May 12, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode, I sit down with Jason from Pulse — the parent company of Parler and PlayTV — to unpack the real story behind Parler’s takedown, what Pulse is building now, and why creators and users are finally going to start getting paid for what Big Tech’s been taking for free.
We talk about everything from Jason’s time in the Bush administration to launching companies in tech and politics, to why decentralization and infrastructure actually matter. Plus, we get into mental health, running, censorship, Dr. Malone, the mRNA vaccine, and a whole lot more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Parlor is a microblogging platform, but really I think more
than anything else, it's a monument what shouldn't happen on
any sentient political spectrum, which is the crush dissenting voices
with their own money, the entire like mesh up. It
was like that message in twenty one was just an
excuse to get it offline.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, because when in twenty twenty you had Parlor the
fastest growing social media.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Out on the world, I think will be the only
social network in the world besides Facebook that owns its
own server infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Without users, Facebook doesn't exist. But the user's not paid
anything to posts.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
There, delivering value back to people on the one thing
they've been given away for free since they had been
a social media and that's their data.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're going to take a slice of the pie and
pay you because you are the one creating the opportunity
for money to be had.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Right, exactly what I want to do.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I want to talk about polls today.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
A lot of people are excited about the Parlor stuff,
and obviously on my other show, I've talked a lot
about my partnership with Parlor and that kind of stuff.
But before we do that, man, I don't know much
about you, so this is going to be really cool.
I'm going to be like learning live, like my listeners
will be about your story a little bit, and then
we're going to be able to jump into Pulse and
some cool things that you guys are doing. So if
(01:16):
you wouldn't mind before we start, give me like a
two thousand foot overview of kind of like how you
landed here with Pulse, Like just a couple like how
do we get here?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah? Well, I grew up in Iowa, worked in the
Bush administration until two thousand and eight, started a couple
of companies in Minnesota. Close friend worked a lot in
the sports and entertainment space for about fourteen years and
twenty twenty I kind of came back in as a
pubical consultant, produced a lot of ads that people might
(01:51):
have seen and stuff like that, and worked on elections
through twenty twenty two into twenty twenty four and after
the twenty The kind of animating force of that was
to see Donald Trump reelected for me personally, so after
that happened, it was what do you want to do next?
And for me, like getting back at attack made a
lot of sense, and the Pulse company is like so
(02:13):
much more than just parlor. It's like a piece of it,
and it was really attractive proposition to come here and
help blend that together.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Do you have a favorite You said you started multiple companies.
Do you have like a favorite company you started, or
like a favorite project that you worked on, like it
was kind of like your baby and you just loved
that whole experience.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah. Yeah. One of my good friends from growing ups,
the CEO of it has been since twenty right now.
Fan Maker is awesome. It is a loyalty platform SDK
that's out there for hundreds of sports teams.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Could you dumb that down for me because I don't
know what that means to my listeners.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Like what if you were a season ticket holder at
a stadium and you scan your season ticket app, They're like,
okay for a hot dog or software is underpinning it?
Got it? Wow? Well that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, and you're still in did you come up with
that idea or how'd that idea?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Like? Does that? I mean it evolved over about sixteen
years of running the company. That's awesome, man. I think
the first generation of that software is twenty thirteen. Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, that's that's uh.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's always interesting with entrepreneurs because most entrepreneurs see some
sort of problem they try to kind of like create
a product to fix it.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Is that kind of in this situation? What happened with you? Guys?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
There a fanmaker like you saw I can do this
better where it's cleaner, and you just like, I guess
how do you even get in that like text space?
Like if someone you created an app, like, how does that?
How does that all work? I mean because of our
a lot of our listeners, is the reason I asked
that question. I mean, I have a creary why demographic
of people.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Create the wrap? I like writing the code? Yeah, I mean,
and then you just do it. It works. But I
don't know. I've always always been somewhere entrepreneurial, like I
want to know how something works, why it works, how
it can be better?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And you said you meant you worked a little bit
with the Bush administration some stuff in politics. Do you
have like a favorite role or thing that you did
within your political consulting or.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Like general about favorite I would say like the most
like life trajectory changing thing was internship at twenty one,
So I stayed on for like seven to nine months,
I forget exactly in White House political okay, And that
was brilli impactful. I met a lot of really cool people,
had some great internship. I'd say the biggest thing was,
(04:25):
like my writing improved. I'll never forget. I was drafting
a political briefing and turned it into my boss at
that point in time, and it came back and it
was like fifteen pages, right because it's going to go
to the president going in on an event political background.
And it came back and was edited to six. Wow.
And the lesson there was, don't write something that is
(04:48):
a possibility. Be direct, be concise, communicate clearly. And that's
stuff I really internalized for the rest of my life.
And yeah, I'll never forget that. It was like mortifying
point in time.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Would you say that that writing skill could be entrepreneurs
listening to this too? Like what you just said was interesting.
You said when you write something, you said, be direct,
say that one more time.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know that's in the very direct, be concise, be factual.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, do you feel how how do you think is
like young entrepreneurs could apply that to their business, their life,
like their emails, Like is this something that like writing
as a whole.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I think in entrepreneurship, like you're presenting a solution to
a problem like universally right, right, so you should be
able to clearly identify what problem you're solving and what
the answer is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I feel like that's a big problem for dreamers, right,
Like I'm a dreamer. I know when we were talking,
I said, like a massive proposal with all these thing yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Like it was like six pages.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm like, we could do this, or we could do this,
and narrowing that down to concise like this is it.
I feel like it's really hard for people like me,
Like that's a that's a skill, Like that's something that's
not easy to do.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah. I mean if you I mean, if you're aiming
at the right target and you've identified it, like you're
gonna make a lot more headway quick quickly than if
you're trying to do dozens of different things. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, I mean that's a good lesson for entrepreneurship to
or just anything. I mean, and a lot of times
you can work backwards too, write m that's a good
that's a good way to do it. The thing I
wanted to ask is, yeah, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I'm a huge believer in that, Like what what's
in state? What it's stuff to get the in state?
How do you break it up into small chunks like hours, pretty,
et cetera. You know, funny thing like it picked up
like like ultra marathons, marathons and whatnot, like a few
years ago, and U like on that to figure out
(06:40):
like how I can get a specific pace. It's like,
here's what my VO two max needs to be. This
is how long my stride needs to be.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Ability to max.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's a measure of aerobic capacity, and like this is
what the you're oh yeah, ye, I mean I just
I broke down. I broke down like what my metrics
would be to get the marathon time I want to get,
which I want to want to get to fifty five
and not there yet, have worked to do this year,
but just broke it down into algebraic equations.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So what's a what's your average mild time right now?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Like my fastest yeah, last three years. I think the
fastest mile I put down is five oh two.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
If I know my How how old are you right now? Jason?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Forty four?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Holy mother? That's insane? So wait, wait, so did you
have you.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Always been into running or is this like a no passion?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean running was a necessity grown up because I wrestled,
So it's like stay in shape. Yeah, it was still
well cut.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Wad I run to the fridge a lot like that, said,
I do? I run run back to the office, a
lot of cardio cardio there. My wife is my wife's
here's the deal, Jason. My wife's Italian. Oh and so
I was constantly I graduated high school at one sixty three.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Okay, yeah, I know I was half myself. Yeah, I
literally yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And then then I went to college, and then I
was stayed in shape. And then I met her and
she's like baking croissants and like making homemade Pasta's like,
what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Man?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Like I'm just like so, I'm trying to lose it.
