S2 E7: Lemon Popsicle

In this latest episode of The Lemon Squeeze, we dive into the complexities of life – the balance between hustle and relaxation, the tough times and joyful moments, and the world of celebrities and their influence. Sasha Cassadine and our sensational co-hosts, Mr. E.O Cassadine and Lady Cummeal Cassadine Ninja lead the conversation, touching upon issues like fluctuating winter weather, anticipation for spring, celebrity gossip, the impact of allegations, and the influence celebrities wield.

Major highlights include discussions around the British tabloids' fascination with celebrities, the controversial photoshopped pictures of Kate Middleton, conversations about the late Queen Elizabeth and the newly crowned King Charles, and the scandalous allegations made against well-known television stars; each narrative adding a unique perspective to the conversation.

Despite unpacking some serious topics, this episode does not hold back on the fun, with personal stories, intriguing insights, and engaging discussions. Join The Lemon Squeeze as we encapsulate a refreshing blend of serious discourse and entertaining banter into one compelling and memorable listening experience.

Episode Transcript

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All right, children, welcome to another episode of The Lemon Squeeze.
I know we've been missing in action, but mama gets busy sometime,
and I have to do what I got to do.
I got to make my coins, and I'm not going to lie, the winter time gets tough.
It gets a bit depressing, and all I want to do is sit at home and play video games. Mm-hmm.

(00:20):
But I can't do this fabulous show without my wonderful co-hosts. We got Mr. E.O.
Cassidyne in the house. Beep, beep, beep, beep. We got Lady Camille Casadei Ninja.
How you feeling? And on today's episode, I have my very chatty boyfriend.
Go ahead, say something. Hi. Oh, wow. My name's Greg. There you go, very chatty.

(00:45):
Yes, I'm back. You're back? This is my second appearance. Your second appearance. Oh, appearance.
Oh, you made an appearance last time. You were here last time.
Welcome, everyone. everyone thank you for listening i know y'all gonna be excited
that we're putting out a new,
episode but we don't have like that many
topics to talk about tonight we're just gonna chat today it's

(01:06):
gonna be a very chatty day like i said april and
it's like 19 degrees outside it's quite depressing april
my body is still no it's not april it's mine april you
already know when it get to like the 20th for me and drag
time it's april yeah i'm already getting costumes ready for
april okay but anyway y'all

(01:28):
it's been like what 19 20 degrees outside it's
too damn cold no but last week it
was 40 50 60 yeah and again
the very next day it was back to 29 no back to
a blizzard okay it actually snowed the other day and i think they just said
on i heard my alexa before i walked to the house i think we have a winter advisory

(01:49):
yeah it's gonna snow goodness tomorrow sunday nope oh my goodness so through
taste the goodness of the biscuit.
I'm just singing random shit that's gonna be going great my body
is still like even though i've been here for like 15 16 years my
body is still tennessee it's telling me that it's supposed to be warm outside

(02:13):
i'm supposed to be wearing shorts and flip-flops well i was just in a skirt
last week yeah and i'm just like now i can't wear my skirts like i couldn't
look cute this weekend i was really mad man girl go play you still gonna put
a mini skirt on greg how is it being here from from california it's been.

(02:35):
How how is the greg tell us hello always getting silenced by other queers in
the community it never fails it never fails.
Welcome to minneapolis can you tell us can you tell us it's been very dynamic
compared to you know the 60 to 80 degree weather back home where i'm from the

(02:58):
west coast but you know i enjoy.
Literally the cold a lot more because it is way
more uncomfortable to be like outside sweating and like
hot versus like being outside where you
can bundle up and get warm easier oh i know i've been
in california in july it feels like hell honey that's

(03:19):
not even a number for how hot it is california in july
i i feel like i disagree because i
feel like i when you when you go outside and
be hot yeah it's hot but i feel like i
can take it being hot more than being cold for too long like
when you go outside you think you bet to go outside and grab the uber eat
so you don't bring a coat and then you're out there for like five minutes waiting

(03:40):
for this dude to get there it it wears in on you you
know no i mean i i agree i understand
where you're coming from because like i love me a big comfy sweater you
know i love a little the cushion the the layering
but it's much easier for me to cool off than it is for me to heat up okay so
like that's one of the reasons i prefer summer winter down because it's easier

(04:02):
for me to cool off i can always hop in a pool you know set up some little fans
take a nice cool shower but if i try to take a warm shower during the winter,
oh baby, every muscle in my body is going to cramp.
I'm going to have a charley horse. I'm going to be in pain.
You know, like when you're trying to wrap under that blanket and your cold feet
touch your butt and you're like, ah.
I don't mind. I guess I don't mind the winter while the winter sales are going

(04:27):
well, the sweaters and trench coats.
But it is March now. As you know, in the mall, they've already taken all the
cute winter stuff down and preparing us for the springtime. So a bitch can't go buy shit.
But like California winter is literally December through February.
Like right now, like when we go next week, it's going to be in the 80s.
Oh, that sounds beautiful.

(04:48):
Wonderful. I'll be outside smoking. that's the winter well no
they're they're already they're ended in february because
we're at the end of march yeah got you and what what would
have been like what would the temperature have been the coldest i think there was
40 30 degrees yeah we would have loved this
we would be outside no trying to go swimming and everything over a dare queen

(05:10):
getting ice cream the last time that he visited i was like why are you outside
swimming in 60 50 degree weather and he was like what are It's warm outside. It's fabulous out here.
What are you talking about? Wait till you live here long enough.
Wait till after you go through this blizzard. Then you're ready.
I guarantee you. I will say this. I feel bad for you because this winter in

(05:32):
particular has been a weirdo.
And it's been so, what did you say? You said dynamic.
It's been up and down. Just like Minnesotans itself. It goes hot and cold. Okay, Katy Perry.
Do you ever feel speaking of kt but not kt but kate middleton oh great transition

(05:57):
yeah that was a good transition yeah blaming on the wee honey taste.
Anyway we were sitting watching i don't know what we were looking at greg showed
me like this supposedly photoshopped picture of kate middleton it's not supposedly
it's it is photoshopped but But anyway,
she allegedly, she was supposed to be sick at the time when the picture was taken.

(06:20):
She was supposed to have some medical condition. Was it cancer? Was she going through?
I don't think it was cancer. I think there was just a lot of speculation because
she hasn't been seen in the public eye.
And she posted that photo with the prints not in it. Kind of like trying to
establish, hey, I'm here still.

