Re-Connected June 12th, 2025: Announcements and Sequels with Dustin Putman!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, Hey there everyone, and welcome back to Disconnected. I'm

(00:38):
so happy to have everybody here tonight, Dustin, it's been
quite some time we're just talking about this feels like
just I don't know, seven weeks ago, but it's been
like nine.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Months, yeah, September, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Just thrilled you're here. So how are you welcome back?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me back.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's my honor genuinely because I am always through. Are
we wearing the same shirt tonight? Really?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, happy pride again to everybody. Hello, welcome back, Welcome back.
How uh how's everything been you? You watch a ton
of movies. I'd love to hear what you've been loving
this year.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, yeah, I was. I was gonna say, uh when
we were talking before the show. Yeah, the I think
it's starting. When the Oscar nominations came out, I sort
of told myself I was gonna basically watch everything that
was nominated, and that included every short film. So like,
I went to the theater and saw all of the shorts,

(01:37):
the live action, they animated, the documentary shorts, nice and yeah,
I think from that then, I was just like, well,
let's carry it on and try to see as much
as I can in the theater this year, you know,
on top of everything else that that comes on in somebody's.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Life, because we're you and not busy in anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yes, right, so yeah, so yeah, I've seen a lot
of stuff this year.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well we'll get into more recent watches very soon, but
I want to remind everybody. Dustin wrote a pretty great
book that is linked in the description below. If you
want to check it out, please go check it out.
It's a ton of basically capsule reviews of some really
great horror movies. You want to give more of an
elevator pitch than that.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, yeah, it's called The Fright File one hundred and
fifty Films to See Before Halloween, And yeah, it's a
collection of one hundred and fifty essay slash reviews of
some of my favorite hard films.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
It is great, and I hope people check it out
because I am so grateful to be able to have it.
It was I've actually referred to it on a couple
of things that I was helping write. So I appreciate
you and all of your contributions that you've made. What
have you been picking up lately? I'm always dying to
hear this from certain people because you don't necessarily always
share your pickups. So I don't know what you love

(02:58):
to actually get. However, I know that you love a
lot of the lower budget stuff, lower budget movies.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, and this is a very
busy time. I feel like lots of stuff is coming out.
If I actually say, I had to, I had to
pick and choose what I recently got because otherwise we
would just be here for three hours with me. But yeah,
so I've got uh yeah, but so I basically picked

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the ones that I got this week. So, uh, I
got drop.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I still need to get that. Have you have you?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Did you get to see that in the theater? It's
really good.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I really like Christopher Landon, the director.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, it's basically and he said that he was inspired
by Red Eye when he made it. Oh, it's basically
Red Eye but set in like a high rise restaurant.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
That's freaking red. I have not heard the Red Eye thing.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's great, So but yeah, that was his main inspiration.
I think, so that was that was why he wanted
to do it. Yeah, and it's yeah, it's just it's
ninety minutes. It's tight, it's it's suspenseful, it's just very
well done. Sweet.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I loved Red Eye, so that Yeah, that's that's exciting. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I also got I was so happy that this actually
got a Blue ray released.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
The the Creep tapes, I was gonna share that next week. Yeah,
I got that into somewhere. Yeah, I'm so stoked on that.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah. I love the movies and I've only watched one
episode so far, but it's excellent. It's so creepy nice,
hence the name Creep. So yeah, I'm happy for that.
And then I got a Lord of Illusions the four K.
Even I was disappointed that it didn't come with the

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Blu ray as well. It's just literally just the four K.
The four K but.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Sad typer pictures.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
And then oh now, this one was a controversial title
when the when the cover was released, but I'm happy
to have it, and I actually liked the cover the whiz.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh yeah, I think it's a great cover.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, ok, yeah, I think yeah. If there's one questionable
thing about the cover, it's Diana Ross. But I mean, yeah,
but but I think it's it's it's well representative of
the film, so.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
A very specific style. Yes, next up.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
So yeah, in in VHS days, i'd say the early nineties,
I was really into Full Moon and even though they
weren't good, not even knew back then they weren't good,
but yet I still watched them. Right, I mean, there's
a few that are good, but most of them aren't
that good.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
But the one that I that I wanted so bad
on Blu Ray and it just came out this week
and I was so happy to have it is bad channels. Yeah,
there we go. I just remember it's like it's half musical,
half sci fi. I love the soundtrack. It has lots
of like Blue Oyster called in it nice. Have you

(06:16):
seen that one?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, I am dying to see it that I did
not know the musical thing.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, and then all right, and then the rest literally
just came today in the mail. So I got from Radiance,
I got Palin Drooms excellent and yeah, I haven't seen
this since the theater, so I'm looking forward to revisiting it.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I remember, Yeah, I saw this at the AFI Silver
in DC when it came out, and Todd Solons was
actually there and did a Q and.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
A excellent that's so cool.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
All right. The next one, yeah, this is going to
be another controversial pick, the Peter Pan's Never Lay a Nightmare.
I have to keep getting these because I bought their
their editions of the Too Winny of the Pooh Movies,
and they're so nice, like this is beautiful and it

(07:13):
comes with like a picture book and yeah, and just
tons of like postcards and things and yeah, it's it's
just a really nice addition. So and I actually liked
the second winn of the Pooh movies so well.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I've heard this is that the Peter Pan one
is actually the best of what they've done so far
and like genuinely worth watching them.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
So yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, yeah, I
didn't think they were the one of the Pooh ones
were as as awful as some people said. Well, I
think a lot of people actually said the second one
was better than the first, and it definitely was. You
could tell that the budget was a lot higher.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Let's let's be honest. Most people just had an opinion
without ever seeing them. That's the that's the truth.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
And the next one coming is Bam, b the Reckoning,
so we'll see how that is.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And I still need to see screen Boat. I'm actually pretty.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
It's it's it's it's entertaining. I can't say it's I
can't say it's great. But the what's his name, the terrifier.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Guy, Oh, I just forget it. David Howard Thornton.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Dave Howard Thorton. Yes, he, I mean he makes it
like he's the best thing about it easily, very different
than art the clem.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's good, that's good.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, it's not just repeating himself. And then yeah, I
got a bunch. I got all of the June Partner
labels from Vinegar Syndrome today already, I fell the earliest
that they've come in the mail, because yeah, I got
the May like the halfway to Black Friday ones last week,

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and all of a sudden, I got the June ones.
So I just picked a couple. I had to pick
scare Crow in a Garden of Cucumbers because that's the
best title ever. This one. Yeah, I hadn't heard of
this before it was announced, but it looks really interesting
rounding it does.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yes, I'm easier to see this one.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, And then the last one is Enter the Void.
This is a really nice addition to it's you can
see like it's it's got like a big booklet with it,
and yeah, yeah, it's very nice. And then the very

(09:39):
last thing that I got that just arrived like two
hours ago before the show.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh again, you are the first one to get it.
That's amazing, man, that I cannot wait to hold it.
That's my favorite so far.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, this was a great issue. I really liked. I
think it was Stan he did the article on the
devils that was but yeah, I'm really enjoying reading it.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
So we are very proud of this issue. We were
kind of worried about having enough to make it interesting
and then we had too much at the end. I
want to go back. Josephine left a comment before we
got on, and I want to highlight some of these.
Josephine says, first time watches sleep Away Camp, Rumbad, Jane,
Silent Bob, strike Back, the Sunshines Bright, and Clooney Brown.

(10:29):
I've not even heard of the last one. Any of
these that you've seen and want to want to comment on.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I mean, sleep Away Camp is a classic.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's brilliant. Yeah, I I'll also throw out there, Jane Silent,
Bob Streke Back, one of my favorites of all time,
love me.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
And yeah that one's good too.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Stances, thank you all right. So I set aside three
to talk about this week, thankfully, no crossovers. One I
got in the four K of Abigail, which I lived year.
This is the Turbine release from Germany, not the Screen
Factory one. It is a slipcase with the four K inside.

(11:11):
I trust Turbine maybe just a little bit more than
saut Factory, so that's why I chose them. And then
I missed this one last year. I didn't think I
was gonna get it, and then I had a couple
of people really explained to me how important it was.
And I've never seen the movie, so it's gonna be
a first time watch, hopefully in the next couple months.
But I went out and made sure that I got

(11:32):
Kickboxer on four K before it left Amazon. This is
an exclusive four K s to a book that Lion's
Gate put out, and it's the best release of the
movie so far, not just because it's in four K,
but it's got the multiple cuts of the film. It's
got pretty much everything that somebody would want on it
and I need to check it out.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Was that the what did you say? That was out
of print?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Now? No, but it's one of those that I'm expecting
it to not last a long time. I was kind
of surprised it was still this is the steel book
on the inside, and then this is the back cover.
And then of course being Amazon, because I don't really
trust it very much. I bought it once and had
to return it because they sent me an open copy

(12:14):
that was mangled. Definitely a return, and they just sent
it right out. Simonar is saying, is Amazon's stopping production
of it? It's not Amazon's choice, it's lions Gate's choice.
And they're a lot of their limited edition stuff that
was exclusive to Amazon has gone out a print already.
And then finally, this is my last thing, but probably

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the thing that I'm most excited about for this month's pickups.
This is from a company in Italy actually called the Legends,
and this is their brand new release of Singham. This
is their first physical media release as part of their
company and as a brand new company, they just signed
with Shout to release the not all of them, but

(13:03):
like ten, eight or ten of the Golden Princess titles
that they've signed. So this company that's giving a lot
of great attention to stuff like this is going to
be getting their hands on City of Fire, the John
Wu titles, a couple of the others, and I mean
the fact that Shout is licensing it too, Munch Territory

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shouldn't be surprising to people. But I'm glad that we're
gonna have options around the world of some of these
like City on Fire and Hard Boiled that people want
the best possible release for.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
So yeah, awesome is what is the label caught again?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
They're called it's a it's a pretentious title, but they're
called Legends. Here is their logo and the brand name
right there. Well, I guess Legends Collection. And yeah, as
you can see on the side, this is the Legends
Collection Number one. Nice eager to see this. I've heard
it's a really fun movie and Indians does not get

(14:01):
enough releases. I know that that company, I think it's
called the Cloud Door, is like doing a Kickstarter or
Indiegogo types thing in the next couple months, and they're
gonna be focusing on South Asian stuff, a lot of
Indian cinema, so hopefully we see an uptick of those. Yeah,

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all right, now now the now the big question, what
have you been watching lately? What have you loved in
theaters in the last couple we'll say month and a half.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Well, I figured I'll focus on this week's stuff. I've
already seen all three of the wide releases this week,
so I'll go over there. But yeah, last night I
saw How to Trade Your Dragon the live action. I
saw it in IMAX. It's probably what you're expecting, which

(14:52):
is it's basically if you've seen the animated one, it's
basically a repeat of that pretty much beat for beat. Yeah,
it really isn't that much that's different about it. I
mean I try to go into it and sort of
imagine if I was watching it without there being an
animated version, so like if I were to just watch

(15:15):
it as a live action film and there was no
previous one. It is well done, and I mean, and
you know, I enjoyed it enough, but at the same time,
it was hard because you just keep questioning, like you
know why, like even though you know why, but I

(15:36):
mean it is it is well done in its own way.
But yeah, there I feel like they could have done
a lot more with changing it up from the animated version.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, I don't know if I'm just too cynical. I mean,
I know a lot of people. It's not like a
hot take to say I hate remakes or whatever. I
don't hate that these exist. I just don't see why,
like it, is it genuinely just a cash grib or
are they trying to reach a different audience that doesn't
appreciate animated movies, which those exist. I'm not I'm not

(16:10):
putting that down at all, because I totally get that.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
I mean, I feel like it's it's gonna do big
numbers this weekend.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Always will.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
It's gonna be like Lee Loan Stitch. It's gonna be
It's gonna be big, and that's why it exists.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, unfortunately, that's that's most likely the exact answer.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
And then just earlier this evening before the show, I
saw Materialists, that's the new Sealine Song film, And yeah,
I said in my little review for it that the
worst thing that can be said about it is that
it's not Past Lives, which was just such a great film.

(16:50):
But with that said, it's still very well done. It's
a it's romantic comedy, drama, but probably more rama than comedy.
I think, Yeah, that's what I've heard. The trailer makes
it look more like a comedy, but it's Dakota Johnson
is excellent in it, and it's nice to see a

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romance where the characters actually talk to each other and
say what they mean without there being you know, false
crises and you know, misunderstandings and things like that. And
they're actually adult characters who act like adults. So in
that way, it was very, very impressive, And yeah, I

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did like it.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I am very eager see it's I loved Past Lives,
so I am. I am definitely making it a point
to see it this weekend. I missed Past Lives in
the theater, like we talked about before, I'm not going
to miss this one. This is a must for me.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that you're going to get to
see it. And then yeah, and then the third one
that's opening wide this weekend, The Life of Chuck Mike Flannagan.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
This is.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
How do I how do I say it? It's very
rare that there it only comes around every every few
years for me where I see a movie that just
affects me so deeply and so profoundly that I just
I instantly know not only is it going to be
the best of the year, but it's instantly one of

(18:28):
my all time favorites. Like I just it. Yeah, it's
very rare that that happens, and it just it's so
inspiring to see something that just works on every single
level and has so much to say at the same time.
And it's just it's the movie that we really need
right now, because while everything is just on fire, like

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this is the type of movie that makes you feel
happy to be alive, and it's I just I can't
recommend it enough for everybody. I think everybody would enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think this I think this debuted at TIFF last
year in like September.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, usually, and then it took a while to come out.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
So this is like we had first heard the rumblings
literally almost nine months ago ish, and I've been since
that first moment dying to see this. I mean, I
adore Flannagan, and yeah, to get away from his usual
thing and to be getting the praise that this is getting,
I'm just so excited for that.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
And yeah and yeah, so the best thing he's done,
and I mean, that's saying a lot because he cheese.
I mean, I like everything that he's done. And of
course it's based on the story by Stephen King, and
I would say that it's it's not that the storylines
are the same, but I would say I would sort
of compare it tonally to something like stand by Me

(19:55):
Grant of course, that's one of my all time favorites as.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well, so one of his best movies by far.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
And also the cast, it's just like it has the
best ensemble, like every and it's the sort of movie
where it's so specific in the way that it's written
and the way that it's acted that every single actor,
every single character that shows up, even if it's only
for one scene, you remember them vividly after the movie's over. Yeah.

(20:25):
I mean Matthew Lillard, for example, he has one scene
in the movie and he nearly brought me to tears, like.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
He's so good one scene that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
And yeah, and I was like, all right, this is
the best performance he's ever given and it's three minutes long.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, I hope he gets I don't know if it's
just more work because he's like he's very busy on
the convention circuit, too, but I would love to just
see him in everything. He's got so much like left
in the tank of just great stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, I like that we've been seeing him a little
bit more often lately. Yeah, but like even you know,
like I loved seeing Mia Sarah in something again from
like Ferris Bueller's Day Off and Legend because she hasn't
been she has she basically retired from acting and long
a movie and I think like thirteen years Yeah, and

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Mike Flanagan specifically came to her and asked her to
be in it, and she was like, for you, I'll
do it. Amazing and it's it's a great performance from her,
so and even you know, I was even happy. I
had no idea that she was in it, Like Heather
Legan Camp is in it, and I was so happy
to see her. You know, just lots of actors that

(21:36):
you I feel like they're underutilized in film these days,
and he actually gives them solid roles. So yeah, yeah,
I was happy to see it. But it is just yeah,
it is a great, great film.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Can't wait seeing that in the Materialists on Saturday. I've
had my tickets spot. I'm actually going with KB who's
usually on the show he'll be on probably later tonight
taking the Wives. It can be a good, good day.
Can't wait.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
I can't wait to hear what you think of it.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I had a just surprisingly decent week for me with movies.
The first one which is the only like older film
that's not like a brand new release. I was asked
to be on the newest episode of the New World
Pictures podcast not been released yet, but you can hear
us go into depth on the film. A standalone from

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nineteen eighty five. This is a movie that is Charles
starring Charles Dirning, about a veteran that witnesses a murder.
You find out and either way it's atrocious. It's a
fun episode, but good lord, this movie is god awful.
Standalone is bad, bad bad. Recent watches though, that just

(22:50):
got released. The Wife and I did a triple feature
this weekend in the theater, which we don't get to
do a whole lot. Started off with the happiest film
ever made, and we watched Bring Her Back. I was
so excited to see this because I know that, like
a lot of people love Talk to Me, I didn't

(23:10):
love Talk to Me, but I really liked it a
lot I thought it had a really it showed a
lot of potential for the filmmakers. I truly adored the
sound design in it. And then Bring Her Back came
back with a lot of divisive, middling reviews. A lot
of people kind of hated it. The writing didn't work
for some people. A lot of people didn't like that

(23:31):
it was less horror and more like like visceral depression.
I guess in a way and good. I don't even
know what to say, like, I don't want to spoil
too much. This movie is great. I love this way
more than Bring Her Back. It's still not like a
five star film or anything, but I really felt this movie.

(23:53):
Oh did it go up? Ryan? I had no idea.
Thanks man, I guess the New World Pictures podcast episode
does check it out. I've been just connected part of
the pun from the internet most of the day, and
that is good to hear. Yeah, Bring Her Back has
two moments in this movie that made me physically fringe
more than any movie that I've seen in at least
the last ten to twelve years. Very interesting to see

(24:17):
where they took the lore on this. They didn't really
explain a lot, which can be a good thing. I
think this movie could have been served a little bit
with some more explanation of what was happening. I'm more
than happy to leave things up to people's interpretation. This
thing you needed to sort of explain a little bit,
like of the process of what we were seeing. And

(24:38):
if you've if you've seen it, you understand what I'm saying.
But man, this movie, this movie is good, and they
know how to write a goddamn depressing film.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Sure, yeah, I thought it was great too. Sally Hawkins.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I was about to say those two words, Sally Hawkins
is mind blowing in this movie.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
It's like the antithesis of Paddington.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
It is the anti Paddington. And yeah, it was great.
What's going on? Cubic Clover. Second feature in our double
feature was the newest Wes Anderson, the Phoenician Scheme. I
notoriously have not been too high on a lot of
Wes Anderson since I think the last one I thought
was like brilliant, brilliant was the Fantastic Mister Fox. I

(25:23):
have not hated everything or anything like that. It is
I don't know, it's just not my thing. I like,
I appreciate the ability to like ooze style into your films.
I just want there to be a little deeper story
with it, and it's pretty damn surface level with the

(25:44):
with the style basically taking center stage, and honestly, that
works for a lot of people, just doesn't work for me.
I liked the Phoenician scheme. I don't and none of
them I've not thought any of them are bad movies.
Wes Anderson is good at what he does. I just
certainly want a little bit more than what he gave
was going on RAFA Welcome to the Channel. I loved

(26:08):
the basketball scene. For anybody that's seen the Venetian Scheme,
I think it might have been the scene that stole
the entire film. Cranston and Hanks have incredible chemistry together.
Put them as the stars of it. I know they're
giant names, that would be really difficult, but put them
as like a team up something sort of buddy movie.
I really think they would give us a really great movie.

(26:28):
They had just incredible chemistry and Michael Sarah like probably
the performance of his lifetime, which he's never been bad
or anything, but he did so well in this thing.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, he was the highlight for me, and I thought
I feel like, yeah, the last Yeah, I liked it
enough too, But I did think it was one of
his weaker films. I feel like, especially recently, he's les
Anderson has overstuffed his casts with so many people who
are talented and then he basically gives them nothing characters

(27:05):
like Yeah, so many people are wasted in it. Yeah,
and it's just a shame. But I guess if he can,
if you can get the best people, I mean for
even the smallest role, I guess yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, And that's the thing. He's got the cachet to
have like a mind blowing cast in any other movie.
This cast alone is oh my god, I have to
go see this tomorrow. But Wes Anderson, I was like, Eh,
if I see it the theater, cool, If not, no
big deal. And then the surprise for me of the weekend,
I was shocked. I really enjoyed Dangerous Animals and yeah,

(27:38):
reading my letterbox review, you probably wouldn't think that I
really enjoyed it, But three and a half is pretty
decent for a film. I went into expecting what we've
gotten from most shark movies, which this kind of is
a shark movie, and not really from the last fifteen years,
which is, hey, there's like two good scenes and the
rest of the movies kind of man like, really bad acting.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I thought this was actually surprisingly great. Have I don't
think other than I had to look him up after
because I could not remember seeing him in anything. But
I'd never seen Ji Courtney in anything other than The
Suicide Squad I guess, which I don't even know what
he did in that movie. I barely remember the movie,
but yeah, I'd not seen anything else that he's known for.

