January 16, 2025 • 60 mins
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"Emotions are energy in motion, right? And energy is information. So these emotions are designed to inform us about our environment, about our experience, but we're not using that information," says Kelley Erickson, who joins the Quantum Biology Collective podcast to explore the intricate connection between our circadian rhythms, emotions, and consciousness.
In this enlightening episode, Kelley shares her personal journey of healing from PTSD and cPTSD, revealing how implementing circadian-aligned practices led to profound changes in her mental and emotional well-being. She delves into the science behind our circadian timing system and its relationship with our stress management system, explaining how sunlight exposure at specific times can reset our internal clocks and improve mood regulation.
Kelley also discusses the crucial distinction between emotions and feelings, and how understanding this difference can lead to better nervous system regulation and personal growth. She explores the concept of heart-brain coherence and its impact on our relationships and overall well-being.
Tune in to today's episode to discover how aligning with natural cycles can regulate your nervous system on an emotional level, and learn about the fascinating connection between consciousness, light, and love. Kelley's insights offer a unique perspective on personal transformation and the collective shift in human consciousness we're currently experiencing.
Key Takeaways
1. Harness the power of sunlight to regulate your emotional landscape and nervous system. Spend time outdoors daily, especially in the morning, to reset your circadian rhythm and improve overall well-being.
2. Practice distinguishing between emotions and feelings. Recognize that emotions are immediate, instinctual responses, while feelings are the meanings we assign to those emotions. This awareness can help break cycles of negative self-talk and nervous system dysregulation.
3. Incorporate heart-brain coherence techniques, such as using the HeartMath Institute app, to create a more balanced electromagnetic field. This can positively impact your relationships and overall sense of well-being.
4. Explore nature as a tool for nervous system regulation and connection to the quantum field. Activities like forest bathing, grounding, and walking meditation can provide numerous benefits for physical and mental health.
5. Cultivate a personal practice that aligns with your values and helps you maintain a stable, loving frequency. This will enable you to be a source of support for others during times of societal change and personal transformation.
Memorable Quotes
"When we have shame, it robs us of our personal authority. It robs us of our own personal power."
"Emotions and our experience of time are in a marriage together. They're intimately linked up and we know that time and space are constructs of perception."
"Nature, of course, is like our original home. It is the place where we evolved, and so it's no surprise that when we go out into nature, there are all kinds of benefits that we can receive."
Resources Mentioned
Power vs. Force: The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior by David Dawkins - https://amzn.to/40xW5js
HeartMath Institute: https://www.heartmath.org/
Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): https://www.aa.org/
Connect with Kelley
Join the Metta Balance Network:
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Episode Transcript
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Meredith Oke (00:31):
Biology Collective podcast where we break down
the practical applications of this emerging
science, starting with healthy life habits and
going wherever the quantum superhighway takes us.
This is your host, executive and life coach,
Meredith Oak, with a quick reminder that podcasts
are conversations, not consultations. But if
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directory@quantumbiologycollective.org hi, Kelly
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Erickson. Welcome back to the QVC podcast. It is
so good to see you again.
Kelly Erickson (04:47):
Yes, good to see you as well, Meredith. Thank you
for having me back.
Meredith Oke (04:51):
Oh, it's such a pleasure. I love following your
journey. You do such a nice job of sharing on
Instagram. You know, I think it's a real gift for
people who are able to communicate that way
because it reaches so many people. And you do,
like, a really beautiful job.
Kelly Erickson (05:08):
Thank you very much.
Meredith Oke (05:09):
I love that. All right, so you have, like, a
really incredible kind of healing story that is,
as with everybody, ongoing. So let's start with
the circadian piece and tell us sort of how you
came to that and just a high level explanation of
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why it matters so, so much.
Kelly Erickson (05:37):
Sure. So when I began this journey, I had just
gotten sober. I was trying to help my son with
his health stuff, but I also had my own health
issues. I had PTSD and cptsd. And so through the
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process of trying to get him back to a state of
wellness, I also was working on myself and
applied anything that I asked him to do. So we
came across the quantum community and we were
told about the ketogenic diet and sunlight. And
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so we began to implement it. And I saw rapid
changes, not just in my son, but in myself as
well. I really was just hoping to lose weight.
Like that's what my goal was. I had no idea that
what I was doing was going to have such a
profound impact on me. I had nightmares. I had
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significant anxiety, depression, ruminating
thoughts, intrusive thoughts. And so all of this
began to shift, really what I felt really rapidly
because I was over 40 years old and I had
experienced this most of my life. So when I
started to feel these changes, I wanted to know
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exactly what was going on. So I began to study. I
followed some really important people on
Instagram and in the quantum community and just
began to absorb as much as I could. And I learned
some really important things, things about our
circadian timing system and how it's in
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relationship to our stress management system and
our energy management system. So our circadian
timing system consists of a master clock inside
of our brain, and it's called the suprachiasmatic
nucleus. And then we have these little peripheral
clocks all throughout the body, and they need to
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be in sync with each other, in relationship with
each other to communicate about time within the
body. And this tells our hormones and, you know,
all these different processes throughout the body
what time of day they should be functioning. And
so when we use sunlight and really key specific
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times of sunlight, we can help reset this system.
And so immediately I saw improvements in my three
sleep, improvements in my mood, but also because
the. The circadian timing system is in
relationship with the stress management system, I
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was also better able to regulate my moods and my
emotions. My. I want to be careful how I say this
because I don't want to give the wrong idea, but
I just. I began to feel like a different person.
And. And so through this, you know, the studying
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that I did, I discovered there's a lot taking
place inside the body that requires light as a
primary signal in order for it to function
optimally.
Meredith Oke (09:11):
Okay, tell us. Tell us a little more about what
you found.
Kelly Erickson (09:15):
Yeah, so, you know, when we. So my history, like
I said, was PTSD and cptsd. And when we have a
history of trauma, we. We know, we call it
stress. Right? We have a massive amount of
stress, and stress dysregulates the entire
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system. But more specifically, emotions
dysregulate the entire system because we don't
have. We're not really taught how to bring
awareness to our emotions. We're not really
taught about how our perception plays into our
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emotions or can kind of keep our emotions from
being processed. And so when we don't understand,
process primary emotions, or what I call core
emotions, which are anger, shame, and fear, then
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we begin to navigate the world from our space of
perception, or our feelings rather than our
emotions. And our emotions and feelings are very
different from each other. Feelings are emotions
rather are. They're primal, they're instinctual,
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they arise immediately. And feelings are the
meaning that we give to the emotions. Most people
live in the state of feeling and their perception
of what's going on, which keeps triggering the
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emotional response. And so this leads us to the
nervous system and how we view the nervous system
through the polyvagal theory. So the polyvagal
theory tells us that we have three primary states
of nervous system activation. So we have the
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fight response, we have the flight response, we
have the freeze response. And then kind of
collapse or fawn are in there as well. And so the
fight response is associated with anger. That's
the primary emotion that drives that response.
Then we have fear, which drives the flight
response, and we have freeze, which drives or
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shame, which drives the freeze response. And we
have problems with nervous system regulation
because we don't know how to navigate those three
primary emotions. And so understanding that these
emotions are core emotions. And emotions are
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energy in motion, right? And energy is
information. So these emotions are designed to
inform us about our environment, about our
experience, but we're not using that information.
We're living in a space of feeling, and that's
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perception. And our perception is developed from,
you know, beginning stages of life. And it's
largely personality driven. It has a lot to do
with our unique experiences. And so we disconnect
from emotions and we live primarily in feelings.
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And this, this creates a disconnect between the
mind and the body because we need to understand
where things are coming from and how our nervous
system is becoming dysregulated. But these three
primary emotions of anger, shame and fear, it's
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also what we call the ego, because the ego is
this protective mechanism that is designed to
keep us safe when we're navigating the world. But
if we're stuck in these three primary emotions,
we're essentially stuck in the ego. And this kind
of takes us into the world of consciousness. And
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when we look at consciousness through David
Hawkins scale of consciousness, right at the
bottom of the scale we see shame. And there, you
know, and so that's the freeze response again.
And so if, you know, when we go out seeking a
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healing journey, there are so many places where
we, we get kind of hung up. So like the first
place people usually seek healing is through
food. That's the most obvious, right? And then
they'll see some improvements with changing their
nutrition. And then maybe they add exercise. And
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from exercise they might, you know, add a little
bit of meditation or a little bit of this. But
still they're stuck. And what I get a lot of
clients saying is that they feel like they lack
purpose or that they're disconnected from their
selves, but they are seemingly normal, everyday
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people. They can, you know, have jobs and do all
of these things, but they're still very
disconnected. And when I ask them about their
emotional states or their primary nervous system
states, they have a very difficult time
identifying which states they live in and which
emotions that they're primarily experiencing. And
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so we begin to use language as a tool to inform
us about what we're experiencing. And I think
there's a lot of language can be a tool or a
weapon. And so developing discernment within
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language can be really Helpful in understanding
not just what's happening with inside of us, but
also what we're experiencing in the external
world. And so shame. You know, shame is this
really. This kind of takes us back to our last
(16:00):
podcast together. Sorry if I am jumping around a
little bit, but I was really wanting to explain
this for anyone who may have listened to our last
podcast together, because I really. I messed it
up. I was on the verge of tears the entire time.
