Re-Connected July 10th, 2025: Announcements and Serial Killer Movies with Zachary K. Bryant!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast Network.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hello there, and welcome back to another Thursday night reconnected here.
And it's been a weird week. We got some random
things to talk about that Zach and I did not prepare, Zach,
so I'm sorry, but they are things that you'll be
able to speak to. I promise. It's been not that long.
I think you were last on in like February or March,

(00:54):
and I checked today. Other than Will, I think you
might be the most returned guest the day is your
eleventh time?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Has it really been eleven?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I would say, you know, I'll go try to fight
Will for it, but I think he's about like two
hundred ahead of me at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So I mean, considering he's got a regular seat every month,
that's gonna be difficult to pass up.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
But how you doing, Welcome back? Not too shabby, not
too shabby. Enjoying the summer? How about yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I hate the summer, so trying to make the best
of it. I'm a I'm a fat man that hates
humidity and it's miserable just to walk to the car.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
You know, I want to like, I know, we talked
about you coming here for like during the summer, like
during the summer at some.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Point, Yeah, you're gonna be miserable, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, ich Yeah it's uh. I won't claim to know
what it feels like there, but even moving here from
the desert, which super dry and it's great and super hot,
I came here and wanted to jump in front of
a train. I gotta be honest, it was really bad here.

(02:02):
I was not super happy with it, but I've gotten
kind of used to it and I love the winter,
so hey, it's worth it.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Remind me where were Where did you live at before.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
The High Desert in California? So about an hour and
a half north of Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I was thinking maybe you were talking about Phoenix. I
did visit Phoenix. I've ever been to la And why
would you put a city like what is it, like
the sixth largest city in America in the middle of
the desert. And you know, before I drove out there,
I was just thinking, I know. I drove through New
Mexico and I was like, oh, okay, this is what Arizona
is going to be like too. And then as soon
as you at the Arizona border, I hit Tanta which

(02:37):
is a forest. I'm like, why is the city in
the desert.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, Phoenix is very hot and it's it's essentially the
same desert as where I grew up. It's just a
very large desert. Yeah, Phoenix is like a five hour
drive from where I lived, so okay, maybe a little more. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
When I did my road trip, I ended up turning
up to go to like Utah, Utah and Nevada and
all that, and then I hit northern California like Willows
Creek and yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm being around all all
those all the shitty stuff will Is I wanted, and
you know, it's the only thing that was sad. It
was in the middle of COVID because that's the reason
we did the trip, because we couldn't go anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And I was like, I.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Just really want to see the bigfoot stuff and all
of it was closed. I was like, Oh, I wanted.
I wanted to eat the weird foot shaped cheeseburger. It's
like half the reason I drove out there.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I want a foot shaped cheese burger.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Have you ever seen the movie Willow Creek?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think so, like right when it came out, So
it's been that was what.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Twenty fourteen, Yeah, somewhere around there.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, they go through all that, so it was actually
kind of cool to go over there. It's like, oh,
I've seen all this stuff in that movie, so that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's great. Yeah, it's been a long time that that's yeah,
I need to rewatch that one. That was fun.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, I really like that when you know, I give
a lot of credit to any director who says I'm
gonna set a camera up for like twenty seven minutes, yeah,
and I'm going to keep it interesting. I really have
always liked that movie.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Just for that scene Hilton is in Phoenix. She says,
only one hundred and eighteen. He's here in Phoenix yesterday.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
And you know, I say, to someone from the East coast,
there's always that thing of like the joke of it's
the humidity kind of thing. You know, it's not real heat.
Once you get to like one hundred and ten, it
doesn't matter where you're at it.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, although if it was one hundred and ten and
like eighty percent of humidity, that's that's the dangerous kind
of weather. The people are literally going to die from.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, Like East Coasters just get like sun poisoned when
they go out to like la and stuff like, because
it's not you know, you just have to go like
sit inside.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
So checking in how's they live by film? What's uh,
what's been happening?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Uh? Then we've been doing good. We just finished recording
and I think it's uploaded our final episode for the
Mission Impossible series. So this was pretty much all first
times for me and Chris Adam was very happy. So
that was That's pretty much been our big project as
far as that goes, is just getting through all those
And it was kind of a big change because last summer,

(05:07):
for people who listened to our show might remember, we
did a Fast and Furious and they reminded me a
lot of each other in a way. But also Mission
Impossible is just more way more confident like it does, and.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I frustrate you. I want to listen to the whole series.
I've literally only seen one of the movies. That's not
when I started.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
I had only seen the first one, just because it
was a Brian to Palmer film, Like I really had
no interest in it.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Why I have that one?

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I was like, I watched and honestly I like it.
I think a lot of the ones are better, like
the ones that come later are better. You know, we
kind of gave an example the last one. You know,
not to spoil too much, but we've all agreed the
very last movie. The writing's absolute dogshit. But because everything
around it's really well done. So you're like, I don't
watch miss I mean the mission impossible. Every plots the

(05:55):
same Ethan Hunt needs to go rogue to stop bad
thing from happening, and it's it's every movie, and I'm
cool with that.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Do some crazy shit for a while.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
I've heard they're great. I just need to get into
it for sure.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I think it starts rough. I think that's kind of
the hard part.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, yeah, especially when it's such different directors for those
first three.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, I ended up linking the h because the first
four it's De Palma Wu and then three is Abrams
and then four is brad Bird. Yeah and yeah, so
they're all drastically different.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, uh, you watch a bunch of stuff. So we're
gonna be talking about that in just a minute. Recent pickups,
let's do that first. What have you been picking up? Oh?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Okay, I got a stack of stuff because I couldn't
remember everything I got, so Uh, I know we have somebody.
I think it's uh Zach, the one in the discord
who's also the book collector. So I just recently got
the Solomon Kane one.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I have not seen that that.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, that's easy.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, they got three variations of it and the only
thing I wish as it came with a CD. It's
one of my favorite soundtracks from any movie like ever.
It's probably like my top ten. Yeah. So, and you
can't find it anywhere, so that's great. But yeah, I've
been into that and a lot of my purchase have
been going into cone and stuff. I've been buying the
comics and things like that. So I have a little

(07:16):
bit smaller of a stack than I normally have. Uh,
steel books. A lot of these are gonna be steel books.
So got the Monkey, that's the UK one. Yeah, yeah,
so grab that just to keep the Perkins rent going guns,
the long.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Legs one nice, ye, just got to get all those.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I still got to get that bootleg of that really
long titled Netflix one he has.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
I really need to grab that.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Oh yeah, but last yeah, last steel book is Fallout.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Oh I need to see that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Are you are you a fan of the games.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'd never played them. I mean I tinkered with Fallout
three for like ten minutes on somebody else's system. I've
never I've never given a ton of time to them,
just because it came. It came like right after I
got into everything else that I was doing it right,
just missed it.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
I will say, I think it's a good entry point
for like somebody if you don't, I mean, if you
know stuff about the games. There's a lot of like
Easter eggs and stuff, but I don't think it's necessary. Yeah,
like the very end, you might be like, oh, what's
why is it ending like this? And then it's like, yeah,
that'd probably be about the only thing. But beyond that,
let's see last stop at Yuma County, which I think
Arros has a sale now, so this is probably cheaper

(08:34):
than when I picked it up.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Incredible movie shot my friend Frand who directed that.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, fantastic movie. One of my favorites movies ever. Bring
me the Head of Alfredo Garcia nice. I need to.
I'm playing on watching the four K here. It looks great.
I don't know why Shout didn't give it a fucking
slipcover like they did everything else.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
He's too much of an indie director. We can't do this.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, he can't do that for Peck and Pop, and
they ended on a couple of westerns. Uh, I got
these arrows for for a few dollars more, and fit's
full of dollars and I am patiently waiting for the
good and the bad and the ugly, which will be
here someday.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Uh offered the chat for for buying those from you.
Oh who is You're gonna start getting offers?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Watch. Hey, hey, my cat needs My cat needs a shave,
So you know, maybe if I.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Were mad, I hope that wasn't a euphemism.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
No, he's like, he's a long haired cat and he's
it's so sad, like it's really sad. So we got
to shave him, first time he's ever been shaved. He's
gonna hate me for about a week.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh so my stuff real quick. I got a couple
of weird things first. I wanted to I don't normally
like show out clothing. But everybody's commenting on this tonight
transflag with fix your Hearts are Dy quote from David Lynch.
Everybody's saying where to get that? Go to Freda cinema
dot com, freedacinema dot com and click on shop at

(10:09):
the top, or sorry, it's the Freeda Cinema. Dang, I
got the entire thing wrong. Let's start over. Erase that
the Freda Cinema dot org. I'm sorry, the free toa
cinema dot org. And then click on shop at the
top and they've got that, and then the other thing.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't think it was free shipping, but I just like, hey,
I may as well get something else. Well, I'm here
since I'm paying for shipping. I got this house pin
Hello Kitty house oupin that I think is hilarious, and
considering Sam as the one that designed the house poster,
I wanted to get it seemed right. Some stuff in
the mail over the last couple of days. This just

(10:47):
came to my house today. It was delivered to the
wrong house. Thankfully they brought it over Ascilloscope subscription. They
released a flip side. This is a filmmaker Chris Wilcha
revisits the record story he worked in as a teenager
in New Jersey, and it's a big discussion stuff I
love seeing in films, so I'm very eager to see this.

(11:09):
We do not talk about Second Run Cinema enough. They're
over in the UK. Their stuff is usually very cheap
and pretty much everything is region free. So I picked
up this recent release of Ishanu from Second Run. One
of the reasons is Ahmed, who was on the channel
recently talking about the Cloud Door. He's the one that

(11:29):
did the booklet essay on this one, so I wanted
to check that out. And the movie is supposedly incredible,
so I go ahead.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
I was gonna say, this might surprise you. That might
be like top five of the sections on Orbit DVD
that I click on the most because I'm meant to
hit because I'm meant to hit second site.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I never Oh that is so zach, That's so funny.
Oh that is hilarious. I love it. Next thing, I've
been really into Jackie Chan over the last couple and
thankfully we are seeing all kinds of incredible releases of
his films. To Kill with Intrigue is a movie that

(12:07):
I did not have, I don't think. So they just
did this and it's a four K. Well. I got
rid of some of my old Jackie Chan releases. O
fair okay out, so now I got it in four K,
and then you were mentioning steel books. I got one
to show off, which this is one of my favorite
movies of all time. And let me take off this

(12:27):
little crappy j card that they put on there. I
don't know, you know, obviously this is like a classic.
A lot of people love this movie. I don't know
how many people are in the chat are gonna be like,
why did you do this? But I had to get
the deluxe edition of Clueless. I think this is one
of the greatest movies of all time. And on the
inside it's got the same steel book that they've been
rocking for a while. I just knocked the disclose, of

(12:50):
course because the spindle was not perfect. But on the
inside it's got all of the pictures from the film.
And then inside this little box that they did, you've
got this which has all kinds of stuff. This was
ready to go earlier. All kinds of stuff in here.
So we've got art cards, a polaroid, a magnet, stickers, like,

(13:15):
there is so much in here, and Clueless is literally
one of my favorite movies of all time, so had
to do it. There's even a little folded poster. I
am shocked that they put this much love into a
studio release, and I want to see them do more
of that. So I said, this is paramount, Paramount, Okay,
I believe yeah, Paramount, Yeah, Sony. I don't think Sony

(13:38):
would do all that unfortunately, not not for clueless. Yeah,
that that is my pickups. You watch a lot of stuff.
What have you been hanging out with lately? Ooh?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
I's say, uh, Anthony knows because me and him have
been chatting. And I just recently went through all the
Stepfather films, which I think be more of a discussion later,
But those were those were actually a lot more fun.
I've seen the first one. I saw it years and
years and years ago, probably with my mom because I
remember the where was that case from? They had it

(14:14):
on TV. I remember it wasn't Unsolved Mysteries. I think
it was. I remember it later. But yeah, that's how
the actual guy got caught and everything right. But yeah,
I've been watching those. First one was really great, of course,
second one was surprisingly really good. It's good they had
Terry O'Quinn to come back. And then the third one
gets into the TV movie thing and it changes the

(14:35):
actor and it's just it's fine, it's it grows on
me as it goes, but it's it definitely was a
downgrade from you know, having Terry and Quinn in the
first two and then dropping it down. I mean, they
could at least picked another lost actor if they were
going to recast, you know, make me excited to watch it. Uh,
let's see beyond that.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
What I have been watching now.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I have to look.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
I watched The Patriot for of July because I saw that. Yeah, yeah,
gotta gotta watch The Patriot. I ended up watching. I
found out about it recently from Krip who's been on
here before. For anyone who's confused about who I'm talking about.
He showed The Army of One Nicholas Cage movie had

(15:18):
a director's cut on YouTube that was just uploaded for
free by the director, and so I decided to watch.
I had never seen the theatrical and I'd never heard
anything good about it. The whole movie where he's playing
the guy who like snuck into Pakistan maybe yeah, I
think it's Pakistan to try to assassinate Osama bin Laden
and was caught they you know, because he heard because

(15:39):
God told him to. Ended up watching like the directors
like the movie. The theatrical movie is like an hour
and a half and the director's cut is two hours
and like forty minutes, so it's like a whole other
hour and I'm really confused watching it, and it makes
me kind of curious go back to the director's cut,
how I mean the theatrical cut of how they turned
that movie in kind of a irreverent comedy, because it's

(16:02):
actually kind of sad. Like you watch it like, yeah,
it's funny because Nick Cage doing Nick Cage things, but
then like there's this like underlying sadness throughout it, and
I'm like, this is just kind of a bummer in
a weird way. Like, so I'd recommend that it sucks
that the only way to watch it's like a three
sixty p YouTube video that's compressed terribly, but you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
A one way it not at all.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yes, apparently the director couldn't make money off of it,
so it's not monetized either, so no ads or anything.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
And then the only thing else I guess I got
into was was got onto a small Tony Scott run
watched Crimson Tide, Days of Thunder, Emmy of the State
Spy Games, and The Hunger. So I'm almost done watching
everything Tony Scott's ever made at this point, I got
like four movies left, and one of them's Top Gun.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
So saving Top Gun for last.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, purposefully, there's one movie that I really want to
know what you personally thought. And I did not check
your letterbox. I've been staying away from any of the
reviews that you posted to well, I've like clicked on
the review to read that review, but not gone to
the profile to see what else you've been watching. Okay,
I want to hear what you thought of Life at Chuck.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I haven't seen it. No, no, yeah, I wanted to,
man like I it has been. It was something was
going on that week. I wish I could remember what
it was. I think my schedule had just changed for
work and I never could make it out to the
theater to see it. Unfortunately, damn yeah you no, it's
more disappointed than me. I could not make it. And
then I think I think my theater only kept it

(17:35):
for a week. Oh, I swear I went to the
next week and maybe they had like a ten thirty
showing where I'm forty five minutes away from the theater.
I was like I can't get out of the theater
at like nearly one o'clock and then drive forty five
minutes home, like I'm too old, I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
That I don't understand, like it has not done well
at the box office, and it is a revelatory film,
like I guaran see it. Everybody should have seen, and
for some reason it is just languishing and hopefully gets
a second life on streaming or something, because God, do
people need to see this movie.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
And I, you know, I wonder if some of that
is just because Doctor Sleep bombed at the box office
as well. I mean, you know, Flanning is one of
those guys he does so well on television and does
so well on streaming that it's kind of disappointing that,
you know, he's only had I guess now three theatrical
runs in like ten years, like and Oculus did, okay

(18:30):
said what was the last minute? Maybe a ouiji? Yeah
that might be the last one before Doctor Sleep. I
think he did mostly TV and streaming after that.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, So that's what happens when you are stuck in
the Netflix machine, unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Now the Amazon machine.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, and yeah, it's God, I just hope he gets
some sort of freedom to be able to do all
of that other stuff he needs. I don't know, Like
life Chuck is so different from everything he's been doing.
It just felt fresh, like we didn't have to focus
on the horror aspect for the entire movie because it's
such a different style and he's got that expectation of course,

(19:11):
to have just this ongoing dread that he's got and
everything that he does. So it was nice to see him,
I don't know, spread his wings a little bit do
something very very different.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, and you know, from what I've kind of seen,
and I've read the short story when Let It Bleed
came out, which maybe been like ten years ago now,
so I remember really liking that story and I thought
of it it's more Sociphi than anything.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
But yeah, with that one, it almost.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Reminds me of like it'd be something like Before I Wake,
which I also think kind of unfortunately got shafted. I
think that was one that was supposed to hit theaters
and it took like two and a half years to
ever release because the studio that made it shut down
and then it got shelved by another studio and then
they just said it's Netflix, just throw it on there.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's fine, that's true. And then, of course, as Sumner's saying,
if it bleeds it leads, I mean, yeah, there's no.
I don't know, there's catch. It's just a philosophical piece
for a lot of people. And it's not like that
selling well in the theater in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
No, I mean it's, you know, the one thing that's
kind of interesting to see because I remember, I mean,
twenty nineteen hasn't been that long ago, but I remember
you could pretty much throw anything out in think twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
In of itsel oh, he was saying, if it bleeds
is the title?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, whoops. I definitely did not do that right,
Yeah I could, yeah, I see, I see now. Yeah.
I couldn't remember right off the top of my head.
I was trying to look at my bookshelf. I was like,
I know it's over there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
My bad. Carry on. I did not mean no, no,
you're good, You're good. I was nineteen.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah, And you know, I think now like movies can
be successful, but I think audiences are just pickier, Like
I think that's just reality.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
They're just not gonna go for anything.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
And we've seen that a lot, like movies either are
pretty successful or they're just bombing.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Well that and I mean the reality is it's just
so many people are not going to the theater nowadays.
I hate to like keep bringing that bill, but I
mean when movies are literally costing, you know, on a
on a nighttime, like parents are out of work because
everybody has to work nowadays, and all that, there are
so many people that are needing to go at seven

(21:16):
o'clock at night, and so you're charging you know, upwards
of twenty dollars just for the ticket and then to
get any sort of snack. Now it's another ten dollars
plus drinks. I don't know, I was a ten bucks.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I's like I think I bought a small drink the
other day because I didn't want to use my points
and it costs me nine dollars. Jesus.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
And I mean, you know, and I noticed one thing
I have not is going to I got a Regal.
So a lot of them are using the passes. Now
that's what I have. I have a pass for Regal.
Even people who know nothing about it are sitting there
buying it because it's it really is the I don't know.
I feel like that's just really the future of the
cinema is you're gonna get a subscription subscription. Yeah, which

(21:56):
is good, I guess in a way, But I don't
know how that's going to do long term because I
already know studios don't make as much off a subscription ticket,
like I think it halfs like what they usually get
out of everything else.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
So yeah, it's it's a lot. It's certainly a lot
to consider. And then I mean, I still don't even
know on the back end how they're dividing all of
that income up to say, hey, this movie made however
X dollars. Not that that matters or anything, but the
sad thing is decisions are made based on that. Yeah,
and if I don't know, if a third of the
people that go to see the movie are on amc

(22:31):
A list and the regal pass, how does that work
on the back end? I'd love to know.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, this is you know, the closest I had when
I was when I worked at a movie theater was
movie Pass and movie Pass was just one of those
things where everyone knew it was gonna be a colossal failure.
But we're going to write it out until it is
like and now every studio is like, you know, movie
Pass had a good idea, but you guys just did
it really wrong. So I don't know as far as
it goes on that end, and I think I think

(22:57):
a big problem studios is always going to be a
patience thing. Like I was about it with somebody the
other day, and this is more on television, but HBO
just canceled their JJ Abrams show Duster after a season.
I don't know the quality of the show. I haven't
watched it, but you know, I think a lot about
like Breaking Bad and that kind of era where AMC
and Sony really want knew they had something good for

(23:17):
several seasons and they said, we're just going to write
it out because the people are going to find this show,
and they were right. Ended up on Netflix and the
show blew up and to be one of the biggest
things on television at the time. And I feel like
that kind of bleeds over to movies too, where you know,
and that could just be not having the movie Store anymore,
you know. I think Matt Damon's talked about it a lot,
you know, He's like, if you didn't make it in theater,
we'll make it on the we'll make it in the

(23:38):
video store.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Not anymore.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
No, you jumping on streaming and you know who knows
how studios decide what's successful on streaming. I mean I
think about Netflix and Santa Clara Diet, where they didn't
they even admitted they didn't lose you know, they didn't
lose viewership. It just wasn't gaining subscribers.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
And it's like, like, what is.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
The like the Ricky Bobby way of doing things, if
you're not first, your last, which makes no sense, Like
we can't always be increasing viewers.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
No, I mean like Disney making the money they did
in like twenty nineteen and then just watching that drastic
fall off in now twenty twenty five. It's like weirdly
impressioned to watch. Yeah, I mean, you know, they couldn't
do any wrong for like a few years there or
anything they put out made a billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
True. True. I don't know if you saw this comment
from Krinn Krin Sai Zachary Bigfoot Burgers about an hour
from my house. It's closed now said.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Oh no, no, I am sad.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
I didn't get to have its.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, speaking of subscriptions and a AMC A list, I
took advantage of mine last weekend and went to the
theater for a double feature. There was not This is
getting really sad like. There was not much left in
the theater that we had not already seen in the
last month, or that wasn't sequels to things that we
haven't seen. So we haven't seen Ballerina because I've not
caught up on all the John Wicks, I did not

(25:00):
watch Jurassic World Rebirth or unsay that I've not seen
any of the new ones. I've still only ever seen
the original trilogy, so I'm way behind. But we had
not seen the Lelo and Stitch remake, so we went
and saw that and it was really bad. I was

(25:20):
so sad, Like I enjoyed the first that the animated
Leelo and Stitch when it came out. It was so good,
and they took out so much of what made it fun.
I mean, there was a couple of scenes that were
pretty good in this, but it could not save just
what felt soulless. And the sad thing is I've not
seen many of the live action remakes of the animated
films that they've done for these last twelve or fifteen

(25:42):
years or whatever. This is something that I can compare
because just two weeks ago we went and saw that
How to Train Your Dragon live action remake that felt
like a real movie. It felt like something that had
a coherent storyline, that had every piece of it Lelo
and Stitch was just gone. I was sad that it
felt like such a shell of what it could have been.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
You know, I was reading that the guy I know,
Chris Sanders, was one of the ones who directed How
to Train Your Dragon, but it's not him. It's the
other guy whose name is escaping me. And he knew
they were gonna do it, and he said, well, I
really don't want them to screw it up, so I'm
just gonna direct it. And I'm like, I respect that, Like,
you know, it's nice to get directors who say, you

(26:22):
know what, I have a vision for this. And I mean,
I can criticize How to Train Your Dragon because it's
the same movie, like it's shot for shot the same movie.
But it was good. I think they did improve on
a couple of things. I actually think the final set
piece for How to Train Your Dragon is improvement over
the animated because it just has a bigger scale to it. Yeah,
so yeah, I think there was a few net good

(26:43):
changes in as far as that goes. But yeah, with
like Leland, Stitch and stuff. I gave Leelan and Stitch
a decent grade only because I think part of me
had just seen snow White before that, and I was like, well,
it's better than that.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, And I didn't know, I didn't. I gave it.
I gave it like two and a half stars a letterbox.
It was just fine.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
It was just it wasn't it wasn't offensive.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
No, and like there was nothing about it that made
it atrocious.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Even the movie I saw the week before, Megan two
point zero, still much. It felt so much worse than
the Lelo and Stitch movie. Anyways. The other thing, which
I'm curious if you've seen this one, because you've seen it,
seems like you're not going to as much in the
theater at the moment, but you historically have gone out
of your way to see some of these smaller movies.
Forty acres. Did you go see that one?

