the
middle east for that. I think people appreciate it when you you mentioned something not, you know,
specific in terms of, so everyone's going to be asking them about Daredevil if you did mention
something random. Men of like. For example, yeah, men of like, like, like, for example, you saw the

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joy on Patron St. of the Swally James Cosmo's face when he did that video for you and rather
than saying "Game of Thrones" he got to say that you got to beat Matt Castelli, who I've had in
Tagger. He was delighted. No one's probably no one mentions that, and it's just something
a bit different, so yeah, I think it's always good if you can come out with something left

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field when you're meeting someone famous or speaking about their work or something. Especially
someone who said such a long career, because he's been around for a long time Vincent Therofny,
one of his decosmos we've been doing for even longer, you know? So I laughed at it, I laughed
at the Cosmo action figure picture on the Instagram for everybody to put it up in a midweek,

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just to keep interest up in the last episode. Yeah, I wasn't sure because I was like, well,
I have a way too long to do this, because the trends kind of over and out, but hey, we're hardly
social media butterflies, so it's okay to jump on the bandwagon a bit later. I know. I have some
marketing people who work for me and they keep engaging agencies to put these posts on,

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that are following trends, and I get some a bit, can I couragefully, because I always
think of whether it's a marketing message, what we try to sell here, what is the call to action?
You know what I mean? And there's not really any call to action in these posts, they're just trends
that I'm, so I said to my daughter that you have to help me hear because in my heads we're just

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spunking money up the wall on this bullshit that is not going to drive people to toward the business.
And she's like, no, no, no, no, that's all over it, that trends all over our TikTok at the moment,
and I don't have a TikTok on my phone because it takes up too much memory. Yeah, it's a gigabyte or
something. Yeah, that's too much. Yeah, I'm very much the same as you, I think,
emotionally, when I first saw the first of those action figures, I was like, oh, that's really cool,

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I need to do that. And then after about three days, it was all I kept seeing and I'm like, you know what?
I'm over at this now. I don't want to do it. And then I was bored one afternoon, so I did the
Cosmo one, and then obviously, yeah, did you, mutual friend of myself, so, yeah, but I won't be getting
shared anywhere. So, I might, maybe the Cosmo one, maybe we'll put that on. Yeah, just,

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say, harmless to Cosmo one. Wonderful, right? Well, I hope you have an amazing time. I'm
on the con. My ass is going to be parked on the sofa pretty much all weekend because it's
WrestleMania. It is. So, yeah, so I'm excited about that. So, yeah, we'll see. Netflix is first
WrestleMania, isn't it? Yeah, certainly is, yeah. So, that's going to be exciting. Let's see what

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happens there. So, very good. I think, right. The Drew McIntyre interview on the, on the film
level podcast. Yeah, he's, he's got a, he's got a, he's got a, he's got a, he's got a, he's got a,
this, yeah, you can swear. I'm going to kick his content. That's brilliant.

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Just be serious. Let's just go with the worst word. Possibly say,
I wonder if that would be beeped, actually. It was beeped on the podcast. It was beeped on the,
on the podcast, yeah, yeah. I have noticed that on some ports when they say that word. They'll say,
much anything, but when they see where it's dropped, it gets beeped. And I know ITV got into quite a

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bit of trouble because Mickey Rook dropped the C-bomb before he got ejected from the big puller house.
Yeah, that was there. I think that's the only word you can't say. Yeah, ITV, very, very,
yeah, never mind. Okay, right. Shall we have a look at what's been happening in Scotland over the

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last couple of weeks? Cure the jingle. Hello, this is the Outdoor Heaven East Broadcasting
Convolution. And here is what's been going on in the news. Okay, Greg, what have you seen first in
the news that you'd like to share with me and our lovely listeners? Well, I think this one's

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right up our street. This one comes from Glasgow Live on the 16th of April, which is a couple of days
ago on it. Rod Stewart's doppelganger spotted working on roads in humorous video with these
viewers and stitches. The rockers double known as "road Stewart" was seen in high viz overall,

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standing beside a highway response vehicle earlier this month. The side of the road was cordoned off
with traffic cones as the worker sporting the iconic spiky blonde hair reminiscent of the Maggie
Mace singer stood by looking bemused. A video clip captured this amazing, this amusing scene set to
the soundtrack of Sir Rod's hit "Do You Think Come Sexy?" It's taken social media by storm,

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racking up over 1.5 million views on TikTok. The footage came with a wetty caption.
It's road short, sending social media into fits el-after.
Quitting "roadside assistance" another time then with...
Another time then with the first pot holes the deepest. Very good. Very, very good.

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While Dan joked, "Paving, we are paving." Billy Fleming made a playful nod to Rod's classic tune with
this old road of mine being tarmac to 1,000 times. Lisa chimed in, noting a recent post about the
actual Rod Stewart filling pot holes in his local area questioning, "Wait, I saw a post the other day

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that actual Rod Stewart has been filling in pot holes where he lives. Are you sure this isn't him?"
Back in November 2022, the real Rod surprised his followers by posting videos for himself
tackling pot holes near his residence. Sir Rod's a passionate Celtic Aussie supporter,
one hope that against him, took it upon himself to tackle the deplorable road conditions

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outside his residence, dawning his Celtic track suit and high visibility vest for the task.
In a video, the singer explained that the road was in such a dire state that an ambulance had
suffered a bus tire and his Ferrari was unable to navigate it.
Under the teardre, Sir Rod accompanied by friends and a truckload he would gravel set about

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repairing the pot-hold road surface. He rightly remarked that he was taking matters in
his own hands since nobody had been bothered to do it. This proactive endeavour comes in the
heels of an intriguing incident in which a suspicious individual, bathing in uncanny resemblance to
Sir Rod, was spotted roaming gardens and falcork. The mysterious look alike captured

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on Ring Doorbell footage, a merge from a white van and seem to be casing homes in the village of
Redding. However, upon noticing the camera at the doppelganger hastily retreated to his van and drove away.
So there we go. Sir Rod has responded in a humorous response. Bro, he said, "No, it's definitely not me.
I wouldn't be seen dead in that cobbler." Jesus. Sir Rod has recently made a monumental

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declaration about his career pledging never to retire, a revelation that sent his devoted
van based into a state of euphoria. I'm going to get a bit carried away there this journalist, I think.
The 18-year-old music legend took to Instagram, sharing an iconic snapshot of himself
commanding the stage in his signature, leopard print jacket and pinstriped trousers.
"I shall never retire. I was put in this earth to be a singer and we'll keep doing it for as long

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as the good Lord lets me," Rod proclaimed, as one and a half million followers. So there we go.
He's going to play it glass in the middle of this year.
Sir Rod.
It's 23 years after the last time he was there.
Have you ever seen Rod's shirt live?
I have not.
No, I can take it you half of you.
Yeah, I saw him in Dubai, finally enough.
Supported by Spando Balli.

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It's a fucking great concert.
It's a absolute brilliant night.
Full Spando lineup?
Yeah, well, full Spando lineup.
It must have been 12, 13 years ago now.
Could it be longer than that actually?
Yeah, it was full Spando lineup and then Rod's shirt.

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That was really good.
Yeah.
I like the story that, because it does seem like a good egg,
Rod's shirt, generally speaking.
And I like the story that,
a cut on the acceptable in the 80s told about when he was waiting outside the Chippewen Essex,
and Sir Rod popped out and he managed to persuade Rod to sign the paper that his fishing chips was wrapped in.

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It was happy to do it.
Ferrari idling at the side of the road,
where they nipped in, they get a couple of suppers.
I'm glad he responded to that as well, because he does seem like a good egg.
The famous one is that image of a cottage with a fatched roof,
and someone tweeted him, and he just replied, "Fuck's sake."

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Yeah, it was.
And of course, he will always be gui immortalised of him being pished to doing the Scottish Cup draw.
Oh yeah.
I forgot another boat that was brilliant.
So loot, wedgent.
Yeah, despite the fact he's a massive Celtic fan.

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I've got a lot of time for Rod's shirt, he's a legend.
I do.
And he comes up for the Scotland games and stuff as well.
I think he says that is bad with Scottish, I believe, right?
Yeah, I believe so.
Yeah, he does feel a strong bond to Scotland.
Anyway, that was a old Sir Rod shirt there.

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He can always count on a Scottish social media to deliver some absolute bangers.
What is your first story this week?
My first story is also regarding Scottish icons, and it's from the daily record this week.
It's about the UN seeking to establish, they're effectively compiling like definitive lists of

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cultural gems from around the world.
So the article looks at what is it that makes us Scottish from the ridiculous to the sublime?
The Slosh, the Roland Square sausage, and Irvin Edinburgh's New Year's Day,
Looney Duke are all in line to become official UN symbols of Scottish culture.

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This isn't an April fool, but government ministers are seeking to harvest ideas for the things,
no matter how daft or obscure, that set Scots apart from the rest of the UK and the wider world.
A list of suitable candidates for the inventory of living heritage have been provided by the UK
government, which include the Scottish Wedding Scramble, Shetlands, Upheliath,

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Festival, and Haggis Hurling, a staple of Highland Games.
The cultural troll has been sparked by the UK government's move last year to join UNESCO's
Convention for the safeguarding of intangible cultural heritage.
My God, I'm glad we're recording this in the morning, and not after a few beers.
Say that.
The global heritage body will compile a catalogue of things from the worlds of art, literature,

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sport, social customs, food, all of which will capture the quintessential essence of Scottishness.
Guidance from the UK's Government's Department of Cultural Media and Sport details how the aim is
to dig deep into the quirky gems of the nation. They state, UK government want communities to dig deep,
and nominate the practices that demonstrate what it truly means to be Scottish.