I was so worried about getting all of the details
(16:23):
right, and I didn't want to mess things up. And
it's this kind of perfectionistic desire to
control my image and kind of feeling like an
imposter. And when we got off that call, I wanted
to quit everything. I was like, that's it. I'm
never showing my face again. I can't do this. I
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don't belong here. And it took me a couple of
weeks to really understand what was happening.
And I was actually listening to a podcast on
homeschooling, and it occurred to me what was
happening. So I view you as an authority in the
(17:04):
field of quantum biology, and I didn't. I mean, I
viewed myself as an authority within my own
framework. But when I was coming to do the
podcast with you, authority to authority, that
kind of. It felt like confrontation in my nervous
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system. So I went into freeze mode and I could
not think. Like, I just couldn't recall anything.
I was. I was so confused. And so this led me back
to the work I'd already been doing on
consciousness. And I went back to David Hawkins
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book and where he discussed shame. And I was
like, oh, that's what it was. I was experiencing
shame in that moment because I viewed you as an
authority. And when we have shame, it robs us of.
Of our personal authority. It robs us of our own
(18:10):
personal power. And I was like, oh, my gosh, this
is what's happening. I was triggering my own
shame based on my perceptions, based upon a
narrative that I had developed early in childhood
about my own self worth. And I was like, phew.
(18:34):
Now. Oh, my goodness. It was so, you know, the
universe, I think, gives us exactly what we need,
exactly when we need it, but it's what we do with
it that makes or breaks us. And so I could have
gone into a hole and deleted my Instagram profile
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and never did the work again and never showed my
face, but instead I was like, okay, I can do this
now that I know what I'm working with. And even
right now, my face is turning a little bit red.
And that kind of indicates that I'm experiencing
a little bit of shame, but I'm not afraid of it
anymore. And because I can identify it and I know
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exactly what's happening, it doesn't overwhelm me
in the same way that it did a year ago when we
had that initial podcast. So then through, you
know, all of the work and my studies on quantum
biology and their circadian timing system, what I
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then discovered is that emotions and our
experience of time are like in a marriage
together. They're intimately linked up and we
know, or you know, I, I mean, I think it's
definitive that time and space are constructs of
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perception. They don't like reality isn't
actually dependent upon them. And our mind is
what creates time in order for us to make sense
of the world. And when we have these emotional
experiences, extremely overwhelming emotional
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experiences that we don't process, where we
experience anger, shame, and fear, what we're
doing is we're altering our perception of. Of
time. And it's not just our perception of time,
but it's actually we're messing with our timing
mechanisms within the body. Because, like I said,
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that stress management system and the circadian
timing system are in this bi directional
relationship with each other. And so it's like,
oh, my gosh, of course. It's all connected. It's
all wanted.
Meredith Oke (20:59):
Oh, wow.
Kelly Erickson (21:01):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (21:02):
And then we come right back, right back to the.
To the circadian piece and how intentionally
living within the natural cycles of that is
regulating our nervous system on an emotional
level.
Kelly Erickson (21:15):
Yes, Kelly.
Meredith Oke (21:20):
Wow. I love it. And I also want to acknowledge
you and thank you for sharing about your
emotional experience and that we, we communicated
briefly about it in messages. But that is like,
you know, first of all, thank you for being
vulnerable enough and brave enough to share what
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your experience was and, and to keep going, you
know, and it's just. It's funny. Like, there's a
few things I want to say, right? It's like, it in
my mind, I'm like, I'm just like a lady
interviewing people, and I'm excited to hear
people's stories, but I have had that feedback
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multiple times that people feel very nervous. And
so I even. I had invited someone on the podcast
and she didn't write back right away. And I was
like, and I thought of you and I wrote her again.
And I was like, I'm just really excited to hear
your story. And here's what I'm thinking. We're
going to talk about. It's just going to be fun,
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you know, and she Was like, oh, okay, thanks. I
was really scared to book it.
Kelly Erickson (22:30):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (22:32):
And. And I have the same. I have the same thing
too. I went on a bunch of podcasts a couple years
ago, and I wasn't planning to. I had to step in
because I was, like, planning for someone else.
They'd been booked and I was kind of planning for
someone else to do it. So I did it. And I had
that exact, like, every single time. I was like,
oh, my God, what am I doing? I have no business
doing. Yeah. And yeah, I often have people circle
(22:56):
back and be like, I forgot to say this or I
didn't say that. So it's interesting because I do
think that this platform, the platform of
podcasting, which is available to anybody if, you
know, you and Lauren have a beautiful podcast
going now. Like, it really is a personal growth
opportunity in a way that I did not see coming.
Kelly Erickson (23:17):
Yes, it really is. And to look back at our. The
first episode that Lauren and I recorded together
versus this last episode that we just recorded
with Morley Robbins, it's just a world of
difference. And it's only been a year's time. I
mean, granted, I am someone who does a lot of
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personal growth, you know, outside of these
things, but you do. You are confronted with parts
of yourself that maybe you don't get to
experience in your regular day to day
interactions. So. Yeah. Yeah. Vulnerable.
Meredith Oke (23:56):
Yeah. And yeah. The authority piece, the being in
the spotlight piece, there's so many different
pieces to it. Okay, so let's circle back to the
circadian and the emotions. So I think this is
really interesting, the difference between
emotions and feelings. So if, if I'm walking and
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I realize, like, I'm at the edge of a cliff and
I'm like. And I have that, like, rush of panic
that I'm gonna fall off the edge of the cliff,
and I step back. That's an emotion.
Kelly Erickson (24:31):
Yes, that's.
Meredith Oke (24:32):
And then, okay, so that's fear. And then if I
start thinking like, oh, my God, Meredith, I
can't believe you'd be so stupid as to walk near
the edge of a cliff. And what, am I gonna die?
And then if I die, what's gonna happen to my,
like, those that. That have gone into feelings.
Kelly Erickson (24:47):
Yes. Yes.
Meredith Oke (24:48):
Okay.
Kelly Erickson (24:48):
Yes. And a lot of people, because they don't
recognize the difference between the two, they
will perpetuate the emotion. That feeling of fear
with the narrative or that self talk that they
keep doing with reliving. Reliving the feelings.
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So, like, keep saying to yourself, I'm so stupid,
I can't believe I did that. And every time you do
that, you're re triggering that fear response.
And so your nervous system is just responding
physiologically over and over and over again. And
so a lot of the work that I do with clients is we
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start by mapping the nervous system. I have them
write down several times a day their primary
emotions, their primary behaviors, and their
primary symptoms. And then we go back and we see
what emotions, you know, I mean, I can look at it
and see what emotions they're experiencing on a
pretty regular basis. And then we dive into that
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narrative and where it was developed as a child.
Like, where did you learn that you were unworthy
or unlovable or whatever it is? Right. And just,
you know, we know from the observer effect, just
that process of observation begins to shift
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things pretty massively. And then it's the
healing spiral. We're given opportunities to
revisit each, you know, each emotion over and
over again with a new level of awareness. And
each time you bring a new level of awareness,
you're observing it differently and you're
shifting it again. And so we just keep repeating
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this pattern over and over again. And what we're
doing is we're unburdening the heart. So we know
from the HeartMath Institute, right, that there
is heart brain coherence. And when they are out
of sync, primarily due to, you know, these
overwhelming, unprocessed emotions, we have a
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very chaotic toroidal field. And this toroidal
field informs our relationship to other people.
And so this is where we can get into, like,
attachment wounds. And if you think about what is
in what information is being sent out from your
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heart in that electromagnetic field that extends
up to what, 12, 15ft from your body, what kind of
information are you sending out to the people
you're in relationship to? Is it one of fear? Is
it one of anger? Is it one of shame? And then
what is it attracting back to you in
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relationships? And so when I look at attachment
wounds or attachment theory, that's really how I
view it is from that heart brain coherence kind
of field of information that we know about.
Meredith Oke (28:10):
So cool. So it's like the. There's like a chaos
in our frequency, and that is what other people
are sensing.
Kelly Erickson (28:22):
Yes. And then we're responding to theirs. Right?
And so it's being sent out and then coming back
to us. So, you know, it's this constant field of
information informing our perception and our
experience of where we sit within the world or
within relationship to others. And so when we can
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work on Heart, brain coherence through
unburdening some of these emotions and then using
things like the HeartMath Institute app, and, you
know, you can use that. You create this coherent
field of information that goes out. You are
operating from a space of love, and then you are
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informing your relationship to other people of
love, and it begins to balance out that
electromagnetic signal and feedback system that
you're getting when you're in relationship to
other people.
Meredith Oke (29:27):
So. Interesting.
Kelly Erickson (29:28):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (29:29):
And that would probably affect, like, who you're.
Who you choose to be around. I mean, I remember,
you know, so we have a lot of common. A lot of
things in common on our journey. And my husband,
he said something to me one time. It was
something. He's like, why do you always have to
have, like, one totally crazy friend? And I was
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like, I don't know, but I always did. I was just
somehow always attracted to an agent of chaos
that I had to have. And there were other people,
and they seemed who I could be friends with, but
they seemed boring. And as I healed, I was like,
oh, they're not boring. They're just not chaotic.
Kelly Erickson (30:14):
Right, right.