Speaker 4 (27:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay, so forty acres.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
I'm a disappointment this year.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Daniel Deadweiler is living on a farm and this is
I think it's twelve years after an event that happened
that caused basically all of the food sources in the
world to collapse, and so the people that have farmland
are like the ones that are doing well, they're wealthy.
People are coming to try to to loot your your

(28:00):
your land and your crops and whatever you can. But
beyond that, this movie is kind of crazy because it's formatted,
i don't know, almost like a post apocalypse zombie movie
in a couple ways with how they approach things. But really,
this whole movie is just hanging on the performance of
Daniel Deadweiler, and she was great, and a lot of

(28:21):
the other performances were great. It was solid. It wasn't
the hard thing is wasn't like there's nothing special, It
wasn't super unique because it plays off a lot of
tropes that you've seen in a bunch of other movies.
There is not a lot of I don't know, memorable things.
I will say there's one, very very well done seen

(28:41):
that was intimidating as hell that happened. Essentially, the entire
room is dark and there are flashes of light that
just allows for some really great cinematography for your eye
to catch something in that flash for a second and
go oh, like I know it's happening, and then the
sound design is coming in and making it easily for
me the most memorable part the film. But yeah, I

(29:01):
don't know. It was good, but I sort of wanted
a little bit more from it.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, it's I haven't went as much this year, and
it really is just a distance thing. Like I got
to the point this year where I was like, I
only get until the summer. I only had one day
off a week and I was like, I spent an
hour and a half driving there and back. That's two
and a half hours at the movie, even for a
two hour movie, because previews are so long, and it's
just like so even if I go see a twelve
o'clock movie, I see one movie and I'm not back

(29:27):
until five thirty. And I was just like, it's just
I was like, it's just not worth it. Like me
and my me and my girlfriend are go out, like
we're going out tomorrow morning because right now they have
like Jurassic World playing at like eight fifty.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Five in the morning.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I wish that, I know.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
I'm so excited. Yeah, then We're gonna go see Superman
right afterwards at like twelve, so that's nice. But yeah,
I want to see I want to see forty Acres.
I don't know if it played at my theater or
I feel like it did. But a lot of stuff
like that just gets late showings.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
There was one showing at the theater that we went
to all day and it was like five thirty or
something like that.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah, And I mean, I think that's a little thing
about being selective too, like that a lot of those
little indie ones, they just want to throw them on
light at night. I'm trying to remember a movie I
saw where if I wanted to see it, it was
like ten thirty at night, and I was just like,
I'm not doing that. I just I just can't.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
It's too much.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
I'm assuming you saw twenty eight days later there, twenty
eight years later, yes, years, yes, Yes.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I thought that was very, very good, super unique, very British,
which I think turned a lot of people off. Yeah,
definitely had the British side of Danny Boyle coming out strong,
especially with that ending, which I know a lot of
people were like, oh what was that as they walked
out of the theater. I'm so stoked to see what
the next one ends up being from them.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, da Costa's doing She's doing the next one, right,
I believe. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I think it's a her own sanctuary or something like that,
something like that. Yeah. Yeah. The only other thing I
watched this week. I'm curious if you saw this one,
Steven Soderberg's Presence from earlier this year.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
And you just have not seen it yet. It's on
my list, I see Wolf fancy you know. I'm looking
on here, just see how many twenty twenty five movies
I've seen, and I have seen forty one, but I'm
just not hitting the one journey Man, and I'm usually
like way behind you and everyone else, and I think,
what am I up to?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I'm up to thirty six, So somehow I'm just seeing
different ones than you.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, and I mean a lot of the ones I've seen,
Like I'm trying to see how many of these have
been theater watches. Not probably about half of them, because
a lot of them I saw later. Like I'm looking
at my top ten for the year so Far's see,
I'm said one, two, three, four, six, Only like six
of my top ten I actually got to see in theaters.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
So yeah, a lot of them. I just said to
see later.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, uh so presence for those that don't know. I
don't think this is a spoiler because it was in
all the marketing and everything. It is a story told
from the point of view of a spirit in a house,
and uh. I liked the gimmick aspect of that. I
think it lent to some interesting tomatography choices, but I

(32:03):
don't know. It was definitely far from top tier Soderberg.
I would say that I wanted more out of it.
I will say the climax of it really well done.
I just think, knowing Soderberg and how he's done things
in the past, I wish he would have done four
of those scenes and then like an even bigger climax.
But we we kind of just got like a pretty

(32:25):
sleepy movie and then the last eight minutes was like, Yeah,
this is what I wanted out of a movie like this.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Now, did you see Black Bag? Since he had two
this year's not yet, that's the one I saw.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Say I saw a Black Bag in theaters?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
No, I got the four K here. I need to
be watching it.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Here, good man, it's really good, But yeah, I need
to see presence, because I've heard it from a few
people that they it's been mixed enough to where it's
interested in me to kind of just see where I
kind of follow on that because I like the idea
of the gimmick.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
And I like Soderburgh.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
You know, I never know quite what to expect him,
which is what I think makes me like him as
a director so much. It's the same, Yeah, he knows
what I'm gonna get for this one.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I agree fully. So a couple things from this week
that we should probably bring up, Uh, the Nightmare on
Elm Street art saga, Uh good god, did you pay
attention to any of this online this week?

Speaker 4 (33:19):
I mean I saw that amazing looking AI artwork and
I really hope they use it please.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
So as it turns out, somebody on the Blu ray
dot com forums got AI to make this art that
was passed around all week that went all the way
up literally two Warner Brothers to verify if this was
the real art that was coming and they had to
publicly say this is not authentic artwork.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
I wouldn't I gonna sue because that could like honestly,
that could actually harm them, like long term on the sales, Yeah,
four K and exactly selling like selling hot enough to
have any loss in sales.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
So what's What's a funny thing to me though, is
they've technically still not even announced it. They've not even
said this is coming out now. As of two days ago,
there is a listing on Amazon that showed up that
we can see that there is a four case deal
book case coming out. But my big thing the amount
of other people on YouTube that had to go live

(34:20):
and talk about the art for an hour or make
a video with you making a face going next to
it to say this art is so bad I'm gonna
die or whatever is so fucking ridiculous. Why are we
having reaction culture to something when it's not even official.
Nobody has said this is the real art, and you're

(34:42):
doing all these things to literally farm clicks from everybody
that is subscribed to you. These people are embarrassing and
it's so ridiculous that people fall for it. I don't
understand how these are getting twenty thousand views in like
a day talking about AI art that they can They
can only say, we don't know if this is real yet,

(35:04):
but look at it. It's so bad. It sucks well.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
And you know, I don't know if you've seen it yet.
I was hearing about this today, so you might con
correct me on it's sure on YouTube a lot more
than I am. Uh have you seen that thing about
how YouTube wants, like is looking to at least demonetize
like the AI slop, that's good. Yeah, and I think
it's great. I was like, you know, if we can
like make it so people aren't interested in this AI
slop to make easy money, that's that's good. Like this

(35:30):
might be the one thing YouTube does that's really good
for the platform. See imagine And it's like that, Look
how much reaction some dude got chat GBT to make
some shit art. I mean he got Warner Brothers. Look,
he got all the attention he could have ever asked for.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, probably more than he Yeah, like he just thought
of it.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I mean, to be fair, maybe the dude just thought
it was a ship post and he didn't think it'd
go that far.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Like you know, the reality is, we have no idea
about any of the transfers, We have no idea about
any of the extras. We have no idea of an
official release date. All we know is it seems like
a seven film Nightmare in Elm Street and four K
collection is coming eventually this year. There's been a pre
order up for the UK for quite some time now.

(36:14):
We have no actual data on when that's going to happen,
no idea on the real art. But good god, this
is just atrocious that people jump on it to literally
take advantage of people that are simply into the drama
or want to react to everything. It is an embarrassment.
And yeah, like Karen says, glad I missed this fiasco,

(36:36):
it was so bad for like a full twenty four hours.
It was everywhere everywhere.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, And I mean if they are going to do
which I assume they are, because if Warner Brothers has
to take the time to like check the art, to
sit there and say, okay, obviously something's coming something from
Nightmare to me kind of says that at least from speculation.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Well, and the Amazon listing is pretty damn apparent now.
It just at this point just come out and announce it.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Come on, Yeah, and I mean it's a bit. It's
a big release because people have been begging shout to
do it for I don't know when did Friday thirteenth
come out?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Since then like, gosh, that was what twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah, so I mean, you know, it's it'll be nice
to have that release and now it's potentially gonna be
overshadowed by all of that.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, and it will you know, undoubtedly there will be
some you know, huge note like probably like ten percent
of the people that see the official announcement will go, ugh,
this art is awful. I wish that fake one from
two months ago was the actual art. And now they'll
have to like either not respond, but that will be
a vocal portion of people in the chat and uh
in response to that in real life, it's crazy that

(37:45):
that's a thing.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
If if Warner Brothers is smart, they will take inspiration
from their DVD sets that were brilliant, Like do those
just do that? That's fine, Have the spines line up
and do it. It'd be great, Which we don't get
that kind of stuff anymore. But I was like, that's
one thing about the DVD sets a nightmare. They all
looked great. I can't think of one that looked bad.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Gary, you are so right, he says, before saying Warner
Brothers would never make such ai slap. Look at their
artwork for the Blazing Saddle Steel book. It is so bad.
That was I think the worst piece of art last year.
And that's only because the Aceventuro one is coming out
this year.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Oh yeah, is that is that the Walmart exclusive? Uh?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
That one is a wide release? I believe, not Walmart exclusive.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Usually their Walmart exclusives have been shit. So I was
just like, ah, it's probably that one. I was like,
do they just like, what's the worst artwork we have?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Just give it to Walmart.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
The sad thing is pretty much all of those have
been one artist, and every time I post the announcement,
he goes in and comments on my announcement on Instagram.
So thanks for sharing. I'm like, Okay, you're welcome.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah. I mean, and you know, I think people are
harsh on artists, Like there's like definitely been some Shout
ones over the years that I'm like, I'm not crazy
about this artist. There's nothing wrong with it. It's not
my style. And they had that for a while. I
do kind of miss like I forgot who their first
artist was for Shout. I do miss them like a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Oh gosh, what was his name? I think you started
with the d.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, whitehead Devin Whitehead.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Hey, I liked his art quite a bit, and even
then it was controvert. I think now people look back
and say, man, we wish he had his artwork. But
i'llow those are the good old days that complained about
oh yeah every time one came out like this looks
like shit. Just put the original artwork out and it's
like you can reverse the covers.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Guys, every single time. So the other big thing, people
are freaking out because of the Night of the Living
Dead four case deal book that Sony announced went up
for pre order at Diabolic DVD yesterday for less than
fifteen minutes because they had put up a listing beforehand

(39:50):
that everybody could sign up to get an email when
it was live, and within fifteen minutes they sold out
of their allotment, so they had to pull the listing,
and everybody's freaking out. The website it was down. You
literally could not access anything on Diabolic DVD for like
forty five minutes or an hour. It was real bad,
and a lot of people obviously did not get it,
and so everybody's freaking out now it's gone. I'm never

(40:11):
gonna get one of these. It is so ridiculous. This
is a wide release. It's gonna be available everywhere. Nobody
said that this was a diabolic DVD exclusive. You're gonna
be able to get one. It's not gonna sell out
on day one. Are you excited about this movie? Have
you seen the nineteen ninety nine of the Living Dead? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (40:27):
I actually have a steal book of that one. Funny enough,
I forgot who put that one out, so.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I didn't know that it had a steal before. That's nice.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
If you give me like one minute if on it.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Sure, take your time. Yeah, Mozart is right. Mozart says,
Sony's gonna print this thing for years to come. This
is a highly sought after four K release with a
cut of the film that we've wanted for years and years.
This is something that people have been, you know, thinking
we will never see and the fact that we're getting it,
this is going to be very popular for Sony. And

(40:56):
if Sony is one of those ones that does their
limit did steal books and it'll sell out and then
after like a year and a half, they'll reprint it. However,
because of how popular this is going to be, they'll
likely do a standard in between, which they don't always do.
In fact, they kind of rarely do. But this I
think is going to get them a lot of money

(41:17):
and they're definitely going to keep printing it.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Here's the original one I had.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Oh is that a US release? Or is that from Germany?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
This is Germany. It's got an eighteen rating on an
uncut version says it's a Sony disc. But I can't
see the company anywhere. Yeah, it doesn't say it this
is Sony, but I guess they put one out in Germany.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Huh. Interesting? Either that or they stole the they did,
they weren't allowed to print it and they were like,
let's not put our name on it.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Yeah, they'll never know.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Oh that's great.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
I forgot that had an eighteen radiing on it.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
They Yeah, the other big thing and this is the
last thing. Normally we don't bring up all drama, but
this one was funny enough that we got to discuss
because I don't normally cover mascre video releases. Did you
hear about what happened with them this week?

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Is it the same? You know, I'll just let you
tell me just so.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I don't like an assumption the bankruptcy paper.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didnt see that fake thing.
I called that.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Well, hold on, I've got a theory on that. So
a document, a court document, showed up in a Facebook
group of Lewis justin from Ascer Video declaring bankruptcy. It
was something that we didn't see any more documentation. We
just saw that it's happening in one of the LA
district courts, filing for bankruptcy. And it got a lot

(42:40):
of people going, well, that's why I haven't gotten my
stuff in almost a year. And now he had to
go on I think it was Instagram and respond and say, hey,
this document that was going around. He brought up a
picture of the document and in big red letters wrote
fake over it and said this is all fake. We're
just slow. We're between distributors right now. Every thing is
still coming and all that just to come out and say, hey,

(43:03):
this is fake. We're not filing bankruptcy. I again, I'm
not saying this is real, but it would not surprise
me because of what Masker Video has done in the past.
That doesn't mean that it's not real. He could literally
just be doing that to save face at the moment.
This is one of those things that it's a tough situation.

(43:24):
What I'm trying to say is it's none of our
business until it is our business once we hear that
something has happened. Yeah, you can try to go get
refunds theoretically through your card processor through masker video if
it is a real thing. But if it's not a
real thing, you'll get your releases eventually. So there's two possibilities.
But causing drama online over it doesn't do anything to

(43:45):
help anybody.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
If this is a cored document, is it not? Is
bankruptcy stuff not a public document in council?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
So it is. And I tried to do the right thing.
I spent an hour researching this and everything I found
was I had to pay to access the documents. I
wasn't about to do that. This is not that important
to me.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
So they did that for bankruptcy because I's like, if it, yeah,
people are criminal, they definitely would have released it.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Catholically, Gary says Warner Brothers should have stepped also, But yeah,
I agree with reservoir. I don't trust masker Video at all.
Like I won't even say as far as I can
throw them, because I can probably throw them like four
feet I wouldn't even throw them one feet, It's not
worth it. Masker Video is somebody that historically has taken

(44:33):
money for pre orders for stuff that wasn't even anywhere
near like replication or authoring, and people would get stuff later.
Everybody needs to just calm down. So much of this
is not that serious. And if one of these companies
is filing bankruptcy, like I said, there are two possible outcomes.
You fighting about it online, is it gonna do anything.

(44:54):
Either you're gonna get your stuff eventually, or you get
a refund, or you fight for a refund. You may
not get it, but that's that's why the outcomes. It's
just one of those things that happens.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
It's why of like with certain labels, it's best to
dial it on a credit card.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Or wait until it's at Orbit DVD or Diabolic and
the only then by the yeah, or just don't support
them at all because they do shitty things.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Well, it's like I don't order I mean, and this
might just be me just because I was never crazy
about Sabby, but I don't order Errow.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Directly from Arrow. I don't remember last time. I just
don't like to.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
I've got I've literally ordered stuff from Arrow and then
it'd be available.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
At Orbit before I ever got it.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Yeah, so I was like, I'll just order from Morbit.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
It's fine. Yes, similar, Yes, Similar is saying that's just
the thing. If someone files from bankruptcy, there exempt from
paying back debts. It's not exactly like that. If they
have a chapter as he supposedly, I don't even remember
that important. No, we don't need to go through that. Rinceis.

(45:56):
It's the news that BS is suing Orbit Fade. Now.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
As much as I don't like Aslop, that is a
thing kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
A couple of them have been funny, and thankfully one
of the person that was making them is in the
chat or sharing them at least I Philip. Uh. Yeah, VS,
as far as I know, is not suing Orbit. But
the live video that the Orbit did is very enlightening
on that subject. If anybody wants to see it, send
me an email. I might have a link that you
can watch it on. Curtin said, just kidding. Uh, I

(46:27):
think that's probably enough trauma for the night. Should should
we go to the announcements?

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Yeah, let's do it. I did already kind of take
a sneak peek, so I didn't know what half of
those were. So I'll be glad and we get to
like the middle section.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Well, I know you know what this first one is,
and I don't think we've ever talked about this one.
So what do you think about Wolf Creek? A lot
of door wolf Creek.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
That's probably I like the both movies and both seasons
of TV show. Excellent.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Damn, I've not seen the show yet. I wasn't asked
about that.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Yeah, it's good. I mean I think it's a cheaply
made show. If you go in thinking it's going to
be high quality television, you'll be disappointed. But it's very entertaining.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah. I love this first movie. I think the second
movie is really great too. At Obsessed wolf Creek is adorable.
Oh that's the last adjective I would have used, But
I like it. Yeah. Imprint putting out a four K
box set release of just the first film. They still

(47:30):
have to put it in a box with multiple cases
on September twenty fourth, coming out of Australia. This one
has no new bonus features, but we got a four
K disc and a Blu ray disc and it's got
the unrated cut on Blu Ray. It's got the unrated
cut on four K, and then there's a third Blu
Ray disc that has the theatrical cut on Blu ray only,
so you're not getting theatrical in four K, just the

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unrated cut in four K.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
You know. I almost feel like Imprint did it the
way they did. They were like, which cover do we
go with? We'll just do both, yeah or all three?
Theoretically considering the kind of made. Oh yeah, sure, yeah,
I love this movie.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I can't pay Imprint prices to get this. As much
as I adore Wolf Creek.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
I feel like somebody else coup bit of four K
out of Wolf Creek if they not a master.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
It's already happened in Germany. I guarantee eventually this will
likely get a four K in the US. Like, come on,
I know that I shit on them all the time.
Shout Factory, give us a four K box out of
the just a double feature of the first two they.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
I think there is because for a long time you
couldn't get Wolf Creek on Blu Ray in the US, right,
I think that's changed. I think I've seen it at
Walmart now, so somebody's got. I don't know who has
the rights to it now.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Somebody does would be nice for sure, But yes, that
is an imprint release coming in September. We had a
couple more Vinegar Synormal announcements that were coming in after
the show last week. So the first one is a
Blu Ray release of fire Maidens of Outer Space. This
one is coming as part of their VS Labs line,
and this is a nineteen fifty six paramount film sci

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Fi very much fits in their their alien invasion theme.
This one is scanning restored in four K and only
released in a Blu Ray package for some reason, even
though this already had a Blu Ray release, which is
kind of odd to me. We got a commentary on
here with Jonathan Rigby and Kevin Lyons. I don't remember
if that's on the oli of disc. I probably should

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have checked. We also got a commentary with Chris Shields
and Sarah Fenson or sorry Fenshm. There's a new visual
essay by doctor Sabina Stent and then a new visual
essay by doctor Benjamin Tucker as well. But I like
this art. This is this is a fun looking release.
I'm not super into the fifty sci fi stuff like this,
But for fans of the genre, honestly, you might have
the old Olive disc. So I don't even know if

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this is something that you would jump on.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
I mean for the cool artwork, I guess I think yes,
I think that's I think that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, it is vinegar syndrome. That is a big selling
point for a lot of people. Although I gotta be honest,
I've not been hot on vinegar syndrome specific artwork for
like a long time. I feel like they've degraded that
quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Yeah, they're not the ones I would put is like
top tier as far as like artwork goes. I think
Errow still does really good with a lot of theirs.
Terror Vision does great with theirs. I've liked a lot
of theirs they come out with, even the sadly that
one that was accused of AI, which I thought was
actually really good.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
But my vote still goes to Radiance.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, Radiance of course.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
One of the most eye catching. And then uh def Crocodile.
AM a little biased, but deff Crocodile has incredible art.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Second site's one that I wish I could sit there
and say a lot of theirs is good and then
lots some of theirs is.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
A little hit or miss, but they put out great releases.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
So I think Second Site has some of the best
discs in the game with some of the worst artwork. Ever.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yeah, some of the floating head stuff is a little
much for me.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yeah, it was all of that doesn't count. That's really funny,
like the Big five people, it's part of all of
films or sand Viper pictures.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Now the Aero Video Speaking of Arrow, their camp Aero
video sale has launched. This is their sixth year in
a row and get up to fifty percent off of
hundreds of uhd's box ats and blues. This ends July thirtieth,
so you got plenty of time. It's on sale in
the Arrow UK and in the Arrow US. The biggest
question I've been getting from people sending me messages on

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this is they're not showing discounts on Second Run titles
anymore like they used to or on Third Window. And
from the same source, I'm hearing the Second Run and
Third Window are not going to be distributed through Arrow anymore,
so those discount days are possibly over. However, as a
counter to that, I will say rare Waves is currently

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running a sale on aero video titles as well, and
some of the prices are even better on the Railwave
site than on the Aero site, So if you're going
to be shopping at the aerosale, you might want to
compare because you can get some better deals. And Rarewaves
carries all kinds of stuff, not just aero videos, so
if you're looking for some of those other ones, they
might not be on sale, but you can say on
shipping get them all in the same package.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Yeah, the only one. I've been kind of curious about
the arrows. I kind of want to get their random
assortment of Friday the thirteenth stuff because those ended up
being pretty good, I think.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Didn't they They're okay, okay, I'm still curious. I don't
know if at least one of them is actually a
four case scan of the OCN. It doesn't look good
enough to be a four K scan of the OCN,
so I'm I'm very curious what happened there. They've got
a couple that are sort of questionable for me, and

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it specifically the Friday the thirteenth ones.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
I just really want Jason Goes to Hell because I
feel like I need to get that one.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I for some reason, I completely understand that about you.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Yeah, I mean right before I got on the show,
rewatched part five and I was like, you know what,
this is top five in the series.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I mean, that's not hard. Yeah, I agree. Next up,
One to one Films over in the UK is hosting
a summer sale. This is pretty much everything is on
sale as far as I can tell. That is not
an immediate release from just in the last couple of months.
One thing I do want to shout out, and they're
even highlighting them here is Never Sleep Again and Crystal
Lake Memories are on sale from one on one and

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if your region free. I don't think either of those
are in print in the US anymore. And I highly
doubt Never Sleep Again is going to be in this
Warner Brothers box that they're putting out. I highly doubt it.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
That would be a completely, completely surprising thing for them
to do. So if you want these cheap, I think
they're absolutely worth it. Now I'm trying to remember Daniel
Farrens is the one who did the documentaries on those two,
didn't they This might be a random question that I
just know for some reason.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I mean that name sounds familiar.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
He wrote Halloween six like, that's kind of one of
his big things. But he also makes that he made
that terrible Sharon Tate movie that had Lizzie McGuire in it.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Oh yeah, Lizzy McGuire. That's funny. Yeah it was Daniel Ferns.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Yeah, ere, guy, I always think it's funny because that's
definitely like the best thing he ever did was those
two documentaries. I was like, you should have just stuck.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
With that man.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
And they're both incredible, by the way, for those that
have never seen it, they are both magnificent.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
What are they like four or five hours?