(06:41):
The kids are fine. We're all fine. people went and dug
up and it's an old ass photo and you can see where like the
hand like the child's hands the fingers like cross weird
and uh oh things missing like the baby look like you
got six fingers like yeah and then there's like a cuff like
like digitally like not like right on i i don't know what i was reading but
i was trying i really couldn't understand first of all what the issue with the

(07:04):
freaking photo was well the issue is she's supposed to be sick and allegedly
they They said she is supposed to be dead, apparently.
She's missing a wall. She's MIA. I'll say MIA, but dead, MIA.
And then there was a video that just came out recently.
Where they said that the woman that was in the video was not Kate Middleton.

(07:24):
Honestly, I'm not going to lie to you. I wonder why this is important,
honey. Why is this important?
Well, we care about our celebrities. And yes, regardless of what you may think.
In a certain way, Kate Middleton is a celebrity.
And especially in this time. The UK. The UK.
I mean, I will say, like, I was that kid that when Will and Kate got married,

(07:46):
I woke up at four in the morning so that I could watch that wedding happen live.
I wasn't that dedicated but i loved
royal later on i i enjoyed that he
had found her and i love the room their
their romance story and you know all that other good
stuff i'm gonna answer her like that well i've never been to a wedding so that
was the first time actually seeing a wedding oh i still haven't got to the okay

(08:08):
well okay that was a little more maybe that's what i just think that this story
and again we're gonna gossip because gossip is gossiping but why is this This is an important story.
Well, what I was trying to say was in this day, people like to know what's going
on with their celebrities.
We haven't seen your celebrity in a while. You reach out on social media or
you make a post like where you've been at.

(08:30):
We haven't heard or seen from her. We thought she was buried under the castle somewhere.
And she was like, okay, I'm here, thriving and surviving.
And she just wanted everyone to have the opinion that they're happy and, you know, whatever.
She didn't really feel like taking a picture. She's like, I got a picture of us happy. We cool.
I'm not going to lie. I don't care about the royals anymore.

(08:52):
After Queen Elizabeth passed away, that's it for me. You know?
I just like to have one dog.
We don't even talk about Prince Charles, King Charles, my bad,
King Charles, who is also going through his own medical episode.
He's only been king now, what, for like maybe a couple months.
Man, and he's already about to be dethroned. Wait, she's been dead for two years?
She just died. She's been dead for like maybe a year or so.

(09:16):
A couple she's pretty old yeah at least one year
in some months baby because yeah because it was it there's like
a mourning period that they have to go through yeah he has anal cancer
oh my uh yeah and then supposedly
his wife also passed away correct she passed to camilla yeah oh yeah god i think
she's that's why this is very crazy because next in line is you know henry and

(09:38):
the children and that's why they're saying oh he had an affair with kate's bestie
and the bestie's He's keeping the child and it's going to cause the lineage some like.
But again, the royals, I don't think the royals are even that important anymore.
They've already, a few countries have already said they wanted to succeed from the crowns.
So like, I think after Queen Elizabeth, that was the end of the monarchs in

(10:01):
the UK. Camilla's still alive. Camilla is still alive.
Camilla is still alive. Is it? Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
But yes, one of his wives did die, yes. Diana died, yeah. So supposedly Kate
Middleton is supposed to have been Diana'd.
Oh, that makes sense now. Yeah, and they said that all of this,
they said she's supposed to be sick and she is not doing so well,

(10:24):
but the crown is trying to cover it up.
Anyway, again, I don't know why this story is even important.
We live in America. Hell, hell.
Y'all, I'm just being shady. Anyway, I hope she's okay.
You know we don't want i don't
i wouldn't wish anyone to be sick or going through anything and again
why does it matter next subject another day

(10:46):
another day next subject shangela oh
my good yes yes yes yes this brings me
no pleasure i don't think i'm gonna have too many jokes about this
one allegedly shannon shangela
is being accused of several sexual
what do you call it sexual assaults one

(11:08):
drugging i think that's what i read it although the rolling stones article if
you haven't read it you can check it out i think it's just an online article
correct rolling stone because i was like dang shangela you that famous rolling
stone right move out your girl but not in a positive way though this is disheartening
because i feel like celebrities.
Already in general go through a lot of this and shangela

(11:31):
you know i got to meet her a few times and
hang out with her i think that if this
is true this is sad i can't see shangela doing
something like this but if this isn't true
then i really really feel bad for her because just
knowing her personally she just does not seem like the
kind of person that would throw themselves on someone

(11:52):
or take advantage but who knows yeah you know
i mean we see it we see it a lot on both ends on the
on the celebrity end of being inundated
with such realizing let me say realizing how much
power you have because of where you are now stationed and
having that easy influence and i mean i feel like some of
us uh see it here how people are willing to do things

(12:13):
for us without asking or if we ask because they value us in some you know to
some regard like that but you also have on the fan side of you know utilizing
that i think we saw with lizzo yeah and i'm not even and they weren't fans those
were like dancers who will work sit there yeah who will sit there and.

(12:34):
Come up with these things in order to get
proximity into your celebrity yeah right uh and
again not saying that shangri-la did this not saying that shangri-la didn't
do this because i'm not there i'm not present i just have what the article
shared but at the same time it's like it's this weird
tricky situation because it's like you want
to believe the victim but it's but

(12:55):
we also know how straight people can be sometimes exactly and
so it's it's such a and even just just saying that is kind
of like icky feeling but it's just it's just
to have that also not to just have that but have that on another
queer black i don't
know that's what i think that's what's really disheartening to
me you know as a black person it hits a little differently because

(13:17):
it's like oh shit i really hope this is not true like i
really hope this is not true i just don't see why when and this
is a little dick why when we people of color we get
famous because of all of of the people that were
alleging all of these assaults were either caucasian
i think most of them were caucasian correct i'm not.
Sure if all of them were caucasian but i know a few of them were yeah

(13:39):
it's just like and why 18 23 year olds
like shangela is like 40 and yeah my
partner is very young by the way but he hit on
me okay there's a difference like
he hit on me we mutually wanted each other and
that was fabulous but i think that when you are someone
of shangela status status or even any of those

(14:00):
rude girls why would you even want to take a chance and bring
somebody to your hotel room after you
it's just too much going on in the world you know personally
i honestly i was telling greg i would think somebody was trying to
steal my money honey you're not coming to my room because if i'm too drunk to
know your ass is coming i'm too drunk to know you snooping around digging through
my pants and my my suitcase yeah no no i'll hang out with you in the hotel i

(14:24):
mean in the club we can make out kiss kiss kiss and give me your phone number
and I'll call you. Yeah. That's that.
I mean you know i gotta fly well i mean i can't be
doing all that but that's why you do what you need to do in
the club that part baby you know back in
my youth i wasn't against a little stall action oh my
goodness honey listen all that's hot

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and sexy but i'm too old for that if i have a hotel room that's
where we are going no no no we're not going back
there because you're not going to steal me well my thing what you
finna steal my debit card i just got a canceling go if you are a drag
queen we have tips honey okay okay okay you
know what yeah okay i'm i'm you gotta
remember we gotta think about drag and if i'm out

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of the country and i can barely understand anything you're saying to me i'm
not bringing you to my hotel room okay wait a minute in the country if i'm too
drunk to even remember what color you are what you was wearing the night before
how your breath smelled okay well was your shoes dirty were some of them international was this No,
this was all American. This was all American. Oh, okay.