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From line dancing the slosh at a Scottish wedding to rustling up Granny's favourite tablet recipe,
or indulging in every Scotts' favourite weekend breakfast, a roll on square sausage,
a bec de differ. Examples in Scotland could include Hogan A celebrations,
Shetlands, Upheliath, January Fire Festival, or the common writings that take place in the

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borders every summer. The common world. The common writings that take place in the Scottish
borders every summer. I presume that's where they ride commoners because the borders are quite
posh aren't they? Maybe they just get their servant and ride them round the borders.
I don't know if then watch some ruggers. I thought the wood was just taking advantage of the good weather.

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Riding on the common. I don't know. You can look that up actually and see what that is.
There's room for traditional things like kilp making or the barren's night address to the
lassies to be recognised, but also scope for more off the wall customs, like haggis hurling or a
scramble a wedding. That's a great thing. East coasters may want to nominate Edinburgh's

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loony duke or west coast islanders could throw in blackenings where bride and grooms are to be covered
in suit, trickle flower and feathers ahead of their noptials by their nearest and dearest.
Despite a clear focus on capturing new cultural phenomenon, the door remains open for some classics,
which could include whiskey, shortbread, ironbrew, porridge, calais, bagpipes, haggis, and ben nevis.

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Deep fried Mars Mars and buck fast may also be suggested, but that might not be quite
put the UNESCO or after. Areas that might offer cultural diamonds to be immortalised include
oral expression, which covers songs, stories and poetry. Don't get too excited Greg.
Music festivals like Celtic Connections, where we saw wild rose perform, which was unfortunate,

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or Billardrum could also feature, and many will no doubt wish the Edinburgh festival to be enshrined.
Nature land and spirituality category opens the door to a universe of options from island hopping
to mountain climbing and whale spotting. Sport will also feature, we want to include things that
represent our uniqueness, and sense of humour and pride in our country. A respect for our age

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old traditions will be covered, but that too should what's important to us in modern Scottish life.
It all ties in with our commitment to Brand Scotland, celebrating everything about Scottish life
and promoting Scotland globally. So the daily record have come up with seven wonders of Scottish
culture, and they've all been mentioned, it's the slosh, rolling square sausage, the Luniduke,

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upheliia, wedding scramble, blacknings and haggisherling. So, have you got any suggestions of something
that should be added into that? So I guess, a Scottish activity, calling someone a cunt,
calling someone a cunt, yeah. I think we, well I say we, I think it was mostly you,
blackened or a mutual friend in Madrid, came to them. I mean it wasn't really a blackening,

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it was just a net on his head and sprayed shaving foam into his eyes.
I mean, the proper, I think my brother-in-law got a proper blackening and got shrug naked covered in
tar and feathers and handcuffed to a roundabout in dice. I think it told me that actually, yeah.
That's horrendous. Yeah, it would be yes. You did use to see it though, like on a, usually a Friday afternoon,

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you'd be driving or somewhere and you would see someone tied to a lamp post covered in feathers,
and people just beeping as they go past, like to congratulate them. I've got a photograph of my
papa, my dad's, my paternal grandfather, the day before his wedding and it looks like he's been
ambushed at his work. So he's still got his apron, he's not posterer, so he's still got his apron

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and everything on. And they've just sort of tied balloons around his neck and put like a funny hat on him
and stuff. It's obviously, it's, as the years have gone by, it's kind of galloping momentum.
When I lived in, when I lived in Maud, in Aberdeenshire, if any of the kids found out it was a birthday,
they would argue in the way home from school. They egg and found it. They're luckily for me,

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my birthday was always during a school holidays, so it never happened to me, but there was a few people
who happened to all the time and they would just sort of accept it, you know what I mean, it's tight-willed.
Yeah, they could, they could, they could, you know, because if you've run away, you just get it twice as bad
the next day. Yeah, so yeah, I think they've gone with, in terms of their suggestion of the

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generic things, when you read the list, you're like, oh really, but I guess that is what defines
Scotland. Whiskey shortbread, iron-brue, porridge, Kale's, bagpipes, haggis and Ben Nevis. Yeah.
Well, I think I, if you could be represented by something, they're all good things we're represented by.
You know, bloody good list, to be honest, I'm quite happy about that, yeah. I'm thinking of having a
birthday supper here next year and I just know who I want to invite, so I want to make people

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that appreciate it, but you could probably get like a haggis, there's butchers here who are
with import a haggis and yes, it could do it quite easily, um, that whiskey on a school night, um,
British just towards Ryan Vaite, um, to, um, you know, who I think is going to, is going to appreciate it,
you know, you want someone that's going to not take the piss and appreciate the heritage and culture.

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I want someone who's going to be interested in the sort of ritualistic aspects and cultural aspects
of it, you know, I like the idea of, uh, of reading the address to the haggis at the table before I
cut it open and all that, you know, and maybe thrown about or maybe thrown a wee bit of Burns
Atlum now and again, you know, um, yeah, you know, I think they have very respectable list of things

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there, not sure about a dad's tenant supper, maybe. I was going to say tenants, I should really
be added to the list definitely. Yeah. So the Lager Lovelies is a sort of, um, maybe not modern
heritage, but heritage of a bigo and era when it was acceptable. It's definitely something that, uh, is,
yeah, should be, um, what's the word I'm looking for here sort of retained and, um, yeah, upheld as a,

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a cultural icon of our times, the tenants, Lager Lovelies. Yes, Ali. Get mentioned quite a lot
as podcasts. Absolutely. We have fun memories of them. The cornerstone of playgrounds up and
down the country in the Monday morning, before the journey, the chance to get round and collect,
boy, but a slightly rusted tenants can have a Lager Lovelies on it. Yeah, exactly. That one

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wonderful. Yeah, the cans used to rust a lot quicker back in the day, didn't they? But I guess
they were made of different material. Yeah, of course, made of highly toxic metals, opposed to the,
other medium that they from, yeah, that's very true. Yeah. Well, let's see what, uh, comes up on that
list. Um, I think James Cosmo should be added to the list. Cosmo should be on there. Yeah, modern,

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rods, rods, um, and the crankies. Yeah, crankies. Yeah. Um, it's just you mentioned in black and
he reminded me of something, um, when I was leaving Frankie and Benny's and Aberdeens moved back to
Glasgow, somebody had left a week before, uh, and, and his last shift, they took him out of the back
with strapped him to a chair and like soaked him with the hose. And I knew that they were planning on

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doing that to me and I was like, fuck, that, they are not doing that. So the series I was finished,
I just like slipped out. So I'm halfway up the beach Boulevard on my way home. And do you remember
a shame? The Irish failed, wasn't it? So I'll have a couple of guys come pulling up in his car,
to try and drag me into the car, right? To me back into it. Shane's got cable ties. The

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chains of the up. Like, what the fuck you do with cable ties? You're fucking creepy sex pest.
They got a surprise me actually. I got a shovel on a blanket in a bit of these cars as well.
I, uh, I was just thinking about him the other day. Oh, really? Um, well, I was getting a head start
and, um, making clips for the best of the news, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, which will come out in December,

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January, but get the head start. And, um, it was the, you were telling the story of, um, pizza
pooch again. Oh, yeah. Somebody did a whole shift wearing the pizza pooch shoes.
Shoes. And I was like, I bet that was Shane. But it was, it was, it was, no, he'd been
done that. It was, uh, it was the boss's brother, Gekko Gekko. Okay. That's then I saw him, my friend

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Scott Ironside, who is in one day the moveals, but we're still not done. I'm off to get it done soon.
Uh, he was doing some, he was doing some stand up and what used to be Poonana. I was up on Aberdeen
for work and, uh, mean some friends meant to see him and Shane happen to be there. So it was really
good night of light. It was sort of like, uh, it was like a competition. I think there was like,
up, there was like a spot at the festival where supporting somebody up for grabs. So we saw

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maybe about a dozen comics varying, um, standards. Some were very, very good. Some were absolutely
fucking dreadful. And, uh, Shane was there. So afterwards we're having a drink with Scott. Then Shane
starts telling the spike outrageous lie about when he used to do stand up at seasons at Aberdeen
Union in the afternoon. And I was just like, I was just, I got a couple of drinks and I was like,

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you know, you didn't. I said, I remember when, when seasons opened, when they opened that
season's bar, I was, uh, Aberdeen college just round the corner and I would be sad. And we were
in there probably every day of the week because they had, they had fruit, they had fruit machines that
had 200 pound jackpots. So a lot of people's grant money would enter those, enter those fruit machines.

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We were in there every day. I was like, you're fucking liar. And he's like, no, no, I said,
what you fuck? I said, I can't believe it. I can't believe you'd say that.
- There's no name for 15 years.
It's the first time you'd ever mentioned,
being a amateur stand-up comic.
(laughs)

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- You might even be a fucking shouldn,
how did you get all the year to stand up?
- Can I incund?
- That's the best thing.
You weren't even a fucking student.
- I was working at via my mom.
- Next to the Parliament now.
- Oh, yeah, never mind.
- Never mind.
- Okay, so, yeah, so let's see what gets added

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to the UNESCO cultural list.
- Okay, Greg, what else have you seen this week?
So again, I think I've done the double this week
in terms of just the sort of story
we had in mind when we set out on this podcast,
journey that would be on for the last five years,
almost five years.
So this comes from Scotch Sun,

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(laughs)
in the 15th of April.
The headline is "Breaking it."
I thought I was going deaf,
but I had a legal bricks luck in my year
for 20 years.
- Jesus.
- My doctors are just sat in silence for a moment,
genuinely dumbfounded.
This is Darren McConaughey from Glasgow.
Yeah, being to the doctor regarding hearing loss

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and he'd been prescribed antibiotics,
assuming it was an ear infection.
Pictures are fucking...
I don't know what's made fun of Darren,
but the pictures have taken off them
are absolutely brilliant.
However, the 30-year-old later woke up in the middle
of the night feeling a surge of pressure in the side of his head
and then to his horror, he felt something dislodged

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inside his ear and start to move
and he couldn't have been prepared
for what turned out to be the true root cause.
Darren said,
"I thought my year had ruptured.
The pressure kept building and building it was unbearable.
Then I felt something small and hard sort of pop out.
I felt the object and realized it was loose.
I thought it was a piece of my inner ear.

