Episode 135 - Just Your Luck (1972) - The Culture Swally

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Hello and welcome to the Culture Swally, a podcast dedicated to Scottish News and Pop Culture.

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My name is Nicky and I'm joined as always by the man who often thinks that his framed
picture of James Cosmo is following him around the room after too much electric soup.
It's Greg, how are you today buddy? That's because it is.
It is isn't it? Yeah, you've got it to his eyes. Follow you and you're nearly converted to Cosmo.
Yeah I'm good. Let's be worth discussing before the podcast. I'm just back from my adventure in Asia.

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South East Asia because I live in Asia obviously because the U.E. is in Asia.
I had to remind somebody of when he welcomed me to Asia and I was like, you know what I've been,
you know I live in Asia already and then I thought, why that's just a country thing to say to the guys?
You're just welcoming you to Asia, you know I mean it's no need for that.
I made up for it over the rest of the week by being super, by being over nice and accommodating.
But it was good, it was a good trip. Good, yeah.

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Well, it was good. I had fun in Hong Kong. Hong Kong, yeah I did.
Although I did.
Every time somebody asked me what I was there for, I had to resist the urge to say, I'm here to fight in the Cumetay.
Like in Bloodsport.
Just because basically all my references are fucking 80s or early to mid 90s, basically these days, you know, just the age I am.

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I know I had a good time. I had some nice foods. It's funny actually we were just talking about food before we start to record.
And you mentioned that you're trying a period of time of gluten and like we ate really locally every night.
And like quite a lot to eat on some occasions and I didn't feel like bloated once.
I felt full. Like my appetite was appeased but I didn't feel that sort of bloated way.

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You know what I mean? That you sometimes get on a perhaps should we say perhaps a more Western diet.
So yeah it was nice. I tried in Thailand. I got to try a B Varva for the first time.
Oh wow okay. Yeah how was that?
It was okay. A texture not the similar to sweet corn.

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I thought it might taste of honey but it doesn't.
No. It was okay. I'm glad I tried it. I don't know if I could go through it again.
I tried C snail by accident but I thought it was beef and I just buried right in my chopsticks.
And when I was sort of chewing it thinking when the part of the cow this is somebody told me it was C snail.
It was okay. It didn't taste fishy. It didn't taste more like a red meat than a fish.

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But again you know it's all part of the journey. Trying these new and disgusting things.
And did you go back for another piece once you knew what it was?
No. Oh okay. So it was nice but not that nice once you knew what it was.
Okay it was fine. I guess I think if I just never know what it was I'd probably be alright.
But you know you have that sort of north Atlantic kind of traditionous which even though I've lived abroad for 10 years still very much it works.

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My psyche just wouldn't let me sort of say well you know everyone else is eating it. It must be fine.
Just kept telling me you're eating C snail you're fucking man cake on.
But you know it was nice. We went to a nice restaurant called Yard Bird and say the south of these stations eat pretty much.
Every part of a chicken and the thyroid had sold out before we sat down.
So I had the gizzard which I wasn't too upset about because no doubt that would have been put in front of me.

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And no doubt I would have had to have tried it because I would have been because my self-esteem it's so low that I care which
rangers think about me and I couldn't bear the fact that somebody might think fucking typical British Scottish guy what you can try anything you.
It's driven every choice I've made pretty much my whole life usually to my detriment.

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No it's not wrong with that. I mean yes we're all about trying new things but yeah I think I would draw the line and stuff like that.
I don't know what it is.
Last year I was speaking to a Dutch guy we're out for dinner and he was saying how he eats everything and regaling stuff that he's had like bulls testicle and monkey brains and you know C snail's and all this stuff.

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And then he turned to me and he went have you ever had a haggis?
Oh yeah.
And I went yeah and he screwed up his face and oh really did you know what's in it and I was like eh yeah it's fine.
But yeah he was kind of horrified by this and I was like wait you just tell me you eat in monkey brains and you're saying.
Better than bulls balls.
Yeah exactly. So I don't know why that's deemed to be kind of unacceptable but nevermind who knows.

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I was I did get in about a conversation about haggis with my colleague there who's a very adventurous eater himself and he said oh I've never tried haggis.
Because he's never been at Scotland. He's American. He was born in the Philippines but raised in America. So he took all the intents and purposes he's American.
But he said he's a very Asian diet which means that he'll try anything.

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And he said oh I've never had the chance to try haggis because he's never been at Scotland.
And I said well I said I feel like I might be able to get one next time I'm at home that I can keep in the freezer.
I'll bring it back from Scotland and I'll keep it in the freezer and when you come to Dubai you can taste it.
And he was very pleased at the prospect of that. I also told him I would pick up some square sausage because he's intrigued by square sausage as well.

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I told him it gives you heartburn but I said I guess I'm not gonna get heartburned.
Did you feel it?
Well I think it's because every time we mention square sausage in the podcast we always one of us always remarks how it gives you heartburn.
Because if I had a few square sausage related stories on the news, it's definitely over the years.
We certainly have and yes it does give me heartburn. I don't have an edit for many many years but I imagine it probably still does.

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Give me heartburn.
Wonderful. Well that's your little culinary adventure around the world. Fantastic.
Well speaking of news shall we have a look at what's been happening in Scotland over the last couple of weeks whilst you've been away in Hong Kong?
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Hello this is the Outdoor Heavilys Broadcasting Corporation and here is what's been going on in the new.

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Okay Greg, what have you seen in the news over the last couple of weeks you'd like to share with me and our lovely listeners?
Well before I get on to my first story, so long term listeners will remember that you and I had a lot of fun with a story about a convicted American sex offender called...
Well his real name wasn't Michael Rossi, he's been with something else but I know he was calling himself something else but Michael Rossi was his real name and he was in salt and prison and he was being kept a week after...

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After the news broke that it was being deported to America to face trial for his crimes all the other prisoners were singing at night leaving on a jet plane by John Denver just to roast them.
And so because we've enjoyed the plight of that sex offender I thought our listeners might enjoy some bad luck befalling another sex offender this one is Scottish, his name's James Clacker.

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I won't go into details about his crimes because they're pretty unpleasant but he basically attempted to fake his own death and a fleed to Spain.
And this Scottish son has got a wonderful video of him being caught up with by the Spanish police.
Right? But the funny thing about it is when the police catch up with him he's hanging upside down on a beach jump in Spain.

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He was working out on a Spanish beach and they say "Sem" and they get to it. He was described as hanging upside down on jump equipment on a beach before being hauled back to Scotland.
Now that sentence by itself is hilarious right? But the fact that there is video evidence supporting it he's just mending his own business hanging upside down thanks that he's got away with his horrendous crimes.

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Spanish police are waiting. They arrest the police. They get the album when he's fucking hanging upside down.
Perfect moment to get him. Absolutely perfect. Anyway so but from one horrible disgusting fucking sex case criminal to another criminal who's crimes do not include sexual offenses so be glad to know.

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This comes from the daily record. This is first story on the 6th of September. The headline is "Dinondash Scammer" outed as 1 million and in deck game show winner.
So the man accused of a double "Dinondash Scam" can be revealed as a former millionaire who scooped a jackpot on an "Dinondash" game show.
Nathan Hageman Hageman I think, I'm not sure, H-H-H-G-E-M-A-N. 1 million on the comedy duo's ITV show "Red and Black" in 2011.

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But he squandered his fortune on cars, holidays, gadgets and watches. He's from Reading. He now has 16 convictions for 45-45 offenses.
And last year he was sentenced to 12 weeks in prison after he stole from a nurse when she was working in hospital. He swept her handbag from her locker and then used her car keys to steal her vehicle.
And after being released from prison in England he headed north to Scotland. It's understood that he settled in Bathgate in West Lothian before flitting fruatic on Marneck.

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And he's now at the center of a double "Dinondash Scam" after a man and woman, a man and woman were outed on social media, is having fled different restaurants in the airshort time without paying.
On Wednesday last week, the man and woman in question ran up near the £50 at Beijing Banquet and the town's clean drive and left without paying.
The following day, the same pair pulled the same scam again, racking up a £125 bill at the 43 Mexican Tex-Mex and steakhouse in the East Airshort Towns Tichfield Street.

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Pictures of the pair taken from CCTV cameras in the restaurants in question were posted on social media and the police were contacted over the ruse.
A source told the day the record that the guy in the CCTV is Nathan Hagueman or Hageman, who have you say it?
He's gone from millionaire to Dinin Dash Scammer. It doesn't get much more. I think it does if you go, if you remember the story that we spoke about just a minute ago.

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He's smart enough to win a game show, but dumb enough to get caught in camera. He's only been living in Comarnic for about a week.
He's moved through from Bathgate. Police Scotland confirmed that officers are now investigating both incidents which took place on the 27th and 28th of August.
Police Scotland quote there. Yeah, so that's Nathan Hagueman, bit of a shit house. I think it's fair to say.

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There's a picture of him on the TV show with Anne and Dick, who probably deserve a bit of a conversation as well because they have to be famous on usual people.
I mean, Anne McParton has a, he has to be one of the weirdest fucking guys on the TV.
But then he's quite clean cut. He's obviously looks very blown away by the fact that he's just won a million quid.

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Well, his mug shot, he looks a bit like shit Jesus. He's mug shot, it's a bit honest. These eyes don't follow you about whatever you go from the picture, but maybe he would.
There's been a real spate or it just seems to be a thing that's in the papers all the time now, Dine and Dash.
I mean, it's always been you, you've worked in restaurants for a lot of your life. I mean, is it a regular thing that people walk out without paying?

