May 20, 2025 • 53 mins
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In this episode, I sit down with Yasser Elgebaly, CEO of Pulse, and the man helping lead the rebirth of Parler, the launch of PlayTV, and the tech stack behind a free-speech revolution. From growing up in Egypt to building enterprise software for Microsoft and AT&T, to launching blockchain infrastructure for creators, Yasser's journey is packed with insight.
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In this episode, I sit down with Yasser Elgebaly, CEO of Pulse, and the man helping lead the rebirth of Parler, the launch of PlayTV, and the tech stack behind a free-speech revolution. From growing up in Egypt to building enterprise software for Microsoft and AT&T, to launching blockchain infrastructure for creators, Yasser's journey is packed with insight.
We talk about freedom of speech, decentralization, creator empowerment, monetization through Opio, and how PlayTV is giving power back to the people. If you care about where the internet is going, don’t miss this one.
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Thank you to Cool Beans Coffee Brewery for your partnership.
#TheDillonEnglandShow
ABOUT THE DILLON ENGLAND SHOW:
Our mission is to provide authentic conversation with interesting people, covering personal growth, entrepreneurship, and cultural truth—without the fluff.
Connect with Dillon:
https://twitter.com/dillonmengland
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dillonmengland/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dude, how did you get here? What got you into entrepreneurship?
What gout you in a business?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I came to this country because of freedom of speech
and how they're taking away in twenty nineteen twenty twenty
when I saw the President of the United States getting
kicked by a intern in Twitter, so I was like,
no way, I'm just gonna build something that nobody else
can kick you out. When Mark Zuckerberg built Facebook back
in two thousand and four, it was beautiful, idea was amazing,
(00:24):
connecting people together. But now it turns into becoming a
marketing broker platform. We turned from a technology company, social
media company into a movement.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I told my dad, Parlor is going to be huge,
and he said why. He said, because they believe in
what they're doing. How do you find the right people?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
They find you. You don't look for them. They find you.
Just like money, you don't look for money, it looks
for you. If you think about Steve Jobs when he
built Apple, he built Apple not to make money. He
built Apple to solve problems and conveniencely bigger than the money.
Look at up on now right money comes later.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You have single handlely priabe and the most encouraging person
I've met in twenty twenty five and it's been this
like it's been a good journey, but it's taught me
a million lessons. And then talking to other entrepreneurs in
Michigan or on the podcast has been good for me
(01:20):
because like a lot of times, it could be really lonely,
like you've been grinding, grinding, grinding, and then like the
payoff hasn't happened yet, and it's really easy just to
like that's it. I'm getting a nine to five, you know,
or you think you're about already close a big client
and they push off, or something like every.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Day I woke up in the morning. I always think
about it this way, the stress that you go through,
so you're like any entrepreneur starts a business or to
start an idea, it's always grinding and it's always failure
every day. You don't see success at the beginning, you
see it at the end. It's like I told you,
(01:58):
it's like an end of movie. I don't know if
you've seen Bollywood movies, but they always get on the
movie and it's always sadness and it's always depression, and
then in the end is always had that's always the
entrepreneur journey for the starting a business, but it always
asks yourself. It's just like, what are you trying to
(02:19):
do in life? What's your goals in life? Because you
measuring as a failure could be a success for someone else.
And it's always like that goal that you put yourself
into this fancy world that's like, oh, I'm just going
to be a billionaire in six months. Okay, good luck
if you can have the capacity if you have to.
(02:40):
So you always ask yourself. It's like, I want my
goals in life to be sixty and not working for someone.
When I started my company back in twenty twelve, I
always thought about it this way, and I'm like, what
is my goals in life? I want to help other people?
(03:02):
And when you other, when you set that goal for yourself,
you want to help other people all your life. You're
set why because if you have a million dollars and
you give it to ten people, that's one hundred thousand dollars. Okay,
those ten people will become another ten thousand, another one hundred,
ten one hundred people, they go become another million and
another mariion. The network grows. This is how your network grows.
(03:24):
But if you take that million dollars for yourself, it's
going to always stay a million dollars. To grow it,
you have to grow it through people. That's connection, that's network.
So being being an entrepreneur is a curse, and mostly
it's because you are in a building mode for a
(03:45):
long time. But the best part about it is that
you you always look at yourself and if your solo
and if it's all about yourself, you will be successful
at some point, but it's not going to be a
long term success. So team is the most important elements
(04:06):
for success in any entrepreneur's business life ever. The team.
So when you wake up in the morning and you
know that you have someone that got you back, partners
and anything, and you always fair to them, that's the
pillar of success. Any idea in this world will work.
Anything you want to sell napkins, it makes money. You
(04:30):
want to sell elastics, PANDID that comes from China, you'll
make money. It's all about how you do your distribution
and how you get your network and growing your network
and all of that. So in any business, you define
your goals in your life and if you know that,
(04:55):
you achieve them and be grateful. Oh I've accomplished that,
and you always look back and it's like, oh my god,
ten years ago, I was nobody look at me now,
you know, so it's for me. It's just like what
are your goals in life and what you're trying to accomplish.
(05:16):
And the secret sauce for any entrepreneur is that you
get into the business, just jump in, take a risk,
have a good team, have an idea, and don't worry
about it. It will work. It will always work. How
do you find the right people? They find you. You
(05:38):
don't look for them. They find you. Just like money,
you don't look for money. It looks for you. The
chase people, you'll never find them. They always find you.
And if you keep hunting for people, it's just like
keep hunting and searching for money, you will never find them.
So when I started my company, people come to me.
(06:01):
He just sit there and tell them your idea and
they just join you. And the best investment you make
is that you make an investment in people. It's like, hey,
I can't pay you now, but if you stick with
me for a year or two, you grow it. And
the best advice is to be honest with anybody. Honesty
(06:23):
and integrity, your reputation is the most important thing ever
that will keep you forever happy. So it's funny you
say that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So for those that are listening, we have producer Isaiah
sitting back over there, and he told me that, what
about a year ago, Isaiah, About a year ago, Isaiah
was a server at a restaurant and he met ya
Ya was the first table U served something like that.
And I listen and Isaiah told me that he said
(06:56):
he served your table and apparently you said something about
the company or something. Isaiah said, I want to work
with that guy one day. And you have this ability
to attract people, and it's the same with me, Like
I met you at Amfest. You painted the vision of
what you guys were doing, and I'm like, I don't
know how, but I want to be involved. How is
(07:18):
this something that you've learned over time? Was there a mentors?
Has this just been how you've been just the ability
to attract good people to your organization.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And I'm going to say it again, honesty and integrity.
If humans are smart, if they sense honesty in you
and integrity, no matter what you tell them you were selling,
they would come join you. You can think of a
crazy idea and you walk into a bunch of people
and Starbucks and you tell them about it. They would
(07:47):
believe on you. How you say it is it comes
from the heart. People connect to the heart, and people
can smell bullshit from a mile away. So funny you
brought I see and you brought yourself. You know John?
John is my neighbor. Really yeah? Willis this guy? John? Yeah? Hey? John? So?
(08:13):
And John is a very quiet neighbor that doesn't talk.
And I always like and we know each other for
two years living together. And then I'm like, I brought John.
I'm like, John, come on, man, what are you doing?
And I'm like what are you doing? And I'm like
and then I was like, hey man, you can help
Come and help me. And John is busy, he has
a lot of clients. He's like, come on, help you
(08:36):
because he felt that I'm a genuine of what we're
trying to do. So it's about honesty and about believing
in people. Because here's here's the thing is that I'll
tell you a story. Is there is so much distraction
in this world beyond anything you've ever seen, and to
(08:58):
have focus on what you want in life is a
pillar of success. So back in the days and the
Romans when they when they were conquering the world, they
come back and with all these golds and all these
jewelries and all these ritual that they brought from all
these countries that they conquer, they walk in and the
(09:20):
people are so poor and they see this and they
get so excited, but Caesar don't give anything. So they
get so mad and so angry, and they revolt and
they they want to break up, and they want to
do a lot of crazy stuff. And then you know,
they go to the Caesar and says, Caesar, people are mad,
(09:41):
they're poor, they can't find food, and we walk with
all these stuff to them and they don't get anything.
He goes, you know what, he says, Let's bring the circus.
So they go to the Colosseum and people just go
there and forget everything. Why because he makes distract them.
(10:01):
So what you see right now in the world is
a big distraction for everything is to go look at TV,
you look at movies, you look at sports entertainment. I'm
not saying that we don't need to be in all
of that, but this is all distraction. And what you
learn from it. It distracts you from your daily life.
So if you have twenty four hours, you sleep eight hours,
(10:21):
you have sixteen hours left, and you sit there and
you start looking at what I need to do in
life and you focus. You need four hours a day
to focus. You become very successful. Now if you go
nights clubbing, restaurants, watching sports, watching all of that. I'm
(10:42):
not still saying don't watch sports, but I believe in
recreational sports, per sports for yourself, you will focus on yours.
And I'm talking about entrepreneurs. I'm not talking about public talk.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not talking about everybody like sports,
the Cowboys and a big cowboy fan. And it's just
(11:05):
when you start building your career, you have to focus. Now,
if you wake up in the morning and you have
nothing else to think about but yourself and your goals
and your success and your loved one and your family,
and you focus on that and you understand that you're
(11:25):
in a building mode, in a construction mode. For four hours,
any idea that you have and you believe in it
and you find the team, trust me, it becomes a
big success.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It's like you know what Kobe Bryant said, it is
like it's impossible to find someone that works harder than me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know, actually that is not true because I would
say I have found people working harder than me, and
what I do is delegate and basically work smarter or
not harder. No, it's not that. It's it's never been.