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah? Yeah, one of them might even be six I'm
gonna be honest.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Yeah, I feel like when I watch Crystal Light Memoirs,
I did it over like a week.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Jason says, I won't be upgrading to the recent Arrow
Friday the thirteenth releases. The transfers are not that.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
That's just the point.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Well, that's good. I'm glad somebody agrees with me.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Yeah, okay, that's good. I'm tay saving me money. Please
tell me everything I want looks terrible for those that
have never seen it. If you're looking to save money
while you're in the sale. Basketball masterpiece of a movie
as well.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Oh I Love Basketball, another of the extreme titles for
fans of all of those. July twenty fourth, Bizarre Theater releasing.
It's putting out a double feature of Sunken Danish and Monstrosity.
These are from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen to brutal,
gory and unforgettable snuff inspired horrors from Denmark. A grotesque
double feature for the truly fearless. This is gonna be

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limited edition, I believe. Yeah, strictly limited to five hundred copies.
Once it's gone, it's gone forever. Check it out for
everybody into the extreme stuff.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Five hundred copies and they just had to put that
giant double feature to separate them, Like I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I mean, they don't have a ton of money for artwork,
but that's fair. At least the movies are getting a release.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Yeah, five hundred is probably a generous on that sounds stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah, they'll probably sit there for a while. I gotta
I gotta admit, what's going on? Sam the Disconnected that's
me posted about Target having a sale this week and
this is this is a really rough week. For sales.
We already just talked about two, and there's so much
happening right now. So Target buy to get when free
sale is happening. This goes on until Saturday night, July twelve.

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They for those that don't know, they carry boutique stuff online.
Not in store obviously, but a lot of the US
boutiques are carried online. Certainly, not all of them. You're
not going to find every title, but Shout Factory has
a lot of their stuff there. Deff Crocodile their standard
editions on Target right now are I think a lot
of them are like sixteen ninety nine. And so if
you buy three Deaf Crocodile standard editions, you're literally getting

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them for eleven dollars a piece. That I mean, that's
incredible for the discs that you're getting. Yeah, more than
worth it. Yeah. So Target is having their sale, and
of course Papa Bezos has to come in and say no, no, no,
we're not letting you steal the spotlight from us. So
Amazon did a matching by two get one free sale.
Of course, while all of this is happening, we've got

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the Barnes and Noble Criterion sale happening still which means
fifty percent off of all of those, and Amazon is
matching that, so you've got sales everywhere for that. And
then of course this week it's also Amazon Prime Daily
Deals whatever they're calling it this year because Prime Day
is now four days I guess ridiculous, But there's actually
some pretty decent deals. I don't like giving Amazon money,

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but there's a couple that I definitely did because I
will never see those titles get that cheap. Check them out.
If you are on social media, I'm everywhere posting the
deals as much as I can. I don't post most
of them on Instagram because you gotta put pictures for
everything and you can't clickly, so it's pointless. But yeah,
go check that out. If you're on other social media,
all the sales have you part taken in any Uh?

Speaker 4 (57:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (57:27):
No, I'm really bad at sales because I think it's.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Because like every time I find out there's a sale,
I found out after I like spent my budget for
what I was willing to like spend because I get
paid on the last day of the month and the
fifteenth of every month, so whatever I'm gonna buy, I'm
gonna buy that if there's nice sales going on, then
oh well, and then I'll be like four days later
like ah should await?

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Well the fifteenth is this next week, so yeah, a
couple of these will still be going on. Yeah, next up.
Speaking of second run, they're putting out Who Wants to
Kill Jesse? From nineteen sixty six on August twenty fifth
on Blu Ray. This is from the director of Three
Wishes for Cinderella, and it is a delightfully demented, absurdist
nineteen sixty six comic book fantasy that is unlike anything

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else in the Check new wave and presages the DCA
Marvel comic book franchises by several decades. This is a
new HD transfer by the Czech National Film Archive. There's
an early comic short film by the director, presented from
a brand new HD transfer. There's a projection Booth commentary
episode with Mike White, Jim Laskowski, and Jonathan Owen. There's

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a visual essay by Michael Brooke on Crazy Check Comedies.
There's a book of new writing by Czeck cinema expert
Jonathan Owen. New subtitle translation all kinds of stuff to me. Eventually,
this is a must own for sure.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
I want to know how Second Run got this away
from Craig. It feels like it went man.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Craig says, no comment and this doesn't count, so take
that for what.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Yeah, I was just reading Animated by Check New Wave.
I was like, sounds familiar, been here before?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yeah? Uh next four K release coming from Keno of
Taiko yitd's a boy from twenty ten.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I really like this movie. I'm glad this is coming
to four K. Have you seen this one?

Speaker 4 (59:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (59:21):
I see.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
I think this is the only take a movie I
have not seen.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
No, wait, I haven't seen that last one he made,
so I haven't seen this one or his last one?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Was the last one? Was that the soccer one? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Whatever it was called.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
I don't remember the title, but it looked very like
Hallmark Channel.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't interested. He's had He
had a weird career after he won an Academy award.
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah, that and like being forced to do thor three
and that not doing well seemed to knock him off
as ro.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Oh that was thoor four. Ragnarrock was actually good.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Oh that's right, that's right. Yeah, sorry, everyone forgets the
dark World. It's fine, I completely it doesn't exist. The
next announcement from Vinegar Syndrome, which I'm gonna be honest,
this was the most exciting announcement for me of the
full subscriber week from them. As part of their VSA line,
they're putting out a Nick Millard action collection covering from

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nineteen seventy seven to nineteen eighty five. This is going
to include three P fifty seven magnum Alcatraz, Breakout, One
Armed Warrior, Street Race, and Shotgun. They had announced previously
that they'd acquired all of Nick Millard's films, and I
believe after this, which includes five movies, by the way,
for a very very reasonable price, I will say for

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what they're putting out here, and I usually don't say
that about Vinegar Syndrome, So yeah, it's a pretty good price.
This is I believe nine titles that they've released from
Nick Millard now, and from what they said at the beginning,
I think they said they had fifteen, so I think
we have six more coming from him eventually. Not sure
how those are going to come out. It could come
out as three double features, they could put out a

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six film set as another VSA or just a regular
VS release or who knows, but I believe we have
six more coming from Millard.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Still, I might pick that one up. Actually, I'll take
movies like that. That's fine. Yeah, it sounds worth the price,
at least I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
So these are newly scanner restored in four K from
the sixteen millimeter Negatives, which is really cool commentary track
with the author Brian Albright for three fifty seven Magnum.
There's a newly produced documentary in the Life and Films
of Nick Millard that I'm kind of really excited to watch.
We've got an interview with Valerie Willard, the daughter of
Nick Millard. There's a forty page book coming with this,
by Brian Albright and Charles Devlin. Yeah, to me, this

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is a win of a release. It looks really fun.
It's only a two disc set and they're putting five
films on there. However, the five films are each right
around an hour long, so I don't think it's going
to dig into like compression issues or anything like that
too much. But yeah, check it out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Gigabyte disk. Uh, this is a Blu ray.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
This is a Blu Ray, not a four K, so
I believe they will be using fifty gig discs for this. Yeah,
this is exciting if you like little budget action stuff.
Watch the trailer. At least these look really fun, really fun.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I like it's trashy seventy stuff basically, right, Yeah, I'm been.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
That seventies and I think the was it, Yeah, seventy
seven to eighty five, so right in that era. Next up,
another sale. I think this is still going on. I've
not checked, but MVD was running a label sale on
Aero Video, Blue Underground, Full Moon Feature seven, MVD Rewind,
and MVD Visual. There's a couple other random things that

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they were throwing in there, but if you want to
check it out. They had a big banner on top
of the website and they had stuff as low as
literally two dollars and ninety eight cents for Blu rays,
which is a crazy price.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
I think that was last time I ordered from them.
That's that was the price of how stuff was going on.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Geez.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Yeah, they do some crazy interior cells for stuff like that,
but yeah, lots of stuff on sale for that one. Uh,
this is so funny to be Kenot putting out a
four K someday The Rock in Walking Tall, and everybody
responded by saying, well, what about the original one? Unfortunately

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that's not happening. Brand new HDR Dobe vision master on this.
If you want to see the Rock in four K,
this will be your opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
I feel like the Rock might be the actor who's
been featured most on a four K disc. He's got
to be up there. But oh, it's either the ham
or Marvel. But that feels like cheating.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Yeah, Marvel, like, oh you know what, Samuel L. Jackson
or Scarlett Johanson probably what, God, I would love to
know the answer to that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
So now I've got something for the next time I
show up. I'll have like a spreadsheet and everything just
posted here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Yep. All right, Well that's enough Walking Tall. Uh. The
next release from Vinegar Syndrome this last week was five
Dead on the Crimson Canvas from nineteen ninety six. This
is from there. The Gousser line now to Gausser line
is basically for like the low five releases that they're
putting out. Theoretically, many of these have been either shot

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on film and edited on video, or a couple have
been shot on video entirely. This one was shot on
film and edited on video. I believe this is newly
transferred and restored from the best surviving tape master though
unfortunately a commentary with the writer, director Joseph F. Parda,
and Joe's Asso. If that name sounds familiar to you,
Joe's Asso is the one featured on A Terror Vision

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Lost in the eighties collection. They did a collection of
Joe's films, So if you check that out and you
were into it, hey, you might like something here attached
to it. But essentially this is a low budget like
NYC version of a Shallo aally I would have never
guessed I'm into seeing this. I have not bought it yet,

(01:04:49):
but I'm into seeing it for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Look it's cool cover. I'm into it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Yeah, it's nice art. Next up, this is not even
available for pre order yet, but we already got to
look at the US release of the Superman four K
Steel Book, and Warner Brothers is doing one of the
pet plastic sleeves that you lift up on this to
open up the chamber for Superman to be able to
be visible in the ice caves here. I like this release.

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It looks like there's going to be literally like four
or five different designs for Steel books all over the
world for this one. If you're a DC fanboy, they
are going all in on Superman and it's going to
be a major smash hit. Be prepared if you want
options on this one, because it's going to be crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
I'll wait for the Man of Steel one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I'll be Craig, you know what I mean. I'm just
describing the aesthetic there. Yes, Fortress of Solitude.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
You bet. Kevin Smith isn't in the comments. We'll just
have to let Craig do that for us. Let me
the Kevin Smith here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I gotta be honest. I'm not swimming in the DC
fountains all that much. Although I am seeing Superman this weekend,
I'm not one that worships it. I know it's called
the Fortress of Solitude, but it's kind of funny. Anyways,
Let's go back to the classy stuff. September fifteenth, Studio
Canal over the UK releasing a special collector's edition four
K release of The Graduate from nineteen sixty seven. You've

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got a classic film starring Dustin Hoffman that most people
have seen, have bought at least on one or two
formats before and now coming in Studio Canal, putting all
of them to shame with what looks like a really
great release.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
I have a question, how do people feel about Like
I hadn't kept up with the Studio Canal, like how
people feel about it? I kind of like these covers
they're doing like this style. I think a few of them.
I dig it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I adore them.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Okay. I was just like, I'm so like, sometimes I
feel lost when I hear people like in the community
talk about heart. So I'm like, I think these are
pretty nice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Again, iou yeah, yeah, I think they're I think they're classy.
It gives it a I don't know, an air of
you know, let's we're giving this some reverence in a way.
Pretty happy with it. But yeah, as Sibner says, this
will be on four K from Criterion eventually, you can
count on that. However, nowadays, I trust to you a

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Canal more than four K for their discs for sure.
This will be a three disc set including the Simon
and Garfunkle soundtrack. There will be a sixty four page
booklet with new essays from Christina Newland, David Jenkins, Helen
O'Hara and Simon Brew. You get two posters with this
the original art and then this new art that they did,
which is pretty cool. You get audio commentaries by Professor
Thomas Kepner. You get Mike Nichols and Steven Soderberg on

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the commentary that was poured over, Dustin Hoffman and Katherine
Ross on the third commentary, and then on the bonus
Blu ray. There is all kinds of extras here, meeting
with an author, Charles Webb on one with Dustin Hoffman,
interview with the producer Lawrence Turman, the graduate looking back,
and all of these are all archival extras for sure.

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And Sibner, no, it will not be ninety dollars, will
probably be fifty bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Wasn't there what was it Elephant Man where it had
that like statue or something with it. It wasn't a statue,
it was like something. What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I know they did Mulholland Drive was big that they did.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Maybe that was the one. It was something Lynch they
did that I know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Was a likely. I think it was Mulholland that they
did that was huge. And then they also did the
Conversation that had.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
The fold out thing and the pop up and the cassette.
Yeah that's how it was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Yeah. Uh. Maybe the weirdest announcement of the week coming
October seventh, Vertical Entertainment putting Out Guns Up, the action
film starring Christina Ricci and Kevin James. I'm gonna be honest,
the trailer for this didn't look that bad.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
I just think, like I like Kevin James and Becky
I actually thought he was I liked both of those movies,
and I didn't expect to kind of an odd career
turn for him, so I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Yeah, it's definitely an odd career turn. I had somebody
comment and ask, this is so funny, but did Happy
Madison produce this movie?

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
That'd be awesome. Actually, come on, Happy Madison produce some thrillers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
I mean it looks kind of fun. It's just a
weird look and cover. I think if people give the
trailer a chance, you might find something you like in it.
Simitor says, why does Kevin James look like common? He
kind of does, You're right. The Elephant Man had a
pop up of the hospital. It was that body shouting out.
The third Man was a big pop up of the
Ferris Bill too, so the pop up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Things just big for them. Okay, I'm getting that now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Yeah, I think if I remember, I think the mohalland
Drive had like a seven inch vinyl with it or something.
I don't remember it was. That release was like a
longer release too, if I remember right. Anyways, carrying on,
the last announcement from Vinegar Syndrome for this week was
the worst kept secret of the week and that is

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a new Leaf from nineteen seventy one getting a four
K release from the Cinematograph line. This had for about
I don't know, four minutes a bundle that you could
purchase with the book Mismade Does Not Exist by Carrie Kurrigan.
This sold out very quickly. However, to everybody that wanted
the book. You can buy it on Amazon and it's
even it's cheaper than it was on the Vineger Center website,

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so you can still get it. It's not like it's
gone forever. Good look in art, I actually like the
art for the Cinematograph. I usually don't like their art
all that much, but I think this one looks pretty
good and fits the comedic tone of this pretty well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
It reminds me of Parsonic an old lace like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yes, very much so, especially that back cover. Yeah, so
this is a two disch set. You got a four
K and a blu ray. We got a new commentary
by kJ Ryth Miller and Maya Montagne Montaignes Smuckler, the
author of Liberating Hollywood Women Directors in the Feminist Reform
of nineteen seventies American Cinema. A new interview with Kerry Kurrigan,

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the author of Mismad Does Not Exist that I just
talked about. A new visual essay by Alexandra Heller Nicholas
called Looking for Elaine May. There's an hour long post
screening discussion between Elaine May and her frequent collaborator conducted
at the film at Lincoln Center's Walter Reed Theater in
New York City in two thousand and six. Some other
archival stuff that had been ported over, and then of
course new text essays from Sarah Fence, some critic Elaine Alazak,

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queer historic critic, queer historian and critic Willow Caitlin Maclay,
and then a critic editor Hannah Strong, as well as
a previously published piece by Richard Brody. So there's all
kinds of stuff coming in this fun looking release. I've
not seen the movie, but one that I have meant

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to for quite some time. I actually really like Walter
Mattho and this is a fun looking cast. I've heard
it's great. But our next one refuse films or refuse
films over in the UK, however you want to pronounce it,
whether you have British or not. July twenty eighth, they're
releasing three more Blu rays. The first one is cat

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Sick Blues from twenty sixteen. If you've heard the name
of this title before, it's because wild I put out
a DVD of this that was on sale. I do too,
right right there. This DVD has been on sale for
like two bucks for years.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Basically, Extra Dimensioned Extreme put it out too, I think
in the Yeah, I think that was one of their titles. Yeah,
I remember, And I have a funny story about this.
So when I first started, uh my Instagram where I
used to just post things I bought, this was probably
about six or seven years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
I had posted this this one on there.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
And the internal cover, because it's a clear one, shows
like the scene where like the dude is getting a
like a I don't know what I'm allowed to say
on YouTube a flatio from a decapitated head, and the
direct commented on it and said provocative cover art. It's
so the only time I ever had a director comment

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to me on anything that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Corinsis what is coming out of the cats pants? You don't?

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Why watch it and find out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
The answer is? Yes, Mondo's here? What's up? Mondo? Just
got my MVD sale package. Couldn't be happy with my
thirteen dollars Blue Underground four k is Goddamn, that's cheap.
How are they thirteen bucks? That's crazy? Geez so Katsick Blues.
We actually got some stuff to cover here, just like
Refuse has done on all of their releases so far
they've done I think this is their sixth, seventh, and

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eighth releases. These are fully loaded. These are pretty much
everything you could want. There are three audio commentaries for
this film, deleted scenes, documentary short films, tons of music videos, trailers,
all that stuff. This is the director's approved uncut version.
It's region free, so you can watch it anywhere in
the world. But the big thing that I don't know

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if this is two two public yet it was confirmed
over in my discord that there's a US release of
this coming soon, which because of who said it, I
believe that it will be coming from an OCN partner label.
So if that excites you, you may want to wait on
that person.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
I expected Craig to get I can't believe it. It's
a cat movie. We didn't get it from Deaf Crocodile.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I don't think this is up Craig Sally sadly what
I would get to what I would bet ahead of time, though.
I don't think the OCN release is going to even
have half of these extras. This is so much and
that artwork. I get it just for the artwork. I
was like, it's pretty great. Monto says, grabbed ten of them.
They were dirt cheap. That's crazy. If they were thirteen bucks,

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that is wild. Their four k's are top notch. Geez Okay.
Katsick Blues is the first title, the second one off Ramp.
This is from twenty twenty four, limited to two thousand units.
It's got a twenty four page booklet and this is
what they call a Juggalo road movie. This has four

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different audio commentaries, including a Juggalo commentary, Craig says, I'm
cat crazy, but they're a littit. The rest of this
release is crazy. We got deleted scenes, a full documentary,
four different behind the scenes featurettes, and then one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten different interviews, three different trailers, and then again the

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director's approved uncut version. All kinds of stuff coming in
this and for what they charge for these releases, like
you can get all three of these for like seventy
dollars on brother Blile right now, I think, or seventy
three something like that crazy content that they're putting on
all of these to make them absolutely worth the cost.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
I might have all three of these, I bought anything
from them, but I'm liking at least what I'm saying here. Yeah, click,
nice stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Well, and to finish out, if this is gonna be
what Entice is, somebody rock and roll Frankenstein from nineteen
ninety nine is the third of the modern bundle that
they're doing. By the way, I don't think I said this.
They're calling this a series one line, so it seems
like they got more stuff coming like this soon again.
Twenty four page book lit in to two thousand units

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This is a two K scan of the director's uncut
version in wide screen. You had an SD video master
of the director's uncut version in full screen if you
want that. An audio commentary, three different archival materials, making
of commentaries, sorry, making of documentary, outtakes, another documentary, some
new interviews, multiple music videos, some short films, trailers, and

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easter egg tons of stuff. Liam, who runs the Refuse label,
puts absolutely everything you can in these releases. These are great.
I don't know if people know these films or are
fans of these films. I know Katsik Blues is well known.
I don't think i'd ever heard of the other two.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
But and you're right at seventy seven on bul Al Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
That's pretty great. And with Brother Blile, if you pay
one hundred dollars, it's free shipping. I mean, you get
one more release, and you're getting four films free shipping,
and three of them are this loaded. That's a pretty
crazy value.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
Oh wow, I just looked at the Wolf Creek one.
Never never mind on that Jesus, that's pricing for you?
How much is it there? Like ninety five seventy nine?

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Oh honestly not as bad as I expect it. It's
bad for me because if you buy it directly from imprint,
it's like one hundred dollars. Do you have a sure this? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Cannot do it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
All right? That is Refuse Films. Seven has finally started
revealing the titles coming in their summer sales, so we're
gonna be talking about I think four of them tonight.
The first one getting a four K release from seven
is the film Baskin from twenty fifteen, the worldwide four
K premiere with three plus hours of special features. You

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get an audio commentary with the director. You've got a
ten years later featurette trailers, a bunch of short films
which actually really excite me. Basket. You say, good movie.
How much do you like Basket?

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
It has been a while since I've seen it, so
I don't want to like speak like please go see this.
But when I watched it when it came out a
decade ago, it was probably one of my favorites for
that year.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
When it came out, it was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
So you and I see eye to eye on a
lot of things. This is absolutely one of the Basket
is incredible. This is a fever dream of a movie
that I feel like this is who maybe a weird take,
but I feel like this is the closest we're going
to get to, like a proper modern take on a
hell Raiser style of story. On what they could have

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done with some of it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
I really really love the makeup effects in this movie.
The acting is surprisingly good. It is. It is just
really well done. I appreciate this movie so much. I
will absolutely be wanting this four K. Originally not in
the sale maybe because it's not gonna be on sale yet,
but eventually I definitely want this Turkey Oh gee film.

