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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Hello there, everyone, Welcome back to another live Thursday episode
to reconnected. Here with somebody that I've been hearing a
lot in my ears of the last few months, mister
Bob mccoley from the Split year Head podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Bob I went to clap. I'm like, wait, what.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I don't normally go over the clap, but I know
this is this is genuine an episode I've been anticipating
for a while. Like, I truly enjoyed being on your show,
and I really want more people. Yeah, so I'm excited
to share your your your wonderful voice with the masses tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh thank you. I really appreciate that. Yeah, I'm here
for the masses. So, like, let's talk blue rays.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We will be talking blue rays. We also got to
talk about Split your Head. We got to talk about
some other stuff. First, obviously, it is nine to eleven,
which is going to bring a dower note in itself,
So got to bring that up real quick. Yeah, obviously, yeah,
nine to eleven. Thanks. I love the attitude. It's obviously
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like it's it's twenty four years, it's still you know,
near and dear for a lot of people in their memory.
We've got multiple New Yorkers already here in the chat,
and the amount of impact that that has had on
multiple generations is never going to be able to be
measured properly, obviously. But now we've had a crazy week
on top of that, multiple things happening across the country,
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multiple things happening in one day. And I am always
being accused of being political on the show, but I
really wanted to avoid as much as I could this week,
considering it was going to be nine to eleven. However,
the world had a different plan, and so all I
really want to say tonight, which is not much. If
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you want to hear more about how I feel about everything,
you can message me or check out what I've written
on the discord over the last couple of days. But
the big thing is that clearly everybody should know that
the time is now for a change. It's time for
looking at what our country has devolved into and the
time is now. I'm not somebody that is celebrating anything
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that has happened that week this week. I think that's
a despicable feeling to walk into. However, I do want
to recognize is that somebody passing doesn't erase the things
that they've said and done. The only thing that truly
exists after death is the truth, and that experience is
here for us in the recorded medium. So I'm going
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to avoid as much as that as I possibly can,
because this show, in a way, is all about escapism.
We're all here for movies, which we all love, and
I'm here to escape with Bob tonight. So Bob, let's
transition from that into a note. First, it is I'm
wearing my Deaf Crocodile hoodie tonight because in the it's
Craig's birthday. Craig from Deaf Crocodile.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Happy Birthday, Birthday, Craig years all right.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I am genuinely constantly inspired by Craig, and I just
want to say that you are one of the most
important people that has worked in this industry that has
gave some sort of lasting impression on me. Craig You're amazing.
I appreciate you, and yeah, I am so stoked to
see what is coming in the future from you. Bob.
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Let's bring the spotlight back to you. Though everybody, your
head is.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
What is split your head? It's a originally started as
like a horror podcast, but as time went on, I
think that my brain split open and I wanted to
kind of reach out further beyond just talking about horror,
indie horror, So it encompasses a lot of things like
cult films, indie films, queer films, pink films, and occasionally
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death metal bands if I can get some people on.
So it's honestly, at this point just become like what
can I curate that all feels to kind of fit
in with sort of like a message or a universe
that I'm pushing out there and just trying to get
like artists out that I want people to follow and
interesting things to talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And somehow in every single episode, you do an incredible
job of that because you are a great interviewer. You
are a one orful cheerleader, I guess is a good
way of saying it. Kind of everything even nine eleven
just kidding, But the big thing is that your passion
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for learning about what the people are there to share
is infectious. And no matter what episode of your show
I'm listening to, I feel like I walk away going, well, shoot,
now I have to spend like thirty days deep diving
into something because my goodness, I want to envelop myself
and everything they just talked about. So you're doing great work,
and I want to say thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I appreciate that. I just try to look at it like,
what would the conversation be that I would want to
have if I was just meeting this person at like
a show or a bar, or just like hanging Oh,
thank you Krin, just hanging out with this person. We're
just friends, you know, and then just feeling like I
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can make it a bit more personal and I can
be a bit more engaging and maybe bring in my
own experiences and YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You You've done that very well.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Thank you very well.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I would say, let's go into some of your episodes specifically,
one of your most recent episodes was with this individual,
Dakota Knut who we were just talking before we went live,
and uh, we were talking about some of the episodes
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that I've heard that I've loved and again not recency bias,
but the amount of just unfettered passion in this newest
episode was so great. Dakota and Chris, I obviously a massive,
like podcast crush on them, but what you three together
pulled off was just an incredible conversation about a genre
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that sort of like for some people purposefully gets overlooked,
like they genuinely push it to the side because it's
icky or whatever in their minds. But it's really an
interesting deep dive into like socio political context and the
culture is based around some of these films. So tell
us about this episode just because I kind of want
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to promote this specific episode because people need to go
hear it this episode on pink Ou Films with the yeah,
the two in the pink Ou podcast.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, I've been following Dakota and his husband Christopher
for a while now in Letterbox, and I think seeing
their their writings on Letterbox really makes you realize, like
watching over six hundred pink films is so insane, and
in Dakota's reviews on Letterbox are so thorough, like he's
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got links, He's got like, oh this movie played originally
with this other film and this screening and blah blah blah.
Like it's so he's the kind of person that like
should be the next jazzper Sharp in my opinion. And
I've been saying, oh, well, thank you, I just saw
like I like his tattoo. And you know, I've been saying, like, Dakota,
you have to write this book on gay pink films
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like this doesn't exist. People need to see these kind
of things, they need to learn about it. And I mean,
what better people to write about it and to talk
to about this subject than them, because they have such
a like thorough and excited interest in the topic. And
those are the kinds of people I want to learn
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about things from people that are like genuinely excited, that
are spending like so much of their free time watching
these films and tracking them down, like going on to
like eBay auctions to find like the final like vhs
that like only one other person in the friggin world.
It's like, this is crazy, but it is also an
extremely disturbing kind of film as well. So seeing people
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so excited about that is crazy. Oh my god, Jeremiah
shout out, Jeremiah.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Oh, that was a great comment. Yeah. I mean Za
Coda and Chris's stories about like I just woke up
at three in the morning and I finally found the
last one.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, Like that's the sort of thing that I adore
and going into a genre like this to say, man,
we cannot find these films and we're gonna do everything
we can to find them and work to make them
available for everybody that is that is speaking my language.
So yeah, I love that episode, But I also want
to know what is what is your couple favorite episodes,
Like what do you think highlights? Bob the best?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Me? Holy shit? Yeah, I mean I couldn't sum it
down to too I think the first episode, Oh, Mikey,
what's up? The first episode that I was like, Okay,
that's my favorite episode. And this was in the first season.
Was my first time interviewing Louise Ward, who is like
a transfilmmaker from based out of like West Coast Canada,
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and her episode just schooled me on so many experim mental, disturbing,
transgressive films. Her experiences like making films with Ryan Nicholson,
like just her whole life was so fascinating, and I
think it was the first time that like an interview
ran on for that long and I was like, oh
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my god, it felt like three minutes and actually awesome enough.
I just got to meet her in person when Castration
Movie Part one. Yeah, Castration Movie Part one just premiered
in Toronto, and it was the second time I'd seen
the film, but I got to meet her and see
the four and a half hour long film in a
theater with people, which was insane, and she was just
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as cool as I thought she would be in person.
Such an amazing person and really just the kind of
person that makes me so stoked that I do the show,
because like, I'm getting to see artists grow and become
like these real bake pillars in the community. sEH, I'm
gonna just stick with that one answer, that one episode.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's a good answer, good answer. So you have focused
a lot on music, as you indicated, and I not
to like, hey, everybody, go listen to me, because you
hear me all the time. But I did an episode
with Bob and somehow we kind of devolved into the same,
like a lot of my episode is focused on music
as well. So what what place has music played in
(11:19):
your life?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I mean, it's been the amazing main source of creativity
for me since like literally eight years old, Like I
was like on the swing in the backyard writing songs
just by singing them.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Like.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I've been making music all my life. And there was
a point where I went to film school trying to
go into film and I kind of jumped away from
that after a couple of years. So really, this is
a point of my life where I have the least
amount of musical output going on, even though I'm still
trying to get a death metal band going on top
of like working full time and doing Split your Head
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and everything. But yeah, music has just been so important
and kind of the main way for me to express
myself and communicate and and heal myself through trauma that
I've gone through and things like that. Yeah. So yeah,
I never thought I would really get into podcasting, to
be honest, So somehow I'm here.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So what was that for that? Why did you start
that first episode?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Okay, So first off, I started working this job where
I was listening to a lot of podcasts, and I still, like,
I have a new job this year, but I'm still
kind of listening to a lot of podcasts at work.
And I think after a while It's sort of just
like innate in me that if I'm really into something,
I want to be a part of it and I
want to like create, you know what I mean. And
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so I think that was sort of like sowing its
seeds in me. And then Seth Brundle Fly who was
popping up earlier Jeremiah. He was running a horror website
called the Thirteenth Floor and oh this, wait, did he
just wrote this same.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's the same one I'm shighlighting in first?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Okay, Okay, I was like, you just what? So he
asked me to jump on board the site and write
for it, and then it turned into him and I
wanted to start a podcast, and so he's kind of
he was involved in like the first few episodes and
then kind of had to step away, and I was like, oh,
(13:22):
I'm really enjoying this and I wanted to continue it,
and here I am.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean, I love that many people that got into
podcasting were simply just oh, I like listening to podcasts
and I can probably do that, and then they bring
something unique. Everybody's got this own their own unique perspective,
their own experience that colors the way that they're going
to speak on things, and when you find somebody that
shares not not even necessarily like your views, but you know,
(13:50):
even a shared experience or shared trauma or shared outlook
or hope or hobby whatever, there's always something personal to
connect to. And I feel like as you've been able
to go on through a myriad of topics, because there's
so many that I could just shout out as like
great episodes, whether it be music or film directors or
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random people that work in the industry, and various podcasts whatever.
There's lots of different types of guests that you've had,
and every single one you have pretty deep connection. So
what is what is the research process? Do you like
actually have to research for every episode or is it
kind of innate because you've already been embroiled at all
of it?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Uh huh. I mean I if it's a filmmaker, I
try to watch as much of their output as I can.
If it's a band, I try to listen to the music,
and I guess that's pretty much it. You know, It's
funny because I've had a few times where there's similar mimic. Oh,
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we'll see. See there's a few other great podcasts that
kind of cover similar ground to me, like sick on cinema,
quality in cinema. Like they've interviewed similar kind of people
to me, and I've listened to their podcasts, and then
like just before interviewing the same person, and then it's
been like, oh shit, like how do I not okay?
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But I want them to talk about that? How do
I bring it up? And then there's times where I'm
just like, man, I already listened to you talk about this.
I just wanted to. But I think it really is
just like, honestly, I don't like interviews that are just
question answer, question answer. I want there to be kind
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of a messiness to it, you know, and I want
people to be more candid. And I think that kind
of like leaning into that maybe helps people loosen up
or maybe say more. Butter boys shut out, Okay, I
think that's sick on cinema. Yeah, I think as they're
lactose intolerant or something. But yeah, yeah, so research I
(16:07):
just yeah, I just try to take it all in.
I don't know if I really want to. I think, okay,
I think sometimes getting too much information sets you up
for asking about certain things when I want to. I
want that feeling of discovery to happen and people to
kind of reveal things about themselves. You know. I've also
learned too, and this is kind of a weird and
maybe you've picked up on this ryan for yourself, is
(16:29):
that sometimes asking a question that you that you're wrong
about something and they're like no, no, no, no, it's actually
this ends up bringing more interesting answers. Yeah, and that
kind of thing can really help your confidence as an
interview to be like like, I guess there's not really
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a bad question per se. It's really just how you
continue the conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, And to be honest, I've over the last couple
of years, you know, to doing more and more interviews.
I had never interviewed anybody before the show, and now
I get people saying like, you're a great interviewer, and
I'm like, okay, I guess I just kind of hang
out with the person and we just, yeah, we just
talk like I don't even see that sometimes as an
interview it's not. Yeah, it's so organic. And I've had
(17:18):
people ask like similarly to I, just what I just
did to you is like how do you prepare? You know,
do you write your questions ahead of time, I don't
write a single thing. I don't do anything to like
I'm going to cover these topics because if I do that,
it like stops you from going down the fun interesting
random avenues that you would potentially go down.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Well, okay, that is a good point. But I think
sometimes I will write a few questions because I don't
know if this has happened to you. This happens to
me once every like ten episodes. But I get a
brain fart and I'm like, oh shit, I'm recording. Oh
what am I gonna do? Oh man, there's actually I like,
(17:59):
I don't almost want to share it with people and
put up online. But when I was interviewing Philip Scott
Gorgan's who directed twenty nine Needles, which is like an
unearthed film, and he was one of my first interviews,
and I was like about to asking something, and I
was like, oh, I forgot I was gonna ask you.
And then I'm pretty sure. I just like froze and
I felt all numb and I was like drinking water,
(18:22):
and he was so nice, He's like, it's okay, don't worry,
it's okay. It took a good minute, and finally I
like bounce back. But I showed my wife the footage
of it late and she's like, oh my god, this
is the most ha hard thing. Haven't one day I'll
release s all the like bloopers as they put it,
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because I've had a lot of really fucked up bloopers
over the years.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Uh yeah, I've certainly had my person.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I can only imagine. Yeah, but you're doing it live,
so it's like, like a blooper can happen. Now what
are we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I mean, how many times did our internet screw up before?
Were at least three or four?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
This is what I don't understand. I switched from the
five G to the regular and now it's working better.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I don't get it, but we're here for it.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
We are, Yeah, Fiscal Medium Blue Rays.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
What are you into? What are you? What are you collecting?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So lately a lot of Japanese? But uh yeah, I
mean I just like everyone. I've been a big vinegar
syndrome guy for a long time. And I will say
their announcement of the USETO Volume one box set is
kind of like on par for me of when they
(19:36):
announced Spooky's when that came out, which I know you're
like man, that's a terrible movie. But I think that
movie is a masterpiece that wouldn't like.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
My chest areas. Oh wow, it's because I was drinking
when you said it's It's not that the movie is bad.
The release is great. But the big thing is the
story behind Spooky's coming out was legend for a long
time and with Sato stuff like genuinely this has been
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people have thought that this was impossible, not something that
was going to be happening, and now they're like, oh,
this is volume one and it's only three films. Guess what,
There's more coming. That is very exciting.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm stoked about that. And I mean
they probably will release the next one New Wave Interview.
I did, Yes, Actually I pre ordered Rubber's Lover Nice,
So that's another we were talking about this before we
started how right now it's like you know, we were
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I was supposed to bring pickups for this and like,
so much of the stuff I've bought lately is stuff
that hasn't come out yet. So yeah, like Rubber's Lover,
Hissias Usato. I also so shout out Bay Street Video
if you're ever in Toronto. They're the best Blu Ray store, purchasing, renting, whatever,
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and they get everything in reasonably priced, and so often
if there's something and I'm like, maybe it'll be a
little on the pricers side, I'll put my name down,
and so they're supposed to hook me up with the Cat.
Now you gave me a heart attack. I think when
you mentioned, was it you that the Cats sold out?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, the deluxe edition is fully sold out, so much
so that they fast tracked a standard edition. Usually eighty
eight films will take their sweet time, and there's already
a standard edition coming out in like October or November,
I think, because it's I think their first title to
sell out on pre order. Maybe ever.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Wow, well, I'm not surprised. Have you seen it?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I I saw it like seven months ago for the
first time, I think, and have not seen the Blu
Ray yet, but I imagine it looks great.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
You don't seem that excited.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I yeah, I am.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
The very greatest movie ever made.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Here. This is how excited I am. Okay, okay, and
one of these is going to a friend. But did
I have two of them?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
That's when they saw that you bought all of them.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Well, I'm giving one to a channel subscriber.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Okay, okay, that's fair. So I Bay Street should be
getting stock though, right, I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
They have at least some coming.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yes, okay, that's why I didn't know. I tend to what.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
He was talking about. He asked a question. I answered him,
I'm gonna be highlighted all night by the Oh okay
for you.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I thought these were This was like real time, like
what people are trying to say.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I am. I'm multitasking and doing about five things right now,
including highlighting comments.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I can never do this, Ryan. This is why you
have That's why I do a crappy little podcast, and
you've got an empire.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
An empire I wish. I don't even have four thousand subs.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Come on, I had oh sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
All that to say, you got some pickups show everybody?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
What do you? Oh? Yeah, so the most recent things? Okay,
So story about this. I saw the movie Drug War
in the theaters earlier this year at the Paradise. Oh
it's it's reversed, I guess, yeah, it's accurate. Oh okay,
so have you seen this Johnny Toe?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Is that all we'll go release? U?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah? Yeah? It was like fourteen dollars on Amazon. I
saw in theaters at Paradise Cinema. They do Eastern Promises
every month, which is like Asian curated films, and this
blew me away. This is such a good like crime
drama thriller. And I'm about to go visit my brother
in law and he loves films like that, so I
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was like, Okay, I'm gonna grab it. I'm gonna force
him to watch this. So drug War highly recommend it.
Probably the best Johnny Toe I've seen so far. I
really liked Heroice Trio, but everything else that's seen having
the crazy about.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Uh praise too. He's not a slouch or anything.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Okay, I need to see a lot more. I've only
seen three films. Been on a big Brian Pallen kick, Like,
holy shit, these movies rule. Yeah. This a friend showed
it to me. I'd never even heard of it, and
then quickly after that I ordered both of these and
not disappointed. His filmmaking is just unreal, like I'm a
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huge hole off in bock fan and like he feels
a little bit like an American ole off inbock to me.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Ooh, I've not heard that comparison. But honestly pretty apt.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Hell yeah, yeah, And as I was saying earlier, I've
been pre ordering a lot, so I don't have a
lot of new pickups. But the other thing I want
to highlight, because you mentioned you got a book recently,
was I did get this a few weeks ago and
I already finished it. But this is an excellent book.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Highly it is at the top of my wishlist. I'm
getting it very very soon, I think so.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
When I interviewed Dakota and Chris, Dakota mentioned this book
when I asked them in the questionnaire last great book
you read, and I was like, damn right, I've been
hearing great things about this. It talks about Louise war too,
which is really cool that she made it in this book.
And like, I'm not even a Wachowski Sisters fan at all,
Like I don't like the Matrix film. That was like
(25:15):
one of the best chapters I know. I've got hot
takes like that. Yeah, Like the Wachowski's chapter is super
interesting and it didn't make me want to watch their
films that much, But I loved reading about it. Great book, really,
really good book. Highly recommend this. Corpses Fools of Monsters
about the history and future of transist in cinema.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yes, this has got great reviews, that one. And then
the Mariah Gates book that just came out her cinema.
