SHOW 'Em! Pipe Bomber Defense Check Raises the DOJ | Ep 703 - The Kyle Seraphin Show

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Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistleblower and
American patriot. Prepare to embrace the
uncomfortable truth because thisprogram has no time for
comforting lies. Here is civil liberties
enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI
agent Kyle Seraphin. Well hello my friends welcome to

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the Kyle Seraphin show for today, Monday, December the
29th. Just a little statement up
front, God is good is the 5th day of Christmas.
And we have for you 5 gold ringsin the form of proof of life for
Steve Baker. He's going to be joining me
shortly on the program and we are going to, we're going to get

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into all of it. So what I'd ask for you, if
you're just listening right now and you're been worried about
Steve Baker, if you've been praying for Steve Baker, I want
to thank you for that. And I also ask you for your
patience today because he is not100% and he's coming on here to
give you guys proof of life in an audio format only because I'm
guessing he looks like hospital food warmed over.

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And as that being the case, we're going to have him shortly
kind of in his own words. We're going to take our time.
We're going to go through the January 6th pipe bomber filings
which were given to us yesterdayby our DOJ and a very
interesting response by the pipebomber defense case.
They've added some new attorneysand I am pretty optimistic that

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this is a really good, it's a really good time to check raise
the government. The government asked for more
time in their own case. I think it is.
It goes along with exactly what we've been sharing for quite a
while in this, which is that thecomplaint was thin and they
don't have this case and it is going to be really devastating
to their to what they're doing. So we're going to make some some

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We're going to get into today's program starting right now.
All right, folks, I don't want to set it up too much and I do
want to take our time and be respectful of my buddy Steve
Baker appearing by audio only. Mr. Baker, good morning to you.

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Hey, good morning, Kyle. You sound like crap buddy.
Yeah, they had crap jam down my throat, you know, half the week
last week, but we came through. We're going to do OK.
I love it. Do you want to give people a
quick update? The last they heard we were live
and I mentioned you were in the hospital.
A lot of people were praying foryou.

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Whatever you'd like to share, it's not my medical information,
it's yours. So I'll let you tell them what
they want. Yeah, I don't, I don't know how
much detail people want on this,but there, there seems to have
been a little bit of curiosity on the online I I forget what
day it is now. We're right, I guess we're
Monday the 29th. So at this exact time last week,

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I was, you know, laid out on a table in a heart failure clinic.
They they have, they have they at the UNC Medical Center here
in Raleigh, They have a brand new this cardiac palace.
I mean this, you know, it's really nice.
I mean, it's super nice. It's super new, It's super high

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tech. And I, I was joking with one of
the lead doctors just a couple of days ago about it.
And I said, I said, you realize that this diet that you guys are
putting me on leans too heavily on the old food pyramid, you
know, the USDA food pyramid. And I said, and I said, I said,
you know, it's that food pyramidthat paid for this, you know,

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New Palace that you guys are working out of.
And. And she went, yeah, yeah.
I said, come on, you know, I'm right.
She goes, yeah, you're right, you're right.
I said, 'cause you all started killing us, you know, 6065 years
ago. Well, people don't necessarily
realize it, but cardiac medicineis probably one of the most
studied things in all of medicine.
And it was because people who had money were dying of, of

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heart disease and going back 50sand 60s.
And so you had a bunch of like white guys that were in business
that were, that were Keeling over in the middle of meetings.
So they studied it at a really high level.
There's a ton of money into it, which also goes to tell us we
know an awful lot about origin and we know a lot about the
actual medicine behind it and and how it works and why the
heart works the way it does. And you never had any heart

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problems if if if my memory serves.
Yeah, no, we don't have a history of it in my family,
don't have any background in that whatsoever for me.
So I, you know, I have obviouslybeen on a literal crash course
for the last week and catching up to speed.
You know what all of this means for me, especially going forward
in the future. But what, you know, week and a

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half ago, just only a week and ahalf ago, I was walking all over
DCI was up and down Capitol Hill.
I was in and out of the city working on the pipe bomber
stuff. That's what you know, to say
it's a a bit of an obsession of mine right now is an
understatement. But it is, it is something that
is, is taking up most of my time, most of my mental

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bandwidth. And I, I was working on that
very, you know, very aggressively.
We were doing, we were doing some incredible things in town.
We were going to, you know, the young accused bombers, Brian
Cole's neighborhood, canvassing the neighborhood, interviewing
neighbors, interviewing store owners that he interacted with

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for years. I, I was out with a tape measure
going out and measuring, you know, sidewalk panels and gutter
size panels and brick panels, literal, you know, stone and
brick in, in walkways and alleyways behind the RNC, in

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front of the DNC, in, in the kids neighborhoods.
To compare it to the photographyand video that we've been able
to acquire, which by the way, you know, through the blaze will
be coming out with something here very, very quick about this
and about the work that I was doing that week.
And and then of course, the guysthat are usually more behind the

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scenes and I, you know, I don't want to take away from their
efforts because they have while I was down for the last week,
they were able to keep this, this train moving and that of
course Johanneman and of course our guy.
Are you hearing that? Sorry.
You're a popular guy right now. Oh.
My gosh, I mean, and of course this is the healthcare, you

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know, the cardio people calling me every 5 minutes.
Steve, they're calling you to tell you to take it easy.
Lay off the work, don't do any call in programs and start
getting excited about the thingsyou were spending your week on
before the hospital. You know, I'm, I'm excited that
they're interested in my ongoinghealth, but this is the third
time they've called me this morning.

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So, you know, we, we have been putting together primarily right
now a defense of Brian Cole, this accused bomber.
Look, I'm, I'm just going to tell you, Kyle, it's not him.
I mean, I, I, I've seen enough, I have interviewed enough

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people. It's not him.
Why, why they decided to move forward with this.
I can only describe that in one phrase.
And that is an actual phrase given to me by an FBI agent who
told me and I quote, they went to their Patsy file.

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How crazy is that? And, and, and, and we're going
to, we're going to look, I'm really impressed with the new
attorney he has, with the work that they're doing.
And it looks like they are goingto, you know, really put on a
real defense here. I was afraid with the previous

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legal team that they were going to just mail this in and work
towards a plea deal and that maybe even the, the attorneys
were working for the government itself and, and this was just
going to go away and be swept under the rug.
They would, you know, be able toshake the dust off their feet
and claim a victory here. They got the pipe bomber and,
you know, and make it all go away.
But they don't. They don't have the pipe bomber.

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Steve, do you want to give a quick summary of some of the
stuff that you, I know you mentioned you talked to a shop
owner and people who saw him every day.
I mean, you gave the the 30,000 foot view.
You don't believe he did it? I don't believe he did it.
I think that's fair. We're going to give reasons for
that and we're going to help kind of run through the, the
government filing, which I was shared with you last night.
And, and folks, just so you're awareness, I don't think Steve

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is in the position or in the, the health spot to be sitting
there and reading through 30 pages of dense legalese.
That being said, we'll go through it today and we're going
to go through it nice and slowlyso that people can grasp it.
And I think that it is really damning to the, to the
government's case. The government's own filing is
actually the worst thing. And there's a follow up that I
think actually indicates that aswell.
But even before all this went down, before these filings, we

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had a, an arrest on December the4th, Brian Cole Junior, someone
that no one had ever heard of. I remember, I don't know if you
saw this, but I did an interviewand someone said, what was your
first thought? My first thought was what?
Who because he wasn't on any of our radar.
Is that fair to say for the Blazes investigation as well?
Yeah, not on our radar at all. I mean, he certainly was
probably one of those 186 phone numbers that they had pinged or

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had interest in that was released by Congressman
Loudermilk, Congressman Massey'sreport here earlier this year.
I would imagine that they were. He was on one of those 186,
which by the way, on a Tuesday evening, January 5th, only 186

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phone numbers shows you how thinthe streets were occupied at
that time of night. That is a great point that I
hadn't even considered. It's going to play into what we
discussed in just a minute, but 186 total phone numbers that
pinged in the vicinity that thatthey thought could have been
when they went out and did an exhaustive grab of all the
towers and and people that were in the area during the time that

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needed to be great, great point there.
So hold on to that people put that in your in your mindset.
We're talking about a very smallsubset.
That means deserted streets. If you've seen the videos of the
pipe bomber, there's not a lot of foot traffic.
We saw a dog Walker and not a lot else passing this person as
they moved around. Not a ton of cars even from the
static shots driving around because it was a very.

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It was a really weird time in Washington, DC.
It was cold, it was dark. It was after the election of
2020 and right on the eve of a day that apparently was.
Yeah, It was in the middle of COVID.
So people were wearing masks andstaying home.
And there were signs up everywhere that were saying, you
know, stay home, stop the spread, all this other kind of
nonsense. And.
And DC was really strange, whichis one of the reasons why I

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moved out of there a couple months later because I saw that
and I went. I want nothing to do with it.
Let's give kind of a summary. You spoke to you said the shop
over this is the 711 shop owner.Yeah, he's in the in the
neighborhood. You want to talk about that,
that meeting? Yeah, I'll, I'll talk about that
a little bit. I don't again, I don't want to
take away, you know, Joe was up all night working on this story.

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I couldn't sleep last night after the after the the filings
came out. And we saw those filings
yesterday. They, they rattled me so much.
I was so angry. I couldn't even, I couldn't even
get to sleep last night. And so I don't, I don't want to
steal the Thunder from what we have coming, but let's just

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let's just put it this way, people, Including the 711 store
owner at the entrance to the neighborhood where Brian Cole
and his family live is a place that for years he had gone into.
And this is in their words, every day.
Now, I don't know that it was every day, literally, but

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hundreds of times over a period of time and that this shop owner
that I interviewed told me that there's, I mean, just that he
said there's no way. He said as soon as he heard that
this kid was arrested and he sawthe images of this kid who he
has seen in his store 100 times and the awkwardness of this kid
and the way this kid walks and his inability to, you know, to

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deal socially in a normal manner.
I mean, even to the point where he said probably over several
years, Cole may have said 3 words to him.
And he said every day that he would, you know, come up to the
counter and he would get his same thing that he'd ordered
every time. He would get his 2 Coca Colas
and a slice of pizza. And, you know, the typical

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autistic, you know, 5 minutes toWapner, you know, routine is
that every single time this happened, he would always say,
you know, thank you to the kid or, you know, have a nice day.
And he would just turn around. And of course, the kid was
always wearing his headphones. He was always isolated inside
that environment that he liked being in.

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And, and so we ended up talking for, you know, quite a long
time. He was, he was the shop owner
was very, very effusive in his willingness to to speak.
And, and but this is, you know, this is as we've seen in other,
you know, the other mainstream reports, whether it's CBS or

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whether it's Washington Post or God, who else has done, has done
stories on this and have interviewed neighbors.
They've all said the same thing,they said.
The New York Post did the same deal.
Yeah, yeah, this, this kid is not the person that we've seen
in the videos of the the hooded pipe bomber.
You walked around that neighborhood when you were in

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walking shape. You want to talk a little bit
about what that neighborhood's like and what people may or may
not notice just based on the kind of the layout of the house,
the feeling kind of the the vibeof being in there, which is.
I mean, it's a, it's a very, very typical middle to upper
middle class suburban DC neighborhood.
People live well there. It's a safe neighborhood.

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It's the kind of place where a kid like him could walk his dog
every day, a couple times a day and be comfortable doing that.
And it's, it's ironically the entire neighborhood is almost
all populated by federal employees, including, you know,
probably hundreds of law enforcement, federal law

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enforcement of all type. And you, and you see that
because you see their governmentvehicles parked in their
driveways and you see them coming to and from work.
You see, the most ironic thing Isaw was the, his and her Secret
Service bomb dog, you know, specialist coming home.

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I mean the, the, the, the male partner comes home 1st and he
backs his, his SUV and takes thedog out.
And then the 5 minutes later hiswife I assume, or girlfriend,
whatever she is, she comes up identical vehicle.
She backs her SUV, takes her dogout and they're all out.
You know, they're walking their dogs and, you know, around the

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yard and wearing their, you know, their black Secret Service
bomb squad uniforms. You can't make that up.
I mean, how far? Away is that from that?
How far away is that from the Kohl's residence that you saw
that happen? Block and 1/2.
So what like 8 houses or something?
Because these are pretty well spread out.
Yeah, yeah, 810 houses. Just for people to understand.

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And then I, I, I've said it here, but I'll say it one more
time. I almost bought a house about
100 yards behind where the Cole residence is on the street.
That is, that is directly to theto the West of where their
cul-de-sac ends. I nearly bought a house there a
couple years ago. My wife and I went and went
through it more than once with arealtor and it's a nice place to
live. It's a kind of a sketchy
Woodbridge in general is kind ofsketchy as far as as far as

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suburbs of Washington, DC go in the Northern Virginia area.
But that particular little enclave, it's very idyllic.
I mean, it's, it's woods, it's space, there's no fences.
Nice neighbors. As you said, a lot of feds A.
Lot of law enforcement. A lot of law enforcement, you
know, the, the, the thing and I'll, I'll get back into
answering a little bit about my,my, my little run in with the

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advanced cardiology science, we'll just call it that.
I, you know, I was doing a lot of walking around that week.
And walking is a thing for me. I, I enjoy it.
I mean, when I'm in DCI, love towalk.
I, you know, I, I will walk for,you know, blocks and blocks and
miles and miles up and down Capitol Hill.
Doesn't, you know, doesn't phaseme.

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Except it was really phasing me a week and a half ago and I was
really beginning to notice signsthat something was wrong with me
out of the, you know, out of theordinary.
I was getting extraordinarily winded and even even in his
neighborhood, I was noticing that, but I went out to I know,
I know everybody or most everybody has seen the some of

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the video from the traffic accident, the body Cam.
And we're going to we're going to be releasing that, I think in
full with this story. And one of the, one of the
things that, you know, I was doing out there was going out
and doing measurements in the street and having to avoid the

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traffic at the time, measuring sidewalk panels then.
And the reason for that, it was we were trying to get, you know,
exact foot measurements because we've had we've had what the FBI
told us the bombers shoe size is.
We've had what the FBI is sayinghis shoe size is.
And we, you know, we want to know ourselves.