Meredith Oke (30:15):
And it totally shifted. And I no longer have any
agents of chaos by choice. There's a few I'm
related to, but, yeah, it does. So that's like a
super interesting lens to, like, understand that
behavior.
Kelly Erickson (30:32):
Yeah, yeah. And it changes our relationship with
others in. In a more profound way as well. So
when we look at these emotions from David
Hawkins, scale of Consciousness, anger, shame,
and fear sit below. Well, fear and shame really
sit below what is called the frequency of truth.
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And it's when we begin to rise above those
frequencies that we begin to seek truth. And it's
truth in all manners. And love is the ultimate
truth frequency, in my opinion. And so as we
navigate up and we begin, we, you know, unburden
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the heart with each layer. We get closer and
closer to the truth or to the frequency of love.
And I believe that love, in the way that we
understand it from society's perspective, it's
really. It's. We're given the perception that
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love is very transactional. It's, I'm giving you
love, I'm doing this out of love, et cetera. But
I believe from my own personal experience that
when we are the frequency of love, there is. It's
not transactional at all. And we begin to see
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things like judgment or resentment or, you know,
these other kind of filters through which we
experience other humans, they begin to dissolve.
And we can see other people through a much more
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unfiltered perception, I guess. So resentment and
judgment would be filters that you are
experiencing other people through. And so love,
to me is much more about a frequency that we
operate from. And then we begin to feed our
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relationships with this frequency, and it can
help other people begin to balance out their
instability, their chaos. It can inform their
field of information. You know, we know through
nervous system regulation work that we can help
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others regulate their nervous system. It's called
co regulation. Right. And that's what a mother
does with her child when she picks up her baby
after it's hurt and it's hurt itself. We can do
that also from the frequency of love. And we
begin to bring stability into all of our
relationships. Now, this doesn't mean we control
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other people and it's automatically going to fix
everything about them, but it does. It does
provide a platform of stability and coherence
rather than chaos and, you know, further
instability.
Meredith Oke (33:52):
Yes. Beautiful. And then we, you know, if we are
creating that field or contributing to that field
of love and that becomes dominant, then we can
help to regulate others who. I mean, I guess you
probably have to be open to it to a certain
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extent. Right. But just by being in that. And I'm
thinking now of like, recovery groups, you know,
places like Alcoholics Anonymous, where you have
that, like, container of acceptance. And it's so
not trans. The opposite of transactional. Right.
Is really vibrating at a frequency of love. And
someone comes in who's an absolute at the bottom
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as. As they say, and they are, at least for the
duration of the time that they're in that space,
they. They can become regulated. And you see how
it's that. That frequency of love.
Kelly Erickson (34:49):
Yes. A hundred percent. And it's interesting you
brought up the AA groups because in David Hawkins
book, when he's talking about consciousness
itself. Yeah, it's. Alcoholics Anonymous is one
of the, you know, few or many groups that
vibrates at the frequency of truth. And it is
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that unconditional love, that lack of judgment
that individuals bring into the room and help
others recover.
Meredith Oke (35:24):
That's right. Yeah. I forgot. He has a beautiful
section on that.
Kelly Erickson (35:29):
Yep.
Meredith Oke (35:30):
Yeah. You know, he really understood that at a
deep level. He was amazing.
Kelly Erickson (35:34):
Yeah. Yeah.
Meredith Oke (35:35):
I have his book by my bed. Just. I open it
randomly every couple of days. Yeah, beautiful.
Kelly Erickson (35:43):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (35:44):
Okay, so let's. Let's bring it back to. Okay.
We've talked about the difference between
emotions and feelings and sort of stabilizing our
toroidal field, so to speak, by being regulated
in our nervous system and not constantly pinging
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around between the feelings and the emotions. And
let's explore a little more the role that nature
and photons and darkness play in that in this
landscape.
Kelly Erickson (36:21):
Yeah. So nature, of course, is like our original
home. It is the place where, you know, we
evolved, you know, and so it's no surprise that
when we go out into nature, there are all kinds
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of benefits that we can receive. So sunlight is
one of them. We get photons of sunlight. And
there's so much that we could talk about with
sunlight specifically and helping it to regulate
your emotional landscape or your nervous system
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or your mitochondria. There's just so many
benefits to sunlight. I think it's an equilibrium
frequency and it really does help bring us back
into balance in so many different ways. You can
go out into the woods and receive phytonicides
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from pine trees, and these are really beneficial
for regulating the nervous system. You can go out
and be around a waterfall or running water and
get negative ions. Or even in after a
thunderstorm, there's negative ions in the air
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that are extremely beneficial. You can put your
feet to the bare earth and receive electrons from
the earth that help to regulate your nervous
system and bring balance back in. Yeah, but also,
like when we're out in nature, our field, our
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connection to the quantum field is uninterrupted.
And so I think when we go out into nature and we
don't have the headphones on or the cell phone on
our pocket, in our pocket, kind of sending these
altered frequencies, I think this is the ultimate
opportunity for connection to the quantum field
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and where so many people, including myself, get
our, our downloads or these like, aha moments, or
some people might call them spiritual moments.
And I think that's because we. There's no
interference between us and the quantum field.
And we have a very regulated nervous system. So I
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take a walk every single day, and that's where I
get these, you know, insights into things are
like my next idea for what I'm gonna do. And, you
know, it just appears to come out of nowhere, but
it's. It's not. You know, walking is like moving
meditation. All of these benefits that we can get
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from being outside listening to the birds and,
you know, the, the, the horizon has benefits.
Like watching the horizon walking down a straight
and narrow road has benefits for your perception.
I mean, you really can't beat time outside in any
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way.
Meredith Oke (39:40):
Wow. So much there and, and, and the moving
around. You're remind. You're reminding me. I
watched this movie, I think, last winter. It's,
it's old. It's on YouTube. You can find it. It's
called Copenhagen, and it's about Niels Bohr. And
I forget all. Anyway, it's all these, like, early
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pioneers of quantum physics. And they have this.
They're discussing all of the big breakthroughs
that they had. And they were like, oh, yeah, I
remember that. We would, like. We'd be around the
table, like, pouring over the formulas, and we
were like, ah, we're never gonna get it. And then
we'd go out for a hike in those Swiss mountains,
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and all the breakthroughs would come. And they
told. They were just talking and telling stories,
the characters. But I noticed every time they
talked about when they had a breakthrough is when
they left the work and went skiing or went hiking
or went outside.
Kelly Erickson (40:36):
Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's not
surprising. I mean, it really isn't, you know,
but also, I think a lot of people get
breakthroughs while they're sleeping. And it's
the same kind of thing as your brainwave states.
Right. You are in this deep, kind of meditative
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state. And so that connection to the quantum
field opens up. And you get these downloads in
the form of dreams. And, you know.
Meredith Oke (41:11):
Yes. Do you have any thoughts on the dreamscape
and have you just personally experienced or
heard, you know, in your travels with other
people. If people's dreams have becoming more
intense lately or more frequent or more colorful?
Kelly Erickson (41:32):
I haven't had clients mention anything about
dreams lately. I know my dreams have been a
little bit more, like, in intuitive or
precognitive, but I haven't confirmed that or
spoken about it with other people. What are your
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thoughts?
Meredith Oke (41:55):
Yeah, I've noticed the same. My sample size is me
and my family, so I just wanted to see what else
was going on. But, yes, I have definitely noticed
that.
Kelly Erickson (42:08):
Yeah. And would you connect it to what's going on
with the Schumann residents and the solar flares
that we're getting?
Meredith Oke (42:18):
Possibly.
Kelly Erickson (42:19):
Yeah. Yeah.
Meredith Oke (42:21):
Possibly. Yes. Well, so. And I haven't taken the
time to, like, really dig into it, but I do think
there's something.
Kelly Erickson (42:30):
Yeah. Yeah. And so that kind of ties us, then,
back into the consciousness conversation is, you
know, when you. If you follow any accounts that
talk about the Schumann resonance and. Or the
solar flares and how we're getting these
energetic upgrades. That is what David Hawkins
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referred to in the 80s when, as a collective, we
just passed over that threshold into truth. And
that's when people really began seeking, you
know, truth about medications, truth about food,
truth about all sorts of things. Right. And so we
are receiving these energetic upgrades that are
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allowing us to expand our level of consciousness.
But at the same time, you're going to be called
to dig through these anger, shame, and fear
emotions so that you're no longer, you know,
perpetuating them or hanging on to them so that
you can experience that expansion. And then when
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people talk about 3D reality, what I think it's
referring to is anger, shame, and fear. And in
order to move into this 5D reality or anything
beyond that is through the processing of these
emotions and getting ourselves closer to that
frequency of love. And then when you think about
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love, love and light are synonymous, right? And
so we're getting all of these light codes, and we
were expanding our heart, we're expanding our
awareness. It's all kind of one in the same. Just
everybody's using a different language to
describe it, which makes it seem like there's all
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something separate. But I think it's. It's all
the same.
Meredith Oke (44:24):
Hmm. That makes a lot of sense. So when you say.
