Episode 136 - Fear (2025) - The Culture Swally

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
[Music]

(00:15):
Hello and welcome to the Culture Swally, a podcast dedicated to Scottish News and Pop Culture.
My name is Nicky and I'm joined as always by the man who has never licked my vanilla slice.
It's Greg, how are you today, buddy? It's not for the want of trying, I can tell you, listeners.
But you do like it when I wear those things. I do, yeah. I bet you look lovely in them.

(00:38):
I'm okay, I'm just kind of coming out. I've had a bit of a short cold in there. I started to feel
that we've got a bit roppy on Thursday night after the antennas, a little bit, sort of chilly and
you know, a bit sensitive to temperature. Got a slept, felt okay and Friday, got through Friday,
but I've got a few drinks on Friday night to see off a colleague and then, you know,

(01:02):
saturday and sunday, I was a bit sniffily. So my throat so that would dry, I keep it, I've got like,
but I may have to go and refill my water a few times because I'm going to be doing a bit of
a lot of talking obviously. But I'm fine. I'm, yeah, I'm good. I'm alright. I haven't let it slow me down.
I am, being a brave, brave boy. A brave boy, it's wonderful to hear. Oh, I'm sorry to hear you've

(01:23):
been feeling unwell, but I'm glad you're on the mend. Yeah, that's good. That's that time of the year,
isn't it? Skills back. Yeah, it's funny. I woke up this morning. I thought my throat was a bit
scratchy and I thought, well, you know, I, you felt like I'd been at a concert last night or something,
and been shouting or singing along, but I was like, nah, so I did go, I went to like an open mic

(01:44):
comedy night, but I was just on my own. I have a few laughs, but like nothing that was shouting or
anything. So yeah, it was very strange. Don't know. But I feel okay, otherwise. Were you doing some
shouting at the wrestling on the phrase in it? Yeah, a little bit of shouting, nothing too much, but yeah,
did a little bit of shouting. Got a good, they got a good, a good chant going towards the end of

(02:07):
Suck His Dick, which was quite a good to have the Dutch try chanting that, but yeah, I know it was
very good. It was very exciting. So it's like you traveled back to the attitude era in the
WWE. It was, and I think some of the wrestlers probably, I mean, there was a couple that were
modelled on effectively stuff, pre-actured era. So it was, it was very good actually. But yeah,

(02:32):
it was kind of being transported back. Did we ever mention on the podcast about
our mutual friend? Perhaps, and you know, you and I have known him for a long time, this might be
the coolest thing he's ever done, but managing to get you a little message from British,
the barber beefcake, couldn't you, a birthday? Yeah. Because you're, you're, you're a, so our mutual
friend, this and theirs is a member of a sort of, would you call it Star Wars Club, where they dress

(02:56):
up in movie, accurate costumes and they go to comic collins and they, they, they, they do good stuff,
they raise money usually for local charities and things and whatnot, and they get photographs,
taking with the kids and things, but he managed to get, it was rumble about your birthday, wasn't
it? He managed to get British, the barber who was doing some signing at the con in Aberdeen,
I think it was, yeah, to give you a little birthday, yeah, it's amazing. Like, I know,

(03:18):
Mickey, young Mickey must have been up to Hydo, where, a little dedication like that, surely.
Oh, he was, he was. I can't remember. I think it was like the, I felt really bad, because I think
it was like the day after my birthday or something, it was Sunday. I remember, because I,
um, my girlfriend took me away to Bruges for my birthday, so surprise. Yeah. And I think, I think we

(03:42):
came back on the Sunday and we basically, like, got back in the afternoon, went to the supermarket,
got some food, cooked it and just crashed because we're chattowed and could send it. Our mutual friend
had sent it. Um, the, that evening, I didn't even look at my phone, like until I think the next day,

(04:02):
and I saw it and I felt a bit bad about that, but, um, but yeah, no, it was, it was lovely. So,
lovely little gift, a little hello from Bruges, the barber beef cake. Yeah. Ali from Scottsway, he is
met her, a mutual friend, because he was with us and we met up with Ali in Glasgow last summer for
a few beers. Yes. So, whenever we mentioned our mutual friend, Ali knows exactly who we're talking about.
I think a few people know exactly who we're talking about. That's Ali. He's a good egg. He's a very good

(04:30):
egg. I love him a bit. Um, okay, right. Well, shall we have a look at what's been happening in
Scotland over the last few days, Greg? Curly Jingle.
Hello. This is the out there, have at least broadcasting,
coderation. And here is what's been going on in the new.

(04:53):
Oh, okay, Greg. What have you seen in newspapers from Scotland over the last couple of weeks
that you'd like to share with me and our lovely listeners? Well, uh, well, just, I was
they discussing a wrestling superstar from the golden age of W.E. W.F. as it was back then.
My first story concerns a superstar of the what age would you say? What would you call the age of

(05:18):
Dave Batista at W.F.? Um, he was, uh, kind of the, you know, he was tail end of actually the era.
I don't know kind of the reality era or reality. Oh, oh, oh, oh, ruthless aggression. Oh, he was part of
ruthless aggression. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, this story comes in the day they record, um, at the

(05:41):
week end of Scott, 21st of September, and it's, uh, actor Dave Batista says filming in Scotland was an
absolute must ahead of the highlander reboot, uh, the Marvel actor. Of course, Dave plays
Drax and Guardians of the Galaxy films, uh, will play Highlander's iconic bad guy, the Kyrgyn,
and the remake of the 1980s cult classic alongside, um, ex-Superman star Henry Cavill is told,

(06:08):
uh, Batista that is as told how filming in Scotland was a must for him as he prepares to take on his
dream role in the Highlander reboot. Frenchman Christoph Lambert, uh, they'd The Highlander
in the 1986 original with, uh, Big Tam himself, sir Sean Connore, appearing as his mentor,
Ramires as well as Clancy Brown in the role of the, uh, immortal evil Kyrgyn. Uh, we have covered

(06:32):
the Highlander film, the original one on the pod, uh, if you go back to 20, 21, possibly even
late 2020, but it was early days, but we had a good time chatting about it as a recall, um, you can.
Batista, uh, former WWE wrestler is best known for his role of Drax in the Marvel series

(06:55):
Guardians of the Galaxy, but the American says it has been a dream to play the Kyrgyn, and he was
clear that for the movie's battle scenes to look authentic, filming HAD to take place in the Highlands
of Scotland, speaking exclusively to the Sunday male Batista, who I was quite surprised to see
56, I thought I thought that I was, uh, him and I were a bit closer in age than that to be honest. I

(07:18):
don't know, but I found out today that fucking shocked me, just going to tanger it a little, but,
you know, a Terry Christian who used to present the word. Yeah. He's 65 now. Terry Christian. I guess
that would be right, yeah. Yeah, but I don't, I don't, so it must have been when he was presenting the
word. He must have been like 35. Yeah. I've known that, I might know I've been so invested,
it must be used television. Anyway, I do like Terry Christian. Speaking exclusively to the Sunday

(07:42):
male Batista 56 said, I know we have heard actors say I have wanted to play this role my whole life,
but honestly, I have wanted to play this role my whole life. I know in this era, there's all sorts of
technology to make it appear that you're filming somewhere you aren't, but for me, it's all about
being authentic, and that's why we had to film in Scotland. The battle scenes are going to be

(08:04):
incredible. Some of the best, I think, audiences will have seen you add that to the backdrops of the
Scottish Highlands. I'm going to end up with something that is visually stunning. Batista will be
rejoined by Inverness born actor Karen Gillan who played Nebula in Guardians of the Galaxy.
Gillan will appear in Highland, there is Heather, the wife and love interest of Corner McLeod. Batista

(08:26):
has nothing but praise for his co-star. He said, I cannot wait to start working with Karen again. She
is such a talent. Oh, that's it. Yeah, so they think Batista will be a good
a good Kurgen. Yeah, I think you will be. We'll be as good as Clancy Brown, I'm sure, but yeah,
I think you will be a very good Kurgen. It's good casting. How do you feel about this new Highlander film?

(08:48):
Well, the thing about the old, I mean, the original Highlander film is, you know, like it's part of
its charm is it sort of 80s aesthetic, right? It's sort of like the Highlands of Scotland as
imagined by like a music video director and it's all quite stylish. But I think the story is pretty

(09:12):
cool, you know, like the sort of universe, like I think they sort of lost their way with it in the
sequels, you know, I went a bit wrong in the sequels, I think. But the original film, it's a great sort of
premise that they set up, I think, and it does lend itself to it. I think I never really watched the TV
series because I don't know, I just, you know, Sean Corny wasn't in it. Christoph Ambeer wasn't in it.

(09:36):
I wasn't really that interested in it, but I think it's quite well regarded the TV series. And I think
it does build out the universe because they were one of the good things about the movie is the sort of
flashbacks that he has to like the kind of region siege when he has the duel with the guy and the,
when he finds the girl in the bombsite during the war and all that kind of stuff, you know, and I think

(09:58):
the TV series did a lot more of that kind of thing with the protagonist there, but yeah, I'll go and see it,
you know, I like Batista. He does, you know, he's in June. I'm not a big fan of this June films,
but he does play maybe a bit of a Kyrgyn adjacent sort of character in June and he's very good,
and he's brilliant as Drax, you know what I mean? The asset is really, really, it's a really charming,

(10:22):
funny performance that he gives. And it just gets better and better as the movies is a pewencies go on,
you know, so no, I think it'll be good. And I like Caval to be honest, I've always quite liked him as an
actor. I've been interested in the Healy Scotch accent, you know, like that's the stumbling,
that's the potential pitfall there, but maybe they'll do a bit more with the character of a Healy,
if they're getting somebody like Karen Gillan in the play the part, right? Yeah, you would hope so.

(10:46):
I think so. I mean, just definitely scope for it there. And it depends how they're going to do
things, you know, I'd imagine there will be, if it's a straight remake, but there will be some
reimagining elements, I'm sure. So yeah, no, I'm looking forward to it. I'm a big fan of Batista as well.
Like I think when I got back in to watching wrestling, he was quite prominent, and I really liked

(11:08):
him. He was in like a tag team with Reimestero, like the difference in size, been then de-turned
heel. And yeah, it was really, yeah, so I was really pleased when he kind of moved on and started doing
like the Guardians films and then kind of didn't know where his career was going, because he did do
a couple of dodgy, you know, like there's the one where he's in like a football stadium in the UK.

