Kangmin Lee joins Dillon England for a powerful conversation on cancel culture, identity politics, and the spiritual decay of the West. From being labeled a "race traitor" to losing close friends over his convictions, Kangmin shares how he went from quiet dissenter to bold truth-teller on X.
We discuss the real root of anti-Asian hate, media double standards, cultural appropriation hypocrisy, and how the rage-bait economy nearly destroyed his soul. This is a raw, unfiltered talk about faith, culture, and fighting for truth, no matter the cost.
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We discuss the real root of anti-Asian hate, media double standards, cultural appropriation hypocrisy, and how the rage-bait economy nearly destroyed his soul. This is a raw, unfiltered talk about faith, culture, and fighting for truth, no matter the cost.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A lot of these people on the internet who throw tantrums,
they're literally a baby's and adult bodies. They've never grown up.
They never had good parents unfortunately, right, you know the
new spot Assassin's Creed Shadows, and they're like, oh, like
Yoske was a real black samurai and it's not true.
Stop wearing Asian clothing, stop eating Asian food.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I mean, we can do this.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
And then if we're like, okay, then maybe you shouldn't
wear you know, Japanese clothes. You're like, no, we get
to do we get to do it, but you're not
allowed to do it. That shooting was bad and we
need to agree for the victims. We need to do
something to help the victims.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Right, But you've ignored.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Everything in the past, and even till this day, the
three years after that event, right, ignored every single instance
of a non white, mostly black, you know, perpetrator of
an anti Asian violent crime. This is so bs because
you only care when the perpetrator is white. I don't
care if the perpetrator's white or black. Whoever's hurting Asians,
I care about that and it needs to stop. But
(00:52):
the only time people ever care all these Asian celebrities, actors,
the representation.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The only time they ever care is if a white
person does it. Who is Congya? Like I pronounced it
right there? Yeah, you're dead. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You're stopping at this moment. Well, that's not my goal. Joking, joking,
I'm joking. I'm kidding. Yeah, So like, who are you where?
You have a big platform on X I do you know?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm small? Where did you? Where did this come up? Start? Man?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Like, like, we're start us in the story. Wherever you
want to plug us in on your story, We'll start there.
Let's I mean just short and simple. I'm just a
normal Korean guy, Korean American living his life. I love
the Lord, I'm seeking the Lord and trying to live
my life. And then shiz hits the fan. Let's you know,
I don't I don't know. I curse here, but uh,
you know, it's just it just went crazy. People lost
(01:44):
their minds in twenty twenty and that's where it all started.
So I had like my political awakening and like October
November of twenty nineteen, I used to hate Trump and
I realized they were lying about him. Yeah, and then
from there I was just kind of quiet about it
because I was in LA at the time, and you know,
everyone around me is liberal. They hate Trump. They think
he's like the next Hitler. Yeah, and so I just
(02:05):
you know, came my head down whatever. And then COVID
hits we alcoholme and then George Floyd dies, and then
from then people lost their ever minds. I mean just people.
I you know, I served a lot in church, I
did a lot of ministry on campus and all that stuff.
But then like these people were saying all like their lies.
They're saying all these lies, and I was like, hey,
(02:27):
maybe we should take a step back before we just
go all in and let our emotions take over and
just go into mass hysteria about this event. All the
information is down out there, and then I was smeared
into endless like oblivion about how I hate certain people
and I hate black people and I I'm a fake
Christian and all that stuff. And then you know, obviously
all the evidence comes out later, right BLM extorting money.
(02:49):
They bought mansion for themselves, none of it went to
impoverished black communities. George Floyd was a federal addict. He
was overdosed on federal He had enough federal in his
body to kill a horse. He was saying, I can't
breathe before he even hit the ground. He showed that
you know, if you look at the courts, and I'm
not even like, I don't think Derek Chauvin is a
great guy, upstanding guy. By what happened to him was
wrong because he was just following Minnesota State Police protocol
(03:11):
and he enacted less force than he was able to do.
He could have used more force. So you know that
his intention was not to kill George Floyd. And it's
more likely that George Floyd died from a drug overdose
than from Derek Chauvin. All that being said, right, we
all can believe it completely vintigated. But that really like
shook me to my core. I was like, so many
(03:32):
of you are deceived, and it's not just politics, but
there's a darkness. There's a spiritual darkness over this country
and over the West taking over the West. So I
was like, you know what, I'm just gonna speak my mind.
I didn't intend on like becoming a social media guy.
