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June 15, 2025 45 mins
This week, Gunnar is joined by fellow podcaster and WWE fanatic Matt Mysh. In this episode, they share some of their favorite WWE moments, their favorite superstars, and much more. 

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well, everyone, welcome back to another episode of the legendary
Gunner Podcast. I'm Gunner and there is a new special
guest on my show. It is they Rated is the
Rated R Superstar of podcasting, Matt Mish. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Matt.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Hump your fist if you feel me, and holler if
you hear me. Gunner. It's the michelin Man aka the
Undercover Brother aka the Rated R Superstar Podcasting and the
mother Loving House. So what's up, buddy?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
So what are you gonna be talking about? W W
mean stuff?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I am totally okay with that because as a avid
WWE fan for the last fifteen years, I think i'd
be able to do some educating for you. So since
you you're kind of just getting into it, right, Yeah? Yeah,
last year or so you've been watching it with your dad.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I've been obsessed.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Now good and that honestly, how old are you again? Eleven?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, that's the perfect age to get into it. You're
you're you were at it like the perfect time for it.
If you ask methough, you probably would have been. If
you were around at my time, you probably would have
been just as great. But now is a pretty good
time too.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
It is so first question, like, you're an open book.
M hm, how much do you love you?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
The things I can say on this show are not
for children to listen to, and especially yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
How about like can I can I chime in just
for a second? Yes, so the I know. Every time
I come across a reel on Instagram, Avria, I shoot
it your way. You're yes, You're the only person I
think of. I'm like, Mish needs this. I'll look at
the bottom and see, Okay, Mish hasn't liked this, so
that means he probably hasn't seen it. So I'm gonna

(02:14):
shoot it over his way.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
And I appreciate that I do. I don't get the
chance to look at all your videos you send me
right away, but I when I do watch them and
I do see one of those real ones you send me,
I'm very very happy. And there might be a thump
that happens under the table when you send them.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Spot I will tell you that if you haven't seen
them all yet, it's pretty much just rehear ripty thirst
trap videos.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Good good. So basically gunna to the whole point is
when a man loves a goth Mombee very very much.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so glad that you guys

(03:14):
are laughing your ass.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I will be using hashtag goth mommy and.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yes yes.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh and muscle mommy muscle oh.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Listen, Gonnar, when you're older, you'll understand God and muscle
mommies that that is the true test of what a
man loves. You got plenty of time, don't worry. Don't
rush your childhood. Be a kid, Be a child, yes, exactly,
you don't be. I'm not here to corrupt you, I promise.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Fuck it, I'm on this show. Now. Well, he cursed,
he cursed, You're going to cancel.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
You need to leave.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Okay. I just want everybody to know I was told
not to curse on this show, and I heard Mike
just say f it, So I am JO should give
me free raid to drop at least one f bob now, okay,
we are not I am not here for this hypocrisy, Mike. Okay, good,

(04:19):
I'm not gonna use it yet. I'm gonna say it.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's your money in the bank, briefcase, Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Speaking of money in the bank, how do you feel
about Seth Rowlins winning.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
He's gay for that, he's what he's stupid for that.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
No no, no, no, no, no no, say it with your
whole chest.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
What did you say he said he's gay? For that?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I mean, you're not wrong. It might be the wrong
month to say it, but.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Anywh who was your pick?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I think everybody's picture in LA and I should have
won the match. I wasn't gonna go Penta. I mean
still still yes, I'm still pissed Melow didn't make it
in Melow not being in the match is a travesty.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Man Mellows in the King of the Ring.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
I don't care. It's doesn't matter if he's in King
of the Ring. He should have been the money of
the bank. He should have They should be putting him
on a freaking pedestal and they're making him job out
every freaking week.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Second question, when did you get answer? Wrestling right?