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We also, you know, girls travel everywhere.
There was one in the UK. Okay. You know, I mean, they travel everywhere.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. I just didn't, I don't know why I just didn't think,
because it sounds like, and mind you, liars can come from everywhere,
but it sounds like some American boy type.
Well, one of them, one of the accusers was a part of the We're Here series.
And they were, so when this first came up,

(15:52):
I believe it was because of the We're Here series that the
first allegation was presented but
as i as i was saying when we were before we started recording is that
like it got kind of swept under the rug pretty quickly i don't
know what happened or why i did but it kind of like went quiet well allegedly
from what i read somebody she settled out of court with someone and that's the

(16:12):
lawsuit it wasn't like trying to get you prosecuted so you can go to jail they
sued for money and settled yeah it happened pretty quickly So when this came up,
I was like, oh no, oh no.
And it was many more than just the one. And I want to say that was maybe a year or two ago.
I heard that they like literally, this took a few years to do this whole hit piece.

(16:37):
That's what I call pieces like that. Because it's a hit piece.
No matter what, somebody...
She's she's do you think that she will be ruined from this
be personally i think so i feel like
yes now so this is what i feel like the conversation actually
is do we do we believe the accuser
or do we believe the accused like we've all been saying

(16:58):
like i met shangela i was only around her for one day
but she doesn't give me the vibe of
someone who's gonna drug and then proceed to try to rape
you or get you yeah i don't get that but he doesn't seem like that
type of person but then they never do well that's what i
was about to say and the devil's advocate and we'll probably touch on this when we talk about
quiet on set a lot of those a lot of

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the people that they talk about in their charismatic very sweet
you know and you know even even the one that they
centered on homie had a whole side
of the courtroom in support of him of people that have
worked with him they were like he have watched and grown up
with there was like he would never do this you know and i'm
not again not saying that she angela did it not saying that she did do

(17:40):
it but the person that we get and we experience this
even within the local community the person that we get
when people interact with us it can be vastly different
than the person that they are when we're not
around oh yeah definitely you know yeah i agree and and i know a few people
who do that just regular and i don't even like because it's like oh you act
like this in front of the crowd but as soon as that curtain closes you are a

(18:01):
whole different person different person so it's just like it's just that and
like i feel like it's just one of those things that we We just got to watch this take place.
And let the courts decide. Exactly. I need the evidence.
We're going to let them decide. And whatever they decide is what the outcome
will be. I just, I wish her well. You know, I hope that this isn't true.
And if it isn't, you got to be more careful, honey. Yeah. You girls out here,

(18:26):
I get it. You get that celebrity status.
And even locally, you know, being a queen of my status, I've encountered my
own fair share of foolishness.
You just have to be able to weed that crap out because people are always in
it either for the access, the financial gain, or just the celebrity status of

(18:46):
being attached to someone like Shangela.
But this probably will turn into a lawsuit.
And that's how we're going to know exactly what it is because,
again, you got to be more careful.
I wish Shangela Well, you know, hopefully people, other rule girls or the entertainers
of status use this as a caution to be more careful.

(19:08):
Get you a damn boyfriend to settle the hell down. I hope for the best.
Best result of this situation towards healing. So whether that is,
this is true and the accusers get the public justice that they deserve,
or whether this is not true and Shangela gets the healing that she gets,
whatever the best outcome for this in terms of healing,

(19:29):
I mean, hopefully that's where- This will take us a little longer though,
because we all saw immediately what happened to Johnny Depp.
You know, we all saw immediately what happened to a lot of these men,
you know, that people probably 100% didn't even know if it was true or false.
The allegation alone, especially as a man of color, as a person of color,

(19:51):
because I don't want to misgender, Changel, is damning in itself because you're a person of color.
And I know people get tired of hearing the same race record,
you know, rewinding over and over again, but we have to always acknowledge.
And like Maya Angelou said, in order to do anything, you got to go through it when it comes to racism.
You can't go around it. You can't go under it. You have to go through it.

(20:15):
And we have to deal with the pain of it in order to push forward.
So bringing it up is just acknowledging the fact that this country still has
a huge issue when it comes to minorities and the way they are perceived in the media.
Shangela gets accused of rape or sexual abuse from several different people.
Shangela probably will lose a lot from this. And that's unfortunate.

(20:38):
Hopefully, Shangela didn't do this.
But if she did, I mean, wow. Yeah. I'll say that just wow.
And I think if you read the article, she did acknowledge that she hung out with four of them.
So there it goes. That's all you need to know. and I'm sure she just being honest
but that's already damning in itself yeah.

(21:01):
Yeah, well, we'll see how this plays out. It brings me no pleasure at all.
Shangela, I wish you well.
I guess also to the people who have allegedly went through these, I also wish them well.
This is just horrible from all sides.
Can I just tell you one quick thing? For the people in our community directly,

(21:22):
if you have been a victim of abuse, for those of us who don't understand.
We need full transparency. You cannot hold it in.
If you need to point the finger at someone, you need to tell someone and we
need to know the whole thing.
I feel like a lot of people who have tried to come out and say they were abused,
they end up still protecting the abuser by not wanting to out them publicly.

(21:45):
If you cannot do that, how can I help you?
Build a safer space yeah exactly and well
said by the way and it's i think the best thing we can do especially
for enemy communities create a safe enough space where
they feel the agency and the comfort to
bring to bring that because again we can't do anything you can't do anything

(22:06):
if we don't know at the same time we also have to acknowledge how tough it may
it may be to process this exactly to go through this to navigate it to even
find the right words to say it you know So I think on one end,
we want to encourage them to find that safe place where they can express it.
But also, our responsibility is just continuing to create safe enough spaces

(22:31):
where that is the place where they can fill that agency to express that,
share it, and help navigating it.
Because it is really difficult. And as someone who has gone through it,
it is difficult to talk about.
Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. You can't, it's tough.
I'll just say that, you know, again.