(28:19):
This movie, Dangerous Animals is great. This is way more
of a serial killer movie than a shark movie, which
they hinted at kind of in the trailers and all
that stuff. But this is way better than you expect
it to be. I thought the acting was surprisingly top
notch through this entire thing. Really solid storyline, a couple
like ify plot points, but it's a movie you suspend

(28:41):
your disbelief and everything's good. I think people would enjoy
this quite a bit. And then random happenstance. We had
already started to set and print a Q and A
with the director from mister Jeremy Long and the newest
issue of The Physical Media Advocate, so I got to
read that after without any spoilers, it's it's a really

(29:02):
good movie. I think there was at least like two
really good scares in this some really great body horror.
I am not loving the ending, but everything else was
really really great in this movie.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, I agree completely with what you just say. Yeah.
I would almost say it's like Wolf Creek with sharks.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Literally, yes, and also another Aussie film which in Australia
makes some really great movie.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
And the lead actress, she was excellent, but she looked
so much like Jennifer Lawrence to me, Yeah, that's all
I could think. I mean, but she's.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I was so stoked because, yeah, the same thing. I
was like, this is good. I had no idea Jennifer
Lawrence was in this, like they never mentioned it. And
then she tilted her head. I was like, oh wait,
that's not her. Yeah she looked great. Yeah, just truly
great movie. And the big thing I don't want to
spoil much, but they there's so many voices in Dangerous

(30:01):
Animals that they could have stopped and not taken it
any further, and they don't just take it the next
step that you're like, man, if they really wanted to,
they could go there. There's two or three things of
this movie. They go like three steps beyond that. And
that's where I've really feel like international cinema that is
not based in the US truly is trumping pun with

(30:22):
the word there pretty much everything that the US can
put out when it comes to genre films like this,
because a serial killer shark movie in the US would
have held back probably four or five of these scenes
and just like kind of wuss out or not show
you all the action or the scenes that happen on
the boat, which if you've seen it, you know what
I'm talking about. Not gonna spoil any of that aspect,

(30:44):
but yeah, they do not pull back any punches whatsoever
in this movie. It is so good. Yeah, Yeah, anything
else you want to talk about before we get into announcements.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well I can talk a little bit about a few
of the things that I've want. Watched it at home
real quick. Yeah, So, starting I would say a year
or two ago, I started choosing just randomly different filmmakers
and then doing a chronological deep dive into into their work.
I found that it was a really good way of

(31:19):
sort of getting a clear sense of their growth and
evolution over over basically their whole filmography. So like last
year I did, I did Wes Anderson actually and watched
everything in order, and I found that I really appreciated
his work better doing it that way than watching just

(31:41):
each one like when it would be released like each
year or whatever. And I found that I changed my
mind on a lot of a lot of his films
watching him this way. And then I also did the
same thing with Quentin Tarantino, and I did and inspired
by You. Actually, I did On Bluth last year, yes,

(32:03):
watched all of the animated films from him, and then
so earlier this year I did Mike Lee and watch
everything from him because I hadn't really seen anything aside
from Secrets and Lies, so that was good. And then
right now I'm doing the French filmmaker Eric Romer. I'm
not sure are you familiar at all with his.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I've seen nothing. I got to be honest, I don't
know for sure that I've seen a Mike Lee movie either.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Oh really, Oh well, he's great. Mike Lee is fantastic,
And yeah, Eric Romer, I'm really enjoying it. I the
only one that I had previously seen was Pauline at
the Beach, and I had seen that back when I
was a teenager, so like you know, over twenty years ago,
and so I really didn't remember anything about it. But yeah,

(32:51):
I've been going through and watching. So a lot of
his filmography was separated into sort of different serieses. So
like Criterion released his some of his first feature films
were in the Six Moral Tales. Oh yeah, and yeah,

(33:13):
so it's like six different films and yeah, I mean
I enjoyed all of these. I've seen thirteen so far
from him, because then there was so this was the
Six Moral Tales came out in the sixties and seventies,
and then the six six films that he did in
the eighties were called Comedies and Proverbs and so, and

(33:41):
there's some fantastic ones in here, one called The Green
Ray just completely blew me away, and then another one
called The Aviator's Wife. But oddly enough, I've liked everything
I've seen of the thirteen, aside from the one that
was sort of in between the two series from nineteen
seventy six, and this had just come out from the

(34:04):
partner label Benningerson and partner label, The Marquise.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Of O Nice.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, so this was the only one that I haven't
really cared for. It wasn't It didn't throw me. It
seemed like something that was more like a work for
hire sort of project for him. It didn't seem like
it worked with everything else that he's done. But yeah,
most of his movies are I would say, they're not
big on plot. They're more about the characters and the

(34:32):
relationships between the men and women. And I think that
he just does a really good job of sort of exploring,
sort of in a thoughtful way, the different Yeah, basically
the relationship between men and women. They're very heteronormative.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I'm shocked.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
I think in the thirteen movies, I may have spotted
one gay couple in the back party scene, and.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
That was an accident. They did not mean for that
to be there.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
But still, I'm really enjoying them. So the only ones
that I have left now are he did the Tales
of Four Seasons and that was another criterion set that
came out, so I'll be doing those next.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Very nice. Yeah, stuff like that is so great. I
really wanted to to deep dive a lot of things,
and so far the only thing we've done this year
is Final Destination. The franchise. Not the same thing, not
not quite on the level of Romey.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I'm sure, Hey, I love doing a final destination. And
then quickly I'll just say so my first thought after
watching this, I had never seen this before, but my
first thought was that in the eighties, drugs were alive

(35:56):
and well because the Go Child could only have been
made this. I don't even know. It was just have
you seen it? Have you happened to see it?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I've seen it years and years and years ago. I
barely remember it. I just remember thinking, so, this is
like Big Trouble in Little China light and like very
light essentially.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
It's but I mean it's wild, like it was at
I mean, it came out in eighty six and came
out during the holidays, and I guess it was advertised
as more of a family type movie because it was
Eddie Murphy's first PG thirteen film. Yeah, but like so
he plays a wise, cracking caseworker who's like investigating missing

(36:42):
children and you like see the bodies of missing children anyone.
It's like it gets dark and then at the same
time there's like wing demons and there's like Charles Dance
transforming into a rat and then there's like in one
scene this like shredded PEPSI can starts dancing to putting
on the ritz. I just I thought I was hallucinating,

(37:02):
and I wasn't on any drugs, so I don't even know.
But I mean I had I enjoyed it, while at
the same time not really thinking it was very good.
But I will say the four K looked beautiful. They
did a great trance, a great restoration on that.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, I did not pick this one up. I'm still
considering it and likely will at some point. I think
I've got most of the vsus except for uh, like
one maybe, but I mean, yeah, great packages. And it's
Eddie Murphy like he's one of the masters, kind of on.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
It right, right, And then the last one is real quick.
I yeah, this was something that you know, because I
love horror so much, I'll oftentimes take a chance on
just really low budget stuff that I really don't know
much about, and a lot of times I'm let down.
But I was very pleasantly surprised by looking at Yes.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
This moved. Have you seen this not yet? I had
to pick it up. I just barely got it in
just a little bit of go. But yeah, like I know,
the guys that did the score and I've heard this
is incredible.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
It it really impressed me, Like, I mean, yeah, this
proves like what such a very limited budget and how
far you can go with it, you know, with the
resources that you have. So I would say that it's
it's fully found footage. I would compare it to Man
Bites Dog and the Poughkeepsie tapes, but in a more

(38:36):
modern lens, so it's set you know, modern day, and
I would say, like it gets very dark because it's
told completely from the point of view of this sort
of like lurker who's walking around his town and following
you know, women and looking in their you know windows

(38:56):
and watching them, and then you know he eventually Grant
graduates to serial killing and you know, it does get
very dark, but it doesn't have that like ick factor
that makes you feel bad afterwards, like right, which I
think that a lot of those movies do, like probably
like something like August Underground.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's one of them.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
But I was just yeah, it was just so well
done and and you know, it's a it's definitely a
slow burn, but I was I was transfixed for all
eighty minutes of it. It was just it was just fascinating.
So yeah, I highly recommend that one. And then and
then the last things that I'll say is just I

(39:44):
think it was last night. I watched twenty eight days
later Nice out of print and twenty eight weeks later,
and I hadn't seen I had seen, I hadn't seen
twenty eight weeks later since the theater, so it had
been oh my gosh, eighteen years. I can't believe that

(40:07):
it's been eighteen years since the sequel.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Well, before you talk about it, this is perfect time
to say, hang out for the entire show tonight, because
after the announcements, we're going over underappreciated sequels. We're both
going to be sharing five. And I think twenty eight
weeks later he is genuinely underappreciated sequel.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
I think it's better than the first one.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Oh, I wouldn't go that far, but.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Oh, I'm going there. I feel like, yeah, I feel
like the I like the first one, but I feel
like it sort of falls apart in the second half
when they get to that mansion.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
It does slow down a little bit, and.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
It yeah goes in a direction that, yeah, it just
doesn't really fully work for me. Twenty eight weeks later,
I just think is more interesting, And yeah, I was surprised,
Like every everywhere you look there's like these, you know,
big stars or they've become stars since then, like Jeremy
Renters in It, Rose burn Iddris Elba, like it's just

(41:07):
one after the other. You're like, oh my god, I
can't believe. But yeah, I like them both, but I
do like twenty eight weeks later, just a little bit
more man.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
The I scene in twenty eight days though, incredible, the
crow or raven scene, and then the drip and the
eye Oh yes, oh my gosh, just brilliantly filmed, brilliant.
All right, are we ready for announcements?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Then yep, let's good for it.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Before we do, I do want to say one more thing.
And I know I'm the one that just said are
we ready for announcements? But as usual, I'm going to
say something stupid to make like seventeen people unsubscribed and
I don't give a shit. So I really hope people
are paying attention to what is happening around the world
this weekend. Saturday is going to be a very busy
day across this country. Specifically, please pay attention and keep

(41:59):
yourself safe. I've already I've run the local community group
here in my city, and some of the things that
I've already seen people post and comment are terrifying me.
Protests that are happening right now that are ninety nine
point nine nine nine percent completely safe and something that
people are standing up for their rights and done in

(42:21):
a way that should not be questioned, or something that
we are doubting is being met with opposition that is
militaristic to a fault. Specifically, the Kansas City governor has
already ruled or sorry, the Missouri governor has already ruled
that Kansas City is going to be in a state

(42:42):
of emergency and deployed our National Guard. Nothing has happened,
and the National Guard is all the way on their
way here, and nonehing about that makes sense. I am.
I'm genuinely worried for what is about to go down
this weekend. I hope that it is massive thunderstorms and
DC so we don't see any parades happening, but this

(43:04):
is going to be a very telling weekend for a
lot of people. Stay safe, watch out for icy conditions,
and I hope that everybody's well, that's it, well said.
Let's talk about the keep. This is the Michael Mann
film that was released for the first time last fall

(43:26):
in HD by Vinegar Syndrome, and we are seeing what
is probably going to be the definitive release of this film.
Everybody saying, why don't we get a director's cut is
not coming, it doesn't exist. Just let's get past that.
But this announcement looks kind of incredible. Yes, it is pricey,

(43:47):
I'm not doubting that, but this thing is another one
of their giant, heavy ass releases. This thing is twenty
four by thirty three centimeters waste three kilograms. Jesus comes
with a color laminated twenty seven by forty inch folded
print of the original poster, a reprint of the five
issue comic book series by F. Paul Wilson and Matthew Smith,

(44:10):
a repro of the original press kit, repro of Lobby Cards,
hardcover booklet with eighty pages of photographs, original production material,
new essays, and a reprint of a nineteen eighty four
Fingo article. We've got a reprint of the first draft script,
a three D lenticular hard case with all four discs
for this and then a custom made transparent PVC display

(44:32):
case with anti scratch lamination Jesus. But the big thing here,
like there's all kinds of new extras, We've got multiple
new commentaries. That is all cool and all that, but
really my pride and joy that I'm excited for is
you got to go onto Disc three and Disc four.
Disc three is the documentary a World War two fairy tale,

(44:54):
the making of Michael Manns to Keep with new interviews
and featurettes, and then Disc four the Tangerine Dream soundtrack
on CD that you get to take with you, and
that is amazing. I am very tempted by this ridiculous release.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
So they just threw it together over a weekend, is
what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yes, for those that remember, Imprint Announcement is announce this
literally like the weekend that Vinegar Syndrome had theirs go
on sale to let people know it was coming. So
we've anticipated this for about eight months. Imprint has clearly
been working on this for a very long time. This
is pretty much everything that you could want on this.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, it's tempting. I have the Vinegar Syndrome one, so
that's the only reason I wouldn't get it. But I mean,
there's so much extra stuff here.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
They make it hard to decide.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Do And what makes it even harder to decide is
if you had the Vinegar Syndrome release with the slipcover,
which I believe you do, you can sell that thing
for almost the price of this version on eBay right now,
which is crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Wow. But yeah, it had been the first time that
I when The Vinegar Syndrome came out, that was the
first time I'd ever seen The Keep, And of course,
you know it had been built up so much, but
I also knew about all of the production issues that
they had, and I think you can clearly see where
somebody else, like the studio took over for Michaelmannley. I

(46:24):
feel like the first half is fantastic and so just
it's like setting itself up to be like something truly special,
and then I feel like it sort of falls apart
more in the second half. But at the same time,
like I admire it so much, I just wish that

(46:46):
we could sort of go back in time and let
Michael mann just make the movie that he wanted to make.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, I would agree there, So, Yeah, this is a
ridiculous release of The Keep. And beyond that if you are,
you know, tempted by print. First of all, I believe
this is like a little more than halfway there to
free shipping. Already, they're announcing twenty two films plus a
TV series tonight. It is going to be a crazy
night of announcements for Imprint. Those usually come during the show.

(47:14):
We'll talk about all those next Thursday. Good lord though, craziness,
all right, Moving right along. One archive posted their announcements
last week. First is Brainstorm from nineteen sixty five. This
is a brand new four K scan of the OCN.
This one is one that I am not at all

(47:35):
familiar with. It says the most fiendish idea ever conceived
by the human brain. Not a lot of names with this,
but it looked like it got some good reviews. Do
you know this one?

Speaker 3 (47:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, All eight or nine of the winner archives that
they announced for this month, I haven't seen any of them.
But I also like, I get excited each month when
they announced them, and there's so much that I don't know,
because yeah, you know, nine high out of ten. If
I take a chance and pick them up, I end
up really enjoying them. And it's so many things they Yeah,

(48:06):
I had no idea of it existed before they were announced,
so but yeah, I'm interested in most of the stuff
this month from them.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Well, and they've really kicked it up a notch, like
we never saw seven eight titles for yeah, and now
it's like, oh, let's just open the catalog and throw
everything out there. Next, this one is Bright Leaf from
nineteen fifty. Again four K scan of the OCN. This
one is in black and white. Special features on this

(48:35):
one we got some classic cartoons Bunker Hill Bunny and
Hillbilly Hare. This is a Gary Cooper Lauren to call
Patricia Neil film. Not my style of movie, but again,
I'm just glad it's gonna be archived properly for everybody.
Then the one that excited me the most Melinda from
nineteen seventy two. This one says blaxploitation superstars Calvin Lockhart,

(48:58):
Rosalind Cash, Vaneta mcguh and Jim Kelly take on the
Mob and the supercharge action packed thriller. You've already got
me high want in right there, we got a four
K scan of the OCN. This one will have the
trailer on it, not much else. I really wish they
gave some contextual extras, especially for something like this that
could use it. Blaxploitation itself is really underserved in terms

(49:20):
of supplemental features. I feel I'm not gonna really lay
into shout too much right now, but the fact that
they're putting out two Blaxploitation four K sets with no
new extras so far is crazy. But yeah, this release
looks pretty great. Then cinema Scope title. We got Knights

(49:43):
of the Roundtable from nineteen fifty three Mel Freer Avin
Gardner in this one again another four K scan of
the OCN special features. In this one we got an
intro by Mel Freyr, got newsreel footage of the Galla
Premiere CinemaScope short MGM Jubilee Overture, and then a another
CinemaScope cartoon, one Droopy Knight, which normally this would not

(50:07):
pique my interest too much, but even just seeing the
CinemaScope properly restored in four K, very curious to check
this out. Actually, Yeah, moving right along one that I've
been wanting to see for quite some time. Rachel bell
Wore wrote about this in an issue of the Physical
Media Advocate last year. I believe this is the Cobweb

(50:29):
from nineteen fifty five Richard Woodmark, Lauren MacCall, Charles Boyer,
Lillian Gish. Also in this one, this has step inside
the Castle, which is a large private psychiatric facility. Here
doctor Stewart mckiver, not mcguiver. Mckiver devotes night and day
to this profession while neglecting his pining, voluptuous wife. A

(50:51):
colleague with a fondness for booze and a pretty face
seeks to comfort the wife. Now add Lauren Bacall, Lillian Gish,
John Kerr, Susan Strasberg, oscar Levant and subplots of love,
life and derangement, and you have the entanglements of the Cobweb,
which is supposed to be great.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Maybe I'm easy, but if I hear the movie is
called the Cobweb, I'm automatically.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
All in already. I love it. This one has a
CinemaScope short on it salute to the theaters, and then a
CinemaScope cartoon the Egg and Jerry, plus the trailer, and yes,
I will be owning this one for sure. Next is
Two Weeks with Love from Warner Archive. And I don't
remember if I said at the beginning. These are all
coming on July twenty ninth, all of them on Blu Ray.

(51:37):
Reminder that they are only doing Blu Ray for the
most part, most of their titles will not be four K,
even though this one is yet again a four K
scan of the OCN. This is one with Ricardo Montabon
and Jane Powell. This one will have real memories with
Jane Powell in the interview with Robert Osborne. We got
classic short subjects, Crashing the Mud, the movies, screen actors,

(52:00):
classic text, every cartoon, Garden Gopher, and then the trailer,
which I'm glad there's quite a bit in there. Next
up The Prisoner of Zenda. This is from nineteen fifty two.
Lots of fifties titles. This month, another four K scan

(52:20):
of the OCENA. This one has the nineteen twenty two
silent version of this with Lewis Stone and Alice Terry,
an audio only radio broadcast, Lux Radio Theater with Ronald
Coleman and Douglas Fairbanks Junior, and then screen Director's Playhouse
with Coleman and John Cromwell. I'm just glad they're throwing
some extras on there this.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Month, and all I can all I can see is
the Legend of Zelda.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
When I see that, yeah, I thought the exact same thing.
And then the one that I think excited people the most.
They Died with their Boots On from nineteen forty one.
This is coming the same day. This is a Aero
Flynn and Olivia Halin title. We've got a black and
white film and special features. We got Leonard Malton hosting

(53:02):
Warner Knight of the Movies nineteen forty two at the
newsreel military short Soldiers in White, a cartoon called a
Tale of Two Kiddies All through the Night trailer, and
then a featurette they Died their boots On to Hell
or Glory, plus the trailer. Lots of stuff coming out
from one of archive. Then premiered last weekend Ballerina from

(53:27):
the World of John Wick, which I'm so, I don't
know confused while we're why we're including from the World
of X in titles now like The Jigsaw or whatever
it was called, the from the World of Jigsaw. We
didn't need that come well.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
I will say I saw this last week and that's
not on the screen ever, Like it's just called Ballerina.
It's yeah, so so I don't I don't even consider
that part of the title because it's not it's not
in the movie proper.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
So yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Anyways, the only reason they're doing that is because they
want I mean, obviously they want as many people as
possible to come. And you know, if they see that
it's just called Ballerina.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
That's the thing in twenty twenty five. Who's going to
a theater just based off of a title? I know?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Yeah, come on, but I will, I will see. I
thought it was pretty good. Yeah, I actually liked it.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I wanted to see it last weekend. Unfortunately I still
haven't seen all the John Wick titles, so I declined.
This is coming soon in a Walmart exclusive four kse
steel book in the US from the Lionsgate and so
that is your option here, and if that is not
something that is appeasing you, you can head on over
to Amazon and get this Amazon exclusive four K steel book.

(54:46):
This one is another Lion's Gate title. Kind of crazy
to have two different retailer exclusive titles, but it's John
Wick and that franchise, which is literally probably the most
milked title from the last ten twelve years from any
franchise there are so many releases of the first John
Wick film, It is wild. Next up, Late Night with

(55:12):
the Devil from last year is getting a four K
Stel book here in the US from Shutter. It is
decent looking steel book. I don't think I've ever heard
from you what you thought of this, because I'm sure
you saw this one. Would you think, oh yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
So I like it a lot, but I have one
problem with it. It it opens This isn't like really
a spoiler, but it opens with sort of documentary footage
sort of.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
This is my problem too.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yes, you know, basically you know, telling the origin of
you know, the talk show and this host, and you
know how he came to have this show, and then
it naturally should have an ending that basically is a
book to that tells you what happens after the show

(56:04):
that you know the movie is based on. And it doesn't.
So I feel like it drops the ball because if
it's if it's you know, pretending to be you know,
an episode of a late night show from the seventies
or whenever you know it's set, then naturally history would
tell you what happened after the show was over, and

(56:26):
it doesn't tell you that. And so I feel like
it's it. It sort of leaves you with an unsatisfied feeling,
even though what's there I really like, but I just yeah,
is that? Is that what you were going to say that?