When you use the words light codes, because I
loved what you said earlier about being
discerning with our language. I think as we move
closer to truth, the discernment piece becomes
really important, just in general. That wasn't my
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point, though. Oh, yeah. So the light codes. And
then, okay, so as we, as a collective, move more
towards emitting a frequency of love, shall I
say? And then we're talking about the changes in
the Schumann resonance. We're talking about the
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solar flares. I'm working on a talk, and I'm
looking at, like, the Kali Yuga cycles, the Mayan
cycles, the Chinese cosmology cycles, and then as
well as some more, like, material, just history
cycles, economic cycles. And, like, it's been so
interesting. No matter. Like, I started out,
(45:28):
I'll, like, I'll just look at 1 or 2 as to make a
point. And now I'm, like, I've listed, like, nine
of them, and they're all. They all have an
overlap, which is that this moment in time, it's
basically insanely crazy in terms of
transformation, like, no matter which of those
systems you look at.
Kelly Erickson (45:47):
Right?
Meredith Oke (45:48):
And so now I'm hearing from you, like, even as
another lens through which to view this shift,
and you're talking human resonance, solar flares,
light codes. And is it our consciousness
affecting that? Or. Or is it. How do you see it?
(46:08):
Like, are we driving that? Is it driving us? Is
it a. Is it a symbiotic.
Kelly Erickson (46:13):
Interesting. I hadn't really. I guess I kind of
just Assumed it was affecting us. But when you
say that, it's like, well, it's all a bi
directional relationship, so we've got to be
feeding something back into it. But. Yeah, I
don't know. That's.
Meredith Oke (46:35):
I don't know either. I have no idea. Wow, that's.
Kelly Erickson (46:38):
I mean, that's definitely something to consider
and to apply it to, you know, these other time
periods in history where there was a lot of
chaos. You know, as we're expanding and moving
closer towards love, there is going to be a lot
of chaos because people have to work through that
(46:59):
anger, shame and fear. And that means a lot of
release, a lot of, you know, stirring the pot
from, you know, the bottom all the way up. And so
it may look a little ugly for a while, but I
think we're already beginning to see the shift
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in, you know, the way people are viewing things
and viewing themselves in relationship to the
collective.
Meredith Oke (47:31):
Yes. Yeah, I think so too. And, and that was.
Yeah, that's definitely a big piece of. It is.
There's, there's like a destabilizing piece to
transformation. And so ideally you want the old
systems that aren't working to give way to the
new ones, but not so fast that we're all buried
(47:55):
in the rubble. Yes.
Kelly Erickson (47:58):
Yeah. Yeah. And then the more I understood about
shame and you know, of course, with the election
coming up this year or, you know, happening this
year, and I started to view the political stage
through the lens of shame and societal
structures. Anything that ends in ism is based on
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shame. And so it requires us to disown ourselves
for it to be able to function the way that it
functions. And the minute that we all see step
back into our own personal power is the minute
those systems are no longer valid or operational
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for us. Right. Because that's not how we view
ourselves anymore.
Meredith Oke (48:48):
Yes. That's a beautiful way to describe it. And
that's how it feels to me. And that's how I feel
like I'm seeing it. It's like even the old. Back
to what you're saying about discerning language,
even the language tools that we use, you know,
left, right, this political party, that political
party, like they're becoming almost meaningless.
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And it's really about people who want to live in
the truth.
Kelly Erickson (49:14):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (49:15):
And not be controlled.
Kelly Erickson (49:17):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (49:18):
Versus people who are like, no, no, these systems
are better. It's better to have the system
controlling us. That's more where I see the
shift. And it has, you know, red, blue, purple,
up, down, left, right. Like it's those Things
have. Are dissolving and becoming largely
irrelevant.
Kelly Erickson (49:35):
Yeah, but it's all part of the process. You know,
it's not, you know, not judging other people
where they're at and how maybe they orient
towards safety, because for them, safety is those
systems. Right. They're relying on those systems
to keep them safe. But at some point in their
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journey, they will butt up against those very
systems and they'll be asked to look within and
reevaluate and, you know, ask the question, is
this system really working for me or is it
working against me? And we're all just at
different stages of that journey. And, you know,
(50:18):
I think over the coming generations, I. I just
don't see these systems being in place anymore.
Meredith Oke (50:27):
Yeah, I don't either. And I think the point
you're making is really good. And that was. It's
actually was kind of the point of this talk I'm
going to give is that for those of us who can
orient around the new paradigms, who can feel
safe and grounded in the world, even in the midst
(50:50):
of all this change, I feel like we have some
level of responsibility to show up for the people
you just described who are not there yet, and
it's going to feel really scary, and they're
going to be very disoriented. And especially
people in that space where the systems that they
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trusted. And we've all been there, probably
everyone listening to a podcast like this has
been there. Right. That system that we trust us,
that we trusted, has betrayed us.
Kelly Erickson (51:20):
Right.
Meredith Oke (51:21):
And when you feel that betrayal of the system or
the institution that your whole life you've felt
like you could rely on and you don't have an
alternative, that's a terrifying and scary place
to be. And that's where I feel like we all
collectively have a responsibility to help
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navigate that for people.
Kelly Erickson (51:46):
Yeah. And I think that's a beautiful point. And,
and you know, I've been saying this to my clients
and also in mine and Lauren's podcast. I think. I
think our souls speak different languages. And so
different people speak different language. That's
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not a very good way to describe it, but I think
our souls have their own unique language. And
each person, when we. When we tap into the
language of our own soul, that becomes the
language that we speak. We resonate at. And the
people who are. Who have souls that speak my
language will be drawn towards me, and the ones
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that speak your language will be drawn towards
you. We each are holding a piece of the puzzle,
like you just said. And so our duty is to take it
back out there and find the people that speak our
language so we can spread the message. I mean,
that sounds very religious or something, but you
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know, to, to help others navigate their own
experience.
Meredith Oke (53:00):
Yes. Yeah, no, absolutely. And it could be, you
know, you and I are doing podcasts, but it could
just be like you're that person in, in your
extended family or in your friend group. Yeah,
that's like, seems kind of okay and, and chill.
And so when someone needs to access that, like, I
(53:21):
remember I heard a man, I think, I'm pretty sure
it was a Christian man. It. But it doesn't
matter. But he was saying that. What did he say?
He said, you know, we have to, basically we have
to have a spiritual practice so that when, when
people need us and they will. We are who we say
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we are.
Kelly Erickson (53:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Meredith Oke (53:48):
And that, that always stayed with me. It's, it's
like, you know, when someone reaches out, who are
we?
Kelly Erickson (53:57):
Yeah, it's part of, it is also part of the
nervous system work is understanding your own
personal values. Because what those emotions,
when they arise, what they're telling you is what
you value. They're telling you about your own
soul's values. And so if you're getting angry
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when someone lies, you value honesty, you value
integrity, you value transparency, whatever.
Right. And so that spiritual practice is making
sure that you are connected to something higher
than yourself and your soul and so that you are
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operating in alignment with your own personal
values. Like you said. So when someone comes to
you, you can, you are in alignment and you're not
saying one thing and doing another.
Meredith Oke (54:57):
Right?
Kelly Erickson (54:58):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (55:00):
So good. This has been so, so interesting, Kelly.
I love it so much. Is there anything like coming
to you that you want to say next or that you
wanted to say that you haven't said?
Kelly Erickson (55:12):
No, I don't think so. I just the connection
between the nervous system and consciousness. And
then also you can add in the piece of like
internal family systems model, which is the core
self energy and the parts that we develop as like
coping strategies to navigate the world. They're
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all describing the same thing. And so that makes
the end goal from all three models. The end goal
is love. So, you know, finding our way back to
love in whichever way you can begin to do that
and we can do it in very small ways in our day to
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day life so you don't have to go out and hire
some coach and have some massive transformation.
You know, you can do a lot of the work on your
own at home.
Meredith Oke (56:05):
Yeah, it's true. It's in all the, all the little
moments of the day. Although I will say working
with someone is often helpful. So if anyone
resonates, go work with Kelly.
Kelly Erickson (56:16):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely can. Yeah, yeah.
Meredith Oke (56:21):
Yeah. And then just to bring it back to the light
piece before we wrap up, it's like, you know,
I'll use myself as the example. Right. So I did a
lot of, A lot of the work that, you know, you've,
you're describing and I still got sick. And I
think there was a part of me that was judging
myself for that. And it's like, oh, if you've
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like mastered your. Mastered your mind and healed
your childhood, like, what do you. Why are you
getting sick? Right. But I was missing the, the
piece where I understood the impact that my
environment was having on me and, and
particularly light. So I added that in and it was
like, ha, ha. But I found over time that it's,
(57:01):
you know, as you were saying at the beginning,
it's like it's a spiral. And so I feel it then,
you know, as I've infused myself with healthy
light over time, that has called me to up level
back in the other ways.
Kelly Erickson (57:20):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (57:20):
And then I go back in the light and I'm starting
to hear from people who've been doing this few
years that they're like becoming off the charts
intuitive, borderline psychic. And all of these
things are starting to happen as we, as we
continue continually move through.
Kelly Erickson (57:38):
Yeah. Because that love and light are synonymous
with each other. They're often referred to as one
and the same throughout ancient texts and
history. Right. And so it's not surprising that
going out into the sunlight expands your level of
consciousness and unburdens the heart to some
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degree and fills you with love, you know? Pretty
cool. It's pretty cool. It's all just so
fascinating. It really is. And it's all so
exciting. And to even have a platform to share
this kind of information, like, I just never
thought I. I never imagined this would be my life
(58:25):
or that I would be sitting here talking to you
about love and consciousness, light and all of
these things. It's just, it's really profound. We
live in a really awesome time.