I think it's called or something like that. Very good. Yeah,
that one is great. Everybody needs to check that one
out too. I love that You're like, look at these
transgressive Brian Paulin films. And my first pickup is I've
(25:58):
never seen terms of in gear. So here's Oh no, shit,
is it good? It's like a classic supposedly, but it's like,
who all's in this? I know there's big like generic
white people. Yeah, Jack Nicholson, John Lithgow, Jeff Daniels. It
doesn't get whiter than this. But I've been really really
itching to see this. I needed to and it was
(26:19):
on sale for like ten bucks, so why not.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
That's the American prices because we get to mention I'm
from Canada and I spended all, oh yeah, way more
than you guys on blue rays.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's crazy, well funny enough you say American prices. Look
at what's at the bottom of the slip. That's not
an American release.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
That's kay right, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
And another one that's from the UK. I've been meaning
to see this all year. Better Man on four K
this is oh shit. This is the quote the Monkey
Movie that Williams I'm supposed to love. I guess krit
if you're watching, You're welcome. I finally have it and
now I can watch it on your behalf. Supposedly great.
(27:00):
I've seen one scene from it. It was impressive, but
I don't know why I'm gonna like it, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Do you like his music?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I mean I'm not like a fan. I appreciate what
he does. I've never once in my life went, oh,
you know what, let's put on a Robbie Williams album.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
But you are a millennial and so millennium probably when
you hear it, you're like, that brings me back a
little close.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, it's nostalgic. The one. Speaking of music, though, I
saved this one for last because it's the thing that
I'm most excited for. Amazon has been every single week
propping up like random coupon deals and I got for
insanely cheap microphone check The History of Hip Hop.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Oh that looks good.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Directed by Tariq Tarik Shed which you recognize, and he's got.
I mean, everybody's in this, We've got where is the
proper list of everybody involved. There's all kinds of interviews,
there's all kinds of just everything and dying to see it.
The thing though, that I really wanted to share since
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this is a Canadian episode tonight fellow comedian comedian Canadian
see Bloopers. It was like last week, I think I
said shark An instead of start one time. That's never
gonna get lived down. Robin Bougie, who knows somebody that
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has been a writer for a long time, put all
of their zines together in the Cinema Sewer line and
I got caught up with some of them. I love zines,
I love so much about them. But they also started
a music one. So here is Sonic Sewer Volume one,
and I am so eager to check us out. This
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is the kind of thing that really led to me
like wanting to do a magazine and getting inspired for
so much of that. So yeah, love stuff like this.
I will have all of these at some point, I
have to.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I should send you. A friend of mine has been
doing a zine called film Fuckers, Uh, Brandon Limb, who
I interviewed a while back. Yeah, it's really good. I'm
hoping to write something. Yeah, I should see that. That
does look really good. Yeah, I'm hoping to write something
in a future issue. But uh yeah, if I get
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a chance, I will Bob five Bound a shot. Yeah, yeah,
I know, I should watch it. Go back to you.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Uh the released by Saturn's Core.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah yeah o c N, Yeah through through o CN. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, that that's how Film Fuckers is a great yeah zine.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I'll get a bunch of them together and mail them
to you. I will do that.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Amazing. I keep meaning to reach out again the physical media.
It was supposed to be in Bay Street Video and
Dave just gone radio silent, so hopefully it will be soon.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Okay, Well I met the one of the owners at
Louise Ward's screening. Super nice guy named Brandon Wheelan. Uh
so I will I'll harass him. I'll physically go in
there when I get my copy of the cat and
I'll say what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Well, speaking of what the fuck, what the fuck have
you been watching the last couple? Oh yeah, what type
of movies have you been into?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Shit? I should have bust on my letterbox. So I
have been on a bit of a. As I mentioned
earlier Japanese Kick. I showed my wife Mermaid Legend last week.
She had never seen it. Watching it for the second time,
I was like, oh, this is an incredible film. I
have a feeling every time I watch it I will
love it even more. And then since the announcement of
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the Sato box set, I've been wanting to watch some
more of his films I haven't seen before, because like,
they're usually only like sixty seventy minutes long, so easy
to get through. So I watched Survey Map of a
Paradise Lost on Monday, and then his very first film,
which is a Distorted Sense of Touch, which is incredible,
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super harsh and just nihilistic but very punk rock. And
it's for his first film, I'm like, wow, like this
is amazing. But prior to that, more like normal films
I've watched. Recently, I watched Editing Eddington for the first
time not too long ago and actually really enjoyed that.
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For me, Ari Asters kind of like hasn't fumbled yet.
I've loved every film he's put out. I don't know
if everyone agreed. I think the consensus is that most
people don't like this new one as much, but I
don't know. I thought it was a blast.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I had a g I still haven't seen bo as Afraid,
So everything else i've I've enjoyed pretty pretty immensely.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, bo Is Afraid is kind of one of those
movies that's like so long, so self indulgent, so messed
up that you kind of just have to, like you
kind of end up like applauding the warts in a way,
you know what I mean, where you're like, man, he
just went so into his own like up his own ass,
but into his own down his own rabbit hole. Like
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I don't know, you kind of have to be into
that thing. You know, it might work for you, it
might not, but I don't know. It's a big swing
for sure. And I also watched Friendship, which was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Loved Friendship. That was that was definitely a highlight this year.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Superlative, super lady.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
We're also teaching vocabulary today. Superlative means it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Oh is it okay?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Oh super late. I thought it was bad. I was like, man,
if you don't like the movie, just say it's bad,
Like what's superlative?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Oh, this is gonna be fun to hear the podcast
episode later.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
So on that note, are you going out to the
theater much? Are you staying in for pretty much everything nowadays?
What do you what is your like?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah? I mean I mostly watch stuff at home. I'm
kind of at a point where I prefer renting new stuff.
I don't know if it's come up before in conversation
with how the state of like audiences can really real
the experience. Uh, And with all these movies coming out
that are like well over two hours, it kind of
doesn't make me want to go to the theaters. So,
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like Eddington, I ended up renting. I ended up renting
Sinners Canadian not English. Hell yeah, yeah. But I did
get to see weapons in the theaters.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Nice. That's a good That's a good theater movie. Like
the experience of everybody feeling it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, people were pretty respectful for them when that was good.
But other than that, I end up going to like
a lot more rep cinema stuff these days, like seeing
Louise Wards castration movie at the Beardie. Like Toronto has
a few really good theaters for stuff like that, where
it's all just kind of like curated screenings and they
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play a lot of old movies and weapons. Yeah, so yeah,
I think that's that seems to be more the more
theater going I do. And then I just at home,
like I've got a four K TV, so yeah, yeah,
it's nice to just be at home and just like
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you can pause when you have to go pee and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I can't argue with that. That is a very good point.
I will admit. My viewing habits this year have been
very unnatural for me. I was primarily physical media, like
not even primarily like one hundred percent, like I might
go to a couple movies a year in the until
this last May. My kids are now nine and ten,
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and I said, you know what, We've got two grandparents
that live in the city, and I've been dying to
like really keep up on the theater. So let's just
see if they'll be kind enough to be grandparents every
weekend and see when you get one of them to
just spend a day with the kids every weekend. And
since May, I think it was since early May, at
least one day out of every weekend I've gone to
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at least two movies in the theater back to back.
The most I've done so far is five in one day.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You did five screenings on one.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Day, Well, I've done eight with this guy with the
KB we went and saw the whole Nightmare on Elm
Street franchise in one day in the theater.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Oh shit, okay, I have to tell you this. Did
I tell you about my fortieth surprise birthday?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
No? But I think it was mentioned in an episode.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah. So my wife threw a surprise birthday for me
last December because I turned forty in December twenty seven. Basically,
she rented out a theater and got them to play
Night Right Now Shoot four, which is my favorite one.
And so I had no idea. I thought we were
going to go to Hamilton to visit her aunt, and
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all of a sudden we're like walking to go get
like I don't know, like what's it called panatone to
bring or something right, And all of a sudden we
like walk past the theater and she's like, oh, what's
going on in here, and like pulls me in there,
and that's all my friends like surprise and all that.
And yeah, we watched Night Right Now I'm Shoot four
in the middle of the day and then went to
a bar and it was the greatest day of my life.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
That's yeah, great, Oh it's awesome. Yeah. What's your favorite?
The night right Elm Streets.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Oh, I mean kind of basic, but Dream Warriors is
probably up there for me.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Oh that's excellent. Yeah, probably my second.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, I mean it is my favorite of like the
major horror franchises though, So they're all kind of special,
and it's they just have so much more to say
and have so much more substance to them, and so
many more I don't know, unique takes on the entire
thing than like Halloween. I can take her to leave it.
It's the first one's a classic. Oh yeah, everond one
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is okay, third one is pretty good, and then like
four through eight, well they're all right.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
My take is that Halloween is the weakest franchise, but
maybe has the strongest first film.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Okay, I would probably say that. Yeah, Brandon in the
chat says he's doing a twenty four hour horror marathon
in a theater in Pennsylvania. Wow, thirteen consecutive screenings. Jesus,
that is crazy. So yeah, this last weekend on I
think it was Sunday, I think it was Sunday, went
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to the theater. Well, actually We'll start with last Friday
when saw the new Conjuring movie. So we went to
the rare one night, my wife and I went to
see the Conjuring together. I will say this, this is
not a good movie, but if you like, if you
like the Conjuring films, it's very entertaining. I was certainly
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entertained the entire time. I had a good time watching it,
and then walking on and went, you know what, that
was a bad movie, but I'm glad I saw it.
Definitely like the weakest possible ending they could have written
for it. Sure is very very lame. Don't understand why
they went down that path at all. I don't want
to spoil anything obviously, but yeah, week week week ending,
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it's it's pretty terrible. My wife had never seen this
a spinal tap and the sequels about oh, so I went, well,
you got to see this as spinal tap.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
I showed her that and I laughed a lot and
she sat there quietly. So, oh no, but we're seeing
the sequel Saturday morning, and I cannot wait. Yes, Jim,
Conjuring four is infinitely better than Conjuring three. Everything after
spinal Tap. Sunday came and we saw our Technically, I
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saw four films in the theater. The first two I
watched with KB. KB came out and we hung out
with these first two. The first one Love Brooklyn. This
is a fairly buy the book Love Triangle story set
in Brooklyn that is super indie, just really great story.
My big takeaway from this is sincerely how much they
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allowed the writing to just breathe, and a lot of
modern filmmaking because they're trying to keep up with the
attention span of the idiots and wrote three in the theater.
It like quick cuts on everything. They'll like make a
snappy joke and then run away from it. This movie
very happy with like letting dialogue sit or allowing somebody
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to emotionally act. There's one scene in particular, in like
the bottom of a stairwell. Our main character is walking
away from the camera and he stops and you see
like his whole body slink for a second and like
deep breath, and then he makes a choice and continues
to walk, and that sort of thing is very deliberate.
Really loved that they could take their time with this,
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and I'm gonna be honest, it felt very almost Sean
Baker with how they did a lot of it. It
was like methodical writing. It was something that is almost
real time for the entire story. It's basically like a
slice of somebody's life. You're just hanging out for a
very specific set of time. But I loved Love Brooklyn.
Everybody should check it out. It is pretty pretty damn
well done. I truly enjoyed it. After that, we saw
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the movie Splitsville. Have you seen the trailer for Splitsville?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
No? Never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
So Splitsville is a entirely too complex film about a
couple that is going on some sort of road trip
and on this like drive, they stop and they essentially
decide to get divorced, or the wife decides, and the
husband figure runs away from the car and runs all
the way house and he goes to their friend's house
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and he's like, how are you guys so happy? And
they basically say, well, we have an open marriage, and
that leads to the husband that just left that other
car having an affair with this individual from this open marriage,
and then this is all in the trailers, so it's
not really a spoiler, but the story just collapses from there.
I think Splitsville is entertaining, for sure, but it's one
of those movies that had like seven endings. They could
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have called cut at least six times before we got
the final curtain. I will say it has a legendary
comic scene that we've not had in years for anything
like this. If you've not seen it yet, there is
a very specific scene on a roller coaster that is
by far probably my second favorite scene of the year.
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It is amazing.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I thought you were going to I thought you're gonna
say after the movie, fear.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
No, that's really funny. Oh, that's really funny.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, it's decent. It's not like a bad movie necessarily,
but man overly written and way way too many endings.
They just did not know how to They wanted to
finish that movie. But then I saw what was maybe
my favorite of the weekend, which was a movie called
The Threesome. This is about a gentleman that is at
a bar hanging out with one of his friends. He
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sees a girl that he had the hots four before,
and he goes to talk her up and she's not interested,
so he goes up to another girl and through this
weird sequence of events, the three of them the two
girls and him go back to his house and have
a threesome, and about two weeks later he finds out
both of the women are pregnant, and it's just the
awkward how do you handle this, especially when you want
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to be in a relationship with one of the two
and like one of them is kind of like leaning
like sort of conservative values, and how do you recover
from that? This one kind of similar to Love Brooklyn.
It took its time with the pacing. I think it
was pretty impeccably written. It was emotional in all the
right ways, but all so it peppered in like proper
comedic timing. And with a movie like this that is
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so personal on such a level about having babies with
two different women, it could have easily been like, oh,
this is sort of very awkward and we shouldn't been
laughing at a moment like this, But it worked very well.
I truly loved this one. And then, speaking of awkward,
I ended the weekend on a movie called Lurker. This is, oh,
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like a super fan movie. Somebody that adores a modern
artist and through just a happenstance in a store that
he's able to meet this artist and pretend that he
doesn't know the artist, and suddenly he can get close
to this artist and he just goes insane the entire time.
It is a really well acted movie, one that I
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didn't walk out loving, and then I realized over the
next couple of days it might just be because of
how awkward it made me feel, And then I've grown
to appreciate it more. Like the way that it it
just sort of hangs with you, like the the emotions
that are tied up, especially when you're like the third
act of this movie, it's it gets heavy, it gets
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really really awkward. I do wish it had gone maybe
a step further, but that's also just because I want
to see, like Satomascus things happening, I guess. But yeah, yeah,
good movie. Everybody's check out Lurker. It is really well done.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
What would you compare it to? Oh?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Uh, probably the closest would be a much more serious
Ingrid Goes West.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Oh really I love that movie.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yes, Okay, for the record, I said this, and then
it was commented Carrie Mulligan just said Lurker.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Was Harry Mulligan's in the chat what.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Us, Yes, you got all the famous people watching you
the night bub.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Damn it such your head.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Please all the links for the description please go subscribe
on your pots player and on YouTube. So, yeah, that
was my weekend. Anything you're excited about coming out soon,
anything that you're dying to watch other the Morsado.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Stuff, Black phone too.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
The tree looks pretty great.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Hell yeah, it looks amazing. It looks like it looks
like a nightmare. Yes, in a snowy cabin. I find, uh,
you know, being a lifelong horror fan. What's up being
a lifelong horror fan. I find it so easy to
fall into the trap of, oh, nothing's good anymore, it's
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all about the eighties or the nineties or whatever. Yeah,
so I try to be open minded about new horror films,
and this one, this one feels like like it's it's
it's working for me, you know what I mean, Like, Okay,
this is this feels like something I would want to
see in the eighties, even though you know I didn't
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watch eighties horror told in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, same, I get that completely.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Yeah, yeah, it looks cool. Trying to think what else
I don't know, I mean, October is coming up. I'm
trying to see, like what the Toronto cinemas are going
to play for Halloween screenings and stuff. There's a theater
playing all the Hong Kong classics that are now getting
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released on Blu ray, so Chinese Ghost Story and A
Better Tomorrow and all that stuff is playing at the theaters,
so might try to hit that up. Do you get
to go see older films at all in the theaters
or do you just have theaters around you that plays
new film.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
We've got a couple that do rep screenings. But even
like the AMC And that's, by the way, I'm not
like loaded or anything. The only reason I'm able to
see like stuff in the theater every weekends because I
had the AMC A list, So I get four movies
every week as part of the subscription, and it's twenty
bucks a month. Like I would be stupid, Oh not
go to that many movies.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
You pay twenty bucks a month to see like seen movies.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, four movies a week, and then if you if
you go to more than four, you have to pay
for those. But like, you still don't get charged the
convenience fees that you would if you were just a
normal person without the monk okay, And then you get
discounts on popcorn and soda and all that stuff. So yeah,
it's it's a pretty great deal.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Because I'm out here spending like sixteen bucks every time
I go.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah. Uh. I think it was last July we wanted
to go see In one day with the kids. Were
gonna be somewhere else, and my wife and I we
were like, we're dying to go see Twisters and Long Legs.
And we pulled up the app and we were like, wait,
if we're just going to these two movies, that's more
than the entire subscription already. Literally, let's just both subscribe
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and then we're paying less and we get more. So
we've been a subscriber for AMC A List for just
over a year now, and man it, I've never gottene
to the theater this much. And it has been incredible.
And I gotta be honest, the number of like bad
experiences that we've had this since May and I've seen gosh,
it has to be probably like forty five, maybe almost
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fifty movies that I've seen in the theater in the
last four or five months.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yes, it's it's been a lot. But I think I've
only had maybe like four experiences, and I wouldn't even
say any of them are terrible. There was one that
was really really crappy, like somebody like the entire the
entire p oh okay, disgusting the entire time. Yeah, and
then there was one like somebody kept turning on their
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phone and texting and stuff. But even then, like I
won't I won't just sit there quiet. I'll be like, hey, dude,
I spent money on this. Let's let's be respectful. Oh yeah, yeah,
try to fix it. So yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Yeah, in the same way you gotta nip it in
the butt.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
You do, it ruins it for the next two hours
for you.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Yeah. Absolutely. I try to even say something before the
film starts, if I.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Sometimes you just know, you know what I mean, you
stand up and announce. Listen, guys, I'm trying to have
a good time.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Jake says, wish we had AMC theaters and Iowa Cinema.
Oh yeah, that's true. That's true. I think that you
were in Iowa. Dan.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
I think we used to have AMC in Canada. I
don't know if we do anymore. I think there used
to be one in Toronto, and then it doesn't exist,
but we do have Imagine Cinemas, which the one up
the street for me, it's like a five minute walk
from where I live. They play five dollars classic movies
every week, so there's usually two or three movies that
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you can see that are like, like, I think they're
playing Goodfellas and Clockwork Oorngs right now for five weeks.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
So yeah, I've never seen either one of those on
the big screen. That'd be amazing.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah. Yeah, well Goodfellas especially, that's like a top ten
movie for me.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I uh, some big ones. We should probably get to
our announcement soon. Yeah, some big ones recently. Like one
of my favorite theaters in the area is not even
AMC of course, but it's a little theater called Screen
that Armor and every actually it should be coming up soon.
They usually do a Carpenter Fest every September October and
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they do a triple feature of John Carpenter stuff and
they don't tell you what they're screening until that night.
It's a mystery of just three of his films. And
we went to one and the first one that they
played was Prince of Darkness, and I've liked Prince of
Darkness my entire life, but I've never loved it. I
never got like, why is this a classic? Until I
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saw it on the big screen. So hard on the
big screen.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Yeah, that's that's one. That's like a magic guye painting
to me. You just you need to be in the
right zone for it. You know, you need to watch
it a few times, I think, and then it clicks
and you're like, oh, I love this. Yeah it's a
bad what's your favorite Carpenter film? And are going to
say the thing?
