August 22, 2024 • 46 mins
Welcome to the Weasley's Wizarding Twincast, where twin brothers embark on their first-ever read-through of the Harry Potter series, guided by their older sister! This episode dives into their thoughts on the Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone movie adaptation.
Join us as Dan and his girlfriend share their experiences watching the FIRST movie, comparing it to the book. They discuss the movie's fast pace, the differences in detail, and their favorite visual scenes. From the nostalgic imagery of Fluffy and the moving staircases to the thrilling troll encounter, they cover it all.
In this episode, you'll also hear their thoughts on how the movie caters to a younger audience with its humor and light-hearted moments. The discussion touches on character portrayals, with special mentions of Snape, Malfoy, and Professor McGonagall.
As the episode progresses, the twins speculate on future books and movies, revealing what they remember and what they look forward to discovering. Tune in for a fun and insightful recap that blends nostalgia with fresh perspectives!
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Music.
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Hello and welcome to the Weasley's Wizarding Twincast.
What's a twincast? It's twin brothers reading the Harry Potter series for the
very first time in parallel.
Unbelievably, they've made it almost a quarter century before even being spoiled on the first book.
Thanks to me, their persistent older sister and guide, they're setting off on
this journey to Hogwarts every week. Buckle up for this week's Weasley sibling recap.
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Boom! I love it!
Sounds so professional. Isn't it kind of cute and dorky? It is!
Yeah. But we're cute and dorky.
We can be. Mostly the latter.
Mostly the latter. We're lucky. Yeah. So I guess I can start talking about just whatever.
So since we last spoken, Dan and his lovely girlfriend have actually decided
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to go and watch the Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone movie.
Which was extremely fast-paced compared to the book.
It's almost like you feel like you gotta grab your seat you
know it's yeah i mean you
always hear now the movie's not as good blah blah
blah because there's just so much detail and whatnot left out but i i mean i
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guess that's how they make it not only captivating but also not suck up five
hours of your time like lord of the rings or something yeah so even though you're
like oh i wouldn't want it to suck up five hours it's still like pretty long
though like i think it's like a two plus
our movie which in today's standards i feel like
is a little long yeah actually that's a good point i
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think it's i think it's one of the better
i think it's known as one of the better adaptations actually
yeah so i mean
in the future if you think about it like the books just get longer
and the movie length stays roughly the same until the
seventh so okay this one
has is able to include more of the things that actually happen
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in the book but they give really nice cute visuals what
were some of your favorite new visuals yeah so
Bryn kind of asked me the same thing new visuals is kind of tough
just from everything in the childhood you know seeing pictures or or just the
movie in and of itself I might have mentioned it to you on the phone or something
but like I sort of remembered what Fluffy looked like I kind of remembered what
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I definitely remembered what what like Hagrid and the kids and the teachers
and stuff all looked like.
So, you know, she kind of asked me, well.
When you're reading you kind of have an imagination you're you know
was there anything that surprised you in the movie or was there anything kind of
new and uh I think really
it's sort of the ending that was kind of new and
you know I can't remember like I couldn't remember exactly how
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that all unfolded I had I had slight memory
of the chess the chess game at the end and stuff but
I don't remember like the vines and the spell that Hermione
used to get Ron out of that or I guess
they just relaxed but anyway so I there's
just a little bit of that kind of stuff toward the end that
I don't really remember like I even the mirror I mean
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that was kind of midway through I suppose yeah yeah I just can't like I didn't
remember that and I I think it just must be a difference like when you're a
kid you're looking for different detail or I don't know you're maybe not paying
attention to that much detail or something but yeah so that was fun so So as far as new stuff,
I don't know. It was not as much new.
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I'm looking forward to that in the coming books and movies, obviously.
But I don't think there was too, too, too much to talk on as far as what was visually new.
I did have some observation, though, that I felt like, and it might make sense
for the series, but I felt like it was kind of like sillier than I expected
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it to be from reading the books.
