How This First-Generation MILLIONAIRE Broke The Welfare Cycle | Dr Omai Kofi | TDES - The Dillon England Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fail, fail fail like that was my strategy. Let's fail.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Your tagline is first generation millionaire? Yes, what was your
first job out of high school?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Son it go? Was it Wendy's out of high school?
I was doing babysitting. I was doing cleaning. I was
flipping burgers and people. If you're scared, do it scared?
I'm like, no, don't do it scared, do it prepared.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
What would be some advice that maybe you'd give to
your former self. You do have to have wealth vehicles.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
You do have to be around wealthy people that talk,
wealthy that do wealthy things, get around people circumstances and
situations that are affluent. I want you to believe in
whatever number you see or whatever amount you see, and
I want you to know that it's already there.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Your money should.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Be making you more money than your job or your work,
or your effort, your hours, your dollars, your time, your energy,
your money should be doing all that. I can't say
that I've, you know, truly failed in life. I can
only say that everything that I allowed to have been
has happened to my favor eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, well, this is doctor Omi, first generation millionaire strategist expert, visionary,
awesome woman, funny, great personality. I'm running out of synonyms.
I'm a walk into saurus. And we met like two

(01:26):
months ago and here here, and and uh, it's just
been really fun to stay connected with you. And you
you were someone that when I met and you were
you came to this like investment event in a hoodie
and yeah, yeah you did, and you were just vibing

(01:47):
and you were just kind of like a secret mover
and it was awesome. And then Paul obviously Paul doing
his walk across Africa right now, walk for water. He's
grinding if ye like snapped his foot or what ever, like,
and uh, but the cool thing about that is like
now he's a lot of locals walking with him. It's
now like becoming like a like a local event, not

(02:08):
just you know. Yeah, So that's been fun and we
just stay connected. And I was like, bro, let's get
you on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Podcast. You guys were so calm. Yeah, this is fun.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
So well, thank you for making the drive, thanks for
hanging with us, and we have a lot we could
talk about, but this is what I wanted to start with.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Okay, that's good. So I've been Dylan England yet so please, Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I don't know that's a good thing or bad thing.
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
But help.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah. I was like, this is gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I know.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
We the interview that we did before was a we
both Lucas and I are adopted. I didn't, and then
we just we jumped in deep like like.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
His and like it was so now I'm like I
had to take a moment.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
To like, all right, regroup.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I can't just start sobbing on this interview because we
were close. Man, I feel like Isaiah was back there
just sniffling the whole time, like it was beautiful.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
So uh, and so you're the one that got helped
get Lukes on the show. You're you're connector yes, you're
someone that loves connecting. But your tagline is first generation
millionaire and this is a conversation that came with Lucas, and.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
So I want to pivot to you. Let's talk about it, okay. Uh.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Lucas grew up in Chicago, bouncing from foster home to
foster home. Everything about his life said you're going to
stay in that situation absolutely, and he didn't. He rose,
he fought, and he's like, I'm not going to play
the victim. It's not gonna be another generation just stuck
in this life. So good, and that's you. And so

(03:47):
I want to talk to you about the fact that you,
as a first generation millionaire. At what point in your
life did you say another generation isn't just going to
pass by?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Like I'm going to be that change for my family.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Funny story times do it? Not so funny but funny now.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
So in twenty fifteen, I think I had already been
down the progression of well, I know that I've already
been down the progression of not continuing with four generations
of welfare because that was the story, right, constant relationship
concerns and issues with the elders and the ancestors and such,
my mom, her sisters, some and so forth.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
So my mother is one of eight back to back
to back, and.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I started asking questions about just curiosity about me, really,
but what is our story, what's our background?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
What's this? What's that? So as I got educated, I'm like, bro,
we're like dope.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Like the difference between us and the Jackson family is
a lot, but no, the difference between us and the
Jackson family was like, they literally executed on their whatever
it was, paying Glory story, whatever, their talent, skill sets, whatever,
and we're not using our talents properly. So I'm going
to go on that journey of discovery. So that's what
I did. So that started a while back, But in
twenty fifteen, there was a pivotal moment that I went

(05:06):
to Staples or Office Max or somewhere we need a
sponsorship for the show. But I went to those places
and that place, and I remember picking up some magazine.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm gonna be investor, I'm gonna credit investor. I'm being
an investor. I'm in Eye Quadry right. I was on
my Robert Kielzaki Ready yeah, and I got all these
wealth magazines. I was like, yeah, I was already investing
in like this girl's company. And I was just like, bro.
I went and I wash. The dude was wiping my
credit card.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I had just put like four thousand dollars in that
bank account, and he was wiping my credit card, swiping
my credit card, and I'm like, bro.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
What's up. And he's like it's not it's not going
through this declining. I'm like, okay, fix your machine. Yeah,
fix your machine. And he was like no, I said,
I don't know. It's something.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I said, hold on one second, let me go to
my car. I'm gonna get some cash because I don't
have time for this.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I don't know what it is. I'm not calling the bank.
It's just some magazines, right.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
They were all investment Forbes, this, that, and the third
so Business Insider all this stuff, and that magazine that
year said investors, you need.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Da da da da da. So I was like, that's me,
that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
So you were already on the investor journey at this point.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
When this I get back in, the man kind of
hands me my card upside down.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
He was like, ma'am, it's just not going to go through.
And I'm like, why are you holding down my card
like that?

Speaker 4 (06:16):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I flip it over and it's a lone star card.
M pauls it is a freaking lone star card.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I was trying to purchase.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Investment magazines with a food stamp card.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It wasn't even mine, it was the girl I was.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I was renting out my home and it was hers
because that's how she was helping pay the rent.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Bro And I was like, whatuff.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
It wasn't even mine and I was trying and the
guy was so embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
He said, ma'am, I'm just taking for free.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm good, dude, money, I can do this.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
And at that time, I had like one hundred and
eleven streams of income, kid, you not like for real,
for real document. I was insane. I was insane. I
was like whatever. I wasn't even trying to run from
my path. I was literally running into who I was
trying to become. And I heard that Warren Buffett had
ninety nine I'm like, I'm on the top hand. Yeah, right,
he's a vergram.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Right, yes, but money. I was like, that was the
defining moment for me.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
And that's when I recognized that I wasn't even in
my mind, the first generation millionaire yet. That took about
three years for me to develop after that year, But
twenty fifteen was the pivotal point that I decided to
change myself and not worry about whatever, whatever I thought,
whatever egotistical things I was trying to do.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That slapped me in my face and I.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Was like, it wasn't even mine, right, like, but it
was my story still, Like I can't just say, oh,
that's her card.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I was a part of it. I was using it.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Is that almost how it happened, like almost like oh,
I guess you didn't even subconsciously.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
You just grabbed it right subconsciously, huh.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
And that was the moment that just said I'm gonna
But you were at this point though you were already invested.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I was like you were slowly infesting. I was slowly trading.
I had just gotten into cryptocurrency. I had just gotten
into bitcoin. I had just started doing this.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I had just decided to stop doing my corporate contracts
that I was doing. I had just what were you doing?
What was your first job out of high school?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Sonic? Was it Wendy's out of high school?

