Episode 129 - Still Game (Series One) (2002) - The Culture Swally

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Hello and welcome to the Culture Swally, a podcast dedicated to Scottish News and Pop Culture.
My name is Nicky and I'm joined as always by the man who may be the Jack to my Victor,
or maybe the Victor to my Jack. We might debate that later on. I think I'm Winston.
It's Greg. How are you today, buddy?

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I'm very well. I'm very well looking forward to getting into it later on on a still game.
Yeah, me too. So I am. Now I really enjoy going back to that first CD.
Yeah, me too. Very much so I can't wait to get on to it to talk to you about it.
But yeah, how have you been? How's everything?
Goods, yeah. I was just as discussed. I was back in, I was back in the UK just for a few days.

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Not in Scotland, unfortunately, I was in England in Cambridge. But you know, we're just talking
before we started the cordon. I always forget that I actually quite like spending a bit of time
in London. A wee bit of time in London. I don't know if I could live there, I don't know if I could
live there, especially after living in the Middle East for so many years, you know, living there
and being back on the sort of grind of trains and troops and long commutes and all that kind of thing.

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I don't think I could do that now. But nice to go for a visit. I was reminded, you know, when you don't
work in the UK for years, you don't spend as much time there, you can forget the sort of little
idiosyncrasies of the British public. And when I was in Cambridge, I just went, I mean, I was
ostensibly there to help open a restaurant. In truth, I did fuck all. I stood about. They

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literally did absolutely nothing. Honestly, it was a pure sky. But they got all the team,
they had the car photographer there to do some press pictures for the restaurant and they had them
all the team standing out in the pavement posing for a picture. And it's something that
is sort of high street in Cambridge, which isn't a particularly broad street as far as high street

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school. But neither is it. It's not like a union street or a Buchanan street, but neither is it
like an arrow we street. And so all the team are out there. And they're sparing me out of room for
people to walk past. And I was in the pictures. I stayed out the pictures because when I don't like it,
my picture taken in two, whenever I do, and it goes on like 10, you defy it. So I don't.
So I try and stay out the pictures. And so I'm just, I'm just sort of stood in the background

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watching them get their photos taken in this couple or so. I think, what the fuck is this now?
How are we supposed to get past? Fuck's sake, not that. Oh, I'm like, God, honours a room to get past.
You watch a problem. Obviously, just get in a wee picture taken.
Did you do that? Something? You don't really get that here, people are, but it's not the other way
here. People are kind of nosy. You know, they take up the one that's over and they want to know what's

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going on and get involved. Just laugh at that. What is this now? As if they,
do you think they've had something happen to them 10 minutes before? Like someone else getting
their photo taken or something? Yeah, what is this now? Oh my goodness. What is this? What is this new
mail then convenience that I have to endure? Yeah, could you imagine if that had been in Scotland?

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It wouldn't have been out. What is this now? Getting all whole host of abuse thrown at you.
Yeah, or getting an absolute roasting. But there were that sort of typical, perhaps newly retired.
Uptight middle class sort of English person, you know, I, it's fucking ideal of a good joke as a,

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the idea of something funny is like a pigeon landing on the corner, a wimble, then or something like that.
Cliff Richard singing a song with its reigning, you know?
Oh dear, well, well, I hope they were mildly inconvenienced and they managed to get out of it
and everything else remained unscathed. I was watching the news,

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little when I was there and I was thinking about you because there was a news story about a
Scotsman who is going to be a competitive sumo wrestler in Japan. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
amazing. I was looking for it in the in the newspapers, the pitter on her, on her news this week, but
not new, it was newsworthy enough for the BBC, but not for any of the usual papers that we troll

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through the good for stories for the culture, as well, like, unfortunately. Oh, that would be
absolutely amazing. Yeah, we'd love that. I'd, yeah, I'll have to look him up and follow his career
intently because yeah, I went to the sumo when I was in Japan. Yeah, it's fucking amazing. So,
yeah, I'll have to look out and see. It's always good to support our, our Scottish athletes.
Exactly. They support the team. Absolutely. Curling tennis sumo wrestling. Yeah, yeah. I

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was only one other person I know who's in, who's as enthusiastic about sumo wrestling as you,
and that's my old school friend Brendan. He's, he is, he is also made a pilgrimage to Japan to go
and see the sumo wrestling. So, yeah, I mean, I didn't go to see the sumo wrestler. I went to Japan
and we got tickets for the sumo and it just still happened, but yeah, it was amazing because I was,
I was, um, they were absolutely amazed. Like, one of the girls we went with, obviously,

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Japanese and she's a big sumo fan and she was like, if you have ever seen sumo when I was explaining
to her, I was like, I used to watch it all the time. I was like, explaining, I was like, so,
we have, at the time, we had four channels in the year. And channel four used to show some odd stuff.
Yeah. And on a Sunday afternoon, they used to show sumo wrestling and I used to watch it every week.
It's just like, really? I was like, yeah. And then I was like, yeah, they used to show different sports.

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I was like, think before sumo, they should cabaddy. And she said, what's that? So I took
to explain cabaddy to, it's like, that sounds crazy. I was like, yeah, I never really liked the cabaddy
that much. I was always just watching it, waiting for the sumo to come on. So, um, so yeah,
long been a sumo fan. And of course, I loved, I loved Yokozuna when he was in the top of the
UF. I mean, for a Japanese person, I think cabaddy is crazy. We're in a main, this is the country.

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And you can find this online, right? A prime time TV show where men had to get through a
karaoke song while a pretty young Japanese girl, walked them off. Now, obviously, it's shot from above
the singing gentleman's waist, but you can see him and you can see her. And you can see the movement

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of her arm above the elbow, because that's in the shot. I think, I think, honestly, it's one of the most
bizarre things I've ever seen in my life. These guys are almost in tears, but I don't understand how,
I don't know if I could, if I could maintain in a, in a studio with an audience,

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that I can't really crew on me, no matter how pretty the young lady in question was,
or how good the sum was. But surely that, that helps you if you don't maintain then, but then you lose.
Oh, if you lose your direction then you lose. Well, I assume so. I mean, I think, I think the ultimate

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objective is to get to the end of the song without shooting your loads. So you want a song like
song two or something like that. That's not great along. You don't want like a big, you don't want
like a American pie or something, like a full version. Seven minutes song. Maybe that's, maybe
the, maybe they keep the big long songs for like the semi-finals. Yeah, bohemian rhapsody for the

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finalists or something like that. Yeah, yeah, something like that. Anyway, well, obviously the sumo
rest there didn't make the grade, but shall we find out what did make the grade in the news from
Scotland this week? Cure the jingle.

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Hello, this is the out there, have a reason for a casting confirmation. And here is what's been going on
in the new. Oh, okay, Greg, what have you seen in the news this week that you'd like to share with me
and our lovely listeners? So there has been, it's been a, we've had stories about the
Loch Ness Monster before, but I think it's been a few years since we last had one. So this one

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comes from the day the record yesterday, which was the 16th of June. In the headline,
leads Loch Ness Monster spotted for second time this year with sinister recording. I love how it's
just, you know, like if this was in like a broad sheet like the Scotsman or something that would be
alleged Loch Ness Monster sighting, but in a daily record it's just someone saw the Loch Ness Monster,

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so this, this sightings you recorded on the official register of sightings. There's a picture,
it looks like a shadow, but anyway, I'll read the story. An official sighting of the legendary
Loch Ness Monster has just been recorded and it's the second glimpse of the supposed creature
this year. A visitor spotted the Loch Ness Monster on May 23rd and made a report of the sighting

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to the dedicated register. The official Loch Ness Monster sightings register is the register
where any glimpses of the elusive nessy are recorded and it lists a total of 1,162 over the
last 40 years. The mysterious monster has puzzled people across the globe for decades with locals
and tourists reported they see in the strange beast in the depths of the lake. The intriguing

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sighting in May 2035 is a second one this year, but in 2023 a whopping 10 sightings were logged
on the official register. The official Loch Ness Monster sightings register reported that the
visitor could abbreviate that, to write the whole thing twice, reported that the visitor to the
area was there for the Loch Ness quest when they saw the supposed water creature. The Loch Ness

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Monster sighting wrote about the sighting on their website, he, brackets the visitor,
said that he was at the high vantage point overlooking a correct bay when he spotted a small
motorboat emptying the bay. When he checked it out through binoculars he spotted something
long and thin pop-up in the boat's wake. When the Japanese guys off that game show
vanished a few times, but he managed to catch it on film. The sighting lasted three to five minutes

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and took place at 3.40pm. Although many consider the Loch Ness Monster to be a myth, sightings have
streamed in over the years. The first supposed sighting this year, on March 22nd,
described the creature seen as a black mass, looming just under the lake's surface.
This earlier 2025 sighting was at Bora's Beach and the witness snapped a photo of

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speech marks part of the body of Scotland's legendary Nessie. The sighting lasted for several
minutes and marched to it's second, with a clear view of the mysterious monster. The official
register recorded the observer seeing something large and alive, swimming in the water. The witness
described graceful movement with two humps, as has often been suggested, but they said the creature's

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head was hidden. The sighting by a person in March was convinced that they saw one long creature,
in many or still, on the fence, as the weather Nessie does exist. The official walking
nest monster sightings register has recorded Nessie sightings by visitors to the Valkyrie,
going back to 1985. See, when you say "going back" to a year, 1985 feels to recent say "going

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back" to 1985. But I suppose it is 40 years ago. Yes, it is 40 years ago.
You go back to 1965, if you go back to 1985, the official sighting's website even details
that the very first sighting of Nessie was noted in 565 AD by St. Colomba who travelled to

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Inverness. The original that in the description can be found, because right now it's the fourth time
when the official walking nest monster sightings register, with details of this 565 sighting.
So that's it. I remember when I was we and I found out about the walking nest monster just being
like absolutely fascinated and excited by the possibility. But it is, it's a fascinating thing.

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Of course it is. It's a monster in Scotland, like a dinosaur, like in the log, like of course,
and then of course the family Ness, you know, that I added to the whole hype and stuff,
and I thought, do the family Ness at some point on the podcast?
I did look into it, I did consider it, at some point, but yeah, much like Nessie, the family

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Nessage, weird his head, a number of times over the years. So what do you think that they actually
saw? Do you think there's anything actually in this, you think?
Like, you know, I'm a bit of a romantic about this kind of thing. I would love, I mean,
well, the thing is the picture that's on the article is from the March sighting, which I mean,

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so I haven't seen the description from me that they're taught that this story is mainly about,
but this one from March, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
the water is just slightly darker in that part of that part of the photograph that is in the

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other, in the other, the rest of it rather, but you know, I would love, I would love, love,
love, love, love for, there'd be something, but you go to a, you got to imagine that after all
these years, if there was, somebody would have got a right goods, they don't free picture of it,
right? I know. You'd think there was all the technological advancements like nowadays that

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somebody would have spotted it, surely. Well, the Japanese sent a submarine down,
I remember granda tell me that like in the 70s or early 80s, but the thing about Loch Ness is that it's,
do you think it's, it's one of the deepest, definitely the deepest fresh water, like lakes in the whole
world. And apparently there's more water in Loch Ness than there is in the whole of England.

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Wow. And I did not know that. Yeah, it was, that was, that was, that was, that was in the news just
a couple of weeks ago. And better than I mean, that England has a whole district dedicated to lakes,
the still with this more water, there's more water, um, in Loch Ness than there is in the whole of England.
It got, it's, it's incredibly deep. And I think, I don't think like the, whatever the Japanese took

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down at that time, I don't think I could deal with the water pressure so close to the bottom. And
because I think because of the, the kind of Loch bed, I guess it's like pita and, you know,
saw you and stuff like that, it's really dark down there. But to your point, you would think that
I mean, if they can go, if they can, they get a submersible and can map the entire record Titanic,
you would think that they would be able to, you know, but then I suppose there's lots of things

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like swimming about another Loch, right? So maybe it's hard to kind of pin down. And obviously Ness is
hiding because, obviously, knows that they're coming. So, decides to hide, you know, just, just
camera shy. Doesn't matter if what we're taking. So, yeah, of course, she's going to hide and plus it
keeps the mystery alive. I'd love if she'd just like rose like Godzilla out the water and started

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they eating, yeah, side eating tourists. Yeah, that would be good, isn't it? Yeah, just
decimate, well, no, not decimate Scotland, obviously. But yeah, it just pop out, yeah,
some tourists and then pop back in. Yeah, that's that. Keep the dream alive. That'd be awesome. Nessy.
Yeah, anyway, so, you know, why did you write in and tell us what you think about Loch, about

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Loch and S monster? So, actually, if you're overseas, I know that America has like similar myths
around some of their great lakes and stuff about, you know, sort of mythological creatures and stuff
in some of their lakes. But I've probably just copied us because, you know, a lot of them are
descended from Scotland anyway. So, I just ripped off, just ripped off St. Columbus.