Speaker 2 (05:39):
You want to hear the story.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
My sister had a friend in middle school who loved
wrestling right, so she tried to convince my sister to
like it too. So one day she's like, I want to.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Wait to sink on w B SmackDown someone.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Really, I don't know what was on at the time,
keep in mind, this is like December into January, so
this is like twenty two thousand and nine going into
twenty ten.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
She was.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
And I don't know what sports were on at the time,
because I don't know if it was the Knicks and
the Rangers, but I'm just like, I don't want to
watch this garbage. I was like, I want, I want
to watch actual sports, and I was like I after
like twenty minutes. It's funny. The first thing I ever
said or I ever heard on SmackDown was Triple H,
who was there. For some reason. Looking back on it,

(06:30):
he called what's it called? He called Serena deeb because
it was just a straight edge society at the time.
They were just really starting to become a faction. He
called Serena deep Britney Spears. That's a reference for any
one of the in the two thousands for sure, and
he called what else? God? He was he ever saying

(06:53):
a bunch of insults to CM Punk. So basically it
was like a straight out of society versus Triple H.
And I think Mysterio was there too. This is my
first interaction with wrestling, so I'm just like, okay, that's fine.
And then after like a couple of like matches, I
think Our Truth was like the first match I ever
saw on television. I'm just like, who the fuck is
this guy? Who gives a shit? I know, looking back

(07:15):
on it, it's sacrilegious. But what happened?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
You cashed in?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Oh? I did cash it? Damn it? All right?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You did?

Speaker 1 (07:24):
S mom too?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Okay, Mike gets an s bum but no. So it's
like I was like, who cares? So I just like left,
and like, after a couple of weeks, my sister would
keep watching it here and there, and I would like
watch it with her, and funny enough, she fell out
of it and I started to really like it. And
now everyone in my house hates it, and I'm the
one that watches it religiously.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
So my mom was like, oh, you know what, he's
watched this garbage. It's so fake. It's so this. I'm
just like, oh, yeah, what do you think reality TV is?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Ma?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
You think I need any movie ever?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
You think you think General Hospital is real?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Any movie ever?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, don't tell me about wrestling being faked. When she
watches the garbage she listens to, she watches.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Right, she didn't watch wrestling.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
But now she's in Well your mom is cool. There's
a different stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I know.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
I love you mom.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
She's she's my goth mommy.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yes, I have one, see Mike, Mike found his goth mommy.
I'm still looking.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Not really.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yes, yeah, say yes for the sake of your own
skin being saved at some point when you're when Tabby lists.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
This muscle goth mommy. Yes, yes, we love you, Tabby,
I have my own.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
We all love you very much, right right, guys.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, she's actually downstairs asleep. She's under the weather today.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Oh man, that stinks. But hope she feels better. But yeah,
So that's basically how I got into wrestling, And I
think I technically considered the Royal Rumble Gunner to be
like my anniversary of being a fan, so to speak,
because that's when I really started to pay attention, was
Roial Rumble going into Elimination Chamber, going into WrestleMania twenty six.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
So the first rumble that you watched, who won? Do
you remember?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
See that's that's a funny question because I don't remember
the first rumble I watched. The first rumble I was,
I was a fan for what was Okay, so I didn't.
I don't remember which one. I don't remember the first
one I actually watched. That's the problem. I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well, do you remember the year? You said fifteen years ago?
So twenty ten.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
So twenty ten was the first year I started watching.
That's when Edge won the first time, when he came
back from the Achilles that I know. And then an
Edge was on TV and I'm like, Okay, he's the
coolest guy ever. I don't know why I liked him,
but he was so cool and but yeah, so there
was that, and I was just kind of like, uh,

(10:05):
I don't know who the first one was. That's the problem. Yeah,
So if you gave me a list of like all
of the Royal Rumble winners, I might be Wait.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
You know what's fun? Wait your favorite your favorite wrestler
the year you got into it. Yeah, favorite wrestler eliminated
John Cena from the Royal Rumble and this year his
favorite guy eliminated John Cena from the Rumble. Jay usso.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Or Bros From From Another Mother.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So you're you're you're linked by John Cena getting eliminated
in the Royal Rumble.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
F John Cena. I didn't say it, but wait, I
think the first one I watch. Wait, hold on, seriously,
look up the Royal Rumble winners from the last fifteen years,
and if you tell me the winners, I'll be able
to tell you which one I the first one I watched.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, so well he's doing that. I'm going on with
my next question. Mm hm, who was your favorite champion
when you started watching wrestling before?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
You're his all time favorite champion. Yeah, I can answer
that question. Edge.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, but if you think about it, I only witnessed
Edge being champion like one well once because he won
the world title and that was it, and then he
lost it. Well, he relinquished it because he retired.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So here's the last fifth you want, the last fifteen
Rumble winners.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Give me a la fit from twenty ten to like
twenty eighteen. Give me because I'll know I'll know what
to twenty eighteen at.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
That Starting starting at twenty ten, it's Edge, Alberto del Rio, Seamus,
John Cena, Batista, Roman Reigns, Triple H, Randy Orton, shinz
Ke Nakamora.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
All right, time out. I think this this is where
I think it was the first way John seer. I
think if the first one was.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Is John Cena won it in thirteen.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I don't think I saw that one. I think it
was Roman Reigns. I'm like ninety percent sure it was
the Roman Reigns one.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
So twenty fifteen, yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I was. I was thinking about that too before you
listed him off. I'm like it had to have been
Roman Reigns because I remember him getting booed to crap,
and I don't remember seeing John Cena win the one
in A twenty thirteen. So I remember seeing Rustlemania twenty
what was it twenty nine, but I don't remember seeing