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Dy's Okay? And then when did you now?

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Mind you? I graduated high school at seventeen, so I
was still young. I was I had just turned seventeen,
so I was still young because my birthday September blah
blah blah this stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And you're just a prodigy and super smart. You know,
that's obviously what it is. Yeah, and so Sonic, Yeah,
it was Sonic, Yeah, Sonic. But that's that's I guess
the point, like you could still be working there, right,
Like that's like there are people that graduate and they
work at Sonic fact well Wendy's, and that's their life.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
What was different about yours?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
That was a part of my journey.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
And I was always speaking to the manager, always talking
who owns this place? Everywhere I go, even when we
came here, Who was I speaking to the owner?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
And natural have you been?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Ever since I was the youngest of the youngest, and
my mother also imparted that into my sister and myself.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Who owns this place? I'm like, Mom, what does that matter?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Just pay the thing? Who owns this place? I need
to speak to the decision maker. That's not always the owner,
but I always she always made sure that if you
pay for it, if you're purchasing that you need to
speak to that person in charge, right, And so that
was instilled also through her. But the curiosity of like
who owns this, who owns that? Who made that camera?
Who's Isaiah back there? That's a deal is the curiosity.

(09:31):
It's just the walking curiosity. And then what was your
job after Sonic? When did you start?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Kind of like you said, you had all those streams
of income, when did you start stacking this.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I had a lot of streams of income then as well.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
So I was doing babysitting, I was doing cleaning, I
was doing selling stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I was doing people's makeup. Was a makeup artists for
a while. I was doing this and that.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I was a high school collegiate athlete as well. I
was doing everything we got paid from school. I was
flipping burgers I have. I worked at AT and T at
once time. I worked at AT and T. I worked
at Wendy's, I worked at This is all simultaneous.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
And I did cut co knives because I.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Was, hey, yeah, there you go, don't yet, yeah, And
so I was doing and so it was like I
always had streams of income.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I never understood a reason not to have streams of income.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Entrepreneurial family, are you just kind of just.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
It was definitely in the bloodline for sure, because just.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
About everybody I know now is either in high management
career path and or an entrepreneur. There's literally I don't
think anyone in our family has a job or they're
in the military.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Most of them are in the military.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
The younger generation above them all entrepreneurs. Ownership something I
don't know that's awesome, that's all hat just like that
welfare was though. But I don't think that we thought
of welfare as in societal welfare.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I think we thought like let's eat.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, But I'm anti welfare, right, I'm so anti welfare
because because of what you're talking about, like, is there
not more? Now?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I get if you need a future family, do you do?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Welfare is a band d It is a complete man it.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Shouldn't be like your lifetime medication, not at all, right,
and it's not at all I like, I one hundred percent
am like and I get all crazy, but I guess
how I view like a lot of people. There's a
big like war on antidepressants right now, the same thing.
It's a band aid. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be
for the next forty seven years your hook on a medication.
But if you need it for a month or two

(11:22):
months whatever, great, But that's the same between. But that's
not how welfare is treated. And then what happens is
we're talking with lucas you know, and we were talking
with Isaiah's family, like they come visit us and they're like, man,
y'all are rich, Like no, not really like rich is
over there, like we're just we're just.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
We're not rich actually, but.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
It's a perspective thing it is, and and it's it's
saying like I don't want to just be on well
for the rest of my life.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I want to pursue. And that's that's the thing that
I respect about you.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I respect about Lucas, I spect about Isaiah, I expect
about myself and my family of just like we're going
to move forward. And then so the fast forward to
twenty fifteen. Thing again, Okay, so that thing happened. You're like, Okay,
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta ramp this up. What
did that look like for you?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Like?

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Okay, I gotta change, Like what was going through your mind?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Like what did you do? Multiplicity?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Right, be fruitful and multiply base space base commandment?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I love all the other ones, but this for me
was the first commandment. And I was like, why are
we not being fruitful and mult supplying? Like if let's
just say it was my let's just say I was
on welfare and I was really trying to go through
that process.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
And there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
But in that moment, I knew that wasn't my story,
Like it literally wasn't like you know, in that moment.
And so at that point twenty fifteen was invests as
many fail fail, fail, Like that was my strategy.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Let's fail. No one wants to hear that. Is there
a crickets right now? Like no one wants to hear that.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
But I was like fail, and I mean I want
to fail fast, hard, and get that out the way,
because if that is included as my spattery, because I
see spectrum.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I don't like duality as much, under.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Stand it, I respect it, I get it, but I
really love spectrum. And I was like, let me put
myself in some spectrum style situation.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
So that's all I did.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I just focus on what's the next level? Speaking with billionaires,
speaking with millionaires. I started flying in well this actually
really started into twenty eleven, but by twenty fifteen, like
it was consistent. I was flying in billionaires and millionaires,
mainly those that look like me, because I was tired
of the we can and all the people who then
you know, and all them they they and them and

(13:31):
they you know, it's like a song, like a bad,
bad song, and it's.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Like them and they who? Who's they?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Dylan, don't ask me. I'm sipping my water.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Oh is that what you want to do? So my
question was like, who's they?

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Like?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
What the And so I started to fly in in that,
and so long story short, I just started to ramp
up and rev up and be more curious and more
curious and curious, curate more and more. And so I
was like, if I can do this, like with the
little bit that I have, imagine what these other people
have done. And I just started connecting with those people
because I was I was over it.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Do you you know who Alex Ramosi is, right? Yes, Okay,
So he says something, he said, I just watched it,
and this is what you did naturally, And he said
making a lot of money is very simple.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Okay. And it's like does he have a secret sauce
to that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:21):
And it's like, all right, I'm in, all right, listen,
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
He's got my attention.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
And basically he said, I'm gonna butcher a little bit
basically prevacy. He said, find a problem a rich person
has and charged a lot of money for them to
buy it, and they're gonna buy it. Okay, it's like
you're clients need to be wealthy people, he said. If
you can't, like, for example, this is like your point
likely strategy. This is a trategy because you're like, I'm
immediately going to start hanging around millionaires and billionaires.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Right, That's that's it.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
So like I could I could say, like with the
podcast consulting that I told you I'm starting to do, Right,
It's like, all right, I could help someone start a
podcast and I could charge two hundred bucks for a call,
or or I start meet with a company that has
five thousand employ and I charge twenty grand for my services.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's like when you increase with the income of the
people that are in your circles, making money significantly easier
than just trying to just play the volume game. And
so when you started hanging around the people that you
want to do, attained to, you want to be with,
eventually you joined them.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
And that's how it worked.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Did you have something to as you kind of started
figuring out, you said, dived into crypto.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
I think you drive to do real estate a little bit.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Do you have a favorite investment vehicle that's done the
best for you?