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Just think that, sir, they're just ripped off. Yeah, exactly. Well, well, well, can we, can we
rip off the rip off the rip off the rip off all the place names from the UK,
didn't they in Europe? So, yeah, so, so, so, they're ripping off our lovely myths and legends as well.
Yeah, very true, very true. Yeah, anyway, never mind.
That's my first story, which is a first story of this week. My first story comes from the Scottish

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Sun this week, Greg, and the headline is definitely Larry. Obviously, Oasis are, they're back,
they're playing a few shows this are, but Oasis fans have been branded drunk,
Larry, fat and old in secret safety briefings ahead of their three sellout,
Murrayfield, MegaGigs. Snooty Edinburgh Council officials also said punters at August shows

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will mainly be middle aged men who take up more room. I mean, carry the argument.
Leaked papers reveal fears that acts will pull out of Edinburgh's world famous arts festival
due to possible clashes with rowdy punters heading to the Britpop legends three sellout shows nearby.

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Snooty officials expect medium to high intoxication and a substantial amount of older fans
among the 210,000 gig goers at Murrayfield on August 8th, 9th and 12th.
Meanwhile, millions are set to pour into the capital for the French comedy, music, dance,
cabaret and kids shows from August 1st to 25th. The secret planning briefings warn concern

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about the safety of the fringe and its performers. Many performers are considering not attending for
that weekend. There is a concern about crowds as they're already rowdy and the tone of the band.
And in a parent dig at the weight of punters, set to pile into bars and hotels they added,
middle aged men take up more room, consider this when working out occupancy.

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Oasis die hard blasted the sneeding comments which came after claims of boost-fueled parties in the
city's chambers. David Walker, 44 of the Oasis collector group, said, "To call fans drunk,
middle aged and fat is a nasty sneeding stereotype. It's a joondest view. This is David Walker, 44,
people want to have a great time. If reports of counsellors drunk in parties are anything to go by,

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they better be keeping their opinions to themselves. This fan base has changed a lot. There's a new
generation of young fans for a start and parents are wanting to introduce their kids to Oasis for the
first time. The return of Oasis will be hugely exciting for the city. Everyone just needs to roll with it."
Giggour Shandou's 36th of Rox Brasher added, "As a lifelong Oasis superfan,

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it happens to be female and not planning to be riotously intoxicated, I have to laugh." Some people might
say, "I should have said some might say." "Oh no, she does, sorry, I added the people, some might say,
that's pretty outdated thinking from the council. I'm absolutely buzzing for the gig. It's a moment for

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fans and the city, and if that's genuine, they have the fan bases being viewed, I'd be curious to know
what the plan is for looking after local people and our infrastructure. Also, I highly doubt a
single fringe act will actually steer Cleare Vennbrough just because of the gigs, and let's face it,
they're probably just jealous. There's not a fringe performer alive who could draw a crowd like

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that or create a movement like they have." "Oh yes, yes, fuck off. Welcome back on to you in a second,
Sean, don't you fucking worry. Previously, Warren Gallagher brothers are gearing up for their world
tour. Police have said they're working closely with residents in the local area to make sure
these concerts pass off as smoothly as possible, and they've said that we're looking forward to seeing

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Oasis take the stage." So, in my council think that everyone's just going to be fat in middle aged,
and yeah, I was put off going to these gigs basically because of this reason, because
everyone is can it be drunk, lady, fat and old? And I mean, I'm, you know, I'm,

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middle aged, many of those things, I'm middle aged, if I've had a drink, I can be lady, I guess,
I'm not fat, but I don't know. I mean, I was put off going to these concerts, and the
need are they gay? I'm still like, yeah, I'm glad I'm not going. However, I do think it's a bit of a,
yeah, they're just saying it like it is in a way, and I guarantee there have been acts from the

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fringe that probably have been put off going because those shows are on. I know it's only three dates,
but those three dates, you know, it's people are going to be kind of there, and there is going to be
a bit more, you know, if you think about a lot of people at the fringe, and there's a lot of people
on the streets and performing and handing out flyers, they're going to be getting a fucking hell of a
lot of abuse, you would think. Well, I mean, for the first, I mean, the first of all, if you're somebody

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who performs at the fringe every year, you probably need that season at the fringe is just for your
income, so you can't really afford to be like, oh, I don't know, I'm not going to go because some
of ACIS fans are in town. And secondly, the concerts in Murdiefield, right? I think people know that,
you know, if you turn up at a concert or a for a flight, absolutely hammered, you're not getting in,

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you know what I mean, they, I think people, I think people will sort of appreciate that. So, you know,
I think it, to me, it feels like a bit of a fucking storm in a teacup, it'll probably be really,
really good for Edinburgh Council because there will be a lot of people coming to Edinburgh from
all over Scotland for the show, probably even in the north of England, like places like New

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Castle and stuff, if Edinburgh is closer for them, then going big to Manchester. So, in the Manchester
ticket, so they're fucking impossible to get hold of from sure because that's the kind of,
yeah, that's the homecoming. So, it just seems like a fucking, it's just, it's just, it's just typical
of attitudes, I think, in 20, 25 fucking hell. We went to see the man next last year, we, we happy

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to have a reasonable drink, we weren't drunk, it wasn't for the fucking more trying, but we weren't drunk,
but we're at the visible drink. The manics were fucking brilliant. The original line-up sounded,
to me anyway, sounded just as good as they sounded when I saw them in 1995 and when I saw them in 1996,

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and the one that you were supposed to come to be, you couldn't make it, was it 2003 or 4 in ASCCC,
sounded great. Oasis, you know, it's not the original line-up, there's only really no in Liam.
That's the reason that I'm not that excited that it wouldn't see them, to be honest, you know,
it's just the emerald, the big of their mates or musicians and stuff that they know.

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It doesn't, like, I've said that, I'm sure I've said that in the pod before, it might be the band
as the who. If I could get in a fucking delorean and travel back to the marquee and see the who
in the late 60s or the early 70s, I would go and do that. I wouldn't spend the money to go and see

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Roger Doltray and Pete Townsend and I load a fucking thing, maybe I load a like higher musicians,
like run through the song, but you know, no offense, no offense to anybody who does, but you know,
the excitement of these bands, you know, when I listen, if I listen to, they definitely maybe
are what's the story or like everything must go or like, um, end up for the money by super grasses

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like that, they, I love it because it takes part in me back to the age I was then, you know what I mean?
When I was listening to these albums all the time and obsessing over songs and putting mixed tapes
together and stuff, you know, they're seeing no Liam fucking crank out their song book just because
they're getting a lot of fucking money to do it, which is, I mean, that's the reason, I mean, I think for Liam,

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I think Liam's, I think Liam is genuinely excited about, you know, performing as a racist, probably,
maybe even with his brother, I feel like no, he's just fucking, he's been much rather
than performing with a high flying bird, but he probably gets like half the money for doing that as he
gets does for, or even less than half, right? As he will for a thing with the racist. Yeah, because I don't
know if he's actually said it, but everyone knows that it's, the reason no student is because he's got a

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divorce to pay for. So, yes, the main reason that he's doing these combat kicks. Exactly. You know,
I'm sure it'll be a big success and everyone will behave well and, um, hey, the people, the
French might get a boost in ticket sales because people might go and see a show before they go to
the concert. You never know. Exactly. And it was, it wasn't that long ago that the supposedly fat,

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lady, middle-aged, Oasis fans were all upset about all these young people getting the ticket
than they are, you know, they're all Johnny Cum LaTleys and, you know, I was there, I was there when
they were in their pub and stuff, but really, if you think about it, Oasis were only really,
it was only, I know they had a bit of a resurgence in the mid 2000s, right? When they got back together

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and the album was like, why the, the importance of being idol and a few other songs on it, but it was
only really, when the, it's only really the first, when they released the first the albums, that's when
they were fucking really mega. It's not a dwindled quite quickly, is it? I recall. Yeah, like, when
standing on the shoulders of Giants came out, like they kind of, nobody gave a fuck about that,
disappeared, no, I remember buying that the day it came out and going to union listening to it

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in the library on my CD player and being very disappointed by it. So, but yeah, they did kind of fade
away a little bit after that. You're dropping another Oasis, so, little bunny. And I had to do a
hidden care mystery, it was okay, but it wasn't with the, yeah, that was okay, because I'd like stop

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crying your heart out. But then, yeah, but yeah, it was, don't believe the truth, I think, yeah,
Lila and the importance of being idol. Yeah. That kind of, and then our last one, Dig out Your Soul,
was an absolute piece of shite. So, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we'll see, like, I don't know, but I'd
be surprised. I will look at the set list, you know, to see what they play, but I'd imagine it's

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going to be a lot of stuff from the first two albums. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah, you could probably, I mean,
you could, I think if you've seen Oasis before, you could probably, I reckon you could get 95% of the
set list and probably even worth putting a few quite a lot of you getting them in the right order.
That's what I was going to say. Like, I think the last time I the guy sold him live was to be here now,

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tour. So I'm kind of like, well, I've seen it. Yeah, it's not much else that I can, can do. So, yeah,
we'll see. But yeah, I hope everyone that goes has a wonderful time and behaves well, of course.
Yes. What else have you seen this week, Greg? So, this is another music story. This is
some Glasgow live. And it's about the classic grand sort of popular Glasgow music venue,

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that once in a very dodgy reputation. So since it opened its doors, since it opened in the mid-2000s,
Jamaica Street's classic grand has hosted a long list of top acts, including the stereo phonics,
Adele, Fieder and Grassm in Grandmaster Flash. But for people of a certain age, mere mention of this
city center venue can still elicit a nudge and a wink because long before the days of internet

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porn sites, VHS cassettes and even top shelf magazines were a thing. The classic grand was a cinema
which was well known for screening X-rated erotica, which is what, which is what they called
pornography in the 1960s and 70s. It was one of a string of dirty cinemas in Glasgow, which included

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the Tatler and the classic in Menfield Street and the Valleys. Of course, the grand central,
as the classic grand was originally called, didn't start out that way. It opened in 1915
in a converted Victorian warehouse, and the venue had a much more refined feel to it.
Screening a mixture of comedy, drama, in newsreels, an orchestra supplied the background music in

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the grand sensuals smartly decorated 750-seater auditorium. And the cinema was also one of the first
in the city to start showing talkies, but all that would change in the 1950s as the cinema began
to screen movies of a more adult nature. Struggling to compete with the new art deco-cinemas that
were now ubiquitous in Glasgow, the grand sensual shifted its focus away from major new releases

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and started showing art house cinema for art house cinema, e.g. erotica and horror.
Now carrying a decided- they seeded the reputation, the grand sensual was frequented by the kind of
clientele who was no stranger to appear as sunglasses in the trench coat. After lying derelict for a
few years, the venue reopened in the early 1970s with a reduced capacity and called itself the classic

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grand. At first, the classic grand showed family-friendly films, but soon went back to dirty old ways,
showing blue movies according to David Simpson of the Cinema Treasures website. David writes,
initially family-family-oriented double features were shown, but these were met with a poor response

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and the cinema reverted to its previous artistic policy. Back to being a flip it, the classic
grand continued screening dirty movies until it closed in 1990s and later briefly operated as a nightclub,
but it seems to be the case with so many buildings in Glasgow City Centre, a fire ravaged them in 2001

(30:08):
and it was subsequently renovated to become the classic grand music venue we know and love today.
I don't really remember going past any sort of dirty cinemas when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s in
Glasgow. Did Aberdeen of any like, I don't think so, right? The bell went, no, that I can think of.
I mean, I don't the bell, but I don't recall any. I don't know. Like, I can't think of any

(30:33):
mucky cinemas. That was going to be my question if you've ever been in a mucky cinema, obviously not.
No, I can't think of any in Aberdeen, but maybe there was. I'm not sure.
Because I remember the bellmon reopening must have been maybe 2000 or 2001 and it actually
be, it was a good cinema because it did show sort of international films. I remember going to see

(30:58):
Crouch and Tiger hidden drag in there, I'll see the Royal Tenon Bums there, just bizarre that
Wes Anderson couldn't get a movie in the fucking multiplex in the UK in those days, but it was in the
bellmon and they had the, they used to have the quiz one so we can the bar down the stairs like the
film quiz, but I can imagine that at one point in its life the bellmon might have been a, an art house.