I just spoke my mind because I was like, hey,
if this just at least reaches my friends, like it'll
be good with all the lies surrounding whatever narrative that's
being pushed at the moment or at the current day.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, they call it like the current thing, right.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So and then from there just people saw me, and
then they saw the normal Korean guy just speaking his
mind and saying the quiet part out loud. And then
eventually what really took off for me was during the
stop Asian hate, the height of stop Asian hate, where
the Atlanta shooter killed.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Six Asians and that was really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But what they did is they politicized that event and
they started promoting and promulgating this narrative that is white
people responsible for all the as do everything.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's always white people's fault, right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But it's like, I'm like, Okay, that shooting was bad,
and we need to agree for the victims, we need
to do something to help the victims.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, But you've ignored.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Everything in the past, and even till this day, the
three years after that event, right, they ignored every single
ignored every single instance of a non white, mostly black,
you know, perpetrator of an anti Asian violent crime. And
I'm like, hey, this is bs. This is so BS
because you only care when the perpetrator is white. I
don't care if the perpetrator's white or black. Whoever's hurting Asians.
(04:55):
I care about that and it needs to stop. But
the only time people ever care, all these Asian celebrities, actors,
the representation, the only time they ever cares if a
white person does it, and.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Even if the black person doesn't.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And they do somehow, like you know, raise awareness for
a certain death right, they never say who did it.
But of course what the Atlanta shooting is always white.
This is terrorism, white supremacy, blah blah blah blah blah. Right,
you know, people saw that, Yeah, and then they saw
an Asian speaking the truth about these issues.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And then that's how I came up. And that's how
I'm where I am.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
At what point on X when you were posting and
where you're like, oh crap, like this is getting big,
Like I was just kind of just hanging in politics
and just given what I think about things, be there's, dude,
there's millions of people that post their political thoughts on X.
To have thirty five followers on a burner, yeah, you know,
and so but for whatever reason you're started catching steam.
(05:52):
At what point did you start realizing like, oh shoot,
like people are starting to see this and am I
am I ready for this? Yeah? It was definitely the
stop Asian eightes of because up until that point, I
didn't really have many followers on Twitter, you know, he
used to be twittered most of my followers like on
Instagram at the time.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But then yeah, I just just took off.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It just hit the algorithm and I had tons of
people re sharing my stuff, really big accounts, resharing my thoughts,
retweeting my thoughts, quote tweeting it.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
But also lots of.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Haters, lots of haters from Asian Twitter, you know, call
me a race trader, saying that I'm a I'm an
embarrassment Koreans to people from black Twitter saying that like
I am, you know, trying to lick the boot of
the white man all these How did you deal with
that when nothing rup but like when it first So
I've had my fair share of being called the Chrysto
fascist and Tristelle, Yeah that's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And I'm not even like that political at all.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I give my thoughts, but I'm not like and so
I'm like, I've got a taste of like the hate
dms that can happen when it first started happening, were
you already kind of like you knew what was happening
or did it kind of hit home a couple of times?
I think nothing could ever compared to my friends abandoning me.
And then so if a stranger is saying nonsense online,
I mean, at first, yeah, I'd be lying if I
(07:07):
said it didn't bother me. But it's like, you know,
I don't care because these are strangers, and these are
people who aboutedly hate Christ, they hate God, they hate
the truth, they hate anything that is good, true, right,
and beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
They hate all these things.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
They are purveyors and you know they proliferate ugliness and evil.
And then so I'm like, you know what, I don't
mind if these people go after me, but yeah, nothing
could really compare to the I guess, yeah, the pain
and the hurt that you get what I felt when
my closest friends just kind of abandoned me and betrayed
me and the kind of like publicly disavowed me. And
(07:41):
I'm like, bro, like you know who I am, Like,
just because you think that I'm wrong on this issue
doesn't mean you just completely throw me under your bus
and again completely vindicated after all these years with COVID too,
I had friends who literally cut off the cut ties
with me, because hey, we shouldn't be mandating this thing
that was developed in six months to all the population
when we know it doesn't stop transmission or infection. And
(08:04):
they're like, you're you're a conspiracy theorist. I can't be
friends with a conspiracy theorist. Like when they say, you
know what I mean, like, how to prove a conspiracy theory?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
True? You wait six months? Yeah, it's really that's really
what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And I was like, dude, I have a chemical engineering degree,
I have pharmaceutical background.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I worked at a pharmaceutical company at the time.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And I'm like, I'm not like this like crazy anti
vACC conspiracy theorist. I just think that it is not
right and not ethical by any means. This is completely
a violation of any sort of pharmaceutical norms.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, for development of vaccines.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm like, you got to give time for like robust
longitudinal studies to be conducted so we see the long
term effects of these things.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So you can't. But how dare you question the government? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And it's crazy and it's crazy and these same people
are saying the government is so corrupt and they hate
black people and hate minorities. But then ah, but we
got trust them with everything when it comes to COVID,
it's just it's just so much cognitive dis sentence there.
So you started posting and all of a sudden things
started to take taking up steam. And I know, last
time we were chatting, you mentioned like, you know, you
had some pretty notable people follow you.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
And then at what.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Point, so, like, is this your career? Is political conversations
your career? Because like as a question, I didn't really
asked you last night, like what do you do right now? Yeah,
I mean I just do a lot of I do
a lot of side gigs too, out of the side,
and I've been taking the past year two years to
kind of just realign I did have to take a
step back, and this is kind of part of my journey.