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I was absolutely terrified."
But as I held a little object in my hand,
using my phone torch in the dark,
I couldn't even believe what I was looking at.
A tiny piece of pink Lego covered in wax
where the pain and pressure gone
and the sound back in his left ear,
Darren's immediate relief turned to confusion.
Darren, who was 24 at the time, said,

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"I had they played but Lego for years."
Not since I was a wee boy.
I never really played with it after the age of four or five.
I've had much prefered wrestling figures
or playing football my brothers.
Imagine if I'd known what warrior
lodged in his ear, you know, has no?

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"It must have been around the millennium
when I last built enohin" by Lego.
I don't remember sticking a brick in my ear.
But however it got there,
I reckon it was lodged there for the best part of the 20 year.
For most of my life, I had no problems with my hearing.
That was only something that started when I got into my 20s.

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A genuine, they had no clue it was in my ear all that time.
I returned visit to his local GP,
left a doctor, speech this,
is Darren produced the children's play piece from his pocket.
And inquired as to whether that was the requisite he's hearing issue.
(laughing)
Darren, my doctor just sat in silence for a moment,

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genuinely dumbfounded.
She told me it wasn't the first time she'd seen a piece of Lego
in this circumstance,
but it was the first piece she'd ever heard of
that'd been buried in someone's ear for so long.
But from looking me over, she was confident.
They were no more pieces of Lego stuck in my head.
(laughing)
Unsurprisingly, Darren's own family and friends thought he was in the wind up

(29:47):
after I produced a tiny Lego piece.
Darren said, "In fairness, my brothers were actually great.
They could tell there wasn't a lot of pain
and actually went and got my prescription for me
because I was so exhausted.
But after just a few days of taking the medicine,
the Lego popped out and suddenly I felt like I was in my own,
who'd done it?"
My brothers enjoyed making a few jokes about the situation.

(30:09):
And we all wondered how'd put it in my ear.
I don't think I would have put a piece of Lego in my own ear.
One of my brothers looked more sheepish than the others.
(laughing)
And I can't say with absolute certainty that he didn't do it.
(laughing)
Darren added, "My hearing today is actually very good
and usually I can hear things but surely people can't."
(laughing)

(30:31):
Like a dog.
(laughing)
(laughing)
And sometimes I believe, sometimes I believe it might be down to the piece of Lego
just cleaning out all the gunk.
I've kept a wee piece of Lego because I wasn't really sure what to do with it.
It seemed a bit harsh to toss it in the bin after 20 or so years.

(30:51):
It's like it's a part of me.
Darren is speaking out now to raise awareness of Welles' pharmacies new earwax removal service,
which has unveiled new technology which can suction ears to allow you for the safe removal of earwax.
Unlike traditional methods which rely on water, irrigation,
micro-suction is a quicker and medically recommended procedure that provides instant relief.

(31:14):
Oh!
I've really enjoyed that.
(laughing)
Still nice, fantastic.
That is absolutely fantastic.
20 years, a bit of Lego stuck in his ear and what I love about that is that he's got
no idea how it got there in the first place.
Fix his brother-face.
Yeah, well he was looking cheapish, wasn't he?
So I love that in terms of the, I've got my own who done it in terms of, it was his brother

(31:43):
in the kitchen with the Lego piece.
Yeah, he's got it.
I've just said you this.
The picture that Darren honestly is the expression of his face.
Have a look at your phone.
He looks bemused.
It does.
It's like he's, yeah.
He looks very surprised and shocked and confused about what has just been removed from

(32:05):
his ear.
Having recently had ear infection, I can say it's not very fun, but yeah, I can imagine
having something stuck in my ear for 20 years.
Jesus.
No, I know.
It's just where he said, I didn't play with Lego for years.
Maybe playing the other day.

(32:25):
Just accidentally, they stuck a wee legal stud in his look.
I just don't know how, I mean, the only thing I could imagine would be maybe if he's,
I don't know, falling on it or falling asleep on Lego, but yeah, and it somehow worked
its way in, but I, well, I guess maybe his brother did drop it in and poke it in.

(32:49):
I don't know if you would notice.
You have to think so, right?
I remember when my sister was wee, she had a friend round to play and they were playing
with a Lego and her friends for some reason, you know, there would be Lego flowers, like
the wee, like the wee sort of petal bit of it.
She stuck when I even put her nose and she wasn't able to sort of get it out and she

(33:10):
was only wee, she had to think she must have been about.
Or something.
So my mum's a nurse, so my mum was like, come on, I'll get it out for you, but she was crying,
every time she was, she sort of sniffed, it was going to further up.
Oh, no!
So my mum had to get the tweezers into her nose and they just gently put it out, like an
operation, you know?
Oh, do you think it's a bit growling up her nose?

(33:32):
She just swallowed it, the, the, the, the, the, the body would have projected it eventually.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, it would have, yeah, it would have been, if she'd timed it well, it would have just
come out her mouth.
Yeah, it would have, yeah, come out the other end.
Oh well, wonderful.
I don't think I've ever had anything stuck up my nose or, no, my ear, no, not that I can think

(33:53):
of.
But I big kid stuck a bit of chewing gum to my eyebrow when I was like in the first year
at secondary school, like, took, took some of my eyebrow with it when it was removed.
Oh, but yeah, I've never had that and stuck up my nose for my ear, but anyway.
Anyway, thank you, Dad, and for being on the, and for being on the, and for being on the
best planet.
And that was the biggest laugh I've had in fucking ages and I'm glad that you're feeling

(34:16):
a lot better.
So that was my second story, what you got for us next.
This isn't really, yeah, a funny one, but I just thought it would spark maybe a bit of
conversation and debate, possibly.
This is from Glasgow Times this week, and it concerns a concert, a phone's banned from
Glasgow Hydro Gig as fans warned.

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And Glasgow Gidgoers will be banned from using their mobile phones during a concert at
the OVO Hydro.
Swedish rockers Ghost will perform at the venue on Wednesday, April 16th, so it's passed
as part of their Skeleture World Tour.
However, before the event, the Hydro has reminded fans it will be a phone free experience.

(34:59):
This means the use of mobile phones, cameras or recording devices will not be permitted in
the performance space.
A gig.
Announcing the band of venues set upon arrival, concert Giro's phones will be secured in a
Yonder pouch that will be opened at the end of the event.
During the show, music fans will maintain possession of their device, but they will only
be able to use them in designated phone use areas.

(35:21):
The Hydro is also warned that anyone seen using a phone during the performance will be
removed from the venue.
A Yonder pouch is a lockable magnetic pouch designed to store mobile phones and create
a phone free space.
A OVO Hydro spokesperson said, "Please remember that Ghosts show the next week as a phone free
experience.
Upon arrival at the venue, all phones will be secured in Yonder pouches that will be opened

(35:43):
at the end of the event."
As I just repeat, an ex-alley was just been said.
"Anyone seen using a mobile phone during the performance will be escorted out at the
venue, guests are encouraged to bring a bank or credit card for purchases inside the
venue.
We appreciate your cooperation in creating a phone free viewing experience."
Now, I was at a concert last night.
Just the amount of phones.

(36:07):
The woman next to me recorded the whole concert.
I think her phone battery died or ran out of space and then she started using her boyfriend's
phone to record the rest of it.
I'm like, "Are you going to watch that back?
What are you going to do with it?"
Just the amount of phones and stuff that were coming out and recording.

(36:30):
I took one photo and it was literally just a send to you guys to be like, "Hey, look,
I'm here."
That was it.
My phone stayed in my pocket the whole gig.
I was guilty of it in the past.
I think taking videos and things, but no, not so much because I want to enjoy the experience.
I don't know how do you feel?

(36:51):
I understand that completely.
I don't.
The last big concert I went to was Guns and Roses.
I did film a couple of bits of songs that I liked and took a couple of photographs, but
that was all.
The thing is, those videos now, they literally exist on the off chance that I have a conversation

(37:14):
with somebody.
We get talking about Guns and Roses.
I mentioned that he's Son of an Abu Dhabi.
Do you want to see some pictures?
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I don't go back and watch them again.
You know?
I think it's nice to have a couple of pictures as maybe like a mental over the gig,
but to your point, you know what?
You don't want it to be standing, holding your phone up for all through a concert.

(37:34):
You know what I mean?
It's just that it's, you're going to get a soul arm for one and it's annoying for the person
behind you, you know?
And I think absolutely what you said, just like go and enjoy the experience of being there.
Like being that moment, you know, instead of trying to preserve it for another time,
it wouldn't have to be the same.
Yeah, because we were standing, it was kind of an odd venue, but it was like a little

(37:55):
raised bit, so we were stood there.
And the girl next to me, there was a couple in front of her, but they were kind of standing
a little apart.
So she was kind of filming through the gap, but then occasionally they would come together
to have a little cuddle or whisper something and she was like lifting the phone above
them to continue filming.
You're like, how can you be arsed with this?

(38:16):
No, I know.
And we, and realistically, what you're going to do with that?
You know, say you want the whole thing over again?
I don't think so.
That's the thing.
It's just struck me a bit strange.
You know, like I say, it was a case that, you know, looking around the room, there was phones
out everywhere and people recording and you know, they're fiddling about to try and get

(38:36):
the good angle and they're like, well, you're not enjoying the moment.
You know, enjoying this song, really, are you?
No, I know.
And I remember when we met this, we met the team apart.
I remember you taking a few pictures, but I think it was only just the Wutan climb because
we were right near the front.
So you were able to get a couple of good shots of the, of the, of the climb, doing their thing.