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Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it does have that kind of vibe to it, doesn't it? Yeah, it certainly does.
I don't know. I've never, I've tried googling it, but I don't, adults in Aberdeen, obviously.
Careful. But I can't, I can't see anything that's come up, but maybe there was, if you're from Aberdeen

(31:40):
and you know that there used to be an adult cinema, I'm gonna ask that question to someone and see
if they, they have an answer, because I'm sure, I wonder if there was. It's not something I would
really fancy though. No. They're sort of like, it's not, it's thought, it's kind of like a one-man
activity, isn't it? Or women? Yeah. Or women. It's not really, yeah, like sitting around watching

(32:03):
hardcore pornography with strangers. Yeah, it's not really appealing, is it? It's not something
that would appeal to me. I mean, I mean, Travis Bickle, it was good enough for him, I guess,
taking a date there, but yeah, no, not something that would appeal to me. No, no, no, sorry, I know,
it's probably more of a sort of continental activity. I think I was sort of stoic, Scotsman,

(32:25):
probably would have preferred to be somewhere warm and out of, or I'd be able to even out, but as we're
found in the, over the years, during the pod, somewhere warm doesn't have to be, I'd be requisite to,
I just, a Scottish gentleman getting his booby out and fucking, I did get excited today,
I know it in that way, and that there is a cinema in Amsterdam that it's a nice little cinema,

(32:49):
and they're, I think in July and August, they're having like a 60s festival. So they're showing a
load of 60s films and just like once, you know, so it's a Friday night or something. So they're showing
like easy writer and stuff and Rosemary's baby and like loads of 60s classic. So I was delighted to see
and I'm going, I think it's the end of August, they're showing it, they're showing Psycho. Oh, bro,

(33:13):
I'm like, gonna go and see Psycho on the big screen. That's like my favorite film. So yeah,
I'm really excited about that. So I, I saw, I saw Psycho on the big screen at Aberdeen Beach when
it was re-released. Oh, yes. Wow. Must-beat, maybe over 25 years ago, it was before that dreadful,
pointless remake with Vince Vaughan and Anne Hish came out, it was before that. But I remember

(33:37):
going to see it with an old girlfriend. It was, it was me that put her own a Psycho and
her and I were both big Psycho fans. We were going to see this summer. It's fucking brilliant.
On this summer. She's not the one that was a Psycho. No, no, no, no, that was, this was before that.
Okay. Just checking. Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to seeing it on the big screen. Yeah.

(33:58):
Yeah, exciting. Yeah. Yeah. That look good. Of late, it's kind of become my sort of flight tradition to
either watch for the first time or rewatch. Like, I saw a classic old film. Like, so for example,
when I was flying back from London on Saturday, I rewatched probably for the first time in 20 years

(34:22):
on the waterfront. Okay. It'd be so long since I'd seen it. I've had probably seen it once before.
It's my fucking brilliant movie. People be sitting here listening to this thing,
and all fuck me either. Got it content on the waterfronts of brilliant movie. No one's ever said that
before. But it really is. And I watched the original 1930s Frankenstein as well. Yeah. Which is,

(34:44):
which is, which is really good. But yeah, the last time I was in a long haul, I watched Vertigo
again. He'll pitch, like James Stewart, just still be the good. So I watched the birds.
Yeah. I always try and watch at least one or two classic movies if I'm on a long haul.
I might, yeah, I might steal that. I might try and do that because I, yeah, I mean, obviously,
like, two, 14 hour flights to and from Japan. But yeah, on the way there, I fucking watched the entire

(35:11):
first series of Reacher on Amazon. Oh, it's good, though, right? It's fucking brilliant. Yeah. It's
because I watched the first three that I was like, right, I'll watch a film. And I got 10 minutes into
a film and I was like, I want to watch more features. I've just watched the entire thing. And then on the
way back, I watched what we're going to be talking about shortly and made my notes. And then I did
watch a new film, though, I watched the Jason Statham working man. So I was going to watch that,

(35:37):
but I never I'm a working man. It's good. It's good. It's good. Yeah. It's good. It's nonsense,
but it's good. I watched the Midest Touch, the one, the movie about Brian Epstein. Oh, yeah.
It's not get anybody that I recognised in it, but the girl playing Sothe Black was quite cute.
Like, cuter than than arguably cuter than Sothe was back in the end days. Careful. Careful. Sothe who

(36:01):
was murdered by the SES. Right. So we got to get something before we get shot at or something.
Oh, well, lovely. Good to know that it was an adult cinema in Glasgow. Yeah. Yeah.
People were able to to get their freak on and watching the latest scud film in their trench coat
and sunglasses. Right. Anyway, so that's my second story, which you're next story this week.

(36:24):
Well, I'll stick on trend, Greg, and this is from the Scottish Sun last week, and the headline is
X-rated shock. Some of Scotland's civil servants have been watching Netflix and accessing porn
websites on their official government laptops. You figures reveal shocking. Shocking. Government
staff, most of whom were working from home, fair enough, have streamed their favourite Netflix

(36:47):
shows so many times in the past six months that officials say the numbers of attempts to log
into the streaming channel is too high to calculate. I don't think it's too high to calculate. I'm
pretty sure you've got proper figures for that. Since November, there have been six attempts to
access porn hub, six attempts to access Betfair and four attempts to access Paddy Power on Scottish

(37:09):
government devices. The shocking figures emerge days after a rout over a new drive to get Scottish
civil servants back into the office. First Minister John Swiney said that he approved of making
officials work at least two days at their desks to boost productivity. However, the plan for an
average 40% attendance provoked a backlash from staff working at home. The latest revelations follow

(37:31):
health-state, health-sectriotry Michael Matheson, having to resign after he racked up an £11,000
bill on his work iPad whilst abroad on a family holiday, and charged it to the public purse.
Before he resigned his position, I'd agree to pay it back. The latest revelations have been blasted
by critics who said staff should be sacked if caught accessing porn on government devices.

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Benjamin Elks of the Taxpayers Alliance said Scottish tax payers will be rightly
disgusted to see what their civil servants have been up to. It's clear that these pen pushers
have too much time on their hands as they work from home, failing to deliver for hard-walking scots.
Anyone caught using government devices to access pornography should be sacked without hesitation.

(38:15):
The new statistics attained by the Scottish Conservatives follow public backlash over the number
of civil servants still working from home, despite the pandemic ending years ago. Some workers have
been told that they only need to attend their office one day a week, although the official
expectation is fitted to attend too. The work from home culture has a major impact on the vitality

(38:35):
of time centres, with many shops, bars and restaurants reliant on trade from office workers.
A government spokesperson said any attempt to access download, display, store, or distribute,
pornographic, racist, or other offensive material, or material relating to illegal activities,
is considered a disciplinary manner as outlined in the Scottish Government's IT Code of Conduct.

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Action is taken in line with Scottish Government disciplinary policy where concerns are identified.
Scottish Government staff can use device for personal use if this is within their own time,
for example, the weekend or lunch break. This is subject to restrictions on certain activities,
such as running a personal website or attempting to access inappropriate material online.

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So it doesn't say if porn is inappropriate material, though. So can they use their laptops for a
wee Tommy tank at the weekend? Well, I mean, if it's on their own time, I don't see the problem.
Now this gives me some cause for concern. And I'll tell you why. Now occasionally, if I
for the busy week, Friday afternoon's, if we're recording the podcast on the Saturday, Friday

(39:46):
afternoon's a good opportunity for me just to get my ducks in a row in time for the recording.
Now sometimes if for the particularly busy week that might require as much as rewatching the movie
or watching the last episode of a series or looking for, there could be documentary on YouTube about

(40:06):
whatever we've been record, whatever we've been talking about and stuff like that. And I've always
used, I've got my Google account on my work computer. So I use my Google Chrome account if I'm
searching for anything that isn't related to work. But it concerns me that one of these IT bastards
could still see what I'd be doing on a Friday afternoon, like I was sitting in the office, in my office

(40:32):
with a door shut, we can make him on a call. They can see everything Greg, they can see everything.
I'm not able to tell what you've been looking at. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it doesn't, they're not going
to, you know, go into as long as it's nothing that's going to get flagged. So like porn, right?
Yeah, porn or betting sites. Anything that obviously you will get a lovely little

(40:54):
warning from the lovely internet providers in the Middle East to say that it's a band website.
Then obviously that'll get flagged. But no, if you're just watching someone on YouTube, then
that's not going to make any difference. I could always say it was like a work related YouTube thing
I was watching. Yes, that's right. You can say you were looking to see if there was any shake shacks

(41:16):
in Craig Lang. Yeah, exactly that, exactly. So yeah, that is a Scottish government cracking down
on their staff accessing mucky websites that you got cinema instead. Anyway, have you seen anything else
this week, Greg? No, I don't think so. I'm eager to get on to this week's content. Right.
Well, let's get to it. Before we do, let's have a little word from our sponsors.

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Okay, Greg. So, it was your choice of what we're going to be talking about today. So why do you tell
us what we're going to be spending the next day we're so belittling about? So, like I said on the last
episode, I can't, you know, we're going to be nearly five years, I think, next month since we

(42:28):
started releasing the pod, or maybe August. And we've never done this. We did do the original stage show,
which was our sort of inaugural pilot episode, if you like. But it's the first time that we'll
have done a series. So we're going back to 2001, and we're talking about very first series of what

(42:52):
must be by this time Scotland's most, certainly Scotland's most popular, ever sitcom, possibly.
And we can talk about this soon, possibly Scotland's most successful liver TV program, maybe,
Still Game. So, starting Ford Keirnan as Jack and Greg Hemphill as Victor. These are characters

(43:14):
that these guys have been playing for a long time, long before they started making Still Game. Jack
and Victor were character's regular feature characters on Tune the Fat, arguably. And I think in terms
of the regular characters, they're up there with the best of them. And even before that,
on things like pub video, Greg and Ford were playing versions of Jack and Victor. And probably,

(43:38):
most famously before they did Tune the Fat, they toured the Still Game stage show, which is a three-hander.
I was going to say we'd go back to our very first episode, if you want to hear us talking about it,
but it's been a long time since I listened to that very first episode. So I don't know, I don't know
if you should. But if you get the chance, that original stage show was on YouTube. So three-hander

(44:02):
with Greg and Ford and Paul Ryeley who plays Winston, stuck in Victor's flat all day and sort of
legislating life in the late 90s as old age pensioners. It's quite sweary, a little bit blue in places,
but it's really, really funny, still, even after sort of almost 30 years. So, I think like me,

(44:23):
you're, maybe your first encounter with Jack and Victor would have been on Tune the Fat, is that right?
Yeah, definitely would have been, yeah, definitely would have been Tune the Fat, the old men, as they
were known of Tune the Fat, definitely would have been my first introduction to them. And I mean,
I'd like Tune the Fat, obviously, I mean, we spoke about it in our new year episode this year,

(44:47):
and I did, I loved Tune the Fat at the time. Going back now, obviously, I'm not such a huge fan of it,
I think, because certain shows have eclipsed it, namely Berniston and Limit Show.
But obviously, when still game aired in 2002, I watched it as an aired because I knew it was from
the guys that did Tune the Fat. And so, yeah, it was, I guess, you know, the big exposure. I can't

