FBI threatens Congressional Staffer for Investigating Pipe Bomber Case! | Ep 684 - The Kyle Seraphin Show

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Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistle blower, an
American patriot. Prepare to embrace the
uncomfortable truth because thisprogram has no time for
comforting lies. Here is civil liberties
enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI
agent Kyle Seraphin. Hello my friends, welcome to the

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Kyle Irvin show, today's Tuesday, November the 25th and
thanks for being along. I saw we had kind of a crowd
gathering over on YouTube. We've got our Rumble audience
live as usual and I'm grateful for all of you.
It's Thanksgiving week and I'm thankful that you show up and
listen to what we have to say here.
I've shared this before and I'm going to share it again.
One of the things that this podcast offers me the

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opportunity to do is take, let'scall it a bow and arrow because
I don't think it's as powerful as a firearm.
But I get to take my little bow and that hand whittled arrow
that we put together. I get to draw it back on a
pretty decent little drawstring.Let's call it like a 60 LB
recurve draw. And I get to send that arrow
directly into the heart of the FBI's 7th floor management

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because whether they know it or not, we know what they're doing.
Some of us do and a few of us don't work for a major news
publication. We're completely independent.
Like, I am right here and I can say whatever the hell I want and
I'm going to say whatever the hell I want.
And I'm going to share names of people who are involved in
shenanigans, shall we say, to doit in a nice way.

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It's nice to see some folks talking about it on more of the
mainstream outlets, even if they're even more fringe than
the the the traditional legacy media.
It's starting to come out there.We're going to get a little bit
further into that. This pipe bomb story is not
going to go away. Unfortunately.
One of my buddies told me that when, when FBI Director Patel

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was was confirmed that that was going to be the end of my FBI
commentary. And that would have been great.
I would have loved it if I had no more FBI commentary.
We could just talk about what's going on with Mark Kelly.
We could talk about some some fun games where people who were
involved in deep, deep state auctions were were prosecuted.
And we could do some reading of the indictments and talk about
how strong they were and what a great job that they were doing

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and how everybody was going to get held accountable and that
they would be justice for all. And that's not what happened,
not even close to what happened.We're going to say some names.
I'm going to give you some tunedattention span for future
interviews and I'm going to tellyou that what's what's kind of
nice to see is that people who are actually closer to a

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position of authority than I'm in are starting to pick up on
this. They're starting to see it.
They're reading with the critical eye.
They're listening with the same ear that I've been kind of
tuning this audience to so that when people say specific things
that we can learn that they are in fact saying what they mean.
Getting briefed is not the same as reading a file, having

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someone tell you what's going onwhen that person is of
questionable credulity and not necessarily someone who has your
best interest at at heart. That shouldn't matter to you.
You should care. You should look a little
further. You should be the skeptic that
we always advise here. So we're going to have a lot of
fun with that today because lastnight Catherine Herridge put out

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a a sit down interview with CashPatel, which is the second sit
down interview he's done, which is trying to cover and spin and
take ownership of two major catastrophic lying situations
the FBI has been involved in in the last, let's call it a year
or so. One of them was the almost
assassination of Donald Trump and the reveal that apparently

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the guy who was a 20 year old kid, he completely acted alone.
He self radicalized by himself on the Internet with no
additional help. And then he concocted a plan and
climbed up and evaded Secret Service.
And I always told you there's a small possibility that the myth
of competency says that we thought if anybody went up
against the Secret Service that they would immediately be killed

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and they would never get close. But the real possibility also
exists that so many overlapping failures would have to be the
worst tolerant stacking situation ever or something else
was at play. And what we are being told right
now, again, reaffirmed, is that Donald Trump is totally
satisfied the FBI did all the things right.

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And so for all of the talking ofthe guys who went in there prior
to being in this Bureau, they were wrong before.
I haven't heard him say it, but did any of these guys ever come
out and say, hey, by the way, all of my criticisms of the
previous FBI were BS because these are just great, hard
working Americans. They're they're awesome.
And they always did everything right.
That's essentially what they're saying.
So we've got a sit down interview that we're going to

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play some pieces from and I'm going to clip it up so that you
don't have to sit through 30 minutes.
I'm going to give you like 5 or 6 minutes of it.
And then another sit down with Thomas Massie.
You guys know I'm a fan of Massie.
He's also kind of long winded, as is my friend Steve Baker,
which is great if you want to sit down for 90 minutes and
listen to a very long winded explanation.
I pulled out a couple of what isthey?
What do they like to call them? Lawrence gave up a big nugget.

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I, I pulled out a couple of big Nuggets for you.
And we're going to actually sortof uncover those Nuggets, Polish
them up into a diamond so you can actually understand very
crystal clear what's going on. That's where we're going today.
I hope you stick around for it because we're going to have a
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I must say that not everybody isgrateful or thankful on this
morning and one of the people who seems the least grateful is
this guy on the screen that is adour looking picture of Senator
Mark Kelly in the ongoing saga of make sure you resist an
unlawful order. No idea what that unlawful order

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would be. And having foreign Intel or
former Intel members and former military service members go out
there and tape this sort of bizarre warning to the troops,
apparently because they're so inlove with people following the
Constitution. You get kind of an interesting
development. The Pentagon is now going to
investigate this man. It turns out if you're a former

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service member, especially if you're a former former officer,
you can be recalled to active duty and then court martialed if
you somehow have got yourself inhot water.
CBS News is reporting the Pentagon is conducting a review
of the misconduct allegations against Democratic Senator Mark
Kelly of Arizona. He's a former U.S.
Navy captain. For those of us that were in the
other part of the military wherecaptain is an E3 or sorry, an

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O3, that is not the case. A captain is the the equivalent
to a Colonel, if my memory serves, is a significantly high.
Was it like O 6? I think it's like Lieutenant
Commander, commander, then captain, something like that.
And in any case, the Navy has weird ranks.
And if you guys know anything about being on a Navy base as a
non Navy person, we don't know what your ranks are.
We don't understand what they mean.
They're completely mysterious tous who are in the Army, the

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Marine Corps, in the Air Force, I guess the Space Force now too,
even in the Coast Guard. Coast Guard has weird ranks too.
But I don't know what an eagle passed a star with a moon and a
bunch of lines means. And neither do you except the
Navy, which pretends to know. Also just a weird side side
here, Navy people. Why is it that when we ask what
your rank is, you always tell uswhat your job is too?

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And then we're supposed to like,suss it out?
You're like, oh, like, I'm a maintenance Petty Officer,
first, third, third class maintainer, wrench Turner
person. Is that an officer?
Go ahead. I just want to know if I'm
supposed to salute you or if I'msupposed to give you a high 5.
All right. Kelly was among one of the
groups of lawmakers which released a video last week
calling for service members and members of the intelligence
community to refuse illegal orders.

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This is actually going to dovetail nicely into what we're
talking about. They don't need to be told this.
They get training on this. You get specific specialized
training when you are in a branch of government.
Almost everybody gets a basic training.
And then when you are old enoughfor maybe you have enough
education or enough job experience where you can go and

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work in one of these Intel services.
Theoretically, you're actually supposed to know what an
unlawful order would look like. Illegal, immoral, unethical,
unconstitutional, right. You're supposed to be able to
use discernment in theory. That's why people are paid what
they are paid in federal law enforcement.
It's a sense of discernment. They can look at things on its

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face and decide whether this is appropriate or not.
And then because you get paid really well every two weeks,
you're supposed to build up thatthat cushion, that financial
responsibility, which is one of the things they look for.
And when they give you a security clearance and you're
supposed to say no if there is an illegal, unlawful or immoral

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requirement being put on you. I was specifically trained that
way when I was at the FBI Academy.
It was very weird to me that youhave members of the service
coming out and saying it, and all these people had their
mouths absolutely silent. They said nothing when there was
a requirement for testing using an emergency youth authorization
device. This was the COVID-19 swabs, all

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of which were approved under EUA.
None of them could be compelled and yet all of us that were in
that scenario, we had to decide whether or not we were going to
lose our job over something thatthey couldn't legally ask us to
do, and yet they did it anyway. It seems really problematic.
So all these people have lost all credibility with me and so I
have no sympathy if they decide to call him back to active duty.

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I think there is one real interesting question.
If you are on active duty, I do not understand how you can be a
partisan office holder. And so I don't know if that
would actually kick him out of the Senate.
That's an interesting thing to explore.
On Monday, there was a social media post.
The Pentagon said it received serious allegations of
misconduct against him and that a thorough review of these
allegations had been initiated to determine further actions,

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which could include a recall to active duty for court martial
proceedings or administrative measures.
And the reason that they are actually citing is that
everybody would look at this person as a former officer who's
resting on the credentials of being a former officer and say
you basically cited your credentials, you appealed to

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authority, and that authority was your previous commissioned
officer status. And if you're doing that, then
you are basically trying to throw on the jacket, throw on
the epaulettes, and you were trying to regain and speak as an
authoritative member, former officer in the military.
We'll see how that goes. I think it's kind of interesting

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the the Trump administration hastried a couple of these novel
approaches and so far they've kind of been getting the goose
egg. We also found out yesterday, and
I didn't go and pull a specific story for it because I just
don't think it's that exciting. It was one of the lead stories
is that Jim Comedy's prosecutionwas thrown out by a judge, as
was Letitia James. And the claim was, is that the

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United States Attorney who was appointed as an interim or an
acting. And it's kind of like that's the
question whether or not you can have back-to-back acting
appointments of an attorney of aUnited States Attorney, whether
that was brought properly or not.
And so I told you guys, Jim Comedy was going to get good
lawyers. And I told you that it probably
wasn't going to go anywhere. They brought some weakness to

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it. So his perjury case has
currently been thrown out. It is now being appealed above
the the District Judge to see whether or not this was a
procedural issue that should in fact result in the indictment
being tossed. And just so you know, they've
got six more months to bring it.The the criminal statute, Title
18 allows them at least 60 days if there's a certain condition

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met or six months if another. They also can wait until another
grand jury is impaneled. If that's not something that
will be scheduled. There's some small districts
where that's an issue, probably not an issue in EDVA, Eastern
District of Virginia. So they're going to rebring this
case at some point. It's going to get drawn out
forever. Maybe the process is the
punishment. Maybe that's the goal.
But what we are going to see is Jim comedy is currently off the

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hook. And as some of you are
accurately pointing out in our chat this morning, Mike Davis,
the guy who runs the Article 3 project, who said lawyer up MFR,
is once again sort of an empty barrel, right?
The empty barrel makes the most noise.
They're over there beating on this, this barrel, which

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resonates really good and it sounds really exciting.
How many strikeouts have we seenin the deep state prosecutions?
Right now? They're basically one for three,
and they've only brought 3. James will probably have to deal
with her problems soon enough. Comedy may never have to deal
with it. There's some issues with the
grand jury material, and it sounds like that may actually

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get destroyed. And so he's going to get away.
I think Chris Ray is also going to have no problems.
And so we're going to be left with prosecuting John Bolton's
mustache. Interestingly enough, the
lawsuit that was filed against me, for those of you who are
curious, was filed on a episode of our podcast, which was

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entitled The desperate FBI director digs deep into John
Bolton's mustache because it wasright then when they went for
that first Hail Mary. We have to indict someone.
We got to do something. We've struck out on all the
things that we said that we would be a successful on.
So let's go after John Bolton's mustache for classified

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documents. That's that's the only thing
that they can currently hang their hat on.
And I just think it's funny because even the name of that of
that episode is sort of that sarcastic nature by which I
often see these stories. It's hard for me to get excited
and get behind any team that doesn't actually post wins.

