The Spirituality Expert: Recall Memories From Your Future To Discover Your Purpose | E41

A former construction company owner turned coach, Mark Scherer, shares his journey of self-discovery and transformation. Mark discusses the pivotal moments that led him to shift careers and how he helps others unlock their potential through consciousness and self-awareness.

Mark delves into the fascinating concept of "recalling memories from your future," explaining how this innovative method can provide guidance and clarity in life. He emphasizes the importance of finding one's purpose and offers insights into how childhood experiences can shape our adult lives.

The conversation also touches on practical advice for parents on raising secure and imaginative children, overcoming fear and familiar zones, and the role of gratitude in manifesting a fulfilling life. Whether you're an entrepreneur feeling stuck, a parent seeking guidance, or someone looking to improve your self-awareness, this episode offers valuable lessons and inspiration.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Can remember your future. No. Yeah, exactly. So how do people get what their
purpose is? That's great.
What pissed you off most as a kid? It's going to be the opposite of that.
But when parents start telling their kids, no, you can't do this,
no, you can't do this, no, you can't do this, don't brush your teeth,
the pill begins to calcify when they start being told what to do and they start
to give up their own imagination.

(00:20):
And so the way for to raise a secure kid is.
Music.
My guest today is Mark Shera. Mark pivoted from being a construction company
owner to being a coach, helping people with methods such as using consciousness

(00:42):
to discover themselves.
Mark also told me he used to stutter. And I tell you, I couldn't imagine it if he hadn't told me.
He shared with me how he uses methods such as what he calls recalling memories from your future.
I'm a strong believer of investing in getting self-awareness because I believe
it's the blueprints, the foundation of all decisions, whether that be finances.

(01:05):
Whether in business or family and so on. I hope you learned from the conversation.
My name is Ola Williams and this is the Small Business Startup School.
Mark. Yeah. How are you? I'm good. And you?
I'm doing well. Thank you. Yeah. Good to have you here. I wanted to ask you,
you know, I was listening to another introduction about you and I listened to

(01:28):
the parts where it said you have construction company owner before,
you know, starting Encompass Life.
Would you like to talk about that? So what prompted you to pivot into Encompass
Life? Yeah, I had several companies.
I got into things to make money, and they weren't things that really turned

(01:50):
me on. I didn't really like what I was doing.
I did it, and sometimes I'd make money, sometimes I'd lose money,
but most of everything I was doing was about making a living rather than what
was my passion, what was my purpose, what was that about?
Out. I had a lot of trauma growing up as a kid.
And so I was just looking for anything I could do to just survive.

(02:12):
And when I had the construction company, sometimes we'd do well and sometimes
we'd do really, really crappy.
But I guess what I found out on having those things, if I didn't have passion
for something, when things were going crappy, I didn't want to do them.
So when I got into doing what I'm doing now, after I got out of that too,
I started doing things that just, just that either if it wasn't going good,

(02:33):
that I still love doing it so much that I could go through those types of downturns.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
When I was in a construction company, I was taking personal growth classes.
I was taking classes to better myself.
And that was my passion. I was using the money I made from that to be able to
go take classes. That's something I really loved doing. So I've been studying
in Constance for about 35 years.

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And all over, I've studied in Europe. I've studied throughout the U.S.
Took some really fringy stuff and took some mainstream classes as well.
But a lot of the classes I was taking, I was gone maybe 30 days at a time,
sometimes two or three, two or three, four months out of the year.
And the classes I was taking were really cool.
I had clients, I was starting to get clients coaching, even though I was running

(03:16):
other companies and starting to get coaching clients.
A lot of them were asking me, like, hey, where can we learn to do what you're doing?
And I said, well, you know, most people can't take off their new 30-day sabbaticals,
you know, out of their life. Most are really, you know, really committed.
So when I started Encompass Life about six years ago, my goal was to be able
to do, to work with people in a way that they could get the tools.

(03:36):
So I've gotten over 35 years online in the comfort of their own home instead
of being able to go three or four months out of the year and study for as long
as I did to be able to get these tools set.
Yeah. Some people find it very difficult to, you know, change direction.
And part of that is the fear of the unknown, like security.
So what role did that play for you? I guess my question is sometimes people

(04:00):
are thinking, oh, this is not fulfilling me. There must be something bigger.
This is not my purpose. But they're just scared to pivot because of,
at least, whatever they were doing was in their comfort zone.
So what made you, did the money help?
Did the fact that, oh, you had some money nested help, or that's not the story?

(04:22):
You know, the wild side is, Ola, I was worth multiple millions of dollars.
And I hated what I was doing, and I wanted to get out.
A friend of mine saw what was working for me. At my high point,
I had maybe 85, 90 employees and maybe another 50 contractors on contract.
I had a friend of my son embezzled $350,000 from me in 90 days.

(04:46):
And that set upon a reaction where I lost 95% of my wealth in 120 days.
And I kept saying, if y'all put another million in the bank,
I'll put another million in the bank. And I'll be able to, you know,
I'd have a bigger chunk of money to be able to go into coaching and be able
to, to in case it didn't work out, I'd have a nice best day.
So I went into coaching when it was like, I went, it was the first time I committed

(05:09):
to something at that level and went all in.
I said, I'm going to do this no matter what. And coming from what I came through
made me a way better coach than if I would have had everything, all my ducks in a row.
And being able to do it from that. But I came from the bottom up,
and I want myself back through this.
I had clients who were asking, like, you know, how do we, oh, I don't remember.