(45:13):
remember if I'd seen the live show before still game actually aired, I'm not sure. I mean, if I
had seen it, it was definitely yours. That was the first time I'd remember seeing it, but I can't
remember if I'd have watched it before still game actually aired or not. It's a murky timeline in my
head that I had in the video, and the reason I had it was because mutual friend of yours who is

(45:38):
known online as Tecmo Joc, we knew him as variety of names, sometimes Prince Charming,
said the way that Adam Ant sings it, sometimes as Akira. His name is Martin, he's a lovely guy,
but he had the second series of Tune the Fat on DVD, and he and I used to end up watching that a lot
after the pub. So we get in, maybe have a rejoin on occasion, certainly have a couple of beers,

(46:00):
and we would watch the second series of Tune the Fat, like fairly regularly. So I remember seeing
the video of the still game live show might have been an ear price maybe in the Bonacore Centre,
potentially, and buying it and being quite, I recognise the Jack and Victor characters,

(46:21):
and him and I really enjoyed that. So when I saw them, I saw the sort of, the
advertised and still game before it was shown back in the 2000s, I was sort of ready for it,
and I was going forward to it, and I have to say, even though the TV show is a little different
in terms of how the characters are portrayed, they're not as old, they look seem as old, they're not

(46:44):
as sort of hard-edged, they did not disappoint at all. Not at all. I remember thoroughly enjoying this
when it first aired, and obviously still game became a point-maint viewing as the series rolled on.
Watching this back, and I go through phases where I'll watch episodes of still game and just pick
and choose from the various 6 series, never really rewatched this, I'm going to rewatch the final 3 series,

(47:14):
just to check and see if some of them do stand up. But I do pick and choose and go through phases where
I will watch and just stick on a few episodes, because it's a great show that you can just do that
and stick on episodes. However, I think it had been quite a while since I've watched the first series,
I guess in my head because I thought I've probably watched it so often, and rewatching it I was in

(47:36):
fucking bits and hysterics as always, I was on a flight coming back from Japan watching this.
One scene in particular I've completely forgotten about, it involves eyes and Richard Whiteley,
and I was watching this on my iPad, I was sat in the front row, so a lot of people would have been
able to see my screen, and we'll talk about that later on. But yeah, I was just an absolutely hysterics

(48:02):
laughing at, so many jokes I'd forgotten, some parts, you know, some episodes like "Corting" for
example, I could basically recite the next line, I knew what was coming, but then there was some bits
I'd completely forgotten about, there was some bits that I was able to appreciate I think a lot more,
and the way this was crafted, and the way that it was done, but absolutely brilliant.

(48:24):
And what I loved and really appreciated about watching this first series again, and especially the first
episode, this just introduces the characters so well, it's like the entire universe is already set up.
Yeah, and it led me to think of a lot of first episodes of sitcoms and shows,
yeah, it's mainly an American thing, I think like friends, big bang theory, how would make your mother,

(48:47):
they all have a first episode of like a new person coming in to join a group, and through that
character, that's how you meet the established characters and get to know them. Like even the office
has that really, because the first episode is Ricky being shown around, and it's just to be all
that same, you meet. Still game, you're just bang, straight in, it's a fully formed world, and you're

(49:07):
just launched straight into it, and you're kind of meant to know who everyone is. And you do get a
little bit of a kind of introduction, you know, like Tam, for example, his first scene is tapping a
bag and a pint off it, so you immediately know, right, he's a con artist, he's tight and stuff like that.
You know, like eyes as obviously a gossip, but you get to know like Winston, well Winston kind of,

(49:29):
you get a bit of a, a meter of Winston in the first episode, but obviously it goes on,
and of course Bobby, you know, my name's Bobby, it's, you are just kind of bang straight in,
and everyone, you know, they don't muck around with it, introducing like Navid and Mina,
you just like, you meant to know, it's Navid corner shop guy, Mina must be his wife, and I just love

(49:52):
that element that you're just thrown straight in, but it's done so well. Well that's a thing, like I,
you know, the thing is, all those American CDs that you mentioned there, the one thing that they
all have in common is they all have multiple, multiple, multiple CDs, right, and there's not that many
sick homes from the UK. The only one, otherwise I can think of it and go on for a long time is that

(50:15):
the Mac one not going out, I mean, they're still cranking, they're still cranking that out, I think,
I mean, that's almost 19 years, that's been on for it. Still, I've never seen a single episode of it.
No, I saw you bit of the end of one on Friday night, that's when I was in Hullabond, and that's why
it sort of sprung the mains, but the, you know, the thing that strikes me about still game in that
sense is that the community that you just described there from the very beginning, it feels really

(50:40):
authentic, and I think it's because, like, Greg and Ford, they just sort of trust the audience, you know,
I mean, they're right in this excellent, but they don't feel the need to have to, because like, if you,
if you never watched "Tune the Fat" and you never seen the still game live show, then these,
they, the two main characters are new to you straight away, right? If you haven't seen them, then

(51:04):
that some of the sketches in "Tune the Fat", you know, and when you see Paul Riley in "Tune the Fat"
sketches, he's playing an old man, but he's not playing Winston, and the same Amar Cox, he's playing
an old man, but he's not playing Tam, you know, and they're usually in the scenes when they're singing
the songs and the pub, which, yeah, some of those, the, some of us still have the power to adjust me,

(51:24):
like, the, if you're going to break a heart, be sure to break a fat girl's heart, they're bigger,
or the backstairs, Lavi, like those two songs, absolutely kill me everything, but so like, when
this first airs, when I immediately introduced to these characters, and I think it's, I think it's,
it's there and true it if right in, and also the performances as well, and there's, there's something

(51:48):
sort of recognizable, because like I tried to watch the first episode, and I tried to sort of
say it myself, right, you know, trying to imagine you're watching this for the first time, which is
quite hard to do because after all these years, we're so familiar with the characters, and we're so
familiar with the, the community of Craig Alang and everything, it's difficult to put yourself in
that position, and, but, you know, I think I managed to do it, but immediately, you know, everything

(52:13):
you need to know about Jack and Victor's friendship in that first episode, and the fact, you know, but
they'd be, they've been widowed for a long time, they've been friends for, since there were young boys
and everything else, you know, everything you need to know about Tab, just from that one scene,
when he taps the bag off the, off the, the, the working in the pub, everything you need to know about
Aiza, everything you need to know about how Navid runs he's shop, you know, just, from, just from these

(52:39):
lovely, really funny, and like they are, you know, it's funny, and it's sort of ludicrous at times,
but it never, it never, like, loses, like the characters remain authentic, even though some of the
stuff, some of the things that they end up doing are sort of ludicrous, like Winston fixing everybody's
meters so they get free leaky, you know? The king of leaky, yes, that must be called,

(53:05):
I have the king of leaky. Yeah, that's true, that's probably one of the only things that is maybe,
not slightly unbelievable, but does take it to an extra level, but everything else is completely
realistic, and I think that's part of the, the main charm of still game as well, is that the

(53:27):
characters are so well-rounded, but we all know people like that, and they are based on real people
that are new, and you, yeah, absolutely said, but I think the show just has like such a heart to it,
and I think that's why it's so popular and brilliant, because you know the characters, we all know
that, but their traits and quirks aren't just constricted to their age, like, we know, we know a time,

(53:53):
certainly, we know like a nosy neighbor, like gossip, like, I said, we all know at Winston,
and then Navid obviously is basically, and that's why I think Navid is so brilliant as well, because
he could have been a dodgy territory there in terms of a stereo type, right? But he's not,
the fact that he is so quick and witted and so sharp and takes the piss out of everybody,

(54:17):
you know, he likes to kind of wind them up and stuff, and and Mina is just such a brilliant character too,
the fact that, you know, and their interactions, and he calls her like an old boot and stuff, and,
like, you know, but you know that she wears the trousers, and it's so well done, and just the whole
host of characters, it just makes it so funny, and I think it's just, it's because it's got so much

(54:38):
heart as well, that is why this show is such a success, and that it works so well. But I think that's
a thing, like, even, I mean, in the first series, there's not like a lot of sentimental moments,
so we sent them in, we've seen in the courting episode when, you know, Jack doesn't want to,
you know, sort of pursue this possible relationship and factors like, you know, you've been,

(55:00):
it's not, it's not for me to tell you how long a man should grieve his wife, but,
10 years is plenty, you know, and then that, but so, in, in, in other, in other sitcoms that go for laughs
as much as these guys go for laughs, and they're writing, when they have a bit of a set, when they
have a more sentimental scene, it feels kind of awkward, you know, it just, it's, there's something

(55:23):
we've been out of place, like, I think, I think of friends, whenever a friend says about a sentimental scene,
and then I think they get, I think they've got, I think they've got better at it, and friends as a show
rolled on, but in some of the earlier series, they've been, we've been, I've been out of
a sentimental scene, it always felt a wee bit uncomfortable, whereas, you're kind of there,
it's, it's nice to see when there's a wee bit of vulnerability with Jack and Victor, because,

(55:44):
you know, they're very, they're very, they're, they're, they're the, the characters of their time,
you know, old age pensioners in a rapidly changing world, and constantly adjusting to life, you know,
there's so many sort of, I mean, there's jokes about this, and this first series as well, but,
I feel like we say this almost every time we do, like, a, like, an older thing in the pod, but

(56:08):
not sure that you would get away with jokes about old age pensioners freezing,
with a cup of tea in their hand, and pointing, you know, stuff, and just like, they can jokes about
members of their community sort of passing away, you know, but even though, you know, I mean,
it's, it never feels like it's sort of a cruel humor to me, as I feel like they're taking the piss

(56:30):
out of the old age community, of that particular class of society, you know? No, it definitely,
doesn't it? Still showing that the old age have, they're still young at heart. I mean, you're right,
you could say when they're having the, in, in cult where, um, their mate does die, and,
Victor clenched the mug off his frozen head to show that he's dead, and then they're,

(56:56):
they're having a death sweepstake in the pub, and like, you're right, any other kind of show,
you'd be like, oh, Jesus, that's bad, but they, you know, they make a joke out of it, and that's the
whole point. And when Jack gets offended that him and Victor are on the same odds as Pete the J.
Because he's like, I'm not being on the same odds as that stinking.

(57:19):
Okay, piss it, something, um, but you're right, it does have, you mentioned that it was just kind of one
part where there is a bit of a kind of somber scene. The, the other scene that I think is,
it really shows that the dynamic and the friendship between Jack and Victor beautifully is
the, the episode where Victor's family are supposed to be coming. That's right. Yeah.

(57:42):
Now, the whole episode, Jack is basically saying to Victor, he's not coming. He's not coming.
Yeah. And, you know, he, he's Adam and it's not even like a winding him up. He's Adam and he's not
coming. And when he doesn't come and, and they go back to the house and Winston, I say, they are
tanning Victor's angel delight. It, it would be easy for Jack to be like, told you so, but he makes

(58:05):
up an excuse. Yeah. For Victor to cover for Victor. And that just shows the, the beautiful level of
friendship that he's, he's not wanting his pile to be embarrassed. And for everyone to be, he's
it, told you so, he laughed for that. He laughed at in the angel delight. I was laughing at the, when,
when they pick up the message, any kind of ear, and he's like, oh, we're in it.

(58:26):
Halt, too. Oh, no. What time did he see? I couldn't hear the time for that noise. It could be
any time. No, wait a minute. Let's think logically. We'll be arriving in Friday at, for, for,
half two. Oh, yeah, half two at midnight. That's smart, right? Thanks very much for the

(58:47):
little jumpy. What about this? Half three, half four, half four. You're silly, bashed up.
Such a simple joke, but so funny. I was in bits and then it's the same when they go and see
shug, and they're thinking he can get it. Any details, you know, man, rustling coins, change,
this, and they say, never mind that. What time is it? And he goes, how could I tell? There's a,

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you know, the horn from a diesel engine. I didn't think they ran anymore. Brilliant, kind of same
joke, but totally different as well. But yeah, the, the half two is just such a simple line, but
brilliant. Yeah, you're right. There are some elements that I don't know about not getting
away with, but I don't think they would maybe some shows might shy away from, yeah, you're right,

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making light of the elderly. I mean, there are a few other things that I don't know if you'd get away
with them in this. I mean, there is the scene where, I mean, it's of its time. There's a little
bit of casual homophobia throughout the show. All the way up to, right? Until like, I mean, Winston
is still calling Jack Invictor a couple of queer hawks. In the last episodes. Yeah.