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It seems to be there's a story in the newspaper just about every week of couples dining and dashing.
When I was on the tools, so to speak, working in the restaurants, it did happen once or twice, not that often.
I remember we had a couple in the beach and Aberdeen, who should never have been served in the first place.
They came in on like a, sort of mid-after, no, no, the Friday. And they attempted to leave without paying and were restrained.

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Oh, by a couple of the waiters where the manager went to call the police and the guy just started throwing money onto the table when the manager went to call the police.
And they, this should be like, he didn't complain and try to justify, I'm not paying because this was shit or anything like that.
We just, we're just trying to run away. I mean, they were, they were, and we had to sort of stop them. I think, I have ear-olds.

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Mutual friends, ex-wife, Julia, I think was the manager who went to call the police. The woman attempted to assault the general manager who was another lady called Fiona.
Wow. So, yeah, it was, yeah, that's by the worst one that I can remember.
When I ran a restaurant in Glasgow, Fort, which is next to Easter House, we did have one or two people trying to leave without paying.

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and when we stopped them, they just paid, they just tracked, just dancing that arm, you know what I mean?
Because the thing was, there's a lot of security guards. It's a shop in center, let's go for it.
The Conoutdoor Shop and Center. So it was all security. In your bound, had the radio for security as well.
So yeah, they never gave us any bother. Although somebody did get stabbed at the bar in the restaurant and then an unrelated incident...
Yeah. It wasn't a dining dutch. No, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't.

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But yeah, no, I don't, I think I don't know what would be, I don't know, they could just...
If the newspapers are to be believed that just seems like the UK or at least Scotland in England,
it's just fucking lost. Everyone's lost, they're fucking collective minds.
And this is a sort of behaviour you get now. Yeah, because it's bizarre.
Constantly seeing stuff like that and then shop lifters and stuff, it's just, it's absolutely crazy.

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But yeah, it just seems to be a total epidemic of these dining dash. So this hero, this Jesus character,
has him, so won a lot of money on and deck and then now he's resorting to running off the line.
Spunked a lot, I mean, on gadgets. What kind of gadgets do you think he's been buying for that money?
I mean, don't know. I mean, I guess I'm going to quid.

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Maybe isn't what it was like 20 years ago, right?
No, of course not. I know, but it's still an awful lot of money. I think if I had a million quid,
just given to me now, tax-freecy, I could probably like set myself up for the rest of my life, I think,
with a million quid. Yeah, I mean, I think that it could, yeah, if you were sensible,

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it could go far, but obviously this gentleman wasn't sensible and spending money on cars and
gadgets and stuff. You know, but probably would. Gadgets could cover anything from, you know,
overhead projectors and stuff to. A rumba. Yeah, stuff, yeah, like that. And probably the latest,
you know, smartphones and tablets and all the stuff, VR headsets, all the stuff that you don't need,

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but you just think, "Oh, I want that, so I'll buy that." And the money's like, "Oh, but, well,
is this antindex fault, do you think?" I mean, should we get on to antindex and talk about that?
I mean, I just, the thing I find strange about antindex, because obviously I'm of an age, I don't know,
I don't know if this is obvious, if you listen to the podcast, I don't know if it's obvious,

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where antindex have been on the TV since the early 90s on Baker Grove, right, when they put
PJ and Duncan. And then they were, they were pop stars as PJ and Duncan before they'd go into
their actual names and being pop stars for a bit longer, for most of the career that they've been
television presenters. But the thing is, the dynamic is still quite juvenile, right, you know what, I mean,

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it's not like their dynamic hasn't matured with them, they've my daughter and I, for the first time
ever in my life, and hers. We did a full series of "I Miss Liberty" get me out of here,
it was the whole last series, and we both really enjoyed it, but their links, I was just fucking
willing them to be finished, because the jokes are fucking rubbish. I mean, they're like, they're

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fucking rubbish. That's not funny. Yeah, but they have to be like, fucking knocks on the head to
find them funny. Yeah, but then it probably appeals to the type of people that are watching "I
Miss Liberty" get out of here. No offense to you and your daughter, but it is a show that does appeal to
probably the lowest comment. The lowest comment. The lowest comment. So it's hardly surprising that their

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jokes are juvenile and are meant for that. I was interested. Apparently, is it STV player
have uploaded every episode of Biker Grove. They've got the right to do it somehow, yeah, so if you
go on STV player, you will find every episode of Biker Grove, and I was reading a thread, I think it
was unread it, if people that were rewatching it. I'm not going to rewatch it, but I was just

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interested. And people were saying it was interesting, because like PJ and Duncan weren't actually that
friendly. It'd biker Grove apparently. They'd never really hang out that much, but then somehow they
got together very much towards the end and then launched their pop career and stuff. But yeah,
I was like, oh wow, I always thought it was PJ and Duncan were thickest thieves, but obviously not.

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Well, I seem to remember a scene when PJ was coming to terms with the fact that I can't
see after getting sprayed in the eyes with a paintball or shot in the eye with a paintball gun or
something like that. I remember a scene where he's in the youth club and Duncan can't quite deal with

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them. And PJ's like, like, tripping over chairs and fucking walking into things and stuff and saying,
"Dunkan man, Duncan, where are you man?" Duncan just, whether he, I don't know if the if the
intention was, you know, Duncan's racked with guilt because his friend, I kind of really remember.
I do remember PJ getting shot in the eyes, but I highlight of my childhood to be honest.

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But yeah, but I don't, I mean, if I'm being honest, I don't remember a great detail,
in great detail, biker Grove apart from maybe the first series with Spuggie. And that was kind of
posh girl who joins the youth club and ends up going out with the fucking, like sort of bad kid who

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wears a leather jacket and then he's here, thing me up and stuff, sort of, you know, he's...
Do you have a ponytail as well? Like a leather jacket? No.
A ponytail or was that someone? That was later on. I think I think he was supposed to be,
I don't know if it's supposed to be Spuggie's brother or something, but yeah, maybe not. But he had
the, you knew he was a bad boy because he wore like jeans, dark martens, so the other jacket,

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and he had these hair sort of quifed up and he kind of walked with his hands and his pockets.
And then in hindsight, I'm not sure why he was at the youth club, it's a bit honest.
NONT.
I think Jeff was the, he was the one who watched when he was wearing that.
No, he wasn't. Jeff was a legend. Do you never touch those kids?
It's funny you say that because something that stuck with me since my childhood and I still remember

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vividly, I can remember exactly where I was when I saw it and it's still horrific and it gives
me a shiver. It was an episode of "Casualty" and it was a guy that was making screwdrivers.
Right.
And he was basically taking the metal part, putting in a machine, the machine would close,
shoot out the plastic to form the handle and then open, you would take it out.
And he was working overtime, he was tired and he was just doing this monotonous task.

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Yeah.
And then he forgot to put the metal bit in one part and it showed and it shot like the hot liquid
into his eyes and horrific still haunts me.
But yet the scene where PJ gets shot in the face with a paintball, it's fucking hilarious.
It's not.
Just do it with hilarious. Same thing basically, but brilliant.

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Anyway, so this, Dine and Dash Robin bastard and it's all ant and dex fault.
Oh, ant and dex fault for giving me the money in the first place.
We never heard of him otherwise.
Anyway, that's my first story. This week apologies to any ant and dex fans who might be listening,
you know. But all entitled to opinions. You like them, we don't.

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Anyway, moving on quickly, which is our first story of this week.
My first story comes from the Scottish sun this week Greg and it is a tale of revenge.
Never piss off a woman, that's what I would say on this.
So yeah, from the Scottish sun this week, a holiday makers dream trip to Thailand
turned into a nightmare when his spiteful former partner cancelled his passport.

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The vacation of a lifetime ended before it began when William Bar, that's a good Scottish name,
was detained at the airport as soon as he arrived in the holiday hotspot.
His ex partner Rosie Wood had been pissed off that he was jetting off to the sun and went online
to void his travel document. So she did this whilst he was in the air.

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So, Route 31 of Inverquithing 5 admitted on the 16th of October last year for the purpose of
causing annoyance, inconvenience and needless anxiety to William at Dunford and Lin-Shereff Court.
The court heard that she falsely reported his passport as lost or stolen via the online
application system. This caused him to be detained by the immigration services in Thailand

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and deported back to the UK as one place he don't want to be detained I would say.
Yes, Deputy Fiscal Matthew Nap said Mr Bar had gone to the country for a two week holiday,
but on arriving at the airport there he was told that his passport had been marked stolen.
He denied this was the case but was deported back to the UK. On his return he contacted the police

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asking them to investigate the matter. These inquiries uncovered that Wood's broadband
account had been used to void the passport online and that she was the victim's former partner.
She attended Dunford and Police Station for interview and confessed what she had done to the officers.
She said it was because he'd left our kids and she was pissed off. She told police she realized

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that had been silly but once she'd done it there was nothing she could do to reverse it.
Mr Bar told the police that on arriving at the airport he went to the security great
and it all went crazy from there. He said that he thought he was about £2,500 out of pocket
through the loss of the holiday. Defensilist Rhe Shona Westwood said that her client was deeply regretful

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and very ashamed of her actions. She added she's not in the best financial position.
Sheriff Marco Hanlon told Wood this is a serious matter with your ex partner losing his entire
holiday. No, these losses two and a half thousand pounds holiday the judge decided to find the woman
£500. That is a stinger. That means that she's the best.