(11:31):
I think it's West Ham Stadium. He's like, it's called like a final score or something,
and there's like a bomb in a football or something. And it was, it was, it was, he did a couple of
those, but then he's now kind of transitioned. And I think, you know, I think with working with Danny
Villeneuve so much has really helped him as well. And I wonder, because of course he's already been in a

(11:53):
Bond film. And basically, I directly worked with, you know, under his last three pictures, is now
in charge of the next Bond film, but can they bring, I mean, they brought jaws back. I don't remember
if Batista dies. This should come out of Shane Wendell, don't they? I'm a bit like what they did with
jaws and the spider love me and they brought them back from Moon Raker. I mean, that's, but yeah,

(12:15):
to your point is what, because the thing I was thinking, you know, like when we were kids,
wrestlers going in, they probably like, they, they, they probably like the most endearing performance
of a wrestler in a film from when we were kids, probably just even sure in the predator. And he's
kind of just playing himself, you know what I mean? The movies that Hogan did were always about

(12:36):
shits and he wasn't like a great actor Hogan. He's a great presence because he was a big massive,
hard guy. But when you see the wrestlers now that they, they, they, they're also good actors like
John Cena is probably the best example of it. I've been watching the new piecemaker series and
he's fucking, he's fucking great in it and he's carrying that series, you know, and like,

(12:58):
Ricky Stonicky was good in that and he was good in that train wreck movie with Amy. What's her name?
The blonde, you know, not polar, not polar, I pull that. Schumer, Schumer. Yeah, that was quick.
And I was, I quite liked that and he was good in that as well, you know what I mean? So, you know,
I think it's not just like, oh, you know, Mr Hogan will pay you a million dollars if you'll

(13:20):
dress up as a suburban, command, alien guy in this kid's film. It's, you know, these guys want to
like sort of show off their acting chops as well, you know? One of the best reference early examples
that we have, of course, is Rowdy Roddy Piper in they live. Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's a great film.
I wouldn't say that he's great in it, though, you know, no. But it's, Jesse Ventura, I mean, I remember

(13:46):
watching, um, watching on this summer slam 88, there's a flashback to, I think it's, it's maybe Rick
Rudd given British the barber a haircut one night on WF superstars or something like that. And you
think, um, you know, like the British is head so cut and stuff. Remember, Jesse Ventura saying,

(14:07):
no, to, to quote my character in predator, it's payback time, gorilla. He's obviously like, I think
you know, a little bit more acting, not necessarily, um, action film acting,
Jesse Ventura, I think he's done a couple of actual sort of shooting modes and stuff. I think he's
actually probably pretty good, but I mean, he definitely fucking dings out on that, yeah, appearance,

(14:31):
you know? Of course he does. Oh, well, then you Highlander film will be, well,
covering, I'm sure we'll be covering that on this while he wants it to, it's out, uh, but definitely
well, yeah. Anyway, so now that we've built all that anticipation for free as usual, what's
it? Which is a first story of this week. My first story comes from this Scottish sun this week,

(14:52):
Greg, and the headline is, bottle bandits, underage drinkers, nicking boozy tributes from Scots Graveyard
to get drunk. A council has urged people not to leave boozy tributes at graves after youngsters
were stealing them to get drunk. Relatives and pals across Angus have been leaving their departed
loved ones favorite bevies at their final resting place. But the touching trend has been hijacked by

(15:15):
underage drinkers. Kids looking for an easy way to get their hands on drink have been stealing bottles
from the graves and gulping down the contents. If I'm making it sound like it's fizzy pop. Angus,
Angus council has now urged people to stop leaving alcohol at graves as they're proving an easy
way for youngsters to get their hands on alcohol. They said they've seen multiple incidents involving

(15:37):
the hijacked Hootch and Weekends. Cemetery staff have now been forced to patrol the sacred sites
to take away any bottles or cans left behind. They shared an image of one such tribute,
where one grave had a bottle of Budweiser and a bottle of Smirna vodka left on it.
Our council spokesperson said, "We all like to remember and pay tribute to our loved ones who
have passed away in different ways. However, we have to remind visitors to our cemeteries

(16:02):
that you could not leave cans or bottles of alcoholic drinks on gravestones."
In the past few weeks, we've had incidents where children have removed the bottles and have
drunk the contents. Our staff regularly remove alcoholic drinks and store them for collection again.
However, we have no staff working on a weekend when the incidents occurred.
Edinburgh council was forced to close cemeteries because of youngsters holding parties in them.

(16:26):
The new Colton, Buryl, Ground and Old Colton Cemetery have been used for so-called cave raves.
The Grim trend has seen crowds of youths get drunk, take drugs, and hurl abuse at passers-by.
Sounds like a great party. It forced bosses to close down the grave yards at night.
So they were partying at cave raves with underage drinking, drug taking, and abuse to public visitors.

(16:52):
So Greg, leaving alcohol on a grave is seen as a tribute. There's a current trend for this in Scotland,
but kids aren't looking at and getting drunk. It sounds like a fucking stupid thing to leave a full bottle of
booze on a grave. What do they think is going to happen? They think the party is going to come
fucking busting out of the fucking ground and they start knocking back a bottle of smurnd off

(17:17):
and a bottle of vodka. Do you know what I mean? It's like a fucking waste of time.
And then if the cemetery staff collect all these bottles of full alcohol,
and the guy said, you know, the cemetery staff collect them for collection. Who collects them?
Well, it's yeah, I'd imagine they're disposed of, Greg, in a safe manner, I'm sure,

(17:38):
and that'll be the cemetery's Christmas party, so it disposed of in a responsible manner.
It is just, it does show Scotland though, it's a fitting tribute.
Oh, it's been a year since we lost Maureen, isn't it? I'll go down and put some flywars on our grave to
commemorate. Oh, actually, she loved our voddy, didn't moody. Oh, I'll get a weebot a smurnd off

(17:59):
instead and put that on the grave. Like, who thinks that? I know.
Yeah, it's an appropriate tribute. I know, I like flowers make sense because they're a nice
tribute and they're also perishable, so, you know, but like, and sometimes if it's like a
little kid or something, it's passed the way. Sometimes people leave sort of like soft toys

(18:20):
and stuff in the grave, you know, like, you know, they, I know you're coming from, but it's got
to think about the environment as well. Yeah.
You've got to think about the world for the kids of the, when they grow up, that are still alive, you know what I mean?
Well, those kids are helping themselves to the booze that say the grave yards.
Rave caves on it. I mean, a grave yard was always a decent place to go for drinking and a weeknight,

(18:44):
a weeknight? A weekend night anyway.
So it wasn't that. I mean, we had like a grave yard down like Gringibotclerway that we would do
to go in, drinking, have one in evening. Yeah, I've never done that, to be honest. I've
ever done that. Yeah, I've never done that. I've never had a, a swallowing in a grave yard or a cemetery.

(19:05):
Maybe I popped in for a cigarette or something once or twice, just to have my mother, but I don't
think I've ever, yeah, do you ever remember Billy Conley saying when he was visiting Glasgow once,
years and years and years ago, he said that somebody shouted to something like, "Hey, biggie, you're
one of us. You've drank wine up the graveyard." He said, "Never drank wine up the graveyard."
I have shanning the graveyard. I've never drank wine. Yeah, no, I mean, I know it's, I know that,

(19:31):
what's the, what's the graveyard on the Union Street in Aberdeen? What's it called again,
the one there? I can't remember. But yeah, it's the next to backwind, right?
I know that Aberdeen City Council for issues with, not maybe not kids. I think they had issues with kids
vandalising the cemetery, which is pretty fucking despicable, but I think they had more problems with

(19:55):
like, jakes sitting in there and getting pissed during day and intimidating mourners. But then,
I don't think anybody had been planted in that graveyard for about 200 years, probably, probably,
probably getting any mourners these days. But I mean, I'd be, no, I would sometimes think
about cutting through there instead of walking up backwines and I would usually like change my

(20:17):
mind when I saw all the fucking, the fucking Bucky Brigade, all sitting in there, getting hammered.
I think actually I'll just go up backwined. I don't want to be intimidated by these threatening people.
No, very well, you know, safety first Greg, safety first. So yeah, so that is the, is he tripp, it's not the
kind of spirit you'd expect to find in a graveyard, but there we go. I'm not, I'm not a friend,

(20:40):
mutual friend, so for attending a cave rave, because he loves a, he loves a, underage part.
With decks. That's what I was going to say. He loves ship music, but I have to ask him,
next, miss you. Yeah, ask him if he's spent any cave raves. I'm sure we'll find out. Anyway,

(21:01):
what else have you seen this week, buddy? So this is another Boosey story. This comes from the
day, the record, the other day, and it says, uh, Tipsy Man caught on Ring Doorbell. 50 times at 2 a.m.
before, before being reminded that he moved house. So Cameron, why in KTB, Canon, who live in the
house, who currently live in the house, for an holiday when they woke up to more than 50 Ring Doorbell

(21:24):
notification before, uh, your man realized that he had turned up at his old house. There was a man
in the garden at 2.39 a.m. try to get into the house and footage showed him frantic, frantic the
calling people because he couldn't find these keys, but after a phone call to his mum, he was reminded

(21:44):
that the family had moved house in January and no longer living in property he was trying to get into.
The penny dropped when the man mentioned the conservatory and his mum reminded them that the
current home doesn't have one. Cameron and Katie said they were in hysterics watching the footage taken
earlier this month. Cameron and accountant Trimisco Bride said, we were on holiday in Copenhagen

(22:07):
at the time. So I had no idea this had happened until we woke up the next morning with 50 plus ring
notifications. We watched it all back and he appeared in our garden at 2.39 a.m. try to get in.
He then proceeded to search her garden for 10 minutes before disappearing to her front door
and sat there for another hour before re-emerging in the back garden looking for the key again.

(22:30):
He phoned his friends asking if they had these keys and they were amazed that he wasn't home
as he had left the pub they'd been in over three hours prior to that. Eventually he got
through to his mum who was waiting to let him in and she reminded him that the no longer had a

(22:51):
conservatory. Yeah that's a story that's a story. That's brilliant. So they keep moved house in
January. So almost nine, almost nine months earlier. Maybe he doesn't go out much or you know
get off and maybe that's his first proper night out and all pilots kicked in and then yeah off he

(23:14):
goes home possibly quite possibly but yeah I really made me chuckle. Have you ever like, I mean
I wish he wouldn't do that. You know you haven't moved house that often I suppose.
No I've never even gone to like the wrong door or you know like in a hotel even like
gone to the wrong door like I always think I've got my wit about me. No never been that kind of

(23:39):
drunk or odd. What about you? Have I gone to the wrong door or done anything like that?
I've gone to the wrong door with you actually. I'd remember when I'd been in Glasgow for a couple
of months and you and your mutual friends was getting a lot of coverage tonight came down to visit me
and we had been on the Friday night and remember we were down at I was living in Dunn Drenon
roads and lying side and we had been down at the shack. A few drinks and we walked back up and I think

(24:06):
I think I was distracted by your straight out a call. No fuck the police slash color of them by
that is remix that you had made up and I plus Jenny from the block plus sorry plus Jenny from the
block and I took us to the wrong door. I couldn't work out where my keepin work. I'd never do that long
and I was obviously beguiled by your musical mastery but I have had to like I've got back to

(24:30):
a hotel before after too much a drink and I've had to ask receptions to remind me what my room
number was. Okay quite a few. I had to do that actually this year. I did that but this year I was in
Cambridge so I couldn't remember what my room was to ask them to remind me and it might defend
so literally just got to the hotel checked and dumped my bag and then got back in. That's okay.