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Okay. I was, I was, because there was obviously a scene where Victor speaking to Bobby about his
son and saying he wouldn't come in a place like this. He's, oh, is he a big puffy? And then,
and they say he wouldn't get that early to the night train because some queer hawk tried to touch him
up on a sleeper. I'm, I think my favorite is when Winston comes round and he's like, oh, fox is

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classic. You always get a snobby puffy biscuit in chats. I brought them. Just screaming at fox is
classic as a snobby puffy biscuit. That's just, but that's kind of the, the only kind of thing, the,
the only other part you could potentially say could be offensive and maybe is not quite right,

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but it's handled so well. And the character was probably only meant to be in one episode. She comes
back for six episodes over the whole series is Edith in courting. That is an absolute comedy
gold that piece. It's such a wonderful piece of comedy. So, Jack does secured a date with, with

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Bubra from the British heart foundation. The one with a tits and she brings our sister for Victor
and it's Edith. And I know it's not correct, because we're technically we're laughing at an ugly
woman, but it's so well done. And the fact they keep her silent until she utters the line,
pint again us. And then when Barbara's given Jack a wee kiss that she could Edith goes and

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Victor just gives her that nookie. It's just, it's comedy gold. And then she ends up
fucking in bed with Winston at the end of the episode. It's just so well done. And it could be
easy to kind of laugh, but as I say Edith comes back, I think it's in series two or three either,
and she does the pub quiz. It's true. It's like a good few times, even in the sort of revival as well,

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the big of that. Yeah, I think it's like six episodes she's in in total over the course of the
run. I think she's in the live show as well. So they obviously realized this character is comedy gold,
but then they kind of craft her. They ration, I think they ration, I think after that pub quiz episode,
she wakes up in bed with Bobby as well. So she makes her way through Craig Land, I think. But yeah,

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it's a, I think they handle that very well. So that's something that could potentially be offensive.
I mean, Molly and Carr who plays Edith. When you see her out at makeup in the way she talks,
like she's, she reminds me of like so many of like the classical women that have known over the years,
you know what I mean? And she's, she's incredibly warm when you see her in the interview,

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they she seems to really be a nice, but she's just got that quality, you know, that sort of,
actually, she's kind of formidable, I would imagine, if puts of the test. I think you can see the
the development of the characters as well, because I, the pilot, which is episode one, and that was
filmed before I think the rest of the series was filmed. And you can see slight elements of Jack

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and Victor's characters almost they, they change in the rest of the episodes that my main point
being the interaction with Bobby in the bar. And when they're speaking about the pies,
and in particular Victor, I think in that scene when he's putting on the, you know, lobster thermidor,
or, oh pies pies, it's classic hands of pies. You don't see Victor doing that kind of later on.

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That's, that is very reminiscent of attuned the fat kind of version of the character. It's almost
like the banter boys in a way. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like they're still trying to find the right
footing, but they do. And obviously the, as I said, just that slight part kind of takes me out of
like, oh, that's a, a different kind of side you don't see later on, but still works. Yeah, it is

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a forward with that. What time could you go up high? Hi, hi, I think you're back. Come back, come
back tomorrow again. Yeah. The other episodes that, because apparently the BBC didn't show,

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I mean, they, they don't really have to watch the episodes, you know, especially this for CDs in
any kind of order, but the last episodes with Navid's wedding, when it's the sort of a
society wedding of Craig Lang that I got an invite to that was supposed to be the last episode.
That was, I think the last name of the show was supposed to be Scones. Yes. So there is a, yeah,
the order that went out in and it's different like I watched them on iPlayer and I think if you watch

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someone Netflix, it's in a different order as well, right? So that's why I'm kind of rather than
seeing episode two, I'm saying called because I think, yeah, the way I watched it cold was episode two
and then correctly enough, Scones is the last episode, but the way I watched it was Navid's
daughter's wedding. Yeah. It's the last episode. So I watched the night there when I was in London,

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I just went through them all and one sitting, Friday night. It kind of works though because you do have,
I mean, or is it no? Because obviously the way it's done in on iPlayer family is episode four.
And the beginning of that is Jack getting his wet club door man. That's right. Yeah. So you would

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think, would he wait that long? That extends to have it is episode two in terms of because he's
moved in and he's getting his door man and everything. And they're still speaking kind of about the
characters as if you're kind of not getting to know them because that's when Victor says,
"Isa has been cleaning all day." And that's when Jack's saying like she wants to pump you. And
that kind of, by the time you get to episode four, that doesn't really make sense because we've had

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quite a few interactions with Isa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By that point. So yeah, I wasn't sure if that
worked quite so well. So the characters are supposed to be, well, Jack's, Victor certainly supposed to be
sort of 74. I think he's supposed to do a wee bit older than Jack. Now, for me, that would put them,

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because my grandfather, who I was quite very close to, was born in 1922. So that would put them
sort of contemporaries with my grandfather, which means, you know, they've got all the stuff they talk
about, you know, the episode, family, when it turns out that Jack's not being in central station for
40 years since the 1950s and all that, that sort of rings. But then I remember they did a hogminay

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special when Victor and Betty had, as a flashback episode and they just moved into the, into the flat
in Osprey Heights and they're having a hogminay party. And all the characters, so the characters
are obviously all younger, but they're all like, in sort of 70s, flashins. You know what I mean? And
that episode was kind of discombobulated me a little bit because, you know, I could, I could

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you imagine my, my grandda and I, you know, like I thought a silk big collar, a load shirt with big
sideys and long hair, you know? And I think the, the whole point of the still game timeline is not
to question it, Greg, because I mean, apart from the age perspective, I think Jack 74 as well,
because in the first episode, they do say 73 years in this planet and you've amassed utter shite.

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That's right, yeah. So, now I think they do stay 74 for a while because when they go on,
a cap member, which episode is, which series it is, but when they go on the boat,
that's for Victor 75th. That's right, yeah, yeah. And I think that's like series four for some three days.
So, they kind of stay that age for a while. You don't question it. The big one that I thought of

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that does mess with the timeline massively is you've just mentioned that hogminay episode.
Yeah. Am I correct? I think that's where they meet Isa for the first time. I've only seen it once,
so I'm a cap member, possibly. I'm certain they move in and then they meet Isa.
And that's when they meet her for the first time, which then conflicts with an episode in a later

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series where she's the one that has a photo of them all together. Yeah. And that's how you work out,
Pete the JK was the dad of the guy that's renovating the area. So, don't question the timeline is still
gay. It doesn't work. I mean, it's a really the Simpsons because I remember they can the area,
in the early seasons of the Simpsons, if they had a flashback to when Margin Homer

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were teenagers, it was always in the early 70s. I remember seeing a sea, an episode years ago,
and they had a flashback to when Jack and Victor were Margin Homer were teenagers and it was in the
90s and Homer was in the Grunge band. You know what I mean? So they just sort of, they just get
at like, turn a blind eye to it in the Simpsons and it's been going forever, right? At this day,

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once it's the 989. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I mean, it's a sort of suspended timeline. But I suppose,
you know, I mean, if it was, if it wasn't, and they were still showing it, the characters would be
pushing 100, like almost, you know? I couldn't quite believe watching this as well. I mean, I could believe
obviously because it's, it's probably one of the most famous scenes from still game. And it's the

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scene you think of, I think, when you think of it. And I couldn't believe it was like, God, it's in a
first episode, which is of course the bogus gasman. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's a great scene. Let me end your
whole picture. The whole scene is just wonderful in terms of them. Gate crashing is awake, funeral. And
spilling their sausage rolls into the coffin and the measuring tape. It's just absolutely fantastic

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that scene and pinnacled by the people. And you know, could you open a door? Open the door? Could you
open the door? Please? Yeah. And in there with the coffin for this people has been you're undoing.
Open the door. For I am a bogus gasman with no idea. And I'm here at your unsack, your house.

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There will be no unsackened homes today for this pit hole has been you're undoing on your way,
rogue. Open the door, I say, you old pinching her. No. Open the door, I say, is helping it now.
I tell you, no. Could you open the door, please?

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Absolutely fantastic. And I just couldn't believe it's in the first episode just absolutely brilliant.
That is brilliant. I think that scene and the scene from a later series when Victor is getting the
big pot of fish out of under the bed. And it's they are the two scenes that you tend to see clipped
and just people have just stuck them on their socials. You know what I mean? Never get old.

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Never get old. So I think obviously as we've said Jack and Victor, but then they have this
wonderful cast of characters. So you have Paul Riley is Winston. Winston is just a I think he
might be my favorite character in the movie. The more you watch still game, the more Winston is the sort
of standout. You know what I mean? Yeah. And he's also kind of is he's often the sort of heart of

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it as well because a lot of the time he's a sort of contankerous, you know, kind of no nonsense,
kind of guy, but then there are times when he's you know, he's very much the heart of it. He's way for
his friends and his neighbors and stuff, you know, not least pretending to shag. Yes. That's the

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wonderful part of Winston because even in this series, you can tell him and I to have this kind of
relationship, you know, when he's trying to fast forward her, it's fucking comedy cold. But when
Harry comes back, her husband, he's the first one to kind of, you know, when he comes into the pub and
he's like, why is he here? Why are you serving him? And like, and Jack and Victor like, well, we've dealt

(01:12:03):
with it. He's like, well, why is he not got a black eye? And just tell him to calm down. Winston comes
into his own in courting though. Yeah. That is, you know, a great episode, but him being barred from
the clansmen and you have him drinking alcohol pops with the kids. It's a taste of Barbato.
It's just, he's introducing them. He's going, oh, that shunt Ellen, Barbato, they're a night. And

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and the whole off shoot of him going to Bruins or the first day layer, you know, but even
what he's explaining how he got barred from the clansmen and he's telling the story, but you're seeing
the actual different visuals of the cloudy pint. It's just absolute comedy gold.

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He leaves Bruins for, you know, a message for a bobo Mitchell. And next time, he's going to be sitting
the bingo. The way he's interacting with those ladies and then when she gets a full house, because
Javikou, and it's absolutely fantastic. It's really nipsin with a boobra and culminating with him being

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in disguise in the clansmen. But you're right. I think as the series goes on, you know,
where he gets his leg. And of course, we say that probably to the sea, I think of the most involved
Winston and Stevie and Bucky. And it is when he wins the bet. And he's tottering up.
Stevie, Stevie. And then the one where he's shouting at Stevie, is it, is it Stevie? And he's putting

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the pens in the, the window. Yeah. Winston really does come into his own as the kind of series progresses.
But he's just, you're right. He has the heart, I think. The one I have seen from later on that always
always sticks in my mind is when he's is making the garden on the high flats roof because they

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can use the park. And he's waiting for the bus and he gives the two neds like dogs abuse.
Yeah, pay that freak show bastards.
Bus drives away just kidding. But then we go, so many talking about the dog attacking him. He's
like, I was going to a body post. He said, he said, it only stopped when it saw another wee dog

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would earn hope to. But yeah, Winston, just an absolutely fantastic character. And as you see,
you know, a bit of a grumpy kind of cantankerous old guy, but yeah, he does have a heart and he does,
you know, always wants to do the right thing. And when it comes to his friends and the guys that he's

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around, even Bobby does it. But he is, he does play the role of Bobby's nemesis, you know, as the series
goes on because I think it is Winston that finds the Troy the Gardner video. And of course, that classic
episode where Bobby goes away, I think it's that dialogue us where Bobby goes away on the cycling trip.

