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.000000001Um, and we hope you guys stay tuned in to hear about all these great things.
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Dude, this is our first, like, late recording episode.
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Or this is our first, like, late night episode.
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This is our first delirium episode? Yeah, which I'm kind of excited.
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I feel like it's, I'm feeling the...
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The late night vibes? Yeah, the freaks come out at night, you know? Hold up, I'm like, feeling like, really overwhelmed with all that's going on.
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You look so funny! I'm having a sensory overload.
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I just can't wait to like see your intro and just cut to this! First of all...
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Oh my god, I went to Trader Joe's today in a dress, and it put me in the best mood, like, ever.
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Was it not freezing? Honestly, I probably felt better after that than like...
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My whole birthday.
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Yeah.
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Also, it's been freezing.
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Yeah, it's starting to get chilly.
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And all the leaves are falling officially.
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It's like no longer colors, it's just piles.
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Yeah.
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So, speaking of...
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I'm gonna go romp in them.
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Schwalloween, we did some research on the history of certain things, so we're going to touch on that.
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And we're going to talk about what we do, what we want to do, and kind of like just give you guys some background and some history on some of the spooky, spooky things that go on.
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Sorry, I was just trying not to burp.
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But I hope it didn't just catch.
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At least I can't smell it.
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Oh, I think we didn't address our costumes, like, at all.
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Oh! So for Halloween this year, we are...
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Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
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The geese! From Mariskats! Do we look like them? Which, if you haven't seen it...
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It's a great Halloween movie.
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It's a Disney movie from like the 70s and it's actually great.
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And the jazz playlist in there.
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We don't have an Uncle Waldo, though.
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We should've had Drew come in as a prop.
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Um, okay, so.
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What are your traditions? Well, there's some, because it's like, bobbing for apples, I did once.
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For my birthday once, when I was like, eight.
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that wasn't a family tradition we had, you know? I think I only did it once.
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I don't know if it needs to be.
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I read something about it and it said, in the research, it said, you know, apples are obviously a big part of fall, and then, there was one tradition where they would like, peel an apple, and they keep it into one, like, strand, like the, And then they would spin and like, throw it over their shoulder, and uh, Whatever letter it came out as, that was like their...
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future lovers first initial.
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Yes.
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But then bobbing for apples, it was like the first person to like get an apple with their teeth was like the first to get married in the new year.
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Yeah, so I have a thing here saying, by 43 A.
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D.,
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the Roman Empire had conquered a majority of Celtic territory in the course of the 400 years that they had ruled the Celtic lands.
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Two festivals of Roman origin were created with the tradition of Celtic celebration of How do you say it? Samhain? Samhain? I hate the way It's Gaelic.
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I hate Gaelic spelling.
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No, it's insane.
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Cause it's not.
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Like, that should be illegal.
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no sense.
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Samhain is spelled S M H A I N.
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Anyways, but it's, uh, I'm not gonna talk about the first one, but The second day was to honor Pomona, the Roman goddess of fruit and trees.
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The symbol of Pomona is the apple and the incorporation of the celebration to the Sowan? Sowan.
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Probably explains the tradition of bobbing for apples.
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That is practiced today on Halloween.
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Wait, fruit? Is it just fruit? No.
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Goddess of fruit and fertility? Fruit and trees.
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And her symbol was an apple, particularly.
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Okay, okay.
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The Roman Empire? Mm hmm.
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Um, I thought they had more of a thing with pomegranates.
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They probably have it somewhere in there, too.
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A Greek.
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Are Greeks more pomegranate? I don't know.
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I feel like pomegranates were more...
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I know, I think it might just be for this specific goddess.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But, um, so that's what I have about apples.
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Go ahead.
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Um, Oh, pumpkins.
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Hold on.
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I gotta like, I honestly feel like pumpkins were like, a thing.
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My dad, it's probably one of his favorite things to like, grow.
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Right.
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On the farm.
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Like, he always...
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Squash, zucchini.
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there's like multiple seasons where he would have a huge patch of pumpkins.
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and we would have loads of pumpkins come out of there.
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Um.
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Like big pumpkins or like pie pumpkins? Big, little, tiny, Edible? Medium, some.
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He would plant like, he would just throw nuts.
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Like you don't even know.
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Um, I wish he did more like the fairy tale ones though.
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I don't think he ever did those.
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Those are really cute.
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Those are so cute.
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But, and then he would like put them out on the side of the road.
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And be like, take home.
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But then like my first year of college, he had a GIANT pumpkin patch.
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I remember this.
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And I brought probably like 30 to 50 pumpkins to Reno.
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And I literally had like 15 in my apartment and I gave everybody I ran into a pumpkin.
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Yeah.
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I, it seemed like.
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Yes.
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Yeah, there's pumpkins everywhere and they were there forever.
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Yeah, like they never died.
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They were like everlasting pumpkins pumpkins.
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Yeah up until the summer But yes, my dad's got a real real thing for pumpkins any other major traditions Mmm, not really.
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Um, for me, Helen's a little bit complicated.
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I think my parents.
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My dad in particular cared about Halloween I don't really recall this but there's always a picture of me when my parents were together dressed up as Halloween like my dad has This picture of me as a clown, and I'm like maybe like one or two years old So I'm like if people thought it was like a like a doll That they had that he was standing next to and it was like a picture of me And I think he had that like on his desk for a while And then there's like this one of my sister where she's the rag doll, the red one.
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Do you know what I'm talking about? With like curly hair and like a bonnet.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't know what that's called.
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Raggedy Ann.
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Raggedy Ann.
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Gia has a really cute picture of her dressed up as Raggedy Ann.
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Um, like adorable.
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And then, um, after that kind of Halloween, my parents separated and then when we were in L.
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A.
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because of the Armenian community, we didn't really do Halloween very well.
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Um, and it wasn't until I was like a teenager or like a tweenager when we could go like, to the other neighborhoods.
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But it wasn't really like that big of a thing So I did prefer Vegas for Halloween for sure also the entire Neighborhoods took it seriously So in terms of like traditions, I don't necessarily have any Um, I personally really like Halloween because I feel like it's a low expectation holiday.
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Like, no one else matters on Halloween.
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Like, you can do it by yourself, you could do it with others.
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Um, there's no really gifts involved, so there's no expectation.
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All it is is just to go out and have fun.
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Um, so I particularly love the holiday.
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That's good.
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I was going to say, also, the infamous elementary school fall festival.
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With the infamous...
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Mmm, that part.
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Um, so I did want to read this, So basically it says here that Halloween origins date back to ancient Celtic festival of Samhain.
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the Celts who lived, 2, 000 years ago, mostly in the area that is now Ireland and the United Kingdom and Northern France, celebrated their own New Year on November 1st.
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So, this day marked the end of the summer and the harvest and the beginning of the dark, cold winter.
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Time of the year was often associated with human death.
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Uh, Celts believed that on the night before New Year's, the boundary between the worlds of the living and the dead became blurred.
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On the night of October 31st, they celebrated Samhain, when it was believed that ghosts and the dead returned to Earth.
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In addition to causing trouble and damaging crops, Celts thought that the presence of the Otherworldly spirits made it easier for druids or Celtic priests to make predictions about the future for people, entirely dependent on the volatile natural world.
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These prophecies were, an important source of comfort during the long, dark winter, I read somewhere that they first started carving turnips.
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Yes, I have that noted here.
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That was so what I have on that is okay, so there's two things.
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One was that they would, initially, they would build a massive fire.
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Which I think is brilliant.
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We should bring the fire back.
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So they would build a massive fire and that kind of ended in the early half of the 20th century.
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And it was replaced with two things.
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Yes, the turnips, um, but the turnips were also lanterns.
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So people could walk at night.
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Um, but they would also use, because the fire was I don't think the turnips were lanterns.
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I think they had lanterns and they would carve Turnip.
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So there's like kind of cross intersects here, it seems like because it says that basically the fire, the point of it was to guide the spirits.
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Yeah.
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And so they replace that with candles and then lantern like to hold the candle parsnips.
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I think we're part of it.
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And that's why they're carved to like still have like light.