(05:30):
You said something that was, that gets most people snookered.
People talk about being in their comfort zone, and I found out that's a big misnomer.
Most people, they use the word comfort
zone, but when people use the word comfort, it puts people to sleep.
Most people really, it is in their familiar zone. And most people are really
familiar with being miserable, but when they use comfort, they go to sleep and

(05:53):
they don't believe there's anything else but that.
And they think, well, if this is comfort, what the hell am I going to get out
of this? If I get out of this, what else is there because I'm miserable where I am?
So they got to get really clear about where you are.
And I began to realize that all the words that most people were using weren't even true.
So I said, you know what, my comfort zone was being familiar with something

(06:14):
that made me money, but I was miserable in it. Most people have that same thing.
You got to get real, man, and feel really, oh, my gosh, I'm familiar with being miserable in my life.
Yes, you are. You're selling your soul for a little bit of security and walking
around dead or finding a way to medicate yourself, which I did that too.
Yeah, like, well, let's go get a deal, go party. Don't get a deal,

(06:36):
go party. What a way to live life.
Yeah, and I guess after doing it for a while, you just feel,
oh, I can continue this way. For
young people, do you think that's more difficult to make that decision?
For younger people, maybe, and I mean people maybe in their 20s or 30s,
do you think it's difficult to change from wherever they are,

(06:57):
even if they, what we call the familiars, even if they're not happy? Yeah.
Do you think it's more difficult? And what can help them to really pivot into
something bigger than them, more in line with the population?
Going through the education system we have here in the U.S.,
it's not to make people smart.
You know, it's a way to dumb people down, really. And if they teach people...

(07:20):
What to think, but they don't teach people how to think. When you do that,
it takes away a person's discernment.
They become a slave for a paycheck.
It takes away their creativity and intuition, and they just start repeating
whatever was told to them.
And for somebody to really become successful and really become,
to really be happy with their life, I saw, I'm back up, I saw a video,

(07:44):
and it said the greatest feelings we can have as humans on a scale of one to
10. They had sex was an eight.
Psychedelics was a nine. That's why people get so lost in all the sex and psychedelic stuff.
They said the only thing that was a 10 out of 10 was a conscious use of our co-creative gift.
In other words, actually going for life and living it fully.

(08:05):
A lot of what we do here is based on scriptures, not religion, but scriptures.
And Christ said, I came for you to have life and have it abundant.
So the only thing that can really have people be self-fulfilled is that it's
living in that abundant way of life and really understanding how life works
and how everything out here is a mirror of what's going on inside.
You know, whenever I had the embezzlement, I mean, I was praying to get out of the company.

(08:29):
I hated it. And I got what I asked for. You know, knowing what I know now,
I would have asked for a little bit more detailed way of getting out,
but I got exactly what I asked for.
But I did it unconsciously. I did it from a place of hate rather than from a
place of love. I hated what I was doing and I wanted out.
Rather than what's the most loving way for me to exit this company.

(08:53):
I was asking stupid questions and I got stupid answers.
So what's a lovely way for people to exit company? Well, it depends on what
you're choosing to do, you know?
I mean, it's all counterweight. Exits, you'll find, if you find your purpose,
It doesn't matter what you're doing because your purpose is bigger than what you're doing.
In other words, somebody's purpose could be, I awaken enthusiasm in all my contact,

(09:17):
everyone I meet, right? That could be their purpose in life.
And if they're doing that, they could be working at a McDonald's.
It'll be the best at a McDonald's in the city, you know?
Like everybody goes, something's different at this McDonald's because there's
somebody in there who's really, really lit up.
And they'd move into management or whatever, but their purpose is so much bigger
than what we're doing. Most people don't even understand what their purpose is. Exactly.

(09:38):
So how do people get to what their purpose is? Ah, that's great.
What pissed you off most as a kid? It's going to be the opposite of that.
They can find somebody's purpose in a couple of minutes.
Somebody had a really tough childhood with a lot of conflict.
Then I know that person's here to bring peace to the planet,
bring peace to relationships, bring peace to family.
Whatever was their biggest pain as a child turns into their purpose as an adult.

(10:01):
And that always works without any... Always, always.
Mine, I couldn't say the word love. I was raised in a really tough childhood.
We couldn't say the word hate as a kid. If we say the word hate,
we'd get in trouble for that, get hit for it. Does that mean there wasn't any hate in our childhood?
No, there was a lot of it. We didn't use the word though, you know?
I couldn't say the word love and I couldn't speak in front of people.

(10:23):
Terrified to speak in front of people. And so what am I doing that's really
had me come alive? Well, I'm here to get in front of people and speak about
the power of love. That's where I came alive.
Before that, I was terrified what other people thought, a lot worried about
how to do things. And now it's just, I just follow that and everything works out.
How about I've met somebody before and the person said, and you know,
I can't remember much about what happened during my childhood.

(10:47):
How about people like that? How do they find their purpose? Yep.
So if somebody has, I can't remember, it means they have some really emotional
things that they don't want to touch. Feelings are the gateways of memories.
Feelings access memories. If I was to ask you about, to give me an example of
a really beautiful romantic encounter, right, or maybe a really crappy,

(11:07):
you could go into the feelings of it and remember the details of it very, very easily.
But when somebody can't remember the things of their childhood,
they have some trauma that occurred where they couldn't deal with it,
and they didn't want to feel it. They hated feeling it.
So when they hated feeling it, they blocked it out.
I'll share with you a little bit that we're doing things really differently here. Okay.

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Feelings give us access to memories. So when we can produce a new feeling, we get a new memory.
And what I mean by new memory, I mean it's brand new. You can't fight it in your past.
So if it's a brand new feeling, accessing a brand new memory,
guess where the memory comes from?
Where? Your future. Yeah. You can remember your future. How? Yeah, exactly.

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One of our classes is called From How to Wow. That's interesting.
Yeah, it is. I mean, it's good for... When it first happened for me,
there was, excuse me, maybe 12 years ago, and I was doing this exercise in front
of a group of people, and I was talking about how everybody gets a calling or something.

(12:11):
And when I said it, all of a sudden, I got a memory from my future,
and it was like 40 hours worth of Netflix got downloaded to me in a couple of seconds. Wow.
And it was so intense. I mean, I didn't see it all, but I saw glimpses of it.
And it was the emotions of

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it came in so when it when it hit i got maybe
had maybe 30 or 40 people in the room i just started crying and
people were like are you okay and not like a pretty cry i mean one of those
really slobbering embarrassing cries kind of deal and the more the more i got
embarrassed about the more i cried you know the more intense it got because
you know that's how it works right with and but i could see like what my financial

(12:53):
life was life what my relationships were like.
I could pull a tab and see all these memories.
And everything I saw was coming true. I already started 10 years ago.
I could see it, and then I had a little bit of a type A type of a personality.
You know, I try to force it, things that get done. Yeah. Let me tell you, that sucks.
And I could see a relationship, and why did that person be in the way that I see them in the movie?