(22:52):
I just ask that being as someone who's seen it happen already,
the toughest part was the not knowing.
It's like you say you're ready to admit to being abused, but you also don't want to.
It's tough. It really is. You
just have to be supportive of whatever decision that they make, period.
Point blank. And again, just creating a safer space. Yeah. Creating a safer

(23:14):
space. I hope everyone gets the healing that they need.
Yeah. Yeah, I do too. all of them love
peace and oof child that
was deep yeah that was dark speaking of deep and dark
oh my goodness i've had the misfortune of
watching because i wasn't into nickelodeon up but i guess when all of these

(23:36):
things what's the name of this show again i'm no so what is it so i watched
it's on hbo max if you want to check it out and immediately when i I saw that
documentary, I love looking at my dark documentaries,
I was going to avoid it because I realized that in my generation,
I'm 43 right now, we already went through our child stars, Drew Barrymore and

(23:59):
a bunch of other ones that I watched grow up and go through so many different
things from drug abuse to sexual abuse.
There was a lot of allegations being flown around. So did not think that we
would get to the point where we hear some of our favorite nickelodeon wild stars from.
All that from drake and john drake and josh from

(24:22):
the amanda show which we know a lot about the amanda byne situation like there
are so many allegations but i think the darkest one for me was to know that
the drake bell suffered at the hand of one of the producers it was he was the
uh He was the dialogue coach,
which is just a fancy way of saying acting coach for the person.

(24:44):
Well, wow. Like, so...
And i can't i can't be said alleged for this because he
was charged with this correct yeah yeah yeah yeah so this guy
i forget his name his last name is brian and brian
peck not related to not related which
is what i thought and first and i was like oh what was accused
of and charged for sexually

(25:06):
assaulting drake drake bell the charges
went as far as you know oral compilation to
sodomy with foreign objects forced recording
hiring a minor for pornography hiring
a minor for pornography for enlisting sorry the word
the listing a minor enlisting because he was recording the

(25:27):
that was disgusting and and
as i was saying before we started recording it's wild
to think all this was happening right before
the nickelodeon period that really raised the generation starting with Drake
and Josh when children's sitcoms really took off yeah as in the I would say

(25:49):
comfortably the golden age of children's television where we had we had Disney
Channel doing Hannah Montana That's So Raven.
Suite Life of Zack and Cody then on Nickelodeon we've got Drake and Josh,
iCarly, Sam and Cat you know Victorious we have Zoey one-on-one you know we
have all of these golden age and this is like one of the most positive times
for me growing up up watching these shows and then to watch this and realize

(26:11):
that he had gone through all of that and still maintained that show.
As one of the leads yeah you would you would know
and it's again it's one of those things like you don't know what you don't know because you
could not tell me that you could watch drake and josh now and find
where he was going he looked like he was going through
that or even the amanda show i think what was the saddest part to me is to know

(26:32):
that this guy was charged with all of these crimes and went on to work for disney
other children's shows and and and was a charged sex offender but But this is
before the big sex offender law where you have to register and everything.
And to yes and what you're saying, what's also the most disgusting is that like
when the people that he worked with who were well aware of what had happened

(26:56):
had gone to different stations and different channels to work with them.
And he came to work with them.
Their response when they're asked like, why didn't you say anything about the
situation? They're like, well, we had no say in the casting.
Thing no yeah you don't have a say in who gets cast but
you all you do have a say of being like hey just so you
know you cast this person this was our experience with them you know not maybe

(27:19):
not your personal issues but this is what we know occurred at this other place
maybe they're not a safe person to have around here with children right but
everyone wants to deflect the blame and not take accountability and then like
when you know something and you know that it's a harmful.
Something to a harmful knowledge to have i personally
feel like it's your responsibility to make it known to the proper people

(27:41):
so if you have a child molester on
your set or in your space or in your school and you
know that i personally find it to be your responsibility to
go to the proper authorities and inform them in case they don't know
if they know already okay yes that's
how we should do it and it's 2024 that's how we should
be doing it right now back then especially especially

(28:02):
no but i'm going to say when like
how can you be brave enough first of all when you work in that type of environment
it's already a popularity contest so the new
guy walks in and you're like oh wait i think that guy might be a sexual predator
the first thing people are going to do is look at you and be like well what's
your issue with the guy right like don't you think that it could come off that

(28:24):
way i'm just saying yes it could be but that's hard to point something like
I don't think you can work with this guy.
That's why I was saying, I'm not saying go to chit-chat about it on the set at the craft table.
I'm saying go to the people in charge. And really make a complaint about it.
And formally be like, hey, I'm telling you that this happened. It's not gossip.

(28:45):
It's not hearsay. I was a part of this team. He's been convicted.
I'm pretty sure he spent time in jail.
Well, so to your point.
And Mr. Peck was also taking, people were taking up for him.
They were saying that, you know, people were, because he was getting.
Writing him letters of support. They were like, you know, you're going after

(29:07):
this queer homosexual man.
Of course, you're going to call him a sexual, a rapist. Of course,
you're being homophobic.
So even after all of these allegations, even after he went to court and everything,
people still feel like he was set up.
They feel like, you know, that the young man baited him. And I think one of
the words they used was seduced.
This is an issue with a child.

(29:29):
Well, he was a child, but he was a teenager. 13, 14. 13, 14. 15.
So what they're trying to, because I think there were already issues with his dad not liking Mr.
Peck with his son because he was gay. And I think that was the reason why daddy
was ousted because some of the other people higher ups were like,

(29:53):
oh, well, you are being a homophobe and this guy shouldn't be around.
So this already sets this table for this white queer man.
Again, he's white. Let's acknowledge that. Let's acknowledge.
Yeah. Again, he's white.
And I hate to acknowledge it. Not in not trying to bring up the race thing every
time we just point out that how things are different. Because I feel like if

(30:13):
this was a person of color, they would have been raked under the coals.
They would have instantly believed this young man. Because this is about money,
y'all. This is how the capitalistic society we live in.
Because people, once they found out about this, if you really cared about those
children, y'all would have got that man the hell out of there.
But because this man helped to cultivate some of the most popular shows,

(30:35):
he was around helping to produce them, put them together, or helping them with gripping it in.
They were thinking about the money they were thinking about
the profit 100 not truly thinking about
the so that's another thing do as a
parent your son comes to you
tells you all these things we go to court we this man gets charged with this

(30:59):
do you let your kid go back on the me personally no my kid we're done with this
okay and i'm not done with this i'm gonna make i'm gonna go far hard as I can
to make sure this man never works again.
But we also got to side out these parents. Your son went through this and you
still want to let them work on the show? I hear you on that.
And I also see why, because he went through one of the most horrific experiences in his life.