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So this is this is an analysis that we were doing.
Yeah, just just so people can understand, there was a traffic
accident where Brian Cole juniorin was it in his Nissan Sentra?
Yes. Rear-ended somebody, What was
the road? What was the road that they were
on? Is it a famous road or like a
big? Road or yeah, it's a big, big
major thoroughfare and and of course you know my my brain is a

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little addled right now but I'm going to I'm.
Going to give you a pass on thatone, Mr. Baker.
But it is. But it is it is quite.
It is quite the thoroughfare andvery busy Rd.
So Cole rear-ended some, you know, some random person and you
guys we we saw scripts, I think news put it out.
You guys did a FOIA request or freedom information, whatever it

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is it Full disclosure kind of thing from from law enforcement.
You got how long is it about 40 minutes about?
48 minutes. OK, so you've got just shy of an
hour worth of footage of him wandering around.
We've shown that. I showed it last week, I want to
say maybe the week before. So if you're familiar with the
the video footage, we did it on Alex Jones program as well,
Infowars folks, you saw maybe 15or 25 seconds something like

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that of Mr. Cole standing there.And even in that short clip, you
can see he seems to have kind ofa tick where he's kind of
ticking his head kind of instinctively while he's filling
out a form. You have the law enforcement
officer talking. He's very flat and affect.
You guys have the long form version where where do you
imagine that you'll put that that video out for people that
want to sit through and? I think, I think we'll be

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releasing that on the Blaze hopefully tomorrow, OK.
And we should be able to and that'll, and also if we do all
of the edits that we have made and analyze we, we did, you
know, where we removed, we stabilized some of the video
because we're talking about bodyCam, you know, so sometimes the
cop is walking and he's walking against Brian Cole walking.

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And so you get a lot of bouncingaround.
So we've been able to do some ofthat, you know, stabilization so
that it it we can see a more fluid walk from Brian cold then
then with the, you know, the body Cam itself self bouncing
around. Got it.
So we we've done we've done quite a bit of work like that.
And then, and when I say we, I mean our, I mean, Joe, Joe and

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Armitage really picked up the the ball in this with me down
last week. And then also we're, we're
getting, you know, we're gettingsome expert help as well.
And I know we'll get into this if, if I can, if I can hang on
long enough. But you know, we're, we're
bringing in our own, you know, experts on this cell tower, the

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cell tower pangs at the FBI haveclaimed they, they've got these
hits on him and then we're bringing in as well.
I mean, look, one thing I haven't even you know, one thing
I haven't even revealed yet is that you might want to put this
on your list is, you know, I theweek before, last week or the

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week before I was in DC doing all these, you know,
measurements and canvassing is Iwas in another state and I got
to sit down for five full hours with the FB is person of
interest #2 and POI #2 means thebomber POI.

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So POI number one, just to bringbring everything into clarity
here, remind everyone POI one isthe hoodie person, the unknown
hoodie person. These are the PO is that were
identified that the FBI had folks and if you're if you're
familiar with the report that I've shared, there's an I'll put
it again. The Loudermilk report went out
in January of 2025 S the beginning of this year, and it

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identified basically three persons of interest.
One was the hoodie bomber. The third was the person that my
surveillance team was assigned watch a door in Virginia, which
just happened to be next door tosomebody that the blaze had had
looked into. And then you're just pointing
out that you got a chance to sitdown with person of interest two
who has, so far, as far as I'm aware, no major media outlet has
identified nor have they spent any time with.

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Correct. I don't know if anybody who has
interviewed him in the last fiveyears other than.
Not. Not even Julie Kelly.
Shock even. Not even Betty Crocker herself.
The as as far as I know, no one other than the two FBI agents
who interviewed him twice the week following you being pulled

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from the doorstep there in FallsChurch, VA.
And POI #3, of course, is the gentleman that Julie Kelly did
interview and he was the guy whoowned the Metro card that was
famously used on the 5th and then also again on the 6th.

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And it was POI too, who was staying with him at the time
that used that card. And, and so I had the, again,
there's so many, we, we, we've had so much help and so much
assistance on this. It's, it would be absolutely
shameful for me or even my own, you know, closest team to take

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all the credit for this. But we've had, we've had
volunteer help, we've had paid help.
Well, we've had expert help. And I actually had and flew in a
retired FBI agent that met me for this particular interview.
And it was, it was kind of an interesting circumstance in that
we, we had, we had an address onthe guy.

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We had phone numbers on the guy,but he spends a lot of time
traveling out of the country. And so our goal was, was to find
someone in his own inner circle that we could meet, become
friendly with and then have themintroduce us to them.

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And that was, you know, that wasjust kind of the game plan And
believe it or not, it worked out.
We we met someone that he was very close to at 9:00 one
morning. This was two, 2 1/2 weeks ago.
Two weeks ago and we met him at 9:00 in the morning and then by

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2:00 that afternoon, I'm sittingin the living room of a couple
and the guy comes over to their house, POI #2, and we interview
him for three hours. And then I spent two more hours
with him in a coffee shop the next day doing follow up
questions with him and learning more about this circumstance and
why he was there, why he was hanging out in the alleys, why

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he was hanging out in the RNC alley, why he got off the metro
changed, you know, kind of, I don't want to say disguise.
He put on warmer weather gear, let's put it that way, and then
immediately beelined it to the RNC alley where he began to take
pictures in the alleyway. And then for some reason, after

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wandering around DC all day and attending some of the 1st
Amendment protest events that were happening on the 5th, just
before he went back to the metroand disappeared in the train
back to Falls Church, he ducked into that alley again and then
placed an empty water bottle. And this is according to the FBI
placed an empty water bottle in the exact trash container which

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was next to where the bomb was found 17 hours later.
Let's do a highline summary if you don't mind.
Mr. Baker, after talking to thisguy 5:00-ish hours, did you feel
like case closed, this guy should be should be no further
questions and and no further scrutiny or were did you leave

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with some questions? Definitely left with some
questions, but he is either a genuinely sincere man who
through one of the greatest coincidences in human history,
ended up where he ended up, and I, I and Kyle, I'm, I'm sorry

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you can't see my face, right? Well, no, I'm not.
I'm glad nobody can see it rightnow.
But this was a series of coincidences stacked upon
themselves, which make it an absolutely astronomical number
that takes him out of any connection to this event.

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But he's either a victim of thatof those improbabilities, or
he's the greatest liar of all time.
And there's more that's potentially more to that story.
All right, I'm going to give youa couple seconds to take a
breath. I want to thank one of our
sponsors and then we're going toget into this document.
Folks, if you're just joining usright now, I've got Steve Baker

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coming in through audio only because he just got out of the
hospital. Steve Baker is an investigative
journalist that works for The Blaze and he is a former J Sixer
himself. He was doing journalistic
activities on January 6th, has abit of a passion project running
down this particular story. The most terroristic thing that
happened on January 6th, the dropping of pipe bombs.
And the FB is interesting namingof a subject after he and his

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team came up with somebody else they thought was more probable
for some reason. We're supposed to just believe
that all the things that we heard for the last, I don't
know, 4 1/2, five years didn't happen.
We're supposed to believe that none of that stuff was going on.
We're supposed to believe that there was in fact no
governmental involvement, including the statements that
were made by the former podcaster and now current the

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and soon to be former deputy director of the FBI and also
Cash Patel statements that were to the contrary.
We're supposed to ignore all of that and all of the weird
circumstances that happened thatseemed to point towards at least
government awareness of what wasgoing on.
Even if it was a big misunderstanding or a mistake or
a some sort of a training accident or a poorly messaged
exercise, which I don't believe is possible on that day, that

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that is stuff we're supposed to just put away.
And I think that when you hear this document, which we're going
to go through, which was filed yesterday, and then the follow
up document, which was filed by the defense is going to really,
really RIP some of the stuff apart.
I don't think the government's case is even strong enough to
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All right, we're going to go back to Steve Baker here.
Mr. Baker, Are you ready to go through this document which was
dumped on us yesterday? Yeah, let's, let's talk about
this. This document kept me up all
night last night. And that's not a good thing

(31:59):
either, right? Now you need to be getting your
rest, my friend. All right, first, let's start
off with the headlines. This is coming from John Solomon
at just the news and agency thatlies to you in their very name,
as I was told by a funny reporter.
J6 pipe bomb subject says he planted the devices because
quote, I really don't like either party.
That highline is actually one ofthe funniest ways to do a
headline in my opinion because we know that the original

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targets of those pipe bombs do not appear to have been
political parties. This seems to be a false
confession and I think that thisdocument is riddled with sort of
self defeating arguments. But this is the one that John
Solomon decided to call out. I'm not going to.
I'm just going to show you the headline folks.
I will link these in the show description or in the the
comments so you can read them. I want to show you ABC also
covering this with their little advertisement here, says alleged

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J6 pipe bomber said he wasn't targeting the congressional
certification of Biden's victory.
That's what the DOJ claims in this particular thing.
So that's their take away from it.
Also accurate. And here's NBC's coverage.
The DC pipe bomber suspect disliked both political parties
and felt violence would be justified, prosecutors say.
So the interesting thing is, is that all of our news outlets
from left to right and the propaganda pieces over at at

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just the news are all honing in on this idea that he wanted to
go after both of them because hethought the political parties
were the issue. There's a real big hole in that
argument. I think Mr. Baker, which is the
original place where the pipe bomber stopped, we're supposed
to ignore apparently that that he was stopping outside of a
boarding house and also the Congressional Black Caucus
Institute. Yeah, let's talk about that.
Does he? Does this black high functioning

(33:32):
autistic kid also hate the Congressional Black Caucus?
That's right. That's right.
Yeah. And then also we're supposed to
ignore the fact that the United States Capitol Police counter
surveillance teams went directlyto the Bush outside that
Congressional Black Caucus Institute with no particular
reason why? No particular reason why, but I

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can also reveal today, this is another bit of a scoop for you
and your listeners, Kyle, is that those two counter
surveillance officers have been recently reinterviewed.
I'm not at liberty yet to give all of the context of everything
that happened and was said in those interviews.
But I will tell you that the investigator who interviewed

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them said that it was, how do I put this it?
It was the most rehearsed and actually, as he said, overacted
testimony he's ever participatedin.
Outstanding. Well, that's good.
I I'd hate for them to to fall short of that.
Our expectations are is that this is a sort of a governmental

(34:36):
type cover up and if that's the case, then we need government
cover up actors. So here we go.
Let's get into today's filing. I've got it up here.
This happened yesterday. It was filed.
I don't know if it says a time on here, so forgive me on that
folks, but it was filed yesterday, December the 28th,
which was the 4th day of Christmas.
Today, the 5th day of Christmas,which is everybody's favorite
part of the song, the five gold rings.

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If you're a long time listener to this program, you can go back
and find I used to play this Eddie Izzard clip.
Steve, where, where, where? Eddie Izzard, you know, you know
the British comedian. Oh yeah, I remember Eddie.
Where? Well.
He, he used to, he did his bit and and I think he did it in
dress to kill coming out of a San Francisco Bay Area.
And he would, he said people would run in from other parts of
the room or other parts of the house just to scream the five

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gold rings part because no one knew the other bits.
So no one knew anything beyond he didn't know about the turtle
doves. You don't know about the the
maid's milking, but you always knew the five.
Gold. Ring.
So it kind of makes me laugh. So this is our 5 gold rings
folks. the United States of America versus Brian J.
Cole Junior. There's the case number and he
is the defendant in the the District Court of the District

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of Columbia. And I'm going to read you a
little bits of it. This is being filed by the
United States Attorney for the District of Columbia.
That's Jeanine Pirro submits this memorandum in the support
of oral motion for defendant Brian Cole junior to be detained
pretrial. Now, there are two things that
are pending and they are pendingfor tomorrow.
One of them is this pretrial detention hearing.

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But the second piece of it, which I guess the government
tried to move backwards, is the preliminary hearing.
And Steve, we've talked about this quite a bit as far as the J
Sixers went, but the FBI doesn'tnormally charge people by
complaint. They chose to charge Brian Cole
by complaint. And so now they face a
preliminary hearing where they have to show probable cause in

(36:26):
front of the judge because nobody evaluated outside of the
the Magistrate Judge and, and the, the affidavit that was
filed, which we've evaluated here on this program to be quite
thin, I think was my word. And I'm going to continue using
it. Well, you know, I was, I was
even subjected to a grand jury investigation.
I, you know, it was. Gosh, it was.

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But that actually makes sense because they had a long time.
They announced they were going to come at you.
January 6th happened a long timeprior.
You knew that at some point in time you were going to have to,
you know, face whatever it was they were going to put at you.
And so they went to a grand juryand they, they indicted you.
That was the whole point. That's what the FBI normally
does in this case for folks awareness.
Five years, No indictment. Charged by complaint.

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It's it's not the way the FBI does business as a regular
course of action. They actually, you know, what
ended up happening with me is because I was only charged with
the four basic misdemeanors, is that apparently the grand jury
didn't see what the FBI was bringing to them and DOJ was
bringing to them because they wanted to nail me with a felony.
And grand juries are not seated for misdemeanor offenses, only

(37:34):
felony offenses. And so even the even the fact
that they took it to the grand jury and I had to, you know,
turn over a bunch of my work in order for them to look at that,
they apparently could not even even even the the previous Biden
DOGDOJFBI couldn't convince thatgrand jury that I was worthy of

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a felony charge. I think they're going to face
similar problems here. Let's read from the government's
motion. It says upon a finding of
probable cause that the defendant violated.
This is Section 844 I I think that's 18 USC 844.
I The bail statute creates a rebuttable presumption that no

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conditions will reasonably assure the community safety if
the defendant is released pending pretrial.
So they're looking to have him held, and they say that he
cannot rebut this presumption considering the extreme and
profoundly serious nature of hiscrimes, the overwhelming
evidence of his guilt and the years he spent deceiving those
around him to avoid accountability, the intolerable
risk he will again resort to violence to express his

(38:38):
frustration with the world around him.
Pretty interesting claims. Let's do a little bit on the
background, folks. So they actually sort of copied
and pasted a chunk of the background from the complaint
affidavit. This says that on December the
4th, he was arrested. That was of this year.
The complaint was unsealed charging him with violations of
18 USC 844 D and I Delta and India.