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I'm not a sports ball guy anymore, but I know that if I
was cheering on a team that basically lost all the time, I'm
thinking of of the Indians from the show Major League.
If that was where, if that was my team, the Indians from Major
League, they just lost and lost and lost.
And like whenever somebody got an opportunity to do something,
they would lose. It would be demoralizing.
That's kind of why people are feeling bad right now.

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I've spoken to many friends and listeners to the show.
I've talked to just complete random strangers.
And I keep getting the sense that more people are in a state
of unease about the current status of our nation right now
than I've ever seen. And that doesn't mean that we're
walking outside and like, there's chaos or violence in the

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streets or that there's danger. But there's this sense that
everything is not all right, that we've been lied to, that
we've been swindled, that we have been for a long time.
More and more people are aware of it and they're just going,
how is it that we are in such a precarious position and yet
nobody in power seems to be acting as though this is it?

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Why do we feel like that? And I think the answer is, it's
because the status quo was undefeated.
And if you live in Washington, DC, there is no major change.
They're they're moving the needle a couple inches to one
side or the other. But it really doesn't change the
way that the teeter totter fallsdown.
If we if we believe in the the concept of a uniparty.

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And I'm going to put this out there as something for you guys
to to debate on your own as well.
If we actually believe that there is such a thing a
uniparty. I've heard Tom Massey say it.
I've heard other members of Trump's administration talk
about a quote UN quote uniparty.But then we try to act like it's
not like you're somehow going tovote your way out of it.
And I think more people are getting, I think they are
fatigued on the idea that you can sell me hope.

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When we look and realize that there's just there is no
meaningful substantive change. We have a speaker of the House
who came in under one specific particular plan of action.
We will give you single issue appropriations bills.
That seems like it would save all the problems.

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We wouldn't have all the bloat and the BS and all the pork and
all the other nonsense if we could just get a single vote,
yay or nay, on individual departments and policies inside
the federal government. We can't do it.
Why can't we do it? They don't give you an argument.
They just act like they never said that thing ever.
Like it was just like it just goes away.

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It blows my mind that we think that we're going to be able to
vote the way out of it. When you put the guys in who
talked the toughest for the mostnumber of years and the reaction
is identical to putting in the worst guy.
I don't know the difference between having a Pam Bondi or
having a Merrick Garland at thispoint.
I don't know the difference between having a, a Cash Patel,

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who for years said that they were going to solve the problem,
who accurately was stating what the problem was, and a Chris Ray
who just kept his mouth shut, wore a suit and looked like a
grown up. And he lied like, you know, like
a lawyer doesn't mean that we should give up.
It just means that I don't thinkthat this this problem is
solvable by Washington. And here's the real the real
issue that I see at the at the at the mere core of it.

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And this may be something to forus to reflect on another time.
Maybe I can get Steve Friend to bash her around with me.
Republicans act like the solution to a government problem
is government, and Democrats actlike the solution to any problem
is government. And so if both parties have
determined that the solution to the problems that we have either

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in government or out of government in society is
government, then there is no conservative option that is
currently being fielded. Nobody seems to put on the
table, what if we just broke that or turned it all off.
You guys have watched some of the tech issues that we've
experienced on this program. Over years now, some of them are

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really straight, some of them are my fault.
I'm sure of it. Like I'm I'm human and these
machines are being operated the way they're supposed to, except
when they're not. And what's the solution that we
always start with? Disconnect everything and
reconnect it. This country so desperately
needs a hard reset and it needs to go back a long ways.

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But instead, and I've used this analogy before, we we have
people that keep getting into office and they act exactly like
the person before them did, which is that they are the
button pushers every whatever itis 109 minutes, whatever that
thing was in the in the show lost where the Dharma Initiative
said, if you don't push the button, the world ends.
And so they just keep passing the budget and they keep and

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making sure that we are funding the most illogical and silly
named government agencies with all of our money.
And then the Trump administration comes out and
does the same thing. They just go, hey, what would be
the best solution? What if we gave you $2000?
What if it gave you tariff revenues as a rebate for being
so cool and voting for us? And by the way, if you're a an

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unwed mother, you're going to get a Trump savings account for
your baby. We're going to take money from
everybody that's had a baby that's not you.
And then we're going to put it into an account in the most
illogical way possible. And so now we're going to create
a new Social Security net for zero to 18 year olds, but only
for three years. What if we gave you money

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inefficiently? Would that make you be
interested? And people go like, maybe.
Yeah, sure. OK, that's what I want.
How many people are just buying that?
They're like, oh, well, as long as the government's giving me
money without a single thought as to where does it come from?
And we played you some some stuff yesterday, which is very
clear. They know it's going to be
inflationary. They're just hoping that you're

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too dumb to know. And so do we have a fearless
media that's out there that's keeping track of this and
pushing back? Do we?
We do not. This story really got my goat
yesterday and I want to share itwith you.
It's in The New York Times, which is something many of you
do not read, but I found that myfather-in-law is well versed on
the the discrepancies in the andthe foibles of the FBI director

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because it is being covered by the New York Times.
And so there are people who don't agree with me that do read
this. And I wonder what they take from
this story. And I wonder what you take as
well. New York Times, Two men, one
identity, both paid the price. This would be a moral
equivalency, I think. Let's get into the story,

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because it's really it's really galling once you get there.
Thousands of undocumented workers rely on fraudulent
Social Security numbers. One of them belong to Dan
Clover. I'm going to say that one more
time. Thousands of undocumented
workers, AKA illegal aliens, rely on fraudulent Social

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Security numbers, AKA identity theft.
So people who came here illegally must in fact commit
crimes with real victims. One of those those victims is
Dan Kluber. Is that the point of this
particular article? No, it's not.
Dan Kluber saw police lights flashing in his rearview mirror

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last year and eased up his car onto the shoulder, thinking
there'd been some kind of mistake.
He'd spent 4 decades in rural Minnesota without ever getting
in trouble. He prided himself on a life
built around dependability and routine, working in the same
factory where his father once did and spending his weekends
coaching baseball and teaching Sunday school.
He'd never fired a gun, smoked acigarette, missed a payment or
been arrested. I don't know why never firing a

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gun is somehow something that isconsidered to be good.
I actually think that's probablya strike against Mr. Clover
here, but never smoked a cigarette, never missed a
payment, never been arrested. All right, so he's just a clean,
regular dude. License and registration said
the officer and Clover, 42, handed them over and waited for
the office to get back to his patrol car.

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He listened to the church bells that rang every hour, and he
watched the sun reflect on the grain silos in the town town of
Olivia, where he knew most of the 2400 residents, including
the police officer. Is everything all right?
Clover asked. It's strange, but looks like
your license has been suspended.You've got a driver's license
with some issues down in Missouri.
Uh oh, what? I've barely even been to

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Missouri. How's that possible?
The answer? The officer had no answers, but
he feared that he might knew what happened.
Over the years, there have been signs that Clover had noticed
that something wasn't right. Stray letters about wages earned
in unfamiliar towns and collection notices for debt that
wasn't his. By the way, folks, I've had this
exact same experience. Somebody worked under my Social
Security number at a pizza placein Arizona and at some other

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like tire shop in Utah. This is a real problem when you
come into the workforce and you realize that somebody is out
there running out your your credit and they're running out
fake debt under your name and it's not immediately obvious
what you do about this problem. Kluber tried to untangle this
mess several times by hiring a tax specialist and driving to
government offices across the state, only to run to the same

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bureaucratic dead ends. The problem was bigger than
unpaid taxes. Somebody impersonating him
moving through the world as Dan Kluber was building a life in
his name with a government issued ID.
How can that happen in this country?
It turns out it's actually not that hard.
His case was one version of a problem that's been spreading
across the country for years. And it turns out the New York

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Times is quite sympathetic to this.
The government estimates as manyas 1,000,000 undocumented aliens
are using fraudulent or stolen Social Security numbers.
Quote a survival tactic used to pass background checks and get
jobs. Well, you know you don't need a
survival tactic when you are actually doing things as you are
required to do them, which meansthat you came here legally.

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You don't have to steal from someone else, which is what
they're doing. You don't have to defraud
somebody else, which is what they're doing.
The numbers are skimmed from data breaches.
Oh, we talk about that on the show.
Sometimes that way. Sold in black markets for as
little as $150.00 are handed outin border towns by human
smugglers. Many numbers connect back to
U.S. citizens, dead people, Puerto Ricans whose numbers
easily circulate across the mainland.

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But thousands of others belong to people like Dan Kluver,
Americans whose names and identities are no longer theirs.
There he is. There's the man.
He's on the screen right there. He lives in rural Minnesota and
he has for decades. But his number is being used by
some illegal a hole. And the New York Times is very

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sympathetic to the person that had to steal, had to steal his
information. The police officer sent
Cleveland home with a warning. Sifted through the files, he
went to look for another clue. His Social Security card was
locked safely away with the birth certificate for their
three children. He'd never been robbed.
He'd never lost a wallet. But there was his number,
printed on AW2 form from a leather factory in a town he'd

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never visited. He traced 15 years of records
and found more tax documents listing unfamiliar jobs.
A cement plant in Kansas. A paper mill in Tennessee.
A construction company in Ohio. A cereal factory in Nebraska and
a dog food plant in Missouri, his wife said.
How do they think you're gettingaround to all these places?