(31:27):
To take his dream of being on television and an actor away would just deepen
in that depression and sorrow.
So he was just getting his, because when this all hit is when he found out that
he was going to headline Drake and Josh.
So you're about to get your own show. So it's one of those like double-edged
swords of like, let him find the fun and have the fun of living out his dream

(31:50):
now knowing that he doesn't have to experience this anymore.
But knowing that this man that was charged of being a sexual- A sex predator.
Predator is still allowed to come back and work on set.
No, he had to go to Disney Channel. So a completely different set than Paramount
Studios or Nickelodeon.
So he wasn't around on nickelodeon set anymore but he had left and just went

(32:12):
to a different company to work okay and so drake was because i was like protected
ultimately after that and.
Honestly feel like drake and josh probably gave him some
some foundation to ground on because it's like a situation like
that has to the floor has to just drop from well i don't think
he did anything he went he said so he said

(32:32):
he went through a lot he went through you know drug drug abuse he went
through because he was trying to cope arrested for child endangerment so
he did not it did not end well for
him but beforehand someone asked before we
started recording i mean someone asked about you know
how could you endure something like that in order
to you know basically gain celebrity or to gain this and gain that as

(32:54):
an actor as a performer i was joking but
i was kind serious too especially coming
from someone who I feel like
at the time at the age I would have had to have been for that yeah
my mother would have been in there my father probably would have been there
if I was making money and they would have been the ones that would have probably
pulled me out had they gotten some type of whatever but as you mostly know that

(33:18):
I you know I don't really have a strong relationship with my parents so if it
were just me at that time I honestly feel like Like I would have endured.
Yeah, this sucks. No, I don't want to do this, but I have my own show coming
out. Exactly. I'm making money.
I'm a celebrity. People know my name. I just feel like at that time,
especially if I didn't have a manager or a parent to notice this and make it

(33:40):
stop, I probably would have endured like he did.
But even if you have a parent, because his dad saw the weirdness from the get.
Yeah. You know, so even if you can, it's a great example of like,
even if you have a parent, and this is what you were saying earlier too,
there were so many loopholes in the child labor laws and the laws that they
had set, that they quote unquote had set up to protect these children,

(34:01):
because obviously they didn't protect these children.
They were set up in the way that there were enough loopholes in them.
Not only that, as I was saying earlier, is that like a lot of these people are
the most charming people.
Most manipulative, most, quote unquote, caring people that a lot of that they
meet with to the point where I think we watched it with each of the kids that

(34:22):
talked about being abused,
how there was a level of comfort built well before they got to that point.
So at the point where Drake was going to this man's house for private classes,
going to, you know, being invited to Disney, even the young,
the young woman at the very beginning who kicks off this sort of chain of the
predators that were on set in Nickelodeon.

(34:43):
Even she the guy built a relationship
and they pick the special one the one that they really
engage with the one they really take a liking to and whatnot
which makes me which also makes me believe that there's no way that dan schneider
didn't do something oh well to go off of that it's you have to honestly i would
say you guys should if you're really want some more insight on it jeanette mccurdy's

(35:04):
book really does go yeah deeper into it going back how you said like Like,
you know, the parents, you know, should be sighed.
Yes, they definitely should. Because Jeanette's mom is a good example of a bad
parent allowing this shit to happen.
Because she was the main source of income in her household.
She was paying for her mom, her grandparents, like, her brothers. Like, all of their shit.

(35:25):
Like, when she landed her role on iCarly, like, that was huge.
And then she got her own spinoff show.
Same thing happened with her. She said, the creator took me out to lunch on Sunset.
Right there. across from the nickelodeon studios
and was like hey we have a show proposed for you
it was first just gonna be a sam show but for
some reason they attached ariana to it

(35:48):
later on but this is when ariana was blowing up and
like ariana didn't always have to be there on set but jeanette mccurdy did and
she hated that they were showing her favoritism because ariana was still racking
money for nickelodeon through her music and they're like okay that's fine girl
like you get to leave but Jeanette you gotta work overtime like you gotta be
here to make up for it and Jeanette was like what the fuck like.

(36:11):
It sucked. Yeah, they talked about that, too. They talked about the laws where
the kids were supposed to be out at a certain time, but they would be in these
sets until like 4 or 5 a.m.
And still have to go to school and deal with school the next day.
And I don't think it's ever directly said in the documentary.
But it's heavily alluded to that the kids were the manipulation middleware to control the parents.

(36:37):
Parents so they so rather than being like hey
mr or mrs johnson you know we have another
scene to record it's probably gonna take maybe like 20 30 minutes are you
okay if they stay a little bit longer they would say that to
the kid as like a hey so you know we
really gotta finish this and we've you know we have really great stuff for
you and then the kid would look at the parent and be like oh i really want

(36:57):
to continue on and then the mother of the
first girl she even said she goes i didn't go to the police because
how could i ruin my daughter's career
i know that if i go to the police about this her career
is over well yeah how could i take my child's dream away from
her and like that's gotta be gut-wrenching choosing between
those two those are your two options one of

(37:19):
the say nothing or say all let your daughter suffer or
or or seek justice for your daughter but at the same time
you're trying to hold your daughter's like space you're
trying trying to hold space for your daughter is like that's such a hard position
as a parent to be in but i think you still have to be a parent at the end of
the day what we can learn from the guy who was on that show that was sexually

(37:39):
assaulted drake bell as a parent i'm done we're done with this yeah you know
my son was able to go through this with somebody that you all trusted.
And they were able to sexually assault my son in the worst ways
because to me what was the the benefits of allowing
him to continue to go do the show only for him to
spiral out of control later in life and to feel like

(38:01):
no one was there to protect him yeah that's what he
felt like at the end of the day man when he said tough he
said going to get there like having to go into that rehab for the first time
and he was like it was the first time i ever felt that everyone surrounding
me wanted me to be a better person yeah like oh my god because that means mama
was just interested and the large amounts of money that her son was bringing in.

(38:25):
Oh, I think it's clear by the fact that she wasn't also interviewed.
Of course, yeah. His dad was there. It was his dad and the same person who was
driving him to these auditions. Yeah.
So it was hard to watch his dad because I know if I was in the situation,
my dad probably wouldn't even make it through the interview.
Well, his dad had already said
he just suspected that this guy was on something sneak. And he truly was.

(38:47):
And it was horrific and...
It just shows, like, these child stars really truly need to be protected.
They really do need to have better laws for them. Yes.
And enforcing them. And enforcing them. Because I think one of the most horrible
things I also saw was, like, one of the black actors had to get peanut butter
slapped over himself. Oh, yeah.