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And yes, so do not piss off. First of all obviously this just shows that your passport
you can easily just go online and cancel it if you have all the information I guess.
So that's a very addictive thing to do. Scary that somebody could do that.
I mean I suppose at least it wasn't out the country when she did it.

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Right, yeah it was and he was he hadn't left the country right it was stopped at.
No, he was left the country. It's left the country.
It's left the country. It's left the Thailand. Yeah, of course.
Because they don't yeah they don't check your passport leaving a UK anymore.
No, so she must have cancelled it. Yeah, I don't know if she cancelled it prior or when she
done it if it was when he was in the air or who knows but yeah she cancelled his passport and

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yeah that was a bit of a shitter for the poor lot arriving in Bangkok being told his passport
since it was on a stolen passport. That's a that's gotta be horrifying.
That to happen to you. Yeah, I mean that's you know like I've had some moments that
immigration and countries where you know I think it's just been the person on the desk

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it's just because they've never seen that cheerful do they? They do the only ones that have
the only ones who have met who are cheerful actually the ones in Thailand that's super
quite friendly and the ones in Hong Kong but everywhere else should go especially America.
They are humor they are fucking miserable bastards and the thought of so I get and taken
at one side when you arrive it's almost as bad as being taken at one side when you're trying to leave.

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You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah because you're just wanting to get home but yeah that'd be just
horrific arriving there thinking you're we're looking forward to it for ages on the flight
and then get there thinking right two weeks I'm gonna get some lady boy actions
the ping pong show get some drugs and then bang before you can even set foot on Thai soil you are

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yeah yeah putting a lot of holding room and then shipped off back to the Scotland.
I don't think you would have made a healthy contribution to the Thai lifestyle and economy
anyway to be quite honest no I don't think so. No. I think probably Thai I probably have a
wucky a wucky miss. You think they're better off without them? Do you think that's why the judge

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only find our 500 pounds because the Thai people had said yeah no we didn't want them there anyway.
Yeah the Thai people we had the words and said that we get enough of these fucking Scottish sex
tourists coming over and making a nuisance of themselves just let's send them back.
So there you go folks be careful what you do your passport details and don't give them to anyone

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and especially an ex that you might have pissed off not a good idea. I was aimed for an amicable
separation if you can. Yes. Let's see advice of the culture slowly. Yeah that's good advice I think.
Yeah advice. Anything. What else have you seen this week? So this is a nicer story.
This comes from the day the record on the 7th of September which was yesterday on the day of

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the corner and the head then meets great scots shoppers amused a iconic back to the future delorean
rose at a time. Yeah. He's like what they did there. I did yeah. Yeah it's good yeah big back to the
future fan. So great scots shoppers felt as though they'd taken a step back in time after spotting
Hollywood history in the delorean from back to the future rolling through their streets.

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Vocals in Alnes were left stunned as the stainless steel star fitted with gowwing doors
from the 1985 blockbuster and its sequels drove through their high street yesterday. The time travel
trilogy followed Martin McFly played by Michael J Fox and Doc Brown portrayed by Christopher Lloyd
as they traveled through time in a souped up delorean all while trying to get home without

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wrecking the space time continuum. Not sure that's exactly an occurrence in ops and sport.
The car's arrival in Russia wasn't the result of a mishap on the flux capacitor though but rather
brought to celebrate the opening of a brand new shop dedicated to gaming comics and action figures
TT Retro following the grand opening the owner Thomas Forbes wrote first day done a massive thank you

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to everyone who popped in and supported the new shop and to all who wished his good luck on the new
venture. We have had loads of great feedback and we're really happy with today's outcome. A massive
thank you as well to Scran Alnes for the cracking suffers and Ian who came along with the famous delorean
just an amazing thing to see really topped off the day for me. As Doc Brown famously said,

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"Rones, we're we're going we don't need roads. However, for Alnes all roads lead to TT Retro this weekend
as hundreds gathered at the shop to snap a picture with the iconic car driven straight out of the
silver screen. Residents could be seen taken a peek at the car's flux capacitor and whipping out
their phones fast out in the delorean hitting 88 miles per hour in order to get a pick of the movie

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motor. Social media users were also left bewildered by the car's appearance in the town and took to
the comments of the post published by Lucina Highlands. Paul Patience script, whether it does feel like
you've gone back in time when you drive through Alnes, another ribbed jeez, imagine going back to the
future and landing in Alnes. Enjoying Murphy said, "I'll take that taxi. I will definitely arrive on time."

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That was a bit wafty that last one. Ian Robert added, "If I had one of those, I'd probably
only drive it from time to time." Thank you for your fucking contribution there Ian Robert.
And Vaughn a Horluck row, "Can it take me to a time where I could afford a house in the car for
£3000. Preferably a three-bed bungalow with two reception rooms, a conservatory, a tidy garden,

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a shed slash garage, and a greenhouse maybe a swimming pool." So yeah, there's always,
I'll be some fucking morning content, I think. But it's just a nice post about, you know, I'm
not sure it's not often that the small town in Alnes has something like that going on, you know,
I've got to find some misery in it somewhere. But yeah, that'd be quite cool. I don't know,
I'm never up in Russia. It's not a place I've spent a great day of the time,

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no, if any time in fact. But we wish TT Rachel all the best, it sounds like it's quite a cool shop,
up her street with the action figure stuff, but not of its modern action figure, but if it's
got any vintage stuff in there, hopefully you look online. Yeah, definitely, yeah, it sounds like
a cracking little place. And it's always nice, you have something like that with a,

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something that garners attention, and yeah, usually something like the back to the future car
is the one that kind of does it, or, you know, the the back mobile or something, it's always a,
I do think what was your favourite kind of car from the...
Probably kit from Nightrider when I was younger. Yeah, I did, I did like the Trans Am from Smoky

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and Abanda as well though, like that a lot. So it's probably between those, there's probably two,
except really I used to have Smoky and Abanda too on video, right, with Tape Tofu the Telet,
and it's the one when there's the big sort of battle at the end between Slowman and all these truck
driving pals, and all the different, all the different police forces from, you know, the Canadian

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police are layer and Jackie Gleason plays a few different characters and... It's so stupid to think
about it now, but for some reason all these trucks had like things in their, in their wagons that could
like mash these cars or like fire them through the air or whatever, pretty ridiculous, but I'll
fucking love that when I was a kid. I absolutely love to start last sort of 20 minutes Smoky and Abanda too.

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Fantasy, which is your favourite? Oh, it's got to be the 18 van, well that I do. Yeah, the 18 van, I mean kit.
Yes, definitely from Nightrider. I think they're doing a new reboot, a new later, I read that they're
doing, so yeah, that'll be interesting, but yeah, I loved kits, but yeah, I think the 18 van probably.
It's not like a Nightrider 18 combined universe type reboot or something, is it? Is Nightrider combined

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with something else? Okay, it might not be the 18, but another show that was on at the same time.
I know it's like Street Hawk, that would make sense. Yeah, it's not Street Hawk. Yeah, that would make
perfect sense. I wonder, I'll tell you what I can see. But yeah, I loved the 18 van. I was, I mean,
I'm a simple love, I've always loved them. If I had a car from any kind of 80s thing, I'd take the

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police car from the police brothers. I fucking love those style of police cars. They're so fucking cool.
Yeah, yeah, they are. Yeah, I remember exactly what Dan Acroid's character says when John
Billishy's given me a hard time for picking them up on a police car from prison, but he starts
listening to all the cars attributes, like how fast it'll go, how solid it is, not like anything.

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I, on the subject of the 18, I came across a, so Mr. T's daughter is a stand-up comedian.
Have we seen this? We've seen her talking about WrestleMania. No, like so. So she's got a little
routine that she does about being taken. She talks about how the school she went to at the time,
going up in the 80s, nobody believed that her dad was Mr. T and stuff. And she said that she

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remembers getting taken to WrestleMania. Guess it'd be WrestleMania two, I think, isn't it?
Then when they were the Hulk Hogan and Mr. T up against Wondruery Piper and Paul,
or, I don't know, who's the one? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Paul. Yeah. And apparently, like,
her younger sister was worried about if her dad was going to be okay and Mr. T explained,

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look, you know, be alright, it's all scripted and, you know, everyone's very careful. No one's really,
no one's really being hurt, it just looks like we're being hurt and stuff. So as soon as the match starts,
like, Roddy Piper picks Mr. T up and fucking slam some in the mat and it accidentally, Mr. T got
cracked ribs. And so after the, after the fight, he had to go to, he had to go to the hospital and

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she said, "Hurry and her sister were in a hotel room with Hulk Hogan who's doing line after line
of ching." Right? No, hotel room. And Mr. T comes back with these ribs all strapped up and Hulk Hogan's
like, "That's fucking, that's out of order, but Roddy Piper did to you, that's out of order, I'm
going to fuck him up, that's out of order." And Mr. T's like, you know, just an accident or whatever.