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They're not playing, they're not doing what I see. What the hell is wrong with
them? I thought it was all about them.
I missed it for, it took me a while to figure it out. What I had to do was I
had to ask myself, what characteristics do I have? Who am I?
And I had, I got the opportunity to become that character. And I found out whatever,
to have the life I love, I had to find out what I hated about myself.

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That's also limiting me the most. And also I'm defending the most.
Transform that into what I love and become that new character.
And that's when things started to really flow. So from working with people,
is it everybody that is usually able to tap into memories of their future? Yes, ma'am. Wow.
Is that what happens? So sometimes, and it happens like in seconds or sometimes

(14:05):
something happens and I feel like I've experienced that before.
Like in deja vu. Is that it? Is that me remembering things from the future?
Can be. If it's a brand new feeling, you're going to brand new access.
This and here's we lead these online classes where we'll have somebody go into
this exercise where they're getting a memory.

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And a lot of times, everyone on the call, I'll have them see.
Sometimes the person doing it is the last person to see it.
Some of the new members will come in, and I'll ask everybody independently,
text me what you're seeing.
And they will all message me, no communication between them, the exact same thing.

(14:48):
So 15 people are seeing the exact same movie. So what's the chances of that? That's powerful.
Wow. So if I went on your website, how do I access this course?
The courses that start all this is either the class called The Basics.
That's an online class. It's two two-hour calls per week for a month,

(15:09):
plus an individual coaching call.
And that's led by one of our senior coaches.
And then we have a class called From How to Wow.
That's a three-day intensive class I lead in person. We have it coming up in
Dallas, Jacksonville, and I choose to know where else we travel to do those
classes. Do you ever come to Canada?

(15:31):
I'll come to Canada. Give me some people, I'll be happy to come to Canada.
We're going to Costa Rica, the lead class is there. We got an invite to go to the Netherlands.
So yeah, I'm happy to do that. Okay.
Well, I'm so very interested in that. I think a lot of things that happen,
you know, kind of everything, it's linked to consciousness, being in the moment.

(15:54):
I feel like if we get that part right, we get even every other part,
like family, business, you know, we get it right.
So I feel like that's like really important.
So, yeah, most people, they look to produce results in their life,
you know, and there's like make X amount of dollars and they go produce that result.

(16:17):
And then they'll maybe, you know, maybe get a horse car. Oh,
the sports car is going to be it.
They go get the sports car. Well, that's not it. And what I found out,
most people are manifesting what I call what most people are doing is conjuring something.
They're putting a result out and they're getting the result.
So, but that's, it's based on, it's based on what they want or what they think

(16:37):
they want. You know, it's a mental deal.
And the word want means a desire without ever having. In scripture,
it says, the Lord is my shepherd, I shall not.
And so when somebody's manifesting from a place of want, want has a,
like anger and frustration tied into it.
So they're manifesting through that layer of frustration.
So when the manifestation shows up, they're still frustrated with their manifestation.

(16:58):
We do here, we change the chemistry first, then they see a vision and then they
become that character and it's a different level of fulfillment.
It's from the inner out rather than from the outer in. Right. That is so powerful.
So let's talk about glass ceiling. Oh, yeah. I have even faced glass ceiling
myself in my past work life where I couldn't just move forward.

(17:22):
I didn't know what was preventing the promotion from coming,
but it wasn't forthcoming.
With a bit of hindsight, I can almost say it was when I had options that I got
out of that glass ceiling.
So I had some other options. I could go somewhere else.
I felt like I could do some other things. I wasn't stuck in that organization.

(17:47):
Then suddenly the promotion I was even looking forward to came forth,
but I didn't want it anymore because I had other options at that time.
So, and I stayed in, and why it interests me is I know a lot of people struggle
with that as well, because I stayed in that level of not being able to move

(18:07):
forward and being frustrated for years.
So that's why I wanted to talk about that. But for somebody listening or watching
that is in that same situation, feeling stuck, what can help right now?
Yeah. So when somebody is at a state of stuckness, give you an example from

(18:29):
a couple of different clients.
One client was an attorney. I met her.
I was going to do a yoga class.
She was walking in. I said, hey, how are you doing today? And she just started crying.
She said, I don't even know why I'm crying. That's why I do yoga.
I said, I'm a coach. This kind of happens frequently around me. I was here with my card.
So we talked and she was, hey, my business will get to a certain level and it'll blow up.

(18:51):
My relationship gets to a certain level and they blow up. She said,
I'm really looking to, you know, like how I get out of this pattern.
She said, I've been in this pattern for 30 years or something.
So we started talking and she had had, she had been sexually assaulted as a young teenager.
You know, sometimes you got to ask, I had to ask really weird questions.
I said, but I said, and the sexual assault, did your body begin to respond to

(19:11):
the assault as, as fight, you know, respond pleasurably and assault?
She goes, yes, yes, it is. She goes, she goes, and she goes,
I feel really guilty about feeling it.
So anytime that she would get
her life would turn good, guilt would fill up and she would blow it up.
There's always a key factor that's going to the, that produces that, that glass ceiling.

(19:33):
I worked with somebody who they had become very successful with their company,
had reached a certain level of success, and they've been stuck there for a number of years.
They built their success based on, I'm going to prove to my dad I can do it.
They based their success in business on anger and resentment,

(19:53):
which people can become very successful with that up to a point,
and then they're going to hit the glass ceiling.
So we did a couple of sessions, went through that, and the company went from,
the company grew 10x in a year.
And now it's going up, they're probably hitting 30x in three years.
So almost a billion dollar company in three years from $30 million.

(20:14):
That's crazy growth. And they had health issues also that they were on thyroid
meds and they reduced their meds by 50% after the first session.
So, it's just recently, thyroid is about anger, suppress that holy anger in.
That's what people have going on with thyroid issues.
It was the same thing that was affecting their thyroid that was also affecting their business.