(39:08):
And the dogs lick it off. To me, personally, what kind of funny is that?
That's crazy. And even he said that he did not find that funny.
Funny he was uncomfortable and his mom was pretty much chased
out because she found that kind of stuff uncomfortable so what
i was gonna say was that his story was
one of the saddest to me because especially as a black child he

(39:29):
was saying about how there was a lot of
stuff he didn't want to do that he didn't like going on
on set but he also knew that his mom was too
straightforward she was tough she liked to blow up about stuff so
he was afraid to tell her about stuff and he would just to endure
because he doesn't want her to overreact and now
things are falling apart but yeah you see how

(39:50):
heartbroken she was when she was very hard i know a lot
of the that i think that was the toughest part is to watch the
parents who genuinely cared about their children their reaction to
these stories yeah because they didn't know you can see it
in their eyes like some of them didn't know until they knew jasmine when
you watch it you'll see that a lot of these parents were really.
Hurt especially drake drake's dad yeah

(40:12):
like he was just broken and even the mom at the beginning yeah
he said he never his dad said he was never the
same after he found out because he felt like he let his
son down even though he was doing his up most like
he's straight yeah he said that when he went to his mom he
told his mom i don't trust this guy please don't be
careful around him and then his mom his mom

(40:33):
got manipulated by this man into
believing that his dad was trying to take his career
away from them yeah and again the
the most charismatic the the
sweetest have like all these great like anecdotes
about who this who these people are and they turned out to be some of the most

(40:53):
atrocious human beings and like it's it's never gonna not be a like gag for
me when something like this happens because it's like you want to think the
best of people you want to but then it It makes you not want to trust people.
Honestly, for a while, I mean, I question if someone's like really nice.
I'm like, that's not how you are. Yeah. I don't trust it.

(41:14):
No, definitely. I'm watching you. When I first meet people, you can't be too,
too nice because I'm sure I'll be like, I don't believe you.
Yeah. Some people I've met genuinely really, really nice people who are genuinely really nice.
You can still be open to that. You just have to be self-aware of how much you give a person.
That's what I was taught by my parents. You have to be step aware. It said, I mean.

(41:39):
Are they done with their show? I think that was the entire series.
I don't know if they're going to go into more. I mean, because there's a lot
of people that we haven't heard from. Jamie Lynn Spears, Victoria Justice.
You know, there's a lot of people, whether they decline interviews or not. I mean, what's her name?
Miranda Cosgrove. I don't think a lot of them are going to talk about it.
I think a lot of them are probably going to move on because some of them didn't

(42:01):
have the same experiences. No, exactly. Like Ariana.
I can imagine she's probably like, no, I was good.
Well, she was gone a lot of the time while she was working with them. yeah
but they still have those clips from sam and cat of where
she's being over sexualized and that's literally but yeah i saw
that i was like you know i didn't think of it that way but like
now that you see it yeah i'm like why this why was she pouring water over herself

(42:23):
and laying like that and she's this young right 13 14 15 year old right now
it was kind of funny it was kind of funny but only because of who it is and
what's going on it was more like a nervous like this this is not okay.
Not only that, but what sucks is, because I noticed, especially I watch iCarly and all of Dan's shows.
I loved Jamie, or Zoe 101, Victorious, and you know, but the feet,

(42:47):
I just, I didn't pick up until, you know, as an adult, it's like,
yeah, there's too much feet action going on, too much licking,
too much. Oh my goodness.
Stop. Go back and watch all of Dan Schneider's stuff. I have to finish the whole
actual series because I watched it.
I have to admit, I would never have like, like literally thought in it. Oh my goodness.

(43:08):
Please turn up all cell phones. We're recording. Yeah.
Quiet on set. No.
Quiet on the set. Quiet on the set. No. Yeah.
But that is just like, and the thing is, is like, we're also reaching an era
of where a lot of this stuff is being, coming to light and being exposed because
we have a vocabulary to really,

(43:30):
you know, these people have had the time to process it and they have a means
of of understanding what they went through and how to, you know, address it.
So I truly believe, I don't think that this is the last we're going to hear
of something like this that happened.
Oh, no, I guarantee you we hear a lot more stuff.
As a matter of fact, they said, was his name Dan Snyder? He was finally ousted

(43:52):
because of the Me Too movement.
Yeah. They finally got rid of him after all those years of his verbal and...
They said he had issues making women feel a little uncomfortable.
Well, you had the woman from the costume department that was saying that she
would be missing employees from the costume department. And she's like,
yo, we got to get stuff done.
And Dan would have them on set giving him a massage. Give him a massage. Ew, gross.

(44:16):
I would not touch that man, honey. Have you seen? Every single child actor was
like the one thing they could remember was just someone new.
Someone, a woman massaging Dan.
And they were just like all uncomfortable with that. Gross.
I don't like people like that. Again, our capitalistic society allows people
like him to get away with those things because he made Nickelodeon tons of money.

(44:39):
And they were very open about that on documentary.
Dan's a problem. Dan's a problem. Dan's a problem. But Dan's making some of
the greatest children's hits known to the world right now.
So we'll just sweep it under the rug. That's what the production team said.
It was unheard of that you had this person, the showrunner, not – they said, we don't trust him.
On set next to the cast but we're still gonna have him

(45:02):
there to create the projects for us because he's
making the money and they're trying every way to keep him they'd be like
okay you can't be with the kids but you can still do the show okay you can't be
in the writer's room but you can still do the show one of the you have
to give your notes by email when they were talking to the female
writer calling honey when they were talking to some of
the female writers like from all that that was one of

(45:22):
my favorite parts because they were all basically like you know we
knew he was a weird guy we dealt with
our own issues with him but i
also feel like that's why it was so hard to see through everything he had so
much weirdness going on nobody ever stopped to think that maybe it went deeper
than that yeah they was all getting them coins that's what it was well no i

(45:43):
meant like some of the writers like the the writers the female writers were
talking about him i'm trying to think of the lady's name but she talked about
him a lot and it was like from From beginning to end,
he just was a weirdo. He was a jerk, an asshole.
And, you know, none of them knew that he also...
Was you know abusing the kids but it
was just like they not dealt with his craziness which who are

(46:03):
you talking about again now the the schneider dance dan did
not he didn't he didn't yeah he was
just he was just a bully a gaslighter and manipulative he
there have no there have been no assault or predatory allegations that
have been explicitly placed yes it's just verbally he
was just a verbal a lot of these really adult
jokes into the shows yeah yeah yeah responsible

(46:26):
but like no one's still like they're
like he's technically not yeah the kids like it was a
loop that was the loophole yeah that was that was the loophole exactly was
he was the way to get he was able to incorporate a lewd
adult style joke it was into children's
shows where if you were not an adult you were
it was going over your head we thought it was funny because you all

(46:49):
watched these shows did you think that they were funny yeah
exactly well i basically caught every new episode yeah and
now now as an adult when somebody puts and we also have
to talk about that too like a lot of these documentaries
i absolutely love but if until someone put that into
my mind i would not thought like that that's what it was squirt of lotion on

(47:09):
someone that's got i wouldn't have even thought about it being a cum shot i
think sometimes we have to question the people who think that way too because
some things can just be funny like what slime was the getting Getting slimed with the green stuff,
was that supposed to be lewd and sexual?
No. I don't know. I would say the IP so far that has done a good blend of,

