Episode 126 - Forget About Me (1990) - The Culture Swally

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Hello and welcome to the Culture Swally, a podcast dedicated to Scottish news and pop culture.
My name is Nicky and I'm joined as always by the man who I would happily drive to Budapest to
go to a concert with. It's Greg! How are you today buddy? Very well. How's things with you?
Yeah, all good, thank you man. Yeah, all good. Can't complain. It's a bank holiday weekend here. Woo-hoo!

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So, Monday off. So it's, yeah, very exciting. Three-day weekend. So all good. But yeah, no,
everything's fine with me. Can't complain. Yeah, all good with you. Yeah, how are you spending your
extra weekend day? Probably not doing much, to be honest. Probably having a nice
kind of relaxing weekend. We are, well, last weekend I have my girlfriend because she leaves next

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Friday. She is off to Tokyo. Of course, because you're also going to Tokyo. Yes, yeah.
Like 10 days after. So yeah, she leaves and then she's going for work and then yeah, 10 days later
I go. So yeah, so probably just have a nice chilled weekend. It's the first, it's the first Sunday I've

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had free all year Greg because I've been doing an improv class which of course has been every Sunday.
So term two ended last Sunday. I had a one week break but I was in Bruges for that Sunday. So yeah,
this is literally the first Sunday this year that I will have had in at home in Amsterdam where I
don't have anything today. So I'm very excited about that. Cool. And are you going to rejoin the

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improv group when it starts up again? Yeah, I will. It starts up again next week at level three,
but I'm obviously away for two weeks so I would miss two weeks of it and you can only miss two weeks
otherwise you fail if that descends. So I don't want to take the risk of that. So and plus,
I'd rather have the whole eight weeks. So then they take a break for the summer and it starts again

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I think August or September. So yeah, August, September I'm going to resign and join level three.
So yeah, so I've worked to that. Yeah. I've been invited to play softball on Sunday morning.
Oh, because I've got connections now with these guys that are trying to get this baseball league
going here in Dubai. They're planning a 21 game series over 30 days in November. They're looking

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for some big bucks sponsorship but I don't think they're a bit rich for our tastes but they're asking
but anyway, they asked me if I wanted to go on Sunday mornings, like few weeks in play softball
at the ballpark but I've been playing tennis on Sunday mornings. I'm not sure because my friend
he's, they've just had another baby so he can't do Thursday nights as regularly because he's got like

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a one year old now and like a newborn and he's wife's like I'm not putting both these fucking kids
to bed myself when I Thursday night. That's just to get about it. So I've been playing with him
on a Sunday morning. It's a bit easier for him. So I don't know if I'll be able to do it but I've become
quite, quite interested in baseball as a result of all this. Like I just finished the documentary on

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Netflix like a year in the clubhouse with the Chicago with the Boston meds ox. It's just interesting
and I understand how to play it now. I always thought that. I thought until I the first that went to
America I understood how to play it. I was coincidentally in Boston the first that went to America.
It was, there was a series being played, the red salts were played, I can't remember who they were

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playing but I watched a bit of it. I could not understand the rules, I could not understand why they were
like hitting the ball and not running when it didn't look like it was a foul and all that's going to
stuff but now I feel like I've got a firmer grasp of the game. Quite interesting, didn't it? So I
mean I'm able to pick a team. I was just about to say. Do you have a team? So I mean I guess the

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red socks would be the obvious connection but are you thinking about maybe picking a different team?
No I think maybe the red socks. The only thing is like the guys that I know that are organizing
this league here are both Yankees fans and the song is a big rivalry there between the
the ranger Celtic of Major League Baseball. Although I did notice that all the fans all were all

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mixed in together anyway. It's not like there's like a home end in the way end but anyway. No.
I took the 40th egg as like that time when we went to Boston back in 2006 and my wife and I it was
like really they're having like a really hot couple of weeks so the same as the hottest summer or the
hottest August since like fucking 1984 or something like that right so I went to buy a hat and I

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thought well I'll buy a I'll buy a boss I'll buy like a red socks hat since I'm in Boston and so
fast forward a few months later 2007 we're on a honeymoon and we're in Mexico and we'd just done
this dolphin experience in sort of swimming with dolphins so I'm still outside having a smoke waiting
for Paula to finish drying herself off and getting dressed and I've got my red socks cap on and

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I'm stood there minding my own business and this guy comes over and he says uh Boston huh and I said
that not really you know like I was in Boston last summer I would just really like this hat and
I've just bought it he looked at me like I was the scum of the fucking yeah he didn't say another word
just wonderfully then I thought oh okay obviously I've uh I've stepped over some invisible line

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there that's uh he just brought me to think about that so you have a or had or I don't know if you
still have a red socks cap I have a red socks cap which I bought at Fenwy Park when I went to go and see
the red socks. Our mutual friend has a red socks hat he built yeah he had it here with him

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he had a borough at Binta Boston or why did he have that he might just like the design the the
the fancy B on the front of it I don't know how to borrow it off on Monday because they're
are mutual for the benefit of the listeners we were just talking about it before we started
recording our mutual friend has been over here visiting me in Dubai and I took him in these

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misses to the mosque in Abu Dhabi the grand mosque for a tour and I they didn't realize how much
outside time there was going to be and I forgot to take a hat along with me so luckily he doesn't seem
to go anywhere now without like a fully loaded backpack and he was able to lend me a hat which was
the red socks hat so I was waiting it on Monday and the mosque. So in terms of finding your team

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I let's look at the year you were born 78 is it Greg yeah so 78 the Yankees won the World Series so it's
you if you'd like to support the winning team or the losing team of the series was the LA Dodgers so see
now because of my so a new little divergency I've had to take a deep dive into all things baseball

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for the last few weeks and I was and I didn't realize that the Dodgers and the Giants both have been out in
New York since like the 50s obviously the Gi I mean I think I think that both been West Coast teams at
this stage longer than they were East Coast teams perhaps you know I think the Dodgers were the first

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ones to go to Los Angeles and then the Giants off to San Francisco so yeah I mean that's probably
the last until I find something else to completely absorb myself and you know I took quite the Yankees
the kind of gray and thin kind of pinstripe on their shirts but I like the red socks shirts as well

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but then I'm never gonna wear a shirt ever so this would be the matter but is supporting the Yankees
not like just like supporting manually major Celtic or a Rangers no yeah a winning team right
it's four majors like 15 years ago yeah exactly I'm like you need to support a team with a bit of history
Rangers don't have any history well then we'll tell you something interesting about the New

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York Yankees the New York Yankees were originally the New York Highlanders and they changed their name
to the Yankees in the other 20th century so there is a Scottish connection there but I fear
that it's probably a deeply Protestant, a Scottish connection and the red socks the red socks feel

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the wee bit more sort of Roman Catholic then I don't know I don't know so in the next episode we'll
hear about where Greg is Yankees kept from and it's proudly wearing it like Peter Andre okay
right and my daughter's boyfriend

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right okay that's enough baseball that's it the baseball um that I don't fuck okay even the give
a a name for it the the the baseball basket yeah anyway uh right yeah show over look you can
be and you can be and you can be in sir at that don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't

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yeah probably too much work yeah would let's just go straight to the news okay
yeah uh cure the in that case then cure the jingle
hello this is the out there heavily broadcasting code narration and here is what's been going on

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in the new okay Greg what have you seen in the news this week that you'd like to share with me
in our lovely listeners okay well my first story I'm going to pose you a question okay how
long would you say the shortest short haul flight in the world is oh I I saw this headline um in

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the nominations of time I saw this headline and I didn't read the article is it not something like
58 seconds or something yeah five seconds off which is pretty good 53 seconds okay so the
this is when the Scottish Sun on the 28th of April a short haul inside the world's shortest flight is

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53 seconds Scotts journey is still popular today fairs fair star as low as eight pounds doesn't
say what they go up to and what you get there's a picture there's a there's a picture of the
Logan air plane I don't know why anybody's paying anything extra for you know business class
53 second flight but anyway at Scotland is home to the world's shortest commercial flight and it

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only takes about a minute to reach your final destination running between the Orkney Islands of
Westray and Papawestray this flight serves as a crucial link between the two the entire journey
lasts a total of 90 seconds from take off to landing with just 53 seconds spent in the air
operated by Logan air and flyby the Britain Norman BN2B26 Island area craft accommodate

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so only 10 passengers on the 1.7 mile route the rapid flight operates daily with fairs starting
as low as eight pounds for residents maybe there's like a rush hour it's like a peak time there's a
peak time cost maybe for residents of both islands there is no more affordable or convenient alternative

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when a ferry does operate between Westray and Papawestray it takes significantly longer with a
journey time of 25 minutes there is no there is no bridge to connect to islands so you can't walk or
drive either having been in operation since 1967 the aircraft celebrated its one millionth passenger
milestone in 2016 with a record flight time of just 47 seconds this is been recognised as the

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shortest schedule passenger flight by the Guinness World Records passengers aren't required to
arrive at the airport to a person advance as a standard for most flights instead it's recommended
to arrive just 10 minutes prior wow as for as for hand luggage even small carry on bags must be
placed in the cargo compartment the journey is primarily used by teachers and students visiting

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archaeological sites but is also utilized by health professionals who provide care to patients on
both islands according to the point skies Daniel Ross the searute is a board's a fisherman like
boat he said the boat rocks so violently from sight to sight that I was sure were going to cap
size spending 20 minutes on that boat on a cam day was enough to make me never want to set foot

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on another boat again okay fucking catastrophic catastrophes in there so yeah incredibly short flight
between the two islands have you ever done a short haul now that little chicken chaser plane
I'm trying to think I don't think I have like a tiny small flight um that was my first question I was
gonna ask you about the deft to arrive two hours before but obviously not but no I don't think

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short is flight I've probably done maybe Norwich to Aberdeen or I don't know I'd have to look at
a map I'm sure like some of the Middle East like Dubai to I don't know Charjan
yeah Charjan um Dubai to musk I don't know that's like 45 minute this is why I guess so I'm

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having to map one a couple of times as well yeah I guess that's probably the shortest but no I've
never done like a tiny little you know like you see like in the Maldives you'll get like a little
sea plane or something like that um I don't know if never fancy the thought of that no freaks me
out a wee bit but no I think that's probably yeah 45 minutes is probably the shortest flight I've had

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not one that's 53 seconds Jesus have we have done I've done Birmingham to Glasgow it's a pretty short
yeah Birmingham to Glasgow no I've done you have done but I've done Birmingham to Glasgow which is
not a long flight at all and I've done Birmingham to Aberdeen but yeah I don't know those little
planes they're the ones that can taint the crash you know so I don't have no point taint in fate

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I mean the big ones crashed you Greg let's not discriminate against planes the big ones crashed too
yeah but when was the last time my big plane crashed yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well yeah but probably
last week but no anything yeah I know what you mean yeah it's a bit of a I don't know I
don't think I'd fancy that and especially you're taking it every day surely the risk is

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which is like shortening the odds aren't you so what happens if you miss it like arrive at the
airport 10 minutes beforehand but then if something happens with traffic then you're
thought you miss your plane then well great well the one thing the one thing the article doesn't
doesn't mention is the is the frequency of the flight you know I mean there's a I mean it's