(24:52):
I'm sure that happens all the time. That hasn't always been a good excuse for forgetting my number
quite honest but it was this last day. But no I've never thought about going on autopilot to somewhere else
I don't think it hasn't been a thing my brain knows. Not being pished obviously. Yeah, you're

(25:15):
home and beakin usually, social well, right? Yeah, all right. Well anyway that was, yeah that'd be
a bit of a chuckle today, that story. When I saw it, what's your next story this week? My next story is
some of the Scottish sun this week Greg and the headline is not as happy as Larry. The scheme.
Do you remember the TV show, The Scheme Greg which we're going to talk about probably in a minute?

(25:37):
I do, yeah. Marvin from the scheme he was one of the stars. He was raging when he was booted out
of a football stadium before kickoff last week. Yeah, he's a well known Celtic fan but attempted to
watch the hoops from the rivals end when he couldn't get a ticket. But that backfired when he was
clocked by Stewards and escorted out about 10 minutes before the start. Marvin 46 is not as happy as

(26:02):
Larry about the instant and reckons he was treated differently because he's been on the telly. He said
"I'm a Celtic fan" but that's not the point. I wasn't wearing a Celtic top and I wasn't cheering
Celtic on. Well the game hadn't started yet Marvin. At the end of the day I paid money to watch a
game of football and was booted out and not given a refund. They would never do that to most people

(26:23):
but because it's me they feel as if they don't have to treat me the same. It's shocking. Marvin
from Comarnic. Shot to fame on the controversial BBC reality show The Scheme. He revealed his
family are all big Comarnic fans but he's always supported Celtic. That's because he's a junkie.
On Sunday. He headed along to the clash between Comarnic and Celtic at rugby park and filmed

(26:49):
himself before he headed inside. He said "I'm in a good mood today" Marvin from The Scheme
live in the dream. Living the dream in the wrong end. Oh fucking Comarnic Celtic tie.
Will Gail Af and C.Hu Wins made a best team win. But in a video posted on his TikTok page,

(27:10):
Marvin smile disappears when he's approached by stewards. They tell him he has to leave and walk him
out of the ground. One of the crew Kellen tell him to email the club and take it up with him.
Marvin demands to speak to your manager but is ultimately ejected. Celtic went on to win the game
too one. But now Marvin is told fans he's complained and wants his money back because he did nothing wrong.

(27:31):
He said "Nobody around me was in the slightest bit, Bordart. I was just sitting
away in front of the football and start. I could have supported any side. Imagine having the nerve to
support the team my family raised me to support." I would see their point if I was being in
any way antagonistic to their Comarnic fans or if I was cheating in stuff. But I wasn't. I just

(27:55):
wanted to not enjoy a normal day out of football. Marvin's social media followers were split
about the instant. One said "Out of order, get a complaint and another added this is absolutely
crazy. I'm a Celtic fan and have sat in the Comarnic side as most people do it games. Definitely take
it further." But another follower said "Why not think about it? It could have been for your safety as

(28:18):
well." And a critic added "Why don't you buy a ticket for the Celtic end and then it wouldn't happen?"
The scheme focused on life in Comarnic's knocking law in on-thanks states in 2010. Marvin and his dog
bullet were popular with viewers but he struggled with addiction issues. He's now clean and determined
to try and help others avoid making the same mistakes he has, like sitting in the wrong end at football.

(28:42):
Comarnic FC have an approach for comments. So first of all it happens. A way fans or
home fans do sit in the wrong sections because they can't get a ticket. I've never done it myself. I do
remember going to an Aberdeen game and it was a father and son sat like two seats away from me
and were playing hearts and when heart scored they did like a little fist pump and I was like

(29:08):
"we fucking cunt." We ended up winning two-one and as I walked past I did go "ha ha" but it happens. And I
guess it is for a safe day as well but Comarnic against Celtic is not like you've got rangers fans in
their so to speak. But I guess it's a bit stupid being well known in Comarnic as a Celtic fan

(29:31):
and then going into Comarnic's crowd. Somebody is going to spot you. That's probably why they
why they chucked them out. Yeah because you'd be known to be a Celtic fan so that's why. So he was
obviously on the scheme which we were probably never covered on the culture as well. And I mean that

(29:51):
was basically poverty poor wasn't it? It was just about the low income housing scheme in Comarnic
and yeah it was just kind of look at the junkies and people on benefits and this is what happens.
I know and there was other ones as well wasn't there was they benefit street as well as they
bond the dead and Birmingham and yeah I mean I don't know like at the time I you know if I think about

(30:17):
I think you know but the benefit of age and hindsight I don't know why you'd want to sort of turn
I don't know what the objective of shows like the scheme would be or benefits sheets like oh you know
I suppose I would just say well it's an opportunity for people to see how a community and the other
the bottom rung of the ladder sort of navigate life but what it sort of serves to do is to really

(30:40):
kind of turn people against people like Marvin or the other people that were on the scheme because they'll
say oh you know they're just we're just paying for we're just paying for that dogs dog food because
you won't get a job or we're just paying for his drugs or whatever you know like I think I don't
think it's particularly useful to make those types of programs these days you know. No but yet here

(31:01):
we are what 14 years later I think 50 years later still discussing Marvin from the scheme. Yeah well
you know the fact that he's still deferring himself as Marvin from the scheme. Perhaps you know
I don't know you know I mean you know like can I fair play to him if he's if he's really turned

(31:22):
his life around and he's trying to help other addicts and stuff then good luck to him you know what I
mean pretty noble thing to do but yeah I mean I think probably he's been bounced out a rugby park
for his own safety as much as anything else you know. Yeah so keep up the good work Marvin but
sitting there right in next time for God's sakes. Yeah we could really do with your team doing the

(31:46):
business against Dundee United tonight because like at the weekend there was a big far right
anti asylum seeker anti-smobots fucking reform demonstration pushing Glasgow City Centre and I know
a lot of the there was a lot of ranger strips and I have to say I'm the photographs I saw there was
a lot of fucking ranger strips and the people and would serve those ranger fans that turned up at that

(32:11):
demonstration making the fucking Nazi salutes and their shitey pink fucking rangers away zippers
right if they ended up at being at the bottom of the fucking table by the time the 90 minute
scores for Aberdeen tonight. Yeah probably what happened. Yeah you need to give them a bell
neck and say that there's more than just there's more than just points at stake here you know I mean

(32:35):
they teach these people a lesson that karma karma will fucking give consequences to that type of
defecive right wing racist fucking behaviour. Mind you they've been doing it for a hundred years and
that hasn't so far set up apart from when they went bankrupt and became a different club as opposed.
Well there we go we'll see what happens this evening. Have you seen anything else this week Greg?

(32:59):
No no no no how it okay wonderful right well before we go on to what we're going to be talking
about today let's have a little word from our sponsors take a fresh approach to selling
Christmas hampers via country hamper agent and earn high commission selling from our exciting
range of products including our unique fresh hampers for details right to country hampers free post

(33:22):
cut list in west lodian or phone o313333981 now okay so I was your choice this week for this week's
episode Mickey so I'd like to introduce this week's TV show thank you very much Greg so today we
are looking at the 2025 three-part Amazon Prime Thriller starring Martin Comston angely mohendra

(33:44):
solima cloud and james cosmo fear they show follows marie couple martin and rebeca who move their
family from london to their dream home in glasco but things quickly take a dark turn when their
downstairs neighbor yan makes their life a misery and pushes them to their limits facing accusations
that are every parent's worst nightmare and with the authorities refusing to step in maran rebeca

(34:08):
feel they have nowhere to turn to help apart from cosmo finding to film the entirely in glasco
we first find out about this when james cosmo himself told us about a Greg and we've been looking
forward to covering ever since also we don't say this often but since this shows only about seven
eight months old as we record if you haven't seen it watch it it's on amazon prime because we will

(34:32):
be spoiling this very much okay right so Greg this was your first time watching fear wasn't it
it was my first time it it actually slipped from my memory and i yeah yeah i've been looking forward
to it because obviously cosmo's in it and and quite a meaty part for cosmo as well and like i

(34:54):
usually and i'm normally a quite enjoy watching martin comston as well and but you know the fact
very scottish even like even the restaurant is like a real restaurant in glasco like the gannet
and everything else and it's you know it's some lovely architecture in the west end like park
circus and kelvin grove and all that kind of thing so yeah and back enough for notting about it
because it actually wasn't it's on amazon prime in the uk not it's not amazon prime here so i had

(35:20):
to watch it through other means unfortunately but yeah i enjoyed it it was good it was really good
and like it doesn't it kind of feels like it's going one way and then it kind of goes a bit
differently which is quite clever i quite enjoyed it yeah hope it you you'd watched it before right
i had yeah i watched it about six weeks ago and it was it'd been on my list for ages and i had shown

(35:42):
my girlfriend a trailer and we'd always say oh yeah we need to watch that and i think it was like a
Sunday night and it was about 10 20 past night and it was just that time of like it's kind of too early
just to go to bed we're not back tired yet i'd watch something else now so let's watch the first
episode of this and we'll see if it's any good stuck on fear um so yeah we went to bed about 1am

(36:05):
because we watched all three because watch the first it's like well i have to watch the second one now
and then of course i said well we've only got one left so yeah burn through it in a night um and
really enjoyed it it was really good i mean there are there's a lot of talking points about this
and you know we need to go into motives and who we should actually feel sorry for and whatnot but

(36:27):
it is a gripping story and it does take you on different twists and turns and you're expecting one
thing then something else happens and you're other things you're not expecting and yeah it kind of
keeps it going up until the end as well keeps you guessing and yeah it was a it was a really entertaining
a show really entertaining to watch and of course comps and and cause move together a good combination