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Wouldn't that make sense? Imagine if we had a functional
governmental system that would actually be able to go and look
and say, you know, it's completely illogical that a man
would be working jobs in all these different places in one
year. The police officer.
Yeah. So they've lost control.
I've lost control and they don'tknow who I am.
Some years ago, the other Dan Clover had earned more than his

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own salary as a local sugar beetfactory, which pushed the total
income under Social Security into a higher tax bracket.
So he started having debt because he was paying taxes on
what he'd actually what he actually earned and the other
guy was not. Twice he contacted law
enforcement, filed an identity theft report with the federal
government where it landed in a pile of 10s of thousands of
similar reports each year. And he waited for relief as the
IRS docked his annual tax returns and garnished a few of

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his paychecks, costing him thousands of dollars.
This is not a victimless crime, and it never has been.
And it's amazing that the peopleon the left continue to defend
it. After a few months before their
wedding in 2012, Christie decided to pay off the total
balance of no, not their debt, emptying her savings account and
sending in a check for $6000. The relief lasted into the next

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tax season when they got a new bill, this one for $22,000.
How many Americans have dealt with this?
How many of you have dealt with this?
How is this acceptable that somefaceless governmental system
which is really, really happy torun you down and pull money
right out of your bank account, but it cannot actually protect
you from the people that came here illegally and are using
your stuff? The story goes on.

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And it's very sympathetic. It's sympathetic to the guys who
did it, the people who who were using this, this ID.
And that's the thing that blows my mind.
President Trump was promoting Operation Take Back America
nationwide campaign to root out undocumented workers using fake
IDs. Kluber, a registered Republican,

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rarely paid attention to politics.
But he began to wonder if his case might be finally a
priority, if he could reclaim what belonged to him.
And a few weeks after being pulled over, he drove to the
police station Olivia, to submitanother affidavit about identity
theft. Someone has stolen my ID for
working purposes. It's been happening for 15
years. Why does this man who pays his
taxes, you have to beg for someone to do the job that

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should have been done? And This is why people are
pissed. And This is why less people are
going to be sympathetic because for everyone American citizen
who stopped who has a driver's license and is Hispanic, Yeah,
that's a bummer. Would you be willing to endure
that so they can get rid of the people that screwed up this
man's life and took 10s of thousands of dollars out of his
pocket and his wife, like emptied her savings account.

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Can we agree that that's actually probably worse than you
being stopped and asked questions by law enforcement
when you legally are allowed to be here?
I don't know if you guys have ever been detained by law
enforcement, but I have. I was detained when I was in the
military and it was dumb. And I've been detained other
times as well and it was equallydumb.
Sometimes my fault, sometimes not.
I'm not like a a complete St. inthis in this arena.

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And yet it's like at the end of the day, I walked free because I
didn't do anything that was worthy of being arrested.
They let me out and then they wrote one time I had a, a letter
put in my file when I was in themilitary and they said this guy
owned guns and they were secured, but they weren't
secured in the way that we thought they should be secured.
And so we violated the standing order.
And so here is a letter of, of acensure or whatever the heck it

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was letter of reprimand and Lor.And at the same time they wrote
me a letter of commendation because I've been doing such a
good job for taking care of guysthat was like way above my pay
grade. And that was kind of a wash.
It's like, OK, well, that was inconvenient, but I'm willing to
have that inconvenience because law and order should mean
something. And sometimes the system takes a
little while to work out as longas the process isn't designed to

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be the specific punishment, which I don't think it is in the
case of immigration law. But The New York Times is not
worried about that. They're worried about whether or
not this this poor guy, Perez Bravo.
Well, I mean, what about VincentJulio and Ronaldo Guerra?
What about all the people who were out there?
They're immigrants from Guatemala and Mexico and
Venezuela, and they're trying tocome to the Americas and they

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want to have a nice life. What about those people?
They have to answer to somebody else's name because they know
what they're doing is wrong. They know what they're doing is
illegal. They have to know, and we're
going to cry about them. They came here when they were 16
to try to help earn money. They hike through the Guatemalan

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mountains and Highlands. I don't give a shit.
You can't come to the country without coming in properly.
Look what you've done to some poor man with three kids out in
Minnesota that's never even lefthis freaking town.
I mean, I don't know many peoplewho do that, who don't go
anywhere, who have lived in the same place, who work the same
job as their fathers. That seems like a very antique
version of America. And if that guy is potentially

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susceptible to it and he doesn'tgo anywhere, what on earth are
we doing here? I got to show you this, too.
This is the poor. This is this is the sympathetic
photo of Romeo Perez Bravo, who spent his entire adult life
working under borrowed identities.
And by borrowed, he means stolen.
This is why the New York Times is not going to get sympathy.

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This is why there are people wholisten to this and I don't care
what they think. He was deported multiple times.
He had a string of DU is that means he drove around here
illegally while hammered and putpeople's lives in danger and got
deported in 2005, 2008 and 2009.And he got a sympathetic like,

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fluff piece written by the New York Times of all things.
These borrowed identities are felonies, they're all felony
identity theft, and they have anactual victim.
How crazy is that? Like millions of undocumented
immigrants, he paid federal and state taxes, which were

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automatically deducted. Apparently they freaking weren't
though, because they bumped up another man's income tax bracket
to the point where he was getting hit with it.
Why didn't he get hit from the illegals tax as they were filing
on this? It's insane.
You've created a system. The, the Social Security number
was never even meant for ID Go look at your Social Security
card. It actually says not a valid ID
on it. The document is actually written

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and the, and the, and the usage rules.
And we've turned around and we've done all the worst things.
And the worst reason is because we have ceded authority to a
federal government that now getsto collect taxes.
Number one, they get the first crack at your paycheck.
So how are you even a citizen? You're a subject.
It's the same story as if you don't pay your your property

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taxes, they'll come take your house for $47.
There were stories about this happening during the COVID
shutdowns. People losing their houses over
2 digit dollar amounts because they didn't pay the state what
they were owed and they auctioned off some poor old
lady's house who didn't have enough money and they're
sympathetic. Articles being written in the
New York Times. I, I don't get it.
Like I, I, like I said, I think this country is cooked because

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of these stories alone, simply because some people cannot
process that there is like, justlike a straight up right and
wrong and degrees of wrong stillare wrong.
That seems pretty straightforward.
And they act like, well, this, it's our burden to carry this.
Well, I can pretty much tell youthat that guy, this poor man,

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Daniel, Daniel Cluver, I bet youhe's not particularly
sympathetic to the people who took his identity and thousands
and thousands of dollars. It'd be hard for you to have a
lot of forgiveness in your heartwhen that was the case.
And imagine like just the concern, it's always back there.
I remember when I found out thatpeople were working under my
security number, Social Securitynumber, it was the same thing.

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It was like, when is this going to pop up next?
When am I going to deal with some crazy person putting
something on my record that I'm going to get pulled over
randomly because I got a tail light out on my ancient ass, You
know, 91-F-250 and the cop is going to find out that I'm
wanted for some crime somewhere because somebody's been running
around with my license in another state that I've never
lived in. And the wild thing is, is I

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lived all over the place. So it's plausible that I could
have been there. I mean, it'd be much harder for
me to argue than the guy who lived in the town his whole
life. This is why people don't feel
like their country's there. And that's why they they wanted
this Make America Great Again attitude.
That's why this was a winning slogan.
The problem is is that it's justnot happening.
You can't tell me America first and then say, well, also, but we

(35:56):
want to give billions of dollarsto Argentina and we're thinking
about starting a war with Venezuela.
And we're going to welcome SaudiArabia and we need a Qatari Air
Force Base. And we're going to sell a bunch
of, you know, weapon systems to the Qataris and we're going to
give them training up in in Mountain Home ID people just go,
how is that us first thought we were going to take care of our

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problem. The first problem would be get
all the people that are stealingfrom us because that's what it
is out of the country. Priority one, clean up your
house. Priority two, clean up your
front yard. Priority three, maybe you can
help out your neighbor. If you are starving and you are
unable to like physically lift your arms, you're not going to
be much used to anybody. There is a circle.

(36:44):
There's a circle of things that you can influence and they are a
bullseye and you got to handle the things closest to you first.
And we thought that Donald Trumpwas, was running on that.
It's wild to me that that was not the case.
And this is going to be the, theargument that I make when we
look at some of the really dangerous things, the, the like,
if you want to clean up your house, how about the people who
are meant to make sure that things are going well in your
house, your federal investigative agencies, your

(37:05):
federal law enforcement? How about making sure that they
are doing the things that they promised, which should be just a
no brainer day one task. It's like, Yep, we're going to
go clean these problems up. That has not been the case,
folks. It has not been.
And so, you know, it makes me feel kind of like a, it's kind
of a dismal feeling. And I, it's shared by a lot of

(37:27):
people, retirees, people who worked in government, people who
are currently working in government, people who are
working in private sector that are seeing this like very
unstable moment when the bad guys seem to get the better end
of the break. When the New York Times will
write a sympathetic article about you, an identity thief, a
drunk driving asshole who's beenrunning around in my country and

(37:48):
kicked out of it multiple times.And you keep breaking back in
and we're supposed to feel bad about it because you spent your
whole life breaking the law here.
Throw him out of the freaking plane.
At this point, it's like, well, apparently it didn't take when
we deported him multiple times. Now we're going to deport him
with a parachute and we're just going to see where he lands
because we don't care. Because he apparently doesn't

(38:09):
care what we think either. That may not be the nicest
sentiment, but I bet you get a whole lot of people to sign up
for that program. How many of us would be the jump
master on that plane? I'll do it.
I'll have no jump master experience, but I'm happy to
play that game. It's just sickening.
That's why people are fed up andyou're not going to get
sympathy, you're going to have anger and it's going to boil
over. And this is the whole problem

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that you heard Alex Jones talk about for years.
The concept of the Podesta plan is you got some people that are
crying about the illegals and you get some people that are so
fed up because they were just regular people wanting to be
left alone and found out that even things that shouldn't have
ever bothered them, like the southern border should not have
affected a man who lives in a Midwestern, northern, Midwestern
town with 2400 people in it. It should never have even

(38:51):
affected him, and yet it did. And it's because of policy and
it's because of it's because of the, the, the focus is not on
the thing that we heard. We all heard one thing.
We believed it meant something. It turns out that that's not the
focus. All right, Since we've been
talking about having your identities stolen, this is a
good time to talk about my buddies over at Patriot Protect.