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obviously a commercial one so it's not just like when I win enough people turn up the pilots they
recommend then it's going you know it's like there must be like a timetable yeah you know
so it doesn't mention the frequency but if it's only like a minute imagine that it's probably
fairly frequent but then if it takes 10 people at eight pounds that's 80 pounds net well that's 80

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pounds gross sales per flight you know how much does it how much does it cost to maintain the plane
keep it filled with air jet fuel and all that sort of stuff how much does the airport you know
they make any money they're breaking even I don't know eight pounds the lowest price credit it's not
eight pounds is of course we all know that we see the adverts have fly to marruchis for 20 pounds

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now when you go on and you add on the airport tax everything else and your baggage and all this
before you know it you're 300 quid in yeah yeah yeah yeah but you've been swayed by that 28 pound offer
so you're going and you've justified to yourself that technically it was 28 quid so it's fine yeah
for the flight the flight was on its 28 quids you know I had to add the pay 50 pounds

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every time I took a breath we're up in the air yeah anyway that's my first story this week
what you got for us okay this my first news story this week is from the press and journal
this week Greg went to to Aberdeen or the surrounding area Keith Mann who attacked his neighbor
in DVD route handed work order so I thought this was a lovely swallow story a Keith Mann who once

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ram raided a shot with a digger has been sentenced for beating up his neighbor in a row over a DVD
Duncan Ellrick was spared jail in 2019 after he drunkenly stole a digger and crashed it into Keith's
sparr store in an attempt to steal money from the bank machine. And he was in the dock again last month

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standing trial for another crime the 42 year old saw his case collapse however when he made the
stunnigan mission that he indeed had gone outside to attack Michael Kennedy when he was outside their
home making his partner upset he had previously lost a special defense for self-defense but that
defense unraveled as soon as Ellrick of Hilvy Crescent if you want him to visit was questioned by

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fiscal desk you Rory McAllister on why he did not just walk away or call the police if someone
was acting in an abusive manner outside his home he said he went looking for him is you the problem
was I've never said it was self-defense he added I'm not disputing I went down to fight him I saw
he also accused the proc that of a skull of exaggerating the charges against his neighbor he said

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you're trapped it words in my mouth I'm sick of it it was a square fight I didn't back down for
men it was also claimed this is what maybe pit the article it was also claimed in evidence that
mr. Kennedy described Ellrick's partner as a skeletor faced cow under cross examination by

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Ellrick's defense agent see it often skeletor face cow under cross examination by Ellrick's defense
agent Ian Jane mr. Ken deyum his behavior was shocking I'm aware by behavior was shocking I
should never have said that I should have walked away that day he maintained he was not the aggressor

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and that the rye was sparked by his daughter not returning a DVD on Wednesday Ellrick was recalled
to Peterhead to discover his fate stopping short of sending a prison for the assault sheriff
Craig Finlayter ordered him to complete 200 hours of unpaid work within the community over the next
year he'll also be under the supervision of the social work department for the next 18 months so skeletor

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faced cow that's a fucking great insult isn't it well I wonder what the DVD was I yeah it doesn't say
it like I really I know he's a 42 so obviously skeletor fits right in his wheelhouse it doesn't say
but it was his daughter that bought of the DVD I did see one comment online saying I hope it was a
key man DVD but we have no idea so yeah you've gotten into a bit of a trouble with our DVDs over the year

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something yeah yeah the friend of the time when a DVD was taken from a mutual friend's house yeah
it's exactly what I was just a bit sort of unfortunate really you know what I mean they
it was yeah I mean it wasn't the most unfortunate thing about about that night in in hindsight but

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I'd never place it so oh you did replace it I didn't realize that of course it is yeah okay okay
so yeah you invited a friend back to to your flat and your friend stole some DVDs from our mutual
friend but obviously you never saw that friend again so oh it was a it was a new friend that had just

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made that night it just happened to we just we met and I think triple curks in Aberdeen with a
little bit we had a lot in common it turned out did you see Michael go for that night no no no he would
have been up at club drop a can and yeah so you know I took her back I wasn't I we there wasn't even

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living with her mutual friend at that time he was just like I was just up from Glasgow for a few
days he was letting me stay there and the next you know we had a very we had a pleasant evening
and the next morning I woke up first and I thought I'll go in the shower now the thing that I
but I think about was like for reasons that I'll explain to you when we're not recording I had

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like a lot I had a lot of money in my wallet like a lot of cash like a lot of cash and I thought I'll
go and get in the shower and I'll just take my clothes in to the bathroom and get dressed in the
bathroom rather than you know come out and get dressed in front of my new friend right and I'm so glad
that I did because I'm sure that should I fucking dip my wallet as well as as well as nicking the

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DVDs first of shit you know so obviously I fucking the thief but yeah unfortunately I used some of all
that I used some of that money to go into town and replace the DVDs for a mutual friend who was
fucking absolutely furious and deadness fair enough you know oh no yeah it's fair enough no no and I
I take my hat off to you for replacing the DVDs but yeah it's fair enough that obviously your

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your new friend decided to borrow the DVDs without giving them back and I'm I'm sure obviously you
you had no way to get in contact with this friend but I know this was the it wasn't quite the
pre-internet age but it was it was before social media and stuff the thing is dead no

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wait she took me where she worked she worked in a kitchen at Mac Amorons so I met another of
our mutual friends for a pint in Mac Amorons and the next day with a vague notion of looking
out for her and confronting her if I saw was this ten new jock uh no it was Brett okay yeah that was

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my next guess because you were poor you think you were poorly that week so I told I told Brett what
it what had happened and he was like well we see her so I did see her and I saw her greeting
who seemed to be her girl friend oh Jesus the plot's like it's yeah um so yeah my uh I thought to

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myself well I've already replaced the DVDs there's nothing to be gained from have confronting
a bisexual lady in front of her girl friend um you know our mutual friends got his DVD back
his DVDs back I don't appear to have any sex the transmitted diseases so always well the ends well

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really and the other thing is when I saw her in Mac Amorons in the sort of cold light of day I
realized that I'd made a mistake okay because she was a thief obviously yeah that she was a thief
but also maybe I'd been a bit too eager to make to make her my new friend yeah yeah yeah no I'm talking

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about I know you're talking about you I'm sure I'm sure the fetham is entirely mutual was she a
skeletor faced cow or was she no one of a beast man she's not an evil one um yeah yeah she was
more sure as more of an evil one in the sort of gothie sense okay our friend our friend technical jock

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would have been very impressed with her okay I'm if you had if had he been the one to make friends
with her before I did he'd have liked to have mined her craft um hi hi I just have a it's weird
about skeletor I saw um it was on instagram just before we started recording um I was I wasn't

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going to toy a lot of my phone and um I was doom scrolling and it came up on instagram uh the intro
to buck you'll hear remember a bucket yes yeah I do that a bucket here I was a slightly too old to
buck you'll hear so it was sort of like the same time as the Ninja Turtles cartoon which I did
watch it but I was I was kind of aware as I was watching it that you're probably a bit too old for

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this see I think I was because obviously I'm what like three years younger yes I think I was still
okay I think um yeah it was like thirteen episodes the bucket yeah never realized that I thought it
ran for longer but yeah only thirteen episodes was it a bit of a ninja turtles sort of cash-in type
thing they're like sort of battle towards uh no I wouldn't say so well maybe because it was about a

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rabbit but then I guess I mean car rats lived in a super in New York in New Ninja whereas bucket
here was a rabbit who had a spade yeah yeah but I just thought like sort of animals doing like
yeah animals being hard you know you could go back to do anything but that mean you could say that
the Ninja Turtles ripped off the raccoons or the animals were farthing but yeah but they went

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hards weren't they I mean like Ninja Turtles were hard bastards um like the battle towards
in bucket here yeah Ninja Turtles were fucking absolutely crease yeah animals are farting wood in a
square goal that's a battle I would like to see Ninja Turtles again see the animals are farthing

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right they the the only one in the animals a far than wood who might have a better form but it's
probably too old would be badger because he's the older one maybe like young badger back in the day
he might have had a better form you know or maybe the better handful for the Ninja Turtles but
they but the same the animals are far in the wood come round he's an old kind isn't it so
you're reckon of when a square go between the animals a farthing boot and wind in the willows I think

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they wind in the willows I think told of told hall was just when the mover in these big cars
yeah so that is our our DVD hero um skeletar face cow basically why I picked that article but yeah
that but he'll be doing his 200 hours community service or something about scots that they just

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seem to be able to sort of the sort of coinly like brilliant fucking you know what I mean
like scotch Twitter is just a or scotch X it's often just a fucking thing of joy I so this
completely unrelated and I was gonna save this for later but I was on Reddit earlier today and

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there was an article someone was complaining about the price at that I'll just read it verbatim
it's probably the easiest thing this is Reddit Scotland the topic is called sausage suppers
I'm from Bills help but I'm living in Aberdeen for the last seven years I went to a trip eight
a night for the first time in ages fancy that sausage supper as I recently gave up the vegan life

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what the fuck is going on here sausage is wrapped separately from the chips it's only one fucking
sausage a pound for a solo sausage it's a standard practice everywhere now or is this just the
fucking awful policy of the northeast I'm fucking livid first reply 7 pound 30 near me but it's a double

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jumbo sausage a fish supper is 10 pounds 20 though who put tariffs on the code the reason I've done
this accent is because the next reply goes code we find you out Nigel we don't eat cord drain these parts
for overseas the search Nigel is the affectionate term that our scots give to people from England

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we call them Nigel's so yes we find you like Nigel nobody it's got dried here it's fucking hard
dick of that's it that does seem expensive like eight quids just like that sausage yeah it does yeah
that's the story yeah absolutely extortion anyway right moving on what else have you seen this

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in week buddy well this is hot off the press just today let's uh in a day the record the headline
means scots urge to keep taps on those summer it's tenets team up with comedy legends
and we're not talking about irresponsible water usage I'm talking about keeping your top on
a still game legend at San Gief Kohli is part of a group of top scots comedians encouraging scots

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to keep their taps on this summer is part of tenets laggers and you campaign they've got a brilliant
t-shirt within the back it says think like a ginger I might have to try and get my hands on one of
those t-shirts the the the push by the scots beer giants comes amid rising skin cancer rates and

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its encouraging scots not to take their taps off through a new collection of special t-shirts
where all the profits go to metanooma uk charity working to combat skin cancer comedy legends including
San Gief Kohli ash the story that aridine bash the entertainer and more are lending to
our lending support to the limited edition collection uh san gief Kohli best known is a cray

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glang shopkeeper and a vid said we're all guilty of getting a bit over excited the minute the sun
shows up I've seen folks on bathing on traffic islands well seen at the zilson glass goal
where it appears sorry when it appears we fight that urge to race to the nearest patch of sand
to feel the sweet warmth in our bare skin but while we're busy basking in its glow we often forget

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that it's pelting us with UV rates i'm just looking at the t-shirt that san gief's holding up put
on the back it says four seasons in one pint and it's a guy holding a pint attendance in a variety
of different weather systems i wanted my t-shirt design to be a cheeky nod to those flitting
moments of sunshine as we race to make the most of it and a reminder that if the sun is melt in

