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April 15, 2025 64 mins

Today we're sitting down with the Father of FedRAMP himself — Dave Fairburn Jr. — for a raw, detailed, and at times hilarious deep dive into the origin story, evolution, and future of the FedRAMP program. From 16-hour days and bureaucracy battles to 2,500-page documentation drafts reduced by weight tests (yes, really), Dave walks us through how the entire FedRAMP framework was created, challenged, and still, nearly 15 years later, hasn’t been "screwed up" (his words). This episode is packed with insider stories, lessons learned, and real talk about:

  • Why the original FedRAMP design was JAB-only (no agency ATOs)
  • How 3PAOs came to be — and the concern about quality today
  • Why the “paperwork exercise” argument drives Dave crazy
  • What Dave thinks about FedRAMP 20x, AI, OSCAL, automation, and PMO changes
  • Predictions about what will (and won’t) change in the next 10 years

Learn more about Dave Fairburn Jr.:   / %e2%98%81%ef%b8%8f-dave-fairburn-jr-cissp-...   🔗 Learn more about Paramify: https://www.paramify.com/?utm_medium=... 👤 Connect with Kenny: Kenny G. Scott:   / kenny-g-scott   👤 Connect with Mike: Mike Schreiner:   / mikecschreiner  

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