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And then from there, they realized that pumpkins were bigger and made more sense.
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I guess I read that they just started carving turnips for Into scary faces to like put in their windows to like ward off the evil spirits, and then I was kind of confused Where they started lighting them because then in another place it explained all about Like jack o lanterns, and like why they're even called jack o lanterns, and just because people at, night, like, watchmen with lanterns and they didn't know what to call them, and like, just a really common name is Jack, so they just call him, like, Jack of the Lantern, and then, yeah, so then there's the carved turnips, and then the, Jack of the Lantern and then at some point, they realized pumpkins are like easier to carve and then if they wanted to put light in them, I'm sure it like just made more sense because I feel like turnips aren't like big enough and like the, I saw a picture of one and it didn't look hollowed out like, oh, just carved.
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Yeah.
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So I'm a little Confused on that, but at some point, the carved faces to ward off the evil spirits and the lights got incorporated.
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Right.
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Because I also read that the jack o lantern was to, like, ward off the, the face was to ward off the evil spirits, but also the light was to, like, welcome your deceased ancestors.
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So.
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Yeah, I mean, I personally do not enjoy carving pumpkins.
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I think it's a messy, irritating process.
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And you just cut yourself.
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And yeah, you never have the right tools.
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And it's just like, and you just bleh.
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Yeah, the tools you buy are always terrible.
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Yeah, and it's just like such a, and they get rotten.
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So I feel like they're great when you have like a family, otherwise they're a complete waste of time and energy.
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Just paint the thing and it makes it so much cleaner and easier.
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Um, but turnips, I would love to whittle a little, whittle a little turnip, you know, and then you just like, and goodbye turnip, but you know, no one, you can't even eat the pumpkin either.
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So it's like, yeah.
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Would you ever roast the seeds? Yeah, I think that's a...
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They're never as good as you want them to be though.
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They're never like, meh, and they're always like, you can't, they're also compared to sunflower seeds, which we eat, like, more regularly, those are so easy to, like, open.
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And pumpkin seeds, I know you can eat the whole thing, but...
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Yeah, but then you're just like...
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Yeah, you're like chewing on...
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Actually, could be some good fiber.
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So's corn.
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So one of the other things I want to talk about, so we already talked about how, like from the Celtics, it went to the Romans.
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So after the Romans, the church.
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Catholic Church.
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And so the Popes wanted to like, you know, make these holidays more church friendly.
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Um, so because people would be more likely to join the church if their favorite festivals remained to some degree.
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So basically, on November 1st, they used to think about all the saints as martyrs, like the day was moved from like May to November, and then like sometime after that, they wanted to separate the All Souls Day.
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And that was the day to honor the dead, which is also kind of like how we get to like Dia de los Muertos today.
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But basically, All Souls Day was similar to Samoay, Wahaavna, whatever it is.
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Um, and Samanamna wada wapuda.
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And they had big bonfires, parades, and they all dressed in costume as saints, angels, and devils.
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Which I think is actually really great.
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Does that make you feel better? about dressing as a devil.
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Just a little bit.
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Um, so all souls day turned to all Hollows to the all hollow mass as like the day before Saints day and so the night before it.
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I heard hollows meant like to sanctify.
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Quite could have been.
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And so basically, All Saints Day slowly turned into Hall All Hallows Eve and then eventually Halloween.
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How do we get that ween in there? Where did that forked in the eye come from? Ween.
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I feel like All Hallows Eve makes like more sense, but I don't know where the ween Who knows? I don't know.
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But, I know like I don't know.
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Like, the Celtics already had like, the relationship of the time of year.
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Relating to death and then, their own way to, honor the dead.
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but I know less about that than, how the Catholics took it and then, um, also made, like, a day of the dead.
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well, I guess, because the Celtics believe, right, that, like, the veil was thinned and they could more likely to be able to talk to the dead.
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Right.
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Um, or, like, do, um, Divination? Div divine nate? Divin divin divin gee? Divination? Divination? I think it might be divi I don't know.
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Divi Divination, I know what you're talking about.
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Divination? We probably shouldn't.
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Oh my god! She didn't even tell us the text! And it's gonna be like the most obvious thing ever? I'm just, nevermind.
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yeah, are there any other I don't know I mean our traditions are hella basic like, you know They're just the good old American funsies, right so Speaking of the all american.
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How did we get where we are from what was going on with the All Saints, right? so basically And this is kind of obvious, I guess, but not really.
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So Halloween was extremely limited in colonial New England because of the rigid, Protestant beliefs.
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Who would have guessed? However, I was just drinking my bonnet.
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Um, customs from different European ethnic groups and American Indians meshed and we kind of started seeing this like, emergence of Halloween come along and basically the first celebration included these play parties, which were public events held to celebrate the harvest neighbors would share stories about the dead tell each other fortunes dance and sing.
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However, these colonial Halloween festivities kind of became Um, time to, uh, tell ghost stories and become like very mischievous.
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And by the 19th century, an annual autumn festivals, were common, but Halloween was not yet celebrated.
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So.
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That's where we were.
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However, in the second half of the 19th century, America was flooded with immigrants, and those Irish fleeing from the potato famine helped popularize our current celebration of Halloween.
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They brought the turnips! They're like, check this out! You just put this in your window? Pretty cool! Pretty sick! So I honestly think that's kind of interesting in the sense that, like, I love an autumn gathering.
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Like, I really enjoy that community sense.
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Also like, cause it is like time of big harvest.
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Right.
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End of harvest.
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Get all this while it's good.
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Get all fat before the winter.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, Thanksgiving is similar to that, but having one that has some kind of spiritual spooky background to it makes it like, cause Thanksgiving is all about giving and being grateful.
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In American culture, we don't have.
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Really a memorial day like we have Memorial Day, but that's mostly for like our fallen soldiers.
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Yeah, it's very specific Yeah, and so like like in the Armenian background like there is like a holiday for the dead which I think is dead Yeah, which I think is really important to have so being that the United States doesn't have it at all I think Halloween having this like memorance should be brought back.
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Me too.
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I was gonna say there's like two things happening It's like celebrating harvest but then, like, having the day to, like, acknowledge whether you think that, you know, the veil between the dead and the living is thinned or not.
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Taking a day to remember our ancestors, our loved ones, I think would be pretty meaningful.
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Yes, I concur.
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And it's just funny because here we are dressed as geese, and it's just a fun holiday, right now, but holidays, you know, even in the name Holy Day, like, they're originally all very, meaningful, and not to say that, What we do now for Halloween isn't meaningful, but it's definitely like it doesn't have a spiritual meaning to it So even like Christmas is really fun.
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But like, you know, if you're OG about it, you're still going to you know Go to church or have like some kind of Sabbath with your family of sorts? And like, you know American culture is obviously that kind of removed a lot of that for a bunch of people But Halloween still happens to have the least amount of importance.
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Yeah, which is honestly crazy.
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Because we're the most celebrated.
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Well, but also like, remembering the dead seems like a pretty like, not unimportant thing to do.
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Right, and it's very secular, I feel like, because like part of the issue, or it's like very open to all groups.
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Right.
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Like inherent, like Christmas, okay, kind of exclusive, Easter exclusive, um, you know.
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All the other ones have like, whatever.
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Ruffling my feathers.
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But, um, but Halloween and like the idea of having some kind of remembrance for the dead, whatever you do, I feel like that is like just very human.
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And like our country just is like, nah.
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It's kinda, it's weird too because, you know, obviously we were a country like, Founded by Christians.
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But then like you said, originally it was you know, very uptight Protestants that I don't think liked any holidays.
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Sort of? I don't know.
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I would just, or I think they were really trying to, because like the Roman Empire, they took the Celtic, traditions and tried to like combine them with their religion.
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But I'm guessing the Protestants just, thought that because it was combined with originally, Celtic traditions and, pagan traditions, they were like, gotta cut that out.
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Right.
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That, I mean, would be my guess.
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Yeah, I fully agree.
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But I think it's weird because since we still celebrate, Halloween, I would think that they would much rather have it be a day of the dead than what it is now.
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feel like to them they would be like This is a day of sin now! Like, just absolute debauchery, and like, oh, Lord.