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your ice cream think what it can do to your skin the tenets taps on campaign as designed to encourage
people not to ignore the sun's dangers and to embrace the brighter side of the season without
being dafted but their own health the items are designed to sum up scots the scots unique
relationship with the sun the item includes variedeans t-shirt we've got your back a scotish seagull

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swoops in to leave a deposit on a sunseekers back a big doll the purvice of sunscreen sun cream
sunscreen sunscreen uh suzy mccabe summer survival kit we find the way to set the
bright summer and get good use of our barbecue even in the rain san gief coley, melt air, demonstrate in
the daily challenge of trying to finish an ice lolly before it's melted. Ray Bradshaw, think like a ginger

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any sensible pale skin person knows being under the sunbathing towel is preferable to sunburn
the oon adorate, spf is sexy nothing says hot like staying sunsafe this summer, chem blive,
sun trapped showcasing the jolly of chasing the shy summer sunshine in a beer garden
Ashley story, the battle you're either out or you're in, demonstrating the frustrating

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unpredictability of our sun and bash the creator four seasons in one day or less no problem
will still be out enjoying the summer come rain or shine or wind or hail. It goes on to say metanolla
is a fifth most common cancer in the UK with around 17 and a half those in new cases every year
and it's on the rise with rates increase of almost a third of the past decade. Detection rates in

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scotland are lagging behind loads of England and tenants are encouraging people to remember that
the sun can still cause damage even if it's behind the clouds with almost nine in ten cases in the UK
being caused by exposure to too much ultraviolet radiation from the sun. So yes, so have a look at the
have a look at the t-shirts when you've got a moment there's yeah i like that i think like a ginger one

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actually the good. Where was the news aren't called from? The day they record. Yeah, I mean this is a very
worthwhile cause. I'm very pleased to hear that tenants my favorite logger are in there behind this.
So yeah, I think it's a wonderful cause and i'm really glad that a lot of comedians are putting

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there they're kind of heft behind it as well. I think it's a great cause. I've just got the article up
I'm looking to think like a ginger yeah your our mutual friend would have loved that. Yeah,
shirt for me was there. I see. I've got a number of like mutual friends either. Yeah, but that's
big certainly does. No, I think this is wonderful and I love to see someone like this happening.

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Um, I just I never realized because I you mentioned the article and I was looking so into tenants
website and they have a big merchandise section which I never read. Yeah, yeah, get socks, beanies,
umbrellas, playing cards, bum bags, toilet tray bags, passport holder. This is fucking amazing.
I'm going to be buying a lot of this shit. Yeah, wonderful. We went in last weekend to the

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expat, the book kind of shop in Amsterdam and we weren't going home for quite a few hours but I was
like, oh, tenants. This is the this is the fucking nectar. And my girlfriend was like, well, what do you buy
if you can't? So I was like, no, cause we're going out and just off sort of what to take it with me.
I'll come back another day and get some tenants. So, but yeah, it was lovely and the day still had the

(34:07):
night you know one ironberry in the glass bottle as well. So I'm going back day and the next week or so
to stock up on tenants and some classic iron blue. Well, yeah, I think it's a wonderful campaign
and it's nice to see Scottish comedians put in their heft behind it as well and raising awareness
because the summer is coming in and you never know, you know, you need to be careful. Yeah, I mean,

(34:31):
I remember when you and I went to Tina Park in 2004, I remember the Sunday, the sun was very much
behind the clouds and getting burnt anyway, even though, cause just because we were outside all day
pretty much right, because we were camping. So we're like literally outdoors the whole time. Yeah,

(34:52):
I remember getting getting a fair bit of sunburn even though it wasn't sunny at all. You probably just
got fucking browner. Yeah. I do have that kind of olive skin complexion. Yeah, somehow. No idea,
but yeah, I did tan like last weekend, we were out most of the day outside and yeah, on the walkup

(35:14):
on the Sunday and I just had like a total sun tan. It's kind of faded a little bit now, but yeah,
just got brown just from being out in the sun all day. Yeah. Oh, tenants. Tenants. I've got an
IPA on the website. Oh, may have to sample that next time I'm at home. Yeah, got some
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(35:37):
I'd like the retro jumper, which has like the old kind of, it's still just a T, but it's
and you can as connoisseurs that we are looking at it, like that's the old tenants T. I like that.
It's really nice. So yeah, it's a good somebody. No, I think it was a jumper. It's a great jumper
towards the bottom. I've not got there yet. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yeah, that is the, oh, yeah. Yeah,

(36:03):
it's nice, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And you can tell it's just the, that's the old tenants.
The old T, yeah. Anyway, okay. Enough online shopping that we're doing.
Buying tenants. Tenants, if you'd like to sponsor the podcast, you know what? I'm going to put one
of your adverts in for our sponsors. Just help us a lot. But yeah, I think this is wonderful.

(36:24):
I'm really happy that they're doing this. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, I mean, it's something,
I mean, I, I'm quite moly. So I'm always a bit, but I'm not moly. I'm quite freckily. I've never,
I can never sure the difference between a more than a freckle. I think mobs are sort of raised
in which case, I've got like two moles, one on my side and one on my back, I think, I think,

(36:45):
I think one of that. And I'm quite freckily. So I'm always a wee bit, we're all shaggy, we're a wee bit
careful when I'm out in the sun, but I don't manage to get like a little bit of color about me
this week when I've been at the beach and stuff with her mutual friend a little bit. I mean,
but that's, that's going through like factor 50. So, you know, so I wish that that's fine for me,

(37:06):
like a little bit of color. But yeah, so I've always been a bit, I've always worried about,
but I've always, that's always been one that I've always worried about skin cancer because
I'm very freckily, you know? So like I, like, I like being outside when it's hot, but I do keep my
beer bits covered up. Anyway, what's your next story? My next story comes from Glasgow live this week,

(37:28):
Greg. Bearsden cat stuck up 25-foot-high tree, tempted down with McDonald's burger.
I thought I would do this because obviously you have cats and you're a cat lover, but I'd
let's see what you have to say like this. Harris the cat, who is well known locally, according to
his owner, got himself stuck up a tree near one of his favourite watering spots, the burn-brae.

(37:53):
Worried owner Julia called cat's protection Glasgow volunteer, Kirste, who previously retrieved
Haggis from a local McDonald's restaurant after he had a two-day bender in the fast-food place last year.
With a fire services unavailable, Kirste called local tree surgeon Mike from Oak Tree, who managed to
tempt Harris over, with a McDonald's burger within 10 minutes, all free of charge. I believe Julie

(38:17):
says Harris, who has his own Instagram account documenting his journeys, is now grounded following
his latest stunt. She told Glasgow live, "We've got a tracker, so we know where he is, but he's well known
in the area. He's been brought home from over a mile away before he's a wee rascal."
He does things like this on the regular, and he's become a bit of a celebrity. He turned one

(38:40):
in April, and has only been at life out in the last six months, but he goes everywhere. He likes to go
to McDonald's, and then other places like local pubs in the Sunmanpool. He spent two days in
McDonald's once, and that's how I got to know Kirste, because she brought him home that time after
a two-day bender in there. He been out all night, which is what he does. I went looking for him,

(39:04):
and saw he was in a tree. I could hear him, and I saw he was up that tree. A phone Kirste,
the fire brigade wouldn't come, and we couldn't get him down. Our idea was to phone the tree surgeon.
We got some burgers from McDonald's, and he went up to coax him down, and it worked. He was quite
distressed, but the tree surgeon was great with him, and didn't charge a thing. Harris is now back home

(39:27):
and safe and sound after his ordeal. Cats protection Glasgow volunteer Kirste said,
"I met Harris in December last year when I was frequenting, I'm McDonald's, having worked out how
to use the automatic doors. I managed to scan him for my crutch and return him to his mum,
Julie. Since then, I've followed his journey on Instagram, and I've met him several times in his

(39:49):
daily joints. Julie Cole, by when his tracker showed he was stuck up a tree, I decided to try and
find a tree surgeon locally who might help him. My gans are the Cole, and he was there with it,
and I wore with his climbing equipment. He had Harris down safely in less than 10 minutes. It was his
first time being called to rescue a cat, and he did it completely free of charge. We're so grateful

(40:11):
for his generosity that our good people in the world and Harris brings us together." So there you go,
Greg. Cat tempted out of a tree with a McDonald's burger. When we first started this,
this is the type of thing that was like, "Why is this news?" Why didn't you know what it was? Why is this
news? Why, what the fuck? But yeah, McDonald's burger. You've got cats, do they ever eat McDonald's?

(40:34):
My cats, I've had to get any teeth. I've had to have them removed over the years because
they're serious reasons. Chicken nuggets were too hard.
Just a safe eating too many sweets. I mean, that's the sort of, that is the sort of
nice little story at the end of the Scottish news. You know what I mean? Sixth-thirty,

(40:55):
and BBC or something. Just a little palette cleanser after all the fucking poverty, misery, gang wars,
all the other fucking, all the other shit that we've had to missheteer away through for the past few
months, trying to find some swallowy-search, swallowy-centric stories. But yeah, I know they,
one of our cats, we moved house June last year and he managed to get out. We weren't. We don't

(41:19):
routinely let them out and it was out for a week and I thought, well, one less cat, that's a result,
but yeah, but then we found them again. He was sitting and someone's born at about just in the street
behind us, after being out looking for the cunt every night in all sorts, you know, that was fucking,
was literally like 30 metres away the whole time. Brear cats are cats are all, I wouldn't say that I

(41:43):
would be, I don't, I would describe myself as a more of a cat apologist than a cat lover,
and I don't mind cats, but you know, if we doesn't have any cats, I would be just as happy,
maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe even about happier. Fair enough. Okay. That's fair enough. And they

(42:06):
fucking live forever as well. Would you ever think I'd go to McDonald's for your cat though?
Oh, be a way, be a way, be a way see journey. Well, I mean, had us at a two day bender in the McDonald's,
which I'd like to see what happened to him when he was having his two day bender there, because
I don't know what, but I can hear hadises after these hard things from here. Yeah. Do you think he was

(42:32):
just, I mean, can I imagine if you went to that McDonald's next day and you're getting cat hair in your
burger? I know. I know. I can, I can imagine the fucking fat growing around these hearts at the moment.
Do you know the guy was, I watched, do you remember him Morgan Spurlock, the guy who did
Super Size Me when he ate me, Donald's every day for a month? I've never, you know,
McDonald's since I watched that. Right. So I should say the late Morgan Spurlock, because unfortunately,

(42:57):
passed away last year, I think, but he did a sequel Super Size Me last year, where he looked at the
sort of fried chicken industry and I thought it was going to eat fried chicken every day for a month,
but that was not what he did, he really, what he did was he wanted to set up a, like a sort of
restaurant experiment, selling fried chicken, but sort of selling it honestly. It's, it's well worth a

(43:19):
watch. It makes you never want to eat anything in the US ever, by the way, if you went to the
America again, you would want to take all your own food to last you the amount of time you're going to
be there after watching this. But basically, there's this breed of chicken that has been, it's not
been genetically bred this way, but just the way it's been bred over the years, it grows very,

(43:40):
very quickly. So it goes from sort of cute little chick to they can absolute bruiser within about six
weeks. They're called broiler chickens. And because they grow so quickly, often their heart just
gives up because they're, their heart doesn't grow quick enough to keep blood pumping round the body.
So they're just fucking, they just like peg out and big, and because they grow so quickly,

(44:04):
they're lazy bastards. So they don't wander around. They, they've got them in these big, they're,
they're free range in the sense that they're not in cages. And to call a chicken, a free range chicken
in America, all you have to do is give it access to about four square meters of outside space.
And out, because of the, these chickens, because they're so fucking lazy, they don't go outside,

(44:29):
they just sit on their arse, right in the, in the, the big barn thing that they're, that they're grown in.
But because they could go outside if they wanted to, then the big chicken company gets to say that
they're free range chickens. Shocking on it. Absolutely. Absolutely. Mental place when it comes to food.