But you picked up running as a hobby later, yeah,
Like why it's like for people like me, I enjoy running,
but like I don't love it, Like.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, I never didn't do it. I would say, like,
you know, I did in my thirty seted Drathlons for
a while, and I would like, go do it, but
like picking it like as a goal and like a
daily mental break was just a way to handle stress
more than anything else. And that's been really nice for that.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, you texted me yesterday and you were like, sorry, dude,
got lost on my run.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I did, and I was like, how far is this
guy running?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yesterday? I was a little under seven. It wasn't like
just sure, run before.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
The office, but like wimpy seven miles. No.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I went out, went out the bike trail and then
I ran past the road to get off and whatever.
I mean when you're in a different town.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Like, yeah, you're it's not like a mile block.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, it's not like it map in front of him.
When you're out there, you're just trying to like when's
your next radund on May tenth? Cool? How far marathon Minnesota?
I'm going to shoot like three twenty three, twenty two
time on that one?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What's uh?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Like what an average amateur forty four year old time is?
I mean, I feel like that's a great time. Yeah,
I don't. I'm trying not to like measure. I'd like,
there are always going to be people better than me,
and like, but you don't some people behind you know, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Not really worried about that. It really is like can
I can I get to where I want to go?
And like was I am I better today than I
was yesterday? Yeah, And like focusing on that I think
is a much more healthy way to approach it.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I agree, And I think a lot of people
and I love what you said with the whole the region.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Why you run. It's a good mental break, It's a
good way to get us percent.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think a lot of people And I joke I
do work out, by the way, there was a joke
like I do run more than the fridge. And I
think a lot of people should find some sort of
physical hobby at some one hundred percent. And I think
depression could think a lot of people like sit on
the couch and scroll.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, I mean you want to talk about that, like
like if you're feeling depressed, like go take some magnesium
and yes, and get some physical activity, Like you're gonna
feel better pretty quick. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I talked to uh Erica Donald's Byron Donald's wife. So
she came on the show and this is gonna rabbit
trail and we'll come We'll come right back to UH.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And she came on the.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Show and her son, So in Florida, her son, the
school said that he needed ADHD medication, not a doctor
to the school. So uh, it was really weird because
she's like, she goes to do a preacher to teacher conference,
like your kidneys to be on drugs, and she's like why,
She's like two high energy, can't focus. So they just
(10:43):
kind of got him more physical activity. They're like, no,
we're not doing this. They pulled him out of the school,
never put him on any type of ADHD medication, just
got him involved in a lot more like activities and
things like that and made it all the way through.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Now he's in college lawyer.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And her point was she was just saying, she's like,
so many children are being put on like drugs and
they're going home playing Fortnite for eight hours. It's like, honestly,
that kid procatic needs to play sport and they'd be
like in great shape. And that was kind of her point.
That's what she does a big school choice girl. But like,
that's kind of what you're saying, Like a lot of
people I feel like that are sad or depressed just
getting some sort of like physical activity in and you
(11:18):
found that with because your job's kind of stressful.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I feel like I don't know, I mean can be yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And so finding that running, I think a lot of
people should find that thing. So but let's talk about Pulse, man,
So this is exciting. I am more on the Parlor
and Play TV side.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So I don't really know much about Pulse as an
organization or Pulse is the parent company of Parlor.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
What is Pulse? Give me an overview for the listeners
and myself.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, so Pulse, I mean, yah, sir. The CEO is
just brilliant, like on so many levels. So pulsees edge Cast, yeah,
which it doesn't make I don't think a lot of
your listeners probably know. I don't. I heard it. Yeah.
So edge Cast is a CDN and web security company
(12:11):
that is just best in class. Like it takes like
in their new portal I was going through yesterday, it
takes like ten minutes to set up a CDN for
like a major company, which is like what's a CD
in content delivery network? Okay, So they have twenty eight
data centers in nine countries and basically, if you want
your website to load faster, you want video buffering, you
(12:32):
want to stream the super Bowl, which they were one
of the tenants streaming the Super Bowl, and to be
this year, you you need servers that are close to people,
Like you can't be like running on a single droplet
in digital ocean or just due to latency yeah, okay,
late andcy So you need to be have your content
distributed across multiple servers, so like you can distribute what
(12:56):
that load looks like as you swell speak and like
they're just a phenomenal team. So they've been around about
twenty years, been known by Yahoo Verizon and bounced around
and we were able to acquire them. I think the
official closes day was the Monday after the Super Bowl.
(13:17):
So it is about Yeah, it's about one hundred and
twenty one hundred and twenty five people, huge server infrastructure,
some just brilliant minds. And you know, I think it
goes back if you look at like two years ago
or roughly like twenty percent of the world's Internet traffic
like was going through like their server setup.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well and now it's part of poles.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, that's it. That's insane. Yeah, And then you have
the parlor piece.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Then you have the parlor piece, which I mean I
really look at as it's a monument of free speech.
So I don't care what side of the political aisle
you were on. Parlor got taken out by a Stanford
Institute report that was new Internet safety thing that was
set up by three Joe Biden staffers in twenty twenty
(14:05):
one that saided like Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram as
sources of misinformation being propagated by Parlor, like mainstream conservative
news personalities, right, And it was funded by taxpayer dollars.