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I mean, it's up there, but Carpenter's weird because he's
one of my favorites, and it depends kind of on
the mood, Like I don't think it's ever It's never Halloween.
I don't think that's ever been really my favorite. If
I had to pick one that was probably the most consistent,
it might be Assault on Precinct thirteen.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Wow, okay, yeah, that's no reason.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
It just I think the big thing is I adore
that score. That is a score that I listened to
literally like at least once a month, just on random
to be able to work to the music.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
Wow. Okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, tonight we are gonna be talking about announcements, but
then covering a really interesting topic we are calling harsh
coming of age films or we'll be sharing five favorites
from each of us, and we're gonna dive into that
after the announcements, after what's coming up next week, we're
gonna have Bob explain why we're talking about that, So
get ready for that. But first let's get into some
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physical media. My friend WHOA all right? So November fourth,
Keino Lorber has boxed together all of their releases of
the Monk series that they put out and the film
Mister Monk's Last Case all into one box set. When
these came out, they were all like twenty five to
thirty five dollars. And they have a price on this
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entire thing right now to pre order on their website
at about one thirty. And if you're just doing the
math on this eight seasons plus a movie, you're saving
a ton of money just getting that box set. If
you were buying all of them beforehand, I would feel
a little bit taken advantage of just saying, tell me
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about how much you love Monk. Considering we talked about
this for twenty minutes before we went live.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
I'm more of a Wings fan.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Wings is great for everybody. The joke is, neither one
of us have ever watched Monk, and I've been wanting
to watch Monk for a long time.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
I just laughed when you put it up there because
I didn't see the upsets if Compulsive Detective earlier the OCD,
and I was like.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Who And I did really great tagline.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
Mister Monk's Last Case a Monk movie. I mean, I
think I'd want to watch that instead of the show.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
To be fair, supposedly it's pretty bad. It just released
like three years ago when the show actually started in
two thousand and two.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
But watching it without any context at all, like having
never seen the show would be kind of strange. You know,
it might be a fun experience.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
And just imagine somewhere Tony shlub is like itching with
his OCD.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Or is the detective? What? I don't know what I'm saying,
How do you Ryan?
Speaker 2 (53:42):
All right, let's go to our next one. In Print
announced the fourth of their four K releases that they
were peppering out throughout the week last week, November twenty six.
These are all coming out on the same day. They're
putting out a four K in Australia of Battle of
Britain from nineteen sixty nine. I know literally nothing about
this movie, but I do know that this release was
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restored by Imprint and it is authored by Fidelity Emotion,
which means this is going to look beautiful. We had
a new commentary by Steve Mitchell and Stephen J. Rubin
on here. There is going to be more new special
features that they're announcing later. There's also the Battle for
the Battle of Britain from nineteen sixty nine. That's a documentary,
some other archival extras, and then a whole second Blu
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ray disc with some other new extras, a new documentary
by Simon Lewis, new interview with Sheldon Hall, new feature
documentary including interviews with the original production crew. And this
also has one hundred page hardback book. Have you gotten
anything from Imprint?
Speaker 4 (54:41):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (54:46):
I don't know. I feel like I have. I must have.
At some point, did they put out the Ghostwatch release
ghostwad No?
Speaker 2 (54:56):
I think that was one oh one films in the UK.
I feel like I remember you saying you picked up
Shaw Shock. Did you get that one?
Speaker 3 (55:03):
Oh? Is that them?
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (55:05):
Oh? Yeah, Oh that's amazing. Everyone needs to go pick
that up.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Okay, yeah, that is in print. Okay, yeah, great stuff.
I love Shawshock.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yes, uh, Craig, what you just DMed me? Yes, it
is public he is saying that publicly, by the way,
weird thing to say in the middle of a podcast,
but Craig understands. Thanks Craig.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
Next up, what was he saying.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Well, he said he doesn't know if it's public information yet,
but David from Fidelity Emotion also did some of the
restoration work on that for imprint. They like work together,
and yes, he is saying that publicly that he did
some of the restoration work. So that is good to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
I thought he was asking about me.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
No, h Craig genuinely appreciate the authoring and encoding work
done by Fidelity Emotion because it can make an OK
release really shine just because he knows how to properly
put it on the disc see it. Next from Keno
is they are putting out a four K release of
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five of the Peter Seller's Pink Panther films. Now, these
are all brand new HDR Dolby Vision Masters from four
K scans of the OCNS. So we're getting the Pink
Panther from sixty three, A Shut the Dark from sixty four,
Return of the Pink Panther from seventy five, Pink Panther
Strikes Again from seventy six, and then Revenge of the
Pink Panther from seventy eight. Now, Keino did say in
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the comments that these are at first likely they're going
to becoming a single releases and then as a box
set after that. So this is really cool that they're
putting these out. These had been on Blu Ray previously
by Shout and they've been out of print and very
expensive for quite some time. So just to have the
Peter Seller's Pink Panther stuff out again is a big deal.
But oh my gosh, that is a great comment by Jeremiah.
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We need Pink ou Panther. Oh that was funny. Got good.
Are you Pink Panther guy or Peter Peter Seller's guy?
Do you know anything about those?
Speaker 3 (57:11):
So I've never seen Pink Panther and never seen any
of them. I've only seen one Peter Seller's film, I guess,
other than Doctor Strangelove, right, he's in that.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
He is, I believe. Okay, I've not seen Doctor strange
live in a long time.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
I've seen the party, which is not good. It has
not aged very well at all. Do are you familiar
with this film? Okay, so he does brown face in it,
and there's like a lot of a salty kind of
moments and it's a comedy.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
It's yeah, sounds hilarious.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
My wife's accountant at the time was like, Oh, you're
an actor, you should watch this movie. It's really good.
So he rented it.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
We're like, what, that's really funny.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Making this up. My wife's accountant said, to watch this
brown Face movie is a fun story.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
She doesn't go to them anymore. So, all right.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
I took a second for that to land in my mind.
It was like he recommended a movie and I had
to fire him. I don't know, No, I do know.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
He quit the business. I think he went into politics
or something that.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Good. Lord, this is this story's just writing itself. Yeah,
never mind. Next up September twenty third, Universal is putting
out Law and Order Special Victims Unit Season twenty six
out on Blu Ray. Season twenty five is the first
one of these they did on Blu Ray. I am
very interested to see that they're actually continuing this, which
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means the first one that they did must have done
pretty well. But also, you have twenty four seasons prior
to this, why don't you put those out on HG
as well?
Speaker 3 (59:01):
See I read it said twenty six season. I was like, damn,
this has twenty six seasons in this one Blu Ray.
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
That would be yeah, that would be pricey.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
I was feeling like, Wow, you guys get a win,
you know, like the fans of Law and Order Special
Victims Unit.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
Nope, this is just one season. Maybe. One of the
more exciting announcements for this week, November twenty fourth, Over
in the UK, we are getting a four K box
set called the Agatha Christie Collection and this includes Murder
on the Orient Express, Death on the Nile, The Mirror Cracked,
and Evil under the Sun. These are very very good
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movies for two of them, a pretty good movie for
one of them, and then an okay movie for one
of them. But the big thing is visually these are
going to be sumptuous. I do like that they chose
to very like hyper stylize the set. I think this
is a gorgeous way to present these. This could have
been so bland and they did something very very interesting.
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All of these have lots of good extras. But we
get two options here. You could buy this box set.
It also has a sixty four page booklet with new essays,
and it also has the four posters for the films,
or you can buy the individual releases. So we've got
Murder on the Orn Express. This is coming on four
K and Blu ray on the same day. This has
a new interview with Jacqueline Bissett, and then all kinds
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of archival extras that are coming on this And this
absolutely will be the exact same four K scan that
Keno just released this film. But I believe the rest
of these these have not been on four K anywhere
else yet. And so my guess, if you're in the US,
you may want to listen to this part. I would
bet that these are going to be coming to Keno
sometime in the next two years. These last three, that's
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just my guess. They're probably going to be pretty cheap.
And when you look at this release right now, I
won't say it's like super expensive or super cheap. It's
fairly priced, I would say, but if you go look
on Orbit or Diabolic DVD, this is going for one
hundred and six dollars US and the new Keno four
k's when they come out, they're about twenty seven so
if you think about it, that's that's at least close
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to buying four new ones.
Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
I like the packaging. I also liked this title of
the video essay.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yes Sparkling Homicide new visual essay by David Cairns. Spaghetti
in the chat is saying are two on Keno four
K already? I may be forgetting one. If that's the case,
let me know, I can only think of murder murder
on the Orient Express, so that's death on the Nile.
And then we have course got the Mirror Cracked. This
one has a new introduction for Miss Marple and that
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is just a featurette, and then all kinds of archival
extras from the previous Blu rays. And then finally we've
got Evil under the Sun. This has a new interview
with Emily Hoane, and then new Excessive Creek is visual
essay by David Cairns. So all of these you could
get single releases or the box set all on November
twenty fourth in the UK from Studio Canal, but most
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likely you're gonna be able to get him from Kino
eventually here in the US if you would like to wait,
Spaghetti says he thinks Death on the Nile is four
K as well. That could be I may be misremembering.
Thanks Blake. Next up House on Eden. This is coming
on Blu Ray of November eighteenth here in the US
from Shutter. This is a brand new film from twenty
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twenty five. That is, if you are perpetually online like
many of us, you may have seen Chris Collins on
YouTube or Instagram reels. She's huge on TikTok. Her and
her friends Selena Myers made this film. And I believe
Jason Christopher Meyer is Chris's husband or friend or something
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like that. But yeah, they made this fan footage horror
film and I gotta be honest, it's not that bad.
Sot in theaters this summer as one of the other
fifty movies I saw in the theater, and it was for
a first film that Chris Collins directed, who She's only
been a YouTube creator before this, She's never directed a film.
This was the first one. It was pretty competent. That
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being said, it's found footage, and I know a lot
of people hate found footage. How about you me.
Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
I didn't know you're gonna ask me. I just jumped
in in. I mean, I kind of love all strains
of horror and I love found footage. What would you
compare this to though, if you could.
Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Oh this, let's see overall tone. Maybe the Last Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Oh, I don't think I saw that one.
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
That is I think her name is Ashley Bell is
the star of that one, and she's like a contortionist
and she is possessed. And there is a reverend who
has been faking it for a while that is coming
to prove that his exorcisms are faked. But then this
last one turns out to be very real and it's
(01:04:03):
it's pretty damn good. That being said, it doesn't really
get super intense until the last act, and this movie
is very similar. It feels like a lot of lead
into a pretty great last act. This one. The climax
is really only like the last eight minutes, so it
does feel a little like, oh man, this is a
lot of lead up to just a little bit of scares.
(01:04:25):
But it's just very well made throughout the entire time.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
So did you see the Outwaters?
Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Not yet? I wanted to see.
Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Okay, yeah, we'd love to know what you think of
that one. That one's like a very unique found footage
horror film that came down.
Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I plan to watch it. I believe I've got it.
It came out through UCN.
Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Right, I think so that sounds about right, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
And Blake wanted to shout out that Death on the
Nile is only on Blu Ray, not on four K,
So thanks Blake. And then Daddy death Bone says Bob
Pully is the goat.
Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Anthony Leroy. He actually made a fantastic found foota tour
film called Bomb and I don't know if he's got
on YouTube yet. It's forty minutes long, incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
As awkward as this sentence is going to sound, I
am owning it before I even say it. Hey, Daddy,
you want to send me that link? I'll watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Anthony sent it to him.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
All right, thanks for pirating his movie in front of him.
Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
No, no, it's all good. It's all good, I tease.
Of course, movies are meant to be shown, right.
Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Yes they are, and so are TV shows. And speaking
of TV shows, October fourteenth, Warner Brothers is releasing Curb
Your Enthusiasm as a complete series Blu Ray set and
this cover blown up on the screen like this looks
really weird, like he is trying to escape from a
giant jar.
Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
He is.
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Answered, Daddy, he says, sending my bum to Ryan. I
am so sod Curb your Enthusiasm coming to Blu Ray
entire series? Are you a Curby your Enthusiasm fan?
Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Massive fan? I've I've loved this show for a very
long time. That's a very good Okay, yeah, huge fan.
I've been watching it since like the mid two thousands,
I guess, like I think I got into around season
three or four. Wasn't as into the last few seasons,
so to be honest, but this is actually something I
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could see myself picking up at some point just to
like go through like one through ten, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Yeah, yeah, I could see going back to this and
being happy going through it every so often. Reggie is
asking what the pricing on this is, and I just
went while I saw your chat and found on the
movies in website the retail price is one thirty, which
means coming up on Amazon, it'll probably be about one
(01:06:58):
fifteen one ten. I'm guess usually it's a little cheaper
on release over on Amazon. So, yeah, a little better.
Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Can you read that comment on there, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Which was what Michael J. Fox is about to be?
Michael J. Fucked up?
Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
That's great. That was a good episode.
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah, that is for sure. Curb only had one mediocre season,
but I think the worst episode was in the last,
says Carrie Mulligan.
Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Remember it to tell you the truth?
Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah, I gotta be honest. I'm due for a rewatch
of the entire thing. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
That is Curb.
Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
They are not up next, so I'll just go to
this one. November seventeenth, there's a four K and BLU
ray coming in the UK from Studio Canal of Murder
in the first I have never seen this movie. Have
you seen this?
Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Never heard of it, but it looks interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
So Christian Slater and Kevin Bacon and Gary Oldman starring
in this one. And it says after being imprisoned in
Alcatraz for petty theft, Henry Young played by Kevin Bacon,
leads a failed escape attempt from the infamous prison. As
punishment for the doomed getaway, prison warden Milton Glenn played
by Gary Oldman, places Young in solitary confinement for three years,
(01:08:15):
when Young is finally released from his tortuous ordeal. Now
a completely broken man, he kills an inmate and is
charged with murder in the first degree. This has a
brand new four K restoration of the film. It's got
Dolby vision, and then there's a new audio commentary by
the cinematographer Fred Murphy, and then some archival extras. Anybody's
seen this, I really enjoy like nineties Kevin Bacon, nineties
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Christian Slater and Gary Oldman. Has been amazing since date one,
So yeah, I'm very curious about this one.
Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Also, prison movies kind of terrifying.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Especially Alcatraz, which I grew up in California. I've visited
Alcatraz once on a loo, and yeah, I would kind
of really like to see this. I think I'd give
a shot if it's bad, though, I don't want to
watch it. So this is the one I was alluding to.
We also got another full series October seventh. There is
a full Blu ray release of The Newsroom coming out.
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This was the HBO series The Newsroom starring Jeff Daniels.
This has all of these special features that were on
the previous releases, all on their same discs. Nothing essentially
new on this, but it's the entire thing in One
Fell Swoop, so that can be helpful.
Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Never watched it, it's got some really relevant scenes, especially
during these last couple of years, so I would say
this is a good one to watch.
Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Okay, it looks like it has a cool cast.
Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
It does have a decent cast. Yeah, you got Emily
Mortimer and here Sam Waterston and then Aaron Sorkin did
some of his best writing on this. Okay, next up
movie we just talked about weapons. Got some release details
for this one, so October fourteenth. There is a four K,
a standard four K, and a four K steal but
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coming out, a Blu ray and a DVD release from
Warner Brothers on this one, and the extras. We're gonna
have Dolby Vision on this one. There is a Making
Horror Personal featurette with the directors at Craiger. We've got
a Cast of Weapons featurette, and then we've got a
Texture of Terror featurette. But no commentary on this one,
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which I feel like this one would have made for
a very good commentary, especially if you got Zach and
Julia Garner together and maybe a couple other like drop
ins from the cast. This could have been really fun.
Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Yeah, like Amy Madigan or something at least.
Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Yeah, but I mean, obviously you probably only need her
for the last half I guess. Yeah, Please tell me
what was your character doing in this scene even though
she is not going to be seen for another forty
eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Well, but I mean, you're not gonna watch it for
the first time. I'm with the commentary, right, so she
can be like, yeah, I don't know, chime in or something.
Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Just have her react to the entire film. That's the commentary.
Just start watching it. For those that haven't bought it yet,
the US steel book of this has been sold out
since like three days after this came out in the theaters.
Genuinely has not been able to be purchased since then.
It's been crazy. However, the UK steel book is identical.
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The only thing is that you won't get the digital code,
but you can pick that up on US retailers like
Orbit and brother Belile. It's I believe on both sides,
still available to be pre ordered. I love this movie.
This is this is I think I haven't listed right
now as my number three film of the year or
maybe even number two so far. So yeah, love this one.
Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Yeah, probably be in my like top five, but I don't.
I don't think I've discovered my number one yet.
Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Ooh what else is? What else is jockeying right now?
Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
I have no idea. I feel like I've seen a
lot of number twos, you know, like Sinners was great.
I really love the Ugly step Daughter the Shutter film.
Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
That's a good. Yeah, that one's my number five. I
love that one.
Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Eddington would be up there. Yeah, I don't know. I
just haven't seen that film that's like Bold me Over,
like The Substance or Poor Things or something, you know,
like those are my last two number one films in
a row. Yeah, very nice?
Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
All right? So that is weapons. Next up, Message in
a Bottle from twenty twenty four is getting a four
K release from Mercury Studios on October tenth. This is
a stage musical that is on the music of Sting
and the Police. I know nothing about this, so I
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won't say very much other then, hey, Bob, are you
into musicals, because I don't think I've heard you talk
about musicals very much, and being could be very hit
or missed with musicals.
Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Wait, so this is it sounds like it's people dancing
to the music. I think I could be okay with that.
I'm not really into musicals, especially in film form. Oh true, true,
I'll definitely watch that one Couch Odyssey or Frankenson probably
(01:13:28):
not sorry, I mean I might watch it, but I'm
just Pans Labyrinth for me is a masterpiece and I
haven't been able to get two into anything else by
Del Toro.
Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Maybe slight spoilers. Pans Labyrinth was my like the sixth
one on our topic tonight that I was going to
bring up. So it's it's not in the five that
I was going to talk about, but it was literally
like the one below that great idea.
Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Yeah, great topic or great topic, great suggestion you can
just get added in there at your own self on
the back there to go, bad way to go. Hey,
this is an album.
Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
This is an album. October seventeenth, we are getting a
four CD and one Blu Ray disc release from Bruce
Springsteen of Nebraska. Now this is a big deal for
multiple reasons. I've been trying to cover more music things
that come with Blu Ray discs, and this has an
entire disc of live performances, of course, but this thing
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has been like fabled for a long time, something that
people have been after for literally decades. And now you've
got Nebraska absolutely coming out, and I gonna be honest,
I can't wait to hear the entire thing. And I
may have to own this one eventually.
Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Oh okay, I think I've heard an album by I'm like,
who's this Bruce Springsteen you're talking about? No, I mean
I think my wife has one of his albums, and
he's pretty good. I wouldn't mind watching. I love watching
like music docs and like live con same stuff. So
(01:15:04):
I feel like I wish I could just watch the
Blu ray or something. Maybe you can do you know,
if it would be like rentable or streamable or something.
Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Ooh yeah, actually I bet you can probably buy just
the live performances on iTunes maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Okay, Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Okay, I would think maybe next up a kind of
the other Bruce Springsteen December sixteenth, it's a Blu Ray
release of Ginger dead Man Murder Thon from Full Moon coming. Now.
I say that because the Bruce Springsteen Nebraska thing is
a greatest hits of live performances. That's gonna be on
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that disc. Basically, this is a greatest hits of the
Ginger dead Man kills. Full Moon is just milking money
out of you. If you are somebody that likes Full
Moon or likes Ginger dead Man, you don't need this
unless you're like the world's biggest fan and you just
want a clip show. But it's not super niceial.
Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
What if you've never seen the Ginger dead Man films,
because I haven't, so I feel like maybe this would
be for me.
Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Theoretically, if you think that a clip show of a
gingerbread cookie killing people is okay the way I just
said that, it sounds like the most entertaining thing in
the world. Damn it.
Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Okay, Wait, wait, wait, Ryan, here's what you gotta do.
Nebraska is the soundtrack. You put the murderth On as
the visual. You turn the sound off on the Murderthon.
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
If somebody synks up the entire album of Nebraska to
Ginger dead Man murder Thon, that might just be the
greatest piece of art ever created.
Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Now, well, I'm an artist, so get ready.
Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Next up with the most non existent cover ever. There
is a four K steel book release coming of one
flew over the Cuckoos. Now there is no confirmation if
there will be a standard release of this coming, And
just an fyi for those of you watching this on
YouTube or live or whenever, this deal book is pure
black with the logo of the film on the cover.
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That's not the final design. Warner Brothers simply wants your
money before they reveal the art, which to me seems
really counterintuitive or like anti consumer. People are buying this
just hey, it's going to sell out, I may as
well buy it now without even knowing what they're buying
is going to look like.
Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Well, Ryan, I got to ask, because you always know
these things, what is the chances that they'll end up
putting AI art as the final artwork.
Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
For Warner Brothers. I would say the chances are about
three percent.
Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Okay, I would say very very low.
Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
If it was Universal, which we're gonna be talking about
in just a minute, because it's atrocious, it would be
something that I would say, oh, probably about eighty five percent.
But this is I don't know, like, what is the
art gonna be? This is this is not good.
Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Okay, So what if they just flipped the colors, I
mean white with black lettering could work. I feel like
I have an old DVD of this that's like almost that.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
I think so, But there will be a design. This
is not final, so it's not just gonna be the logo.
Oh god, I forgot all about Blazing Saddles. Did you
see the steel book for Blazing Saddles?
Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Okay, I got to bring that up in another tab
and show.
Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
So I might have seen it. But yeah, yeah, let's yes.
Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
But it was like sixteen months ago. So Blazing Saddles
four K steel book. When you hear about the movie
Blazing Saddles, what like iconic imagery comes to mind?
Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Uh? Like the main character?
Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Okay, so that would make sense. Would you? Could you
imagine a day that they just said, you know what,
let's just go with its namesake and light a saddle
on fire? What this is the actual steel book cover
for Blazing Saddles.
Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
And it's okay, right if you didn't tell me that
that was a saddle on fire, I probably need a
minute to be like, what am I looking at? It
looks like a it looks like a leather piece of
shit or something kind on fire.
Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Like what, let's let's do this.
Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
It's floating. I mean it is a saddle, but like
it's literally well because you never see saddles as just
a saddle. It's always on a horse right right, And
it's AI too Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Wait, was I mean we're assuming it's a The fire
is obviously really poorly done on here. I mean there's like, yeah,
you see if I can zoom in more, there's like
no detail in that fire.
Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
It's also not really covering much of the front part.
Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
No, I don't know, man, Thankfully, the front of the
saddle is only on fire on the right side behind it.
Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
I don't understand why companies do this, because like there's
so many amazing artists. Are they really that expensive? Like
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
I mean so, I guess it's like a whole can
of worms open than that up. I'm sure right?
Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Like yeah, yeah, Ronnie says the one flow over the
Koko's Nest cover art. There's just gonna be a bird
literally flying over a nest.
Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Could be okay.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
I really liked Jake's comment. More like AI zing saddles.
Oh no, Terry says, maybe we get Jack Nicholson flying
over a bird's Nest. That'd be pretty funny. Yeah, Connor
said the same thing. Yeah, so many bad covers. Let's
get into more of them, because there is there's about
(01:21:05):
to be a couple that are really really bad. But anyways,
more details on one floor of the Cuckoo's Nest. This
is rumored to be coming on December seventeenth. We don't
even have a release date yet, but they're actually out
there getting people's money for this and you don't know
what it looks like and don't know when it's coming,
but please pay us. That's wild.
Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Yeah. Is this the first time it's been out on
four K or the first time it's coming out of
four K?
Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Ah, okay? Interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
So it is like it is highly coveted. It's one
that people are going to want, people are going to
be excited about. But it's I don't know, it's it's
a it's a bad way to go about it. I
think a good way to go about it, though, is
this release of a movie that I loved. November three,
there's an Ultimate Collector's edition over in the UK coming
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of the Wild Robot. This is a four K steel
book in a hard box case. This will be limited
to three thousand worldwide, and I loved this movie. Did
you see this one?
Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
No? I don't. I don't know if I even heard
of it.
Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
It is an animated movie that came out talking about
like it's like a post apocalyptic animated movie. Okay, and
it's pretty dan't good. I enjoyed it. Everybody's check it out.
If you've not seen it. That being said, you probably
shouldn't buy this release as your first four rate. It's
like sixty dollars. Don't don't spend that one.
Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
They went all out. There's like a poster, there's some
postcards or something, and.
Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Double sided poster, multiple art cards, and an individually numbered
hard box release.
Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Damn, where's the mousepad?
Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
That's over at Celluloid Dreams. Dreams They did the mousepad
for their first release, and it literally like they still
get rid of it on sale. Oh, Brendan says, tear
Vision literally just did that. Yes, that is true, and
it's really funny that you bring that up. However, there's
a big difference. It's fifteen dollars and it's not just
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like an it's horrid. It's at least focused on horror.
But the whole point is you kind of pick it
up as part of this. But anyways, I get what
you're saying, and that's really funny. Thanks Brendan. In my
interview with New Wave Video recently, they revealed that their
fourth title will be No Rico's Dinner Table. This is
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essentially a companion piece to Suicide Club from Chion Sono.
This is like a it's not necessarily a prequel. Well,
it's kind of like a prequel and postquol is that
the word a prequel and a sequel at the same time,
because it bookends it sort of.
Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Yes, sandwich it's.
Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
The breads and Suicide Club is the sandwich. That's a
not a tasty sandwich. But yeah, this should be coming
sometime in the new year and looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Now onto the most atrocious arts that has come out
this year. And what's funny is I had already showed
this art on the German release just to talk about
how bad the art was a couple of months ago,
and I got a comment that said, h if you
look in the bottom it says the art is to
be confirmed. Well they have confirmed it. Universal is releasing
this atrocious either AI or photoshop of Casino. And I
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first of all that is supposed to be Sharon Stone
on the right. That looks like Beyonce fell into a
vat of mayo and it's not good.
Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
She just looks really surprised, like like.
Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
So surprised her head stretched.
Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Oh that too, Yeah, yeah, you know what, it's okay,
Like if this was real, maybe it could work. Maybe
you don't need all this like rainbow stuff around the
lens flares, you know, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
It's I like the Vegas lens flair in the background.
If that in this the entire cover, and it wouldn't
have had the three people and it would have just
been the colors with Vegas on the bottom like this. Oh,
I was hiding it with the comment, So Vegas is
at the bottom of the of the steel book. If
you left that and just took the three people off,
I feel like that'd be good looking.
Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
But like if the three people were shot, you know,
like a real photo. It's it's similar to like the
Goodfellah's original cover. There, I think that could work.
Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
No, I'm sure, I'm sure it would be great. I
was just trying to save them money too.
Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Yeah, Okay, isn't this AI didn't we determine that or no.
Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
I mean it's either AI or really really bad photoshop.
Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Okay, not not sure.
Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Yes, they photoshopped the AI. It is possible. Really puts
the no in casino. She kind of looks like a conehead,
she does. Why is her head so tall? She is
like the punchline of the horse walking of the bar,
and the bartender says, why the long face your head is?
Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Knock that fall?
Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Anyhow, we got more nasty ones to point out from
Universal later, so we'll come back onto them. But for covers,
eighty eight Films is putting out a website exclusive of
the film SS Experiment Love Camp. This is coming out
on four k over in the UK and the US.
This is coming out on October twenty seventh. You can
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only buy this on their website. And this is a
hard box release with the original video nasty cover art. Now,
when this title was first announced, everybody was up in arms, Oh,
they can't release the original art. Well look at it.
They did, and they're trying to get you because it
is the only one that will be a website exclusive,
So now you can go buy it from them. It's
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a it's a crazy cover. Obviously, the black circles are
not there on the cover. But YouTube does not like nipples.
So here we are.
Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Have you seen this?
Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
I have not seen this. This will be why this
comes out.
Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Oh, you're gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Okay, this is I'm kind of into the video nasty stuff,
so I definitely want to.
Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
I really want to get the Elst four K. It's
four K right from Keno. Okay, I need that, But
I've never seen this one. I don't know. Maybe i'll
get it. I love that's artwork.
Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
That first ILSA four K is in October and the
second one is coming in November. That quickly, I.
Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Thought they were gonna do a box set.
Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
They will, just like the Pink panther ones we just
talked about. They're doing all four and then they're gonna
bundle them all together after that.
Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
I don't like that. I want all them right away.
Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Anyways, Daddy says, I did not see this one. Looks great.
Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Next we got the third announcement, speaking of Japanese films
of the Obiyashi titles coming from cult epics that I've
helped produce special features on. This one is The Island
Closest to Heaven from nineteen eighty four, coming on November
twenty fifth, with cover art by the amazing friend of
the channel, Sam's Myth and man does he nail it
every single time. I think that gorgeous. Cannot wait to
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see this in hand. This one has a two K
restoration of the film, an audio commentary by Derek Smith,
who Aaron over from Sinna Journey's helped me find Derek
Smith and Derek crushed it. This commentary is great. Everybody
should check this out. There's also a visual essay by
Alex Pratt on Katakawa, which is the production company behind
these four films, and Obayashi, and then there is a
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Tomoya Herada twenty eight Days in Caledonia, the Making of
the Island Closest to Heaven speciallet, special featurette that came
from the previous release, some trailers, and then new slipcase
of course, and then there will be a my favorite
part of this entire release, We've got a reproduction of
the original twenty four page Japanese booklet and they just
essentially reprinted the entire thing so you could archive it
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and see what it looked like.
Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
I love that sweet. I haven't seen this one, but
I grabbed the third window box set of these films
when they came out, was it like two or three years,
four years ago? Yeah, this is a it's a while
ago now now I think about it.
Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
It's been a bit.
Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Yeah, this is maybe the only one I didn't get.
I haven't had a chance to watch yet. Did you
like this one?
Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
I kind of love all of these. I think they're
all very they're all very unique because none of them
really feel the same. In fact, one of them feels
like an anime. This one feels like a like a
dreamy drama. His motorbike Er Island is like, I don't
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know this, this like takedown of toxic masculinity in a way.
But it's like this very brutish type of story that
they're telling with it. And then School in the Crosshairs
is the it's the closest one to House of the Four. Yeah,
and it's just bonkers. Like Crosshairs is amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
It's kind of almost like political. It feels like a
political allegory for fascism, and then it turns into like
a fireworks display at the end. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Yeah. That box It, by the way, came out in
October of twenty two, so yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Been Oh shit, okay wow.
Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Next up, the thing that got me the most racist
comments on Facebook this week, What.
Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
What Happened?
Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Morder Archive releasing the Tom and Jerry the Golden Era
anthology from nineteen forty to nineteen fifty eight on December second,
all on Blu Ray. This is a six disc deluxe
collect It has all of the theatrical shorts here, one
hundred and fourteen of them across six discs, and the
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big Story here, which is why I got so many
crazy comments. These are all uncut, so we even have
two all new, never before seen featurettes, including a Lady
of the House, the Story of Mammy Two Shoes, which
is one of the more stereotyped depictions that they had
on one of these. And then there's Animal Hyjinks, The
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Friends and Foes of Tom. And then there's a collectible
twenty eight page booklet that will be in here as
well with the artwork and essays. This is an incredible
looking release, but my god, the amount of people in
the comments demanding that the blackface be visible in this
release or please tell me this will not be woke
like all of the other terrible res in the last
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thirty years. Is atrocious. There are literally, if you go
over to Facebook and look at this announcement post, hundreds
of comments like that. And I gotta be honest, I'm
usually very composed in the things. I lost it a
couple of times, and man, I lashed out to some people,
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and it's really funny.
Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
I think, whoa Bryan, you turned woke on them?
Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
I did turn woke.
Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Yes, well, these people sound like idiots. Yea, A right, wait,
not sorry, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
I'm not sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
I don't know how to deal with that anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
I agree, Wave, you are absolutely correct. All right. I
am going to the next one. This is another weird
looking cover.
Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Yeah, you have fifth.
Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Season, which is one of the production companies that works
with Apple TV. They are releasing a Blu ray of
The Morning Show seasons one and two. This is coming
on November eleventh. And uh, I don't think there are
any extras here. I can't find any that is showing
any extras on here. And this is twenty episodes of TV,
which I'm glad that they're getting a physical media release,
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especially when it's been on Apple TV and those are
kind of hard to come by. However, this thing right
now is going for one hundred dollars. One hundred dollars
for twenty episodes when we just talked about Curby Your
Enthusiasm is one hundred and thirty at retail. There's a
big difference there. Yeah, this is kind of crazy priced.
Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
I think have you even had you heard of this show?
I'd never even heard of it.
Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
I have heard of the show, like I think there
was even some Emmy nominations for this show. But at
one hundred dollars, damn, unless that goes down by like
forty bucks, I don't see this as being properly priced
at all.
Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
I don't get it. That's a lot, Yeah, for what
was it, twenty episodes?
Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Twenty episodes?
Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Yes, is half hour hour long episode.
Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
I've never watched this. I think Ronnie has watched this
is this is this half hour hour?
Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Half hour?
Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
So?
Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Yeah. The other thing, this is Jennifer Anderson and this
next to her, this is supposed to be Reese Witherspoon,
and I don't know if I just haven't seen Reese
Witherspoon in years. That does not look like Reese wither
How are we your references tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
To me?
Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
That doesn't look like Reese on the cover.
Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
I don't think you're in the same room when they took.
Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Ronnie says it's an hour that's why. And yes, Gary,
I think most of the Apple TV shows are four K.
So why is this a blu ray? Honestly to save
some money.
Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Probably it's a eight disc? Said, is that what that says?
Eight disc? Wait? Did you?
Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Yeah? Eight disc?
Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
I think what Why is it that many discs?
Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
That is a lot of discs. Yeah, that is a
good question.
Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
That's why it's one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
I did not see that before. Good Eye Bob. Anyways, Hey,
I talked about earlier, but this is coming on Blue
Ray in December sixteenth from dcal and Neon rated. Yeah,
check it out if what I said earlier sounds good.
If not, maybe stream it to see if you like
it first.
Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
It looks like the movie you described.
Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Yes, very complex and very messy.
Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Yeah, there's a goldfish.
Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
That no spoilers. However, the goldfish has a reference in
the roller coaster scene that I was talking about, which
is why it is one of the funniest comedy scenes
of all time.
Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Is a goldfish riding a roller coaster?
Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
I will not say anymore. And if you want to
be spoiled after the stream, let's discuss, because oh my god,
it is hilarious.
Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
I'm sold.
Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
November twenty sixth Imprint is releasing the complete series of
Sting Ray from nineteen sixty four. This is one of
the Jerry Anderson and Sylvia Anderson shows. This is a
seven disc Blu ray set, all thirty nine episodes included,
plus they've got all kinds of extras on here. Both
of the compilation films are also included. I kind of
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love the way that they are presenting these releases of
the Anderson series. And yeah, this looks good, looks like
a good release.
Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
What else did these people make?
Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
They made the Thunderbirds show.
Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Oh okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
And when I zoom in here, you might remember, like
the look of these I believe they're puppets.
Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
Okay, I love puppets.
Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
A it's a weird sentence, but somehow, what do you mean,
I'm just kidding. Somehow I was gonna say I love
puppets too, and maybe to make it more weird. When
I was in the Gifted and Talented in elementary school,
I was placed into a puppeteering class and I had
to make a marionette and a hand puppet and something
else that I don't remember. It's been a long time,
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So you.
Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Went from making fun of me to one upping me.
Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Iraq not making fun of making light of the situation
because yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
All right, yes, well you are the master of puppets.
Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
That was a segue that I should have used.
Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
November twenty fifth, Keno is releasing a Blu Ray Blu
Ray only box set of the Death Wish collection. Yes,
Charles Bronson in all of the Death Wish films. We
get one, two, and three in one set, four and
five and another set, and Keno before this had not
released Part two, and they are releasing a standalone of
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Part two as well, so these are going to be
released on the same day. For the record, death Wish
two gets both cuts of the film. I don't remember,
but I don't think Vinegar Syndrome on their four K
release had both cuts of the film. This is gonna
have both cuts of Part two. Part three has an
alternate ending which has never been released anywhere before. Part
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three is also getting a four K release from Keno
as well, So if you are checking out Death Wish
love Charles Bronson. Even though this is a bit of
a downgrade because one, two, and three will have four
K releases and this is a Blu ray box set,
this might be a really great release of this set.
Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
Is there gonna be a box set of the four ks?
Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
No? Because four and five are not on four K,
and this is what they're choosing to do. Okay, it
is a bit of an odd choice, Yeah, especially when
you've already done one and three is already coming. Why
would you not just put those four K discs in
here as well?
Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
Is it like ch something?
Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
I mean, four K is more expensive, but Pino puts
out like seventeen four k's a week. You're you're not
losing much money putting this out on four KA. I
don't know, I like not Okay, four K four K.
Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
That's probably not the first time you said that on here.
Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Eh Actually I think it is. But that's only the
second A that we've gotten tonight. So we gotta we
gotta pump those numbers up.
Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
I'll get them up there. Eh uh.
Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Next, we're getting Peer Cinema in a four K steel book.
On December ninth Sinnadim and screen Box are releasing scream
Boat from this year. Yes, the public domain horror film
making fun of Steamboat, Willie. This is coming in a
four K and blu ray steel book set. You get
a making of you get a deleted scenes and then
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audio commentary with David Howard Thornton, the man that plays
the star of the Terrifier franchise Art the Cloud. So
I've not seen this. The only one of the main
horror films I've seen is the Bandy one that came
out this year.
Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Okay, I haven't seen any of them. Somebody was recommending
me this one on letterbox and I clicked on it
and I saw like it was all bad reviews. But
this person was like, no, they don't understand. It's so fun.
I'm looking at him. I'm like, yeah, if I can
stream it, yeah, why not? But uh, I love the
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terrifying movies, so maybe it'll be good.
Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
I've heard this one is fun. I've heard that never
Land Nightmare, the Peter Pan one from this year is
supposed to be the best one.
Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
Suppose Oh maybe I'll start there and.
Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Look at that. Ronnie says. Screenboat is going to be
streaming on Peacock starting tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Peacock I think that's an American streaming channel.
Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
So yes, it is the NBC streaming service.
Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Yeah, I'll find it. I'll find a way.
Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Gary says, I would have called it Steamboat.
Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Killy, Steamboat Killy, no oh good, it could.
Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Have been Screamboat Killy at that.
Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
Point Greenboat Killy says Screamboat was a lot better than
the mean one.
Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
But I don't understand why that director hires Thornton but
doesn't utilize him too well. Well. Not only that, isn't
his face not visible in most of the film. That's
what I've heard. And that's like for Arthur Clown, that's
one of the things, like his face is visible.
Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
True.
Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
I don't know anyways, that's Screamboat coming on December ninth.
Next November three, we get a blu ray in the
UK from screen bound of The Old Gun from nineteen
seventy five. I've heard this is amazing, This says, a
gripping French war drama set in nineteen forty four, starring
the acclaimed Philippe Noire, something like that. I'm terrible at French,
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as everybody told me last week, thank you and romy Schneider.
When surgeon Julian Dan Dieu's why and daughter are mascreed
by I'm using French accent when I shouldn't be. Now
our mastered s his quiet life turns into a chilling
quest for vengeance. Armed with an old hunting rifle and
unrelenting grief, he methodically hunts their killers in a remote chateau.
(01:42:16):
That is a French word. I should have used, a
winner of three Caesar Awards, including Best Film. No extras
on this, and I'm sitting here with the Canadian. I
should have had you read all the French words.
Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
No, I don't know French. My wife is fluent, though
I could bring her in here.
Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
But yeah, yeah, I need to see this. I've heard
that it's very good.
Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
It sounds cool. I would watch that. It's like a
revenge film pretty much. Ray Yeah, kind of sweet.
Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Coming out on the same day from the same company
screen Bound on November third of the UK is The
Children of Huang Shi. This is from two thousand and eight,
starring Chow Yon Fat looking a little old there, Michelle
Yo looking a little young there, Jonathan Reese Meyers looking
the same as always there. This says in nineteen thirties China,
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British journalist George Hogg, an American nurse named Lee, and
a Chinese partisan leader named Chen joined together to rescue
sixty orphans. Together, they lead the children on an amazing
but dangerous journey over snow covered mountains and harsh desert
train in search of a safe haven. H Sibner says,
French is not Ryan's jen a sa quay. That was
(01:43:30):
a joke. I know how to read the word. That
was a purpose. Do not attack me, please. Ronnie says,
I wasn't trying to attack you last week, trying to
teach you. Oh no, no, no, I was not saying you, Ronnie,
I got I should have gave some context. I got
multiple dms after last week's show of making fun of
my friend, Wow, multiple dms just saying hey, your French
(01:43:53):
is bad. And all of it was done in like
a playful jest way. None of it was mean. I
did not mean it like that. I just needling back
like everybody else did. But I appreciate it because I
need to learn how to speak certain French words better,
especially because they keep coming up.
Speaker 3 (01:44:10):
Can you speak Spanish?
Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
I actually can. I grew up in southern California and
versus Spanish and high school. So that's pretty good. It's
movie be in yeah, October twentieth. Over in the UK,
we are getting a blu ray release from Kaleidoscope of
Strange Journey, The Story of Rocky Horror. This has also
led to me banning multiple people from my Facebook page today.
(01:44:33):
What yeah, just going on? Homophobic assholes? Are what? Yep?
Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
What year is this?
Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
I will refrain from saying what I want to right now.
This is a in depth documentary on a Rocky Horror
picture show, with revelatory interviews from the original cast, including
Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon, Barry Bostwick, Petroch, sha Quinn and more.
I'm very eager to see this. I kind of wish
(01:45:04):
they were able to include this with the four K release.
Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
I feel like this would have made money in the bank.
Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Yeah, but they said no. No, nobody said no. They
didn't even try. They probably didn't even know what was coming.
Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
I would like to watch this.
Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Uh yeah, I will be watching this for sure eventually.
Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
Is there one on Phantom of the Paradise, you know?
Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
Ooh, an actual documentary? I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
Yeah, okay, that would make fun.
Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Well and actually, speaking of that, guess what today is
Brian to Palma's birthday? How tough. Happy birthday, Brian to
Palma and New York City.
Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
Wait, that sucks.
Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
I love that you. You didn't lean into that for Craig,
who was in the chat earlier.
Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
But oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Oh this is fun. And Sibner in the chat says
it's his dad's birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
Yeah, happy birthday, mister.
Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Let's keep going to more atrocious cover art jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
Oh what what is is?
Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
This?
Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Is this like the sequel to Reba?
Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
Yes, kind of exactly. This is another TV show coming
on November fourth. We are getting from Universal again, the
one that just butchered Casino, a Blu Ray release of
Happiest Place Season one. This is a Reba McIntyre led show,
returning to a multi cam sitcom. And good lord does
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that cover look atrocious?
Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
It's not a happy place.
Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
No, I don't feel very happy looking at it. No cheers,
but says Waive, that's what it feels like. Uh is
that the ghost of Chachi hunting the cover? I don't know,
but I've heard Joni loves them.
Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Kerry Mulligan says it's also John Ritter's death day.
Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
Geez oh that sucks.
Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
I read them back and tired of this.
Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Poor.
Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
Oh that's a good line, daddy nice? Why is that
so sexual?
Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
All right, Saint denis medical.
Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Yes, and look at again, how atrocious Universal is doing
this cover art. It's like the exact same thing as
Happy's place. Let's just photoshop all people into a cover
and make them all look awful.
Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
Okay, wait, David al Greer, right, okay. And then this
woman at the bottom right was she on Fargo season
two or something? She's in that movie Crampis as well.
Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Hang about I think that is her?
Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Okay, And then a bunch of people have no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
This is Wendy mcclevin Covey, who is in Reno nine
to one one.
Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
Oh in Bridesmaids.
Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
Ray, Yes, it does not look like her at all.
Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
No. Not. She also has a large head like.
Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
The Sherry Lark head.
Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
Yes, this is Walmart Bargain Beinn.
Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Ronnie says, that is Alison Tolman, who's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
So yes, you were right, Oh, okay, okay, yeah, she's
pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
So I didn't even say at the beginning. This is
also October twenty eighth, Blu Ray in the US here
for Saint Denis Medical season one. And just like Ronnie said, like,
I didn't watch these shows, but I am very happy
that they're still putting out modern shows on physical media
and giving some people time to purchase these and see
if they're willing to give them a second season or
(01:48:50):
continue to put them on physical Yeah. Cool that they're
doing it. There is one more, unfortunately, or maybe two more.
Even this one not as bad, and I've heard the
show is actually good October twenty eighth. Yeah, they're also
doing Day of the Jackal season one. This is starring
Eddie Redmain. I need to check this out. Supposedly very good,
(01:49:14):
not nearly as photoshopped as the other two.
Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's at least acceptable.
Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
And then that is it.
Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
Wait, I was like, there's a movie of Disconnected.
Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
That's just picked the top of the Instagram account. Yeah.
So that is the week in announcements, which is much
lighter than it has been over the last couple of weeks,
which is pretty cool. Yeah, let's go into what is
releasing next week in case you forgot we just talked
about this last week, But Tron Legacy and Tron are
both getting their four K Steal Book releases next Tuesday.
(01:49:52):
We get this is Spinal Tap four K from Criteria
excuse me next week to come out as that at
the same time as the sequel Cruel four K Steel Bock,
which is going to look amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
We got a couple standard releases from def Crocodile going
wide with Ruslan and Ludmila, the Pipe Piper, Jerry Barta
Schortz and The Devil's Bride Cinderella Man four K releasing
next week. Night of the Juggler four K, which I
ain't no literally last night my partner in crime, Will
Dotson went to see in the theater and we spent
(01:50:24):
I don't know eight or ten minutes today talking about
it on the phone. He was blown away. It was
the first time he's ever seen it and he could
not stop raving about it. I am so gud to
see it.
Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
Yeah, same, Yeah, very excited. Sounds awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
Meat Ball's four K Steel Book from Lionsgate Limited. This
is already shipping. Tyler wants to know who's releasing that
kroll It is Sony. Tony is releasing Ye. No, uh,
Moving right along, we get the undersne and Under released
on physical Media Halloween and Halloween two on four K
Steel books from Spring Factory. Yes, that was a joke, Bob.
Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
I was like, wait, is it like the rob Zombie one.
We're like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
No, no, no, these are still the underseen ones. The
Betrayal from Radiances. Next week, Daybreakers four K from Lionsgate Limited,
Speak No Evil, the US remake from No This is
the studio, not Screen Factory. That's the James McAvoy film
which James McAvoy also having a bad week. He was
physically assaulted.
Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
I heard he handled it pretty well though, He just
like lapped it off or something and the guy was
like wasted. It happened in Toronto, Toronto.
Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
Yeah, oh man, that was a weird memory to have
as I saw his face Born in Flames from Criterion.
His next week Flaming Brothers from Eureka coming out Hellbender,
which highly recommended. This is coming out from Arrow. This
is the Adams family that made that film.
Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
From VCI The Buster Keaton Show coming to Blu Ray.
I believe this is for the first time Los Golfers
from Radiance as well. The Alexander Patishko fantastica box set
from Deaf Crocodile getting a wide release Requiem for a
Dream four K gift set, which is still the weirdest
sentence to say, ever, because if I'm giving you that
as a gift, I really don't like you. Best Christmas
(01:52:21):
Movies ever documentary from MVD rewind Volkeni Zadora from Oscilloscope,
which I've been.
Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
I watched it. It's really good.
Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Nice mat Yeah, The Wrong Arm of the Law another
Peter Sellers coming from Keno Dakota from Cult Epix, Hotel
Rwanda media book from Cape Light, The John Wayne Gasey Murders,
The Life and Death in Chicago if you want to
check that out. Also coming. Okay, We're getting a documentary
on mash next week. One to highlight This one So
(01:52:53):
Unreal from Altered Innocince, one that I've been very eager
to see since that got announced. And then My Dead
Friend Zoe, which got quite a lot of great reviews
earlier this year. Loved me some. Natalie Morales This Is
My Father from Sony Pictures Classics, whole bunch of random
anime stuff. And then Shakespeare's Shipstorm four K from Trama.
That's a trauma film. Damn, oh, I forgot about this one, Matt.
(01:53:21):
I can't say this word uniform. I believe it's Maiden
in uniforms. The other way to say that. Ronnie will
probably correct me on that one. I'm definitely wrong there.
We got Big Helium Dog getting its first release through
MVD and that partnership that they did the Santo Versu
and Fernol Men from VCI. We've got Tulsa Tais from
(01:53:42):
VCI and that is what.
Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
Is the Tulsa Terrors. That looks interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
It is supposedly a documentary on films made in Tulsa.
It covers blood, cults, the Ripper, and it's the story
of the maid for home video movie business in uh
in Tulsa, I believe.
Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
I mean, that sounds great, But I was hoping it
was going to be those movies all in one set.
I love sets like that.
Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Yeah, those those can be pretty fun made, chin, I was.
I was kind of cool. All right, that is it
for the week next week? Any of those are excited
for that? You've got pre ordered?
Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
Uh? No, No, it was a lot that I didn't
know was coming out. I think all the priority pre
orders I did where it was like two weeks ago,
you know. Yeah, but there was some stuff there I
really want to check out.
Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Yeah yourself, I do have meatballs coming. That was almost
a weird sentence. I haven't seen you, and I definitely
wanted to see it on four K other than that hellbender,
and I will eventually get spinal tap on four K
because it's yeah, it's spinal tap.
Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Oh, and I already got the one volcano Zadora that
you saw, because I yeah, a cell the scope. I
already got that one in Oh nice.
Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
Yeah, I watched it on Prime. Have you seen any
other films by Joel Patrekyas I believe his name is.
Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
I'm not sure. I'm gonna go click on the movie
and see what the list? Do you know all the
titles off hand? Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
Buzzard, refresher, I think is what it's called.
Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Relaxer, Relaxer, Ray, I've seen Relaxer.
Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
Yes, okay, did you like it?
Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
I loved relax Oh okay, yeah, I truly loved it.
I got it from Anti Worlds. It's like the the Partner,
well not partner, it's like the sister company of Indicator
over in the UK that focuses on modern films, and yeah,
it was one of the first releases and I really
liked it really.
Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
Yeah, then I think you'll love vulcan Isidora. It is
kind of a weirdly. I think it's almost like a
loose sequel to Buzzard. So if you can see Buzzard
at some point before vulcan is Zadora maybe will help.
But I don't think it's a huge deal one too, right,
(01:56:21):
I'm not too sure. I don't own either of them.
I think I rented all of those when they came out.
Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
I didn't realize it was the same director that did
Ape and The Alchemist Cookbook and both of those through Ocen.
Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
Oh, okay, I haven't seen those, but I'd like to
see more of his work. It's all like, I mean, yeah,
you've seen I can't remember Relaxer, relax Yeah, good job, Yeah, Relaxer.
It's all kind of in a similar like, I guess,
kind of mumble Cory vibe. But this one feels the
(01:56:53):
most ambitious and the heaviest. I would say, yeah, yeah,
I've never even heard of Machenforum. All the money went
to Imprint. Yeah, I mean Imprint seems to be killing
it right now.
Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
I mean, I gotta admit their Jade release is looking
better by the day as I qc audio commentaries that
are going to be on that disc. Shit, it's their's stuff.
By the way, that we didn't talk about that last week,
but that they're listing for Jade has been updated and
includes all of our special features that are be on
the disc. We did two audio commentaries for that, so
(01:57:27):
now that release has three brand new audio commentaries, I believe,
which is much better than the Vinegar Syndrome release. We
also have an interview with the editor that we did,
and then a visual esday by Michelle Kisner, which is
amazing and incredibly edited. I'm very stoked that we were
able to get so much on that disc. For sure.
Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
Sweet, that's a schrader, that is Freed Kim Freakin. I
tend to get them mixed up for some reason. I
don't know why.
Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
It's the good filmmaker. I'm just WHOA just kidding.
Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
Damn, that's a hot take that was.
Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
There'sould be like nineteen comments of that.
Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
Okay, so freaking is better.
Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
I think freaking is higher. Highs all might be a
little more consistent.
Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Okay, this is a comparison. Wait, freaking is Darrio Argento
strainer is Lucia faulty? Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
That is that is apt? That is apt. I mean, yep,
that was well done.
Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
Money in the lean, uh.
Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
And I mean like First Reformed is still great, so
just so, yeah, Argenta still got some bingers for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
Well, I mean he's kind of tapered off. Yoh yeah, sure,
like freaking in a way, but freaking I mean the
Exorcist Sorcerer who.
Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
To live and die in La Cruising Cruising is amazing. Yeah,
Carrie Mulligan says, damn, I bought that vs. Jade release
thinking or release of that film would never be better. Sorry,
it's much better, but also it's I hate to say that.
Never mind. I won't go into the pricing because imprint
is I understand the problems with imprint pricing right now,
(01:59:24):
like the Last Seduction is up for pre order and
it's like one hundred and six dollars for one movie.
To me, that's crazy pants. But the Jade release is
it's gonna be great, and it is. It is significantly
cheaper than the Last Deduction, but I get it, especially
because for a lot of people would be double dipping
because they probably got it from VS. Gentry. From the
(01:59:47):
Sin sind Kip podcast audio commentary by Nita K. Martin
and Will Dotson. Nina K. Martin is the author of
Sexy Thrills Undressing the erotic thriller. That commentary was literally
recorded this morning, and it is fantastic. It is very
very good. All right, But why are we talking about
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harsh coming of age films tonight?
Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
Because they break your heart and your spirit.
Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
Well for everybody like that, they don't know what that means. Possibly,
So how do you define a harsh coming of age?
Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
I think, okay, I think that I started grouping these
altogether after watching a few films in particular where it
felt like a coming of age film where these really
harsh moments were happening that weren't fully explained. And the
more films I watched that kind of fell under this umbrella,
(02:00:45):
it reminded me of like my own experiences growing up,
of like when you go through traumatic event, it's not
like everything wraps up neatly, you know, and it's not
like you have all the answers right away to kind
of like file it away, you know. And it's so
it's interesting me for me to watch these films where
directors are actually kind of lead, like leaving you out
(02:01:08):
on your own to like decipher what's going on in
these films, you know. Yeah, So that's why I started
grouping together these films that I feel managed to tap
into kind of like a level of harsh content, you know,
within the confines of like a coming of age story
(02:01:29):
that is doing something really compelling.
Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
Well said, and the coming of age part specifically, because
that across the board can be kind of broken down
in different ways. How are you like classifying coming of age?
Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
Is it.
Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
Any story about somebody under eighteen? Is it like specifically
over a period of time? Is it like, how are
you defining coming of age?
Speaker 3 (02:01:57):
I mean, definitely youths people that are young, But for instance,
a film like Train Spotting, this felt to me like
the first kind of big harsh coming of age film,
And I think the characters in this are kind of
like late teens, early twenties. Yeah, I guess Donnie Darko
(02:02:19):
could kind of fit in that. Although with Donnie Darko,
to me, there's something a bit more sci fi involved,
and there's elements that are a little too surreal, you know,
where something like Trainspotting, the coming of age is like
coming of age is like literally like growing uh, you
know what I mean? And train Spotting, the big kind
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of arc that happens is that like Renton grows up,
you know, and so yeah, that's kind of like a
big aspect of these films that I've kind of grouped
together is that like there's either at least like like
the characters have aged and sort of progressed, or there's
sort of like a comment on the lack of that,
(02:03:01):
there's a tension because of the lack of that progression,
you know what I mean. Yeah, River's Edge perfect, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03:09):
There's definitely a lot of tension in literally all of
these films. There are many, and we are obviously seeing
lots of them in Chat tonight. That immediately spring to mind,
And I am so curious because I know that you
are going to go into some deep cuts on your list,
for sure. I've got on mine probably two or three
(02:03:32):
that are perhaps a little obvious. But the way that
I approach this is because I talk about so many
things on the show every week because it is weekly.
I tried to talk about five that I haven't talked
about either ever or in a long time, and so
I wanted to be able to to highlight some of these.
So let's start. And by the way, we're not ranking these.
These are just like five of them. Is this would
(02:03:54):
be a really weird genre to rank and say like
this is the best one, because yeah, it would be
hard to compare.
Speaker 3 (02:04:01):
Yeah, I mean to me, like Trainspotting is such a
personal film, but I have come and see as a
possible one. Yeah, like, oh, thank you, come and see
to me though, is sort of like a better made film. Yeah, yeah,
that could work, although don't Deliver Us from Evil. That's
(02:04:21):
the one that's based on the story that Heavenly Creatures
I believe is also based on. Is that right? Yeah, okay,
I mean could that could definitely work. It is sort
of like a true crime story for sure. Yeah, I mean,
all these are possibilities. My dream is to one day
write a book about it, but I have no idea
how to do that. So, yeah, you were.