(44:51):
America, everything's in dustry of ice, even the fucking growing of chicken.
Well, there we go. I don't know if Harris has got to worry about that, but yeah, if he gets lost again,
they can tempt him out with an orbit almost burger. I wouldn't back had us in a fight with one of these
broiler chickens, by the way. They, the, the cat would be like, make, make, make, make, make,

(45:16):
big manus going up against the fucking giant haste ax of the, the broiler chicken, just getting
fucking squashed, they, they, they fucking kink on Bundy. All righty. Well, let's hope that Harris never
gets into that kind of predicament and he remains safe and knows where his local McDonald's is,

(45:37):
wherever he needs to go there. Okay, have you seen anything else this week Greg? I have not.
Okay, right. Well, before we go on to what we're going to be talking about today, let's have a
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(46:26):
Okay, so it was your turn to choose for this week's episode, Nikki.
So what are we talking about today? Thank you very much, Greg. So today we will be talking about,
forget about me, Michael Winterbrotem's debut film for Channel 4 Television, which tells the story
of two Scottish squodies stationed in Germany who granted Lee for Hogmanay set off not for home,

(46:52):
but to Budapest and a simple minds concert. On the way there, they pick up a hitchhiker, a beautiful,
an enigmatic young Hungarian girl, Chilla, which sets in motion a love triangle that will change
their lives. Starring you and Bremder and Brian McCarty as the two leads and Zuzana Vacquori as the
love and trust Chilla, this was the first time I had seen, forget about me, Greg and I only kind of

(47:18):
discovered it a few months ago and you'd mentioned you hadn't seen it before either. So what did you think
about, forget about me? The most jarring thing about it was Brian McCarty's voice doesn't seem to have
broken. He seems so young in this, doesn't he? Yeah, so young. Have you think about, you know, his

(47:40):
later performances, he had a really gravely voice? You know, I knew, I knew that as well,
and he was dressed up as a big chicken and stuff like that. Yeah. He was a gravely voice,
and he sounds about like 14 years of age, this is what it does. And he does seem very, very, very,

(48:00):
you know, like 1990 is 35 years ago. Yeah, you know, it's a long time. Yeah, but he must have still been
his early 30s at this point. Are the 30s really? Just 64 and he's born in the 60s surely. He's born,
oh, doesn't say what Yuri was born, it just says he's born in 22nd of January, um, Brian McCarty.

(48:24):
Good research here, 65, he was born. 65, so it would have been 25 then. Okay. Yeah, yes, 25.
You know, so still young, but I suppose 25 is sort of younger now than it was back then.
But and you and Brenner is also very young in his voice is the same,

(48:49):
you know, is it is now really, but yeah, I mean, unfortunately, the version available to us on YouTube
is burned from like a VHS, which in which which was taped off the tally. As you can see, you can see
the wee that wee, kind of black and white square that used to get that indicates something's pre-recorded,

(49:10):
right? It's, um, it's never been released on DVD and it's never been repeated, I think it
might have something to do with the simple minds concert footage, I think, for usage. I was a speaker.
Yeah, and I was surprised when they turned up. We actually saw them on stage.
You know, like it was, I enjoyed it because it's quite interesting, really, it's, you know,

(49:33):
they were the weird thing about 1990 is it's not quite the 1990s in terms of how things look
at still 1980s, really, you know what I mean, the 1990s hasn't really established its own sort of
looking feel. It's obviously after the better than wall was come down, so obviously that makes

(49:54):
the nalarmicae difference with it really to get going hungry or anywhere like that. So yeah,
I mean, it's, I don't know, like some of it was a bit predictable, you get it in a lot of ways,
it's quite the sort of traditional sort of romantic drama really isn't it, but you know, the fact
that it's two very distinctive Scottish actors in Hungary, where you and McGregor seems to sort of

(50:19):
fit in Hungary, but I'm, I'm not so much, but that's because he's, you know, he's dressed like he's
off to Ibrox, but, um, but no, I think it was, it was, uh, I was really interested in it, and I like,
I like Michael Winterbottom, he directed one of my favourite films, uh, which is 24-hour party people,

(50:40):
yeah, of course, the Haccy Ender and uh, factory records. But what about you, how did you,
how did you, how did you think of it? I did, I really enjoyed it. I think, you're right in terms of
1990 does still seem a bit more 80s, and I guess because it's saying hungry, it's kind of like a,
a little bit more. Yeah, I don't always say backwards, but you know what I mean, like it, it's a little bit,

(51:04):
still catching up on time, and it's still very much east, because most of this was filmed on streets
of East Germany and Hungary, so yeah, um, and I think it would have been maybe a roundabout the time
the war came down in 1989, 89, so yeah, it would have been filmed just after. I did, I really enjoyed it.
I think, I think probably mostly because I do like you and Bremner and obviously a huge fan of

(51:29):
Brian McCarty, and I find it, you're right, it is quite formulaic in terms of, okay, you kind of
know what's gonna happen, but also there were parts where I didn't know it was gonna happen.
Yeah, you're kind of waiting to see that there are a little bit of glimpses. I really like the,
the two characters, I mean, they were so different in terms of a bunny and broke, uh, bunny,

(51:51):
played by Brian McCarty and broke, played by you and Bremner, so different, and you do kind of buy them
as maybe not friends, but like colleagues, yeah, they're there, but maybe you kind of get, if you
then broke, can I just put it up with bunny, but broke seems like such a sensitive and
pensive kind of character, whereas bunny is just a total, real extrovert, head case, then

(52:14):
Ranger, still he dies, obviously, and you know, he describes himself as Scottish,
Red, White and Blue, Protestant, oil and true, and he, you kind of get a feeling that has,
is broke really arsed about going to see simple minds? I mean, like, he doesn't seem that bothered,
I mean, the fact he leaves the concert that spoiler at the end and never seems that enthusiastic,

(52:36):
whereas bunny is like, simple minds daft, and did he only get broke to take it because he had a car
and can drive, and bunny can't drive? Well, that seems, that was the, seems to be the contention to me,
you know what I mean, because, you know, you, you do think to yourself, why would these two be friends,
because broke is a bit of a fucking downer, I mean, bunny, like, going away for a few days with bunny,

(53:02):
would also be my fucking worst nightmare. Yeah, yes, yes, fucking pain and the fucking arse, but,
but, yeah, the, the broke is just a fucking, it's just like a total downer, you know what I mean,
is, and the, bunny can't drive, obviously, so he does need someone to take him, but at the start of

(53:25):
the film, you can get the impression that all these are sort of, to accommodate brothers and arms,
you know, friends, there's this whole backstory for broke that don't really go into, there's like a
scene between him and Silla where you think maybe he is going to go into it, but, you know, we get,
we get, we get, we hear a little bit about how he was through those foster homes and stuff like that.

(53:45):
So as I said, I know, and there's the whole scene when he's shaving and she's chasing them about,
and he's, he's top off, he doesn't like, be entouched, and you're like, all right, is there something more
going on there, a bro, because he, like, a victim of abuse in the care home system and all that's
kind of thing, and maybe we're going to hear a bit about that, it's going to be a bit of, he was
going to end up bearing his soul to Silla, but then it sort of doesn't, you know, and it sort of goes

(54:11):
from not someone who doesn't like to be touched to somebody who fucking deserves the army in which
I'm pretty sure is illegal and would end up, we'd end up being arrested by the military police
for doing that. So by that, I suppose, you know, they, it's quite a short TV film, it's like I never
heard in like 15 minutes or something, so it's so much she can do in that time. But yeah, just the

(54:37):
very unlikely friends. Yeah, I was going to come on to him at the end, effectively,
deserting and leaving shades of the last episode with Laura Fraser, just fucking off to him,
with her daughter leaving the police. Yeah, I have to wonder what's going to,
going to happen there with Brooke. I think they do a good job in terms of the two characters are

(54:59):
obviously very polar opposites of bunny as a, a brash, loud, obnoxious guy, huge, ranger's fan,
wearin' his union jack t-shirt. Ironic that simple binds it is favorite band,
it Jim Carers like a massive Celtic fan. No, but we can leave that by the side. And

(55:20):
Brooke is a really sensitive guy and you're right, they do touch upon a couple of times in terms of
possibly is upbringing or something that's happened, there's a scene with him and bunny in the car
and they're speaking about family and how they, they both couldn't wait to effectively leave their
family to go and join the army. And you think what's happened here? And of course as you say,

(55:42):
like it's a bindster about foster homes, they're both broken individuals, that's why Brooke probably
is called Brooke because he's broken. Yeah, and I think it's a very polar opposite and it's, you
can tell that Brooke is really a sensitive guy and he's obviously been a squad, he's seen a lot of
stuff happen, he does go into a little bit of a story about, you know, his friend dying and yeah,

(56:06):
it's kind of touching a scene with Chilla and you can tell almost like that's his first taste of,
of love and he's experiencing new things and feeling new things but he doesn't see that arsed
kind of initially. Like no. He's so, besides, what he first sees her, he says, she's a angel,
but then Bunny kind of seems he's interested. So yeah, kind of takes a back step but then it's almost like

(56:31):
as the, the, the kind of movie progresses, he realizes that he has feelings for her and he likes her
as well. Yeah, and then he sort of makes that, but it's still, you know, it has that night with her
where they go and look at, you know, some of the, some of the architecture and stuff and Buddha
peish then have about, you know, a bit of a heart to heart and he, but you know, when he comes back and

(56:52):
bunny's in a half, he decides to give his ticket to her so she can, so he can take her to the concert
and then, you know, she doesn't want to go with him and she's sort of falling in love with
broke after spending that night with him and then, and that doesn't even end very well, that does
it because, you know, he, he ends, you know, she's, she goes back to her mum's, I think, and he goes back

(57:17):
to the hotel. So, yeah. So the, the whole premise is center round these two Scottish,
Scottish stationed in Germany. Maybe that's why they're friends because they're, um, Scottish and,
you know, we like to stay out of our own kind of kindred spirits and they're off to go to a simple
mind's concert on New Year's Day in Budapest. Are you a fan of Simple Minds Greg or do you think

(57:41):
they're just a little jock's bashing guitars? Um, no, I don't think they're just a little jock's
bashing guitars. I like, I do like Simple Minds. Like, I like New Gold Dream, that's a great album,
and there was some bangers, Simple Minds. Like, I, I, I, I, I, Ironic, they, they're biggest banger,
um, wasn't one that they wrote themselves, yeah, but, um, no, they're like, the fucking good band,

(58:05):
Simple Minds. And they're sort of interesting as well because they can have started off
because of Scottish punk band, and, um, and very, very quickly sort of embraced a different
type of sort of music, which is a bit more, don't know, I mean, it's, it's not, it's not like
Neuromatic, it's nowhere near Neuromantic. No, it's not, it's, you know, it's maybe got a little bit

(58:26):
more in common with maybe early you two or something like that, or maybe a bit, uh, don't know,
maybe a little bit, uh, goodbye Mr McKenzie, something like that, um, so you say, Simple Minds of
the Scottish you two, not what you're saying. I wouldn't say that, but I would say that maybe they're
music as maybe got a little bit in common with early you two. No, I could see that. Like, obviously,

(58:50):
like you said, don't you forget about me, obviously, they didn't write. I mean, Jim Carr did add the
La la la la, and uh, claimed fucking half of the credit for it, but, uh, fair play to him. Um, yeah,
great song. I mean, a live and kicking is a, is a fucking anthem, really? Oh, so might say McEwan's.