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And then Piper comes to the door to apologize because he's always heard that he's, you know,
that he's accidentally cracked Mr. T's ribs and Hulk Hogan goes for him and starts throwing him
about no hotel room because he's all high on cocaine. And, and Mr. T's trying to sort of separate
them and stuff. And she said, "She said, you know, when I was back at school in Monday and we're doing

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the, what did we do at the weekend?" I'm just like, "Not a damn fucking thing." She obviously tells
it a lot better. I find that again, I'll send you it. She's just like, "I'm going to tell you a story
about, you know, about WrestleMania, don't tell anybody." So, she's on stage. She was funny.
Oh, very good. Oh, lovely. Well, I'm glad to hear. I hope the shop is a wonderful success. And

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that's brilliant that they got a good bit of press coverage as well with the Delorean. And coverage
on the culture swallow as well. It's out there, which is arguably the best coverage there is.
Yeah. Okay. And that was my last story this week. What have you got next?
My second and last story this week, Reg, is from Glasgow Live. And the headline is,
"Scotsman visits supermarket in Peru and discovers unusual link to home." So,

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a Scottish man who jeted off to Peru has shared his astonishment after discovering a fizzy drink
that brought back memories from home. Craig Ferguson, not that one, who chronicles his global
adventures on social media, disclosed that the beverage is exclusively available in just one city
within the South American nation, which he says may be purely to spite everyone else.

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Posting on TikTok. That's a good Scottish thing, isn't it? Spite.
Posting on TikTok as part of his Scotland Around the World Series,
Craig kicked off by detailing his mission to uncover the special drink that links Peru to Scotland.
And it wasn't long before he managed to get a hold of a bottle as he expressed his joy
at finding cola, escucia, among the numerous other drinks for sale. Despite the name literally

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translating as Scottish cola, this is actually a Peruvian drink. Craig explained.
It's made solely in Peru and particularly in Yura. He proceeded to unveil a couple of reasons
behind its peculiar origins. Yura in Peru is a distinct area with independent values.
Craig continued. And despite no mainstream push for independence at the moment, they often joke

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about things like Yura is not Peru. Craig's clip cut to footage of a march in Scotland,
in which people were demonstrating in favour of their wish for independence from United Kingdom.
It reminds me of other places in the world, he quit. He went on to say, as you may know,
"Inca cola is the most popular soft drink in Peru." However, cola in glazya is also available

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in other places in Peru. Leading some to believe that Yura's cola is scucia is made out of spiked.
Because cola in glazya translates to English cola. Perhaps prompting a Scottish version to be
created is some kind of rival. Whether it's true or not, I have no idea Craig admitted in conclusion,

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but that's what I've been told and I like it, so I'm going to run with it. But what does it actually
taste like? Yeah, it's quite nice. Bonus points for it being Scottish, he revealed.
I'm responding to the video one TikTok or user who has sampled the beverage comment, it tastes a bit
like bars red cola. I remember seeing it in a corner shop and I never bought something so fast

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in my life. Another person joked, "How very Scottish doing anything to spiked the English?"
A third agreed painting. To be fair, calling it Scottish cola is just to spiked English cola,
is a pretty Scottish thing to do. A fourth tick talk I commented. If I remember correctly,

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was it a Scottish man that helped Peru get independence from Spain? And indeed it was,
according to his story at UK, Thomas Cochran, who was born in Anzfield, South Lanarkshire in 1775,
relocated South America where he assumed command of the Chilean navy and guided them towards
independence from Spain. He also commented to the Chilean feet to help secure independence for Peru

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as well. So there you go, that's another thing we've done for the world great.
Yeah, another thing. I know. Add it to the huge list. So yeah, cola is kosher, if you're ever in
that area of Peru, in Yura, then you can sample the delights but don't you dare, don't you dare
purchase a bottle of cola in Clasia. I suppose it's a wee bit like Catalonia, right, in Spain,

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and a kind of bask French, you know, the kind of bask separatists who I think would they rather be
part of Spain than France? Is that what they're thinking? I can't remember. And obviously,
the Catalonia is essentially Barcelona, right? And yeah, I like Scotland and Wales.
And half an ordinary island. Yeah, exactly. So it's nice little to have a little thing in Peru that

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reminds us of Scotland and our battle. But yeah, that's great. Just naming something just to spite.
Yeah, that's a very Scottish thing to do, isn't it?
It certainly is. And I've got a lot of time for it. Yeah, me too.
It's great. Wonderful. Right. Well, before we... Well, yeah, but sorry, before I'm going on it,

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yeah, anything else this week, Rick? No, no, no, no, it's all the news I've got. Wonderful.
Right. Well, before we go into what we're going to be talking about today and a lot more spiked,
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It's the man who comes up with tart and special. That's who I'm rooting for. Support your local
view and a younger's tart and special. Okay, Rick. So it was your choice of what we're going to be
talking about on the culture of suhalli today. So why do you tell us what we've been watching this week?
So last week or the last episode, I should say, we... For the first time in a while, we did a

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play for today. We did the silly season and I so enjoyed doing it. Like normally we didn't
let pick another play for today so soon after doing one. But I did because it's one that we haven't
done. I think we've... This will be the last Peter McDougall play for today that we haven't
covered. So I don't think you wrote any other ones. Ironically, this is his first one from 1972

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and it's just your luck directed by Four Weddings and a Funeral Director Mike Newell, which obviously
in an early outing. Starring like a vertable smorgasbord of Scottish talent David Heyman,
Thursday Mackey, Jerry Sleven, Ivy McCallum, Mary Riggins, even Brian Petifer. It's a...

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Kits a few minutes on there and it tells the story of 17-year-old Alison who after falling pregnant to
23-year-old Alec after a one night stand, a wedding has to be hastily arranged. Unfortunately,
Alison comes from a stonch church of Scotland family, otherwise known as Protestants. And Alec comes from

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a stonch Catholic, Roman Catholic family and the play tells how both families can come to terms with
their children being shackled together. So it's available on YouTube if you're not watched
already and you want to watch it. Before you hear us talking about it now would be the time to stop.

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So only an hour won't take too long to get through it. And had you come across this one before?
It was my first time watching. Obviously I was aware of it and I knew it was out. In fact, I already
downloaded it from YouTube and had it on my laptop ready because I knew we were going to pick it
at some point. Yeah. Soon because we've done all the arming doogles. Incidentally, I was checking.

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This is our seventh Pyramic doogle penned item that we've covered in the pod. So we did all four
play for todays now. Just your luck. Just a boys game elephant graveyard and just under Saturday.
We've also done a sense of freedom shoot for the sun and down among the big boys. I think kind of
the last one really we need to do is down with the buffalo go, which is a play on one.

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Yes. Habitatel. But it's very difficult to find. But I will find it. I will find it. So first
time watching but I was aware of what it was. But for some reason I just never got round to it. And
of course I loved it. It's just it's wonderful. It's it's just it's so funny. Like in parts I was just
in hysterics. It's raw and it doesn't hold back in some parts and it's just just wonderfully like

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tight snapshot of like early 70s Glasgow. And it ticks all the Pyramic take a box. It's like
sectarianism, working class culture, gallows humor, little bit of violence. It's yeah it's wonderful.
And I mean some dop it basically is you know in Glasgow in the 70s a prodigirl dumps our football

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or boyfriend and gets knocked up by the first man she sees who happens to be a Catholic sailor.
So you're getting ahead of the archetypal Scottish moment award for it on?
I mean it's it's even out sensitive subject matter and you know from 1972 it was really sensitive
and a really controversial and I did read that there was a lot of complaints to the BBC when

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this aired. Yeah I mean ironically Pyramic dogo's first submission to the BBC was just another
Saturday which they initially turned down because they were worried about how it would land
particularly in Scotland. So this this was the second submission and obviously it deals with a lot
of the same kind of broad themes. I think just another Saturday can it intellectualises the divide

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between Catholics and Protestants and perhaps a more clever way I think than this one but you know
the thing about just your luck is like a sometimes wonder and I've watched it a few times before.
So I've seen it a few times over the years and I've sometimes wondered is it supposed to be
almost a you know is he going for gritty realism or is he taking something that was definitely a

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very sensitive issue in Scotland the 1970s and sort of almost sort of ballooning elements of it
because a lot of it you know the the character of Isabel played by Irene McCallum she's a she's
almost like a sort of caricature of that type of woman and now Irene McCallum is a fantastic

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actress and we've seen her and we've had done a lot of different things you know like the last
thing we had Irene was we did the first series of still game and she was the one with the diddies and
bubbra bubbra yeah you know so she's you know that she obviously an actor with like a great range
who knows who's got a real ear for sort of the kind of Scottish vernacular particularly working

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class Scottish vernacular which she dealt with she kind of shows the great effect in just on a
Saturday but she's sort of like a more muted version of Isabel the mum and just another Saturday I
think and I'm like and maybe a more sensitive kind of portrayal than this one but you know there's
so many what's what I'm looking for there's so many sort of stereotypes in this there's the

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pious Catholic mum played by Irene McCallum there's the sort of shiftless sort of workshop lazy
dad yeah played by Joe Joseph you know and then you've got Mary Reggins who plays Alison's mum and
they can approach the Protestant side of the divide and so she's kind of a bit of a version of the
mother character she played and the silly season to some extent as well like you know prone to a bit of

(45:59):
unexpected emotion and then Colin played by Jerry Sleven who's sort of like a sort of stereotypical
kind of staunch church of Scotland ghosties work feensies pigeons will give his wife a wee slap
just to keep sort of camber down where's his ranger scarf range yeah where's his yeah he comes up the
close stairs sort of singing come as dead in a good mood and but you know he's but he can't you

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know he can't really shastise his oldest daughter because she in his mind she's dad these little girl
you know and then I never knew my mother's father because he had multiple sclerosis and was
fucked all my life you know as Frankie Boyle would put it you know what I mean he was both a

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poor soul and no right and he was fucked so I never knew what he was like before that but my mother
described why I do know about him apparently he wasn't fucking nicest the guys to my granny but
my mother said that he was always very doating over her than my auntie you know what I mean so maybe
maybe calling us is typical of men of that generation at that time I don't know because before I was born