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And Winston pretends that he's the owner and takes over, gives him one free drinks.
A absolute classic. What's the episode when he skint and he's trying to pay for a pint,
well, bag of, they just bottles, a bag of gingies. Is that the second series of it?
No, that's in this series as well. It's scones, yeah, because that's the one when he comes in and he has a

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go Harry and then he tries to get the gingies. And then fucking Bobby the bastard, it smashes the
ball. I can't, can't, the shop. Get the gingies, pick.
Again, wonderfully that he's about to eat cat food and then he wins 500 quid on the tin.
It all works out well for Winston, bro. I guess the other kind of mean old man that you have

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his tam as well, played by Mark Cox. And again, a great character in terms of, just absolute
skin flint who won't pay for anything and tries to to con everything and get everything that he can.
But in such a, not a charming way, but all books, he's just got this this way about him.

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And kind of everyone knows a tam. He's just wonderfully played.
He's still a really likeable character tam despite, he is, despite all that.
You know, when he's waiting for, he's waiting for the guy to finish playing the pucky so he can go in
and win all these money or even like the scones episode when he's coming up all the all the sort of
one miners for the products. Yeah. He's just probably a piece so funny. And it never puts you out,

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because like to speak about the, the old men, for example, I mean like James Martin who played
Eric. Yeah. He's, he's the only actual old man. I mean, Paul Young's, but Paul Young as well.
And I get a Jake Darcy, of course, as Jakey, but, but Eric in this first series is more of a
kind of part of the, the core. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Paul Young is shugging, you see Peter J.K.

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a couple of times, but when you see Eric Winston Tam and Jack Invictor sat at the bar,
like the five of them, and you think James Martin is the only one that's actually a old man.
And, but you never think it. You just look out of place or you never think that all those four are
dressed up as old men. You just see five guys the same age sitting at the bar and it's just so well

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done of. It's a testament to the, the makeup or just the, the, the, the, the, the, the, seemingly,
seamlessly. Yeah. The performance, the way they just fit in, it never takes you out of it. My,
my favorite old Eric moment is when they're talking about, it's later on in the series, when they're
talking about getting old. And, you see, look at this. And he pulls up his shoulder leg and presses
the skin in his calf. He's like 15 full minutes. That will take, flat and back it.

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Or when he throws up and Victor's car, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's in Victor's,
had to pick them all up from the pub. And he's jacks, spilling chips all over the back,
sitting everything and, it's, it's like, I was terrible.
Perfect. And he was going, he's been, he's picking up for the pub with the, he was thinking
he's carrying a chip, so he just completely with it, he's spew, and the one screen.

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I saw that clip, the other day. It's, it's, I think it's Winston drops the fish and he's trying to
pick it up. He's, oh, no, it's all crumpling into bits. It's, it's like, oh, it's going to be stinking.
I guess the, the female kind of foiled all of them is Jane McCarty as Isaac. Again,

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a wonderfully well-rounded character in terms of just the local busybody and gossip,
heart of gold, but likes to do everybody's business. Yeah.
likes no everybody's doing played fantastically. And she is just an absolute force in terms of not
so much in this series in parts, but there are, I mean, as a series develops, but there is still some

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great, some of the monologues she just delivers in terms of trying to, when she's telling Victor about
Bubra being married and going on. And then when she's telling Winston that Willey's deed and,
you know, he said the point, the point mind. But for me, the episode is of course when Harry comes back.

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And she comes through with her cup of tea, her cream cracker, a rich, her white late late in her
brain, her take a break and as she calls it, her doodar and she just goes into the sideboard and pulls
like this pink vibrator. And I'd forgotten about that. And I was in fucking bits watching this on a flight

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the image of ice of this pink vibrator. But thankfully there's a chap on the door and Dem she gets
disturbed, but I'd, I'd completely forgotten about it. And it's just so funny to see that.
But I had such a great character. She's got such heart and it shows that they all,
to a certain extent, find an annoying. But when Harry comes back, they all round around her.

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And I know what the texture. Yeah, they are. And I mean, in later CDs obviously you see things like,
you know, Jack and Victor, decorate our house. Yeah, I mean, disastrous. I mean, it's actually
Chris the Post, isn't it? But they end up paying to do it. But they want to save her a bit of money
by doing that. And as you mentioned as well, of course, when Harry comes back again, Winston pretends

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that they're a couple. Just fucking brilliant. The way that Jay McCarrie, because it's, I guess this is,
this is probably true, Greg, him, him and Ford Keenan as well, most like for the most part, but it's
the way that she moves. She really moves like an active older woman. You know what I mean? Where,

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you know, she acts if it's a, oh, if there's a leads, a weak kink here and a wee, like,
tight muscle there and sore bit there and stuff. You know what I mean? And she's really good at,
whether she's mopping the floor or we see her with her coat and hat on, kind of walking across
the estate, like she really evokes that, um, the movement of the character, you know what I mean? It's
not just the way she speaks and all that sort of stuff. There's a slight little like hunch band

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and like a shuffle in the way she kind of moves. But yeah, you're right. It's, it's totally
authentic. Yeah. It's, you know, it's just all polyester and wool in terms of an outfit and, but,
yeah, absolutely genius character and yeah, you love Isar. She's just so good. Yeah, she's brilliant.
She's really good. And then I think there's, there's Gavin Mitchell as boobie. So,

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they, Gavin Mitchell had originally played Winston in the, you know, I think when they did the
still game show at the Edinburgh festival, um, back in the sort of 90s, uh, Gavin Mitchell. But for
what I kind of, there was a story behind why he didn't continue to play Winston when he started
touring the show. I can't remember what the story was. Um, but, you know, it's great that they got

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that they brought him in as boobie because it's sort of boobie because it's such a, he's such a good
character. No. He's brilliant at playing the sort of, you know, this sort of whipping boy for
one of a better word in this first series is just getting pelters. They, they, they take it quite far
later on when they lock him at his own pub when he kind of get the shutter down and,

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for the fishing through the ceiling to the flat up the stairs to try and lift bottles off the
garbage. I guess they're still trying to flesh out boobies' character as well because he's
quite well rounded. But there are a couple of little things in terms of like the first episode
when he's speaking to Joe, Winston's grandson, um, played by Gordon McConaugal who played

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Deepkin, River City for years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's talking about the guy's fighting and he says,
oh, I used to go with my Kelly-at and they're like, well, who's Kelly-at? Is that his third or, is that
thing? And then of course, in the next episode where Jack comes in and, um, boobie says that he's
put on a better weight. Jack fires back with every time I shag your wife she makes me a sandwich. And

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boobie looks quite offended and upset by that. And you're like, well, you don't have a wife, boobie,
so, you know, I could be offended, but I don't know if they were just trying to flesh out his character
a bit more and he was just the barman that, you know, they took the piss out of in that stage and then
later on he does obviously get a full kind of life and backstory and a history of boobie. But,

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yeah, he's just an absolute brilliant character. His interactions with Winston are just phenomenal
in terms of the same in this series, but in the whole show as it goes on. But also with Jack
Invictor, because of course it's the famous, he's always got the double act that he compares them to
and it kind of never gets hold of, look, it's Batman and Robin. Yeah, well, look, it's Phyllis and Dela.

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That's like, yeah, that's rotten part of boobie. Phyllis Dela is one person. That's like saying,
oh, look, it's, they've got to be points to see the bar, look, it's, what's it, Lawrence, the
Wellen Bowen, when he points to, yes, how Winston. Yeah, yeah, there's a couple of moments in this
first series, right? There's in the court in episode, there's a wee mistake, I guess, when

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Victor refers to Craig Lang is Craig Bank. Yes, you know, so I don't know what is that, you know,
so I don't know if that was originally, but it was going to be called that it's just been a wee
mistake that's not been picked up in the edit or something, you know, don't know. Yeah, it can be.
So the program as it goes on, we have quite a few celebrity guests for Want The Better expression,

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you know, I think probably the first, then maybe the most famous celebrity, the famous actor they
ever got on is probably the late Robbie Coltrame in the By the Bus episode, who did it purely of the
fact that he loved the TV show. Yeah, maybe he's been a couple of documentaries about still game.
I think the documentary before the sort of revival, he's that talking head and that one.

(01:25:04):
Yeah, I watched that this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he talks so
passionately about it. Yeah, when he says that his, his sons at the time were like 16 and 21,
and he's like, we still, if we're sitting down and we're like, what would we put on, we'll stick on
still game. We've seen it like 17 times and we're still pissing ourselves like. Yeah, yeah.

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For sure. So yeah, what would we call train Craig Ferguson, the international chat show host
and the late Bing Hitler, Martin Compton, if he's in like one of the new series of still game as a
phone salesman, Clive Russell, Celie Emdey. Yeah, those are those are celebrity.

(01:25:48):
Got David Heyman. David Of course. Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.
I mean, in this first series, you got Billy Boyd. Billy Boyd, yeah, of course. Yeah.
I know Tom Yurie is not in this episode, but he, I mean, he's had to recognize Tom Yurie because he's

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you know, he's young and like, comparatively slight, but when he's playing Martin,
they have an orange because his, his mum has no bot tonics, he kicks, she's bought something else
and again, that's actually, you're going to get your mother to wipe your ass for you, Martin.
He says people still shout that out. Yeah. He's a talking head on that still game, the story so far.

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And yes, he says that at least once a week he gets that shouted out in the street.
Fucking froggy. Oh, sorry to jump about the other.
Classic Winston moment that I sometimes use it if you are meeting, you might, about a mutual
friend are meeting up and I'm not there. It's been Jack and Victor are going at a town.

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Make sure you hold each other's pants and Jack, if you need the toy that you have to see,
you need to go to the toy list.
Yes, very good. I guess the, just you mentioned in there, like Martin and,
you know, white pirouettes for you, Martin, you know, like, Jommie Martin, you kind of get a glimpse of that

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in, uh, Skones when Jack and Victor are at the cinema. Oh, yeah. They come, spotty, specky,
sight man. They're going mental, I'm asking for their refund. They're going to come
round and squeeze if he wanted the boils on his back. That's not good.
Guy, obviously, just getting dogs abuse from these two-openchers, but what can you do?
Yeah, the policy, they can get a credit note and that's it. That's all they could do.

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Well, it managed to bully the money back out of the boy in the end, wasn't it?
It was it. Jack was back and he Westdowns on next week and he just put so the
back closed sign up. I did like the, um, the kind of meta part as well in the show,
in, it's in Skones as well when they're obviously Tam Wins with Skon. Yeah.

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And Jack and Victor are a bit annoyed and they go to see Navid and they say, "What did you come up with?"
They say, "Skony, no, do that." And if he's like, "That's a fish, even the kids have stopped saying that."
A fantastic meta way of taking the piss out of your own fucking creation.
What an asshole. Oh, Smony one by gentlemen. Sometimes less is more.

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You were better than by superior catchphrase, which is both simple and elegant.
There's no better than yours, Navid. Remind me.
Skony, no day like that. Oh, dude, that's no. That is so yesterday. Even the kids have chucked out in.
Anyway, are you buying this paper? No, it's not. Right. So I'd advise the funny thing with Navid is

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there's something really funny about the way Sadgey Kuli plays him speaking in his
bank of war, accent, but using really glass region terms like neds and all that, but I sort of,
at the moment when he tells me that, "Come ahead, Mina!"
It's just really funny. And I think it's like, when I was at school, when I first started school,

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but be there with an abitone outside Glasgow called Coussafe, and there were no Asian kids at all.
And Coussafe is probably about 20 miles maybe, a bit more or less from Glasgow.
Now, there were corner shops that were ran by Asian guys like Navid, but no matter the reason,

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they didn't send their kids to school in Coussafe. But when I moved to Bishop Briggs,
which is closer to Glasgow when I was about six or seven, there was tons of Asian kids,
like in my, there was a lot of Asian kids in my class and in the school. And they all spoke,
you know, the same way that I spoke, but they all had a wee bit of, I guess, their parents.