Speaker 3 (15:29):
So there's this guy named Tom mcfire or McPhie is
it mcphi uh? He is Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffet's
wealth manager, and they have their family has the Perpetual
Wealth Code where they teach infinite banking. Okay, and my
weal strategy is Douglas as who chased me for three
years okay to get my whole life insurance policy.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
And I'm like, why not turn why not this? Why
not that? Why not? I you will? Why not?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Like I'm not like it's not like I'm ignorant. I
understand there's many products, but why that one?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Anyway? With those two people in my ear constantly all the.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Time, like showing showing, showing, showing, explaining, showing, showing, educating, showing,
that's my favorite thing is like that I can go
on my infinite bank.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
It is my bank.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
It's literally called your bank, Like that's the trademark of zero.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah right, And so I just I love it.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I'm like, so you mean that I can just like
use my money and then pay it back and then
use it then pay back. And I was like, but
you can do that with a lot of stuff, right,
credit cards, if you use it, pay it back, use
it pay back like investments, bank account. I mean, you
could do this with the most things. But anyway, my
point was, that's my favorite vehicle. Okay, is anything that's infinite, Yeah,
because that's back to the beefruit will and multiply right.

(16:44):
That's my baseline, by the way, And so anyway, my
point in that is saying that that vehicle whole life
insurance or anything such as my real estate where I
can get a heelock or I can do a cash
out REFI I could do something to where I could
use it and pay it back, and that's my equity.
I mean, there's some costs to be the boss, and
there's some transactional things and stuff like that. But the

(17:06):
point is anything that lets me be infinite on earth
besides my mind right in my subconscious mind. But yeah,
that any vehicle financially economic vehicle that will allow me
to go in and out of.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
It, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
And you're a producer of a TV show, my jam,
I am yeah. I mean I feel like you just
have your hands in so many things you do. How
do you keep it all straight?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
You know what I don't I don't heard what that
old work life balance?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
How about there's nuns like, I don't know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Like, we do what we do because we do what
we do.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I do what I want to do when I want
to do it. I don't know how else to say it,
but that's like it. But yeah, so with the TV show,
the show and VICKI Show, it's so fun.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
How'd you get into producing a TV show?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
I literally have always just been around television, film and media.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I was a writer associated press.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
People don't know that Roland out Magazine was Seattle Times,
so many different publications, Plano Insider here in Plano.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
But I was always around that.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
And at that time, doctor Sherlash and Jackson who will
be coming on the Dylan England Show. She was She
had an opportunity with Verizon FiOS don't judge us, Verizon
Files and u An Network, and she was doing it
and I didn't.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Know everything I was doing. I was just like, let
me help you out and let me do this.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I don't know that I'm a producer. I just know
I'm working, Isaiah. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
You just flipping buttons, kicking and calling people, interviewing.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
You know, I'm doing what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm creating teams and all this, and I don't know
that I'm a producer because that's not what I was
going for.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I was going for the.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Success of interviewing top notch people. One of Mark Cuban's
business partners who helped out with Yahoo or the Seale
of Yahoo, who wrote an awesome book called one of
my favorite today We are Rich.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Ah. We had him on just different things, right, So
it kept me connected, kept me in the vibration. So
that's what I was doing. I was just vibing out
with deep Ball.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
But then when I started working in the investor relations
department and.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Understanding like, oh my god, we can make some bread.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Like the talent cool, no judgment, right, but it's the producers.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
That make all the money.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Right, you see, the talented artists, unless they're doing their
concerts and they're doing other things or different.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Things, they're not really making a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
So I was like, well, now I'm into it because
of the business side of it. Yeah, So now yes,
I can say I'm a producer because I'm an executive
producer because I want to get paid right right, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
And you've just had that sense about you is that
like natural where you just kind of Lucas and I
talked about the same thing about like he had the
ability to find problems and solve them and then that's
made him do very well in life, very well. And
it's a similar thing to you. Is that something that
you just learned through those failures early or is this
something that just kind of came naturally to you where
you're because a lot of people like they get good
at one thing, yeah, and that was one thing on

(19:54):
they do. But you and Lucas and media degree, it's
like we're gonna try this, We're gonna try this, so
we're gonna grow here. And it's a little bit like
ping pong of just trying different things when when it rained,
it's very natural.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
When I want or I get a curiosity like that
hits me, I'm going for it. I can't say that
I've you know, truly failed right in life.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I can only.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Say that everything that I allowed to happen has happened
to my favor eventually.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, how much do you think of that as just
mindset though? I think do you think the same things
that's happened in your life could happen to someone else?
And then they view that as a victim mentality, and
they could be in a complete.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Different place in you.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I had a young lady call me the other day
and tell me that something I said to her hurt her.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Something something I said. I said, well, what was it?
And then she I don't, I don't remember, but it
was a long and I'm.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Like, bruh, how would I it was months ago? Like,
how would I even know that I asked? I was
asking her questions, and the way that I was asking
her I guess it was so take charge and dominated
that she was offended and no way was it's so vulnerable.
I'm like, bro, I asked everybody the same question. How
did you determine that you know this was a target

(21:06):
on you?

Speaker 1 (21:06):
And then you carried that around for months?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And now you're to I don't even know what you're
talking about, and I don't care. I'm gonna be very
very clear, I don't care. I don't want to know
any further. You can stop speaking, and when I talk
to you again, I'm not gonna change what I said.
And I'm still gonna be dominant and I'm still gonna
ask questions, and you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Have to make adjustments. Not me because I don't understand that,
right was it?

Speaker 4 (21:29):
That victim mentality is just stout way.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
But I don't think it's as much as people say mindset, mindset, mindset.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
For me dealing it is more heart set.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
And I because the heart is because the heart is
the first thing that's formed in your entire zygo as
you're building and creating yourself in the womb, and within
two weeks or eighteen days or so, you're gonna have
your heart. You don't have a brain and a mind
and all this well that mind, right, the mind of
the heart.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
You don't have all this other stuff going on with
you at.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
That moment as well. Oh beat the heartbeat, right, there
is a life there before all before all that. But
that that's what I'm concerned with. Because your mind, you
might be out of your mind today, it isn't it tomorrow.
You might be out of love today, and then it's
I don't care about all that stuff. Do you have
the right heart, meaning that if you want to go
for something, are you going to actually go forth and

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courage and get it done?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
And people, if you're scared, do it scared? I'm like, no,
don't do it?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Scared, do it prepared, because your heart prepares you for.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
The bad, the good, the ugly, all the things.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
So I'm not really worried about mindset as much as
I'm worried about heartset. And then we can start talking
about your gut in your mind.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I believe that in coherence.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
If it's not all coherent, something's going to falter somewhere.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
And I'm not into all that far.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
And I think the heart makes up for like you
could be kind of dumb, oh my gosh, but have
heart and you're fine.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's like my life. I don't feel like I'm stop.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I got heart though, Isaiah, I got heart based You're
very intelligent, but I do like it's like sports right
to have a below average athlete. But man, they play
with heart and like they're gonna make up for you.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Until my IQ, my basketball IQ, when I played ball,
my volleyball IQ, until I like really got into it,
cross country runner, track runner, until I really got into it,
my heart was the only thing carrying me literally physically
from cardio, and it secondly was from the fact that
I wanted to I had a desire and things of
that nature.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Then when the skill and the intelligence came in.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yes, I became an elite athlete, but that took time,
but my heart was already ready to.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I don't think you get to where your skills get
sharpened without your heart first.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
That you have to start there. And even a relationship
is like I love you.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Like it's a choice. And even that's what we were
talking with Lucas. It's like, do you mean it? Yeah,
like you can, you can say all these things, what happens,
if what happens?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
If tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
My mind is telling me something logically that, oh I
shouldn't leave my wife. No, yeah, no, I've chosen this person.
Oh that's it, Like the mind just get that out
of here. Which, by the way, I never think that
because she's amazing and I'm married up like you and me. Anna.
She's literally this is how incredible My wife is ready
for this. Yeah, roll this, babe, I'm talking to you. Okay,