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They constantly are warning us about this.
They support our program becauseof it.
Patriot-protect.com slash Kyle would normally be the way that
you go about this, but they are running an extra special deal
right now at patriot Protect andthe deal is if you use BF for
Black Friday 50, you'll get halfoff anything that you guys want
to buy from them. It looks like I just threw out

(39:34):
my my icon which I had on the screen.
There was a big Google breach. This is a Gmail breach that
happened of late. And if you guys are if you are
interested in, in reading about Google breach and data breaches.
Yeah, you could lose like your passwords and your logins.
But the key is, is that it puts you on the data broker websites
and the data broker websites. These people search websites is
where some of these folks can find your data.

(39:56):
Then they can use your name, your address, your e-mail, and
they can go out and find you on the dark web and find out, oh,
this is a pretty suitable match here and they can buy your
stuff. You heard it as little as
$150.00 to wreck your credit, towreck your your financial
history. Buy your access to some of this
other stuff for way cheaper thanthat.

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It costs like pennies on the dollar to have leads so they can
call and try to scam you. So one way or another, if you
guys are not doing something to keep yourself out of a pile of
the scammy fraudsters, just don't make yourself a target for
them. One of the easiest ways you can
do it. It's some of these things like
now it's like 50 bucks for the whole year.
Divide that out across 12. It's dollars a month and their

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and their discount's even going to work better.
So again, it's patriot-protect.com/kyle.
And then just type in BF Black Friday 50.
I found the icon there it is on the screen.
BF50 save half off on anything you guys want to buy.
Do the annual. It'll it'll default you to a
monthly, but the annual is actually cheaper.
You get a discount for that. And then you also get a discount
right now during the Black Friday special.
So check them out. If you guys have been on the
fence on it, this is the time tokind of jump in and make that

(40:57):
kind of thing happen. All right, let's do another
frustrating story and we're going to get right to this pipe
bomb thing. And we're going to start with
the frustrating story of this dollar amount.
Again, unserious people doing unserious things.
And here it is. This is another New York Times
article. This is why my father-in-law
knows a little bit about what's going on in our house.
Patel under scrutiny for his useof SWAT teams to protect his

(41:18):
girlfriend. That was covered by another
article here, which I thought was also even funnier.
And Oh, no, what is this nonsense they said?
They said he's enraged that the SWAT team left his girlfriend
when she sang the national anthem and they decided she was
safe at a sporting event. When I tell you that my
frustration with the Trump administration is

(41:39):
straightforward. They promised one thing, and
then what they did, it seemed like that.
Like, we want to be the people who rule over the ashes.
We're just going to take as muchmoney as possible.
And I don't care whether you call it a con job or a grift or,
you know, corruption or whateveryou want to call it.
The name is irrelevant to me. The attitude is like, I'm going
to get mine and screw you. The amount of like significant

(42:03):
disrespect that would have to pop up for you to be so
entitled, feel you're so entitled to other people's money
for your comfort simply because you want it.
It's it. It escapes me completely.
I can never understand. We found out that my

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father-in-law had a scenario where he sold his house and
apparently the attorney that helped him sell the house in in
New York, which apparently you need because it's New York.
So it's commie like stole A6 figure amount of money from him.
And then he had to threaten thatperson and then that person sent
the money back after like a year.
And then the attorney that was helping him get that money back
sent him a bill like a finder's fee.

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Where do these people come from?Where are these people that have
absolutely no sense of ethics orscruples?
And it turns out they they seem very, very excited about being
in the in the Northeast corridorand they love getting into the
halls of power. And so this story is just
another great example of this. This is a story that we've
covered, I think. I think we broke this story,
guys. I mean, I was talking about this

(43:09):
months ago. We scooped the mainstream on it.
The fact that Patel was using a security detail for his
girlfriend, not wife. That's a big deal and that he's
been running around on the the government jets after saying
that it should be shut down. All of this stuff makes it go
OK, well, if you're lying about this, what other things are you
lied about? That's where it comes down to
for me, if you're lying, if you were so effortlessly lying to me

(43:34):
about things that are really important, if your credibility
is on the line. The the first minute you take
office, you sit down in front ofthe Senate and you lie during
your confirmation so you can runan agency where you fire people
for lying because lack of candoris the number one way you get
out of federal law enforcement. How is it that we're ever

(43:55):
supposed to take anything you say seriously?
So all I do is I listen critically like I did to the
previous FBI director, and I spot the lies in the statements
they give because they're being very cautious so that they're
walking on the right side of some sort of technical argument.
He sat down for this interview. This is him being asked about
the Thomas Crooks investigation,the the potential assassination

(44:17):
or the attempted assassination of today's president.
And he claims Donald Trump is really happy about it.
And at the same day yesterday, we started seeing some rumblings
from a pretty reputable source. Paul Sperry has some pretty good
contacts in the Trump administration claiming there
might be some big shake UPS. Allow me to just kind of give
you guys the behind the scenes as, as best I understand it, the
Trump administration has what's called a no scalp policy right

(44:39):
now. In other words, they're not
going to fire anybody. They're going to promote them to
a place where they can't cause any problems.
That used to be the way the FBI work too, by the way, when I was
there. It's like, oh, you suck.
Let's find a place to put you soyou don't mess anything up.
And apparently that's been the Trump policy under Susie Wiles.
We're not taking scalp, so we'renot going to get rid of Pam
Bondi, even if she's ineffective.

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We're not going to get rid of Patel or Bongino.
We're not going to get rid of Mike Waltz.
We're not going to get rid of these people.
We're going to find them somewhere where they cannot
screw anything up. That's the claim.
So let's hear about this. Not screw up on an investigation
which could have taken Donald Trump's life, but for the grace
of God and maybe 1/4 of an inch one way or another.
Catherine, we've been briefing the president constantly on this

(45:22):
matter, and he's very satisfied with it.
And I understand the public's desire for more and more
information. But when we came in, our job was
to both treat the president as apresident of the United States
and a victim and remind the American public that there were
three other victims and tragically, one person even lost
his life. So there are certain victims
rights that we have to honor. But what we did and what we

(45:42):
presented and what we released is the full findings that we are
able to publicize to the world that definitively answer
questions regarding Butler. We we seized dozens and dozens
of devices. We exploited and got into every
single one of those devices. We got on to all the online
platforms and social media sitesof the assailant of Brooks and

(46:03):
we did a recanvassing just to double down since we got in and
inherited this case and we gave out information to Congress and
the public that the prior administration refused to do.
Just to be clear, did Thomas Crooks act alone?
Yes, based on the evidence that we have, that is the conclusive
finding of the matter is. That is the conclusive finding

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at this moment when we are in the consideration of the facts
of the things that are availableto me to review by the people
who have briefed me on the time and the topic for which we are
discussing. I had a real similar interaction
with a guy on Donald Trump's first inauguration.
He was shining a laser pointer into the the Capitol or the Park
Police helicopter. It's called Eagle 1.

(46:45):
And so me and my partner, who was a Secret Service, he was a
plainclothes officer, not an agent, and he worked for the
counter surveillance unit. And the two of us were walking
around looking for troublemakers.
That was just what we did. We made sure that nobody was
going to abuse their First Amendment liberties and stop
other people from being able to use their First Amendment
liberties. So we're following around.
We see this guy, we see the laser pointer go through this
tree. It hits the the the Park Police

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helicopter. And I start following him.
My partner gets on the phone, Hecalls up Secret Service and he
says, you know, can we get clearance to do a probable cause
based arrest? We just saw this guy use the the
laser pointer. We've been hearing about it in
the radio all day. It fits the same description.
It's a green laser, which was very specific.
We just saw him shine it into a police, you know, squad car that
was driving on coming and it andit hit the windshield and you

(47:28):
can actually see the windshield light up.
It was real crazy. And so it's like, can we get
this guy? And they said yes, bring him
into custody. We're going to dispatch Park
Police for transport. Fantastic.
So we go into this little we go to this little place.
It's a like a falafel place and it's up on K St. if memory
serves. I could probably find it on a
map still. We follow this guy from the park
into the he goes into the this this restaurant and he buys

(47:52):
something and he turns around and he's waiting for his food
and we both pop out our badges. Now we're wearing like hoodies,
you know, and like jeans, like we're we don't look cop ish on
purpose. We're doing plainclothes stuff.
We pop out the badge hanging around the neck.
He's got his badge out. My partner does.
And we go, you're being detained.

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Come with us. We're federal agents.
And the guy tries to like, run past me and he like, runs into
me. And I'm like, dude, this.
And my beard was about an inch deeper, thicker.
So I, I look kind of formidable.And I'm wearing puffy clothes.
So we take them outside, we put them against the wall and we're
like, hey, man, do you have a laser pointer on you?
Did you just fire into that helicopter?
And he goes, well, based on the advice of the needs of the

(48:36):
attorneys and the the probable cause to believe that the law of
the application of Direct Energytowards the lighting system,
which may be contained, he just starts saying nonsense like a
smoothie of words that he thought sounded litigious.
And my partner's like, did you have a frigging law?
And they like, you know, frisks them for weapons.

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And of course, he finds this huge, like lightsaber sized, you
know, D cell battery sized laserpointer up his arm.
And it's like, I knew you were lying because you started saying
babbly, gobbly gook nonsense. Tell does this every time.
And what we've realized from listening to him is he's got a
couple of tells. Number 1, he says, would I be
the guy that would hide this thing from you?

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The answer is obvious. Yes, That's what we're asking.
Would you be the guy? You answer the question, Don't
ask me the question. The second thing that he does,
which is also really interesting, is he gets these
long winded, sort of overly explanatory, nonsensical.
It's what dumb people do when they are trying to lie to you
and they try to say more words so you don't pay attention.

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And the last thing that I've seen him say is that whenever he
covers, he always says the material that is available to us
because Cash Patel knows nothingabout how the FBI works.
Even though he's been the director for coming up on nine
months now, he doesn't know Brooks.
I'll just tell you very conclusively there is it's a
it's a long learning curve to learn how to handle the FB is
file keeping system and how to do power searches.

(50:00):
It's not obvious, it's not intuitive.
It's a crappy government system.And if you think that the man
who's doing this interview, who's going out and doing this
mouthpiece garbage and trying toclaim that something is fine,
that Donald Trump loves what he's doing and that he solved
drugs and he solved murder, which is 2 things that they make
claims about to claim that that is the case.

(50:20):
It's disingenuous because when you listen to their words, they
always say based on what we've been briefed, you know, I didn't
read the files. Every time he's underoath, he
gets called out. And so I'm going to play some
Tom Massey later on who hones inon this exact thing.
These guys do not know what is even in the FB is file.
They are getting briefed by people in the FBI.
And I'm just going to ask you a real simple question.

