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.0000000001Welcome to Crisis with Kira and isis.
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This is Crisis at Night.
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we're doing a little late night session.
Just some chit chat.
Fireside chats.
Fireside.
This is soda side.
Really? I'm gonna commit a soda side.
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I'm gonna murder this soda.
Oh God.
Oh my God.
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I'm cutting out.
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There we go.
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Um, you wanna, that was.
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It's funny.
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I like that.
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What time is it? Are they going to kick it? I just saw a guy.
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Oh, it's only, it's 941.
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We're chillin We're chillin We're supposed to be out of here at 45.
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Yeah, it's President's Day tomorrow, which we just realized, so we got excited.
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Yeah, we were going to record tomorrow.
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We need to sleep in.
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But.
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But it's going to be closed.
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It's closed.
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So we're like, okay, this is our only ample opportunity.
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And you don't have work.
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I don't have school.
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So we're going to edit.
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Good times and noodle salad.
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I feel like everything your parents did that like you hated as a kid, you like look back and you're like, Thank God.
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Oh my gosh.
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Obviously, I didn't have, I didn't have, I didn't have strict parents.
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Um, and I think people who had extremely strict parents, like, there's, you know, it's a balance.
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Like, you can go too far and then traumatize your kid both ways.
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Right.
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You know, but I would say for the most part.
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Most of the things that you didn't like, that your parents didn't let you do, or like, restricted you on, you look back and you're like, That was, that, I like, I'm so appreciative.
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Good choice, good choice.
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Yeah, I mean, I had strict parents, um, but like, And there's some things that I'm like, wow, that was stupid, but I think it was because, like, it, it was just on brand with all the other shit that wasn't stupid.
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I'm, I'm guessing from what I've gathered is like, what they were strict on, they were very strict on.
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Yes.
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But I don't feel like they were strict on Everything.
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Yeah.
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No, like, not, I was, uh, They're not a lot of dumb I was free to think.
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But, like, for example, like, I wasn't allowed to wear makeup and dye my hair and get piercings.
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But that also, like, the, the dumb part about that was like, I wasn't allowed to shave till I was like Too old like where I was like, this stupid, but you know, but that was on brand with all the other shit I guess so it was like what am I it's fine.
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You know, like I it wasn't like Unrelated to anything else.
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It was on brand with all the other shit.
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They were strict about so at least they were Consistent.
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Yeah.
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Um, I can't believe you weren't allowed to shave That's so traumatizing.
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I didn't wear makeup till I was like a senior And high school.
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Yeah.
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Also, my, I would say like in particular, my mom wasn't that consistent.
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So it was hard to know, like, the things that she would get mad about, you'd be like, this is on brand, but like, easily six months prior, it could have not bothered her.
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So it's like, if it had happened.
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So like one time she she took me, back to school clothes shopping.
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And we bought like.
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five or six dresses and then I wore one of the dresses to school like, you know, three weeks later and she's like, what the fuck are you wearing? And it was like at the time when she was letting me pick out the clothes, it didn't bother her, but for some reason her seeing me Like, I don't know what clicked in that moment to where she was like, absolutely not.
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And I thought that that was like the most backwards ass shit ever because she bought it for back to school shopping.
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But now I'm like, it's still kind of on brand with all the other not being promiscuous looking.
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So it all kind of fit in the big picture.
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Like shaving shouldn't have been that big of a deal.
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But I think she It still fell under that category.
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That category of like not being too mature, I guess.
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Yeah.
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Bullshit, but whatever.
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I never had restrictions on clothing, really.
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but also I was so I don't know I don't know if it It's like is it was me that was easy to be like that or was it? That philosophy that worked.
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I don't know cuz I never I don't think I was ever pushing it.
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Actually.
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I have such a specific memory of like wearing As guys call them, the forbidden leggings.
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Ha ha ha ha.
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Ah, like the like, boho ones.
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And like, just like a t I don't know, what is it? No, it was a tight top, I think.
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I don't know.
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I was wearing those and like, a tight top, and my mom was like, Well, you're leaving nothing to the imagination.
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And like, that.
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So there's been a few of those, which honestly, I mean, I still remember those moments to this day, so obviously they hit somewhere.
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But it's not like I didn't wear it, or it's not like, but, I don't know, those weirdly did make me kind of conscious about it, but, I don't know.
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Aware or conscious? I don't know, it's hard to look back now because I feel like I've gotten overly conscious now, so I don't know, at the time, maybe just to wear.
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Well, it's like another thing, like, for example, me wearing leggings never really looked provocative.
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It still doesn't.
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but I, like, specifically remember, like, my parents saying, like, how they understood why leggings shouldn't be allowed in school, but it was never something I wasn't allowed to wear.
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But again, like, I didn't have a booty to, like, pull my Lululemons up and, like, have, like, some cake thumpin around.