(24:13):
He's He's like, you know you're working on listen, coming
home tomorrow night. Anyway, I'm gonna release this episode.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Today right now.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Dude, you're blushing for me anyway, so.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, listen, but no, we're friends. It's fine and.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Uh and uh, by the way, like your styles in credit.
I was gonna ask, did you do any style, like,
because you're you dressed like you walked in Like I'm
get back to this, I'm modeling, but go ahead, No
good anyway, Anna, I have a seven week old right now,
yes you do, and a two week old and no
family in the area.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
And my wife just freaking steps up, holds it down.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
And like, how many women, how many men in this
like world would say that their wives would let them
go travel for a hobby podcast that doesn't even really
make them money.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
He believes in something she does and she's willing to sacrifice.
I'm like, you tell me I've married up, man, I've
married like up there and she and the thing is like,
she's not guilt.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
She doesn't guilt trip me. She just texted me pictures
about they had a swim day.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
She's not like, but you do the same thing for
her to absolutely she but she also like that's what
I'm saying, Like I remember we were in a meeting
and he stops and like, uh, this is the family.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah. So my wife and I have a rule. So
I have a rule.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I love it that if I get more than two
calls from her in a given time. Yeah, it's like
I pick up yes, so Jenny. I always try to
pick up if it's like really quick to say, hey,
is everything good? But if we if it's like more
than two calls in a row, it's like I don't
care what I could be interviewing, stop dropping life trump. Yeah,
and I'm picking up that phone. Yeah, you know, because
that's just families more important. But I say all that

(25:58):
to say like, if for whatever dumb reason, my mind
is like, oh whatever, I'm done with my life whatever,
Like no, no, Like, it's the hearts, the passion, it's
it's the choice that we've made love each other.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
You back center to the why, and I just think
without it, I don't understand what what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, and that's why the Bible talks about the heart.
It's about just the hard choice to courage. Yeah, and
things of that nature. Yeah, I'm so sorry my eyelash boy. Yeah, Judge,
don't don't worry about It's fine. It looks great, that's it. Yeah,
should I get Should I do with my lashes? Continue
with the podcast, Dylan that I feel like I've decent lashes. Actually,

(26:38):
my my wife.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Could be nice eyes. Thank you thank you.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
That's the only compliment that I normally get from from
what women is the.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, tall your hands.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
There's a lot of things, but the eyes, dude, that's what.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
You're going to stick to.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
That.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
The smile, not the dimples. Smiles.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, it's it's a package. It's like it's complete.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Back here we go.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Why married up?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
I know?

Speaker 4 (27:01):
I think about it. She's doing great.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Dude, tell us how you really feel.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
No, I'm just kidding, but oh yeah, so back about
your life. But just anyway, and I love you. So
when you watch this, remember that. All right, So we
were remember what were talking about?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
That was great? This is the Dylan experience. No, this
is it. I've been Dyland. Yeah officially. At this point,
Isaiah's laughing because he knows what being Dyland is.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I just learned I've officially been Dyland in England.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, it's an experience.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
It's an authentic experience, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Hey, by the way, Cardix, this shirt is available on
Cardex if you'd like to wear an authentic shirt, and
it's available now everywhere on the main page.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Oh yeah, that's pretty exciting. Why is that important to you?
It helps me make money. That's getting.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
But besides that, you already heard the word authentic. So
I have a beef with this word because the way
people normally mean authentic, they are the most lazy people
in the world because this is what they mean when
they when people say you need to be your authentic
true self, they basically mean you don't need to change,
you don't need to grow. And I'm like, that's not

(28:14):
that's not what the word. Yeah, And so when I'm
using the word authentic, I'm saying two things. Number One,
when we have these conversations, I want them to be
unscripted real.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
We are so unscripted, like and I want.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
People I want the people to know like I'm I
didn't come here trying to force my interview on your questions. No,
I want it to be like, wherever the conversation leads,
that's where we're going. And it's and I want people
to know like it's not like me trying to like
create this like my version of the show. It's like
the guest gets the lead and I'm just here to
help guide them through their story.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
So that's part of it authentic communication. But I also
think the word authentic to me means have a real
view of yourself and actually who you are, and the
fact that you do need other people's help, the fact
that you do need to grow, the fact that being
authentic is understanding the fact that you're not everything, you're
not perfect, you don't have it all together, and sometimes
you need help. Sometimes you need each other sometimes. And

(29:10):
when people say you need to be your authentic true self,
it's like this like selfish like viewpoint, and I view
it more as have a real understanding of your shortcomings
and then have those people fill those spots. Understand what
you're good at and pursue those things. Find your unique ability,
jump into that, but don't lie to yourself. Authentic is

(29:32):
the opity of lying yourself. And I think when people
say they're being authentic, they're just lying to themselves of
ignoring what the reality is. And a lot of people
that are saying I'm just authentic are poor, they don't
hold jobs, they don't they're jerks. Like when it comes
to speech is like I'm just being authentic, I'm like, no,
you're just a jerk. Right, but right, And so that's

(29:53):
to me the beef is so I'm trying to rebrand
it as that like we can have real experiences with
each other, what but with kindness, but you can actually
look at yourself and be like, I'm going to take
an authentic view of where I'm at and I'm going
to grow from it. And so that's why, like we're
in the word it's it's uh to me, it means
a lot. And the other thing I'd say is this
the first I still struggle with like allowing myself. For example,

(30:18):
I love being funny, Like it's not like I say,
I know, it's like when I'm not behind the mic,
it's like we don't not laugh. And I'm still working
on letting that come out more even on the mic. Okay,
so I'm trying to just the word authentic is like, hey,
I need to I need to really really work on it.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
So that's what it means to me. I was a
very long answer.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
No, it's good because I mean I like people knowing
about you're branding, right, and then you said it this
is a way to make money.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Well until you're your authentic self.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
And every version that you just gave me, it's not
gonna even if you do make the money, it's not
really going to be what it is unless you're authentic
st yeah, and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Taking it like I do believe like authentic like it
is good, like and people aren't themselves on campra like
like that's what I try to get is people's real
self out of them.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
And most people when the cameras turn on, it's oh
they perform, right, They're performative. Yeah, And that's what I
don't want to be and wow, and I want to encourage.
I got a really good compliment from a guest yesterday
and I was like, hey man, how's the podcast? And
this is some one has a radio show for like
fifteen years, so they've done it, They've been on other
people's shows. And I said, hey man, he's like, dude,