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Halloween expressed by the average person, like, today, especially the average, like, adult.
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I think they would die.
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Yeah.
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So I'm kind of surprised.
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I think I don't know, I mean, I'm not very religiously enlightened, but I think there are, specific things where, having any connection to the dead is, negative, like you're not supposed to in some sense as well, like I wouldn't be surprised if the Protestants Wait, in Christianity? Yeah, somewhere in there.
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Like, I wouldn't be surprised if the Protestants didn't celebrate it because the Catholics did.
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And that was just off of principle.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, and like, you know, just like kind of villainified Oh, totally.
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The thing.
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But it, but you know what I mean? I think that's kind of ironic that Because that's like, not what, you know, we believe in.
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so they, ripped the really meaningful part that like Celtics had for it.
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Right.
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And because of that, now it's just left as a dress and his geese.
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And speaking of like the removal of like certain things.
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So, after what I was talking about in terms of like we had Halloween and like finally we have like the Irish come, right? The Irish come, and, um, With their turnips.
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And, yeah, this, like, the early, yeah, they come.
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I don't know if they came with the turnips, but they came.
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Uh, and they conquered, no.
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And, um, So, by the 1920s and 30s, Halloween had become a secular community centered holiday with parades and town wide Halloween parties and there'd be entertainment and this would happen with like schools and communities But what happened is at this time Vandalism began to like plague society terribly.
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So a lot of communities were like None of this.
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Mm-Hmm.
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So by the 50 town leaders had successfully, like limited vandalism and Halloween had evolved into a holiday directly maintained by the young.
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And due to the number of young children created during the fifties, baby boom, the parties moved from like town centers and classrooms into the home.
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Interesting.
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Mm hmm.
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Where they could be more easily accommodated, I guess, which I think is the downhill of Halloween.
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Um, I think it needs to be community based and it does not need to be internally based.
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I think we've kind of come back from that, but that was because, and this is crazy, between the 1920s.
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In the 1950s, the century old practice of trick or treating was also revived.
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Trick or treating was a relatively inexpensive way for an entire community to share the Halloween celebration.
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In theory, families could also prevent tricks being played on them by providing the neighbor's children with small treats.
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Cut down the vandalism.
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Um, with that being said, there is a new American tradition that is now a six billion dollar holiday called Halloween.
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And it is the second largest commercial holiday after Christmas.
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With that being said, speaking of shmoney, One quarter of all candies sold annually in the U.
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is purchased for Halloween.
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That's bonkers! That is bonkers.
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That should be illegal.
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For some reason, I totally blocked out the candy part.
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Of the trick or treating? What do you mean? Like, I just haven't thought about that, like.
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At all, as like a tradition.
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Did you, can you trick or treat in your neighborhood? It's, they're really long roads.
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We would, oh, I totally forgot about this.
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Um, this is like in the countryside, so obviously.
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We don't have like houses touching houses and the roads don't have sidewalks.
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So, so they would have all the kids And drunk driving's allowed, so.
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They would have all the kids go to like one house.
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Um.
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Like this guy, and he had like, a tractor with like hay in the back, and so we would all hop in the, hop in the hay in the tractor, like a hay ride, you know, and then we would go.
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On the street to each, to like, houses.
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Yeah.
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That's kind of adorable.
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I know.
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I totally forgot about that.
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Cause when I got older, I just started trigger treating like in the city.
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The city.
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Is that what we're calling it out? No, it's a don.
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It's a don in the don.
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But, you don't get a lot of candy that way.
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No.
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Cause it's like...
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You know, 10 minutes to the next house.
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Yeah, sounds kind of depressing.
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But it was fun.
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I mean, it's cool.
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Well, you're mostly hanging out with friends at that point.
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And these are pit stops.
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Right, and it's kind of adorable when you just imagine it driving down the road.
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Um, so borrowing from European traditions, Americans began to dress up in costume and go house to house asking for food or money.
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A practice that eventually became today's trick or treating tradition.
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In the late 1800s, there was a move in America to mold Halloween into a holiday more about community and neighborhood getting togethers than ghosts, pranks, and witchcraft.
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And parents were encouraged by newspapers and community leaders to take anything frightening and grotesque out of holiday celebrations.
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Because of these efforts, Halloween lost most of its superstitious and religious overtones by the beginning of the 20th century.
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That's crazy.
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So, I've never Well, but, but that's what I mean, even those people, it's like, they wanted it to be, which trick or treating, like, I don't know, if you're with parents and kids, it's still somewhat that, That wholesome community event.
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Right.
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Cause everyone has to be on, like everyone knows that this is a day.
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I don't know.
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I mean, honestly, I don't know, I'm trying to, I can't reason this.
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Or like, help me out here.
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Cause it's like, young adults today, like Halloween is just, Debauchery.
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Debauchery.
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But it's like, would young adults back then, when it was more religious like care a little bit more Yeah, you know what I mean? Well, it was also like that, like, because young adults had nothing to really do.
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I'm sure they'd be more likely to, I mean, young adults just do, do debauchery anyways.
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So I'm sure it was in combination, but if it had a religious aspect today, I'm sure we would still We would care along with the debauchery.
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Right.
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You know what I mean? Yeah No 100 percent and I mean like they stated like that was part of why like they became like more of a In the house kind of thing was to get rid of all the like the mischief that like young adults were causing And just vandalizing stuff and just being a ruck So I think part of the downside as an adult the reason why all we do is like debauchery is because there are There is nothing for us to do because like the trick or treating isn't meant for us Yeah, we don't have kids to take trick or treating.
347
00:26:31,141.1732438 --> 00:26:42,411.1712438
And yeah, and like the, and we can't go, and so what all else are we supposed to do except dress up and try to feel again by drinking copious amounts of alcohol and doing dumb things? Yeah.
348
00:26:42,641.1712438 --> 00:26:46,291.1712438
Like what else do you do? Right, how else do you celebrate? Mm hmm.
349
00:26:46,691.1712438 --> 00:26:50,981.1722438
Um, any What if we could all go build a big fire? Right.
350
00:26:51,481.1722438 --> 00:26:52,531.1722438
In the forest.
351
00:26:53,361.1722438 --> 00:26:55,711.1722438
In, in downtown Reno.
352
00:26:55,881.1722438 --> 00:27:00,611.1722438
Well, yeah, there was a part in there that like, probably part of the reason they stopped doing big fires was because it became like a hazard.
353
00:27:01,781.1722438 --> 00:27:01,801.1722438
Yeah.
354
00:27:01,831.1722438 --> 00:27:04,361.1712438
No way! If you have regulated big fires.
355
00:27:04,361.1722438 --> 00:27:10,411.1722438
Bro, you know how much BLM land we got just open? No, but that's what I'm saying, like, if you have regulated fires.
356
00:27:10,661.1722438 --> 00:27:10,961.1722438
Right.
357
00:27:11,431.1722438 --> 00:27:13,51.1712438
City Right, right, right, right.
358
00:27:13,51.1712438 --> 00:27:13,641.1712438
Controlled fires.
359
00:27:13,641.1712438 --> 00:27:16,701.1712438
City sanctioned, giant bonfire? It'd be insane.
360
00:27:16,861.1722438 --> 00:27:17,921.1722438
We could totally do it.
361
00:27:17,991.1722438 --> 00:27:31,66.1722438
It'd like, it'd be like Hot firefighters on standby? Not dressing costume, police officers? Peeling turnips? No, I think that would be a good way to get a lot of vibes out.
362
00:27:31,416.1712438 --> 00:27:48,221.1722438
Um, and just, you could just What would suck though, cause honestly I feel like if that If they actually did do that like nowadays, like You'd probably have to be like, 30 feet back from the fire, and like, la la la.
363
00:27:48,651.1722438 --> 00:27:49,71.1722438
I don't know.
364
00:27:49,401.1722438 --> 00:27:50,381.1717438
I think it'd be a good time.
365
00:27:50,381.1717438 --> 00:27:54,816.1722438
Do you have any like, Halloween movie traditions or anything? Um, no.