Speaker 2 (02:04:45):
Saying, just leading into your first pick, I tried to
not go super mainstream, but like I said, two or
three of mine are well, four of mine are pretty
mainstream movies, but I think at least three of them
these people are not immediately going to be jumping to
think of them. So that's the way that I was
going for them. So let's hear your first one.
Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
Okay. Well, I'm gonna just stick with Transing because this
was the first big film for me. And I remember
my introduction to this film when I was like, I
think in grade seven. I used to read Entertainment Weekly
for some reason. I think like my oldest sister used
to get it or something. There's a trouble section in
my there you Go, Troubled Youth. Yeah, And I remember
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reading about this new film that'd been playing all these festivals,
and it was constantly being compared to A Clockwork Orange,
which is a film that at the time when I
was like in grade seven, which would have been like
I think twelve or thirteen, I hadn't seen yet, but
it was one of those films that had kind of
been like considered like, oh my god, it's like a
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write a passage, like it's one of the most disturbing
films ever, you know. So it kind of put in
my head that this is going to be a really
terrifying film, and so when I finally watched it, I
was like, oh, it's actually not that scary, but at
the same time, there is something really provocative about it,
(02:06:13):
and there's like certain moments in it that I'd never
experienced before. But at the same time, I was still
like relating to it, And maybe that was the first
time I ever watched something that was like this harsh
but relatable at the same time. And the older I get,
the more I watch this, it reminds me of like
aspects of my youth. And the end, Like the last
(02:06:34):
time I watched it, I cried so much at the
ending when he's like walking down the street and he's
got that whole speech going, you know, because it just
made me think about like all the friends I grew
up with that all went like dark paths, you know,
like fell succumb to like drug addiction and things like that,
you know what I mean. So yeah, so this would
be the first one I would put on that.
Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
For those that haven't seen it, what is like the
harshest aspects of train spotting in your mind?
Speaker 3 (02:07:04):
That's an interesting question because a lot of people would
say the heroin usage and like the overdosing and everything
is pretty harsh and like everything that goes with that,
But I actually weirdly find begbie His violence to be
really hard to wrap your head around. I think that
we're so often like we're kind of made, especially as men,
(02:07:28):
to feel like, oh, you know, it's part of being
masculine is to be very violent and macho and everything.
But the way that that film deals with his violence
is I found like really uncomfortable. And again it reminded
me of certain friends I had where, you know, as
an adult, I realized like, no, that actually wasn't cool
that that person did that, and like that led to
(02:07:49):
more abusive behavior, you know what I mean. So for
to me, for me personally, it is like Begbie's violence
in that film.
Speaker 2 (02:07:59):
It's an interesting take. Curious with how you're speaking about that.
I'm sure you've seen it, and if not, it's okay.
How do you feel about SLC Punk? Have you seen that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:08:09):
Yeah, I've seen that many times. It's weird. It's a
kind of film to me that I find like deeply
flawed for many reasons, But there is some really powerful
moments to it. I mean, I don't know if I
can spoil it per se, but the certain thing that
happens at the end that is heartbreaking is legitimately heartbreaking,
(02:08:31):
and the message of the film about at the very end,
about like Matthew Lillard, Matthew Lillard's character, like his arc
and everything is really poignant, you know, And there's certain
to me, it's like a film that's kind of bad
at points, but by the very end of it, it
earns a lot of its messaging and it earns a
(02:08:54):
lot of its power, if that makes sense. Are you
a fan?
Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
I I've always liked slcpunk more than Train Spotting, And
it might just be because I say it might be because
I thought first and I don't know, it hit It
hit more at home for some reason. And I guess
one of the the main reasons could be is because
I've lived a fairly vanilla life, like I've never done
(02:09:21):
any drugs. I've never been drunk in my life. I've
never seen spread nothing. I mean, I've drank many times,
but I've never been drunk. And I I don't know
something about the the nature of a lot of the
drug scenes in Train Spotting, Like it's meant to be
(02:09:41):
off putting, but it's off putting in a way that
is a little less relatable for me, potentially because I've
been to Vanilla and SLC Punk. It's got just more
of like a punk vibe to it. And that was
the scene that I was in, obviously, and so yeah,
that's definitely a big thing.
Speaker 3 (02:10:00):
Cool. I can appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
Yeah, I do need to see Train Spotting again. I've
not seen the four K. It's been a while since
I've seen Train Spotting.
Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
That's great. Yeah, I think you might like it more
now and maybe even just maybe after our conversation even
you know, I would imagine yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:10:18):
Yeah, all right. My first pick is a movie that
I love and I've not talked about this on here
since like the first year of the show. So I'm
so so glad that I got an opportunity to bring
this up again because so many people still have not
seen it somehow. Twenty seventeen's Mexican horror film Tigers Are
Not Afraid.
Speaker 3 (02:10:37):
Oh I haven't seen that. I heard.
Speaker 2 (02:10:40):
Really this is amazing. It is directed by Isa Lopez,
this incredible female director that made a story about a
essentially a group of children trying to survive in the
cartel overran gangland of Mexico. And what's amazing is that
it is crafted in a way to be a fairy
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tale of sorts in like this coming of age horror
film bottle surrounding this fairy tale, and this movie is surreal,
it's unique. It is filmed in a way that is
visually dark, but also the story itself quite dark. I mean,
how do you talk about death and the cartels and
(02:11:23):
not be dark? Obviously, but it's an interesting way to
see different age brackets of children and how they make choices,
how they rely on each other, how they grow from there.
And then the way that there are literal surreal elements
dropped into the film that are not actually there. And
(02:11:43):
so try not to spoil much of this film because
I know many still have not seen this, but it
is a modern horror masterpiece, I would say, and it
is underseen, it is overlooked, it is not really discussed.
And then we obviously have this trope in the US
when we're covering things to not cover internet films as much.
And Shudder specifically was the home for this film. This
(02:12:05):
was like one of the first either Shutter Originals or
Shutter Presents or whatever where they were like the home
for this film. And now they're putting out this ten
film box set next month that this film I feel
like should have been in that box set, but they're
leaning much more recent in the box set. Okay, this
movie deserves to be more people's hands. If you've never
(02:12:27):
seen it, please seek it out. It is beautiful. It
is harrowing in this really adult way for a story
genuinely about like actual children, not even like this isn't
like sixteen year olds. We're talking like chill like kids. Kids. Yeah,
this is a really great way to show again because
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it's like a group of kids. You get so many
different ages that the reactions are different, the way that
they're emotionally respondible, and it's feel how Harold is.
Speaker 3 (02:13:03):
Wow, sounds amazing. Is it still on shutter? Just dream?
Speaker 2 (02:13:07):
I don't have shutter anymore, so I'm not sure. Yeah,
I think it is. If not, there was a disc release,
I'm not even sure if that's still in print because
it's this movie is eight years old now, which is
wild considering how early it was. A lot cutting out.
So while you go talk about your second title, I'm
gonna I'm gonna reconnect my microphone.
Speaker 3 (02:13:27):
Okay, next up, So this is a lesser known film,
but this is an early Paul Verhoven film called Spetters,
which I believe translates to hunks in English. Now, this film,
this is so up my alley and so unique. I
(02:13:51):
think I originally was describing this to friends as if
you're familiar with Degrassi the original, like the Earth, the
Canadian TV show, they had a TV movie called School's
Out which kind of capped off the whole original series,
so it was like a TV movie that was surprisingly
(02:14:12):
really upset. Bob Tigers is awesome. Thank you, Krinn.
Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
You know, we're getting a comment saying it's oh, it
doesn't look like it is still on shutter, and then
Corin says, it is still on shutter. Okay, well I.
Speaker 3 (02:14:26):
Have Canadian shutters, so maybe it's on one or the other.
Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
Is that spelled with an a? Then shutter a? Never
mind shatter shutters no spelled with an a. E h oh,
that was a terrible joke.
Speaker 3 (02:14:50):
You get it, you get it. Time to reconnect your
microphone man anyway, anyway, sorry, Yeah, so this I was
trying to elude compare this two Schools Out, but basically
it feels are initially like a bubbly teen sex comedy.
(02:15:13):
It kind of has that presentation and feel as it
follows these two should a you okay? Not sure? Yeah,
I can check after this dream thank you though corint
oh okay, supposed to include shutter that is true? Yeah. Anyways, yeah,
so this follows three friends. Oh awesome. Three friends that
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are motocross racers, motocross enthusiasts. One of them is like
a star athlete, one of them is sort of like
a hanger on, and one of them is a mechanic.
They go around with their girlfriends going out disco dancing,
so it's the setup is like very upbeat, fun teen
but things start happening that are very kind of upsetting
(02:15:57):
and dark. One of the initial scenes is actually like
a gay bashing hate crime, where the whole group of
them attacked these two gay guys. And I think that
there was a lot of controversy about this film because
of these moments, but it really just takes you to
be kind of not a cheap liver. I got this
(02:16:18):
for thirty bucks, so I did go out of print.
I got this a few years ago during the pandemic. Anyways. Yeah, yeah,
so there's I think that there was a lot of
controversy about this film, and I think that it helps
to go into it knowing that it is Paul Virhoven.
(02:16:38):
He does like to kind of throw these curveballs at you,
especially when it comes to sexual assault. There's a storyline
in this that involves that that is really hard to
kind of wrap your head around. But basically the film
just follows these three friends as they're coming of age,
they're growing up, and these really horrible things are hap
(02:17:00):
happening to them, and they're kind of like coming to
terms with how life is horrible and you must go on.
And it's almost like it's almost like all these terrible
things could happen in reality, but because it's condensed down
to the length of a film, that it seems like
the film is really like hyper violent, melodramatic. It's almost
(02:17:22):
like these people are being subjected to a film in
a way, you know. But you start to look back at,
like say, your own personal experiences in life, and it
is condensed down into this form of like a narrative
or a spectacle even of these like traumatic moments that
you yourself personally might have experienced, do you know what I mean?
Like that's kind of how you shape memories. And I
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think that that's kind of what's been partly forming my
my idea of like grouping these films together, is this
idea of like, well, when I do look back at
my past experiences, especially the dramatic ones, I do kind
of form them into these stories in a way, into
these like really intense moments that do feel probably more
cinematic in my mind, even though I don't fully understand
(02:18:05):
why they happened or what I can take away from them,
which oddly enough, is kind of like a film like Spetters,
where you just watch these weird strands happen, these weird
narrative strands for all these three these characters, and how
it seems like they should just be going about their
life dealing with normal problems, but really really horrible, upsetting,
depressing things happen instead. It is Paul Verhoven, So if
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you like his other films, like maybe less so his
Hollywood films, to be fair, is more like this is
maybe a little bit more on the camp of like
Starshipt Troopers, of being almost like satire in a way,
but again way more disturbing and upsetting. But yeah, it's
super fun. It has Ruker Howard in it. Yeah, I
really love this movie. It blew me Away, highly recommends Betters.
Speaker 2 (02:18:53):
I haven't meaning watched that for years. Yes, it has
been out of print in the US for a long time.
If you were a region for and I'm not sure
the disc itself might be region free. There is a
UK release that looks to be like eighteen pounds and
that's it online and you can probably find that like
rare waves are somewhere. Thanks Sibner for looking that up.
(02:19:14):
I need to check this one out. Yeah, I've been
meaning to for ages.
Speaker 3 (02:19:17):
What's your thoughts on Paul Vererhoven? Are you a fan?
Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
I love his stuff, but I've only ever been able
really to see because of access the Hollywood stuff. I've
never really dove into any of the earlier stuff, which
I need to. But I mean Starship Troopers is one
I saw way too young and loved and didn't understand,
and then saw it later I went, oh, this is
(02:19:41):
a different movie than I thought, and it's still amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:19:43):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean RoboCop is one that every time
I watch it, I've just like, Okay, every time I
watch it, I get more out of it. It seems
to kind of like slightly shape shift, you know, and
become less of this like sci fi blockbuster. Yeah, it
kind of does. You're right, there's a few different covers
(02:20:05):
of this. Unfortunately it's not a reversible one. But this
isn't my favorite post start for sure. It definitely does
look like that. That's not really the vibe of the film, though, So.
Speaker 2 (02:20:16):
Yeah, good call on this one. So my next one,
this one is probably the most mainstream possible answer for this.
But I've not talked about this movie in a long time,
and it's kind of timely that this week literally based
on what is coming out in theaters this weekend. So
nineteen eighty six was a year right in the middle
(02:20:37):
of a legendary run of films and Rob Reiners stand
by Me is going on. Oh okay, in infamy here,
I mean, we've got in order. This is spinal tap,
almost perfection, the sure Thing, very good, stand by Me,
perfect Movie, Princess Bride, perfect movie, When Harry met Sally,
perfect movie, Misery, perfect movie, a few good men, a
(02:20:58):
few good scenes. Pretty good. But that is a legendary
run for a director that I don't think will likely
ever be topped. That is so many classics from so
many different genres in such a short period of time
that is ridiculously perfect. But stand By Me is the
only one in that group that actually fits this criteria,
(02:21:20):
of course, but it's like the definition of the harsh
coming of age film. This is a group of four
boys that are like very quickly acquainted and very close
and a similar I was kidding, I was just making
a pun on the title. A few good Men is amazing.
I'm not doubting you. It was just funny. So stand
(02:21:41):
By Me is about these four boys going to look
for a dead body and the journey that it takes
them to get there, and along the way they're like
cussing for the first time and fighting and like actually
coming of age before your eyes in a way, like
they are genuinely turning from like borderline adolescents to like, oh, oh,
suddenly we're fucking adults. We just got woke up by
(02:22:03):
what we just found. And of course this isn't really
a spoiler for a forty year old movie, but they
found they found the body, and that in itself is
like the the climax that you almost don't really expect
for this movie, because you're almost at the point of
like they're just gonna be a journey to not find something,
and it's gonna be about the story. But no, like
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they're there, they're going there and they actually find this,
and I think that is funny enough. What actually makes
this movie great is it's it kind of like subverts
expectations by giving you what you should expect based on
the premise of the story, but you don't really expect
the story to go out the way that it does.
And I don't know it is. It's not really like
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scary or harrowing. It is just the perfect semblance of
that line between child and teenager. And it's written so
perfectly and done with such like a morbid topic, a
morbid small town feel of there's somebody missing and we're
going to look for him. That's not a child thing
(02:23:07):
to do. That's something that you do when you're older
and fucking around, and turns into such a bigger, actual
story about like, oh no, death is real and we're
growing up before our eyes. So yeah, I haven't talked
about sam by mean a long time. It is genuinely
a perfect movie.
Speaker 3 (02:23:25):
Yeah, it's great. That's that scene where they find the
dead body is so chilling. I remember as a kid.
It really creeped the hell out of me. And that's
such a good way of putting it. Putting it how
like when you watch the film, you're not really expecting
that that kind of like tonal switch in a way,
But isn't that kind of how it would happen, And
(02:23:48):
like isn't that kind of how it happens for them
as well? Which is kind of I don't know. I
love that kind of filmmaking where it's like, like the
tone actually matches so perfectly with the narrative and it
makes the audience feel like they're kind of like part
of that journey as well, tonally speaking as well as
story wise, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I
don't know, but yeah, no, that's a great movie for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:24:10):
Probably should say I don't know why I didn't. But
the four boys that we see along this legendary cast,
Will Wheaton, River Phoenix, Corey Feldman, Jerry O'Connell perfect, genuinely perfect,
Keeper Sutherlands also in this just incredible casting. They are
immediately like the most believable cast of young kids. Yeah,
everybody fits their role perfectly. Will Wheaten a star literally
(02:24:33):
only because of this movie essentially, Yeah, star Trek I
mean later, yes, it established him.
Speaker 3 (02:24:41):
Yeah yeah, ri Ip River Phoenix too, Like I never
really I never really got to appreciate him until I
was an adult and then finally seeing like a lot
of his big films and just like wow, an incredible actor.
Yeah yeah, very good point. Yeah yeah. Okay, So this
is probably I don't even know if this is like
(02:25:03):
the most obscure one I have, but this one is
the one I've have actually written an article about and
definitely got my mind working in terms of like how
to sort of group all of these together. But do
you know Typhoon Club?
Speaker 2 (02:25:19):
I do know Typhoon Club.
Speaker 3 (02:25:21):
Have you watched it?
Speaker 2 (02:25:22):
I have not watched it? Okay too.
Speaker 3 (02:25:24):
It is one of the most unique films you will
ever see. I mean the way it's marketed look at like,
what kind of film do you think this is? Based
on this cover? Like it looks like even this photo
on the back right, it's like it's gonna be this happy,
cheery film about school kids, right, But it is instead
(02:25:49):
this like almost meditative film filled with these really random,
almost like disconnected, disconnected moments of like really intense like violence.
There's some quite a few, like sexual assault, kind of scenes,
(02:26:10):
not like it's hard explained, but anyways, yet very traumatic moments,
and yet the film is very languid, languid lee paced.
Is that the right word meditative? Yeah, the pace is
very meditative. It's so beautifully shot, extremely long takes, And
this was the first film I realized like, wow, these
kind of films like it kind of just like hit
(02:26:32):
you over the head with something really traumatic and then
they don't explain it at all. The characters involved don't
really seem to react to these moments and any kind
of way that you think someone should within a narrative.
I think we're so used to sitting as armchair critics
and going, well, why did the person do what they
were supposed to do in this moment here, when really,
(02:26:54):
in actual life, people rarely act how you're supposed to,
and you can almost not really predict how people are
going to act. And I think this film really nails
on the head. Well. At the same time, you can
tell that that approach is just because I think they
were sort of experimenting with these ideas and sort of themes.
You know, it has a very existential feel to it. Yeah,
(02:27:17):
and it just you know, as I was talking earlier
about how these films you can see sort of like
a coming of age of progression. With this one, it's
almost like it doesn't feel like these kids come of age.
It feels almost like these kids are trying to savor
their last moments of innocence in a way, and there's
certain moments that kind of accentuate that. But I can't
(02:27:39):
really get into it without really kind of spoiling it,
even though it's not really a super spoiler you kind
of film. But anyways, yeah, it's like this was I
think the first film I saw by Shinji some who
has become like one of my recent favorites, and all
of his films are just so beautifully shot with these
incredibly gorgeous long takes. I've never seen anything like this
(02:28:01):
where yeah, it's just a perfect amount of like dynamic
sort of cinematography, incredible staging. It just nails that. And
uh yeah, this is just like such a remarkable film,
Like I can't recommend it enough.
Speaker 2 (02:28:17):
That is Cinema Guild that did the four K, right.
Speaker 3 (02:28:20):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I'm not really too familiar with them,
to tell you the truth.
Speaker 2 (02:28:25):
Not a company that puts out a lot, but I've
only ever heard great things about this movie. Certainly need
to watch it for sure. So my next one is
the other one that I would say is like extremely
mainstream on this list, And I've got one more that's
sort of mainstream, but this extremely mainstream one. I am
(02:28:46):
picking this because this is such a bright film that
when you actually think about it for longer than half
a second, it's one of the darkest films out there.