So like that entire institute and that report were funded
by the National Science Foundation, which I don't know, what's
scientific about taking out a political opponent seems kind of absurd. Yeah,
(14:28):
very yeah. So you know, Parlor is a micro blogging platform,
but really I think more than anything else, it's a
monument what shouldn't happen on any set of political spectrum,
which is the crush dissenting voices with their own money
for your political game.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, they fear what they can control. I mean, that's
that's what you see in history, and that's what they
did at Parlor. And the quick interjection there, and then
we'll keep going through what Pulse is like, I literally
because I know currently Parlor has been a more conservative platform,
like that's his what it is.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And I just put a post on Parlor and I was.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like, hey, guys, would you be free like open to
having people of love we had ideologic on this platform
because I believe it true free speech, you should have
both sides represented, and literally everyone in the comments that
are conserves, they're.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Like absolutely, like we would love that.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We would love at least some sort of like non
pure echo chamber at its capacity. And so that's the
beautiful thing of what Parlor can be. It can be
that free speech ability to come here.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We're not going to control what you say.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
We're not going to get you know, Twitter files came
out with Elon Musk and Biden administration was putting pressure
on Twitter to boost certain puss take down certain posts
like that's just not going to happen on this appena.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I think the if you look back at the like
the last five years of CISA and government censorship and
what happened, I think the most absurd thing that you
can point to is to deperson the inventor of the
MRINA vaccine and doctor Malone like the patent hold of
of the item because he had concerns about it instead
(16:05):
of having like an open dialogue, like your deep platform
from every single thing out there. And I think that's
one of the reasons, Like doctor Malone's written about parlor
and how it was the only place to go and
whatnot for a while. But I mean, you just look
at the amount of gas lighting them is done by
official government sources since twenty twenty with COVID, and you
(16:26):
know it's jarring.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So can you say, so I know a little bit
about doctor Malone. He actually just retreated my video on Twitter,
which is really cool. But like, so what so he's
the patent holder of the mr inn a vaccine.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Is that what you Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, because I knew he was a biochemist and I
knew he worked on vaccines.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, and he's the patent holder of that technology. So
you know, and I'm not sure this is a processional here,
So this is conversational. But if you look at the
MRINA vaccine technology, like, there's a lot of immuno therapeutics
that were worked on or that you can read about
(17:04):
where it would be like taking that to genetically engineered
against a specific tumor site with really high efficacy. Okay,
So you're talking about coming in and essentially making a
vaccine that's unique to someone's genetic profile. And at no
point in time was that technology ever designed to be
mass distributed because you don't know every educase that you're
going to run into, and billions of people that you're
(17:27):
injective genetic material that right becomes part of them. Right.
So I mean that that was what you were speaking
out against, and you just saw like the only outlet
left for him was parlor. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And the one thing with that, like he was just
quis like, guys, we need to look at this, right.
It was even just like this is not a good thing.
And the moment you disagree with the mass, because you
see that a lot of time assigned.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Could be disagreeing with the mass, it was the moment
that you were a voice that the mass might listen to.
So it was much more the the bureaucratically control in
what could be heard. Yeah, and that's a much more
dangerous proposition than like standing against the mass or being
in the sensing point of view. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'd love to talk to him about because I and
we'll get back to that, but I just had a
doctor he's studyed be a doctor.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He was in my house.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
We were talking about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We actually talked about doctor Malone a little bit, and
it was this, it's this weird thing where like on
one side, people like this guy, like he is going
to school to help people, and I think a lot
of doctors do help people. But then there's this also
weird thing where like if you disagree with the scientific community,
there isn't an open dialogue. If it's something that they
(18:38):
don't like, they will cancel you, and they will they
will rip your titles away, and it's this weird.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Like it's a weird thing.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean scientific I think they would want to have
disagreeing opinions to learn from each other. That's like what
you'd hope for in the medical and scientific community.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But like it's proof of doctor Malone.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And there's other people that if they say something maybe
too extreme or what pharma doesn't like or what will
make the money, they're gone.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And it's it's just a weird thing in the in
the industry.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, the regardless of the topic,
when people are like there's scientific consensus, it's like the
pursuit of science is like truth. It's definitely not consensus.
Otherwise we'd still think the world was flat, you know, like, yeah,
nothing would have advanced. Like challenging the the status quo
is like the purpose of science, the purpose of scientific
(19:26):
It was.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Weird when they're like, no, no, this is the truth.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It's a weird thing. But that's the whole point.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Upon I mean, yeah, it's like when you come out
and say that as the subject matter expert, empowered by
the most powerful country on earth, like you should be right.
You know, within a few years you just were proven wrong.
Like that's that's yeah, that's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
What I'm talking about this like that myself.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, Like it's like the beautification of Saint Foul cheap
by like half the population is the one of the
oddest things over lived there.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So like before twenty twenty and this is the good
So I remember, I know, I knew about Parlor from
co I remember when the app came out and I
was like, okay, cool. But then, but before twenty twenty,
I was one of those people that was like, most
people in government are probably good and they probably want
what's best for us, and like, you know, you have
some maybe conspiracy theorists that are weird, but like, honestly,
there's probably no elites, and like I was just one
of those, like I was living on cloud nine. Twenty
(20:22):
twenty happened and the weirdness is weird of all that,
and I'm like, this isn't right. And then I remember
being one of the first people in my circle groups
being like this is for sure a man made disease,
like it's too good to like be like it's too good.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
And what was it? The fact that the common cold
is shutting down the world, or the spike words, the.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Fact that you could have it?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
This is it?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
You could have the disease.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I don't you know, because you know YouTube will denoetize
me if I say COVID too many times, So.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Like you could have it but not know you had
it and just be a carrier of it. That's what.
Like that's insane.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
So like when when I heard that, I was like, Okay, yeah,
this is this is whild And next thing, you know,
wuhan turned out it was true. And then all of
a sudden that if you wear a mask you're safe.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh, actually masks don't do anything.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Actually you need And I'm like it's just it was
just that was the moment for me that I'm like
everything I thought to be.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think my favorite moment and there was when you
had like opinion pieces and papers like truly arguing for
internment camps of non vaccinated people and like that was
an accepted level of discourse over the disease that you're
referring to. I mean, it's it's just comical. It's like
(21:37):
it was like watching a black mirror. Yeah, it was
like living through a black Mirror episode.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And like the next three years wed just like athletes
just keel over on the on the it's just like
this weird. It's a weird thing. And this is and
we can go back to Polday. I love, this is
how I showed up. We just talked about right of
stuff like it's just weird, man. And so that's the
beauty of a And that's why Parla got kicked off man,
like that. It's the same reason with doctor. I mean
it's like they couldn't be controlled and so aw I said, okay,
(22:05):
come off because they use J six as a as
an excuse, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That was I mean, there is it's like one of
those things like you and I don't know how much
you can really talk about it, but like you look
at like them targeting like j Fit six was planned
on Parlor. I mean that's just not true. Say, like
we're not you know, like we don't don't have dms,
Like anything that people post is public. Yep, Like you
(22:32):
want to go see what people said, Like you don't
need to subpoena us, like you can. You could have
just like Google searched it.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
It was funny comics.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Like none of these part part like didn't even know
it was a thing, and so the entire like mesh
up it was like that message in twenty one was
just an excuse to get it offline. Yeah, because when
in twenty twenty you had Parlor the fastest growing social