(31:22):
He's like, I forgot we were recording.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, that's the way it should be, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
And I'm just like he's like, it just felt like
two friends smoking a cigar having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
That's the way.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
And so he was himself and I'm like, I did
my job, and so that's the goal. That's that's kind
of what I you know, what I when I go
for but uh, this guy yeah, and then but I
don't know, it's enough about me. I've talked more about
myself in this interview than I have a question. Yeah,
because you're the first person.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
I interviewed people too, So you know, I something.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
About today, Isaiah. This has been a good day. Yeah,
the energy.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, we well we had a prop we had a
problem this morning.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I'll let the guests in, so it is my fault.
What happened? Would you do? Okay? So we eat these
are braining. You weren't two hours late.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
You are the very first guests to use our brand
new microphones. All right, it's called yes you you've been owed.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
I've been there. You go, oh my, you've been oh my,
oh my.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
And when I got here yesterday, we did a mic
check and one of the microphones sounded like you were
talking to a ten can are these new ones?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
And so we had to go back to the old
mics yesterday. And then this this morning at eight o'clock
ate thirty, he texted me Isaiah did and he's like, hey,
can I run to the store. Stores are what like
forty five minutes a way, Isaiah? And forty five minutes away?
And I'm like okay. Lucas comes in at ten it'll
be tight, but maybe Isaiah'll be here like ten, ten, whatever, Like,
let's just get the mics before Lucas, right, So I

(32:48):
never shared with him on the calendar that Lucas was
coming at ten.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
He thought the first thing was at eleven when you
you know we're gonna come.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Even then you caught up by like twelve thirty.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
But it wasn't gone the calendar for eleven business yeah,
and uh, and so we it was like nine to
fifty five and I text him and I'm like, yo,
you close. He's like, nah, dude, And I thought he
was joking. I'm like, bro, Lucas gonna be here in
five minutes. And were you guys still at the store.
There's still at the store forty minutes away, sounding like
Lucas is coming in like ten minutes. It wasn't his

(33:19):
foul because he didn't know about the interview.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Oh he didn't.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah, got he thought he.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Had another hour, right, And when I was like, bro,
someone's coming in ten minutes, He's like.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
So we we scrambled and it worked great because Lucas
got to talk to John Willis, who's one of our
vice presidents.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I met John yet.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
He's here, I'll introduce you, and they had a great
conversation and Lucas was like, man, this is really cool.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
So it worked out great. It worked out well.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
And then you know, it worked out like if you
would have shown a bride eleven, that would have been
bad because we'd like started recording at table.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
You were perfect, you were seen. It can be so.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
But literally, Isaiah like runs it and then on the
way there, the car they were driving, the transmission overheats,
so they have to to pull on the side of
the road and that's how today started. So I'm over
here sweating like, okay, Lucas and I didn't know Lucas. Yes,
I'm like, I don't know this guy vibes like I
didn't know if he was gonna be like bro, like
I got a meeting at ten forty five, Like I
drove all the way here, screw you guys. I just

(34:14):
didn't know what that was gonna be. So I'm trying
to like appease him. Yeah, get this set up. Isaiah
runs in here and it's sweating, like we jump into
and then we just jump into like the best interview
we've done like probably ever in the studio.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Which proves that this is not a hobby, which proves
my point in heart versus mindset. Yeah, because mindset be like, nah,
this is crazy. Yeah, we're not doing we set eleven.
You said, Eve, We're gonna start at eleven because my
mind is telling me that this would be better if this,
that and the third.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
But the heart says, you know what, We're gonna make
this work.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
And figure it out and we're not gonna get like
that's the thing, like and then just take an ownership
good attitude.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Be all right, let me talk about taking ownership. Okay,
now we'll go back to me.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Let's go dang too much chill dog help with dude, Bro,
I talk myself for three minutes. I'll just start my
own shows through Dylan England.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Crap.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
No, So this is.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Actually really a really good segue into something very on topic.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I did not pay my one of my mortgages in May.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Now, what does the world think happens when you don't
pay your mortgage?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
What happens to your credit? Dylan? I don't know on
the mortgage side.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Negative points class Bro, what an eight hundred credit score?
An eight oh three to be exact, to watch it
go down one hundred and ten points. You talk about
getting someone's attention to make them pay right, And I
even think secretly, and this is my theory that the

(35:51):
higher your credit score when you do have something bad,
the worst that they they ding you because they do
expect you to do better.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
It's almost like.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
The best child or the best age whatever. I mean
out dare you you all people right? You're a star?

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Not that day. So I don't even know how this happened,
but it happened.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I took accountability. I didn't have a bad attitude. I
didn't cuss out the credit department. I didn't cuss out
the customer service person. I didn't disrespect the credit bureaus.
I didn't nastily send an email saying this.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
I didn't do my dispute and lie.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Stop doing that on your disputes, right, Dylan, I said,
I kid you not.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I said, God, I would never do this to myself.
I just wouldn't. I don't care if people were practicing
voodoo against me. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
If I didn't have the money, Okay, I wouldn't do
this to myself.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Whatever is going on.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
All I know is I wouldn't do it. And if
I wouldn't do it. God, I know you wouldn't. I
know there's a way out of this, I hope, right
when your prayer turns into a small bag, Yeah, you're
going to have to show me a way out of
this because I honestly did this to myself and I
took accountability. That superpower, by the way, is what we're
talking about, right. That superpower led me into discovery more

(37:12):
discovery curiosity.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
On man, I did f up? How do I fix this? Right?
And I thought about it. I thought there's no way out.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Bro, you did not. And then now you're being honest,
which tough. Right now you're telling them it wasn't this,
and it wasn't that old.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Here's the check where I put it. None of that
literally just slipped my mind. I had a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Oprah was coming to town, you know, we hosted her,
So I had so much going on that I just
didn't know why I did this to myself. And I'm like, no,
long story short. I find loopholes that I thought were loopholes.
Google and read it and such, and those didn't work.
Paul the comany Oh, you can do a good will letter,
not this company.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Use code one oh four.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Credit, not that you did not pay, you were late.
We took, we reported the truth.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Now, imagine when you do something and it's on you,
and you fully do something.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Or didn't do something, and you go ahead and say,
you know what, I'm gonna take this. It wasn't until
I surrendered, which has to do with my heart, now
my mind, because my mind would not let.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Me surrender realitation. Reality was, you didn't pay your mortgage. Okay,
negative one hundred and.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Ten points plus whatever negative on the other accounts lostory short.
I saw somewhere where a guy said I did this too.
I this happened to me, and this is what I did.
And it wasn't what he did. It was the fact
that he took accountability like I was teach others right,
So I did what he said. I emailed the president