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Those are the transportation of the explosive device and the
attempt to use an explosive device to destroy a building.
I'm paraphrasing a little bit. The defendant made his initial
appearance where they just basically read him the charges
and said, you know, we've read you the charges, but he didn't
enter a plea as I understand it.And then he was held pending a
detention hearing and waiting for counsel.

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Now, This is why this, this document is so interesting.
This is the first time we're getting a look at the actual
confession, or at least the, the, the elements that were
built into the confession and what the, what the government is
going to use in their case. And so here they are, they say
on January the 5th, 2021, the charges against the defendant

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arise from his manufacturing, transport, transporting and
planting of two pipe bombs in downtown Washington, DC on
January 5th, 2021. We always kind of say the J6
pipe bomber, but in reality, this was stuff that was supposed
that was planted on the night ofthe 5th starting at about
7:30-ish. Is that about right, Steve?
And going to about 818? Those are the kind of the
critical moments that people need to be aware of that

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timeline. Yeah, it's 730 fours.
When the hoodie bomber first appeared on surveillance cameras
and then disappeared at 8:18, there was a 8 minute gap from
exactly 8 O clock to 8 O 8 wherethe bomber also went off camera.

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Where even the FBI supports One of our long, long time theories
is that the bomber only carried one bomb at a time and then
managed to either hook up with an accomplice or get back to his
or her car near or at Folger Park during that 8 minute gap.

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And after placing the DNC pipe bomb, then loaded what would
then become the RNC or the Capitol Hill Club bomb.
All right, so they mentioned that the two bombs are placed at
approximately 7:54 PM for the DNC, so about 20 minutes worth
of wandering on camera before the 1st placement on that
includes the the stall and delayat the Bush that we've shown you
guys ample footage of where the Capitol Police officers looked

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the next day but found nothing only to find the bombs a few
minutes later. And then he also planted the
second bomb at approximately 816per this complaint or this this
filing rather. The two locations are about .2
miles apart and in between them are two parks, one of them being
Folger Park. That's going to come into play
in just minute. So we're going to go on.
They identified the defendant driving his 2017 Nissan Sentra

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entering, exiting the Capital South Street exit of Interstate
395. There's a NS route of 395 and
Capitol St. S Capitol Street kind of runs
along there. Passed a license plate reader
that recorded his vehicle and tag information at 7:10 PM.
This is on January the 5th. Approximately 24 minutes later
at 7:34, we have the first videofootage.
What that tells us, at least it tells me from what they're

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filing here, they don't have other video footage, which would
include parking the vehicle, thelocation of the vehicle and the
sort of, and exiting the vehiclewearing the clothes that we
would expect, which I think would be a lot closer to, I
think would be more than circumstantial.
This is kind of what they're, the argument they have here is
they're basing it on his confession of that's where he

(42:13):
was. And I'm, I'm very skeptical of
that. I'm going to keep reading on
here, Steve, while you kind of take a couple of breaths.
Video captured the the defendantwas holding a backpack and held
in his hand was wearing distinctive Nike Air Max Speed
turf shoes and a face mask and ahood that obscured his face.
All right, so they put a filing in of the person.
This is person of interest, one that they allege is Brian Cole

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Junior. I'm going to allege is not Brian
Cole Junior. And one of the fun things is, is
that for a long time the FBI is fixated on these shoes.
They are addressed in this for the first time in a way that is
not satisfactory to me. It probably will not be to you.
I'll give you guys the the read and then we'll give you the
analysis on it as well, All right.
Footage shows that the defendantwho investigators from the
Federal Bureau of Investigation based on height analysis

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estimated to be 5 foot 7 inches tall with an error rate of ±1.1
inch put on eyeglasses scanning the area depicted below.
This is that video that we've also shown you.
I've gone on info with wars withit.
I've played it here. This is a video that we think
actually indicates that these are at not prescription
eyeglasses but potentially sunglasses to obscure.

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And I think we fleshed this out pretty well, but I'll just do it
real quickly The, and in fact, Imay play that in just a second
for if Steve needs another break.
Essentially, there are two reasons that you would put on
eyeglasses. If you put on spectacles, the
way that you see Steve's picturewearing right now, you put them
on to clarify the image of what's going on.
Your eye doesn't focus properly and things appear blurry if
you're nearsighted, which I usedto be.

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So you put them on and the idea would be that you can see the
world around you better and that's a safety mechanism so you
can identify threats and so on. The other reason you might put
on darkened lenses would be to obscure your your visual so that
people can't see you. So 1 is so that you can perceive
the world better and the other is so that the world can
perceive you less. And what we see in that that
particular video that is on thatstill is grabbed right there.

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And if you give me a SEC, I probably can go grab it.
The the differential would be that you would necessarily want
to make sure that you put your eyeglasses on clean, smudge free
and so on to be able to identifysomebody in the dark walking
towards you. In this case, the the visual
that we see on screen right now is just before somebody with a
dog walks from the left side of the screen across to the right.

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And what we see instead is that the hooded figure takes the
glasses off, cleans them once, puts them on and then goes to
basically clean them again. But notices this dog Walker and
so leaves a hand on the bridge or the arm of the glasses, kind
of turns away with the with the glasses on and then when the dog
Walker leaves, pulls them off again and cleans them, which is

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not logical behavior for someonewho wears spectacles.
Steve, I'll give you a SEC to kind of weigh in on that if you
like. And then I'm going to try to
find the video so we can show people too.
Scroll back up to the previous image above this one.
Yeah, you got it. Let's talk about that for a
moment. This is a little bit off topic
of the glasses, but this will give you an idea of what I was
doing last week or the week before a week and a half ago.

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Is you see those bricks in the alley behind the RNCI was we we
found some very clean footage offrom a ring camera actually of
the bomber so that we were able to get precise measure a precise
clear screenshots from the videoof the bomber's foot and shoes.

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And so I was actually one night.See what night was it?
It was, it was Friday, week and a half ago.
I was in this alley after 10:00 PM, after 10:00 PM, folks at
night in the dark measuring withthe tape measure those bricks
and actually went because because in the Ring camera, I

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was able to see exactly the backs of the apartments that we
were that the, the, the bomber was shot at from the Ring
camera. I was able to go to those that
exact location and measure thosebricks.
And then the one thing that I was brand new to me that I had

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never noticed. Now, of course, I've watched all
of the available footage. I know that most people have not
done that. They've only seen the, you know,
the 1530 seconds total that the FB is ever released of the, of
the bomber. And most of that footage that
they've seen of the alleged bomber is there at the DNC where

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the, the frame rate has been horribly altered down to 1, you
know, 1 frame per second. And so, but in this particular
incident here, the, I believe itwas The Washington Post had been
able to secure that camera rightthere before the FBI was able to

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alter it. Interesting.
Yeah. So we have we have a side by
side of this particular camera unaltered.
We have the side by side of the FB is altered version of it.
But because there is in the out there in the in the world the
unaltered version, we get to watch this individual in a very

(47:17):
athletic move moving around thatthat corner.
All right, so so when the when the bomber moves around the
corner, this is at the exact moment where the placement of
the bomb is determined to happen.
The bomb is moving directly to that spot.

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Now, if you go back to the imagejust real quickly, sure.
All right, so you have if you look at the left shoulder, the
the the that that would be the the gloved hand without the
backpack. I can move over over that left
shoulder about 40 feet to the left is the actual security

(47:59):
booth where the security guard is main is housed 24 hours a day
outside of the RNC. OK.
And there's a reason why that inthis particular image that I
didn't catch until I was there last Friday a week ago at after
10:00. I never knew that that security

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shack, guard shack was there. And so the reason why the bomber
is moving with such athletic determination here, unlike the
rest of the night, the rest of the night is a very, very casual
stroll. But in this moment, it's because
the bomber knew the bomber had to get around that corner and

(48:44):
get out of the sight of line of the guard shack.
Now interestingly, the guard shack, the way the where the the
guards computer monitor set up is actually facing the other
direction. So this person already knew this
Kyle. And was just basically we're

(49:05):
talking about eliminating the time of exposure to a potential
over shoulder look kind of. Thing exactly what was happening
there and all of the sudden thiswhen I saw that last Friday in
the evening and I saw it and it's like you know it's like one
of those you know the light the light bulb goes out and you

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understand why the bomber was moving with such determination
at this moment now we're going to have to be asked by the DOJ
by the FBI to believe that this kid Brian Cole knew all of that
in advance at. The very minimum had an
awareness of the guard shack andunderstood that there was a

(49:46):
possibility of being seen at that point and therefore had to
had to move. Despite the fact that anybody
who's seen him and and people that I've talked to and you have
as well, you know, walking around the neighborhood said
that he basically lives in a world of his own.
And this has been widely reported by various different
news outlets left and right. You know, nobody with an agenda.
All that's troubling. I want to put the the loop video
up here. This is the this is the eyeglass

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video where the DOJ is now alleging that this shows a set
of eyeglasses and scanning of the area That may be what it
shows. Steve, I've got you off, off
picture here. So we can kind of maximize the
size, but the the pipe bomber's moving from left to right on the
screen right now, pauses and then does this sort of logical
sets down the backpack, turns around and then cleans glasses,

(50:28):
which a lot of people thought was answering a cell phone.
If you snip it just right, it looks like someone's looking at
a phone, but cleans glasses, puts them back on.
And if your glasses were not clean after you tried to clean
them, would you not want to go back and make sure that they
were clean before somebody walked right up on you?
Is it, am I you'd want them off so you don't have the fuzz and
the, and the, and the blur. I mean, this is just, we're,
we're speculating on how people operate, but that's how I

(50:49):
operate. I don't like having my eyes
obscured by hazy glass. I'd rather just go with whatever
my native vision is and squint. Right, right.
And I say that as a guy who was in the military with with, you
know, the BCGS, the birth control glasses, which are
horrifically bad. I wore them through Sears.
Cool. Had my my vision very, very
obstructed in the woods. And if I had to take them like

(51:10):
between a foggy set of glasses that had smudges on them or no
glasses at all, I'll go no glasses at all while I clean
them and find something dry. That was just that was my move.
So again, this this kind of is Armitas making the speculation
that this video actually shows something meant to obscure the
face rather than clean up the vision of somebody who has a a

(51:30):
visual impairment. So I went that night on that
that Friday a week and a half ago, I went and knocked on the
guard shack. Oh really?
Yeah, I knocked on the window and guard spun around.
Now remember the guard is the guard station and his position
with his own screen monitors arefacing away from this position

(51:54):
where we saw the bomber moving around that corner.
Yeah. And, and so I knocked on the
window and he, he opened the window and I, I introduced
myself and told him what I was doing out there.
And he was got excited. He got out of the he came out of
the booth and wanted to talk. Turns out he is the actual guard
that was first notified. He he was on duty not on the

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evening of the 5th, but he was on duty on the morning in the
afternoon of the 6th. So he was there when the bomb
was discovered is. He the one that made the call,
then that that went off. That he was the first one that
it was reported to and, and he's, you know, like he said, he
said that was, he said that was a day he'll never forget and he,
you know, he went into a lot of detailed description about how

(52:38):
that whole thing unfolded, but super, super nice guy.
And so I, I did something that, you know, I've not done very
often, but I showed him a coupleof videos and he went, Oh my
God. He said, this is, it's not the

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kid, is it? I said no, it's not the kid.
I think any reasonable person's going to see that and DOJ is
going to have some real problemsvery shortly when they try to
put this in front of a judge again, I'm, I'm I want to punch
through this. We're on page 4 of 23.
So folks, bear with me as we continue through here.
Steve and I are known to to talka long time, but I'm I'm more
worried about your, your health than I am getting through some

(53:20):
of this stuff. So they go on and they talk
about this one is actually really critical.
Approximately 739 and 27 seconds.
This is where they get into the phone pings.
Folks, there's a lot of problemshere and there's a great map
that we're going to show you, which is going to be familiar if
you're, if you're not new to this program, OK?
It says that is the first 5 minutes after the defendant was
captured on video surveillance, which was again right around

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730-5734. You've got a cell phone
interacting with two cell phone towers consistent with him being
at the intersection of D Street and South Capitol St.
SE. Let me say what this is, Steve,
you've been doing some, you've been doing some some background
on this. And so you can kind of check my

(54:01):
math. What they've done here is
they've said we need for this subject to be at a place on the
grid. And so we are going to tell you
that it's consistent with being there, but it's not just
consistent with being there, it's consistent with being
within 1000 meters or more of there.
So a circular kilometer in and around that, that little area

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and most of it actually is not close to D St.
SE and S capital. What it actually is close to is
1000 meters to the West of that and South.
And so their claim that they're making here, as far as I can
tell, is that it could be this person, but only because they
needed to be this person to be able to make these claims.
Is that am I saying that in a way that makes sense?

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Yeah, that's that's essentially what's happening here is that
I'm. Going to scroll to the map so
people can see. It I will I will tell you that
after sitting through several ofthese January 6 trials and
seeing the are listening to the absolute precision and

(55:08):
scientific certainty of how theytraced and tracked some of these
people using, you know, this, this tower technology.
Now some of it was tracked usingGPS, Google, you know, that sort
of thing, ad ID, which are whichof course is all much more
accurate. But what I have learned since we
began studying this specificallyrelated to the Brian Cole case

(55:32):
is that if we're if we're setting a standard in this
country when we're talking legally of beyond a reasonable
doubt, nothing about this technology satisfies that
nothing. So that is the standard less

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people think that we're, we're picking something up that the
standard is, is beyond a reasonable doubt that no
reasonable person would doubt that the, that the individual
actually committed the crime. In this case, what they've made
the claim is, is that somebody was in, if you look at where
these arms are on the screen. And folks, if you're not
watching on Spotify or if you'renot listening or, you know,
watching us on, on, on Rumble orYouTube, you're missing out on

(56:14):
the visual here. Which I do think is critical for
this particular case because these are exhibits that are
being put in the government's own document.
And they look suspiciously similar to the stuff that we had
set up to be able to show peopleexactly where these towers are.
And it's almost identical to theone that Armitas put together
for Blaze and has been cited andI've put out on social media
before. In fact, you make sure I have

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the right one. But I'm also going to show you
guys a very similar, a very similar drawing, which was done
not by the government in this case, but by private individuals
who are mapping this information.
So here we go. I've actually got this for you
here too. So now you guys look this the
government's Exhibit T-Mobile data sessions January 5th, and
you'll notice it is very, very similar, although the

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government's 1 is a little bit snazzier looking.
This one is a dark mode view of the exact same towers and with a
little bit less precise lineage is all I would say on there.
But essentially we're looking atthe same thing.
They're showing the same fields.Now the issue with what the
government is presenting is thatat at there was a tower ping at

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one, 3927 seconds from tower oneand tower 2 on the screen,
there's another ping from tower 4, I'm sorry, from tower two at
744, so 5 minutes later. But all of these run around sort
of this, this basic issue that these are huge 120° thousand

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plus yards in in all directions sectors.
They're 1/3 of of the map movingout from a single point.
And these are not precise, not even a little bit precise.
Oh, and, and the science will, you know, tell you we're, and
we, we're, when we're talking about the science, we're talking
about the FBI cast experts. I think there's at any one time

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you can correct me on this, Kyle, if I'm wrong, but at any
one time, there's about 60 to 80experts in this particular
science within the FBI that that's nationwide, not not in
DC. Yeah, it might even be smaller
than that, to be honest. I don't, I don't.
It's not a big group. It's a very small group.
The the the headquarters people are usually they're assigned to
headquarters, but they may work in various field offices and

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they can live in other places. And yeah, they do really
specialized work on here. But this is.
And on what we've been able to gather from these experts, the
FBI retired is that it's so imprecise as, as I said, not to
meet the standard of beyond reasonable doubt.