366
00:27:55,326.1722438 --> 00:27:56,426.1722438
No? No.
367
00:27:57,86.1722438 --> 00:28:18,826.1722438
Um, do you want to hear about the Halloween backstory? To take a guess, I would imagine that just like before we had movies in general, we had oral tradition and stories and like they told scary stories and then that just like our oral traditions became movies.
368
00:28:19,121.1722438 --> 00:28:20,11.1722438
Those became movies.
369
00:28:20,31.1722438 --> 00:28:23,561.1722438
Yes, so a lot of it was stories and then plays.
370
00:28:24,34.5544041 --> 00:28:25,854.5544041
I never thought about it like that.
371
00:28:25,874.5544041 --> 00:28:33,214.4544041
Cause I like read, I was reading about like the scary stories and I was like, man, I haven't heard a scary story like ever.
372
00:28:33,214.5544041 --> 00:28:34,24.5534041
I wish we did more oral tradition.
373
00:28:34,984.5534041 --> 00:28:38,934.5544041
Me too, but then yeah, I mean I haven't heard any oral tradition ever, so.
374
00:28:39,224.5544041 --> 00:28:46,934.5544041
Right, so, um, but yeah, so they started off as like, But, movies do still serve that purpose.
375
00:28:47,64.5544041 --> 00:28:47,314.5544041
Right.
376
00:28:47,749.5544041 --> 00:28:48,29.5544041
Right.
377
00:28:48,29.5544041 --> 00:28:50,529.5544041
Yeah, because we can talk about it without reiterating the whole thing.
378
00:28:51,169.5544041 --> 00:29:17,317.5458094
anyway, so speaking of movies Yeah in these movies so it started off with verbal and then plays and whatever whatever and then you've got books like Frankenstein and whatever whatever and then There's arguments about like the first movie but in American history the main one seems to have been the German, and there's in 1922, there's like a Dracula knockoff that kind of just came from the book and so on and so forth.
379
00:29:17,317.5458094 --> 00:29:19,517.5458094
So, yeah, these things kind of play off of each other.
380
00:29:19,567.5458094 --> 00:29:24,267.5458094
Nosferatu? I know that movie's hella old.
381
00:29:24,267.5458094 --> 00:29:25,737.5458094
Yeah, I think it might be that one.
382
00:29:26,707.5458094 --> 00:29:30,777.5448094
Um, and then from there we get into like, you know, the classic Halloween franchise.
383
00:29:31,137.5458094 --> 00:29:38,987.5458094
And that's kind of all I have to say, but Halloween movies have now like fallen into two places where it's like the, it's like Halloween and...
384
00:29:39,792.5458094 --> 00:29:47,102.5458094
Like Scream and Slasher and then it goes into like the more like family friendly like Beetlejuice and the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown and things like that.
385
00:29:47,462.5458094 --> 00:29:48,852.5458094
So, I...
386
00:29:49,162.5458094 --> 00:29:51,382.5458094
Charlie Brown's old.
387
00:29:51,632.5448094 --> 00:29:53,532.5458094
It is old, but it's great.
388
00:29:53,542.5448094 --> 00:29:54,522.5458094
It's like 60s.
389
00:29:54,562.5458094 --> 00:30:00,932.5458094
But I wonder like before people had like Halloween, I mean before they had Halloween movies to watch they probably just told stories.
390
00:30:00,962.5458094 --> 00:30:01,172.5458094
Yeah.
391
00:30:01,172.5458094 --> 00:30:02,652.5458094
It's just kind of sad that we don't do that anymore.
392
00:30:02,702.5458094 --> 00:30:03,82.5458094
Books.
393
00:30:03,462.5458094 --> 00:30:03,952.5458094
Yeah.
394
00:30:04,797.5458094 --> 00:30:12,307.5458094
I've never read a scary book, have you? Um, I used to read, like, really cheesy murder mysteries, but...
395
00:30:13,237.5448094 --> 00:30:15,367.5458094
Yeah, you think that's really scary? No.
396
00:30:15,677.5458094 --> 00:30:17,217.5458094
No? No, they weren't really scary.
397
00:30:18,127.5458094 --> 00:30:21,887.5458094
Do you like, would you, do you think you could read a scary book? I don't know.
398
00:30:22,137.5448094 --> 00:30:26,937.5458094
Something tells me that would like a psychological thriller, like, just an actual, like, horror...
399
00:30:28,362.5458094 --> 00:30:57,500.6665551
I just can't imagine any He turned to the next page! AHH! And then he jumps out of the closet! I don't know I was gonna say, you know another huge Religious, non religious holiday we have Um, are you talking about Valentine's Day or Arbor Day? Um, think saints.
400
00:30:58,230.6665551 --> 00:30:58,810.6665551
Oh.
401
00:30:58,950.6665551 --> 00:31:03,650.6665551
Oh! Um, Mardi Gras? Yeah! Well, that's not like a...
402
00:31:05,100.6665551 --> 00:31:06,200.6665551
It's 100 percent religious.
403
00:31:06,230.6665551 --> 00:31:09,310.6665551
Well, no, I know, I mean, but Mardi Gras is specific to New Orleans.
404
00:31:09,530.6665551 --> 00:31:10,630.6665551
Yeah, I know.
405
00:31:11,350.6665551 --> 00:31:13,70.6665551
Like, we don't celebrate Mardi Gras.
406
00:31:13,140.6655551 --> 00:31:13,630.6665551
I know.
407
00:31:13,840.6665551 --> 00:31:17,480.6665551
But, like, Fat Tuesday is the holiday, but.
408
00:31:17,880.6665551 --> 00:31:18,270.6665551
Yeah.
409
00:31:18,350.6655551 --> 00:31:18,670.6655551
Yeah.
410
00:31:18,920.6665551 --> 00:31:20,710.6665551
But, we should.
411
00:31:23,410.6655551 --> 00:31:24,80.6655551
Yeah.
412
00:31:24,670.6655551 --> 00:31:24,920.6655551
Yeah.
413
00:31:24,940.6665551 --> 00:31:31,10.6665551
I don't know, I mean, I would love to go to Mardi Gras, I'm just not Christian, so I feel like I can't just hop into Fat Tuesday.
414
00:31:33,495.6665551 --> 00:31:33,505.6665551
Hmm.
415
00:31:33,875.6665551 --> 00:31:36,735.6665551
I mean, cause the whole thing is to like Well, it wouldn't make sense for me.
416
00:31:36,905.6665551 --> 00:31:37,355.6665551
Right.
417
00:31:37,485.6665551 --> 00:31:40,935.6665551
Cause you're not gonna do Ash Wednesday the next day.
418
00:31:40,935.7665551 --> 00:31:44,915.6665551
I would love to participate in the debauchery, but I don't even know if it's the next day.
419
00:31:45,415.6665551 --> 00:31:46,745.6665551
Right, cause that's the day before Lent.
420
00:31:46,915.6665551 --> 00:31:47,215.6655551
Mm hmm.
421
00:31:47,215.6665551 --> 00:31:47,445.6665551
Mm.
422
00:31:48,545.6655551 --> 00:31:49,975.6655551
And you're supposed to just go nuts.
423
00:31:50,265.6665551 --> 00:31:50,605.6665551
Right.
424
00:31:50,925.6665551 --> 00:31:52,535.6655551
Before you gotta Which is so funny.
425
00:31:53,730.6665551 --> 00:31:54,100.6665551
Hey.
426
00:31:54,320.6665551 --> 00:31:58,650.6665551
It's just funny, like, the natural, just like, human responses to things.
427
00:31:58,690.6665551 --> 00:32:12,670.6665551
Cause there's no way that when they were like, alright, so we're gonna have this 40 day period of like, holy fasting and like, repenting, I don't know what they do, what do they, you know, like, it's about giving up something.
428
00:32:12,690.6655551 --> 00:32:12,900.6655551
Right.
429
00:32:13,100.6655551 --> 00:32:14,10.6655551
To be a better person.
430
00:32:14,130.6665551 --> 00:32:15,10.6665551
person.
431
00:32:15,280.6665551 --> 00:32:22,490.6665551
And like, I don't think they ever were like, so the night before, we're going crazy.