Everybody is smart in the world. I respect everybody smart
in this world. It's how you delegate and prioritize. Because
(12:10):
people don't know how to delegate and prioritize. An entrepreneur
and a CEO of a company best job for them
is to delegate and prioritize. This is important, but this
is more important. This is important, but this is more important.
Delegate that to this, delegate that to this. So you're
like playing a symphony.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Do you think that's what keeps entrepreneurs from growing is
the lack of maybe because they feel like their ideas
their baby and their company and they want the control
and so they don't delegate what they need to to scale.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Biggest example I'll give you is Apple. Steve Jobs. Apple
is the biggest startup company ever. They don't have VP
reports to a cp A report to CEO, report to
BO report, to a CFO. They have a flat structure
that all reports to Tim Cook or Steve Jobs. So
(13:03):
if you look at Apple, for example, same thing with
a WS there is no this is the boss and
I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna make sure that everybody
follows this. No, it's human innovation comes from trusting them,
believing in them, let them innovate. That doesn't mean the
crazy guy and telling hey, let's go to the moon.
We're gonna take a you know, a bus go to
(13:25):
the moon. Now, I'm talking about reality when you have
smart people. And again, everybody in this world is smart.
Don't think about IQ. Everybody is smart. We are God's creation.
He made us way smarter than the rest of the humanities.
And what was of creations were smarter than any other
creations that's being ever built in this world. I mean,
(13:48):
look at the Egyptian build the Pyramids till this minute,
the thing the Aliens built it. No, it's not I'm
a Egyptian and I know that was built by humans.
But when you look at the the entrepreneurs and the
business world, you look at success, and it's always the
CEO that delegate and prioritize and if you don't know
(14:12):
how to delegate. Then you grow amazingly, but you come
to the point that you can't scale. And when you
stop scaling, your business become a year or two and
it's gone. And again, everybody builds a business or a company,
they always build it for a small reason, which is
(14:35):
to make money. If you think about Steve Jobs when
he built Apple, he built Apple not to make money.
He built Apple to solve problems and convenience bigger than
the money. Look at Apple now. Money comes later. And
if you build then something. If you build something, you
always build something that you believe in is going to
make lives for other people way, way much better.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Are you familiar with Simon cynic So? Simon Sinek is
a is a I don't know what use, like a philosopher,
business whatever. And he says, find your why. That's what
he coaches is like why do you do what you do?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
It's not the what? Find your why? What gets you
up in the morning? What? What? Like?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Why are you do you want to make money? Like
what's the why behind everything? And that's kind of his
coaching is being like finding your why. I think he
has a book called literally Find Your Why. It's exactly
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Why is a question you ask yourself, But there is
one thing that you have to think about that. Do
not question the universe. The minutes you start questioning the universe,
the minutes you start questioning why you're here and not
knowing why you're here, that means you haven't found a
(15:47):
new purpose yet. The minutes you find new purpose, don't
question know your goals, know your purpose, have very clear
paths to the future. People they question why. I like that.
I always question why. But at the same time I
came into the realization that I'm done with questioning why.
(16:09):
I know why I'm here. I know what I'm doing,
I know what's next ten years, and it's time and
it's go time. It's building time, it's energy. So when
you can't find purpose in life, yes, you ask the
question why, But the minute you find it, it's go time. Go.
(16:30):
Now you sit here and you know your goal and
you believe in it. Waking up every day knowing your goal,
you ask yourself, is this truly what you want to do? Now?
If you have people around you that's questioning that, and
you worry about other people questioning it, there is nobody
(16:51):
in this world. Nobody will ever come to you and
say is this is the right goal? This is yes,
you got your answer. That's not anybody will come to
that level because that's God. Now you look at yourself
and you ask yourself, it's like, you know what, I
know my goal. My goal is to make a billion
(17:13):
dollars in ten years. You got to make ten billion
dollars in ten years, and you reach that goal, but
you find yourself not happy. So I'll go back and
zach why I found it. And my goal is to
be happy. Money doesn't make happy, it make you happy.
(17:34):
That money does not buy happiness. What buy happen is
is take that money and spend it on other people
and make them happy, because that would bring my exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So I'd love to if you wouldn't mind. I don't
know anything about your story, man, I don't know. I
know you've been I think the audience knows. I mentioned
your name before and another one of my shows. You
have single handling pride in the most encouraging person I
met in.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Twenty twenty five. Thank you and uh you.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Know doing insurance sales since twenty eighteen. Wanting to get
this podcast off the ground. kJ reaching out to me
via email and before I amfest and then meeting you
guys has breathed life into the possibility of a dream happening. Yes,
and so I want to thank you. I wanted to
thank you on the show because you, like my wife
will get tiary I talking about everything you guys have
(18:25):
done for us, and so I appreciate that a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Absolutely, But dude, how did you get here? Like what's
your story?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
If you wouldn't mind being like, what got you into entrepreneurship?
What got you into business? Did you you said you're
from Egypt? What brought you to the States?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
How did that all? Like? Like, where do you want
to start in your story? I'll leave that up to you.
So as told my story that I grew up in
Egypt and in Middle East. Will always uh, We'll always
have that fascination about Americans, and we always look at
the Americans as something that so fascinating for one reason,
(19:04):
freedom And every single country in the world they see
freedom in a different way, except Americans. They see it
in a completely different way. Like the world is this side,
the Americans on this side. It's just fascinating. So when
I was a kid, my grandma and grandpa, they're they're
(19:27):
they're all in politics, and we always look at George
Bush and they and the Russian American Cold War, and
we were grow we grow up that you know, Americans,
they have this integrity. And I was always fascinated by
how you know, you wake up and you look at
(19:48):
a country that is leading the world by example. And
so I just decided in the nineties, uh, to leave Egypt,
don't come to America to pursue my career. I had
a master degree in computer science and I said I
(20:10):
want to come to United States to finish my studies.
I came here and I was like, okay, you know what,
I think I'm going to work. I would try schools
that didn't like it, didn't like it, and I said,
I'm just going to go to the enterprise. So I
started my job in Microsoft back in the nineties, and
(20:30):
I started growing my career, you know, and I started
going into companies at and T, Cisco, all of these
big enterprise and then I just said it's not working.
I want to build something different. And in twenty twelve,
I start realizing that building your own company, building your
(20:53):
own career, fulfilling your dreams is where I think I
was meant to be. And I started in the cloud.
I'm a technologist in the cloud, and start building that company.
And then in twenty twelve twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, we
saw what happened with social media, and we saw what
(21:14):
happened with President Trump, and and we worked to his
team to build his own social media And at that
time I got fascinated by technology and social media. Why
because I was like, wait a minute, I came to
this world, to this country because of freedom of speech,
(21:36):
and now they're taken away. And I was like, there's
no way you tell me that this country is going
to fail. It's too big to fail. But I saw
that in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty when I saw that
man president, the President of the United States, getting kicked
by a I would say, a intern in Twitter. Yah,
(22:04):
they came emigrated to this country just like me because
I hate speech or whatever. They're misinformation exactly, a bunch
of bs. And I think, look at the world right now.
So I was like, no way, I'm just gonna I'm
just gonna build something that honestly, we who looked at
(22:28):
the President as an example. So It's like, how can
we make sure we build something that nobody else can
kick you out? So where do we start? Well, I
had the cloud. Well at the time Parlor was getting
out of getting kicked out from AWS. It was like, oh,
if we had Parlor, they would have never been kicked out,
(22:48):
So like oh wow. And then it was started building
the cloud and we mastered that, and we acquired companies
and we acquired softwares and we built that cloud. We
made sure that any cloud, any social media company that
would come to us and nobody will remove him. But
we didn't have the name brand. And then we started
(23:09):
hearing that Countye West buying Parlor. It's like, oh, it's
available for sale, let's jump on that. And then we
acquired Parlor in twenty three and the people that we
bought it from starboard Ryan Coins amazing guy. Love Ryan.
He's like, what are you going to do with that?
I'm like, well, we're just gonna see if we can
(23:30):
launch it. This is crazy. Do be careful. The FBI
and the DOJ is going to come after you. I'm like, man,
this is free country. Yeah, And I still believed in that.
And we launched it in forty five days and people
thought were crazy. Had half of my team quit. I
was like, oh my god, in twenty three, yeah, twenty four.
(23:51):
We launched it in twenty four February twenty four and
my team was like, you crazy, We're not gonna I
was like, okay, yeah, team from the Cloud and like
your other yeah, we had a because they don't understand
it's just like they have seventeen million people that change
(24:12):
the history of free speech, because you have January sixth,
you have people that literally twenty percent of Trump supporters
or part of users. So everybody thought that we're going
to just be a right wing platform, but they didn't
know that we still have the rif lift wing and
(24:32):
the right wing. But they don't understand this is no
such thing called light right wing. As American people American dreass.
I came here in the nineties when you know, Bill
Clinton was accused of all this bullshit, but he's still
the president and they still preserved his status. So the
mentality was different in the nineties, and then September eleven
(24:54):
happened and everything changed. So anyway, so I was like,
I was like, wait a minute, guys, wait, we have
things to come There's things. So we start building the
team not thinking about right wing, left wing, liberals, conservative.