media app in the world. That's a free speech, uncontrolled platform. Yeah,
like that they don't like that. And now that's the
(23:02):
cool thing about the blockchain side of all of this too,
Like I feel like it's the perfect time where Bride.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Just walk around the corner.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, that's the cool part about what you guys are
doing on the blockchain side.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And I don't know if you can, I mean we'll
talk more Bride about that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Let's circle back up on the pull side, so partlor
is one of them. Play TV, you know, I would
caution is like a like early version streaming platform, not
streaming platform, but video platform. Really out there. Moving over
(23:36):
to the edge cast server ecosystem, I think will be
the only social network in the world besides Facebook that
owns its own server infrastructure, which really does make it
in canceball at that point in time. But that's component,
and we're working on the what would be the primary home,
(23:57):
which will be the community app that has a ton
of ton of fun features in it that will be
coming at the start of Q three and that'll be
called Pulse, So that ecosystems really I'm really excited about
how it's all going to come together with the amount
of engineers we have in this team and everyone's experience
and like where we're heading.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Can you give us a little more insight in that
community app? Is there anything else you're allowed to kind
of tease for the listeners? You know, I want to
come down the pipeline.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You know, at this stage, I want to keep that
like close hold. But I would say like that app
is going to be extraordinarily a political perfect like a
political so that you know, like launch partners on that.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Or so stay tuned is basically what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, like no, no golden nuggets yet, but it's you said,
it's more community.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'll come back on okay, like like when we're rolling
public with that sort of perfect.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
And empowering all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You have the blockchain piece, yeah yeah, OPTI Yeah, so
optio is a proof of impact level one blockchain sitting
on built in the Cosmos infrastructure, which for non blockchain
people it means like you can build another token on
top of it. It's its own ecosystem built from scratch
in the Pulse family. And the neat thing about that
(25:22):
proof of unpact protocol is like when you take an
action on our platform, it's animized and tracked, so like
going back to your account allows you to place a
tokenized reward attached to it. And that really is a
methodology of like delivering value back to people on the
one thing they've been given away for free since the
advent of social media, and that's their data. So not
(25:45):
only on our platforms. Are with the ad modules, are
you're going to have your traditional revenue splits? Are you
going to have like the branded opportunities like you do
on Facebook, or you're going to have micro transaction opportunities
like you do on apps that I won't name. But
as a creator, like having the interactions and whatnot that
your content get you, you can know that you're benefiting
(26:08):
from that on the optio side. And I think more
importantly that your viewers and like your fans that are
coming and consuming your content are receiving recognition and some
share that that pie as well.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, that's so that's the interesting thing.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
And I'm going to try to regurgitate what you said
and just make sure I understand it correctly.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, So yeah, I probably need to hone that in
so I can get it down to my point of
like we you should be able to communicate in one sentence.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, right for our previous combo. Uh So, basically, there
are there's ad dollars. Let's say, like use another company
like Facebook for example, there's ad dollars that happen and
every click share everything's tracked for Facebook, everything's tech, and
that there's there's monetized value for every action that happens.
(26:57):
And what Parlor's saying is, hey, instead of one hundred
percent of your data as a user going too the
ad company, we're splitting some of that off and paying
the user on your own actions, correct, because there is
ad dollars there.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
There's money to be had on those actions.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
But instead of one hundred percent going to an ad
company like on other apps, we're going to take a
slice of the pie and pay you because you are
the one creating the opportunity for money to be had,
right Exactly Whereas on Facebook, every like share posts you
make without users, Facebook doesn't exist, but the user's not
paid anything to post there. It's just like you are
the money maker but not making any money. Yeah, Whereas
(27:36):
what we're you're trying to do it at Pulse and
Parlor and everything is pay the user because without the user,
parlor doesn't exist. So you pay them for those actions
as a slice of the pie. Am I is that
a Can I understanding.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That kind of im at a high level? It's there,
And I would say, like, you know, major creators that
can monetize and whatnot make great money on Facebook, right,
So like on but.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Even the non creator side though, even any users for us, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
It's the person that's sitting there scrolling two hours a
day on social media when they should be doing something else,
Like millions and millions of people across the world is
seeing a reward for their actions.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's cool, that's really cool. And then PlayTV is awesome.
It's being built out, it's going on. It's a really
cool thing. And the one thing that I think is
awesome about this whole thing, and you can touch on
that for creators especially, So I have multiple social media
platforms on my show. Some do better than others, Like
on YouTube we have almost three thousand followers, but on
TikTok we only have a couple hundred, and so I'm
(28:40):
trying to build multiple social media apps at the same
time and grow them or.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Whatever omni channel built, yeah, right all over the place.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It's tough. But the nice thing about Parlor is this.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You have the social feed of Parlor app, you know,
like your normal text based kind of social app, but
that's also integrated with PlayTV, which is a video player yep.
And so if I get a follow on PlayTV, it
also follows me on Parlor. If I got to follow
on Parlor, it also gives me PlayTV. So I can
build two ecosystems as a creator at the same time.
And like, to me, that's awesome because I now know
(29:11):
how I don't have to worry about like, oh I
got to follow on parlor, hopefully they follow my PlayTV account.
They're all integrated. I guess just a really that's a
really cool thing for creators. Was when did were you
part of the PlayTV idea? Like when did you guys know?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I came in after that?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Do you remember when they decided why why a separate
video player?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Like what's important about like a separate app instead of
just integrating it all like X does or Facebook.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, I think you will see kind of like
two channels on that front. So I think you will
see everything kind of integrated together and specialized home and
like that's the direction that we're driving for the consumer experience.
I think the the tree split of data being chair
being able to post on multiple platforms at once and
whatnot comes from what PlayTV uh into as it has
(30:01):
the full power of edge cast behind it, and when
you're able to have a live streaming platform that has
a lower latency than any other social media network out
there right now, being able to bridge in on a
white label type solution for an OTT app opens up
the world of you know, working with having having that
(30:27):
product then be a solution for anything that's live streaming
in the world. So if you talk about having an
app that's broadcasting like a regional sports network or app
on Apple TV that was streaming.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Pickaball than the having its own set.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
The core server side piece of PlayTV immediately fulfills that
when it moves over to the edgeclas servers. So from
a business angle, it really was one of the big
things you have on any thing is like how do
you get content? Well, if you're able to deliver a
better server solution to dozens and dozens of media entities
(31:07):
and then have the other front consumer facing apps like
those media entities, probably we're going to utilize your apps
like they do the other ones.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
And on a consumer side, it's also nice for search
ability because like if I'm on X and I find
a video that I'm never gonna find a video again,
like it's disappeared in the feed forever, and it's really nice.
On the consumer side, there's two places. One is video
only and that's awesome and so I love that from
a consumer side.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So we're wrapping up, we're almost done.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Before you leave, what is what could you tell the
listeners like how can they follow?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
How can they get more information?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Where they could they go for like just Parlor related news,
OPTR related news, Like where could they go just to
kind of keep following the journey, get updates.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That if you're on Parla the community account, it's going
to have regular news pieces pull push through it. We
have the EdgeCast websites up. You'll see presence of each
one of these entities as they like go to market
and over the remainder of this quarter pop up for Polseparent,
Pulse Network, et cetera, and each one of them have
like its own blog, press release, community type section of updates.
(32:15):
But I would say like if you're on Parlor, like
your core audience, like follow the community account. Police does
a great job running and interacting with people.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Last question before we wrap up, Yeah, Pulse, what are
you most excited about going into the rest of this year?