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I think it's Turkish or like Estonian or something like that.
Does it say in here? It probably does. Josh says
saw Basket at the US premiere that that would be
incredible to look back on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Oh absolutely Turkish.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Okay, Turkish. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
So you say it comes with some shorts. Does it
come with the short film with it? Because apparently that
is based on short film.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
It does come with the original short film. It also
comes with to My Mother and Father from twenty ten,
my grandmother from two thousand and eight, the chest from
two thousand and seven, and Screws from two thousand and six.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
See. Yeah, I feel like if you get releases like
this as a boutique, you feel you should feel some
responsibility to get some of these things out there, Like, yeah,
there's no way to see these other things, probably half
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Anyway, everybody is confirming it's Turkey in the County and
I appreciate that, Thank you. Yeah, I'm dying to rewatch this.
The thing I will say is most of this movie
is very dark, and this will look incredible in four K.
The detail that you'll be able to see in those
dark scenes is going to be amazing. And then there
are some scenes that are pretty you bright also, So

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I'm very curious to see what this looks like. This
will absolutely be on my wish list for when it
goes on sale sale from seven Yeah, I'll pick it
up then for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Next up one that I will not be purchasing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
I can't believe it took them this long to get
a Scarface release out. My god.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
The one and fourteenth version of Scarface is coming out
as an Amazon exclusive four case deal book in the
US soon. The date I'm seeing could either be like
November or January ish on this one, so we're getting
a four case deal book with new art, and the
new art's not bad. It just my art.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Pisses me off because we've had so much good art
from Scarface as forty five years.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Literally, what I was gonna say, it's not it's not
bad art necessarily, but it's the same freakin floating head
thing that we always see.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
Like the most like one of the most iconic eighties
posters is the black and white one with like I'm
not somebody who says you can need to put the
original post jar, but if you're gonna give me the
choice between that and the original post jar, then give
it the original post ards.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Yeah. So the big thing here is this thing is expensive.
So to pre order this on Amazon is seventy five dollars,
and after.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
The Kingdom of Heaven thing, I can't just assume it's
gonna go down in price now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
No, And I should say the reason it's seventy five
dollars is not just a four case deal book. Yeah,
you're also getting a metal poster with a magnet wall mount,
which is cool. I like that they're doing that. There's
a numbered certificate of authenticity. We don't actually need that.
And then a collectible box again.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
I love the authenticity thing. My my, the David Gorengreen
Halloween steel Book has it too, and I'm like why,
like why is this the thing?

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
So making these.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Everybody that just absolutely adores Scarface. Yeah, we're gonna get
this seventy five dollars. Cool, this is a big thing. No, Craig,
you don't get any cocaine with it. Sorry, but this
is do.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
Like a coke coupon, like a for Coca Cola twelve bag.
That would be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
It would be really funny. That would have been great.
H So, Scarface, this has been a beloved film for
forty plus years. People have wanted this, most people own this,
all that stuff. But to match it, they're putting out
the exact same style of release with five nights a
fucking Freddy's.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
It's like, all right, we got to get the people
who are thirty to forty, and we need to get
the twelve year olds. We've got both.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
We're good. Oh man, this is hilarious. So on October seventh,
they're doing again a seventy five dollars bundle release of
five nights at Freddy's four K steel book and it
comes with, yes, a metal poster with a magnetic wall mount,
a number, certificate of authenticity, and a collectible of course
pizza box.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
And you know what, I guarantee you this sells out
before Scarface. Somehow, this will sell out for Scarface.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Do So the big thing, let's be realistic here. These
are both coming from the studio in the US. That
is very weird to have a studio put out seventy
five dollars premium boutique style releases for both of these movies.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
Did they get lines get limited numbers and say we
can do that too well?

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
And they're both Amazon exclusive, so they're they're shipping the
money to Bezos at the end of the day. But
the big thing is, you can smell this from a
mile away. These are a test. If these do well
and they both sell numbers, you are going to see
a lot more of these from Universal and they're literally
just going to be a new steal book, no new extras,
in a collectible box with a metal poster. And so

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if these are showing up in a bunch of hauls
on other people with those same ah clickbait YouTube pictures whatever,
and you're seeing a lot of them show up in October.
You're probably gonna be seeing more of these from Universal
in you know, six months.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
And I mean it's complicated because, like I like the
idea that Universal wants to do better packaging. That's cool
because I think they're slip covers or atrocious though, that's
that's great. This is weird. It's just so weird. Like
at least when Lionsgate Limited did it, they said, here's
the here's the conversation. It's like, oh cool, here's Apocalypse Now.

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That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
I gotta be honest, do this do this for a
title that you've never put out on four K? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
Something like a lot more exciting. Yeah, Like I mean,
I know the conversation. Probably they didn't have a release
before then. I was that its first four K. I
can't remember it had the four K from Studio canal
Over in the UK, but it was the exact same package.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Yes, yeah, first US release.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
Yeah, I mean that's that's pretty exciting. I mean, sure
they did Apocalypse now, which is they did yeah, which
has had you know, one hundred releases, but you did
that second, not first.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Yep. Yeah, this is this is one of those things
that yeah, you can smell it a mile away, and
I'm not I'm not against the studios doing something like
this again. I'm fine with them doing deluxe edition releases.
I want them to even I want to see that
physical media is alive and well, however, to choose Scarface

(01:24:58):
the like up there with Halloween and Texas Chein saw
Mask credivil did as one of the most exploited pieces
of merchandising ever for a film, and now Five Nights
of Freddy's I get this one because there's a sequel
about to come out that doesn't surprise me. But do
it for a new movie?

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
Yeah, and I mean the thing that's kind of caught
with Scarface, like the four K of that one looks
really good at least my memory last time I watched it,
so it's not like it needs a new.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Cells.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
Yeah, and it's like, sure, yeah, you probably don't need
another scan of this, but you need something like I'd
be way more enticed if you got an interview from
f Murray Abraham at this point, like, just give me
something like, I don't know, do something different with it.
I mean, I know what they should bring back is
the old DVD used to count how many times the

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movie said, fucking how many bullets were fired? Bring that
feature back that was awesome. Include the old PS two
game with it. I don't know, do something.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Cool, give us the fuck shot cut.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Yeah, so yeah, it's weird. Like again, I agree with you,
we don't need a new scan of Scarface necessarily, But
like Craig just said in the comments, all of the
manufacturing of like a magnetic wall mount, you could have
you could have gotten people to do a commentary for
Scarface for free. Would have probably recorded another commentary, right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
There are so many people that would have lined up
to talk about how formative this movie was for them
in film school.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
You still have Oliver Stone and de Palm is still alive,
Like get them to go and they talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Do anything for it. Like the re releasing of these
things is getting so tired. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
Yeah, And I mean, like I will say, like to
at least put a little defense towards the metal sheet.
That's a perfect type of thing to post Scarface because
of the merchandise that's coming. That makes sense to me.
The Five Nights at Freddy One's kind of weird. I
was like, I don't know, that doesn't scream fourteen year
old boy in the two thousands like Scarface.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
While true merchandising for five nights of Freddy's is crazy.
That's everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
I've just out of touch with the children. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
I want to point out this hilarious comment from Jay Webber.
This says Scarface should come with a soundtrack on mini
disc and call it to Say Hello to My Little
Friend edition. That's really good. Josh saying difference with Scarfaces
that those other films you mentioned are owned by smaller
labels who are probably being floated by catalog sales. Universal
doesn't need that for the most part. Sure, but Universal
has got plenty of titles that have literally never been released.

(01:27:29):
So give us, give us something. I mean, they've got
stuff that deserves a four K. Put it to that.
You'll sell more of them. I guarantee it. So many
people already have Scarface on four Hell, don't.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
They also have some Alford Hitchcock films. They're all getting
four K. It's come on, push a weird one out there,
like something.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
And yes, Ronnie doesn't five Nights at Freddy's mostly appeal
to kids. Why is seventy five dollars release for that?
Because They're trying to appeal to the parents who will
buy it for their kids, or the.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
Kids who know how to sneak into their parents' credit card.
That's how Fortnite is stayed successful. That children, if there
is somehow someone under the age of twenty five in here,
don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
The joys of having an app store that you can't
get refunds after two hours or whatever. Earlier we were
talking about Warner Brothers being a problem with not showing
final art. This isn't Warner Brothers, but look at Universal
doing the same thing to catch on art not final
art anyways. September fifteenth, four K release. Over in the UK,

(01:28:29):
they are doing Casper.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
We talked about Casper last week getting a four K release.
We know all of that, but.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
They're going above and beyond over in the UK, just
like we were just talking about these special bonus editions,
kind of like I just held up a clueless Casper
is getting one. This is going to have all kinds
of these little paper goodies. If you want it. You
got a rigid slipcase with new artwork, two disc gloss
steel book, forty page book of previously unseen production notes,
which kind of cool for Casper. You got a double

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sided poster and art cards, individual, really numbered edition and
exclusive to two thousand units.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
It's thirtieth anniversary, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
Yeah, so I guess there, What are they doing like
one of these a year that actually be kind of cool?

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Yeah? I mean yeah, because Clueless was clueless ninety four?

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Ninety five?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Clueless was ninety four. I think maybe it was ninety five.
Where'd I put it? Now, curious.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Somebody didn't get it in the comments.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Say it says thirtieth anniversary across the top, so h yeah,
that's Paramount doing thirtieth anniversary. We got Universal doing a
thirtieth anniversary and move into our next one because it's
exactly the same style. The conjuring getting one of those
fancy releases over in the UK from Warner Brothers. Now
this is going to come with the film in four
KM blu ray, a steel book, rigid slipcase, a double

(01:29:51):
sided theatrical poster, five double sided character cards, six behind
the scenes cards, eight page Warren booklet, hiding clap game instructions.
I didn't know we needed instructions for that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
And then this is the funniest thing to me a
sticker that is classified as the based on the true
case files of the Warrens sticker. That's an interesting one.

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
This is this is something I'm curious about. How do
you feel about art cards? And I just don't want them.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
I think they are mostly pointless. I do, however, have
a little photo album that fits up to five by
seven's that I used to put some in that way
they're all in one place you can look at them
all together. But the reality is I'm never gonna touch them.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
Yeah, because like even my Fallout steel book I got
it came with art cards. They couldn't fit it inside
the case, so it's just like taped outside the case.
I was like, okay, thanks, I'll lose these later. I guess, yeah, yeah,
that's that's kind of it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
And this is where I really feel. And I talked
to Craig about this, So, Craig, if you're still planning
on doing this, I'm sorry for it publicly because now
it might get stolen. I really wish like one of
these boutiques that loves art cards or does very stylistic
art card choices, like Deaf Crocodile. I wish they would
release like, well, I just said, like a I don't

(01:31:16):
even know what to call it, like an album for
an art card album that is branded, Give us one
that says deaf Crocodile on the outside, has your logo,
and it's fit. It's perfectly sized for the art cards
that you do, and so every time we get them,
we can put them in there and have all of
them for all of your releases. That'd be pretty fun.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Yeah, I mean, because you know, I remember Second Sight
used to do posters, and I actually like, I don't
use the posters either, but they fit better like the
art cards. I'm like, I just have six individual art
cards that I don't know what to do with now. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Craig says, I used to include postcards.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
They were actual postcards. You could actually use them to
send them to someone. I did send one of yours
to somebody, I think, Craig, I think it was a patron. Anyways, Yeah,
I wish a boutique would do that. I feel like
it would make sense. If you're somebody that always releases
art cards, just give us one that give us an album.
Make it something that we can buy that you know,
it costs you ten dollars to manufacture and you sell

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it to everybody for twenty It would actually be useful.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
I would actually buy that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Sasha says, I would so buy a branded art card binder.
Have been wanting to display minus some way and not
just keep them stashed inside the releases exactly let them breathe.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Craig, you need to do that for your trading cards. Oh,
that would like a little bonder. Yeah, because I got
mine all over the place. I need to like get
them all together.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
We're going to talk about the conjuring a little more
in a minute, which is why I didn't spend too
much time on that one. But welcome back, I promise.
July twenty ninth, the US release of The Phoenician Scheme
is happening. This is the new Wes Anderson release. It
is coming on four K from Universal. This is going
to have Dolby Vision and HDR on this. We got
a Dolby Atmos soundtrack behind the Phoenician Scheme featurette. There's

(01:32:59):
a couple other futurettes like the Cast Airplane, Marseille, Bob's
Ja Ja's World. But that's it. I love seeing all
of the comments saying, oh look, we're gonna wait for
the Criterion releast, sure, but when is that gonna be
like twenty thirty seven.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
I think that's like the annoying thing with the box
that coming out. It's like, you know, if Wes Anderson
had said, hey, I'm retired, I'd be like, cool, that's
a great idea for the box. It's like he's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
I would have loved them all. Yeah, I again, did
you see this one?

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
But you know, I've given up on Wes Anderson about
like four movies, guys. Yeah, I used to watch all
of his stuff because when I first got into the film,
everyone's like, you know this is this is like the guy.
You know. I got into Criterion, so I had a
I had Moonshine Kingdom, and then I think I got
to all of the dogs and I'm like, why am
I doing this to myself? I don't like any of them,

(01:33:52):
like I just keep watching them, and so I haven't
watched one since. So it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Yeah, I saw this one of the theaters. It was fine.
I'm the same as you. I've not loved anything Wes
Anderson since Fantastic Mister Fox. So we'll see and yet
sibboners comment the release of this is probably sooner since
Indian Paintbrush bought Criterion. That's quite likely. I can't argue
with that. It's just odd that they're releasing it widely. First,

(01:34:20):
just make your money if your company owns it, put
it out on Criterion only, same people are going to
buy it. Oh look at that. Sasha just said exactly
what I just said with you on Wes Anderson. Zach
haven't liked anything since mister Fox.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
Okay, good? So usually usually I get more pushback on
Wes Anderson. I'm not a worship for I promise. The
Accountant Too came out this year and the crowd went mild.
This is coming on four K on August twelfth. Of
course you'll have a regular Blu ray release. You'll probably
get a DVD release as well. No extras on this
at all. I'm sure you did not see The Accountant Too?

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Did you see? Then? Oh you did? Yeah? I like
the first one.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
I actually like this one quite a bit. Excuse I'll
be leaving for getting it wrong. I'm sorry, now you're good. No.
I'm a big fan of John birth Thall, so I
was into it. He's in it. More than the first one.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Interesting. Yeah, I quite enjoyed the first one. I don't
know why. It was just it was a good time.
Craig says, no digital air brushing on those faces at all.
I want to know what in the hell they did
to give Ben Affleck like, I don't know, like some
crazy like John Goodman chin or something.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
Do you remember when Interstellar came out with that terrible
steel buck and everyone's like, what happened to Matthew McConaughey's face.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty bad. The Accountant had as
much silly backstory as an entire trilogy in one movie,
says Jay Weber. That's I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
Yeah, yeah, Batman versus the Punisher, That's that's what I
was there for.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
And Sasha says The Accountant isn't really a name that
screams action, but sounds like these are fun movies. How
would you how would you describe the first Accountant movie?

Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
Fun is a weird word. Yeah, they're very they're confidently made.
They're definitely in that post John Wick got big, but
they're they're a lot more grounded than John Wick. Is
Ben AFFLECKX really good in it? Surprisingly? He you know,
he seems to take the part pretty seriously and it
could have really, it really could have ended badly depending

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on how he portrayed the character. So I mean, I
think they're worth watching. They're not high that not top
ten action of the New decade or anything, but they're good.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
I had somebody before I saw the first one said
this movie is basically what if john Wick but autism.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
Yeah, that's pretty much it, and that is not meant
as a slight on autom It's literally a discussion point
in the film. Yeah, and they they And honestly the
second one, I think they kind of I haven't seen
the first one since it came out. I've literally seen
both of these in theaters and that's it. So I
feel like they go more into it with the second

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one than they did the first one, especially because it's
got like more of a familial aspect to it. So
you know, it was enjoyable. I had a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
I'll watch this. It's definitely a try before I blind
by it on four K sort of situation. But I again,
I'm really jad the first one. We talked about this
one a long time ago. I think this was announced
like last year. Let's not spend a lot of time
on it, but I'll ask your opinion on the movie.

(01:37:32):
July twenty first, Cape Light, who operates kind of everywhere
in the world, which is a really hard thing to
nail down sometimes. They are working with Altitude Film in
the UK to release Capoti from two thousand and five
in a media book edition. There's nothing new on here.
It's just a two disc release with all of the
same features as before. It's gonna have twenty four page

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illustrated booklet in it. How do you feel about Capoti?

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Never seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Never seen it?

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
I've never seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
I gotta admit, does seem like a movie that Zach
would like.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Okay, then I will watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
I will.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
I will definitely let me add it to my watch
list right now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Yeah. Hoffman is incredible obviously in everything. But yeah, this
is one that everybody should see. It's a good movie
and it deals with subject matter that you would appreciate
for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
Okay, cool oh and cold Oh and cold Blood. I've
read that book funny enough, so I don't know why
I didn't put that together.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Yeah, Sasha says, Ooh, I'm so down for nartistic action movie.
We talked about this title last week as well, so
I won't spend a lot of time on it, but
I finally got the details September ninth. We are getting
a four K steel book of the anime version of

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The Girl Who Left Her Time from two thousand and six.
This is coming from Shout and g Kids as far
as I can tell so far, not labeled as an
Amazon exclusive, but I can't find a listening for this
anywhere else. They might have popped up since I posted this,
but at the time at least, this was not on
the Shout website, not anywhere else, and everywhere that they're
selling this site it is only Blu Ray, So I

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feel like this is gonna be an Amazon exclusive for
this format, even although knowing Shout, they'll probably release this
on their website in like six months and you can
get it everywhere then.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
So didn't they have like an exclusive on another one
of theirs, like last year or something.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
I feel like they've done that before, but.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
I'm not into this enough to like know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
What that format or just the steel book itself, the.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
Steel book being exclusive to something.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Oh, they they do exclusive steal books all the damn time.
They did best by exclusive they've done Walmart exclusives, they've
now been starting to do Amazon exclusives. But the hilarious
thing is literally six or eight months later they show
up as a wide release everywhere else and on their
site through their distributor.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
So gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
And then a reminder for anybody who likes the story
of the Girl Who Left Through Time, the original Obayashi film,
The Girl Who Left Her Time is getting a release
from cult Epex here soon and be on the lookout
from that. Look at that. Connor Holt is at VHS
Fest in Pennsylvania. I'm stoked for that, Connor. I hope
you're having a good time. Connor's will be writing about
that for the next issue. The physical media ad a kid,
So I cannot wait the next one. Oh my god,

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have I heard this movie is atrocious? August eleventh, the
UK is getting a Blu ray release of The Ritual
from last year. Yes, this is the Ritual starring Al
Pacino and Dan Stevens, the two people that I always
think of teaming up in an Exorcism movie.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
I want to know how they did it, like, honestly,
I want to behind the scenes of how they convinced
them to do this movie, like that would be way
more assuming. I mean, it would take a lot. I
feel like, at least for something.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
Yeah, I've heard this is bad. I would love to
hear what everybody thinks in the chat. But yeah, this
I don't know. Ashley Green is intriguing that she's in this,
but I don't know. I don't know how excited I
would be to see this.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
You know, I've always thought this idea was interesting because
it comes into a lot with like exorcism movies. But
somebody brought up one time. I wish I could remember
who was so I could credit them properly, because its
not my idea that The Exorcist was so good that
no other movie could do an exorcism movie properly somehow,
like you don't see that with anything else. But for
some reason, if you see an exorcism movie, there's a

(01:41:26):
ninety nine percent chance it's garbage.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
And it's so weird because it should be fairly easy
and the hard part, Like I am this close to
saying sure, but what about the what was it called
the Last Extorcism? I love that movie? And then I
don't know about you, but for me, the last ninety
seconds the entire film. Well, and the only other one
I would say is up there with like the Exorcist.

(01:41:50):
I mean, I guess been kind of Exorcists three, even
though originally there's not supposed to be an exorcism in
that movie, but whatever, celebrate movie and the Exorcism of Emily,
and that was twenty years ago. Yeah, it's decent.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
Yeah, and then Pope's Exorcists, which didn't do that, just
went weird with that, which I appreciated. But that's that's
like it that I can think of.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Yeah, and look at that. Jay Weber says, the last
the last actiorism. It does rock, It's great. I just
I want to turn it off three minutes before the ending.
I just wish they had filmed an alternate ending and
we could.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
I wish they just had the balls to do what
they set up. Yes, that's all I wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
I totally agree with Sibner. Please stop making the tea
in a title across and or putting a cruise fix
upside down. It's the same thing. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
The next title from Severn this is coming on Blu
Ray is part of their summer sale, which I don't
think I mentioned this in the last title. It starts
on July twenty fifth, so we'll be talking about that

(01:42:51):
as this goes live on the Reconnected. For that night,
they're putting out Monster Shark aka Devilfish by Lamberto from
nineteen eighty four. This is the title that people have
kind of wanted for quite some time. This is the
European version of the movie, scanned from the original camera negative,
and it will include a bonus soundtrack CD. There's an

(01:43:12):
audio commentary with Steven Scarlatta, Josh Miller, and Matt Mercer
on here. They call him John Old Junior. There's a
discussion with Lambert Obaba, interview with the actor Michael SAPK
trailer soundtrack CD. I definitely want this eventually because I
love shark movies. But I definitely will be waiting for

(01:43:33):
an actual sale on the on the the new title, that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
Looks like something i'd bout a seven sale for seven
ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
Yeah, I mean, I'd spend a little bit more on it,
but yeah, it's usually like I probably would not be happy. Yeah,
I would definitely want to see this one. Lambert Obaba
is pretty fun for the most part. He's not the best,
but fun, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
What you're getting.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Yeah, exactly, speak you know what you're getting a lot
of people don't know what they're getting here because this
has been so hard to see for so long. It
is finally happening September sixteenth, four K blu ray and
funny enough, Keno is putting out a DVD release of
Nights of the Juggler from nineteen eighty. We had talked

(01:44:18):
about this when it got announced, but oh my gosh,
here it is four K scan of the OCN new
HDR Dolby Vision Master, brand new commentary with Steve Mitchell
and Nathaniel Thompson. And usually that's enough for Keno. But
Night of the Juggler is a big deal. So did
they stop there? They did not. There's a new interview
with James Brolin, new interview with Julie Carmen. There is

(01:44:42):
an inquest into Sidney J. Fury's Night of the Juggler.
For those that don't know, Sidney J. Fury was somebody
that was supposed to be am I getting this right.
Let's see before I say that, Yeah, Sidney J. Fury directed.
This was all f in order. He directed like the
first ten to fifteen minutes something like that and then

(01:45:05):
got pulled from the project and was replaced by Robert Butler.
So the the Sidney J. Fury experts, mister Daniel Kramer
did this visual essay on here talking about Sidney's contributions
to the film, talk about that highlight some of his scenes.
This is really freaking cool that we're finally getting this,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
I think it's really cool that they went out and
got all those extra interviews, but they really should have
saved their money and did a metal poster.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
A seventy five dollars release from Keno. Yeah, again, that's
really cool.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
I'm gonna watch I have never seen this, I don't
think it seems like a lot of people haven't and
say I watch it. It seems interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Josha. Listen to a Night of the Juggler and Salute
of the Jugger double feature now that was released in
that one. Yeah, Umbrella announced that one last month. So yeah,
this is exciting and it's obviously a big deal for
Keno because this movie has not had a disc release ever,
so this is a really big deal. They're even doing
a theatrical rollout for this film, So check QUNO social

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media if it's playing anywhere near you. This would be
really fun to experience in the theater for sure. Next up,
we have talked about this before, but we finally got
art in a release date. Karate Kid's Legends is coming
out on four K and Blu ray and DVD all
on August twenty six. This is the four K steelbook art.
It is also coming out as part of that giant

(01:46:28):
six movie Amazon exclusive collection that's very expensive. I think
the preorder that on Amazon is like two hundred and
twenty five dollars or something for six movies.