(59:13):
I'll go though. Yeah, because that was the kind of person they, uh, for years and years. And, um,
I mean, promised you a miracle is a fucking great song. Yeah, that's a great song. That's early,
and what kind of Simple Minds and the waterfront as well. Great song. Yeah. No, I think they're a good
band and, you know, fair play to him. It's fucking married to Chrissy Eint and then trade the rain for

(59:35):
Patsy Kenseth. Did you hear the eighties guys talking about that the day? Yes, I did, yeah,
but, you know, uh, do you know what, do you know what, do you know the punk, but the punk band that's
sort of spawned Simple Minds, you know, what it's called? No. Johnny and the self abusers. Oh, okay.
Lovely. Yeah. But no, no, I do, like, I like, I like, I do, like, they're, that's not very early

(59:58):
or stuff. Um, but no, they're good band. You think you're good band. Simple, uh, Simple Minds.
Well, but yeah, you're a fan of, uh, you're a fan of the, of the Minds. I wouldn't say it was a huge
fan of the Minds. I do. I like them and they're okay. It's like, as I've said, I think that, that,
a few of their songs are great. I wouldn't say they were a huge influence on me. I mean, I'd obviously
remember, but I, but I think about them, I think about fucking Jim Kerr and being a massive Celtic fan.

(01:00:23):
So I think about, so they're going to say, I think I think about cans and McEwan's Lager. No,
but in a strange way that I don't associate Rhodes Stewart with Celtic that much. If you know what I'm
me, it's weird, but then I associate Rhodes more with Scotland. The Scottish would both team and I do
this, for some reason, but I kind of associate Simple Minds with Celtic, um, much in the same way I

(01:00:43):
associate Tina Turner with Rangers. Probably never set foot in eye blocks in our life, but,
oh yeah, but never even heard of Rangers. Um, then, then let me ask you a question then. So
successful Scottish bands, right? So bands that have really done incredibly well,
nationally across the UK, across Europe, and often in America, do you sometimes feel, even if you

(01:01:09):
don't really like them, you can feel that you have to sort of find a bit of enthusiasm,
find something that you like about them, just because that a Scottish band getting on and, you know,
making waves across the world. Uh, yeah, probably. I mean, you could say that with like Lewis Kapaldi,
I don't like his music, but I like him as a person, so that maybe doesn't count because I, I don't

(01:01:36):
have anything, I like him. I don't like his music, but I, I, I will watch an interview with him because
I think he's fucking hilarious. Uh, what, what about the guy who on X-Factor who looked a bit like
Joe Jordan for the get his teeth fixed? Ah, he's something. James MacArthur, is that him? He's not
Scottish. James MacArthur. I thought he was Scottish. Or was he? Yes, I think he is. I think he is

(01:01:58):
Scottish. Um, there was a Scottish guy, so Scottish guy, one X-Factor, like, yeah, I mean,
obviously I would always cheer on the, the kind of Scottish, um, acts on something like that, like
the Madonna Brothers and stuff and, um, oh, yeah, right. He's English. Yeah, James MacArthur's English.
Yeah, yeah, I remember them getting into a Twitter spat with him years ago.

(01:02:20):
At least, very funny. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah. The Scottish guy that won it was the guy called Liam,
got me second, he came from Livingston. Uh, it was sort of Leon Jackson. Leon, that was it, not
Leon Jackson. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I didn't support him, I would say. I didn't know
whatever Westlife song he covered for his Christmas number one. Or if you got to Christmas number one,

(01:02:42):
I don't know. Good luck, he man. But yeah, I would support him. Uh, only, I don't know that it's no,
yeah, like a, the love Travis and, you know, France for nine years. In terms of like big Scottish
man, the Shell McManus. Shell Manus? I mean, she was big. Um, she, she, um, she, um, it turns out big.

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Scottish like bands artists, the, the, what, made international success. I mean, the base A
rollers, obviously is, uh, uh, one we've rode Stewart, we're claiming, we're claiming, we're claiming,
brought, um, I think, yeah, it's a bit of a, Linus Avronia. I mean, she's hardly international,
but even national success, maybe a little bit. Uh, Lulu, yeah. Um, I mean, she obviously will take like,

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you know, we've got a lot of little, uh, ones like Franz Ferdinand and Frighten Rabbe and,
she needs to. Travis, she needs to. Yes. Um, uh, Sydney Divine. Um, what about, uh,
Shirley Manson, our mutual friend, Big Crush and her? Big Garbage, Garbage were big. I mean,
you there, probably the big cross. I mean, to be fair, probably the biggest, if you're, if you're

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taking Manson, the biggest is Lennox, Shirley. Lennox. Annie. Oh, Annie Lennox. From Aberdeen. Annie
Lennox. I've been in a flight with her. Annie Lennox. She sat in front of me and my mum on a flight
from Heathrow to Aberdeen. This should be the, should be the, should be the, should be, should be
nice. She saw it. Uh, I don't know. I don't, I never even realized it was just when we got up to
depart. My mum, not me, she went, that's Annie Lennox. And I was like, oh, fuck, so it is. Uh, she

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seemed very nice. She was very personable. They're a very nice person. I mean, you'd have to be a deal with
Dave Stewart for years, right? Fuckin' hell. Yeah. I mean, that's probably the biggest, the saint.
Is it because, uh, kind of bad singer? Like Annie Lennox? I mean, simple minds, obviously they had,
like, uh, was it number one or number two? Don't you forget about me? Uh, I think it was in the US.

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Yeah, I think it was, because the movie was a number one film as well, isn't it? So, I mean, that's a
huge success. Uh, you've also got, you know, Texas with, uh, make it a huge run for a couple of years.
Yeah, quite, quite like that. The album of Texas that was out in the sort of late 90s that they

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had all there, that sort of, the one that Chris Evans liked, remember, because they've been,
Texas has been around for quite a long time. Yes, because they've been around for, like, years and
years and years. Yeah. And then Chris Evans liked that album, or they liked the song of that album when
he was doing the radio one breakfast show and arguably turned them into fucking overnight successes after

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years of grinding away, trying to fucking get in the top 10, you know? I mean, you can argue, I mean,
as much as we'll say about Scottish bands, like I'm a big fan of Delametry. Um, obviously Deakin Blue,
but then the, the, the claimers, they've had like a Jewish US hit with 500 miles, because it was in
a Jim Carey film, wasn't it? It was not in like, uh, I can't remember what film it's in. It's on

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the Vinnie Zellweger, um, the, uh, 500 miles is in, I think, and, or is it in Dumberteller? Uh,
you mean I mean, oh yeah, yeah, and, yeah, 500 miles became like a, a big hit in the US after that.
So I think the claimers could be, could they be the biggest selling Scottish band worldwide? I

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don't know. We should really have researched this properly. Yeah, maybe they could be, um, I'm not
saying maybe we should have researched it properly. We definitely should have researched it properly,
but yeah, but like, again, in terms of record sales, because I'm, I'm probably, I wouldn't be surprised
if the record company put that single out again after you mean I mean, just because it was on the
soundtrack, you know what I mean? All right, Greg, uh, daily record from, um, two years ago, the six

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biggest selling musicians, Scottish musicians of all time. Okay. Uh, number one, of course, now,
there could be cheating here because technically he is on the record. So there, there'll probably go
more record sales here. Um, number one is mid-Jew. Mid-Jew? Is that his solo career or with ultra-vox?

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I think they're including band aid as well in that. Really? Because they'll include record sales. So,
yeah, ultra-vox and, yeah, thing. Uh, number two is, uh, Emil Sandey. Oh, really? She did have a
thing kind of clip, yeah, should have a little bit, bit, bit, bit. Uh, number three is the basic
rollers. Wow. Class. Uh, number four, how, how have we gone this long, Greg without mentioning them?

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That's shocking. That is shocking that we've gone this long without mentioning them.
Wet, wet, wet. Oh, yeah. Maybe because I'm not big wet, wet, wet, fine. Um, number five,
loose-capulad-y, number six. I'm a man who I am very jealous of because he has been somewhere
I'd love to be Ricky Foster. Calvin Harris. Oh, okay. Uh, yeah, Calvin Harris. I see, yeah,

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wet, wet, wet, forgot about it, wet, wet, wet, wet, but yeah, um, I guess we don't,
don't, wet, wet, simple minds, kind of similar. Well, we're more poppy, uh, simple minds,
had a bit more edge, I guess. Yeah, well, we're wet, fucking sellouts, no balls, you know, they have,
like, fucking, although I think Marty Pellal, ironically, very much the rock star life,

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sales, perhaps more, perhaps more than, uh, I don't know if Jim Kerever, small crack, but, um,
but, um, although I know Marty Pellal's sorted his life out now, but the musically, it's all a bit
vimpristic, doesn't it? Limpristic, yeah, rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling. Yeah, I'd love to
them as well. They weren't Scottish though. We're coming to Dubai in August, or they, you know,

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something, I would go and see them. I just for a laugh, I bet it'd be fucking brilliant. I'm going to
see them. Oh, yeah, fantastic. Oh, I'm using it. Oh, oh, quite jealous now. It's, like, fucking hell.
Wow, it's amazing. Anyway, uh, right, simple minds, uh, so the, the whole concept is the, so
minds they bring, uh, they bring, they, they pick up, uh, Hungarian hitchhiker, Chilla, who, there's a

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wonderful build up around things I, I think in this that, um, I know more scene that then when
broken Chilla are kind of chasing each other in the room, you mentioned when he's having shave and
stuff. Yeah. And there's like a minute before the kind of sexual tension kicks in. Now, how do we
feel about Chilla? Like, she's, she's this kind of mysterious character, then is she just in it

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for something like she's with Bunny initially and she's always asking for a present in the hat scarf.