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but it just seems a lot like that you know and there's that we exchange the brine petifers in
with the two boys in the kitchen the bedroom rather when they're talking about Protestants voting
Tory and Catholics voting Labour you know what I mean but I feel that I feel that Peter McDougall was
he's you know I think in his mind he's he wants this is something that probably is would be

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particularly Scottish and pretty much not really realized by anybody south of the border or maybe
even it's a west of Scotland thing and not really considered by people in other parts of Scotland either
but it feels that he felt that it was an important thing to portray on the screen just to show how
different but the same really these families are they're all yeah all the characters are two

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are they're all characters are all two sides of the same coin really you know no I think you're right
I do think because it's a very serious subject matter and it's handled well but you're right it is
handled in a kind of send up way it is over the top and I wonder if that was how it kind of got
commissioned really when you say it is but it's not you know because it's not gritty it's such there are

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no there is a lot of humor in this and yeah it is kind of strange humor in terms of the the things
that are being said you know in terms of that there are little lines hidden there and that
made it begins comes out with a couple of belters as does iley McCallum as well you know we'll come back
to them later but there's there's a couple a great like I do think that one of the things that

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stood out for me is like unlike his other place here the central characters to an extent are a
female in terms of you know Alison's really the the kind of main character you would say but
Isaac and Betsy they really are the more of a central character than Jo and Colin I would say and
you know David Hamon is Alec he's hardly in it really so I think any lines really I mean he's

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he spends a whole lot of her back pished yeah so I or back out to see going at the dancing
yeah yeah there's no you would say this is very female driven which is is
lends a different slant because the rest of me do goes work is all about males and from the male
perspective and females hardly appear if at all and you know it has his other works really that we've

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covered I mean it does have strong female characters and these other stuff I mean like in
in elephant's graveyard it's a two-hander yeah you know um but with John Mitchell when um
Billy Conley but you know the iley McCallum it's a really strong character in just another
Saturday is the mum but you're right they're she's the only one you know apart apart from that you

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see the daughters and stuff but they don't even have any lines or anything and then I think Barbara
Dixon plays the Barbara Dixon plays Billy Conley's wife and down among the big boys yes yeah and but
that's a well you could maybe say dancers wife to some extent in just a boys game but she's not
in it very much she's only it maybe she'd be maybe ten fifteen minutes if that even clatty Bella clatty

(50:11):
Bella does it say anything just let's just let's just let's translate dancer Rattler and a squeaky
spedger but yeah I do think it is a bit of a different perspective for a Peter McDougall and I get
yeah he does write strong female characters but this is very kind of female driven in this yeah
I think it would be love because it's not just it's not just the mums and Alice and there's also the

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anties yeah as well in the scene when Alice is opening her wedding presents and you do get the impression
that the men are just going along you know whatever they're the wife say effectively yeah they're
going to do it and um even the you know the grandfather who is the you would think would be the the
voice of definitely something there well he's mute he just yeah places my thorgon and shits

(50:59):
himself and that's about it and eats his chips that gets fed to him so yeah it's very much kind of
female lead I did love this as well because it's very obviously could be due to budget but it really
does feel like a play and I know that sounds stupid because it's a play for today but because of
the minimum locations and they're all kind of set in the flat and stuff it really does give this like
claustrophobic sense and yeah it doesn't need you know any exterior I mean I think it's like two

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exterior scenes and that's you know Alice and Duncan in the beginning her meat and allikin the kind
of the the the slowest stare well the close and then of course the when they're in the wedding car
like coming up but and that's a great scene as well because when they come out the wedding car
and coming into the house I mean that that must just be locals from the community because they really

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do seem really real and it is like nearly yeah like the kids are feral and the the women are feral as
well you know and what and I kiss from the groom and yeah it really seems like they thought it was
an actual wedding and maybe that's where they were told it could be I don't know um for that exterior

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shot but it just seems so genuine like we've all been you know if you think back to the 80s when we
were kids I mean a wedding was like that in Scott the whole neighborhood would be out kids would be
waiting for the scramble and but all the mums and grannies and stuff would be out waiting to see the
bride a lot of see our dress stuff it was excitement when something like that happened I remember my

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granny two doors down you know how their door getting married and it was a huge thing um and I
remember getting like a pound in the scramble and going in pounds yeah and I'm going and buying a
couple of you know the mini bino and dandy comics yeah yeah yeah yeah very shocked who's

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uh who's ice which have to gouge it to manage to scrape up a pound my scrambling and I wasn't many
kids there it was fine it was happening and I was saying north field as well so it was fucking
impressive yeah I could I could I got chubbed there definitely I remember when my aunt he got married
and I was a page boy so I left my grand and grand this house in Colesseith with her in the bride car

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and uh that was the first time I'd ever seen a scramble and she just shut out like she threw a hand
for the coppers but there was kids waiting you know what I mean I remember because I remember
coming out and thinking just basically usually all these kids hanging about I don't know how they
I've been met my great auntie lived up just a few doors up the street so I don't know if I don't know
I mean I guess we're just spread that yeah and auntie jim is getting married and she'd be coming out

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at some point and all the kids were not just waiting there for the scramble but I mean it was a
surprise to me when jim just like threw a hand for a money to these kids on the street you know
I mean I've never ever seen it before I remember being quite perplexed by it and part of me wishing
that I was among the kids like wrestling for the coins I fucking loved it I felt like I was
irritable because there was always irritable they always had a scramble in each book so yeah yeah

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I felt brilliant I loved it you have your dungies and your tachety boots on no I didn't I can't
remember what I was wearing it was a very very long time ago but no I'm not not sure about that
um now so as you said the whole premise is that Allison gets pregnant so she's seeing Duncan
you get she must have been seen him for a while because he's met her parents he you know mom says

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that he brings a bottle of rum every Friday for the dad so obviously knows the parents but I'm
going to tread carefully when I say this but obviously they've been seeing each other for a while
you would think but they haven't slept together yet because Duncan alludes to that um but then she
just goes off and sleeps with Alex straight away yeah well just like that woman with the passport

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you know I mean no path no fury mate indeed indeed so they do say in this Allison 60 and there's a
bit of a the math doesn't quite right because they say she's only 16 and six years younger than
Alex but they say that Alex 23 so yeah it's six seven years depending on where you you kind of land
I guess but still the end of the day she is pregnant and it's straight into it you know you she's

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crying and there's no kind of big reveal of like oh I'm pregnant you're kind of wondering I mean
you know what's happening but you're kind of wondering what's going on because she's upset and
crying to her mom and she's like will you tell my father will you tell my father and you know they're
still kind of alluding to it and then you know revealed that she's pregnant and lovely lines they are
um in terms of that you know she works in the chemist did you not get something you know like what

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and arguments they are but yeah a fantastic little scene there and I for me in terms of that scene
like Mary Riggins is just phenomenal when there's a couple of absolutely great lines when she comes
up you know when she's worried about telling her father and she says that Duncan's not the father
who is it and Alex says you don't know him and well because do you and yeah but the one for me is

(55:57):
when she says about Alex being a sailor and from then on she starts saying like how long if you know
in sin bad and yeah starts calling him sin bad and it's just fucking brilliant oh god you missed it
you might have better luck with my dad what you be cracking up honey it's a big chance of

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leaving no chance I you don't even know names Alex Johnson and he goes to see oh my god that's same
what else all you can do wait a minute it's a nice boy honest and he's only 23
hello have you known sin bad three months he's been he man like this she's going off cryage because

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oh go and dry your eyes and say a prayer or something and it's yeah absolutely fantastic um but yeah
I just love to just how long if you know in sin bad absolutely fantastic there but yeah you
you do get and you're right that she is quite similar to her character in the silly season she is
you know like this is sort of prone to these little outbursts of emotion you know when

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Alex is stood in the in the close or she's she's in the hallway I think and she says there's
there's something else he's a Catholic and she goes oh Jesus I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be
funny but it it's funny you know I mean I don't know if that's just maybe Riggins getting to be
bit carried away and a performance or what but um but yeah she definitely goes for it some of the

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fre some of the turns of phrase in this though you know so many that are sort of shoot that I just
kind of shoehorn then um about you know the I read McCallum threatens to put somebody in the spin bin
at one point meaning the washing machine obviously I think she tells Joe to go and shite in a poke yes
and or my favourite is when they're in the room with the with the with the aunties

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that's the room the aunties and they're taught they're sort of appraising the room and she says how
it's quite cold and when the aunties says hi it's three brass monkeys are they are looking for a welder
she's just a brilliant expression and I'm right the brass monkeys in its own is heavy yes but
you know trust the somebody from the west of Scotland just to take a phrase like that and just put

(58:17):
a bit of sugar on it you know well I had listed because there's a few um in terms of the religious
terms as well that are used in this so straight away made it against drops one you know your daughters
pregnant and he's a left footer and it's like oh Jesus um and then um Colin Jerry's leaven at one

(58:41):
point you know when he's he's speaking to Allison he does refer to a good South African grape and
really enjoyed that as well I kind of I was like is that a thing because he does say about how he'll
get on with the family and he says I could get along with the backside of a donkey oh yeah maybe
that's not appropriate in this is that meant to me like the whole religious thing with like Mary

(59:04):
and Joseph and the donkey or I don't I don't think so I think you just I think you just meant you know
I was that I could expression okay situation I don't think I've got even far there
got picture damn it sure Joseph and Mary going to bethly him on the donkeys and the old
tesses and the fucking church of Scotland as well I remember singing the remember singing that