It all made no sense at the beginning for a
(25:15):
lot of people. But when we start building the team
and people come to us, and we made the platform
way way much better, and we start attracting people that
is not about politics. Why because you have for an example,
I'll give you an example. Seventy five million people voted
for President Trump last week last year. Sure, right, but
(25:39):
there's three hundred and thirty million Americans. Well, there is
sixty five million voted for Camela. What happened. That's not
even fifty five percent. What happened to the fifty five
percent of Americans? They don't care, they didn't vote, They
don't believe in politics. They just want their normal life.
And what you see right now now is a country
(26:01):
is super divided and politics plays a big role in
vision in that vision, which is not fair. Why because
people care about sports, entertainment, media, you know, music, all
of the other stuff. Why don't Why the media is
focused only in politics. So we said, no, we're going
(26:23):
to build something that has nothing to do with politics.
But we still have the politics. And that's what we built.
PAULS and now paulse is something that allows people to
come that really don't care about politics. And we start
building other platforms and we build PlayTV and there you go,
(26:44):
come in and we start having pop cultures, stars, talkers
to come to our platforms. And what we're doing is
very simple, Dylan. What we're doing is building, focusing and
building things for the creators like you. Why because you
go to where YouTube and TikTok and Instagram. Okay, great,
(27:08):
but what is YouTube and TikTok and Instagram are doing
for the creators and the influencers Nothing but sending you
a paycheck at the end of the months. But are
they helping you grow in your business? Absolutely not? Right.
Are they helping you monetize from your content? Absolutely not
because all the contents goes to them. So we said,
we have one hundred and twenty six million entrepreneurs, influencers
(27:32):
and world right now, one hundred twenty six million. They
control sixty percent of the content that goes into all
these platforms. How can we get ten percent of these
and get them? The idea is that how you become
an entrepreneur for everything you do and empower you to
own your content, own your data on a platform is
(27:55):
built from ground up on freedom of speech. You want
a proof of concept, we'll give you parlor for example,
So on our platform, but it's being built by entrepreneurs
that cares so much about freedom of speech and freedom
of expressions because that terminology has been used by a
(28:16):
lot of people in the wrong way. There is freedom
of speech in Russia, yes, there is the freedom of
speech in China, yes there is. But the United States
is the beacon, and you turn off that beacon, the
world will go into darkness. So that's why we believe
that we have created the recipe, the perfect recipe for
(28:37):
creators and influencers to come use our technologies, our gadgets,
our big tech replacement to make sure that they will
never be canceled and they own their content and they
own their data, and their users they bring feels safe
because they're part of a VIP club that don't get
advertisement an annoying text saying come on buy this laptop
(29:02):
and buy this by buy this that, because we don't
use that against them. So how are you? How are you?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
There's going to be a lot of pushback to people
that aren't conservative that still say no, no, no, Parlor
is just a conservative app and it sounds like and
it's funny. I put a post out on Parlor last
week and I basically said, Hey, Parlor community, I know
it's mainly conservative. Would you be open on having people
with other ideologies on this platform? And every single user
(29:31):
said yes, we would love people not conservative on Parlor.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Good question. So, like, how do we re how do
you work? PLATV so same thing so PLATV video short
form first long form videos, and but I'm going to
give you some numbers. Here's going to change your perspective
about what we did. Was Parlor. Parlor when we came
in was ninety five ninety eight percent politics, was sixty
(29:58):
percent politics, forty percent non politics content right now, Wow,
And this was in one year. So yeah, when you
used to look at Parlor before, it was all annoying, boring,
same thing, same thing, friends, repeat it is about you know, president,
(30:19):
and about this against that. I don't like that, but
it's all one way. So the content is growing for
non politics we brought. I'll tell you how powerful part
it is. We're one hundred and sixty one hundred and
sixty seven countries in the world. We have really yeah,
(30:39):
we have people in Saudi Arabia, we have people in
South Africa, we have people in Brazil. We have we
have ten percent of the Saudi population and our platform
three hundred thousand. We have two hundred and fifty thousand Brazilians.
So it is a globe platform that is designed to
(31:02):
let people innovate and talk and don't influence them as
long as they're peaceful, and give them the tools that
everything they need. But take out one thing. The most
evil things are ever being created on first of ours,
that made social media the worst weapon ever, a's algorithm.
(31:24):
Take the algorithm away, don't do ranking, and don't do
for favoritism, and let the ranking based on the content.
Then people will be like, this is genuine. So I'm
not going to force you to recommend things to you.
But you recommend to me isn't irrelevant to me? And
(31:47):
you put me in a mood that I see all
what you give me is what you think this is it,
But that's not it for me. I want to see
other things. So we or doing with PlayTV and burst
is thinking about TikTok was a new algorithm. Think about that.
(32:10):
When Mark Zuckerberg build Facebook back in two thousand and four.
It was beautiful, It's brilliant. Idea, was amazing connecting people together.
What's better than that. I love to get on Facebook
to connect to my dad and my brother. But now
it turns into becoming a marketing broker platform. I want
(32:33):
to make a percentage out of that relationship. So how
bad that is? Like you connect me with my cousin,
but you make a percentage because you're going to sell
me something. So it turns out to be a beautiful
idea and it grows into that evil idea, which becoming
(32:53):
a marketing broker platform, and then it started putting that algorithm,
how much I make out of you is how become
become successful. That's why it's a two trillion dollar company, right,
That's why they have twenty five thousand data points on
every single use of that goes and was AI analytics,
(33:15):
and that's why Facebook turns from a social connection company
company into a marketing data mining company. So we did it.
We didn't do that. And every time you go to
any of these platforms, if you're not paying for anything,
if you're not paying for a product, you are the product.
(33:35):
And with that, they're making money off of you and
what that means a lot of people don't understand that. Okay,
I don't care. Let's make people, but how how unhumane
it is to take somebody's data and information about yourself,
about your digital identity and sell it to other companies.
Like does these people make money from that? Absolutely not.
(33:59):
But I'm going to give you a free email and
a free page to connect you with them with your dad.
And in turn of giving me your name number, phone number, email,
like your dislikes your no, you like your food? Where
do you eat? Where do you stay? But I'm going
to give you just this little thing here to connect
you with your dad and give me all the conversations.
(34:20):
And then I'm going to take all of that and
I'm going to sell it fifty times, one hundred times.
And then I'm going to go to these big brands
and I'm going to tell them, oh, by the way,
this guy is spying, it's deceiving, it's not And everybody
will be telling me, well, what if I tell you
in ten years you're going to be like Facebook? No,
(34:43):
it's principles, why so we build it. We will never
even if we become maybe brainwashed to do the opposite
but we have built it. We put the secret recipe
in our technology. We will never we will never be
able to do that. Technically, we have to destroy everything
(35:04):
and start from stress. And that's why we brought blockshaing, right,
That's why we brought up to you. That's why we
build blockchain and our technology. So how fat we become,
it will never ever change you. You cannot change the
case exactly. So we made it where Okay, you know
(35:26):
Facebook started this, but in twenty years Facebook have become
this crazy evil thing for a lot of people. Sure,
how can we prevent ourselves from doing that? Blockshaing and
build the rules to and with blockchain. You can't change
why because people in control. People have their data and
they control their data. It's called the dicerentualization. We you
(35:51):
think about a platform like blue Sky. I look at
that and it's like amazing, brilliant idea. You know the
outdoors she created that. Why are you laughing? Just funny,
It's just funny when you think about Blue Eye, that
platform was created with brilliant idea, brilliant idea. It's like
(36:13):
decentralization of social media. Great. I like Jake Grabber, I've
been trying to get a hold of her to see
if she can join our movement. And she created this
decentralized platform that allows people to communicate on talk. But
how does she make money? How can she sustain the
(36:36):
vacuum that's gonna pretty much suck everything she's doing without
having to worry about making money if there's no advertisement. Okay,
that's why I introduced blockchain. That's why we introduce the
ability to becoming a bank making people owning their data
and instead of taking all the data, let people monetize
(36:58):
their own data, right and let them choose what do
you want to see, but give them a piece of it. Yeah.
Imagine if someone comes into your platform and make money
every day, was not having to worry about, you know,
being sold.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, And so just to clarify that for the people
listening and it make sure you can correct me if
I'm wrong. But like on Facebook, on Instagram, everywhere else,
every action that you have, there's ad dollars behind that.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
And so like if you share something, you like something,
that's why.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Like when you talk about something and all of a sudden,
the next day on Facebook there's an ad that you
talked about, there's money being made off of all of
each user's actions, right, But the user doesn't see any
of that money.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So they do they see zero, They see battery life.
That's it, right.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
So at the end of the weekend, But what you're saying,
what you're saying is we're going to give the user
an opportunity to get a size to that pipe. Of course,
we're going to say if you're the ones. That's because like,
we don't exist without the user. A social media company
can't exist without the user, right, So we're going to
give the user a slice of that revenue or that
pie if they would like it. Right, And instead of
(38:04):
just completely cutting them out, and what you said earlier, like, yeah,
good news, I get to talk to my brother, but
bad news.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Facebook knows everything about my life and there's no knowing. Yeah,
I like what you said. It's not knowing. I don't
care them to know. But the sneaky part is that
they take this data and they put some analytics on it,
and then they start marketing this data to other platforms
and saying after they spied on us. Yeah, they're saying, oh,
(38:31):
this guy likes Nike and he's talking about Nike shoes.