This is gonna be part of the YouTube video that
I released in the coming weeks, my first one in
(09:25):
a few years, and just explaining like I like, after I,
you know, left my previous company, social media became my
main source of income and I was making you know,
I'm not gonna lie about it. I was making pretty
good money, but then I got into trap of rage
baiting my audience to just like say the craziest, most
like absurd things, just to like anger them so I
(09:46):
can boost engagement, boost you know, shares and all that stuff,
and then I can show that to advertisers all that stuff, right,
and then I can make good money.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But I'm just like, we.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Like this was really corona my soul to the point
where I was finding with my family, who agrees with
the they agree with me. I was fighting my family
and I was like, wait, wait, wait, this is unhealthy,
and so had to take a step back. And the
past year and a half two years, I've been just
focusing on you know, spending time with family, realigning, serving
at church. I have to height them, like my politics stuff.
(10:14):
I wasn't really plugged into church, and so that was
just really crowding my soul. And so a lot of
these things just were not in alignment. I was not
living the life that I was purporting to live online.
So I just had to re align myself with God's
will and you know them straight and narrow, and I've
been just doing a lot of fun side things. You know,
I got into acting and that was fun. But you know,
it's tough because my social media is kind of forever
(10:36):
and you know, even if I do well and the
casting likes and producers like me, they look at my
social media a lot. This guy's whatever or whatever foe, right,
we can't have him on set. You can't have him
on this production whatever. Yeah, So it's you know, it's tough,
but it's been a good few years. I think I'm
just my I'm in a really good headspace now and
i think I'm ready to go and just go all
(10:56):
in with content and just make videos and get the
truth out there. Next for you, what type of the
content you think you're gonna make, and do you have
any type of plans of any type of promo we
can help you with and give people a taste of
what you're thinking. Yeah, yeah, So just gonna just kickstart
my YouTube channel again, Communly TV and just talk all
things faith, politics and culture. And so obviously I'll do
the same thing I've been doing, but a little less
(11:18):
emphasis because I used to talk a lot about like national.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Politics, like what's happening in d C.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You know, you know, polling data all that stuff, right,
But it's just like like that's not my thing, but
I really care about culture and how are any sort
of philosophical grounding or theological underpinning is how that informs
the way that we engage in culture and how we
create or even tear down culture.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And so I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Really just talking about culture a lot, where it's anywhere
from film and anime, create entertainments, you know, influencer of streaming, world,
video games, anything like that, And just because there's such
a huge intersection between that and politics these days that
it's all encompassing because all of these you know, racial
(12:03):
grievance politics and like the whole like ALGABTQ agendas and
like the anti natalism that's really prevalent, Like that's all being.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Injected every mediation.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You almost feel afraid as a straight white male to
show any culture, like any love or like I want
to wear this hat because I like, no, no, no, that's
a black person thing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You can't wear a flat bill.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, like because how you know, like you you can't
wear a flat bill because your cultural appropriation with the bat.
And I'm like it's like, so I think that that's
where it'd be interesting to have a culture talk. I
think that actually more peop when you talk about culture,
the beauties of culture, and share those things and not
be so like no, no, no, this is our thing.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
No no, no, this is our thing.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
There is merit in that, like you can't like, for example,
you know, Korean traditional clothing is called humble, right, and
then so let's say a white person came along and
they were humbling, and like this is English clothing. It's
like no, it's Korean clothing. Yes, So there is still
an element of you want to preserve your culture and
your hairstage to give respect, but it doesn't mean that
you can't share in it. And then so what a
(13:02):
lot of people, there's this proportion. There's rules for thee
or not for me. When it comes to cultural appropriation.
If an Asian wears braids that look like I don't
look redlocks or whatnot, they're like, oh, like you mean
you to cancel it because you're disrespecting black culture. I'm like,
I didn't know black people own braids. I mean Asians, Egyptians, Vikings,
they all wore braids for thousands.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Of years, so you don't even own braids or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, let's just say, like, white, what are white people
known for making money.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I don't know, like, what what do white people do?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Let's say I actually I actually got ratio and I
went crazy vile, I think, like earlier this year because
I said white people can't handle spice.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay, So, so like I don't like whatever the culture
things for Like, li's say white people. If like, let's
just say a black person's wearing like we were were,
I don't know what's a white person thing we wear? Well,
I mean, I mean asson it's high. Yeah. So like
if I see someone paying homage to like some white thing,
I'm like, cool, Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like my first thought isn't that's our thing? How dare
you now?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Again if they if they change it and say no, no,
this is our things, like, well, no it's not.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's our.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But I think there's should be a love for sharing
in the cultures of each other, yes, instead of this
like weird tribalism protectiveness that says no one can do
this unless you look a certain way. Yeah. But the
thing is, it's like, you know, I have no problem
with black people cosplaying as an anime character is cream characters, raight,
But the thing is like those same people do that
and then they scream in our faces if we're like, hey, like,
(14:21):
maybe you shouldn't just say that, like you shouldn't engage
in historical revisionism.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I don't know, you know the new.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Spot Assassin's Creed Shadows, and they're like, oh, like Yoske
was a real black samurai and it's not true.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's not true.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's been debunked over and over again.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And they're like, no, but he was a real black samurai.