(36:49):
yeah yeah they do play well together and you know like you do feel like cosmol and
constant could be sort of father and son although cosmol's probably a wee bit too old to be
comps and son and in reality but um comps and scott is big bearded to make him the colder
and i can tell you that's the only reason it has that beard is so he looks older because

(37:14):
he takes it off he still looks like with 16 year old at first appeared another 17 year old at first
appeared and speed 16 you know yeah no i you know there's there's not you know there's this sort of
premise of this i would say is not necessarily an original premise it was seen versions of this
over the years and things like pacific heights or single-in female and you know they some of the

(37:37):
themes but you know they i what i thought they do really well in this is like from the very moment
that we meet the family like martin and rebeca and the the the the kids and stuff there's like
you know the way that the angle that is shot from the music the you know the way with the way we see

(37:58):
the interlis amazing fucking house by the way in the west end of Glasgow there's already a sort of
dread kind of building you know you know i can i i can i can i roughly knew what the story was going to be
in as much as i knew there was going to be a bit of a stalkery neighbor because who kind of goes
out their way it goes out his way it caused problems for the family but i didn't know what his

(38:21):
motives were going to be for doing that you know was him you know so but then this is the you know
and there's all these shots where we just see the characters from outside the house you know
are outside the building the room there's a couple were missed from martin and because
cops and characters martin as well will be built differently we see him shot from outside his office

(38:43):
that he sent or um you know outside the kitchen window outside living in window and all that kind
of thing but with um Jan the Jan sorry we never all every time we see him it's from inside his
apartment you know what i mean um it's yeah it's it's really kind of well made actually in that
sense i thought it's almost like an art film almost you know oh it is some wonderful shots that you

(39:08):
have of as you see it's very up and down you kind of looking down at Jan and he's looking up
always yeah yeah very well done and you're right i didn't think about that but yeah Jan's always
just pictured inside yeah apart from yeah when he is out on the street um already lost a little
on tret he's landlord and all that you know yeah yeah he's in there um i mean he is a very i'm

(39:31):
misunderstood character i mean he's a bit of a creepy character and i was the same as you i knew
the basic premise that it was a case of family moving at home they're having problems with their
neighbor they have to get his diet sorted out and that was as far as i knew but i didn't know you
know the extent it goes into so Jan effectively develops a bit of an obsession with with Rebecca

(39:54):
martin's wife but i mean the character of Jan i mean you're first of all you're expecting a woman
because and they're expecting a woman because they have biscuits from Jan and martin even says at one
point oh well you know she lives downstairs and then when we meet Jan he's got the pizza and stuff
now would you eat biscuits that have just been posted through your letterbox even if you knew

(40:16):
it's your neighbor probably okay all right yeah okay yeah so probably when i was i was going to ask
would you have any issue with your kids having the pizza that a strange man has just appeared with
but probably not either then yeah i probably not oh okay i mean yeah i mean i don't think my
kids would have fallen on the pizza quite as well in ways that the kids doing this to be honest

(40:37):
that a bit or that sort of north Atlantic natural Calvinists especially that everybody had
everything but um but yeah i mean you know i guess so i take people as you find them right
that's fair enough that's fair enough um so yeah he um sort of endures himself to the family
the three feet because then when he goes round to visit rebecker for the first time when she's on a

(40:59):
row and he brings around lentil soup and you know she says how you're really good cook and stuff but
we discover that he's bought all this stuff yeah yeah and is doing that's the first indication you have
of like oh oh something's off with this i mean apart from the fact that he tells her he looks
she looks nice in her sweater i mean like if we start by looking at the characters so that so we

(41:23):
have martin played by martin constant who is an architect there's a suggestion that he might have
over-extended the wee bit by by in this beautiful old either victorian or edwardian
um townhouse in the west end of glass school he saw his he's kind of pinning his hopes on this
his design being selected for a new art center that's being built in glass school six center but he's

(41:52):
the character of martin and i did wonder if this you know maybe it was just constant perhaps
maybe going for it a wee bit but as i've reflected on it i don't think we're supposed to
root for him that much because he's he's quite a sort of a serbic character really you know what i mean
and you know he's he's sort of he's got this weird relationship with these dads because it turned out

(42:16):
there's there was a sister who passed away of cancer and uh cosmol who plays the dad was going to turn
up at the hospital and evidently shoot the doctor to death for not putting the late sister on this
course of uh experimental medication you know and but there's also a feeling that he's a little bit
ashamed of his family and the sort of class that they're coming from because his father's they can

(42:41):
ex-military guy i think as far as we know his mum they've been moaning beated just a housewife like
they don't really explore her character that much beyond her being the mum and seems quite nice
and then the brother played by Daniel Portman he's the one who sort of calls martin out and the fact that
they're so that they're so that Brian and martin are so opposite you know Brian's kind of he's

(43:07):
a tattooist he's a bit more he still lives at home he's a bit more bohemian uh whereas martin sort of
sees himself as a social climber and everything and yet Brian's still evidently still very fond of
his brother even though his brother is a bit of a prick and he kind of calls him out a couple of times
in barricade them particularly when they they have the dinner party that he kind of turns up on

(43:29):
invited to and even that you know martin can't just relax because he's so is this appearances and
how he's perceived and maybe this guy's going to give them the contract to design his new laboratory
and all this kind of thing you know so it may it all makes martin because you know they I kind of
feel when i was watching it well i should be feeling sorry for martin now because Rebecca's left
just taking the kids away because of the situation we are but i kind of didn't feel sorry for him

(43:54):
i just thought well fucking seriously right you prick you know what i mean i mean i've got written
down i know it's martin's a total dick and he really is i did not like the character at all
he he has anger issues because he flies off the handle at so many things and i i just don't
he as you see he's obviously got a problem with his family now his brother Brian is obviously

(44:19):
still very close to mum and dad because he's you know there and he's obviously tells
dad about things later on so he's obviously close but martin has kind of taken himself out and you're
right it's because he's got he thinks he's better than them and this house will signify you know
as his brother says you could have bought four houses round here you know for the cost of that one
and it is very much it's the status thing but as a character as a whole he's just a total dick he

(44:47):
he lies a couple of times to Rebecca in the beginning to begin with like he lies about withdrawing
the tender when he was rejected yeah you know he's fucking good to himself as well that happens and
then he goes and gets the the the taster menu in a glass of champagne for his lunch
you know his wife and kids move out because of the psycho neighbor i'll have a glass somewhere

(45:09):
low in the poor can spinach please it's he's obviously very good to himself but he's lies to
about that he lies to her when he when Jan makes a comment in the the back garden and he goes down
and he says that or is it it's with the letter it's but sorry it's with the letter which will come
back to and he says oh he apologized he won't do again he never speaks to him yeah i get that he's

(45:33):
lying to maybe make her feel better but he's not then we have the whole scene at the barn to hotel
like it's unclear if he was gonna sleep with that woman or if he was like kind of getting a you know
when she was saying we'll meet up later she was thinking about sex he wasn't i don't know that's
really unclear um but yeah i i felt like that was in service to his ego a bit there like i

(45:57):
you know because the opportunity was there to say that you know i'm married flattered you know try
and let the lady down as gently as possible without heart and her feelings or whatever they he doesn't
do that he's got like a big shit eating grin on his face because he's essentially just been proposition
but you're right like it's not clear as to whether they're going through with it or not then obviously

(46:18):
has the ends of having to rush back to glass go because there's a crisis at home and then he tries
to get ahead of things so yeah he's the one why in the name of fuck does he go to child services
ahead of any complaint being made because i don't i mean i guess from skipping ahead there but you know
it makes them look suspicious in terms of doing that of the one who's trying to get ahead start and

(46:40):
that scene that the person taking his details is very suspicious of what's going on in this situation
yeah that was a weird one that because i i i saw it i saw it from his perspective there a wee bit
you know and i was quite surprised because i've got written the mind notes like children's services
are like very unsympathetic you know when he's the lady that is that he that's taking his details

(47:06):
like she keeps giving them a sort of side eye and you know i can't i thought well but then you know
i suppose it's one of those right it's like what would you do in that sort of situation i i
mean i suspect that this correct thing to do is to go to the police and say that you know this is
you know please do whatever you need to do from your side to prove that this isn't going on

(47:27):
you know we'll give you everything all the access that you want to prove it you know what i mean
yeah and you know you you kind of feel that that may have sort of settled it down a wee bit in terms
of their concerns but yet to your point like he doesn't really consult with Rebecca he just
goes straight ahead and starts making these calls and stuff right and that are prepped a lot of which

(47:49):
particularly his last one at the end of the thing turned out to be really poor judgment calls
yeah i think yeah really really stupid in terms of the character and he leaves his laptop open a lot
who the fuck does that when you're putting your laptop down in a chair you'd never leave it open date
always causing me i mean i was about my work laptop i power completely down when i'm not using

(48:11):
you know what i mean he's strange really strange but yeah i i didn't like the character of Martin
i mean obviously it was a great character in terms of you know and it was good to see constant
in that kind of role but yeah i didn't like Martin at all i wasn't rooting for him
Rebecca a hundred percent rooting for and behind her and seems lovely yeah yeah but even she like

(48:31):
you know like she's a bit she's a bit quick like when he comes back and i suppose he can
does it himself because he he comes rushing back and she's like oh you're stinking a booze no it's
obviously at night he could have said yeah we were having a couple of drinks after the thing you know
what i mean but he says oh and well he had one or two you know what i mean this but it's a kick
as we know that it's not true because the suggestion is he sits at the bar for quite a long time

(48:55):
and he's also mingling with other people before that so again the cassette where you said
there they are why tell a fucking stupid by like that why not just be honest and say yeah that you
know i was setting at the bar with some colleagues and we were having a couple of drinks before you called
and i've come straight home you know what i mean so and and i wonder if if he'd said that would
she still have been so pissed off that he'd been tan and drams when she was going through this crisis

(49:19):
or would she have been well you know he's he's washed back to be here you know this you know i don't
know i don't know what should i i'm trying to think what my wife would have done thanks to you in
a bit more reasonable yeah you would think so you're right i think it is a reasonable but if he had
explained himself properly like well yeah i'm going to look for clients i'm trying to
show you i had a few drinks of course it was that type of a thing you know what my story is to

(49:43):
how am i supposed to know this was gonna happen but yeah i can understand her she's just had a
horrific thing happen to her of being accused of terrible things in the street and police turning up
so she's traumatized so i can see from her point like you know why weren't you here but um obviously
there was a reason he wasn't there he was trying to drum up some work and sleep with a woman in 503