Is there a you don't have to tell us the exactly,
but like, is there something that you're like, this this
thing I'm most excited about coming soon?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, July seventh, July seventh, Yeah, very excited for it
right now, So.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Stay tuned to my show stay tuned because I'll make
sure that I drop whatever information when it drops on
my show, and make sure you go follow me on Parlor,
follow the community account on Parlor. Thank you guys so
much for coming to this episode of the DILLL English Show. Jason,
it was a pleasure, brother Like, thanks for hanging out
all right, guys.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We'll see you on the next show. Peace. The cutest
is the subten per
Parlor is a microblogging platform, but really I think more
than anything else, it's a monument what shouldn't happen on
any sentient political spectrum, which is the crush dissenting voices
with their own money, the entire like mesh up. It
was like that message in twenty one was just an
excuse to get it offline.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, because when in twenty twenty you had Parlor the
fastest growing social media.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Out on the world, I think will be the only
social network in the world besides Facebook that owns its
own server infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Without users, Facebook doesn't exist. But the user's not paid
anything to posts.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
There, delivering value back to people on the one thing
they've been given away for free since they had been
a social media and that's their data.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're going to take a slice of the pie and
pay you because you are the one creating the opportunity
for money to be had.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Right, exactly what I want to do.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I want to talk about polls today.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
A lot of people are excited about the Parlor stuff,
and obviously on my other show, I've talked a lot
about my partnership with Parlor and that kind of stuff.
But before we do that, man, I don't know much
about you, so this is going to be really cool.
I'm going to be like learning live, like my listeners
will be about your story a little bit, and then
we're going to be able to jump into Pulse and
some cool things that you guys are doing. So if
(01:16):
you wouldn't mind before we start, give me like a
two thousand foot overview of kind of like how you
landed here with Pulse, Like just a couple like how
do we get here?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah? Well, I grew up in Iowa, worked in the
Bush administration until two thousand and eight, started a couple
of companies in Minnesota. Close friend worked a lot in
the sports and entertainment space for about fourteen years and
twenty twenty I kind of came back in as a
pubical consultant, produced a lot of ads that people might
(01:51):
have seen and stuff like that, and worked on elections
through twenty twenty two into twenty twenty four and after
the twenty The kind of animating force of that was
to see Donald Trump reelected for me personally, so after
that happened, it was what do you want to do next?
And for me, like getting back at attack made a
lot of sense, and the Pulse company is like so
(02:13):
much more than just parlor. It's like a piece of it,
and it was really attractive proposition to come here and
help blend that together.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Do you have a favorite You said you started multiple companies.
Do you have like a favorite company you started, or
like a favorite project that you worked on, like it
was kind of like your baby and you just loved
that whole experience.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah. Yeah. One of my good friends from growing ups,
the CEO of it has been since twenty right now.
Fan Maker is awesome. It is a loyalty platform SDK
that's out there for hundreds of sports teams.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Could you dumb that down for me because I don't
know what that means to my listeners.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Like what if you were a season ticket holder at
a stadium and you scan your season ticket app, They're like,
okay for a hot dog or software is underpinning it?
Got it? Wow? Well that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, and you're still in did you come up with
that idea or how'd that idea?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Like? Does that? I mean it evolved over about sixteen
years of running the company. That's awesome, man. I think
the first generation of that software is twenty thirteen. Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, that's that's uh.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's always interesting with entrepreneurs because most entrepreneurs see some
sort of problem they try to kind of like create
a product to fix it.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Is that kind of in this situation? What happened with you? Guys?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
There a fanmaker like you saw I can do this
better where it's cleaner, and you just like, I guess
how do you even get in that like text space?
Like if someone you created an app, like, how does that?
How does that all work? I mean because of our
a lot of our listeners, is the reason I asked
that question. I mean, I have a creary why demographic
of people.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Create the wrap? I like writing the code? Yeah, I mean,
and then you just do it. It works. But I
don't know. I've always always been somewhere entrepreneurial, like I
want to know how something works, why it works, how
it can be better?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And you said you meant you worked a little bit
with the Bush administration some stuff in politics. Do you
have like a favorite role or thing that you did
within your political consulting or.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Like general about favorite I would say like the most
like life trajectory changing thing was internship at twenty one,
So I stayed on for like seven to nine months,
I forget exactly in White House political okay, And that
was brilli impactful. I met a lot of really cool people,
had some great internship. I'd say the biggest thing was,
(04:25):
like my writing improved. I'll never forget. I was drafting
a political briefing and turned it into my boss at
that point in time, and it came back and it
was like fifteen pages, right because it's going to go
to the president going in on an event political background.
And it came back and was edited to six. Wow.
And the lesson there was, don't write something that is
(04:48):
a possibility. Be direct, be concise, communicate clearly. And that's
stuff I really internalized for the rest of my life.
And yeah, I'll never forget that. It was like mortifying
point in time.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Would you say that that writing skill could be entrepreneurs
listening to this too? Like what you just said was interesting.
You said when you write something, you said, be direct,
say that one more time.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know that's in the very direct, be concise, be factual.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, do you feel how how do you think is
like young entrepreneurs could apply that to their business, their life,
like their emails, Like is this something that like writing
as a whole.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I think in entrepreneurship, like you're presenting a solution to
a problem like universally right, right, so you should be
able to clearly identify what problem you're solving and what
the answer is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I feel like that's a big problem for dreamers, right,
Like I'm a dreamer. I know when we were talking,
I said, like a massive proposal with all these thing yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Like it was like six pages.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm like, we could do this, or we could do this,
and narrowing that down to concise like this is it.
I feel like it's really hard for people like me,
Like that's a that's a skill, Like that's something that's
not easy to do.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah. I mean if you I mean, if you're aiming
at the right target and you've identified it, like you're
gonna make a lot more headway quick quickly than if
you're trying to do dozens of different things. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, I mean that's a good lesson for entrepreneurship to
or just anything. I mean, and a lot of times
you can work backwards too, write m that's a good
that's a good way to do it. The thing I
wanted to ask is, yeah, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I'm a huge believer in that, Like what what's
in state? What it's stuff to get the in state?
How do you break it up into small chunks like hours, pretty,
et cetera. You know, funny thing like it picked up
like like ultra marathons, marathons and whatnot, like a few
years ago, and U like on that to figure out
(06:40):
like how I can get a specific pace. It's like,
here's what my VO two max needs to be. This
is how long my stride needs to be.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Ability to max.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's a measure of aerobic capacity, and like this is
what the you're oh yeah, ye, I mean I just
I broke down. I broke down like what my metrics
would be to get the marathon time I want to get,
which I want to want to get to fifty five
and not there yet, have worked to do this year,
but just broke it down into algebraic equations.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So what's a what's your average mild time right now?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Like my fastest yeah, last three years. I think the
fastest mile I put down is five oh two.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
If I know my How how old are you right now? Jason?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Forty four?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Holy mother? That's insane? So wait, wait, so did you
have you.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Always been into running or is this like a no passion?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean running was a necessity grown up because I wrestled,
So it's like stay in shape. Yeah, it was still
well cut.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Wad I run to the fridge a lot like that, said,
I do? I run run back to the office, a
lot of cardio cardio there. My wife is my wife's
here's the deal, Jason. My wife's Italian. Oh and so
I was constantly I graduated high school at one sixty three.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Okay, yeah, I know I was half myself. Yeah, I
literally yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And then then I went to college, and then I
was stayed in shape. And then I met her and
she's like baking croissants and like making homemade Pasta's like,
what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Man?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Like I'm just like so, I'm trying to lose it.