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And that's, that's, that's with pings that they get both within
the the vectors or the azimuths or things they get outside of
them. There's, there's no way.
And then, and then there's the problem of not only distances
from where the ping is, but fromalso where we think we know

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where our subject really is. So it's the acute location
versus the real location. Folks, I want you to look at the
screen here again, if you're listening, I would love it if
you guys were watching on Spotify because you're gonna be
able to see this. But essentially, there's a
north-south road here and this is South Capitol St.
SE that you're seeing where my cursor is running right there.
Just off to the right or just off to the east over here is

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where the the DNC is. It's this blue dot.
And then if you move over 2 blocks and up one, you'll see
just north of that is where you've got the RNC in this red
dot O. These are the two dots that are
in play, which means the square of reference is here, which is
second St. down to about East St. if memory serves.
We're going to go to South Capital St.
You'll see that the New Jersey Ave.

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SE cuts in between and then the top side here is C Charlie.
So C Charlie down to D Delta andE Echo.
These are the three streets running north-south and then the
east West from starting from theWest, S Capitol New Jersey and
then finally 2nd St. SE.
These are the kind of the squareof operations where we need to
find the pipe bomber. Now all you need to know is.

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Between the hours of let's say 734, when the pipe bomber
appears on camera roughly here where my at this New Jersey and
E Street. Am I correct in that, Steve?
Is it about New Jersey and E? Yeah, OK.
Down here. That's where the pipe bomber
appears at 7:34 and then disappears forever right up here
at the corner roughly of C St. and 2nd St.

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That's or is it D St. It doesn't make a difference
over here at 2nd St. and and. And.
This is our Far East boundary here.
This is where the pipe bomber disappears forever.
There's two parks here, one of which I cannot recall the name
of. Garfield Park is the southern
park. And then Folger Park is going to
be sighted right here and it applies to D St.

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SE. So for those of you looking at
this map, I think this is reallycritical.
If the pipe bomber is in this area on camera between 7:34 and
8:18, which is what the the government claims.
And Brian Cole is anywhere outside in, including in the
overlapping areas where these cell phone ping towers.
Because you'll notice this pink tower goes here and you could be

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literally right out here, which is a, a place that would hit
every single one of those cell phone pings if you were in this
space during that time. The government's case is dead on
arrival if he's anywhere other than the areas they need him to
be are our chat. Rose Lopez is our chat moderator
over on on Rumble and pointed out you're basically taking a

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puzzle piece that sort of fits and cramming it in kind of when
you have like the almost shape, it's a heart shape, but just you
shove it into the Oval shaped area.
You can make it fit, but only because you need it to fit.
And that's essentially what I think the government is doing
with this argument. We're going to go a little
further into this document sincewe're on page 7 right now and I
want to make sure we get the really important stuff.
The pipe bombs that were plantedby the RNC did not detonate as

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intended. They're making a big, they're
making a big claim here that they were intended to detonate.
I just let you guys know that's required for the statutory
charges they brought. They weren't discovered until
approximately 1:00 PM on Januarythe 6th.
The hazardous device section of the United States Capitol Police
responded and performed render safe procedures on both devices.
And kind of skip over that for now.

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There's more to that story as well, which Steve has covered
the FBSS to. The 2 vices were IEDs that
contained a main explosive charge, a fusing system, and a
container. They also assessed that they had
a hard metal container, which was metal pipe nipples and end
caps, which showed that the whippin characteristics were
present. They're really, really dancing
around this folks, because they used the word viability 3 times

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in this document. The words viability are required
because they made-up their own standard.
Viability is not a thing we talkabout when we talk about
explosives, they say, and we've had that.
Even the Loudermilk report said it previously.
They talk about whether it was designed as a hoax or whether it
was designed to function as it was built.
And viability is not something that we discussed and we know

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they weren't viable because theydidn't go off.
That's the simplest answer. The word viable means.
Nothing. I know they weren't viable
because. I was briefed on that.
You were briefed. On it.
As as were others who can actually substantiate at the
time. So this is the problem with with
something that has already happened and people who have
good memories and it turns out that when you hire folks to be

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FBI agents, you know the sort ofthing that they might recall
being put on a pipe bomber case.I wasn't the only person that
was briefed this. There were other agents that
were involved, the person that gave the briefing.
And then it went broader than that.
Even friends of mine who have worked in the outer parts of the
FBI but had contact with what's called the special agent bomb
technician, it's a whole group of people that do this
specialized job. It went out quite broadly that

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these were inert devices, that they were looking very bomb
like, but not bombs. Or as our buddy Steve Friend
likes to say, the bombs would have been bombs if they've been
bombs, which is us being flippant about this.
But this is really what their, their, their charge actually
hinges on because they have an alleged ideology.
They haven't alleged any sort ofterrorism.
What they're saying is that these are destructive devices.

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And the FBI explosives examiner assessed that the pipe bombs
were constructed using all the components necessary to explode
and that they were viable explosive devices, even though
that's not a standard that the FBI actually uses.
And it gets worse from here, people.
So this was the strongest part of the FBI's argument, as I
understand it. They mentioned the, the, the

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diagrams. These are some of the things
that you guys have seen. I'll link this, this particular
document so you guys can find it.
I'll post the PDF over on localsat kyleseraphin.com if you want
to read it. It's not mine to share other
than, you know, it's public record now.
So we're going to put this out there.
Let's keep moving through some of these things.
This is why I think this is sucha dumb case and why I think they
probably already disproved it. The FBI obtained records for the
defendant's checking account andthree of his credit cards for

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the time period of January 2018 to January of 2021.
They mentioned this in the complaint as well.
There are three additional credit cards that were obtained
between January 18 and November of 2025.
The FBI reviewed transaction history for all of these
accounts. I actually don't know how they
decided this was a good method, but what they did is they argued

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that he bought bomb making of materials.
They found his pings generally in Washington, DC and his car
hit on a license plate reader and that constitutes probable
cause. I don't think a judge will see
that when this is actually brought in.
Here's why this is so crazy, y'all.
This is the list of information.This is the list of pieces that

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were purchased and they are listed in this particular
document on page 10. A 9 Volt battery connector.
A timer. This is a kitchen timer.
The there were two of them purchased in June of 2020 from
Walmart. These kitchen timers, they were
59 Volt battery connectors, which were purchased in November

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and December of 2019. So he was mad at both political
parties. He thought that the the election
was rigged and stolen. And he decided that in November
of 2019 so he could start building his pipe bombs, what, a
year earlier before the election, Steve.
Yeah. This is the argument they're
making. Yeah, exactly.
Year and a half. This is why.
OK, so this is fun. So these are all bought before

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the actual bomb was placed. And so you have the materials
necessary. You have an 8 inch pipe, 8 inch
pipe with nipple on each end. You've got that, which is just
means it's threaded. You've got the the iron, the
black iron end caps. You have galvanized end caps.
There were 12 of the black ones and they were two of the
galvanized ones. They were all purchased in early
2020. You've got red wiring and blue
wiring and black wiring, sorry, red and black wiring and

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multiple different lengths were bought 350 feet, 150 feet, 100
feet and 100 feet at home depotsand Lowe's over a period of two
years. And for me, the wild part of it
is, is that they probably used agrand total of what, 3 feet in
the entirety of both pipes, But but more needed to be bought.

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There's some steel wool which was bought in December of 2020
and some sulfur, which was bought on Amazon in 2018.
Folks, January 14th of 2018. This is the first time I've seen
this particular purchase added. He bought sulfur in a, in a jar
or in a, in some sort of a, you know, plastic dispenser from
Amazon, a 1 LB amount of sulfur.That's the first piece of the

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charcoal bomb making sort of, you know, black powder stuff.
And they haven't made any claimsthat he bought previously.
So this is all wild. Here's where I think this falls
apart. I'm going to let Steve take a
deep breath at the top of this one.
The government says after planting the pipe bombs on
January 5th, 2021, the defendantcontinued to purchase bomb

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making components as illustratedbelow.
The last identified purchase occurred on August the 13th of
2022. People, what the government
wants to make the argument is that not only did he build these
bombs years in advance of the anger that he had over the
election, he then continued to buy bomb making materials to

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include another timer. And this one I think is the most
damning and stupid from Walmart just like the others.
On 1/21 of 2021, three weeks after the J6 pipe bomb happens,
he goes out and buys another kitchen timer and he also goes
out and buys more pipe. It's because he's a genius.

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He's a absolute criminal genius.He wants to if you're.
Going to if you're going to cut any parts of this, folks, this
is the, this is the cut, the cutthat you should be doing.
Look at this. The government claims that a
person who got away with dropping 2 pipe bombs in the
nation's capital which did not detonate and was able to elude

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the FBI for five years, bought more bomb making materials
within three weeks of that. Went on January the 21st of 2021
to buy another kitchen timer. Went back to Home Depot to buy
more 8 inch pipe on 1/20/22. Sorry, on 1/22 of 2021.

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So that's again three weeks after, then again in March of
21, then again in October of 21,and also in August of 2022, and
more end caps. This guy, apparently, this is
the actual purchase history of Brian Cole.
Junior was compulsively buying pieces that would be able to
build pipe bombs after getting away with it.

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The problem is, is that his own statement in the confession,
which the government lays out, contradicts this buying history.
And we cannot believe that what he's saying makes sense.
So now we're going to go to the best part, I think is maybe of
of any of this, which is the confession.
This is the first time that we've seen this and we're
halfway into. This is the part Kyle that upset

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me so much last night is I thinkthe best way I could describe
this when I read through it was either old crime dramas where
people were being scapegoated, framed Patsy's set up and where
it was a really, really weak individual.
You know the guy that you know, they've got him under the light,

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they're sweating him out, you know, and, and, and he and he's
not a good guy. There's something else wrong in
his background, whatever. But as I read through this, I
was looking at a fucking Hollywood script.
And I'm, I apologize for that, but that's why I couldn't sleep
last night when I read this, is that they have manipulated this

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mind. Not 100%.
Look, look, look, let's let's let's be honest, high
functioning autistic people can have superpowers.
We all know about that. I mean, they can do sometimes
they can do incredible. In fact, some, some autistic
individuals who have no capability of interacting in
public or within in society whatsoever have insane

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superpowers. Yeah.
And and so it it as I looked at this, though, and you see them,
I all I could see was that, you know, that hot and I know it's
Hollywood, but I could see that hot light over his head and he's
being sweated and they're holding the water from him.

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You know, you got the the pack of cigarettes, you know, answer
another question. I'll give you a cigarette.
You know what I'm saying? This is the I'm reading this bad
being in my. 80s TV drama. It's 60s or 70s television. 50s
B movie, you know, come on, drama and in black and white.
And that's what I'm seeing here.And as I'm reading this, I'm

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becoming more and more and more offended by it, and more and
more offended and appalled that these agents of our government,
agents of the FBI, felt a need to go there.
It's going to get worse when people understand why this
bothered you so much. So I'm going to get into the
confession part of it right now.There's a couple of things that

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I'm going to call out that are really, really interesting to
me. December 4th, 2025, law
enforcement executed an arrest warrant for the defendant and
took him into custody. Search warrants were executed at
the defendant's person or on hisperson, his home, and his Nissan
Sentra, and his workplace in Fairfax, VA.
But interestingly enough, they didn't seize the vehicle.
That's bizarre. And you can confirm that, right,
Steve? You saw the vehicle was outside

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of his home. With my own eyes a week and a
half ago. Completely bizarre.
The the Samsung cellular device that was seized from the
defendant's person at the time of his arrest or there was a
Samsung cellular device. OK, so he had a cell phone.
The forensic review of the device context showed that
between December of 2020 and December of 2025, the device

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recorded 943 events identified as a factory reset.
They put the word a wipe, which is a colloquial term including a
wipe approximately 3 hours before the defendant's arrest on
December the 4th of 2025. All right people, let's get real
serious about this because this is the first stupid, stupid,

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stupid, foolish thing that they put in here that undermines
their own case in their own defection, you know, their own
expose of the of the confession.He had a cell phone and it was
factory reset or wiped December of 2020.
That's before the pipe bomb was placed and also wiped 942 other

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times. Now that might sound like a very
concerned and guilty conscience person who is doing some sort of
a logical action to try to make sure that his online activity
and his cell phone is not traceable by law enforcement.
I'm going to roll down here because it's always in the
footnote where you hide the lie,so here it is on page 12.