Let's go to Nike sell it everywhere because well, so
back into that point that everybody, every single company and
social media world, they thought about the creators and they
thought about themselves, but they forgot the users.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Okay users, the creators don't have anything, and the cliesn't
have anything.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
So do you think about the users? Everybody will be like,
what what you mean? Think about the users? Think about
when you have I'll give you some numbers. Five point
five billion people use this internet. Okay, five point one
billion uses social media platform four point five billion users
(39:18):
metal platforms, Facebook kind of stuff. That's almost two thirds
of the world population on Meta. Yeah, so when you
actually think about it is it's a machine for influencers
and creators to make money. Great marketing, amazing marketing. But
(39:39):
what about the people that use it? Can they do anything?
Can they go to Starbucks use points that they accummulated
from Facebook talking to their cousin for freaking five years? No,
no people thought about this Starbucks so to the Storebucks
turned from a coffee machine to a technology company. So
when you go back to Meta and say those five
(40:01):
point five billion people that they made zero, you know,
you had one hundred and twenty five million people made
all this money, that's what five six percent? What about
the ninety five percent? Can you create something that benefits
them directly in their lifestyle and anything without taking the data? Now,
(40:24):
the business model is designed for data. For data, Yeah,
for data money, right, And so I'd say how we
did that in Parliament on PlayTV and Burst and our
technology is when we launched up to our platform is
(40:45):
now we allow that eight hours battery life means something.
Means that you can go take a wallet that we
created with Siskivo. That wallet, you wake up an morning
and you have a number that translates into a value
that can get you something. Maybe in the United States,
(41:06):
one hundred bucks a month means nothing, but in the
world that one hundred dollars be enough to feed the family. Right.
And the more we grow, the one hundred dollars become
a thousand dollars and the two thousand dollars which technology
and which social media ever has been created that you
wake up in the morning and you can go to
(41:27):
Starbucks and get something from Starbucks, from.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Your social media, from Clarify. And that's happening because every
action like comment, share, like you're being rewarded for that
because of the optio blockchain.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And I know Metaverse was amazing idea
to think about it. They did think about it, but
they went to and becoming a real estate world and
the virtual reality of something that doesn't exist. Right, But again,
you have to think about humans. So what we have
(41:59):
become innovative because we thought about humans and users first
and then thought about ourself for a second. We completely
reversed the equation. Sure, so that's why we have a
better way of becoming more successful. What gets you?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
What gets you most excited about the future, as far
as like you have your parlor side, your pull side,
your people.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Look when I met you, Dylan, I was like, if
we have a million like Dylan, I think we're going
to be the greatest platform on Earth. Why it's because
what you saw on us you didn't see anywhere else.
(42:42):
I mean, you're you're a YouTuber, you are you're an entrepreneur, eurostartup,
and what you saw was us is like a new home. Right,
you feel home. You don't feel like you're coming here.
It's like, how much if you do this, We're gonna
give you a formula perform us. So if you do
this and now We didn't look at you as a number.
(43:04):
We looked at you as one of us. Was up
being with us. And when we we met an amfest,
I looked at them fests and I saw hundreds like you.
They have their shows, they have their videos, they have
and I'm like, where do they put their content? YouTube? Wow?
(43:27):
Do they get anything back? No? They don't, but YouTube
Google does. And I was I always like that documentary
movie that was made. It's called the Creepy Line. If
you watch that documentary me, you would know that the
two acts of evil on Facebook and Google, the creepy line.
(43:48):
The Creepy line it's an Amazon Prime and the Creepy
Line teach you one thing is that your information, not data,
your information or the most valuable possession that you ever have.
You will be the richest human being on earth. That
if you value your information, that you're giving away for free.
(44:11):
So that's why what inspires me is about you, is
that I feel like you know you are you believe
in us, and you believed in us because you're smart
and you actually saw they were like, wait a minute,
why not I joined these guys. So we turn from
a technology company, a social media company into a movement
(44:34):
that we want people like you to join us and
come to us and feel home.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, and I think for me, so even with YouTube
and Facebook and TikTok, they set even parameters for creators
before they came and make money. So like with YouTube,
you have to have one thousand subscribers and four thousand
hours of watch time before you even get paid any
ad revenue. And so like you could be, I can
almost guarantee you everyone in that exhibitor hall, maybe ten
(44:59):
percent some of them were even monetized on YouTube, because
like the majority of creators that started a YouTube channel
never monetized. I think actually ten percent of YouTube channels
are actually monetized. And I tell you and of that
of those channels that are monetized, only like one percent
of the ten percent are making any type of money
that they can live off of.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Well, so the percentage is just like that, if you
stop for a week being sick, everyone get sick, Your
content goes to grade it you don't get anything. So
you keep constantly working every day grinding hope. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I remember when I finally got monetized, I had podcasts
for nine months. I was like grinding, grinding, grinding, and
you know, and he stopped one day out a week
or I had a busy month and next thing, you know,
you're building from scratches. So with you guys, and this
is I'm talking more to creators that are going to
be listening to this. The exciting thing is Number one,
anybody gets paid through Optio when they set up their wallet,
(45:51):
regardless of if you're creator or not. But then as
being a creator and posting on PlayTV, it's like you're
you're able to monetize immediately through Optial, which is awesome,
but then having a community that's hungry, like you guys
were You guys believe in this, Like every single person
at Parlor I've met like believe in this. And what
(46:12):
I've learned in selling insurance is that if you don't
believe in what you're selling, and you can't sell it.
And I can tell when people believe in what they're doing,
and you find that people. I told my dad because
he asked me about Amfest And the first thing I said,
is Dad, like, Parlor is going to be huge And
he said why He said, because they believe in what
they're doing. And I'm like, and I told the dad
(46:33):
back in December when after I left him, like, I
don't know how I need to join that those people, man,
like I need to be part of that. Because when
we talked and I met with Amy and I met
with Brian and everybody, you could just feel it. You
could just you could there was this tangible like like
it's coming. Man.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
We build the platform hop on by the people, for
the people. Yeah, that's why we believe in people. Humans
are the best creation on this universe. That's why I'm
an anti AI. I'm an hi human intelligence. I'm an
anti artificial intelligence, the human innovation. If you believe in humans,
(47:14):
if you believe, if you look at someone and you'll
believe in him, and you put yourself on his shoes
and you think about what he thinks, you become honest
and straightforward and believing in what he can do. Anybody
you meet, any human being on earth, anyone, he can
(47:34):
build anything magnificent. The problem that we have right now
in this world is that why the world is super divided,
why people get divided, is because everything that every single
human being on this earth, except a successful one that
they're smart one, they think it's all about themselves. They
(47:59):
are they are the one, Okay, great, they are him
as the case or him they are I. So when
you think of that way and you walk in you
think that everybody think that it's the world evolve around them.
They have a problem, You have a gap because if
you think that way, you become lonely. Yeah. When you
(48:23):
become lonely, now you give yourself away to the devil.
And what you do is that is that he knows
how to hunt you, and he knows how to get
you alone. And this is what become depression starts because yeah,
way the minute to be far away from humans interactions
and society and socialization and all of that, you become
(48:43):
alone and you become depressed. So I say, antidepression is
connecting to other people. Yeah, not to believe the are it.
You believe the are part of the world. You believe
it's just luck. You're everybody else and humble yourself. And
this is what we and it's the belief that you
need each other exactly, always needing each other, Yes, always
(49:05):
waking up in the morning. You will not exist without
your neighbors. Correct, And that's why you know a lot
of people don't understand, is that what made Jesus. Jesus
is he always tell you to go and care about
your neighbors and love other people, and that's what made
him most powerful thing ever exist in this planet. So
(49:31):
that's why I'm always telling people is that always think
about other people, always be cautious about other people. And
that's why we are growing fast. It is because we
thought about humans as the biggest innovation on the world.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
So as we wrap up, because I know, I know,
I think Brian's coming in next and you have a
million things do I could talk, we could first to
another episode soon because this is great. What advice would
you give to the entrepreneurs side of my show? So
I started this show, as you know, interview entrepreneurs. So
this has been like this is back to home for me,
as these types of interviews young entrepreneur even just looking
(50:11):
to get started. What's the like from someone who's built companies,
acquired companies, now have a team, how big the parlor
team right now and fifty employees growing very fast? What's
a couple pieces or one piece of advice that you
wish you would have gotten when you started your company
back in twenty twelve that you can now give to
someone that's starting theirs.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Don't chase money Number one, don't chase money, believing in
what you want, leave money at the end, and always
believe in other people and focus. You do that, you
can buy the game over. You can do anything. Literally,
(50:51):
bring every single person on earth to become successful. You
give them all these four or five pieces, it will
be everything they off. Don't chase money, let money chase
you make it the last resources and believing in something
whatever it is, selling water, selling air, and believe in
(51:17):
other people and focus. That's it. You can do anything
you think about ideas. Okay, technology, Okay, you want to
build a technology company. Great, you've got a great idea
that this little app or this little page and this
little web page and this little technology can build. Sayings
that makes things convenient for people. Can go any technology
(51:39):
others I ever build those. Anything that was ever built
in the world of technology revolves around one thing, human convenience.
So you build a convenience something to convenient people. Great,
that's technology. But if you focus on it whatever it is,
and don't want about money right now, what about money later,
(52:05):
and have a team that believes in that with you,
and then focus, focus, don't be distracted and Minuture focus
Minuture in the building mode twelve months, twelve months. Make mistakes.
We all make mistakes. But if you focus and you
know those mistakes that you make and don't be distracted, brother,
(52:28):
you can build anything you want. You can be the
richest men on earth. So that's the recipe.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
I feel like if I ask another question, we're going
to go for an hour because I want to keep
asking you questions. But I feel like that's the best
way to end this episode. At least we're gonna definitely
have to do more. Thank you so much for coming
on man, and for anyone listening in. If you're not
on Parlor, get on Parlor, find this show on play TV.