(38:59):
But I don't remember you taking pictures of anyone else, from where they are, you know?
No, I don't think I did.
Yeah.
I don't.
I think we should just have a disposable camera or something as well.
You never took a good camera, did you?
No, no, I've just been a disposable one, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
People's behavior at concerts is, although the one thing that I will say, I remember that
Guns and Roses when they played November rain and I, we were down near the front and I looked

(39:25):
up behind me and everybody had their sort of phone light zone.
So I guess it would be like the old days and people would like have the lighters up, you
know?
Yeah.
And I thought, well, that's quite cool.
Yeah.
You know, it's sort of adds to the performance.
But yeah, I've heard, like I heard Susan McCabe talking about how people behaving at concerts
on the Here Comes Agility and Pod.
And I've heard some, a few others, I've heard John Robbins talking about it on the Ellison

(39:49):
John Pod as well.
And yeah, some people do behave like fucking absolute fanatics at gigs.
They behave like they're the only ones there.
These people are playing just for them and fucking everybody else.
I remember my mum tell them, she went to, I heard a mistake that I went to see, you know,
the world of the world's album.
So the Jeff Wayne who wrote it, they were doing like a live tour of it.

(40:13):
And every now and again, they'll tour it live occasionally, like, but it's up performance.
And they went, they went to see it in London at the '02 and Justin Hayward, who sings on
the original, was performing the songy sings in the live performance as well.
And my mother's like, honestly, this big fat woman sitting next to me, Justin Hayward came

(40:33):
on this, came on and she's just screaming, Justin, Justin, like she's at a fucking Beatles concert.
I was like, all right, it comes out, you know what she's like, actually singing along to every
word, to every song, she can't sing and I was like, that's, but generally what people do
it, but since the last time you went to like a concert mother, you know what I mean?
Oh, dear.

(40:54):
Well, yeah, I don't know how the concert went down and if people were upset at having to
lock their phone away, but yeah, it is what it is.
It's maybe a touch of, because I seem to remember, like before phones could do that.
And record videos to the sort of quality that they've been able to do for the last 10 or 12

(41:15):
years.
Obviously, you are, they'll take any kind of recording equipment into live performance.
And you can't really stop, you know, I mean, with the best well in the world, the Hyde
you are not going to get every single phone, you know, especially if they're sending it.
So I wonder, is there a degree of maybe the performers don't want their songs to be recorded,

(41:38):
live or they don't want to be filmed, you know, pictures taken and stuff?
Because I know that was always quite a sensitive issue in the past, right?
I presume it is, yeah, the band that have declared this.
So yeah, I think that is the case.
I do remember reading about a concert a couple of years ago, a Canberra who it was.

(41:59):
It was some big name and they did exactly the same thing, but it wasn't for copyright issues.
Because they wanted people to enjoy the concert and they fed up of looking out to just a
sea of phones.
Yeah.
And yeah, I heard that as well, actually.
A Canberra who it was though.
But yeah, I think it's, I don't know, fair enough.
It's just one of those things.
I think it's fair enough.

(42:20):
I mean, hey, if you'd like to go to a concert and you want to film it, that's up to you,
but yeah, I don't think it's, no, you paid all that money to go and see a band or artist
and just to watch it through your phone screen, but just you could just sit and watch it on
YouTube, I think.
I'm looking slightly, and maybe that's the worry.
Maybe the worry that people are sticking up on YouTube and stuff.

(42:40):
Yeah.
That's maybe, yeah, I mean, I, I, I, my friends here used to work for the one of the big cinema
companies.
My daughter and I got invited to a couple of premieres, like Middle East Premiers.
We went to, we went to see Black Widow and we went to see the suicide squad and we had
to put our phones into one of those little pouches before they were better than to sit down

(43:01):
in a case, we filmed it.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, oh well, fair do's.
Okay.
Right.
Have you seen anything else this week, Greg?
Nope.
Would you like to play a quick game?
I definitely would.
Well, since it is our 125th episode, I thought we'd play a quick game of player Swally
Right.
So, player Swally Right is just like player cards, right?

(43:24):
It's higher or lower game.
A point for everyone you get right, but you lose a point for everyone you get wrong.
Okay.
I'm going to give you the name of a Swally favorite and you can tell me how, I'm going to tell
you how many episodes they've been in in the Swally.
Right.
Okay.
And I'll give you the name of another Swally favorite and I want you to tell me if the
number of episodes they've been in higher or lower.
So for example, I say the crankies who have been in one episode and then I said Gary

(43:47):
Lewis.
Yeah.
Would you say higher or lower?
Definitely higher.
Higher.
Because he's been in 10 episodes of the culture.
So, okay.
Let's stick with Gary Lewis at 10.
All right.
I'll give you an easy one to start.
Okay.
So, Gary Lewis on 10.
Now we've got, Claire Grogon, the lovely Claire Grogon is higher or lower than 10?
Lower.

(44:07):
That is correct.
Lower.
Claire Grogon's appeared in three episodes of the culture Swally.
All right.
So we've got three on Claire Grogon.
Who's the next card?
Oh, it's Bobby Carlyle.
Bobby Carlyle.
Higher or lower than three with Claire Grogon?
Lower.
You think lower at Carlyle has been in less than three episodes?
Train spotting.
Train spotting too.

(44:28):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's lower.
Okay.
No, Bobby Carlyle has been in five episodes because the culture Swally.
But you've got it.
Train spotting, Train spotting, Train spotting too, looking after Joe Joe.
Oh, yeah.
Barney Thompson.
And what else?
It was just something else because he's got five appearances.
Can't remember what the fifth one is.
But yeah.
He's been in.

(44:49):
Yeah.
That's an order.
Okay.
I'll see you again.
Okay.
Bobby Carlyle is on five appearances.
Next up, Ford Kearnin.
Ford Kearnin of Tune the Fat theme.
Higher or lower than five?
Tune the Fat.
The Billy Cone, they won with the, they'll be fell out of small faces.
Name of which I'm going.
Still game.
Lower.

(45:09):
Lower than five.
Ford Kearnin has been in eight episodes of the culture Swally Greg.
We did deer green place.
We did, um, did, um, uh, what was the, the field of blood?
Two series of that.
Of course.
Um, yeah.
He's been in quite a few things.
I wasn't Ford Kearnin.
He popped up in a couple of other little things, um, in just like a little roll.

(45:30):
There was something, who was it?
We did something big that he was in.
I really should have got the Swally up for this, right?
Anyway.
Ford Kearnin.
He was in the very, very, very lonely one.
It was, yeah.
Was that the deck collector?
Deck collector.
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
Okay.
Ford Kearnin on eight.
Okay.
Next up, Jonathan Watson.
Right.
Jonathan Watson.
Higher or lower than eight?

(45:51):
Yeah.
Good quiz, then.
Then yourself down here.
Uh, let me think.
Join me Watson.
Has been in, uh, naked video.
He's been in city lights.
He's been in two doors down.
Maybe I've said two doors down.
Been in, uh, did all the, was it?
All the other boxes?
All the, that's fine.
I think he's in Scotch and dry.
Was he as well?
Or was he, um, yeah, possibly?
He was in that film, um, was it let us in?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(46:12):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I was in the, um, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Was it let us pray?
Let us pray.
Um, he was in that, um, guilt series three, wasn't he?
Mmm-hmm.
I'm going to say higher.
Jonathan Watson has appeared in 13 episodes.
Yes.
Yes.

(46:33):
As the culture swell acre eggs.
Come on, we've got a point there.
Give you a point for that.
All right.
13.
Okay.
Uh, next up.
Oh, look who it is.
It's Mac Costello.
Mac Costello.
Higher.
[laughs]
Shockingly.
Costello has been in 12 episodes.
Oh, no, really?
I thought it would be higher as well, but no.
12 episodes for Costello.
So you've lost a point there, so you're back on zero.

(46:56):
All right.
Costello, 12.
That's a high one, though.
Yeah.
So let's go with Jamie Sives.
Next.
Jamie Sives.
Higher or lower than 12 appearances on this swallow.
Lower.
Lower is correct.
He's appeared six times on the culture swallow.
Okay.
Well, we'll rule is Rob Roy.
Yeah.

(47:17):
Well, we did the series of guilt and then we did Wilbur
wants to come.
Yeah, that's right.
Wild Rose and then yeah, the Rob Roy.
Rob Roy, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Jamie Sives on six.
Next up.

(47:38):
Oh, it's Barbara Rafferty.
Barbara Rafferty.
Higher or lower than six?
So, Rapsy, the Wicker Man.
I'm going to say the word.
Barbara Rafferty has been in seven episodes of the culture swallow.
I'm sorry about that.
I'm sorry.
Oh, dear.
Yes.
Seven episodes.
Yeah, she's been in.
She's been in quite a few little small parts as well.

(48:00):
Yeah.
Small parts, which she just pops up.
Yeah.
Been in quite a few things.
Okay.
Barbara Rafferty on seven.
Next.
Brian McCarty.
Brian McCarty.
Higher or lower than seven appearances?
McCarty.
I'm going to say the word.
Brian McCarty has been in six episodes of the culture swallow.
Yes.

(48:21):
All right.
Last couple that we have here.
Patrons saying that the culture swallow.
Sir, James Cosmo.
Higher or lower than six?
Higher.
James Cosmo has been in nine episodes of the culture swallow.
Oh, the 90 to rectify that.
Oh, the 90.
Wow.
Only 90 can you believe it.
Yeah.
Cosmo has only been in nine.
So, we need to rectify that.
And finally then.

(48:42):
Higher or lower than nine.
He was a big favor early doors.
Well, haven't done anything for a while.
Dave Anderson.
Oh, this is Alex Norton.
Dave Anderson.
I think he has been.
I'm going to say higher.
Higher than Cosmo.
Correct.
He's been in ten episodes of the culture swallow.
Only just higher.
Was that three points then?

(49:03):
Yeah, three points.
Yeah.
I should have heard my student up there.
And that concludes.
Play your swallow right.
Yeah.
I watched an episode of Play Your Cards right to just get the gist and it was a Scottish couple
that were on it.
He was wearing his guilt.
Did he?
I didn't watch to the end.