Meredith Oke (58:38):
Yeah, I totally agree. I sometimes, and I was
like working on that presentation and I'm like
making notes about astrology and frequency. I was
at a co working space and the woman next to me, I
saw her glance down at my notes and I was like,
yeah, this is what I'm doing for my job. It's
(59:00):
pretty incredible. And then we have these
platforms to share it. Yeah, no, we. I don't know
what you know. I don't want to use terms that
will activate people in one way or the other, but
however we all ended up here at the same time in
this moment of time is, as you said, deeply
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profound.
Kelly Erickson (59:25):
Yes. There are no coincidences. I don't believe
so.
Meredith Oke (59:30):
Yeah.
Kelly Erickson (59:31):
Well, thank you so much, Meredith. I really
appreciate it.
Meredith Oke (59:35):
Thank you for being here, Kelly. This was
wonderful and we will be doing it again.
Kelly Erickson (59:39):
Okay, sounds great.
Meredith Oke (59:42):
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Erickson. Welcome back to the QVC podcast. It is
so good to see you again.
Kelly Erickson (04:47):
Yes, good to see you as well, Meredith. Thank you
for having me back.
Meredith Oke (04:51):
Oh, it's such a pleasure. I love following your
journey. You do such a nice job of sharing on
Instagram. You know, I think it's a real gift for
people who are able to communicate that way
because it reaches so many people. And you do,
like, a really beautiful job.
Kelly Erickson (05:08):
Thank you very much.
Meredith Oke (05:09):
I love that. All right, so you have, like, a
really incredible kind of healing story that is,
as with everybody, ongoing. So let's start with
the circadian piece and tell us sort of how you
came to that and just a high level explanation of
(05:33):
why it matters so, so much.
Kelly Erickson (05:37):
Sure. So when I began this journey, I had just
gotten sober. I was trying to help my son with
his health stuff, but I also had my own health
issues. I had PTSD and cptsd. And so through the
(06:00):
process of trying to get him back to a state of
wellness, I also was working on myself and
applied anything that I asked him to do. So we
came across the quantum community and we were
told about the ketogenic diet and sunlight. And
(06:21):
so we began to implement it. And I saw rapid
changes, not just in my son, but in myself as
well. I really was just hoping to lose weight.
Like that's what my goal was. I had no idea that
what I was doing was going to have such a
profound impact on me. I had nightmares. I had
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significant anxiety, depression, ruminating
thoughts, intrusive thoughts. And so all of this
began to shift, really what I felt really rapidly
because I was over 40 years old and I had
experienced this most of my life. So when I
started to feel these changes, I wanted to know
(07:08):
exactly what was going on. So I began to study. I
followed some really important people on
Instagram and in the quantum community and just
began to absorb as much as I could. And I learned
some really important things, things about our
circadian timing system and how it's in
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relationship to our stress management system and
our energy management system. So our circadian
timing system consists of a master clock inside
of our brain, and it's called the suprachiasmatic
nucleus. And then we have these little peripheral
clocks all throughout the body, and they need to
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be in sync with each other, in relationship with
each other to communicate about time within the
body. And this tells our hormones and, you know,
all these different processes throughout the body
what time of day they should be functioning. And
so when we use sunlight and really key specific
(08:14):
times of sunlight, we can help reset this system.
And so immediately I saw improvements in my three
sleep, improvements in my mood, but also because
the. The circadian timing system is in
relationship with the stress management system, I
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was also better able to regulate my moods and my
emotions. My. I want to be careful how I say this
because I don't want to give the wrong idea, but
I just. I began to feel like a different person.
And. And so through this, you know, the studying
(08:57):
that I did, I discovered there's a lot taking
place inside the body that requires light as a
primary signal in order for it to function
optimally.
Meredith Oke (09:11):
Okay, tell us. Tell us a little more about what
you found.
Kelly Erickson (09:15):
Yeah, so, you know, when we. So my history, like
I said, was PTSD and cptsd. And when we have a
history of trauma, we. We know, we call it
stress. Right? We have a massive amount of
stress, and stress dysregulates the entire
(09:36):
system. But more specifically, emotions
dysregulate the entire system because we don't
have. We're not really taught how to bring
awareness to our emotions. We're not really
taught about how our perception plays into our
(09:58):
emotions or can kind of keep our emotions from
being processed. And so when we don't understand,
process primary emotions, or what I call core
emotions, which are anger, shame, and fear, then
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we begin to navigate the world from our space of
perception, or our feelings rather than our
emotions. And our emotions and feelings are very
different from each other. Feelings are emotions
rather are. They're primal, they're instinctual,
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they arise immediately. And feelings are the
meaning that we give to the emotions. Most people
live in the state of feeling and their perception
of what's going on, which keeps triggering the
(11:05):
emotional response. And so this leads us to the
nervous system and how we view the nervous system
through the polyvagal theory. So the polyvagal
theory tells us that we have three primary states
of nervous system activation. So we have the
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fight response, we have the flight response, we
have the freeze response. And then kind of
collapse or fawn are in there as well. And so the
fight response is associated with anger. That's
the primary emotion that drives that response.
Then we have fear, which drives the flight
response, and we have freeze, which drives or
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shame, which drives the freeze response. And we
have problems with nervous system regulation
because we don't know how to navigate those three
primary emotions. And so understanding that these
emotions are core emotions. And emotions are
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energy in motion, right? And energy is
information. So these emotions are designed to
inform us about our environment, about our
experience, but we're not using that information.
We're living in a space of feeling, and that's
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perception. And our perception is developed from,
you know, beginning stages of life. And it's
largely personality driven. It has a lot to do
with our unique experiences. And so we disconnect
from emotions and we live primarily in feelings.
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And this, this creates a disconnect between the
mind and the body because we need to understand
where things are coming from and how our nervous
system is becoming dysregulated. But these three
primary emotions of anger, shame and fear, it's
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also what we call the ego, because the ego is
this protective mechanism that is designed to
keep us safe when we're navigating the world. But
if we're stuck in these three primary emotions,
we're essentially stuck in the ego. And this kind
of takes us into the world of consciousness. And
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when we look at consciousness through David
Hawkins scale of consciousness, right at the
bottom of the scale we see shame. And there, you
know, and so that's the freeze response again.
And so if, you know, when we go out seeking a
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healing journey, there are so many places where
we, we get kind of hung up. So like the first
place people usually seek healing is through
food. That's the most obvious, right? And then
they'll see some improvements with changing their
nutrition. And then maybe they add exercise. And
(14:29):
from exercise they might, you know, add a little
bit of meditation or a little bit of this. But
still they're stuck. And what I get a lot of
clients saying is that they feel like they lack
purpose or that they're disconnected from their
selves, but they are seemingly normal, everyday
(14:51):
people. They can, you know, have jobs and do all
of these things, but they're still very
disconnected. And when I ask them about their
emotional states or their primary nervous system
states, they have a very difficult time
identifying which states they live in and which
emotions that they're primarily experiencing. And
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so we begin to use language as a tool to inform
us about what we're experiencing. And I think
there's a lot of language can be a tool or a
weapon. And so developing discernment within
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language can be really Helpful in understanding
not just what's happening with inside of us, but
also what we're experiencing in the external
world. And so shame. You know, shame is this
really. This kind of takes us back to our last
(16:00):
podcast together. Sorry if I am jumping around a
little bit, but I was really wanting to explain
this for anyone who may have listened to our last
podcast together, because I really. I messed it
up. I was on the verge of tears the entire time.
I was so worried about getting all of the details
(16:23):
right, and I didn't want to mess things up. And
it's this kind of perfectionistic desire to
control my image and kind of feeling like an
imposter. And when we got off that call, I wanted
to quit everything. I was like, that's it. I'm
never showing my face again. I can't do this. I
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don't belong here. And it took me a couple of
weeks to really understand what was happening.
And I was actually listening to a podcast on
homeschooling, and it occurred to me what was
happening. So I view you as an authority in the
(17:04):
field of quantum biology, and I didn't. I mean, I
viewed myself as an authority within my own
framework. But when I was coming to do the
podcast with you, authority to authority, that
kind of. It felt like confrontation in my nervous
(17:26):
system. So I went into freeze mode and I could
not think. Like, I just couldn't recall anything.
I was. I was so confused. And so this led me back
to the work I'd already been doing on
consciousness. And I went back to David Hawkins
(17:46):
book and where he discussed shame. And I was
like, oh, that's what it was. I was experiencing
shame in that moment because I viewed you as an
authority. And when we have shame, it robs us of.
Of our personal authority. It robs us of our own
(18:10):
personal power. And I was like, oh, my gosh, this
is what's happening. I was triggering my own
shame based on my perceptions, based upon a
narrative that I had developed early in childhood
about my own self worth. And I was like, phew.
(18:34):
Now. Oh, my goodness. It was so, you know, the
universe, I think, gives us exactly what we need,
exactly when we need it, but it's what we do with
it that makes or breaks us. And so I could have
gone into a hole and deleted my Instagram profile
(18:56):
and never did the work again and never showed my
face, but instead I was like, okay, I can do this
now that I know what I'm working with. And even
right now, my face is turning a little bit red.