Will be everywhere and at You probably listening to this
(52:54):
on Apple or YouTube, but like, come over see what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
It's a really cool thing. You have some cool things
coming on too. The pull side.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Jason was telling us about a little bit as well.
But thank you for the time. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Please, if you haven't yet joined me on Parlor, subscribe
to the show. We'll see you guys in the next episode.
Thank you for listening to this episode of the Dylan
Engan Show,
Dude, how did you get here? What got you into entrepreneurship?
What gout you in a business?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I came to this country because of freedom of speech
and how they're taking away in twenty nineteen twenty twenty
when I saw the President of the United States getting
kicked by a intern in Twitter, so I was like,
no way, I'm just gonna build something that nobody else
can kick you out. When Mark Zuckerberg built Facebook back
in two thousand and four, it was beautiful, idea was amazing,
(00:24):
connecting people together. But now it turns into becoming a
marketing broker platform. We turned from a technology company, social
media company into a movement.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I told my dad, Parlor is going to be huge,
and he said why. He said, because they believe in
what they're doing. How do you find the right people?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
They find you. You don't look for them. They find you.
Just like money, you don't look for money, it looks
for you. If you think about Steve Jobs when he
built Apple, he built Apple not to make money. He
built Apple to solve problems and conveniencely bigger than the money.
Look at up on now right money comes later.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You have single handlely priabe and the most encouraging person
I've met in twenty twenty five and it's been this
like it's been a good journey, but it's taught me
a million lessons. And then talking to other entrepreneurs in
Michigan or on the podcast has been good for me
(01:20):
because like a lot of times, it could be really lonely,
like you've been grinding, grinding, grinding, and then like the
payoff hasn't happened yet, and it's really easy just to
like that's it. I'm getting a nine to five, you know,
or you think you're about already close a big client
and they push off, or something like every.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Day I woke up in the morning. I always think
about it this way, the stress that you go through,
so you're like any entrepreneur starts a business or to
start an idea, it's always grinding and it's always failure
every day. You don't see success at the beginning, you
see it at the end. It's like I told you,
(01:58):
it's like an end of movie. I don't know if
you've seen Bollywood movies, but they always get on the
movie and it's always sadness and it's always depression, and
then in the end is always had that's always the
entrepreneur journey for the starting a business, but it always
asks yourself. It's just like, what are you trying to
(02:19):
do in life? What's your goals in life? Because you
measuring as a failure could be a success for someone else.
And it's always like that goal that you put yourself
into this fancy world that's like, oh, I'm just going
to be a billionaire in six months. Okay, good luck
if you can have the capacity if you have to.
(02:40):
So you always ask yourself. It's like, I want my
goals in life to be sixty and not working for someone.
When I started my company back in twenty twelve, I
always thought about it this way, and I'm like, what
is my goals in life? I want to help other people?
(03:02):
And when you other, when you set that goal for yourself,
you want to help other people all your life. You're
set why because if you have a million dollars and
you give it to ten people, that's one hundred thousand dollars. Okay,
those ten people will become another ten thousand, another one hundred,
ten one hundred people, they go become another million and
another mariion. The network grows. This is how your network grows.
(03:24):
But if you take that million dollars for yourself, it's
going to always stay a million dollars. To grow it,
you have to grow it through people. That's connection, that's network.
So being being an entrepreneur is a curse, and mostly
it's because you are in a building mode for a
(03:45):
long time. But the best part about it is that
you you always look at yourself and if your solo
and if it's all about yourself, you will be successful
at some point, but it's not going to be a
long term success. So team is the most important elements
(04:06):
for success in any entrepreneur's business life ever. The team.
So when you wake up in the morning and you
know that you have someone that got you back, partners
and anything, and you always fair to them, that's the
pillar of success. Any idea in this world will work.
Anything you want to sell napkins, it makes money. You
(04:30):
want to sell elastics, PANDID that comes from China, you'll
make money. It's all about how you do your distribution
and how you get your network and growing your network
and all of that. So in any business, you define
your goals in your life and if you know that,
(04:55):
you achieve them and be grateful. Oh I've accomplished that,
and you always look back and it's like, oh my god,
ten years ago, I was nobody look at me now,
you know, so it's for me. It's just like what
are your goals in life and what you're trying to accomplish.
(05:16):
And the secret sauce for any entrepreneur is that you
get into the business, just jump in, take a risk,
have a good team, have an idea, and don't worry
about it. It will work. It will always work. How
do you find the right people? They find you. You
(05:38):
don't look for them. They find you. Just like money,
you don't look for money. It looks for you. The
chase people, you'll never find them. They always find you.
And if you keep hunting for people, it's just like
keep hunting and searching for money, you will never find them.
So when I started my company, people come to me.
(06:01):
He just sit there and tell them your idea and
they just join you. And the best investment you make
is that you make an investment in people. It's like, hey,
I can't pay you now, but if you stick with
me for a year or two, you grow it. And
the best advice is to be honest with anybody. Honesty
(06:23):
and integrity, your reputation is the most important thing ever
that will keep you forever happy. So it's funny you
say that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So for those that are listening, we have producer Isaiah
sitting back over there, and he told me that, what
about a year ago, Isaiah, About a year ago, Isaiah
was a server at a restaurant and he met ya
Ya was the first table U served something like that.
And I listen and Isaiah told me that he said
(06:56):
he served your table and apparently you said something about
the company or something. Isaiah said, I want to work
with that guy one day. And you have this ability
to attract people, and it's the same with me, Like
I met you at Amfest. You painted the vision of
what you guys were doing, and I'm like, I don't
know how, but I want to be involved. How is
(07:18):
this something that you've learned over time? Was there a mentors?
Has this just been how you've been just the ability
to attract good people to your organization.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And I'm going to say it again, honesty and integrity.
If humans are smart, if they sense honesty in you
and integrity, no matter what you tell them you were selling,
they would come join you. You can think of a
crazy idea and you walk into a bunch of people
and Starbucks and you tell them about it. They would
(07:47):
believe on you. How you say it is it comes
from the heart. People connect to the heart, and people
can smell bullshit from a mile away. So funny you
brought I see and you brought yourself. You know John?
John is my neighbor. Really yeah? Willis this guy? John? Yeah? Hey? John? So?
(08:13):
And John is a very quiet neighbor that doesn't talk.
And I always like and we know each other for
two years living together. And then I'm like, I brought John.
I'm like, John, come on, man, what are you doing?
And I'm like what are you doing? And I'm like
and then I was like, hey man, you can help
Come and help me. And John is busy, he has
a lot of clients. He's like, come on, help you
(08:36):
because he felt that I'm a genuine of what we're
trying to do. So it's about honesty and about believing
in people. Because here's here's the thing is that I'll
tell you a story. Is there is so much distraction
in this world beyond anything you've ever seen, and to
(08:58):
have focus on what you want in life is a
pillar of success. So back in the days and the
Romans when they when they were conquering the world, they
come back and with all these golds and all these
jewelries and all these ritual that they brought from all
these countries that they conquer, they walk in and the
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people are so poor and they see this and they
get so excited, but Caesar don't give anything. So they
get so mad and so angry, and they revolt and
they they want to break up, and they want to
do a lot of crazy stuff. And then you know,
they go to the Caesar and says, Caesar, people are mad,
(09:41):
they're poor, they can't find food, and we walk with
all these stuff to them and they don't get anything.
He goes, you know what, he says, Let's bring the circus.
So they go to the Colosseum and people just go
there and forget everything. Why because he makes distract them.
(10:01):
So what you see right now in the world is
a big distraction for everything is to go look at TV,
you look at movies, you look at sports entertainment. I'm
not saying that we don't need to be in all
of that, but this is all distraction. And what you
learn from it. It distracts you from your daily life.
So if you have twenty four hours, you sleep eight hours,
(10:21):
you have sixteen hours left, and you sit there and
you start looking at what I need to do in
life and you focus. You need four hours a day
to focus. You become very successful. Now if you go
nights clubbing, restaurants, watching sports, watching all of that. I'm
(10:42):
not still saying don't watch sports, but I believe in
recreational sports, per sports for yourself, you will focus on yours.
And I'm talking about entrepreneurs. I'm not talking about public talk.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not talking about everybody like sports,
the Cowboys and a big cowboy fan. And it's just
(11:05):
when you start building your career, you have to focus. Now,
if you wake up in the morning and you have
nothing else to think about but yourself and your goals
and your success and your loved one and your family,
and you focus on that and you understand that you're
(11:25):
in a building mode, in a construction mode. For four hours,
any idea that you have and you believe in it
and you find the team, trust me, it becomes a
big success.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It's like you know what Kobe Bryant said, it is
like it's impossible to find someone that works harder than me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know, actually that is not true because I would
say I have found people working harder than me, and
what I do is delegate and basically work smarter or
not harder. No, it's not that. It's it's never been.
Everybody is smart in the world. I respect everybody smart
in this world. It's how you delegate and prioritize. Because
(12:10):
people don't know how to delegate and prioritize. An entrepreneur
and a CEO of a company best job for them
is to delegate and prioritize. This is important, but this
is more important. This is important, but this is more important.