(59:26):
will donkey at school we weren't like we weren't slagging off the catholic school didn't she?
all right maybe I was stretching there then the other thing I picked up on though is the word
bum is used a lot in this yeah like three times when Joseph's to Alec don't you shirk it my
father like that you big bum and Betsy says to Colin is that all you've got to say you big bum and

(59:51):
Alec says to Joel later on when I get married your bum's either windy which is is fair enough but
calling someone a big bum is that is that a 70s west of Scotland thing or I've never really heard
that expression I mean I just assumed it was you know they get's whoops sorted the rogatory terms
can we get into that can I get into this because you know this is this is a culture where people spend

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a lot of their time verbally abusing each other and probably in reality much more colorful language
than calling somebody a big bum or a waste there or whatever you know so I always took it as sort of
BBC 1970s acceptable swearing does they like this one or two bastards in this and there's definitely a
bitch and it is a bell calls Alison are we probably bitch yeah something like that so I just thought

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you know this is just P.M. they do go what you know what can you get away with in terms of the
language and probably bum maybe you only allow the certain number of bums per broadcasting a letter
or something like that back in the BBC back then could be yeah could be that I guess maybe that's
why you went with because there does seem to be a lot of bums oh see you can't answer me

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oh for Jesus sake grand a shut up bloody thing up at least play another tune will you don't you
shout at me I fear the like that your big bum anyway you know he can he play another tune but yeah
I think the the reaction of the parents is very and it's true it's exactly as you say that's
trying to show that these families are are very similar in a way and the reaction is very similar

(01:01:24):
as well they're both kind of horrified that their child is in this situation and in both situations
it's the mother really that is doing all the talking but they're they're trying to work out how to do
things and how best to do things and of course the the Catholic way as well you're going to have to
get married in the chapel yeah in the chapel of course and no exception the Protestant family there

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is a talk of getting things sorted and you know possibly termination but that's never really mentioned
again or is is on the cards but yeah it's it's very much the Catholic way in terms of you've got to
get married in the chapel now they do force this because obviously when the two sets of parents meet
and that is a wonderful scene like when Joe and I's on their finest and Colin Betsey arrive and

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the awkwardness in that moment and the initial exchanges just just so tok herling in wonder it's
so it's so awkward initially yeah it's it oh it's beautifully done because you know yeah
been in situations like that it is very kind of awkward in terms of what you're speaking about and
hi and of course with this added tension in this as well if they've both been probably building up

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to meet each other probably slagging each other off before they've met them you know calling them
pips and you know talking about the proddies and stuff and it's yeah and imagine I'm a common sin
bad it's it's probably been a build up and then so there is a little kind of awkwardness and relief
and for me though it does show that Colin tells Joe he's never been inside a chapel but he'd be proud

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to enter one with him and then you've got Isaac telling Betsey that it's Alec you know blaming Alec
he wants to get married in a chapel I said it doesn't bother me but he's adamant you can see the
Protestants don't care and are just going along with it like like you know Catholics of kind I manipulated
them into getting what they want and is that a social commentary of the time or am I stepping on

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something I shouldn't step on no I don't necessarily I guess it's how you interpret it I mean
I interpret it a wee bit differently in that you know Betsey would rather that they got married in
the church but she but she's like you know it will have to be the chapel because the these Catholics are
you know she says I'll say one thing from them they're they're rigid or whatever they're

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staunch or whatever whatever she says a kind of member but going back to what you were what you
mentioned earlier about female and male characters in this for the most part Colin and Joe to some
extent probably more so on Joe's side it may be because he's getting you know his that the the
Alison's been persuaded to get married in the chapel they portray themselves at least as

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do you know doesn't bother me yeah I just want we just we just want the kids to be happy we need to get
out of their way but it's these women you know and then when it goes to the women and we see Betsey
and Isabelle sitting at the table having a drink in the kitchen they're having the same conversation
as the guys and they're having a drink as well the guys are snuck off to have a drink and you know

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to get because Joe's got a couple of bottles of electric soup stashed on top of the wardrobe
and Isabelle and Betsey have gone in the kitchen to make a cup of tea and are sitting having a drink
right no cup of tea being made and Isabelle saying you know that you know I think it's
wouldn't bother me where she got where they got married just you know let's and Betsey's saying the

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same thing and there's sort of a point into worse their husbands as the you know nobody wants to take
responsibility for their own or they don't take responsibility for their own prejudice
outwardly you know and you see how we flash at the wedding dinner when Joe starts singing Danny
boy yes and a few of the table and Collins got this look in his face where he's it's almost as low

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as can I come to in a situation that he's really uncomfortable you know what I mean and the only
solution is to get even more pissed because that because that being that is pretty much how the
adults and putting my quotation fingers up deal with this situation they have that awkward moment

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when they sit down they talk about granda and what a person who they is and the only knows one
tune in the harmonica or the muthy and then they go off and get pissed and then they have the
wedding and they they're sitting at the table in the front room and everybody's fucking getting on it
and they just and even the aunties when they're finished talking Alice and they're like come on
let's go out and they're before the men drink all the booze yeah it's going to get a few drinks down

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it's never thin and you know they get when they take Ali can Alison to Aunt Emeenies to the fucking
love nest and drop them off there they say they're going away to have a few more drinks you know what
I mean and it's just we just need to fucking drink this situation away like alcohol will take the
edge off at all you know but there's almost a moment when Joe starts singing Danny boy where

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about guys they what kind of song is that to sing yeah but I don't know what's so offensive about
the song Danny boy because it's just that I always thought Danny boy was like a reference to an
Irish guy who's far away from home who's trying to get home I don't know enough about to be honest
to to go into that I know the the pipes the pipes are calling yeah I presume it is like a catholic

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song because I don't know Celtic singing so I know but I'm sure I know it's a catholic song but I don't
see what's offensive about it unless it's just offensive because it's seen as a catholic song
because the content of the song is just so speak a guy who's homesick for Ireland you know yeah I guess

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it's not like the Protestants have started singing the fields of Athens or something or the sash or
something I guess maybe that's probably but yeah Joe obviously apologizes stops and then sings nobody's
child instead um yeah do you know what would you sing if you were to give a turn at a wedding
yeah would you sing a song or would you do my magic I thought no maybe I'd do if I was

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going to sing a traditional song maybe I would do wild mountain time that's a nice song yeah
that's easy I'm not going to sing it here that's an easy one oh but you did you just tell your joke
about the tillets guy in the bar no I don't think I would know I'd probably go with um but I have
to know limit by two unlimited or something yeah so easy yeah get everyone down to some old guy

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shouts oh good songs that to sing it's Dutch tech so yeah yeah it does show the kind of adults
you're right they're arguing so they get pushed and then of course it cuts to the kids who are arguing
and that seemed to me really did just show you know just to say a young Brian Petter for
their argument politics which stems from religion it really does influence every part of your life

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in terms of that and I'm thinking well that's just ridiculous and then I thought back to when I was
at school and of course being from Aberdeen we don't have like a religious divide there was nothing
no you know Aberdeen's not really a religious city most of the churches are now pubs but
what what kind of divide did you at school and I guess you probably find similar it was your taste

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in music and yeah it did influence everything like the ravers at my school we listened to dance music
and stuff they smoked regal and they wore kickers shoes and they wore like a deedous jumper so it is
the smelly's which I was we smoked mobra and wore DMs and wore fucking pearl jam and Irvana T-shirts
with tart and shirts over the top like yeah you all had you know I couldn't wear kickers or

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smoke regal be like well why are you doing that yeah a raver now no but it's kind of the the
the Halloween smoke regal anyway but it's the that's just the the divide so I guess that it does
it's still it's a tribal thing I guess about a religious thing yeah I mean but when I was at school
in Glasgow but I was at school in Bishop Briggs she's just a bitch sort of in Glasgow but just

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out say Glasgow depending on who you speak to and I went to a Protestant school and her school
there was because we were in Bishop Briggs there was a lot of like Asian kids there was a lot of
Indian and Pakistani kids some Chinese kids but predominantly white but my cousins went to so I
went to Woodhill Primary my cousins went to St. Helens and I was close with my and I still am close

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with my cousins that the cousins did it can sure because we're close in age and we'll be boys
together and everything and they are bad this Catholic and they went to St. Helens sports celty
can everything else but I would often go when I was because I was just my mum and I I would often
go to my auntie Isas because she lived in Bishop Briggs and we lived in Rob Royston so I would
often go to my auntie Isas after school and I would sometimes go in because I'd used to be

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seem to get out a wee bit earlier than St. Helens for whatever reason because usually by the time I
got there the kids were just coming out and I would wait for Daddy can sure and maybe walk the
rest the way together can honestly say never had any kind of grief because kids are kids right
and you know like it wasn't nobody I would wear in school uniform so it wasn't like I was

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inconspicuous or anything you know I mean like I was wearing my I swear my wood hill uniform and
they were all when there's some hell inch uniform saying not once did any kids ever give me any grief
at all and me and Daddy can sure it would walk home together so I think I think I'm not saying that
it was you know it wasn't quite as big a thing in the early in mid 80s as it would as it maybe was

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at the time that this was made because I think in some parts of Glasgow it probably they can
east end the Glasgow and kind of gov in and the south and stuff like that it probably was still a divisive
situation but it didn't I don't have any experience of it at all like if my cousins were going to give me
a hard time it was because I was sort of a default Rangers fan because that's what my grandfather