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
There have been six karate Kid movies.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
There have been six karate Kid movies, and at least
one of them has Jaden Smith in it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
Wow, I'd rather get the remake for Nightmare on Elm
Street on that WB release that's not official.

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
Give me the art for it too.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Yeah, I supposedly this movie is atrocious. It's basically just
the karate Kid again.

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
I literally heard no one say a comment about it, Like,
not a single human being has mentioned this movie to me.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Karin wanted to shout out a good Exorcism movie, Requiem
from two thousand and six. I have not seen that.
I have not either, but I'm gonna add it. Huh.
Weber says, I wish people wanted to subsidize my retirement
like they want to subsidize Ralph Munty. Oh that's such

(01:47:28):
a good comment. Oh that's perfect. All right, go to
our next one, because that's way too much time already
on Karate Kid's Legends. Radiance announced some titles this month,
coming on Blu Ray on October thirteenth. This is a
UK only release. We got the film Pocket Money by
Francois Truffau from nineteen seventy six with art done by
friend of the channel, Sam's Myth, which I love the

(01:47:50):
design on This feels very true, Faux nice and colorful.
Love the purples here. Trufau is great. This one HD
digital transfer. We've got on set footage with Truffaux in
the cast, interview with the director Truffaux from seventy five,
interview with the curator Soneil Joshi from twenty twenty five,
trailer commentary by the filmmaker Alan r. Kusch. We got
French and US trailers. We've got a limited edition booklet

(01:48:13):
with Truffau's written introduction to the film and you can
pick that up with limited to three thousand copies. Next
Radiance is the title I Freakin' Love Daughters of Darkness
from nineteen seventy one, getting a four K release from
Radiance Blue Underground of the four K in the US,
so this is UK only. This will also have a

(01:48:35):
standalone Blu Ray release. Now. The cool thing is, I
have loved all of Radiance's deluxe hard box releases that
they do, and this is one of them. The art
on here, I think leaves a little bit to be
desired because it's not really shining a light on the
beauty of the women in this movie as much as
they could be. This beauty is sumptuous, and the art

(01:48:57):
on this is it's good. It's just not, you know,
not quite to the level that it could have been.

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
I will say, for anyone who's interested in it, it's
probably one of my favorite four k's I've ever had.
It's a gorgeous movie.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Really is. It looks incredible, very atmospheric movie, just beyond
beyond great. This is the same restoration as the Blue Underground,
so you can be willing to bet that it's going
to be great. This has Dolby Vision HDR and we'll
also have a Blu ray presentation of the movie. We
got a bunch of new features here though, that is
really cool. We get a commentary with the authors Virginie

(01:49:33):
Love and Lindsay hlam Do, an interview with the director
Harry Kumel by the critic and Bilson, some archival extras.
We've got on set footage with the director, behind the
scenes footage, an interview with Kim Newman discussing the film,
The Daughters of Darkness, Class Cruelty, and the cinematic legacy
of Bathree, visual essay by Kat Ellinger. We got a

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short film that is five minutes long by the director.
We've got another short film from nineteen sixty to seven
minutes long, and then an eighty page book on this
with a bunch of new writing. I again, I've already
got the Blue Underground. I don't necessarily need this, but
the new extras are very close to making me want this.

Speaker 4 (01:50:12):
Yeah, I'm tempted to pick it up. And I mean
I actually, I actually think it's gonna be one of
those artworks that I could see looking better in hand
than it does.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:50:22):
Yeah, But like Karin says it right here, I love
this bobblehead on some toddlers shoulders.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
I hate the art so much.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Yeah, that's honestly the biggest problem with it, because I like, Yeah, honestly,
that's one of the times you can float her head.
It might actually be better.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
Yeah, and this is what I'm getting out. Gary says,
it doesn't even look like Delphine. Yeah, that's the the
I don't know. The the imagery in this movie is
what is iconic. And to fumble that big head is
I don't know. That's that's a problem on the cover.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
No, I've said this, and if I've been on eleven shows,
I've probably said this in seven of them. If they
want a good four K of a of a movie
that has not got a Vampire Empire movie that hasn't
got a four K release, they could do Velvet Vampire.
Then I would be much happier.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
I would love somebody to do Velvet Vampire.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
The movie is great. It's a gorgeous looking movie. Like
it's it's a shame somebody should release it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
I agree. Next from Radiance, this is a UK release
coming on October thirteenth, and a North American release coming
on October fourteenth. This is a blu ray of the
same director who did Daughters of Darkness. This is I'm
probably gonna butcher this again. Don't know French Melpetui, that's
my guess. I don't know that makes sense better. I've

(01:51:38):
not seen the movie. The art on this is pretty great.
I really hope this is evocative for the film. I
think this is really good. Again I mentioned earlier, I
love Radiance's art. I love this one. This is an interesting,
interesting sort of release. We got a new four K
restoration of the film, overseen by the director, commentary by

(01:52:00):
the director, and the ad on this as well from
two thousand and five, new interview with the director, new
interview with Jonathan Rigby. We got an archival doc on
the making of the movie with the director, some actors
Orson Wells has a piece in this movie, and there's
a feature d on the casting of Welles, including rare
outtakes from two thousand and five. There's a bunch of

(01:52:20):
other archival extras. Looks like a really solid release again,
all kinds of stuff. There's also the Can cut of
the movie, the rejected version of the film which premiered
in Can. There's an early film from the director as well,
called The Warden of the Tomb from nineteen sixty five.
That's almost forty minutes long again, eighty page book, and

(01:52:41):
it's all coming in a hard box. This is a
crazy release for this movie.

Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
I mean, I'm probably gonna at least look up the
movie because I like, I've only ever seen Daughters of Darkness,
so same, Yeah, so that'd be really worth seeing what
else he's done.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
Yeah, this looks great, and if it's anything like the
artistic direction behind Daughters of Darkness, I will love this movie.
And then finally, I believe this is the last Radiance release.
October thirteenth in the UK and October fourteenth in North America.
A Blu ray box set Diee Gothic Volume two Japanese

(01:53:18):
Ghost Stories. Did you get the first one or watch
any of those?

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
No? I have. I have really held strong. I'm not
getting Radiance releases yet at all. Correct. I've almost got
Miami Blues because I love that one. I actually feel
like I'm in a good spot to get them because
now I don't care anything about getting like the limited
editions because I've missed so many of them. Yeah, and

(01:53:43):
I'm like now I can just like feel okay getting
standard editions are feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Yeah, so the if you wanted to get the first
version of the Die Gothic box set secondhand, now it's
like one hundred and twenty bucks plus. Unfortunately, but you
can get standard edition of each of the films for
Radiance thankfully. The first one is a great box, really
great films. This one has a demon of Mount Oa,
the Haunted Castle, and I'm not sure if I'm saying

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this right, the Ghost of Casane Swamp. These are all
from nineteen sixty to nineteen seventy, all newly restored in
four K. Lots of stuff. Here we got a newly
designed box and booklet with the artwork by Time Tomorrow
eighty page booklet. There are extras on every release, including
new interviews, some archival entries like this is really fun stuff.

(01:54:33):
I truly love what Radiance is doing.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
Yeah, one day I will find the cave.

Speaker 4 (01:54:39):
And because I always like looking at their releases, Ada
Adams speaks highly of them.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
I love Aaron's comment here. It's really humbling to really
want to watch a release, fail to watch it, and
then volume two of that release comes out. Absolutely. Yeah,
Adam from They Lived By Film loves Radiance. They're pretty
much his favorite label, right.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
Yeah, I think he's still complete on them as of
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
I mean their slate has been largely incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Yeah, I mean, oh, what is That's an interesting title?

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
The next title for the Severn sale Blu ray of
Skinheads from nineteen ninety three. This is by director Claudio Fragaso,
which if you've been paying attention to Severn for the
last ten years, you've heard that name quite a few times.
This has a feature leg documentary with the director, with
the co writer, with some actors and a whole bunch
of other people involved in that. That, other than a trailer,

(01:55:38):
is the only thing on this disc. But it's a
full length, in depth documentary, so that's pretty cool. I
have not seen this, but I've heard this is pretty
good and very curious to check this out. A movie
called Skinheads by Claudio Fragasso sounds like a lot of
things are going to go wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:55:59):
Hopefully else would you watch it?

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
On that note, going to our next one, bring Her
Back from this year, is getting a four K and
blu ray release from A twenty four. These are shipping
in August. You can buy them from their website now.
Now I don't know this for sure, because it hasn't
been revealed yet, but A twenty four has been releasing
all of their titles over the last year or so

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through retail widely, so you'll probably be able to pick
this up from Orbit, from Diabolic, from Brother Belisle, from Target,
from Walmart, at Barnes and Noble, all kinds of places,
which is great. I'm glad they're doing it and putting
actual distribution behind the titles. It gets a lot of
people to be able to purchase these because shipping internationally
from their website is astronomically expensive. This one has a

(01:56:45):
director commentary with the Philippo brothers. We've got a featurette
called coming Full Circle making Bring Her Back. And then,
as usual, they are putting postcards in their box sets
like they always do. You got six of them bring
Her Back? Did you get to see this one?

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
It is X it is very very good.

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
I'm so glad, so glad that you like this.

Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
Yeah, I did, And you know, I like I've had
a couple of different eight twenty four ones. I wish
they had done all of them in this style because
I like it way better than the oversized Green Knight,
and yeah, Mitzmer. I have those two and I like them,
but it's like they're they're kind of cumbersome.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Yeah. By the way, Josh Utato is the one that
wrote one of the essays for Green Room, which is
one of my favorite movies of all time. Is excellent
as well. The movie is incredible, But Josh, great job
on the essay. Sasha says, love the fucking shot out
of this movie. Me too. I think this movie is incredible.
Love the that they're going with this artwork. This poster

(01:57:44):
has been evocative the entire time, So very happy with that. Yeah,
this movie is not an easy watch. It's a very
depressing movie, very different from Talk to Me. But I
will shout out one thing that I said about Talk
to Me is exactly the same here for Bring Her Back.
The sound design and this movie is next level. If

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you if you've got a really great sound set up
at home, this movie is going to shine in that way.

Speaker 4 (01:58:11):
Yeah, I will I like this. I like Talk to Me,
but I actually like Brang Her Back more just because
where I work with kids for a living, I really
thought they nailed like kids in foster care that I've
I agree very very well.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
I agree there We got a comment question from Karin.
Will there be an announcement every day from seven until
the sale, Yes, except for on the weekends. They will
do one every single day around the same time Monday
through Friday. They're gonna have ten new titles that they're
announcing before the sale, and then they've also revealed that
there will be four four K upgrades during the sale

(01:58:46):
that are gonna show up later that are not included
in those tens. So actually a ton here. Fourteen new
releases for seven if you count the upgrades. That's a lot. Yeah,
that is all. Let's see. Sally Hawkins deserves an Oscar
nom and won't get one, absolutely true. Yeah, she is

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crazy good in this movie, all right, so let's bring
her back. Just announced today, the next Severn title is
Dead Sleep from nineteen ninety. This is the worldwide Blu
Ray premiere of Linda Blair starring in Dead Sleep. This
is based on a true crime story out of I Believe,
New Zealand if I remember right, Australia, Sorry, out of Australia,

(01:59:29):
about the real life Chelmsford Hospital horror that led to
twenty four deaths and stunned eighties Australian rock the world
of mental health care forever. This movie is going to
have an interview with Janet fife Yemens, co author of
Deep Sleep, Harry Bailey in the Scandal of Chelmsford, and
a visual essay on this on the medical melodrama subgenre.

(01:59:50):
What's hilarious is it is not on the medical melodrama subgenre.
They definitely screwed up the copy here because this visual
essay was written by Bud Wilkins from Slat mag, directed
by my buddy doctor Wildottson, then edited by myself, and
the visual essays really fun. This movie is wild. It's
not like an extreme movie or anything like that, but

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the fact that it's based on a true story and
the stuff that they get to into on the extras here,
I personally think this one's worth the watch. I like
true crime stuff though, and mental health is sort of
my background entirely. This movie is is worth a watch
in my opinion, and a lot of people upset Linda
Blair is not on the disc. She doesn't care about
her movies. She even like she questions why people watch

(02:00:33):
The Exorcist still, so she was never gonna talk about
dead fucking Sleep from nineteen ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:00:39):
Come on, Honestly, Like, if you didn't talk about the
Exorcists at all in your life and then suddenly you
just talk about Dead Sleep, I would respect the hell
out of that. Yeah, it's like the one movie you'll
talk about, like, yeah, Dead Sleep, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
That would be hilarious. So she's like, you know, this
changed my life, this is everything. Oh, look at that.
Danny filmed the interview for the extras. I thought it
was filmed very well. The editing was not great, but
I did not have fun to editing that she was
a talker. Thanks Corran. Appreciate that Jaxson's I keep hoping

(02:01:14):
seven does a four K upgrade to Beyond the Darkness.
I kind of expect that to happen eventually because that's
like a quintessential Severn title. So I bet that does
happen someday soon. And once week I get a click
on the wrong thing next up. Kind of an odd
release with one of, in my opinion, the worst pieces
of art for the week. Battleship Petempkin, which is celebrating

(02:01:38):
its one hundred year anniversary, is getting one hundred year
release from BFI over in the UK on September fifth.
This is going to have a score by the Pet
Shot Boys on this. Yeah, you got the Pet Boys
soundtrack on CD coming with us. No new extras as
far as I can tell, other than a railer going

(02:02:00):
with the music and stuff. Yeah, it's one hundred year
old movie with the Pet Shop Boys. Yeah. The cover
art on this is weird.

Speaker 4 (02:02:13):
It's a choice.

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
It's very much a choice, but it's authentic. Don't tell WB.
Speaking of WB, we got some details on The Conjuring,
which we didn't have the first time I posted that
deluxe edition. So all of the four K releases of
The Conjuring that are about to be coming out are
going to include a new featurette called Scariest of them All.

(02:02:36):
The casting creators of The Conjuring take a look back
at some of the greatest scares of the series. I'm
covering what made these films so iconic, and then new
reflections on The Conjuring. More than a decade after the
release of the original movie, the cast and crew of
The Conjuring reflect on their experiences creating one of the
most legendary horror series in history. Everything else is archival,
but we actually are getting new extras for The Conjuring,

(02:02:57):
which kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (02:02:58):
I have a question, is that one where it explores
what made the series so iconic? Is it like four
seconds while they just say James Wan and it just cuts.
We figured that out with the third one. It was
James Wan.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Oh that's funny, but no, they probably say more that's funny. So, yeah,
that is The Conjuring. I'm glad that it's coming out.

Speaker 4 (02:03:25):
I do wish I know they probably who put out
the Steel Book years ago where it was the noose
was embossed.

Speaker 2 (02:03:32):
It was like the famous post that was heavy.

Speaker 4 (02:03:34):
That was it. That's actually a really great steel book.
I wish they would just do that one again. Exa
I I agree that. Yeah, the tree poster is iconic
for that. Yeah, all right, h Next, we got a
few uh not.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
These weren't even like announcements. I just found these on
their website, so we know that these are coming soon.
We're getting a Blu ray release of The Strange Woman
from nineteen forty six. This is coming as part of
their limited edition line. This movie is by Edgar g Olmer.
We got Douglas Sir, Ketty Lamar, George Sanders, all associated
with it as well. This one will have a slipcover.
It will be including a full color booklet inside as

(02:04:10):
well with an essay, and it will have a commentary
bar by Bernard M. Pro Cop. These are gonna be limited.
It'll be a press disc. That's all it'll have though,
is a booklet and a commentary, not a lot more.
But it'll look pretty good. Filmasters does good stuff on
their releases, so I'm glad to see it coming. Next.
One up, one that I never thought would get an

(02:04:31):
HD release, Tarzan of the Apes from nineteen eighteen, is
getting a Blu ray release from Filmmasters as part of
their archive collection. It'll either have a two K or
four K scan. There will not be any extras on there,
but it will be including subtitles and that's it. It'll
be a press disc. Just nothing crazy, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:04:51):
In fairness to those I usually would criticize that, but honestly,
it's like we put the movie out, there's literally nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:04:57):
Yeah, and it's literally one hundred and seven year old movie.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
It's like, this isn't nice fat to take it and
leave it? Take it or leave it?

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
Yeah, exactly, that's literally it one hundred and seven years old.
And we're getting an HD upgrade that is impressive. Next one,
same thing. This is coming from their archive collection and
it is Patterns from nineteen fifty six. This is Van
heflin In Rod Serling's Patterns again two K or four

(02:05:28):
K scan, no extras, but it will have close captions.
One that a lot of people seem to be responding
well to when I posted this today. It's when Fred
Staples is recruited onto the board of a high powered
New York corporation. He finds his ethics and ambitions at odds.

Speaker 4 (02:05:44):
I kind of want to see this one. This looks
pretty good, trot Sterling. I would watch it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
Yeah, absolutely. Anchor Bay still around of putting stuff out.
This is the of course New Anchor Bay. This is
such an odd the nose title for a film. Twenty
twenty three's Young Blondes Stocked and Murdered is getting a
Blu ray release on November eleventh here in the US.

(02:06:10):
This actually sounds pretty decent. Got good reviews at a
panicfest here in Kansas City. I believe it was last
year when it played. I would love you. Oh it
is a new movie, yeah, twenty twenty three. It'll have
a commentary on the disc. That's pretty much all that
Anchor Bay is doing nowadays, sadly pulp. Yes, Diabolic DVD
does carry film masters. Usually they don't necessarily restock them

(02:06:32):
a lot, but yes, they do carry them. So Sasha
wants to know what this is about. It says in
the sprawling shadows of Hollywood, young blonde, stocked and murdered.
Follow Stacey, a young, aspiring actress fighting to be seen
in an industry that demands perfection and rarely offers it back.
Every week she endures another series of auditions, another random,
vague rejections. She's told her look isn't quite right, her

(02:06:53):
hair isn't quite blonde enough, or worse, she's just forgettable.
The roles she dreams of are elusive, and her rip
on reality begins to pray. When word spreads of a
mysterious serial killer praying on young blonde actresses, luring them
in under the guise of casting calls, a strange shift
occurs in Stacy Psyche. She doesn't just fear she might
be next, she begins to crave it. The killer becomes

(02:07:15):
an abstract figure of validation, the only one in Hollywood
who sees young women like her and chooses them. The
horror of the situation folds into Stacy's own emotional unraveling,
creating a surreal tension between dread and desire. This actually
sounds kind of decent. I gotta be honest.

Speaker 4 (02:07:30):
And Adam Hersey has given it a sale of approval.
He gave it four out of five when he saw
it Panicfest.

Speaker 2 (02:07:36):
Yeah, and it sounds sounds decent. And if Adam is
into it, I've liked pretty much everything Adam has been into.
I will say. Sibner says, skip it and watch Starry Eyes.
I adore Storry me a great movie. Ragnar We already
talked about this night. A Living Dead is not sold out.
Diabolic DVD is sold out of their lobbmin. It's a

(02:07:58):
wide release. It'll be everywhere. You'll be all right, go.

Speaker 4 (02:08:02):
Bug your local Walmart and just like make them get
it from the back because they take like four days
to do that now, even though it's not coming out
until August or not August, like October or something.

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
Just telling me you're taking a say you'll leave once
they get it for you.

Speaker 2 (02:08:15):
Yeah, it was one place. I don't even know how
Diabolic got their pricing so quick. I'm very curious about that.
I think this is the last announcement for the week.
Dazzler Media over in the UK putting out The Glass
Worker from twenty twenty four, an animated movie that sounds
really great. It says, in a picturesque seaside town, rich
and sand in tradition, Vincent, an apprentice glass blower, works

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alongside his pacifist father Thomas at the renowned workshop. Their
serene world destabilizes when war looms and a strict army
colonel and his violinist daughter Alise arrived. As Vincent and
Ali's forge a deep bond, conflicting family allegiances and patriotism
test their love, forcing them to confront the brutality of
war and the power of art. This looks like they

(02:08:58):
have not got great US distribution for this film at all,
but this is getting a four K release in the UK,
and I am so stoked that a current, very modern,
very unique sounding animated film is able to get a
release like that. That is just exciting to me.

Speaker 4 (02:09:17):
Yeah, and especially because it's easily the best animated film
of the year.

Speaker 2 (02:09:22):
Yeah, I've read that somewhere. I don't know, but I heard,
and not only that, easily the best animated film of
the year.

Speaker 4 (02:09:29):
Yeah, no, no competition here.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
So that is it for this last week of announcements.
Let's take a look at what's coming out next week.
Flick Rallies, Champagne and Caviar, a four comedies box set
coming out. We got Shane on four K from Keno,
The Adventures of Antoine Dwanel from a Criterion coming on
four K. Frailty four K from Lionsgate Limited showing up

(02:09:54):
for excuse me for everybody in the last couple of days.
Fury four K getting its steel book release. That's been
up created to have Dolby Vision, the standard release of
the four K of that AI restoration bull Crap release
of Walls and Grommet. The complete crack and collection is
out there. That'll be on the Stars four K from
Shout RoboCop two four K steal book from Shout That

(02:10:15):
Weird Cover Goolies three Goolies Go to College getting its
lines get limited release. The Surfer four K lines get
limited as well. Devils Sword rely has been shipping from
TerrorVision as of the last couple of days, which is great. Finally,
I've been dying to get that disk in hand. Rolls
Royce Baby and Satanic Sisters the first releases from Delirium
Videos going out for many people. They are arriving without slipcovers,

(02:10:39):
so be prepared if you go crazy if they don't
show up with slipcovers. Exclusive from Keno coming out next week.
She Kills Sands of the Kalahari from Keno. We got
Manifest the complete series about to drop. That literally just
went up for pre order, so check that out. Children
of Violent Rome also shipping from TerrorVision. Eager to see
that movie in hand. Good lord, people are not ready

(02:11:01):
for that one either. Crumb Catcher from Aero Video, the
Original Three Stogies and Stop Looking Laugh from Sony Pictures
is coming out. First Love from VCI the Actor, which
I'd really wanting to see. I gotta check that one out. Still.
The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill from Keno. Kind of
curious to see that. It looks really fun. Queen's a
drama from Altered Innocence is one of my big picks

(02:11:22):
for this week. Definitely eager to get that one in.
And Black Tea from Cohen Media Group. Not a huge week,
but we got some big stuff coming up. In the
following weeks. So anything that you're interested in getting here soon, sir.

Speaker 3 (02:11:35):
I will probably end up with the Surfer.