(49:24):
I just watched it to get the gist of higher or lower.
Then I forgot.
They have to answer questions and then they get to go.
And then I was going to do the, I did have a Gerard Kelly on six as well and I was going
to give the nothing for a pair.
Not in this game.
But then I was like, I don't know how that's going to work.
So just leave it.
But yes, there we go.

(49:46):
So you need to brush up on that Greg.
Play your swallow right.
That's been a hundred to five episodes.
You know.
I know.
There's been a few examples of my cognitive decline this week.
I thought I was just tired.
Yeah.
I was just quite shocked as well.
Yeah.
Fort Curenan.
Eight that he's been in.
Yeah.
At the top though, I didn't include the top three, which could be I should have done at

(50:10):
the moment.
So in third place, we have Peter Mullin.
He's been in 14 episodes.
Well, culture.
Well, second place is Alex Norton, who has been in 15 episodes of the culture.
Well, he and out in front on his own 16 appearances in 125 episodes.
Greg first even McColl.
So there you go.

(50:31):
He should be the, he needs to be the new patron saint of the podcast.
Possibly.
Steven, if you're listening, we're open to offers with a rotating patron saint, but yeah,
no, we can't do that to Cosmo, but yeah, I know.
Steven McColl in Everything Scottish.
Right.
That concludes players.
Well, he right.
Yeah, that's right.
Players, well, he right.
Okay.

(50:52):
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(51:13):
Okay, Greg.
So it was your choice of what we're going to be talking about today.
So what do you tell us what we're going to be discussing for the next day or so?
So I went for, I mean, it's a good age this drama now.
We're going back to 2016 with the BBC four part mystery mini-series.
One of us when it was on it was a Netflix as a retribution.

(51:38):
Sadly, it's been removed from Netflix.
It was removed a couple of years ago.
I'm not sure why it is out there.
You can find it if you want to go the Onish route.
It is on the Apple store.
It's on a BBC iPlayer as well.
I'm BBC iPlayer.
There you go.
Two Onish routes.
It sports an all-star cast, including Laura Fraser, John Lynch, Judy Graeme,

(52:00):
Swally favourite Joanna Vanderham, Gary Lewis, and making the second appearance on the culture
swally in as many episodes, young Christian or Tegah.
Neighboring families, the Douglasses and the Elliot's lives are turned upside down after daughter Grace Douglas and son Adam Elliot are brutally murdered.

(52:21):
A man arrives at their homes in the middle of the night in the midst of a storm who appears to be the killer.
The Grief and Families become involved in a murder conspiracy after the man is found dead.
Before we start, this is very much a hood on it.
I don't know if it's up there with the mystery of who put the leg going down in zear, but it will keep you guessing until the last episode.

(52:49):
If you want to watch it, before you hear us talk about it, then stop now, go and find it and come back to it because we will obviously give the game away in the midst of our conversation.
So this was a, neither of us had seen this before.
It could have passed us by.
I was living out here when it was on.
You were living out here as well when it was first shown in 2016.

(53:12):
Quite a traditional hood on it, really.
I thought, you know, big cast, that sort of connected agatha, crusty vaymes, big cast, everybody having motives of their own, you know, anybody could have done it.
How does you enjoy one of us this last retribution?
I did enjoy it.
I did. I'm a sucker for four part shows like this where it's just the stories concluded.

(53:37):
I did enjoy it.
It's quite tense to watch because it's just full of people who just seem to be making wrong decisions.
And just like fucking things up.
Exactly like you said, I did like, because I think I've rang about this time.
There would have been a trend for I was thinking about shows like the fall or happy valley.
Yeah, that, the very much you know at the beginning who the bad person is, who the criminal, who the killer rapist murderer is.

(54:06):
And you're effectively, you know, it's almost like using a columbal method.
You know what's been done and you're watching how they get caught on film.
Exactly as you said, this is just gone with a traditional kind of agatha, crusty setup.
It's a remote setting set of characters all with secrets and a killer lurking in their number.
I thought the pacing of it was maybe a little bit off in terms of the first episode, it's a bit bonkers.

(54:33):
Like, because a lot happens and it's quite chaotic because a lot going on.
You're trying to get to know the characters, you try to work out what's going on.
And then I thought the middle two episodes were just kind of a bit filler.
And I guess it was helping us get to know the characters a little bit better.
And then the last episode was just batshit crazy and just goes with wrapping everything up.
But yeah, I did enjoy it. I thought it was well done.

(54:56):
What I actually liked about it was that none of the characters were particularly likeable.
They all had sort of, I thought, some sort of element that you dislike them.
And you didn't kind of latch on to anyone and think, oh, it might be him or it might not be them.
But at the same time, I didn't feel a connection with any of them either, which I thought wasn't a great thing.
Kind of missed that. But yeah, overall, I enjoyed it.

(55:19):
What about you? What did you think about it?
I really enjoyed it. I don't know if I'm 100% agree.
I think the second episode for me, the first episode was good, you know, sets the story up, sets the steam.
We introduced, we meet all the characters and we learn a little bit about each of them.
And then I thought the second episode was a wee bit slow.

(55:40):
But I thought the third, by the time I got to the end of the third episode, I couldn't wait to watch the fourth.
I didn't have it figured out. I thought I did at one point and then I clearly didn't.
So the, of the families on the early side, we've got Joanna.
We've got Claire played by Joanna van der Ham, who plays DS Drummond.

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DS Man Drummond and Crime, who Nikke and I both like a lot.
There is Rob Elliott played by Joel Dempsey, who used to be in Skins.
Lots of other things. And Louise Elliott played by Juliet Stevenson.
And then the neighbour in Douglas is, just Bill Douglas played by Irish actor John Lynch.
Moira played by Julie Graham. Jamie played by Christian Ortega.

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And then there's Alistair, Gary Lewis, who seems to be a sort of handyman worker on the Douglas's farm, who's involved as well.
And then the police people who are investigating, there's Laura Fraser, who plays Juliet and Steve Avetz, who plays, what's his name, the character again?

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Why have I not written it down? Andrew.
So there's a lot going on. There's a lot of little subplots going on.
Some of them connecting to the story, particularly it turns out that Alistair played by Gary Lewis and Moira.
They played by Julie Graemer having a clandestine sexy affair.

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And that's what it is in later on.
There's the pole subplot with the old lady in the home, the Claire works in, who wants to commit assisted suicide.
And then there's the plot of the drugs, the acid tabs that Laura Fraser has stolen from evidence to sell to a drug dealer in order to pay for a life-saving operation for her daughter.

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There's a lot going on, which some of those subplots become a wee bit tiresome when you realize that they're not connected to the main plot.
You just want to get to find out all the rev, all the revelations and stuff.
And then a revelations go lower as the CD's goes on about the family.

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You see, the only one who is nice and earnest is Claire.
Moira is playing away from home.
Rob has been in jail, I think, before.

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And then, as she was on Sayanna, as well as girlfriend Anna played by Georgina Campbell, she's also a suspect.
And we find out that she's been raped before.
And Rob's been a good guy, supporting her, but he's obviously got issues.

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He's been stalking this rapist who seems to have gotten away with the crime and everything.
And then, bizarrely, we've got this Adrian Edminson is in there, playing the estranged husbands of Juliet of the wee's in the earlyates.
Who, you know, for his little story line, I thought, why would you pay for somebody like Adrian Edminson for that?

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I thought, you know, when I see him in the wedding video at the start, and you just think, he's going to be an integral part of this story.
He's got something to do with Bbblah.
And then, it doesn't even make it from London back to the North of Scotland, and they throw himself in a lorry.
Yeah, it did seem a little bit strange to have him in there in that little part.

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I agree.
Exactly as you've said, there are a lot of different storylines in this. I didn't think some of them were necessary, really.
The whole lorry freezer drugs storyline, I just didn't, why?
Was it just to show that she was corruptible and she's trying to pay for her daughter's operation?

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I don't know.
Well, I've got, I've got theory about that.
I wonder if there was a thought that this drama could maybe be a bit of a springboard for a series for that character.
I thought that, maybe, at one point, before she sort of flees the country at the end, I thought, I wonder if they were thinking they would set this up and we would have more stories for this character that lorry freezer plays.

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That's it though. I just didn't feel the ending was satisfactory in terms of her storyline.
Okay, so she's, I just thought, just talk about it now.
She's selling acid LSD to drug dealers to pay for her daughter's life-saving operation that they have to go to Mumbai for.

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And, effectively, the dealer gets busted. I did like that that she basically threatens to put child porn on his computer so that he gets into that was a nice little speech there.
In terms of, you know, what they do to pedify us in prison.
But in the end, yeah, so she effectively flees.

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She's often to Mumbai with her daughter to get the operation.
And then what, did Jayland her in it? Does Andrew, obviously, know as he told anyone else, she just walks out in her job.
Like, sure that she can't come back to the country after this. She's a police officer.
So she can't just walk out. I just felt that ending was really unclear. In fact, it wasn't really a conclusion at all to that storyline.

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I just didn't get it. Or is it, you know, is she then off to go to get the operation from Mumbai?
And then does she, she moved to Albuquerque, New Mexico and team up with Walter White.
Like, that's the, just a bit unclear. And she's, you know, she obviously is good at her job and does care.
Because she's trying to get to the bottom of this investigation.

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But then also it just seems distracted. And the whole bit with the daughter's friend dying.
Because she took one of the acid tabs and just like, did we need this bit? And the same with the old deer Meredith, he wants to end her life.
Was that just to show Claire's compassion or to show her at work or just to give some other little storyline or setting?

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Didn't need that. I didn't think.
I kind of felt like it was there to show Claire's sort of moral quality, you know what I mean?
She, she starts off, she says no, she gets embroiled in this cover up after the, the, the, the, the killer arrives in the farm, he rolls the car.
When he realize who he is, somebody murders him. So Claire against her better judgment is kind of cajoled into being a part of this.