Speaker 2 (56:41):
And like the the other bookend is a problem obviously,
but the mixing of the conceits like you start off
making it look like you're actually filming in the seventies
with this old school camera style, and then they quickly,
very quickly give up on that, and the found footage
can see is like, oh, we're filming backstage in the

(57:02):
seventies with this massive HD camera that will immediately pull
you out. We don't get all of the filtering that
they wanted, and it feels, I don't know, so like disjointed.
And that stuck out to me a lot as somebody
that really likes fund footage. And actually we're gonna talk
about fan footage in just a minute. But yeah, I

(57:22):
didn't love this movie. I thought it was the story
was good, and the performance is fine. Nothing against that
just could have been so much better.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Yeah, I'll agree with that.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Next up one that I've heard is really fun. July
twenty second Blu Range DVD releasing in the us of
Fight or Flight with Josh Hartnett. This is coming from
Vertical Entertainment, no special features. From what I can see,
you can pre order this now no four K, although
this is the type of title that screams to me,
we'll get a German four K. So if you liked

(57:55):
this movie, I would wait like a good four or
five months if you're really holding out for that. I
have a feeling like Turbine would would be the ones
to rescue something like this.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Yeah, and yeah, I'm so happy for Josh Hartnett, like, yes,
Mac after all these years and getting lots of good
roles again and he's just yeah, he's so good in this.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
So Sibner is asking, stuck in a locked room, are
we watching Late Night with the Devil or in a
Violent Nature? What do you what? Are you picking dustin.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
In a Violent Nature? Because I actually really liked that movie,
and I know you don't like it, but I'm a
big fan of it.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
I will watch Late Night with the Devil in a
heartbeat over in a Violent Nature. I will never watch
that or the sequel ever again. This one is you.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Gotta give it one more chance.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Come on, I have the Friday the thirteenth video game.
I'll just go play that. This one is really interesting.
You can get this now. It's not a pre order
or anything like that, but it is a BDR released
as a self release title of cap In Dimo Versus
the cow Master. That title alone, mixed with the art

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that those that are watching live can see is wild.
But let's go through this real quick. So Captain Dimo
Versus the Cow Master is a fond homage to the
weekly movie serials of the thirties, forties, and fifties. It
follows the exploits of Captain Dimo, a hero no secret identity.
He is always Captain Dimo. Along with the sidekick Cuffey,
he sets out to right the wrongs of the city

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he calls home. Trouble and danger arrive suddenly, when a
fiendish archvillain, the cow Master, invades the city and begins
a reign of terror and vandalism to gain power and
ultimately rule the world. It is up to Captain Dimo
to thwart his evil designs, if only he can so.
Now the other aspect of this that makes it super interesting.
This action comedy was filmed in Massachusetts on sixteen millimeter

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black and white film all the way back in nineteen
seventy six, and though the shooting wasn't finished until seventy
seven or sorry, the shooting was finished in seventy seven,
it had never actually been completed. They never finished the
movie until last year time and funds became available and
post production finally began. In twenty nineteen. They did a
film out transfer in two K digital. This long gest

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dating film ended its epic road to completion in twenty
twenty four and is now ready to premiere, almost fifty
years after his actually first shot. So the disc is
going to include a cast and crew commentary, It's got
the directors talking about it at the film premiere, a trailer,
three ft feature restaurant behind the scenes. But there are

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some names with this that people would recognize. The biggest
one Larry Blumir is a part of this, and Bob
Gifford is the director. It's a labor of love. The
fact that they put so much work into this is
just crazy that they were able to pull it off.
I am so stoked. This is one I definitely want
to check out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
So is the director? Is the director still alive?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I believe everybody is somehow, so alive. Oh wow, crazy. Yeah,
Bob Gifford was there for the premiere and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
So was he able to was he personally able to
finish it? Then?

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yes? Yes, this is all done in house like this
is just some dudes that are still friends fifty years
later that filmed everything then and they put it together
and finished the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Oh wow yeah yeah, I might be interested in this too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
If you are looking forward to this, check it out.
This is so funny. Captain Captain Dimo is the I
can't even say the title Captain di Move versus the
Cowmaster dot com. I'm shocked that they could get that
url that wasn't taken the trailer. Give it a watch.

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I think it's worth it. If you are into it,
you will be very happy. Uh. Next, Keino announced that
coming soon on Blu ray The Wrong Arm of the
Law from nineteen sixty three. It's got a four K
restoration from Studio Canal in twenty twenty three. It is
Michael Caine Peter Sellers that has incredible reviews, but not

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one I have ever had a chance to see. But
I mean, can't really go wrong with Sellers and Michael Kane.
This one I had never heard of this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Did you see the Actor now?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Okay? So Dkel on July fifteenth is releasing The Actor,
which premiered the last year, and this says. In this
existential romance, New York actor Paul Cole finds himself stranded
in a mysterious small town with no memory of who
he is or how he got here. With no sense
of identity or purpose, he starts from scratch and begins
courting a local costume designer, Edna. As bits and pieces

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of his past slowly emerged, he attempts to find his
way home. Has anybody seen this? I would love to
hear that if this is good?

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Yeah, I hadn't even Yeah, I hadn't heard of it
before this announcement. I mean it sounds really intriguing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Yeah, it's a sinner says. It's called The Majestic. Yeah,
this is a less action y version of The Borne Identity.
Just kidding. I'd be interested in seeing it, all right.
Kenos soon are releasing the second Twin from nineteen sixty six.

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This's got a four K restoration by Studio Canal. This
is also called The Other Truth and continues their reign
of films from this era. In this part of the world.
I'm sure this is one that you've not had a
chance to catch.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
No, I haven't seen those one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
I don't think anybody in the world has ever seen this.
But I'm glad Keno's releasing. Lionsgate Limited pissed off some
people this week with their announcements, which a lot of
people were happy with them. But this is you know,
always going to be a problem with the lions Gate
Limited when they are going to be exclusive to their site.

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So let's get into it on the first release. This
is July fifteenth, a four K release from lions Gate
of Frailty from two thousand and one. This is Bill
Paxton's directorial debut. Is rather good and in this release
not a steel book. By the way, a lot of
people see lines Gate Limited and they immediately assume steel book.

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Not a steel book. You get a four K with
Dolby Vision, brand new art that looks really good. There's
the big thing to me printed reproduction of Bill Paxson's
original shooting script, which is crazy. They wanted to point
out that they were incredibly lucky to have access to
Bill Paxson's original shooting script, a rare and meaningful opportunity

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that offered a direct window in his creative process. We
did our best to preserve the authenticity of the document
in this booklet, keeping elements like the upside down pages
and the original notes, even when they stretched beyond standard margins.
Despite these challenges, were thrilled for fans to experience this
piece of film history and to witness the Karen heart
that Bill poured into the project. They've got a bunch

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of legacy features on here and then brand new features
Father Figure, establishing shot with David Blocker, more stories from
the Frailty set, a teaser, and a theatrical trailer. This
looks like a really cool release, but again limited to
the lines Gate Limited website, not gonna be anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
That's pretty insane that they are actually including Yeah, Bill
Paxton's shooting script in each copy, like that's yeah. When
I saw this, I instantly pre ordered it. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm I'm a little bit mixed on the lions Gate
Limited stuff, like especially well, I think one that's coming

(01:05:31):
up soon, like the the vestaurants moving over there. But
I will say that, I mean, so far everything that
I've gotten has been really high qualities.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
So oh agree, yeah, it's lines Gate. It better be
at this point. Uh. Jaden says, I wish they had
a free shipping threshold. They do, it's a one hundred
dollars uh, they just don't advertise it. Free shipping starts
at a hundred Bucksteed. The hard part is for a
lot of like with lines Gate limited, they are they

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are genuinely limited, and so after a while they will
be out of print and you can't get these anymore.
But the big thing is they're releasing good titles, and
that's why people are pissed is these could do well
on Amazon, at Walmart, on you know, selling a diabolic
everywhere if lines Gate made their stuff available everywhere. But
if you're like buying stuff as they announce them, they're

(01:06:25):
only announcing maybe at most three times, not sorry, three titles,
not the times, but usually it's one or two, and
that unless something stays in stock that you want, you're
not going to get up to that one hundred dollars
price point. So that is that is a tough thing.
But I don't know, if it's a title you love,
like a lot of people love Frailty, you don't want

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to miss out on it, do you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Have a theory on why they've moved to this limited
sort of you know, like I mean unless you're really
in know, like you know, like us with with physical media,
like a lot of people would never know that this exists, yeah,
you know, they would never know to go to that

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website unless.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yeah, you're right. I genuinely think this is literally only
rooted in money. And I'm not saying it's necessarily about greed.
I think they probably did like a cost assessment and
found out that when they released stuff on Amazon or
in Walmart, they don't they're maybe they're not even able
to recoup all the costs. A lot of the stuff

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is semi expensive. I mean, reproducing a shooting script costs
a lot of money for sure. As somebody that's done
stuff like that behind the scenes, it's a lot of work.
And now, like I don't know, a title like this
is different. I feel like it would have done well
and maybe lines Get Limited could have had the shooting
script and release it widely as a standard edition. That
would have been fine. So this this sucks, Like there's

(01:07:54):
so many people that that could could appreciate this and
they don't get a chance to see it. Give us
a standard edition.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Right, I have one more question about this. I think
it was the first lions Gate limited release that they did.
It was the Conversation in four K. Yep, do you
think they're gonna do a more regular edition of that
down the line? It's no bulky like I want that

(01:08:24):
so bad, but I just I've been holding out because
because yeah, it's just like I don't need all of
the extra stuff that's with it, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
I agree fully. The hard part is I would suggest
people go for the Studio Canal standard that they released
over in the UK. You can get it for like
thirty bucks. Diabolic is carrying it. Orbit carries it. It
may not be in stock right now, but absolutely to
give a middle finger to this, Lion's Gate doesn't deserve
it for something like that. Completely agree, it's expensive and
it's not worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Yeah, I'll do that. I actually I had forgotten about
the Studio Canal version.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
So yep, A look at that. Mozart's ghost was saying
that UK got the regular edition. For the conversation, somebody
was asking I missed a couple things about Lionsgate here.
Totally get the argument against lions to get limited, but
they're getting me. That makes sense. Ryan totally get it.
Jaden says, it's kind of crazy that one hundred dollars

(01:09:20):
is legit. Four restaurant titles. Now, what's worse is, like,
I understand the sentiment here because suddenly Vestron was in
Walmart for twelve bucks and everybody went crazy. So many
people weren't buying restaurant titles for the first four years
that they were out there. The first eighteen restaurant titles
were released at thirty dollars and never went on sale.

(01:09:42):
It took until number nineteen in the restaurant titles for
them to start lowering the prices. And so it used
to be three and a half restaurant titles and you
should be happy now that it's only four. Wellshit, come on,
you own the rights to these. These should not be
that expensive. Lions Gate that is so not worth it.
Keith is saying, how limited are are they? Not? Just
the slip of the release itself, so they don't advertise this.

(01:10:04):
But I believe, based on what I've read on the
forums is that it's for the most part ten thousand,
especially the Steel books. But there's a couple of them
that went a little faster, And the only way that
we're knowing the inventory is if you do the browser
trick to go look at the inventory, and even then
they're adding stuff after the first print run, so basically

(01:10:26):
like they get replenished at their warehouse once and then
it goes out of print and it's hard to keep
track of it's rough and gary. No, you can't get
this from Diabolic. Diabolic will not have it, Orbit will
not have it. Nobody else will have it unless Jesse
from Diabolic goes and buys them full price from Lionsgate
because they're not doing wholesale on these, and then sells
them to you for like a five or six dollars

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markup at least. And at that point, if you really
want it, you should just get it from Lionsgate Limited.
But the way to push back on stuff like this
is just not buy them. It's hard. I totally get it,
especially if you love the titles like Frail T four
K Is that going to happen elsewhere? Probably not? Sucks.

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And then if that's not enough from lines Gate Limited. Yes,
like we alluded to, Goolies three aka Goolies Go to
College from nineteen ninety is number thirty four in the
Vestron Video collection twenty five dollars from the lines Gate
Limited line too expensive. This should have been cheaper than that.
That is ridiculous, especially after they've released triple features for

(01:11:35):
like twelve dollars. That is crazy. This is for the
first time anywhere on Blu Ray. There may have been
like a gray market release in Germany or something. This
is going to have an audio commentary with TJ. Bowser
Paul Ashford of Project Louder Mister Carter goes to College,
Goolies and gags behind the screenplay of Goolies go to College,

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out of the Bowl making the monsters and then trailers
in a stills gallery. I'm glad this is getting a release.
Everybody is like, why not four K? Vestron is still
never released a four K, so probably not gonna happen
anytime soon. I think if they were going to do it,
they would have done it for some of the other titles.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
But yeah, I love the tagline out of the Bowl
and totally out of control.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Ghulies. Yeah, Craig is saying. I feel like I should
point out the expectation of free instant shipping is a
very new thing. It only exists because of Amazon. I
wasn't even talking about the shipping honestly, although I guess
I should point out the shittiest thing about Lionsgate Limited
is that it's only available to the US. They don't
ship anywhere else in the world. So if somebody loves

(01:12:45):
Goolies three and wants it on Blu Ray for the
first time, now, if you don't live in the US,
you're just screwed. You can't get it. Sucks. That was
not the final title. Oh did you want to say
more about gooleis go ahea? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
No, no, okay. I was looking at the chat and
somebody mentioned there's a Goalies four, and I'm not sure
I even knew there was a four.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
There is a fourth one, and it still doesn't have
a Blu Ray anywhere. The last title also coming on
July fifteenth. This is a four K of The Surfer.
This is the Nicholas Cage film that just came out.
I think this got a wide release in twenty twenty five,
but played like some select premieres in twenty twenty four.
This is gonna have Dolby Vision, got an audio commentary
with the director, and then I'm making of and a trailer.

(01:13:30):
I've heard this is great. Did you get a chance
to see this one?

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Yeah? I saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
What'd you think?

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
I was not a fan of it. Yeah, I know
that a lot of people really liked it. It's very
typically I like that, it's very surreal. I would say,
I typically I like that in a movie. But yeah,
I don't want to give too much away, but basically,

(01:13:57):
like the setup is that, Yeah, Nicholas, I don't know
if you know what the premises, but Nicholas Cage is
like a businessman who he used to live on the
beach as a child, and he has really great memories
of it, and he wants to buy a beach house
on the beach where he grew up. And he has

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like a teenage son, so he sort of wants to
connect with him, and he like runs into Yeah, these
these surfer it's like a surfer gang who don't want
him anywhere near their turf, and he like gets basically
he gets stranded in in like the parking lot of

(01:14:40):
this beach area, and basically the whole movie is is
more or less said in this parking lot. And I
just kept wondering, like when is he give up this dream?
Like leave, go home, and he just will not leave.
This plays so it's almost and then and then you

(01:15:02):
have to start wondering, like is he in hell? Is
it like a metaphor for that? Like, because it goes
so far out of reality that it just has you
questioning exactly what's going on. I found it really interesting
but also frustrating. But I will say Nicholas Cage, Yeah,
he gives another great unhinged performance.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
So Jason from the Force five podcast is here. He says,
it's wild. The meme ability of this film is insane.
I've heard it's surreal. I've really done see it. Uh.
Then he says, wasn't exactly my cup of tease a hole?
But Cage is awesome, isn't he always? Isn't he always?
So yeah, this looks like a great release if you're

(01:15:47):
into it. I believe this is the only four K
release of this film that's been announced worldwide, and the
UK release has already been announced, so probably not getting
another four K. And supposedly, I'm sure you could attest
to it. Supposedly the this are amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Oh yeah, And the majority of it is set in
the daytime really like sort of like a sun bleached
look to it. Yeah, it'll really pop nice nice.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Hey. We just talked about this before we went into
the announcements, But the newest issue of the Physical Media
Advocate is out and put a lot of work into
this one. I'm super proud of this cover. Planet Mondo
killed it with this, and it goes with our featured
article this month, which is on the Physics of Cinema,
which I think is just really really fun, great stuff.
I got a piece on the Devils the Dark, Peter Lorie,

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Dangerous Animals, a bunch of other stuff, another edition of
bad movie Posters, some some puzzle work, and yeah, fun
issue and I'm very very excited for people to see
what comes out of July. Gonna be a good one. Friendship,
What did you think of Friendship?

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
There, Dustin, It's grown on me since i've seen it.
Like I when I first when it first ended, I
didn't know quite what to think of it because it
sort of really doesn't offer up many easy answers at
the end and sort of makes you, even though it's
a comedy, it sort of makes you feel bad. Oh yeah,

(01:17:14):
and it makes you feel sad for the character. But
at the same time, like set since I've seen it,
I just keep coming back to so many different scenes
and lines in it and just the insanity of it.
And also it's so cringe like, but I love I
love cringe humor. Same.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Have you watched Tim Robinson stuff outside of this?

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
I was, I was unfamiliar with him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Wow, you should probably watch at least a few episodes
if I think you should leave on Netflix. He is
so good, so good.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
And I will say, in addition to him, like and
and Paul Rudd, I thought Kate Merrow was really good
in it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Like, yes, quite good.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Yeah, the whole thing with yeah, I won't give it away,
but the whole thing with the tunnel is just insane.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Where's your mom in the sewers? So yeah, Friendship coming
on Blu ray from A twenty four in August. I
love this movie. I thought it was great. I've also
really loved Tim Robinson for a while. Anybody that doesn't
seen Detroiter should watch that as well. It's really good,
very similar style. I think you would appreciate it a lot. Yeah,

(01:18:28):
this movie was just so good. This will have a
director commentary on it. The DP is also on the commentary.
Conormalley's on it. It's got some deleted scenes. There's an extended
Q and A from men talking in the Dark Conra Omalley,
extended garage scene. I believe they said it was fourteen
minutes long on this, which is wild. And then they've

(01:18:51):
got six collectible collectible postcards. That being said, I don't
love what A twenty four is doing with their releases.
I feel like they could give so much more to
these films. I'm glad that they're sort of doing it
themselves and got their own unique style and all that,
but man, the supplemental features could be better. And we
don't need the postcards. Save the money on the postcards

(01:19:13):
and do either nothing and save I don't know, drop
the price by two bucks, but just we don't need
six cards from Friendship. Come on, let's see everybody's happy.
Friendship is a movie that I enjoyed in the moment,
but I don't think it worked for me as well

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as many of its fans. Says Terry. Yeah, I think
you've really got to be all in on that cringe
humor to be super thrilled with it. I have never
seen this, but man, what I've read this week is
making me dying to see it in August.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
I've always wanted to see this one and never have either.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
It looks so good. August twenty sixth, Studio canal Over
in the UK giving us a blu ray of Fresh
from nineteen ninety four. This is a movie start during Gean, Carlosposito,
Samuel L. Jackson. We've got brand new interviews with some
people from the film, quite a few brand new interviews actually,
and then some archival pieces and again I don't know,

(01:20:13):
I've never seen this heard it's great and dying to
see it. Very very eager. Brian says, Fresh is very good.
First sat on laser disc. Imprint also did this one.
I think Imprint did.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Yeah, I have the Imprint No way.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Interesting, I don't remember that at all. Music Box Films
on June twenty fourth, which for the record is only
in twelve days. Very quick announcement here they're releasing ephis
from this year, which I had heard was getting a release,
but I don't think displayed anywhere near me. This is
supposed to be pretty good, this says. As an imminent

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construction project looms over their beloved baseball field, two New
England recreational teams playball for the last time. As day
turned into night and innings bleed together, the players chat, laugh,
and squabble as they face the uncertainty of a new
era named for a rare curveball Carson LUNs poignant comedies
and oda sports community in the Passage of Time, and

(01:21:12):
I really want to check this one out. The trailer
for this looked really good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
I've heard from people who have seen it at different
film festivals that it is really good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Nice, very nice. We talked about this a couple of
weeks ago, so we won't spend a lot of time here.
But August twelfth, Kino is doing that standalone release of
nineteen forty nine's The Great Gatsby. It's got all the
same extras as will be on the disc that's coming
in their Film Noir box set. I think that one's
in number twenty seven, twenty six or twenty seven. Good lord,

(01:21:45):
they've done so many box sets.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
But yeah, that is that is the same one as this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Exact same disc, So if you're planning on getting the
box set, you don't need to worry about getting this
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
I'm in. I'm in for the last twenty five, so
I guess I gotta cu.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
You gotta stop now, please, I draw the line at
twenty five film noir.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
I never, I never when I started collecting them at
the beginning. I never, in my wildest dreams would have
thought that they would keep going. And now it's stuck.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
And I know that we've joked about this every time,
but now that they are so close to the thirtieth one,
they have to do something silly with box xxxx right,
like you have to do like a box of neo
noir rock thrillers or something. Please please make it work.
Speaking to Keno, August twelfth, they're giving us a Blu

(01:22:34):
Ray of Save the Tiger from nineteen seventy three. This
one was also released by Imprint. Speaking of how we
just talked about that, this one will have the audio
commentary with the director and the writer producer. We'll also
have a new audio commentary with Dwayne Epstein. Nothing else
on this but those two audio commentaries. But this one
should be available pretty cheap. And I believe this is

(01:22:56):
the first Blu Ray release of this in the States,
if I remember right. So pretty exciting for people that
love this movie. And Jack Lemon, like the dude's always great.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Yeah, this is one that I've yeah, I've always wanted
to see and did did Imprint do a Jack Lemon
box set? I don't think so, Okay, I feel like
I I yeah, I don't think so either, But I yeah,
because I thought that I had this, but maybe I
never got it from Imprint. But so if I don't,