Delegate that to this, delegate that to this. So you're
like playing a symphony.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Do you think that's what keeps entrepreneurs from growing is
the lack of maybe because they feel like their ideas
their baby and their company and they want the control
and so they don't delegate what they need to to scale.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Biggest example I'll give you is Apple. Steve Jobs. Apple
is the biggest startup company ever. They don't have VP
reports to a cp A report to CEO, report to
BO report, to a CFO. They have a flat structure
that all reports to Tim Cook or Steve Jobs. So
(13:03):
if you look at Apple, for example, same thing with
a WS there is no this is the boss and
I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna make sure that everybody
follows this. No, it's human innovation comes from trusting them,
believing in them, let them innovate. That doesn't mean the
crazy guy and telling hey, let's go to the moon.
We're gonna take a you know, a bus go to
(13:25):
the moon. Now, I'm talking about reality when you have
smart people. And again, everybody in this world is smart.
Don't think about IQ. Everybody is smart. We are God's creation.
He made us way smarter than the rest of the humanities.
And what was of creations were smarter than any other
creations that's being ever built in this world. I mean,
(13:48):
look at the Egyptian build the Pyramids till this minute,
the thing the Aliens built it. No, it's not I'm
a Egyptian and I know that was built by humans.
But when you look at the the entrepreneurs and the
business world, you look at success, and it's always the
CEO that delegate and prioritize and if you don't know
(14:12):
how to delegate. Then you grow amazingly, but you come
to the point that you can't scale. And when you
stop scaling, your business become a year or two and
it's gone. And again, everybody builds a business or a company,
they always build it for a small reason, which is
(14:35):
to make money. If you think about Steve Jobs when
he built Apple, he built Apple not to make money.
He built Apple to solve problems and convenience bigger than
the money. Look at Apple now. Money comes later. And
if you build then something. If you build something, you
always build something that you believe in is going to
make lives for other people way, way much better.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Are you familiar with Simon cynic So? Simon Sinek is
a is a I don't know what use, like a philosopher,
business whatever. And he says, find your why. That's what
he coaches is like why do you do what you do?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
It's not the what? Find your why? What gets you
up in the morning? What? What? Like?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Why are you do you want to make money? Like
what's the why behind everything? And that's kind of his
coaching is being like finding your why. I think he
has a book called literally Find Your Why. It's exactly
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Why is a question you ask yourself, But there is
one thing that you have to think about that. Do
not question the universe. The minutes you start questioning the universe,
the minutes you start questioning why you're here and not
knowing why you're here, that means you haven't found a
(15:47):
new purpose yet. The minutes you find new purpose, don't
question know your goals, know your purpose, have very clear
paths to the future. People they question why. I like that.
I always question why. But at the same time I
came into the realization that I'm done with questioning why.
(16:09):
I know why I'm here. I know what I'm doing,
I know what's next ten years, and it's time and
it's go time. It's building time, it's energy. So when
you can't find purpose in life, yes, you ask the
question why, But the minute you find it, it's go time. Go.
(16:30):
Now you sit here and you know your goal and
you believe in it. Waking up every day knowing your goal,
you ask yourself, is this truly what you want to do? Now?
If you have people around you that's questioning that, and
you worry about other people questioning it, there is nobody
(16:51):
in this world. Nobody will ever come to you and
say is this is the right goal? This is yes,
you got your answer. That's not anybody will come to
that level because that's God. Now you look at yourself
and you ask yourself, it's like, you know what, I
know my goal. My goal is to make a billion
(17:13):
dollars in ten years. You got to make ten billion
dollars in ten years, and you reach that goal, but
you find yourself not happy. So I'll go back and
zach why I found it. And my goal is to
be happy. Money doesn't make happy, it make you happy.
(17:34):
That money does not buy happiness. What buy happen is
is take that money and spend it on other people
and make them happy, because that would bring my exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So I'd love to if you wouldn't mind. I don't
know anything about your story, man, I don't know. I
know you've been I think the audience knows. I mentioned
your name before and another one of my shows. You
have single handling pride in the most encouraging person I
met in.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Twenty twenty five. Thank you and uh you.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Know doing insurance sales since twenty eighteen. Wanting to get
this podcast off the ground. kJ reaching out to me
via email and before I amfest and then meeting you
guys has breathed life into the possibility of a dream happening. Yes,
and so I want to thank you. I wanted to
thank you on the show because you, like my wife
will get tiary I talking about everything you guys have
(18:25):
done for us, and so I appreciate that a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Absolutely, But dude, how did you get here? Like what's
your story?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
If you wouldn't mind being like, what got you into entrepreneurship?
What got you into business? Did you you said you're
from Egypt? What brought you to the States?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
How did that all? Like? Like, where do you want
to start in your story? I'll leave that up to you.
So as told my story that I grew up in
Egypt and in Middle East. Will always uh, We'll always
have that fascination about Americans, and we always look at
the Americans as something that so fascinating for one reason,
(19:04):
freedom And every single country in the world they see
freedom in a different way, except Americans. They see it
in a completely different way. Like the world is this side,
the Americans on this side. It's just fascinating. So when
I was a kid, my grandma and grandpa, they're they're
(19:27):
they're all in politics, and we always look at George
Bush and they and the Russian American Cold War, and
we were grow we grow up that you know, Americans,
they have this integrity. And I was always fascinated by
how you know, you wake up and you look at
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a country that is leading the world by example. And
so I just decided in the nineties, uh, to leave Egypt,
don't come to America to pursue my career. I had
a master degree in computer science and I said I
(20:10):
want to come to United States to finish my studies.
I came here and I was like, okay, you know what,
I think I'm going to work. I would try schools
that didn't like it, didn't like it, and I said,
I'm just going to go to the enterprise. So I
started my job in Microsoft back in the nineties, and
(20:30):
I started growing my career, you know, and I started
going into companies at and T, Cisco, all of these
big enterprise and then I just said it's not working.
I want to build something different. And in twenty twelve,
I start realizing that building your own company, building your
(20:53):
own career, fulfilling your dreams is where I think I
was meant to be. And I started in the cloud.
I'm a technologist in the cloud, and start building that company.
And then in twenty twelve twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, we
saw what happened with social media, and we saw what
(21:14):
happened with President Trump, and and we worked to his
team to build his own social media And at that
time I got fascinated by technology and social media. Why
because I was like, wait a minute, I came to
this world, to this country because of freedom of speech,
(21:36):
and now they're taken away. And I was like, there's
no way you tell me that this country is going
to fail. It's too big to fail. But I saw
that in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty when I saw that
man president, the President of the United States, getting kicked
by a I would say, a intern in Twitter. Yah,
(22:04):
they came emigrated to this country just like me because
I hate speech or whatever. They're misinformation exactly, a bunch
of bs. And I think, look at the world right now.
So I was like, no way, I'm just gonna I'm
just gonna build something that honestly, we who looked at
(22:28):
the President as an example. So It's like, how can
we make sure we build something that nobody else can
kick you out? So where do we start? Well, I
had the cloud. Well at the time Parlor was getting
out of getting kicked out from AWS. It was like, oh,
if we had Parlor, they would have never been kicked out,
(22:48):
So like oh wow. And then it was started building
the cloud and we mastered that, and we acquired companies
and we acquired softwares and we built that cloud. We
made sure that any cloud, any social media company that
would come to us and nobody will remove him. But
we didn't have the name brand. And then we started
(23:09):
hearing that Countye West buying Parlor. It's like, oh, it's
available for sale, let's jump on that. And then we
acquired Parlor in twenty three and the people that we
bought it from starboard Ryan Coins amazing guy. Love Ryan.
He's like, what are you going to do with that?
I'm like, well, we're just gonna see if we can
(23:30):
launch it. This is crazy. Do be careful. The FBI
and the DOJ is going to come after you. I'm like, man,
this is free country. Yeah, And I still believed in that.
And we launched it in forty five days and people
thought were crazy. Had half of my team quit. I
was like, oh my god, in twenty three, yeah, twenty four.
(23:51):
We launched it in twenty four February twenty four and
my team was like, you crazy, We're not gonna I
was like, okay, yeah, team from the Cloud and like
your other yeah, we had a because they don't understand
it's just like they have seventeen million people that change
(24:12):
the history of free speech, because you have January sixth,
you have people that literally twenty percent of Trump supporters
or part of users. So everybody thought that we're going
to just be a right wing platform, but they didn't
know that we still have the rif lift wing and
(24:32):
the right wing. But they don't understand this is no
such thing called light right wing. As American people American dreass.
I came here in the nineties when you know, Bill
Clinton was accused of all this bullshit, but he's still
the president and they still preserved his status. So the
mentality was different in the nineties, and then September eleven
(24:54):
happened and everything changed. So anyway, so I was like,
I was like, wait a minute, guys, wait, we have
things to come There's things. So we start building the
team not thinking about right wing, left wing, liberals, conservative.
It all made no sense at the beginning for a
(25:15):
lot of people. But when we start building the team
and people come to us, and we made the platform
way way much better, and we start attracting people that
is not about politics. Why because you have for an example,
I'll give you an example. Seventy five million people voted
for President Trump last week last year. Sure, right, but
(25:39):
there's three hundred and thirty million Americans. Well, there is
sixty five million voted for Camela. What happened. That's not
even fifty five percent. What happened to the fifty five
percent of Americans? They don't care, they didn't vote, They
don't believe in politics. They just want their normal life.
And what you see right now now is a country
(26:01):
is super divided and politics plays a big role in
vision in that vision, which is not fair. Why because
people care about sports, entertainment, media, you know, music, all
of the other stuff. Why don't Why the media is
focused only in politics. So we said, no, we're going
(26:23):
to build something that has nothing to do with politics.