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my father supported that team and their dad was big Celtic fan and took the boys to park head from
when they were we and so they were big Celtic fans you know what I mean and depending on whichever side
of the old firm was going through a you know a good run of form one of us would roast the other
until I don't know just seemed to me anyway it just got less and less and less important to the point

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where couldn't be fucking less interesting I don't know you know but I don't know I mean I think it's
still it's still part of life and particularly Glasgow and some somewhat for some communities and
they still got the orange the orange walking Glasgow in the summer you know what I mean which
just seems mad to me and they I think they I think they still have the hebernian walk as well

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and stuff like that I just never you know they you know I would judge anybody for it but I just
I don't understand yeah I don't get it you know just seems it seems so old fashioned and irrelevant now
you know I got more to worry about did did I miss something or did something go over my head
when they're having the reception at the flat and Joe is giving his speech he has his hand bandaged

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and he says that someone student is hand on the way back from the pop yeah it's a joke yeah
but then the guy who objects to Danny boy also has a bandage on his hand yeah it does yes now there
must be something there that's not a coincidence or something is it or we meant to allude I don't
know if they have a scrap or something or I don't know but or is it just a coincidence I think I

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don't know I mean I don't think that the guy the other guy with the bandage in his hand
I don't I don't feel like that I don't feel like that was related to I thought Joe was just
telling a joke and that this guy's got a bandage in his hand because you know the production really
wants to emphasize the fact that these are real working class greenic people you know what I mean

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and yeah this is the guy who likes a drink and he's probably either hurt his hand and he's fucking
hard job in the river and the shippieards or he's part of it in the pub getting into a fight with
somebody or something you know just that what I just I just wondered because it just I just thought
it was a strange little detail that I'd noticed yeah yeah so David Heyman is Alex probably

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spoken much about him because he's not really that much so he's 23 he's a sailor Sinbad he's
often ships knocks up Hallison Maryser yeah then buggers off back on the boats again hmm the thing
that struck me the most about David Heyman in this because I've mentioned before I met David Heyman
and he's not a tall man hmm yeah I guess I mean I'm so I would say I'm kind of maybe just above

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average height yeah like six one or something but David Heyman seemed quite smolting me
in this production he's like a fucking giant yeah you know he seems seems he seems taller than
everybody apart from maybe Jerry Sleven but you know they then the scene would Joe like he's a lot
taller than Joe and he then maybe think is he standing on something to make him seem taller because

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obviously we want you know if you was like McDougal when the director want to give us the impression
that I think is the man of the house yeah you know he's there getting his smart gear on for a night out
he's he's got money in his pocket because he goes to see and everything you've got his dad can
have tapping money off him I don't think that scene would have worked if they had been I level with

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each other yeah Joe Joseph had been a wee bit taller than him I think Heyman had to be it has to be
taller in that in that scene but then when you see them all together when he brings Alison and
Betsy and Colin over to meet his mum and dad he still seems like he's quite tall I don't know if
they've fucked about with the perception and maybe we'll stand a bit further behind them or something
that they seem really tall he certainly does yeah it's very true because David Heyman isn't the

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tallest so yeah I don't know what they've done there but you're right I guess he has to be an
imposing figure as he is one of the house and you're right he is kind of in charge the
so he is going to go back on the boats after the waiting to get money for a deposit and you know you
think okay that's fair enough but then it turns out he's going to be a wee seven months and you're
like right so he's going to mess the whole pregnancy and then we kind of find out at the end that

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he's been back he's been spotted out at the dancing but then he's gone away again on the boats
because I guess he just can't be asked for this it's not the life for him yeah it's a bit of a
dick really isn't he I like a bit of a kid and he gets absolutely annihilated his own wedding now
you're an ayah both had weddings and like there was and it didn't even have to be spoken about

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beforehand and when I got married we were lost with the days when we all of us really liked a
fucking drink among other things but it didn't even have to be sort of said Greg do not get steaming
at your own wedding you know that yeah I think I only have maybe all day maybe four or five drinks

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the entire day at my wedding yeah it's not really the done thing is it there's that famous clip it
always goes round I think is on Instagram or something it's the the mother-in-law feeding the groom
sandwiches because he's yeah absolutely mortaled but yeah Alec does get absolutely shit face the
wedding so much so that his father and his new father-in-law have to carry him to the love nest and yeah he

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just lies there snoring and take his trousers off for him yeah poor Alec and his take his socks off
so yeah I mean the funny thing is should have been better off with Duncan and I know like our mother
says this as well because Duncan's obviously in an upward church he's yeah he signed for Manchester
we presume it's united just to heal that on the TV the end he gets his first Scotland cap

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has to be a kick in the balls but then you think back in the early 70s Alec was probably making more
money on the boats than Duncan was playing for Man United you would think well don't you know what say
that he moved he transferred in a hundred and fifty thousand pound deal or something like that yes
they do yeah and the entity yeah but I mean that would be what the club paid for them I suppose yes
yeah would be yeah yeah I don't think it but I don't know I did watch a documentary about Jimmy Hill

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and I know that most people in Scotland of a certain age have no time for Jimmy Hill because he was
very pro-England as a pundit but when he was the manager when he was a player and then he was
managed for Coventry by all accounts he did really do a lot for players wages in the first division
as it was in England because he felt that players weren't getting paid enough to sort of set themselves

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up you know what when they would be owned their effectiveness as a player you know because a lot of
these guys would end up going back into jobs they'd be back then you know they'd go back to the trade
if they had one or end up doing some shitty labour and job or whatever it wasn't really until you
got the guys like George Best and all that that were making a lot of money through yeah sponsorships

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and stuff you know no tartan army has no time for Jimmy Hill we did have a famous song about him of
course which I'm not going to just came to my mind there I'm not thought about it for a long long time
yeah and it brought a big smile on my face simple but effective

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did you watch did you look at that one I sent of the football chance I did yeah I just want to
answer again the other way the the first couple were really quite funny it kind of they sort of
pulled themselves out towards the end but the first couple really made me chuckle I mean because

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he's got limited lines in this of course haven and he's not even allowed to give a speech at his own
waiting his mum tells him to sit down everybody's talk now he's spoken so yeah good guy he's like well
I feel enough I'll just get pushed instead I guess yeah what he does have the line when he's getting
walked across the back green then he's he's shouting and balling and that and the tells him to be quiet

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yeah I'm no scared of the bastards you know I'm no fear for the bastards I mean there is a lot of
alcohol consumed over the course of the shower and a lot of drunk acting but it's eyes are in
Joe pushed doing the gay gardens in the lounge is absolutely fucking brilliant like I just was in

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hysterics of that you can it's the part is kind of ending everyone's really gone but they're still
pushed doing the gay gardens in the middle of the lounge and then Joe says oh I'm done with the
chicken it's like oh fantastic absolutely brilliant I loved it it's um it's it's the other thing about
this is that I don't think 30 seconds goes by with somebody lighting up yeah I've seen

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I feel like I feel like Iley McCallum's got a a bag between her fingers the whole time or she's
just lighting up eh Collins always got a fucking bag burning but it's fingers you know I mean they
they're just constant and I was wondering myself would they have been but they just
been smoking proper fags because when I was a kid it seemed like everybody smoked yeah you know what I

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mean I probably I mean yeah towards the end like when the baby has arrived and Mary
Riggins is dealing with a baby in adolescence on the sofa she's watching TV with a fag you know
yeah small confronted that way and it's fine but yeah I got all over it yes and all over it
and but yeah you're right and that is a wonderful part as well we're calling cat find is lighter

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and then just grabs the candle that is on the man's office under the picture of Jesus and lights
his fag off to show his absolute this day in this situation is just fucking wonderful but I
could I could I could work out if it was to show his if it was a passive aggressive move or just
he's completely ignorant to yeah the the situation it was not it's not I guess you can take it

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anyway you want but I mean either way it's really effective yeah I I did think it was probably just
ignorance like he's not realizing that this is an important thing that is here and but yeah it's
just spurt lighting his fag from it is brilliant so well done and then for him to come back in the room
pished after the electric soup and the scene where he thinks Jesus's eyes are following him all

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around the room and the brilliant line oh god I thought I was nearly converted it was yeah you know
and they all laugh so it's fine it's okay I mean get it's not pished but it breaks the ice to some
extent go up here and they're in the night dress
you see those eyes are set in such a way that wherever you are they follow you

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understand you mean you can't escape them
I was nearly converted I just I just love joy I mean it's such a it's such a male thing to do
that it's sort of like you know because we've all been in situations where you know maybe we've

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gone and met a couple and maybe the girls are friends like the girl we slash got a friend and
we're meeting the guy for the first time and it's a bit awkward you know what I mean but if one of you
can say you can come in a minute just what I show you something yeah you know and then yeah
you have to be fun oh well are we cheeky carnivores?
bought the wine I've had to open the workshop yeah that I mean that Joe understands that that's

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probably the best way to bond with Colin because you get the expression that maybe Joe realizes
that as much as Colin's applaud they probably got more in common then maybe the women would be
willing to admitted having common you know what I mean in the way that Jodi added the way that
Colin's like face and eyes light up when Joe produces this bottle that's oh I got it's like

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sitting in the actually there but now it's it and then they just have a drink and see
create and put the world to write but then yeah that's the beautiful part when it cuts the women
and they are doing exactly the same and yeah just to show that the religions are equal and men and
women are equal and yeah we're all the same really it's just slightly does not believe but what's