But you picked up running as a hobby later, yeah,
Like why it's like for people like me, I enjoy running,
but like I don't love it, Like.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, I never didn't do it. I would say, like,
you know, I did in my thirty seted Drathlons for
a while, and I would like, go do it, but
like picking it like as a goal and like a
daily mental break was just a way to handle stress
more than anything else. And that's been really nice for that.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, you texted me yesterday and you were like, sorry, dude,
got lost on my run.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I did, and I was like, how far is this
guy running?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yesterday? I was a little under seven. It wasn't like
just sure, run before.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
The office, but like wimpy seven miles. No.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I went out, went out the bike trail and then
I ran past the road to get off and whatever.
I mean when you're in a different town.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Like, yeah, you're it's not like a mile block.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, it's not like it map in front of him.
When you're out there, you're just trying to like when's
your next radund on May tenth? Cool? How far marathon Minnesota?
I'm going to shoot like three twenty three, twenty two
time on that one?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What's uh?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Like what an average amateur forty four year old time is?
I mean, I feel like that's a great time. Yeah,
I don't. I'm trying not to like measure. I'd like,
there are always going to be people better than me,
and like, but you don't some people behind you know, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Not really worried about that. It really is like can
I can I get to where I want to go?
And like was I am I better today than I
was yesterday? Yeah, And like focusing on that I think
is a much more healthy way to approach it.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I agree, And I think a lot of people
and I love what you said with the whole the region.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Why you run. It's a good mental break, It's a
good way to get us percent.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think a lot of people And I joke I
do work out, by the way, there was a joke
like I do run more than the fridge. And I
think a lot of people should find some sort of
physical hobby at some one hundred percent. And I think
depression could think a lot of people like sit on
the couch and scroll.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, I mean you want to talk about that, like
like if you're feeling depressed, like go take some magnesium
and yes, and get some physical activity, Like you're gonna
feel better pretty quick. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I talked to uh Erica Donald's Byron Donald's wife. So
she came on the show and this is gonna rabbit
trail and we'll come We'll come right back to UH.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And she came on the.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Show and her son, So in Florida, her son, the
school said that he needed ADHD medication, not a doctor
to the school. So uh, it was really weird because
she's like, she goes to do a preacher to teacher conference,
like your kidneys to be on drugs, and she's like why,
She's like two high energy, can't focus. So they just
(10:43):
kind of got him more physical activity. They're like, no,
we're not doing this. They pulled him out of the school,
never put him on any type of ADHD medication, just
got him involved in a lot more like activities and
things like that and made it all the way through.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Now he's in college lawyer.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And her point was she was just saying, she's like,
so many children are being put on like drugs and
they're going home playing Fortnite for eight hours. It's like, honestly,
that kid procatic needs to play sport and they'd be
like in great shape. And that was kind of her point.
That's what she does a big school choice girl. But like,
that's kind of what you're saying, Like a lot of
people I feel like that are sad or depressed just
getting some sort of like physical activity in and you
(11:18):
found that with because your job's kind of stressful.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I feel like I don't know, I mean can be yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And so finding that running, I think a lot of
people should find that thing. So but let's talk about Pulse, man,
So this is exciting. I am more on the Parlor
and Play TV side.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So I don't really know much about Pulse as an
organization or Pulse is the parent company of Parlor.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
What is Pulse? Give me an overview for the listeners
and myself.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, so Pulse, I mean, yah, sir. The CEO is
just brilliant, like on so many levels. So pulsees edge Cast, yeah,
which it doesn't make I don't think a lot of
your listeners probably know. I don't. I heard it. Yeah.
So edge Cast is a CDN and web security company
(12:11):
that is just best in class. Like it takes like
in their new portal I was going through yesterday, it
takes like ten minutes to set up a CDN for
like a major company, which is like what's a CD
in content delivery network? Okay, So they have twenty eight
data centers in nine countries and basically, if you want
your website to load faster, you want video buffering, you
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want to stream the super Bowl, which they were one
of the tenants streaming the Super Bowl, and to be
this year, you you need servers that are close to people,
Like you can't be like running on a single droplet
in digital ocean or just due to latency yeah, okay,
late andcy So you need to be have your content
distributed across multiple servers, so like you can distribute what
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that load looks like as you swell speak and like
they're just a phenomenal team. So they've been around about
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official closes day was the Monday after the Super Bowl.
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So it is about Yeah, it's about one hundred and
twenty one hundred and twenty five people, huge server infrastructure,
some just brilliant minds. And you know, I think it
goes back if you look at like two years ago
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like was going through like their server setup.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well and now it's part of poles.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, that's it. That's insane. Yeah, And then you have
the parlor piece.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Then you have the parlor piece, which I mean I
really look at as it's a monument of free speech.
So I don't care what side of the political aisle
you were on. Parlor got taken out by a Stanford
Institute report that was new Internet safety thing that was
set up by three Joe Biden staffers in twenty twenty
(14:05):
one that saided like Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram as
sources of misinformation being propagated by Parlor, like mainstream conservative
news personalities, right, And it was funded by taxpayer dollars.
So like that entire institute and that report were funded
by the National Science Foundation, which I don't know, what's
scientific about taking out a political opponent seems kind of absurd. Yeah,
(14:28):
very yeah. So you know, Parlor is a micro blogging platform,
but really I think more than anything else, it's a
monument what shouldn't happen on any set of political spectrum,
which is the crush dissenting voices with their own money
for your political game.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, they fear what they can control. I mean, that's
that's what you see in history, and that's what they
did at Parlor. And the quick interjection there, and then
we'll keep going through what Pulse is like, I literally
because I know currently Parlor has been a more conservative platform,
like that's his what it is.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And I just put a post on Parlor and I was.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like, hey, guys, would you be free like open to
having people of love we had ideologic on this platform
because I believe it true free speech, you should have
both sides represented, and literally everyone in the comments that
are conserves, they're.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Like absolutely, like we would love that.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We would love at least some sort of like non
pure echo chamber at its capacity. And so that's the
beautiful thing of what Parlor can be. It can be
that free speech ability to come here.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
We're not going to control what you say.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
We're not going to get you know, Twitter files came
out with Elon Musk and Biden administration was putting pressure
on Twitter to boost certain puss take down certain posts
like that's just not going to happen on this appena.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I think the if you look back at the like
the last five years of CISA and government censorship and
what happened, I think the most absurd thing that you
can point to is to deperson the inventor of the
MRINA vaccine and doctor Malone like the patent hold of
of the item because he had concerns about it instead
(16:05):
of having like an open dialogue, like your deep platform
from every single thing out there. And I think that's
one of the reasons, Like doctor Malone's written about parlor
and how it was the only place to go and
whatnot for a while. But I mean, you just look
at the amount of gas lighting them is done by
official government sources since twenty twenty with COVID, and you
(16:26):
know it's jarring.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So can you say, so I know a little bit
about doctor Malone. He actually just retreated my video on Twitter,
which is really cool. But like, so what so he's
the patent holder of the mr inn a vaccine.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Is that what you Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, because I knew he was a biochemist and I
knew he worked on vaccines.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, and he's the patent holder of that technology. So
you know, and I'm not sure this is a processional here,
So this is conversational. But if you look at the
MRINA vaccine technology, like, there's a lot of immuno therapeutics
that were worked on or that you can read about
(17:04):
where it would be like taking that to genetically engineered
against a specific tumor site with really high efficacy. Okay,
So you're talking about coming in and essentially making a
vaccine that's unique to someone's genetic profile. And at no
point in time was that technology ever designed to be
mass distributed because you don't know every educase that you're
going to run into, and billions of people that you're
(17:27):
injective genetic material that right becomes part of them. Right.