(38:51):
of the mortgage company. I don't even know if that
was the president. I must have chet GPT LinkedIn Googled.
It's called apartmented. I sent a message to every department.
I have had that particular mortgage for twelve years of
my life. I have never been late.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's not me. You know this through my history.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I know you can't do a good will letter because
I've been denied eight times. I also understand that you're
not going to tell the credit buia to redact this.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
I get that, but just consider, yeah, yeah, full of dility,
let's get through sales mode. Just consider if this was
you hypothetically speaking.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Would you consider the possibilities of maybe changing this.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Yeah, but I take.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Full accountability and I don't want anyone there feeling bad
about reporting me because I did not pay right. So
I send this letter to the whole everybody sent it
to the president. And then I found another loophole, a
real genuine loophole.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
They sent me a letter in June, okay, late June.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, the letter was supposed to have been.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
In May. Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Truthfully, ye, in truth and lending, you do have an
opportunity to rectify the issue. If it's too late to
rectify it and the report had been made, they could
consider saying, hey, let me fix this. Made two payments
at the auto pays. I make payments every week versus
once a month. Anyway, I just.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I don't know. Anyway. My point is because I.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Don't like the interest, I'm knocking that interest and knocking
that principle down. But anyway, my point is, I'm like,
y'all see the history of this woman, like I was
speaking to third person, this woman right here, Yeah, this.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Woman right here would never do this to you.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Orse anyway, my point is, finally I get a message
June July, July twelfth or something like that, and it said.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
The situation has been reversed. The company report.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
The company reported that everything's good, everything's fine in my
credit shop back up the hundred and whatever points it
was to this hour. I don't know which one worked,
but I do know what did really work in my heart,
which was accountability. So when you do do something wrong,
adjust your attitude immediately. Take accountability immediately, And you might
want to surrender to God immediately.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
I hope, because you did it right.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
And that's the only way you're going to fix it.
If you don't admit you have a problem, you can't
fix a problem.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Somewhere else or whatever.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Maybe not in my credit Like I surrendered, I was like, God, listen, sorry,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
I can't lie.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
I'm not about to keep lying, right. I was about
to pay fifteen hundred dollars for this dude to fix
my credit that next day, I sat with his wife.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
That next day. I got the message from the credit
bureaus the next day fifteen hundred dollars. So in my mind,
God just wanted to bless me with fifteen hundred bucks.
Yea in my mind.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
But the lesson to be learned was accountability and surrender.
Both together are a powerful combination.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Well, I think that leads us. It's already been almost
an hour already, can't believe.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, we have Tony. I know we're almost that.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Tony's gonna be here in like ten minutes, so we're
gonna start wrapping up.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
You guys will love Tony as well.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
And uh, but now that we're kind of on the
advice train, I want to give you an opportunity, Like,
what kind of advice would you give to an entrepreneur,
maybe in high school still, maybe may be a kid
or a college shooting that loves the concept of working
for themselves with the concept of growing. What would be
some advice that maybe you give to your former self?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, former self. Uh, we're not doing feast or famine.
You don't have to. You don't have to.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
You do not have to suffer through, right, you do
have to have wealth vehicles. You do have to be
around wealthy people that talk wealthy that do wealthy things,
get around people circumstances and situations that are affluent, that
are impactful, that are influential, that are wherever you're trying
to go and grow. When I used to do the

(42:50):
high jump, I would watch videos. When I tell you,
over and over and over and over, but I also
over and over and over broke records all over Texas. Also, right,
I practice practice, practice practice. So if you really want
to be an entrepreneur, you feel that you are an entrepreneur,
you identify as an entrepreneur, you do not have.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
To do feast or famine.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Now, some entrepreneurs will get out here and tell you
that because that's what they went through, right, And I
could even say that's what I went through, But after
I decided to stop, right, And I always tell people,
remember this, trillion dollar companies got started.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Look, I gotta get started. Trillion dollar companies got started.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yet always don't do that Dylan, old Dylan, But you're
gonna go through Old Dylan's.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Gonna be tough.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
And some trillionaires sitting looking at you like bruh, I'm
taking care of families, legacies, human beings, life, cities, countries, nations,
and you're over here talking about what I shouldn't be doing.
You have to listen to your own voice, only for
a little while when it's negative. If it's positive, keep

(43:58):
taking that information and applying it. And so I would
just tell my former self, you don't have to do
feast or famine. That's a that's a program that's being
sold and told and experienced. However, if you choose to
be wealthy or whatever it is you choose to be,
if you choose to be a doctor, should you not
practice doctoring? Right?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Do you want to be a lawyer? Lawyer? Then you know?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
And so it's like, you know, practice the things that
you're going to be doing, but around the right people.
I don't want to go to practice with a bunch
of poor people when I'm practicing this wealth game, right,
because we didn't come to play. We came to win, right,
So it's like I'm not here to play a game.
I'm here to win championship.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
You don't want to do high jump with a bunch
of short people, No, I'm not doing it right out.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
No, I'm knocking down six to two, right, and so
my thing is this be around and in the environment,
because environment starts it all for everybody.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
You can't get away from it.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
You're in the environment of your father before your mother,
and you're in the environment of your mother for ten
months or less. Right, So my thing is like, you're
going to have to curate your environment. And that might
be a very alchemist situation.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yeah right, it.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Might be miracle, prayer, fasting, so many spiritual things that happen,
but your environment matters, and so you're not gonna be
able to produce. What to say, Jesus was without a problem,
sorry problem is not without honoring his own hometown, he
couldn't perform many miracles because of their unbelief. And so
it's the same concept, like I gotta I have to
be in the right environment. Therefore I have to be
the right version of myself around the right people and

(45:30):
doing the right things at the right time.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
And that's gonna take some time. And that's okay.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I don't think people understand how big that is. That
that advice. So and I'll give you a very quick
personal story and then we're gonna wrap up.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
We ain't going nowhere. We're gonna be here for another
four ahead, come back, got it in with me? But
he goes eighty hours with.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Lucas Lucas, No, no, no, this is the type forty
Michael pay This is a type forty five and now
it tight actually fine? Hey, hey, can you text Rodney
and just make sure he's looking at the door Isaiah. Okay,
we can keep going next a little extra longer than
and make sure, like you know, coffee, whatever Tony needs,

(46:11):
and that way we can keep going a little longer.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Sorry, my son was facetiming. He's good.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah, do take care of it. You're gonna make sure
like family first, you know what I'm saying. Family first
is a different energy. And he knows I'm doing a podcast.
And then you know what happens with my son when
he sees me on like YouTube and all this uff,
he has to come on video. So here he is, Hey,
I'm on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Son. You good? Okay, I'll call you back. Okay, We're good.
No family situation.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Uh environment, let me tell you a personal story where
this has negatively affected me that I'm trying to get better.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Uh so the way my insurance company works in my role,
I'm in a manager role. Yes, the manager role above
me hires people for me to train. I don't have
a decision of if I get to train them or
not they get placed under me. So as one hundred
percent commission field. And there are only two types of

(47:16):
people in this world that will work one hundred percent
commission insurance crazy people and who else? Crazy people with
talent or crazy people with no talent. Okay, and most
of the people with no talent have been bouncing from
job to job to job to job, job, one hundred
percent commission job, this is like their fifteenth stop. They
haven't been successful anywhere they go. They're not high performers.