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So they're not, I'm sure they were 99% than we'd been born in Glasgow, but their parents probably
weren't. So they all had just a wee touch of their parents' accent when they were speaking.
But I always thought it was so weird that, because Bishop Briggs is, you could drive from Bishop Briggs
to Coussafe in 15 minutes. I mean, I'm sure that's not the case now, but, well, I don't know,

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but certainly in the early 1980s, it was, it was a fairly singular sort of race at school,
where as Bishop Briggs, it was much more multicultural. I did read a, I know, I listened to an interview
with Sanctuary Coli and he said that the Navid is based on someone in New England, the accent,

(01:30:36):
like 100% in New York, I, who spoke exactly like that. And you're right, it is a, it does make it
funnier in terms of when he's got the accent and he comes out with something. I did the one that
cracks me up is in Skone again, and it's when he says he's telling Jack and Victory's run out of Skones
and he's got his things, you know, he'll have them. No, he's, he'll be happy with the business. I've been

(01:30:58):
kicking his ass ever since I renovated, but just check the dates, because he's always got Foustie Pish.
And it's just keeling him say Foustie Pish. It's just, it cracks me up.
Not meant in A-Phone Kiss, the Dad. There's a, there's a, oh, there's a little touch of that in the way
he speaks. It's not quite as broad and pronounced as the way that Sanctuary Coli, because Sanctuary

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also used to do a radio four comedy called Fags, Mags and Bags. Yeah, these essentially play in a
version of Navid's only a kind of younger version with his family running a shop in Lenzay, which is
quite a push. We tone just to say Glasgow. It's got far from my eyes to the other instead. So he's

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got, he's going about a mileage out of that sort of characterisation Sanctuary over the years,
you know. Did you have any like favourite moments in the first series that just made you just
whilst out laughing? I mean, the, the bogus gas man will always make me laugh. I could watch like
10 times back to back and I'll still laugh. Yeah, it's the way that Ford Kearlin puts his mouth and then

(01:32:07):
his eye up to the people and because it's distorted because we're seeing it from Victor's side of the
people honestly. It's just, it'd be a new old pensioner. It's so funny. Whenston turning eyes
around is a belter as well. They are two of my, my favourites. And, and I like, I do like a couple

(01:32:29):
of the more sentiment. I did quite like the scene when when we've been Jack's, Victor's trying to
encourage Jack to sort of go and ask Bubarella out and get back out there and stuff. And, you know,
there's even that first episode. There's a wee, there's a little bit of sentimentality when Jack
stuff sold packed up punis, yeah. No, no, one of my favourite lines in that scene is like, here Jack,

(01:32:52):
this can's got a lacy on it. I did read that was a genuine can of tenants, like a genuine old can of
tenants, slugger, lovely, because they did think they could mock it up and they were, you know, at that
time you were actually able to still buy them. So he did, you know, obviously not in a shop,

(01:33:14):
but you were able to source them. So they did. So that is actually an old can of tenants that they
were drinking and he said, yeah, it did taste fucking awful. But yeah, it's a proper can. They bought
three of them like to have it's like, stock cans, obviously. But yeah, it's a, it's got a lacy on it.
Absolutely brilliant, fantastic. I think speaking about Ford is that in the gas man, it is his physical

(01:33:40):
comedy that that lends so much to it. And one of my favourites is so simple, it's in Glasgow
central, we're Billy Boyd with a bat in the ball. And the facial expressions that Ford pulls
is phenomenal. It's just the way he's looking non-chalant as he's banging it. And the fact Victor can't
do it just adds to the humour, but it's, it's Ford's facial expressions when he's doing it. Is it just

(01:34:04):
absolutely just creases me up every time? The fact that Billy Boyd's in that episode, that it
must be because those Lord of the Rings films were starting to come out. So this, that must be just
before he would off to start shooting that, right? Apparently it was just after he'd shot it.
And he just got back, yeah, he just got back from filming it. And yeah, he was kicking about and I

(01:34:27):
think he knew somebody, he knew someone that was on set and yeah, they just gave him that part,
yeah. So he hadn't become like Billy Boyd at that point, but it was just about two. The other one,
I absolutely love is in cult. And it's when Victor and Jack find out that Winston is
the king of leaky and when Jack wants in on the scheme and it is Victor's line about, you know,

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you love nothing to keep you warm, but hot bobby right up your horse. Not. Hey, I'm sorry, Victor,
I'm the one's in the next one. I'm on a slice of this action. Very well, Jack, you're a grown man.
He's made a decision. But consider this, hey, you're world new. But how's he going to be in a wee

(01:35:15):
stony jail, sir? We're nothing to heat you up, but a hot bobby right up your ass.
The delivery for that line just creases me up. But I think that something that still gave us so
well that you can have a scene that should be quite sad and uncomfortable, but it's just hilarious

(01:35:35):
is the scene in Mankey Frankie's flat when he's got the the kids ride that he got from
the shop in center. And obviously they get the they need to make a phone call so he gets the money,
pay for your call, it helps keep the bills small. And he puts it in the kids ride and it starts

(01:35:57):
playing this music. As they are phoning to tell the guy that his dad's died and this just this music
on the background for the kids ride and it keeps saying something as well, like, we weren't over again.
The whole ridiculousness of it, the music when I try to tell Willie is, say, son that is dad's dead,
it's just yeah, just touchy out of it. And Mankey Frankie, just such a great character too.

(01:36:22):
I mean, again, that's a sort of example of a couple of examples of when they put them in,
you know, these sort of ludicrous situations, they that whole exchange when Jackson the phone
and he's making small talk with the guy and then Victor just takes the phone off and says,
"Dad's dead, he hangs up and then when they're roasting, shrug the lug when he's walking on the other side

(01:36:46):
of the wee part lake about the cheap happy shopper bread that he's bought and all that and calling
my prick an egg, he just gets his bread out. Son bless, best of gear, you know, he's, you can hear
from that far away and stuff, you know, but because, you know, they keep in low, they're in a lot of ways,

(01:37:06):
the characters of Jack and Victor are quite true to life, they're certainly quite true to life of
men of that age back then. I think because they're quite true to life, you can get away with putting them
in up against sort of silly characters like shrug the lug who apparently can tell what kind of
train it is just over the phone or the change in somebody's pocket or, you know, those like,

(01:37:29):
we're Mankey Frankie and all that kind of thing, it's just, it's fine, you know, it doesn't,
it doesn't, you're gonna lay for it, you know. That's true, as you kind of alluded to before we
started talking about it, like, this was an overseas success as well. Yeah, yeah, and I'm amazed at
some of the comments and reviews I've read from overseas listeners that just think this show is so funny,
I watched a clip of Americans watching still game and watching the first episode, it was this girl

(01:37:54):
and she was cracking up at some of the jokes, it was mostly them taking a piss at a bobby,
yeah, and she was kind of shocked at these old men saying these things and I think although this
show is inherently Scottish, it does travel well to a certain extent and people can relate and find
it funny, they might not get jokes about Rod Hall and E.M. you but they'll, they'll get the sentiment

(01:38:16):
in terms of the day when it was, yeah, dick tabby or per se for work, they'll still get it. So of
course, this was, I mean, I would say a precursor to this would of course be Rapsy Nets, but because
that came from naked video, a sketch from a sketch show, which became a phenomenal sitcom. Yeah,

(01:38:37):
I was reading in terms of chewing the fat kind of coming to an end and they decided they wanted to
do a sitcom of a character. The other option, it was between this and Ronald Villiers,
they were gonna give him a sitcom, but the only reason they didn't do Ronald, I was so glad they
didn't, was because they weren't sure where Greg would fit it because he usually played, yeah,

(01:38:59):
so you couldn't have him playing a different director in every episode, it just wouldn't work. So
thankfully, they went with Stull Game, which was definitely the right choice. The thing with
Ronald Villiers is it's a bit of a, you know, I mean, it's, it's good fun, but it's sort of one,
it's kind of one no, isn't it? It's him, it's him fucking up on audition. Yeah, pretty much every time he's
on, you know? It would just be like when they gave the Baldi Man his own series, yeah, as well, which

(01:39:25):
less said the better, I think. As I've said, it was a huge success globally and as you mentioned at
the start, is this, I mean, it certainly is the biggest sitcom to come out of Scotland, but do you
think it is the biggest show? Well, I mean, I think, I mean, if you think about Tiger, so I think
probably at one point you would say Tiger, but then with Tiger, we only really got sort of 10 years

(01:39:50):
or so of Mark McManus and then, you know, it went through a period when Jardine was the, the sort of
lead detective and then later on Alex Norton was there for it. So, you know, while some of the
characters were still the same towards the end, it was a very different show. We're still game,
it's pretty much the same cast. The Jake Darsley did pass away before they started filming the

(01:40:15):
kind of revival, like the seven series onwards, which was a shame, but you know, Jake Darsley wasn't in
every single episode as Pete the J.K. Anyway, you know, but intense, so in terms of the core cast of
like Jack Victor Winston-Tam, Eisen the Veed and Eric to some extent, although Eric, you see, we see
more of Eric later on than we do in this first series, I think, yeah, he's a bit more prominent,

(01:40:36):
but the cast doesn't change really. And the other thing I would say is, you know, the revival series,
it's not quite as watchable as the original one, like for sure. However, there are still some really,
really good moments and they do a good job of sort of putting the series to bed with that final episode,

(01:40:57):
you know what I mean? There's just the right amount of sort of sentimentality in that last episode,
and you know, they don't kill the characters off in some dramatic fashion or something like that,
so it's quite gentle, it's nice. And so, as you mentioned earlier on, it's been really successful
when International, they can know a lot of people in England who really enjoy still game and they

(01:41:18):
didn't start showing it on BBC 2, I think, in some of the third series, it was only BBC Scotland
for the first couple of series, the thing that they have done, which, and I saw still game vibe
when they showed it on the TV, which was the show they did at the Glasgow Hyde show before they brought
the series back for the revival. And I have to say, I understand why they made the choices that they made

(01:41:41):
because it was a show, it wasn't a play, it was a show, didn't really do it for me, you know, like the
bank, the Veeds, Bollywoods, Numbers and all that kind of thing, I was kind of, it's not really what I'm
here for. They didn't, they did another two still game vibes that they didn't film, they did still game
live too, which they called Bon Voyage, and that was on in 2017, and then they did, but there were still

(01:42:05):
a few more series after that because the last series was until 2019, and then they did still game
the final farewell in 2018 before the last series went out. So they didn't, the core, any of those other
two live shows, so you can't see them, and then she went to see them, there's no way of watching them.
So I think I don't know about, I don't know a bit that, but they still have lots to enjoy in those

(01:42:27):
last series. I'm not a big fan of the method-own-mic character, the love of what to be honest.
No, I'd agree, it was kind of, he was brought into replace Pete the J.K.
It was, but they used them too much, I think.
Yeah, that was a big deal.
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, needed less is more in terms of method-own-mic, but yeah, I don't know if
that was to try and appeal to a younger audience or something, but just didn't work for me, really.

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And I have to say as much as I've watched the first six series a lot, the last three, I think I've
only really seen once, but this has inspired me to go back and kind of rewatch and see,
like, because I felt it lost a certain spark, and was it maybe because, by the time it came back,
we had two doors down, which I think had captured a bit of Scotland's heart by that point.

(01:43:14):
Yeah, I think that's probably fair, that's probably fair, but I don't know, I think there's
something about those characters. They could probably, if they decided to do another series now,
I'm sure it would probably, apparently when they showed the first episode of the seven
series when they brought it back, something like half of Scotland's chundent to watch that,
when it was, you know what I mean, which is huge. So, I think they could probably, and I think,

(01:43:40):
we spoke about it last year, they've just brought the characters back in a cartoon, in an
comic book, haven't they? Which you'll have to have a look for the next time on back in Scotland.
But I know that Greg Hempel was particularly excited about that, because he's a bit of a
comic skies, and he was in the game, but then he died pool in versus Wolverine movie,
put a nice little Camille Rolls about tender there. So, you know, I think, yeah, I would,

(01:44:04):
it's worth going back and watching those, those revival series, these, but, I mean, you'd be hard
push to find anything as entertaining as those first six series. And the fact that it's still,
this, you know, if anything, it gets better, still game over the course of those first six series,
then, you know, there's not many programs that can put their hands up to that, I don't think.