(01:23:27):
I'll get this one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Ooh. It says out of stock on the Imprint site,
so this one might be out of print from them.
Oh okay, Oh and they also that's right, they did
the Odd Couple as well, which is the other big
Jack Lemon thing. Uh, there you go. Paul from Australia's
Imprint has not done a Jack Lemon set. Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Next another keynot title. August twelfth, they are doing a
pre Code Classics double feature set. This one include Confessions
of a co Ed and Ladies of the Big House,
both from nineteen thirty one. This is going to have
a new audio commentary with David del Val and Stan Schaeffer,
and that's on both films. So that's pretty cool. I

(01:24:10):
like this idea that they're doing some pre code sets,
probably the only way that we would get some of
these released. A lot of times they're not even like
a full hour long, and to be able to get
this released like this, you sort of got to do
something to cut some cost and so I get that.
I'm glad that they're doing an audio commentary on both sets,

(01:24:30):
but yeah, this is pretty cool and eventually I will
probably pick this up. Pre code stuff give us more. Next,
Shameless over in the UK is putting out What Have
They Done to Your Daughters? From nineteen seventy four. This
is coming on July seventh. There are at least one

(01:24:54):
new feature I believe, yes, I don't think everything else
is new, but this says the unused hardcore footage from
Enigma editor Siciliano reveals all and they really hype it
up here, he says. This edition also includes a frank
interview with the film editor Antonio Siciliano, Dalamano's longtime friend

(01:25:15):
and collaborator who crafted the final cut of Daughters. He
finally addresses the long standing rumors about the film's unused
additional material, which that alone entices me. I don't think
that was on the Arrow release, which is sort of compelling,
and honestly, kudos to Shameless. This is the first time
I've seen the Shameless announcement and gone, wow, I kind

(01:25:36):
of want that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Yeah, I have the arrow of the Yeah, this is
a great Giallo. Yeah, I'm a really big fan of
this and sort of the pseudo sequel what have they
done to Solange yep, which it actually makes me curious
if they're going to be doing that one next.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
That would be possible. I believe both have gone out
of print from ARO a long time ago. Those were
pretty early releases, but.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Yeah, they're both definitely worth worth seeing for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Then we got some Radiance announcements. These are all coming
in September. We'll talk about the dates and where they're
coming out from the first one is a UK specific title.
This is coming on September fifteenth on four K or
Blu Ray. This got a severin restoration. Was just released
in the States by Severn and that is In My

(01:26:27):
Skin from two thousand and two. This is one of
the first new French extremity movement titles that everybody associates
with it. However, this has all kinds of new bonus features.
We had a lot of new interviews, two short student
films that are not on I think the shorts are
on the student are on the Severn release, but a
lot of the interviews are not. This has newly improved

(01:26:49):
English subs. There is of course a limited booklet with
new writing in their Radiance just putting out beautiful looking sets.
And I know for a lot of people that may
have just recently got The Severn, this has got to
be frustrating because this is probably quite appealing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Yeah I got Yeah, I got the Severn and I
haven't watched it yet, but maybe i'll do that soon
and if I love it, maybe I'll consider getting this
one as well. But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Yeah, And that's obviously that's the big question with a
lot of these titles. You don't necessarily need to double dip,
but wanting to double dip.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Yeah, it's gotta be so hard when you see that
they've put so much work into adding you know, the
new special features, like it's hard to sometime times.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
And like Corin said, the the the artwork alone on
Radiance stuff is like damn, you could frame every single
cover that they've done.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Yeah, yeah, this is gorgeous. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
That being said, the seven split case slip cover thing
they did pretty nice too. Next up, this is UK only,
so not us from Radiance September fifteenth, World Noir Volume
four box set. This is going to include in it.
We've got Henry. That's probably the wrong way to say that.

(01:28:07):
It's probably Henri de Quo, something like that Chanoff from
nineteen fifty five. Definitely not French. I apologize Edward Molinaro's
Back against the Wall from nineteen fifty eight and Marcel
blue Wall's Paris pick Up from nineteen sixty two. This
has two K restorations on each film. We've got new artwork,

(01:28:27):
newly improved English subs limited eighty page perfect bound book
with a bunch of writing in it. Commentaries on these
are archival. We got an archival interview on the first
title as well, new visual essay, new commentaries, one from
Daniel Kramer, one from Tim Lucas. Not necessarily stuffed to
the gills, but getting three of these titles together, I know,

(01:28:49):
is the way that they're making it worth it for
a lot of people. Again, the box looks gorgeous. So
if you like art and that is something that you
make choices with, you got kind of adore, uh, you
got to kind of adore radiance because it's all great.
Have you been get I think You've gotten quite a

(01:29:10):
bit from Radiance.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
Right, Yeah, I've gotten, but I didn't. I didn't start
collecting these World Norths. That's like I'm too busy collecting
the Quino Nors. That's even though these are probably better,
these are probably.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
I could never admit that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Probably actual noir titles.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Yeah, I get it, and these, I mean, Qino will
give you three titles for twenty five bucks. This will
end up being like forty five. I get it, I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Get it, but it definitely Yeah, it looks good. Maybe
one day I'll lurge and get them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
All after their out of print and costs three times
as much. Next up September fifteenth in the UK and
September sixteenth in North America. The next Radiance title is
A Blue Way, Blue Way, Blu Ray of Los Gulfos
from nineteen sixty two. This is a group of poor
youths tear around Madrid pulling scams and petty crimes. As

(01:30:08):
one of their gang prepares to perform in a serious
bullfighting competition, they plan a heist that will raise the
money to finances entry, breaking with tradition by filming in
the streets and utilizing documentary techniques to give the film
an urgent resonance. Carlos Sora and producer Perry Portobella were
announced as a powerful new force in Spanish cinema when
the film was nominated for the Palm Door at the

(01:30:28):
can Festival. And this is restored in four K. You've
got all kinds of stuff on this disc. There is
a really really crazy amount here. We got an intro
by the author and former director of Filmoteca Catalunya Esteve
Riambo from twenty twenty five, a bunch of new interviews
scenes affected by censorship and presented alongside notes from the

(01:30:51):
censorship committee. That alone is such a really interesting thing.
Two early short films by Sora as well, reversible sleeve
as usual, and then a booklet with writing, this to
me seems like one that I'm probably gonna have to
pick up. I don't have a lot from Spain, and
this is just a really great sounding, interesting piece of filmmaking.

(01:31:14):
I don't know. I also say that this looks like
a must for me.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Yeah, this is the sort of thing I had never
heard of before this announcement.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
But just y, I feel like I've heard of maybe
ten percent of radiance and stuff before They announced it. Yeah.
Next is The Betrayal from nineteen sixty six, also from Radiance,
also September fifteenth in the UK and September sixteenth in
North America. This one is another one of their Asian titles. Again,

(01:31:46):
beautiful looking cover art as usual, select scene audio commentary
by Tom Mess which is interesting to get a select
scene commentary. I'm very curious why on that, because Tom
Mess usually has a lot to talk about. We got
a visual essay by Philip Kemp on this. We got
a visual essay by Tom Mess on the director Tokuzo Tanaka,

(01:32:07):
and then a booklet with new writing by Elaine Silver,
limited to three thousand copies over in the UK. Next up,
Third Window Films, also from the UK, putting out another
one of their box sets. They haven't done one of
these in quite a while. This is coming on July
twenty eighth on Blu Ray and I am going to

(01:32:27):
absolutely butcher this name, so I apologize in advance. I'm
gonna say it's Zoltan Husharik something like that that is
probably very incorrect, but it's called Sinbad Constavari. And then
five short films, so this is gonna be a three
Blu ray box set. You've got the feature film from
nineteen seventy one, another feature film from seventy nine, and

(01:32:49):
then five short films to make it a complete full
box set. On top of that, you've got new four
K restorations of the features, and then some four K
scans of some of the shorts, an HD transfer on
one of them, and then some appreciations one that I
am incredibly interested in seeing. Peter Strickland speaks on the
vision of these and if you've never watched Peter Strickland film,

(01:33:12):
please do. One of the best modern filmmakers. Lots of
other stuff that's coming on here. Third sorry not Third Window.
They're another great company, Second Run DVD over in the UK.
This is region free they always are, but they put
so much love into their work and they don't get
a lot of attention worldwide. Check it out. It is

(01:33:33):
really really interesting to see stuff like this happening. Yeah,
Second Run check them out please. This one is super cool.
August twelfth, in the US, Rarero is releasing the medium
from nineteen eighty as usual, going through Keena Lober Distribution.

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This is an insidiously creepy supernatural horror film from the
director Silvio a Madio. Following the death of his wife,
an American music composer moves to an old mansion in
Rome with his young son. They are soon haunted by
a series of inexplicable events, causing them to hire a
medium to divine the true nature of their seemingly cursed existence.
We got an audio commentary by the host of the

(01:34:16):
Wild Wild podcast Adrian Smith and Rod Barnett and RaRo
does some great stuff when they finally come out. Yeah,
I mean the cover alone makes me excited about this.
The story sounds great. Very intrigued by this. Oh, look
at this. Tyler's helping me out. I think SZ makes
a Z sound like a lizard. Z S makes a

(01:34:38):
z H sound like the ge and garage. So, in
other words, I was very wrong. The Little Things from
twenty twenty one is getting a four K release from
Warner Brothers. This is a mod four K release that
should not scare You just want people to know that
they are able to do this. So this is made

(01:34:59):
onto and it's not burned. It's still a press disc.
They just make it literally as it's ordered essentially, which
is crazy. But this is a Denzel Washington, Remi Melick,
and nobody else starring in this movie. Did you see
The Little Things when it came back?

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
I did. I. Yeah. I don't know if I'm the
only one, but I was really excited with this announcement.
I thought this was a great movie. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
The only other thing I've ever heard people say about
it is this movie was truly boring.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
Oh, I mean I was riveted by it. I mean,
but maybe maybe I'm on a different wavelength than there,
but I thought it was it was it reminded me
of I mean, it's fictional, so obviously you know it's
it's but it reminded me. You know, it's about a
serial killer, true crime investigation. It reminded me a lot

(01:35:53):
of Zodiac in a way. Not but again, it is fictional.
It's not you know, basically story. And I wouldn't say
obviously it's as good as Zodiac is, but I but
I did really enjoy it. And the thing that I
most remember about it that really sticks with me, the

(01:36:15):
opening scene is genuinely terrifying. It's set in nineteen ninety
and there's like a teenage girl who's driving down you know,
this desolate desert highway, and at night and she starts
to get followed by somebody and she it basically turns

(01:36:39):
into a sort of cat and mouse game between the
two of them, and they use the B fifty two's
song Roam, and they use it. You know, it's such
an upbeat song, but they use it in a way
that just is really chilling. And yeah, it was just
I just thought it was so well done. So that's

(01:37:01):
what really sticks with me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
I mean, I will want to see anything with Denzel
Washington just period. He's you know, literally one of the
best actors of all time. For some reason, when this
came out, I had not even heard of it, So
I'm curious to see this.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was definitely one of those
that sort of got lost in the shuffle during COVID because, yeah,
it came out in twenty twenty one, I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Believe nice All right, after the Little Things, We've got
some details on Final Destination Bloodlines. This is coming in
July twenty second on four K. It's got a standard
four K release, a steel Book four K release, and
then a Blu ray release and a DVD release. Thanks
Warner Brothers for putting out on DVD. Still this title

(01:37:51):
is going to have Dolby vision HDR. We've got Dolby
at most. We got an audio commentary from the director,
which is pretty cool. Death Becomes Them on the set
of Final Destination Bloodlines, catching up with the new cast
and the dynamic directing duo to hear about their experiences
on set and what they managed to sneak in for
the fans. The many deaths of Bloodlines, from the collapse

(01:38:12):
of the Skyview Restaurants to the worst MRI. There's behind
the scenes about all of the deaths in the movie.
But the really cool thing is they got a special
little legacy featurette on Tony Todd reflecting on his decades
spanning legacy of his character here, and he re examines
Bloodworth's impact on the franchise now that everything has been revealed.
Oh wow, Yeah, pretty damn cool. And to get the

(01:38:35):
last special feature with Tony Todd, I feel like I
kind of have to have to get this. Plus it
was a great movie. I'm very stoked on this.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
I was, Yeah, I really liked this one. Yeah, I
think it was. I think it might be my second favorite. Honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Yeah, it's up there for me. It's it's either favorite
or second favorite at this point, probably but if you
haven't got enough of Final Destination on the same day
they are releasing. Of course, like they always do a
sixth film collection, each of the movies will have special features,
which is rather cool. This will likely not have the

(01:39:13):
three D discs. This will probably be the exact same
as the last Blu Ray collection that they did with
the addition of the sixth film. Of course, that being said,
this has been the funniest h oh it was Jason's favorite,
too nice. This has been the probably second favorite part
of my week this week is arguing with people who
think that Warner Brothers will be releasing a full franchise

(01:39:36):
Final Destination four K release in just a few months
after everybody buys this. They won't. There's there's no way
that they release a full franchise four K set of this.
A couple of these were not filmed in a way
that will work on four K, and nobody is going
back to like the Final Destination and getting all of

(01:39:57):
this the really awful CGI and putting that in a
way that will look at on four K. It's just
not gonna happen. I could see them doing maybe up
to the first three on four K, considering that those
three were shot on film, but that's if even that,
I probably only really see them doing the first one
on four K, probably nothing else.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
Yeah, well, you've just broken my heart because I was
gonna because I was gonna be one of those people
in chime In. I was like, I was gonna say
I saved my one complaint about four K for this
because I was just like, I want a four K
set of all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
I mean, believe me, I wouldn't mind having them either.
I love the movies genuinely, a really fun franchise. I
don't think they're great movies, but it is something that, yeah,
you just can't put certain things on four K and
make it make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
I still, I still wouldn't say, you know, never say never.
Like I I feel like there's still a possibility that
down the road at some point there could be.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
But I think they would have to put out like
fifteen hundred other titles before they even literally like fifteen
hundred other two.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
You don't think that they well I know it's Warner Brothers,
but you don't think that they would ever like, you know,
like a boutique label taken over or something.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
I mean, if they if they started being more open
to that, sure, but like Final Destination still is something
that is active. And yes, with how much money they
just made, there's likely going to be another sequel in
the next three years at this point because they're they're
still printing checks for the next six months. I would
have loved somebody like this would have made a really

(01:41:40):
great screen factory. Probably Blu Ray box set, maybe like
four K of the first three, then a Blu Ray
of the second, the four and five. But this is
something that's.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
I mean, I would even take like just new transfers
even if it wasn't a Blu Ray, Like, yeah, but
this is probably just the old you know versions from
you know when when they first came to Blu Ray
in like two thousand and ten or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Yeah, I would agree there, Yeah, it would be all
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
So I said we were going to talk about Found Footage.
I got really cool opportunity to be on the show
called CinemaScope, which is over on True Story FM and
Next Reel it's a part of another podcast network, And
we talked about the history of Found footage, went all
deep into like obviously Campbell Holocaust. You gotta spend a
lot of time on that. How found footage evolved over

(01:42:30):
the last however many years, the impact of some of
these in like pop culture overall and how it affected
filmmaking and the primal fears that found footage is able
to grab onto check it out, go look up CinemaScope.
Andy does some really great work and it's a super
fun episode.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Oh thank you, Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Yeah, just yeah, I love your light.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Well I actually listen to that today at work.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Amazing, what do you think.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
Yeah, I subscribed to it instantly after I listened to
it because they did it was a great episode. Yeah, yeah,
and it was a fascinating conversation about found footage. So yeah,
I would. I would, yeah, definitely chime in and recommend
that for anybody who's interested.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Yeah, it's really good and over on like his membership
thing there, there's even a bonus episode that comes with it.
But if you remember my Patreon, you're getting that bonus
episode as part of that tomorrow you'll be getting that emails,
so check out that when it comes through. It is
it is a really really fun show. Specifically, actually recommend
the episode on blaxploitation. Really great discussion on that. Now

(01:43:49):
we don't have a release date for it, but soon
we are getting this four KU book of Clown in
a Cornfield that just came out earlier this year. This
one is coming from Shutter and R. Lj. E. You
get a commentary with the director, you like, Craig the
author of the book that this is based on Adam Caesar,
and then a couple of the actors, justin what'd you
think of Cloud in the Cornfield?

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
I was a big fan of it nice and yeah,
I had read the novel prior to it, and I
thought it was a really it was. It was a
fairly faithful adaptation of it, and I was really pleased
with what they did with it. And and yeah, the
things that were maybe a little bit more obvious as

(01:44:30):
far as sort of like the politics within the novel,
they sort of did it in a way where it
wasn't so broad for film. So I thought it it
worked really well. I thought it was a smart, smart
adaptation of it. And yeah, I love that they're doing
a four K of this, And yeah, I don't collect

(01:44:54):
a lot of steel books, but this one is good
enough that I think I might have to have it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
I hope that they also do a standard. I know
a lot of people hate steel books, and people should
have the option definitely. Yeah, all right, not many left. Next.
Arrow today delayed The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
four K. They say, due to some extended production delays,
we've made the decision to delay our upcoming UK release.

(01:45:20):
It will now be released on August eleventh, and they
just want it to be done right, which I'd much
rather Arrow delay it rather than put out a replacement
program and not send anybody discs. So yeah, check out that,
I will say. I believe Jesse from Diabolic has been
pointing out that the first two are the very first

(01:45:43):
in the trilogy, is officially like fully out of print already,
and the second one is about to be. So if
you were wanting to go after these and you find them,
check it out. That is something that you might want
to get sooner or later. Craig say is happy to wait.
But haven't they delayed each one now? No, only only
two out of three were delayed.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
And I will say, if anybody is in the same
boat as me, I asked Jesse about this because I
had pre ordered all three of them together because I
just figured I'm not going to watch one without the
other two and I can get shipping with it. So
I just wanted to make sure that you know, because
they said that they were out of print with the
first one or two of them, that you know if

(01:46:23):
you ordered them all together, that we're still going to
get them, and he, of course you can confirm that
that we will.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
So yep, they're sitting there taking up space in his
warehouse as we speak. Indicator had a couple announcements today
September twenty second. Over in the UK. They're putting out
a four K and a Blu Ray limited edition of
Death Carries a Cane from nineteen seventy three, rather stylish
Giallo that a lot of people love. I don't think

(01:46:50):
I've seen this one, but this got a brand new
four K HDR restoration by Indicator themselves. You got two
different versions of the film, the Italian language and the
English language version. You had audio commentary that was released
last year with Eugenie Rikalani, Troy Howarth and Nathaniel Thompson.
There is a bunch of archival extras on here and

(01:47:10):
then Eugenie Orcalani talks about Rizzio Prado from twenty twenty
five brand new interview with him, right, says damn me, No,
I have to buy a few dollars more tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
Yes, oh yeah, I was just about to say the
same thing. This is in the Forgotten Gale Volume six set,
and I recently, like earlier in the year, I went
because I hadn't hadn't I had collected them, but hadn't
watched any of them. So I went through and watched
all of the box sets, and this one, this one

(01:47:45):
is actually one of the better ones. I thought. The
Killer uses a cane, you know, obviously from the title,
but it's sort of funny because it's who done it
and there's so many people limping through the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
That's pretty great. Yeah, it'd be really funny if the
Killer didn't carry a king that was the title. Yeah,
I don't know. This is one of those like it
just got to release recently. Were people like desperate to
get this on four K in a standalone limited release? Maybe?

(01:48:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
I yeah, I really, I mean I really like the
Powerhouse four k's or the Indicator. Yeah, the four k's
that they're doing. Agreed, It's like, yeah, I just I
just can't do this. I've got another.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Set to be paired with it. They've got the nineteen
seventy four film The Perfume of the Lady in Black,
also coming out of September twenty second, also in four
K and also on Blu ray. This is the Mimsy
Farmer starring nineteen seventy four film, brand new four K
HDR restoration. They've got two versions, of course, They've got

(01:49:03):
the Italian language and the English language version. Brand new
commentary with Eugenio and Troy, a new interview with the director,
some archival extras on here, and then lovely John talking
about the score of this one. There's a brand new
locations featurette that I believe Eugenio did that's probably really great.
And Yeah, this is one that is a little more

(01:49:24):
interesting to me. I think I saw this one a
handfully years ago, but don't remember a lot about it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Yeah, this one, this one I am picking up.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Lovely color too, not color cover, that's the word. I
really like the way they made that look for sure.
Then some Keino stuff. This is what got a lot
of people excited near the end of the day. This
first one is Huckleberry Finn from nineteen thirty one coming
on Blu Ray on August nineteenth. I got a new
audio commentary with Julie Krugo and Peter Hancoff. Know nothing

(01:49:57):
about this, probably not my style of a style of film, really,
but man, some of these other ones go pretty hard.
Next one that I just skipped. Of course, we're gonna
talk about this one in a second. Don't get too excited.
August nineteenth, four K release of what many people hail
as a masterpiece and many others hale as the worst

(01:50:20):
movie ever made, nineteen eighties zandad starring Olivia Newton, John
and Gene Kelly. Keino. In setting this release up, commissioned
four brand new audio commentaries, the first one with the
director Robert Greenwald, moderated by Douglas Hoggsdale, the second one

(01:50:40):
by Jennifer Clymer and Nathaniel Thompson, the third one by
David del Val and Christoph Charles, and the fourth and
final one with Sam Degan. On top of that, if
you go look at the Blu Ray disc, they've also
got some archival stuff, including seventeen radio spots about ZANDADU
seventeen radio spots there's a two thousand and nine documentary

(01:51:03):
that's almost half an hour long with the cast and crew.
There's a making up from nineteen eighty that's brand newly
remastered in a two K. There's so much in this release.
Tell me about Xanadu, Dustin, is this one that you've
seen in are a fan.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Of I am? I mean it's very very cheesy, yes,
but very very fun and I'm totally gonna get this.
I mean those four commentaries alone, we didn't share that.
I am gonna get this. Yeah, I'm curious what the
four K transfer will look like because it's a very

(01:51:40):
It's one of those movies from the seventies that has
a very sort of like hazy gauzy look to it
any way, sort of like Carrie. But Carrie look beautiful
in four K, so hopefully this will too.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Man, this is crazy. They were getting zandad not only
in four K, but four new commentaries. That's a big deal.
Pretty cool I have I admittedly have not seen Xana
do since I was too young to appreciate it, guaranteed,

(01:52:14):
but very curious to see this again. I don't know
about blind buying a four K, but we'll see Corien,
have a good night. I hope you're well. All those
Elo songs probably needed a promo, but says Terry Golden, says,
grew up in a house of women that love Xanda
do so excited for this. Yeah, this has made a

(01:52:35):
lot of people happy. I agree, Ronnie.