(20:35):
So, are you saying that when I was feeling stuck, when I couldn't move forward
in that organization, there were some anger issues that was preventing me from
moving forward? Not much.
Anger. Something. A lot of people say, I found a lot of people are afraid of
failure, but a lot of people have a fear of success.

(20:56):
So when somebody is feeling resentment and anger, so does that mean that people
in the organization that will probably impact the person from moving forward,
are they now feeling that anger? Yes, ma'am.
Yeah, it's two things can occupy the same place at the same time.
So if somebody's holding on to anger, that anger is affecting their manifestations,

(21:17):
whether the person acknowledges it's in there or not, right?
It's just like how do I explain things?
People think they can compartmentalize their feelings or maybe that they got
through them or they made it okay or something.
The way most people make things okay, it's like if you had a punch bowl with
some turds floating around in it, and you take a piece of cheesecloth and you
strain it, and you leave that cheesecloth and the turds still in your punch

(21:39):
bowl, and you think you got a clean punch.
That's how most people are with their emotions.
They hold it in, they put it in, but it's affecting their life everywhere.
It's affecting their relationships, it's affecting their business dealings,
it's just affecting everything. thing until that person can actually transform that.
You know, not release it or let it go or any of that other stuff.

(21:59):
It's got to have a transformational process to it. When we talk about it here,
we don't have a person that has to get a PhD in anger.
In other words, find out exactly what it does, what it's cost them,
how it sticks into their life, how it can take them over.
You know, when somebody's really changing their lives, the most important time
that you're actually changing your life is imagine yourself at 100 times the greatest success.

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And if you're at a when you're at a hundred times greater success imagine how
you handle you know it's something that would normally trigger you imagine you
have a hundred times more money if a bill triggers you if you have a hundred
times more money in the bank what happens if the bill shows up I just pay it yeah it's okay.
You've got to become that character and the most important time for you for

(22:43):
you to visualize and become that character is in a moment of adversity right
Because if that adversity cooks you again, whatever is still inside there is what's manifesting.
So that's what I found is the most important time to be able to address these things.
How about for somebody that owns a business and is feeling stuck?
So in this instance, the person is, they can do whatever they want to do because

(23:08):
it's their business, but they're still stuck.
So as I said, it's going to revert back to love. What do you love doing?
Is the business what you really love? is it's if here
there's things i really love doing and there's things i don't
when i first started up you know i had lost a
whole bunch of money so i was like i gotta do it all myself gotta do it all

(23:29):
myself gotta do it all myself i can't afford this again to get people when things
are falling through the cracks and i remember i was coaching one coaching a
client they said man you need to get a personal assistant so i see you all right
i can't afford a personal assistant right now Now I'm blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. So you just get a personal assistant.
And I was like, and I could hear myself saying I can't and I don't,
and I don't, you know, I don't have the money.

(23:50):
So I could hear all the not things, all the nots. If you're saying a bunch of
nots, there's a direct correlation between the word not and anxiety.
So you got to say what you actually choose. So I remember sitting there and
going, there's those sneaky little nots again.
I gave myself the feeling of having my perfect personal assistant.
You know, like, you know, not trying to figure out how to get it or anything,
but my perfect assistant. I just put my feet up on my desk, wrote down some

(24:15):
of the skill sets that this person has.
My next coaching call was an hour and a half after I got off the call to the
other one, working with this lady.
And we got about halfway through the call. She goes, you know what?
She goes, I have a feeling that you could use a personal assistant.
I'm just sitting there going, come on now. She goes, you know what I used to
do with my previous wife?

(24:36):
I said, no. though, she goes, I was an executive assistant for high-level Google management.
She goes, my salary was $130 an hour working for Google.
I was like, oh, I can't afford that. I didn't even say the words.
She goes, you don't have to pay me that much. She goes, I'd like to do part
of this on hourly pay and then part of it on trade with you.

(24:59):
And I'm just sitting there going.
And you know which, the money she asked for $30 an hour, that was exactly what I had written down.
So here I'm getting $130 an hour personal assistant for 30 bucks an hour.
This lady typed at like 110 words an hour while having a conversation with me. But that's my question.

(25:20):
And she took on everything I had, plus about six major tasks I thought I'd have
to hire somebody else to do. Is she still with you now?
No, she's taking our classes and becoming a coach with us.
And she has gone on to thrive in our life as well. She came in perfect, perfect timing with us.
I mean, so all those things that you're doing, if you're a business owner,

(25:45):
you've got things that you don't like doing and that you know somebody else
could get them off of you.
That you can have fun with, find a way to do that. It takes a little bit of
faith, takes a little bit of faith, takes a little bit of being able to manage
your thoughts and stuff and just, you know, jump in and do it. Watch what happens.
Allow life to ride magic for you.
Interesting. Some people don't have faith.

(26:09):
Yep. Some people have faith but terrified of taking action.
Faith without action is death, That's a faith with action is life eternal of
whatever that project is you're doing.
If you are learning from this episode, I am very glad and I have a favor to
ask from you. Could you like the episode?

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Subscribe to the channel and share with others as well.
These actions from you will be helpful to continue to bring the show to you
and to others that may benefit from it.
Thanks very much. You know what, Mark? I think it's those, what are those things
that can help in taking action?

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I think that's where the thing is. I believe in belief. That makes sense.
I believe everybody is looking for something to believe or already has something to believe.
I believe in the power of living, whatever that is, whatever it is for you.
But you have to believe in something. There's something greater that is pulling

(27:10):
us, that we want to believe in now. Yeah.
That action that you talked about, I think that is the thing that pulls people back.
How do you take action when you feel like a failure?
What's the little steps that you can take that could even propel you forward?

(27:33):
Yeah, a couple of different ways. One, you're using the word believe differently
than the way I use the word believe. Most people, when they talk about belief,
they think it's a set of thoughts.
The word believe actually means to be alive in.
So in other words, if you believe in the success of your business,
you be alive in the success of your business, not stuck up in your head in a set of thoughts.

