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January 6, 2025 24 mins

In this conversation, Jordan and Jacqueline continue their conversation with special guest Klas Bäck from Pagos where they do a deeper dive into the intricacies of network tokens and debit routing, discussing their benefits, challenges, and the importance of data in optimizing payment processes.

They explore how network tokens can enhance acceptance rates and the complexities involved in implementing debit routing for merchants. The discussion focuses on the need for merchants to engage with their acquiring partners to leverage these technologies effectively. The conversation details the intricacies of BINs (Bank Identification Numbers) and their significance in payment processing. We discuss the differences between six-digit and eight-digit BINs, their applications in fraud prevention, customer relationship management, and transaction routing.

Lastly we explore the complexities of payment fees, including interchange rates and downgrades, emphasizing the importance of accurate data in optimizing transaction costs. The discussion highlights the need for merchants to be proactive in understanding their payment systems and the potential financial implications of mismanagement.

--------------- Also, Pagos is giving away FREE enriched BIN data on 25 BINs today to listeners. You can get those by clicking here: https://pagos.ai/landing/fraudboxer Klas Bäck - https://www.linkedin.com/in/klasback

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