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the thing can I come back to what I said earlier on they they're all two sides of the same coin and
I mean I can feel that way about sort of church of Scotland slash church of England's
in Catholicism it's not like these people are worshipping an entirely different god like the
interpretation because I got sent to a Roman Catholic high school and we lived in battle in front of it

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and we had to do some new testament stuff and all that and I know that Catholics tend to focus
on the new testament more than church have been Protestants do but you know fundamentally the story
of the new testament is the same in a fucking church of England Bible as it is in a Roman Catholic Bible
right the story of Jesus and all that kind of thing it's exactly the same it's just all from the

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different perspectives of the different apostles you know what I mean so I always found that a bit
strange that because they don't really disagree over religion they disagree over history and like
you know Northern Ireland and how Catholics were persecuted by English landowners back with
Henry VIII was in power or like and I think that in the William of Orange and everything that's

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really what and now more recently Rangers in Celtic that's really what it's about it's not about
you they don't disagree on religion because they worship the same fucking gods you know I mean
fucking silly bastard when Alex I mean the wedding's over Alex away back in the boats but
Allison stays with Isaiah and Joe rather than why I think that's that's probably tradition maybe

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yeah maybe that's maybe that's a traditional thing but she seems to end up back at her
Betsy and Collins though does it sure well because you could tell that you know it fast forwards
a few months obviously Islands have Allison's heavily pregnant and yeah Isaiah's had a fucking fill
with her like and doesn't hold back in the venom that she's spouting no you know she obviously

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saying it so she can hear and yes it's really a horrible scene to watch like berating her
that all she does is just sit in that room yeah because she's fucking eight nine months pregnant
you know what you expect yeah and and uncomfortable in a strange house with strange people because to
get married what two or three weeks after the parents of me yeah which we're giving the impression

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that happens pretty soon after Allison announces the fact that she's become pregnant and everything
and that's yeah when the venom comes out with like you know Isaiah saying you know she's no one of us
and it's yeah that's it doesn't matter she is your daughter-in-law she's about to give bursty
her grandchild but yeah she's no one of us because she's a a Protestant so it can't be you know you

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can't accept and yeah terrible but you're right yeah she does obviously go back home um to that
and Mark and look after the baby because I'd imagine Isaiah's like not no chance at that I'm looking
after that yeah exactly where there's maybe many regains seems quite but the thing is as well
there seems to be and again I wonder if this is maybe a bit of some slice stereotype and but

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there seems to be a lot of kids in Alex's house by ranging from Alex because obviously the oldest
yeah down to some like with the young kids mm-hmm doesn't seem to be as many kids in
calling him Betsy's house you know what I mean so you know Betsy seems I don't know maybe more
disposed than I don't say happier but she seems quite enthusiastic in the way she's putting the

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nap here and the baby and getting it out the basin and everything else yeah seems delighted
it is yeah yeah whereas as the bell is always you'll eat it and you'll like it and even when the
one of the kids runs past her into the clothes they're on she sort of slaps them on the back as he
runs in that's again they are you know so yeah because I think there would be a stereotype of
a Catholic slip because they big you know traditionally they can't use conscious

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options so they just have hundreds and hundreds of kids you know what I mean that's what I presumed
at what's great yes why there were so many children in that flat but yeah yeah calling Betsy's you
see like one other kid I think yeah maybe one yeah but yeah I presume there's maybe more I don't know
but yeah not quite as many but yeah I presumed it was the contraception it was the the reason so

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is it time to put just your luck through our swallowing awards let's do it Greg okay so the awards
don't lend themselves to as much in this as perhaps other productions we've done but I'll start off
normally we'd have the Bobby the Barman award for the best pub but as you pointed out all the scene
it's obviously the same stage and I've just dressed the it to look like it's a bell and jose flat

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for some scenes and yeah Betsy Collins for others and anti-mami's love nest but the best pub in it
appears to be the bedroom where yeah it's showing Alex I've got the bottles all right and so next then
the next award is the Jake McWillan your teez-oot award so there is there is an obvious one but I didn't
feel great about awarding an award to it no I put no award I did say obviously Riggins gets a

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slap from Sleven but no I wouldn't feel comfortable putting that in so no I didn't put anything for
teez-oot yeah next award then would be the Frances Begby award for gratuitous language obviously
BBC early 70s I think they go as far as they can there's one or two bastards there's at at
least one bitch at one point when Alex calls his dad a shitter of course to the pub and

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otherwise it's it's fairly a fairly team yeah I did I did laugh out loud and I did put when
Alex is going to the pub and he says to his dad shut your shitter I'm going for a drink and I just
see yeah love to shut your shit fucking bro yeah have a nice time son yeah next award is the

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you McGregor award for gratuitous juridity I don't think there's anybody that would want to see
with their clothes off no and just your luck even even buburella so next award then is the archetypal
Scottish moment I sidestepped teenage pregnancy this time and I went for a scramble at a wedding oh
I went I went for getting pumped up a close

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sure sure there's many of us that could probably point to the tenement stairs as the moment of
our conception well I don't know if I can ask that but myself but I don't think so anyway
sure pretty people could yeah but you know I guess other sort of mentions are some of the
expressions you know we've said a few already your bombs are at the windy for example it's great

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a scotch expression go go shout in a poke is more of the more I don't know because it's a rare ones
I don't doubt that it's been uttered many a time yeah if Peter McDougall was putting it in the
in the mouths of these characters and then last day then is the big time award who wins just your luck

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for you I gave it to Eileen McCallum and Mary Riggins because I kind of couldn't pick I mean to be
fair it's probably I Lee McCallum overall but I thought Mary Riggins does have a couple of great lines
and a lot of the scenes they have together is great if I was forced to just pick one I'd pick
I Lee McCallum no okay well I went I went for Jerry Sleven and the reason being that there's a few

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moments in this when he he sort of it kind of conveys that with what we mentioned it earlier on
but that kind of the sort of internal struggle you know that is maybe feeling within himself in the
sense that he's at best he is incredibly uncomfortable with a Catholic family that he needs to now be

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attached to yeah at worst at worst he is antagonistic towards them at least internally and you
know there's that that moment that I mentioned earlier when he's sitting at the table and Joe
started singing Danny Boy and you know the camera just sort of sits with him for a minute and he's
you know he's got the ubiquitous fucking cigarette between his fingers he's obviously well in his

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cups and he doesn't say anything but he's you can tell that you know this is a situation that he
never thought he would find himself in that that first scene with him and Mary Riggins with she
reminds them of some of the more sectarian things that he said in the past and he says oh you
well I was drunk when I said yeah kind of thing but I do still think that he you know he wants to or he

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thinks that he wants only the best for his oldest daughter yeah and for her to be happy and
everything else you know he talks about education and inadvertently sort of slags off Catholic schools
because he's like you know they don't get schools in education because the church funds the Catholic
schools where this prodigy schools it's funny by the government so there's more money the

(01:32:43):
educations better yeah that's all I mean and that's all I'm concerned about just education I value
education you know what I mean you know he's sort of he's sort of scrambling trying be progressive in
some moments but you can see that he's kind of weighed down with this sort of probably ingrained
sectarian attitudes that he's no doubt being raised to have towards Catholics that his father

(01:33:06):
his grandfather go by generations probably exactly the same and I just think he's subtle you know what
I mean it's it doesn't vocalize it but I just feel that he's really subtle in how he kind of projects it
yeah so I for me I'm curious when I enjoyed and he's he's he's a strike in the congee jury
slavin is yeah you know what it means got a great got a great face you know no I don't yeah I

(01:33:28):
agree with everything you've said there yeah I think you do you deliver as a great performance he's
yeah but very very goodness and yeah well I think yeah very good yeah okay so that's just your
luck as I mentioned at the start of the pods you can find it quite easily on YouTube um definitely
worth an hour if you like kuthie scottish drama from the 1970s like we do and it was my choice just

(01:33:50):
your luck which means that it comes back to you to choose what we're watching for the next episode
thank you very much Greg well the next episode will be out on the second of October but we have
three episodes that month so the next two will be the swally's booktacular so I haven't picked
something with swally's particular but what I'm picking does have a scary name so we first learned

(01:34:12):
about this from one of its stars himself Greg and it's about time that we covered it on the swally
when couple martin and rebeca relocate their kids from London to Glasgow neighbor yanns unsettling
remarks hint at a sinister situation unfolding around their new home starring martin cumston angely
mohindra sole mcloid and sir james cosmos it is the 200 the 200 the two thousand and 25 amazon

(01:34:38):
prime three part drama and it is called fear oh brilliant we're looking for a reason to watch
this for ages I don't know and I just thought it's the perfect time fear halloween sound the corner
it's time to get fearful so yeah uh two dice twenty five's fear and yeah we learned about that from
the great man himself he told us all about it well he said he was doing it anyway I've never

(01:35:03):
mentioned in his birthday greetings to my good self you're good self
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maybe we'll see wonderful well we are recording this on uh Monday oh I need to pause so
Steve Clarke's talking uh Monday the uh the September Scotland are about to play Bella Rousse in a couple
hours gonna go I presume you won't be staying up to watch it because it's a bit late for you
no it's a bit late yeah anything after 10 o'clock's a bit late for me these days mate yeah

(01:36:32):
with either because yeah no I can imagine I can imagine yeah yeah I'll see almost the first half see
how it goes and then yeah probably go a bit so nevermind we shall see yeah wonderful right well
have a lovely week and until next time until next time no i was full you never asked how he come
here it was out isn't belong here there's no us we don't know her you're sick wasting over

(01:37:03):
going to like it we're just no one he has but I didn't mother part with
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