(50:42):
If you were in a government agency and you wanted to keep
doing whatever shenanigans you were involved in, what would you
do when two guys showed up who said that they were going to
tear apart your agency? It's an open question.
Would you say, ha, like we're going to get rid of you?
Would you do like a sneer and doa cartoonish sort of thing as

(51:02):
you saw them? Like, we'll see how long you
last. Like, not if I have anything to
say about it. Are you going to be that or are
you going to walk up and kiss their ass immediately?
Would you walk up to them and say, Mr. Patel, Director Patel,
we're so glad you're here. There have been so many things
that have been going wrong over the last and we're so glad that
you're here. You've been talking about it.
We want to help you do the solution.

(51:24):
And then meanwhile, what do you do?
Who's going to guide you right over here?
You dummy? I'm going to get your trust.
You're going to infiltrate, you're going to obfuscate,
you're going to bubble wrap, which is what the word is.
We're going to make sure that you do what we say because we're
going to provide you the information.
Don't listen to those dissidentsout there, those those

(51:45):
personality flawed, those character character issue type
guys. Don't listen to the
whistleblowers that put everything on the line and lost
their jobs because they thought what was going on here was
malfeasance. And by the way, who's whose
Dicks you rode into the freakingoffice that you're in right now?
Excuse my language, but that's what it is.
You rode in on other people's hard work, and then you're going

(52:06):
to give your girlfriend a security detail, fly around the
jet and make him do a reupholstery on it.
Right away. You're going to get a whiskey
bar installed and you're going to be pissed off that Kyle
Seraphin knows that your pilot was involved in the exact same
investigations that you decried.And that's something.
And then you run to a friendly outlet and you have these things

(52:27):
to say. So we're going to keep doing
those. We're going to talk about how
about the Charlie Kirk investigation?
You remember how he got out in front of that and he immediately
made it about himself? Director of Valhalla, Remember
that we got burn bags, which they discovered, which are just
trash. That's evidence that was waiting

(52:49):
for me to find them. Who showed you where they were,
dummy? Oh, people in the FBI, you think
that they have your best interest at heart?
They are making you look like a freaking buffoon.
Maybe, maybe, just maybe you should have walked in with a
little bit of skepticism and trusted no one.
Do you guys remember? Like that isn't the first rule
of the S Files. Trust no one.

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Why? Because everybody had an agenda
and they were all trying to moveyou around.
We're going to get into that in a second.
I'm going to go and play some Tom Massey stuff.
All of the next like maybe 15 or20 minutes is going to be, I
think, very revealing. And I'm going to give you names.
I'm going to give you a specifically a name that is not
being mentioned and is a real problem.
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These are not cheap items. Somebody made a comment about
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You buy the cheap stuff, they fail.
Just trust me, we did this in the Bureau.
We bought all the cheap crap andthey all fell apart.
These things have high functionality, they are well
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They are good solutions, which is a difference and sometimes
you got to pay for that. Good company, good equipment,
stuff that I wish I had been using when I was on the job.
I used tinfoil and an ammo can. You look like a complete psycho
pulling that out and taking yourburner phone out from the back
of your trunk like that. You had to go and find a parking
garage. If you guys want to be able to
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And that's not always the case. Things that are made, they make
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they make stuff here domestically as well.
So if you need a very compliant thing, they've got that covered.
All right, we're going to continue onward with this wild
story and the, and the story is wild in so much as we are being

(55:37):
lied to our face and we are having somebody who should have
known better who's getting lies to himself.
Now he's regurgitating the lies.That's why I have such a problem
with it. All right, let's do the Charlie
Kirk question. What's going on there?
How come you haven't shared any more information?
The answer is they never should have shared as much as they did.
For all of you people that are doing amateur sleuth
investigations for the Candace Owens loonies out there.
And by the way, she's nuts. I've didn't listen to some of

(56:00):
the new things. Nobody, nobody can substantiate
it. But apparently the French
President is using as Jewish sniper in the in the Foreign
Legion to come after her. OK.
Like people, at some point in time, somebody's got to give you
some evidence. The fact of the matter is the
FBI should have never given you as much as they did.
The only reason they did is because Cash Patel was thirsty,

(56:20):
which is what that looks like he's used to doing.
Stay tuned, which we're going tohear in a second.
And he's always like, trying to catch more attention and say
this FBI, I need a win. And he was so desperate for win
that he actually screwed this up.
And he claimed that they caught the subject before they did.
That's how much this guy wants positive attention and spin.
He's willing to screw it up. So here's his question about

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that and you guys will see this from the sit down interview with
Captain Harris. On the Charlie Kirk
assassination investigation, youtestified recently that more
than 20 people were on the Discord chat related to the
suspect, Tyler Robinson. Have you spoken to those people?
Is it now a larger universe of 20 people?
Well, so with the Charlie case, it's a matter that is being led

(57:06):
by the state authorities in Utahbecause it is a homicide
investigation that is being prosecuted by the state.
So us as the FBI are partners and part of that prosecution
team. We're not the lead and it's very
much ongoing. So there is a lot of legal
process being doled out and we are committed to issuing every

(57:26):
piece of legal process and search right that we can to talk
to absolutely everyone and anyone who had anything to do
with the assassination of my friend.
And we're going to continue to do that and also honor the
prosecutors wishes and how we dothat and what we release
publicly respecting that. It is an ongoing investigation.
Is there any evidence of foreigninvolvement?

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Is there any evidence that TylerRobinson had help?
Again, that will be spoken through by the prosecutors.
If I, as the FBI director, commented on that right now in
any way, shape or form, that would hurt their case.
And the worst thing that can happen is the individual who's
charged and has his day in courtdown the road is if we, the FBI

(58:07):
or another law enforcement agency, improperly commented on
evidence and gave the defense anunfair advantage.
This would have been the right answer right after it happened,
but now it's ridiculous you've inserted yourself in.
The only answer you should have said is.
I've actually recused myself completely from that
investigation because he was my friend and I can't have anything

(58:28):
to do with it, both by DOJ and FBI policy and basically
standard law enforcement policy across the country.
I've recused myself. I am not getting updates on this
case and you'll have to talk to somebody else.
I refer you to the state of Utahwhere the prosecution is
happening and the local law enforcement that it has the
lead. The difference is he claimed
that they were the lead. He's gone out in interviews in
the last 45 days and said I LED a nationwide manhunt and I found

(58:49):
the guy in record time and I'm so awesome.
Dude, screw you. We have the tapes.
We know what a lying sack of garbage you are.
We can look you right in the eyes.
Yeah, I'm doing the hand thing. We know that what you've done is
contrary to that. Now, maybe you finally got some
good legal advice, which is great, but the the legal advice
should have been shut the F up. This is not your story to

(59:13):
comment on. And so the answer is, I cannot
comment because I've recused myself.
Or you could spend a bunch of BSfor like 90 seconds to two
minutes and hope that we believeyou like some teenager that's
caught in a trap. Hey, were you hanging out with
your friend Marcus the other day?
Well, when I was out there and then like, so then, so then
Julie called and then, so then we were doing this and we drove
over to the to the 711. And when I was at the 711, you

(59:35):
know, cuz like Andy's dad, it's like, shut up.
Stop lying to us. Every time I see this
gaslighting garbage, the thing that drives me absolutely
bonkers is then I go and find that there's somebody online
going like, this is what I votedfor.
So great. Or we get the the official cover
story which comes from this ladyJulie Kelly was like amazing

(59:59):
cash Patel announces new information is coming soon.
Julie Kelly, some of you guys need to do some of your research
on this. This is really fun for you.
This is the genetic literacy project Science, not ideology.
Funded by Monsanto, funded by a $100,000 grant from the Bayer
Aspirin company which owns Monsanto.

(01:00:19):
I think I'm getting my numbers right there.
Don't sue me on that. That is my honest belief that
that what I'm saying there is correct.
This is her viewpoint. The anti G MO movement and the
label demands are losing steam under this Republican
administration. That was in August of 2017.
Can consumers really credibly rely on USDA organic labels?
June 2017. Remember the food Blogger turned

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January 6th. Awesome person.
The the the the pipe bomb expert.
Why is she a pipe bomb expert? I don't know.
Her expertise apparently was in debunking the science of organic
foods and going out and talking about how great it is that
people use GMO genetically modified organisms in their
foods. FOIA organic industry.

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Chuck Benbrook orchestrated an anti GMO independent research
air quotes, kind of like whistleblower in air quotes
marketing. That's in October of 2015.
This is why Whole Foods in Chipotle's anti GMO campaigning
has lost my business. Julie Kelly's no longer going to
Chipotle or Whole Foods 2015. Hollywood celebrities embrace

(01:01:24):
pseudoscience and they produce anti GMO movie.
Pro GMO marchers are shocked andand unfocused with their anger
at the March Against Monsanto 2015.
Yeah, like, no joke, she legitimately posted a picture of
herself standing around a bunch of people who are marching
against pesticides on food and wrote I feed my kids GM OS.

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Why would she do that? Why is this the lady who's also
carrying water? And This is why when I say that
we don't actually deserve betterpsyops, it's because people just
don't actually look into it. Only bring this up because this
was covered by this woman. She went on and tried to make a
run cover for the FBI story about the pipe bomb trying to
debunk the work of, of, of SteveBaker.
And we're going to cover that injust one second.

(01:02:09):
So this is completely related toit, I promise you.
But you wonder like, why on earth does this woman go out
there and back things like Monsanto and GMO foods?
Maybe it's because her husband owns this.
This is all Serco's valued clients.
Some of all Serco's valued clients include Archer Daniels
Midland. That's literally the first

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company that they list. I assume that's their biggest
client. And there they are in the
alphabetical order, Archer Daniels Midland Company.
If we want to talk about a a swampy experience, All Circo is
the lobbying company that is owned by Julie Kelly's husband.
All Circo has an inked deal going back to 2016 with Ballard

(01:02:51):
Partnership and Ballard Partnersis the place that employed Susie
Wiles and Pam Bondi and represented Qatar in the United
States and a bunch of other interesting swampy things.
This is the top Democrat lobbying firm in the city of
Chicago in the state of Illinoisand their their their their
founder and their president's wife Julie Kelly used to do pro

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Monsanto stuff and now she's working on like discrediting
people who are doing work on theJanuary 6th base and talking
about the pipe bomber. For those of you that don't know
about Archer Daniels Midland, itapparently is an $85.5 billion a
year total revenue company, nearly $100 billion.
It is ranked 35 on the Fortune 50 in the year 2023.