(47:34):
you know, child humor mixed with adult humor that's appropriate is Shrek.
The movie that has a lot of adult jokes. That's because Mike Myers is a genius.
There's a lot of, well, let's see.
South Park is more than an adult. Oh, no, but that's not tailored for children.
But kids, look at it, though.
South Park, their whole thing from beginning has been to offend as many people

(47:56):
as possible. Yeah, that's what they do. And so let's talk about Adventure Time.
I saw, I watched a few of those episodes with you. And I thought some of those
jokes were very, like. Adventure Time is a really great example of that.
Here's an even better example.
Spongebob. was originally supposed to be an adult cartoon that got denied and
so they reshaped literally it's the same setup same characters but I think there should be sex toys,

(48:18):
stop and when it got denied it was brought to Nickelodeon as a children's show
as Spongebob stop so what was the sex toy name I mean I gotta find it that movie
still got made it became Saucy Bird.
Spongebob originally was supposed to be an adult cartoon cartoon oh my goodness

(48:39):
i did i did see that like the
first few seasons of spongebob actually is filled with a lot of adult
jokes but they're blended so well that until you go
back and be like oh these are adult jokes you never catch
it yeah ren and steppy that was a bit on
the gross nasty adult side yeah i mean like again i'm a i'm an 80 i was born
in the 80s honey our cartoons were a little bit on the cartoon side when you

(49:03):
look at he man when non-sexual about he man shooting lightning out of his sword
or turning his cat into, unless you make it that way.
I didn't look at He-Man like that. I didn't look at G.I. Joe's like that or
Transformers. I wasn't turned on at all by watching Transformers. No.
No, they were just turning into like robots. Yeah.

(49:25):
I just think people need to get their mind out the gutter too also.
Like, oh my goodness. But anyway, I wish all of those people well.
Y'all, I'm so stoned. this is the highest episode I think I've ever done but
I wish all those people well I I.
Protect your children and we need to do better about i

(49:45):
just don't honestly i don't want to find out nothing else i
think if they come out with a bunch of stuff about disney i'm going
to die because i looked at a lot of those shows yeah so that's
going to wear me out and i'm sure we got a documentary coming in a
year or two with something crazy happening and it
better not be about mr peck i'm like y'all hired him
oh my goodness can you imagine if disney comes out

(50:07):
what they're on about like well y'all already said one of
the actors from the sweet life of of zach and
cody was playing in a oh what was he he was a
place in an indie film he does a lot more like of those like indie projects
now he doesn't do like blockbuster well he's supposed to be like a prostitute
he plays like yeah kind of like like a female prostitute for like an older man
and he even has like a makeout scene but it's more like a prostitute like if

(50:31):
i'm not like female presenting.
But in drag kind of yeah he's kind of
like in drag but not like high drag but like cross-dresser but
yeah it's more artistically like
it's a really good like when i saw i think it was on youtube okay but yeah dylan
sprouse is still doing acting not cole cole's you know don't after riverdale

(50:52):
they're looking oh yeah oh yeah you know i just could never see these two little
little boys growing up. Yeah.
Wow. That's a whole man, right? Yeah, a whole ass man. I want to see him in drag, though.
Look at that. Yeah, because his long hair. He's a good looking man. I am too done.
Yeah. Oh, that's both of them together? Yep. Get out. They look great.

(51:16):
Handsome young men and netflix is letting him
live out his whole adult dream he gets to do whatever he wants
on netflix child go ahead boy oh it's this
one it's called daddy oh is that
we're watching it let me see let me get out of here
camille yeah you better find it it's
called daddy oh you know i'm gonna find it let me love it

(51:37):
it is he and you know especially coming from
that background of being on a show like a disney channel show you see that he
went for the raunchiest cringiest roles that he could did you see the one where
he played like the venus high school student that was harassing his teacher
oh it was so good yeah it was good no I'm not girl get out of here how you doing.

(51:59):
Miss honey yes Dylan Sprouse oh it's called daddy yeah oh my god Dylan's stars
oh I told you it's like it's like a little independent like girl get out he's
trying to give a real We'll move on.
The Sprouse twins are not foreign to cross-dressing. Because they had that little
girl character in Suite Life.

(52:20):
Give him all the awards. Well, they can't say that. But we know that Will Smith
went this route, and he got super famous after it.
Six Degrees of Separation. Oh, yeah. With Standard Shock.
Have y'all seen it? No. Thank you. You haven't? I haven't. It was hilarious.
The little short game that you did where you got little legs up in there. He plays that play.

(52:40):
Will Smith plays a con artist who lies about who he is and says he's from a
rich family and he ends up staying the summer with a rich couple and in the
end they find out that he's a con man but he ends up being gay and they catch him,
Having sex. They walk in, literally. It's the only gay scene you see of him in the real. Yeah, true.

(53:02):
He got his legs up in the air. It's not like super extreme. Yeah.
And so, yeah, it's like a bunch of little stories.
He got called having a date in the house.
Let me say this. Will Smith was getting banged out. Yeah, he was getting banged
out. Yes. He was the bottom.
He was the bottom. Oh, so you're doing the bending over. Miss Hunter.
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this brings me no pleasure but the

(55:55):
election is coming and again we get to suffer through
joe biden and donald trump my god that's
not much i don't have anything nice to say about any of this what about you
camille we'll cross that up rich when we get there i'm keeping an eye on it
but i'm still holding up hope that andrew yang comes back out and be like i'm
just booed yeah yeah okay i'm like where is he gonna go,

(56:21):
maybe one of them will die and he can come you know i just wanted him to go
to the end just because he's an asian man that's great you got anything to say.
Taste the goodness of the pit i didn't even know we were going to be talking
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(56:41):
Like Beyonce said, America, we got a problem.
A Cheeto and a crumpled Kleenex. My goodness. One can't walk up the stairs.
And one ain't never walked up a stair a day in his life.
So, you know, like we stuck. Jasmine, you got anything to say?
You have last. I do have Aaron. Anything to say?

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Just go out there and vote, please.
I forgot. We want to see that birth certificate, Melania.
So, yeah, there was some tea. They coming out to Melania because Donald Trump,
he goes after the inerrant. I want to see it, too.
I'm sure you know about this tea. They're coming out to Melania Trump and Donald Trump.

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When Barack Obama was elected, you know they wanted to see that birth certificate.
Well, fast forward to 2024, and the people are like, Melania,
you were an immigrant too?
How the hell did you get your green card so fast? Let us see that birth certificate.
They want to see the birth certificate, and they want to know how she got her
green card so quickly. I know how she got it so quickly.

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Well, we know how she got it quickly. That orange thing.
Can you imagine? Yes, because they had a kid.
I mean, it's an orange and a banana. I mean like I'll be right there with that
amount of money you can get in vitro no problem you can pay me she wouldn't
even hold the man's hand from the car to the window literally.