(27:54):
And remember, I was talking about how you can go to the future and get a memory, right? Yeah.
And then from the future, you
ask yourself the question, what steps did I take to start this process?
And you'll get them information. So instead of trying to figure out what to
do, you'll remember what you did. So powerful.
And when somebody can start to remember what they did and take those initial

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steps and notice how those initial steps you remembered of what you did,
even though you have yet to take them, how they begin to have a domino effect
and everything begins to happen for you.
What if you don't like what steps you took in the future?
What if I can remember the future now and I don't like what I see?
Interesting. When I first started doing this too, I was, I remember doing, starting to do it.

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I go, what if, what if I do all this stuff and I still don't like it?
I mean, I didn't know whether I was going to like it or not, right?
But I could, a little voice in my head, well, what if you do all this?
What if you don't like it? Why don't you do that? What if you don't like it?
I could hear a little voice.
Five of these children just shut the F up. The voice, that little limiting voice
is what's trying to keep you out of it.
Everything that's happened has been even grander than what I thought was possible.

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I've been doing a version of this for 16 years, and it keeps getting grander
and grander. All of our students are reporting the same thing.
Somehow or another, whatever I was able to see, and then when it actually manifests,
it shows up in the 3D world.
Somehow or another, it gets even greater levels of upgrades than what I was
able to see from where I saw it. So once you start doing a little bit of it,

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it starts to like, oh, man, this is kind of cool.
This is kind of fun. And there may be some really, a lot of people go,
oh, man, to make all these changes is really hard.
And then they make the change. I go, hey, would you like to go back to where you were 30 seconds ago?
Oh, hell no. Why not? That was hard. That's that liar stuff that's inside people's
head. Oh, man, dude, that's going to be really hard. It's going to be really tough.
I go, nope, staying where you are is what's really tough and hard.

(29:53):
That's the hard life. life, trying to stay stationary, fun.
I'm doing things now that I, you know, 20 years ago, somebody,
Hey, Mark, you're gonna be getting in front of groups of people and speaking
in front of audiences, I would've said, you're a nutso, man,
you crazy, you cray cray, man, and talking in front of people.
So, uh, you got a great, you got a great smile by the way. Oh, well, thank, thank you.

(30:13):
Oh, thank you much. So I want us to really lean into this glass ceiling of a thing.
So if somebody was, and I think all that information about having memories from
the future, I think that is so powerful.
And I'm going to explore that with you. I can tell you right now.

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Now, Swoop, is there a role for if somebody was an employee in an organization
and they are feeling stuck and they're listening to this and they are saying,
okay, they're going to take action.
They're going to lean into all these wonderful things that we have been discussing.
Is there a role for the leaders in that organization that they are working hard?

(30:59):
For their employees and for our employees, too, to begin to understand how this
works, because most people compete on how much pain they can take and how many
complaints they have in their life.
I remember leading a class probably 15 years ago, and I asked people,
I said, what don't you like about, what do you don't like in your lives? Oh, my God, Ola.

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People couldn't wait to talk. I don't like when people pull out in front of
me. I don't like when my son does this. I don't like when my husband does this.
I said, just give me three things. No one wanted to stop at three.
There was so much passion around what they hated. It was hilarious.
We got done. Everybody got done doing it. People were still reading their hand.
I got some more stuff to complain about.

(31:45):
I'm so much passionate about it. About an hour later, I said,
got another question for you. Tell me what you love about life.
You know what? I could have dropped a pen in the room. No one wanted to talk.
So we've been conditioned to think that life is painful.
There's some type of a badge of honor to be able to live with all this pain,
the suffering. And people compete on it, how much they can take.
What we're doing, there's a different way of living life.

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It's about how much love and how much enthusiasm can you have for life.
That's a different conversation, it's a different viewpoint,
and it will access different ways of operating very, very quickly.
When somebody's in a complaint mode, their creativity is shut off,
intuition is shut off, making life wrong, and all that stuff is shut off.
That's all they can see and hear is complaints.
You can always see and hear what you feel. So you change your feelings,

(32:31):
and all of a sudden you're going to start to see life in a brand new way.
Is that linked to gratitude?
I'm glad you brought that up. When I was a kid, I remember, I was in Catholic
school, and I remember reading, I read the Bible so I could win arguments against
my parents, because they would say something that was in the Bible,
and I'd go, no, that's not, you know, it's like.
But anyway, I remember I read in school, we had a religion class.

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It said, Christ gave thanks for the miracles he had not yet performed,
for he knew they would be there.
And I remember reading that piece, and I was like, man, that's really interesting.
Can we talk about that? No, we don't talk about that. Why can't you talk about
it? Well, you can't ask that question. Why can't you ask that question?
You can't ask that one either.
You just got to believe what we tell you, not discuss anything.
I was like, man, there's juice in that statement.

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Christ gave thanks for the miracles he had not yet performed,
for he knew they would be there.
And I didn't get it for decades until I started doing it this way,
until that thing hit, whatever, 10 or 12, 15 years ago.
And I went, oh my God, that's what he was talking about.
So you get into a place of gratitude before you can even see the miracle,

(33:36):
before you can even see it.
Don't try to conjure something and then be grateful for it.
Get into a feeling of gratitude to access what you're going to be grateful.
Way different way of doing it. Feelings first.
I'm so grateful for my life. Don't even try to get what you're grateful for
until the feeling really lives in you. Then start to see it.

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Does talking about it help? Saying it helps, like I am grateful for or I feel
grateful for, does it help?
Yeah. I mean, whatever you feel grateful for too, but imagine if you're going
to take your gratitude and raise it, say, maybe 10 times or 100 times, right?
100 times more gratitude than you've felt for anything in your life so far.
Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. That's going to be a little stretch for you, right? Yeah.

(34:23):
So you stretch yourself into that new level of gratitude, then see from there.
Yeah. So let's talk about gratitude and how that links to people manifesting what they want in life.
Right. Yeah. Most people aren't grateful for life. You know,
as we're sharing about the law of attraction and the gift of co-creation.

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So most people don't have, they may say, oh, I know about that.
I understand that. But they're not effective at using it.
So until somebody becomes really effective at using this wonderful gift,
they're not going to be very grateful.
One day I was sitting in my office and I had a brand new feeling come up.
This is a really different feeling. I really didn't understand what it was.