(12:41):
the Rumble that year.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, and twenty yeah, twenty fifteen Roman Reigns eliminated Russov.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, that was the infamous Philly show that they completely
turned on him for and the Rock could even get
them over. Yeah, yeah, that was the infamous Yeah, I
remember that like it was yesterday. I remember that whole thing.
That was an absolute crap shoot.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Uh huh, yes, it was.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
So On the next question, who's your favorite champion right now?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Mm hmm, crud. I didn't really answer the other one though,
because I because I don't think Edge would be the
right answer. I'm gonna have to say Punk for that one,
to be honest, nice because that it was either Randy
or Punk because that was the only two people that

(13:42):
were holding the championships consistently. Yeah, so I'm gonna have
to go with that. But now, oh, are you current
like current list of champions or can we go back
like the last year or so?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Current? Oh god, current title holder that include like us
and our Continental Tag team.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yes, m hm, Well this is a hard one because
I don't really know if I really outside of Gunther,
I don't really know if I care about anybody else.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Are you maybe EO Hell yeah, EO Sky rolls, We're right,
this is an EO sky household.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
What about men?

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Then that's the case? Oh wait, no, Jacob fot two's
gotta be it. I gotta wrap Jacob Fott two for
that one. Yeah, that's my guy. That's been my guy
since his MLW days. So Jacob I met him?

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Really?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yes, it was the last MLW show I had went
to back. I don't know it was it twenty twenty
one or twenty twenty two, one of those They were
doing a show at Philly and I drove over with
my dad and I knew it was gonna be the
last show I was going to for a while because
it was getting a little expensive. And I was like,

(15:05):
you know what, I'm going to get all the autographs
and merch I can get in pictures and stuff. And
Jacob Fog two is at the merch table, and he
and I had like a few minute conversation. He was
super nice, Like you think he's like an absolute cycle
path from what you see on TV.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Oh, I've seen nice. I've seen like videos of him.
He seems like a really sweet guy.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
He's a really sweet guy. He's I don't know, I
haven't met many famous people, but and I've only ever
met like, and I mean out of all that group
of guys I met, because I think I met I
met Fought two, I met Enzo, I met Jeff Cobb
or Jason Mateo now which is a stupid name, but

(15:48):
I think those are the three guys. I know for
a fact. I took a picture with throwing that show,
and Jacob was the best one by far, not that
the other two weren't great. I mean, Enzo was trying
to hustle me a really crappy pink sweatshirt that it
was not my color. So so he's got he and
he was kind of a dickhead for that. But uh,

(16:10):
and then I also met Tommy Dreamer recently. Wait did
I not tell you this? Did you not know?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I know?