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
I mean yeah, I mean the soundtrack is the reason
to get it, Like, it's so many good songs.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
Yeah, this is this is a big deal, big big deal.
Then the next one that made a lot of people excited, Repossessed,
is coming on August nineteenth. This is the Linda Blair
ned baby Leslie Nilsen film. This gets a trailer as
special feature and a new audio commentary by the director

(01:53:03):
Bob Logan. But this is the second film in a
row that many people call the worst movie ever made. Repossessed.
Have you seen this one?

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
Oh yes, yeah, this is definitely a movie from my childhood.
It's yeah, I'm curious to watch it now because it's
been so long since I've seen it, But I watched
it enough back then that like I still like regularly
quote it. Yeah. But what's funny is Keno takes so

(01:53:34):
long to release their their stuff that I swear this
was originally announced on my last appearance on this show
back in September.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
That's a yeah. It was a long time ago that
we first talked about repossessed and not to mention this
has been Oh gosh. I think this had a German
Blu Ray release on media book that has more bonus features,
and then I think that somebody else had teased that
they had got this, and then that was canceled and
Keno ended up getting it. This has been a long

(01:54:07):
time coming and so many people wanting this. The only
thing I will say that really makes me kind of
turned off by this, not yes, it sucks that there's
only an audio commentary, but this is this is a
really old dated HD transfer. This is not getting like
a new two K Master, new four K anything. This
thing is an old HD Master and I fear this

(01:54:31):
is not going to look great on Blu Ray no
matter what, and a lot of people are gonna be disappointed.
That being said, it's on Blu Ray, A lot of
people will be happy pretty much no matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
And Patrick is right, I do sing your theme song
based on this.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Based on this interesting uh, very funny. I also love
this comment. Ryan says, no way I'm buying Xanadu outside
of a st Next is The Farmer's Daughter with Martha Ray.
Not many Martha Ray titles has been released on Blue Ray,
so this is good to see. This is from nineteen

(01:55:09):
forty coming on August twelfth on Blu Ray. We get
an audio commentary by far and Smith name Yeah, I
don't know much about the movie, but pretty damn cool
off Keino and then via Vision. Closing up our week
with a couple of announcements. First up, we've got a

(01:55:30):
four K release of Point Break from nineteen ninety one
coming to Australia on August twenty seventh. Yes, this has
been released on four K in the US by Shout Factory.
It also got released i think in Germany or the
UK by another company, two very different scans. But the
big thing is this has a load of new special
features and if you love a point Break, and who doesn't,

(01:55:52):
because it's a masterpiece. This has a new audio commentary
by Patrick Bromley, who's great at what he does. This
also has a new interview with John c McGinley, new
interview with Lori Petty, new interview with the Surfer Gang,
and then a whole bunch of archival featurettes. This is
a much more loaded release than the Shout Factory release.
On top of that, if you are an audiophile, this

(01:56:15):
is the first time I think since the original release
that this is including the original four point oh surround sound,
which is not a common way to release films. Four
point zero stuff usually doesn't get poured it over to
physical media, and so this is a pretty big selling
point for a lot point Break is genuinely a masterpiece.

(01:56:36):
How do you feel about this?

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
Well, it's so fun. I mean, it's a quintessential nineties movie.
It's just and I mean, yeah, you've got Katherine Bigelow,
You've got Keanu Reeves, Patrick Swayze, you've got bank Robberies.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
And prime Gary Busey, and.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Yeah, I mean, what's not to like about?

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
Yeah? I agree, I agree. And then finally four K
release on the same day, August twenty seventh of rain
Man from nineteen eighty eight. I failed to mention the
last one that will be in a four K lenticular
hard box release like they do over at Via Vision.
Same with this one. This one has three audio commentaries
on the disc. None of them are new. I believe

(01:57:15):
they were all on the other releases, like the four
K release that came out in the States. You got
some archival featurettes on the Blu ray, but I got
a booklet with this and everything. Good movie, not the
best movie, a lot of representation.

Speaker 3 (01:57:31):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a little bit outdated, but
in some of its portrayals of autism.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
On that note, that is the last of the week,
so let's discuss what's coming out next week in case
you forgot first, we got the Looney Tunes Collector's Vault
Volume one from Warner Archive, Sabrina four K from Keno Lber,
the two Jurassic Park Trilogy four K steel books coming out,
Deep Star six to four K from Keno, Midnight from Criterion,

(01:58:02):
the All of Me Vestron release that is stuck at
the lions Gate Limited site. I believe that is already
shipping to some people. The new fiftieth anniversary Jaws steel
book with that documentary attached, just coming out. Murder she
wrote the complete series on Blu Ray. Finally, all sixty
two discs of it is coming out next week. Way

(01:58:23):
of the Gun four K, also a lions Gate Limited title.
Different Man from a twenty four Imadman a Law in
Order from Keno, Lber Thelonious Monks, Straight No Chaser from Criterion,
Sands of the Kalaharia, one of the best cover arts ever.
It's coming from Keno, the rad release from Mill Creek
that will also have that brand new documentary attached to it,

(01:58:44):
The Assessment from last year, which I've not seen but
I've heard pretty good things about. One of my most
anticipated from next week, The Annihilation of Fish. Will definitely
be getting that from Milestone, eventually a couple from Eureka
Hong Kong nineteen forty one, and then Exact Revenge with
the Unich and the Deadly Knives, Promise for Anything in Rock,
Pretty Baby from Keno, Jerry Cooper for film collection from

(01:59:06):
Orner Archive, and that is it for next week. How
many of these you already got are got on the
way there? Does him?

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
Well? Yeah, I'm yeah. I'm definitely getting Sabrina the four K.
That's gonna look beautiful. And even though I just got
done saying you know, I don't collect steel books, like
both of those Jurassic Park steel books looks so good
to me that yeah, against my better judgment because I

(01:59:35):
already have them on I really don't need it, but
I just don't know how to pass them up. And yeah,
all of me is has already shipped for me. So
that's one I've always wanted to see and I've never
seen it, so I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Yeah, there's not been many chances to see it, so
it's nice to see it getting some love.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
And yeah, Different Man is excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
So I loved that movie. Yeah, Gary is asking Murder,
she wrote, has sixty two discs, Yes, sixty two Blu
Ray discs. In Murder, she wrote, and uh, genuinely can't
wait to have it. I will watch every single moment.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
I rarely so I rarely buy, you know, standard def
DVDs of anything these days. And last year I thought
the Murder she wrote, complete series on DVD, because I
was like, that's never gonna get a Blu Ray roll.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Yeah, to be fair, most people have said Murder, she wrote,
will never ever get a Blu Ray release. And here
we are, sixty two discs later.

Speaker 3 (02:00:39):
And I'm kicking myself because I'll know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
And honestly, like I, I get upset with pricing a
lot on a lot of things. Murder, she wrote, retail
I think was one fifty and some places like Orbit
had it for like one thirty for sixty two discs.
That's not that bad.

Speaker 3 (02:00:55):
Oh yeah, that's I mean, yeah, that's good. That's a
good price.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
Uh yeah, So that's it for next week. Stoked on that. Yeah,
Jaden's pointing out we're getting a Larry Coen set announced
by Shout Factory tomorrow. Very curious to see what's gonna
be on that. We got Imprint stuff getting announced tonight,
Criterion stuff coming up in just a couple of days.
It's going to be a busy week. It usually is,

(02:01:19):
but it seems pretty damn exciting for sure. I a
lot happening. That is the biggest thing I'll say is
there is so much happening in physical media. It's hard
to keep up with. Glad everybody's here to hang out
and discuss it every week, though, Dustin, let's discuss some sequels.
How do you feel about sequels overall?

Speaker 3 (02:01:41):
Well? Yeah, so yeah. When I was trying to come
up with a topic for us this week, yeah, specifically,
I was thinking underappreciated sequels, and what I found as
I was going through it was, I feel like I'm
I feel like I'm a champion though, of sequels, because

(02:02:02):
I feel like there's a lot that people don't appreciate
about them, and those are often the ones that I
like the most. Yeah, because as I was going through it,
I was like, well, I like that, I like that,
and yeah, I feel like they're more Yeah, I feel
like they tend to be more divisive, because you know,

(02:02:23):
most of the time, if a movie is getting a sequel,
it's because the first one was obviously successful and people
liked it generally, and then when you get into the sequel,
I think, Yeah, like I said, they tend to split
opinions more. And then yeah, there's certain ones that, yeah,

(02:02:43):
people either hate or as time passes, I feel like
the tide sort of turns on the opinion of them.
And then I think there's some tonight that we'll be
talking about that I feel like are maybe thought of
a little bit more poper positively to day than they
used to be. But then there's others that I feel

(02:03:04):
like will be thought of more positively, you know, a
few decades from now.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm very mixed on these. I
think that sequels obviously work with cult titles specifically really well.
A lot of drama stuff generally is kind of odd
to get a sequel, but sometimes when they do, they
can be masterpieces, and that's a different thing. Like I
don't know about you, I hope I'm not spoiling something
that you're going to talk about, because the whole thing

(02:03:33):
is very much highly lauded. But like the Before Trilogy,
it's one that a lot of people probably would not
have expected to get what it got, specifically the overtime
sort of release style, but all all of the films
are masterpieces in their own right and done very well.
But you don't see that a lot like Horror Franchise. Sure,

(02:03:55):
that's something that we can expect to see, but I
love seeing stuff like the Before Trilogy that just out
of nowhere and surprises you. Yeah, I'm really excited to
talk about this tonight and specifically underappreciated things. This is
one of those things where, first off, there will likely
be some controversy at some point because both of us,

(02:04:16):
I guarantee you have a title that most people think
is bad, just specifically bad that we both really love.
But in all reality, so much of this is just
I really like championing things that don't get enough attention,
and I again like, I don't mind you heard me
earlier tonight. I don't mind saying something is bad, but

(02:04:37):
it's so much more fun to talk about something that
you're passionate about. And all of my five specifically that
we're going to discuss, I feel like I talk about
for hours because I love them so goddamn much. So
I'm very excited for this, very curious to see what
you're picking, because Dustin is huge into horror. For everybody
that doesn't know, we obviously talked about how we wrote

(02:04:57):
the book The Fright File, but the fact that we're
just doing all genres, you could have picked anything under
the sun, and I'm so curious, So let's just let's
do it. What is the first one that you're gonna
bring up tonight?

Speaker 3 (02:05:09):
Yeah, I will say, yeah, I'll say that. So I've
got five that we're mainly gonna talk about, and then
you know, some honorable mentions. But out of the five,
three are definitely horror, and then the one is like
adjacent but I really wouldn't consider it horror, and then
the other one's definitely not.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
That is kind of exactly my share too. I've got
three that are basically horror, one that is sort of
at least very cult, and then one that is clearly
not horror.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
And I also feel like, yeah, when you say something's underappreciated,
I feel like that's subjective as well. So and so
I feel, yeah, yeah, I think things will be controversial,
especially like if people really hate something that I like.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
But oh yeah, yeah, I know that people hate at
least two and maybe three of mine. So very stoked
to get into this.

Speaker 3 (02:06:02):
All right, So you want me to go first? So
the first that I have is the horror adjacent one.
Oh and I'm doing them in order of release because
I couldn't like really rank them in any way. So
this one is from nineteen eighty one, and yeah, I
absolutely love this movie. I think it's actually better than

(02:06:27):
the original, and I love the original, but I don't
think there's that many people who think this is superior.
But I'll stand by it all day. And it is
shock Treatment.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
For some reason, I knew that you were going to
talk about this one tonight. I'm glad this is cool.

Speaker 3 (02:06:44):
So yeah, if you don't know, this is a a
A I would say it's a loose sequel to Rocky
Hart Picture Show It follows the characters that were originally
played by Susan Sarandon and Barry Bostwick, and when it
came time to make the sequel to it, Tim Curry

(02:07:06):
didn't have any interest in coming back for his character.
And uh, yeah, Barry Bostwick and Susan Sarandon, really, I
think they were too popular by that point. They were
asking for too much money, so they recast them with
Cliff de Young and Jessica Harper from Suspiria. Yeah, and

(02:07:26):
I think I think this is one of is probably
my favorite performance from her. Oh yeah. But I just
think the the music in this movie. Like, so, I
rewatched it about a week ago and I haven't stopped
singing the songs since I saw it. Now. Granted I

(02:07:47):
knew the songs before because I've seen this movie a lot,
but like, I can't get them out of my head,
and I don't really want to. They're just so good.
And I feel like because they haven't been they're not
as well known as the Rocky Heart Picture Show songs,
but I think that that adds a freshness to it.
But they were done by the music and lyrics were

(02:08:08):
done by Richard O'Brien who did the music for Rocky Horror.
And I just find the whole film just so fascinating.
It's so ahead of its time in a way. It's
all so the entire film is set in this Middle
America small town called Denton, USA, but the whole thing

(02:08:30):
takes place in a TV studio, which is like a
microcosm for the town. And it's just so fascinating. And yeah,
the Brad and Janet characters show up there in the
audience and then they get swept into well, just a
lot of craziness, but it's thoroughly unpredictable. It's original, Like

(02:08:53):
you never people watching the Rocky Heart Picture show like
if they thought of what a sequel would be, it
would not be this at all. But a lot of
the a lot of the other actors from the film
from the original film do come back playing different characters,

(02:09:14):
and I think one actually it does play the same character.
But yeah, I just I just unequivocally love this movie.
I think it's beautifully shot. There it opens with this
extended one take one shot of like the studio where
it's introducing all of the characters, and it's it's just

(02:09:37):
so inventive and just yeah, it's it's and then from
there it just it just goes. So I just yeah,
I really love this one.

Speaker 2 (02:09:48):
I am. I'm very sad that there's no US release
of this for people to be able to see it.
The Arrow release has been very out of print for
quite some time now. Yeah, this is this is a
really great choice.

Speaker 3 (02:10:03):
And I will say this was like getting this down
from my shelf again. It just like broke my heart
all over again because this was awful. Like the packaging
of this is terrible. It's so flimsy and like I've
got and this actually it was like this when it came.
But there's like a crease down the side.

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
Oh jeez, it's.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
Just yeah, it needs a better release, even though I'm
happy that we have this at least, and I didn't
realize that it was out of print, but yeah, I mean,
you would have thought that they would have at least
done a reissue with better packaging.

Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
Yeah, funny enough, my first one has a little something
in common. It's a bit of a musical kind of
This is one that is probably gonna make a lot
of people laugh. And actually sore of got a reference
early in the show which a few of the things
that we're going to be discussing tonight. Sorta did that.
I'm stoked to talk on this one is a film

(02:11:09):
that came out all the way back in nineteen and
ninety one. This is a sequel that was put out
associated with Spielberg as part of Amblemation. This is, of
course an American Tale. Fivele Goes West. Now, I know
that seems silly, but good lord, is this movie amazing.

(02:11:33):
We talked about Don Bluth earlier. Don Bluth was a
master animator that did something incredibly special for years and years,
and he's not even associated with the second film at all.
And yet as much as an American Tale is great,
which it basically tells the story of what we find

(02:11:56):
out is essentially like a Jewish immigrant family coming to
the US, told with mice for some reason, and it's
a beautiful, poignant, harrowing tale that is animated beautifully. It's
a just master work from Don Bluth. This second movie
just takes it and dials up the charm and still

(02:12:16):
gives some of that like craziness, the the poignancy is
still there, the the ability to like dive into these characters.
You still get the entire Mousekowitz Family Fible is incredible.
I truly love everything about this movie. The music is great,
the animation is like genuinely very cute in every single

(02:12:40):
thing that they do. I mean, the characters in this movie,
the the the cats that you see, the hound dog,
the everything is just I don't know, it's something that
is so specifically this very don blue style and it's
it's just beautif. I know a lot of people really

(02:13:03):
liked the first one, but for some reason it wasn't
as popular because it wasn't done Bluth. But Five Goes
West or an American Tale, fivel Goes West. This movie
is great and everybody should watch it. Just devastating storylines
in both movies. Love this movie. Uh yeah, Five Goes
West nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 3 (02:13:24):
I gotta watch this, Okay, So I have never seen it,
and I love the original American Tale. Like the original
that was one of my favorite films growing up as
a kid. Like I just loved it so much. And
when the sequel came out, I feel like I rented
it and I started watching it, and because I was
so used to the first one, I was like, this

(02:13:44):
isn't that I think I threw me off because it's
more of like a western right, very much so, and
so I think it threw me off, and then like
I just turned it off. Of course I was like
I was like ten, I was probably I was a
dumb kid. So I feel like I would really appreciate
it now. But the thing that I'm whenever I think

(02:14:05):
about this movie, the thing that always comes to me
is in middle school. I think I was in seventh
grade in choir and we sang as in our program
Dreams to Dream, and so I remember that song but
not the movie.

Speaker 2 (02:14:26):
Please please seek it out. I think you will like it,
especially knowing what you said about Don Bluth earlier.

Speaker 3 (02:14:31):
It is I had no idea that it had like
a like a serious story, like I don't know. I
just always thought the first one is about immigrants and
this and that. Right the second one, I just thought
it was, like I don't know, I had just assumed
it was like just a sillier sequel.

Speaker 2 (02:14:45):
It is sillier than the first one, but I like
it's slightly more disney Fied in a way, which kind
I can see that being a bad thing, but mixing
that with Don Bluth characters and that heart is kind
of like the perfect balance of exactly what it needed, right,
Gallan was not expecting some hardcore fival talks.

Speaker 3 (02:15:10):
And I love Is it a musical like the original?

Speaker 2 (02:15:14):
Uh yes, probably somewhere around the same number of songs.
It's got it like, it's got at least three, like
really memorable musical points.

Speaker 3 (02:15:23):
Okay, cool, yeah, yeah, I'll definitely check it out now.

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
Nice, can't wait to see what you do? What you say?

Speaker 3 (02:15:29):
All right? The second one is for me. It's the
non horror one, although people who don't like it might
think of it as being horrific, but please bear with me.
I love this movie so much, and once again, I
think it's better than the original, and there is there

(02:15:50):
is a very passionate cult for this movie, so I
can't be alone. So nineteen eighty two, it's another musical
and it is grease.

Speaker 2 (02:16:01):
I was about to say it, Oh man, Greece too.

Speaker 3 (02:16:08):
Well, have you seen have you seen Greece too?

Speaker 2 (02:16:12):
I grew up in a Greece worshiping home. My sister
was addicted to Greece for like two years. I think
during that time I watched it once or twice. I
remember dismissing it. I don't remember a whole lot about
the movie. I was a pos I agree I should
watch it again.

Speaker 3 (02:16:28):
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I've always again. I think because the
music from the original is so saturated in the public
consciousness and the songs from the second one aren't. But
I think they're just as memorable. Now you have to

(02:16:49):
watch the movie and you know you're not gonna you're
not gonna know too many of them, just like from
living your life, right, Like when you watch it, like
they'll be stuck in your head. They're great earworms. I
feel like, so we've got and also so it's set
two years after the original, and it's the basic gist
of it is that Sandy, her cousin, comes from Australia

(02:17:15):
and goes to the school that she had graduated from.
And I feel and he's played by Maxwell Callfield, who
I just feel like he has so much charisma. I'm
kind of surprised that he didn't go on to do
a whole lot of stuff, Like, I mean, he he's
had an okay career. But I thought that, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:17:35):
Nice beautiful movie with Maxwell Caulfield.

Speaker 3 (02:17:39):
But yeah, I feel like he should have blown up.
I just thought that, Yeah, he's so good. And then
Michelle Pfeiffer is in I think this is her first role,
if not her first, or it was her second role.
I think Hollywood Knights might have been her first role.
But she's fantastic, and that she has a song, cool

(02:18:01):
writer that's so good. There's another song that's set in
a science class called reproduction and it's about exactly what
you think it is, and it's just ridiculous and so
fun and the romance I feel at the core of it.
I think it works better than the original Grease because

(02:18:27):
in the original Sandy at the end of the movie
she changes everything about herself to get John Travolta's character,
and she and Michelle Fifer's character Stephanie is not going
to change anything for anyone. So I think that it
actually has a more positive message than Greece does, which

(02:18:49):
is the one thing that's always like, really not sat
well with me with Grease is just the overall you've
got to change yourself to get the guy.