(47:38):
They never will be high performers. And that has been
my environments so much ease, Yeah, and like it it.
So from when I had one of my mentors leave,
the guy that hired me into the business. He was
a high performer and when I hung around him twenty eighteen,
nineteen twenty, we killed it. Yeah, and then all of
a sudden he left. He had a different position. COVID
hit and for three years I was average. It's you know,

(48:02):
we weren't like we were hitting kind of our quota,
but we weren't thriving in this business. And I and
all the people that I trained, you know, none of
them wanted to work, none of them wanted to call.
There were always complaints, There were always excuses, and you
know what, I started to do it with a lot.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Of family members.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
But go ahead, sorry, not my family, yeah right right,
not my yeah, but you know what I started to do.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
What did you start doing?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Make excuses? I started to complain. I started to blame
other people.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Oh this is good, dude.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
And so I'm serious, Like you can go to you
can go to my beginning podcasts. And I blamed COVID
for my life being like, crap, this is good. So
like like literally you can go to like you can
go to like watch me complain on camera and I'm
happy you didn't take it down and it's there.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Oh yeah, it's there.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
And and my environment was people like literally the people
that I saw every day just complained about how bad
letter life was, that they didn't want a cold call,
they didn't want to put the activity. And all of
a sudden, I stopped complaining. I stopped and I want
to do the activity and complaining why my family has
no money? Come on, like that's the reality, like that's
like you can talk my wife. My wife and I

(49:09):
have had late conversations about it. And then all of
a sudden through this podcast, meeting some high performers here
and there, you know, and then all of a sudden
getting connected with like Yasser.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
A very high performer by the way, all.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Right, you know, and then having some people local Detroit
like high performers. And I always used to look at
them like I'm here and there here, and this is
what people really need to understand a lot of people
here want you there with them.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
They there is lonely at the I say, it's lonely
at the bottom, of the top, middle, everywhere.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
It's lonely everywhere.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Is the reason why Yoaster hired Isaiah, yeah, right from
a waiting job, right because people like that, and you
find those people they want to help you. And when
I learned that, and then I make people like you
and Paul, And now all of a sudden, in my
seventy eighty hour work week, of my time is with

(50:01):
people that have made it, versus eighty percent of my
time being with people that hate their life.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
And now I hate my life too, ah.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
And so environment is really like an when you said that.
I was like, that's the best advice I think we've
ever had on the show. And I don't talk about
that enough because you know, uh and back for I
was trying to say with Alex Tram most like you
hang around people that have money, you learn their lessons,
and you just become a sponge, yes.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
And apply it. Don't be a sponge. Sit there, do
something right?

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, right, like do something dot com please and like
and we're still not like our business bank account bounced
twice in June because of payments, like we have to
like I stopped. I'm bouncing from insurance to media, so
our cash flow doesn't exist right now.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I'm the cash flow clean now because I had that
saying we'll talk about that on my next yeah. Yeah,
and that's the real privately, I want to talk to
you about that for real, because my sister.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
And I had that same Oh we'll chat please, yes,
we'll chat. Because you are way bigger than we and.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
My white And this is why I say I'm marry up.
This is why it matters so much to have people
in your corner.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
In June, I made the decision that I'm gonna have
my assistant take over the insurance business. So we're still
gonna do everything we need to do. And he's killing it,
like he is making more money than me.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Like that's the power ocean guys, get out the data way.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
He is killing it, but that means my cash flow
stop for my insurance.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah, right, understood.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
And then I had a couple of deals that I'm like,
all right, they're going to close into and they didn't
closet you. So here I am a thirty one year
old man with a brand new son. Our businessman counts
bouncing right, Like that's I understand. Talk about humbling, Let's
talk about stress, talk about all those things. And my
wife and I were talking because I'm trying to build
this like podcast business and other things, and we were like,

(51:46):
should I just get a job? This is like a
month ago she would just should just get a job,
Like is this dream dumb? Should I quit the podcast?
Should I quit this? And this is how much she
is like a rock and how it matters who you
marry and matters who your partner is, because she's like, Dylan,
do you believe in yourself? And then because I believe
in you, And we sat down for two hours, and

(52:09):
we basically like I always tell people to put like
a timeline on things just to protect yourself. So like
we're like, we have until the December. Let's build something
amazing in six months.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
And then all of a.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Sudden, June was hard, and then all of a sudden,
I sold my first podcast consulting thing, and next and
we keep going and all of a sudden, like we
have forty proposals out there and then now like and
then all of it. But it's mindset because I when
that happened, it's embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
You know, it could be embarrassed.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Yeah, you know, you don't look like it's not fun
to say it's fun.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I'm just trying to buy wealth with foods. And it's stressful.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
And it could have been so easy for me to
say this is too much, too hard, I'm gonna go
get a job.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, that's mindset.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
And and but when you have that support structure, because
my environment with my wife is what kept me up.
And don't get me wrong, I was stressful. I guess
I still struggle a lot with stress. I think that's
why it affects some health systems. And we're working through that.
But at the same time, like having the people that
can pull you out of that and those people you
can call and be like and then have that authentic communication.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Facts.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I'm struggling, man, one more thing I'll tell you and
then I'll let you've finished. There's an entrepreneur who's had
it rough. He's about a fifty year old man. I
respect the heck out of this dude. He has out
over one hundred patents. He's an engineer, he's an inventor.
He literally invented the self driving cars for GM nice.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
He is smart.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Arry he went on his own start his own company
called NIFT and he is so smart, but he's not
a sales guy.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
He analysis you were talking about rowing.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
All of a sudden he had to lay off and
his family was working for layoff family last year it was.
And so we sat down for coffee and this fifty
five year old man with this thirty year old man,
we're just buying over the fact that sometimes it doesn't
go our way. Then like what are we going to
do about it? And we both left that coffee like, yeah,
but we had that moment together. Yeah, so you guys

(54:11):
deserve that moment.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
But see you going back.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
It's all environmental, which is your heart is growing inside
of an environment and then your mind comes. Well, your
mind's in your heart too, But I'm saying your brain
comes after and other things come after. And I did
this quote and I'm pulling it up now, Well, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Do this quote. Let me let me be very very
quite candid and honest.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
I paraphrased and changed the quote so I wouldn't be
plagiarizing stealing.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Yep. Yeah, let's be clear.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
And it says the mistake holds the next strategy right,
the mistake in and of itself holds the next strategy right.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
And so a lot of times.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
When we you know, June happened, looked like something happened
to me in May June as well.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Maybe it was just that time, right, But.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
To be honest with you, was it really embarrassing or
was it really your opportunity to not be embarrassed?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
It's like, how are you looking at that right?

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Right? And so spectrum right allows us to be right,
and perception and perspective allow us to become right. There's
different in variance in that, but my point in saying
that is that I think that you're on a spectrum
right now in your life because the wealthing you're naturally

(55:34):
wealthy and you're naturally abundant. But it's like, I want
to see it accumulated, all right, I want it. It's cute, doctor, Oh,
but I want to see you know what I'm saying my.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Bank account say something, right?