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So, like, my parents, you know, like, if I feel like, I feel like my parents would have told me not to wear it, if, but I just was, it was my, my body just wasn't giving ass, so.
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Right.
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Yeah, I'm trying to think, cause I mean, also like, I feel like my parents didn't really, like, put eyes on me going out the door that often, you know what I mean? Like, either I took the bus, or I'm like walking, or like, I don't know, they were easily working a lot, But, when I started dressing the most provocative was probably like my senior year of high school.
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Cause I was just really experimenting with clothing, you know, for the first time it felt like.
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Um.
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But, like, I was driving myself to and from school, so it's like, I, it's hard for me to, I, like, I don't know if my mom actually, like, if she did see me, would have, like, said something.
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I don't know.
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But I just feel like that's when I got the most Exposed.
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Yeah.
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Cause I remember, it, cause people at, like, school making, like, comments about it more than, you know what I mean? Like, just being like, what is happening? But also, that's, like, 17 year old age, and so it's, like I don't know.
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I, I think from a parent's perspective, I think that is probably the hardest time because you're like, you're still a child.
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But it also is the time that I think you have to let them kinda figure it out for themselves a little bit.
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So, I think it, I think it worked out well.
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Growing into like the next, well then it's like, it's hard too because it's like, uh, Yeah.
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And like, I look back When did you get boobs? Middle school.
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Maybe, maybe like sixth grade.
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But did they come in like heavy? Or like, I don't know if I had them before that or not.
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And I think I for sure did.
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But I was always fat too.
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So you gotta like, did I have tits or was I just fat? You know, I don't know.
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But like titties.
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Yeah, I just remember being objectified for the first time in like seventh grade.
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By like an adult? No, okay, by like a peer.
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Yeah, I just remember the little seventh grade boys are like, Damn, or something in the sense where I acknowledge your It's so cringe to even think about myself as a 7th grader with like this.
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It just makes me feel, yeah, it's cringe.
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Well, cause that's what like, this is where I have like more sympathy for parents.
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Cause it's like, it's just uh, yeah, it's This is terrible.
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But anyways, so I remember seventh grade is when it really hit me.
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Sixth grade, I don't remember anything.
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Seventh grade was like, okay.
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the thing is, is looking back, they weren't that big.
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But, I'm also being compared to other twelve and thirteen year olds.
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Yeah, Um, and then I don't But then like, I go into like high school and I'm like, yeah, definitely, definitely had tits.
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so what was the point of this conversation? I really don't know.
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Oh, we were talking about strict parents and just I how I was saying that I right.
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Okay Yeah, so, I mean, I know you never had a choice about cleavage sometimes, because it was just against your will, cleavage.
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Um, but gosh, I was so uncomfortable having cleavage.
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Like, just, so uncomfortable.
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You know, I actually didn't I was uncomfortable having cleavage until like a year ago.
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Well, I really uncomfortable until probably like my sophomore or junior year of college.
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Oof.
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Yeah.
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Like, rea like, okay, first of all, I never left the house without a bra.
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Until, like, my senior year of college.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, like, the thought of not having a bra on almost murdered me.
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And then, so, like, and so, I, I don't know if that was societal, cultural, also But thank God, because not wearing a bra in high school, or just the thought of high schoolers without bras just That's all.
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So like, it's just traumatizing.
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Yeah, it just seems terrible.
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I mean, it's like, it goes back to the leggings thing.
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Like, everyone shouldn't, like, everyone's not an issue, but then the ones that are an issue, kinda, you're just killing it for everybody.
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Yeah.
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And like, that's where the tits are hard, because like, you don't have a choice.
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Like, you said, like I said with the cleavage, I don't, if I'm wearing anything that doesn't go up to my I have my, my chest show.
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So it's like, but then, you know, but then like, I think back to leggings and there was like the intentionality to have it like all the way up the ass crack.
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Yeah.
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And like.
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Ah, just doing too much.
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But then you ruin it for everybody.
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So I'm like, do you over police it? Do you under police it? But then you got shit going crazy.
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Um, and then everyone's like confident in different ways.
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Oh my god, or having your nipples out.
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Oh my god, Tom, I'm on a nightmare.
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Oh my gosh.
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I mean, I remember But it's just so funny, cause then like, you get to college, and it's like, wow.
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Well, that is so unimportant at that point.
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And it's something Well, no, it is! Like in the best way.
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Well, but I was gonna say, like, it's like, now I, someone could come to class.
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But like, same, I don't, I mean, I don't know how it is.
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I feel like some people have that revolution in high school, but I'm very thankful that I, I, like, I think it is a better progression.
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It, I don't know, at least societally and like culturally makes me believe that, but, but you do just get more comfortable like in your, you know, like around like 20, You like actually, Yeah, with your frontal lobe developing, I think there's a huge increase in, Well also you begin to have like true confidence.
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Right.
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Not just like.
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Externally supported confidence.