And it's like okay, you how why is that?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Like okay, yeah, And then if we're like okay, then
maybe you shouldn't wear you know, Japanese clothes. No, we
get to do we get to do it, but you're
it's always the one. It's always praids or if you
do this, if you dress a certain way, if you
speak a certain way, your cultural appropriate. Like you see
this all the time on Twitter or on the Internet
of like people accusing Asians with trying to be black
(15:03):
because they rap, and I'm like, black people don't own raps.
But if you want to go that far, then stop cosplaying,
stop wearing Asian clothing, stop eating Asian food.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, we can do this. We can play this game.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
But only one way is culturally, like I guess acceptable
in our culture today because it's so there is and
this is something you know, this is why I go
crazy viral and you know, I anger people, but I
also have people who agree with me. There is a
certain preference for certain racial groups and minority groups over
others in the West, broadly speaking. And I speak on
(15:35):
it because it's really that's really going in hardcore in
the East as well. It's not just in the West.
And so that's why I speak on what I do,
and I say the quiet par out loud. Everyone's seeing it,
everyone's seeing the hypocrisy, and you know, people get angry
for it, but I'm like, they never ever dispute it
based on you know, logic or facts or on the merits.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's always about.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You hate people, or you hate this people, you are racist,
do this, And at that point I just don't care anymore.
I don't care if they call it these things these things,
because I know I'm not and I'm accountable to God,
my family, and my church, not accountable to these random
strangers online. Yeah, but like you know, you call me that,
these words don't mean anythingthing anymore. I'm not going to
spend my time, waste my breath being like no, but
(16:15):
I actually love all people.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You know what. It's a waste of time, but I'm
gonna just say the truth.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, and if it gets me in trouble, it gets
me in trouble. But also if it gets me you know,
the truth, the truth by definition is offensive. So a
lot of times the truth is going to be offensive.
Now you always try to layer it with a layer
of love, be bold with love, speak truth and love. However,
sometimes even if you speak truth and love, is still
going to be offensive. And I think it's a cool thing,
is what you're doing. I'm excited for your show man.
(16:40):
I can't wait for a drop. When he drops, let
me know, we'll make sure we try to boost im
promoted as best as we can, as well anything else
that you want to promo for the people, Like, I
feel like we could talk for an hour. Yeah, I
feel like right now, if I ask another question or
we go in again, we're.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Going to be another twenty minutes. But I'm going to
be cognizant of your time.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, yeah, And I appreciate that, and I love thank
you for having me, And I'll just say this, like
those who hate the truth will see the truth that's
hateful and so no matter how well you packaged. Of
course we shouldn't be intentionally so spiteful and so nasty.
But there is a time where you have to put
your foot down because a lot of these people on
the internet who throw tantrums, they're literally babies and adult bodies.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
They've never grown up.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
They never had good parents unfortunately, right, who disciplined them,
who just told them no. And if we just say
no to these people and say put our foot down
and say no, you're not gonna do that. No, you're
not gonna advance those anti natalists, anti family agendas. You're
not gonna destroy and rip apart the fabric of this
nation and of the countries and the homes that we love. Right, No,
you're not gonna do that. Right, We'll being been quiet
(17:43):
for too long, and it's time for sanity to come back.
And it's like, who cares if people call you names,
They're gonna do it regardless. Right, And you had someone,
you had terrorists who just literally ripped through just killed
dozens of people in Germany like yesterday and like but
you're not allowed to say anything about deportation or like
securing your boarder because that's racist, roxenophobic.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Who cares like this.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Is wrong, is wrong, and this is going to continue
to happen unless you decide to stop caring about the
name calling, right and just do what it takes to
secure your nation, secure safe streets, clean streets, order in
your country, and love and cohesion and cultural cohesion and
a restoration of national pride and identity again and and
(18:25):
if it takes all these people saying all these names
about you, whatever, but you know you're accountable to God,
your family, and your church, and as long as you're
good with that doesn't matter what these strangers who.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Don't know you're saying about you on the internet.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So just be firm, be bold, stand firm in the truth,
and just never let down because our enemies don't they
don't care. They're going full They're going whether we talk
or not. And so we we gotta be strong in
our convictions and we got to fight for goodness and truth.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So where can people follow you? Brother?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So my personal stuff is like Congman Jay Lee, But
then like all my like cultural political faith discussions are
commonly TV congonly TV. Yeah, awesome, brother, We'll make sure
you guys follow them. I think what I love about
you is that you're passionate about the truth. You've been
through some crap. I can tell that you're passionate because
you know we need more people speaking up, and I
(19:15):
think I would love my audience to support you as
best as they can.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Thank you for coming on the show, brother, Thank you,
I appreciate you. It's pleasure meeting you last night.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I'm glad to make it happen, and I'm sure it's
not gonna be the last time we chatted.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Sorry. Appreciate you, blessed, Thank you all. Thank you man.