And I I adore this movie and always have and
adore the cast. So I had to talk about nineteen
eighty eight's Heathers Ooh Love Heather, starring why On Writer,
(02:29:10):
Christian Slater Shannon Doherty. Why Not Writer is like the
the everyman character who is sort of like trying to
fit in with the popular girls, who are of course
all named Heather, and she falls in line with the
character named j D, which is Christian Slater, who essentially
starts her on a path of how do you even
(02:29:31):
explain this, like sociopathy essentially, I mean nihilism. Yeah, take
you take Christian Slater's overall vibe at the time in
like pump up the volume and add in the just
dire like hatred for everything and suddenly. It is a
(02:29:52):
movie of just expanding, expanding your mind into situations that
get exceedingly insane and grotesque and everything. Heather's is one
of those movies that you watch and then you realize
afterwards that it was essentially a satire like everything surrounding
(02:30:12):
popularity in high school and surrounding the cool kids and
that sort of like takedown of the elites and everything
that a lot of these movies have lampooned over the years,
but this one does it in such a unique way.
And the ending of this movie, if you've not seen it,
I don't really want to spoil it, but it kind
of is essential to spoil it in the discussion, So
(02:30:35):
I just want to say that there's a like insanely
violent act that happens that if you're watching this for
the first time, you're not expecting and it's not like
gore Field or anything like that, but when you realize, no,
they're actually going there in this like teenage dramatic comedy,
and they show you what he's doing to climax this film.
(02:30:59):
It's it's sort of a part of the pun but
mind blowing, and it's wild that they would choose to
just like blatantly display that. And it's truly because it's
a takedown of the genre, and because it's because it's
high schoolers literally coming of age to where they realize
this is all just sort of bullshit. We're all just
(02:31:20):
like faking who we are. This is all a facade.
All of this is just a waste of time. We're
gonna be entirely different people in five years. All of
that to say, man, this movie is legendary. Shannon Door
is great. She never gets enough praise for this film,
but as the the leader of the Heathers clan essentially
(02:31:43):
she is just really great. But this made wine Own
a writer, incredibly amazing. Christian Slater is infectious in this.
All of this to say, yeah, this movie nihilistic, beyond belief,
but a truly like watch somehow, and then at the
end you're like, oh wait, this is kind of chilling
(02:32:04):
at the same time too, on that note, quite timely
to watch in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:32:11):
So I feel like I read about that one how
it was inspired by John.
Speaker 2 (02:32:17):
Waters a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:32:19):
Yes, yeah, okay, okay, because I feel like that's a
good way of maybe getting people ready for the tone
of it. Yep, you know, because it is. It is
very like and I love this where it's I think
I like threw around the term like bubblegum angst or something,
you know, like it's like I love that mix of
(02:32:39):
like almost like a campiness but then with a nihilism,
you know, and I mean you could take it to
real extremes. Is like something like I don't know if
you're familiar with Savage Streets. Oh yeah, yeah, Linda, Yeah,
so just like to me, that's like of such a
far stream of it, you know, but I love that
kind of thing. I find it really surreal and chilling,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:32:59):
Yeah, this is this is a favorite of mine. I
go back to this semi regularly and genuinely deserves a
watch from anybody that's never seen it. It is depressing
and yet gleeful in the way that they portray some
of this. It's such a uniquely mad film that I
hate to use this phrase because, uh, because I know
(02:33:20):
that Simmonar just said it, but it's overused by like
bigots and idiots. This movie could not be made this
way today, like it genuinely it would have a completely
different feeling and because of that, like it would lose
its power in one way, and it wouldn't even feel
like satire. It would feel like, oh shit, like this
is just a really out there person in high school
(02:33:43):
and we need to be careful about it.
Speaker 3 (02:33:44):
So yeah, well, okay, that kind of makes me think
of something I was reading the other day that, you know,
the director Kyoshi Kurasawa, he did like hearing something he
was saying about how he used to make a lot
of fils about the end of the world, but now
he doesn't really like doing that anymore because it feels
(02:34:05):
too real. And I think that kind of plays into
what we're talking about of like how uh oh, thank you,
how you couldn't make a film like that anymore because
things are just so different now politically, you know. It's
like people don't get the same joys they get out
of out of like, well, what happens if we set
this up with this and blow this up here a
(02:34:27):
guild that person. I think now the people that are
doing that are like, no, we want to go really
far with it, do you know what I mean? It's
hard to find that kind of balance of tones stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:34:38):
Yeah, And that's I think that's one of the like
the Majestic properties of this movie is that it is
literally balanced in a way that it Again, it sounds
weird to say, but it's like a fun, happy, go
lucky movie that is dark beyond belief when you actually
think about it, more than surface level in any way.
Speaker 3 (02:34:57):
Sure, Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I gotta watch that one again.
I've like, that's what I've seen since I was a kid,
and I got the Blu ray during like one of
the arrow sales. Yeah, so I think those Aero sales
during the pandemic was like, alright, here we go because
I have a multi regional player, right, so yeah, it's deadly.
Speaker 2 (02:35:20):
All right, sir? Your fourth pick?
Speaker 3 (02:35:22):
Well, I can't remember if this is a region B.
I feel like, oh no, it's multi region. Okay, So
this I got really into this director this past year
and read his uh one of his biography recently because
he died fairly young. But Alan Clark's scum nice. Yeah
have you seen this one a while ago?
Speaker 2 (02:35:42):
But yeah I did.
Speaker 3 (02:35:43):
Okay, So this was I think the first one I
watched with Alan Clark was Elephant, funy enough, and then
I started going because a bunch of his films were
on or they're still on YouTube. And like pretty decent quality.
And then I watched this and then I picked it up.
I still haven't watch the TV version of it. But
this is a great coming up, harsh coming of age film,
(02:36:06):
okay in that I think what this film does really
well because it takes place in a I believe it's
a borstal, which is sort of like a prison in
between a juvenile delinquency a juvenile detention center and a prison.
So it's like these boys that are late teens around there,
(02:36:31):
and so there's a lot of violence and there's it
feels like almost like gang violence in a way, like
people kind of like trying to be one up each
other and you know, gain power and things like that.
And it's really exciting to watch in that sense, but
it gets so grim as it goes, and by the
end of it you kind of realize like it's sort
(02:36:53):
of like it's sort of say, okay, okay, how do
I put this? A lot of crime I think happens
because of the circumstances that are pushed onto people by
the higher ups, do you know what I mean, Like
the governments whatever, Like people are in different situations that
push them towards violence. Whatever it is. And this is
(02:37:14):
kind of a microcosm of that in a sense that
because of the way that these boys are treated, they
don't initially act out against the higher ups, they act
out on each other, you know, And it takes the
whole film for them to kind of maybe realize that,
or more for like the story to realize that. And
that's something I really loved about it. It's sort of
(02:37:36):
more of a like a political leaning, harshcoming of age
film because of that. And yeah, as I said, like
I haven't watched the TV version yet, but from what
I was reading in the biography on Alan Clark, the
TV version actually leans more into the like homosexuality, I
guess would be the best way to put it, of
(02:37:57):
like how they Ray Winston's character forces other boys to
be like his lovers, you know, and things like that
that comes up a little bit in this, and I
find that really fascinating that the TV version that initially
came out was more interested in that aspect of this
like microcosm kind of world. But yeah, with that being said,
(02:38:21):
like this is such a harsh film, it's really exciting.
Great acting. I mean, Alan Clark, all of his films,
the acting is always insanely good. And I can't recommend
his films enough. There are a lot of them are
on YouTube too if you and most of them are
pretty short because they're a TV films, so they're usually
around like an hour twenty or less. Yeah, if you're
(02:38:46):
into like Mike Lee kind of stuff, but wish that
it was more violent, Alan Clark scum, all of his
stuff is great for that.
Speaker 2 (02:39:00):
Good release. Eighty eight Films just released this on four
K like two months ago.
Speaker 3 (02:39:04):
I know, I got it, you know, Okay, Like, as
a rule, do you always upgrade? No? No, no do
because and this is one of the hot takes that
I was maybe. I was like, I might have to
drop this because I do. I was initially like, I
want to upgrade. I want to like get the four
k's of all the movies I love to tell you
(02:39:26):
the truth. There's the two that made me go, I
don't know if I need to do this, The thing
in Poltergeist.
Speaker 2 (02:39:34):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:39:35):
When I got those four k's and I threw them on,
I was like, I don't really see much of a difference.
I don't know if this is necessary now. Suspiria Santa Sandre,
King of New York like those ones. Yeah, those fucking
blew my face off.
Speaker 2 (02:39:55):
I would say the thing is a pretty great looking
four K.
Speaker 3 (02:39:58):
I I won't have it set up right, I don't know, pull.
Speaker 2 (02:40:01):
To your guys a little less so, but it's still
a pretty good four K.
Speaker 3 (02:40:04):
Did you did you have the Blu ray though before it? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:40:08):
I mean I've owned the thing on like nine different formats.
Speaker 3 (02:40:10):
Oh my bad, my bad.
Speaker 2 (02:40:13):
That was not meant to but it.
Speaker 3 (02:40:15):
Just what you said. Do you know who you're talking to, sir?
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:40:21):
No, that was more of like, it's the thing, come on,
like everybody has the thing, so yeah, it's It's one
of those movies that I've watched so many times, but
the first time seeing on four K, it did feel
like a wow, this actually does feel different for me at.
Speaker 3 (02:40:34):
Least really Okay, maybe I don't have my TV setup right.
I actually, when I got the TV, I did the
like you know, Google and see oh what. I got
to adjust the colors here and there. I watched a
movie on I was like nah, man, and I went
in and I boosted all the colors. I was like,
I got a new TV. I want to make this
(02:40:55):
look like baom, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:40:58):
The best thing to do, and it's it's pricey, but
like proper calibration on a good TV is mind blowing.
It changes it a lot. Like to get it professionally calibrated.
Speaker 3 (02:41:09):
Can you get the person to come and then be like, hey,
but can you make this look like a mate like
more crazy, you.
Speaker 2 (02:41:16):
Know, like I wanted to plus one.
Speaker 3 (02:41:20):
Plus no, like like I don't want anything muted. I
want all the colors and the lights to bop, even
if the film was supposed to be drab, I don't want.
Speaker 2 (02:41:30):
That good good. Yeah, I'm you've walked that back. Okay,
my number two? This is one the number two or
the fourth, one and fourth? Yeah, not ranking, sorry, no, no, but.
Speaker 3 (02:41:45):
Your fourth the fourth film in your order? Yeah, yes,
still number two.
Speaker 2 (02:41:51):
If we were ranking, it would have been like the second.
Never mind. Okay, this is one that has not been
released on four K that I would upgrade in a
heartbeat because of how many dark scenes are in this movie.
I am gonna go on a limb and say, most
people in the chat have probably heard of this, but
I still think this is a very underseen film. And
that is two thousand and eight's let the right one
(02:42:11):
in ooh, this is maybe hot take. This is my
favorite vampire movie of all time. I think this is
a such a unique storyline telling like this coming of
age romantic drama between essentially what is a child and
a very old person. And you don't realize that because
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of what's on screen, but the constant horror around these scenes,
all like blanketed against the white snow of Sweden, is
just perfection in cinema. I mean, there are so many
scenes in this movie that you could look at and say, like,
just this one scene is harsh coming of age in itself,
(02:42:56):
but this entire story of anguish and hope that is
there and then just completely lost when she starts pulling
away from Oscar is painful. You've now invested so much
into these two main characters that the fact that they
are just so inherently different that they can't do anything
to be together, it hurts. It genuinely hurts. And then
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you get scenes like the swimming pool scene, which everybody
knows as like one of the best scenes in this film,
and it's it's so like empathetic at its root and
yet like so violent in what it actually is. It's
just beautiful filmmaking and it's telling a story in a
way that you care about everyone except for like the
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bullies that you're not supposed to of course, but you
care about them and can feel every emotion through the
way that they're speaking about these things, through the way
that the father figure is going out to feed essentially
for our second main character. And watching the growth of
the characters throughout this film is like the perfect encapsulation
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of this harsh coming of age. This is one of
the first ones that I thought of because it's just
it's like beauty through bloodshed in a couple different ways.
And every time I watch this, I fall in love again.
And I purposefully have not watched it in like two
years so that I could see it again with like
just fresh almost like yearning eyes for this story because
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it's so unique. It's not a story that we get often.
It's not like a true take on the Nose Frat
two tale or anything like that. It is just this
beautiful attempt at young love in a way, and then
you see Oscar grow from like this immense hope to
feeling everything ripped away, and as somebody that's coming of age,
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you kind of have to go through that feeling a
few times and understand true empathy because you've lived it,
You've had actual experiences, and now, oh, I know not
to be a dick to other people, or I know
to be careful in real mantic relationships or whatever have
you that you're trying to learn. This is great. I
do want to give a shout out. I don't think
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it's bad at all. The US remake for this is
quite good. Let Me In, starring Chloe Grace Moretz is
It's not quite as powerful as the original, which most
of the US remakes of foreign horror from the last
twenty years have never really captured much of that, but
Let Me In is quite close. It is a very
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good story of this. I think that having the father
figure b who is portraying that father figure in that movie,
is a very good choice. It's just really well made
because the source material is astonishing, and as long as
you're even remotely as long as you're remotely faithful to that,
it's going to be a great movie. But it's never
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going to be let The right one in this movie
is just perfection.
Speaker 3 (02:45:53):
Yeah. I saw that one maybe ten years ago. I
think I got like a DVD of it on sale
or something. Or like and you know those like horror
packs where they just throw three random movies together. So
I think it was like let the ray one in
Sick Nurses and Time Crimes like package together Time Crimes. Yeah,
Time Crimes is great too. I haven't I haven't watched
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any of those since I got it, but uh, yeah,
I should revisit that. I remember it being, as you said,
really powerful and very haunting and unique too. I think
that's something I really love when you can come across
a horror film that is just like why, like this
doesn't follow an expected formula or anything. And I do
think that happens more so with horror outside of North America.
Speaker 2 (02:46:39):
Yeah, and especially like not to not to like downplay
the fact that it's another like exorbitantly white country, but
we an'll have turtish films that break through a lot
and to get a good yeah film is nice. Is
nice to see and it's it's a completely different backdrop.
I mean, as I'm talking about the bloodshed and the snow,
Sweden is covered in snow so much of the year
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that you can portray something that is it's a little
easier for them to film. But also it's not the
same type of like snowfall that the US gets. And
so it's again like opening your mind to a completely
different culture because all of the scenes that they shoot
in this like Horseshoe apartment complex area that are on
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this playground, and you see, you see this playground but
surrounded by so much snow that everywhere you go it
is loud to walk, you can see nothing the ground anywhere.
It's just a completely different vibe. And so it changes
everything because the whole movie feels cold, the entire thing.
Speaker 3 (02:47:42):
True. True, it almost makes you wonder if it kind
of does hit different if you are from Sweden versus
watching it in you know, the States or somewhere warm
for most of the year, you know, watch Interesting in Sydney.
Yeah yeah, or I don't know, Mexico or something. I'm
sure it does, but I kind of love that that,
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like it kind of can transform outside of its region,
you know. Yeah, Okay, I'm not really sure I have to.
I've grabbed two. I was like, I don't know which
one to pick, but maybe I can talk about them both.
Really cool, okay, because for one like Come and See
is like one of the best movies ever made of
all times, the point where what's that?
Speaker 2 (02:48:24):
It's all right, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (02:48:32):
Are you one of those I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:48:34):
Just messing with you. If we were just in that
mood tonight? It was fun.
Speaker 3 (02:48:39):
This is this is my face right now? I get it.
I mean, this was a blind by from Criterion because
I heard it was so good, and when they finally
put it on Blu Ray, I was like, Okay, I'm
sure gonna love it. I threw it on Change my Life.
I came of age watching it, So I might say,
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I mean, the story is that the main actor, which
was the young boy, the main character, was like put
through such hell, you know, making this set. It's like, hey,
age while doing it. But he seems pretty happy in
interviews now, so I'm I mean, you know, he survived.
It's all good. Yeah, I just I honestly, I don't
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even know really what to say about this one other
than it is like the like masterpiece of harsh Coming
of age cinema, and it says so much about war
and violence and uh yeah, just life. It's just an
amazing film. But I do want to highlight this, which
(02:49:44):
I think is like undersun Undersung from uh sever in
this release. Again, it was a blind by and it
blew my mind. And it's actually such a fascinating collection.
The Kinky Collection highly recommend this if fits still out.
So you essentially get in this collection Nava Heroes, El Pico,
(02:50:05):
and Lpico two, and it's really fascinating, Like there's documentaries
on here that talk about it. How like the main
character is played by this actor who was actually like
a struggling heroin addict yet transitioning from chad to prisonly.
Yeah yeah, I think are we are we talking about
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the same thing.
Speaker 2 (02:50:31):
Of age, Like he's forced to be an adult immediately in.
Speaker 3 (02:50:33):
That Okay, yeah, yeah, totally yeah. So yeah, this is
really fascinating. So you with Nava Heroes you get kind
of a more like upbeat, fun exploitation film in a way,
and then with Lpico one you get a very serious
like heroin drama, and Alpico two you kind of get
(02:50:55):
almost like a mixture of both films of like the
fun exploitation romp and the serious heroin drama. They managed
to like marry both those films really well. I'd say
all three films are excellent though, and it's just amazing
learning the backstory about how like Navajos, for instance, is
based on an actual criminal who became a celebrity, And
(02:51:16):
is it a spoiler to say if it's based on
the true story.
Speaker 2 (02:51:21):
No, I don't think so nice because that's like the
whole point of this genre kind of.
Speaker 3 (02:51:27):
Yeah, I mean it's like, yeah, I don't know. I
still feel weird about saying it because I mean, no
one knows who the Yeah. Anyways, I mean it's a
harshcoming of age films, so bad things, really bad things happen.
But yeah, with Navahares, you definitely see the loss of innocence,
and I think it's that one. It's more about like
mortality in a way, like these kids think they're invincible
(02:51:50):
and then when they start dying off, they're like, wait
a second, you know, And prior to that they were
able to like rob anyone. And yeah, Lpico went into
have more he believe to do with heroin use. But
as I was saying, the main actor this guy here
was actually a heroin addict in real life, and I
believe the director Loi de la Iglesias was also heroin addict.
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From what I remember saying in the documentary was that
they were lovers and I think one I think he died.
This actor in la Iglesias is his apartment. Yeah, so
he I think he got out of prison, went to
his apartment. ALOI wasn't there, and in the span of
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a few days ended up overdosing on heroin. That's real life.
That's not a spoiler. Okay, sorry, yeah, great said this
was a total blind by as well. I just man,
the pandemic was rough, right, guys remember those days? Yeah.
I just remember coming home from work one day and
(02:52:56):
being so bummed that I just blind bought the whole
bundle that time. And it was excellent stuff too. I
was like really happy with this, and just a reminder
sometimes you gotta take a chance, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:53:10):
I have liked everything I've seen from Alloyd de la Glacier.