Like the movie was kind of, I don't know if they were aiming at captivating
a younger audience and trying to like bring them all along for the journey of
the, however many movies, eight is eight. Sure.
Movies. Yeah. So I don't know if it was their idea to like,
all right, well let's kind of start them young, get a huge audience where adults
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and kids alike can kind of,
reel them in but yeah i felt like
there's a lot of kind of silly stuff that you'd
see in like a disney movie or just kind of comments like one-off
comments from hagrid or you know kind of
when he in in detail when he would be like i shouldn't have said that you know
it's like well yeah man like yeah i felt like that was kind of framed for the
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kids you know for the the younger audience but yeah so i'm curious i bet it's
true but i i'm curious if things in the movie setting thing.
Might get a little bit more serious as the plot
develops yeah just i
can't imagine it wouldn't if you know the
kids in the book are growing up then kind of.
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The audience may be with them i don't know so that
was that was one thing i couldn't really remember of course because you
know i was one of the kids watching the movies yeah but yeah
a lot of detail not necessarily left out
but just like expedited yeah anywhere
from like the first 10 minutes where.
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The like i felt like in the book they went
into a lot more detail about the dudleys and kind of
just the conversations sorry thank you
yeah between like just small conversations
and whatnot they they they kind of
of rapid fired all the the harry
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hates his life at home sort of stuff yeah i
mean they made it pretty clear pretty quick so they didn't really
need the drone on about it was just one of
the the things i noticed magic hat
didn't sing the song i don't know
that's right yeah there's a lot kids don't sing or
do they do they sing like a hogwarts song nope nope
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oh yeah hoggy hoggy hogwarts yeah
that was not not in the movie so it's just
little stuff like that so i can see it now like when people
are like ah the movie's good but the book is better it's like
well i guess yeah i mean it kind of yeah gives you
gives you more of the setting and and the the aura
of what the the kids were sitting in for
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their first time so yeah what was your favorite
visual scene that made you feel you.
Know because some of the things they describe in the book you have to have a
pretty good imagination to spend the time to envision those things on your own
for me it's like the moving staircases yeah like in the book you're kind of
like oh sure they move haha that's funny but when you see them it's like such
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a cool magical thing yeah it's grand it's stunning.
Yeah it's wow and then i don't know just seeing like snape in the background
of a scene right I think the actor, which actually I think he passed away a couple months ago.
But yeah, he just did an incredible job of just kind of being mysterious throughout,
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even when it wasn't his scene. So it was kind of fun to see that stuff.
But one of the bigger visually stimulating moments was the troll, for sure.
Oh, yeah. I don't know. I feel like everyone kind of pictures a troll differently from the movie trolls.
Or I don't know. Yeah. It could be really, I don't know, there's a lot of.
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Discrepancy on what that could that scene could have looked like but it was
pretty sweet it was pretty sweet so and i don't really remember that one too
well from childhood either so that was fun.
Definitely remember the wand up the nose of course as
a kid you're gonna remember that one yeah with all the goo i think yeah that's
nasty both i think brought that up when we read it that part the book goes on
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this on the wand right what's funny is i still think like certain characters
I remember envisioning Fluffy as a fluffy dog.
And so I still sometimes think about the original Fluffy that I had pictured when I was a kid.
And the one in the movie is like a pit bull.
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Yeah, it's like three big pit bulls. White fluffy dog. Yeah.
So I think that was interesting. I remember for some reason I had pictured Hagrid.
This is just like old memories. I remember recapping this movie with friends.
You know because this is the only one i really read when people were
reading them and then it was the only movie that i watched like i
was in that i was part of it for like one
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book you know right i remember saying oh yeah i thought haggard was going to
be like tall and skinny and i don't know if i thought that because it's like
our dad is tall and skinny yeah maybe but yeah haggard i remember he's like
oh he's so much burlier but now when i go back and read those scenes it's like
that's definitely how he's described it was just like my child brain
miss yeah expecting things so right
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right yeah and then it's obviously super intriguing
to see like the last scene too right where where
he meets goldmore and yeah that i don't remember much of that like visually
so that's pretty freaky but that's probably why i don't remember it because
i was like a kid and just hiding behind my hands yeah it's definitely scary you know Yeah.