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It is a massive corporation thatyou don't know anything about,
most of you. And so you wonder, oh, well,
what do they do? Why would she be out there
touting these things? I'm only telling you that you
can look into the motives of people and then realize that
their behavior aligns with it. What are their products?
They include oils and meal from soybeans and cotton seeds and
sunflower seeds and canola and peanuts and flax seeds and palm

(01:03:58):
kernel and dag oil, whatever thehell that is, and corn germ and
so on and so forth. They're interested in moving
things like high fructose corn syrup and sweeteners and
chocolate and ethanol and wheat flour and crystalline dextrose
and all these other things, things that are processed.
What else do they do? They do oil seeds processing.
Oh, wait. Julie Kelly is a beneficiary of

(01:04:18):
a company that that that pays her husband millions of dollars
a year to do what? To represent their seed oil
production? What about their corn
processing? No wonder she loves GM OS.
They pay her bills. They do agricultural services
and grain transportation, and they have a global transport
network and port operations to buy, store, clean and transport

(01:04:39):
agricultural commodities. I'm just reading from their
Wikipedia here folks. Do they have any scandals?
Of course they do. They have scandals here that
were brought to the Justice Department going back to 1920.
It looks like they had price fixing issues in 1993.
There was some sort of an issue where the senior Adm executives
were indicted on criminal charges for price fixing.
They've got tax charging things here in light of something that

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happened in Argentina in 2011. You've got a violation of the of
the Corrupt Foreign Practices Act that involved Ukraine in
2013. They had another company that
pled, pled guilty and they agreed to pay a huge fine.
Adm apparently paid like $36 million to settle SEC charges.
They apparently potentially corruptly gave a very, very

(01:05:22):
sweetheart land deal to the Secretary of agriculture in 2017
that would have been under Trump.
As I understand it, they sold land at a fraction of the
estimated value, which they, thethe ethics department decided
could have amounted to a bribe. And they had some questionable
accounting practices. In 2023, seven of the top

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executives received stock, received shares worth $72
million for exceeding their performance metrics.
In 2024, they disclosed that theSEC requested information
regarding these accounting practices on intersegment
transactions. It's all very litigious and
boring. OK, This is one of the people
who's running cover on it. Again, I'm telling you this
because here it is. She got really mad.

(01:06:04):
She went on this the story with Viva Frey Viva Fry was like or
Viva Fry rather. David did a really nice
interview where he said, go ahead and defend your position.
You invited yourself on my podcast to cover the story of
the the J6 pipe bomber. Tell me what's up.
And she hung herself with all those things because she's a
propagandist and propaganda doesn't work when you actually
have someone who's a legitimate skeptic.

(01:06:24):
That's not what happened in thisCash Patel interview.
He just got non-stop. Oh, OK.
What you're saying is great. Would you like an update on the
pipe bomber from the Catherine Herridge interview?
I would. Let's see what Caspatil has to
say. Remember just a couple weeks ago
he said stay tuned because he's still doing podcast stuff.
So are we going to get somethingbetter?
I'm sure we are. In a recent cable news interview

(01:06:46):
with Fox, you said to stay tunedabout the January 6th pipe
bomber case. Are there new developments we
can discuss? There are new developments.
Can we discuss them? Not at this time, but I think
you'll be hearing from us soon on it.
Are you closer to making an arrest there?

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When we took over the FBI, we knew there was a renewed
interest in a lot of cases of great public importance.
And of course, this one where itwas alleged that someone went to
the United States Capitol grounds and planted a bomb to
possibly blow up then Vice President Kamala Harris or other
Republicans and other Democrats on Capitol Hill, was one we felt

(01:07:30):
important enough to redouble ourinvestigative tactics.
And that's what we've done. And like we did in the comedy
case when we made presentations in court, when the American
public finds out the presentations we will be making
if we get to a judicial decision, then they will see how
much was missed in this case andwhat we have done.

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And I hope the American public will realize our commitment to
putting out as much information as we can, when we can, on cases
of great public importance. It's been a lot.
That is amazing. So basically, no.
So basically you got nothing, but you'll give it to us when
you can? What about addressing the Blaze
story? Or do you just want to send your
paid propagandist out there? Here's your propagandist.

(01:08:13):
This is Julie Kelly's FEC individual contributions.
Much has been questioned about this, mostly by me.
Nobody seems to want to ask thatquestion.
Top line Julie C Kelly Biden forPresident State of Illinois 2017
Sorry 12/17/2019 while she was in the middle of writing a book

(01:08:34):
about Donald Trump, $2800 hard money donation straight to Joe
Biden. Which resulted in what?
Oh, the Biden administration coming in and doing what they
did. I'm just saying we, we have the
propagandists that we deserve. The record is pretty clear.
And if you don't want to do any sort of just normal digging and
asking questions, if we can't get journalists to go out there
and say, hey, yeah, so we heard that, but there's a big story

(01:08:57):
that was broken by the blaze. Can you comment on that
specifically? Well, turns out somebody is
willing to comment on it. And that somebody is Tom Massey.
So let's play that. Tom Massey sat down with my
buddy Steve Baker. It's a 90 minute interview.
It's a little bit much for most of you.
I think it's a little bit much for me, to be fair.
I had to cut through it and findout what I wanted to hear
specifically. These are the things I think are
the most important parts of that90 minutes.

(01:09:19):
And I can give it to you in a much shorter time frame.
Before we do it actually before,let me just real quickly, I'll
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Consider subscribing to the channels there, subscribing to
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We go live at 0930 Eastern Time on on weekdays, except for the
rest this week, 'cause I'm taking off.
This is too much. Again, Kyle sarahandshow.com,
very easy to find. Let's do Tom Massey, here we go.
What did he find? We have reason to believe that a

(01:10:01):
small set of Capitol Hill Policeofficers may have been involved
in a pipe bomb conspiracy on January 6th.
There's so many problems with that story too.
Including the preservation request had gone in days in
advance. Before, right?
So yeah, the preservation request wasn't 40 minutes before
as the telecom company claims itwas days before, right?

(01:10:24):
So who who knows what to believethere?
But D Antoine should have known more than he did when he told me
it was corrupted, right? He could have explained
something about that. But here's this is from page 68
of the report that Loudermilk and I put out at the end of last

(01:10:44):
Congress. By early February 2021, the FBI
identified, quote, 186 phone numbers of interest derived from
the FBI's analysis of the redacted geofence and cell tower
dumps. UN quote.
According to an internal document attained obtained by

(01:11:05):
the Subcommittee, 36 of these phone numbers were assigned to
agents for interviews. 98 of these phone numbers required
additional investigative steps. And wait for it, 51 of these
phone numbers were identified asquote, not needing further
action UN quote, because the phones, quote, belong to law
enforcement officers or poor persons on the exclusion list.

(01:11:28):
UN quote, exclusion list. 51 people were not Their phones
weren't tracked or investigated because they were either police
officers or on an exclusion list.
That seems pretty problematic, doesn't it?
Shouldn't that be the thing? If you guys are curious, it came
from this page right here. We've shown it on the screen

(01:11:50):
before. This is not news to you who
listened to this podcast, but ifyou're new here today, welcome
to the program. By early February 21.
These are the breakdowns. 186 phone numbers. 36 are the ones
they actually followed up on forinterviews. 98 went back to the
analysts for additional investigative steps. 51 were
excluded because they were law enforcement or considered
exclusionary. What's really wild about that

(01:12:11):
report that you hear Massey reference, and this is not
something that I heard him say in that interview, There are 14
specific times when the word unclear is used.
I'm going to give you a couple of quick examples.
These are just three of the times.
The FBI continued analyzing large data sets from carriers
and certain devices exhibited behavior consistent with the
suspect. For example, in April of 2021,

(01:12:33):
the case team identified blank user who was in the area of
Washington, DC at the time that the suspect can be seen on video
footage using their phone, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
blah. The case team was attempting to
further analyze the user's movements.
It is ultimately unclear what happened with respect to this
lead. They apparently have had access
to the case file, but it's ultimately unclear what happened
on this one. They determine the chemical

(01:12:53):
components of the black powder found inside the pipe bomb
device. The FBI attempted to contact
stores and commercial distributors, and nada da da da
da da da. It remains unclear whether the
FBI was successful in identifying further persons of
interest using this particular information.
That's another example of it. In addition to analyzing the
pipe bombs, the FBI publicly released information describing
both pipe bombs as quote UN quote viable.

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However, given that the suspect used a 60 minute timer and 16
hours lapsed between the time ofplacement and discovery, it
remains unclear whether the pipebombs were actually capable of
detonating on January the 6th. To date, the FBI has refused to
provide additional information on the pipe bomb viability.
They've never addressed the viability question.
That's something that could be easily done.

(01:13:34):
They've actually released the reports and then said you figure
it out, dummy. We don't use any specific words
like viability, legitimacy, genuine capability.
They don't say that other than eating the right combinations,
these things could do something,but we didn't say whether or not
they're in the right combinations.
This has always been a cover up from day one.
Massey's hone in on this and part of the problem continues to

(01:13:54):
be the current FBI, and he hits the nail on the head, which I've
been telling you on this program, and I'm not trying to
toot the horn. I'm just saying I can read
between the lines and you shouldtoo.
Tom Massey has identified the same problem that I have seen.
The guys that are running these agencies are taking the word of
the people that have been in these agencies instead of the
people that were the dissidents and said there's a real problem

(01:14:17):
and the reason why they are actually there in the 1st place.
If you think Cash Patel ends up as the FBI director without the
outrage and the outcry and the whistleblower actions and the,
the loud and public cases that Iand others have helped explain
to the American people were problematic before Donald Trump
came in, I think you're nuts. Think about the things that you

(01:14:38):
think the FBI has gone and done wrong in the last, let's call it
5-6 years. Oh, they were spying on
Catholics. That was me.
Oh, they were spending on parents at school board
meetings. That was also me, right?
Oh, they, they, they set people up and then they, they, they do
these fake, you know, put up jobs and, and entrapment cases.

(01:14:59):
I've said that very publicly as well.
And I've given details and I've given examples and I can name
you the cases that I worked on that were like that.
And I found out after the fact what they had done.
All the stuff is really wild because all of that would make
you go in there and I would think, and you would be
immediately distrustful. You would look at them and say
you're part of this team that has been lying.