A lot of these people on the internet who throw tantrums,
they're literally a baby's and adult bodies. They've never grown up.
They never had good parents unfortunately, right, you know the
new spot Assassin's Creed Shadows, and they're like, oh, like
Yoske was a real black samurai and it's not true.
Stop wearing Asian clothing, stop eating Asian food.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I mean, we can do this.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
And then if we're like, okay, then maybe you shouldn't
wear you know, Japanese clothes. You're like, no, we get
to do we get to do it, but you're not
allowed to do it. That shooting was bad and we
need to agree for the victims. We need to do
something to help the victims.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Right, But you've ignored.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Everything in the past, and even till this day, the
three years after that event, right, ignored every single instance
of a non white, mostly black, you know, perpetrator of
an anti Asian violent crime. This is so bs because
you only care when the perpetrator is white. I don't
care if the perpetrator's white or black. Whoever's hurting Asians,
I care about that and it needs to stop. But
(00:52):
the only time people ever care all these Asian celebrities, actors,
the representation.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The only time they ever care is if a white
person does it. Who is Congya? Like I pronounced it
right there? Yeah, you're dead. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You're stopping at this moment. Well, that's not my goal. Joking, joking,
I'm joking. I'm kidding. Yeah, So like, who are you where?
You have a big platform on X I do you know?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm small? Where did you? Where did this come up? Start? Man?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Like, like, we're start us in the story. Wherever you
want to plug us in on your story, We'll start there.
Let's I mean just short and simple. I'm just a
normal Korean guy, Korean American living his life. I love
the Lord, I'm seeking the Lord and trying to live
my life. And then shiz hits the fan. Let's you know,
I don't I don't know. I curse here, but uh,
you know, it's just it just went crazy. People lost
(01:44):
their minds in twenty twenty and that's where it all started.
So I had like my political awakening and like October
November of twenty nineteen, I used to hate Trump and
I realized they were lying about him. Yeah, and then
from there I was just kind of quiet about it
because I was in LA at the time, and you know,
everyone around me is liberal. They hate Trump. They think
he's like the next Hitler. Yeah, and so I just
(02:05):
you know, came my head down whatever. And then COVID
hits we alcoholme and then George Floyd dies, and then
from then people lost their ever minds. I mean just people.
I you know, I served a lot in church, I
did a lot of ministry on campus and all that stuff.
But then like these people were saying all like their lies.
They're saying all these lies, and I was like, hey,
(02:27):
maybe we should take a step back before we just
go all in and let our emotions take over and
just go into mass hysteria about this event. All the
information is down out there, and then I was smeared
into endless like oblivion about how I hate certain people
and I hate black people and I I'm a fake
Christian and all that stuff. And then you know, obviously
all the evidence comes out later, right BLM extorting money.
(02:49):
They bought mansion for themselves, none of it went to
impoverished black communities. George Floyd was a federal addict. He
was overdosed on federal He had enough federal in his
body to kill a horse. He was saying, I can't
breathe before he even hit the ground. He showed that
you know, if you look at the courts, and I'm
not even like, I don't think Derek Chauvin is a
great guy, upstanding guy. By what happened to him was
wrong because he was just following Minnesota State Police protocol
(03:11):
and he enacted less force than he was able to do.
He could have used more force. So you know that
his intention was not to kill George Floyd. And it's
more likely that George Floyd died from a drug overdose
than from Derek Chauvin. All that being said, right, we
all can believe it completely vintigated. But that really like
shook me to my core. I was like, so many
(03:32):
of you are deceived, and it's not just politics, but
there's a darkness. There's a spiritual darkness over this country
and over the West taking over the West. So I
was like, you know what, I'm just gonna speak my mind.
I didn't intend on like becoming a social media guy.
I just spoke my mind because I was like, hey,
if this just at least reaches my friends, like it'll
be good with all the lies surrounding whatever narrative that's
being pushed at the moment or at the current day.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, they call it like the current thing, right.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So and then from there just people saw me, and
then they saw the normal Korean guy just speaking his
mind and saying the quiet part out loud. And then
eventually what really took off for me was during the
stop Asian hate, the height of stop Asian hate, where
the Atlanta shooter killed.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Six Asians and that was really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But what they did is they politicized that event and
they started promoting and promulgating this narrative that is white
people responsible for all the as do everything.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's always white people's fault, right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But it's like, I'm like, Okay, that shooting was bad,
and we need to agree for the victims, we need
to do something to help the victims.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, But you've ignored.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Everything in the past, and even till this day, the
three years after that event, right, they ignored every single
ignored every single instance of a non white, mostly black,
you know, perpetrator of an anti Asian violent crime. And
I'm like, hey, this is bs. This is so BS
because you only care when the perpetrator is white. I
don't care if the perpetrator's white or black. Whoever's hurting Asians.