But we still have the politics. And that's what we built.
PAULS and now paulse is something that allows people to
come that really don't care about politics. And we start
building other platforms and we build PlayTV and there you go,
(26:44):
come in and we start having pop cultures, stars, talkers
to come to our platforms. And what we're doing is
very simple, Dylan. What we're doing is building, focusing and
building things for the creators like you. Why because you
go to where YouTube and TikTok and Instagram. Okay, great,
(27:08):
but what is YouTube and TikTok and Instagram are doing
for the creators and the influencers Nothing but sending you
a paycheck at the end of the months. But are
they helping you grow in your business? Absolutely not? Right.
Are they helping you monetize from your content? Absolutely not
because all the contents goes to them. So we said,
we have one hundred and twenty six million entrepreneurs, influencers
(27:32):
and world right now, one hundred twenty six million. They
control sixty percent of the content that goes into all
these platforms. How can we get ten percent of these
and get them? The idea is that how you become
an entrepreneur for everything you do and empower you to
own your content, own your data on a platform is
(27:55):
built from ground up on freedom of speech. You want
a proof of concept, we'll give you parlor for example,
So on our platform, but it's being built by entrepreneurs
that cares so much about freedom of speech and freedom
of expressions because that terminology has been used by a
(28:16):
lot of people in the wrong way. There is freedom
of speech in Russia, yes, there is the freedom of
speech in China, yes there is. But the United States
is the beacon, and you turn off that beacon, the
world will go into darkness. So that's why we believe
that we have created the recipe, the perfect recipe for
(28:37):
creators and influencers to come use our technologies, our gadgets,
our big tech replacement to make sure that they will
never be canceled and they own their content and they
own their data, and their users they bring feels safe
because they're part of a VIP club that don't get
advertisement an annoying text saying come on buy this laptop
(29:02):
and buy this by buy this that, because we don't
use that against them. So how are you? How are you?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
There's going to be a lot of pushback to people
that aren't conservative that still say no, no, no, Parlor
is just a conservative app and it sounds like and
it's funny. I put a post out on Parlor last
week and I basically said, Hey, Parlor community, I know
it's mainly conservative. Would you be open on having people
with other ideologies on this platform? And every single user
(29:31):
said yes, we would love people not conservative on Parlor.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Good question. So, like, how do we re how do
you work? PLATV so same thing so PLATV video short
form first long form videos, and but I'm going to
give you some numbers. Here's going to change your perspective
about what we did. Was Parlor. Parlor when we came
in was ninety five ninety eight percent politics, was sixty
(29:58):
percent politics, forty percent non politics content right now, Wow,
And this was in one year. So yeah, when you
used to look at Parlor before, it was all annoying, boring,
same thing, same thing, friends, repeat it is about you know, president,
(30:19):
and about this against that. I don't like that, but
it's all one way. So the content is growing for
non politics we brought. I'll tell you how powerful part
it is. We're one hundred and sixty one hundred and
sixty seven countries in the world. We have really yeah,
(30:39):
we have people in Saudi Arabia, we have people in
South Africa, we have people in Brazil. We have we
have ten percent of the Saudi population and our platform
three hundred thousand. We have two hundred and fifty thousand Brazilians.
So it is a globe platform that is designed to
(31:02):
let people innovate and talk and don't influence them as
long as they're peaceful, and give them the tools that
everything they need. But take out one thing. The most
evil things are ever being created on first of ours,
that made social media the worst weapon ever, a's algorithm.
(31:24):
Take the algorithm away, don't do ranking, and don't do
for favoritism, and let the ranking based on the content.
Then people will be like, this is genuine. So I'm
not going to force you to recommend things to you.
But you recommend to me isn't irrelevant to me? And
(31:47):
you put me in a mood that I see all
what you give me is what you think this is it,
But that's not it for me. I want to see
other things. So we or doing with PlayTV and burst
is thinking about TikTok was a new algorithm. Think about that.
(32:10):
When Mark Zuckerberg build Facebook back in two thousand and four.
It was beautiful, It's brilliant. Idea, was amazing connecting people together.
What's better than that. I love to get on Facebook
to connect to my dad and my brother. But now
it turns into becoming a marketing broker platform. I want
(32:33):
to make a percentage out of that relationship. So how
bad that is? Like you connect me with my cousin,
but you make a percentage because you're going to sell
me something. So it turns out to be a beautiful
idea and it grows into that evil idea, which becoming
(32:53):
a marketing broker platform, and then it started putting that algorithm,
how much I make out of you is how become
become successful. That's why it's a two trillion dollar company, right,
That's why they have twenty five thousand data points on
every single use of that goes and was AI analytics,
(33:15):
and that's why Facebook turns from a social connection company
company into a marketing data mining company. So we did it.
We didn't do that. And every time you go to
any of these platforms, if you're not paying for anything,
if you're not paying for a product, you are the product.
(33:35):
And with that, they're making money off of you and
what that means a lot of people don't understand that. Okay,
I don't care. Let's make people, but how how unhumane
it is to take somebody's data and information about yourself,
about your digital identity and sell it to other companies.
Like does these people make money from that? Absolutely not.
(33:59):
But I'm going to give you a free email and
a free page to connect you with them with your dad.
And in turn of giving me your name number, phone number, email,
like your dislikes your no, you like your food? Where
do you eat? Where do you stay? But I'm going
to give you just this little thing here to connect
you with your dad and give me all the conversations.
(34:20):
And then I'm going to take all of that and
I'm going to sell it fifty times, one hundred times.
And then I'm going to go to these big brands
and I'm going to tell them, oh, by the way,
this guy is spying, it's deceiving, it's not And everybody
will be telling me, well, what if I tell you
in ten years you're going to be like Facebook? No,
(34:43):
it's principles, why so we build it. We will never
even if we become maybe brainwashed to do the opposite
but we have built it. We put the secret recipe
in our technology. We will never we will never be
able to do that. Technically, we have to destroy everything
(35:04):
and start from stress. And that's why we brought blockshaing, right,
That's why we brought up to you. That's why we
build blockchain and our technology. So how fat we become,
it will never ever change you. You cannot change the
case exactly. So we made it where Okay, you know
(35:26):
Facebook started this, but in twenty years Facebook have become
this crazy evil thing for a lot of people. Sure,
how can we prevent ourselves from doing that? Blockshaing and
build the rules to and with blockchain. You can't change
why because people in control. People have their data and
they control their data. It's called the dicerentualization. We you
(35:51):
think about a platform like blue Sky. I look at
that and it's like amazing, brilliant idea. You know the
outdoors she created that. Why are you laughing? Just funny,
It's just funny when you think about Blue Eye, that
platform was created with brilliant idea, brilliant idea. It's like
(36:13):
decentralization of social media. Great. I like Jake Grabber, I've
been trying to get a hold of her to see
if she can join our movement. And she created this
decentralized platform that allows people to communicate on talk. But
how does she make money? How can she sustain the
(36:36):
vacuum that's gonna pretty much suck everything she's doing without
having to worry about making money if there's no advertisement. Okay,
that's why I introduced blockchain. That's why we introduce the
ability to becoming a bank making people owning their data
and instead of taking all the data, let people monetize
(36:58):
their own data, right and let them choose what do
you want to see, but give them a piece of it. Yeah.
Imagine if someone comes into your platform and make money
every day, was not having to worry about, you know,
being sold.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, And so just to clarify that for the people
listening and it make sure you can correct me if
I'm wrong. But like on Facebook, on Instagram, everywhere else,
every action that you have, there's ad dollars behind that.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
And so like if you share something, you like something,
that's why.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Like when you talk about something and all of a sudden,
the next day on Facebook there's an ad that you
talked about, there's money being made off of all of
each user's actions, right, But the user doesn't see any
of that money.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So they do they see zero, They see battery life.
That's it, right.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
So at the end of the weekend, But what you're saying,
what you're saying is we're going to give the user
an opportunity to get a size to that pipe. Of course,
we're going to say if you're the ones. That's because like,
we don't exist without the user. A social media company
can't exist without the user, right, So we're going to
give the user a slice of that revenue or that
pie if they would like it. Right, And instead of
(38:04):
just completely cutting them out, and what you said earlier, like, yeah,
good news, I get to talk to my brother, but
bad news.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Facebook knows everything about my life and there's no knowing. Yeah,
I like what you said. It's not knowing. I don't
care them to know. But the sneaky part is that
they take this data and they put some analytics on it,
and then they start marketing this data to other platforms
and saying after they spied on us. Yeah, they're saying, oh,
(38:31):
this guy likes Nike and he's talking about Nike shoes.
Let's go to Nike sell it everywhere because well, so
back into that point that everybody, every single company and
social media world, they thought about the creators and they
thought about themselves, but they forgot the users.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Okay users, the creators don't have anything, and the cliesn't
have anything.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
So do you think about the users? Everybody will be like,
what what you mean? Think about the users? Think about
when you have I'll give you some numbers. Five point
five billion people use this internet. Okay, five point one
billion uses social media platform four point five billion users
(39:18):
metal platforms, Facebook kind of stuff. That's almost two thirds
of the world population on Meta. Yeah, so when you
actually think about it is it's a machine for influencers
and creators to make money. Great marketing, amazing marketing. But
(39:39):
what about the people that use it? Can they do anything?