And that kind of indicates that I'm experiencing
a little bit of shame, but I'm not afraid of it
anymore. And because I can identify it and I know
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exactly what's happening, it doesn't overwhelm me
in the same way that it did a year ago when we
had that initial podcast. So then through, you
know, all of the work and my studies on quantum
biology and their circadian timing system, what I
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then discovered is that emotions and our
experience of time are like in a marriage
together. They're intimately linked up and we
know, or you know, I, I mean, I think it's
definitive that time and space are constructs of
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perception. They don't like reality isn't
actually dependent upon them. And our mind is
what creates time in order for us to make sense
of the world. And when we have these emotional
experiences, extremely overwhelming emotional
(20:24):
experiences that we don't process, where we
experience anger, shame, and fear, what we're
doing is we're altering our perception of. Of
time. And it's not just our perception of time,
but it's actually we're messing with our timing
mechanisms within the body. Because, like I said,
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that stress management system and the circadian
timing system are in this bi directional
relationship with each other. And so it's like,
oh, my gosh, of course. It's all connected. It's
all wanted.
Meredith Oke (20:59):
Oh, wow.
Kelly Erickson (21:01):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (21:02):
And then we come right back, right back to the.
To the circadian piece and how intentionally
living within the natural cycles of that is
regulating our nervous system on an emotional
level.
Kelly Erickson (21:15):
Yes, Kelly.
Meredith Oke (21:20):
Wow. I love it. And I also want to acknowledge
you and thank you for sharing about your
emotional experience and that we, we communicated
briefly about it in messages. But that is like,
you know, first of all, thank you for being
vulnerable enough and brave enough to share what
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your experience was and, and to keep going, you
know, and it's just. It's funny. Like, there's a
few things I want to say, right? It's like, it in
my mind, I'm like, I'm just like a lady
interviewing people, and I'm excited to hear
people's stories, but I have had that feedback
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multiple times that people feel very nervous. And
so I even. I had invited someone on the podcast
and she didn't write back right away. And I was
like, and I thought of you and I wrote her again.
And I was like, I'm just really excited to hear
your story. And here's what I'm thinking. We're
going to talk about. It's just going to be fun,
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you know, and she Was like, oh, okay, thanks. I
was really scared to book it.
Kelly Erickson (22:30):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (22:32):
And. And I have the same. I have the same thing
too. I went on a bunch of podcasts a couple years
ago, and I wasn't planning to. I had to step in
because I was, like, planning for someone else.
They'd been booked and I was kind of planning for
someone else to do it. So I did it. And I had
that exact, like, every single time. I was like,
oh, my God, what am I doing? I have no business
doing. Yeah. And yeah, I often have people circle
(22:56):
back and be like, I forgot to say this or I
didn't say that. So it's interesting because I do
think that this platform, the platform of
podcasting, which is available to anybody if, you
know, you and Lauren have a beautiful podcast
going now. Like, it really is a personal growth
opportunity in a way that I did not see coming.
Kelly Erickson (23:17):
Yes, it really is. And to look back at our. The
first episode that Lauren and I recorded together
versus this last episode that we just recorded
with Morley Robbins, it's just a world of
difference. And it's only been a year's time. I
mean, granted, I am someone who does a lot of
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personal growth, you know, outside of these
things, but you do. You are confronted with parts
of yourself that maybe you don't get to
experience in your regular day to day
interactions. So. Yeah. Yeah. Vulnerable.
Meredith Oke (23:56):
Yeah. And yeah. The authority piece, the being in
the spotlight piece, there's so many different
pieces to it. Okay, so let's circle back to the
circadian and the emotions. So I think this is
really interesting, the difference between
emotions and feelings. So if, if I'm walking and
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I realize, like, I'm at the edge of a cliff and
I'm like. And I have that, like, rush of panic
that I'm gonna fall off the edge of the cliff,
and I step back. That's an emotion.
Kelly Erickson (24:31):
Yes, that's.
Meredith Oke (24:32):
And then, okay, so that's fear. And then if I
start thinking like, oh, my God, Meredith, I
can't believe you'd be so stupid as to walk near
the edge of a cliff. And what, am I gonna die?
And then if I die, what's gonna happen to my,
like, those that. That have gone into feelings.
Kelly Erickson (24:47):
Yes. Yes.
Meredith Oke (24:48):
Okay.
Kelly Erickson (24:48):
Yes. And a lot of people, because they don't
recognize the difference between the two, they
will perpetuate the emotion. That feeling of fear
with the narrative or that self talk that they
keep doing with reliving. Reliving the feelings.
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So, like, keep saying to yourself, I'm so stupid,
I can't believe I did that. And every time you do
that, you're re triggering that fear response.
And so your nervous system is just responding
physiologically over and over and over again. And
so a lot of the work that I do with clients is we
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start by mapping the nervous system. I have them
write down several times a day their primary
emotions, their primary behaviors, and their
primary symptoms. And then we go back and we see
what emotions, you know, I mean, I can look at it
and see what emotions they're experiencing on a
pretty regular basis. And then we dive into that
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narrative and where it was developed as a child.
Like, where did you learn that you were unworthy
or unlovable or whatever it is? Right. And just,
you know, we know from the observer effect, just
that process of observation begins to shift
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things pretty massively. And then it's the
healing spiral. We're given opportunities to
revisit each, you know, each emotion over and
over again with a new level of awareness. And
each time you bring a new level of awareness,
you're observing it differently and you're
shifting it again. And so we just keep repeating
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this pattern over and over again. And what we're
doing is we're unburdening the heart. So we know
from the HeartMath Institute, right, that there
is heart brain coherence. And when they are out
of sync, primarily due to, you know, these
overwhelming, unprocessed emotions, we have a
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very chaotic toroidal field. And this toroidal
field informs our relationship to other people.
And so this is where we can get into, like,
attachment wounds. And if you think about what is
in what information is being sent out from your
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heart in that electromagnetic field that extends
up to what, 12, 15ft from your body, what kind of
information are you sending out to the people
you're in relationship to? Is it one of fear? Is
it one of anger? Is it one of shame? And then
what is it attracting back to you in
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relationships? And so when I look at attachment
wounds or attachment theory, that's really how I
view it is from that heart brain coherence kind
of field of information that we know about.
Meredith Oke (28:10):
So cool. So it's like the. There's like a chaos
in our frequency, and that is what other people
are sensing.
Kelly Erickson (28:22):
Yes. And then we're responding to theirs. Right?
And so it's being sent out and then coming back
to us. So, you know, it's this constant field of
information informing our perception and our
experience of where we sit within the world or
within relationship to others. And so when we can
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work on Heart, brain coherence through
unburdening some of these emotions and then using
things like the HeartMath Institute app, and, you
know, you can use that. You create this coherent
field of information that goes out. You are
operating from a space of love, and then you are
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informing your relationship to other people of
love, and it begins to balance out that
electromagnetic signal and feedback system that
you're getting when you're in relationship to
other people.
Meredith Oke (29:27):
So. Interesting.
Kelly Erickson (29:28):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (29:29):
And that would probably affect, like, who you're.
Who you choose to be around. I mean, I remember,
you know, so we have a lot of common. A lot of
things in common on our journey. And my husband,
he said something to me one time. It was
something. He's like, why do you always have to
have, like, one totally crazy friend? And I was
(29:55):
like, I don't know, but I always did. I was just
somehow always attracted to an agent of chaos
that I had to have. And there were other people,
and they seemed who I could be friends with, but
they seemed boring. And as I healed, I was like,
oh, they're not boring. They're just not chaotic.
Kelly Erickson (30:14):
Right, right.
Meredith Oke (30:15):
And it totally shifted. And I no longer have any
agents of chaos by choice. There's a few I'm
related to, but, yeah, it does. So that's like a
super interesting lens to, like, understand that
behavior.
Kelly Erickson (30:32):
Yeah, yeah. And it changes our relationship with
others in. In a more profound way as well. So
when we look at these emotions from David
Hawkins, scale of Consciousness, anger, shame,
and fear sit below. Well, fear and shame really
sit below what is called the frequency of truth.
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And it's when we begin to rise above those
frequencies that we begin to seek truth. And it's
truth in all manners. And love is the ultimate
truth frequency, in my opinion. And so as we
navigate up and we begin, we, you know, unburden
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the heart with each layer. We get closer and
closer to the truth or to the frequency of love.
And I believe that love, in the way that we
understand it from society's perspective, it's
really. It's. We're given the perception that
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love is very transactional. It's, I'm giving you
love, I'm doing this out of love, et cetera. But
I believe from my own personal experience that
when we are the frequency of love, there is. It's
not transactional at all. And we begin to see
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things like judgment or resentment or, you know,
these other kind of filters through which we
experience other humans, they begin to dissolve.