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So they've, they've subverting the justice by Billy and the car and that and the garden. And then she's, she's kind of like, okay, I will help you because she, she's sort of crossed that line already.
But then she kind of comes back to who she was before when she tells Meredith that she actually she's sorry, but she can't, you know what I mean?
I thought, I thought that, I don't think it does a good job of sort of necessarily a, a, a completion that will work for Claire.

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But I felt like that's what the intention of it was, you know, because you kind of cheese the one that discovers the dead body in the barn.
And so you kind of think, okay, it's not her. And you know, it's not going to be her. But then she does, as you say, she's not kind of part of the, the body in the car being buried.
But she does get rid of the knife that she's, you know, the murder weapon that she thinks, rob had used because it's found in his room.

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So yeah, she does get rid of that in the, the bottom of the lock. And effectively, she responsible for her, her dad walking into traffic because she spoke to him.
And, you know, then the next thing is him walking in front of a lorry. And was she responsible for his death?
Well, I thought that he had heard Claire, okay, so I think we, I need to give the, the game away. So basically we find out the, the, the Adam in Grace, it turns out unbeknownst to themselves.

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Our brother and sister because Moira had shagged Adrian Edminson. So the suggestion is that Adrian Edminson is Grace's dad as well as Adam's dad.
And they didn't know. And Bill's found out. And he's told Adam. And Adam is going through with the wedding, gone off in honeymoon.
But obviously they'd been tormented by what Bill's told them. And it's been phone in his dad who he hadn't spoken to for a long time because he'd been abandoned the family. And obviously told the dad who knew it was probably true because he knew that he'd been shagging Moira.

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So it was probably true and couldn't live with it and through himself in front of a body.
Yeah, that's fair enough. Yeah, no, that works out. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, I definitely will come back onto the end of later one, I think.
But yeah, I think you're right in that Claire probably is the moral compass and then the only kind of person is okay in this.

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She's obviously dealing with work. She's dealing with the death of her brother. She's dealing with a creepy little kid who's stalking her and she's reading her messages.
And she's got a boyfriend, Sam, who's off doing something like that was a weird plot as well. But I guess they needed that to show that he was kind of the Jamie Feeer messages and stuff.

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Yeah, it just seemed a bit on, I guess that's how it gets revealed and the police find out really kind of what was going on because she confesses to Sam via Facebook Messenger and then Jamie Caesar and sends it to the police because I don't know why he did that.
Tyred of the lies, Nicky, Tyred of the Tyred of the Lenties mum about his dad's having Parkinson's Tyred of the Lenties dad about his mum's shagging Gary Lewis Tyred of other lies.

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Yeah, just Tyred of everything. I get that. I get it. I could build up on him. What he needs to do is go or rave and enjoy himself and he should have had one of those LSD tabs that would have been a little bit better, but he would have ended up good.
Right, so you have the killer and ends up at the farm and has a car crash, okay, and you're like, right, how is he? How is he ended up here? And then obviously it's slowly revealed.

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But how they find like the post code in his pocket, but how are they convinced that he's the murderer? They seem on the news. It's, yeah, it's the news. So yeah, but then it's obviously not, you know, it's not 100% confirmed.
That's the, that seemed a little bit like really, really, I don't think the news would report that without informing the victim's family's first. Would they? I don't know.

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Probably not.
I guess you did about poetic license, so that bit of the story can play out, you know, I suppose, maybe.
Yeah. First, they're taking care of the guy, you know, because if I always injured and then it's Rob who sees some news that the police are looking for him in connection to the death, he's turned up at their house.
I mean, they, they do a jump to conclusions pretty quickly. They rob beats the fucking living shit out of him after he tries to run away. Yeah.

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And then of course he ends up getting his, get his throat cut and when he's in the, he's in the canal and the barn.
And of course, they just decide the best thing to do is just cover this all up. No, like why? I just don't get it. Why wouldn't you dig a deeper fucking hole?
That's why I, well, I mean, there's like, they've, they're buried in the Alexis for real drive with someone in it. And they, if fucking things are whole about five foot deep in just, you know what? I mean, they're like, what the fuck?

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Yeah, because the car is basically sticking out from when, like, the police just effectively have to disturb a little bit of soil and there he is, poking through the sunroof.
Oh, he doesn't have a bit ridiculous. And he would think surely as well. Like, I know, obviously it's a big bit of land that they have, but surely the police would still be kind of, they do say that the police will be there.

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And no one, no, it's or heard like this big JCB digging a huge hole and all these people, like gathered around and driving cars and burying them.
Nobody would notice that at all. Surely it would make a bit of noise unless they're this is a lot of land is absolutely huge. And yeah, they are completely isolated.

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I mean, they're a bit quick to turn into fucking master criminals. I noticed like, because the cars and its roof and they're like, all right, just put a sheet over it and then put some things up against it.
So it looks like it's been there for ages. You know what I mean? I'm like, fucking hell, like, do you keep it that before that? But I'm pretty fucking quickly.
You don't believe it. Yeah, but it doesn't get past Laura Fraser, who does say, like, was a car he'd earlier, wasn't it? And then it's like, oh yeah, it was just an old car. We were going to scrap.

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Yeah, because you're going to do that like a couple of days after your brothers died, aren't you? That's going to be one of the first things that is of concern to get this car scrapped.
So there was a car when I was last here. Under some turpulin on a lift, just passed the fork there.
Oh, rubs, that was rubs. Yeah, he took it to be scrapped. Just a piece of old junk, really. It's, uh, protective what do you want? I'm very sorry to disturb you.

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We'll let you know if we can, it'd be no more.
Yeah, a lot of the lies. A lot of things just didn't add up. I mean, kind of the big way that it's found out at the end is that
Claire listens to a voicemail that Bell has on his phone. Yeah. Is he still going to have that voicemail stored on his phone? Really?
I'm happy if, like, well, that's his, and he does think he's phone to church. No, just, no, it's like he's at a ghost's concert. He doesn't take his phone with him.

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Yeah. No, so no, I don't think, because there is the opening scene where they're in the church and, um,
Moira's looking disapprovingly at J.M.A. because he's playing a game on his phone. So I think you're, yeah, not meant to have your, your phone at church. No, definitely.
He is a very, very, um, staunch religious man is Bill. Hmm, very staunch. Like he's very that way inclined of God's way.

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And that's why I think because the kids were brought from sister, so it's the ultimate sin. But then he commits murder. So I don't know.
Yeah, we're just kind of ambiguous there. The lines that he has. Yeah. And that is say, like the beginning of the first episode of Missy,
uh, ads of Ingress, it would be murdered. Try brute of opening to the show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah. It's kind of, I, I have to admit, I did think like,

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Oh, okay, we're in for a, a good one here. This is going to be, um, you know, brutal and, and gruesome. But the one thing that really surprised me about this and I don't need it, but I felt there was a distinct lack of swearing.
Yeah. And a distinct lack of nudity, but I, okay, not needed. But, you know what I mean? But it felt a little bit out of place. Like, you know, especially the swearing, I felt that people wouldn't, you know,

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the emotions are running high. There would be a lot more swearing involved. So I, I felt that was a bit unrealistic. Yeah. I guess I mean, I suppose it's under the, some of the BBC kind of praying time. They can't be, we see one, they can't have it too.
I suppose, come or too sexy. Although, I don't think I had any to see Gary Lewis on the 30s. Yeah. I'm glad that was covered up. Yeah. We got the idea. We just did what he was doing. Yeah. The camera zoom's in just in time for Alice that put it up a gear.

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Yeah. Shocking revelation that Gary Lewis, keeping his, his island accent from, yeah, I've tried to remember what it was. We did recently, the island's accent. My son, my son.
That was it. My son. Yes. Yeah. You still kind of had a little bit of a hint of that accent as, as Alistair who, you say effectively, the farm hand for, for Bill. And, yeah, he's, yeah, Shagging his wife.

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And is poor wife, Sal, played by Kate Dickie at home. She's the, she's the only one that actually kind of wins in, in terms of the show because she gets to fuck off with the money and start a new life and buy a new wardrobe as she, yeah, she's good to.
And gets to kind of stick it in before she leaves because she just tells everyone about the affair and then off she goes.

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So she's the real winner. I think this isn't you. I did wonder the scene where Alistair comes home and she's sitting there bag packed waiting to confront them to tell them that she's known for years.
You know, this kind of thing. I thought, you know, is, should we be going to see her walking out to the car and Alistair is going to come running out the car out of the house, Fargo style where they can ax and, and about.

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You know, I mean, they, they perhaps Steve Buschemi and Fargo, but yeah, just sort of, and they, the whole thing with Alistair, you know, we're, we're led to believe that he's been working for Bill when the Douglas is for a really long time, family friends and everything.
And then he sort of switches to blackmail, they're pretty quickly, you know, at, so yeah, at Sal's sort of bequest, really, you know, becomes home and tells her everything. And she's like, well, you know, and he's right in there twice.

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He's twice he tries to screw Bill out of money. And yeah, you know, and then it turns out, shagging his wife and all that sort of stuff, you know, like fucking, I thought Alistair was a good guy.
Yeah, that's exactly it. You do think he is a good character and a nice guy and probably the one he's, he comes across, you know, the farm hand, but I guess in an agatha Christie, to us, he would kind of be the butler or something.

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Yeah, he's the, the nice guy that wants to do the right thing and you think, you know, when he comes home and he tells his wife and but no, turns out, you know, she says, you know, what you've got to do, I thought about he's going to go with the police, surely.
No, he's going to blackmail Bill for money.
What brings you here, Alistair? I gave you time off. I want more, more money. You came to me and asked me for what you wrote. I gave you what I had.

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Sorry, but I need the money. Salmon to me. This is Sal's idea, is it? This is a woman who couldn't be bothered to send as much as a postcard when we lost week race.
No, listen, we look just salin' me before this is what it comes to. Is it Alistair? This is what it boils down to. 30 years of friendship. It's nothing I haven't worked for. You know that. I'm not Peter Elliott.