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The first factory reset took place on December the 15th,
2020. That's before, right?
He went and supposedly dropped pipe bombs in Washington DC on
January the 5th. The next such event did not
occur until July 15th of 2022. There's an almost 18 month gap
between these two factory resetsto the point where they have

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nothing to do with the case at all.
And they included it because it sounds damning to someone who's
not paying attention and doesn'tread the footnote.
But the minute you read the footnote, you realize that
apparently he dropped pipe bombsand then didn't worry about this
for 18 months before he did it again.
That that is the stupidest argument I've ever seen.
I don't know how they thought this was even a plausible thing

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to put out there. I'm going to add one more thing
to it, Steve, before you react to it.
Here's a little little AI summary of how online addiction
could tie into this is. This was given to me by Armitas
this morning, so I want to give credit where it's due.
Yeah, compulsive digital cleaning as a ritual.
Some people with severe online addictions, especially when they
have comorbidities with autism, anxiety or OCD like traits, will

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develop an extreme habit around privacy, shame or control.
And this can include repeatedly deleting history, clearing apps,
or in rare escalations go to full device resets or start
fresh to hide traces of excessive use, whether it be
from porn or gaming or forums orother things.
Guilt and shame cycles in behavioral addictions often
drive other over the top concealment efforts, even if

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they are ineffective in the longterm.
And there is a a known tie to autism spectrum disorder
frequently overlapping with Internet addictions.
And then this sort of wiping behavior could also be tied to
that. But the fact that there was no
wipe that took place after the apparently guilty incident of
dropping these pipe bombs is a massive shot through the middle
of this this governmental case as far as I can tell.

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And I have no idea why they evenincluded this in this in this
briefing here. Now this, this is we, we got,
we, we passed around a screen image.
And again, I apologize for beinga little slow on the uptake
here, but we passed around a screen image a couple of weeks
ago after this arrest of Brian Cole, you know, of a book, an

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actual book that deals with the high confession rate of autistic
individuals. Just start there.
And we're we're not even here here.
We're getting into the guilt aspects of what what whatever it
is, you know, online pornographyor, or some other, you know.
Or even someone that wanted to like go to bomb making forums if

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you're involved in people that are doing dumb things.
By the way, those are probably all infiltrated.
By this talk about that, OK, youknow, I grew up in an era and I
I hate going and you're playing the old guy here.
But you know, I had friends thathad bombed.
You know, you ordered them online.
It wasn't online at the time. You went to the back of a
magazine, might be Mad magazine,it might be a science magazine.

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But you ordered bomb making kitsand the Postal Service delivered
them to your home, right? And then my friends in the
corner of the room would build little bitty, you know, bombs of
various sizes and shapes and complexities of that sort of
thing. And then we would go out and
blow shit up. Yeah, this happened and you

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lived in Louisiana at the time where people might do that.
People do it in Utah, People do it in Wyoming, Montana.
There's places in Texas where people, I mean, we, we have a
family member who, who passed away that told us that they,
they actually created her pool in Bedrock in the 1960s or 70s.
And they did so by dynamiting and blasting through the rock.

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And that happened. And what they did is they laid
chain link fencing over the top of the rocks that they were
going to blow up. So they didn't go through the
house and then they just blastedholes in the, in the bedrock.
And that's where they ended up putting the pool into the
ground. And that happened as recently
as, like I said, the 1970s in Texas, it's not uncommon for
people to be able to use explosives all over the place.
And so The funny thing is, is that there are all kinds of

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forms where people discuss this stuff.
And you don't have to be in America to be able to be on the
Internet. You also could be in the FBI, it
turns out, and they could be outthere feeding these online
communities to do some really bad stuff.
But again, I'm going to go back to this little section here of
these purchases. These were all made after every
single one of these purchases of50 feet of wire in red and
black. More steel wool, more alligator
clips, more galvanized end caps,more 8 inch pipe, and another

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kitchen time were all made afterhe apparently dropped two
successful bombs and got away with it in Washington DC as
starting as little as three weeks after the fact.
This is a completely illogical argument being made that he has
some sort of like compulsion forOPSEC or what we call
operational security. And at the same time that he
also is so dumb that he waited 17, you know, 18 months before

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wiping his phone after doing these things and drove around
with all this information out there, which was easily
gettable. I'm going to keep going, but I
just want you to know that's thefirst massive hole that I saw.
And one of the wildest parts of this, this little admission here
is that they found all this stuff.
You know, that's fine. They also mentioned that they
did a video recorded interview, folks.

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They interviewed this guy for four hours.
And as is very uncommon in a lotof FBI interviews, the interview
which was video recorded, the defendant initially denied
manufacturing, transporting and planting the pipe bombs and he
did so for two hours as they beaten down.
He, he did a written, a written waiver of his Miranda rights and

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he was interviewed for multiple hours.
Here's the real problem with this.
He has to be competent to be able to actually waive those
Miranda rights for this to actually have any validity
whatsoever. And I think there's a real
strong statement that we've heard from people who knew him,
people who were around him, including people who just sort
of interacted with him in a in the public, that this guy didn't
have the confidence to actually do that.

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And if he did, we're going to have a problem if they find that
he actually had no understandingof what was going on for two
hours. He denied it and they broke him
over 2 hours. We're going to get into that
piece as well. But they said they asked him
about his whereabouts. He said he drove his Nissan
Sentra into DC. He attended A protest concerning
the outcome of the election. And then he says these things
and we don't know where these happened in the interview, which

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is why this is kind of interesting and might be
deceptive because it doesn't saythat this happened in some sort
of logical fashion. They didn't, they didn't give
you a transcript of the interview to to evaluate the
defendant explained. I didn't agree with what people
were doing, just like telling half the country that they that
their that they just need to ignore it.

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I didn't think it was a good idea, so I went to the protest.
It doesn't sound like somebody who's telling you something in
confidence. So I'm just going to tell you
that when this actual video put,I mean, I, if it was me, I'd
play the first two hours of this, of this 4 hour video
interrogation and then I would show exculpatory information
showing that he wasn't maybe there.

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That's it, whether it be from DoorDash or anything else.
Kyle, you tell you tell me this because you've been there,
you've been in the room. I I haven't done this, but if
they've done any background on this kid whatsoever, OK, let's
let's just assume for a moment that he was one of those 186

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pings are in interested phone numbers going back five years.
And let's assume that going backall that time ago they
eliminated him for some reason. Maybe they are limited to
eliminated him from consideration because of his
mental limitations and if they've done any background on
him whatsoever. If they even had a surveillance

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squad out, which we know they didn't deploy one to like oh God
it was. Yeah, November.
Yeah, 5 or 8 days after, you know, our first story on this
series came out and if they're watching the kid at all and then
do this interview without an attorney present, without.

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Here's where we know it's a realproblem.
Determining him competent. This has to be thrown out,
doesn't it Kyle? Well, we've seen that they
allowed him to keep his headphones on, which I've never
seen somebody be able to keep personal.
Effects mug shot. During his mug shot, yeah.
So during the processing and I'm, I'm sure they wanted
compliance, which is what you'd want.
You want your subject not to lose their mind.
But if he was going to lose his mind because you took his
headphones, that tells you who you're dealing with or what,

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what level of functionality you have.
We're going to keep reading through this because this is
this. I mean, we're just getting into
the meat of how ridiculous this stuff is.
But his own words, I don't thinkthey incriminate him.
I think they are exculpatory in a very big way.
I think it all it does is it punches holes in what the
government tried to put together.
And again, we don't know where these occurred in the
discussion, whether these were at the one hour mark, the two

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hour mark 2, you know, three. My, here's my supposition.
This is Kyle Seraphin's analysis.
So take it for what it's worth. I think they took this guy in.
He denied it for two hours because he didn't do it.
And then I think they threatenedhim, which they mentioned
threatening him in this particular document.
They threatened him with the felony, an additional felony of
lying to the FBI, which is a, a,a 1001 charge, 18 USC 1001,

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false statements. And at that point, he basically
caved and copped at everything. They gave him 20 more minutes to
sit by himself and Stew. Then they came back in and
collected what they needed and he essentially agreed to
everything that they needed, including things that are
completely illogical and you andI know to be false, Steve.
And so will his defense team very shortly.
So here it goes. He says he didn't agree with it.
Apparently this was about politics.

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Again. You have to remember that
starting all the way back in 2018, he's buying sulfur and
he's buying bomb making equipment and he's buying clips
from Micro Center. But he didn't agree with the
election. So that's what's going on here.
Then he goes on and they just basically try to address all of
the bullshit that they've been sold.
OK. And it looks like this the the

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defendant has never been an openly political person and
doesn't discuss politics with his family to avoid conflict.
They know that his family is a very left-leaning.
According to the defendant, no one knows his political views
including his family. The defendant stated that he
does not align politically with his family members and doesn't
and did not tell them he was going to a protest in support of
then President Trump. Now, this looks like something I

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don't even know why you would. All right.
Later in the interview, the defendant explained that after
the 2020 election, when it firstseemed like something was wrong
and stuff started happening. Their words, not mine, they're
quoting him. He began following the issue
closely on YouTube and Reddit and felt bewildered.

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In the defendant's view, if people, quote, feel that, you
know, something as important as voting in the federal election
is being tampered with is being,you know, being, you know,
relegated null and void, then like someone needs to speak up,
right? Someone up top, you know, just
to just to at the very least calm things down.

(01:24:54):
End Quote. The defendant felt that, quote,
UN quote, people at the top, including, quote, people on both
sides. Public figures, End Quote,
should not quote, ignore people's grievances or call them
conspiracy theorists, bad people, Nazis, or fascists.
I don't know when this occurred in there, but this sounds like

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we're just telling you what you need to hear.
Instead. Quote.
If people feel like their votes are like just being thrown away,
then at the very least someone should address it.
This is where it gets really funfor me.
As the interview continued, the defendant maintained that he did
not plant the pipe bombs. So they're indicating that this
happened, like in a logical sequence, that he was mad about

(01:25:37):
the election. But I'm not confident that they
are because they don't actually say that in here.
And so, again, a transcript is going to be very important, but
the actual video footage of him saying this and the degree of
confidence we can assign to it is going to be huge.
Steve, here's the part that I think we all really care about.
As the interview continued, the defendant maintained he did not
plant the pipe bombs. However, when the defendant was
shown a pair of Nike Air Max Speed turf shoes, he admitted

(01:26:00):
that he quote, used to have a pair and stated that he quote,
threw them away because they were old and they were coming
apart. No further information as we
like to say in the business. We know that one of them was
squeaky. We do, actually.
Armitas was able to identify on one of the audio cameras.

(01:26:24):
Squeak. In the in the walk.
Shoe Yeah, in the walk that one of the one of the the the pair
of shoes was squeaking. So here's what we know from that
little statement in this throwaway line that the
government filed in the confession.
They basically asked them about shoes.
And now they, they've explained why they don't have to produce
the shoes, which they said this case hinged on because he threw

(01:26:44):
them away. They do that with multiple
pieces of evidence that they would need to have, I would
think, after approximately 2 hours, during which the
defendant maintained that he didnot place the bombs.
Are we serious right now? I mean, I know you can do a long
interrogation of people and sometimes people crack under
pressure. That's certainly the case.
But they went at him for two hours and they continued on
until they got what they needed to hear.

(01:27:05):
One of the interviewing agents asked the defendant if he wanted
to end the interview and he responded that everything is
just blank. His words quote.
Everything is just blank and quote a little too much to
process. OK.
The interviewing agents then suggested that the defendant
look at the video footage from the night of January the 5th of

(01:27:25):
2021. Would you like to see this
video? Here we have it.
When the defendant was thrown a still image of himself on video.
That's that's a conclusory rightthere.
That's what they would call conclusory language.
In the filing a still image of himself on surveillance video
close to the time of planting the bombs.
He stated that he did not recognize the person and did not
previously seen the video. Well, here's the problem with

(01:27:46):
that. I think a lot of people have
already seen this video, right? And then he claims later on that
he has in fact seen the video and that's why he did all the
things like get rid of the evidence.
So he's contradicted himself in there.
We're supposed to believe one, not the other.
Anyway, that's that's the way confessions work.
People will lie until they don'tlie, unless they lie to make you
leave the room and stop badgering them.
The interviewing agents remindedthe the defendant that lying to

(01:28:08):
them was an additional criminal offense and asked the defendant
again whether the individual, whether he was the individual on
the surveillance video. At this time, the defendant
paused for approximately 15 seconds, placed his head down on
the table, and answered yes. See this was the the bad 50s B
movie that I saw. This is exactly how this is

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taught at the Academy, by the way.
You're supposed to basically tell them we know this was you,
and then they're supposed to just give up.
That's what the role players do.They give up and they say, yeah,
it was me. I've been lying for the last two
hours and and I've been telling you what you want to hear now,
so I'm going to tell you the rest of it.
After the defendant's admission,the interviewing agents
explained to him that they couldeither continue to discuss his

(01:28:50):
actions on January the 5th or they could stop the interview
altogether and transport the defendant to court for his
initial appearance. This is where it gets real
weird. Does he understand what's going
on? The the the agents explained
what initial appearance is and that if the defendant continued
the interview, he would have to appear in court the following
day. So there's your delay.
The defendant asked for times toprocess things and the agent
stepped out of the interview room for approximately 20

(01:29:11):
minutes and they let him steal on it.
When they returned, the defendant expressed his interest
in continuing the interview and executed a written waiver to
delay his presentment to the court until the next day.
We need obviously the competencyhearing is going to be really
important here. I want people to understand
exactly what we are dealing with.
Over the next approximately 1 1/2 hours, the defendant walked

(01:29:33):
the interviewing agents in detail through his construction,
transportation, and planting of the pipe bombs.
The defendant explained that he made the black powder in the
devices using charcoal Lily Miller sulfur dust, which they
show the Amazon which he bought in 2018, folks when he was mad
about the election of 2020, and potassium nitrate that he
purchased from Lowe's. The defendant mixed these
ingredients in a Pyrex bowl and used a spoon or maybe a

(01:29:55):
measuring cup to pour the black powder into the devices.
According to the defendant, he learned to make the black powder
from a video game that listed the ingredients and he also
viewed various science related videos on YouTube that assisted
him in creating devices. What I do not see on here is the
the Google warrant that shows that they actually have this
information and they've had timeto get it.