And we can see other people through a much more
(32:25):
unfiltered perception, I guess. So resentment and
judgment would be filters that you are
experiencing other people through. And so love,
to me is much more about a frequency that we
operate from. And then we begin to feed our
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relationships with this frequency, and it can
help other people begin to balance out their
instability, their chaos. It can inform their
field of information. You know, we know through
nervous system regulation work that we can help
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others regulate their nervous system. It's called
co regulation. Right. And that's what a mother
does with her child when she picks up her baby
after it's hurt and it's hurt itself. We can do
that also from the frequency of love. And we
begin to bring stability into all of our
relationships. Now, this doesn't mean we control
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other people and it's automatically going to fix
everything about them, but it does. It does
provide a platform of stability and coherence
rather than chaos and, you know, further
instability.
Meredith Oke (33:52):
Yes. Beautiful. And then we, you know, if we are
creating that field or contributing to that field
of love and that becomes dominant, then we can
help to regulate others who. I mean, I guess you
probably have to be open to it to a certain
(34:13):
extent. Right. But just by being in that. And I'm
thinking now of like, recovery groups, you know,
places like Alcoholics Anonymous, where you have
that, like, container of acceptance. And it's so
not trans. The opposite of transactional. Right.
Is really vibrating at a frequency of love. And
someone comes in who's an absolute at the bottom
(34:36):
as. As they say, and they are, at least for the
duration of the time that they're in that space,
they. They can become regulated. And you see how
it's that. That frequency of love.
Kelly Erickson (34:49):
Yes. A hundred percent. And it's interesting you
brought up the AA groups because in David Hawkins
book, when he's talking about consciousness
itself. Yeah, it's. Alcoholics Anonymous is one
of the, you know, few or many groups that
vibrates at the frequency of truth. And it is
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that unconditional love, that lack of judgment
that individuals bring into the room and help
others recover.
Meredith Oke (35:24):
That's right. Yeah. I forgot. He has a beautiful
section on that.
Kelly Erickson (35:29):
Yep.
Meredith Oke (35:30):
Yeah. You know, he really understood that at a
deep level. He was amazing.
Kelly Erickson (35:34):
Yeah. Yeah.
Meredith Oke (35:35):
I have his book by my bed. Just. I open it
randomly every couple of days. Yeah, beautiful.
Kelly Erickson (35:43):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (35:44):
Okay, so let's. Let's bring it back to. Okay.
We've talked about the difference between
emotions and feelings and sort of stabilizing our
toroidal field, so to speak, by being regulated
in our nervous system and not constantly pinging
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around between the feelings and the emotions. And
let's explore a little more the role that nature
and photons and darkness play in that in this
landscape.
Kelly Erickson (36:21):
Yeah. So nature, of course, is like our original
home. It is the place where, you know, we
evolved, you know, and so it's no surprise that
when we go out into nature, there are all kinds
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of benefits that we can receive. So sunlight is
one of them. We get photons of sunlight. And
there's so much that we could talk about with
sunlight specifically and helping it to regulate
your emotional landscape or your nervous system
(37:06):
or your mitochondria. There's just so many
benefits to sunlight. I think it's an equilibrium
frequency and it really does help bring us back
into balance in so many different ways. You can
go out into the woods and receive phytonicides
(37:28):
from pine trees, and these are really beneficial
for regulating the nervous system. You can go out
and be around a waterfall or running water and
get negative ions. Or even in after a
thunderstorm, there's negative ions in the air
(37:50):
that are extremely beneficial. You can put your
feet to the bare earth and receive electrons from
the earth that help to regulate your nervous
system and bring balance back in. Yeah, but also,
like when we're out in nature, our field, our
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connection to the quantum field is uninterrupted.
And so I think when we go out into nature and we
don't have the headphones on or the cell phone on
our pocket, in our pocket, kind of sending these
altered frequencies, I think this is the ultimate
opportunity for connection to the quantum field
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and where so many people, including myself, get
our, our downloads or these like, aha moments, or
some people might call them spiritual moments.
And I think that's because we. There's no
interference between us and the quantum field.
And we have a very regulated nervous system. So I
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take a walk every single day, and that's where I
get these, you know, insights into things are
like my next idea for what I'm gonna do. And, you
know, it just appears to come out of nowhere, but
it's. It's not. You know, walking is like moving
meditation. All of these benefits that we can get
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from being outside listening to the birds and,
you know, the, the, the horizon has benefits.
Like watching the horizon walking down a straight
and narrow road has benefits for your perception.
I mean, you really can't beat time outside in any
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way.
Meredith Oke (39:40):
Wow. So much there and, and, and the moving
around. You're remind. You're reminding me. I
watched this movie, I think, last winter. It's,
it's old. It's on YouTube. You can find it. It's
called Copenhagen, and it's about Niels Bohr. And
I forget all. Anyway, it's all these, like, early
(40:02):
pioneers of quantum physics. And they have this.
They're discussing all of the big breakthroughs
that they had. And they were like, oh, yeah, I
remember that. We would, like. We'd be around the
table, like, pouring over the formulas, and we
were like, ah, we're never gonna get it. And then
we'd go out for a hike in those Swiss mountains,
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and all the breakthroughs would come. And they
told. They were just talking and telling stories,
the characters. But I noticed every time they
talked about when they had a breakthrough is when
they left the work and went skiing or went hiking
or went outside.
Kelly Erickson (40:36):
Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's not
surprising. I mean, it really isn't, you know,
but also, I think a lot of people get
breakthroughs while they're sleeping. And it's
the same kind of thing as your brainwave states.
Right. You are in this deep, kind of meditative
(40:58):
state. And so that connection to the quantum
field opens up. And you get these downloads in
the form of dreams. And, you know.
Meredith Oke (41:11):
Yes. Do you have any thoughts on the dreamscape
and have you just personally experienced or
heard, you know, in your travels with other
people. If people's dreams have becoming more
intense lately or more frequent or more colorful?
Kelly Erickson (41:32):
I haven't had clients mention anything about
dreams lately. I know my dreams have been a
little bit more, like, in intuitive or
precognitive, but I haven't confirmed that or
spoken about it with other people. What are your
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thoughts?
Meredith Oke (41:55):
Yeah, I've noticed the same. My sample size is me
and my family, so I just wanted to see what else
was going on. But, yes, I have definitely noticed
that.
Kelly Erickson (42:08):
Yeah. And would you connect it to what's going on
with the Schumann residents and the solar flares
that we're getting?
Meredith Oke (42:18):
Possibly.
Kelly Erickson (42:19):
Yeah. Yeah.
Meredith Oke (42:21):
Possibly. Yes. Well, so. And I haven't taken the
time to, like, really dig into it, but I do think
there's something.
Kelly Erickson (42:30):
Yeah. Yeah. And so that kind of ties us, then,
back into the consciousness conversation is, you
know, when you. If you follow any accounts that
talk about the Schumann resonance and. Or the
solar flares and how we're getting these
energetic upgrades. That is what David Hawkins
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referred to in the 80s when, as a collective, we
just passed over that threshold into truth. And
that's when people really began seeking, you
know, truth about medications, truth about food,
truth about all sorts of things. Right. And so we
are receiving these energetic upgrades that are
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allowing us to expand our level of consciousness.
But at the same time, you're going to be called
to dig through these anger, shame, and fear
emotions so that you're no longer, you know,
perpetuating them or hanging on to them so that
you can experience that expansion. And then when
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people talk about 3D reality, what I think it's
referring to is anger, shame, and fear. And in
order to move into this 5D reality or anything
beyond that is through the processing of these
emotions and getting ourselves closer to that
frequency of love. And then when you think about
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love, love and light are synonymous, right? And
so we're getting all of these light codes, and we
were expanding our heart, we're expanding our
awareness. It's all kind of one in the same. Just
everybody's using a different language to
describe it, which makes it seem like there's all
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something separate. But I think it's. It's all
the same.
Meredith Oke (44:24):
Hmm. That makes a lot of sense. So when you say.
When you use the words light codes, because I
loved what you said earlier about being
discerning with our language. I think as we move
closer to truth, the discernment piece becomes
really important, just in general. That wasn't my
(44:45):
point, though. Oh, yeah. So the light codes. And
then, okay, so as we, as a collective, move more
towards emitting a frequency of love, shall I
say? And then we're talking about the changes in
the Schumann resonance. We're talking about the
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solar flares. I'm working on a talk, and I'm
looking at, like, the Kali Yuga cycles, the Mayan
cycles, the Chinese cosmology cycles, and then as
well as some more, like, material, just history
cycles, economic cycles. And, like, it's been so
interesting. No matter. Like, I started out,
(45:28):
I'll, like, I'll just look at 1 or 2 as to make a
point. And now I'm, like, I've listed, like, nine
of them, and they're all. They all have an
overlap, which is that this moment in time, it's
basically insanely crazy in terms of
transformation, like, no matter which of those
systems you look at.
Kelly Erickson (45:47):
Right?
Meredith Oke (45:48):
And so now I'm hearing from you, like, even as
another lens through which to view this shift,
and you're talking human resonance, solar flares,
light codes. And is it our consciousness
affecting that? Or. Or is it. How do you see it?
(46:08):
Like, are we driving that? Is it driving us? Is
it a. Is it a symbiotic.
Kelly Erickson (46:13):
Interesting. I hadn't really. I guess I kind of
just Assumed it was affecting us. But when you
say that, it's like, well, it's all a bi
directional relationship, so we've got to be
feeding something back into it. But. Yeah, I
don't know. That's.