432
00:32:22,960.6655551 --> 00:32:24,340.6665551
Banana time.
433
00:32:24,690.6665551 --> 00:32:25,420.6665551
There's no way.
434
00:32:25,670.6655551 --> 00:32:27,950.6655551
No, I think it's like the natural human response.
435
00:32:28,20.6665551 --> 00:32:31,390.6655551
If you're gonna go on a diet the day before, you're like, okay, I need to eat everything.
436
00:32:31,830.6665551 --> 00:32:32,270.6665551
Yeah, right.
437
00:32:32,280.6655551 --> 00:32:35,960.6665551
It probably started out as like, okay, we're gonna do like a fast for 40 days.
438
00:32:35,970.6665551 --> 00:32:41,890.6665551
So then like eat a big meal before, you know? And then like, oh, we're gonna give out, we're gonna give up.
439
00:32:42,435.6665551 --> 00:32:43,575.6665551
Alcohol this time.
440
00:32:43,605.6665551 --> 00:32:51,805.6665551
Okay, so I'm gonna get really drunk before or something and then like it just like spiraled into Fat Tuesday, which is insane.
441
00:32:52,525.6665551 --> 00:33:00,325.6665551
To showing your titties so people throw beads at you? Like, what? Insane.
442
00:33:02,205.6665551 --> 00:33:07,385.6665551
Like, so you literally turned into a prostitute the night before? That's bonkers.
443
00:33:07,760.6665551 --> 00:33:08,10.6665551
Duh.
444
00:33:08,770.6665551 --> 00:33:17,570.6655551
How else am I supposed to go 40 days? I'm showing my titties to tits? Come on, bro.
445
00:33:18,260.6665551 --> 00:33:20,320.6665551
No, it's definitely a man made construct, though.
446
00:33:22,490.6665551 --> 00:33:24,680.6665551
I wonder if that would be interesting.
447
00:33:24,740.6665551 --> 00:33:25,370.6665551
How the Protestants...
448
00:33:27,870.6665551 --> 00:33:28,960.6665551
They'd be so proud.
449
00:33:30,440.6665551 --> 00:33:31,120.6665551
The Protestants.
450
00:33:31,140.6665551 --> 00:33:32,980.6665551
Into the country that we turned into.
451
00:33:34,880.6665551 --> 00:33:37,850.6665551
Our founding fathers would be thrilled.
452
00:33:38,330.6665551 --> 00:33:44,160.6665551
Um, anyways, traditional colors, guess what they were? Of Halloween.
453
00:33:44,430.6665551 --> 00:33:46,440.6665551
Cause now they're like purple and green and black and...
454
00:33:46,530.6665551 --> 00:33:47,480.6665551
Uh...
455
00:33:49,160.6665551 --> 00:33:49,550.6665551
White.
456
00:33:49,830.6665551 --> 00:33:50,600.6665551
Yellow and brown.
457
00:33:51,800.6665551 --> 00:33:51,980.6665551
Aww.
458
00:33:52,110.6665551 --> 00:33:55,500.6665551
Yellow and brown? I think they're like, same like Thanksgiving, like harvest.
459
00:33:55,500.6665551 --> 00:33:56,90.6665551
Yeah.
460
00:33:56,600.6665551 --> 00:33:57,60.6665551
But.
461
00:33:57,190.6665551 --> 00:33:57,620.6665551
Yeah.
462
00:33:58,7.3332218 --> 00:34:05,277.3332218
all right, so I'm gonna tell you the last few things and you can pick what we talk about next So all souls day and soul cakes go together I'm right about the soul cakes.
463
00:34:05,647.3332218 --> 00:34:08,147.3332218
I have a big thing to say about the soul cakes soul cakes.
464
00:34:08,147.3332218 --> 00:34:11,557.3332218
It'd be a good band name Yeah, black cat.
465
00:34:11,887.3332218 --> 00:34:13,27.3332218
I'll call you a soul cake.
466
00:34:14,547.3332218 --> 00:34:18,567.3332218
I Think that's a cute nickname Black cats and ghosts on Halloween.
467
00:34:18,577.3332218 --> 00:34:25,552.3332218
That's the second one and just like other And then, um, the lesser known rituals and Halloween matchmaking.
468
00:34:26,162.3332218 --> 00:34:27,42.3332218
Oh.
469
00:34:28,172.3332218 --> 00:34:34,262.3332218
So where do you want to go? So you celebrate grandpa and get hitched? Something like that.
470
00:34:36,102.3332218 --> 00:34:40,82.3322218
Um, well I'm guessing the black cats and all that.
471
00:34:40,82.4322218 --> 00:34:44,332.3332218
Wombo Gombo is about witches and all that tomfoolery.
472
00:34:44,742.3332218 --> 00:34:45,462.3332218
Um.
473
00:34:45,492.3332218 --> 00:34:46,442.3332218
I didn't actually know that.
474
00:34:46,442.3332218 --> 00:34:49,732.3332218
I mean, I guess it makes complete sense and I like, once I read it I was like, duh.
475
00:34:50,32.3322218 --> 00:34:56,492.3332218
But yeah, in the Middle Ages people believe that witches avoided detection by turning themselves into black cats Which I was like, bro.
476
00:34:56,532.3332218 --> 00:35:04,127.3332218
Have you? Hard, like, I don't know, I've read so much about, like, witches and, like, all their lore and, like, broomsticks.
477
00:35:04,347.3332218 --> 00:35:16,583.9274677
And somewhere, I remember reading about, like, them riding their broomsticks, having some For some reason, the way I'm remembering it, This can't be right.
478
00:35:17,633.9274677 --> 00:35:21,343.9274677
I'm remembering them, like, applying Why ointment? I don't know.
479
00:35:21,343.9274677 --> 00:35:24,523.9274677
I'm thinking of, like, balms being applied to the broomstick.
480
00:35:24,523.9274677 --> 00:35:27,533.9274677
Maybe that's because of lubrication? But then, like, riding them.
481
00:35:27,928.9274677 --> 00:35:38,958.9274677
Like, Tchhhhhhhhhh Ummm What? No, that's like a thing.
482
00:35:38,968.9274677 --> 00:35:39,758.9274677
Look it up.
483
00:35:41,258.9274677 --> 00:35:43,548.9264677
I think you might have mis searched on Pornhub.
484
00:35:43,768.9264677 --> 00:35:52,808.9274677
But I don't know what the ointment had to do with Well, I mean, you have to lubricate But also like the things Right, right.
485
00:35:53,28.9274677 --> 00:36:03,515.8619281
But yeah, that was definitely a thing, of them like writing their broomsticks, and then also like, you know, It said stuff about them either taking, like, psychedelics, and so them, like, you know, flying, is obviously...
486
00:36:05,15.8619281 --> 00:36:06,265.8619281
I like that one better.
487
00:36:08,95.8619281 --> 00:36:10,515.8609281
I like that alternative much more, actually.
488
00:36:10,515.8619281 --> 00:36:14,235.8619281
Especially because the broomsticks back then...
489
00:36:14,485.8619281 --> 00:36:17,915.8619281
Right? Like, when they were just sticks put together? Yeah, no.
490
00:36:17,915.8619281 --> 00:36:19,5.8619281
That can't be right.
491
00:36:19,155.8619281 --> 00:36:19,705.8619281
No.
492
00:36:19,885.8619281 --> 00:36:22,865.8619281
That sounds, like, just terrible.
493
00:36:23,275.8619281 --> 00:36:23,865.8619281
There's no way.
494
00:36:23,955.8619281 --> 00:36:24,535.8619281
Be for real.
495
00:36:25,125.8619281 --> 00:36:25,925.8619281
Um...
496
00:36:27,330.8619281 --> 00:36:38,580.8619281
Anyways, the other thing that superstitions from ancient Egypt, well you know they really care about their triangles and they're really sacred, so like walking underneath a ladder um, was like It's the strongest shape found in nature.
497
00:36:38,670.8619281 --> 00:36:39,570.8619281
Yeah.