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So I asked this, what is this feeling?
And I heard the word reverence.
And that's the first time I had felt what reverence was about, about life. I said, wow.
I said, what is this? I was always contemplating about where things were going in my life.
And it was bigger than gratitude, different than gratitude. Man, what is this feeling?

(35:30):
And I heard the word reverence. I just started crying. It's the same reverence. Reverence.
Can you feel what's in that word? I feel like, so who comes to me?
That's who should I, yeah.
Gratitude, respect, all that in that word. I was like, wow, this is really different.
So most people, I'll give you an example.

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I've asked, I frequently ask people in classes, have you ever been somewhere
where life isn't? And you wouldn't believe how many people have to ponder that question.
And let me think about that. Well, I was in a desert one time.
So when you were in the desert, were you alive when you were in the desert?
Well, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh.
So I guess the desert still had life in it because I was in it. Well, yeah, I guess so.

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So most people believe, like they have to ponder that question.
I haven't been somewhere where life isn't.
So why am I asking that question? Because in Scripture, God is love,
life, truth, and life. So people believe they're separate from life.
Well, that's an impossibility. And they believe they have to do something good
enough to get back to life. We're going to talk about God here.
I believe they're separate from God. I'm willing to do something good enough

(36:40):
or right enough to get back to God.
When people are in that belief system, that's when all the pain and suffering exists.
They're making life wrong, and they're trying to look for something in their
outer world in order for them to feel happy.
But we've produced some really phenomenal results here.

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And the way we do it
is the person what's happening as a person is changing their
relationship to life capital in life not little squeaky
life when they change the relationship to
capital well life all areas of their life change simultaneously and exponentially
they may come to us with a relationship issue or health issue well they all

(37:21):
of a sudden they they begin to realize something new about life have a new insight
on life and when they do so they begin to trust life in a new way.
Their faith begins to grow.
And as their faith grows, their manifestations grow.
Boldness and velocity so rather than
working on a little myopic viewpoint of the result in

(37:44):
their life work us on you know we change the relationship of life and then everything
else changes different way of doing it absolutely you know i was sharing with
you how i went out of my way to buy gift for some of my family members and they
were like six or seven in number and And because there were that many,

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I bought, like, you know, shirts.
Dresses for the ladies, shirts for the men.
And it took me a lot of time to go through that because I didn't just go to
the mall to just pick up the items.
I went there and I, you know, to even purchase a dress, it took minutes and

(38:24):
minutes because I had to look at it. Oh, would this one fit this person?
I had to look at the personality of people. So my thoughts went into,
they were carefully selected gift.
So I spent a lot of time in the mall, about an hour or so, buying gift for like
six or seven people because I felt that was important, putting thoughts into it.

(38:45):
But when I sent the gift over, some people did not even say thank you.
I thought about that. I felt, why?
So let's talk about that. Why didn't this, why do you think they didn't say
thank you? And why did I, I guess it's obvious why that felt bad to me because
of the time I had spent at the mall.

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So I felt, oh, I could have used that time to do something else rather than
spending it on grateful people.
But why do you think they didn't say thank you? Yeah, it's not about them.
You could do, I used to say things and expect something back.
Let me give you an example. Apple, I used to say, I'm going to date somebody

(39:26):
and I would tell them I loved them and they wouldn't say anything back.
I was like, I'm telling you, I love you.
Why don't you say anything back? I'm like, what the hell? I knew they loved me.
And I was going, I was going to begin to realize me telling them I loved them

(39:47):
and them not telling me anything back had nothing to do with,
like, when I was doing it that way, I was doing like shopping list love or tit
for tat love where you're not doing that. So I'm not going to do this. You're not doing that.
So I'm not going to do this. You know, I began to realize, yeah,
I love telling this person.
Really love them and whether they told me they love me or not

(40:08):
it doesn't make any difference if i give somebody something i
do because i love doing that not because i expected
them to tell me thank you or whatever else if the person
can't say thank you that's their own filters that's their own voice is keeping
them saying thank you if you do if you give somebody if i tell somebody if i
say thank you to somebody the person that's receiving the blessing of thank

(40:29):
you is me the teller of the teller not necessarily the recipient if somebody
told me thank you or not whatever whatever,
doesn't matter to me, but somebody gives you something, you can say, thank you.
You're the one that's getting the blessing from saying thank you, right?
Whether it's the other person, whether the other person, you could tell the
other person, thank you, and they could they barely would hear it.
I know there's a, I wish we had a longer time, I could get into something with

(40:51):
you, but there's a, we filter information through our belief systems and our voices in our head.
Somebody can have a lot of negative self-talk. I'm not good enough,
I can't do anything right, whatever.
If they're running that in their head, you can give that person a compliment
or you can give that person something and they will just go,
okay, whatever, that's fine.
They can't receive it. The thing they want the most is to be able to receive

(41:14):
things, to be able to receive a compliment, but they can't do it because the
voice in their head won't even allow them to receive it.
It's interesting. We have a diagnostic tool that can show you all these things
and actually show you the filters of how somebody's talking to themselves on
filters, the filters of how they're filtering life.
A really unique tool. If I can tell, leading up to classes, I can tell by the

(41:38):
way people talk and respond to
my questions of what's going on in their filters, what filters they have.
And it's a way, you ever heard the eyes are the windows to the soul?
You ever heard that impression?
It's a way of reading eyes that's like Myers-Briggs testing or DISS testing on steroids.
Way more advanced than any other personality test.

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I don't know if I answered your question. But if I give somebody something, I may note that.
They just say, thank you. But would I like to have them on my team,
somebody who's like that, in my company? No.
Exactly. That's where I'm going. That's why I wanted to talk about it.

(42:19):
It's not like... So I feel...
People are missing out by not being grateful.
So I wondered about that. The person who, if you have somebody like that on
your team, go, hey, you realize I just did this, you said this,
all you do is call your attention to it.
Or, you know, what's going on with you?
The person's got to be coachable. Yeah, because at the end of the day, I agree with you.