(04:55):
I care about that and it needs to stop. But
the only time people ever care, all these Asian celebrities, actors,
the representation, the only time they ever cares if a
white person does it, and.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Even if the black person doesn't.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And they do somehow, like you know, raise awareness for
a certain death right, they never say who did it.
But of course what the Atlanta shooting is always white.
This is terrorism, white supremacy, blah blah blah blah blah. Right,
you know, people saw that, Yeah, and then they saw
an Asian speaking the truth about these issues.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And then that's how I came up. And that's how
I'm where I am.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
At what point on X when you were posting and
where you're like, oh crap, like this is getting big,
Like I was just kind of just hanging in politics
and just given what I think about things, be there's, dude,
there's millions of people that post their political thoughts on X.
To have thirty five followers on a burner, yeah, you know,
and so but for whatever reason you're started catching steam.
(05:52):
At what point did you start realizing like, oh shoot,
like people are starting to see this and am I
am I ready for this? Yeah? It was definitely the
stop Asian eightes of because up until that point, I
didn't really have many followers on Twitter, you know, he
used to be twittered most of my followers like on
Instagram at the time.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But then yeah, I just just took off.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It just hit the algorithm and I had tons of
people re sharing my stuff, really big accounts, resharing my thoughts,
retweeting my thoughts, quote tweeting it.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
But also lots of.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Haters, lots of haters from Asian Twitter, you know, call
me a race trader, saying that I'm a I'm an
embarrassment Koreans to people from black Twitter saying that like
I am, you know, trying to lick the boot of
the white man all these How did you deal with
that when nothing rup but like when it first So
I've had my fair share of being called the Chrysto
fascist and Tristelle, Yeah that's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And I'm not even like that political at all.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I give my thoughts, but I'm not like and so
I'm like, I've got a taste of like the hate
dms that can happen when it first started happening, were
you already kind of like you knew what was happening
or did it kind of hit home a couple of times?
I think nothing could ever compared to my friends abandoning me.
And then so if a stranger is saying nonsense online,
I mean, at first, yeah, I'd be lying if I
(07:07):
said it didn't bother me. But it's like, you know,
I don't care because these are strangers, and these are
people who aboutedly hate Christ, they hate God, they hate
the truth, they hate anything that is good, true, right,
and beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
They hate all these things.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
They are purveyors and you know they proliferate ugliness and evil.
And then so I'm like, you know what, I don't
mind if these people go after me, but yeah, nothing
could really compare to the I guess, yeah, the pain
and the hurt that you get what I felt when
my closest friends just kind of abandoned me and betrayed
me and the kind of like publicly disavowed me. And
(07:41):
I'm like, bro, like you know who I am, Like,
just because you think that I'm wrong on this issue
doesn't mean you just completely throw me under your bus
and again completely vindicated after all these years with COVID too,
I had friends who literally cut off the cut ties
with me, because hey, we shouldn't be mandating this thing
that was developed in six months to all the population
when we know it doesn't stop transmission or infection. And
(08:04):
they're like, you're you're a conspiracy theorist. I can't be
friends with a conspiracy theorist. Like when they say, you
know what I mean, like, how to prove a conspiracy theory?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
True? You wait six months? Yeah, it's really that's really
what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And I was like, dude, I have a chemical engineering degree,
I have pharmaceutical background.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I worked at a pharmaceutical company at the time.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And I'm like, I'm not like this like crazy anti
vACC conspiracy theorist. I just think that it is not
right and not ethical by any means. This is completely
a violation of any sort of pharmaceutical norms.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, for development of vaccines.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm like, you got to give time for like robust
longitudinal studies to be conducted so we see the long
term effects of these things.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So you can't. But how dare you question the government? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And it's crazy and it's crazy and these same people
are saying the government is so corrupt and they hate
black people and hate minorities. But then ah, but we
got trust them with everything when it comes to COVID,
it's just it's just so much cognitive dis sentence there.
So you started posting and all of a sudden things
started to take taking up steam. And I know, last
time we were chatting, you mentioned like, you know, you
had some pretty notable people follow you.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
And then at what.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Point, so, like, is this your career? Is political conversations
your career? Because like as a question, I didn't really
asked you last night, like what do you do right now? Yeah,
I mean I just do a lot of I do
a lot of side gigs too, out of the side,
and I've been taking the past year two years to
kind of just realign I did have to take a
step back, and this is kind of part of my journey.