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh wow, okay, okay. So I work at a gym
right and a very famous corporate gym. I can't say
the name for person of personal reasons. I want to
freaking fire me. And so he walked in, like he
walked in the first set of doors, and I was
like holy. I was like, holy f is that Tommy Dreamer?
Because I could recognize the face and of course he's fat,

(16:40):
so I mean, like, how could you not recognize him
for that? And then he walked through the second group
of doors. I'm like, holy crap, that is Tommy Dreamer.
And he walked up. He's like, hey, can I get
a day pass for the day? How much is it?
Blah blah blah, said, you think you're paying for a
day pass? You're Tommy Dreamer. No, you get to walk
and then work out. We'll talk later. And he's like,
I owe you a photo. So yeah, there's a funnel

(17:00):
on my Instagram somewhere with me and Tommy Dreamer. When
I was at work one day and nobody understood my
hype for this, Like my co workers were like, who's
Tommy Dreamer? And I'm like, you don't get it. You
just don't get it. I'm not here to explain it
to you. You got I can't do it. Justice m

(17:22):
this was like what this was like probably around Christmas
time New Year's It was definitely before the New Year's
I think. But that was cool. Those were That was
a cool experience. Yeah, that's the one I can't see
for the for the camera, but that's got to be
it if you're showing.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Me very cool man, Yeah, very nice.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
It was super he was Yeah, he was super dope.
He was a very nice guy.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's so cool, dude, Tommy Dreamer is the man.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
And you know, it's funny. According to my co workers
who have been there much longer than I have, a
j A Styles has been known to go to that
gym and one our truth. So in the future there
might be a chance I can meet those guys too,
So we'll see what happens. If they can show up there,
it means anybody could show up there. I mean, if

(18:17):
Ripley shows up there. You don't my excitement, my pants.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
You have to go take a bathroom break.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, I gotta take a bathroom break. There's a problem
down there. I gotta deal with. You know, you'll get
it when you're older.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
So what other questions do you have for mesh?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Uh? What is your What was your favorite match?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Do you have an all time favorite match? One that
really stands out more than.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
That made you like? Happy cry?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Oh? Happy cry? Have you ever cried after a match? Yes,
like in excitement, in just pure joy, yes, like a
title match?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yes. Adam Cole versus Johnny Gargano NXT New York NX
takeover New York before WrestleMania. That was one of those days.
Edge winning the Rumble was probably another one. During the
COVID years. Ed return Oh yeah, Ed just returned. Well,

(19:22):
I didn't watch. I wasn't watching WWE. Then I was
watching NXT, but I wasn't watching Mayte Roster because I
was boycotting that because Johnsena beat aj Styles to win
the sixteenth title and I had a couple of year hiatus.
That's a long story. But I was watching NXT, so
I didn't even watch. I didn't even actually see that live.

(19:42):
I heard about it. I was like, he's back, but
uh and I started watching again because of Edge. But
as far as oh yeah, it's pretty obvious. But anyway, yeah,
Johnny Gargano and Adam Cole was definitely one that I
cried over. Uh God, I feel like there's an a

(20:06):
W one too, It's gotta be I haven't seen many
a W pay per views, but there's gotta be one.
I mean probably Sting's retirement got me emotional.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, oh god, same.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Michaels retirement for me.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Sean Michael's retirement match made you cry.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I mean it was kind of sad. I mean, do you.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Remember who he fought.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Und you take her?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Maybe it was okay wait wait wait, it's funny you
mentioned that, actually, Gunner. I'll tell you why, because the
first time I ever cried over wrestling was the night
after Wrestled made me at twenty six, when HBK retired
and I never saw him wrestle. So I cried because
I never saw him wrestle, because I'm like, fuck, oh shucks, sorry,

(20:56):
f okay. So I was just like, damn it, I
didn't see m wrestle, So I sobbed a little bit
when I went to bed.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Uh, I don't know if on our show, if you
saw the YouTube video or not. When we did our
WrestleMania forty one live extreme.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
The fight, was not watching any live streams. I was
watching the show on my own, so I wasn't watching
an inside So what happened.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
I'm gonna embarrass Gunner here, so you know. The opening
match for the whole show was Gunther and j Yes.
When Jay won, Yes, I thought I was gonna have
to call nine one one because he was hyper ventilating.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's adorable. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
But but it was so cool, like because because you
know the feeling like when your guy wins the strat,
not just any title, but the title mm hmm, your
guy gets it, the excitement you feel, dude, and and
seeing him like cause it it took me back to