(01:15:19):
So my first question to everybody would have been, what
is your first responsibility as a law enforcement officer in the
United States working under the Constitution?
That'd be the number one. And then I would say, what
whistleblower actions have you taken defined as bringing a, a
problem with violations of policy, rule or law or gross

(01:15:39):
danger to the public? What have you done that
constitutes A whistleblowing action?
And if you don't have one that you brought to your management,
you brought to somebody in the Office of General Counsel, you
brought to the Office of the Inspector General.
If you did not bring them to an outside agency over at DOJ or
you did not bring them to UnitedStates Congress member, then
what? Why and how should you even

(01:16:03):
consider me thinking of trustingyou?
What would make you think that Iwould ever trust you?
If you can't even raise the alarm when you've seen something
bad, or if your claim is I've never seen anything bad happen
in this in the FBI, then you areimmediately a problem too.
That means that your head's downeither in the sand or in the
dark place that sits behind yourbutt cheeks.
Here's Tom Massey saying the most obvious thing in the world.

(01:16:24):
Why would you listen to these people?
Again, for the listeners, I'm onthe Judiciary Committee, so I
get 5 minutes with people like Christopher Ray or ATF Director
Dettelbach, who I asked about the pipe bombs to, and Merrick
Garland, who I asked about, Ray Epps.

(01:16:47):
I'm the guy. I'm the guy who asked the
question. Did everybody's afraid to ask
because they're they're afraid to look stupid?
But I asked Cash Patel here justrecently.
He the day before he had testified to the Senate that
that Epstein, even though there are 1000 victims, that Epstein

(01:17:11):
was the only perpetrator. Correct.
And so the next day he came to House Judiciary and I said,
well, the victims, which we prefer to call survivors, the
ones who are still alive, the survivors tell me that you guys
have at least 20 names. And I just, and I don't have

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the, I, I told him one of the names, Jess Staley, who's the
CEO, he said, but there's nineteen other names as six of
them are billionaires. One's a movie producer like I,
you know, we're not just making these up.
You can go find these people in your files.
And have you seen anything in your files?
No. Well, I said, what about the

(01:17:55):
three O2 forms, the FD3O2, whichyou've already referenced,
because the survivors know that the FBI memorializes these
interviews in these three O2 forms.
And so have you looked at the three O2 forms?
And he said no. And I said, well, how can you
testify that there's nobody that's done done any crimes or,

(01:18:19):
or any reasonable leads to follow?
And he said, well, I trust the people that work for me.
Well, that's a problem. We've we trusted the people that
were working there. Joe Biden would still be
president, right? Or Kamala?
Harris, isn't that just it? And haven't I been telling you

(01:18:39):
guys this? They trust the people that work
there. Are they the world's dumbest,
most trusting dupes? Maybe so.
Maybe they were so desperate to be like that that's what they
decided was reasonable. He said the same damn thing.
This is Dan Bongino saying the same damn thing when he went out
and did an interview. We've been briefed.

(01:18:59):
Listen to the words not. We went and looked at the files.
We looked at the first hand accounts and decided what was
was BS or not. We have been briefed on every
tendril and nugget and detail. There are no Nuggets in FBI case
files. There are no tendrils.
I don't know what a tendril of afile is, but that's not there
either. And the details got briefed by

(01:19:20):
someone who told you what they wanted you to know and not the
alternative. Guys, it's so easy.
You're being played and we can see it from the outside.
How can you not? You astute observers, Podcast
Dan and Podcast Cash would lose their ever loving minds about
this stuff. You know what Maria Cash is not

(01:19:41):
kidding. We've been personally briefed
extensively on every single detail, nugget, tendril of this
case. One is actively in court right
now, so add respect for the case.
It's probably more appropriate that I'd stay quiet on that.
However, I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear.
I'm going to tell you the truth and whether whether you like it
or not is up to you. If there was a big explosive

(01:20:05):
there, there, right, Given my history as a Secret Service
agent. Listen, you know me.
Would I say things that are false?
Only if I didn't know anything else.
Do I know anything else? No.
Did I go look at the files myself?
Also no. I let someone brief me and there
are no tendrils or Nuggets. What are we doing here?

(01:20:29):
And And do we recommend that whistleblowers come forward?
I don't. That's a really good way to get
haunted. Ask me how I know.
I had my boss come to me a couple of days after I met with
a member of Congress and he said, you're a whistleblower,
right? Questioning the affirmative.
And I was like, well, I'm not going to get fired for lying to
my boss even though I'm not underoath, but I'm pretty sure

(01:20:49):
he's not supposed to ask me that.
He's not. By the way, the members of
Congress don't know what to do with that information.
I, I was inexperienced. I know more now.
So I can send people that want to give me information.
I go, don't give it to me. Give it to an attorney who's
going to give it to people that will make it go to the right
places. Get it to the right Congress
members. Here's Tom Massey talking about
a whistleblower coming to him about the pipe bomb case.

(01:21:10):
So I received a whistleblower disclosure after your story came
out a week or two ago from a current FBI employee.
And it's a protected disclosure under, you know, US statutes.
He can't, they can't go after him for disclosing this to a
member of Congress. And he chose me and actually

(01:21:32):
very Loudermilk to make this disclosure too.
And his concern was that the investigation that went to Falls
Church, VA, that got them to thedoorstep of the person that you
identified through gait analysisas possibly somebody that might

(01:21:54):
have been the person in the hood.
He he said we had there were leads to follow.
There were suggestions made to the people in charge of the
investigation about how to follow up on those leads and and
it was just dropped after two days of surveillance and any

(01:22:19):
provided supporting documents tothat effect.
Well, Dan Bongino, like I, I retweeted your story and I was
in an airport and Dan Bongino called me.
I was about to get on a plane, but I spent 10 minutes talking
to him before I boarded. And he said that's that's a dead

(01:22:45):
lead. We, you know, we investigated.
That's a dead lead. I got briefed that we did
everything we were supposed to do.
So don't believe your lying eyesand don't look at a
whistleblower disclosure. And by the way, we're watching
you, you guys ready to hear this'cause this is where the the

(01:23:06):
real Nuggets drop. I'm looking over, I see we got
700 people watching live on YouTube right now.
That's a record number for us over there.
So thanks for joining us, YouTube.
Make sure you guys hit the like button.
We'd appreciate if you did that.OK, here's the deal.
Somebody reached out and let TomMassie know two things #1 the
FBI was considering prosecuting,investigating, and coming after

(01:23:29):
members of his staff for what's going on, for what he's doing
right now, for the problems he'scausing for the Trump
administration or for the FBI. And the second thing is, is they
sort of accidentally or maybe explicitly let him know that
they're monitoring his movements.
This is the the game we're playing right now.
When I've told you that, I was pretty confident that I had a

(01:23:50):
surveillance team follow me whenI flew from Austin to go move my
family out of my last FBI duty location, which was in Las
Cruces, NM. I'm pretty sure I did have a
surveillance team. What's my examples?
I can't show it to you. I didn't take pictures of them
at the time, but I used to do that for a living.
And I know how to draw out surveillance.
It turns out like one of the things you learn about being
surveillance is learn how to track surveillance and how to

(01:24:11):
pull it out. And what are the what are the
traps that catch you? What are the things that are
called SDRS, surveillance detection routes?
How do you do those? That doesn't mean that I go do
some crazy stuff and then like people are like, oh, no, it
means I I covertly lure you intoexposing yourself.
And sometimes people tell you because they want to threaten
you. And sometimes people
accidentally drop information onyou when they don't realize that

(01:24:33):
they're revealing more than theyshould.
This next two little clips from this interview with Baker and
Tom Massey are very revealing. And I'm going to name the name
that they do not. So Bongino did tell me, look,
tomorrow we're going to round upeverybody that was involved in
this investigation. We're going to get them all in a
room, we're going to get to the bottom of it.

(01:24:56):
And he didn't say we're trying to find the whistleblower.
No, but I my Spidey sense went off and I and I almost said to
him in that moment, you better not be trying to find the
whistleblower, right, because law protects that individual.
But I didn't say it. OK, Also, I'm going to I'm going

(01:25:21):
to say this here on camera because it's important.
One of Cash Patel staff threatened my staff with a
criminal investigation if we didn't straighten up and play
ball. I was going to ask you about
that, but since you brought it up, I'm bringing it up.
OK, you brought it up. And so like a a criminal

(01:25:46):
investigation having nothing to do, he said it was going to be a
fraud. We're going to investigate one
of your staff for fraud. And he told another one of my
staff this, if you guys don't straighten up, you know, if you
want to play hardball, if this is how you want to play it or
something like that, this memberof your staff is going to get
criminally investigated for fraud, a very specific threat,

(01:26:09):
right? And that had just happened.
So I told Bongino, I said one ofyour guys is threatening my eyes
with an FBI investigation if we don't do what you want.
That guy's name is Marshall Yates and he's the assistant

(01:26:31):
director of the Office of Congressional Affairs and he's
been serving in the FBI since March 14th of 2025.
This is their press release announcing him being named.
Cash Patel named him. And it's not just that he's now
the assistant director, which isAses position inside the Bureau
that has been held by FBI agentsand FBI employees and not by

(01:26:54):
random dudes as far as I know going back all the way.
Prior to his appointment with the FBI, Mr. Yates worked in
various roles as a lawyer on Capitol Hill.
He moved to Washington, DC in 2015 to serve as a legislative
council to Congressman MO Brooks, Alabama 5th.
In 2020, he was promoted to the Chief of Staff for Congressman

(01:27:14):
Brooks. In 2023, Mr. Yates was hired by
Congressman Tom Massey to serve as the Associate Counsel on the
House Rules Committee and his counsel on the chair as the
Judiciary Subcommittee on Antitrust Regulatory Reform,
Administrative State. Mr. Yates went to Auburn,

(01:27:38):
graduated in 2011. He was a member of the Hillsdale
College James Madison Fellowship, class of 2022-2023.
That's who's threatening Tom Massey's people.
This is not coming from somewhere else.

(01:27:58):
This is coming from a guy who actually used to work for Massey
himself. Marshall Yates.
And you can see right there, this is his legend Storm.
If you guys are not familiar with this website, it
categorizes who is being paid onthe public payroll.
Marshall A Yates, married to Mary G Ducey.

(01:28:20):
OK, 2023 to 2025. He was working for Tom Massie
before that, the Election Integrity Network, then MO
Brooks, Senate Judiciary Committee, and then a state
senator before that. Why is this guy who just got
joined, who just joined the FBI,who, by the way, was Tom

(01:28:40):
Massie's pipe bomb expert, as I'm told, on this case?
Why is he now calling back into his former office and
threatening people that he used to work with?
It seems important to know. Here's another little discussion
about it. When this, this is probably, I
may never get a chance to go into all this in the same form
at once. So I'm going to say this too.