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I'm not a weak man. And I'm not going to let you bleed me dry.
It is mental that you picked something with John Lynch in it because just last week I was trying to remember the name of a show that I watched in 1991 on a Sunday evening.
It was a four-part thing on ITV as well. So I'd have only been 10. And I remember you will have watched it as well. It was called Kaimira.

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Oh yes, yes, with Charles Dance. And it was about Chad, the Half-Man Half Monkey. And John Lynch was the lead in it. And it was when I was looking at an INTP. I was like, holy fuck, that was it. It was Kaimira.
I just couldn't remember the name of it. But yeah, I remember that show. I think Charles Dance was in it as well, isn't it? I think he was. I think he might be right.

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So yeah, that was a cracky show. It was just strange that I was just thinking about that last week and then I'm sitting down and I'm like, John Lynch. I know I've seen him in a lot of stuff.
And then when I looked up, I was like, holy shit, he was in Kaimira. So yeah, very good. I always remember him for being in the first George Best biopic.
That's just good. Best. And he plays George Best. I always thought to myself, he's too handsome to be George Best.

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I think, you know, I don't know. He plays George Best with a degree of dignity in that film that I'm not entirely sure is deserved.
I mean, I said George Best was a handsome man like early days before he's ravaged him. He's looking at his George Lynch, look. That's true. He is a very handsome man.

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Yeah, he certainly is a very handsome man. And he's great as Bill. Again, you think you're not sure what's going on with the character, but yeah, it turns out that he is also a wrong one.
Yeah, I thought he delivered a great performance in terms of the tension and trying to morally do the right thing whilst also dealing with Parkinson's and hiding it from his wife.

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And then you feel sorry for him when you find out that his wife is sleeping with you know, you know, you're an Aleister, but getting blackmailed and he's just trying to deal with all of this and then turns out that, you know, effectively it was his Parkinson's that revealed the deal.
Yeah, that's right.
And so he'd been sitting on that as well, knowing that his wife had, he knew that already.

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Yeah, because he does say that you slept with, but is Adam Elliott?
No, not really. Peter Elliott. Yeah. So we knew all about that.
And so, yeah, Moira was evidently quite a promiscuous woman, wasn't she?
Like, I don't know.
And if he or with Peter, well, Aleister, I wonder how many more there were.
Who knows? I mean, I really liked the twist.

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And they know they do sort of keep you guessing.
Yeah, there's that, there's this because Rob takes the blame that we wouldn't the police when the police find the body of his name Lee Walsh, the killer.
Like Rob takes a blame. He thinks he's protecting Anna because he thinks Anna's done it.
Yeah, he knows he knows he's not done it even after Claire confronts him with a knife, but he thinks she's acting a bit weird.

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So he thinks she's done it, so he takes a blame. So, you know, they do a good job of making you think, and then there's the moment was she goes to visit me in a jail, and she can't just leave again, and you think, well, is it because she's so overwhelmed by guilt?
Is she done this because she can't take revenge on the guy who raped her, but she can, but she could take revenge on this guy who killed her boyfriend's sister, who she was also a good friend of.

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She understand that she was a she was a braids made at the wedding, you know, that kind of thing. You know, is that, you know, I think I really I never saw the twist coming at all.
Like, and I quite like that. I like it when it's the last thing that you expect is it's rarely these days, I think, you know.
Yeah, I was not expecting that and didn't see that coming. You're right completely.

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Yeah, kind of like, oh my god, as I was watching it, and I was like, making my notes, and I was writing down like, holy shit, their brother and sister. And then one of the characters says, you know, oh, they were brother and sister.
Oh my god, like I did not see that coming at all. But yeah, quite a twist and yeah, really well done. And you're right. It isn't it doesn't happen a lot now that there is some sort of twist that you're like, I did not see that coming at all.

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Yeah, so yeah, I have to admit that was very well done.
Yeah, really be the good. Yeah, I can't remember the last time something like that caught me out, you know, because I think as well, normally now when these sort of things are written by the time you're closing in in the big reveal.
It's almost like the writer can't hold the water and they have to sort of just give you more kind of broader clues that sometimes give the game away.

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But with these guys, I really feel like they kept their powder dry right to the very last minute. Yeah, you know, yeah, they certainly did.
Yeah, I thought it was very well done. They obviously have good form because they did the missing, which was also great with James Nesbitt prior to this one.
I remember I really enjoyed that the first series. I don't think I watched the second series though, but yeah, I did enjoy.

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But yeah, I like I say there's a couple of elements here that I did think was that needed.
There's a couple of things that I think are a little bit of a stretch, but I guess sometimes you need something like that for all the pieces to fall into place.
And you're right. They did a really good job of keeping the reveal until, you know, towards the end.
And yeah, it was a bit of a shock. And I thought it was very well delivered in terms of the way it's revealed.

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It's not like everyone's sitting down. I mean, yes, obviously Bill does give the explanation whilst he's outside, I'm out of blue, his head off in front of Gillie Gilchrist.
But yeah, I think that's needed as well. But I thought the reveal it relied on the audience being clever enough to pick it up and not batter them over the head with it initially, which I really liked.

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And I do like that when when I show does have faith in the audience effectively and trust them.
Yeah, and maybe that's the purpose of the pacing, you know what I mean? Like because it is slow as the second episode is.
You know, it does give you time to understand a bit more about the characters and how really any of them, any of the what any of the elements in the Douglas is apart from Claire and go see Peter because he was in London.

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So could have committed the murder or would it could it have been Anna could it be an Alistair to the Alistair have a reason for doing it, you know, when he starts when he starts blackmailing when he starts blackmailing bit with that blackmailing bill is that because of, you know, has he already tried something else to get money off of them and this rewalsh has been involved and adds them in grace whenever supposed to be killed.

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And it's going to rye or whatever. Do you know what I mean?
Is there's just this is just a main can I go in you know, do you think though that okay so bill is racked with this emotion of of knowing Adam and Grace or rather in sister these had to watch them get married.
They're on honeymoon.
Adam's calling him and he's out he's pished and then you know gets attempted robbed and ends up paying the robber to kill Adam.

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Yeah. And do you know, I think you'd have like woken up and been like, oh fuck, I was pished last night, I've done some in shit.
Did I I ordered a hit on my son in law?
I need to sort that out. Do you know what I think you would wipe logically like that is the correct thing to do but I that was a little bit not odd but yeah, I don't know.

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Would you dare really be the the next go to of just getting killed is is that the because he seems okay with it really.
I mean obviously he's upset as Doris died as well but he seems okay with his decision to do what he did.
Well this is it I mean he's you know I think we're supposed to I think we're supposed to assume that bill is not quite himself as a result of the Parkinson's is incredibly religious has known for 20 years that he's wife puts it about.

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And you know and he's he's done something that he wouldn't normally do.
Whatever you know you think he would say if there's a woman there fucking do not touch it you know what I mean but then I suppose to refer the there is that mo the sort of set up where he thinks that Adams at home by himself because he phones grace and she says that she gives him some excuse for not see them and he takes it she's a way for a few days or something.

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And she's not around so he's like this is my chance Adam say by himself will send them send this guy into the man and obviously click a grace just can't be asked with her dad's Bible thumping fucking ballics or does it speak to him because Adams told her what a dad's told them or something like that she said
that you say that what speaks him or whatever you know whatever it might be yeah he's basically fucked it in quite a spectacular fashion in terms of daughter and son-in-law dead grandchild dead and yeah yeah yeah that's a bit of a pickle to get yourself in just after a few beers yeah yeah I'm sure you regretted that yeah.

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I did like the other thing that I kind of wondered you have Chris Fulton as Jay the drug dealer.
Yeah it's like departure from his character of Farg in Stone Mice that we saw him in previously.
Why is he always calling Laura Fraser grandma that's just yeah she's not she's not that old.
I get it.
He's saying they look sold you know she's so trapped in her 20s Laura Fraser that's going to go that all.

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He's saying it in like a sexy way like he'd like to have a little bit of grandma I think I don't know but I just that struck me as a bit odd and it's never explained or never gone into why he's calling her that.
I don't know I mean yeah yeah I think it's just a bit of maybe maybe the the refrigerator wasn't the first choice maybe the first choice for the for the role was Babra Rafferty or something like that and then

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I've been able to wait in life baby you know so Peter they moved to Scotland obviously Rob and Claire I guess had been born before the move to Scotland and then Adam comes along and Grace no Grace is the no Adam yeah Adam yeah he's the other

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Elliott comes along and why if they why they all got English accents well I took that they fit the English people that have moved to the neighborhood you know and when the word that when Adam was little and the big kids have kept their accents
because Adam has a Scottish accent doesn't he?
He's got a he's got about an English accent when you do you hear him? That's a probably in the back then yeah a little bit but even Claire and Rob like they would have moved they're not that much older

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and I don't know so they would have maybe been I don't know let's say three four I don't know if they know of a Scottish accent like you know you would think maybe
because Vanderham is Scottish yeah so it's not like this is that you know that you know Joe Dempsey is obviously English
Julia Stevens as well and Adrian Emerson but yeah I don't know I think I don't know I'm just about a weird so I'm having no choice

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and then you could John Lynch Irish and play an Irish yeah and the rest of his family Scottish so I don't know maybe
there are just people who moved to the move to the supposed to be the Highlands but it was actually filming the borders it was filming the people's
I did think it looked a bit flat to be the Highlands like when the camera is like zoom I mean it's the scenery is absolutely breathtaking
yeah when the when the camera is zooming around the landscape I thought supposed to be near Inverness

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according to the script feels we've got flat you know yeah I would agree with you on that I did a little bit but you're right the scenery is beautiful
it does add to like kind of like a haunting tone to show which it does feel quite atmospheric and it has this kind of like
it's almost like a wounded kind of sheen to it in terms of the the darkness and the storm and then obviously all of the setting and stuff