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Now, what's about this, anything present for me? What is it with you? I was wanting to advise on
something. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know. I just don't know. Absolutely pointless.
I haven't got any send-offs to. I just don't believe it was something.
Show me, show me, bro. It's a very nice, very nice. Is she just a freeloader? Was she just not

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interested in Bunny, but just didn't think that broke was interested in her, but then when broke
kind of makes it clear that he is interested, she gets scared off and then they kind of end up
getting together. What, I didn't know. What do you think about the, what is our endgame? What is she
looking for? Slag. Slag. No, like, I don't know. Yeah, because like, you know, she, she, she sort of tells

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them both that she's a music manager when they should first meet them, right? Then it transpires
that it's just a waitress in a bar, but then they go with the sea, a TVA's band that were, you know,
not very good. They're a real-life band, by the way. Yeah, just don't know very good. They are called,

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so in the, the film they're called, the VHK, the real band. They're also known as galloping coroners,
and a tiller who plays a tiller, he is real name is a tiller, and he is the leech singer of the band.
No, really. That's how they're the hun, Gareon. Yes, exactly. Yes.
Yeah, so they come not sure what, what were supposed to think of her, whether she's, you know,

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she thinks that bunny is the easy, the sort of, the, the path of es resistance to get closer to
broke, or maybe, you know, maybe she read up about sort of Rangers fans and Protestants or camera.
(laughs)
And thought, oh, no, I don't find it. I feel like that very much. And, you know, her,

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bit she was looking for a bit of exotic, Scottish, love in her life. And she obviously has a
bit of a troubled life in terms of, like, she loves her mum, her mum is abusive because she
slaps her in the face, but she's also a bit of a, a bit of a scamp, you know, she's,
yeah, but, I'm stuck in the house for a week to go and buy a hat and just vanishing and then hitchhiking

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back. She has her boyfriend, Attila, who is quite rightly annoyed that she's buggered off for a week
to get out and has come back with these two English blokes. And that's something that is very prevalent
throughout the whole hour and a half minutes of this film that they keep getting mistaken for
English and they keep having to say no, for Scottish, for Scottish, well, not English, for Scottish,

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well, like the English, but more manly. And I think the, it did put across quite well in terms of
that exactly what happens, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not English, for Scottish.
And having to, to kind of get that message across.
I like the music very much from this city. Yeah, yes, but like, like, the Smith and the

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Stone Roses. Yes, the Stone Roses and the Cherry Chainsaws and Happy Monday. Do you like this music
in England? Yeah, well, not English, well, Scottish. It's the same as English except that
we're just a bit more manly. All the really excellent bands come from Scotland. Like, simple
mains, that's super good, is she? Oh, they are horrible. Who told you that? But you're right,

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she's a bit of a pin in the arse, an even better friend and she's a bit of a dick and kind of
is just into money, but I don't know if, you know, when she's like, you could afford it, when,
you know, buy me present, but then it's clear she likes broke. And then, you know, she tells
broke she loves it. And he says he loves her and she says, stay with me. And yeah, I don't know. I

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don't know how long I give that relationship. Probably a couple weeks. And then broke has to go back to
Germany and spend probably six months in a cell for deserting the army. Yeah, for sure.
And I've been to Budapest. Oh, that was one of my questions I wanted to ask you. Yeah, I went for
my friends who you've met, Malky's stagdoo. And taught, you know, this had been saying that you're

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people asking if you're English, reminded me of my flatmate at the time who I'm not going to name
because he would not thank me for making this story public. He's probably quite in bad as the
about it now, but we, you know, I should do in the stagdoo, we had sort of started drinking in Glasgow
airport early in the morning. We had to transfer through Prague. So, you know, we had a few

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paints at Prague airport as well as some drinks on the plane, obviously. And then as soon as we arrived,
we got to the hotel, we put our bags in and went straight to the pub. So we've been in it,
we had been like on the tear and we were in this bar, quite late on, my old flatmate, the stag
and myself. Some people had gone off in search of alternative adventures. And as you can imagine,

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and we got chatting to these two young Hungarian guys, like sort of students, very, very nice guys chatting
away to us. And we asked, you know, we talked for a while and we asked them if they'd ever been to the
UK or to Scotland. And one of them said, no, unfortunately, I've not, but he unzipped his, so a zipper,

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to show a t-shirt that his parents had brought him back from a recent trip to London. And my friend
said, "Bah, that is the Scotland and tore the t-shirt right down the middle." Oh fuck, so, poor kid was

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but you know, it was intensely embarrassing, cringing just like, reliving it. So my ex flatmates
creed it. He was immediately contrite, realized what a fool he'd been. The kid was visibly upset by what
had happened and gave him some money to replace t-shirt and then left. And we hung on for a little bit longer

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with the guy and he was, he was okay, you know, Malke and I spent the rest of the time apologising
for her friend. But yeah, yeah, oh, don't need to think about that too often. So he did a Hulk Hogan
and ripped off his t-shirt, but pretty much. But it was like a perfect, like in my mind's eye,
it's a perfect vertical line from like neck to navel, you know, that's the cheap quality you're

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getting London, I guess. Yes. But yeah, no, so yeah, I'm not really sure how we were supposed to feel
about this. Is it, how do you say her name, Silla? Silla? Silla? Silla. Silla. You know, it's, you do get the
feeling that she's playing one off against the other, but perhaps doesn't make her a very nice character.

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She's adges, you know, she, she's always asking money for something, buy me something, buy me a gift,
but she never asks, broke for anything. Like you kind of get the impression that she's with
money because he just got in there first, but it's broke, she likes, but broke isn't kind of,
you know, that forward. And when he does eventually kind of try to stake his claim, she runs off because

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she's scared and is it because she's scared of that she actually has feelings for him and then they
obviously spend that night together with when he should have been watching simple minds that he'd
left. And then she kind of realizes that no, this is actually it. Like I would love to know what
happens after broke walks back or hitchhized it back to, to be depressed and find out what's happening.

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Yeah, she's probably, by a time he gets there, she's probably back where teller. Yeah, I would imagine.
So yeah, probably. Yeah. He's a fucking creepy bastard as well, isn't he? Oh, it's not all I thought
her, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I feel a bit sorry for Bunny when she storms
out the party and broke was after her and leaves Bunny on his own, but it must feel pretty shit when

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they're made fucks off with a bird and leaves you in your own and a pub or a club, right? Yeah,
it must have. Is that ever happened to you? No, but I know that it's happened to you and that I've
done that. So yes, it does. I can imagine it feels pretty shit. Yes. I apologize for multiple times

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over the years and I still feel guilty about it. But come on, man, she was the hottest girl in uni,
hottest girl. You think it's like, if you didn't have made me of it every now and again, I probably
would have never even remembered it. Yeah, but I still feel guilty about that to this day. It was my last
night at uni, that kind of, well, no, it wasn't even my last night. It was the last night of the winter

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term and then, yeah, I invited you to come along to our party night and then yeah, ended up pulling
the hottest girl at uni and, yeah, up the road and you misjume like, hey, man, I'm like, yeah, sorry,
buddy. I'm sorry, mate. I'm away. I'm up the road. I'll feel good.

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I'll be, but this the next 20 years, but right now, it'll be worth it. Yeah, be worth it. Yeah,
it was. The odd thing about the party is bunny sticks the head on the host. Yeah.
And yet he's not thrown out. No, that struck me a strange because he does. Obviously,

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headbutts that tiller and but yeah, he's still there later on. I mean, I thought what would have lost it
was obviously he puts on simple bites and that gets changed on to shine on by Heise of Love,
which is a fucking belter. And then yeah, but then it reminded me of that. I've not heard that song in

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years and it's like, this is absolute fucking belter. And yeah, bunny just stick the heads on
a tiller, but yeah, gets to stay at the party. Very strange. You'd think he would have been
launched out, especially fucking Budapest, like a little Hungarian guys would have been on him.
And they're in like some sort of death metal band as well. So it's not like they're mucking around.

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You'd be getting, I thought you'd be getting fun over the balcony like,
Johnny Watson and the second series of crime. Was it was it was it crime or was it
it's the third series of guilt. Yeah, guilt. The second series of crime, third series of guilt.
Yeah, yeah, you're right. You should have been fun over the balcony, but he doesn't. And he goes

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wandering around the streets after he leaves the party and then goes back to the hotel room and
watches Hogman A, the bells come in on the TV and then, especially, all the tapes about.
Yeah, that's all he does really. He just throws the tapes around and obviously broke his very
upset when he comes back in. He's sorting his tapes out because I'd be annoyed with that as well.

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Yeah, I know for sure. I'd be more annoyed if I had to sleep next to somebody in a fucking union jack
vest. Yeah, I mean, that is the thing. That is quite annoying when they get to
Chila's apartment and our mom's flat and they're walking in the corridor and he's just banging

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on the doors singing Billy boys. Yeah, that would be an immediate like, oh no, sorry, mate. You have to
go. Yeah, for sure. Just the worst kind of abroad behavior, you listen to. Yeah, yeah. But love
triumphs towards the end. So effectively broke has driven like 400 miles to go to

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from Germany to be the pest to go and see simple minds. So yeah, and ends up leaving the concert.
Yeah, but you know, just as it starts to go and see Chila, you know what? I'd probably do the same.
Which led me to ask like, how far have you ever traveled for a concert?
Um, not far. Not far. I mean, come on, you went to Dubai to Edinburgh last year.

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Oh, yeah, that's for the for that would be the furlest then. Yeah, that's definitely the furlest.
But that, but that was, yeah, I mean, the the concert was the anchor, you know, to just having a
weekend of a two best pal. But, um, yeah, that's probably the furlest. I mean, I would go from Aberdeen
down to Glasgow semi-regular later to see bands at the barrelands, like a, some, be a handful of times,

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maybe less than a handful of times. But the thing is, I guess I was always quite lucky living in
Glasgow because everybody came to Glasgow, you know, whether whether it was the SECC or the barrelands
or one of the sort of smaller venues, you know, that, that's the good thing about living there. And, you
know, if, if it's like a big international group, usually their only Scottish date will be in Glasgow,

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you know, at the SECC or maybe one of the stadiums. So yeah, what about you as far as you've gone?
Um, I did the Aberdeen Glasgow quite a few times. And the, yeah, the second concert I ever went to,
I think was, um, at the barrelands, um, I'm absolutely been, uh, quite zombie. Right zombie, that was,
um, I must have been like 14, I think, at the time. How the fuck did you get at the barrelands when

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you were 14? I have no idea, but I will find out the date and find out. I must have been 14, 15 at
the very oldest. Because I went to see Solas, the first band I saw at the barrelands was Solas
Island and I was, I think I was 16 and I was fucking shitting myself from the minute I got in the train,
the whole time and I got in like no baller, like absolutely no baller at all, but, uh, but I was always

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quite tall, you know what I mean, I think I could usually get, I could, what, usually get away with 18
when I was sort of towards the end of my 15 and coming into sixth and when I was 16. Um, I just
took up, it was the 11th of May 1996, so I would have been 15. Fucking hell. Yeah, I didn't realize it was
over 18s though, or anything like I thought. It was like, right, yeah, but I didn't have any booths.