(50:05):
i think and i get that's the thing with him you know it you're like well what are his motivations
you know adjacent to what's going on with uh yarn then stairs like what is motivation as far as his
career goes because he's this clear they an ego there right he's had to you know we we hear them
turning down the conservatory job when he when he's in his new office and he's in his new office in his

(50:29):
own right and you think well you you got this big fucking house why would you take an office which is
clearly a walk away from where you live why not just set up one of the rooms in your big house but
obviously it's the status it's the west then business address the west then residential address
no we don't do conservatories you know oh no no we do much bigger projects blah blah and then he

(50:51):
has to eat about a humble pie when he realizes that he's not getting him he's not getting the the
big job that he's bidding for you know it's it's all that kind of thing it's it's like you know what is
what is he motivated by it he he won't have his dad come to the house because he said oh my
dad'll just find something wrong with it but there's nothing there's nothing in cosmos performance

(51:11):
just that ever points to this hyper critical uh character in fact when we first see him and he's
with the grand kids he's a fucking brilliant grander you know apart from when he gets his guns out so it
makes it a lot of self-doubt he'll be a bit then but before that he's patient he's having fun with the
kids you know he's created you get the feeling that he's just fucking delighted when these little kids

(51:33):
are around you know what I mean then he gets to be grandad I can only presume and obviously this
is something they don't go into enough I think and it is a slight flaw in the show because you're a bit
confused in terms of this relationship with Cosmo and and yeah and you're kind of thinking why what
they fall night out by I mean I the only thing I could really ascertain is that I guess when Martin

(51:55):
was younger he was an excellent marksman and a good shooter and I guess his dad was just so happy with
this but then he just decided to pack it in so you get the impression because Compton does say
when he's with the grand kids oh yeah dad was very good but he packed it in but caught in you know she
was yeah so then his focus has gone on cotton and focusing on her with the shooting so Martin was

(52:20):
probably cast aside and always with a bit of a snidey like well your sisters do you miss your
sisters one this you know if only you'd kept it up I know you had to go and play with dolls or you know
start drawing buildings or something family or Lego so I do think there is there's something that's
happened there but then of course when you see the flashback of Martin stopping Cosmo in the hospital

(52:43):
with them with the gun you know he's still speaking to him like it's like "dad this isn't you know
the right thing" it's almost then something's happened after that he's like "I just want out" and
he goes mental when Cosmo's showing the grand kids the gun and I don't want them anywhere near
I don't want them to fucking near guns and like well you grew up around them you know so did your

(53:04):
sister and you've had a healthy kind of well you presume childhood you know it's not maybe he
associates it with the death of his sister and he still hasn't got on over that he hasn't grieved
properly it's unclear for me what the situation is there I thought that he had moved away from
guns when we see the flashback of the younger Cosmo Ben it's just been turned down for emotion in

(53:27):
the army and it's like he's thinking of shooting himself and young Martin says "dad you know don't"
I thought there was a scene with him in Brian where he says you know that's what kind of pipping off
guns was when I was gonna shoot himself I thought it might be wrong so it was like like last week that
I watched it did we think I was I thought that was unclear whether Cosmo was gonna shoot himself or

(53:49):
he was loading the gun and going shoot oh maybe that was what he was gonna do yeah yeah I don't
think Cosmo would yeah I it was about unclear but it was like he got past over a promotion came
home loaded the gun it was as if he was gonna go and shoot the you know who ever passed him over
yeah maybe that's it maybe that's it and then the next I guess the next talent character who

(54:10):
have touched on briefly already is Rebecca played by Angelie Mohindra who is who they broadly is
a great character you know what I mean and like I've seen that I thought was quite good between those two
when she decides that she wants to go back to work my I initially thought that Martin was gonna be

(54:30):
what are you know but he's actually like all right well okay well you know we'll work it out you know
now I was think to myself but how much is that him being happy that she's picking up her
cadet again and stuff for her or how much of it is it because he's not getting this big windfall
from the project anymore and he's not gonna make you know be kind of needs her really to start

(54:52):
kicking in because he's he's gone over his means for this house and office and everything you're
right initially I would have thought supportive husband but as we know about Martin's character no
you're right it probably is because he's thinking right great that'll pick up a bit of the shortfall
I can continue to try and go for tenders and stuff and see what happens yeah I think you're right

(55:12):
about that yeah but she's great and you know what I mean she's I've not seen her in a lot of stuff
well I think I have seen her in stuff over the years just being smaller parts I've never seen her in
as big a part as this as this role that she that she takes in fear and she's a good actor
again really good actor especially in the sort of the moments when she's feeling fear or she's

(55:37):
threatened whatever you know there's no sort of it's all quite practical you know what I mean there's
no kind of hysterics and she's often the kind of voice of mediator although she's the one who
is the most directly creeped out by Jan because she's the one that's had some super thunders
she's spent a bit of time with them you know she's she's also the one that says right well let's

(55:57):
think it through let's become you know blah blah blah blah blah you know and even when Jan sort of
steps things up in his little campaign with a letter and everything you know she's still
whilst constant is becoming emotional in those nes temper and everything she's still the one that's
like you know she's dragging them away from the kids to talk about it and she's you know and even when

(56:19):
you know when she should be that what is what's the kind of breaking point is that when she realizes
that no it's quite it's it's Martin that realizes that the all the cameras are yeah being hacked
I can't remember what the breaking point was that but she when she decides to take the kids away
and everything it's very this is what needs to happen it's practical you know it's I mean it's
effectively it's the when Jan confronts her in the streets with the police oh yeah and

(56:45):
and she's got the kids yeah yeah he cares for the s that's right and then Martin comes back but he's
drunk and she leaves in the morning in terms of like with the kids and then she calls him and basically
says there's the other thing you had a voicemail last night oh yeah which is a weird thing because then
when he said he dials says save message so she's you're meant to assume she's listened to that voicemail

(57:07):
message when she came down at night so it was hard it so knows but then it's never mentioned ever
again that's a weird one yeah yeah but then the next time you see her is when she's packing the kids
in the car and she's I guess she's dropped the kids off at school in the morning she's come back home
or has stayed away from the house that day and has thought I can't take it I can't stay in this house

(57:31):
so has just decided to pack up the kids and go to to Anne's house yeah yeah yeah um but yeah
she's you know of all the characters in it she's the most sympathetic character I find
apart from the kids I mean I have to say like the two young actors playing the kids are great you know
I mean they really feel they really feel like they're are they actually brother and sister and I

(57:53):
didn't check that but if they're not then they do a really good job of pretending to be the brother
and sister but you know it's not until the sort of last the sort of toward the end of the
the last episode that maybe you find your sympathies lying in an unexpected place which we'll get to
obviously but um yeah like she's definitely a hard and moron they a hard and moron beater and I

(58:16):
agree with what you were saying earlier I think we could have done with just a wee bit more family
history for Martin you know I mean just just a little bit more just to sort of flesh it flesh it
out you know what is his problem with his dad because you know his dad they will we see Cosmo
when he's own and stuff he's he's clearly disturbed right you know but we don't you know is he

(58:39):
disturbed by the loss of his daughter is that the main thing or is it you know they they kind of
lost relationship with his son something that he's experienced in these years in the army you know
what I mean like I think Cosmo is fucking great in every scene he's in and for me I think he's great
but I would have liked to have seen a little bit more exposition is to just what

(59:02):
why is he so disturbed if it is because the the death of the daughter then let's talk this go in a bit
more detail on that you know and you know rather than just we don't even see Miguel as all
me mentioned earlier when he's he's going all he's got in the hospital apparently intending to
gun down the doctor you know I guess you're just meant to imply that the first sign of trouble or

(59:23):
danger his first instinct is to get the gun because when he's passed over promotion when
corandise and then the situation that unfolds you know in the last episode that's for some reason
and and I they just pass it off basically is he's ex-military so that's the reason why is like a
sweeping generalization I suppose if well he must be a gun nut so yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure

(59:47):
because like the kind of I made a note that you know what let this talk about sort of the character
that Cosmo plays you know he plays Martyn's father so he I made him know that as good as the scenes are
when he turns up at the house to help Martin solve this problem that he's having with the and down the

(01:00:07):
stairs you kind of there's a feeling that Cosmo's been waiting for something like the character's been waiting
for something like this but we'll be gosh up saying Cosmo because that's the actor's name not the
character's name but he's been waiting for something like this you know what I mean the he needs he needs
this as much as Martin needs it because you know it has frustration or whatever has the reason he

(01:00:30):
sold his sturbed or whatever he he this is for him this is catharsis it's solving a problem for
these a strange son and gets to shoot somebody to death right to solve it and he gets to go to prison
quite happily out of an old man I've got a prison but well bad I could do this for my son and all this
kind of stuff but again I think that's why we needed a bit more a bit more background on him you know

(01:00:52):
because this the click that we're without that background they're quite unusual motivations
it's a very strange thing to leap to and you're right you could say it's like well I've already lost
one child I don't want to lose you but Cosmo's Cosmo constant Martyn's not in a real danger is
such I mean these claims can be disproved it you know as as we find out it would have come out anyway

(01:01:17):
and it's it's a case of like well none of this needed to happen really but Cosmo's first instinct is
yeah well this man he doesn't muck around this man has to die tonight yeah it's there's no light well
look I'll go round and put the shits up him yeah I'll wave Gunny around and you know we'll just
get this all sorted yeah is is is first thing is this man has to die yeah straight to murder

(01:01:41):
it stops now right now
not that
needs to be done you do the deed I take the blame

(01:02:05):
what come with him I'll be right there all right do everything either way
that piece of excrement down there is going to be dead in the next two minutes
and I'll go to jail okay fair enough could we do it do you know post some dog shit through his

(01:02:29):
letterbox or something first but no straight to the killing okay fair enough yeah because there's
the sense that no because Jan has revised that the fact he's hacked into the cameras and this and
he had had no idea it was so easy to hack into devices just by getting into the router you know
what apparently is if you're a if you're a Bitcoin expert you can do it if you mean he realizes that

(01:02:54):
he that that's been rumbled that's kind of the end really for him in you know and we find out
that there were some steps that he was going to take because he knew that he was unhinged and
he had done it they had done this similar thing before and it's a really tough upbringing and all
this kind of thing so you know they get the fact that the the the Cosmos characters name is

(01:03:16):
Alan by the way the fact that Alan takes him like the most extreme action and can
oppresses Martin and taking the most extreme action is you know because I jump maybe three episodes
is maybe one episode to little for this maybe she'd be in a four or five part or maybe and we
could have maybe fleshed out a wee bit more although I was obviously I'm glad when things are