(01:27:37):
it does have a yeah a really kind of haunting feel to it which is say I think the the countryside definitely is a huge part of that
yeah yeah for sure definitely showcasing the one of her maybe something that should go in the UNESCO
they still think just like amazing vistas that we have in Scotland

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so no I mean I think it so it allends to that era of isolation doesn't it
because you don't see it's not clear how far away from the Douglassies and the Aliets Alistar and Salle
you know I mean this is not clear how far away the pub is where they go for the where they go for the wake after the funeral
and all that kind of thing it's all you know you do feel like it's just these two houses next to each other in the middle of nowhere

(01:28:27):
and hence maybe why the characters would be feel either consciously or subconsciously they've got this
kind of license to kind of take matters into their own hands and we'll get away with it you know because there's no one around
yeah apart from give the Gilchrist to make a welcome appearance a couple of the first episode in the last episode you know

(01:28:48):
yeah it is yeah I agree does it add to kind of the isolation and yeah it's a bit unclear as to all the locations
and where they are we know obviously it's 10 hours away from where Peter is now living
because he's set off on his drive once he puts it in the sat nav and off he goes but he never makes it
doesn't matter if you know so it sits on the hard shoulder on the M8 which not allowed to do it says he says he says oh

(01:29:16):
you know I never knew that he what like the sun rising over the M8 would be so beautiful you can't he stop in the fucking M8
and if you're on the M8 you're not going to inverness because you come up the M1 M6 M724 then you go across the Scotch corner
up the A1 past N and Britain up the A9 don't anyone knew the fucking M8
yeah well maybe he got lost and that's why he decided to show himself in front of a truck maybe just

(01:29:43):
wanted to see what the sunrise was like in the M8 but I'm pretty sure that the t-smith come round
and ask them what he thought he was doing sitting in the hard shoulder on the M8 for hours on end
yeah right actually yeah very true indeed so yeah no I can't shake the feeling that this was maybe
supposed to be the beginning of a longer running series like the fact that Laura Fraser's character is

(01:30:07):
you know she she essentially gets away with it right she's she's committed like a very very serious
crime in Stephen evidence from a walker selling it to her drug dealer and the Atenh Gilles has
lean died as a result of taking said drugs and despite the fact that she's done a desperation

(01:30:28):
traditionally in narrative there would be she would have to pay the paper for that you know I mean
the with the some kind of consequence so the fact that she is affected for a manages to get away with
it made me think right then they must have been thinking of our next series where there'd be some
kind of resolution of this because she can't just get away with it you know I mean you know like it

(01:30:48):
needs to be dealt with the whole Anna and Rob thing you know they sort of break up when he comes out
a jail you know I mean I the way it was going down the toilet anyway before this rape and you stuck by
me and I don't need to be protected anymore blah blah blah so that sort of there's that you know
you never really know well as that are they finished is it going to continue you don't know what
happens to bill we was off the jail we assume yeah the whole you know so there's a lot of threads left

(01:31:14):
sort of bloat baby don't know what's going to happen to Claire because Claire has you know she says
to murder doesn't show up I'm probably going to jail anyway yeah so they she still she still needs to
face the music for being well they all do apart Moira you know they all need to face the music for
their involvement in burying the body of Lee Walsh in the car so all that so that sort of left

(01:31:36):
about ambiguously so I do think that maybe there was a plan you know maybe Julia it was would be the
lead character you know is a sort of disgraced policewoman and you know maybe she still has some
kind of interaction with some of these characters and they find out what happens to them you know
yes almost like a like a series two of broad church like it's a exact case and yeah exactly that's

(01:31:58):
a good that's a good comparison actually it's the guys who produce this are the Williams and
Harry and Jack Williams in there you know they're so far as doing the quality drama yes for the
for the BBC they've got a really good track record they've done things like hotel Babylon call the
midway flea bag the tourist which I've not seen but I'm told was very very good yeah you know all sorts

(01:32:24):
of stuff you know so they're like you know they're sort of highly respected writers and producers
I really felt that and I know the missing has been massive I haven't watched that right but I know
it's absolutely massive it's been massive for the BBC and the missing and so so it's flea bag
so I don't know maybe there was a plan to string it out for a bit longer yeah well never know

(01:32:48):
wrap up some of these wrap up some of these loose ends yeah well they'll just have to be loose ends forever
we've mentioned so you know hopefully you've all watched one of us slash retribution before you've
heard us talk about it is it time to put it through our sly awards I think it certainly is Greg let

(01:33:08):
do it what have we got up first so as always first the word is the bobby the barman award for the best
pub I think I'm going to the pub where the week's held mid but not when does the week on it was they
it did look like a nice pub did you see the name of the pub I probably but it is falling out of my head
it was called the sheep heed in yes and it was spelled H E I D and I did like that a lot yeah

(01:33:33):
it was a nice looking pub yeah definitely I would like to go for a pint there by agree not when there's
a wake not when there's a wake no although apparently according to the what was it called
ship for the sun apparently if you're going to the pub when there's a wake on the brother has the
body of drink it's some of it is very true the right time to go very true and next the
word then is there James Cosmo award being in everything Scottish I've narrowed it down to three

(01:33:57):
for me okay I've got in Lewis Dickie Gilchrist a few did you have any of those I've got Lewis and
Gilchrist yeah it's my my two yeah um Dickie yes yeah yeah in but I shout as well but yeah I've
gone with Lewis and Gilchrist for for that award okay and next the word then the Jake McQuillan

(01:34:17):
your tease-out award what did you go for here I went with Aad Edmonds and get hit by the truck I think
that's the the the kind of yeah that's hard to be the the tease-out for me well by you anything else
well I had that in terms of just the I didn't expect it until the song walking into the road you know
what I mean I was good back in the car I was like fuck an L and but also I've got to be mentioned to

(01:34:38):
Rob given Leah doing yeah find some chatter runaway and next one then you've just got to touch
on this already not a great deal of this but the Francis beg be a word for which you were just
swearing what all I had was Adam's recorded message of how fucking dare you bill that was they
were making a f-bomb that sort of jumped out to me in that yeah that was it that was the only f-bomb

(01:35:02):
in the show and I went with what I just find out I'm using it was Andrew's delivery of it I think
it's the start of the second episode and he says this is the shittest petrol station I've ever been to
and I just it made me laugh I think it was a delivery of it as well so yeah I went with that for my
best use of swearing and next one the Yumi Gregor award for a good show at the shittest utility we do see

(01:35:27):
Julie Gaines thys as as Gary as Alistair's on the vinegar strokes yeah so nearly that but thankfully
they're covered so yes we didn't get to see anything there thank Gary this is round shoulders
next one then archetypal Scottish moment when Rob is following the the rapist there is he does

(01:35:52):
walk up the Royal Mile when the tourist shops so yeah I went with that I mean obviously I
I went initially with just all the scenery and stuff I went I went with the tourists shops
I thought that was yeah particularly I went with the scenery but the two of the shops that I
bought are equally good shows and then finally then the Sean Conry award who wins one of us

(01:36:14):
slash distribution for you as I said earlier Kate Dickie's character of cells the only one that
actually wins she wins the plot yeah wins the plot in terms of who won for me I kind of struggled
with this I've given it to John Lynch because I thought he in but I you know Vanderham's great

(01:36:34):
yeah Fraser is great as well but yeah I gave it to John Lynch what about you I give it to
Lynch slash Vanderham said do I think she she's the only sort of she's the only kind of character that
you root for I think you know she's she's the one that's you know well probably more so than
Kate the more Fraser's character Julia she's the one that's really kind of piecing it all together

(01:37:00):
she's the one that all the revelations come through you know she discovers them she discovers
the affair she discovers that Adam and Grace were brother and sister and you know all these things
she's the one that kind of endures all that and we we learn through her and you know she's she's a good
actress Joanna Vanderham I think it really good actress you know they share that this this performance

(01:37:23):
has about a hundred miles away from her as Amanda Amanda Drummond and Crane and she says that's
a cold character in that doesn't she and very serious kind of business woman who's also
stalking her ex-boyfriend yeah yeah okay fair enough well that's one of us as I mentioned at the start
of the pods you can get it on the BBC I play or you can get it on probably Amazon definitely the

(01:37:44):
Apple store and I'm sure there's a few less honest ways of coming by as well if you want to go
and search for them so one of us was my choice made for a Fraser slash or take a double back to back
which means that it comes to you again to pick our next at this the movie or TV show for our next film

(01:38:08):
next film our next pod so what are we we'll be getting into no Fraser or or take out in the next episode
I'm afraid Greg but I do have a lovely wonderful Scottish double act coming up so I'd like to cover
a TV movie from 1990 on the next episode directed by Michael Winterbottom it stars you and

(01:38:28):
Bremner and Brian McCarty and tells the story of two Scottish squaddies off on leave to Budapest
to see a simple minds concert on the way they meet a beautiful Hungarian girl and a love triangle
begins available on YouTube and coming in at one hour and ten minutes Greg it is
forget about me okay I've never seen it something forward to watch in that yeah no I've never seen it

(01:38:54):
either I haven't watched it but it's so it was available on YouTube word of warning if anyone's
watching it the first minute and twenty seconds there's no sound on the video it's because they were
playing I mean I'll go into this in the next episode but they're playing Jon and Yoko
Ono Merry Christmas the war is over for some reason copyright that's muted but the rest of the episode

(01:39:17):
is there in perfect quality so yep 1990s forget about me on the next episode of the culture
swalley right well thank you very much for listening everyone hope you enjoyed the show if you'd
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(01:39:38):
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and articles about Scottish media and culture lovely stuff well I hope you have a wonderful time at

(01:40:02):
Comic Contamoron and look forward to it yeah look forward to hearing all about it and see what
who you get to see and if you get to meet anyone interesting yeah well I should get to meet the
Natalya Dyer since I'll be shabby rolling my daughter um but apart from that I don't know if
will meet anybody else wonderful right well enjoy your weekend and until next time until next time one

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of us did this one of us right here do we want that person going to prison
because of him

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