So I mean that that was what you were speaking
out against, and you just saw like the only outlet
left for him was parlor. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And the one thing with that, like he was just
quis like, guys, we need to look at this, right.
It was even just like this is not a good thing.
And the moment you disagree with the mass, because you
see that a lot of time assigned.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Could be disagreeing with the mass, it was the moment
that you were a voice that the mass might listen to.
So it was much more the the bureaucratically control in
what could be heard. Yeah, and that's a much more
dangerous proposition than like standing against the mass or being
in the sensing point of view. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'd love to talk to him about because I and
we'll get back to that, but I just had a
doctor he's studyed be a doctor.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He was in my house.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
We were talking about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We actually talked about doctor Malone a little bit, and
it was this, it's this weird thing where like on
one side, people like this guy, like he is going
to school to help people, and I think a lot
of doctors do help people. But then there's this also
weird thing where like if you disagree with the scientific community,
there isn't an open dialogue. If it's something that they
(18:38):
don't like, they will cancel you, and they will they
will rip your titles away, and it's this weird.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Like it's a weird thing.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean scientific I think they would want to have
disagreeing opinions to learn from each other. That's like what
you'd hope for in the medical and scientific community.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But like it's proof of doctor Malone.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And there's other people that if they say something maybe
too extreme or what pharma doesn't like or what will
make the money, they're gone.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And it's it's just a weird thing in the in
the industry.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, the regardless of the topic,
when people are like there's scientific consensus, it's like the
pursuit of science is like truth. It's definitely not consensus.
Otherwise we'd still think the world was flat, you know, like, yeah,
nothing would have advanced. Like challenging the the status quo
is like the purpose of science, the purpose of scientific
(19:26):
It was.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Weird when they're like, no, no, this is the truth.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It's a weird thing. But that's the whole point.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Upon I mean, yeah, it's like when you come out
and say that as the subject matter expert, empowered by
the most powerful country on earth, like you should be right.
You know, within a few years you just were proven wrong.
Like that's that's yeah, that's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
What I'm talking about this like that myself.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, Like it's like the beautification of Saint Foul cheap
by like half the population is the one of the
oddest things over lived there.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So like before twenty twenty and this is the good
So I remember, I know, I knew about Parlor from
co I remember when the app came out and I
was like, okay, cool. But then, but before twenty twenty,
I was one of those people that was like, most
people in government are probably good and they probably want
what's best for us, and like, you know, you have
some maybe conspiracy theorists that are weird, but like, honestly,
there's probably no elites, and like I was just one
of those, like I was living on cloud nine. Twenty
(20:22):
twenty happened and the weirdness is weird of all that,
and I'm like, this isn't right. And then I remember
being one of the first people in my circle groups
being like this is for sure a man made disease,
like it's too good to like be like it's too good.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
And what was it? The fact that the common cold
is shutting down the world, or the spike words, the.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Fact that you could have it?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
This is it?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
You could have the disease.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I don't you know, because you know YouTube will denoetize
me if I say COVID too many times, So.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Like you could have it but not know you had
it and just be a carrier of it. That's what.
Like that's insane.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
So like when when I heard that, I was like, Okay, yeah,
this is this is whild And next thing, you know,
wuhan turned out it was true. And then all of
a sudden that if you wear a mask you're safe.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh, actually masks don't do anything.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Actually you need And I'm like it's just it was
just that was the moment for me that I'm like
everything I thought to be.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think my favorite moment and there was when you
had like opinion pieces and papers like truly arguing for
internment camps of non vaccinated people and like that was
an accepted level of discourse over the disease that you're
referring to. I mean, it's it's just comical. It's like
(21:37):
it was like watching a black mirror. Yeah, it was
like living through a black Mirror episode.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And like the next three years wed just like athletes
just keel over on the on the it's just like
this weird. It's a weird thing. And this is and
we can go back to Polday. I love, this is
how I showed up. We just talked about right of
stuff like it's just weird, man. And so that's the
beauty of a And that's why Parla got kicked off man,
like that. It's the same reason with doctor. I mean
it's like they couldn't be controlled and so aw I said, okay,
(22:05):
come off because they use J six as a as
an excuse, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That was I mean, there is it's like one of
those things like you and I don't know how much
you can really talk about it, but like you look
at like them targeting like j Fit six was planned
on Parlor. I mean that's just not true. Say, like
we're not you know, like we don't don't have dms,
Like anything that people post is public. Yep, Like you
(22:32):
want to go see what people said, Like you don't
need to subpoena us, like you can. You could have
just like Google searched it.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
It was funny comics.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Like none of these part part like didn't even know
it was a thing, and so the entire like mesh
up it was like that message in twenty one was
just an excuse to get it offline. Yeah, because when
in twenty twenty you had Parlor the fastest growing social
media app in the world. That's a free speech, uncontrolled platform. Yeah,
like that they don't like that. And now that's the
(23:02):
cool thing about the blockchain side of all of this too,
Like I feel like it's the perfect time where Bride.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Just walk around the corner.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, that's the cool part about what you guys are
doing on the blockchain side.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And I don't know if you can, I mean we'll
talk more Bride about that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Let's circle back up on the pull side, so partlor
is one of them. Play TV, you know, I would
caution is like a like early version streaming platform, not
streaming platform, but video platform. Really out there. Moving over
(23:36):
to the edge cast server ecosystem, I think will be
the only social network in the world besides Facebook that
owns its own server infrastructure, which really does make it
in canceball at that point in time. But that's component,
and we're working on the what would be the primary home,
(23:57):
which will be the community app that has a ton
of ton of fun features in it that will be
coming at the start of Q three and that'll be
called Pulse, So that ecosystems really I'm really excited about
how it's all going to come together with the amount
of engineers we have in this team and everyone's experience
and like where we're heading.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Can you give us a little more insight in that
community app? Is there anything else you're allowed to kind
of tease for the listeners? You know, I want to
come down the pipeline.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You know, at this stage, I want to keep that
like close hold. But I would say like that app
is going to be extraordinarily a political perfect like a
political so that you know, like launch partners on that.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Or so stay tuned is basically what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, like no, no golden nuggets yet, but it's you said,
it's more community.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'll come back on okay, like like when we're rolling
public with that sort of perfect.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
And empowering all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You have the blockchain piece, yeah yeah, OPTI Yeah, so
optio is a proof of impact level one blockchain sitting
on built in the Cosmos infrastructure, which for non blockchain
people it means like you can build another token on
top of it. It's its own ecosystem built from scratch
in the Pulse family. And the neat thing about that
(25:22):
proof of unpact protocol is like when you take an
action on our platform, it's animized and tracked, so like
going back to your account allows you to place a
tokenized reward attached to it. And that really is a
methodology of like delivering value back to people on the
one thing they've been given away for free since the
advent of social media, and that's their data. So not
(25:45):
only on our platforms. Are with the ad modules, are
you're going to have your traditional revenue splits? Are you
going to have like the branded opportunities like you do
on Facebook, or you're going to have micro transaction opportunities
like you do on apps that I won't name. But
as a creator, like having the interactions and whatnot that
your content get you, you can know that you're benefiting
(26:08):
from that on the optio side. And I think more
importantly that your viewers and like your fans that are
coming and consuming your content are receiving recognition and some
share that that pie as well.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, that's so that's the interesting thing.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
And I'm going to try to regurgitate what you said
and just make sure I understand it correctly.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, So yeah, I probably need to hone that in
so I can get it down to my point of
like we you should be able to communicate in one sentence.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, right for our previous combo. Uh So, basically, there
are there's ad dollars. Let's say, like use another company
like Facebook for example, there's ad dollars that happen and
every click share everything's tracked for Facebook, everything's tech, and
that there's there's monetized value for every action that happens.