(01:03:39):
short obviously because you know in both for the podcast and in private but it's I think you know
just the flesh of these characters maybe like one more hour one more 50 minute episode might have
helped us out of it you know I know what you mean like because I was happy as well it's three parts
it seems like a nice kind of yeah yeah I can do that but I would have liked a little bit more back

(01:04:02):
story as well you're right it's funny because in my notes at the very beginning I have the cast
list and I have written Alan Cosmo and throughout the entire A&M I notes he's just Cosmo like I do
not mention Alan once I think it was because I got into the flow of Martin as well but I did
have to stop myself a few times I did type Compton but yeah Compton and Cosmo but yeah Alan so yeah

(01:04:27):
he decides that just basically this piece of excrement has to die yeah he won't swear he's got
his principles but yeah he's a militiaman he will happily commit murder and commit murder of course
of Jan because it's the only way out so Jan played by Sol and McLeod I didn't really know him

(01:04:49):
he's been in a pink the rising and Outlander and House of the Dragon but I haven't seen him in
anything before I didn't recognize I didn't recognize him I watched House of the Dragon because I do
like a game of thrones and I did enjoy House of the Dragon and when I read the character they played
I couldn't remember them it was it's not it's a sort of supporting character but I I thought he

(01:05:12):
was excellent in this because you know he does play the part with a I guess it I guess you know we find
out his the characters history and everything else the part had to be played quite sensitive they
can't just be like the creepy guy down the stairs or the cycle down the stairs or whatever you know
what I mean so he you know especially in the scene with the landlord and you know when he I think

(01:05:37):
one of the scenes that he has with Martin the thing is last conversation with Martin when Martin
thinks that he's going to do the right thing and he's going to write to the police and say that it was
all a mistake all that sort of stuff you know I thought he was excellent in this they really really
good what did you think of him I thought he was fantastic absolutely fantastic he just kind of the
the way the creepiness just ramped up ever so slightly and you're thinking okay he's this is

(01:06:02):
where it's going then because he's very nervous and and get ready to begin with and then you see him
with Rebecca and he takes round a lentil soup and he seems okay just a bit shy awkward and then he
pays her a compliment saying you know the color looks lovely on you and you know she takes the compliment
oh thank you and that's it then we see the the empty food containers and it's flat and you're like

(01:06:26):
okay something's not right here yeah so you then have the awkwardness of the
Rebecca trying to return the favor going around with him in a slice and he's like oh yeah oh I
invite you in but because you guess he's you know living in a bit of a hovel so he he goes out to
to see her in the garden and when she's hanging up her her silky nightwear it's when he comes out

(01:06:47):
whether you musk you musk like lovely in those two and then just goes back in and now that's the immediate
creepy you're like okay yeah things are getting bad but then he sends the letter in the flowers and
the letter just kind of goes you know to the extreme in terms of saying you know I like thinking of you
and those things you were hanging up and I enjoyed looking your vanilla slice and a

(01:07:09):
you know vanilla slice is what tips comps are over the edge where he's reading the letter he took my
photo can I take yours you invited me in and when I said you look lovely you said you liked that
so did I I like watching you I like thinking of you in those things you were hanging up

(01:07:31):
and I like she had a secret squeaky thing and when I like to have another slice I wanted to
throw out a way but if the children saw me do it and then they saw me do that and that's what you
talking about what vanilla slice well he brought me some soup and then he's liking you have
another slice yes I took him a cake as a gesture and this you know they can again I think this is
where the script is really quite strong because you know like when you when we find out that Yan has

(01:07:55):
been they can physically and emotionally abused all through his young life and he's prone to having
these sort of manic episodes when he you know with things can trigger him like when you wait when
you hear the kids playing and all that sort of stuff and he here's the kids playing with Martin and
Rebecca obviously the the noises they're making are bringing back memories of abuse that he's

(01:08:19):
suffered you know what I mean and you know they can when you when those scenes between him and Rebecca
when you when you when you realize that you sort of realize well this is a guy who spends most
of his time by himself you know the only other the only people that we see him talk to apart from
Martin and Rebecca are when he meets his landlords at the launch ret and when he talks to somebody

(01:08:40):
on the phone about the Bitcoin business that he's involved in so here he's obviously somebody who
doesn't you know at the very least doesn't have great social skills when it comes to talking to
women and you know and and maybe is not in the vicinity of a lot of women is particularly attractive
women like Rebecca you know and you know so it you're sort of presented with this kind of tragedy

(01:09:02):
at the end when you spend most of it sort of wanting as much as Martin is not particularly sympathetic
character you still want the situation to stop for the family right and you want Yann to be punished
for what he's doing and everything else maybe not short to death but you must you know but you want
him to be punished and when you're the story confront you with this big part of Yann's character

(01:09:26):
you're kind of you know it's really it does sort of bring out a fairly surviving fairly surprising
sympathetic reaction you know and that's from his performance I think as some Sody McLeod's
performance you know that draws that out completely when you do it's the end and it gets read out in
court his background and yeah instantly you're like oh fuck you know and it's you're never sure

(01:09:49):
what's going on with the character you know something's not right because of the way he's reacting
to the kids screaming and playing and you can see how you know things could be misconstrued from
his point of view in terms of you know there is a lot I mean the kids made a lot of noise but
yeah it's done quite carefully in a way when they're saying about you know getting in the bath and

(01:10:10):
about paying them £10 and things like that so you can kind of see how he's maybe got that
but you don't go anywhere because they're on their way they're coming in there so you have to
you have to stay where you are what are you doing get away and why are you even here you've left
child abuse up what this woman interfered with those two girls just now what do you have
reported at the police are coming you there you're okay you're okay you're okay you're

(01:10:33):
not doing this what I have to what you sent me love letters and then you do this okay when you do
things you do not choose me again do me here she was making the calls off and do things oh my god
there's even one point and I don't think Yann's there at the time but it's just after Yann's gone
back in in the beginning after the pizza and Martin and Rebecca are talking in the garden and

(01:10:58):
the kids are just there and they say basically like oh get an early night clearly implying they're
gonna have sex and it cuts the two kids looking at each other and giggling and I'm like eh that's
like a place how what it's it's almost like the kids have been like reacting to like hey they're
gonna get down in dirty tonight so you know yeah yeah it that seemed very odd to me but I can see

(01:11:21):
and at one point I did think because of the some of the clips and the way it was playing and obviously
they were the triggers for Yann I did think for a second he was gonna like put together a tape of
you know yeah yeah kind of doctor the worst bits and then hand that to the police but he does
go to the police and writes a letter and puts it through their door saying that they're

(01:11:42):
abusing the kids and doing these unspeakable things and it's true that is kind of every parent's
nightmare in terms of something like that happening you're just to your best and I think Rebecca
brings it up perfectly when you know Martin's got a child services and she's trying to explain
she's saying like what are they gonna think like when the kids sometimes get into bed with us and

(01:12:03):
like when we have no clothes on or we get in the bath together and it makes you think like that's
just a minefield something that's so innocent and sweet with your child and it can be twisted in such
a way yeah yeah for sure anything is that we do you know there's a couple of moments that we
see Yann particularly just before a confrontra becaue when he is genuinely you know he's coming from

(01:12:26):
a place of genuine concern because he's panicking and he's sweating and all that kind of thing is a few
moments as well when he's just hearing what's going up stairs and we see him react that way and it's
you know it is it's coming from a genuine albeit misguided and incorrect but it's coming from
like a genuine place of what's going on up there because of what he suffered himself when he was younger

(01:12:48):
but yeah I mean I guess you know I mean I guess that's it is like for any parent that's an absolute
nightmare you know that happening because you know they but I guess the social services or whoever it is
I mean they're whether it's an incorrect or a false accusation or an accurate one they're
priorities going to be you need to make sure the kids are safe which means speak into the kids without

(01:13:11):
the parents being there and whatever and that's you know that must be a fairly horrible thing to
experience for a parent particularly well you know especially when there's nothing you know nothing
like that has gone on it's all been a misunderstanding I think the yeah absolutely horrifying thing
the worst thing you could possibly imagine to accuse somebody of and it must have been such a fear of

(01:13:34):
like what the hell how's this how's it come to this what are we gonna do and then obviously you can't
talk to him because he's never answering the door you can't threaten him in any way Martin does
lose his temper at one point and bangs a plant pot and you know thankfully the same police officer's
turn up and I thought that was a you know they were great with him in terms of basically just calm

(01:13:55):
down all right like won't take this any further but just go in and shot and I think that could have
got a lot worse I suppose but Jan lives a very simple life we see his kitchen he hasn't got much in it
not much furniture but he's got a fucking arcade machine in his lounge so they're not pretty
stuff is I'm pretty well off the old bitcoin right it looked like I don't know is that asteroids

(01:14:18):
or something it's I don't know but it looked like a yeah it just said arcade what I wasn't sure
what it was if you have an arcade machine what one would you have she fight her too probably or
the old Atari X wing fighter attacking a death star game with the kind of green lines and all that
from the early 80s because that's a bellter um but you said something and I made a note here um

(01:14:43):
to ask you about this so you know you said there's that fear of the kids thing so obviously the
program is called fear but um you know like I was thinking so what are we to take what what
we to interpret the title of fear what is it apply to in the story because there's a few options is
is the fear Jan's fear because of what's happened to him in the past what he thinks is going upstairs

(01:15:09):
as fear for the kids is it the fear of Martin and Rebecca this fear of you know perhaps ultimately
losing because of the other kids they but where they're temporarily are temporarily are permanently
you know what I mean that's they they it's quite interesting and I think maybe you're just supposed
to draw your own conclusions but where would you think I think it's definitely a triple layered

(01:15:34):
it is initially you're thinking it's the fear of the the parents Martin and Rebecca exactly as
you said of what's gonna happen and losing the kids because they are scared and they are terrified
of what's gonna happen then I think it's exactly as you've said as well Jan and the fear he had so
I think it's very double layered there they're both going through fear and as we see in the last episode

(01:15:57):
Cosmo is obviously fearful of losing a bullet because he's unloading and loading that gun and
he's bullets all the time it's all he's ever doing it Cosmo is the fear that he's gonna die without
getting a chance to fucking shoot somebody you know I mean but yeah I think the the title works
on on both those levels in terms of it's it's the fear of Martin and Rebecca but it is also Jan's

(01:16:19):
fear so and I think that's why it flips and you know at the end you it's Jan that you're feeling sorry
for with that right right yeah yeah interestingly I mean the the this based on a story called fear by
I think I maybe a Dutch or maybe certainly Scandinavian writer German German okay but the script is