Speaker 2 (02:18:56):
Yeah, fun pick, but no I love it Grease too.

Speaker 3 (02:19:03):
Check it out.

Speaker 2 (02:19:05):
I know a lot of people are gonna say it's
not better than Greece, but Greece doesn't hold up super
great in a lot of different ways.

Speaker 3 (02:19:13):
There's a lot of problems with it.

Speaker 2 (02:19:17):
Yeah, still good. Still you know, a very specific, canonical
great film for a lot of people. Not taking that away,
but no.

Speaker 3 (02:19:27):
And I will say the director of it was Patricia Birch,
and she was a really I think she was like
a big like Tony nominated choreographer and you can really tell,
like she does such a fantastic job with all of
the dance sequences and the musical numbers and everything, and

(02:19:48):
they're shot really well and edited well. So yeah, I
think I think she really helped it out. I hate
them both equally.

Speaker 2 (02:19:59):
Thanks. This next one, if you've watched the show for
some time, this is not going to be a surprise,
but I had to sort of theme this with my
first pick, and so my second pick is going to
be another one of my favorite westerns of all time. Yes,
five Ol Goes West is absolutely incredible Western. This is

(02:20:19):
not my pick, but Back to the Future three maybe
one of my favorite. I mean, that's weird to say
one of my favorite when there's three of them. Incredible Western.
My pick it's so good and zz Top is great
in it. My pick is actually from two thousand and
four as a direct to video horror western, and that
is Tremor's for the legend begins. I adore the Tremors franchise.

(02:20:45):
I think that not only is the first movie like
genuinely a possibly perfect movie, it's it's compelling, wonderfully acted, hilarious,
a really great like intro to horror movie for kids.
Michael Gross was a really to hang your hat on
this franchise, and he absolutely kills it in this movie
playing his elder ancestor Hiram. This movie is so interesting

(02:21:13):
to take a horror franchise and say, fuck it, let's
travel back one hundred years, let's drown a bunch of
miners and blame it on some graboids and see how
fun we can make it. Now. A lot of people
hate this movie because they did not have a lot
of money to make this. You can tell the shooting
is not great. A couple of the set pieces really

(02:21:36):
sort of haphazardly thrown together. But the charm of putting
the City of Perfection or sorry, the City of Rejection
into a Western setting that is going back in time
and filling this like Old West Center around monsters that

(02:21:56):
are crazy that we've already loved for three sequels. There's
so much fun. Was such a great way to reinvigorate
this for me. I know a lot of people hate this.
This might be other than the first movie, my second
favorite Tremor's film ever, which is saying a lot because
I adore this whole franchise. I really hope Ero keeps
doing special editions for all of them. Will get part

(02:22:17):
three here soon.

Speaker 3 (02:22:18):
But I was about to ask, do you think they're
gonna do the third one? It?

Speaker 2 (02:22:22):
None of the other ones will probably be four K
because of how they were shot. The third one maybe
I don't remember if that was shot on video or what.
I don't think it was shot on video, but and
it might have been a shot on film and then
edited on tape. Not sure either way. Tremor's four, if
you have stopped at the first one or the second one,

(02:22:44):
because those are the two that Arrow put out, they
are all worth watching. But specifically Tremor's four is such
a unique idea for a horror movie, and I think
it doesn't land for a lot of people. But also
it looks kind of, I don't know, drabby compared to
the first One's got and so a lot of people
were disappointed in that, but a brilliant way to just

(02:23:06):
be like, no, let's make it cool and weird and unique.
And when you're looking back at all of the Tremors movies,
this one stands out as super super unique. It is
absolutely a weird way to do a prequel to Freaking
Tremors in eighteen ninety, Like, that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:23:23):
Yeah, I haven't seen past the second one, so yeah,
I'm one of those people. I really need to catch
up on those. And isn't there isn't there one? It
might have been the last one that has like John
Heater in it or something.

Speaker 2 (02:23:35):
Isn't two of them? And Jamie Kennedy is in one
or two of them? Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:23:39):
Really?

Speaker 2 (02:23:40):
Maybe John Heater's only in one and Jamie Kennedy's in two.
But once you get to five, six, and seven, the
CGI that they have to use is awful. They go
away from the practical stuff, but they're still like really
really interesting. I think that they I don't know, there's
something about the monsters and Tremors and how they evolve
and like what we know about them that really keeps

(02:24:01):
every single one fresh in a lot of interesting ways.
I truly love every single one of the Tremors movies.

Speaker 3 (02:24:08):
Okay, yeah, I definitely gotta check those out. Yeah. I
love the first one and.

Speaker 2 (02:24:13):
It's perfect, genuinely perfect.

Speaker 3 (02:24:16):
So all right, well that was a great pick. Yeah,
I'll check that one out too, so for my next one.
All right, So now we're getting into the horror stuff.
This one, I feel like, I feel like this is
one that I was talking about where I feel like
when it came out it was really thought of negatively,

(02:24:38):
but I also feel like it had some other darker
baggage that came with it. But then I think, yeah,
I think opinion has started to turn. I think some
people really like it now, but I absolutely love it,
and it is Poltergeist three. I just feel like this one.

(02:25:03):
So basically, I think it actually turned out well that
Craig T. Nelson and Joe Beth Williams didn't want to
come back for the third one, so they basically had
to come up with a new storyline, and they basically
made Carol Anne the lead character, who really I at

(02:25:24):
the time like because I was closer to her in age,
like that's who I was interested in anyway. Yeah, and
then too then basically changed the setting completely to the city.
It just gives it a really fresh feel to it.
And then on top of all of that, like it's

(02:25:46):
set in the John Hancock Center, so it's like this
one hundred story skyscraper in Chicago. I mean, that is
a fantastic location, and it's it's like and as they
portray it in the film, I've never been there personally,
but if it's realistic to how they show it in
the movie, it's like there's like a shopping mall, and

(02:26:08):
then there's office buildings and then there's a you know,
apartments and all on top of each other, and it's
it's basically almost like a little city inside a building,
and and everything is like made of glass and mirrors,
And of course that's that's the main thing with with
Portergeist III, is that they've found their way to her

(02:26:32):
through the mirrors. And are you laughing at that the
mirror thing or something else?

Speaker 2 (02:26:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's a funny conceit, but
like genuinely it's a it's a really interesting sequel because
like the setting alone lends itself to some very creative
shots in filmmaking.

Speaker 3 (02:26:52):
Oh my gosh, Like there's there's effect shot in it
and opticals that I still have no idea how they
pulled them off, like just the mirror effects alone, Like
I have no idea, and it's fascinating to watch just
from a visual perspective. But yeah, when I first so
it came out in nineteen eighty eight, and I probably

(02:27:13):
saw it in eighty eight because I was watching movies
like this back then. So let's say I was seven.
Let's say I was six or seven years old when
I saw it. I mean, I ate this movie up
like iron, you know, at that age, I was always
like pretending because I was a big movie fan even

(02:27:34):
back then, and when I played, like I would pretend
that I was in movies and stuff, and like I
would reenact scenes from Poltergeist three with the mirrors and
stuff and pulling her up on the mirror. Like I
just loved it so much, Like it just spoke to me.
And yeah, it has I mean a great cast like

(02:27:54):
Tom Skarrett and Nancy Allen are both in it, and
Laura Flinpoyle you pre Twin Peaks, and yeah, I think
it's just so inventive, so original. And then on top
of that, I think that it also called out to
me at that age because I think when it came out,

(02:28:18):
Heather Arouric had already who played Caroline, had already passed away,
and so yeah, she died at age twelve, and knowing that,
I think that was the first celebrity death that really
impacted me at that young age. And so watching the
movie knowing that that she had already passed away, like

(02:28:41):
it gave it a different feel, like it just it
fascinated me in a way. And so yeah, I was
drawn to it for that too. And I know that,
like it had to have reshoots done after she had died,
and so the very last out of the movie you
only see like the back of her character and because

(02:29:04):
it was a body double obviously, Yeah, and so yeah,
it was just yeah, so there was like different layers
to it that that drew me to this movie. But
all in all, I just think that, yeah, I just
think it's fantastic. I also want to shout out to
the scene where she's Carol Anne is in the parking

(02:29:25):
garage and she steps in the puddle and hands come
up from the puddle and pull her down, Like I
just I'd oh, well done. That was another scene that
I just absolutely loved great stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:29:37):
Yeah, this is a solid pick. Poultrygeist to me kind
of feels like Psycho actually as a franchise, where so
many people have only ever seen the first one, and
yet the whole thing is like a shockingly really good
franchise if you take each one at its own thing.
It's just hard when you're living up to literally a
classic of horror cinema. And you know, with Psycho specifically,

(02:30:02):
you have Perkins attached to pretty much everything, even directing
one of them, and then with Poulterrygeist, you've got some
of the actors carrying over from the first one, and
then just this crazy change of scenery and weird like
deviation for a lot of people. But it works. These
are still good movies. It's just it's hard to live

(02:30:23):
up to a Toby Hooper classic.

Speaker 3 (02:30:25):
Oh yeah, but I feel and I feel like that
actually makes a good point because I think, Yeah, I
think when people go see sequels, they say that they
want something fresh, but then when a movie dares to
do something different, I feel like they sort of turn
away from it.

Speaker 2 (02:30:44):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (02:30:45):
I've got another movie coming up where a lot of
people did not like it because of the big swings
that it took with the plot. But that's why I
liked it personally, because I admired it for that and
I thought it was more exciting for that.

Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
Yeah. You hear that same argument in music a lot,
Like a lot of people will get attached to a
band and be like, oh, man, I want to hear
them evolve on the next album, and they come out
and they do something really weird. They're like, ooh, not
like that, and people get pissed off and stop following
a band because of that, which I totally get. But yeah,
it with stuff like this, appreciate it. It can be good.

(02:31:21):
And again, if it's not good, that first movie is
still there, you're gonna be okay, I promise.

Speaker 3 (02:31:27):
And I mean it basically did what Evil did Rise
did yes thirty years before?

Speaker 2 (02:31:34):
Absolutely, Yes for sure? Man, Yeah, perfect, perfect analogy there. Okay,
So my next one, I believe, yes, uh definitely by far.
This is my newest film on here. And this is
going to feel like a bit of a cheat because

(02:31:55):
this is still a highly lauded film. I'm not taking
it away from that, but still I think this is underappreciated.
I'm gonna make a case for that. So This is
something that we alluded to again earlier in the show.
Funny enough, we mentioned things that we're gonna sort of
talk about tonight, like four different times. Twenty nineteen film

(02:32:15):
from Mike Flanagan, Doctor Sleep is lauded. Is a great film.
This is a sequel to The Shining and people are like, yeah,
it's great. No, it's not great. Doctor Sleep is a masterpiece.
This movie is not appreciated nearly enough for what they
were able to pull off. I mean, Flannagan does the

(02:32:36):
impossible and re shoots exact scenes from literally one of
the most famous horror movies of all time, nails everything
about it, the accuracy of the setting, the facial expressions
of the actors, you know, trying to trying to mimic
one of the most nitpicky directors of all time, and

(02:32:59):
you pull it off as well as Mike Flanagan did.
That is the impossible. And everything about the sequel that
comes I don't even I probably should have looked up
the exact number, but what like forty something years after
the first movie or not forty I guess it's almost
forty thirty nine years after the first movie. And you

(02:33:20):
get this story now about Danny or Dan I guess
Torrence in this one that is so good and it's
so funny to deviate away from what I'm saying because
ew and McGregor is amazing in this. But this whole
movie is elevated. I hate the word elevated. Horse sorry,
it is increase in appreciation so much by the incredible

(02:33:45):
performance of Rebecca Ferguson and this weird group of people
that is just haunting and everything you do and you
get this like terrifying and so bleak base ball scene
that we get, and everything about this lives in your
soul and it is.

Speaker 3 (02:34:06):
And the fact is I'm sorry, and the fact and
the fact that they cast Jacob Tremblay in that roll
and you're like, well, nothing bad can happen to him, right,
and they get rid of that.

Speaker 2 (02:34:17):
With your heart out in that scene and then everything
just falls into place and like you can see some
of the beats coming that they're aiming for and you're like, damn,
like I really hope you can pull it off. And
then he pulls it off, and then some and it's
like WHOA hold on? He just like one of the
most highly lauded horror films of all time and he

(02:34:39):
just stepped up to the plate and killed it. Doctor
of Sleep is going to go down. I really think
in like five or ten years is something that people
look back on and go, Jesus Christ, how did we
just let that go by and just be nonchalant about it.
I think that this movie is going to go down
as a modern masterpiece of horror, and in thirty years

(02:35:02):
there will be double features of the Shining and Doctor
Sleep done that people will pay huge dollars to go
into because it will be such an experience to see
with the crowd. I adore Doctor Sleep. And again, I
know it's weird to say because everything Mike Michael, everything
Mike Flannagan has done has gotten like great rave reviews.
But no, it's not enough Doctor Sleep. Is it surpassed

(02:35:25):
that it is an absolute masterpiece?

Speaker 3 (02:35:29):
Yeah? I love it too, and but I really need
to rewatch it because I yeah, I saw it in
the theaters obviously, and I loved it. But I have
not seen the director's cut.

Speaker 2 (02:35:42):
So I was about to bring this up before we
went to the next one. The director's cut is longer,
and it's not like a substantial couple of scenes. We're
talking of substantial like twenty one minutes or something like
that longer Mike Flanagan. If you are if you are
a Mike Flannistan, I just I think Mike stand again.
I don't know whatever it is. If you love Mike Flanagan,

(02:36:05):
A lot of what people love it for is his dialogue.
If you watch Midnight Mass and you're like, fuck, I
really hate these monologues, you're probably not gonna love the
director's cut. But the director's cut delivers this like extra
exposition that isn't explaining but just enhances it. It is
a really beautiful sort of like Midsommar did for me,

(02:36:29):
this this addition to the story that just made me
appreciate what I like, truly adored in the theatrical cut,
and they just said, oh you want more, Yeah, here's
here's a half hour more that you can appreciate and
love and make it just that much better.

Speaker 3 (02:36:44):
So you you still really like the theatrical but you
just think that the director's cut is is a superior version.

Speaker 2 (02:36:50):
Oh yeah, I think it's very very good. But the
director's cut is absolutely the way to go.

Speaker 3 (02:36:55):
Okay, cool, Yeah, I gotta I gotta get around to
you know I have it, so I've got to get
around to because didn't they release didn't they release the
theatrical and four K but only the director's cut in
Blu ray or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:37:08):
Yes, so so frustrating. Yeah, that is exactly the problem
that the director's cut is only on Blu ray anywhere
in the world, I believe.

Speaker 3 (02:37:18):
Mm and why no reason was obviously finished like.

Speaker 2 (02:37:25):
Yep, all filmed the same exact way.

Speaker 3 (02:37:27):
Mm hmmm. But yeah, you're you're right, Like, I mean,
it came and it came out, and I mean I
feel like it got good notices from people who saw it,
but it just it came and went yeah yeah, and
I but I do feel like I have already seen
more people finding it appreciating it. So I think you're

(02:37:50):
absolutely right. I feel like, yeah, in another decade or two,
it will be considered widely a masterpiece.

Speaker 2 (02:37:59):
Again, I know it's weird to pick it on a
night like this where I'm talking about Tremor's four and
then follow that up with follow that up with Doctor Sleep.
But truly, like, if you get forty critics in a room,
probably like two or three talked about it in high
regard and a lot of them just didn't bother to
say much about it. This movie should be up there
with like best horror movies in the last twenty five

(02:38:21):
years easily.

Speaker 3 (02:38:23):
M hm. So my fourth is okay. So this one, yeah,
I feel like, yeah, this is another one where I
feel like it came out and no, I think it
was very mixed, let's say, and I thought it was

(02:38:43):
almost as good as I won't say this is as
good as the original, but it's almost like I think that,
and I've only grown to love it even more through
the years. And it is scream three nice.

Speaker 2 (02:39:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:39:00):
I know a lot of people who don't like it
because they say that, you know, it's too broad, it
gets too comedic. But I feel like that's overall. I
mean there's parts, yes, but I feel like that's overlooking
the overall story, which I think is arguably as dramatic

(02:39:22):
as any of the films in the series as far
as Sydney goes and her backstory. And I don't well,
I mean, it has been twenty five years. I don't
know if I want to give away, but let's just
say it adds more to her backstory with her mother
and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:39:42):
But I just.

Speaker 3 (02:39:45):
There's so much inventive. Yeah, so much creativity that went
into the third one. I felt with transferring it to
Hollywood and having it be set on the STAB three set,
and the conceit that the actors in the film are

(02:40:07):
dying in the order that they die in the script,
I think that's so much fun. And then on top
of and on top of that, we've got arguably the
best supporting character in the entire franchise, which is Parker Posey,
absolutely brilliant. Like I thought, I thought she should have

(02:40:29):
gotten an Oscar nomination for that role. Damn, that's I
think that she. I mean, she's actually talked about how
she wants to come back, which I think would be
hard hard pressed to do realistically. But at the same time,
I would welcome it because I would just love to
see what she's doing there. But on top of that,

(02:40:51):
like I also feel like with us, you know, the
Sydney's character, I think that it realistically, I think it's
the only one where it so far. I think the
new one coming up next year is going to explore
her life more for the first time really, because I

(02:41:14):
mean in the second one she was in college, but
you didn't you know, and since then, you haven't really
gotten too much look into her everyday life. But with
the third one, like, I think that it did a
pretty good job of exploring, you know, somebody who's gone through,
you know, something so traumatic and and where they are

(02:41:34):
in their lives. And she sort of like closed herself off,
you know, sort of lives you know, out in the
middle of nowhere. But she works as like like a
crisis hotline person. And and I think it's realistic to

(02:41:55):
to just like the post traumatic uh you know, PTSD
of it all. And and when she comes to Hollywood, uh,
you know, after the after everything starts up again, Like
there's a great set piece where she is on the
set of the film and the she finds herself in

(02:42:17):
her old bedroom, which is a set not her real bedroom,
but it's been made to look exactly like her bedroom.
And uh and also like the set where her mother
was found murdered. And I just there's just so many
layers to it, like just with her being sort of

(02:42:39):
inundated with with all of these memories from her past
that were so horrible. Yeah, I just think that that
that's that's a great set piece on top of it all.
And also it is like, I think it's uh. I
know that some people uh are a little bit divisive
over this, but the dream sequence that she has with

(02:43:02):
her mother coming back and being at the window, I
think I almost remember you saying at one point that
you didn't care for that. I actually think it's one
of the creepiest moments in the whole franchise. So yeah,
I just yeah, I just I love it from beginning
to end. I think the comedy works, but I also

(02:43:23):
think that it's not. It doesn't lose sight of its
story or its characters or the drama that's involved in it.

Speaker 2 (02:43:30):
So great pick. I'm on record for saying, as far
as horror franchises go, Scream I think is the highest
quality throughout for the most part. I've soured on the
newest ones a little bit over the last couple of years,
for sure. Like walking out of the theater, I'm all high, like, ooh,
brand new Scream. This is great. I go home and

(02:43:51):
think about it, I'm like, wait, maybe not.

Speaker 3 (02:43:54):
It's like yeah, the well, yeah, I like all of them.
There's not a single one that I would say is
bad by any means. The fifth one, Yeah, I was
so high on it at first when I went and
revisited it, like I think some of its problems started
to show. And also like just I mean, I know

(02:44:15):
we're talking about Scream three and not Screamed, not the
fifth one, but but just to mention the fifth one,
like the fact that the original movie with Stu's house
is like actually an actual house on location in northern California,
and it's been relegated in the fifth one to a

(02:44:35):
replica that's on a studio lot, and you can tell
that it's on a studio a lot. Like that's just
heartbreaking in a way because it just it just takes
away I don't have the feel of it.

Speaker 2 (02:44:49):
So to bring that back to the third one, I
think it's brilliant to have a house that, like real
screen fans are familiar with Sydney, and so to be
able to see her run through a set of her
house is hilarious and like meta in a couple of

(02:45:09):
different ways. That is just great.

Speaker 3 (02:45:12):
I actually runs through the one door and there's nothing
on the other side, so she hanging off of it.

Speaker 2 (02:45:20):
So I really do enjoy Scream three. I mean, anything
that gives Roger Korman a cameo, I'm gonna love, But
I have to admit this one is my least favorite,
primarily because it is rather obvious that the script fell
apart from what they wanted, and I don't wanna. I
don't want to spoil too much for those that don't
know about the story behind Scream three. If you're interested

(02:45:41):
in you've seen it, go go look it up. But essentially,
what is revealed as the killer at the end of
Screen three was only supposed to be a part of
what that story was telling you. And there are a
handful of things in this movie that because of the
way they actually showed it, literally, it makes no sense.
It would be a possible for what happened to actually

(02:46:02):
happen because the story was meant to have different people
being interested.

Speaker 3 (02:46:08):
On the other hand, it does something really interesting, you know,
in the third act that's set in the mansion. Yep,
it does something interesting where somebody that you think is
dead and then you're like, there's literally nobody else that
it could like, there's like it there. It's like everybody

(02:46:32):
is either already dead or the people that are still
alive running around are not the killers. So you're like,
who is the killer? So I think that's sort of
clever how it does that. It's sort of like switches
around on you.