(22:05):
the first time I saw it was star K ninety
seven Sting versus Hogan World Championship one. I had that
same reaction, and seeing my kid have that reaction was wild.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
You sent me somebody sent me the video of that.
It was either you were Tabby No.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
That was when Jay one rumbled.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Oh that was a rumble. Okay, that was also a
nice moment for your.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Reaction, same reaction from him. You can hear a gun
in the background going let's go.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I also.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, our sound cut out. He was screaming so out.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
It was, Oh, you made a life around him.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Oh dude, it's locked in, locked in. Call him ae
W because he's all in.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
So what was your reaction when he lost the title
on Monday? Oh? God, sad. You can be honest.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
He cried himself to sleep. That's okay, I get I
told him, I said, dude, I've been there. Man, I've
seen it. I know I know the feeling you're going through.
But other opportunities will present themselves to where Jay can
get it back.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
And on July eleventh, probably that's gonna happen. Yeah maybe SmackDown.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah did you hear about that?

Speaker 3 (23:26):
No, this is the first time Jay versus.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Gun throw on SmackDown in the street fight for the
World Heavyweight Championship.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Why are they doing smack then?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Are we sure it's not raw?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
No, it's SmackDown. They announced it today. It's on Socials.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
That's weird.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Also, and Morgan are going to fight again.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
That same, that's why do too beautif why do two
beautiful women have to fight? Listen, I know, I know
dirty Don did Rea dirty? And well we'll never we'll never,
we'll never forgive him for that. But did he really
did he really downgrade though? Like he's kind of like
up there still and he's then then Roxanne Perez is

(24:10):
simping over him a little bit. So I mean, like
Dom just Dom is Eddie's kid after all, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
He's he's just got all these mommies do.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
That when he hears me say that, I listen, I
love women.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I love women, and I especially love beautiful women like
Ria and uh and.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Live so Stephanie Vauquier, Yes, a hot Latino, mommy.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I I she could could say anything in that accent
and I.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Will melt no, can't.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Lyra Lyra Valkira, she's very pretty. Lyra Bailey, I'll tell
you what those belly's actingly.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
You know what, I used to think Bailey was ugly.
I used to think Bailey was uglier when I when
she was like doing the hugger gimmick.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
This is years ago, my mama.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
But now now Billy's got a she's she's gotten hotter
as she's gotten older. That's all I can say.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Who wants cake?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yeah, a lot of it behind there? God damn.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
But speaking of uh, speaking of Lyra, I'll tell you what, dude,
I'm a fan. She she cooks on the mic, she
cooks in there. I don't see why people think she's boring.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Dude, She's she's.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Boring lots of people.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
They are dumb. They're stupid, Dude.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Lyra is murdering, whether we promos or just in the
ring having a match.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Lyra consistently has the best matches on the shows half
the time.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
She's she's one of the outside of I'm gonna say
Bailey and EO Sky. Lyra is probably her name's in
that conversation.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yes, oh Bianca. Yeah, man, I love.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
A black queen Beyonc is it Naomi? No?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Namoi sucks?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
No, no, no, Naomi's an attractive women. If we're going
based off attractive this, No.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I'm talking about just like in general, I'm not a
heel person.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I don't like heels.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
How could you talk about cake and not mentioned Naomi? Mike, Dude,
you were contradicting yourself. Now you know who we're not
talking about though.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Jade Cargill, I was about to say that you still.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Actually I was not gonna mention Ja Crow. She's very
attractive with him, but I don't know I thought that
about her just I can't do.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Michelle the Undertaker's wife. Don't let anyone hear you say that.
He'll come after you.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
He could say, he could do whatever he wants. Michelle
mcoole could still get it. Uh man, Julia, are we
really gonna forget Julia here? Julia might be one of
the most beautiful women I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I like, I like Julia without the spaghetti care I'm
old spaghetti head.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Okay, see, I mean everyone, it's it's it's the braid.
The conversation surrounding the braids kisses me off because it's
such a stupid thing that people are mad about.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I'm sorry, it's a it's a takeaway for me, but
I get it.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
People are making it a race issue, which is even dumber.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
That's stupid.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
That's that's that's where I get upset about, Like, come on,
you're making a non issue out of something. Now. I mean,
does she look better which is regular hair? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
But sure mentions balloon cheeks, those balloons in her face.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Don't care beautiful probably honestly, Julie over Stephanie Vicaire. No
stand on that. Nope, wrong, you.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Don't wanna you don't You don't want a devil's kiss.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I never said I didn't, but I I certainly love
some beautiful madness.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I want to on Gunner's behalf. What are your thoughts
on Jay Usso's title reign in general?