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Yeah, I mean, the barrelands, the fucking metal detector was an all sorts. That was 1996 man, so
it was fine. 11th of May 1996, yeah, that was, set list is here. Fuck, I'm gonna add that to a playlist
and listen to some points on be later on. Um, so yeah, I did that. And I remember going down probably

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two years later, maybe the year later to see, uh, Manick Street Peacers at the SECC. Right. Um, and
furthest have gone and it kind of, it was basically for the concert, like we wouldn't have gone back
if it hadn't been for the concert, but I did fly from Dubai to London. Um, I went to the same

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Kings, um, went to Malone Keens. Oh, actually, no, you're right. I did fly. I flew from Aberdeen to Edinburgh
to go and see Deathcap. And Aberdeen Edinburgh, Dubai to Edinburgh, basically because Deathcap were
there. Um, but I did fly a couple of years later, I do buy to London and then went to Malone Keens to
see food fighters and deathcap were supporting them. Right. So that was kind of a double family.

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And technically not a concert, but I guess an entertainment thing. I did fly from Dubai to
New York to go to Somerslam. So it was kind of not a concert, but an entertainment. Well, you know,
there was music there. Yeah, there was music there. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that's probably the first
I've gone, but yeah, definitely worth it for all of them. When we were in Budapest, um, Queen

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were playing. Uh, and I think it was when they had Paul Rogers for, uh,
I was a bit of a sweet Freddie Mercury, not dead by quite a lot. Yeah, a long time. I think they,
I think they had, they had Paul Rogers of free, um, singing then I think, and I was in our hotel.
I was chatting to a couple who had come over from England just to go and see Queen. Um, and I saw

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them again, like, then later that night back in the bar, they'd been at the concert and they said
it was phenomenal. Like they were like, they were like, start, they were like, fucking, they,
they sort of star struck even, I think, you know, from, uh, from seeing Queen like, I don't even think,
I don't know if, uh, John Deacon had packed it in then by that point or if he was still playing or not,

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but, um, I think, yeah, after Freddie died, didn't he? Well, that's what I thought, but I'm not so sure,
I think he made it going, I think he packed it in when they, like, when we were rock you, musical,
and all that stuff was going on. I think that was really packed. I could be, okay, I could be
completely, no, I'm not sure, but, um, but yeah, they were fucking, these, this couple were like,
just can't believe it. They were, they were so good. And, and, and I was like, oh, that's great.

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And I'm mind I was thinking, it's not really Queen is it not with it, Freddie Mercury. They were,
I mean, you're saying, you're saying that they were good, but I think probably they were shite.
I mean, it's, it's 50% Queen. Is it, because I always say that when, um, when I say I've seen
Guns and Roses twice, I say, well, actually, I've seen Axel and Friends once, and then I've seen

(01:26:52):
proper Guns and Roses once, because, okay, it was Guns and Roses, but it was Axel with bucket head,
and, you know, it was the Chinese democracy, too, or so it wasn't actually Guns and Roses, but
then a few years later, I got to see, are you, it's not this month, they're playing Abadabae,
you're going? No, Abadabae, I feel when it's going to be the same show pretty much. Yeah, it was

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only, it was only two years ago that they were here, and it was like three-fifths of the original line-up
that I saw. Yeah, of them of Guns and Roses, it was Axel Roses, stuff MacAgan and Slash when I saw them,
and then some, some other guys, and not as well known. So, but yeah, they kept on, they kept on,

(01:27:37):
they kept on, everyone's, they called, you know, we should not have to see the who they've,
and I was like, well, because they're who are my favourite bands, but they, oh yeah, if I could,
if there was some way for me to travel back in time and see the who play, they can, they're like,
early 70s, or the late 1960s, then yes, I would, but, they really want to go and see two
fucking 80 plus-year-old guys, you know what I mean? I'm sure it wouldn't be seen the who, you know what I mean?

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You won't even get Zack Stark, you know? No, apparently that was all of my understanding,
and he's back in, he's back in, he's back in the group apparently. Okay. One thing I noticed about
this, and I don't know what time this aired in, I'm obviously I know it was 1990, but I don't know what
time of day it aired, obviously evening, but there's no swearing in this. There's no swearing at all.

(01:28:27):
Which took me right out because when broke comes back on, like on Hoganie, you know, the next kind of
four o'clock in the morning or something, and Bunny smashed up and scattered his tapes everywhere,
and Bunny says, "You made me look a clown at that part." Yeah. He would know, Eid have said, "You made me look

(01:28:47):
a right-cunt." Like, he would, "You know I said clown." So this, it's so, I was this twice, and the second
time I paid particular attention looking for a swear word for the Francis Bake Me Award. There's nothing,
at all. No, nothing at all. I think the worst word that is used is Bunny does call Chilla a slag at one

(01:29:12):
point, and that's the worst term that is used. That took me out because there are squodies from
fucking Scotland. Yeah. And Hoganie, going to a simple minds concert, the seawort, the f-bomb,
everything would have been dropped around so free, even if they're on their best behavior around
fruilines or Hungarian women. The language would have been very colourful, and out of the, yeah,

(01:29:36):
completely. It's a bit, well, I mean, I think it would probably have been on maybe, I don't know,
nine o'clock, maybe something like that. That had been my thought, like nine o'clock. Yeah.
So on channel four, so it strikes me strange that it's not like a little f-bomb or something slips
through, but, um, I don't know. I don't know. One question I had to ask, so the second night that

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broken, so I sp-sp-spend together. There's that moment when she seems to come down from the ceiling.
Yes. They have sort of spider-man kiss. What the fuck is she doing? Is it a bunk bed or something
like that? I thought it was maybe just like a little balcony kind of thing. Like, is it a mezzanine?
Sort of, yeah, you do get, I can totally see that, uh, living in Amsterdam, you do get a lot of

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places that would be like that, that would have like a little kind of level above that you could kind of,
yeah, right. So it didn't take me out of whack totally, but yes, I did think it was a bit strange.
And that would be spider-man kiss, you know, that we've told him to ride in Christen Dunst in the rain.
I do get the upside down in the rain, lifts up the mask. Yeah. Lovely stuff. Um, yeah. Now, obviously

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at the end, they, they share the evening, broke to sides that he's going to go back. He has to go back.
They get to the border and then he gets out. Now, why the fuck would he leave his car, right? Because
that's a fucking cool car that he has, right? But I get, I get, oh, you're saying maybe no, either
that was a fucking great car. I can love a fucking red convertible beetle like that. Beautiful.

(01:31:08):
I get the grand gesture for cinematic purposes that he's going to hitchhike or walk back to be the
best and win back the girl. But surely you would just tell Bonnie to get the fuck out the car,
turn the car around and drive back. Yeah, well, yeah. But he feels guilty. I just not feel about guilty
about abandoning his friend and all that kind of thing. But, but he can't drive. So what the fuck

(01:31:30):
is he going to do? He's left here with a car that is blocking everyone. Everyone's beaten
their horn. He can't drive it anywhere. What's he going to do? He's still got to get home from
there. Makes no difference if, uh, broke just takes the car and drives back the beautiful car.
I'm still just beating as a fucking beautiful car, man. Yeah. Yeah. You know, of course, he's for

(01:31:51):
course. He's just not my cup of tea, you know, you can't. That can engine in the back and open
the door, put it on your luggage in the front and love it. So beautiful. Yeah. Um, the bigger question is,
why is there not a fucking thousand memes of the close-up of you and Bremner's face as he's running?

(01:32:11):
I mean, if ever a sequence was made for a meme, it's that. Did you ever watch, um,
the guys from Peep Show, Michelin Webb, they had a show called the Michelin Webb Luke. Did you
ever watch that? They had a sketch with Sir Digby Chicken Caesar, who is a homeless man who pretends

(01:32:34):
to be Sherlock Holmes. And they have a little bit when he's like, oh, he must make haste and they
don't, and the camera's on him and he's running. And it's all the fluke. That reminding me exactly
of the end shot of this is the most ridiculous thing. I'm one of the most ridiculous, I've ever seen. His,
yeah, him running. And it's just, could you imagine that was the end of train spotting when,

(01:32:58):
you know, the wonderful see you, McGregor's walking along the bridge with their headbag over his arm,
just walk. Could you imagine it was this? Like, it's the big Chris. But I'm like, how did you think it was
like an idea? The rest of the film is kind of wonderfully shot and some great scenes, but

(01:33:18):
this is just, what were you thinking? Was this that last minute thing that was just added in? Like,
what the fuck? Yeah, very strange, but there should be a million memes dedicated to it. Yeah.
So there should be, because they can't be doing anything. Yeah, I mean, if you just turn it on,
we just turn the film on and that was the first thing you see. It's not, it's not necessarily clear

(01:33:39):
that he's running. No, yeah, you're true. Yeah, that's true. Absolutely. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah.
You're in the bones at anything. Yeah. Very strange. So they have written down here. Oh, interestingly.
So this was written by Frank Kotel Boyce, who became famous for writing the London 2012 opening ceremony

(01:34:00):
for the Royal. Oh, okay. Oh, well, train spotting link there, I guess. Yeah, yeah, there you go.
The sixth degrees of Scottish entertainment. Yeah. Yeah. You know, wow. Okay. Um,
that's it. He also wrote, um, the beautiful game, which, oh no, I thought that was the one that
was on Netflix that was taken off Netflix because of dirty Kevin Guthrie. Um, oh yeah. Yeah.

(01:34:26):
What else is he written? That's interesting. Doctor Who, the real way man. Oh, that's kind of it.
The Corkin Bull story. That one was Steve. Oh, he wrote, um,
so it was for a part people as well, but that Corkin Bull story is a one with Steve Kugin and, um,
Rob, uh, the bus is named from Brighton. Stated Brighton, yeah. Um, yeah. Quite a prolific
scraber. Frank Kotel Boyce. So, yeah, excellent. Do you have any other points about,

(01:34:52):
forget about me? Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten them all? No, I think that's kind of
everything covered. I mean, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was really good. Um, nice little hour
and 11 minutes long and yeah, great to see Bremner and McCarty on screen. And no, I really enjoyed it,

(01:35:13):
but no, I think that kind of covers everything from my side. I'm gonna, I'm gonna float, uh,
perhaps on popular, uh, opinion here. But I'm not sure I'm a big fan of you in Bremner. Okay. Um,
in this, obviously he's a young actor in this. He's quite understated, you know, he's a much more

(01:35:34):
strange performance. Doesn't lose his patience. So, you know, when I think about him as Spud,
really like him as Spud in train spotting. Uh-huh. Don't like him quite as much in T2. When I think
it, when I think about his performance in the creation story, uh-huh. I don't think I'm a big fan.
Oh, okay. I'm not sure. I don't know. There's something that just, I don't know, they're

(01:35:58):
like, and the other things that I've seen him in, you know, like, he's in, he's in Wonder Woman.
It's got a bigger part than Mac Astello, you know, he's not fucking, he's not very good. He's in,
like, he's in Aileen's versus Predator, which is not a good film, um, but he's not great in it.
He's in, uh, one episode of Tiger. Yeah. He's probably all right in that. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I can,

(01:36:19):
okay, I can see. I think it's, it's difficult when you have such an iconic role. And Spud,
is obviously, uh, an iconic role. Um, I mean, this next thing he followed that up with the
asset ice when he was cook or bright. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I'm a big fan of it. Yeah. It's
based on what it's like. Can it seem? Um, he's in snatch as well, of course. He's great good in snatch.