Speaker 2 (02:46:46):
I agree. Yeah, I actually really like the third act.
I like the fake out. You think Dewey's about to
die and then it's the knife handle. Oh yeah, or really,
that's one of the first times I think that they
did a fake out death like that a type of
movie like this.

Speaker 3 (02:46:59):
Yeah, and also going yeah, going back to Parker Posey,
so like she's she's playing an actress who's playing the
Gail Weathers and so like I love their chemistry together
and the way that she basically decides, like I'm gonna
hang on to you because the killer really wants you,
not me, so if we're together, he's gonna kill you.

Speaker 2 (02:47:24):
Yeah. Screen three is fun, and yeah, this is a
good choice. It's definitely I could see it being underappreciate
because a lot of people hate this movie, like genuinely
that loved the first one. We're like kind of kind
of mid on the second one and then hate the
third one.

Speaker 3 (02:47:38):
And I don't. Yeah, I just don't get that. Like
even if you think, even if you think it's your
least favorite, like you do like at least you still
see the positives.

Speaker 2 (02:47:46):
They're all very good and a lot of a lot
of movies wish it could be as good as Screen three.
Oh man. That leads me, gosh, I have two left.
Uh Okay, I'm gonna talk about this one first, because
we just talked about horror so much. This one is
not horror but cult adjacent ish. And this one's kind
of odd too because it's technically not necessarily a sequel,

(02:48:11):
but it is part of a trilogy. I am very
happy with the other films that we got in this,
so I'm not putting those down. I love those when
they came out. I think that they were great and
at each different era of my life. The first two
films in this trilogy were my favorite films from the trilogy.
But now I think one of the most underappreciated sequels

(02:48:34):
of all time, which I mentioned on the show before,
so again, probably not a surprise, twenty thirteen's The World's
End by Edgar Wright. This movie has aged like fine
wine compared to the other two. And I'm not saying
Sean of the Dead is problematic now or anything like that.
Shawan of the Dead is still great. Hot Fuzz is
a fantastic movie, but the way that they not even

(02:48:57):
they the way that Edgar Wright got you to invest
in funny enough, not even characters, just the friendship of
Nick Frost and Simon Peg for two movies, and then
he takes you to the third film and you're like, oh, cool,
they get to go drinking their friends. It's gonna be
a lot of fun. But they flip the rolls and
Nick Frost is now suddenly the regular dude and Simon

(02:49:20):
Peg is the fuck up and you immediately like, have
something weird in your head, go, this doesn't feel right,
But afterwards it really hits you, especially if you aged
with these films. Watching Watching the World's End at seventeen
is so different than watching it at thirty two, because
by the time that you're thirty two, you have known

(02:49:40):
so many people that are like Gary. You've had friends
that are stuck in their ways from childhood, from teenagehood,
from getting in trouble, from just wanting to drink every
Friday night and Thursday night and Tuesday night and whatever.
But the way that they tell the story is so
just like meaningful in the idea of friendship, the idea

(02:50:01):
of like a familiar area for you to be bonding
with friends and know the people around you and feel
like what we've lost in twenty twenty five, which is
this love of third places where you can go with
somebody else that's not work, that's not home, and just
feel welcome and accepted at a place like a local
pub that you go to all the time. And this

(02:50:21):
movie being told with frickin' robots and aliens and so
much shit happening on screen to show the story about
a forty year old alcoholic at its heart is so
damn good and so poignant. I think it was just
too soon. After the first two Most of the people

(02:50:43):
watching it were like twenty three, and they were Gary still,
and so so many people hated it because they couldn't
relate to it in the way that Edgar Wright was
looking back on it. Most of the people that were
watching this were Gary and couldn't look back yet. They
need to separate from that life and grow up a
little bit like Gary had to through this whole thing,

(02:51:05):
and it truly reframes this entire story. And having certain
people that I grew up with that watched this with
me in the theater that all hated this movie that
are still massive fuck ups that I don't talk to anymore,
believe me. But knowing that this was so prescient about

(02:51:26):
what you're harming through a relationship like that, God, this
is a great movie. Again. I think it's like a
masterclass in storytelling that we're attached to Nick and Simon
rather than the characters that they played in Hot Fuzz
and in Sean of the Dead because they're different. But
that core relationship of the director and the two stars

(02:51:50):
was such an iconic tripod of contributing equally to this
that by the time the third film was there and
it pulled the rug out from on you and flipped it,
you are completely lost in that. And for a moment
you are a little dazed watching the first act of
this film, And then when you get into it, God,
does this movie hit. I love The World's End, and

(02:52:10):
I think it might be the highest quality out of
all three.

Speaker 3 (02:52:12):
Now, yeah, you make me want to revisit this really bad.
I yeah, I've only seen all three of them one
time each if you can, wow, and each each one
was in the theater, and I've never revisited any of them.
I liked Sean of the Dead, and I liked Hot Fuzz,

(02:52:33):
and I really did not like the world. This World's
the World's End. And but but ever since then I
can say that I'm probably wrong because I've had so
many people over the years tell me how good.

Speaker 2 (02:52:47):
It is, oh wow, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:52:49):
And how they don't understand how I don't like it.
So so yeah, I can. I can willingly say that
that I could become Maybe I was having a bad
day when I say, maybe I just wasn't in the
right mood. But you're making me want to revisit it
really bad, So I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (02:53:08):
I hope you watch the whole trilogy. Man, I again,
Hot Fuzz. Hot Fuzz is so damn cool. The way
that they frame all of like this action buddy cop
comedy up against like a horror ish background with this
murder mystery cult story so perfect and then set of
the dead lampooning every zombie movie ever is just brilliant filmmaking.

(02:53:28):
Fred Wright, I love all three of these.

Speaker 3 (02:53:32):
Yeah, that's a good pick. Yeah, I'm gonna yeah, I'll
go back and watch all all of them. It's yeah,
definitely in need of a revisit.

Speaker 2 (02:53:40):
Yeah. Craig says he watched Hot Fuzz, then the World's End,
then shot of the dead. That would make for an
interesting way to view them for sure. All right, So
I think we are on to your final one.

Speaker 3 (02:53:52):
Alrighty, So this one? All right? So this, this was
the one that I was referring to where I feel
like it took big swings and people turned against it
because of that. And that's the exact reason why from
the very beginning I was so drawn into it, because

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I couldn't believe how basically how different it was than
the other ones, and for the final one, and that
is and and also I fully believe a lot of
people aren't gonna like this who are watching this, but
I think you like it so and that is Halloween Ends.

Speaker 2 (02:54:40):
Wow, all right?

Speaker 3 (02:54:42):
So well, as you know, Halloween is my favorite is
my favorite car franchise. So I could basically go through
and defend every Halloween movie except for Resurrection. But Halloween Ends. Yeah,

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definitely not what people were expecting. And I feel like
it almost even though obviously Michael Myers is in this one,
it almost mirrors Halloween three in the way that when
that came out, it was advertised in a way that
people didn't even know that it had nothing to do
with the previous two, and so they were just outraged

(02:55:26):
by it. And David Gordon Green has actually said that
he even gave hints to its connection to Halloween three
by adding in the opening titles, there's it's it's the
font color is in blue, just like Halloween three, which

(02:55:49):
I thought was so cool. It's like a subliminal thing.
But but but basically, like Halloween ends, like the pre
title sequence starts, You're watching like this college kid who
is babysitting, and like the child that he's babysitting is

(02:56:10):
beyond annoying, and it's Halloween night and you're like thinking,
all right, Michael Myers is going to show up. At
some point. He does not only does he not show up,
something even more horrible happens. And then it goes to
the titles and you're like, Okay, this is not what
I was expecting from the last movie in the series,

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and where is it going to go from here? And
I was so excited by that. I don't I've seen enough.
I've seen enough, you know, straightforward Halloween movies. I don't
need it anymore. I totally welcomed what this movie did
by basically changing so I yeah, this one is known

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as So the character the babysitter, his name's Corey, played
by Rohan Campbell. I think he's fantastic in it, but
people hate his character, like people are like vehemently like, yeah,
they despise his character. And I think it's fascinating. I

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think it's such a great character and and his performance
is is great in it, and and where it goes
from there. I thought it was interesting that for the
basically the first time you actually get an idea what
Michael Myers does for the you know, the other days

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of the year that aren't Halloween, which I thought was interesting,
you know, other than Halloween five where he's just like
passed out for a year with a guy with a
parakeet and and all. And then when and then as
far as Lorie is concerned, I found I found that
interesting too, because at the end of the of Halloween kills,

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you know, somebody very I don't want to give it away,
but somebody very close to her is killed. And you're like, well,
she's already been through so much, how is she going
to handle this? And so it said a few years later,
and you can tell that like she's gone to therapy,
she's like worked on herself and she's like, finally, for
the very first time in the series, you can see

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the Lori that was in the original movie. Like, it
feels like her, and it feels like she's back to
who she was. I mean, you know, obviously you change
over time, but but I could tell that it was.
It just felt like like the original Lourie. And I
thought that was so interesting that they did that night.
It couldn't be by accident. I mean, even the way

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she dresses is you know, as much as I like
the twenty eighteen Halloween, like, I thought it was kind
of boring the way that they sort of basically turn
her into, you know, someone who lives beyond, you know,
behind all these bars and stuff, and she's just done

(02:59:07):
toting and this and that, and and I found you know,
the Halloween h two O version of her more interesting
because that was a more interesting take on what she
would be like later on, I thought than even though
I do like the twenty eighteen one, but but basically,

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you know, I could I could defend Halloween Kills because
I think that one's underappreciated too. I think the trilogy
that David Gordon Greed did, I don't really have many
problems with it. I thought that it was very well.

Speaker 4 (02:59:38):
Done, and and then even with the end, like I
just think it's pitch perfect. It it ends the way
that the first one ended with, like the shots of
the different rooms, but it's in the daylight and it's changed,
and I just think that it's sort of poetic in

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its own way.

Speaker 3 (03:00:01):
So come at me, so funny enough.

Speaker 2 (03:00:07):
I don't love Halloween ns. I like it. I don't
think it's nearly as bad as the world made it
out to be on that first month of release, because
oh my god, the world hate it for a month.
But up until about ten minutes before we went live,
I was gonna I knew that you're like a Halloween worshiper,
so I said, I'm gonna make my final pick Halloween

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Kills because I think Halloween Kills is the most underappreciated
of the new trilogy. It's great. And then at the
last minute I changed it, and I'm not going with
Halloween Kills. But I do think people should watch Halloween Kills.
It is truly great. Yes, the whole Evil Dice, and
I think it's bad dialogue. It shouldn't have been said
fifty four times seven, sure, fifty four probably not, although I.

Speaker 3 (03:00:52):
Am annoyed that people focused on that so much, like
there's so much more to the movie than that. Yeah
with you, but but oh my gosh, I love Halloween Kills.

Speaker 2 (03:01:03):
It's so good and it's it's the movie that Michael
feels the most dangerous to me in that movie by far.
I mean, the whole park scene is well, like, my god,
the most visceral violence in any Halloween movie by a
long shot.

Speaker 3 (03:01:19):
Yeah, I think that. I think that's the my out
of that that that uh David Gordon Green trilogy. I
think that that whole park sequence is the best part
of any of the movies, like horror wise, like it's
so yeah, like you said, it's so visceral. It the
tension is so high, Like I loved that they brought

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Lindsey back and actually gave her like a good like
chase scene. And yeah, I would yeah, I would say,
I you know, I decided to do Halloween Ends because
I think that's the one that people dislike the most.
But I think out of the three, I would probably
it would be a toss up, but I think Halloween

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Kills is probably the best of the three.

Speaker 2 (03:02:05):
Again, I understand why people hate it, like coldon here,
I totally get it. But the thing is, I'm not
I don't know, I'm not attached to the Halloween franchise
like a lot of people. To me, it's it feels
like the most disjointed of the main hollow not Halloween,
of the main horror franchises, like.

Speaker 3 (03:02:25):
Timelines and yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:02:28):
So, like I said, I thought it would be cool
to talk about a Halloween movie, but I decided I'm
not going to talk about Halloween kills at the end.
So at the last moment, I decided to make this
true to my heart, something completely different. Get out of
this timeline that everybody hates, and I think we have

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to talk about Halloween. To by Rob.

Speaker 3 (03:02:51):
Zombie, that was one of my honorable mentions.

Speaker 2 (03:02:55):
Rob Zombies, Halloween two is something that should go down
as a modern horror masterpiece. This two thousand and nine
movie is something that we have never gotten still to
this day, out of Halloween films. There's so many things
that are pulled off here, like it is a bigger
story but not told in like a more complex way.

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It's more grounded in the humans than any of the
other Halloween movies. It makes LORI feel like a real person,
like they almost got to in Halloween Ends, and like
they almost got to in the first movie, but they
never quite got over that point. To me, I feel
like Zombies Halloween two takes it to that other level
where you are pouring out empathy at this person in

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a way that's not just I don't know, Like with
Halloween Ends, I think the empathy that I felt at
that point was almost just like you fucked with her
so long, Just give her a break, Michael, come on.
But with Halloween Two, it was just like, oh my god,
this girl is being tortured, Like we have to get
out of the situation. And there's something about Rob Zombie

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that so many people hate with everything that they are,
and I have enjoyed the vast majority of what he's done. Yes,
thirty one is a bad movie. I'm not going to
argue with you there. It's a bad movie. However, it
was a very troubled production too, But so people.

Speaker 3 (03:04:22):
I will say, as much as I disliked thirty one
the first time I saw it, I went back and
rewatched it again a few years later, and I actually
liked it a little bit more. It's still not great, though.

Speaker 2 (03:04:32):
I totally get that Three from Hell not a good sequel.
The biggest thing is the power from the first two,
was said Haig, and when he passed, we should have
just let that go. We didn't need a third film
without being.

Speaker 3 (03:04:46):
Rejects.

Speaker 2 (03:04:47):
Yeah, the Halloween two. Everybody looks at these movies, and
first off, people didn't want a new Halloween. They didn't
want somebody else coming in and tainting their timeline. Dude,
your franchise has been tainted far too many times. Let's
stop bitching about that. But then the people wanted to
complain because they gave us too much backstory. I get

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it a little bit, and I get the people hate
Sherry Moon Zombie, and I get get the people hate
the Rob Zombie classic dialogue. But Hallowing two is where
he is firing on all cylinders most for a franchise
type film like this that's not Devil's Rejects are House
of a Thousand Corpses. Both of those movies are stone

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cold classics to me that I adore both of them
in very different ways. Hallowing to the white horse scenes,
the stripper scenes, the death scenes that are just gnarly,
the brutal, like the way that people are treated in
this movie is so just maniacal at its heart.

Speaker 3 (03:05:51):
This one is by far out of every Halloween movie
that's ever been made. This is definitely the darkest and
most brutal.

Speaker 2 (03:06:00):
It is great. It is a rob Zombie that honed
his craft finally after four films four I think it
was only four at that time, and being able to
make this in a system that was it was already
built against him. I mean, remaking Halloween was never gonna
go easy, and people didn't respond well. It made a
little bit of money, so they gave him a sequel,

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but he went all in on this and they truly
did something special. And I think people are going to
go back in time and watch this in a way
that you just separate it from anything Jamie Lee Curtis
and John Carpenter. And this movie is amazing, great music,
great acting, great effects. Truly an astonishing piece of cinema that, honestly,

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I think it's way better than his first Halloween movie
and something that should be discussed outside of the Halloween
franchise as a whole.

Speaker 3 (03:06:58):
Now, would you say, have you seen the theatrical and
the the unrated which would you say is better. I
have a very strong opinion.

Speaker 2 (03:07:11):
I honestly, the Theatrical to me, is a better movie.
But I I don't know, there's something sadistic about the
unrated gut like it's it's I think it's more fun
to watch. But the Theatrical is the better movie, if
that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (03:07:23):
Yeah, I strongly believe the Theatrical is the better one.

Speaker 2 (03:07:27):
It is.

Speaker 3 (03:07:28):
Yeah, I wish that you could do like sort of
a Frankenstein cut of both of them and put them together,
because there's things about one that I like, but then
there's other things. But the ending of the Theatrical is
so much better. No, I was written it off like
I'm like, the Theatrical is cannon because I refuse to

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believe that what happens at the end of the other
one is what really happened. Yeah, it's so good, And
you know, it's a shame that the second one didn't
It wasn't as successful as the first one, because I
know that they were planning on doing a trilogy, and
I just would have loved to have seen, Yeah, what
what Rob Zombie would have done with that third one

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and bringing Scout back because I thought she she's fantastic and.

Speaker 2 (03:08:19):
She's genuinely amazing, like maybe the best performance in any
anything associated with this franchise.

Speaker 3 (03:08:25):
And and also like out of you know, I could
be overlooking something, but basically out of any slasher movie
I can think of, I feel like this one is
most realistic to portraying the aftermath of somebody who's been

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through something like that and what they might be like
a year or two later. Yeah, and I think, yeah,
I think it's Yeah, it's fascinating it. I will say
so just as an aside when I because this series
means so much to me. So when the first one came,
When the original Rob Zombie one came out, I saw

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it at an advanced screening. I was a critic back then,
and so I was. I went to an advanced screening
of it, and I was so outraged by what I
saw because I was so stuck in my head about
what the original was and it was so different and

(03:09:33):
just you know, the dialogue, like it the Rob Zombie
you know world that he always creates in his movie
is it's just grungey and grimy, and I'm like, that's
not what Halloween is. Yeah, and then like it it

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after the first half, and it basically the second half
the movie is like a Cliff's Note version of the
whole original, but in forty five minutes rather than ninety. Yeah,
and I just I remember leaving the theater and just
like being so angry, Like I don't know if any

(03:10:16):
movie has ever made me madder in my life. And
what's funny is that? And then I went home and
like just wrote this like diatribe review. But what's funny
is so then the director, you know, the unrate the
director's cut came out, which is like twenty minutes longer
or whatever. And you know, I've seen it many times

(03:10:39):
since then, and I've actually grown to appreciate it, and
the longer version helps it immensely. Yep, because it doesn't
feel as rushed. I still have many issues with it.
I swear, like in that third act Lorie is stuck
in the walls for like thirty minutes straight and You're like,
would you get out of the wall.

Speaker 5 (03:11:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:11:00):
It like, but.

Speaker 3 (03:11:05):
It's grown on me. But Halloween too. From the very
first time I saw it, I said, this is fantastic.
This is what I wanted the original to be.

Speaker 2 (03:11:13):
Yeah, And I guess to sum up like all of
that on Halloween two. There's one thing that this movie
gets that I think funny enough, since we just talked
about Halloween Ends, I think that's the only other movie
that comes close to getting this is Halloween two feels
like everybody from the first movie is still feeling what
just happened in that first film. They haven't recovered. And

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yet all of these other characters that are like newly
added to the story that you don't know anything about.
They just simply don't understand what's going on. And it's
still so real to all of the victims that were
around this, And it is again like it's it's the
Halloween film that drew the most real empathy out of me,

(03:11:57):
and I there's something about it. Rob Zombie was able
to make it so real. But truly, Rob Zombie alone
underappreciated as a filmmaker. I think people have shot on
him for so long. He's really, in my opinion, only
made two kind of bad movies, and they're not even terrible.
I think Looking at Everything's Done has of a thousand
corpses really good, Devil's Rejects Masterpiece, Hallowing pretty good. It's

(03:12:20):
it's kind of bad but pretty good, Hallowing two masterpiece,
not gonna talk about the haunted world of l Superbisto.
Words of Salem secretly might be Rob Zombie's like technically
best movie, thirty one bad movie, three from Hell, bad movie.
Still fun to watch both of them, but bad movies.
And then we get to The Monsters, and most people
had an opinion but have never seen it. I adored

(03:12:43):
the Monsters. I think it is so well done. He
should not be out there touring like he is, right now,
go make some more freakin' movies. You're great at it.

Speaker 3 (03:12:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm curious if he's gonna
make anything else.

Speaker 2 (03:12:57):
Or yeah, I don't know if he can get funding.
That's a fucking worse thing here, like.

Speaker 3 (03:13:03):
Because he used to be, yeah, so hot as far
as just to get some of the stuff greenlit. And
I mean, and I mean he's had a lot of successes,
you know, earlier on if they gave him the money
to actually do something else. Yeah, the Monsters. Yeah, Patrick
really liked The Monsters.

Speaker 2 (03:13:21):
It's great.

Speaker 3 (03:13:22):
I appreciated it, and I visually I thought it was
really good, But I think that it was sort of
misguided because it basically ends where I thought it should
have started. I get that some maybe we can get
a sequel. Well that's that probably never happen, but it

(03:13:45):
could be like Adam's Family Values.

Speaker 2 (03:13:48):
Yeah, it probably would be better, just like Adam's Family
Values is better than the original. Well I'm sad.

Speaker 3 (03:13:54):
That you you picked Halloween too, because yeah, that that's
another movie where certain people just despise that movie. And
it confuses me because I just think it's so great.

Speaker 2 (03:14:05):
It made people think. I think that's the biggest thing
is it's it's like an art house Halloween movie and
people were not ready for that.

Speaker 3 (03:14:12):
And also just as an aside, like Daniel Harris is
heartbreaking in it, and Brad Doriff like when he's fined,
Like that's some of the best acting I think I'd
ever English.