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That scene was pretty crazy.
I mean, they did a great job in the book of making it also pretty scary,
but it's just interesting to see it.
Because, yeah, that was just... I don't know what I imagined.
I think I imagined a face that was a little less like,
like sapped of of kind of human traits oh yeah like it was it was very in the
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movie it was very much like kind of like a gooey play-doh mold face and in the
book yeah like it was more like spooky.
Defined but anyway so yeah i mean that was super fun i'm obviously stoked to continue,
especially since i don't know how you want to split
this up but especially since first two chapters are
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a little bit of recap i mean everyone regardless of
if you know harry potter or not you kind of know dobby so
that was fun uh-huh to kind of re-meet him after 15 years or whatever yes so
yeah i'm excited there's a lot of content that is up ahead given that we're on
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book two so yeah so before we
move on i will have a couple more questions about your movie watching experience was
there anything that bummed you out like
you noticed it was missing and you were like oh like where'd that go do you
remember filming at all man i'm not sure i think i was just in i think i was
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just enjoying kind of the simplicity of things yeah i mean it was pretty
fun yeah i don't know i don't think there's anything crucial that that was missing.
Good that's good uh that i was
like looking forward to seeing necessarily because i don't know they hit the
big stuff in the movie i guess that's kind of the point yeah true so nothing
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and then at the top okay and then did you have a favorite actor or actress were
you like oh that's like exactly how i envisioned that character that person's
playing it super well Wow.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of mentioned that with Snape. He was, he's exceptionally convincing.
And they set him up in the book, likewise, to kind of be the problem, right?
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But that's just not it. I think, actually, I really do think Malfoy was a pretty good kid actor.
Like, to be that malicious and that, you know, kind of that much of a bully.
Like, they did a pretty dang good job with Mr.
Malfoy. so yeah kind of
like joffrey in game of thrones right you're like yeah yeah you
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hate this little like young boy exactly that's
a really good actor if i can hate to be fair i hated joffrey
much more than malfoy yes i
think that's just because of i don't know i don't
know i don't know yeah stay tuned you know
you never know exactly maybe you'll hate him
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more or maybe you'll hate another character yeah child maybe probably
yeah that's a good that's
a good call out i i want to personally call out professor mcgonagall i
think that that actress is spot on
i think she does a perfect job of being like you that
is the type of person you'd want to make proud i like that she's
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very scottish and yeah dern and
warm at the same time i think that's really sweet i guess
if there's something to be bummed out i the quidditch kind
of scene to get harry the nimbus 2000 right
they kind of just cut to the chase it was like they were outside learning leave
it mason they kind of skipped a little bit of the detail it was pretty much
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like up you know and then he was flying chasing malfoy so it's like it just
happened really fast and then in the book they go into a.
And wood are in the same room and they're like, Hey, this is the,
like, this is what happened. Now he's your seeker.
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And then they kind of go and get the Nimbus 2000, but it, in the movie is really
quick. It was like, he's chasing halfway.
She doesn't like, she's like, you're in trouble. And then just doesn't,
I think she brings him to the classroom that Woods in rather than like her office or whatever.
She's basically just like, Hey, he's your seeker now. And Woods like, cool.
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Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I think that scene where he's like catching the remember all too is also
quite embellished in the movie versus how it is in the book.
Cause like you're, like you're saying, I think there was more dialogue that
made it powerful versus the visual that made it powerful. Right.
Yeah i would agree with that i would agree with that but
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yeah one thing to point out is awesome too yeah one thing
to point out that i've heard on other podcasts is how well
i've noticed it too i guess i shouldn't just say i heard it but the
scene where harry defeats coral and voldemort
right at one point he like burns coral's
face yep and basically the implication
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is that coral dies eyes which i think we
don't get in the book i think they describe it more like he
burns him and he falls down and then harry like blacks
out right right like we don't have that clarity versus in
the movie they just went full on yeah like you you murdered this man like his
head is exploded that's a great point i did have that thought when i was watching
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it too i should have remembered that one yeah that was yeah that was definitely
different and there there is that That is the reason I was hiding behind my
hands as a kid, too. Yeah.