Meredith Oke (46:35):
I don't know either. I have no idea. Wow, that's.
Kelly Erickson (46:38):
I mean, that's definitely something to consider
and to apply it to, you know, these other time
periods in history where there was a lot of
chaos. You know, as we're expanding and moving
closer towards love, there is going to be a lot
of chaos because people have to work through that
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anger, shame and fear. And that means a lot of
release, a lot of, you know, stirring the pot
from, you know, the bottom all the way up. And so
it may look a little ugly for a while, but I
think we're already beginning to see the shift
(47:21):
in, you know, the way people are viewing things
and viewing themselves in relationship to the
collective.
Meredith Oke (47:31):
Yes. Yeah, I think so too. And, and that was.
Yeah, that's definitely a big piece of. It is.
There's, there's like a destabilizing piece to
transformation. And so ideally you want the old
systems that aren't working to give way to the
new ones, but not so fast that we're all buried
(47:55):
in the rubble. Yes.
Kelly Erickson (47:58):
Yeah. Yeah. And then the more I understood about
shame and you know, of course, with the election
coming up this year or, you know, happening this
year, and I started to view the political stage
through the lens of shame and societal
structures. Anything that ends in ism is based on
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shame. And so it requires us to disown ourselves
for it to be able to function the way that it
functions. And the minute that we all see step
back into our own personal power is the minute
those systems are no longer valid or operational
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for us. Right. Because that's not how we view
ourselves anymore.
Meredith Oke (48:48):
Yes. That's a beautiful way to describe it. And
that's how it feels to me. And that's how I feel
like I'm seeing it. It's like even the old. Back
to what you're saying about discerning language,
even the language tools that we use, you know,
left, right, this political party, that political
party, like they're becoming almost meaningless.
(49:09):
And it's really about people who want to live in
the truth.
Kelly Erickson (49:14):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (49:15):
And not be controlled.
Kelly Erickson (49:17):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (49:18):
Versus people who are like, no, no, these systems
are better. It's better to have the system
controlling us. That's more where I see the
shift. And it has, you know, red, blue, purple,
up, down, left, right. Like it's those Things
have. Are dissolving and becoming largely
irrelevant.
Kelly Erickson (49:35):
Yeah, but it's all part of the process. You know,
it's not, you know, not judging other people
where they're at and how maybe they orient
towards safety, because for them, safety is those
systems. Right. They're relying on those systems
to keep them safe. But at some point in their
(49:57):
journey, they will butt up against those very
systems and they'll be asked to look within and
reevaluate and, you know, ask the question, is
this system really working for me or is it
working against me? And we're all just at
different stages of that journey. And, you know,
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I think over the coming generations, I. I just
don't see these systems being in place anymore.
Meredith Oke (50:27):
Yeah, I don't either. And I think the point
you're making is really good. And that was. It's
actually was kind of the point of this talk I'm
going to give is that for those of us who can
orient around the new paradigms, who can feel
safe and grounded in the world, even in the midst
(50:50):
of all this change, I feel like we have some
level of responsibility to show up for the people
you just described who are not there yet, and
it's going to feel really scary, and they're
going to be very disoriented. And especially
people in that space where the systems that they
(51:11):
trusted. And we've all been there, probably
everyone listening to a podcast like this has
been there. Right. That system that we trust us,
that we trusted, has betrayed us.
Kelly Erickson (51:20):
Right.
Meredith Oke (51:21):
And when you feel that betrayal of the system or
the institution that your whole life you've felt
like you could rely on and you don't have an
alternative, that's a terrifying and scary place
to be. And that's where I feel like we all
collectively have a responsibility to help
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navigate that for people.
Kelly Erickson (51:46):
Yeah. And I think that's a beautiful point. And,
and you know, I've been saying this to my clients
and also in mine and Lauren's podcast. I think. I
think our souls speak different languages. And so
different people speak different language. That's
(52:10):
not a very good way to describe it, but I think
our souls have their own unique language. And
each person, when we. When we tap into the
language of our own soul, that becomes the
language that we speak. We resonate at. And the
people who are. Who have souls that speak my
language will be drawn towards me, and the ones
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that speak your language will be drawn towards
you. We each are holding a piece of the puzzle,
like you just said. And so our duty is to take it
back out there and find the people that speak our
language so we can spread the message. I mean,
that sounds very religious or something, but you
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know, to, to help others navigate their own
experience.
Meredith Oke (53:00):
Yes. Yeah, no, absolutely. And it could be, you
know, you and I are doing podcasts, but it could
just be like you're that person in, in your
extended family or in your friend group. Yeah,
that's like, seems kind of okay and, and chill.
And so when someone needs to access that, like, I
(53:21):
remember I heard a man, I think, I'm pretty sure
it was a Christian man. It. But it doesn't
matter. But he was saying that. What did he say?
He said, you know, we have to, basically we have
to have a spiritual practice so that when, when
people need us and they will. We are who we say
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we are.
Kelly Erickson (53:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Meredith Oke (53:48):
And that, that always stayed with me. It's, it's
like, you know, when someone reaches out, who are
we?
Kelly Erickson (53:57):
Yeah, it's part of, it is also part of the
nervous system work is understanding your own
personal values. Because what those emotions,
when they arise, what they're telling you is what
you value. They're telling you about your own
soul's values. And so if you're getting angry
(54:20):
when someone lies, you value honesty, you value
integrity, you value transparency, whatever.
Right. And so that spiritual practice is making
sure that you are connected to something higher
than yourself and your soul and so that you are
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operating in alignment with your own personal
values. Like you said. So when someone comes to
you, you can, you are in alignment and you're not
saying one thing and doing another.
Meredith Oke (54:57):
Right?
Kelly Erickson (54:58):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (55:00):
So good. This has been so, so interesting, Kelly.
I love it so much. Is there anything like coming
to you that you want to say next or that you
wanted to say that you haven't said?
Kelly Erickson (55:12):
No, I don't think so. I just the connection
between the nervous system and consciousness. And
then also you can add in the piece of like
internal family systems model, which is the core
self energy and the parts that we develop as like
coping strategies to navigate the world. They're
(55:33):
all describing the same thing. And so that makes
the end goal from all three models. The end goal
is love. So, you know, finding our way back to
love in whichever way you can begin to do that
and we can do it in very small ways in our day to
(55:55):
day life so you don't have to go out and hire
some coach and have some massive transformation.
You know, you can do a lot of the work on your
own at home.
Meredith Oke (56:05):
Yeah, it's true. It's in all the, all the little
moments of the day. Although I will say working
with someone is often helpful. So if anyone
resonates, go work with Kelly.
Kelly Erickson (56:16):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely can. Yeah, yeah.
Meredith Oke (56:21):
Yeah. And then just to bring it back to the light
piece before we wrap up, it's like, you know,
I'll use myself as the example. Right. So I did a
lot of, A lot of the work that, you know, you've,
you're describing and I still got sick. And I
think there was a part of me that was judging
myself for that. And it's like, oh, if you've
(56:41):
like mastered your. Mastered your mind and healed
your childhood, like, what do you. Why are you
getting sick? Right. But I was missing the, the
piece where I understood the impact that my
environment was having on me and, and
particularly light. So I added that in and it was
like, ha, ha. But I found over time that it's,
(57:01):
you know, as you were saying at the beginning,
it's like it's a spiral. And so I feel it then,
you know, as I've infused myself with healthy
light over time, that has called me to up level
back in the other ways.
Kelly Erickson (57:20):
Yeah.
Meredith Oke (57:20):
And then I go back in the light and I'm starting
to hear from people who've been doing this few
years that they're like becoming off the charts
intuitive, borderline psychic. And all of these
things are starting to happen as we, as we
continue continually move through.
Kelly Erickson (57:38):
Yeah. Because that love and light are synonymous
with each other. They're often referred to as one
and the same throughout ancient texts and
history. Right. And so it's not surprising that
going out into the sunlight expands your level of
consciousness and unburdens the heart to some
(58:01):
degree and fills you with love, you know? Pretty
cool. It's pretty cool. It's all just so
fascinating. It really is. And it's all so
exciting. And to even have a platform to share
this kind of information, like, I just never
thought I. I never imagined this would be my life
(58:25):
or that I would be sitting here talking to you
about love and consciousness, light and all of
these things. It's just, it's really profound. We
live in a really awesome time.
Meredith Oke (58:38):
Yeah, I totally agree. I sometimes, and I was
like working on that presentation and I'm like
making notes about astrology and frequency. I was
at a co working space and the woman next to me, I
saw her glance down at my notes and I was like,
yeah, this is what I'm doing for my job. It's
(59:00):
pretty incredible. And then we have these
platforms to share it. Yeah, no, we. I don't know
what you know. I don't want to use terms that
will activate people in one way or the other, but
however we all ended up here at the same time in
this moment of time is, as you said, deeply
(59:24):
profound.
Kelly Erickson (59:25):
Yes. There are no coincidences. I don't believe
so.
Meredith Oke (59:30):
Yeah.
Kelly Erickson (59:31):
Well, thank you so much, Meredith. I really
appreciate it.
Meredith Oke (59:35):
Thank you for being here, Kelly. This was
wonderful and we will be doing it again.
Kelly Erickson (59:39):
Okay, sounds great.
Meredith Oke (59:42):
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