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
I really enjoyed that and I like Frailty, so those
would probably be my two choices.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
Yeah, I'm kind of waiting until I can get one
hundred dollars and get free shipping from Lines to get
limited for that next one. Yeah, solid looking week and
eager eager to see some of these. But now I
didn't even mention this beforehand. Our discussion tonight we are
having one that I've been eager to have since we
decided on this top for quite some time, because I
really love this and I don't know how I've not

(02:12:03):
had this topic yet on the show tonight, we are
discussing serial killer movies. Now, Zach, what makes a serial
killer movie different from Scream or Halloween or something like that.

Speaker 4 (02:12:18):
You know, I was putting some thought into that because
a lot of times it just I'd hate to put
it down to a vibe, because I don't think that's
a that's a good definition. But I do think there's
like a distinct difference. I think both. I think there
is like a nice little like Venn diagram that like
goes really close together, but they never quite overlap. But
you know, they both obviously have a lot of similar

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things you have someone stalking. I think there is a
more overview, look like almost like an objective view when
you're looking at these Some of them are true crime,
some of them are based on true crime, but they
they tend to lack a little bit of the intimacy
maybe you get from h slashers. I'd also say slashers
are a lot more definable. They had so many tropes

(02:13:02):
and so many, so many beats that are just so
well known. They're a lot easier to identify. Were serial
killer movies, I don't know. They're a little bit more
free from that. So I would say those are kind
of the big things for me. I would say are different.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
Would you say slashers are really easy, like to put
on a list to share with everybody, And.

Speaker 4 (02:13:19):
I would say so said about that, Yeah, Yeah, I'd
say they have enough beats to where you could make
a list where they're all in common. And I think
everybody would agree with that list if they read it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:32):
For those that don't know the joke, the discord has
been hopping this week with all kinds of discussions, one
of them about Slashers. If you want to join the discord,
check out the Patreon link of in the description below.
We'd love to have you because the discussion has been
very busy over these last few days, and I am very,
very curious to see if we have because I'm willing

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to bet we're gonna have a lot of crossover here
because I know that we have kind of similar tastes. Yeah,
but I made a list of fourteen, so I've got
a handful of honorable mentions. I got a list of
top ten. We're gonna go back and forth going through
a ranked list as usual. I'm gonna try to say,
if one of us says the title and the other
one has it higher on the list, let's wait for

(02:14:16):
the discussion until the higher spot, so we'll tell the
other one if we have it up higher. I have
a feeling, though, I'm going to piss some people off
with my ranking. I've got stuff with that lower or
not on the list that people are gonna be like,
what the hell like it's one of the best ones ever,
It's just not my favorite. So let's get started. What's
what's your number? Ten? All right?

Speaker 4 (02:14:37):
So I'm pretty sure my number ten is, but let
me make sure I get it right. So number ten,
I will start with nineteen ninety seven's Cure.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
I'm already going to piss some people off, all right,
Oh wonderful, I'm tell us about here because it is
not higher on my list.

Speaker 4 (02:14:53):
Okay, So Cure is one that I did not like
the first time I watched it. I had to go
back and I think we talked about on the podcast
when our podcast was really bad, So don't go listen
to that episode. I have no idea what I said
during that episode, so I can't back any of it up.
Here's an interesting one for me because I think it's
going to bookend really well with my number one, and

(02:15:15):
I probably end up saying a lot of similar things.
But the thing I like about it is there's this
sense of there's a sense of mystery to it that
doesn't necessarily have a clear answer. I think it goes
a lot into like a morality idea, and it kind
of explores the idea of randomness and in a serial
killer type of setting, and it almost has like this

(02:15:37):
airiness of like supernaturalism to it, and I really appreciate
that I really need to get the criteria in four K.
I don't own this movie, but I do need to
pick it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
Up, so Cure is not on my list. And what
is hilarious is you just scared me into like do
I have to watch this again? Because I've only watched
it once. I I do not understand why Cure is
so loved. I watched it and I walked away feeling
like nothing. And the sad thing is so much of

(02:16:10):
Cure I thought was going to be my jam and
then it just didn't land. I really now, I just
was I having an off day, and it's actually me
that was wrong. I think.

Speaker 4 (02:16:21):
I think there is a sense of the app to
where it is so sold, especially through Criterion audiences and
things like that. It's a really good movie. It's it's
really really good to me. But I can also see
it having like weird expectations, like I weirdly get it.
Like I've heard people could try to, I guess, try
to sell it compare it to seven. It's like it's
nothing like seven. Seven's a whole different sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (02:16:43):
It's a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:16:44):
It has the surrealist nature to it, and I think
the first time I watched it. I was like, I
am not in the mood.

Speaker 2 (02:16:50):
For this, and seven is like, literally it is telling
you exactly what it's trying to tell you.

Speaker 4 (02:16:55):
Yeah, it's like, yeah, they both have serial killers in it.
What they have in common?

Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
Yeah, anyways, a muted color palette maybe.

Speaker 4 (02:17:06):
Yeah, yeah, but I'm very different directors doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:17:10):
But yeah yeah, yeah, quite different directors. Yeah, Cure it
was fine. Uh, I know, Wave, I don't think it's
too subtle. I'm totally into subtle stuff, which you'll find
out through some of the other stuff that I'm going
to cover tonight, although a lot of these are not. Actually,
now that I'm looking at it, my list is very

(02:17:30):
not subtle.

Speaker 4 (02:17:32):
You could accuse me of not liking subtlety. I think
it's for cowards.

Speaker 2 (02:17:36):
I think it can be for sure. I get that.
But yeah, here's fine, I need to rewatch it. Everybody
else is probably right. Ten is hilarious because you just
said it, I have I have seven at ten? Is
that higher on your list?

Speaker 3 (02:17:49):
It's not on my list?

Speaker 4 (02:17:51):
Yeah, yeah, but I'll talk. I'll talk about it though
we're pissing everybody off. Seven obviously, is starring Brad Pitt
and Morgan Freeman. By the way, I know everybody always
goes back to Brad Pitt in this movie. I think
this is Morgan Freeman's movie. He is incredible in this film.
Absolutely like what grounds this movie and what makes it

(02:18:13):
not only believable but like substantive in a way. This
is Fincher's movie from the mid nineties that people go
back to because it's before he got like a little
more heady with everything else that he was doing after that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
And yeah, seven is great. Follows the Seven Deadly Sins.
We got John Doe taking people out. You don't see
the killer until very late in the movie, and then
you find out it's a very famous, terrible person. And yeah,
I think this movie's great. It's top ten for a reason.
I love this movie. I just think there are a
lot better serial killer movies than this. And not that

(02:18:49):
this movie like doesn't age well or anything, but it's
just I don't know, like true crime has become its
own genre since what ninety five when this came out
or whatever, and since then, the way that we discuss
it and portray it has been changed, and so like
the mystery factor here is really cool. I like it
a lot. The ending of course is iconic. But this,

(02:19:12):
I mean, this isn't even my favorite serial killer movie
from Fincher.

Speaker 4 (02:19:15):
I was about to say the same thing as like,
Fincher did it better later.

Speaker 2 (02:19:17):
That's all right, So we're gonna we're gonna be talking
about another Fincher's movies later on both of lists. Yeah, seven,
seven is great. What do you think of seven?

Speaker 4 (02:19:25):
Oh? I like seven, and you know it's it's one
of those it's this let me just go ahead and
piss people off. It reminds me a lot like Taxi Driver,
where I really like that movie. I think that movie's great,
but it comes into the same issue where I think
like Schrader has done that movie better since then, and
I appreciate it when I was first getting in the film,
I'm so glad I saw it. But you kind of

(02:19:46):
get like you see how influential it is, and sometimes
that's fine. Like I put, Halloween is my favorite movie,
and it super influenced the eighties, even though things could
arguably that they did it better, they did it more
unique or whatever after it was adult hat. But I
think both of you know, when you look at something
like seven and you see Fincher kind of go back
to that later, and then you see Schrader go back

(02:20:06):
to taxi driver later.

Speaker 3 (02:20:08):
That feels different.

Speaker 4 (02:20:09):
It feels like, Okay, I can do that idea better,
and they did successfully.

Speaker 2 (02:20:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:20:15):
Yeah, I would agree with that entirely, and we'll talk
more about that a little bit obviously. So number nine,
number nine, I'm actually hoping you do not have this
one on your list. I was really proud of putting
on here. It is going to be mister Brooks.

Speaker 2 (02:20:30):
It's one of my honorable mentions. I love this movie.

Speaker 4 (02:20:32):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (02:20:35):
I love Kevin cost so yeah, it had to be here.
Go ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:20:38):
So for anyone who hasn't seen it, because I saw
this in theaters, like I was thirteen when this movie
came out, so I don't know why I was in
the theater see, but there's a specific scene in it
that stood out to me.

Speaker 3 (02:20:47):
So I for anyone who doesn't know what it's about.

Speaker 4 (02:20:48):
Kevin Costner plays like your Dennis Raider type of guy.
He's a he lives a pretty normal suburban life. On
the side, he kills people because he has like a
basically a sexual gratification and it sort of thing. But
a cameraman who's played by let me make sure go yes.
Dane Cook finds him doing this and says, you know,

(02:21:10):
either I'm gonna turn you in or you're gonna take
me on one of these like serial killer things.

Speaker 2 (02:21:14):
Yea, and so.

Speaker 4 (02:21:17):
Kevin Costner reluctantly does. The only scene I remembered before
I rewatched this last year, and this stood out to
me in the theater. I can't tell you why is
when he takes Dane Cook to the killing and Cook
pisses himself. I don't know why that got burned into
my memory as a child.

Speaker 3 (02:21:34):
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (02:21:35):
But every time I for thought about mister Brooks, I
thought about that scene, and I rewatched it last year
and I was like, this movie rocks.

Speaker 2 (02:21:41):
It's so good, it's so underrated. Love that movie, wild Cast.
I love that the two leads are who the two
leads are. You would never expect either of them to
be in those roles, and they both work so well.

Speaker 4 (02:21:56):
Oh absolutely yeah. Like, I don't trying to another Kevin
Costner movie where he really plays like the villain, like hardcore,
maybe yellows like kind of. I haven't seen Yellowstone, so
I can't pitch in. But I mean that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (02:22:13):
Yeah, I adore Kevin Costner, so yeah, this was absolutely
this is This was like I technically rated fourteen of them.
This was my number twelve, so it was right there. Yeah,
very close to getting onto the list my number nine.
Curious if you have this one, Man Bites Dog.

Speaker 4 (02:22:30):
I do not have this one. I have seen it
that it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (02:22:33):
So Man Bites Dog is a masterpiece from nineteen ninety
two of a just crazy movie. This is a film
out of Belgium that is a found footage movie that
is essentially a mockumentary of a serial killer. This movie
is set up to be like really darkly comedic in

(02:22:58):
many of the scenes, and it's literally just a couple
of people following a guy killing people and eventually they
sort of get egged on and dragged into some of it.
And the way that they the dialogue just coming across
as very cold and like nonchalant about the atrocities happening
in front of them is shocking. There's one scene with

(02:23:20):
an old lady that was burned into my body forever.
There is like this another scene in like this rubble
broken down area that is just incredibly memorable. You like
seeing the glee on somebody's face as they go through
this is harrowing. And I really think one of the
things that really sells this movie is the found footage aspect.

(02:23:44):
It makes it feel so much more visceral. And when
everybody talks about found footage as a medium itself and
not as a genre, I think this is one of
the films that absolutely proves that it is a necessary
medium for certain films. Because if this was just filmed
as like a a stand up camera, we're shooting from
the corner of the room. This is not interesting. This

(02:24:04):
is not something that you stare at for long. It
is the feeling of voyeurism as you're going through these
moments with this killer that really makes this movie stand
out and be incredible.

Speaker 4 (02:24:14):
Yeah, I've always said it's uh. It very much goes
with like Henry Portrait of a serial Killer, which I
think are I think both have that same kind of
feel to him. Of course, with like Henry, the differences
like this this is outsiders watching where Henry it's himself.
And I guess I can claim some Henry Portrait of
a serial killer since he is from close to my hometown,

(02:24:36):
like he was just a couple of counties over so
before he went to neighbor. Yeah, that's what it feels like. Nah,
he's crazy, dude, very very interesting dude. But yeah, man,
bites Dog's excellent. I have not seen it a long time.
It's one of those ones it's hard to revisit. Like
I think about revisiting it and then I'm like, okay
for now.

Speaker 2 (02:24:56):
I thought the same for a long time, and then
Imprint just released on Blue and it went, well, okay,
I'll revisit it all right. That means number eight for you.
Number eight.

Speaker 4 (02:25:09):
Actually, somebody up top mentioned it earlier. It's the house
that Jack builds that Von Trier.

Speaker 2 (02:25:16):
Guess what my number eight is?

Speaker 4 (02:25:17):
Is it the house of Jack belt it is? We
always have one that matches exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:25:24):
I love this movie. Tell us about it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:25:27):
So I have talked about this movie a lot, so
just in case you want to hear me talk longer
about this, me and Chris did Lars Van Trier last year,
and this was the last one we ended up on
where I think we were exhausted.

Speaker 3 (02:25:38):
At this point.

Speaker 4 (02:25:39):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's right. Yeah, we were already
exhausted by the time you got there.

Speaker 2 (02:25:44):
Yeah, we can tell. And of course we're talking about
Ymphomaniac and the house to Jack built.

Speaker 4 (02:25:50):
It's like, all right, let's get this any I've been
talking about von Trier for a month. I was like,
all right, I'm done. But no house that jackvilt is excellent.
If it ends up being the last thing varn Trier
really does, if we don't count like kids return to
the Kingdom, it's an excellent one for him to end on.
I think, you know, Matt Dillon playing this the movie.
The thing I love about the movie is it has

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such a seventies look to it, which I think is
important in a lot of serial killer media because, at
least in the US, the seventies was kind of the
era for serial killers. You have Jeffrey Dahmer, you have
Ted Bundy, son of Sam, that sort of thing. You
have all this stuff going on, so it feels like
such a vital era for it, and I think he
captures it really well, even though it still kind of

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looks European. That's just fun treer, that's just gonna look
that way. But Dylan is so good in this movie,
and it's still one of my favorite trailers. I remember
when the trailer for this released, and I don't even
know if I really knew wh venture was. I think
at that point i'd see Anti Christ and it's still
one of my favorites. I think it captures the tone

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of the film so well. My girlfriend, who has never
seen it, still loves the part because she's seen that
trailer where he talks about like he has the woman
behind the car and all the blood is hitting the
road and then it rains and he starts talking about
God and stuff like that, and she thinks about that
all the time, and I think that captures the tone well,
like that shouldn't be funny, but what von Trier is

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so good at is how funny the movie is. Like
you'll be disturbed for like good five minutes because of
some crazy shit that just happened, and then you laugh,
And I was like, I think that's what von Trier does.

Speaker 2 (02:27:28):
Well, Yeah, this is a movie that is hard for
a lot of people to watch, but I also think
everybody should probably watch this at least one So I'm
not gonna spoil the I'll just say I'm not gonna
spoil the ending because it is the one of the
most intense things that I'm going to talk about tonight,
but this movie. I mean, there are so many scenes

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in this that are iconic imagery that are disgusting to
look at, that are truly deplorable acts of a terrible person.
And there are things like the whole Uma Thurman portion
of this movie, which is hilarious and dark and just
completely out of nowhere, abrupt where he just e viscerats

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her out of.

Speaker 4 (02:28:12):
No and the thing that's so funny to me. And
you know, I've talked a lot about von Trier about
you know, a lot of the people have a lot
of opinions about him. Is very provocative individual. But I
give him a lot of credit for someone who's going
to do a self insert and make fun of himself
for being pretentious. His self insert is someone like Jack,
And you know, it takes the accusations that he got

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for years and have people view him because it is
disturbing stuff, and then actually kind of make fun makes
fun of himself. And I think that's great. I think
the movie pulls that off incredible. I used to have
an issue with the which I won't spoil here. I
used to have a problem with the final thirty minutes
the first time I watched it, and now I think
it's brilliant.

Speaker 3 (02:28:53):
I think the end of the movie is awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:28:55):
Yeah, it's it's a masterpiece. I mean even not really
a spoiler because it's the poster of the film, I guess.
But there's a whole there's a whole scene dedicated to
like a refrigerator type of secon. Yeah, and this whole
thing that is so meticulous and OCD like literal OCD,
like I have to do things exactly a certain way.

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It comes into play in this film in many different ways,
but the way that he approaches these things in this
refrigerator and goes on his own personal journey literally and
figuratively near the end of this movie, and you thinking, well,
what even what just happened? Like what is the actual
ending here? Like? Am I seeing what I'm seeing? Am

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I seeing what He's seeing? Is this real or not?
There's so much that philosophically comes into play after this
that I just love walking away from this movie and
feeling like weirdly disgusting that you just watch this thing
and go, well, shit like that sucked in a way
because good Lord of my depress now, But also God,

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I have so many questions that I just want to
sit and ponder and feel in my feelings about. Yeah,
this to me is a masterpiece. This starts like everything
else in my list from here up is damn near
in my mind, a perfect movie.

Speaker 4 (02:30:14):
Literally, Yeah, and with and the thing I think that
also does really well is I think you know, when
I talk about that objective view and it comes to
your killer films, I think this is one that kind
of breaks that idea because like that part you talk
about them with Thurman, you almost feel vindicated when he
like hits her in the face because you're so annoyed
with her.

Speaker 2 (02:30:32):
Yeah, like you said, her in the face. It one
of the most unlikable characters in cinema.

Speaker 4 (02:30:36):
Ever, and you kind of I think it almost makes
you reflect that you have the same capability for violence.

Speaker 2 (02:30:42):
Yeah, literally yeah, and it's you are here do it.

Speaker 3 (02:30:46):
A different thing?

Speaker 4 (02:30:46):
Yeah, like Jack represents the worst part about yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:30:51):
Yep, yep, great movie, great movie. Uh well, we have
the same number eight, So what's your number seven?

Speaker 4 (02:30:57):
Number seven? So I think this is where I'm gonna
start getting some takes here. I had a strange darling
as Yes, I have seen this movie quite a few
times now. I love the soundtrack. I love everything about
ze Berg in that film is absolutely gorgeous. I think
it's a great twist on it. And I'm not going
to spoil the movie here, so no worries. The way

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they do the serial killer storyline, I think is a
lot of the deconstruction of how the assumptions you make
when watching a film like that. I think it's beautifully shot.
UHBC did such a great job time doing cinematography. I
am someone who loves Kyle Gallener and will if uh

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Fitzgerald Fitzgerald. Yeah, will I Fitzgerald. I think they both
do excellent in this movie. They have such a great chemistry.
They play off each other well, and they play off
the audience well, which I think is really where the
brilliance of the film comes in. It's how brilliantly it
plays off the audience and what the it's a the
way the way I'll use the example of like the
Simpson that you have a joke format called screw the Audience,

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and I think either you're on board with that joke
or you're not, and that's pretty much all strange.

Speaker 2 (02:32:09):
Darling has a screwed the audience YEP. You're on board
or you're screwed.

Speaker 4 (02:32:12):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:32:15):
I love strange Darling. I never would have thought of
it for this. That one of the things that I
had to And I don't know if you made this distinction,
because I definitely did today. But I was trying to
in my mind think of the difference between serial killers
and like spree killers, because there are some people that
like just go on one rampage and they'll kill you know,

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eight people in the span of one night, and that's
that's crazy. But to me, that feels like a different
type of movie.

Speaker 4 (02:32:43):
So that's actually one thing I wanted to bring. I'm
glad you said that because they reminded me of a
thought I was having. But yeah, like when we think
it's Lasher movies, they are more mass murder. Your mass
murder movies like serial killers are slow, like you might
get one kill here and there.

Speaker 2 (02:32:57):
Yeah, so this movie is definitely a weird one, but
I totally see it. Kyle Gollner's great. I think j
Two Mulner penned a script on this that was brilliantly
put together and really can only be watched this one way.
Like I really hope nobody ever goes and puts it
in chapter order.

Speaker 3 (02:33:17):
Yeah, I don't think it needs today.

Speaker 4 (02:33:18):
I think I mean, I could see it as a
curiosity after you've seen.

Speaker 2 (02:33:21):
It, maybe, But yeah, this, Yeah, this movie stupendous. And
Begley Junior is hilarious for forty eight seconds or whatever.
This movie's just intense and the big like surprise this
Willa Fitzgerald did maybe like the best performance of the
year for anybody and got very little, very little recognition.

Speaker 4 (02:33:45):
Yeah, And I'm really excited for Molner because he's writing
The Long Walk that comes out this year. I think
he's gonna nail it. I think him and Lawrence are
really gonna nail that movie.

Speaker 2 (02:33:57):
Have you. I'm sure you've seen the trailer already.

Speaker 4 (02:34:00):
A few times. I actually get excited to see it
because that's one of those it's one of those books
I actually never thought would get made.

Speaker 2 (02:34:06):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (02:34:06):
I was like, well, they won't do the movie, and
I mean, obviously they made some changes because if we
were going to do a book accurate, those kids would
look younger. But I can I know a studio is
not going to sign off on really young looking kids
to get shot in the head. They're just going to
do it. They're like, let's get them a little older,
Let's make them like almost young adults were shot in
the head.

Speaker 2 (02:34:24):
Yeah. I think the trailer looks really good. I'm stoked.
I hope Mulner is very successful with it. He's great.

Speaker 4 (02:34:30):
Absolutely, Francis Lawrence back in Horror, I'm I'm all for
he's doing that. He's doing Constantine too. I'm sold, like,
I'm happy for it.

Speaker 2 (02:34:37):
Yeah. So my number seven, this takes a very very
different turn from the house that Jack built. At number eight,
I had to bring on Spike Lee's The Summer of
Sam from nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (02:34:50):
It has been on my list for years to see.
So I want to hear you sell it to me
because I've been wanting to watch it.

Speaker 2 (02:34:55):
So Summer of Sam this is one of those things
you said you didn't want to use the word. This
to me is like the ultimate serial killer vibe movie.
Because one of the reasons that this movie is so
part of the pun here for those that have seen
it but like sticky after you've watched it, is because
it's literally a movie built around a single summer where

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people are mentally rampaged by what is happening but also
have this insane heat wave that is ruining it and
making everybody already tense because of everything going on. And
so Spike Lee's movies you already see like dirt and
grime and sweat on everything, but this is probably his

(02:35:37):
sweatiest film ever. And I mean that in the literal way,
but also like the people in this movie are so
lived in the characters in this you you could probably
like guess what each of these characters are gonna do
in a normal day because you see everything about those characters,
because Spike is a master of building great characters. And

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the cast here, oh my gosh, the cast in the
Summer of Sam So, John Leguizamo, Adrian Brody being wild
in this movie, Mira Sorvino, Jennifer Esposito, Michael Rispoli. You've
got all kinds of character actors that show up in
the background some of these scenes. BB Neworth is in
this really great. This movie though, is like the ultimate

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just the serial killer aspect being in a way like
the b story plot to this overall film is what
keeps this overall sense of dread in a way that
only Spike, I feel like, could have done with this story.
I think it's kind of a masterpiece. It's obviously nowhere
near something like Malcolm X or do the Right Thing
in his filmography, but when you look at how he

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crafted the way that John Leguizamo is just I don't know,
he's like very much a real person. You could say,
somebody just filmed this guy's week and put it on screen,
and you be like, yeah, this is essentially a documentary.
And it's so lived in and real and authentically Spike
that I had to list it here. You know, Craig

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mentioned earlier all this praise for the House that Jack
build and it's only number eight. Yeah, Summer of Sam
is a better movie. This movie is a stone cold
masterpiece to get slept on because it's fucking Spike Lee,
and he's got nine movies that are at least this good,
which is insanity. Yeah, this movie rules.