(01:36:44):
He's enjoying something. Yeah. One scene. Yeah. But he's, he's, he's, he's, he's quite good. Um,
yeah. I don't know. Maybe I'm, maybe I don't know. There's something about, I don't hate, I don't know.
Like, I think one of the challenges of this forget about me is, you know, like, it's, I thought,
well, I mean, for me, yeah, I found it difficult to root for broke, you know, just because then think

(01:37:08):
it was, obviously, like, his, his mate is really excited about going to see simple minds. And even if
you're not, if you're going along and you're not that excited, you're not, you're not, you're not as
excited. You could still fucking get in the spirit of it a wee bit, you know what I mean? Instead of
being a fucking downer. Um, so for that reason, like, I thought, you know, it's difficult. Yeah,

(01:37:30):
but I'd be interested to know what happened after the camera stopped rolling same issue. Uh, just to see,
you know, the, you know, does, you know, does he, does he find her? Does, does the, does the military
police come in and let her rest them? But, um, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. There's just
something I quite put my finger on about you and Bremner. Um, and maybe it's, maybe it was just
the character of broke that I didn't really like and I'm just projecting on the poor old you.

(01:37:53):
I've just laid him up on IMDB to see what he's got coming up and there's a TV series he has coming up
which sounds quite good called Cold Water. Um, John moves his family to a rural town,
her friends, enigmatic neighbor, Tommy hiding dark secrets. His fascination with Tommy grows as
wifey when they become suspicious, leading to dangerous unraveling of hidden truths and repressed anger.

(01:38:17):
And the reason it kind of appeals is you and Bremner plays Tommy. Um, John is played by Andrew Lincoln,
um, from the walking dead and of course, um, egg from this life. But the thing that really
sparkly interest and that tells you how it is Greg is, um, it also stars Lorne Mcdonald who played
Spanner in Beats. Oh, cool. And that is the, the one thing that was like, oh, fuck, I need to

(01:38:41):
watch that. Lorne Mcdonald is the main thing that I want to watch that for. Which, which, which platform
is going to be showing it? It doesn't say it like it, it's literally in his upcoming. So I don't know.
Um, it doesn't say who it's for, um, and it's scheduled for later this year maybe. But, um, yeah,
doesn't say who it is. I had to leave the back, uh, Michael Winter bottoms, uh, credit's list.

(01:39:06):
And it would be interesting to know that I know a program at Urafan off, directed in a couple of
episodes off was, uh, Michael Elfick, vehicle, boon. Oh, how silver. That's the orange. Oh, boon.
Fucking boon, bro. Yeah. And I remember I directed one that was quite controversial, but I've

(01:39:29):
not seen it. It was controversial because it had like actual sex and it, uh, nine songs. Oh,
yes. Yeah. I do remember that. Yeah. Never ever saw it. But it was that actor, um, season, uh,
a Q and O Brian. I think he was, I think he was a, I think he was a lead in a, sort of, a cease,

(01:39:50):
like a CCTV or Chalgians BBC, um, show when I was a kid. Um, I can't remember what it's called.
So I'm just going to keep talking while I look at, uh, look it up now. Um, I go back.
Yeah. Jocies giants. It was a Jocies giants. Oh, wow. Um, yeah. Uh, uh, Keanu and, uh,
Chalgians word and street wise. I don't know if you remember street wise about the, it was on

(01:40:15):
CCTV and it was about, uh, cycle couriers in London. Oh, God. Yeah. Wow. Really, really good.
It was like the sort of program for older kids and the sort of Chalgians word, slot,
and the Baker, and the, the, the sort of Baker Grove and Greenchild sort of slot.
I'm a major, remember it because you weren't allowed to watch those kind of shows, weren't you?
Well, I wasn't allowed to watch Greenchild, but my mum, my mum had a new, but street wise.

(01:40:39):
I should probably start me watching that as well. She was okay with me watching Chalgians word. Um,
'cause she was an artist. Yeah, well, that's basically the reason. Yeah. Um, okay. Yeah. Anyway, okay,
then, so shall, shall we put, um, shall we put, uh, forget about me through, or swallow the awards?
Let's do it, Greg. What have we got first? Well, as always, the first award is the Bobby the Barman

(01:41:03):
award for the best pub. The only pub really is the restaurant that, uh, Silla works in, right?
Yeah. I mean, the, the only other place really is the, the nightclub where Attila's Band Play,
but yeah, I went with the, the bar that Chilla works at could kind of, sit in the best kind of place.
Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't like to go to that place where Attila's Band Play is doing.

(01:41:24):
No, it, it, it, it, it looked like it smelled quite a bit. Yeah, it smells still beer and, uh,
body order. Um, next one then, uh, our favourite awards, Patron St of the Culture Svalley James
Cosmo award for being in everything Scottish. Right, Maccardi. It has to be, right? It's been Maccardi.
Yeah. Um, would you make me a Quellen award for, is your Quellen your T's out award?

(01:41:48):
Has to be when Bunny sticks the nut and Attila? Yeah. Exactly what I have, yeah. Bunny.
Headbutting Attila. Um, the Yume Gregor award for the true attrition you did say,
we only really get to see Broke's wee Pigeon Chess, that's kind of it. Yeah.
Yeah. It's, uh, Silip kind of quickly put a skirt back on in the morning. Yep. Um,
as we mentioned already, or their Frances Begby award is somewhat redundant this month in

(01:42:11):
away from in Jephon. Uh, archetypal Scottish moment. Something that we've mentioned, I guess,
constantly letting to have everyone know that your Scottish, not English. Exactly. That's exactly
what I've written down here, making sure foreigners know you're not English.
Um, it's so true though. Ah, so you're, so you're English? You're like, no, through Clencht teeth.

(01:42:34):
No, no, we're from Scotland. I think sometimes here, as you might have discovered, if a
taxi driver is having a bit of unwelcome conversation with you, sometimes they don't even know what's
about anything about Scotland, they don't even know about it, you know? I just always remember,
it's always from when I was younger, going to Spain or Turkey on holiday and just, I always remember

(01:42:56):
the, uh, see you English? Uh, no, I'm Scotland. Ah, Scotland! Yeah. It's almost like, ah,
Scotland! Scotland! Scotland! Scotland! Scotland! Scotland! Okay, you guys are okay.
Kind of ten and super. But the furniture is safe.

(01:43:19):
So, yeah. Yes, yes. The meat, we lock up the water cannon.
So, yes, that is my archetypal, Scottish one, too, yes.
And laughing at my own silly joke there. Okay, and then, next then, the Shonko and the Awards,
who wins? Forget about me for you. Well, I know who it's going to be for you,

(01:43:41):
because you just said you don't, like, you and Bremner. So obviously it's Macardi because
there's no one else reading them. Well, actually, I didn't, I didn't know. Oh!
But, you know, like, I obviously, well, I'd love Brian Macardi. I don't think he's,
but don't think he's pulling up any trees in this, really. No. You know, I thought, you know, he's,
he's fine, you know, but because they're both quite disillicable characters in the

(01:44:04):
own different ways, I, for me, because it's set up a fairly prolific career, I've given it to
make a winter bottom. Ah! Okay, yeah. I, I, I can take that, yeah. Okay. That's fair enough. I gave it
to both Macardi and Bremner, because I felt it's a two-hander, so fair, I couldn't pick between the two.
So yeah, gave it to both of them. But okay, yeah, I'm like a winter bottom, I can take that, yeah. Fair enough.

(01:44:28):
So yeah, I'm just looking at the window here. So this little boy is just circled round to come
and say hi to the neighbor's dog. Um, which he does quite regularly, and it's a lovely dog,
all the way, he does live outside in a air-conditioned kennel, which I don't quite that happy about, but he's
very friendly. Um, but I'm watching because the wee boy put his kickstand down on his bike, and his

(01:44:49):
bike is just fucking rolled away. It, it, it, it hasn't been licensed. It's, yeah, it's lying in the road.
I'm about to go and tell him after we finish, and then see notice his first. All righty, well,
if you want to watch, forget about me, it is on YouTube. Um, as Nicky mentioned in the last episode,
the first few minutes, maybe first minute and a half, there's no sound, probably because there's some

(01:45:12):
copyright protected music, um, that it opens with, but so bear with it. The quality is not great,
but it's good enough to watch. So yeah, give it a spin. And okay, that was my choice, Greg. So,
why don't you tell us what we're going to be watching on the next episode of The Culture Swally?
Well, I've chosen another film for our next episode. Um, it's not too long, it's an hour and

(01:45:33):
40 minutes, so standard length. And I'm taking it back 21 years, the 2004, uh, for the movie on the next
episode. Uh, it's, I've chosen the only film of Ken Roach's sort of quadrilogy, Scottish quadrilogy
that we've not done. So we've done sweet 16. We've done my name is Joel, and we've done the angel share.

(01:45:58):
But we've yet to do until the next episode, A-Fon Kiss. Uh, so, and I've, and it occurred to me when
I was having a look at it, today I've never seen it. I don't know how, because that was, that was right
my sweet spot for independent films when I came out. I didn't see it. Yeah, I've never seen it either,
but I'm aware of it, but no, never watched it. A-Fon Kiss, okay. Um, could you a quadrilogy?

(01:46:23):
Wood, Carla songs a Ken Loach film as well, isn't it? That's, is it set, technically?
Is it, yes and no, don't know, not sure. I'm not sure if it's, I mean, it's probably Carlisle, but I know it's,
don't know, maybe it's not. Um, okay, A-Fon Kiss, yeah, I'm aware of it. I've never seen it, but,
but I mean, it's, the bus, yeah, it's set in Glasgow. Okay, so what's that like a five film series?

(01:46:48):
Uh, I think the Quintralogy, Quintralogy, Quintralogy, I guess, I don't know. I don't know.
I'm probably, we're making fools, we're making fools of ourselves now. Yeah, it's anyway, yeah, okay.
So, uh, Sparks, why on the south side of Glasgow, when a young Asian man and a white lady get together.

(01:47:08):
Okay, yeah, no, I've never seen it. I've, I will look forward to that. Yeah, I did, it's something that
had cropped up in my mind recently as well and thought about it, but yeah, never decided to pick it,
but yeah. Okay, great. A fond kiss will be trading very carefully in the next episodes of The
Cultural Swally. Okay, right. Well, thank you very much for listening. Everyone, hope you enjoyed

(01:47:31):
the show. If you'd like to get in touch with us, you can email us on cultureswally@gmail.com. You can
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(01:47:53):
culturalswally.com for links to other episodes and some blogs and articles on Scottish entertainment.
Fantastic. Right. Well, I hope you have a lovely weekend. Greg, anything exciting, plant?
No, my weekend is completely open because we're recording this on Friday. I'm a billion
haul day this week as we mentioned earlier on because our mutual friend has been here.

(01:48:15):
So we're recording this like quite early on a Friday. I mean, it's past five for me, which means
it's 20 past three for you. Yeah. So yeah, I may contribute to the nighttime economy and go out
for a beer if anybody's around or a nice just line of sofa and have a beer.

(01:48:36):
Fantastic. It's more likely to be honest. So yeah, well, enjoy and yeah, until next time,
I will leave you with a fond kiss. Until next day.
She doesn't even want you. I don't care.
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