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May 12, 2025 55 mins

Welcome to episode 211 with Owen Williams, who is the singer and guitarist in The Tubs.

He is also a vocalist and guitarist in Ex-Void and the drummer in Sniffany and The Nits and other things in other bands as well, all under the banner of the London based, music collective Gob Nation.

In this episode I chat to Owen about his experiences with OCD and the mental breakdown that he was going through while writing songs for The Tubs wonderful second album ‘Cotton Crown’ which was released earlier this year.

The cover of the record is a black and white image of Owen as a baby with his Mum, who died by suicide in 2014 and we chat about this very specific type of grief and also how people behave around you after you lose someone to suicide.

We chat about being in a band, drinking on tour and the realities and challenges of doing music or anything creative as a job.

And we chat about intrusive thoughts and compulsions, the guilt and shame that often come with these things and also how they are fed by the societal pressure to be morally perfect all of the time.

Cotton Crown is definitely one of my albums of the year already, it’s a wonderful record and it’s perfect for the summer.  It was great to chat to Owen all about it!

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‘We’re like a frat house’: meet Gob Nation, south London’s oddball music collective | Music | The Guardian

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