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Yeah, or, or like just, um, like performative confidence, I guess.
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Well, I was gonna say, the other thing is like, you like, you, as you get older, I can actually tell, like, my confidence, like, just, like, my, in my own body, like, my mind and body connection has, like, solidified as I got older.
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So even if I was confident at any other point, Genuinely settle into it, like, your mind and soul and body.
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Like, after, you know, because, you know, 20 years is obviously, like, Somewhat of a long time, but it's really not that long to like get to know.
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Well, also because like the like it changed it so much in the first like 15 to 18 your little soul container, right? Yeah, like it just was constantly changing.
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Right, right.
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So it finally stops and it takes a couple years and you're like, okay.
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Okay.
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This is what's happening.
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I feel like it's like the same thing with like hormones.
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I think like Pretty much like, like five to ten years after your hormone's completely stuck.
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It's the same thing with menopause.
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As soon as you start, like you need like a decade until you're like back into your, like your range.
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You can't establish a routine.
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Right.
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In mayhem.
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Right, yeah.
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Um, so I, so yeah.
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I feel like.
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I understand where family and parents are coming from, I think it's annoying, but I also think there's other ways to, like, express yourself, I guess.
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I also was gonna say, like, you danced, so your parents are also used to seeing you in, like, leotards and stockings.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That kind of.
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But that's so contextual.
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Right.
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I mean, I'm sure it does affect then the every day, but it is very in context.
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Dude, talking about the most uncomfortable experience is like your mom taking you to the grocery store after dance and like you're in a leotard.
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I have never experienced that, it's bad.
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Oh my gosh, it's horrible.
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Really? At all ages or like only until you're like 12? always, always, always.
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Even at like 8? Yeah.
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Huh.
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I think so, I don't know, maybe not, but just, I, just, I, just, trauma.
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Cause I'm imagining 12 and being so uncomfortable.
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Horrible.
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Yeah, it sounds terrible.
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it's like if we walked into the, if we walked to the, to like Safeway in a bikini right now, it would be insane.
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But if we did it in Tahoe in the summer, it'd be like, whatever.
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Oh my God.
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Could you imagine? It's so weird.
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It's so weird how much context matters.
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Yeah, and it's weird because it's like this, it's both the public, like it's both open to the public population.
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Well, I think the other thing about why college makes it so different is because contextually, like, everyone's an adult.
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And so I think like, like, nobody is off limits, regardless of age, regardless of gap.
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Like, if your professor checks you out, it's It is what it is, you know what I'm saying? But in high school, that's just like Yeah, it's pervy because they're like, you're superior, like, professionally.
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Well, then it's like pervy because, like, even a woman teacher being like, your tits are everywhere is like, well, why are you even, like, looking at me? I'm 16.
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so it's like, it doesn't even matter who it's coming from.
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Any adult acknowledging Any part of you is super cringe and out of line.
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When you're in high school.
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Right, Yeah.
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But yeah.
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Should we get one more topic in? What color are notebooks? No, we can't have this discussion right now.
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Is this what we want to post though? What, are we gonna post two minutes about notebook colors? Like, Like, we're done.
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Alright, that was our little tidbit.
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Um That's just what came out.
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I don't know what to tell ya.
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That's what was on the front of our minds.
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Dude, I don't know.
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No gushers.
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I don't know.
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No, and just in relation to clothing, I don't know.
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I turned out so well, and my mom was so like, I really liked the way she did it, but I just feel like it would not work for every child.
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Probably not.
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And also, she only had one girl.
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And you're ugly.
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Man, I was ugly.
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Yeah, exactly.
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No, exactly.
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Like, I'm not, I'm not bringing home, like, any, oh my gosh, thinking about my first boyfriend, I'm like, they were probably so happy that that was my, just cause he's just a tiny, scrawny, white guy, that just, so unthreatening.
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You didn't bring, like, the quarterback home? Yeah.
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Like, when I get tattoos, and like.
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Yeah, like facial hair and they're hu I don't know.
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That would've been so funny if you just brought a huge ass.
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Even now if you brought a huge guy home.
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No, I know.
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It would be hilarious.
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I know like just like some Samoan guy too.
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but like big hair.
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Yeah, I just feel like, you know, like they, like, just, just to put them on their toes a little bit, cuz they're always just like Kira, like Like, you know what I mean? Like, they're not just, blah, whatever.
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Or, and they've never like felt, I feel like they've never had to be like protective, you know what I mean? But I just really want to kerfuffle them.
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Like, I've never gotten kerfuffled with a man.
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And that's just like what I want.
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We should, we should, we should, we should, we should plot.
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Yeah, like the mound.
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What is he? The mountain? The mountain from Game of Thrones? Yeah.
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Hahaha.
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The rock.
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Um.
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Okay, we gotta go.
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Anyways, that's been Crysis with Edna.
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With Kira.
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And Isis.
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Have a good night, you guys.
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Bye.