(01:44:27):
No, I think there's, there's a lot of episodes, you know, I've got it up right now, and I'm looking,
and I'm like, Jesus, that's years four, you know, like the, the wireless, the one where they take the
the job of the local, yeah, the hospital DJ, and, you know, or, and that's the, the series that
dialabas is in as well, you know, it's a, there is a lot of, yeah, in fact, it's series five that they

(01:44:50):
have smoke on the water when they go away, they take the boat for this Victor 75th birthday. So,
effectively, the first five series all take place in a year. So yeah. And, oh god, yes, use five,
the one with Britain's hardest bruises as well. It's, that's the, that's the, Winston comes at,
you're a dick, you're a dick, you're a dick. That's one thing as well, but I was, I wasn't surprised,

(01:45:17):
but I kind of to learn in the entire 62 episode run of still game, the word fuck is never used.
No, it's, it is mouthed when, yeah, in that scene when, when Steve is putting the pens and the,
that we're holding, yeah, it's, it's, it's Paul Riley,
perfectly timed as well in terms of being able to, to just mouth it without being heard. So yeah,

(01:45:46):
and of course, I guess I was speaking about two doors down, two doors down connection, you've got
Jamie Quinn, it's fairie, it'll be late. Yeah, yeah, no, you have me popping up.
Would you say you had a favorite episode from this first series?
I told you, I mean, the first episode is very, very good, but I think if I'm being honest,

(01:46:07):
it's probably Cornton, it's probably the standout episode. Yeah, I think probably Cornton. And that's
the first guest I'd only have Ivy McCallum who was a proper guest star because she's, you know,
Ivy McCallum's one of these actresses who've been around my entire life, a bit funny to see
her playing Boobrubble. And before she even comes on screen, she's kind of described as the one with

(01:46:29):
the tits and, I hope that big honey's on the day, put up with the tits. Say hey, hey, all right, not bad, the tits.
All right, old gentleman, Jack. You're like, who's this going to be off our fuck? It's Isabelle,
take the high notes. I think I'd have to go the same. Like, I love Scones because there's a lot of

(01:46:52):
great parts in that, but I think it has to be Cornton because of the the Iley McCallum and Ileyn Carr,
but for me, it's because that's Winston's kind of standout episode of him drinking the alcohol
pop, so the kids in band from the Klansmen just, yeah, it's a fantastic episode. I think that would

(01:47:12):
also be my favourite. So it's time to put still game through our Swally Awards. Why not? Let's put it
through the Swally Awards. Okay, so our first award inspired by still game is our Bobby the Barman
Award for the best pub. What did you, um, choose, obviously the Klansmen or did she go for it?
To be the Klansmen. She go for one of the ones Winston checks out when he's, well, the other one,

(01:47:39):
you've got her sister, which is Brune's and the Irish pub, which is, I can't remember what it is,
Jack Cossack said, I can't remember what it is, he describes it as, but yeah, it has to be the
Klansmen. I'd love to go for a pint in there. Brune's looked okay, actually, but I don't fancy
getting a message to be bubble Mitchell. No, definitely not. Nice, nice, clear pint, though. When he

(01:48:02):
one pound, when he one pound, bargain. I was struck by some of the prices in that, yeah, they
one pound eighty. Oh, is that how much this is? They, what? What? 20, 20. I guess there's no, I can't
remember how much Winston gets charged for his half pint and a pint in beans, but with a ginger bottle,
some just like one third here, or something. Yes, she's is. Next award then is James Cossack

(01:48:27):
will award for being everything Scottish. So we're just talking about her. It's got to be
I.D. McCallum for me. Oh, I went from that Castello. It is not in the first series, was it?
Yes, yeah, is he? Yeah, he's in two episodes. Oh, yes he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In two episodes. I thought I had to go with Castello. Yeah, I thought I had to go with Castello,
but McCallum was a very close second. I'll give you that. But I did think about going for

(01:48:52):
either McCallum, but yeah, I went with Castello. Okay, next then is the Jake McWillan
your tease-out award. What did you go for? There's a few contenders. Yeah, I mean,
I had a getting the broom shaft up his arse when he stuck in the window. Yeah, and then
I was my winner. And then Eric and Jack falling over in their pair of my grips from Simpson's.

(01:49:14):
Yeah, actually, I mean, my second one that I had, of course, when Peggy falls on Winston,
breaks his arm. And when Isaac's explaining to Jack and Victor, I said, "Oh, Peggy fell on him
and Victor, because is he dead?" As I could see as well, for the giga chops.

(01:49:38):
So you mentioned earlier, Owen, although there's a bit, there is some spacey language in still
game. There's nothing. I wouldn't say there's anything like two, there's no F or C bombs, but what
did you go for for the Frank Beggbey award for gratuitous language? I mean, it's not gratuitous,
but it's just that I laughed so much. It's the delivery of the line that just adding a swear word makes

(01:50:00):
it funny. And I mean, it's just an S bomb. It's nothing bad, but it's in the episode where they're
speaking about Jack's going on about a new toaster. And he's just obsessed with a toaster. And
Victor says anything's better than that heap of shit you've had for the last 40 years.
The delivery of it just made me laugh so much, but what about yourself?

(01:50:21):
Yeah, I mean, for me, it's when they're talking a bit shug.
Eyes are prick. Eyes are prick.
Not the most offensive word, but next one would usually be the
Ume Gregor award for gratuitous unity, but of course, there's no nudity. We're spared the
sight of of Aizas Lady Garden because of the old vehicles. We're saved by the bell.

(01:50:47):
So I'll go quickly on to the archetypal Scottish moment.
What did you go for with this? It's a weird one, right? But I can't imagine any, but any other race
of people calling women bastards. Eyes are your nosy bastards.
It's a very good point, actually, yeah.

(01:51:07):
What is your goal for? Well, initially I was going to go with a tenance logger, lovely.
Oh, yes. But then it has to be smuggling booze into a moose them way.
You get under your coat.
Yes. I think I'm out of that being in the chalmean.
I great delivery as well, but he's like, there's no booze because I moose them, waiting.

(01:51:34):
Pesh, yeah.
It's, I don't know if it's an that seat. Oh, there's a, I think it's later on when
Navid here's about a poker game that they've got going and, um, jacks like, oh, so,
at the end of the video, oh, I have been able to build on them, mean it's like,
mostly she's sick, obviously, and, and far say, or bangalore, whatever, I'm just beach. She's like,

(01:51:56):
oh, uh, Muslims don't gamble. It's like, oh, yeah, that's, that's right, silly me.
Maybe booze, me gamble. It's just, it's brilliant being a Muslim, we just sitting about it
night watching the tally. I mean, Navid is a bit of an archetypal Scottish moment in his own way
as well, just that's the reason we're talking about before, you know. Yeah. Very true. I don't

(01:52:19):
know if you remember that corner shop, rather than adrenaline roads and man's side, that corner shop
was a, I mentioned guy that ran mad and he wasn't, he wasn't as broad as Navid,
but there was a wee bit of, uh, Scottish inflection, or sorry, it glows region inflection and some,
in the way spoke, you know, he's any turn of phrase, was they say? Next one, last one, then,

(01:52:40):
the Sean Connery award, who, who wins still game for you? I feel like, I know what you're going to say.
I'd, I would love to give it to Paul Reilly. I would, I would love to, but it has to be
Ford and Greg, really. Like, you know, they created it, but yeah, Paul Reilly wins it for me, but, uh,
you kind of have to give it to Ford and Greg, really. Yeah, I mean, I think, I've, I've, I've

(01:53:01):
written Paul Reilly, don't, but, we'll give it to Paul Reilly, then. But, you know, for all the reasons
that you were talking, that we're talking about earlier, because they, Ford and Greg have written
every episode of still game, you know what I mean? Yeah. It put their relationship to the test,
because they, hmm, didn't work together for a long time until they got back together to bring

(01:53:21):
the series back and do the live show and everything else. But, you know, they have written this, they've
come up with the characters, the community of Keglang, all those other guys have brought these
characters to life and Paul Reilly, when, when, when Paul Reilly's allowed to get going, he's just
absolutely brilliant. And he's, he's a bit, a bit of a scene steeler, uh, at times as well. And they

(01:53:44):
are gracious enough to, to give them the lines and let them go on with it. I think one of the,
I think one of the reasons that, you know, I, what, I did, I wasn't quite, I didn't, what, I think,
was quite as warm towards Deer Green Place, was because Paul Reilly, to some extent, he's playing a
bit of a sort of straight guy in it, you know, although he's a bit flying, that you're trying to dodge

(01:54:05):
the boss and all that kind of thing, you know, but when he's just, like, in full flow as Winston,
yeah, it's suckest freak bastards, that, I'm, he's just absolutely brilliant. But yeah, I mean, just for,
just creating and breathing life into this universe, uh, and for it to endure for such a long time,

(01:54:25):
I mean, I do not doubt for a second that if they went to the comedy unit that the BBC
said, well, we're doing a hug when they special for still game, they would bite their hands off,
you know, and I doubt, without a shadow of a doubt, they would, yeah. And everyone would love to see
it. Yeah, yeah. And you know, if, if neither of them had ever done anything else with their careers,
they, I think just having this in the old résumé is, you know, it's a, a lifetime achievement for sure.

(01:54:52):
And have you had all weekend stocking your head? Hard to go, to go, to be in the winter boxy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. Is that, is that you? Hi, that's me.
Yeah, they ditched that in later series, but yeah, just, it was nice to see it again,
and yeah, it's been stuck in my head. Anyway, well, we hope you enjoyed listening to us,

(01:55:15):
and throughs about the first series of still game. It's on Netflix in most territories. It's also
on YouTube as well, but how YouTube are getting away with that, but it is. So if you haven't seen it,
you want to get your eyeballs right-runded as soon as you can, because it's absolutely brilliant. But
it was my choice still game, and this beat, which means it comes back to you to choose for the next

(01:55:39):
episode. Well, Greg, I think we've had too much hilarity on the podcast in the last couple of episodes,
because we did 'Limit Show' in the last episode, and still game now. So I think we need to come
crashing back down to Earth. I think we need something bleak, and they don't come much bleaker than what I've
picked next. So, a film from 1999, but set in 1973, we are, of course, on the next episode,

(01:56:06):
going to look at the film 'Rat Catcher'. Could I have picked anything bleaker? I mean, there is one scene
in 'Rat Catcher' that has prevented me from picking 'Rat Catcher' over the last five years,
because I'm too sentimental, and it hurts my heart, but I think it's probably time that I went back

(01:56:29):
and watched it again. So I'm looking forward to seeing that. Okay, looking forward. Yes, that's definitely
something. I may fast forward it. I may fast forward through that scene, but yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Okay. Well, yes, on the next episode of the 'Culture Swally', 'Lin Ramsey's 'Rat Catcher'. So,
that's going to be a very high energy episode, I think. So, we'll be discussing. So, look forward to

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seeing you there. Okay, right. Well, thank you very much for listening. Everyone, hope you enjoyed
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You're up to anything exciting tonight. I mean, it's a Tuesday night that we're recording this.
I don't know. I'm packing a bag because I'm on my travels again tomorrow morning, so,

(01:58:00):
oh, Saudi Arabia. This is the week of the 18th of June and people who are following the news will
know that this is fairly fucking serious conflict going on in the vision at the moment, so I'm not
over the moon about taking that flight, but I did just check exactly where Saudi was in the map,
compared to where Israel and Iran are, and but it's far away as I am in Dubai, so I think I'll be all right.

(01:58:24):
Yeah, you should be okay. All right, well, wonderful. Well, enjoy your bag packing.
And, uh, till next time. Yeah, hopefully I see you again for our episode.
Till next time.
Now, to lunch. What delights do you have on offer? From your varied, an extensive menu.
Pies. Whoa, pies. Do you like Jack? They have pies?

(01:58:47):
Oh, that's gandy because I was getting sick of that lobster thermidor, you know?
When was the last time we had pies, Jack? Oh, just up there.
Oh, well, pies as they're in two pies as they come.
Yes, as per usual.
Fruits in a metal and redro runny, it's so much fun.
And is this the one?
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