(01:30:17):
They've had what, two months now?
Yeah, I'm. I'm flabbergasted by what's not
in here, as usual. Actually, it's not even two
months, but. Well, they started sometime in
November and now we're here at the end of of December, which
means they had November and December to be able to do these
warrants, you know, before and after the the arrest, they still

(01:30:39):
should have been able to go after the stuff.
And they got this confession on the 4th.
So theoretically they've had 25 days to pull this from Google.
Regarding the construction of the devices, the defendant
explained that he used a hand drill and bit to drill the end
caps on the device that use pliers to crimp the alligator
clips and use kitchen timers rather than alarm clock timers

(01:30:59):
because these kitchen timers were easier to use.
Let's talk a little bit about drilling steel with a hand
drill. You ever done this, Steve?
I'm going to let you filibuster on that one while I take a short
break. Please do.
All right folks, real simple here.
If you've ever tried to drill anything with a hand drill
that's made of metal, you will find yourself in the weirdest

(01:31:23):
position because it will walk. The bit will walk.
Unless you have a very, very tiny, you know, pilot pointed
carbide drill bit, you are not going to be able to do this sort
of thing. And what we saw in the pictures
that they showed of those bombs is that we don't have a
scrolling walking drill bit thatcaused the problem.

(01:31:43):
That's problem #1 does he have avise to be able to hold this?
Was he holding this with his hand and then potentially
putting holes in his hand? Because that's what happens.
Ask me how I know. When you hold a piece of steel
with your hand and try to do a hand drill into it, you've got
to put a ton of pressure behind it so it actually bites in in
the 1st place. And then the second thing is, is
that if it doesn't walk, that means that you had it firmly
help what they call the work. You have to hold that end cap.

(01:32:05):
These are rounded end caps that have a curve.
So they're already going to needto go somewhere if you don't
have a jig to hold it or a punchto make a starter hole.
So you have something to to get going.
There's no way that this got done.
And I'm guaranteeing that this kid probably doesn't have the
upper body strength there or even the experience to do this.
I've drilled tons of metal for, no, you know, I'm always making
holes and stuff and then puttingscrews in where they don't

(01:32:26):
belong and holding things together that I broke, stuff
like that. The idea that he used a hand
drill, this is the most basic like explanation of something
that doesn't make sense if theseagents had ever done any work
with steel. All right, I'm going to keep
reading here. When he asked where he kept the
bomb making materials, the defendant explained that he hid
them in a closet inside his homeso they would not be found by a
family member. The defendant stated that he

(01:32:48):
assembled these devices in the hours before he drove to
Washington, DC on January the 5th, that he cleaned the devices
with disinfectant wipes, and eventually he admitted that he
did not go to January 6th to attend to protest at all, but in
fact traveled there to plant thedevices.
He transported his devices on January 5th inside of a shoe box
in the back of his Nissan Sentra.
He wore a mask and a hood to avoid identification.
He wore gloves to avoid leaving fingerprints.

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The defendant arrived in the city, parked his car on D St.
SE between 2nd and 3rd and near Folger Park and Providence Park.
I think they're talking about Providence, which is also looks
like Garfield Park. All right, this is really wild.
So he tells you where he parked.So we have to believe that
that's where he went. If this is correct, and that

(01:33:32):
means that he was so low, that'salso part of it.
Here, it's implied that he was by himself.
The defendant placed one of the devices in his backpack.
He exited his car, and he walkedtowards the DNC.
He set the timer on the first device, a maximum amount which
was 60 minutes, and placed that device near the DNC.
The defendant then returned to his car, uh oh, retrieved the
second device and placed it in his backpack and walked to the

(01:33:54):
RNC where he set the timer for 60 minutes and planted the
device. The defendant explained that he
had to use Google Maps to look up these locations in advance,
but apparently didn't need them in the moment.
A place that he'd never really been in was walking in the dark.
If you guys have ever tried to walk in the dark in Washington
DC and you're not familiar with the area because some of the
streets don't actually follow like a grid, I think we're going

(01:34:16):
to run up here real quick and I'm going to show you the map
that we're talking about. Again, just so we're on the same
page. You've got the grid streets here
like South Capitol Street and and 2nd St.
They go North and South almost perfectly.
You've got the the edges here ofC St.
SE, which is on the North End. You got D Street and then you've
also got E Street. But you have all these illogical
little moments that happen inside of this little area.

(01:34:38):
Look at this folks we're talkingabout.
We're talking about streets thatcut randomly across the area
that you're in. Here's North Carolina, you've
got New Jersey, they come in on angles.
You've got Canal Street, which goes into Washington Ave.
SW that comes in at an angle. You've got this bizarre little
St. here that runs behind the DNC that starts off going east,
West, but ends up going basically N northwest, or what

(01:35:03):
is that? North, East and southwest, it
has a big bend in it. There's these little alleyways
that take random turns. If you guys can see, you have to
probably turn the contrast up onyour phone or on your screen.
But there's all kinds of these little inlets that are
completely illogical. You did that from memory, having
never been there. All of that.
I, I, I strain to understand what's going on with this story.

(01:35:25):
We're going to continue back down.
We're about most the way throughwhat he's talking about.
He said that he used Google Mapsto look at the locations in
advance and apparently memorizedthe map, and then after planting
the devices, he left the car, picked up food from a restaurant
in Virginia, and he returned home.
That part might actually be true.
Kyle, if he used Google Maps, there was one thing that's not

(01:35:46):
on the Google Maps is where the blind spots are in the United
States Capitol Police televisionsystem or camera system, right?
Because this person appears out of nowhere at 7:34 PM.
Parked a vehicle where where it couldn't be identified even by
the FBI when they went and got them right.

(01:36:06):
Absolute knowledge of the blind spots shows up a block from the
Fairchild Building, which is a Capitol Police facility, storage
and and otherwise. And then magically and a
completely other sector at Folger Park disappears for 8

(01:36:28):
minutes and then magically disappears out a secret gate in
that alleyway into the church garden, St.
Peter's church garden. Oh, you got that pulled up I.
Got a better map. I went and pulled it while we
were talking here. So this is the the close map.
They the northern edge up here is this D street, these two

(01:36:49):
green dots you guys will see there's the RNC and there's the
DNC. So let's make this most of the
screen so we can see what's going on here.
And those are two parks. There's Providence Park and
Folgers Park. OK, let's let's assume for a
moment, let's go back to Folger there, all right, and make sure
everybody can see where Folger is.
Let's get. Closer.
Let's get closer. And this is the RNC part of the

(01:37:09):
loop, so there we go. OK, now let's identify where the
RNC is. It's up here on the green dot.
OK, now if you will look at thatalleyway that runs in the
middle, right behind the RNC, runs all the way to the back.
Just drag. Yeah, there you go.

(01:37:30):
You got the cursor going in the right direction.
This Rumsey. Court.
Drag that cursor along Rumsey all the way.
Keep going to the right, to the right, to the right to the
right. Go around that that that green
area right there and keep going.Now go up where those cars are.
OK. All right.
And then there's a secret gate right back here where it is

(01:37:50):
believed that the bomber disappeared through into that
little garden. Now you've got the garden
Perfect. Got it absolutely nailed.
This looks like a camera. Line.
Yeah. And how do you see that from a
from Google Earth? He doesn't look like you can get
through here. No, he didn't do this on Google.
He didn't know that. That gate, the gates got a
hidden latch on it. I've been through that gate
twice myself. This is what we're looking at

(01:38:14):
planning out and apparently the car was parked at somewhere like
right around here, 2nd St. and DStreet, so right in this little
area. OK, So either under this cover
here or somewhere over on this side, one of these sides here,
that's the claim where the wherethe vehicle was.
Yeah. And I've, I've stood on these
corners and that that one in theone up there on C St.

(01:38:35):
A crop behind from behind the Madison building.
I've stood on those corners and looking, I mean looking for
cameras, and it's absolutely without significant amount of
foreknowledge or plea planning that this kid would know where
those blind spots were. Here's what I'm also pointing
out to people to understand. Look, you got these cut

(01:38:56):
insurance, this, this alley here.
I mean, this one's coming in on a 45° angle.
So again, not just a perfect grid, same story here.
This one actually curves and then changes angle multiple
times. It's so easy to get turned
around. One of the easiest things to do
is to know that you've got basically like my next right is
going to be taking me north to here, my next left is going to
take me South, etcetera. If you want to do it on a grid,
that's really easy to do if all of your streets line up and

(01:39:18):
grids and your alleys do that. But that is not how Washington
DC is laid out. And even these parks have cross
angles here that are going to take you.
And all of those things are tricky in the dark.
Some of these look at the circleand fold your park.
I mean you end up on one of these where you continue into
the park and then you end up on a circle.
You're not doing that in an 8 minute like direct.
This is basically where we see like right around here, am I

(01:39:39):
right? It was where the the cameras
disappear and so from down here on East St. and roughly.
Canal Street or New Jersey? Like out here, this is where
there's a disappearance and so there's a walk that's basically
a straight line shot over here to where the car would have had
to have been, which we believe probably happened.
And then did, you know, appearing back on camera to to
run on 2nd and and C St. to go drop the RNC type bomb.

(01:40:01):
All of these things are really well squared away.
And that's not what this guy is explaining.
Anyway, we're going to go back into the the actual document
here as we continue on because. You you can't make up like he he
was mad about the political parties.
But apparently we're going to ignore the fact that there were
two previous targets or at leasttwo previous dwelling moments
where the hooded figure stopped the the Bush outside of the

(01:40:25):
Congressional Black Caucus Institute not mentioned at all
nor the Congressional boarding house where there was obviously
some time spent. How do we know about the
Congressional boarding house? What does that look like, Steve
on video that that we think thatwas an initial target.
It's a it's a pause. And on a Yep, you have to look

(01:40:47):
at the way the the behavior of that bomber was at the other
locations. It was, it was a pause, a very
interesting place to the bomber.And it seemed to be like the
bomber was reaching and maybe, possibly waiting to, you know,
do something specific there at the correctional boarding house.

(01:41:08):
And then a couple of cop cars came around the corner and
changed. Changed.
Changed the momentum at that moment.
Now, of course, that didn't happen over at the CBCCBCI Bush.
There was no interruption by anyoutside force, by any flashing
lights, the cherries and berriesof a, you know, Capitol Police

(01:41:30):
car or a couple of cars making atraffic stop or whatever it was
right at the other place. Now, we also have the other
curiosity in that our POI, too, also took photos of that
congressional boarding house. So there's that.
One of that one of those open questions yet to be answered.
Just just people wondering how this works.

(01:41:52):
I'll put this back up on the screen for a second here as we
kind of consider it. But this is the video, guys,
that if you have not seen it before, This is the hooded
figure person of interest one which the FBI has claimed is
Brian Cole Junior. Making an interesting stop at
this Bush outside of the Congressional Black Caucus
Institute just for the benefit of people who are new to the
channels or that are new to the podcast.

(01:42:13):
This is what Baker and The Blazeand Armitas have revealed
previously. You're seeing a daylight image
up on the top right with an arrow.
You're seeing an inset, and thenon the left is magnified.
I actually think the picture on the right is the easiest to see.
There's a circle that's kind of like lightened up where the
hooded figure sits down and you'll see that in just one
moment. But sits down at a Bush outside
the Congressional Black Caucus Institute and appears to be

(01:42:36):
going into the backpack, appearsto extract something from the
backpack and then place it underthe Bush and then retrieve it
from the Bush. Whether something was broken or
whatever else was going on there.
There was obviously some sort oflike little moment.
You can see we've seen probably what, 2 cars so far, Steve, that
have driven by not high, high volume traffic going on in

(01:42:57):
Washington, DC at this exact moment.
Just there's your third car. None of them are blue Nissan
Sentras, by the way, just as we're looking here.
We just want to know if that's areally common car in Washington,
DC. So you can see that there's
still this thing. This is 77 seconds of placing
something underneath and kind ofjust screwing around underneath
this Bush. I will.

(01:43:18):
I'll make sure you guys can can see this.
Again, this is in Steve Baker's timeline.
This has been in mine as well. Then you've got the hooded
figure getting ready to stand upand walks away off camera to the
right into the darkness. Then you Fast forward to the
finding of pipe bomb #2 which webelieve was placed first
according to the the videos. And here's your capital police

(01:43:40):
officers, surveillance units, the counter surveillance guys
looking underneath that Bush they're dwelling right now.
They are directly above the flashing lights of the police
car. And the they are just off to the
left of that signage which has the, the traffic light on them.
You can see there's people that are meandering around.
Those look like, are those law enforcement do we think?
OK. Yeah, yeah, where the hell is

(01:44:07):
this thing? And so here they're going to
walk past the Bush again and you're going to see a stop and A
and a a full hip turn. And there's an inset that's
that's magnified. But you see the Capitol Police
officers actually look underneath that Bush a little
bit more aggressively and then continue on.
And then they found the Bush andthey found it straight away in
just a few minutes afterwards next to where it was eventually

(01:44:29):
found outside that that DNC bench that was sitting out there
in the area. So the counter surveillance
officers in their most recent interview, their answer for why
the entire 12 minutes or so thatthey're on the lookout for, you
know, they're looking for devices, right?

(01:44:50):
This is this is what we've been told for years, is that they
were deployed specifically, there was three teams of two
that were out to look for additional devices after the RNC
bomb was found. But what it turns out is that
after we revealed all the video of their entire route, we never

(01:45:12):
see them looking for anything. In fact, most of the time
they're just looking at their phones as you're walking down
the street, right? So they're not looking in trash
cans, they're not looking under other bushes, they're not
looking behind cars, they're notlooking anywhere.
They never look. Well, they had an explanation
for that. They actually said that their
explanation for why they weren'tlooking under things and behind

(01:45:35):
things was because they were actually looking for humans with
handheld detonators. Now, Steve, you're a bright guy.
I like to think I'm a pretty capable observer.
Whenever I find someone who's dropped pipe bombs using a a
kitchen dial timer, I immediately assume that there
also might be some sort of command detonation capabilities.

(01:45:58):
Maybe that's because I had a little bit of demo training,
which Steve Deantuano decided tocall out in congressional
testimony in 2023. But I have actually seen what
the difference is between a remote detonation, a command
wire detonation, and then these sort of like completely
illogical timer based detonations, which you had 60
minutes but didn't go off. But we're totally viable if you
believe the FB is case. I want to keep reading this doc

(01:46:20):
here that I mean, that's wildly bizarre too, as you said.
What did you say was the most coached theatrical kind of
interview? Yeah, they said the the the
investigator actually said that it was to the point of
overacting. Perfect.
That's overacting if you say that I'm looking for somebody
with a detonator in their hand when we're looking at bombs that
have kitchen timers on them. All right.