He is a really great director.
Speaker 3 (02:53:16):
Yeah, I mean I've seen quite a few things I
haven't seen. There's okay, wait, Mondo Micabrea is releasing one
that sounded really cool. That's like sounded like funny Games esque. Perhaps, Yeah,
that one was that was on my radar. I was like,
so so on Murder in a Blue World. I think
(02:53:40):
it was what it's called so so on that didn't
really like take, you know, go the distance from me
and scream scream heard on the street.
Speaker 2 (02:53:51):
Or something, scream in the streets.
Speaker 3 (02:53:53):
Yeah, yeah, that was okay too, you know, but I
love Cannibal Man and I loved the Kinky Collection. The
Cannibal Man would actually go great in like a good
homo erotic like horror film set, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:54:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:54:12):
Is that sort of like about that too? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:54:15):
The Mondo Micaber release is Forbidden Game of Love.
Speaker 3 (02:54:19):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I might have to grab that
one standard at some point.
Speaker 2 (02:54:26):
Sounds so Deyla Iglacia's Uranium Dream set from Alternate Innocence
is great.
Speaker 3 (02:54:32):
Oh what's in that that one?
Speaker 5 (02:54:36):
Let me pull up on the other ten Urum, I
am typing it in wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:54:49):
Two homosexual films that we get, Uh, what are the
titles Hidden Pleasures and Confessions of a Congressman.
Speaker 3 (02:54:59):
Okay, So then someone else there was another one that
they put out that sounded kind of like that, but
I forget. It's like Pals or something.
Speaker 2 (02:55:06):
Pals. Yeah, that came out from Utopia or Yellowville. I
think Throsian.
Speaker 3 (02:55:11):
Okay, is that good?
Speaker 2 (02:55:13):
That one I've not watched yet, or maybe I did
watch them. Because I think that was on the Criterion Channel.
Speaker 3 (02:55:20):
Oh shit, Oh yeah, they had a collection on there
not too long ago. I think of his films, yeah yeah,
I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55:28):
He's got a lot of releases over the last few years,
and it's it's been truly nice to see because he
does just great stuff. Great.
Speaker 3 (02:55:37):
Yeah, just a really interesting character. Like I'd love to
see a full documentary on him. The documentaries that come
with the Kinky Collection are like, you know, like a
half hour long, so they can't really dive too deep
into it. But yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (02:55:55):
Thanks Ronnie. All Right, So my last one to like
the average filmgoer. I don't think this one is mainstream, however,
just like Let the Right One In. I'm betting that
most people in here have seeing this. But this is
not a movie I talked about all that often. This
is the film that I think of when I think
of Harsh Coming of Age, because it is similar to
(02:56:18):
Let the Right One In. It's about like forlorn love
in a way, but also just realizing that people are
different and ideologies and family can truly shape the overall experience,
even when you live across the street from people. And
so I had to talk about nineteen ninety nine's obviously
(02:56:40):
if you're gonna figure that out, then the virgin suicides
by so vehicles.
Speaker 3 (02:56:43):
Oh I was thinking that when you said that, Yeah,
nineteen ninety nine. Oh man, that's a great movie.
Speaker 2 (02:56:49):
Yeah. So this movie, it's about a group of boys
that fall in love with a group of sisters in
another house, and it's they're all just these like pitch perfect, beautiful,
luxurious white women with long blond hair, and they're all
raised to be like tradwife type of background, more like
(02:57:10):
religious leaning household, and them trying to approach them to
see what we can, you know, try to establish any
form of a relationship before it gets into like a
romantic relationship and seeing the relationship's form. And obviously it's
five sisters and five different dudes, so they're not all
at the same age levels, kind of like I talked
(02:57:30):
about earlier with Tigers Are Not Afraid. You get to
see like the awkward, very young sort of interactions with
the older like we're about to be full blown adults,
interactions all mixed in because they're different ages across the
spectrum here. But this movie boils over into a climax
that truly lives up to the name of the film,
(02:57:51):
and it is such a especially looking back in twenty
twenty five, a dark imagining about how super conservative traditional
religion can take somebody and melt their brain in ways
that can change people's lives and the way that that
(02:58:12):
affects those around them. I mean, this is a narrated
story of somebody. He's I think he's like forty forty
one when he's telling this story, looking back on how
his life was affected by what happened when he was younger,
and watching this for the first time. I don't remember
how young I was, but I was probably I don't know,
twenty three, twenty four. I certainly didn't see it anywhere
(02:58:35):
near ninety nine. I'm too young for that. But watching
it later, having just walked away from religion and starting
to find myself, this was like a oh fuck type
of movie to watch and seeing so many of these
pieces of dialogue, but also like the way that these
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people acted be things that I had seen before in
friends family. Being raised in a situation that felt this
conservative and not conservative in the political sense, but conservative
in the traditions and religious sense, is such a mind
opening experience when you're looking at it as a as
(02:59:16):
like an alien situation, because that's how the story is
being told, Like it's from the male perspective of what
was happening in that household, and the virgin suicides does
not get a good enough love today. Like this is
a movie that was directed by Sophia Coppola as a
first feature and is amazing. Like, this movie is beautifully shot,
(02:59:42):
It is wonderfully done. It is acted with an ensemble
cast that is looking back now, kind of mind blowing.
I mean, Kristen Dunst is incredible. Josh Hartnett is at
like peak heartnet here. I know he's like soured for
a lot of people. But James Woods is great, and
this Kathleen Turner is a amazing You've got other random
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people like Danny DeVito that show up in this.
Speaker 3 (03:00:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:00:07):
All of the interactions with all of the kids are
so like awkward at the same time of just like
so realistic and authentic because it's authentically awkward. It's authentically
like can we just hang out and talk on the
phone tonight for twenty minutes? And it's such a great
(03:00:28):
perspective on growing up around this environment which we don't
get all that often.
Speaker 3 (03:00:33):
That's amazing that, you know, like you're kind of explaining
your deeper connection with it, kind of coming out of
Christianity and everything, because what I saw it is like
I didn't grow up with any kind of conservative or
Christian upbringing, but so the film felt very dream like
to me, you know. Yeah, yeah, and so it's interesting
(03:00:57):
to hear you your experience and watching it. You know,
like I didn't didn't even occur to me that people
would look at it that way, but that makes so
much sense, you know, Like to me, you're totally right
that it's like about the oppression I guess of these
girls for me watching it, and I guess this is
(03:01:18):
how it connects to the other films. Affect is like
I still don't really know why the things happen that
why they did, you know what I mean, Like like
why do they kill themselves? You know what I mean?
Like there's so many things in it that just kind
of leave you. You know, it's like unanswered questions in
a way. But that's kind of realistic to some degree,
(03:01:40):
even though it feels like a dream.
Speaker 2 (03:01:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's certainly like ethereal, especially when you're
in the traditional house. It is quite like everything has
this very soft framing. It's got the way that it's
especially that that last scene when when you're actually getting
to the climax of the film and you like creeping
through this house and like the edges of the wall
(03:02:03):
feel like there's a cloud wrapped around it in a way.
It's such a unique way to film it. And then
my god, the soundtrack of this is amazing, Like everybody's
saying in the chat, but acting for all the sisters,
especially Kirsten Dunst, like she is astonishing in this movie.
The emotion that it kind of feels in certain scenes
(03:02:25):
like emotionless, and that in itself is an emotion based
on how she's responding to those situations. This movie is
a gift that just watching it again and again every
single time is just it's an escape, which ultimately is
what the ending of the movie was, is an escape,
and that that itself is crazy. Yeah, adore this movie.
(03:02:50):
Adore adore the fact that we got Sophia Coppola as
a better much better director than actor obviously, and because
this was good, it's what got her to focus on
that and so it got us lost in translation and
other men love.
Speaker 3 (03:03:05):
Lost in translation. Yeah, I think I need to reevaluate
Marie Antoinette.
Speaker 2 (03:03:12):
Yeah, it's it's quite good.
Speaker 3 (03:03:14):
Yeah, I mean I remember liking the aesthetic of it,
you know, but yeah, I've only seen it the one
time in theaters that was it. I haven't really kept
up with it. Oh no, you know what I saw
the Beguiled is it?
Speaker 2 (03:03:26):
Beguiled is quite good and not Ye wasn't a.
Speaker 3 (03:03:31):
Fan personally, but I wasn't familiar with the originals, so
maybe I just didn't have the right context for it.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:03:38):
The only one that I even't like. I don't even
know that I liked it on the Rocks is rough.
I haven't liked the lingering quite a bit more than
that one.
Speaker 3 (03:03:47):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I kind of forget. She kind of
seemed to like keep making so many movies, but wasn't
really getting the same recognition as like those first two.
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:03:58):
No, and I still I've not seen Priscilla yet. I
definitely need to see that one.
Speaker 3 (03:04:02):
Oh yeah, I forgot she did that. It's weird that
that came out around the same time as Elviso.
Speaker 2 (03:04:09):
Yeah, Chris is saying wasn't lost in translation, supposed to
get a Kino a long time ago. It was supposed
to and that got canceled. The the internal rumor is
that Sophia Coppola herself blocked it and it's supposed to
be going to Criterion.
Speaker 3 (03:04:25):
That makes more sense.
Speaker 2 (03:04:26):
It does it does? It should not have a Keino
four K. It should have somebody that's going to treat
it a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (03:04:35):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:04:36):
Any anything else that you were like shout out real
quick instead of going deep.
Speaker 3 (03:04:40):
Cut out, Split your Head podcast where you can hear
me talk to other people other than Ryan.
Speaker 2 (03:04:48):
I meant other harsh coming of age films that you
want to know.
Speaker 3 (03:04:50):
Oh you're like, okay, time to go plug your thing.
Uh oh yeah, I'm just going to run through the
list I made quickly because I've tried to like put
a list together on letterboxed. So if you follow me,
I'm Bob McCully. In letterbox I post quite a bit
and I read a lot of reviews. So yeah, okay,
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no one has seen this movie and so I have
to shout it out. And it is one of the
harshest coming of age films. It's unfortunately the English title
is the notebook I read about this one. Yeah, okay,
so it's a Hungarian film. It's a World War two
film about two little twin boys who basically become like
(03:05:37):
Dee Reese Pariah. I don't know that one. They basically
like torture themselves is the best way to put it,
to become like super human like in the Freudian sense.
It's really harsh. I start counting as another great one.
Jeremy is another great one. Christian Aff I believe someone
mentioned earlier in the chat. Christian Aff is another fantastic one.
(03:05:59):
Smooth Talk.
Speaker 2 (03:06:01):
I've never seen smooth Talk.
Speaker 3 (03:06:03):
Oh it's oh my god, you have to see smooth Talk.
It is really intense. It's it starts out like a normal,
like teen romance kind of film, and then the last
half hour is like a psychological horror film. It's amazing.
(03:06:25):
The fan maybe would be considered one. I put the
wolf Pack on this list. I really love that documentary. Kids. Yeah,
Kids would be on there for sure. Mysterious Skin eighth
less scenes of yeah exactly. They come out of nowhere.
But the acting between is a treat. Williams and Laura
Dern they're acting together in the finals for her. That
(03:06:49):
was quick. Welcome to the Dollhouse is another good one.
I said, eighth grade, right, eighth grade, blew me away?
Loved that film. Grade Yeah, so good. Valerie in her
Week of Wonders, I mean, kind of a stretch. It's
a bit more on the surreal side. It's also one
of those films I mean, similar to the Their Fan
(03:07:10):
where the fan where like the underage actress aspect is like, yeah,
oh American pie man, I don't know, okay, American American pie.
Can we can we still enjoy those?
Speaker 2 (03:07:24):
Like I personally like them.
Speaker 3 (03:07:29):
I don't know, it's it's craz They're weird.
Speaker 2 (03:07:31):
They're weird and cringe believe me. But yeah, it's just like,
I don't know, there's movies from like ten years ago
that already feel weird with today's sensibility. It's the hard part.
I mean, so many of these movies. If you're just
you know, completely dismissing things because it's not up to
(03:07:52):
today's standards, you're gonna lose everything for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:07:54):
For sure. It's it's just one of those things you
have to prepare yourself. Like my wife and I tried
to visiting Super Bad recently. And we're kind of taking
it back a little bit by like the way they
were talking. I was like, man, I don't remember talking
like that in high school about girls and stuff. I
was just like, this is crazy. But I don't know.
(03:08:15):
We're all we're all cut differently, I guess. And no,
it's not like it's a bad movie. I think you
just have to kind of be aware of it.
Speaker 2 (03:08:22):
Yeah. I mean there's movies. Gosh, some of the stuff
that I went to show my kids that I saw young,
and like thirty seconds in the movie there's throwing around
f slurs and stuff, and I'm like, okay, let's teach
the seven year old what this means.
Speaker 3 (03:08:38):
Yeah, oh no, girl, Yeah yeah, I got thrown around
a lot in the nineties. Can't hardly wait, can't hardly wait.
When was the last time you watched that?
Speaker 2 (03:08:48):
I when that there was a Blu ray that came
out like three years ago. I think I watched it.
Then It's not Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (03:08:58):
I didn't really think too much of it. But I
had like one friend, like a gay friend of mine,
basically just like ripping into that film. He's like, you
don't understand what it was like for me. As a
kid watching that and I was just like really, I
couldn't really remember, And then watching I was like, oh yeah,
that would have been devastating. And then like Evan Embrey's
characters fucking creep the whole movie, Like what is this?
Speaker 2 (03:09:22):
There are so many movies that Just watching it now,
you're like, how did they approve writing this? Like this
is just yeah, fully and we're like doing it for laughs?
Speaker 3 (03:09:32):
Yeah, yeah, true. The eighties was really bad for that.
I think, very weird. Yeah, we all came of aids
watching them.
Speaker 2 (03:09:44):
And they're quite harsh, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:09:46):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (03:09:47):
All right, split your head. Everybody needs to check out
the show. Do you have plans for upcoming episodes? Can
you reveal or is that a secret.
Speaker 3 (03:09:55):
Or uh no? I mean I have so the way
it works, I take a break from November to February,
so I have four episodes left to put up. Only
one of them hasn't been recorded yet. So I've got
British picture. Oh thank you. Bal Raj Kong he is
(03:10:20):
a British and South Asian filmmaker. He's on the next episode.
I've got a discussion with doctor ethan Lyn and Jetta
about three films focused on pain. One of them is
the Bob Plan Again documentary, and two other films that
are kind of like lesser known. I should be interviewing
(03:10:40):
this guy who does RFN Pictures. He's got a couple
horror movies, one coming out soon called Hell Mayor I
think it is. And then actually, the one I'm really
most excited about is going to be my final episode
of this season with Lucky Sirrudi talking about his do
you know that guy? Okay cool?
Speaker 2 (03:11:00):
My first interview ever?
Speaker 3 (03:11:01):
Oh amazing, Yeah, he's amazing. His new film, box Cutter,
is such a level up for him. I honestly like
blown away by it. I would compare it to something
like Jeremy Solnier or s Craig Zaler, like kind of
in that sort of style. So I got to see
(03:11:23):
the screener of it, blew me away, got to interview him,
and that's a fantastic time talking with him. So I'm
really excited because I feel like that's going to be
a strong final episode and hopefully people get to see
box Cutters soon and be like, holy shit, who is
this guy?
Speaker 2 (03:11:38):
I need to see box Cutter. I've liked pretty much
everything he's done the I'm not gonna remember the name
of it right now, but the one where there's a
couple of people locked in the basement. Did you watch
all of this stuff?
Speaker 3 (03:11:49):
Yeah? Yeah, that one is Kindness of Strangers.
Speaker 2 (03:11:53):
Yes, yes, kind of.
Speaker 3 (03:11:55):
Yeah, it's sort of a little bit like that, but
way more ambitious. Hell maayre fuck you and into wait
fuck you? What?
Speaker 4 (03:12:06):
Ok?
Speaker 3 (03:12:07):
What did I say? Hell aware? Hellamaire? Love you, Corian. Honestly,
we've gone too far in the I won't give people
how boring lol? Oh no, and I agree, I agree,
you know, no, that is a good point. I would
agree with that people should be unlikable for sure. And
(03:12:27):
I think John Waters said it best about like well,
he said something about like like, isn't a villain supposed
to be a piece of shit? You know? And that's true,
And yeah, I agree. I don't want to sanitize version
of everything for sure. Yeah. I think it's it just
requires nuance, is all. And I think don't get rid
(03:12:47):
of these films. Just be aware, have conversations with people.
You know, Ryan, if you're showing your seven year old son, like, yeah,
you got to think about that thing, right, Oh fuck you?
As a tagline. Okay, right, right, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:13:00):
Yes, I agree. I'm not trying to sanitize anything either,
and I don't want movies to be made that are
only allowed to be sanitized, because all of those things
exist and we need to keep the knowledge of that
so that we don't go back to that. The hard
part is in things like Revenge of the Fucking Nerds,
which is creepy as shit, where yeah, they are playing
the rapist as the hero and that's like a that's
(03:13:23):
a big win moment like that is just like that's
too far gone. And I'm not saying that that should
be a race or anything, but also, what the hell
were we doing in films? Yeah, that's wild choice.
Speaker 3 (03:13:38):
You know what, you know what, And I'll make this
my last word on it. The most recent film that
I think nailed what we're talking about is Sean Baker's
Red Rocket, because like I think, to me, that's my
favorite film of his and that was a protagonist who
was a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (03:13:57):
Yep, but it.
Speaker 3 (03:14:01):
Was so exciting to watch and not once we ever
liked they're condoning this, but you couldn't help but be
like lean into like what's he going to do? Next.
You know they nail that.
Speaker 2 (03:14:12):
Yeah, I completely agree, it's it's not my favorite. I
prefer a Nora just slightly. But Red Rocket is I
think of his not big films. Red Rocket is like
his masterpiece. Other than which is they're both amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:14:27):
Oh yeah, I loved the Noora. It was great.
Speaker 2 (03:14:29):
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You all probably love us tonight. He's he's incredible. Go
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Speaker 3 (03:14:39):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (03:14:42):
I genuinely loved our talk. Going on your show this
year was a highlight for me. It was a big
conversation that we didn't even talk about a lot of
the things I think we planned on talking about. Well,
that's what made it great.
Speaker 3 (03:14:54):
Listening back to it. We did actually at the last
half hour get very like down the business, but the
first hour is basically just us talking about punk shows,
house party shows, growing up. Like Yeah, it's very nostalgic.
It was cool. It was a really good chat.
Speaker 2 (03:15:15):
Yeah, grateful you had me on. Everybody goes to subscribe
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(03:15:37):
in quite some time, I get a female guest other
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this is one that I first off, you hopefully will
be seeing an interview with her on the channel pop
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You're amazing. We'll see you next Thursday. Bob, you are amazing.
Keep up, keep up the incredible work on the show.
(03:15:58):
Can't wait for these interviews. Actually lucky, he's amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:16:01):
Yeah, you'll like it for sure.
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