This is gonna be part of the YouTube video that
I released in the coming weeks, my first one in
(09:25):
a few years, and just explaining like I like, after I,
you know, left my previous company, social media became my
main source of income and I was making you know,
I'm not gonna lie about it. I was making pretty
good money, but then I got into trap of rage
baiting my audience to just like say the craziest, most
like absurd things, just to like anger them so I
(09:46):
can boost engagement, boost you know, shares and all that stuff,
and then I can show that to advertisers all that stuff, right,
and then I can make good money.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But I'm just like, we.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Like this was really corona my soul to the point
where I was finding with my family, who agrees with
the they agree with me. I was fighting my family
and I was like, wait, wait, wait, this is unhealthy,
and so had to take a step back. And the
past year and a half two years, I've been just
focusing on you know, spending time with family, realigning, serving
at church. I have to height them, like my politics stuff.
(10:14):
I wasn't really plugged into church, and so that was
just really crowding my soul. And so a lot of
these things just were not in alignment. I was not
living the life that I was purporting to live online.
So I just had to re align myself with God's
will and you know them straight and narrow, and I've
been just doing a lot of fun side things. You know,
I got into acting and that was fun. But you know,
it's tough because my social media is kind of forever
(10:36):
and you know, even if I do well and the
casting likes and producers like me, they look at my
social media a lot. This guy's whatever or whatever foe, right,
we can't have him on set. You can't have him
on this production whatever. Yeah, So it's you know, it's tough,
but it's been a good few years. I think I'm
just my I'm in a really good headspace now and
i think I'm ready to go and just go all
(10:56):
in with content and just make videos and get the
truth out there. Next for you, what type of the
content you think you're gonna make, and do you have
any type of plans of any type of promo we
can help you with and give people a taste of
what you're thinking. Yeah, yeah, So just gonna just kickstart
my YouTube channel again, Communly TV and just talk all
things faith, politics and culture. And so obviously I'll do
the same thing I've been doing, but a little less
(11:18):
emphasis because I used to talk a lot about like national.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Politics, like what's happening in d C.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You know, you know, polling data all that stuff, right,
But it's just like like that's not my thing, but
I really care about culture and how are any sort
of philosophical grounding or theological underpinning is how that informs
the way that we engage in culture and how we
create or even tear down culture.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And so I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Really just talking about culture a lot, where it's anywhere
from film and anime, create entertainments, you know, influencer of streaming, world,
video games, anything like that, And just because there's such
a huge intersection between that and politics these days that
it's all encompassing because all of these you know, racial
(12:03):
grievance politics and like the whole like ALGABTQ agendas and
like the anti natalism that's really prevalent, Like that's all being.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Injected every mediation.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You almost feel afraid as a straight white male to
show any culture, like any love or like I want
to wear this hat because I like, no, no, no, that's
a black person thing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You can't wear a flat bill.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, like because how you know, like you you can't
wear a flat bill because your cultural appropriation with the bat.
And I'm like it's like, so I think that that's
where it'd be interesting to have a culture talk. I
think that actually more peop when you talk about culture,
the beauties of culture, and share those things and not
be so like no, no, no, this is our thing.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
No no, no, this is our thing.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
There is merit in that, like you can't like, for example,
you know, Korean traditional clothing is called humble, right, and
then so let's say a white person came along and
they were humbling, and like this is English clothing. It's
like no, it's Korean clothing. Yes, So there is still
an element of you want to preserve your culture and
your hairstage to give respect, but it doesn't mean that
you can't share in it. And then so what a
(13:02):
lot of people, there's this proportion. There's rules for thee
or not for me. When it comes to cultural appropriation.
If an Asian wears braids that look like I don't
look redlocks or whatnot, they're like, oh, like you mean
you to cancel it because you're disrespecting black culture. I'm like,
I didn't know black people own braids. I mean Asians, Egyptians, Vikings,
they all wore braids for thousands.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Of years, so you don't even own braids or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, let's just say, like, white, what are white people
known for making money.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I don't know, like, what what do white people do?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Let's say I actually I actually got ratio and I
went crazy vile, I think, like earlier this year because
I said white people can't handle spice.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay, So, so like I don't like whatever the culture
things for Like, li's say white people. If like, let's
just say a black person's wearing like we were were,
I don't know what's a white person thing we wear? Well,
I mean, I mean asson it's high. Yeah. So like
if I see someone paying homage to like some white thing,
I'm like, cool, Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like my first thought isn't that's our thing? How dare
you now?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Again if they if they change it and say no, no,
this is our things, like, well, no it's not.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's our.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But I think there's should be a love for sharing
in the cultures of each other, yes, instead of this
like weird tribalism protectiveness that says no one can do
this unless you look a certain way. Yeah. But the
thing is, it's like, you know, I have no problem
with black people cosplaying as an anime character is cream characters, raight,
But the thing is like those same people do that
and then they scream in our faces if we're like, hey, like,
(14:21):
maybe you shouldn't just say that, like you shouldn't engage
in historical revisionism.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I don't know, you know the new.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Spot Assassin's Creed Shadows, and they're like, oh, like Yoske
was a real black samurai and it's not true.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's not true.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's been debunked over and over again.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And they're like, no, but he was a real black samurai.