(01:29:02):
When I hopped that plane to comesee you.
Yeah, I think it was on a Friday.
It was. I'm on the plane and I got a
text from that individual at theFBI who I've not talked to in
months. And he said, I need to talk to
you. And I said, I'm on a plane, I
can't talk. And he said, yeah, I heard you

(01:29:23):
were coming to DC. Now, the interesting thing about
that is I didn't even tell my own staff where I was going.
Now, obviously, I had to buy some plane tickets, and it was
on my calendar. It was very last minute,
actually. It's like, yeah, yeah.
You were like, are you coming ornot?
And I'm like, well, I'm not sureif I can make it.
This was like 3 or 4 hours before I got on the plane is

(01:29:46):
when I got the ticket right? And somehow this person who I'm
not talked to for months wants to talk to me all of a sudden
and had heard that I was coming to DCI.
Mean I didn't even tell my own kids I was going to DC right?
Anyways. That's disconcerting.

(01:30:06):
I just, I have to put that out there.
Yeah. Because if a turtle gets on a
fence post, usually it didn't get there by itself, right?
So Marshall Yates reaches out toMassey last minute when he books
a last minute flight to go to DCto sit down to talk to Steve
Baker about this pipe bomber case.

(01:30:27):
And he gets a call from the assistant director for the
Office of Congressional Affairs in the FBI, who took that job,
who used to work for him and says, heard you're coming to DC.
That's a classic Fed move, isn'tit?
And Marshall Yates, who just gotthat job, who's married to Mary
Ducey, who I guess has a, a brother-in-law, who's his

(01:30:49):
brother-in-law? There he is.
That's Mary's brother. So that's the brother-in-law of
Marshall Yates. Peter Doocy.
You guys know him, son of Steve Doocy.
Oh, they all just work together in that swamp.
And everybody's got an agreed agenda.
Nobody's going to say the name and you're safe because you're a

(01:31:11):
protected person. And we won't say what your name
is. We're we're upset with what
you're up to, but we're not going to do anything about it.
We want you to know that you shouldn't do that, but we're not
going to say who you are. I'll say who you are.
There you are. I know Marshall Yates has been
doing a lot of behind the scenesmovements and he's been calling

(01:31:32):
and threatening people, not justMassey staff members.
We're going to leave it at that for now, but that is, that is
not the first, that is not the first instance of people inside
the 7th floor of the FB is Hoover Building reaching out and
trying to flex power on the Independent Press and on the
independent power of the legislator, the Article 1
powers. This is a real issue.

(01:31:55):
If you're going to start threatening people with
investigations, if you're going to start dropping little hints
like hey, by the way, we're monitoring you, we're tracking
you. We knew where you were going to
be. Why don't you stop and talk to
us while you're here, even though you're not coming here
for that. And we never, we never asked you
if you were coming nearby. We got a real problem right now
in this country. We've got people that are not

(01:32:17):
working on our behalf and it is becoming more and more obvious.
And remember, stay tuned, we'll give you more information soon.
The people that are giving you the information are the ones
that are actually in the crosshairs of this and that and
the same, they're all the same federal government.
It hasn't changed. My buddy went out and pointed
something out to me the other day.
I wanted to leave you with this thought.

(01:32:38):
The way that the federal government does business is
administrative law and the federal registry.
Feel free to query yourself. There are about 25% less
administrative rulings on the federal registry in 2025 than
there were in 2021 when the Biden administration got in,
they got to business and they made the government work for
them through boring, litigious administrative policies that get

(01:33:01):
put out in the federal registry to the tune of 25% more.
It's like 4 or 5000 more regulations were passed in the
first year of the Biden administration.
Trump is like three out of four getting there.
There's like 18,000 to 23,000 orsomething to that effect.
It's a massive difference. And what it says to me is the

(01:33:23):
people who came in to quote UN quote reform rather than cutting
with a machete, all of this uglystuff, they've just been playing
ball and getting fed briefings and being told by people that we
trust everything is going to be fine.
Meanwhile, if they were fine, then why did we need to have a
new president? Why did we have an election in
the 1st place if the same damn people are going to be doing the

(01:33:44):
same thing? And there's no good answer to
this. And there's no good way that you
walk away from it and go like, Oh well, that's fine.
We don't get to vote our way outof something like this.
Doesn't mean it has to be violent, but I don't think you
get to vote it out. I think we need the same thing I
said a year and a half ago, maybe two years ago.
We need these states to start recognizing that the enemy is
the federal government, that thefunctional unit of our Republic,

(01:34:07):
our constitutional Republic, is the state, and that the Commerce
Clause does not give you writ large, you know, authority to
come out there and run every aspect of our life from the
federal side. We need to have a 10th Amendment
that actually means something. It has to because there should
not be a time when we look and say this, here's the good news

(01:34:30):
of your day. Gas prices are near the lowest
price in four years. Thanksgiving.
Oh, the Energy Department is doing a good job.
Oklahoma has the lowest price inthe nation.
It's 250 a gallon on average. Hooray.
You can fill up your truck. It's cheaper.
It's actually not cheaper where I live.
I don't know why they're saying that.
It was like 339 a gallon for fordiesel, which is about $0.50
higher than it's been in the last month.

(01:34:51):
So whatever, it's going to be cheaper for some people.
That means that the Energy Department is doing a decent
job. Well, what that tells me is, is
that gas prices where I live aresomehow directly tied to
something that is going on in Washington, DC, which is
completely illogical. It makes absolutely no sense.
And why the federal government has any say in this.
The stuff that they're out theretalking about is refinement
capacity, the policy coming out of the Department of Energy.

(01:35:13):
If these things can change what,what gas prices look like in my
little grocery store gas station, why, Why is the federal
government so involved? It was never meant to be like
this. That is not what we signed up
for. That's not the way our country
has decided. But luckily, there's your good
news. You guys want some good news
before we go to Thanksgiving. In the meantime, I'm still

(01:35:34):
really grateful for a bunch of things, which is that we have an
independent ability to share information with you.
There are people that are pushing back.
There are people who actually see it.
And I'm going to go Alto and saythis again too.
I'm not a big fan of Marjorie Taylor Green, but I watched her
resign the other day and I thinkshe picked the winning team,
which is to say she got off the losing team.
We're going to see a bloodbath in the in the midterms because

(01:35:55):
the guys who showed up didn't show up seriously.
And they took briefings from people who had a vested interest
in the clowning them. And you don't know the names of
the briefers, but you do know the names of the guys who just
got screwed over. So whether you like them or you
trust them or you thought they were going to do, it's
irrelevant. Doesn't matter what you wanted.
The fact of the matter is, stay tuned.
More coming. We're not going to talk about

(01:36:16):
this. We already blew it, but now
we're going to say some more things.
Apparently Thomas Crooks acted completely alone.
The pipe bomber is too mysterious for us to crack after
five years, right? And we're going to let people
like Candace Owens spin nonsenseout there because we did a
terrible job of giving you too much information, but not enough

(01:36:37):
for you to actually see the actual prosecuted case.
It's so goofy that we're living in this timeline, and again, all
of you feel the same thing. I saw people in the chat say it
earlier. There is a significant amount of
discomfort with the with the stability of this nation.
And if you're tuned in and I'm way too tuned in to be happy,

(01:36:58):
which is why I'm hoping I can unplug for a couple of days.
If you are that tuned in, you realize that it's just on this
razor edge. And if you go talk to a random
person on the street, they probably feel like something is
strange. Government shutdown snap benefit
like some part of it has affected them.
And at the same time, they don'tactually realize that that the
problem is pervasive. It's 100 years of coming to this
climax point and it's not going to get voted out of because the

(01:37:21):
votes you get always go back to people in the same system.
And that's actually not, that's actually kind of a heartening
thing. If you can recognize the
problem, you can actually find the solution.
I think. I think you can find the
solution. We need to really look at our
states to start selling. I'm not sure I care about
federal elections. I'm going to cover federal
politics only because it's such a it's, it's like looking at a
train wreck in slow motion. But what I really do care about

(01:37:44):
is knowing that our states need to start solving these problems
and that congressional districtsare changed by a few votes.
And maybe you can actually ask your congressperson to represent
you and not a party. And if not, those are the people
that we should be getting behind, the people that
understand that they're supposedto answer to the constituents,
not to like Mike Johnson and hisfake promises, as long as he

(01:38:05):
gets, you know, a little bit more power.
So I hope all of you guys have afantastic Thanksgiving.
I'm going to announce either on locals or acts, probably both,
whether we're going to do a callin show tonight where you guys
can just talk about the things you're grateful for.
We might do that first thing in the morning tomorrow during the
regular hour. That may not be a bad idea.
We'll just open the phone line up.
I'll put the phone on the screen, You guys call in, We'll
take your thoughts. You get 6090 seconds, something

(01:38:26):
like that to, to share the things that you're thankful for.
So we can have a really positivethought.
There are days that we should step away from politics and from
sort of the doom and gloom, which I, I don't think we can
get away from it, but we can at least remember why it matters.
And the contrast would be the things that are good.
There are plenty of things that are good and I deal with them
everyday. So as people who, who reach out
to me and they're like, are you all right?

(01:38:47):
Like, are you mad? Like, no, I go and hug my kids
after this and I'm going to be fine.
I'm always mad like the Hulk, like you should be.
It doesn't mean it affects the way that your your day goes.
And then maybe we'll even have acall in from one of our buddies
who could explain their love of Turkey, which I do not share,
versus the superior meat product, which is like a good

(01:39:08):
steak. All right, on that thought, I'm
going to leave you with no ballot cleanse, but the, the
lure of a college show either tonight or tomorrow where we can
share some nice thoughts with each other.
And I appreciate all of you thatare in the chat.
I'm going to put you guys on thescreen right there for those of
you that are listening, if you haven't seen what our chat looks
like, it's an easy way to see itby going over on Spotify, you

(01:39:29):
will see the voluminous number of messages that come in.
They come in every second or twofor the entire time that I'm on
this live broadcast and it gets shared out and we we categorize
it. Sometimes I go, I can watch the
the shows after the fact, folks,and I see your comments, which I
didn't see in the moment. And I'm like, that's funny.
We have a really funny group of people that show up and listen
to us live. And so I'm grateful for all of
you very specifically. And I hope you have a wonderful

(01:39:53):
afternoon and I look forward to hearing from you in our call and
show that we do very shortly. All right, God bless you.
Have a good rest of this day, whatever's left, and talk to you
soon. Thanks for listening to the Kyle
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