(01:46:42):
According to the defendant, he was not really thinking how
people would react when the bombs detonated, although he
hoped it would be news about it.The defendant then stated he had
not tested the devices before planting them, claimed that he
learned that the devices did notdetonate, and he was, quote,
pretty relieved and asserted that he placed the devices at
night because he didn't want to kill people.
After seeing himself on the news, the defendant stated that
he discarded all the bomb makingmaterials at a nearby dump.

(01:47:04):
But then apparently we're supposed to also forget that he
kept buying fucking bomb making materials for the next year and
a half. So there's that.
All right, Pope, listen, I'm just telling you what the FBI
claims in there or what the whatthe DOJ is claiming.
After seeing himself on the news, the defendant stated that
he discarded all the bomb makingmaterials he had at a nearby

(01:47:25):
dump. I wonder if they ever went and
unearthed that. You'd imagine they would do
that. And then we go back to the fact
that, Oh yeah, he actually was still buying them three weeks
later. When was this on the news?
Immediately. But in January he was buying
more kitchen tibers in January and March and in October of 21
he's buying more pipe in. Let's see, this is April and

(01:47:47):
June and June and June and October, he's buying more end
caps. And in March and March and
August he's buying additional end caps.
And he's buying more wire in June, and he's buying more steel
wool in January. And he's got more alligator
clips from Home Depot in January, 3 weeks after the
freaking bombing. But he threw it all away.

(01:48:09):
He threw all of his bomb making stuff away in the dump, but then
he also went and bought more of it just so he could have more of
it. Well, there were, there were
going to be additional electionscoming up, so.
He probably already knew the, the he was probably excited he
was going to make actually some explosives that were celebratory
when Donald Trump won in 2024, since he's such a big Trump guy.
All right, so the defendant stated he didn't tell anyone

(01:48:30):
about the pipe bombs before planting them, nor in the years
since. And although the defendant
denied building additional explosive devices, he admitted
that sometime after he built thethe pipe bombs used in this
case, he purchased beakers and then conducted another science
experiment to create potassium chlorate, which he claimed was
unrelated to bomb making but is generally used for making

(01:48:50):
explosives and fireworks and so on.
When the interviewing agents returned to the defendant's
motive, he explained that quote,something just snapped after
quote watching everything, just everything getting worse.
The defendant wanted to do something quote to the parties
because they were in charge. When asked why he placed the

(01:49:13):
devices at the RNC and the DNC, the defendant responded.
I don't, I really don't like either party at this point.
Then the defendant pointed out that the idea to use pipe bombs
came from his interest in history.
This is my favorite claim in theentire document.
Folks. Market page 17.
The defendant also explained that the idea to use pipe bombs
came from his interest in history, specifically Baker.

(01:49:36):
You know, this is something thatis near and dear to all people's
hearts who are Black bronies living in Northern Virginia,
specifically the Troubles in Ireland.
He was mostly interested in the plight of the Irish Republican
Army and Sinn Fein in Ireland asthey fought against the British
monarchy in Northern Ireland in the 70s and 80s.

(01:49:57):
That's immediately where I wouldhave gone too.
I would have been like, you knowwhat?
When I start thinking about what's going on today, I start
thinking about can we have, can we have like an IRA in America
and maybe the troubles. Maybe he's been through his own
potato famine. Maybe he has.
Maybe he really does believe that there should be no kings,

(01:50:18):
and so he's actually bought thatfrom the left in the future.
Right. Maybe he's commiserated with the
H block. You know, hunger fast.
You know, fasters that fasted themselves to death in those
British prisons. Of course that was that happened
before he was born, so he wouldn't.
When I think about the troubles in Ireland, I often think about

(01:50:40):
pipe bombs too. I don't think about any of the
other things that were used. No, I just, I immediately go to
pipe bombs and ski masks and, and orange and and white and and
green and. OK, so that's the story guys.
Page 17 of 23. The defendant explained that he,
he came up with the idea of pipebombs because of the troubles in

(01:51:00):
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The defendant denied that his actions were directed towards
Congress or the proceedings thatwere going to take place on
January the 6th. So this was not related to
January 6th at all. That's helpful.

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OK, then they make the argument that he poses a risk to the
community if you believe any of the bullshit that they slung in
this particular document. All of this stuff is so wild to
me. Why do you think that they did
not ask him why he sat down for 77 seconds at the CBC under that
Bush? Well, that would completely

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destroy our case. Obviously, Steve, we want to
have somebody just agree to the nonsense, but we don't want
someone to. This is where it gets even
worse. So this is the nature and
circumstances of the charge defenses.
Again, the government is basically saying that we don't
know how he did this or why he did this.
So what we love is that he told us, and that's good enough for

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us because everyone knows that aconfession that's been, you
know, issued after two hours of of denials by a guy who's either
developmentally delayed or is, you know, autistic or has some
sort of developmental issues, that's going to be 100%
airtight. The defendant may have reached a
psychological breaking point. His crimes were anything but
impulsive. Well, he told you something just

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snapped. But yeah, they were anything but
impulsive because apparently he was doing it for literally
years. And then they go on to say that
the defendants pipe bombs and the fear and terror they
instilled in the general public were the product of weeks of
premeditation and planning. Well, to use their own documents
I would say it would be years. Years.
It has to go back to to 2018 now, yeah. 2. 1018 we've

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expanded it. With this particular document,
the defendant purchased the components he used to construct
the bombs over a series of months, including a before and
after the 2020 election, which right there tells you that it
makes no sense that he would do it because of the election.
Why was he building them beforehand?
And then they also take him at his word without having any
documentation saying, by the waywe substantiated what he said by
watching YouTube science videos and playing video games.

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He was able to disassemble, assemble the devices, whatever
the this is my favorite line too, Steve.
Whatever the precise contours ofthe defendants research and
preparation are, which the FBI essentially is admitting they
don't know whatever they were, it was sufficiently extensive
for him to assemble 2 pipe bombs10 the hours leading up to his

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travel to Washington DC, becauseapparently he built them on
January 5th. It was sophisticated enough for
him to construct, Here's that word again.
Viable explosive devices using all the components necessary to
cause an explosion, despite the fact that it didn't in fact
cause an explosion. And then he got rid of all of
his bomb making materials because he was worried, along
with the shoes, which he got ridof because he said they were
falling apart. But the good news is then he

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went out and bought more of them.
The calculated nature of the defendant's criminal conduct
over an extended period of time should feature prominently in
the court's detention determination.
This obviously the entire document is meant to make sure
that he stays behind bars. And we haven't even explored the

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whereabouts of the possibility, we'll just call it that, that
these bombs were removed after they were placed the evening
before and then replaced. That they weren't actually
laying out for anybody to find all.
Their noon? Yeah, sometime after 12:00.
We'll call that the Julie Kelly theory because she really likes
that. Yeah.

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Well. I know she's not the originator
of it. Let me let me continue this a
little bit because we're almost to the end here.
Perhaps more than anything else,this is directly quoting from
the document. Again, perhaps more than
anything else, the defendant's choice of targets demonstrates
the extreme and deeply dangerousnature of his conduct.
Although the defendant acquired the bomb making components in
the month leading up to January 5th, also known as the Years, he

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chose to plant them at the headquarters of the nation's two
major political parties in downtown Washington, DC on the
eve of the January 6th certification of the Electoral
College vote. Which, by the way, in his own
words, had nothing to do with what he was doing.
But that doesn't matter. We're making an argument here.
In his own words, the defendant said that he did not quote like
either party, but they were in charge and thus they were, in

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the defendant's mind, an appropriate target for extreme
acts of violence. The defendant's choice of
targets risked the life of innocent people and pedestrians
and office workers, but also of law enforcement, first
responders and national political leaders who were
inside the respected party headquarters or drove to them on
January the 6th. Except theoretically, they were
supposed to blow up before that.In this sense, the defendant's

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invocation of the Troubles in Northern Ireland is telling.
Did someone write this with a straight face?
The bombings. Bombings were used frequently
throughout that period to kill officials and civilians.
For political purposes, the court should consider the
gravity of the defendant's targets in assessing the nature
of the charge. Defenses.

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Buddy. Mr. Baker?
Yeah. Man.
It goes on. There's a couple more pages
here. They're mostly, they're mostly
not relevant to what we're making the argument of.
Should we go to the motion that the government filed and then
the this was the government's motion.
Rather, should we go to the to the answer that the defense
played? Yeah, this is this is actually
pretty powerful. I'm very pleased with the new

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legal team. They seem to be coming out of
the chutes with the intent to defend Brian Cole.
I wasn't so sure about the previous attorney.
I actually had concerns because of their lack of response, lack
of candor, that they were working for the wrong team, as a
matter of fact. This is a motion that is from

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the defense and I'm going to call this a check raise.
If you guys are familiar with the way poker works, sometimes
you can bait somebody into playing a hand and they will,
you'll check to them, you'll saywe'll defer to you.
And in in this case, the check would have been that they will
defer the the detention and preliminary hearing until the
30th instead of requiring it to be done in the 1st 15 days,

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which is required by the Speedy Trials Act.
So they checked to the government and the government
they decided to, you know, to play at them and they said yeah.
And we've got this confession and we're feeling good to go.
And then once the check comes around, they raise on top of it.
And so the defense filed this motion.
This is the defendant Brian ColeJunior's motion to confirm a

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preliminary hearing date. And this was filed yesterday.
All right, The documents that we're looking at from the
previous still an order. This is document 17 was filed
yesterday. We've also got document 21 in
this case. And what it says is Defendant
Brian Cole, Junior, the underside counsel respectfully
moves the court to confirm that the hearing already set for

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Tuesday, December 30th of 2025, will proceed as Rule 5.1,
Preliminary Hearing and Detention Hearing and enforce
the statutory timeline and remedy provided by 18 USC 3060
in the event the government objects to a preliminary hearing
On this date. Mr. Cole has not waived his
right to a preliminary hearing where they will assess what
probable cause exists. This is different than going to

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grand jury, folks. And this is where it gets really
interesting because if they, if they allow this to continue a
continuance that would take theminto next year, the DOJ would
take this in front of a grand jury, which is 1 sided.
It's the government's case only and they represent what they've
got and then a grand jury decides what it is.
Maybe they snow them with that ping BS.

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Maybe they try to go out there and say he had all the materials
so therefore he was the guy. And they sort of don't
necessarily bring up the fact that he continued buying bomb
making materials after he apparently threw out the bomb
making materials because he was worried about being found out.
And then he started wiping his phone before the event and then
18 months after the event and then did so compulsively 942
times over the next, you know, whatever it is, couple years.

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And like that means something. Maybe maybe a, a civilian grand
jury might be snowed by that, but I suspect a judge might not
be nearly as much. The parties previously set the
date of December the 30th and the 20 of 2025 as the date for
the detention hearing. The defense did not rave waive
the right to this preliminary hearing and to the contrary, it
is consistently expected that itwould proceed on December the

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30th. This could actually all end with
some exculpatory evidence presented, which they're allowed
to do to show that there's not even probable cause to keep this
guy in in prison that they wouldhave to actually they could even
they could drop this case tomorrow and there's AI would
say if they if they do their jobright, they can throw this thing
out. I don't know if they'll do that,

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but this is what the government apparently sent an e-mail asking
to push the preliminary hearing to either January 7th or 8th.
But the defense says that it comes too late and it does not
meet the Rule 5.1 D rigorous standard.
In other words, the government is realizing that their bluff is
being called here. And this is my reading of this.

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The court should confirm that the the December 30th hearing is
not just a detention hearing butalso a preliminary hearing and
direct the government to be prepared to present its evidence
in support of probable cause. I would I would say that if I
was in this scenario, I would not want this at all folks.
I would not want to be presenting this case to anybody,
certainly not a judge that's going to look at it and and has

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a presumption of innocence because this is so weak.
It continues to be the thinnest case outlined.
And then they go on to talk about Federal Rule of Criminal
Procedure and talking about thatthere is a prompt probable cause
determination that's supposed tobe made.
Usually you have no less than itcan be no later than 14 days
after the initial appearance. But in this case they had some
extraordinary circumstances. They bumped it back a little

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ways. What it does require is that
there is a extraordinary circumstance and justice
requires the delay. This is the only reason that the
government could say, aha, yes, we need additional time because
of these things. And the and the defense is
arguing they didn't meet that motion.
What the government is trying todo is kick it in the next year
so they can go to a grand jury and bypass this, this
adversarial preliminary hearing where the defense has the

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ability to go and question probable cause.
Forget, forget actual like guilt, you know, and and the and
the beyond reasonable doubt, they can question whether or not
there's even probable cause and that should happen tomorrow.
That's what the defense is asking for, which I think is
very encouraging. Again, Steve was saying that we
watched kind of a kind of a limpwristed start to this defense,

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but this is a much more full throated statement that says
that they're actually going to defend this.
Case now I'm very I'm very pleased with this and nothing
would obviously nothing would please me more to see a judge
just hit the pause button on this thing send him home, you
know at least until they the government can get their act
together on this. I I you know I think that I

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think the case is too big it's got too much of a profile
already for the regardless of who the judge is regardless of
the political ramifications. I think that they're going to
have to probably I don't want them to but I think they're
probably going to have to detainthis kid in some manner up until
this point. Hopefully he's not sitting in in

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a look. Let me, let me let me tell you,
let me tell you a story real quick.
I was at Matt Kibby's Christmas party Thursday a week and a half
ago, and this was the day beforeI really got sick and I was

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feeling great. Congressman Thomas Massie was
there among many other people, acouple other dignitaries and
Congress members. And we were talking about the
kids, this possibility that thisBrian Cole was sitting in

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solitary confinement and Massey literally genuine, genuinely,
his heart was aching for this young man and expressing that to
me into a crowd of people that we were talking to and how much
that that was hurting. He said the words he said, this
hurts my heart to think that this kid is sitting in a

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solitary confinement somewhere. And I, you know, they're
certainly not going to have him in the general population.
He's going to be in protected custody.
And but to break up the routine,I mean, let's look 5 minutes to
Wapner, right? The, the, the headphones, his
routine going to the 711 every day, two orders, 2 Cokes and a

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slice of pizza every day. And these routines he can't
break up. And even talking to the
neighbors, his route when he walked the dog twice a day was a
very specific route that very, very rarely, if ever altered at
all. And this is typical of the, of

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individuals with this particularmental wiring.
And so then you Fast forward a couple of days and I and I, I, I
don't want, I didn't get permission from the congressman
to, to say this yet or to, you know, but I'm going to thank him
publicly for what he did. That's right, I think it has to

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be. What's that?
I think it has to be done. Yeah.
I, I, when I went to the emergency room on Sunday here in
North Carolina, there was something that I needed to tell
the congressman badly. There was something that I had
been sitting on for a couple of days that I learned on Friday of
a week, week and a half ago, Something which if you've

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followed Johanneman's X account at all he talked about there's
it's deeper and darker. This J6 pipe bomber case is
deeper and darker than has yet to be revealed.
And Joe alluded to that in one of his post.
And this was while I was going through with what I was going
through. And the congressman had already

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left. DCI was still there.
I was still there until Saturdayafternoon, but he flew out on
Friday and to begin his holiday and I sent him a note and I
said, I'm probably in order to tell you this because I can't
speak this over a telephone. I need to get on an airplane.
I need to come see him. And he was, he was like, come

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on. Then all of a sudden everything
in my life changed on Sunday, Sunday evening and multiple
procedures through the night andthen the next morning and in
between one of these procedures where they knock me out, I get a
message from the congressman andhe said, I'm flying to Raleigh,

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I'm coming to see you. And I'm and I've I've already
got scheduled another procedure where they're going to go in and
ZAP my heart, you know, to try to knock it back into sink to
jam some sort of device down my throat.
And you know, went in and and then hit me with the.