I mean, and then when taken that way, you're like, man, like,
when we jump into book two now and he's just having a regular summer,
you're like, that man needs therapy.
Like, he is traumatized from murdering someone by accident in self-defense.
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I know. Hold on. Mason's interrupting. This might be a thing. I might have to, like...
Cut this out from hey lay down
sorry that's what makes it organic stay yeah
that's you know i think that's probably on everyone's
mind when they go into book two if you if you're ready
unless you have some more questions about the movie yeah let's
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do it but i yeah so as far as book two
i think it's on everyone's mind when they start and you're
like really like this super powerful kid
wizard is back in this closet locked up
like i know he's got the threats of
using magic because the the dursleys have
no idea that that's not allowed they figure that out but
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but at first it's like
really like i know they were disconnected all
year but i don't know
it does appear thus far that harry's
more okay with it because he's just like itching to get back
to hogwarts he's like yeah this sucks but like i i
have more confidence in myself because i am
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a wizard you know yeah he yeah
he's definitely more confident about his wizardry he is to to just correct you
mildly he is in the bedroom now he's in the second bedroom that's right that's
right dudley's second bedroom yeah he's not in the closet he's outgrown the
closet he does have room for his owl even
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though Hedwig is not allowed to leave the cage, which is very sad.
And then he makes noise like any animal would if they were locked up for that long.
Yeah. Yeah. It's the classic, like when, you know, Mason's extra annoying and
it's like, well, we didn't walk
him today, so we can't really be mad that he's like acting out. Right.
Right. Yeah. So then we get a little of this scene. He's sad because he doesn't
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think he got any letters.
Yep. Over the summer. Right. Right.
Yeah, that would be pretty, pretty brutal if you had these great friendships.
And I mean it when I say great because they were sort of in life or death situations
at the end. Yeah, that's true.
It would feel a little bit like you were abandoned if you just went through
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this like moment where you literally sacrificed for each other.
Right. You didn't know what that meant at the time. However,
I was like, go home on the train and never speak to them again.
Yeah. However, I was, I mean, the kid's 12, so I don't know how an undeveloped
brain would think about things,
but if his prior experience at home was his uncle ruining and hiding and whatever,
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doing all these things to the letters that were for Harry.
If I were Harry, I would just make the assumption that he's still just doing that.
And he'd be like, can I have my letters? oh that's a good point
you know what i mean he's like yeah there's no way that
they're not actually writing to me can i yeah like
why are you hiding my letters but they
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don't really mention that at all like yeah that's
a great point that he's his brain automatically goes
to like my friends have left me and not to
like these people who are actively sabotaging my
life yeah it goes into
a detail too about like he gets sad just bringing up
the name of hermione or ron and you
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know it's it's sad but it's like dude somebody's
probably hiding these letters because you you went
through this already right but yeah didn't know it would be a little creepy
l it's a great point yeah i love the way he just did not that was the last thing
he expected to see i like that he briefly gets until like you said until they
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learn that he's not allowed to do magic at home he gets to like mess with.
The family a little bit i mean kind of by accident but then later when
dudley's bothering him in the yard he's just like he's ready
to take a bush yeah yeah burn the
shrub or whatever but yeah they even like magic is
the m word in their family now
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too yeah the m word you can't say the m word which hey if somebody slapped a
pig's tail on my butt i'd probably not want to use that word either yeah it'd
be a little triggering perhaps yeah you know you had to get a tail surgically
removed there's like a scientific essay written about that experience as well.