Can they go to Starbucks use points that they accummulated
from Facebook talking to their cousin for freaking five years? No,
no people thought about this Starbucks so to the Storebucks
turned from a coffee machine to a technology company. So
when you go back to Meta and say those five
(40:01):
point five billion people that they made zero, you know,
you had one hundred and twenty five million people made
all this money, that's what five six percent? What about
the ninety five percent? Can you create something that benefits
them directly in their lifestyle and anything without taking the data? Now,
(40:24):
the business model is designed for data. For data, Yeah,
for data money, right, And so I'd say how we
did that in Parliament on PlayTV and Burst and our
technology is when we launched up to our platform is
(40:45):
now we allow that eight hours battery life means something.
Means that you can go take a wallet that we
created with Siskivo. That wallet, you wake up an morning
and you have a number that translates into a value
that can get you something. Maybe in the United States,
(41:06):
one hundred bucks a month means nothing, but in the
world that one hundred dollars be enough to feed the family. Right.
And the more we grow, the one hundred dollars become
a thousand dollars and the two thousand dollars which technology
and which social media ever has been created that you
wake up in the morning and you can go to
(41:27):
Starbucks and get something from Starbucks, from.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Your social media, from Clarify. And that's happening because every
action like comment, share, like you're being rewarded for that
because of the optio blockchain.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And I know Metaverse was amazing idea
to think about it. They did think about it, but
they went to and becoming a real estate world and
the virtual reality of something that doesn't exist. Right, But again,
you have to think about humans. So what we have
(41:59):
become innovative because we thought about humans and users first
and then thought about ourself for a second. We completely
reversed the equation. Sure, so that's why we have a
better way of becoming more successful. What gets you?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
What gets you most excited about the future, as far
as like you have your parlor side, your pull side,
your people.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Look when I met you, Dylan, I was like, if
we have a million like Dylan, I think we're going
to be the greatest platform on Earth. Why it's because
what you saw on us you didn't see anywhere else.
(42:42):
I mean, you're you're a YouTuber, you are you're an entrepreneur, eurostartup,
and what you saw was us is like a new home. Right,
you feel home. You don't feel like you're coming here.
It's like, how much if you do this, We're gonna
give you a formula perform us. So if you do
this and now We didn't look at you as a number.
(43:04):
We looked at you as one of us. Was up
being with us. And when we we met an amfest,
I looked at them fests and I saw hundreds like you.
They have their shows, they have their videos, they have
and I'm like, where do they put their content? YouTube? Wow?
(43:27):
Do they get anything back? No? They don't, but YouTube
Google does. And I was I always like that documentary
movie that was made. It's called the Creepy Line. If
you watch that documentary me, you would know that the
two acts of evil on Facebook and Google, the creepy line.
(43:48):
The Creepy line it's an Amazon Prime and the Creepy
Line teach you one thing is that your information, not data,
your information or the most valuable possession that you ever have.
You will be the richest human being on earth. That
if you value your information, that you're giving away for free.
(44:11):
So that's why what inspires me is about you, is
that I feel like you know you are you believe
in us, and you believed in us because you're smart
and you actually saw they were like, wait a minute,
why not I joined these guys. So we turn from
a technology company, a social media company into a movement
(44:34):
that we want people like you to join us and
come to us and feel home.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, and I think for me, so even with YouTube
and Facebook and TikTok, they set even parameters for creators
before they came and make money. So like with YouTube,
you have to have one thousand subscribers and four thousand
hours of watch time before you even get paid any
ad revenue. And so like you could be, I can
almost guarantee you everyone in that exhibitor hall, maybe ten
(44:59):
percent some of them were even monetized on YouTube, because
like the majority of creators that started a YouTube channel
never monetized. I think actually ten percent of YouTube channels
are actually monetized. And I tell you and of that
of those channels that are monetized, only like one percent
of the ten percent are making any type of money
that they can live off of.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Well, so the percentage is just like that, if you
stop for a week being sick, everyone get sick, Your
content goes to grade it you don't get anything. So
you keep constantly working every day grinding hope. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I remember when I finally got monetized, I had podcasts
for nine months. I was like grinding, grinding, grinding, and
you know, and he stopped one day out a week
or I had a busy month and next thing, you know,
you're building from scratches. So with you guys, and this
is I'm talking more to creators that are going to
be listening to this. The exciting thing is Number one,
anybody gets paid through Optio when they set up their wallet,
(45:51):
regardless of if you're creator or not. But then as
being a creator and posting on PlayTV, it's like you're
you're able to monetize immediately through Optial, which is awesome,
but then having a community that's hungry, like you guys
were You guys believe in this, Like every single person
at Parlor I've met like believe in this. And what
(46:12):
I've learned in selling insurance is that if you don't
believe in what you're selling, and you can't sell it.
And I can tell when people believe in what they're doing,
and you find that people. I told my dad because
he asked me about Amfest And the first thing I said,
is Dad, like, Parlor is going to be huge And
he said why He said, because they believe in what
they're doing. And I'm like, and I told the dad
(46:33):
back in December when after I left him, like, I
don't know how I need to join that those people, man,
like I need to be part of that. Because when
we talked and I met with Amy and I met
with Brian and everybody, you could just feel it. You
could just you could there was this tangible like like
it's coming. Man.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
We build the platform hop on by the people, for
the people. Yeah, that's why we believe in people. Humans
are the best creation on this universe. That's why I'm
an anti AI. I'm an hi human intelligence. I'm an
anti artificial intelligence, the human innovation. If you believe in humans,
(47:14):
if you believe, if you look at someone and you'll
believe in him, and you put yourself on his shoes
and you think about what he thinks, you become honest
and straightforward and believing in what he can do. Anybody
you meet, any human being on earth, anyone, he can
(47:34):
build anything magnificent. The problem that we have right now
in this world is that why the world is super divided,
why people get divided, is because everything that every single
human being on this earth, except a successful one that
they're smart one, they think it's all about themselves. They
(47:59):
are they are the one, Okay, great, they are him
as the case or him they are I. So when
you think of that way and you walk in you
think that everybody think that it's the world evolve around them.
They have a problem, You have a gap because if
you think that way, you become lonely. Yeah. When you
(48:23):
become lonely, now you give yourself away to the devil.
And what you do is that is that he knows
how to hunt you, and he knows how to get
you alone. And this is what become depression starts because yeah,
way the minute to be far away from humans interactions
and society and socialization and all of that, you become
(48:43):
alone and you become depressed. So I say, antidepression is
connecting to other people. Yeah, not to believe the are it.
You believe the are part of the world. You believe
it's just luck. You're everybody else and humble yourself. And
this is what we and it's the belief that you
need each other exactly, always needing each other, Yes, always
(49:05):
waking up in the morning. You will not exist without
your neighbors. Correct, And that's why you know a lot
of people don't understand, is that what made Jesus. Jesus
is he always tell you to go and care about
your neighbors and love other people, and that's what made
him most powerful thing ever exist in this planet. So
(49:31):
that's why I'm always telling people is that always think
about other people, always be cautious about other people. And
that's why we are growing fast. It is because we
thought about humans as the biggest innovation on the world.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
So as we wrap up, because I know, I know,
I think Brian's coming in next and you have a
million things do I could talk, we could first to
another episode soon because this is great. What advice would
you give to the entrepreneurs side of my show? So
I started this show, as you know, interview entrepreneurs. So
this has been like this is back to home for me,
as these types of interviews young entrepreneur even just looking
(50:11):
to get started. What's the like from someone who's built companies,
acquired companies, now have a team, how big the parlor
team right now and fifty employees growing very fast? What's
a couple pieces or one piece of advice that you
wish you would have gotten when you started your company
back in twenty twelve that you can now give to
someone that's starting theirs.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Don't chase money Number one, don't chase money, believing in
what you want, leave money at the end, and always
believe in other people and focus. You do that, you
can buy the game over. You can do anything. Literally,
(50:51):
bring every single person on earth to become successful. You
give them all these four or five pieces, it will
be everything they off. Don't chase money, let money chase
you make it the last resources and believing in something
whatever it is, selling water, selling air, and believe in
(51:17):
other people and focus. That's it. You can do anything
you think about ideas. Okay, technology, Okay, you want to
build a technology company. Great, you've got a great idea
that this little app or this little page and this
little web page and this little technology can build. Sayings
that makes things convenient for people. Can go any technology
(51:39):
others I ever build those. Anything that was ever built
in the world of technology revolves around one thing, human convenience.
So you build a convenience something to convenient people. Great,
that's technology. But if you focus on it whatever it is,
and don't want about money right now, what about money later,
(52:05):
and have a team that believes in that with you,
and then focus, focus, don't be distracted and Minuture focus
Minuture in the building mode twelve months, twelve months. Make mistakes.
We all make mistakes. But if you focus and you
know those mistakes that you make and don't be distracted, brother,
(52:28):
you can build anything you want. You can be the
richest men on earth. So that's the recipe.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
I feel like if I ask another question, we're going
to go for an hour because I want to keep
asking you questions. But I feel like that's the best
way to end this episode. At least we're gonna definitely
have to do more. Thank you so much for coming
on man, and for anyone listening in. If you're not
on Parlor, get on Parlor, find this show on play TV.
Will be everywhere and at You probably listening to this
(52:54):
on Apple or YouTube, but like, come over see what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
It's a really cool thing. You have some cool things
coming on too. The pull side.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Jason was telling us about a little bit as well.
But thank you for the time. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Please, if you haven't yet joined me on Parlor, subscribe
to the show. We'll see you guys in the next episode.
Thank you for listening to this episode of the Dylan
Engan Show,
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