(42:43):
It's their loss, right? It's the loss of the person that is not being grateful.
At the end of the day, when you don't say thank you or you're not feeling grateful,
it's you that you're losing, not the person that has extended action of benevolence to you.
It's you that you are not being grateful that are actually losing.

(43:06):
Like you just said, I wouldn't want to have such person on my team.
And in the example I gave, I'm not going to buy in for those people anymore.
I mean, we are all human beings. Yeah, yeah, cool.
I've just made my decision. I'm not excusing bad behavior, so I'm not going
to. So it's their loss, right? Healthy boundaries.
Exactly. Healthy boundaries, yeah. So, and I just wanted us to link that to,

(43:30):
you know, when you were sharing about when you ask people what is going on that
is good about the ally, and they couldn't even mention things,
but they could go on and on and on about things that are bad about their lives.
And I feel like it's very linked to the things that you have in your life that
you're not even grateful for because you can't see it.

(43:52):
You can't see it. Yeah. If somebody's walking around with a lot of anger and
resentment inside them, they can't see gratitude.
They can't see the blessing in life. They think everything in life is a burden.
Everything in life is a blessing. Everything is. Yeah.
And on the flip side, maybe they don't want it.
So at the end of the day, everybody is good. Maybe if you're listening to this

(44:15):
show, maybe you gave somebody something and they did not appreciate it. Maybe it's a good sign.
Maybe they don't want what you gave them. So that way you don't continue to do it.
And everybody is fine at the end of the day. In other words,
what decides you is their approval.
What decides you is trying to get their approval. I mean, give it to them,

(44:40):
and they don't like them. They don't acknowledge it. Cool.
I don't require their approval one way or the other. I just make it like, oh, well, gotcha.
Yeah, absolutely. Recently, I interviewed somebody for a position,
and the interview was going very well until it wasn't.
This person suddenly started talking about how they visited the organization

(45:02):
they were supposed to start working, and they were talking about all the bad
things they noticed when they visited.
And there and there, I made my decision not to hire them. This is a reminder
to know that negativity is not attractive and a reminder that see the cup half
filled up rather than half empty.

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You know, Mark, we were talking about bullying before we started recording,
and I wanted us to talk about that because I know it affects quite a number of people.
And I was sharing with you the other work I'm doing, the project I'm doing,
where we're looking at, I'm working with some psychologists to look at bullying
incidences, even in schools, with youth,

(45:48):
and how we can help. That's another project I'm doing.
But I wanted us to talk about bullying because I feel when we talk about consciousness,
being in the moment, I feel it's all linked to being self-aware.
So in the work that you do, how do you think we can help?

(46:09):
Or maybe a parent of a six-year-old or a seven-year-old is listening now or school-age children.
What are the things that they can do as parents, as guiders,
to help these little ones to be better prepared when they face bullying incidences
in schools or in playgrounds with their friends?

(46:31):
Yeah, they're going to be people who are going to push people around and all that stuff.
The person who's being bullied will go into the victim mentality.
You know, they get into that victim mentality.
I mean, when I was a kid, people, kids, I was a big kid and kids, kids still picked on me.
I would get pissed and I'd punch them and stuff, you know, and,

(46:54):
um, I thought everybody was out to hurt, you know, to hurt my family.
We're saying things that were hurtful to me when all the stuff that they were
telling me was, were the voices I really had going on inside my own head about
not being good enough, all that stuff.
And so they were just saying things that were, that were triggering those voices in my head.
So that's where the bullying, that's where the bullying patterns shows up.

(47:18):
Whenever, I remember I told you I had a tough time speaking in front of groups of people.
So whenever I take a few classes, one class in particular, the guy,
when I went for my stuttering and clear speech, the guy told me,
what are you doing now that you're, kind of healed your stuttering thing?
And I said, I'm leading my own classes. I go, you know, he'll say that again.

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I go like, oh, crap. So I started saying it again, started crying and everything.
It was so out of my box. I remember going to Houston, talking to a girlfriend.
I said, I'm going to go to Houston. I started leading classes.
I said, she says, not ready for this.
I said, you know, you've known me for 20 years. Like, you know,
you know, the trouble I've had to start speaking this way.

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And she said, no, I'm not going to tell her any of this stuff.
It'll run inside my head.
I said, you know, you know, this is, I mean, I can't believe this is my girlfriend.
And she's not supporting me in my new way of doing this. She goes,
you know, Houston's not ready for this. You got to tone it way down to come do this in Houston.
And she goes, you got to tone it down, right? And I recognized that the voices

(48:21):
she was coming out of her mouth was the same shit I was running in my own head.
What if he's not ready for this? What if he has all that voice of self-doubt?
And she was, you're on totally down, right? I went, no.
I went, oh, my God, who said that?
So I found my no to all that. And she was like, what?
What do you mean no? She said, what are you going to do? I said,

(48:43):
I'm going to turn it up. And I went, who the hell said that?
So those kids, they've given up, for them to be bullied, they've given up a
piece of their will or something.
We had a lady come to class, in fact, we had a bunch of people come to class
where their will is down so low that they were bullied as kids.
They were dating, you know, dating a man, dating people who were using them as a doormat.

(49:07):
And I remember asking, I said, is it okay if I poke you in the eye with a sharp stick?
And they would sit there, well, you know, no. No.
Instead of saying no, you're like really standing up to it.
Yeah. So the kids who are bullied, they have relinquished that will inside themselves
to such an extent that they're allowing themselves to say that in a victimhood conversation.

(49:32):
It's a dance. The bully and the victim have an interesting dance.
Victim and villain have an interesting dance. so until
one starts to step up and and just say
no to the bully and it'll go
away but they i mean it's gonna it's gonna take some
take some force so i hear you said will they have to have the where there's

(49:54):
a will there's a way how do they how do they develop the will we're talking
of six year old seven year old eight year old here how do they get the will well most people a lot
of people who have don't have the will their parents that give up the will they've
given up on life all that so they have to understand what life's about and have

(50:16):
a will to be able to live and go for their dreams most people have relinquished
their will so the lineage has been full of people who give up their dreams.
Most people said, man, if I didn't have all this fear, doubt,
and worry, I could do something with my life.
And most people believe fear, doubt, and worry and giving up their will is what's

(50:37):
keeping them from their dreams.
Which actually the truth is people gave up their dreams and all those things
rushed in to take the place of them.
So the person's got to reclaim their dreams and get back involved in what they're really about in life.
When somebody's on purpose, none of that shit bothers them. So maybe that's
where meditation and introspection comes in, even for youths,

(50:59):
for six-year-olds and all that.
Do you think if they are more self-aware, they will develop the confidence,
the will to do all these things, if they know who they are?
And so maybe for parents and for guidance, whatever they can do to help these
youths to develop more self-awareness. The parents have to do it for themselves.