(01:16:40):
written by Mick Ford who played Archer and scum you know the kind of the one that's
rebelling against the system by claiming to be Islamic and claiming to be vegetarian and then just
just did all these things to be a pain in the arse and but I I knew that he'd he'd sort of
gone behind the camera since he acted and scum but it's a good script right it's a really good script

(01:17:04):
you know I'll just be doing good to see a little bit a wee bit more exposition perhaps to build
out the characters and it was good to see Maureen Beatig so remember when she was in tag casualty
I bet it's a bit of a crush on her when I was younger interesting casualty because she's
because obviously she was a lot younger than me she's got like incredibly piercing blue eyes
and her dad Johnny Beatig used to present you as a bit of a celebrity in Scotland in the 80s and

(01:17:32):
before that before I was born and stuff but I remember he used to present a quiz show he ended up
being in River City like to ward the end of his career in his life he was an actor in River City but
he was one it was that's what I could template of guys like Ricky Fulton and Stanley Baxter
I was going to Stanley Baker and I was going to have him in Stanley Baker mixed up and yeah

(01:17:53):
so but yeah they shit I don't like to tell us you know about Maudahar so I don't think we've had
heard of anything on the spot in the swally before have we no I don't think so no and similarly
links in very well someone else we haven't had much of and has a famous parent is Daniel Portman
who plays his brother Brian yeah his um his dies um I don't remember but it's Rodonneke

(01:18:19):
Rodonneke because they were both they were both in Game of Thrones like Rodonneke was in the first
two series of Game of Thrones but he played a character called Pod is Sun Daniel and he was
in it pretty much all the way through okay and survive and survives one of the few series one
characters to survive to the the end of the program so now it comes you know I've had three episodes

(01:18:44):
building up this and how is it going to be solved cause most first instinct is essentially
just we need to shoot this guy and they do they shoot you and it's a bit unsatisfying isn't it like
he's put you through hell would you know what I draw that out a bit more just bang that's it
I mean I never felt like murdering somebody before for like cake

(01:19:06):
so I'm not sure but I did wonder you know they the ending of it so then the ending of it
and this is the big spoiler here folks so if you know um but it's not constant who shoots
we we're originally there to believe that it's constant who shoots Jan but we find out
cause more sorry cause more but we find out um toward the very end that it was actually

(01:19:28):
constant who ran in the last moment and took the gun from his dad and did the deed but um
cause more is resolute and taken the blame and there is like a wee nod to it before they before they
tell you the twist because well after we think constant so cause more was shot and Martin runs down

(01:19:49):
the stairs so we were led to think that Martin's ran down the stairs because of the gunshot
and cause more was given the gun a weakling and I noticed that and I thought it was a weird
because he's gonna take the blame you know and then it becomes clear as to why he's doing that because
Martin's fingerprints are on it but I don't know what is the you know usually there's a bit of a

(01:20:13):
payoff for these things or a bit of a bit of morality or a lesson or whatever but I'm not really sure
how were expected to feel at the end of this and maybe that's by design maybe it's we're supposed to
feel a bit challenged at the end of it but basically the end of it has Martin and
Rebecca taking the kids for a walk in Calvin Grove Park Rebecca evidently has tippled that because

(01:20:35):
of the way that Martin's behaved about this then a bit quiet that he's the one that's done the murder
so she kind of tipples that he's the one that's done it but you know she goes she goes he's
hand away holding stuff and she's like you know it's fine it'll be all right and I understand why
you did it and everything else nicely well but what's happened in real terms is like a deeply disturbed

(01:21:01):
victim of abuse who was about to book himself into a clinic to get support because he knew that
he was wearing truly off the fucking tracks has been shot to death by a guy driven by ego with a
bad temper and the name's been taken by another fairly disturbed character

(01:21:23):
and it's like well you know was was there there's no real morality to it you know the m m m m m m m m m m m maybe
where maybe we're supposed to be challenged as I say I don't know I don't know yeah I don't know
how you're meant to feel at the end because there's some kind of impact reeling that okay young was a
highly distressed individual then as the reveal that oh my god it was Martin that shot him yeah

(01:21:45):
Cosmo and then he confesses she says she knew and yeah I think you're meant to think right well that's
their lives fucked anyway so yeah I give it she'll move out with the kids within three months
she'll be shagging David our boss within six months happily ever after yeah Comston will be swinging
by a rope from his ecological place in Ryker that he's built but he spent all these money in the

(01:22:12):
granite with like small measures of wine and big glasses yeah that was a tiny portion of wine
I know is that as well I was like that's an awful little shitty glass summer low you've got there is that
for you taste definitely wasn't a home poor was it no but I did read that the granite is unfortunately
closing down at the end of this year oh no yeah sadly I saw it when I was looking for stories for

(01:22:37):
this week's episode of the of the swallow but but again coming back to Comston pull in the trigger
or Martin rather pull in the trigger like it's like well why does he do that because his dad is
going off to basically solve his problem for him and is it is it like ego coming into it or that
temper coming into it you know if anybody's going to fucking shoot this guy it's gonna be me you know

(01:22:58):
it's that you know is that is it is it is ego that's driving that action because you know we see him
up the stairs and he's sort of hyperventilating a wee bit and not really doesn't you know what to do
you know we're given the impression that when you realize he's that these dad is definitely going
down the stairs to commit murder he's kind of let's say he's sort of paralyzed by his his fear

(01:23:21):
perhaps or his anxiety and yeah he's the one that has to do it because it could quite easily have
just not right and that he's that do it and told the truth to the police and everything else but he
you know he's the one that should be in prison again it's unclear as to whether it's Cosmo does
to have the speech with them you know in terms of you you have to do it if you don't do it I'll do it

(01:23:46):
but you know you do it and I'll take the blame either way the piece of extra man dies tonight and
it's it's very much I think it is Martin's it's almost like I don't know if it's is ego or if it is
that he's like a catlin my dad do this I've got to be a man yeah to show him I'm a man and I will kill
yeah yeah I am man I kill yarn so yeah yeah it's very strange again something that could have

(01:24:13):
probably been explored I the more I think about it yeah I mean I have written here as well because
obviously we're thinking in terms of expanding it a bit you know I'd just look it is this plays
into a lot of themes as well this show fun it doesn't explore them enough I think like PTSD
mens mental health smart smart devices listening in and the paranoia behind that but yeah

(01:24:36):
and Cosmo went his PTSD and what he's been going through but it doesn't explore them enough
and it also doesn't explore why Martin is such a dick with anger issues yeah yeah I mean I think maybe
it partly does that with the the social climber aspect of his character you know he wants to be

(01:24:57):
upper middle upper class kind of guy you know I'll be even with the big house and the I mean that
that Mercedes that the drive is a fucking I don't think an old an older model shall we say but
yeah but yeah that maybe you know maybe that is supposed to explain a way part of his some
of the some of his motivations perhaps but yeah yeah I'm not sure they can mean I do quite like the fact

(01:25:19):
and again I think it sort of comes back to this the kind of art house cinema feel that quite a lot
of this program has and because a lot of those art house movies especially some of the sort of
classic ones from like the 90s like the Hane for example you do go away from like it's like the
endings are rarely happy you know what I mean or yeah me endings like they do you do tend to

(01:25:44):
press stop at the end of the movie thinking fucking hell you know what I mean they so I did like that
element of it and maybe that's maybe a big you know we mentioned that the it's kind of European cinema
right maybe that's the influence of the the German author you know I mean you know I think maybe
in the UK and the US there's maybe more of a need to have things tied up neatly yeah there's I think

(01:26:06):
the sensibilities in Europe are a little different right you know they like they want these guys want
you to feel challenged you know stuff like they got on with the dragon tattoo and stuff like that
you know they're like the the the first movie that was remade it does sort of explain everything
away and it sort of it kind of ties everything up but you're right if you read the if you read the books
you know like there's like the characters particularly the main character I mean the author puts her

(01:26:33):
through absolutely fucking hell in that trilogy and it's not something I think that we are prone to do
like in the UK or certainly not the US you know in the US have to have that holy wood ending or you
might not get your movie made right your TV show ever I think last person to do it was David
Chase with the sopranos and people weren't fucking mental but that last episode of the sopranos you

(01:26:56):
know because it doesn't the characters you're he leaves you to decide what happens to Tony and
Carmella and the family and the other actors he doesn't wrap it you know when we leave the sopranos
Sylveos and a fucking coma you know he's one of the the that we never find out if he survives or not
and that's unusual for particularly American drama yeah so maybe that's why Amazon haven't

(01:27:22):
haven't put this on in other countries maybe they're like well they are audience season these other
countries aren't going to be able to deal with the ending you know I don't know possibly they just
won't understand it or won't get it or yeah they'll be frustrated by it they did you watch the
documentary about David Chase that came out this year yes did yeah yeah yeah he gets I think he

(01:27:43):
gets quite pissed off like any any any I mean obviously in this he's obviously expecting it because the
documentary is about him and and the show but I think if people just come up to him in the street and
ask him I think he get or you know I think it's about fucking pissed off yeah I don't fucking know
you know I mean I just just end that when we ended it well yeah I wonder if he does live to regret

(01:28:05):
that decision I don't know yeah but yeah I think you could be right that's probably why the way things
are left a bit loose and yeah I mean I like that kind of in general but I thought we could have
went into a bit more detail in terms of exploring the things a cosmol it's just prolific as ever like
he was in this he was in night sleeper which you still have not watched it no it's good cosmol is great

(01:28:29):
in it and he's been in three episodes at Karen Perry which we seem to be mentioning almost every
episode on the podcast now he was in a show called hostage with saran joeans and he has four upcoming
projects listed on his IMDB so he is not slowing down at all certainly not I mean I have all this

(01:28:51):
cosmol now that's a quick check so boy it made 47 so he's he's coming up for 80 right yeah well yeah
yeah seven seventy eight or something yeah yeah yeah so he's he's knocking on he's knocking on 80 but
yeah I love the fact that because certainly even when we were grown up he just seems to be in
vones of different you know just seems to be on in in the tv or in films all the time we were talking

(01:29:13):
about highlander earlier he's obviously small like a it's got a great part in highlander and I'm just
the the the first paragraph of his his Wikipedia not his IMDB is that known for his character work
he's played sporting roles in films such as highlander brave heart train spotting Troy the
chronicles of narnia wonder woman Ben Hurr sons of anarchy game of thrones his dark materials like

(01:29:37):
a lot of the huge fucking franchises there especially like his dark materials and game of thrones
you know they're in sons of anarchy right they massively successful tv programs and then you've
got this adjacent prolific um movie career and he was in the in the amazon primes uh jack ryan as well
with your man off the american office has married to a lovely lovely Emily blonde oh yeah