And it's like okay, you how why is that?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Like okay, yeah, And then if we're like okay, then
maybe you shouldn't wear you know, Japanese clothes. No, we
get to do we get to do it, but you're
it's always the one. It's always praids or if you
do this, if you dress a certain way, if you
speak a certain way, your cultural appropriate. Like you see
this all the time on Twitter or on the Internet
of like people accusing Asians with trying to be black
(15:03):
because they rap, and I'm like, black people don't own raps.
But if you want to go that far, then stop cosplaying,
stop wearing Asian clothing, stop eating Asian food.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, we can do this. We can play this game.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
But only one way is culturally, like I guess acceptable
in our culture today because it's so there is and
this is something you know, this is why I go
crazy viral and you know, I anger people, but I
also have people who agree with me. There is a
certain preference for certain racial groups and minority groups over
others in the West, broadly speaking. And I speak on
(15:35):
it because it's really that's really going in hardcore in
the East as well. It's not just in the West.
And so that's why I speak on what I do,
and I say the quiet par out loud. Everyone's seeing it,
everyone's seeing the hypocrisy, and you know, people get angry
for it, but I'm like, they never ever dispute it
based on you know, logic or facts or on the merits.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's always about.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You hate people, or you hate this people, you are racist,
do this, And at that point I just don't care anymore.
I don't care if they call it these things these things,
because I know I'm not and I'm accountable to God,
my family, and my church, not accountable to these random
strangers online. Yeah, but like you know, you call me that,
these words don't mean anythingthing anymore. I'm not going to
spend my time, waste my breath being like no, but
(16:15):
I actually love all people.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You know what. It's a waste of time, but I'm
gonna just say the truth.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, and if it gets me in trouble, it gets
me in trouble. But also if it gets me you know,
the truth, the truth by definition is offensive. So a
lot of times the truth is going to be offensive.
Now you always try to layer it with a layer
of love, be bold with love, speak truth and love. However,
sometimes even if you speak truth and love, is still
going to be offensive. And I think it's a cool thing,
is what you're doing. I'm excited for your show man.
(16:40):
I can't wait for a drop. When he drops, let
me know, we'll make sure we try to boost im
promoted as best as we can, as well anything else
that you want to promo for the people, Like, I
feel like we could talk for an hour. Yeah, I
feel like right now, if I ask another question or
we go in again, we're.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Going to be another twenty minutes. But I'm going to
be cognizant of your time.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, yeah, And I appreciate that, and I love thank
you for having me, And I'll just say this, like
those who hate the truth will see the truth that's
hateful and so no matter how well you packaged. Of
course we shouldn't be intentionally so spiteful and so nasty.
But there is a time where you have to put
your foot down because a lot of these people on
the internet who throw tantrums, they're literally babies and adult bodies.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
They've never grown up.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
They never had good parents unfortunately, right, who disciplined them,
who just told them no. And if we just say
no to these people and say put our foot down
and say no, you're not gonna do that. No, you're
not gonna advance those anti natalists, anti family agendas. You're
not gonna destroy and rip apart the fabric of this
nation and of the countries and the homes that we love. Right, No,
you're not gonna do that. Right, We'll being been quiet
(17:43):
for too long, and it's time for sanity to come back.
And it's like, who cares if people call you names,
They're gonna do it regardless. Right, And you had someone,
you had terrorists who just literally ripped through just killed
dozens of people in Germany like yesterday and like but
you're not allowed to say anything about deportation or like
securing your boarder because that's racist, roxenophobic.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Who cares like this.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Is wrong, is wrong, and this is going to continue
to happen unless you decide to stop caring about the
name calling, right and just do what it takes to
secure your nation, secure safe streets, clean streets, order in
your country, and love and cohesion and cultural cohesion and
a restoration of national pride and identity again and and
(18:25):
if it takes all these people saying all these names
about you, whatever, but you know you're accountable to God,
your family, and your church, and as long as you're
good with that doesn't matter what these strangers who.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Don't know you're saying about you on the internet.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So just be firm, be bold, stand firm in the truth,
and just never let down because our enemies don't they
don't care. They're going full They're going whether we talk
or not. And so we we gotta be strong in
our convictions and we got to fight for goodness and truth.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So where can people follow you? Brother?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So my personal stuff is like Congman Jay Lee, But
then like all my like cultural political faith discussions are
commonly TV congonly TV. Yeah, awesome, brother, We'll make sure
you guys follow them. I think what I love about
you is that you're passionate about the truth. You've been
through some crap. I can tell that you're passionate because
you know we need more people speaking up, and I
(19:15):
think I would love my audience to support you as
best as they can.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Thank you for coming on the show, brother, Thank you,
I appreciate you. It's pleasure meeting you last night.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I'm glad to make it happen, and I'm sure it's
not gonna be the last time we chatted.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Sorry. Appreciate you, blessed, Thank you all. Thank you man.
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