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Okay, jay us So in general, I don't mind. I
wish they would step up his game as far as
in ring goes, because I feel like he uses the
same He had like a really good move set when
he was a singles wrestling when he started doing the
singles run, and it's kind of just devolved into like
three four moves, and I don't really care for that.

(28:39):
So I'm hoping that he kind of just becomes an
absolute demon in the ring, because like Jimmy has stepped
up his game a little bit when they have him
do singles. Yeah, but I don't think even though jay
has had the bigger push and the bigger success, I
don't think he's as good in ring as far as
I like Jay Uso. Don't get me wrong, I don't
want Gunner to hate me here because it's a lot

(28:59):
of thing I want first impression on the show. But
you know, I like jay Uso, but I I I
just think they need to do better with him. And
I think his title reign overall was a bit disappointing,
not exactly what I would hope for. Uh, and I did.
I wanted to end the way it did not necessarily either, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I could. I could get along with that. I agree.
I do think it's it's Jimmy's turn. What do you think, Gunner,
It's it's Jimmy's turn to get his moment in the sun.
Put a singles title on that man.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Won't be the world title, but give him the US title.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I remember a.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
J Lee. I can't talk ill of a fellow New
Jersey and it's impossible a j Lee Punk? Well, I
love Punk, but damn it. If he wasn't married to
AJ that would be my wife AJ.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I miss her. I miss her in there.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I miss her too rate well to laugh?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Why not laugh?

Speaker 3 (30:02):
But like you know, it's I uh was it one time?
This is my first ever wrestling event, by the way,
it was in what was it called at the time?
It was still there. It was the Cure Insurance Arena,
well what is now known as the Cure Insurance Arena
in Trenton, New Jersey, And it was me and my
best friend and his family went to a seat house
show and AJ was wrestling. I don't know who she

(30:23):
was wrestling at that time, but I was like, welcome home, AJ,
because she was from Union, New Jersey, which was more
up north. But you know, so I can't, like I said,
I can't talk ill with fellow New Jersey wrestler. That's
why I'm fans that. I'm fans of the likes of
guys like Jay Lethal and other. I don't know if
there's any other ones I could think of the top
of my head, but those are the two main ones.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, yeah, I feel you. What what other questions did
you have for mish?

Speaker 3 (30:51):
So?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
What are your thoughts of Maxie Duprim being a champion?
I've been thinking this for a little while.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Okay, Maxine Dupre taking a strap?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Matt at most women's tag team champion with nothing more,
nothing less. Yeah, I'm sorry to be the bearer of
bad dues for you on that one.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, with what Natalia. Yeah, pretty solid tag team, though
I think it.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Would be Tya would carry hard. I don't think Maxine
is bad. I think she's improved. I just don't. I
don't see her being as singles successfully anyway. She's more
of the jobber type.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
She's a filler.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, she's a filler. That's what she is. She's she's
there for eye candy and that is all. There's nothing
wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I'll tell you you know who I want to see
get a singles title again? Who I think? Really? I
think it would be cool to see even if the
rain doesn't last long. Otis, Yeah, put Otis back on
top where he used to be my bank winner.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Dude, they fumbled that with that would have so bad.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
You know who I'm happy for to return on Raw
for women Osco.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yes, they spoiled that on Monday.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
That was Yeah, that was a.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
How do they? How did they mess that up? That?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I dude, whoever did that, I guarantee you that guy
got fired.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I hope they did because that how do you? How
do you spoil the fact that Oscar's coming back? And
you're right, Gunner, it's great that she's back because Raw,
that's desperately needs. Honestly, huh. Both rosters have pretty solid.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Amount of women, But I think they should have kept
the Oscar thing silent until her music hit.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Like it's a like put a mystery person for the women's.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, make it a mystery. Well that's what it originally was,
and then somebody when they showed it again, boom, there
she is on the graphic.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
See the problem. The problem is that WWE lately has
sucked at surprises because they would rather spoil it in
a package than actually wait, like, for instance, the Penta thing,
the Ray Phoenix thing. This is why NXT does such