(01:30:01):
yeah John krasinski that's him yeah I like him yeah I like him as well yeah he's great um so they know
I like that a bit cause but and despite being incredibly busy still has time to record a weekami
offer you're truly my birthday it's just a wonder of course more recent absolute legend but yeah
I was just so nice to see that you still just not not slowing down not stopping just continue doing

(01:30:27):
stuff it's brilliant I still laugh when I think back to that story we had about imposing is
Swiss army name because he could take it on a plane right old man think it do yeah it's just
all it's got his Swiss army name in his pocket in case oh he needs to get his v scissors out or his v

(01:30:49):
screwdriver part out or let me drag you blade out or something you know or the toothpick and you
never know when you need to open a good old part a tin or something if you're out and about
I didn't realize that um his his act his father had been an actor as well as was the actor James
Copeland who could not know that about co-op it Cosmo hmm oh there you go there you go let

(01:31:10):
myself down a bit by not having that bit of trivia up my sleeve um anyway do you have anything else
on fear that you would like to have a chat about uh no I mean I think I took but overall I really
enjoyed it I mean what's the moral of this story like don't let you're unhinged gun loving dad
convince you to shoot your downstairs neighbor who's reported you for sexual offenses against your kids

(01:31:33):
is that the moral of this story I don't know yeah I think so or maybe like be a bit nicer to your
downstairs neighbor just until you find out what kind of person they are you know or what they've
been through that's a very good point yeah you should judge big bites cover etc or something along
those lines that's a very valid point yeah yeah yeah I think you're right but yeah overall really

(01:31:56):
enjoyed it I thought it was great I've watched it twice now and yeah enjoyed it both times really
enjoyed it yeah no I enjoyed it as well I really did uh it was one of those ones that I would have
had had late to have got my good lady waifeng to watch as well so I think she would probably have
enjoyed it but I don't know she's she's busy trying to get her business off the ground at the

(01:32:16):
minute she doesn't have time to watch TV um but anyway but I think I think it may be one that might
revisit with her when she's got a bit more time so I think she'll like it yeah fantastic sounds good
okay so uh it's time to put fear through or coveted um swallow awards um the first award then
as always is the Bobby the Barman award for the best pub I thought the bar and the hotel looked

(01:32:41):
all right I could see you sitting there for you well having a couple of beers yeah so that was
all right I mean it's that or the Finniston which looked I mean it's a coffee spot by day yeah a
bar at night because Anne does she say she takes her dates there gannet more of a restaurant but
yeah hotel bar works for me next thing is the James Cosmo award for being everything Scottish I mean

(01:33:02):
there's only one could there can be only one winner there exactly it's a captain Cosmo the Jake
McQuillan your tease-out award I feel it is only really one option there as well where did you go for
Jan getting shot in the heart I'm feeling good you go where did you go for I went with Martin
stamping on that fucking robot that thing we're in the bin long before now if I'd been the parent

(01:33:23):
in that house if you realize that um somebody was spying on you through it or would just just
got in your tits with the kids because they might just get on my tits with the kids being there
it's not right I'm annoying little fucking thing next then is the Francis beg be a ward for
gratuitous language the one that the my one is there there's a few F's and Jeff's in this but the

(01:33:45):
one that is uh Martin's rage manifesting in the shouting of mother fucker which doesn't but it
just doesn't sound right in a Scottish voice does it actually no it's a shame because I've got that
as well but it's I've got the the first part because when he sees the laptop lights on it does work in a
Scottish accent when he goes you fucker yeah yeah yeah and then he shouts mother fucker which doesn't quite

(01:34:10):
work you should have you know shout it you you can't sack or something that can't sack yeah next
then is the you immigrant award for gratuitous unity we do have to see constant having an angst
within shower you know didn't go down without a must have he must have just bulked up and he was
because there's a few shots of him like just out the shower or with a shirt off or in the shower

(01:34:33):
there's one part where he's just out the shower and he's drying himself when he's talking to Rebecca
and it's very realistic because he is you could tell the towel he's like cleaning dry and right in
between his arse crack the way his hands go in and I was like you know something that's like
I don't know if that's the way it was intended to look but it's it's realistic that it's but he's
definitely really going in there to to dry it's good yeah it's good yeah does that yeah I think the

(01:34:59):
in the scenes when you know they have that scene particular like I don't think to myself you
given the old pictorials are you bit of a flex there yeah you know you want to want us to know that
you've been you've been hitting the old gym next then is archetypal Scottish moment I went with
purely Brian speaking about the house and saying how that Martin could about three or four

(01:35:21):
around the pain and tear here for the price of that it's just something very Scottish about that
wanting to save a penny or something or say anything you could about you could about this in terms
of I and that guys yeah but yeah what about you was you go for please don't say child abuse and
no that happens everywhere I put getting your mad that sort of your problems that's actually that's

(01:35:47):
yeah perfect that is actually the answer yeah getting your mad dad yeah I'll go with that yeah yeah
and then last then is the the big time award who wins fear for you well who did you go for this
I mean I went with Cosmo just because it was good to see him can I guess I'll get a lot of screen time

(01:36:12):
and it's good to see him can I get in and so they quite are emotional and sensitive and they are
drove you know it's maybe you know we we owe I think probably the last thing we had them on like that
was the spooky one with a fucking hell what's a fucking name to be actress and the titan that's
saying oh um Florence pew Florence pew yeah that's you know when he's playing the kind of the sort of

(01:36:37):
mad granda you know that's a bit more like that's you know but I think he's I think he's better in
this than he is than that you know it was good to I enjoyed Cosmo in this I thought he was good
I liked how I seen a bit more of a minute in fact what about you as you go for um yeah originally I
had like I was like well it's kind of constant show really he's in most of the he's he's he's good
but he's just a more cool character and then I was like oh should I give it to you Ashley Miranda

(01:37:01):
Ashley Mohindra because she's excellent as well she's but I was like well no so I gave it to Cosmo as
well because he does have a bit of range in terms of showing his emotions and you're right like he's
happy with the grandkids and he's got his hat and gloves on and stuff it's funny and then obviously
has the darker side but yeah it's emotional depth and kind of saves the day really if it depends

(01:37:26):
which way you want to interpret it so yeah I gave it to Cosmo I thought you deserved it
that is good and the scene well I think what is particularly good is um where Martin visits someone
jail yeah you know it's a very good um I thought I thought I think they're both great in that scene
yeah but yeah I thought yeah I was they really really nice performance from Cosmo there um I feel

(01:37:47):
I know I know I made a bit of fun at the beginning with these beards but you know I guess it is
something because I was thinking about is it so it has to do the same thing in Mayflies because we have
to believe that he's gonna close an age to 20 current in Mayflies and that current is a good bit older
than Martin comes and I think yeah but he does you know when you see him with his beard off he does have

(01:38:08):
that sort of um that sort of ever young kind of face and I always felt we were sorry for him and
line of duty because he's you know he's up he's up against some great actors in that and he
you know he almost doesn't look old enough to be doing yeah the job that he's doing he is great in line

(01:38:28):
of duty you know and it's particularly good with Vicki McClure you know in the scenes of them together
they I think they feel really authentic the um the relationship between them feels really authentic
they're really good but yeah I think you know I do wonder don't want to kind of put words in
Compton's mouth but I wonder if maybe the the big sort of Peter Sutcliffe beard is to you know get

(01:38:54):
well yeah you know to get the kind of roles that he is the right age to play you know this sort of
mid-thirties approach in middle age and the approach in middle age roles and not just these sort of
young kind of boys roles you know the fucking Peter Sutcliffe beard Jesus Christ well yeah I guess
you're right it suits him though so it does suit him yeah it does suit him yeah it shows that you can he's

(01:39:18):
adaptable and you can play young as well but yeah it's a good that I mean he's a great actor
Martin Compton he is a great actor yeah he's great yeah and and and a good egg by all accounts as well
yeah what I read about him is you know he seems like a good down-air chap well that was fear the three-part
drama available on Amazon Prime but I'm maybe not in every country so I don't know you can find it

(01:39:44):
where you can I think you can read it off them Apple if you need to probably oh yeah I think so yeah
that's that's that's other means that we can point in the reaction of if you write to his privately as well
so fear was my choice Frank so it's your choice in the next episode of the Swally so why do you
tell us what we're going to be talking about then well I've gone for a classic and a classic

(01:40:11):
that's nearly as old as our favourite Scottish actor oh and the next episode I'm taking this back
to cover the oldest thing we've ever covered back to 1949 and the classic Ewing comedy whisky galore
oh wow exclamation mark with and I with a poll host of actors that I'm pretty sure we'll be making

(01:40:33):
their swally debuts like Gordon Jackson and Basil Radford and Joan Greenwood and I haven't seen
whisky galore since I was a wee boy I'm ever watching it my granny so I'm really looking forward
to revisiting it and talking about it with you on the next episode to culture especially I'd be
the same it'd be a very very long time since I've seen that film so yeah I'll look forward to watching

(01:40:57):
that fantastic wow we're gonna go old school whisky galore and the next genitals well gentle post
gentle post war comedy lovely my favourite kind well thank you very much for listening everyone
hope you enjoyed the show if you would like to get in touch with us you can you can email us

(01:41:17):
cultureswally@gmail.com any recommendations any new stories or if you just want to say hello
and similarly give the little podcast a little rating review subscribe wherever you get your podcasts
you can follow us on insta at cultureswally.pod and we have a wonderful website as well don't we Greg?
we do indeed you can find us at cultureswally.com there's links to other socials links to other

(01:41:41):
episodes and blog posts and articles about Scottish television and film to come and give us a
bit of traffic trying to update it this fantastic well I've got obviously you're invested in the
Aberdeen game tonight but I presume you won't be staying up to watch it it's a bit late it doesn't
kick off until quarter to eleven here so it's a wee bit late but I'll be I'll be checking as soon as

(01:42:03):
I open my eyes in the morning and keeping my fingers crossed for a victory for the dandy don's
wonderful thank you very much um I'm sure now we have your blessing we will pull off a victory
by doubt it no I'm mind I know I always look for the don's he says good last good lad thank you very much

(01:42:24):
all right wonderful well thank you very much Greg until next time until next time
what's that is he dead
William.
Go apply it.
[MUSIC]

(01:42:53):
(upbeat music)
(upbeat music)
[Music]

All Episodes

Episode 136 - Fear (2025)

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

24/7 News: The Latest

Dateline NBC

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Episode 136 - Fear (2025)