Speaker 3 (55:45):
And so now I'm sitting here with six figures worth
of credit, right, and I want to read this to
you because it goes to your point of environment and
your mindset, right, And.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
So I wish Syria would talk to me. She might
not tauch me, but hey, Siri.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
How do you get six figures worth of credit? She's
not going to read it to me, but basically what
the system will tell you when you when you research
that or google that, Like I have six figures worth

(56:25):
of credit, which goes into environment, which goes into application
of environment, which goes into seeing these opportunities not as embarrassment,
but how not to be embarrassed? Right, And so I
was like, cause, while we're talking about my credit, right,
I was just like, look, how do you how did.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I get here? I don't even remember when or what
it happened.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
When when Douglas Aza told me that I was a millionaire.
I did not know, nor did I care, and nor
do I care now. I don't care. What I do
care about is the fact that I spend more time
at home than I do outside of my home. I
spend more time not working than I do exchanging my
time for dollars that I care about more than the money. Now.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I'm great to have the status, but my goal is.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Not to say, oh, I'm a first generation millionaire and
you can be too, And if you buy my program
for six hundred ninety nine dollars and twenty two cents
a month, then I'll show.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
You how to do it as well. You know.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
No, it's like no, no, no, Dylan, what do you
really want? And what I see in your eyes?

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Right? Which I love the movie Frost. Have you seen
that the cartoon?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (57:25):
Yeah, he was with Frost Frost. You just watched that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
So the point was each of them had a gift.
I cry every time I watch it.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
And it's so excu when the kid finally sees him.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Come on, you're just right, and it's like bro.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
But Santa Claus was speaking to him and said the
wonder like he had wonder in his eyes and that's
what made him. Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny had
this and that, and Jeff Frost he was like, you.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Have an energy.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
And so anyway, my point is is that when you
decide to hone in on like, your money should be
making you more money than your podcast. Your money should
be making you more money than your job or your work,
or your effort, your hours, your dollars, your time, your energy,
your money should be doing all that, right, And so

(58:19):
your relationship with money is based on the environments that.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
You create, sure, right, And so this is what I'm saying.
And so I'm saying is to say.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
That when I I don't even need to read that,
I know what happened when I researched it. When I
researched this, it said, the reason why you have six
figures worth of credit is because you have a seven
hundred and forty credit score, because you have over six
figures in income, because you have it.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Started telling me all this, you right, because I'm researching, like,
how does that happen? Now? AI does not know that
I'm talking about me. It's reading to me.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Whatever I put in the system, you get what you give, right,
And so I said all that to say that I
want you to be a master like you are. You're
already there, but I want you to master the art.
I say, dylaning, I don't know how else to say this, right, because.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Everyone doesn't have your energy. You say all they like
my eyes.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
It's not your eyes, it's whatever's behind the way you
look at people.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
The way you dealing is like perfection. I'm embarrassed right now. No,
it's the way you're dealing.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
You happen to have the name Dylan England, which is
an amazing name by the way, for anybody right brand
and stuff. But I'm with your wife on do you
believe in yourself? And I think what she's saying is
what are you doing with the belief of yourself?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Well, how are you manifesting from that and not just
manifesting like.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Oh, you know, say it three times and write it
to visually all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I'm not saying that's bad, but I'm just saying it's
something about the way you dealing that I want you
to believe in whatever number you see or whatever amount
you see, and I I want you to know that
it's already there, right And it's like it's that one
phone call that one person that won this, that won that,
and we think sale, But it's really not that you're

(01:00:11):
activating something here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
And I do not call this another hobby.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Everybody, y'all correct them, Okay, do not call this at
It's your ministry, it's your passion, it's your truth, is
your WHI is or you is your this? Because your
children are gonna watch this, your grandchildren, You're the people
around you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
You say you have no family there, but there are people.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Watching you and your wife saying, man, these kids, right,
these kids are doing well, they're making it or whatever.
Like you've got a platform that can really change the
way people activate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
You're an activator.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I don't know how else to say that, right, Like,
you activate things very well in your own genius. And
I think your genius is going to pay you beyond
sums of money that you can have in a bank account.
And I mean real money, not that old you know
you're gonna be rich and all that. I mean like
literally like more money than you can notice. Stand with
it because I believe that God can trust you with

(01:01:04):
money and that you're going to distribute it correctly, whether
it be within your bloodline or within your community within
the space of what you're I see you being trusted
because you don't mind going around activating people, so it's
not a hobby.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Well, thank you. That was very kind.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I mind the dylaning's been a mindlaning and a mind yeah,
oh my goodness, this will thank you. And I struggle
with taking compliments. I appreciate that a lot. And I
think sometimes like more people need to be oh mind
or be the O myyer when maybe there's someone that's
listening comporting to someone else like that. And I think
that was a big encouragement.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
It's very sweet and it means a lot because sometimes
you know, you lose sight and you struggle, and so
that means a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
And I appreciate that a lot. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
All while you're telling me my bank account, was this
that the third I'm like, nah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, it's just yeah and and and I think sometimes
just we need that person to come along side, hold
hand and pull us up. So I appreciate that was
very kind. And maybe that's what this show is about.
This is you know, it's that this is real. This
is two real episodes in a row. Dude, like this
is it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Man? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Like yeah, like this is it and so, and I
appreciate you a lot, and thank you for all your
help behind the scenes and our phone calls and assumes
and saying.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
And you're an activator. You've activated me. I mean we
haven't talked about it in detail, but we will. You've
activated me. Like, remember I was walking around here clandestine, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I had the hoodie on. Yeah, and now you got
I got the bright yet, Yeah, you come in. This
is my real like, this is my true me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
This is who you would have met that heay, But
I was looking for something and I thought I was
coming here looking for whatever. And I knew I was
supposed to be dealing with you. And I told you that,
and I walked away with you. I came back for you.
I've been communicating with you. You are an activator, just
like I'm a connector. And it's easy to say these things,

(01:03:00):
but walking it out and getting paid for it a
little different energy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
That's our next step. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
And then there's a lot of gut feelings that go
into this too, right, there's a lot of like, man,
I feel like this relationship is the right place.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
That's affect well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Anyway, before we jump in next the next thing we
go another fifteen much wors I'd love to thank you,
and that's what I do for all my guests. I
give them an opportunity to promote something, plug something where
can people find more about you? And anything that you
would like to promo on the show. Will make sure
it's a description for our listeners find it, but go ahead.
What would you like then to know?

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Best case scenario is wubb dot meet doctoro dot com
and whatever whatever I have going on is in there
free ebooks, how to get to my network, the ow
my network, how to connect with me, work with me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I do all things strategy. I know how to say
that now because I didn't know what the heck I
was doing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I'm doing everything all the time, but I do all
things strategy, mainly in socioeconomics, so perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Well, thank you, this has been fun.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
You did it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
You get on the show and shout out to Isaiah's
been just producing like a fiend. And thank you guys
for watching this episode of the Dyllan England Show. As always,
like common subscribe to the friend family member some of
that you think will be blessed for this episode. Spread
the love in the community. We are growing We're going
fast and hop on or you're gonna miss the ride.
But thank you, appreciate you, Peace, Cool

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