(33:21):
a better job with it, because like, you didn't expect guys,
well you probably did at some point, but you'd expected
so soon of guys like Bricky Starks to show up
so quickly Mariah May now Blake Monroe or something, you'd
expect her to show up as quickly as she did.
So it's like, I will, I feel like main roster

(33:43):
screws up surprises a lot, That's all.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know if you guys agree with this or not,
but I will say the Joe Henry surprise at WrestleMania
this year was that was great I.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, I don't think I've ever sang so hard in
my life.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
And Joe Hendry loses TNA World title. Trick Williams, Yeah,
congratulations to Trick Williams.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Truck Williams rules. He's going to be on the main
roster here soon. I'm putting money on that.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I think Argohead Gunner.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Missed being a teen A world champion, but Trick Williams
he did deserve it too.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
He's good, he's dude, he's talent.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
That's fine. I just thinking of it like this. If
Trick Williams is the it's the title holder right now.
That means Mike Santana is going to get it soon hopefully.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
They teased that a little bit a few tuesdays ago.
There there. It's gonna happen. Maybe not right now, but
it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Did you did you check out World's Collide last weekend?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I still have not watched it. I have to, I
still have not watched. I heard it was good, it
was sick.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
We got mister Iguana. That that guy is dope. I
love mister I Talk of the town right now. Yeah,
he was. He was in a triple threat match. Your
six Man Tag Team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Sorry, yeah, but he's almost like an arch two point
hs me.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Do you think it's like gold dust? I confuse him
with gold dust, that's what That's.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
What everybody says, gold dust, but with green. Yes, dude,
he's that dude can fly.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Well, it's good to know because I still have to
watch that show. Do you know what's weird? Because they
didn't have it on Peacock.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It was had it on.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
YouTube, which is dumb because I don't know why they
did that.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well, I think if you go on ww's YouTube channel,
it's the full show? Is there?

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Oh, I'm sure it is. I know I can find it.
It's just it's it's a hassle for me to look
for it.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
And I say it's a hassle because I'd rather watch
it on TV than sit here in this chair and
sit here for two hours because it'll just be mad, uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Uh yeah, it's oh shit, SmackDown is you can watch
SmackDown on YouTube right now? That's weird?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Really you doing simulcast now?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Let me see.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Oh, I got a question for you. What's your favorite
title in WWE? Right now? As far as look, that's
not who's holding it? But what it looks the prettiest.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
If you could pick any WWE title right now, which
one would you want? Like if you could go to
Fanatics and buy one, which one are you buying? I have?
I have mine? What's your? But you go first? The
best looking?

Speaker 3 (36:39):
It might have.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
To be the one, no current, the one right now,
not not this beautiful piece of art that I'm.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, see that. That would have been my answer if
it was all time. That's my answer to I'm jealous
of you still very much.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
This is my fortieth birthday present and I cherish it.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Oh, somebody gives me something that nice when I turned forty.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I love this belt as much as I love him.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I heard that.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Hey, that means he loves you as much as that belt,
which means that you you have the same. He loves
you a lot. That means he loves you a lot,
Gunner very much.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
It took me forty years to get this bad boy.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Listen, listen, Gunner. I mean he probably loves you as
much as you love your Yeat championship. That was all
over the internet, mister famous over here.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yes, you'll donk like I didn't see that, Yeah, dude,
he's on the stadium's website him with his title walking
into Monday Night Raw.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
It's Young Centers and Stock and Facebook.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah. Man, that's a big deal. Though, I've never been
that lucky to end up on TV that like that.
I've ended up on TV, but I've never been on
a I've never been that like shown like I've been
on What's It. I've been front row for MLW shows
and I've been shown on TV during aw rampage at