Speaker 4 (02:37:23):
And I'm interested in that just because, like I think,
doing a movie on Berkowitz is kind of a hard
thing to do because we had so little. Like, yeah,
everybody knows that he heard the voices of the dog thing,
but I mean he pretty much more or less mentioned
that pretty much the confirmed that was bullshit. Yeah, I mean,
he's just kind of a he's hard to label, he's

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hard to like fully understand. So I almost feel like
you have to do it in almost a documentary style,
like just like, look, this is who he is. Figure
it out. Like that's just too Son of Sam is.

Speaker 2 (02:37:56):
Yeah, and it's it's worth the watch. Still in twenty
twenty five, there's a pretty decent Qino Blue out there,
but I really wish this is one. I know that
I shoot on Criterion a lot, but I hope this
is one that a better boutique than Keino will give probably.
I mean, I would be surprised if you got a
four K in away because it's such a small Spike
Lee movie, but again it's Spike Lee. Like, I would

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love Criterion to give this a really great four K
and load it with supplements, because this movie deserves it.
There's so much behind the story for this that could
be interesting and compelling and contextual.

Speaker 4 (02:38:28):
That people would love learning about. Yeah, I might put
that in a shortly. I might watch that this week actually,
since I haven't seen it, so you've convinced me.

Speaker 2 (02:38:34):
I can't wait to see what you do.

Speaker 4 (02:38:37):
All right, So this is gonna be my last, like real.
I'm not gonning my last unconventional I have a couple
of hot takes later, but this is one where I
guess some people might argue this may not fit, and
the rest of them are pretty you know, definitely fit.
I'm gonna go with Night of the Hunter since we're
talking about criteria, Yeah, just because it does focus quite
a bit on Mitchem's character and you know, the he's

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not a traditional serial killer in the say that he
gets it, you know, for sexual pleasure or anything like that.
He's more of a con man who's willing to you know,
stab people. But it's it's just one of those movies
where if I can find an excuse to talk about it,
I absolutely will, just because this movie is gorgeous and
having like this serial killer story, conn artists story and

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this like fairy tale I think fits so well, especially
with his performance, and it's bigger, that's bigger than life,
and I think he kind of represents almost what I
think media kind of portrays serial killers ass sometimes a
versus reality where you know they're not just complete weirdos
with problems. You know, if they're charming or you know,

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they can sneak into your house. Yeah, like, and I
think that's more of a media thing based on reality.
Of course we have Ted Bundy, but that's an exception
more than a rule. Like, but yeah, that's not so.

Speaker 2 (02:39:59):
That was my number six, number six, Night of the Hunter. Yeah,
this movie is great. Not on my list because it's
it just didn't come to my mind as a serial
killer movie offhand, but I definitely see it. This is
a movie that I adore. This is another like six
out of five star movie for me. Mitchm and Lawton
are the perfect team up for this. He is intensely

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terrifying in multiple scenes of this movie, and the river
scene I will I will never forget the first time
I saw that shot and just feel like, oh God
sort of feeling about it. So yeah, I love this movie.
It's a masterpiece. And yes, as Stanta saying, the current
issue of the Physical Media Advocate has an article by

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film blogger Sam other YouTuber in the newest issue about
Night of the Hunter, So check it out.

Speaker 4 (02:40:49):
Excellent, excellent. I'll be looking forward to reading that.

Speaker 2 (02:40:52):
My number six is the first Korean film on my
list tonight, and that is twenty ten. I saw the
Devil Minds up higher, all right, we'll come to it
later then, yeah, okay. So my number five is Memories
of Murder Minds up Hire.

Speaker 4 (02:41:11):
Okay, so let's.

Speaker 2 (02:41:14):
Number five. I hope that you don't.

Speaker 4 (02:41:17):
I feel like you're about to say, it's up higher,
silence of the lambs, It's up higher.

Speaker 2 (02:41:20):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:41:24):
Tell you get a little basic after that for me.
So my number four is I Saw the Devil, so
we can talk about that one.

Speaker 2 (02:41:31):
Tell us about I Saw the Devil's Deck.

Speaker 4 (02:41:33):
I Saw the Devil is a really more of a
revenge film, but essentially it tells the story of a guy,
this woman is killed horribly by the serial killer in
South Korea and guys a detective finds his fiance, but
I don't think they're mayde. I think it's his fiance.

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It finds she's horribly murdered, and instead of just like
taking your normal revenge where he just shoots the guy
and John Wicks styles that he decides he's going to
keep torturing him and letting him go time after time
after time and after time, and this movie gets wild,
like by the end of this movie, it is, you know,
it really puts this perspective into the idea of you know,

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becoming the monster that sort of thing, and becoming like
you're really hunting sort of thing, which I mean, you
sure we've saying, but I don't know if it's ever
been done quite like this. I think there's a lot
of uniqueness that I saw The Devil because of that.

Speaker 2 (02:42:28):
Yeah, there is. I think there was print marketing around
this movie, if I remember right, that said like abandoned
your compassion or abandoned compassion or something like that, And
before I even saw the movie, I went.

Speaker 4 (02:42:42):
Oh, this is gonna be a heavy one, and somehow
it was so much heavier than that, Like this is.

Speaker 2 (02:42:50):
You know, this is a movie where an agent is
literally forced to essentially become the person that he's hunting,
and that's kind of cliche and trophy, but it's so
different because this guy is clearly benevolent in so many
different ways that he is just beyond enraged with this
person that he's chasing, that he loses himself in this process,

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and the I don't know, the absolute horror that we
see in response to some of these situations is crazy.
There are lots of people that say they can never
watch this movie again. I think the acting in this
is one of the best, which I said, this is
the first Korean film, one of the best Korean films

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that you can see literally and from the twenty first century,
like as far as acting goes, because it is so
well done. Like pretty much everybody, it's not the best,
but I think it's really really great compared to lots
of others. Yeah, for those that have not seen it,
you should absolutely make I Saw the Devil a point
that you go to watch it.

Speaker 3 (02:43:51):
And I really really hope magnet on Ic puts this out.

Speaker 4 (02:43:55):
I would be thrilled with that.

Speaker 2 (02:43:57):
Puts it out with new extras, give us a booklet,
give it a UHD. This movie deserves all the love
that you can pour on it, because god damn, this
movie is incredible.

Speaker 4 (02:44:04):
I assume Magnan still holds this one. I haven't seen
anyone else ever put it out.

Speaker 2 (02:44:08):
Yeah, probably that or I mean, I don't see why
they would necessarily, but Umbrella has released a lot of
Korean stuff. If they did a special edition of this one,
I would buy the giant box, like, give me everything
you possibly could for this.

Speaker 4 (02:44:21):
Film, and it's and honestly it's hard to say. I
would at least argue it might be the best looking
film on this on this list, like it is a
gorgeous looking movie. It would look great on four K.
And that's hard because there's some really good looking stuff here.
But at least I think is in the conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:44:38):
Yeah, it absolutely would be. Yeah, this is a great movie.
This is I saw the Devil, Craig asking which movie
in the chat twenty ten South Korean film It's incredible.
So we skipped a couple that was your number four? Right? Yes,
so my number four, we're gonna be catching up for
those that didn't hear those, We're gonna be catching up
on some of those later. My number four if it's

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higher and yours, let me know. Henry Portrait of a
serial Killer not on my left.

Speaker 4 (02:45:04):
OK, you're good, You're good.

Speaker 2 (02:45:06):
So this movie, I it probably is more of a
nostalgia pic for me because I saw this one quite
early in like my discovering classic horror that I've missed,
and this is a movie that just I don't know,
I felt disgusting watching this movie. There's one scene in
particular that everybody always references, and it's this one bedroom

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scene and when you're watching the stuff leading up to
that moment, see Josh says Umbrella already released I saw
the Devil not in. I don't know. There was not
quite enough there to compel me to want the better
release of that one. I wanted better, and Umbrella's upgraded
a couple things. I would love to see a better

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release of that. See Oh Yeah, Henry Portrait of a
Serial Killer. It's about literally a guy that gets out
of prison. He goes back to his friend's apartment, meets
up with the guy and his girlfriend that are living there,
and they start doing some bad things together, and the
guy loses his shit and starts killing people, and you
just kind of go along on this journey and it's

(02:46:12):
just like real, it's just watching madness unfold in front
of you. That has always hit me harder with this,
and I don't know, this movie feels extra disgusting in
a way that I still feel to this day. It's
just not something that gets enough sort of credit anymore.

(02:46:34):
I feel like I feel like a lot of people
look down on this movie, probably because of the time
that it came out, because it's kind of the forefather
of a lot of these movies. Yeah, I don't know,
I want I want something. I want this to get
its flowers in the way, because it paved the way
for a lot of these movies.

Speaker 4 (02:46:50):
I think part of.

Speaker 3 (02:46:50):
The reason this is this could be wrong, but this is.

Speaker 4 (02:46:53):
Kind of my theory of why Henry Portra of Serial
Killer had such a hard time. So it came out
in eighty six, right, yeah, something right around there. Yeah, yeah,
eighty six. So this is only five years after Adam Walsh,
of course goes missing has found dead. For anyone who
doesn't know the connection, uh, the person that Henry le
Lucas was traveling with as the Drifter Killer was Otis O'Toole,

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who was confirmed to have kidnapped Adam Walsh and h
while we have Adam alerts and things like that for
missing children. So this was very soon after that. And
this is right around when America's What show did His
Dad Do?

Speaker 2 (02:47:28):
America's America Wanted You?

Speaker 4 (02:47:30):
Yeah, so this is right when that's becoming big and
things like that. So I almost wonder if people watched
it and was like, Okay, this is a little almost
a little tasteless. You do it, And I think I think,
looking back on it, it needed to be. It is a
tasteless movie on purpose in a sense.

Speaker 2 (02:47:46):
Yeah, I mean it's not like a I don't know,
it's not like a shock movie, like a like Faces
a Death type of shock, but it is definitely one
that is like, we want you to feel bad about this,
We want you to walk away definitely feeling negative and
not you know, this is not meant to be sympathetic
towards Henry or anything like that. It is meant to

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be gross and disgusting and authentic. And again, like I've
said the words like three times already, but that one
specific bedroom scene is so under your skin greasy, Like, man,
they really put this on film and I'm watching it,
like why am I getting enjoyment out of watching this?
That makes you question that? And it's just such a

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good movie. And I can't believe we got a four
K of it from arrow In like the wonderful release.
It's crazy that we're at that point. But yeah, this,
to me, I felt like it had to be on
my list. I saw this so early.

Speaker 4 (02:48:41):
It is the I mean, it's it's in the name
literally Henry Portrait of a serial Killer. Yeah, and I mean,
you know, it's it's probably one of the better representations
like the problem that you have like it kind of
reminds me that quote. I can't remember who said it's
some of the comments probably can tell me, but it
always reminds me of a quote that was, like all
anti war films turn around come pro war films. And
I think serial killer movies can have that problem too,

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to where you want to explore, but sometimes we inadvertently
by accidents, cause it to almost glamorize. And I actually
think Henry Ports The Serial Killer does a great job
of not doing that, Like you don't feel simple no
matter how much time you spend with Henry le Lucas,
you don't feel sorry for him. And I think that's

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that's a big that's something that's necessary.

Speaker 2 (02:49:29):
Yeah, yeah, completely agree there it is. I don't know,
it is still worth the watch. This is one that
could be hard to recommend to people, but if you
if you're feeling comfortable with having a bummer of a night,
you should absolutely watch it, all right, Number three for you, sir.

Speaker 4 (02:49:47):
Oh yeah, So we can now talk about the Silence
of the Lambs.

Speaker 2 (02:49:51):
Silence of the Lambs a literal, A perfect film tell
us about silence.

Speaker 4 (02:49:56):
So for anyone who somehow has not seen Silence of
the Lambs. It tells the story a serial killer that
goes around and essentially is trying to make a woman
suits and they use the help of local serial killer
and cannibal Hannibal Lecter, and it really just tells the
story of how the FBA agent Clarice Sterling is dealing

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with having to have like a type of any type
of relationship with him, as you know, he reads her
and who she is as a person and she has
to do the same thing to him. It's actually, to
me one of those movies where it feels like it's
gonna end up like Taxi Driver or seven to like
a degree where you're like, yeah, this is a great
introduction movie, and you know it's still a great movie

(02:50:38):
on its own, but things have done it better. Uh,
there's very few things that have done it better. Sounds
of lamps, that movie is excellent and just you'll get back,
Like I remember going back and Rotchet after ten years
and I was I was kind of prepared to be
disappointed by it, and I was like, no, this Vie's awesome,
like everything about it. And it's technically a sequel to Manhunter,
which I don't know if we're going to get that

(02:50:59):
on here, I don't think so. Of course they will
remake the sequel to Manhunter again later in a much
worse way. But yeah, absolutely phenomenal movie. I don't know
if there's a whole lot I can add to it,
just because in thirty five years, I think everything about
it has been said.

Speaker 2 (02:51:18):
Not necessarily a sequel to Manhunter. Another adaptation of a
Thomas Harris that includes s.

Speaker 4 (02:51:24):
It does include an actor who plays the same character
in that movies.

Speaker 2 (02:51:32):
So yeah, Silence of the Lamps. I had this at five,
And again I saw this one very early in my life.
This was a formative film for me. This came out.
I was like four or five years old, I think,
and I don't remember how old I was. I had
to have seen this when I was like nine, probably,
And fuck, there are so many scenes of this movie
that just rocked my world, and like you can do

(02:51:54):
that in the movie. I mean, there are so many
things that I mean, I could just spend like ten
minutes talking about each of these things. Like you know,
we've all heard the.

Speaker 4 (02:52:01):
Whole Anthony Hopkins wins and he was on screen for
twelve or eighteen minutes or whatever it was, and hardly
in the movie at all, and yes, absolutely deserved.

Speaker 2 (02:52:11):
Yeah, there's no one who did better that year in
his performance. You can watch his facial mannerisms and just
give it to Anthony Hopkinson's face for that year, and
he would have deserved it. I mean the opening shot
when you are seeing her go buy all of the
cells and he is face first right up against those
bars and the camera itself moves in It is one

(02:52:32):
of the most terrifying introduction to a character ever because
of how it catches you off guard. It is impeccable filmmaking.
This movie is so crazy because you could make the
argument of we're just trying to see that, oh, a
female can be an FBI agent and she pull it off. No,
she's fucking brilliant, and yet she's also terrified, and yet

(02:52:54):
she's also on edge and has something to prove. And
this nuanced character is facing this other nuanced care And
the funny thing those aren't even the serial killers, Like,
we're not hardly talking about the fact that we've got
buffalo fucking Bill By in his side.

Speaker 4 (02:53:09):
He's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (02:53:11):
He is amazing in this and has some of the
most iconic lines and images in this movie. And the
way that we approach Silence of the Lambs is blown
away because of the performances the two leads, and I
mean all the faces that you get in this, the
entire franchise that this spawns that a lot of people
hate that. I I don't love every single one of

(02:53:32):
the sequels, but I like all of them, even the
weird incest storyline of the prequel and all that. Like this, This,
this franchise is crazy, and everyone should watch the Hannibal
TV Chef.

Speaker 3 (02:53:43):
If you have not seen it, watch it.

Speaker 2 (02:53:44):
It's fantastic, beautiful, absolutely beautiful and weird to say about
a cannibal movie, but yes, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (02:53:52):
Yeah, and I mean that's that. Sounds of the Lambs,
I've always said has one of the most terrifying sayings
as the night vision saying, which I still think holds
up some incredibly well. And it's done so well. I
don't think anyone ever does night vision scenes and horror movies.
They're like, it's not gonna hold up, It's fine, we'll
just do something else.

Speaker 2 (02:54:11):
It is perfect here, absolutely incredible, and then of course
the fake out with that leads to the night vision
scene is incredible, and the crazy thing is watching it now, Like,
I don't know that it holds up necessarily as a
fake out, because you can kind of forecast it coming
the way that it leads up to it. But the
dread that comes from the fact that like three scenes

(02:54:33):
or not three scenes, but three shots before you actually see, oh,
she's at the wrong house, you can feel it. And
so like for me watching it now, I can feel
still like my heart start racing a little bit because
you're like, fuck, like she is actually in trouble and
has no.

Speaker 4 (02:54:48):
Idea, and you know, I think sounds of lambs. I've
used this as an example before, but I think it
shows the power of like how cinema can adapt books
like I don't know if anyone's ever read Hair Perris's books.
They are trashy, little pulp novels. They're great ideas, they're
not that well written, but they're cool. And it's kind
of like The Godfather, where you have these pulpy little

(02:55:10):
books that are just they is a stronger writer, but
not that much stronger. But you take a director who
has a vision and says, look, this is some really
good stuff in here. Let's just tweak it and make
it something special. Let's take it seriously instead of making
it a pulp kind of crime thing. And it pays

(02:55:32):
off and dividends because of that.

Speaker 2 (02:55:34):
And that's literally the funniest thing about this movie because
if you take I don't know, there's probably like eight
or nine different scenes or plot devices that they use
in this film that if you just showed somebody like
the script for that day, you'd think, oh, this is
gonna be super fucking goofy. But this works because nothing
about it is goofy. Like a guy in a wheelchair

(02:55:55):
on fire is one of the most shocking images of
hiding his genitals between his legs and making a pose
is like a weirdly creepy, like what the fuck is happening?
And there's like five or six more of those. It
is such an incredible movie. Yeah, this I had it
at five, which is crazy. It's just that the other

(02:56:17):
four above this are I don't know, they stick with
me a little more. And again, Silence of the Lambs
led to this, that led to these other ones. It's
like Silence of the Lambs ran so that these could
run at full speed. I guess, I don't know. It's
just it's great, but it's just slightly lower on my list.

Speaker 4 (02:56:35):
Well, now I want to know what your number three
is my number three.

Speaker 2 (02:56:40):
So I mentioned that I Saw The Devil's my first
Korean movie. Number three is my next Korean movie, and
that is The Chaser. Not that I expected.

Speaker 3 (02:56:48):
Oh it was not the one I expected.

Speaker 2 (02:56:53):
The Chaser is a movie that I saw for the
first time about two years ago and fell absolutely in
love with. So The Chase is a crazy fucking movie
that is based around a guy that is running like
a brothel for call girls essentially, and he sent somebody
out and she goes missing. He has no idea where

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she is, and he has to go investigate because he's
losing one of his assets, and in the process discovers
that the person that sort of disappeared her is literally
a serial killer and this is happening to all kinds
of stuff, and he ends up chasing this person many
many times. Throughout this movie. There's a lot of chasing,
hence the title of The Chaser. This movie is from

(02:57:37):
two thousand and eight, is sort of like The Granddad
to I Saw the Devil. There's a lot of stuff
that happens in this that you could see when oh, okay,
we need to dial it up for I Saw the Devil.
But this movie is intense. There's so many choices made
in this movie that if it wasn't a Korean film,
they never would have taken those steps, very much like

(02:57:58):
I Saw the Devil, and I'm so glad that they did. Specifically,
there's one scene near the end that there is a
convenience store setting and you're just, you know, if you're
expecting like a typical Hollywood horror or very I don't know,
like downbeat, depressing serial killer movie, you would know, Hey,

(02:58:19):
they're they're gonna come in. The ending is gonna be
right here, They're about to get caught, and no, this
fucking movie goes, Oh you thought this was the ending. Nope,
you still got like twenty minutes left. We're gonna insert
something here that's intense and you're not gonna be ready
for it. But the actual serial killer storyline is a
part that, at least for me, I downplay when I
think about this movie quite a bit. But it is

(02:58:40):
scary as hell. Like this guy has a very secure house,
but it's it's like a I don't know, it is
a full house, but everything is locked around it. He's
got lots of different ways to keep people out of it,
and it's terrifying to see what he does in this house.
There are set pieces here where it comes to like
burying people in the yard that is terrifying. Visually, this

(02:59:03):
movie is a masterpiece. I love this movie literally, one
of my favorite films of all time. Now, I think
this is incredible for those that have not seen The
Chaser because it's been a little difficult to see region
free disc from Umbrella a couple of years ago. Masterpiece.
Go check it out. The standard is very cheap, absolutely
worth watching.

Speaker 4 (02:59:21):
You know, this was I was hoping to be able
to get to this one this week because I had it.
I had it on my watch list. I was like,
I have time I'd like to get to That was
one of them. And now I really wish I didn't
get to it.

Speaker 2 (02:59:32):
Well, now you got too to watch this weekend?

Speaker 4 (02:59:34):
Yeah, I do, all right? So where we at number two? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:59:38):
Number two?

Speaker 3 (02:59:39):
All right, it's gonna be Zodiac.

Speaker 2 (02:59:42):
My number two is Zodiac.

Speaker 4 (02:59:44):
Hey we got too identical?

Speaker 2 (02:59:45):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (02:59:46):
So as to me, Zodiac is simply the best movie
ever made. That and how it discusses true crime fascination,
like especially serial killer fascination about that that it is
about the Zodiac Killer, yep, the way, And you know,
I think it's great that Fincher did it because Fincher

(03:00:07):
has done like so much with serial killer media, mind Hunters,
he did seven of course, and he's doing this, he's
really almost critiquing his own fascination with serial killers and
how easy it is to get obsessed and what kind
of dark place that can kind of put you in,
and how you treat them, and how you almost you
don't even treat a serial killer who's currently killing people

(03:00:30):
like a real person. You almost treat them like a character, yep,
and you lose sight of what's what's important. I just
think the way Fincher did that it's the best. I
still think it'll probably be the best movie he's ever
makes in his career. It's brilliant. The amount of detail
that goes into that movie is just brilliant.