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It's like patient zero for this pigtail thing yeah
so yeah and the story their their whole chapter here
is pretty much like you said more exposition they're gonna do this kind of every
book where they act like as if you weren't just reading the first book and you
jumped right in so they give you a brief like Harry had just faced the darkest
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wizard of all time like based on their releases and stuff that makes total sense,
so I'm not yeah I'm not like upset
with it but I would just mention that there's not as much content yet,
but they did open the doors for it right I mean even just the cliffhanger to,
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well I mean the cliffhanger at the end of chapter 2 being you know you can't,
Use magic to get out of your bedroom.
And if you do, you're banned from Hogwarts. Like, already you're like,
okay, well, he's not going to be stuck for six more books.
Like, what's going to happen? And the rest of the story continues while he's stuck in his room. Yeah.
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And just because of the things we've covered on a previous episode about, like, what do you know?
Well, like, he gets back to Hogwarts. It's just a matter of how.
And honestly, I can't really remember.
Oh. So it'll be kind of fun. Yeah, that's going to be fun. Yeah.
So that'll be good. But yeah, then we meet Dobby and Dobby is like,
you jump past the entire storyline of the chapter.
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And then we meet Dobby. And then we meet Dobby. Right.
Because they're just, they're getting ready to cheese up this guy and make a big sale.
And Harry just, Harry and Dobby just,
Completely ruin it. Completely ruin it. With the pudding. Let's lift it up.
Yeah, that's right. I thought it was interesting. There's like an alarm for
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magic outside of Hogwarts or something.
Like the Ministry sent him a letter going, hey, we noticed.
Instantly. Instantly. Right, in the letter he already had in his hand from Dobby.
Yeah, you have me thinking about these letters. I'm like, they should,
like, Hogwarts should adopt whatever technology the ministry has for sending
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letters very quickly and directly because that letter made it to Harry immediately.
Right. Versus all the owl letters was like a lost cause.
Like, you spent hundreds of Canucks on owls, owl mail. Right.
Last summer and to no avail.
You end up having to send someone anyway. Yeah. But this really worked.
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Yep. So it kind of there's, you know, maybe something we'll learn later,
but kind of the power of the Ministry of Magic and like what they can kind of do magic.
I just sound there's my Midwest accent coming back for some reason.
I didn't even hear it because now I'm surrounded by it. Yeah, true. True.
So we get Dobby here. And what does Dobby explain to Harry?
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Dobby explains to Harry that he should not go back to Hogwarts.
Warts he would be in mortal danger that's
right he also slips up and
for that same reason mentions the
letters that he's been holding hostage because he
doesn't want harry to have any hope of going back good catch too for harry to
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be like wait a second what did you just say yeah how do you know anyone's been
writing to me right so yeah so there's some danger and he he said it wasn't
he didn't mention Voldemort well they mentioned him but he,
it wasn't that like he's just like it's not and
harry's like well does he have a brother and dobby's like no well okay
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so he's like at this point harry's going well
then i'm gonna go back like yeah i don't i don't know who else is my biggest
enemy if it's not voldemort right i think they made that pretty clear in the
first book that like hey this dude tried to kill you once tried to kill you
twice he is the only person who's ever tried to kill you in fact really so Yeah,
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most of us only have, you know, zero to one, I would say, people trying to kill us. Exactly.
So, yeah, that's a good point. So Harry's kind of like, I'm not into this.
Yeah, he's not convinced.
He's like, wait. I don't know what you could be talking about.
Do you have any ideas of what he's talking about? I forget what you know about
this book or think you know.
Yeah, we probably should have covered that before.
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I think we did. I think we would have covered it, like, in the first podcast.
So I know there's the snake. I don't remember how it gets there or what it represents.
I was after watching the movie, the first movie with Bryn.
I do recall the scene that he kills the snake.
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Unfortunately, the epic kind of ending.
I don't know if that's the end of the movie. I would assume so with like the
iconic scene of him stabbing it through the freaking jaw. Like I do remember that unfortunately.