498
00:36:41,490.8619281 --> 00:36:53,910.8619281
What about a hexapolioid? Gabbagoo! Because it's you, your partner, and God.
499
00:36:54,685.8619281 --> 00:37:00,715.8619281
Oh, when you get married, that's the strongest relationship found in nature.
500
00:37:00,715.9619281 --> 00:37:03,25.8619281
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
501
00:37:03,435.8609281 --> 00:37:08,875.8619281
Um, anyway, so walking over a ladder or whatever, like breaking the triangle is like a huge thing.
502
00:37:09,85.8619281 --> 00:37:11,955.8609281
And then because of this, somehow these superstitions...
503
00:37:12,655.8629281 --> 00:37:35,210.8619281
Oh, because it's a triangle! That came from, all the way from Egypt? I think the idea of just breaking triangles in general and then they said to like, that's how we got like walking under a ladder tends to be fairly uh That's so interesting Yeah, and then it also says that around Halloween we especially try to like avoid breaking mirrors, stepping on cracks, um, and spilling salt.
504
00:37:35,510.8609281 --> 00:37:47,885.8619281
So our superstition comes out but the superstitions do date back to like the Celtic times Step on a crack! Break your mama's back Your kid will be black! I'm sorry.
505
00:37:48,625.8619281 --> 00:37:50,535.8619281
You did grow up in the sticks.
506
00:37:51,305.8619281 --> 00:37:53,85.8619281
Uh, in the broomsticks.
507
00:37:53,135.8609281 --> 00:37:53,745.8619281
In the broom...
508
00:37:53,945.8619281 --> 00:37:54,725.8619281
That we rode.
509
00:37:56,955.8619281 --> 00:37:57,445.8619281
Multipurposed.
510
00:37:57,475.8619281 --> 00:37:58,955.8619281
They don't have dildos in the sticks.
511
00:38:01,385.8619281 --> 00:38:04,125.8609281
Um, alright.
512
00:38:05,825.8619281 --> 00:38:10,725.8619281
So I think the broomsticks lead us right into ritual matchmaking.
513
00:38:12,315.8619281 --> 00:38:17,935.8619281
And so basically, um, Right, you can graduate from your broom to a real person.
514
00:38:20,5.8619281 --> 00:38:21,165.8609281
I'm a real boy now.
515
00:38:23,375.8609281 --> 00:38:29,625.8619281
Um, what? I don't know, it just made me think, what were the guys doing? Over there were the turnips.
516
00:38:30,415.8619281 --> 00:38:31,25.8619281
They're carving.
517
00:38:34,765.8619281 --> 00:38:36,275.8619281
See if they can make it into her face.
518
00:38:36,545.8619281 --> 00:38:37,275.8619281
If you can.
519
00:38:37,705.8619281 --> 00:38:38,835.8619281
That's how you know you'll marry her.
520
00:38:38,885.8619281 --> 00:38:40,895.8619281
Oh no, Isis.
521
00:38:42,365.8619281 --> 00:38:42,925.8619281
Bad taste.
522
00:38:45,625.8619281 --> 00:38:57,760.8619281
So basically, um, there's a bunch of them and the idea in theory was like, either you would, Figure it out, like, from one way, or it would come into fruition the next year.
523
00:38:57,960.8619281 --> 00:39:11,780.8619281
And so, many common ways were, So there's two related to the apple and the bobbler, so, One of them was that you would write the names of your, like, wanted to be, um, suitors.
524
00:39:12,150.8619281 --> 00:39:20,270.8619281
And then whichever one you caught bobbing was the one that would be it, right? The other one relating to apples, that's one of the alternatives.
525
00:39:20,280.8619281 --> 00:39:23,300.8619281
You would write who you wanted, and then On all the apples.
526
00:39:23,625.8619281 --> 00:39:25,355.8619281
Like any possible suitors.
527
00:39:25,855.8619281 --> 00:39:27,725.8619281
Oh, multiple suitors.
528
00:39:27,735.8619281 --> 00:39:27,895.8619281
Yes.
529
00:39:27,895.8619281 --> 00:39:28,705.8619281
That you want.
530
00:39:29,595.8619281 --> 00:39:30,575.8619281
Or our options.
531
00:39:31,515.8619281 --> 00:39:33,705.8619281
You put all your options and then whichever one.
532
00:39:34,205.8619281 --> 00:39:34,505.8619281
Okay.
533
00:39:34,835.8619281 --> 00:39:35,865.8619281
So that was one way.
534
00:39:36,205.8619281 --> 00:39:43,855.8619281
Um, the other one relating to apples was that women tossed apple peels over their shoulders hoping the peels would fall on the floor in the shape of their future husband's initials.
535
00:39:44,235.8619281 --> 00:39:53,726.2474156
Um, this also came with That can't be good if you like A Tom, right? Right.
536
00:39:53,996.2474156 --> 00:39:58,946.2474156
Or like a, or a Quincy or a Zachary maybe.
537
00:39:59,666.2474156 --> 00:40:02,96.2474156
'cause it's like, it's like AW but yeah, Quincy there.
538
00:40:02,96.2474156 --> 00:40:03,806.2474156
There's gotta be some unfortunate names.
539
00:40:05,126.2474156 --> 00:40:10,106.2474156
How do you Yeah, or like Matt Frank can't be good.
540
00:40:10,166.2474156 --> 00:40:14,246.2474156
Frank's probably impossible, but everyone is named John, so that probably worked right.
541
00:40:14,246.2474156 --> 00:40:16,136.2474156
And all Apple, you know, curb so.
542
00:40:16,530.3560268 --> 00:40:18,510.3560268
This one is kind of weird.
543
00:40:18,510.3560268 --> 00:40:33,70.3560268
So basically, they tried to learn about the features by peering at egg yolks floating in a bowl of water and stood in front of a mirror in a darkened room holding candles and looking over their shoulders for their husband's faces.
544
00:40:34,580.3560268 --> 00:40:34,680.3560268
Okay.
545
00:40:34,680.3560268 --> 00:40:36,760.3560268
I don't know the logistics of that one.
546
00:40:37,390.3560268 --> 00:40:37,930.3560268
I think we should try it.
547
00:40:38,820.3560268 --> 00:40:40,80.3560268
I think that we should bring that one back.
548
00:40:40,550.3560268 --> 00:40:42,50.3560268
It looks like...
549
00:40:44,120.3560268 --> 00:40:44,590.3560268
A chicken.
550
00:40:45,130.3560268 --> 00:40:46,590.3560268
Uh, I was gonna say Danny DeVito.
551
00:40:49,100.3560268 --> 00:40:55,70.3560268
Um, Can you think of a guy that looks like an egg yolk? There was also this huge part about, like, chestnuts.
552
00:40:55,80.3560268 --> 00:40:59,20.3560268
So, at some point, I think it was in the 18 or 1900s, nuts were huge.
553
00:40:59,20.3560268 --> 00:41:00,540.3550268
His jawline's pretty rough.
554
00:41:02,540.3560268 --> 00:41:03,400.3560268
He's got a weak jawline.
555
00:41:04,280.3560268 --> 00:41:22,170.3560268
Um, but nuts were like a big part of this and I actually enjoyed that because like I told you about like in our union No, well in like Armenian culture Like there's a whole thing about the fall and nuts and spending a whole period of time busting nuts so for October to be a designated or like the 31st to be a It'd bust a nut.
556
00:41:22,170.3560268 --> 00:41:22,600.3560268
Day.
557
00:41:22,750.3560268 --> 00:41:26,880.3560268
Yeah! You would know exactly when it's happening, which I think is kind of cool.
558
00:41:27,140.3560268 --> 00:41:36,320.3565268
Um, but basically they would like write like initials or something on the nuts and throw them into the fire and if it turned to ash or if it didn't like it had some kind of symbolism.
559
00:41:36,590.3565268 --> 00:41:51,930.3560268
Another one here is, and this is also known as like a charm cake now more so, but there was in the 1800s, a matchmaking cook would bury her ring into a, into mashed potatoes on Halloween night, hoping to bring love to whoever found it.
560
00:41:53,305.3560268 --> 00:41:55,565.3560268
Wait, what? Cake.