(26:57):
And what Parlor's saying is, hey, instead of one hundred
percent of your data as a user going too the
ad company, we're splitting some of that off and paying
the user on your own actions, correct, because there is
ad dollars there.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
There's money to be had on those actions.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
But instead of one hundred percent going to an ad
company like on other apps, we're going to take a
slice of the pie and pay you because you are
the one creating the opportunity for money to be had,
right Exactly Whereas on Facebook, every like share posts you
make without users, Facebook doesn't exist, but the user's not
paid anything to post there. It's just like you are
the money maker but not making any money. Yeah, Whereas
(27:36):
what we're you're trying to do it at Pulse and
Parlor and everything is pay the user because without the user,
parlor doesn't exist. So you pay them for those actions
as a slice of the pie. Am I is that
a Can I understanding.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
That kind of im at a high level? It's there,
And I would say, like, you know, major creators that
can monetize and whatnot make great money on Facebook, right,
So like on but.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Even the non creator side though, even any users for us, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
It's the person that's sitting there scrolling two hours a
day on social media when they should be doing something else,
Like millions and millions of people across the world is
seeing a reward for their actions.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's cool, that's really cool. And then PlayTV is awesome.
It's being built out, it's going on. It's a really
cool thing. And the one thing that I think is
awesome about this whole thing, and you can touch on
that for creators especially, So I have multiple social media
platforms on my show. Some do better than others, Like
on YouTube we have almost three thousand followers, but on
TikTok we only have a couple hundred, and so I'm
(28:40):
trying to build multiple social media apps at the same
time and grow them or.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Whatever omni channel built, yeah, right all over the place.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It's tough. But the nice thing about Parlor is this.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You have the social feed of Parlor app, you know,
like your normal text based kind of social app, but
that's also integrated with PlayTV, which is a video player yep.
And so if I get a follow on PlayTV, it
also follows me on Parlor. If I got to follow
on Parlor, it also gives me PlayTV. So I can
build two ecosystems as a creator at the same time.
And like, to me, that's awesome because I now know
(29:11):
how I don't have to worry about like, oh I
got to follow on parlor, hopefully they follow my PlayTV account.
They're all integrated. I guess just a really that's a
really cool thing for creators. Was when did were you
part of the PlayTV idea? Like when did you guys know?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I came in after that?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Do you remember when they decided why why a separate
video player?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Like what's important about like a separate app instead of
just integrating it all like X does or Facebook.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, I think you will see kind of like
two channels on that front. So I think you will
see everything kind of integrated together and specialized home and
like that's the direction that we're driving for the consumer experience.
I think the the tree split of data being chair
being able to post on multiple platforms at once and
whatnot comes from what PlayTV uh into as it has
(30:01):
the full power of edge cast behind it, and when
you're able to have a live streaming platform that has
a lower latency than any other social media network out
there right now, being able to bridge in on a
white label type solution for an OTT app opens up
the world of you know, working with having having that
(30:27):
product then be a solution for anything that's live streaming
in the world. So if you talk about having an
app that's broadcasting like a regional sports network or app
on Apple TV that was streaming.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Pickaball than the having its own set.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
The core server side piece of PlayTV immediately fulfills that
when it moves over to the edgeclas servers. So from
a business angle, it really was one of the big
things you have on any thing is like how do
you get content? Well, if you're able to deliver a
better server solution to dozens and dozens of media entities
(31:07):
and then have the other front consumer facing apps like
those media entities, probably we're going to utilize your apps
like they do the other ones.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
And on a consumer side, it's also nice for search
ability because like if I'm on X and I find
a video that I'm never gonna find a video again,
like it's disappeared in the feed forever, and it's really nice.
On the consumer side, there's two places. One is video
only and that's awesome and so I love that from
a consumer side.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So we're wrapping up, we're almost done.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Before you leave, what is what could you tell the
listeners like how can they follow?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
How can they get more information?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Where they could they go for like just Parlor related news,
OPTR related news, Like where could they go just to
kind of keep following the journey, get updates.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That if you're on Parla the community account, it's going
to have regular news pieces pull push through it. We
have the EdgeCast websites up. You'll see presence of each
one of these entities as they like go to market
and over the remainder of this quarter pop up for Polseparent,
Pulse Network, et cetera, and each one of them have
like its own blog, press release, community type section of updates.
(32:15):
But I would say like if you're on Parlor, like
your core audience, like follow the community account. Police does
a great job running and interacting with people.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Last question before we wrap up, Yeah, Pulse, what are
you most excited about going into the rest of this year?
Is there a you don't have to tell us the exactly,
but like, is there something that you're like, this this
thing I'm most excited about coming soon?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, July seventh, July seventh, Yeah, very excited for it
right now, So.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Stay tuned to my show stay tuned because I'll make
sure that I drop whatever information when it drops on
my show, and make sure you go follow me on Parlor,
follow the community account on Parlor. Thank you guys so
much for coming to this episode of the DILLL English Show. Jason,
it was a pleasure, brother Like, thanks for hanging out
all right, guys.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We'll see you on the next show. Peace. The cutest
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