However, I don't remember what gets
you there i remember he can talk to the snake because
he can talk to snakes because we learned that in the first book what
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else do i remember i feel like dobby like comes
through i don't i think it's in chamber of secrets but i
remember him like coming through and doing something unexpected because
you think he's just like a little house elf then he does something like he
has some i feel like he uses some spell at some point i i can't remember what
it was exactly i'm trying really hard but again i don't know if that's chamber
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of secrets or not i don't remember too much about what goes on at hogwarts prior to the snake scenes,
down below i want to say i remember someone being down there as well as harry
during those scenes but i can't remember who that is or what their significance is.
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Yeah just kind of i think we're gonna start getting that right
like the first movie i remembered a lot um obviously
not from the book but from the movie uh just because of me not reading at a
young age or ever sure yeah and i think we're gonna keep getting that so like
this one i i remember some stuff you know of course the ending unfortunately
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but but like Like that's pretty much it.
I'm like trying to be so careful because I'm like, but I'm trying to gauge.
It sounds like you're like nearly a hundred percent. Sure. That's the ending to this book.
I'm pretty dang sure. Like, I remember seeing that scene.
So it's a matter of when during the book. But I can't imagine that if there's
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a big danger at Hogwarts and he's not talking about the snake,
that would like he's definitely talking about the snake and then he kills the snake.
I just don't really remember anything about why or how or what.
So, no, it's OK. I just want to know if I should just like be like,
well, I don't know if that's good.
What's funny about this? You don't have to hide it at all. what's funny about
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the snake is that both you and David seem to have pretty vivid imagery of the snake.
But what I enjoyed when I was going back to edit David's like second and third
podcasts, he was pretty sure that happened in the very first book.
So I actually find it entertaining that as much as you guys were unspoiled on
the turban being Voldemort's head, but like the snake thing you got,
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like, like who, I don't know.
I just, I've seen, I remember seeing the sorcerer's stone like so many times.
Growing up that i think it's funny that you actually remember
the movie for book two better yeah i
mean that could literally be like i mean you studied brain development
and kids like that could be just one additional year it
helps the memory a little bit more or i don't
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know yeah that's i don't know why i really don't remember
enough about the the actual movie just
those scenes right so like yeah
and i think something about a creature being the scary villain
is like for kids especially spooky i think it might have just been a more traumatic
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scene for us to see when we were young is like yeah this giant snake yeah and
so so i don't know like i'm not gonna you know i'm i'm trying to be pretty transparent
with the podcast like i you know i absolutely
now i'm trying to wonder i just know
i'm really glad you're open about it because it helps me decide when
you and david can come together and so i'm still like as
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you guys reveal this stuff it's helping me piece the puzzle together when you
can start we can start doing podcasts all together do you remember what else
briefly take me through or as long as it takes like what else you think you
remember happening in the series that's now now you know okay we
already saw one book and then you pretty sure, you know, it happens in book two.
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So do you remember anything that you think happens in the later books? Yeah.
So I, yeah, I don't know how much I covered. I tried to cover all of it,
of course, in the first episode. I can cut it out too if I'm being repetitive.
I just need it. Yeah, that's fine.
So what I remember, yeah, yeah, a good reminder.
So I remember that guy that turns into a rat and his, he's like a little stout man.
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Don't remember what significance. I'm pretty sure he resides in like a tower.
I remember there's a phoenix at some point, Dumbledore's phoenix.
I don't know the significance of it i just remember like oh
shiny bird yeah you gotta have i i
think that's i want to say that's the same
scene as like dobby getting freed because i know that that was brought up in
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chapter two of this book was like only you can free me and then he was like
super happy that harry's like well i'm gonna try to free you like wait when
did he say that i don't know During the second chapter.
He said, you're the only one that can free me. Or am I the only one?
I forgot how the dialogue went.
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But it was like, Harry can free him. Harry asked him, why don't you leave or escape?
And he says, a house elf must be set free, sir. And the family will never set
Dobby free. He will serve the family until he dies.
Yeah, read a little more. I think it's after that. I am. Hold on.
And I thought I... Harry stared.
And I thought it... And I thought I had it bad staying here for another four
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weeks, he said. This makes the Dursleys sound almost human.
Can't anyone help you? Can't I?