561
00:41:55,705.3560268 --> 00:41:57,775.3560268
She, no, no, mashed potatoes.
562
00:41:57,855.3560268 --> 00:42:00,605.3560268
Take off her ring, plop it in the mashed potatoes.
563
00:42:01,655.3560268 --> 00:42:04,335.3550268
And hope whoever found it would find love.
564
00:42:04,675.3550268 --> 00:42:08,255.3560268
And I think that's kind of a cute way to sacrifice your jewelry.
565
00:42:08,735.3560268 --> 00:42:15,935.3560268
Um, I just, I just like don't chew, so I would've just She'd be like, where's my ring? All the potatoes are gone.
566
00:42:16,475.3560268 --> 00:42:18,275.3560268
And then the last one that I have here.
567
00:42:19,770.3560268 --> 00:42:20,530.3560268
We could.
568
00:42:20,830.3560268 --> 00:42:29,860.3560268
The last one I have is that, um, young woman ate sugary concoction made out of walnuts, hazelnuts, and nutmeg before bed on Halloween night, and she would dream about her future husband.
569
00:42:30,660.3560268 --> 00:42:34,490.3550268
Which we actually have something like that in Armenian culture.
570
00:42:34,490.3560268 --> 00:42:36,720.3560268
There's um, I forgot what day it lands on.
571
00:42:36,750.3550268 --> 00:42:41,350.3560268
It might be Valentine's Day, but you eat a salty cookie, and you can't drink.
572
00:42:41,810.3560268 --> 00:43:01,730.3550268
Any water you have to eat it before bed, and you can't have any water something like that Armenians out there correct me if I'm wrong and you're supposed to drew in the person in your dreams who brings you a glass of Water is supposed to be your like suitor or like love So everyone is eating a salty cookie before bed, that's so funny.
573
00:43:02,170.3550268 --> 00:43:05,140.3560268
I think it's a really sweet kind of Bananas.
574
00:43:05,230.3560268 --> 00:43:10,720.3560268
Oh, I'm kind of scared To eat a salty cookie before bed and see if anyone shows up.
575
00:43:10,740.3560268 --> 00:43:13,110.3560268
Yeah, imagine if somebody did though.
576
00:43:13,240.3560268 --> 00:43:19,150.3550268
What if it was like, your dad? He'd be a spinster, alone forever.
577
00:43:19,670.3550268 --> 00:43:24,670.3550268
Um, but yeah, I think it's a cute thing.
578
00:43:24,910.3550268 --> 00:43:25,860.3550268
Yeah, no, that's fun.
579
00:43:25,910.3550268 --> 00:43:26,610.3560268
I want to do that.
580
00:43:28,395.3560268 --> 00:43:29,305.3560268
That one we're bringing back.
581
00:43:29,385.3560268 --> 00:43:33,925.3560268
Oh, and that goes back into the charm cakes, what they also do in New Orleans for Mardi Gras.
582
00:43:34,25.3560268 --> 00:43:35,135.3560268
They put the baby Jesus.
583
00:43:35,135.3560268 --> 00:43:35,845.3560268
Yeah, the baby Jesus.
584
00:43:36,125.3550268 --> 00:43:39,215.3550268
Um, charm cakes, usually whoever finds it, they do it on Easter too.
585
00:43:39,385.3560268 --> 00:43:40,435.3560268
It's like a very common.
586
00:43:40,435.3560268 --> 00:43:40,735.3560268
King's cake.
587
00:43:40,765.3560268 --> 00:43:41,475.3560268
King's cake.
588
00:43:41,665.3550268 --> 00:43:44,15.3555268
And it's also done on Easter, and it's done all the time.
589
00:43:44,15.3555268 --> 00:43:45,915.3550268
So the charm and the food is like quite.
590
00:43:45,915.3560268 --> 00:43:46,325.3550268
Big thing.
591
00:43:46,415.3560268 --> 00:43:47,515.3560268
Yeah, and I forget why.
592
00:43:47,525.3560268 --> 00:43:48,305.3560268
I know Armenians do it.
593
00:43:48,305.3560268 --> 00:43:49,795.3560268
Oh, we do it on Easter too, I think.
594
00:43:49,795.3560268 --> 00:43:51,285.3560268
Yeah, it's in the tall cake.
595
00:43:51,285.3560268 --> 00:43:54,265.3560268
So, it's a huge thing to put things and food that you're gonna swallow.
596
00:43:54,755.3560268 --> 00:43:56,305.3560268
But we can't have like Kinder eggs.
597
00:43:57,435.3560268 --> 00:44:04,515.3560268
Cause those are choking hazards, but the religions, the religious people get to just personal belongings.
598
00:44:04,965.3560268 --> 00:44:36,105.3570268
Um, and so the last thing I have is soul cakes and these ones, do you want to talk about what you learned about soul cakes? So I read that, so back to like trick or treating, it was like the poor would go around, um, And the rich people would give them soul cakes, so, in the, like, in exchange for them praying for their deceased loved ones.
599
00:44:36,625.3570268 --> 00:44:38,495.3570268
Yeah, it's really sad.
600
00:44:39,35.3570268 --> 00:44:39,795.3570268
Um.
601
00:44:40,245.3570268 --> 00:44:49,903.800769
Why? Well, because it started with Irish and Scottish immigrants in the US, um, in the 1900s.
602
00:44:50,293.800769 --> 00:44:53,963.800769
And, basically, they're called soulers.
603
00:44:57,183.800769 --> 00:45:07,903.800769
The people that do it? That would like go around and, um, usually children and people without any means when door to door offering songs and prayers in exchange for these small shortbread cakes.
604
00:45:08,443.800769 --> 00:45:11,193.800769
And that just makes me feel sad.
605
00:45:11,223.800769 --> 00:45:11,613.800769
Yeah.
606
00:45:11,623.800769 --> 00:45:17,783.800769
So now what I do think we should do and how we should bring this back is that we should on days like Halloween go give to the public.
607
00:45:17,783.800769 --> 00:45:19,263.800769
We only do it on like Thanksgiving and Christmas.
608
00:45:19,263.800769 --> 00:45:26,438.800769
Like it's kind of ridiculous, but like especially when like, like I just like we just stated like One fourth of all candy is bought this for Halloween.
609
00:45:26,438.800769 --> 00:45:30,638.800769
It's like, like there's obviously the means and it's like when it's getting cold and sad.
610
00:45:30,798.800769 --> 00:45:41,388.799769
So I think like if, you know, society was to adopt something, it should be bringing back thinking of the less fortunate on a day like this because this is such a terrible holiday if you are less fortunate.
611
00:45:41,738.800769 --> 00:45:42,678.799769
Yeah, well exactly.
612
00:45:42,698.799769 --> 00:46:11,878.800269
It literally has just become just gluttonous and debauchery that's, like, meaningless and, like, it's really sad and, obviously people are gonna have their opinions about, what religious meaning it should have, but with more meaningful holidays usually more, like, self reflection happens, you know? And then you think of the less fortunate, and yeah, which, yeah, with this holiday losing all of its meaning also goes, us trying to be better people.
613
00:46:13,428.800269 --> 00:46:18,548.800269
Yeah, and the other thing that kind of brings it states on is like, yeah, one soul can't give in, one soul saved.
614
00:46:18,928.800269 --> 00:46:24,998.799269
Which is like, again, like, that shouldn't, it's just so, because like, back then people really did starve.
615
00:46:24,998.800269 --> 00:46:29,223.700269
Like, in the United States, very, no one really, like, starving is not an actual fear.
616
00:46:29,593.800269 --> 00:46:30,363.800269
That is real.
617
00:46:30,363.800269 --> 00:46:41,33.800269
Now, whether you have what you want to eat or whatever, whatever is a different thing, but like starvation is not like a fear, but like, you know, they're like, there's these immigrants that would come came from starving and are still starving.
618
00:46:41,263.800269 --> 00:46:44,203.800269
And it's like, let's just give them a shortbread cookie.
619
00:46:44,463.800269 --> 00:46:50,813.800269
And I don't know, it just like made me really sad and also made me think because they would go around like praying or singing like songs.