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Yes, they did a transesophageal cardio version.
Yeah, something, whatever it's called, yeah.
That's what it's called. And so of course, they, you
know, they put me under general anesthetic for that.
And he's, he's, he's, he's in the air.
He's, I mean, I'm, I'm on a table somewhere in this, you
know, the bowels of this new cardiac center in Raleigh.

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And he's flying to, to the hospital to see me.
He and his wife and I come out of it.
I get they transferred me. I've been in ER the night before
in the, I'm sorry, intensive care ICU the night before.
So they transferred me to a regular room after this
particular procedure and got my heart back under control.

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And then sure enough, Congressman shows up in my hotel
room and he and his wife and they sat there with me for four
hours through into late into theevening on on Monday.
And this is, this is the guy who's taking more heat from MAGA

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right now than anybody else, more heat from the Trump
supporters than anybody else. I mean, the, the, the reality is
he's more, he's more MAGA and he's more the guy that Trump
campaigned to be then then the, the party or the people or those
who claim to be. But he's also he's a sincere and

(02:07:53):
purposeful human being who's notcompromised by the system.
And when he reached out to me several weeks ago after our
first story in this series came out and I had not seen him since
his since his wife died year anda half ago, his previous wife,

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obviously. And he sent me a message and he
said, Hey, Steve, he said, let'sget together.
He said, we got to we got to getcaught up on all of this.
And he said, oh, by the way, I'mstill not compromised.
And I thought that was the greatest thing in the world, you
know, for him to put that out there in a manner he did and he

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and he's not and. Let me let me say that one more
time for people that are following it.
And listen, if you guys, I'm watching our chat and the chat's
like what's the point? I don't understand.
It's like, OK, listen, first of all, my buddy just got out of
the hospital. So give the man a break.
Like Steve. Plus, Steve and I tend to have
meandering stories. That's just the nature of the
man. So deal with it y'all.
But here's the most important part Steve Baker told Thomas

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Massie, the congressman, I have something I want to share with
you and I'm going to fly out to tell you because I can't do it
over the phone. Tom Massie found out that Steve
Baker was in the hospital. He reached out to me and talked
to me, said, you know what The thing is?
I said, I don't. But I know he wanted to tell
you. And I know it's really important
to him. And the next time I talked to
Steve to Congressman Massie, which was a couple hours after
that, it was I did the podcast and I got a phone call and he

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said, I'm in Raleigh and I'm driving up to go see him right
now in the hospital. He got on a plane.
What was it the day before Christmas or two days before?
It was like a. Couple days before Christmas.
Every He had family in town, he had grandchildren and all the
things that you'd expect. And he didn't tell us we could
tell the story, but we're doing it anyway because the man showed
up in a hospital room when nobody else did.

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And also just a little shout outto one of our friends, a former
FBI guy who's retired and decided to go up there, took it
upon himself to go and keep watch over our friend Steve
Baker. There's some real people out
there that are that are genuine.And there are people out there
that pretend to be genuine. And if you guys want to know
what's genuine, it's jumping on a plane on December 23rd when
you got family in town because somebody tells you they might be

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on their deathbed and they've got something they need to share
with you. And you decide that it's
important enough to show up. And how much credibility did
that give you with the story that you were telling the
doctors when when you had a congressman flying across the
country to come talk to you? Yeah.
Well, I had, I had some concernsabout the timing of this
particular event and particularly when you look at

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some of the things we've been writing stories about for the
last year. And so one of the things that I
requested of the surgeons were or the, the, the docs there was
that they would do a, you know, much more extensive blood study
and. Toxicology.
Yeah, Toxicology screen. Toxicology and, and they looked

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at me, you know, like I was a tinfoil hat kind of guy.
And so finally one of the one ofthe main guys, the guy that
actually did that, that last procedure on me, he said and I,
I was already in recovery and hesaid he goes, I don't, you know,
he goes, look, I'm not trying toquestion you or anything.

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He goes, but is there anybody inyour family or that can verify
and validate your concerns? And I said, well, I said
according to the message I have right here, I said that the
congressman will be here in an hour.
You can check in with him if youwant to.
And that sealed the deal for me,right?

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Anyway, people you can, you can judge people by their fruits,
you can judge them by their actions.
This was right in the middle of the, of the Epstein file, you
know, signature and the, and thedeadline that was coming up on
that and the, the failure to release all that information.
So it's not like Massey didn't have other things that were
going on. But for a guy to take it out of
his, you know, very busy schedule, which he is, and he's

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a very prominent congressman to pick up and fly out to go see,
you know, Steve in the hospital and, and, and, and nobody would
ever know, by the way, none of you would know that if we didn't
tell you. And we're telling you because
it's important. It tells you who Massey is.
I mean, this obviously was also all out of his pocket.
He flew himself, his wife there.There was no direct flight from

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eastern KY where he lives to Raleigh.
He had to fly to Charlotte, renta car.
It's a 3 hour drive drive to Raleigh and then spend the night
there and then drive back to Charlotte the next morning to
catch a flight back to the Eastern.
Fly back to his family for, for Christmas.
Just judge people by their fruits, folks.

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And you can you can see the way that they they handle business
and you can see that you won't always see the stuff going on
behind the scenes. Part of what we do here at this
program is that we're not beholden to anybody.
And you know, he didn't tell me not to share that story and he
didn't tell Steve not to tell that story.
I know he wouldn't go and brag about it and tell you, but I
think that is a pretty good indication left somebody's
character when they step up in the same way that we had

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somebody step up and and sit in your hotel room.
And, you know, certainly put me at ease knowing that there was
someone there looking over you that I could trust to keep an
eye on you. And, and he did a risk
assessment and we decided that you're OK.
I'm really glad you're out of the hospital right now.
This case is crap. This story that the government
is peddling is garbage. And I think that this is where

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I'm going to end it and I'll endit on this.
And, and thank you for spending all the time with me that you
did, because this is the most that you and I have talked.
It's probably the longest you'veyou've spent talking on on like
this in a couple of days, buddy.Yeah, this is actually.
You're going to go and take somesome, some downtime, I hope.
But this is what I think is really wild.
I'm moving more and more into the camp that I I suspect that
the FBI may be doing this on purpose, not setting somebody up

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on purpose. They do that all the time.
That's just kind of the MO. But my, there's a real
possibility that they are deliberately presenting this
weak case because of how it's going to reflect on the guys
that run the FBI. And I, I don't have any evidence
of this other than just kind of my gut feeling.
But I was talking it out with a retired FBI agent last night.
And it's really hard to imagine them being this incompetent and

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having this much garbage being posted unless they are really
trying to go out there and show that the guys running this who
who hang their hat on this particular case, they want to
because you're not going to knowthe names of the case agents
that were in that interview. They're not going to be national
stories. The even the a Dick, the

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assistant director in charge of the Washington field office will
not have a national story. His career won't be ruined over
this. He'll go get another job.
Somebody else. Nobody will know.
They won't know to look for it, but Patel and Bongino will be
sullied by this if it explodes in their face.
Yeah. And who and who is bringing this
about? Who is making this bad of a
case? That's, I mean, that's the.

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Question Purpose. We don't know the answer, but I
but I'm just telling you like I'm moving.
This is a, a growing possibility, which is a really,
really, really dark thing to think that they would both
sacrifice the freedom of some poor citizen, that they would
deliberately spike this case to cover up for government or
otherwise. And that it looks this bad

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because it, because if this blows up and I, and I think that
there's almost, I don't, I don'tknow how they get away with it,
especially with what you and I have seen privately, which
folks, it will be public at somepoint.
Keep your eye on the blaze. Keep your eye on Steve Baker's
place over there, which is it's theblaze.com/truth TRUTH.

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I, I don't, I think you could get a acquittal with what we
know right now in front of ADC jury.
I I will forget. Like a black jury, I'm talking
about like white liberals in Washington, DC are not going to
convict this. Guy, no, there's there's no,
there's no way ADC jury convictsthis guy right now.
Just with what we know. Just with what we know, and
there's obviously going to be more, more and worse to this, I
think the more that we learn. Yeah, absolutely so.

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I'm going to leave it at that. Steve, thanks for thanks for
sitting through this with me andwalking through this, this
nonsense. I hope that was somewhat
therapeutic. And I know it's kind of a
reintroduction of the wild here.Man, no thanks for thanks for
having me. And let me let me close out by
saying thank you to the thousands of people that put the

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prayers out there. Thank you.
Thank you. Yeah, buddy, it's been a rough
couple weeks. It didn't get any better,
especially that it was at the holidays.
You guys, Steve has been light on social.
You can tell he's emotional and I'm, I feel the same thing.
I told him yesterday I was like,I don't care about the blaze.
I don't even care about the story.
I just care that he's all right.And so that's a big deal for all

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of us and for all of you that have been praying it it works
and you're here with us today. So I God bless you man, for what
you're doing and for sitting here and, and thinking that this
was a good idea, even though youprobably were advised against it
by all your healthcare people. You too.
You too, my friend. Well, the you know, the the, the

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worst, the worst place to get rest is in the hospital.
You know that's true. Yeah, I'm glad you're back home.
It's the one thing you need the most is rest and and of course
they first thing 4:00 every morning, they kick the door up
and there's a guy sticking needles in your arm drawing
blood. And then at 5:30, they're doing
your vitals and making you get out of bed and stand on a scale
and you know, and then it just only gets worse as the day

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proceeds forward. So I, I did get, I did get some
really good sleep my first nighthome, which was Saturday night.
But then this story came out, this this filing came out and it
felt like I was back in the hospital again.
I believe that we did have a good moment about the the

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thermometers, which we'll save that for you today.
Steve. Thanks for joining me, folks.
Follow Steve and his work. You can make sure you put your
notifications on like I do and you can see that they're on on
the screen right now. It's at Steve, Steve Baker Baker
at Steve Baker USA, much easier than your old handle.

(02:17:56):
I appreciate that you changed itat Steve Baker USA.
Follow him. He's an investigative reporter
for The Blaze. He's investigative reporter for
just Truth in general. And this stuff's coming out one
way or another. So if anybody thinks it's going
to be hidden, it's going to happen and I will be part of it.
And and he's still alive. He's still in the fight.
So God bless you, buddy. Thank you.
I look forward to following up on this soon.

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That's, that's it for the day, folks.
Pray for Steve, keep it going. He's got a lot of recovery in
front of him. Pray for this, this young man
that's in prison right now or that's being detained and we'll
see what happens next. Make sure you're following us at
the places you can. You can find us on Spotify, Kyle
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friend. That is a really easy way to do
it. Today's show is going to be
really critical to understandinga lot of this.

(02:18:40):
You can find all the documents and stuff, the PDFs at
kyleseraphin.com if you have us ever want to find us on locals
And if you're watching on YouTube, if you're watching on
Rumble, if you are, you know, watching on X, make sure you
like what you're seeing. We're monetized on the 2 the
previous two. I don't get any money out of the
X thing, although we're happy tohave the audience there join us
on one of the monetized platforms for the really good
for the really good chat that continues to be, I would say,

(02:19:02):
the best chat in in media. So there you go.
All of you all make the show what it is.
We're going to go all the way through the new year.
We may have an abbreviated show on January 1st, but I intend to
continue carrying the stuff out and tomorrow should be an
interesting day. Remember, that's when the
hearing's supposed to be. So we'll keep an eye on the
story and all the others and we'll do some like updates and
what's been going on in the lastfew days on a different day.
I've had too much. This is a long 1.

(02:19:24):
So that is it for today's show. I hope you guys had a great
Christmas. Merry Christmas to all of you on
this fifth day of Christmas, allthe way through Epiphany will be
saying Merry Christmas because that's how we do it here.
And year 2026, I'm going to tellyou it's going to be the year of
the bacon cheeseburger nationalist.
This is Kyle Seraphin's brainchild.

(02:19:44):
This is the this is the thing that I think America is at The
people in the middle on the leftand the people in the middle on
the right. We can all agree on a bacon
cheeseburger. And if you're someone that
doesn't like or won't consume that, no matter what your
reason, I think, I think you might be the minority.
I think the majority of America is a bacon cheeseburger
nationalist. We care about this country.

(02:20:06):
And we care about being able to do regular stuff, like we grew
up at a diner. So look forward to that.
Maybe we'll even merch it just because every time I've told
somebody, like just a regular dude on the street, you tell
them about bacon cheeseburger nationalism and they're like,
Yep, yeah, that's that's that's my party.
It's neither of those two parties.
Maybe we'll get one for Brian Cole.
Hopefully he's out soon. God bless all of you.

(02:20:27):
Thanks for being here. No, pal.
Cleanse today. We're going to just shut it
down. We've gone extra long.
And I look forward to seeing youguys for the rest of this week.
Thanks for listening to the KyleSeraphin show, streamed live
weekdays on rumble.com/kyle Seraphin.
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