Almost at once, Harry wished he hadn't spoken. Dobby dissolved in wails of gratitude.
Please, Harry whispered frantically. Please be quiet. If the Dursleys hear anything,
if they know you're here.
Harry Potter asked if he can help Dobby. Dobby has heard of your greatness,
sir, but of your goodness, Dobby never knew.
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Harry, who was feeling distinctly hot in the face, said, said whatever you've
heard about my greatness is a load of rubbish i'm not even top of my year at
hogwarts that's hermione she is so humble and then
which is what dobby says harry potter is humble and modest harry
potter speaks not of his triumph over he must not be named voldemort said harry
or probably not like that voldemort harry clapped his hands over his bat ears
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sorry i know a lot of people don't like it blah blah and then they kind of move
on dobby doesn't really say like Like, yeah, I want you to set me free.
He more is like taken aback by how Harry seems to care about him being set free.
Well, then maybe that's something I remember. But I, you know,
he did mention family and Harry is the only in his family.
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Like he's the only person left in the family. And it's not like the Dursleys get a house elf.
It's like, it's a Potter elf. Well, Dobby's not from the Potter family.
Oh, well, I thought that he says he, by the house. Oh yeah.
Sorry. Remind me, did you listen or read this? These two chapters you listened.
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I listened twice actually, because I'm trying to like during the first, no, I totally get it.
I think listening, you just sometimes like when
you only hear bits and pieces you put the sentence together and i just want to be clear let's
see he says let me just
pause while i look for this i mean i do like i do
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remember a scene where he's like dobby's a free elf
or whatever i don't know when that happens but
yeah i'm not saying that doesn't that's not a scene
but he okay dobby
had to punish himself sir said the elf who
had gone slightly cross-eyed dabby almost spoke ill of
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his family sir your family the wizard
family dabby serves sir dabby is a house elf bound
to serve one house and one family forever do they know you're here asked carrie
no harry curiously oh no sir no dabby will have to punish himself most grievously
for coming to see you sir dabby will have to shut his ears in the oven door
for this if they ever knew sir but won't they notice if If you shut your ears in the oven door,
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Dobby doubts it, sir. Dobby's always having to punish himself for something, sir.
He lets Dobby get on with it, sir. Sometimes they remind me to do extra punishments.
But why don't you leave? Escape. And then he asks.
So he's, I mean, the implication is that he works for another family that would
be pretty pissed to find out that he came to see Harry Potter.
Okay. Well, that's better. Yeah. I mean, in like the third chapter,
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I think there's a line where Harry is like wondering where Dobby came from.
So then it like reinforces that. that so you'll hear that okay but i
just want you to be like whoa yeah so he
is otherwise he would have probably been around harry okay
well cool yeah as far as the rest all right right i'm trying to remember i think
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it's probably in the same book that there's serious black i think is his name
and he like turns into like a werewolf i think that's the same book as the rat guy.
Again, I don't remember the significance, but there is conflict there that I can think on.
Okay. I just forget what goes on. I remember there's Dementors by a lake, by the woods.
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Dave called them... Oh, man. What did he call them in episode two or three?
Is there something similar character-wise in Lord of the Rings?
Yes. Ringwraiths. Yeah. He's like Ringwraith-looking dudes.
And that's hilarious and i i'm like
what's a ring right and then oh my gosh we'll
have to run it back with a podcast yeah you and lord of
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the rings that'd be hilarious but you're
sitting here with the correct terminology so yeah i think you and it's funny
because you and david must have been in the same room for a lot of these memories
but sure you seem to be more confident about like the vividness of it david's
more like yeah i have flashes of like ringwraith looking guys he's like.