620
00:46:51,13.800269 --> 00:46:55,803.800269
Like, is that what Christmas carolers are too? Is that the same thing? I don't know.
621
00:46:55,813.800269 --> 00:46:57,863.799269
Because if they are, that makes me also depressed.
622
00:46:57,863.799269 --> 00:46:57,923.700269
I don't know.
623
00:46:58,493.800269 --> 00:47:22,778.798769
Yeah, I mean, probably, I feel like now they seem like just, church people, yeah, that are happy and go lucky, but probably, I maybe like for money, like for the church, you know, right, just for like donations, right, which I think is like common, like as what it is now, which are, and also a \lot of churches then would like, feed people, yeah, so, the other thing that I have on here about the soul cakes.
624
00:47:23,138.798769 --> 00:47:41,613.860269
they would there is referred to going soul link and Children like I don't know obviously they would like sing songs and stuff too, but there's something Sweet about the fact that they would just give them something In exchange for them, praying for, a deceased loved one.
625
00:47:41,683.860269 --> 00:47:44,473.860269
Yeah, no, that is very, again, we can bring it back.
626
00:47:45,233.860269 --> 00:47:47,943.860269
Like, that form of currency is kind of swag.
627
00:47:48,353.859269 --> 00:47:50,263.859269
Yeah, no, definitely.
628
00:47:50,593.860269 --> 00:47:56,273.859269
Paying for prayer? Yeah, I mean, I don't know, talking about prayer as a form of currency sounds not good, but.
629
00:47:56,823.859269 --> 00:47:59,163.959269
I mean, I think the sentiment is beautiful.
630
00:47:59,164.059269 --> 00:47:59,193.959269
Yeah, yeah.
631
00:47:59,633.959269 --> 00:48:19,773.959269
And then, um, So, we already talked about how, like, people believe that ghosts came back to the earthly world, so, basically people were scared that if the ghost recognized them, they would like, follow them and stuff, so basically to be, to avoid being recognized by ghosts, people would wear masks when they left their homes after dark so the ghost would mistake them for fellow spirits.
632
00:48:19,973.959269 --> 00:48:22,463.959269
Dude, I've never understood that.
633
00:48:22,803.959269 --> 00:48:24,843.959269
I mean, I like, kinda, but like, who? No.
634
00:48:24,863.959269 --> 00:48:37,748.959269
I don't, what? Cause it doesn't like, then you're like, The spirit? Like, don't you think the spirit knows beyond your fleshly meat sack? And like, but anyways, and then the last thing I really have is vampires.
635
00:48:37,758.959269 --> 00:48:48,508.958269
Cause I also got, kind of got into the, like, where do some of like this, like, why do we, like, what are even vampires? Like, why did we come up with that? And basically it was a really good explanation for how disease spread.
636
00:48:49,818.958269 --> 00:48:51,958.959269
Is what people commonly believed, somehow.
637
00:48:52,558.959269 --> 00:48:56,103.959269
Cause like, Sakuna, what? I don't know.
638
00:48:56,103.959269 --> 00:49:01,793.959269
I mean, it kind of, I believe blood transferred things, so like, maybe vampires spread.
639
00:49:01,794.059269 --> 00:49:05,183.959269
But I don't know how they would think vampires spread, like, and not mice.
640
00:49:05,943.959269 --> 00:49:06,403.959269
And not mice.
641
00:49:07,143.958269 --> 00:49:09,553.959269
They're like, oh, the vampires are spreading the disease.
642
00:49:10,273.959269 --> 00:49:11,423.959269
Not the mice.
643
00:49:11,803.958269 --> 00:49:15,273.959269
So I'm not really sure, but you know, That's fun.
644
00:49:15,613.959269 --> 00:49:21,263.959269
I'm sure in like 200 years they're going to look back at us and be like, I can't believe, I don't know what.
645
00:49:21,403.959269 --> 00:49:21,713.959269
But.
646
00:49:21,913.959269 --> 00:49:22,753.959269
Yeah, definitely.
647
00:49:22,783.959269 --> 00:49:23,253.959269
Yeah.
648
00:49:24,148.959269 --> 00:49:29,608.958269
Alright, What was the most interesting thing you learned? Mmm.
649
00:49:30,268.958269 --> 00:49:40,858.959269
Hmm, hmm, hmm, Well, I've just never really sat down and thought about the complete abstraction.
650
00:49:41,208.959269 --> 00:49:42,338.959269
Of the holiday.
651
00:49:43,238.959269 --> 00:49:46,348.959269
And like how it's just completely meaningless now.
652
00:49:47,408.959269 --> 00:49:49,428.959269
Like, there's still pockets of...
653
00:49:49,928.959269 --> 00:49:53,258.959269
Meaning, but It's not taught to us as something of...
654
00:49:53,988.959269 --> 00:49:54,448.959269
Value.
655
00:49:54,528.958269 --> 00:49:55,368.958269
Yeah.
656
00:49:56,658.959269 --> 00:49:57,438.959269
So...
657
00:49:59,258.959269 --> 00:50:00,558.959269
That's kind of depressing.
658
00:50:01,88.959269 --> 00:50:01,558.959269
I don't know.
659
00:50:02,58.959269 --> 00:50:03,368.959269
I don't know.
660
00:50:03,378.959269 --> 00:50:06,658.959269
But, you know, like most holidays, it's very...
661
00:50:07,753.959269 --> 00:50:08,593.959269
Personal.
662
00:50:09,53.959269 --> 00:50:09,353.959269
Right.
663
00:50:09,353.959269 --> 00:50:10,293.859269
On how you want to.
664
00:50:12,263.959269 --> 00:50:13,483.959269
Celebrate it, so.
665
00:50:13,643.959269 --> 00:50:23,23.958269
Yeah, I was gonna say, for me, I think the most interesting thing is like, I don't know, it's just really interesting to think about like, how drastically things change over like one lifetime.
666
00:50:23,573.958269 --> 00:50:30,623.959269
And how like crazy that is, like, to think like in the 20s, like a hundred years ago, they were like, we can't be.
667
00:50:30,968.959269 --> 00:50:32,828.959269
This is just too much ruckus.
668
00:50:33,78.959269 --> 00:50:42,498.959269
And then, like, also to be thinking about, like, how, like, like, what is it like to be in the Roman times? And, like, you know, like, to really feel the beliefs and feel the thoughts and be like, this is real.
669
00:50:42,698.959269 --> 00:50:47,728.959269
And, like, also, like, to have, like, a pope just wakes up one day and is like, we're changing the date of the holiday.
670
00:50:49,108.958269 --> 00:50:54,203.959269
And people are like, yeah! Could you imagine having Halloween in, like, May? No.
671
00:50:54,983.959269 --> 00:50:55,143.959269
Right.
672
00:50:55,153.959269 --> 00:50:56,523.959269
Well, didn't he? Yeah.
673
00:50:56,573.959269 --> 00:50:58,833.959269
What the? Well, granted, they weren't celebrating, like, harvest.
674
00:50:58,843.959269 --> 00:50:59,413.959269
They were just celebrating saints.
675
00:50:59,413.959269 --> 00:51:01,503.959269
But, like, yeah.
676
00:51:01,673.959269 --> 00:51:03,333.959269
That would be upsetting.
677
00:51:03,443.959269 --> 00:51:03,993.959269
Exactly.
678
00:51:04,53.959269 --> 00:51:04,523.959269
So, I don't know.
679
00:51:04,523.959269 --> 00:51:05,213.958269
That's what I learned.
680
00:51:05,223.959269 --> 00:51:07,413.958269
But, overall, I'm excited for this Halloween.
681
00:51:07,723.959269 --> 00:51:09,473.958269
But anyways, thanks for tuning in.
682
00:51:09,503.960269 --> 00:51:12,523.959269
This has been Crysis with Kira and Isis.
683
00:51:12,523.959269 --> 00:51:13,393.959269
Happy Halloween.
684
00:51:13,393.959269 --> 00:51:13,883.959269
We love you.
685
00:51:13,883.959269 --> 00:51:15,613.959269
Happy Halloween.