(51:21):
Most parents don't have a clue how this stuff works either. They don't have
a clue how life works. They're just walking through life and being a victim
to their own paychecks, you know?
And the kids see it and they go, wow, mom and dad aren't happy either.
And most bullies were having a tough life at home. They could get at home and
they go bully, bully kids or whatever.
So, you know, there's a whole, there requires to be a whole paradigm shift occur on our planet.

(51:44):
It, where every child is consciously conceived, carried, birthed,
raised, and all this talk about even abortion or either born or not,
or pro-life or pro-abortion and all that stuff.
If you put out, if you can replace it with conscious conception,
then that whole argument goes away.

(52:05):
You got to find something that replaces both sides.
Absolutely. Being self-aware, being conscious, being in the moment.
And like I said, you know, when we were talking, when we started the conversation,
I feel like when we get that right, I feel like we get kind of every other thing.
It feels to me like a foundation, like get that consciousness right.

(52:29):
Get the relationship to life, understand how life works.
Yeah, absolutely. A lot of parents, they raise their kids by,
you know, go to bed, brush your teeth, go to bed, brush your teeth,
go to bed, brush your teeth, go to bed, brush your teeth, until they say old
crap again and again and again and again and again and again.
You know what that does? That turns them into a little mindless robot. Hmm.

(52:51):
Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, turns them into like a little slave.
Go do this, go do that, go do this. How many times do I have to tell you to
do the same thing again and again and again?
You think the parents like doing that? Hell no. No, you think the kids like hearing that? Hell no.
What else it does? You know the pineal gland? You ever heard of the pineal gland?
Are you familiar with the pineal gland?
The pineal gland produces the chemicals for imagination and enthusiasm.

(53:12):
The word enthusiasm comes from the Greek word entheospedia, with God.
The pineal gland on 99.9% of the population is calcified.
In other words, it works somewhat or completely or doesn't work at all.
And it produces, like I said, it produces the chemicals for imagination and
enthusiasm. is our connection to be able to see these movies that we've talked
about. The video game has to work.

(53:34):
But when parents start telling their kids, no, you can't do this,
no, you can't do this, no, you can't do this, don't brush your teeth,
the video begins to calcify when they start being told what to do and they start
to give up their own imagination.
So the way to raise a secure kid is, what do you do at night?
What's your bedtime routine? You ask them. And the kid goes,

(53:55):
well, my bedtime's at 8 o'clock. I like to take a shower and I put on my jammies.
I really love when mommy and daddy reads to me or something like that.
You know, so the kid is offering their own life.
When you can have a kid from early on offer their own life, they don't become
an attractant for the bully telling them what to do.
That is very, very good because that is showing the kids how to have their own willpower.

(54:24):
Now stay connected to God, stay connected to the source, stay connected to their
own imagination, see where they're headed.
Yes, ma'am. You know, we do this with all of our, with our classes and being
raised the way I was raised.
That's why I'm doing what I'm doing, because I had a lot of pain in my childhood.
So I turned all that into fuel for what I'm doing now.

(54:45):
Now, thank you, mom and dad, for raising me, because I'm really happy with my life now.
For the first 50 years of it, not so much, But now it's like,
oh, my God, they did perfect for me. Oh, my gosh.
To me, family is really, really important. That's what I really love about our
system here is what's changing in families.
You know, that's where the rubber really meets the road.

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What's going on with the kids? You know, what's going on with that?
So that's a really big deal of how I gauge the success of what we're doing here.
And, man, we got families with kids that are like, whoop, they're rocking and rolling now.
Amazing. amazing. Even when they started in their, when the parents started
doing stuff and the kids were maybe 10 or 12 years old and they're having a

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lot of, one lady who their kids had severe learning disabilities.
They said they'll never be able to hold out a job or take an ADD meds.
We're in special classes.
Couldn't make eye contact. And the parents were coming and doing classes and
their kids started to change.
Now their kids, you wouldn't even know anything's up with them.
They're excelling in life. They're all black belts in Taekwondo.

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They're all going to college, but Make a great grade.
I mean, but the parents change and the kids change right along with them. I agree. This extends.
It's a reflection of what the kids are. They're a reflection of,
you know, who they are seeing at home, who's parenting them,
who's guiding them. Absolutely.

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Listen, Mark, this has been a very enlightening session, conversation.
Conversation i've really really gotten some
new knowledge like i can have memories about my
future i'm going to explore that definitely give
me a call we'll i'll show you we'll play with you and show you how to do it
yeah i mean i love doing this yeah i i feel like like i can say it's enough

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like it's kind of like the foundation of our life having no you know having
that spirituality having Having that knowledge of,
I think, I feel that's powerful, you know, when you.
So, so it's so much easier to live life from your future in reverse.
Exactly. Because you'll be more sure you have confidence, you know. Yeah.

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Thank you very much. We have a tradition on the show where I ask our guests
what they would like to learn next.
So what would you like to learn next? What would I like to learn next?
I'm writing a couple of books I have a couple of books coming out so I would just like to be an author,
Remembering what it's like to be an author. I'm working, I got a couple of books

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coming out, one on body language and one on language.
It's this gift of co-creation and how it actually works.
That's what I'm looking forward to. What I'd like to learn besides that,
keep being married again. Getting married.
I've been single for a long time. I'm dating somebody I really love and appreciate.

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I learned a lot about law being with this person for real, it's been really different.
Well, that's very, very sweet.
So thank you for sharing that. You're welcome. Yeah.