Speaker 2 (03:14:26):
Yeah, it is so much, speaking to so much this topic.
I feel like we could have each done a different
list of five and so I'm sure we both have
many more that we want to share.

Speaker 3 (03:14:38):
What else, We'll just go really super fast.

Speaker 2 (03:14:40):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (03:14:42):
So I wanted to bring so I just wanted to
mention all of the all of the key famous horror franchises.
I just wanted to call out some of them that
that I like that that people don't. So starting out
in celebration of it being after midnight, so it's officially
Friday the thirteenth. I am going to defend Part five

(03:15:07):
a New Beginning and Part eight Jason takes Manhattan. People
don't like the fifth one because it's not really Jason.
I think that that's why it's so cool. I think
it's different. It has one of the best chase sequences

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I think at the end up there with Part two.
And also I think sort of like Halloween two. I
think a lot of the later in the eighties, Like
if you watch some of the Friday the Thirteenth movies today,
they are so watered down because the MPAA was basically

(03:15:50):
cutting everything from them. Like if you watch Part seven,
there's virtually no blood in that movie at all, Like
you can just tell that they just cut it to
shreds Part five they weren't, like they weren't cracking down yet.
And yeah, that's like it's like the Halloween two of brutality.
When it comes to the Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (03:16:12):
It's good. It's it's much better than in a violent nature,
which is just Jason walking.

Speaker 3 (03:16:17):
That's actually a good comparison. It actually does. And then
with Jason takes Manhattan, Like the main criticism of that
is that ak, yeah, he doesn't get to Manhattan until
the last half hour. But the kicker for me is ever.
So that's actually the first Friday the Thirteenth movie I
saw in the theater. So I was seven, and my

(03:16:45):
older brother sot me to see it and we got
in and and I love the scenes on the boat.
That's my favorite part. I don't really care about me.
I mean, yeah, it's cool seeing him in Manhattan, but
I don't really care about that because.

Speaker 2 (03:17:01):
It's like and it's not it's not done well.

Speaker 3 (03:17:04):
Yeah yeah, but like I like this. I like Jason
on a cruise ship. I think that's good. If they
had called it part eight Jason, you know, Jason on
a cruise or something, people would.

Speaker 2 (03:17:17):
You would have called it Jason's Voyage to Manage.

Speaker 3 (03:17:21):
And people wouldn't have had the criticism anyway. I like them.
The only one I can't quite defend is Jason goes
to Hell. It's great that one does take big swings,
I'll give it that much, but that one really does

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for the last one and it's called Jason Goes to Hell.
You want to actually watch him in the movie, not
his soul in other people's bodyes.

Speaker 2 (03:17:51):
Yeah, it's true. What else you got?

Speaker 3 (03:17:58):
And then for a Nightmare on Elm Street picked part
two So Goodtartie's Revenge because I feel it's underappreciated. I
feel like people like it for now maybe, but back
in the day like it. I think it was sort
of like The Black Sheep, Like I just find it fascinating. Well,
I love that, you know, people, the director can deny

(03:18:20):
it all he wants, but the entire movie is a
metaphor for exactly. It's about a teenage boy who's struggling
with his sexuality. And if you can't deny it, like
the director has said that he wasn't even thinking of that,
I'm sorry. When you've got a scene where they're all

(03:18:42):
these big balls are like bouncing in the gym towards
the and he's like being whipped in the showers by Freddy,
like it's and then you've got yeah, the protagonists who's like,
you know, damning in his room and just it's it's

(03:19:04):
so coded and so obvious.

Speaker 2 (03:19:06):
But I already coming out of him.

Speaker 3 (03:19:08):
Yes, yes, and Freddy coming literally coming out of him
and he's trying to fight the urges. It's so yeah.
I love that one. Do you have any more?

Speaker 2 (03:19:23):
Yeah, I've got it. Chapter two is way better than
people give it credit for it. It does, It does
not suck. I love it. Chapter two. Day of the
Dead is the best of the original Romero trilogy, and
people look down on it because they think the other
two are amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:19:37):
Do you think it's better than Night of the Living.

Speaker 2 (03:19:39):
Dead by a long shot?

Speaker 3 (03:19:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (03:19:41):
Wow? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:19:43):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (03:19:43):
And Donna the Dead is the worst one by far.

Speaker 3 (03:19:46):
Oh I would agree that.

Speaker 2 (03:19:48):
Funny enough, it almost made my list, but you were
talking about it, so I kind of booted it for
five twenty eight weeks later. Amazing movie, really great sequel
if you've not given it a chance because it's Jeremy
Renner and in a city, it's totally worth it. It's
it's a very different movie, but that's not a bad thing.
It is so well made.

Speaker 3 (03:20:07):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:20:08):
I wanted to bring up Creep two. Creep was like
this masterpiece that should not have been as good as
it was, and then to have the balls to make
a sequel to that, like in the exact same way.
Creep two never should have been good. It is so good,
and the fact that they could keep up the quality
like they did, The Duplas brothers are amazing. Completely away

(03:20:30):
from the horse side. Before I share the last one
I wanted to bring up. It's if it's been a
long time since you've seen it from the nineties, go
watch a very Brady sequel, The Brady Family Going to Hawaii.
It is so funny. There are scenes in that movie
that are like totally weird, but so funny at the

(03:20:51):
heart of it. It is a great, great comedy, so good.

Speaker 3 (03:20:55):
And then talk about how amazing Jennifer Alice Cox is
so good, Like that's somebody who should have had a
bigger career after those movies. She should have been like
the Anna Faris every time because she was amazing as
jan Yeah, fully agree, but yeah, I agree. Yeah, I

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think the sequel is better than the first one.

Speaker 2 (03:21:20):
Last one, I want to talk about one of my
favorite horror franchises. Went and saw the vast majority of
them on opening day with my wife since we were kids.
I mean, the first one came out like twenty one
years ago now or whatever. Saw six is actually a masterpiece,
a really great movie, and the fact that the whole
thing is built to lambast the American healthcare system is

(03:21:45):
such a brilliant way to take a torture porn film
and make it way relevant for modern audiences. And I
think it'll go down as totally one of the best
horror sequels of all time easily.

Speaker 3 (03:21:59):
Yeah, it definitely has one of the more memorable uh
yeah sort of setups and and and storylines as far
as the motive behind everything.

Speaker 2 (03:22:07):
Yeah, any more for you?

Speaker 3 (03:22:12):
Yeah, I just have a few more real quick, I'm
almost all right. This one's gonna be highly controversial. Jaws
the Revenge, Jaws two maybe, but Jaw's the Revenge. No, no, no,
Jaws the Revenge is better than Jaws two. Maybe maybe

(03:22:34):
maybe that will get me kicked off the show.

Speaker 2 (03:22:38):
Just don't say it's better than the first one.

Speaker 3 (03:22:40):
And no, it's not as good as the first one.
But I just feel like Jaws the Revenge, Like if
you saw the first two and thought to yourself, I
want more of Chief Brody's wife, then like this is
the movie for you, And like Lorraine Gary is front
and center for the whole movie, and like I'm here
for I love her and it and it's like, yes,

(03:23:04):
it's ridiculous that that the shark is going to follow
her to the Bahamas, that's ridiculous. But everything else it's
like a it's like a romantic drama. It's like what
we were saying Wolf Creek with sharks like dangerous animals.

(03:23:24):
This is like, it's like a romantic drama of a
woman finding herself and it just so happens to have
like a shark like attacking and killing people on the side,
and like she falls in love with like Christ, who
is it? Who is the jails for hold On? I

(03:23:48):
got it? Michael Keane Michae okay, because he said that
he took the movie because it paid for his house.
At least he's honest.

Speaker 2 (03:24:00):
I love the I love the implication that somebody watched
Jaws the first movie. You went, I want to see
more of cheap Brody's wife, which was me.

Speaker 3 (03:24:08):
That's why I love her in the first I actually
did a I did a Facebook post once where I
was like in defense of Ellen Brody and I was like,
oh interesting, and I was like, I was like, I
want to see more of Ellen Brody. I was like,
Lray Gary should have gotten an Oscar nomination for Supporting
Actress for the original jonas she's so good in the room. Anyway,

(03:24:37):
all right, the next two, I'll go quicker. Yeah, this,
this is a little bit more outside the box.

Speaker 2 (03:24:44):
This is, oh yeah, not what I've seen the bite.

Speaker 3 (03:24:51):
So have you seen either of the curses?

Speaker 2 (03:24:53):
I think I've seen the first curse ages ago, barely
remember it. Definitely never seen the sequel.

Speaker 3 (03:24:58):
So they have nothing to do with each other. It's like,
an of course only sequel. So the first one has
Will Wheaton in it, and it's about like like water
contamination and it starts like turning his family into like
zombies or something. The second one, which has absolutely nothing
to do with it, It starts Jill Scholin, who I love,

(03:25:20):
and she's on a desert road trip with her boyfriend
and he gets bit by a snake. And this it's
been a while since I've seen it, but I think
the snake has been injected with some special sort of
venom or something, and it basically his her boyfriend's hand

(03:25:45):
starts transforming into a snake. And it's crazy, but it's
creepy and for anybody who has a phobia of snakes.
I think it's one of the better snake movies out there. Yeah,
it's it's very it's very well done. And I was actually,
Joe Sholin is really good with social media, and like,

(03:26:09):
I've been talking to her recently and I mentioned to
her the other week of it because she had done
a post about Curse Too, and I was like, how
did you the end of the you know, without giving
it too much away, Like the end of the movie,
She's like in a it's like raining, it's muddy. She's
in this pit and they're snakes everywhere, and I'm like,

(03:26:32):
how did they do that? And She's like, I was
told that they were not going to be real snakes,
and then they dumped real snakes all over me and
I had to just go along with it. Jesus, I
would have been it's impressive for that.

Speaker 2 (03:26:50):
Yikes.

Speaker 3 (03:26:52):
And then this also stars Joe Shoulin. But I want
to just highlight when a Stranger Calls Back, which I
think is better than the first one as well. Hear
me out the first one. The first one it basically
the best. Well, I guess it's arguable, but the best

(03:27:14):
part of the original movie is the first like twenty
minutes with Caryl Keene and the calls are coming from
inside the house, and but when when Stranger calls back,
like it extends that for a little bit longer, and
I think does more with it, and it's even scarier.
And then I think it's interesting. It actually does something

(03:27:36):
similar to what we were talking about with Halloween two,
where it sort of picks up with her character like
a year later and she's really struggling to move on
with just you know, the trauma of everything she went through.
So I think that's interesting. And then I also think,
you know, it came out in nineteen ninety three, and
it's a it's almost sort of it's like an early requel,

(03:28:02):
if you want to call it that, like because they
bring back Carol Kane and Charles Burning, you know, fourteen
years after the original to sort of help her. So
it's sort of like what they did with Scream five
and the upcoming I know what you did last summer.
So I think it's interesting and there's also an awesome

(03:28:23):
Have you seen it?

Speaker 2 (03:28:24):
I've not not. Well, I have, but not in a
long time. Not in the way that I want to
claim it. I just I really want to point out
the show is never in the history of four years
of doing this, never mentioned the words Charles Durning ever,
and we've mentioned him twice tonight, is it.

Speaker 3 (03:28:42):
Well, when you mentioned him earlier in the show, in
the back of my mind, I thought, oh, I'm gonna
mention him. What all right? And then all right, three
more and I'll go super fast. Book of Shadows Blair
Witch two. I'm not going to say this one's as
good as the first one, so don't think that I've

(03:29:04):
lost my mind that much, but I will say that
I'm very I was very impressed that, especially for so
it's directed by Joe Burlinger, who's a famous documentarian and
he did the Paradise Loss documentaries about the West Memphis three. Yeah,
and then for them to then choose him to direct

(03:29:26):
a sequel to a fake documentary and then choose not
to make it a documentary, just a conventional we told
film like that's kind of bizarre. But I like it,
and I like the fact that they go in a
different direction with it, because you would just expect them
to just do another found footage movie. So I think

(03:29:48):
it's good in its own right. I think it's very
much a two thousand movie. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know,
right down to like the Poe song on the soundtrack
and all of that stuff. But but I like it. Okay,
last two. Yeah, this is another one that almost universally

(03:30:12):
was hated, and I have absolutely no idea why, because
I loved it. I'm not going to say it's as
good as the original. It's not as good, but I
did love it. Exorcist the Believer.

Speaker 2 (03:30:26):
I still haven't watched this. I need to.

Speaker 3 (03:30:29):
I have no idea why everybody turned against it the
way that they did, because I thought that it's the
most respectful to the original, and it deals with a
lot of the same themes of you know, a lot

(03:30:49):
of a lot of a lot of the same themes
that are in the original about you know, faith and
the supernatural and just I think it does a really
good job of being basically what the original Exorcist is,
which is more of a human drama that just happens
to have really frightening things in it.

Speaker 2 (03:31:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:31:10):
But I see, is it? I see? I've always seen
the Exorcist is more of a drama than than a
horror film.

Speaker 2 (03:31:17):
Yeah. On that note, because that just reminded me I
probably could have thought of this earlier and put it
on my list, But I actually as an underappreciated sequel,
I truly love The Omen two. I think it's a
similar thing where it's a drama more than a horror.
But I the second one might be as good as
the first movie, which is crazy because that first movie
is a freaking masterpiece. I love it, but the second

(03:31:38):
one is so good, Like I love the whole franchise,
but that second movie is really great.

Speaker 3 (03:31:44):
I like any sequel that decides to go the snow route.

Speaker 2 (03:31:48):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (03:31:49):
That's why I'm so excited for The Black Phone two
because it looks genuinely like I was skeptical of what
they could do with it, but now that I saw
the trailer and I saw what they are doing with it,
and it's set like in the winter time at this
like camp and yeah, and they're sort of going out.
They are sort of going on more supernatural route. It's

(03:32:09):
almost like he's become sort of like a Freddy Krueger. Yeah, yeah,
I'm really I'm really intrigued by it, all right, last
one and this one again, I have no idea why
people didn't like it. I thought it was fantastic and
this is one that decades from now people are going
to reassess and love and wonder why people didn't like

(03:32:32):
it before. And it's joker if all you.

Speaker 2 (03:32:36):
Do something to see this one too.

Speaker 3 (03:32:39):
I'm terrible, I think it. I know, I know that
they were both divisive, but but people tended to like
the first one, and obviously you know it was Oscar
nominated and and Joaquin Phoenix won the Oscar And but
the where they went with this I thought. I thought

(03:33:00):
it was organic to where it needed to go while
also standing on its own and not just being a
repeat of the first one. And I loved Lady Gaga
in it, and.

Speaker 2 (03:33:11):
It was.

Speaker 3 (03:33:13):
I think I think she was nominated for a Razzie
for it, which is patently ridiculous because she's fantastic in
it and the only reason they nominated her was just
because it looked cool to just dump on the movie
that was a flop.

Speaker 2 (03:33:29):
And again, most people had dumped on it never even
saw it.

Speaker 3 (03:33:33):
So and yeah, I know a lot of people didn't
like it because it was sort of a musical. Well,
I mean, musicals are my second favorite genre next to horror,
if you didn't know that. So I'm never gonna complain
about a movie being turned into a musical. But I

(03:33:55):
thought it. I thought it was a fascinating sequel and yeah, yeah,
I'll defend it continue too, and it will be it
will be reassessed in years to come.

Speaker 2 (03:34:08):
I need to see it. I've wanted to see it,
and it's just it can't be a priority unfortunately, amongst
many other things happening. But yeah, all solid picks, very
very solid picks.

Speaker 3 (03:34:21):
Awesome if you have any more or was that it?

Speaker 2 (03:34:24):
That was it? I guess omen two. Omen two is
one I could have added. I mean, there's there's so
many things like I think, I don't know to get
a little basic about it, Like Conjuring two is underappreciated
because everybody has sort of been like mcued to death
through the whole Conjuring universe that they've done. But Conjuring
two is like the an equal but opposite side of

(03:34:47):
the coin to Conjuring one that does not get the
love that it gets. I mean, it created like three
or four other iconic villains, some really great scare scenes
in that second movie, very cool setting to take it
where they I think it was really great. I mean
Patty in the chat he mentioned Escape from La. It's

(03:35:09):
not a good movie, but it's a really fun movie.
And I think seeing Escape from La on the big
screen really changed my feelings on it. It's it's a
hell of a lot of fun and does not deserve
to be maligned as much as it is. Let's see.
I mean, we could go through silly things that we
kind of already alluded to tonight, But you know, there's

(03:35:31):
there's a lot of major ones that people have talked about,
like you know, the Indiana Jones. The first one everybody
always loves, but the second and the third one to
so many people are way better.

Speaker 3 (03:35:42):
I I yeah, I've always said the Temple of Doom
is the best in the series.

Speaker 2 (03:35:47):
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (03:35:48):
It's well, that's the one that I as a kid,
as a little kid watching these movies. Temple of Doom
was the one that I just kept returning to because
it's like one it's like one action set piece after
the next that would appeal to a kid, like like

(03:36:09):
you know, jumping out of the plane, and then and
then they're on the raft and they're going down there,
and then they run off the cliff, and then there's
like the dinner with all of like the all of
the animals and the monkey brain and the snakes and
the whatever, and then you've got like the tunnels with
the bugs, and it's like one thing after that, and
then like the train ride and then the bridge at

(03:36:32):
the end, Like every single thing appealed to eight year
old me.

Speaker 2 (03:36:41):
Yeah, it's great. I mean, I don't know, there's so
many that we could talk about, but a lot of
these are also just like super appreciated, highly lauded films,
and so, I again, great choice for a topic tonight.
I feel like we really got some deep cuts. I mean,
one other show was talking about the Curse to the
Bite and Premer four and a long discussion on screen

(03:37:03):
three all in one show. This has been a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:37:06):
Of fun and a fivele deep dive.

Speaker 2 (03:37:09):
I forgot, Yes, what were the words? A hardcore fival discussion. Yeah,
and Patty Boy's right. Kevin Smith supposedly writing a sequel
to Dogma right now.

Speaker 3 (03:37:23):
It was also he was supposed to be writing a
sequel to mal Rats, but I don't know if he
if he's still doing that or not.

Speaker 2 (03:37:29):
I think it got tabled because somebody came and offered
to fund Dogma two if he did it immediately, she
was like, hold that thought, mal rats and went and
jumped on Dogma two. So he promised that he was
going to take Dogma two to the can Film Festival
by their eightieth anniversary or the eighty first, which would
be not next spring but the following spring.

Speaker 3 (03:37:50):
So why do I feel like he's not going to
bring back Linda Fiorentina because apparently he did not have
a good a good time filming.

Speaker 2 (03:37:59):
With Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (03:38:04):
Just think his actual words where I should have cast
Janine Garofalo in the role.

Speaker 2 (03:38:10):
I mean, I get that sentiment though, I'm.

Speaker 3 (03:38:14):
Sorry, I mean so we're thinking that, like Matt Damon
and Ben Affleck are going.

Speaker 2 (03:38:18):
That's what I was about to say. You can't go
into this and not get both of them right. They
have to do this.

Speaker 3 (03:38:24):
At least, of course God.

Speaker 2 (03:38:27):
Unfortunately the biggest missing Alan Rickman, of course. But yeah,
I'm very very curious to see how Dogma two will play.
And not to mention, what do you what do you
write it about? You know, after after his career and
the lampooning from not even really the Catholic Church but
the Catholic League, which is one person and most people
don't realize that it's like mostly one person. They're the

(03:38:50):
ones that attack Dogma to follow that up a handful
of years later with Red State. I want to see, like,
is there a completion of that trilogy of films that's
gonna piss off the religious right because dog and Red
State sure as fuck did it.

Speaker 3 (03:39:09):
Yeah, that's gonna be interesting to see.

Speaker 2 (03:39:11):
Oh my gosh, speaking of interesting to see, that has
been you, my friend. Thanks for being here tonight. This
has been such a blast, really great discussion. I love
Matthias is here and I say we're leaving right as
he says, good morning.

Speaker 3 (03:39:24):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (03:39:27):
Yeah. We've been live now almost four hours and not
a moment that I have been bored. I mean, listening
to us talk about these has been a lot of
fun for me, at least hopefully for everybody watching. Thank you,
Thank you. Really fun week scheduled for next week. Friend
of the show, Aaron West, who's writing the book on
A twenty four, is coming back and we're gonna have

(03:39:47):
a discussion on something that's super close to both of us.
It's gonna be a real fun one. I don't want
to spoil it necessarily, but it'll be a great discussion,
and I hope that you enjoy it next week, Dustin,
great night, lots of good announcements, Thanks for giving your time.

Speaker 3 (03:40:06):
Thank you so much. And if anybody dissed it at
the beginning, go see The Life of Check this weekend.
It is the best movie I'll see this year, and
the year is not out, but I seriously doubt I'll
see anything better.

Speaker 2 (03:40:20):
We'll see if it overtakes centers for me, because I
truly loved it. Mattia's you're in Sweden. One of what
band that I love is from Sweden. I hope you're
enjoying it over there. Hope you're healthy, happy, Dustin, You're amazing.
We'll get you back on hopefully sooner than nine months
or whatever. All right, thank you so much, appreciate you,

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(03:41:55):
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