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August 21, 2025 44 mins


Is your marketing driving real revenue or just making noise?

In this episode of The Hard Corps Marketing Show, host Casey Cheshire sits down with Karthiga Ratnam, a serial entrepreneur and marketing leader, for a bold and eye-opening conversation about the evolving role of marketing in modern business. Karthiga challenges conventional thinking around titles like "revenue marketer," arguing that all marketers should be tied to revenue outcomes. 

The discussion dives deep into brand vs. demand vs. category creation, highlighting why leading with connection, trust, and authenticity beats feature-based messaging every time. Karthiga also explains why understanding metrics like Net Retention Rate (NRR) is crucial, and why marketers need to partner closely with leadership, especially when pioneering a new category.

In this episode, we cover:

  • Why the term “revenue marketer” might be holding the industry back

  • How marketing and sales can align more effectively around value and impact

  • Why marketers should be tracking Net Retention Rate, not just pipeline

  • Karthi’s philosophy of kindness, collaboration, and long-term vision


Whether you're a B2B marketer, entrepreneur, or aspiring category creator, this episode is packed with hard-earned wisdom and fresh perspective you won't hear anywhere else!

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