(58:14):
Yeah never like I've never seen them be affectionate towards
you don't when he tries to
hold her hand she swats it like how dare
you how dare you touch me my skin's perfect try to touch my
brain play with your penis one time one
time you give me green card and
she said my god this is a business deal and then she had she built a whole glory

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hole and just put him behind it so she didn't have to look at his ass while
she here here's your box this is what i got you for christmas you want to have
sex this is how we're gonna do it and you give me american baby And he did it.
Allegedly, she got a genius green card. What is that?
That's a green card that they give to people who can benefit the country.

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Oh, yes, it's through, like, yeah. Can we talk about what that means?
Like, I could see if she was, like, an astrophysicist, you know,
if she was a doctor or an educator. Well, technically, she's into physical education.
I mean, aerobics, indoor.
Indoor aerobics. Private yoga instruction. Private yoga, see?

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But he looks like he eats a lot of yogurt. Yeah.
Girl, we all know that she is a hospice nurse. That is what she is. Oh, that's the service.
He is his hospice nurse. That's why she said, don't touch me.
The one that keeps him alive. Okay. So we do need to separate. Okay. Yeah, we do.
Melania, good luck, girl. We know you're not happy. We know it.

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We know it. See, this is like the first lady in my generation that I've seen
who has not been that active, first off, when their husband is in the White House.
Secondly, they show no affection. We're sharing this mic. We haven't seen any,
like, you know, usually they do the big holiday parties.
Right. We saw none of it. And, like, the remodel they did when they cut down

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all the trees, like, I thought that was disrespectful.
They pulled the garden out. Yeah, they pulled the garden out and redid it and
made it look even worse. I'm like, the other one looked a lot better.
Why did we spend $2.5 million to rip out something that you just put in some ugly bushes?
Okay, let me say this first. I think the worst thing to ever happen to millennia

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was him winning the presidency like they got married It was like the next year.
He was like, oh I'm running for president and she was like what?
Like this is one woman who never was interested in being the first no she was
no like Michelle. He was a dragon having a okay and.
But my favorite thing when he first won the presidency was reading about what she was doing.

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Like, because I've always loved the first lady. I love that they throw the parties
and they redecorate and they do all that. You know what I'm saying?
So I was interested in what she was doing. And I remember reading in whatever article it was.
And she was flat out saying, we're not going to be doing a whole bunch of stuff
that the former first ladies were doing.
We'll have Christmas. We'll have this. They didn't have Christmas.

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Well, yeah, eventually they didn't. But she said she didn't.
When she they gotta do it they gotta record it cussing
and getting upset about christmas and exactly right they're not
gonna the press is not gonna cover it anyway they're not why don't
have to do all of this up until that point they had not
been she had tried to do other things other events that
people just weren't feeling so finally she was like well i give

(01:01:33):
up i've done my part i'm not about to do this girl
she ain't did melania trump did not
want to be a first lady the first she didn't want to but i
feel like she genuinely tried so at first you
what you're saying is that the press wasn't covering her events and
so she quit so she quit yeah she was like i'm not
gonna try i mean honestly you know yeah but it

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makes it makes sense to me though it's like well the whole reason
i'm even doing this is for publicity if there's no publicity then why
am i doing it i don't really want to do it it's not because i
love freaking doing it so why am i doing it so listening to
you are we talking about trump or melania because they sound the same him that's what
it sounds like much

(01:02:14):
for the presidency i don't want
to do it you're saying too much for donald trump did a lot during his president
i said for the president wasn't worth it no it was not i'm just saying he was
very active where melania was not it was worth it for some people just not everybody
i a puppet a puppet moves a lot more than just a doll.

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And he was a puppet for the Republican Party. He was a doll.
He looked pretty and, you know, represent what she represented.
But again, she didn't do much. Now, will I give her the credit for trying? Oh, ass.
But if it wasn't for the publicity, she would not have tried.
And when she did get publicity, she stopped trying. You know why she really disappeared?

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Because she gave that speech that was a copy of Michelle Obama's.
I love an exact freedom repeat of Rochelle.
All I want to say is, Baron, if you hear this, just wink three times.
We'll wink three times, Baron. Anyway, y'all, it has been an absolute pleasure.

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Before we leave this thing, we got to make sure you pay your respects to our
community by going out and supporting all of our local shows and our local queer spaces.
Starting out if you're looking for anything
to do this weekend or during the week don't
fret because there's always something to do here in
minneapolis we got the gay 90s wednesday nights you can go out and see so you

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think you can drag thursday sunday thursday through sunday is the ladies of
the film first friday is flavor the last friday of the month is trantasia and
march 23rd is stupid sales.
And then over at the saloon, my friends, we have Hot Pink every Tuesday and Saturday.

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We've got the drag competition show work on Thursdays, booked every last Friday
of the month, Black Ass Friday every first Friday of the month,
Latin Night every first Friday of the month as well.
And then be on the lookout for the posters for Gender X and WTF as they announce
their events throughout the year.

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And over at Lush Food Bar, we have Drag Duels on Sundays, which is an eight-week
competition with two performers from our city that have gotten together to create a dual team.
And then on Saturdays is Mirage, the drag dinner, right?
It's a drag show. It's a regular drag show. Okay, so that's at night.

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And then on Saturdays and Sundays, we have a brunch of Queens over at Lush.
And then at Blackhearts, we got Express.
We have Fierce, Sparkle, Dragged Out, The Dick Van Dyke Show,
Pumps and Pearls at the third Thursday of the month.

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And what is the setting? All of these are monthly shows. All of these are monthly shows.
As always, y'all, go out, check these shows out.
If you can't find them anywhere else, make sure you look on Facebook or Instagram
to see all of these shows. I forgot about Roxy's, y'all.
Over at Roxy's, we have Karaoke with Genevieve on Monday, Charity Bingo on Tuesday,

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Game Night on Wednesdays, Guess Who's Coming to Dinner on Fridays,
which is our celebrity impersonation show.
And then Saturday is Flamboyance and then on Sunday is the Drag Brunch which is Bitches and Bubbles.
Speaking of Bitches and Bubbles, one of the baddest bitches in the drag brunt
industry, Flip Phone Events.
We got Ariana March 23rd, Bad Bunny March 24th, The British Invasion at the

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Saloon, March 24th, Schitt's Creek Trivia, March 27th, Beyonce.
The Beyonce hoedown.
Oh, Aaron Williams. You go on flip phone events to see everything we have coming up.
Flip phone you all. It has been an absolute pleasure.

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Thank you so much for chilling out with us on this very, very high episode.
And since it's cold, I think I'm going to name this episode,
the lemon popsicle. There you have it. Lemon popsicle. Lemon popsicle.
Nice. Thank you so much for listening. My lemon cookies.
As always, ways. Drink your juice, Shelby. Good night. Smooches.