Speaker 2 (03:00:49):
Yeah. I Mean the big thing that this gets right
that a lot of these other ones, uh don't, is
the like mental illness aspect of this because the serial
killer is doing so much to toy with the cops
and have this like very manic personality that comes out
in everything except for the way that he kills. And

(03:01:12):
that's where we get these terrifying scenes. I mean, there's
already like four comments in the chat about this, but
the lake scene, specifically, the fact that he is just
so matter of fact and walks up and just all right,
so ya is it's cruciatingly terrifying. It is one of
the most helpless scenes that I think I've ever seen,

(03:01:35):
other than like, I don't know, the end of The
Strangers where they said because you're were home. There's so
much in the nuance of how they have his character
move literally in that scene is just it's a Wednesday,
and this is my plans to walk up and shoot you.
And it's all so visceral and intense. And knowing that

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an entire like not just not just a community, but
like an entire half of one of the largest states
in the United States was swept up in the fear
of this at the time is captured so fucking perfectly
that this movie is, like, it is the definition of

(03:02:21):
what this genre should be. And it's gonna be weird
saying that that's number two, because it's it's that exactly.
But man, this movie is perfection.

Speaker 4 (03:02:32):
Yeah, and I think you know, one of the and
this has been talked about deaths. I won't belabor the point,
but I do think the brilliance of he would only
show things that had an eyewitness account, like he doesn't
show the first murders because there were no living eyewitnesses.
And every time he goes to cast Whoever's gonna play
Zodiac it matches the description they gave. It wasn't about

(03:02:52):
keeping the same because I mean, at the end of
the day, the movie admits we don't know who he is,
but it was about getting closure. He goo into Zodiac
Alan was not the Zodiac Killer more than likely.

Speaker 2 (03:03:05):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (03:03:05):
Are we really upset because the dude was a pedophile
and now we're not upset to call him the Zodia killer.
So whatever, if it gives you closure, it gives you closure.
That's what the film's about, just saying, look, I've spent
enough time trying to understand this and there are just
more important things. And I think that is just there's
a brilliance to it. And you know, all the murders

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happened really within the first hour of the film, and
the last hour and a half of it. Is just
kind of exploring, you know, Jake Gillenhall's character, who isn't
the easiest person to be around. I always remember the
great gray Smith, the real person, watching it and talking
about he kind of understood why his wife left him,
you know, watching the film and it's like, that's such

(03:03:46):
a sad sentence, and you know that. I think it
really captures how well Fincher did to try to be
real to what gray Smith believed, and Jillenhall's great in it.

Speaker 2 (03:03:58):
Yeah, I guess we probably should mention that the entire
cast here is really good, and the fact that so
many of them go on to see you so many
MCU films is so weird to watch in twenty twenty five.
But I mean Jake Chill and Hall, Mark Ruffalo, Robert
Downey Junior obviously, but then throwing Elias Kotias, Anthony Edwards,

(03:04:20):
John Carroll Lynch is creepy as fucking this, Chloe Seven
yeas in this, Brian Cox of course, Philip Baker Hall
is always incredible, just amazing in this. God Zodiac has
been discussed to death, but this movie is absolutely a masterpiece.

Speaker 4 (03:04:39):
Well you talk about like that because you were home
being so creepy. I always think about not many people
have basements in California. I do, and I just think
that is so chilling every time I hear it.

Speaker 2 (03:04:52):
Yeah, yeah, good, solid pick. I'm glad that we had
two in the exact same spot. Yeah yeah, So your
number one, sir, I think by deduction we can probably
guess what it is. But what is your number one?

Speaker 3 (03:05:05):
What do you think my number one is?

Speaker 2 (03:05:08):
I have a feeling as memories of murderer.

Speaker 4 (03:05:10):
No that I had to remember. I had to skip
that one. You said, you said it was, that's my
number fie.

Speaker 2 (03:05:15):
Oh it's lower, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 4 (03:05:17):
Yea, yeah, so that's all. We had to skip that one.
Uh note my number one is here's the one's gonna
piss people off. Long legs, oh.

Speaker 2 (03:05:29):
Zach Oh okay, yeah, I forgot that. You love this one?
I do, and I do mean love, like, yes, this
is incredible.

Speaker 4 (03:05:37):
Yep yep. So long Legs is h It takes a
lot of inspiration from a lot of things we've talked about,
and I think there's an interesting connection. So this was
made by Ozgo Perkins, whose father is Anthony Perkins. So
the thing I always find fascinating about this is it's
taken a lot of inspiration, of course, from Signs to
the Lambs, which is based off ed Gean ed Gan

(03:05:58):
also inspired Psycho, So there's a nice little familial thing
going on here that I think is great. I think
Long Legs captures the reason I mentioned earlier with Cure
is because I think it does a lot of the
things Cure does. I think there is an incredible amount
of detail in this film. I think the amount of

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mystery that just stays pervasive throughout and I know a
lot of people complain about there being so much that's
talked about. I can already see a lot of comments
go on, so that's great. I think, you know, a
lot of people complain about the exposition at the end,
and while I think that's a valid criticism, I also
think it's a little overstated because there's still so much

(03:06:40):
mystery to this film. I mean, you know, one of
the things I think as fascinating as every Murder has
like a little red piano in it, and they don't
ever highlight that. They do highlight it a little bit
in like the alternate reality game they made for it,
but it's as far as the text of the film.

Speaker 3 (03:06:55):
There's all these little things, you know, they have like
the you.

Speaker 4 (03:06:58):
Know, all these detail in the background, and I think
it's so incredibly rewatchable. I think there is just so
much good going on. I think Perkins took a lot
of what he did with like Black Coade's Daughter and
made something very transcendent and this type of genre and
you know, played around a lot in the playground of

(03:07:19):
sounds of lambs and other things, but also just got
weird with it. And I love that and I really
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (03:07:28):
This is a good movie. I don't I don't love
this movie. I'm one of those that did not hate
or did not love the exposition at the end because
I wanted just a little more mystery to it. I
wanted it to be a little less supernatural feeling. But
I will say on your list, especially tonight, I really
really appreciate the performance of our main detective here.

Speaker 4 (03:07:50):
I think that Micah is incredible. I think that the
I don't know, the methodical way that we see her
approach things, especially in that first time act, is exactly
what I want from one of these movies. The other
thing that does not get enough love from this the
fact that Kiernan ship goes in this.

Speaker 2 (03:08:08):
For such a short scene, two scenes, I guess yeah,
And she is fan fucking tastic in this movie. She
got a I think I applauded her last year for
being in in two movies for like four minutes total,
which she was great in both. But yeah, she she is.
She was fantastic in this. I think Nicholas Cage put

(03:08:30):
on incredible performance. I absolutely love this. Uh yeah, it's
a good movie.

Speaker 4 (03:08:35):
I definitely need to rewatch it now that I have
a disc Forord for sure. Yeah, and it's uh the
thing that's what we were talking about Monroe. I think
that was like such a great decision by Perkins. Was
you know, Cage is gonna go big, That's just who
he is as an actor. That's what he enjoys doing,
and he's really good at it. Then you write Monroe

(03:08:55):
the complete opposite way, and I think that is such
a great way to go about it. Some people will
complain characters born. I think her character is incredibly interesting.
It's just reserved, like she's She's not going to give
you a lot, so you have to work with what
she gives you, like as a character, and I think
that's awesome because Caye is putting all of his cards
on the table, like every bed of it is on

(03:09:17):
the table.

Speaker 2 (03:09:18):
Yeah, Karina is saying, wow, so much love for Long Legs.
Thought it was awful. Love Black Coats though, I will
say Black Coats is still my favorite from him.

Speaker 4 (03:09:26):
Coach brilliant. Really. I actually think they're good, like spiritual
sequels to one another that getting too much into like
spoilers or anything. I feel like they match each other well.

Speaker 2 (03:09:36):
And then Jason says, I'm glad he went more supernatural,
agen added more to it rather than just a silence
of a lamb's nod. And I don't know, I appreciate
that more. And actually I'm in my number one. I'm
about to talk about that just a second, because that's
that's what jazz is me up on those movies. So
that's just a personal preference thing.

Speaker 4 (03:09:53):
Is I really like the methodical detective aspect of these Yeah,
And I will give credit because I think I would
have hated the supernatural element if it's not at the
very beginning, you know, where they kind of test her
psychic abilities and they just are honest, like, you know,
they kind of joke about it. Like, so, what's she's like,
I only scored fifty percent, Like, so you're only fifty
percent psychic.

Speaker 3 (03:10:13):
That's okay, Like and.

Speaker 4 (03:10:15):
I like that. I like that. It's like, look, this
is the reality of the film. And I also really
like one of my favorite elements I love to talk
about with this film is there's a joke. There's kind
of a gag in the film where they never tell
you what year it is, like in each scene, so
everyone just has like pictures of presidents, Like when they
do a flashback, there's Richard the picture.

Speaker 3 (03:10:34):
Of Richard Nixon. It's like, Okay, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:10:40):
Before I say in Mind, which everybody knows what it
is now. But Mozart's Ghost is not a movie. But
the first season and True Detective was amazing. Honestly, I
think that is the best answer for this, but it
just wasn't the movie. You will love it, I know
I will.

Speaker 4 (03:10:52):
I've just struggled with TV. I struggle so much.

Speaker 2 (03:10:56):
I get it. It is. It is. It's an investment
of time, for sure, although so is watching every Lars
van Treer movie over two months or whatever that was.

Speaker 4 (03:11:08):
I don't know if that investment was worth it. But
it happens. I'm the opposite. People always talk about like, oh,
I would never watch a ten hour movie, but if
they cut it up into one hour episodes, I would
binge it in a row. I'm the opposite. If you
tell me a movie is ten episodes long, just say
it's a ten hour movie. I'll make time. I'll do it.
I'll just watch it one. I'm the opposite on that.

Speaker 2 (03:11:31):
Yeah, I get that, all right. So my number one
everybody knows what it is. If you've been paying attention
so far, Zach add it back at number five, and
that is two thousand and three's Memories of Murdered by
Bong June Hoe. I just mentioned it, so I will
go into this for just a second. But the main
thing that makes this win for me is I love
the detective and cop angle behind these movies. The classic

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almost like Buddy Cop. We're gonna be bumbling our way
through this setup that Bong June Hoe does here is
so great and song King Ho is like one of
the greatest actors of all time literally, and so his
performance in this that goes from you know, breakthrough to
hilarious mistake to discovering something in the most like asinine

(03:12:21):
of ways in a couple scenes, making mistakes in the
actual murder scenes a couple times. This movie just sort
of has everything. And the main reason I have at
number one here is because I feel like it's perhaps
only like comparatively to Zodiac, I feel like it is
the most well rounded of these films. It sort of

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gets every angle you go through, the serial killer aspect,
you go through, every aspect of the detective side you
go through, you know, kind of like every single emotion
as you're watching this, because it does have comedic beats,
It's got really drab moments. It is like two that
are going through it, chasing this notorious rapist and murderer,

(03:13:05):
and everything about this based around what is essentially like
a true crime story, and the darkest of ways is
shot so beautifully by a master. What he does, I
don't know. This movie just ticked every single box for me,
and I think on my list, this is really the
only one that does that. I think Zodiac is like
I think that my top five are like all perfect films.

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There's just a couple of things that in each I'm like, oh,
I wonder what they could do it for this or whatever.
I feel like Memories of Murder is the exact No,
literally every single scene is exactly what you should have done.
And I'm so glad you just submitted this and said
that's it and call it a day. This movie is
shot beautifully. I don't know if I said that already. Literally,
like the landscapes in this movie are even exactly exactly

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this sort of thing where you could go, man, that
looks cozy and then remember, yeah, somebody's dead right there.
Why am I thinking this? Looks at me? Love this movie,
love like the weather in this movie. But Song King
Ho is the champion of this film. He is incredible
in every scene you hit at number five tell us
about Memories and Murder.

Speaker 4 (03:14:12):
Yeah, so I'm just gonna agree with literally everything you
just said because it is a phenomenal film. I still
Parasite deserves all the love. It's God, I'm not gonna
take that away from it. This is still to me,
Bong's best film.

Speaker 2 (03:14:24):
YEP.

Speaker 4 (03:14:25):
I think he created something truly, truly fantastic, and it's
another thing just kind of like Zodiac where it's being
very mindful. Of course, this is a based on a
real murder, a series of murders and so famously you
know he you know, the whole plot of I want
to look the killer in the eye. I know it's him.
It's very much something as Zodiac as well. This one.

(03:14:46):
He does such a good job of ending on that
that I think it's very powerful and thankfully now that
person has been caught and they're in prison, that's all
great news. Uh, but that's such a powerful way to
end the film and be mindful of Yeah, this is entertaining.
You got them. You know, there's some entertaining elements. You know,
they're the bumbling cop. Thing is funny and it's over right.

(03:15:07):
It's got a bit of levity that you're not gonna
get much in Zodiac besides maybe like two short scenes
in a three hour movie. Yeah, but he never plays
it for what needs to be played for laugh is
he never crosses that line. Yeah, you know, when he
needs to take it seriously, he takes it seriously. And yeah,
just brilliant film.

Speaker 2 (03:15:27):
And I agree on Parasite, by the way, I think
it's amazing. It's I have it as like my third
favorite Bong movie. I loved the Host in ways that
most people don't. I think that movie is absolutely astonishing.
The only thing I'll holding that one back is really
shitty CGI, but the rest of the movie, like is
very very good. I love the host and.

Speaker 4 (03:15:45):
I still need to see Mother, which I have a
feeling i'll rank highly. I just haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 3 (03:15:49):
I own it too, It's on my fucking shelf.

Speaker 4 (03:15:51):
I just need to watch it.

Speaker 2 (03:15:53):
All right. Honorable mentions? What was so close to making
your list?

Speaker 4 (03:15:57):
We mentioned a lot of them, so seven was close.
I think I had it at like twelve or thirteen.

Speaker 3 (03:16:03):
Probably one.

Speaker 4 (03:16:05):
I want to shout out that I don't have it
like rated nearly as as these, but I still think
it's worth checking out just because it's so unique.

Speaker 3 (03:16:12):
Is a film called Limbo.

Speaker 4 (03:16:15):
It is a Aitian film I want to see. Yeah, yeah,
It's a black and white film. It looks very monochromic,
chromatic where they're basically finding bodies and like dumpsters essentially,
and this really trashed out area of the city and
really good movie. I wish I liked it more than
it did, but I ended up I found this movie

(03:16:37):
randomly at McKay's like an like a couple months ago
and end up watching it really enjoyed it, so I
really want to highlight that one, just because I think
it's a very unique take on it and I think
people would enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (03:16:48):
I've got that on my shelf and I've been dying
to watch it. I need to.

Speaker 4 (03:16:52):
Did you get the same one I forgot? Who put
that out? It was a weird company.

Speaker 2 (03:16:55):
It's a four K media book and I think it
might be Cape Light.

Speaker 4 (03:16:58):
That might be. Yeah, I think you might be, because
I think that's the one I found in a case.

Speaker 2 (03:17:02):
And it was super cheap for a really good four caves. Yeah,
let me see. I think it's Kate Lighting. Any others
that you wanted to show out?

Speaker 4 (03:17:11):
I think that covers it because I think some of
the other ones that I didn't list I had on
there as well.

Speaker 2 (03:17:16):
Yeah, it was Kate Light that put it out. That's
funny because we were just talking about them. So my
number eleven we mentioned it a couple of times, was Manhunter.
I screwed up earlier and said the flaming wheelchair was Insie.

Speaker 4 (03:17:26):
I didn't want to correct you, but I was gonna
leave it.

Speaker 2 (03:17:28):
Yeah, it's from Manhunter. I just confuse myself in a
siven or already texting me to correct me, thanks. Sim
I love Manhunter. I think it's the stylish, scrappy younger
brother of Silence of the Lambs that wishes it could
be Silence of the Lambs but never could be. It's
also great, it just didn't deserve to be top ten
for me.

Speaker 4 (03:17:48):
Yeah. I think with the Hannibal elect movies, it's fascinating
the directors they get to it, because then you get
Ridley who makes a completely different movie. He's like, I'm
going to make a pulpy, slocky thing, and it's like, sure,
that's awesome to man like. It's just kind of a
weird follow up the Silence of the Lambs, but go
for it. I like it. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (03:18:09):
Number twelve I mentioned earlier was Mister Brooks. I love
that movie. I've championed that movie for a decade plus.
It's so good. Number thirteen you mentioned this earlier and
we haven't really talked talked about it, but the stepfather
is actually brilliant and he is such an intimidating character
in that movie.

Speaker 3 (03:18:26):
And yeah, I mean, it's uh that it almost sounds
like it'd be corny.

Speaker 4 (03:18:30):
I think we talked about that another film where this
could almost be corny if you're not careful. But ye,
that switch to who am I here? He sells that
with such conviction, and it's like, oh, it's so good.
And that's one of those movies. Stepfather was one where
I was like, if you needed that, then diagram of
slasher and serial killer movie, that might be it. That
might be that sliver of overlap is Stepfather.

Speaker 2 (03:18:52):
Yeah, that's that's pretty damn close. I would agree there.
And then number fourteen, This is the only other one
I wrote down, and it's because this is so totally
different than everything else I chose. I think I saw
at least one person mentioned it earlier. I have to
throw out Serial Mom. John Waters is a master of
his craft, and this is just a such a fun movie.

(03:19:14):
And I liked this for a long time, but watching
Ceial Mom on the big screen changed everything. I liked
this movie so much more after that. This was like
an immediate, oh my god, I will appreciate this for
the rest of my life now because something just seeing it,
like enrapture you is such a different experience. Yeah, Cerial

(03:19:36):
Mom is brilliant. John Waters is I don't know, he's
such a unique voice in this discussion tonight. That's kind
of hard to discuss in discussion with everything else we
just said.

Speaker 4 (03:19:49):
Yeah, especially because like everything else we talked about so heavy.
Even American Psycho, which Mozart just mentioned, has its own
weird heaviness to it, even though it's funnier than the
rest of thing else.

Speaker 2 (03:20:01):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (03:20:02):
So yeah, Ero Mom kind of stands out in that way.

Speaker 2 (03:20:06):
I'll look at that. Cereal Mom has been a long fan,
long fave of Philip and stands excited about Serial Mom. Yeah,
it's great. For those that have not seen Cereal Mom
ever or in a long time, go give it a watch.
That's one of the John Waters movies that is like
oddly timeless. I know a lot of people don't love
some of the earlier ones that are a little Shif.

Speaker 4 (03:20:25):
This one's accessible, is an accessible we'll be accessible for it.

Speaker 2 (03:20:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:20:29):
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 2 (03:20:30):
Such I don't know, it's such a audacious, understated, weird
movie in his filmography when you compared to everything else,
it's so good. Cerial Mom is a blast.

Speaker 4 (03:20:42):
And nobody gets riped by lobster, so I don't worry.
Does not happen.

Speaker 2 (03:20:47):
Oh, thanks for the disclaimer. Yeah, Zach Tell everybody where
they can find you, and what's coming up for they
Live by Film next after this mission Impossible Opus.

Speaker 4 (03:20:57):
So we are back to our normal rotation. Chris is
going to be taking us through some some Charles Bronson movies,
so that's going to be our next one. We're not
doing Death Wish. We're doing another movie by the guy
who made the first Death Wish. I wish I wrote
them down. I probably should have because I got to
watch these. Yeah, but yeah, we got three of those

(03:21:17):
coming up. So some seventies Bronson, which I know Ryan
will be thrilled about, and then we'll probably be back
on a regular rotation for a little while. So normal
is normal. I don't think we have any interview set up.
If we do, I think Chris was working on that.
You can find me if you want to see random
slasher lists I make, you can find me at DOHRMA

(03:21:39):
bombs over at Letterbox, find a bunch of other lists.
I'm obsessed with lists, so you can just go in
there and find some. I recently did my top two fifty.
You can see how bad my tastes are. Just scroll
on through.

Speaker 2 (03:21:51):
That I was about to say on the interviews, I
have not seen anything from chrispher a while. I thought
and I went looked. The last one was Frank in February.
That's so long ago.

Speaker 4 (03:22:02):
Yeah, he has been traveling a lot for his work,
so I noticed. But yeah, he's I think he's in Bali.
I think or he's going to Bali like so's he's
on the road all the time, like he was. He
asked me the other day, He's like, Hey, do you
think we could just record Friday? And I'm like, I
haven't even started these movies. Man. I was like, I

(03:22:24):
was like, when do you leave? He's like the eighteenth.
I was like, that's gonna be kind of hard.

Speaker 2 (03:22:30):
Yeah, Chris is Chris is a wild man. I've been
I've been trying to get a hold of Chris for
some time, and I think just today or yesterday he
finally responded to something. It was nice. I got to
record with them last week. It was just great. We
we got a new Monto Macabro episode coming out on
the wild Side. Check out that podcast should be up
tomorrow or Monday. We talked about Bali for a moment.

(03:22:50):
Actually kind of funny.

Speaker 4 (03:22:53):
I will shout out that I'm doing semi regular episodes
Western's with So we are going through all the Clint
Eastwood movies. We're doing two mules for Sister Sarah. I
should be recording that next month, so whenever Hunter gets
that out in January of twenty twenty seven, you should
be able to listen to. But no, seriously, listen to

(03:23:15):
that podcast. Chris is actually gonna be on there. I
think he's doing some acid westerns with him, so absolutely,
I think he's doing El Topo. And then some movie
I've never heard of. It was like this, sound like
Chris answers, So yeah, yeah, so look out for those.
A great podcast anyway, if you want to like get
into American westerns, I don't know a better resource you
can get into right now.

Speaker 2 (03:23:35):
So the new guest, by the way, Tumbleweeds and TV Cowboys.
He's had great guests. They've covered some great films.

Speaker 4 (03:23:42):
And then I was on an episode and I'm an idiot,
so skip that one. I'm sure it was.

Speaker 3 (03:23:47):
It was a great episode. They'll be like that.

Speaker 2 (03:23:50):
Other than that. If you want to have discussions like this,
we would love to have you join us in the discord.
Check out the Patreon link of the description below. I've
got more interviews. I'm up on the channel. I've had
I think three recorded that I need to edit and
put up. I've got a couple more schedules. One coming
up i'll just reveal now the next one. I finally
got the guy behind Petroglyph Media who did the double

(03:24:13):
feature of the films from Latin America that are great
that in fact, I did this interview like two and
a half weeks ago and it's still right here. This
is the release and it's upside down a funeral Sanmiestro.
And this one which I remember the title of this,
it is Triangulo Deryl de Oro Gold Triangle. Really solid release.

(03:24:36):
We go into his history and creating a boutique label
out of nowhere, and I'm stoked with that. It'll be
a nice companion piece of the trash Max podcast. Who
did a great interview with him, So check that out.
Should be up on Monday, I believe, and then my
interview after that. I still can't believe I hinted at
this in the discord, but I got to interview a
legend of horror that I have watched for decades, and

(03:25:00):
I'm still mystified that we made this happen that should
be coming out the following Monday or the Monday after that.
It is an incredible conversation and can't wait for the
world to see it because I can't believe that name
is gonna be on my channel. You guys are amazing.
Thanks for hanging out all night. It's been a long
three and a half hour conversation about depressing things and

(03:25:21):
hanging out and chatting is amazing. You guys are perfect.
We'll see you next Thursday for a first time guest
again on Reconnected, so we'll see you then. Have a
good week, Be safe, see Thank you for watching the
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