(38:09):
one point, but that was about it.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
His photo is the feature on that day, was the
feature photo from the whole night.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah, which is cool. You should that should be something
you should be proud of when you when you go
back and you get older, I go back and look
at that photo and I wanted you to be proud
at it because think about it like this, for you
being so young and just getting into wrestling, like what
in the last year or so, The fact that you
got something like a moment like that is cool.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
And it happened at a lot of people don't get it.
And it happened at your first ever Monday Night Raw
that too, at Raw, one of the most iconic shows
of all time.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
You know, it was my mom talking shouts to my mom.
By the way here in taproom tabs, shout out, shouts.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Shout out.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
But no, what do you think is the best looking
title right now?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I don't know, there's a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I like, if you could pick one, if you could
pick just one, which one would you want to buy? Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:18):
God?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Who is it? The Intercontinental title? The one that has
it's it's a pretty sick looking, sick looking belt. I mean,
I'm into the Intercontinent title? Is it the US?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yes? Is that? Is that?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Is it the US title? What about you, mish, I'm
gonna go the world title, World heavyweight.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I think the World Heavyweight title is probably the best
looking one. I mean, the the old, the current, like
the w W Championship has been the same, just different
colors for like the last what ten years almost now,
So it's not really all that special to me. It's
just like I said, it's the same thing with different colors. Yeah,
So I'm I'm like something that's a little bit more

(40:02):
like old school but still new, and I think the
World Heavyweight title does that for me. M I like
the big W in the middle, still not necessarily, but
it's still prettier than yeah, a lot of other championships,
and and the Tag Team Championships look really nice too.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I like the which ones Smackdowns, you know what I
like about those? It looks like it's the same style
as the Attitude era, Yes.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Exactly, it's the same style as the Attitude and Ruth
of Suggretion era SmackDown titles.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
And I'm not saying that the WWE. The ones on
Raw aren't that bad either. They're not like ugly looking,
it's just that they're not. When you compare the two,
there is no comparison.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
I mean, I like, I like those titles. Also, I
think they're pretty cool in their own right. I like
the circle and all the red that's the red and
gold looks pretty solid.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
But the smack it looks like a pizza to me,
and it makes me hungry when I look at that.
The Raw Tag Team Championships, Yeah, they look like a
pizza to me. Makes me hungry.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
The SmackDown ones kind of put that like it takes
me back to when I first got into w w
E thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Not to mention the SmackDown titles have been booked much better.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yes, well, there's more than three tag teams going for.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Them, yeah, or two tag teams because half the time
they showed the same tag teams on the freaking show.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, but no, I think that the my favorite looking
title right now. I'm gonna go US.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
The US isn't bad.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Something about that giant eagle on it, dude, it just
it looks dope.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
I'm still partisan to the old US title.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Look, yeah, No, I mean I get it that that
was a cool belt, the big flag on it. Yeah,
I know. Something about that giant gold eagle.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
It's nice. I really, I really like it. To him,
not saying it's ugly. I just I'm just if I
was to pick between the two US titles, I'm probably
going toward the more classic. Look.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, that was a cool I like how when Big
Show won that title, it looked like it looked like
an adult holding a child's toy replica.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Big Show holding any title looks like a child or
a replica title next to him.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
It looks like someone's dad holding holding his kid's toy belt.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah. Well, this is going to do it for the
legendary a podcast. This is going to wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I'm gonna, well, miss, do you have anything you'd like
to plug.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yes, I do, actually, thank you for mentioning. If you'd
like to follow me on my Twitch streaming and YouTube endeavors,
you can follow Edge zero six two six and subscribe
and follow and watch my streams when I go back
to doing them, because I haven't done him in a
little while, So follow me there and uh.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Holler, hey, yeah man, I'm Gunner. I'm dead and I'm
the michelin Man.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
That's the radiar superstar of podcasting.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah you think you know him? No, because I don't
want you to get sued.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Yeah, well, as I love that song, but I don't
want to risk you getting sued Gunner. You're too young
for that.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
It's it's yeah, there's copyright. You'll when you get older,
you'll understand.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
When you're older, you'll understand that. I feel like that
could be the title of so so many innuendus were
said in this and I'm just like, you'll get it
when you're older.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
He's a learning boy.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Good, good good. I'll be the I'll be the big
brother from from like what three states away, four states away,
and I'll be able to teach you everything I know.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
When you get old, let your uncle mish uh. He can.
He can guide.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
You and be a fun uncle. I'd be a fun
I don't think people realize I'd be a fun uncle.
Thank you for having me, Gunner. It was a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
It was good, Senior bro.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
It was good seeing you too. Bros. We'll get we'll.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Get you back on tap room like really soon, I
hope so hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Shout out to my dad being on here soon.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Oh, shout out to me, Thank you, Bud. Shout shout
out to mom.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
All right, everyone sh
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