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I know there's a big snake but he's not like
oh i can picture harry killing it like you're saying
i that memory came to me i didn't remember
that until like bren and i were watching the
first movie and then i was like he gets a
sword at some point and stabs that snake like that's totally
what i remember do i remember anything about
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the snake yeah i remember i'm
pretty sure i remember it like talking to him while he's
upstairs like i remember the snakes
down in like the sewers or something but he like hears voices
or something there's oh yeah there's like ghosts and
stuff and there's like is this where he meets jenny and
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she's like in the hospital i don't know
i'm just random things that i remember you're just pulling scenes that i'm like
are popping into my head as you mentioned them and i'm just like oh okay and
i think that's all chamber of secrets so i'm I'm wondering if you and me and
Dave actually had really similar beginnings to the series.
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Because I think Anna says she maintains that mom didn't read the book to me
and her as much as she read it.
I feel like she's told me she thinks mom read it to me and you and David at
the same time. I remember like.
Or maybe you said it. I think I remember.
Like her reading or or just the book being around with chamber of secrets more
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than sorcerer's stone i don't know if we liked it more or something but like she read it to you.
I don't remember her reading it to me but i
remember like oh you read it i think i know what the cover sort
of looks like okay because here's how
i read chamber of secrets is i borrowed it from teddy ortega
in elementary school yeah and i
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got halfway through and i remember he asked me if i was done yet
and i felt self-conscious you know because my intuition's always.
To feel self-conscious and i was like oh my god i haven't read it
fast enough but i didn't want to admit that so i just went oh yeah
yeah yeah i'll bring it back and like i brought it back to him and i was
only halfway done and so i just didn't know what happened in the rest
of the books so that's where i stopped reading and the movies i
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did remember movies one two and three or i remember them
like in decreasing amounts like i
was very confident about what happened in sorcerer's stone so i
did remember like the end and i remembered like the mirror and everything
okay then this movie i also
was like yeah like other than a few
details i was pretty much 100 on this movie the
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third movie started to like what you're describing when there
was like flashes like the ringwraiths for sure because it
was probably we probably all watched it together and we're scared is what probably
happened it could be honestly yeah i mean
like i'm just trying to be transparent the other ones i didn't
watch any of the other ones did you remember remember watching them either not until
after i had read the series so it was very fun to see to have
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all the surprises that are coming up in your life yeah no i'm excited and i
mean you know if this chapter book two is like just a bunch of oh i remember
it's like well well maybe then then we don't have the best content for this
book but you know rest assured.
The following one you know you gotta remember there's people who recap
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this book having already read it 17 times each
like that's true yeah so it's okay
if you just remember and we can just talk about like how i
mean in your case well i guess in those podcasts
they relate it to what happens in the future right it's kind of like going back
and looking for the foreshadowing and looking for like those
little scenes that kind of lead to something that you don't see
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again until book six or whatever and the
author does a really good job of planting those seeds which is that's kind
of fun to look for but yeah i mean you can just like know what happens it's
fine and i think i learned from david yeah i mean i'm the next
read we could do three instead of two chapters yeah
i would agree i mean also just because the first chapter
is kind of an intro slash like recap yeah i
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mean i'm always afraid to like start with too much i don't know why
i just yeah yeah that's fine anyway okay so
you don't think you remember anything from like book four or movie four four
what's three three is the prisoner of azkaban oh oh i thought that was like
four and then four is goblet goblet of fire does that ring any bells at all
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the name does but the content doesn't know you don't remember a goblet i don't
remember a goblet i i don't.
Maybe that's when we can bring you guys together unless that's where the phoenix
is and that's the fire, but what's funny is like, I'm, I'm holding out on like
maybe dumb reasons because I'm like little things.
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Okay. But this is a big thing. You remember that there's a guy who turns into a rat, right?
David, if David recalled it this way, he said, oh, I remember there's this guy
or maybe it's a rat and then he went on and described it and I love that.
He doesn't know that the guy is the rat.
And I think that's so important for him to, like, not know that.
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So that's one of the things that you guys can't, like, and maybe you could just
not tell him that. But I don't know.
I like that you would look at through the lens of, oh, okay.
Yeah, I think after book three, we can start to, like, combine.
Okay, cool. And you and I can take a little bit quicker pace than David and
I did on this since you have a pretty solid recollection of things.
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Yeah. yeah yeah i mean it i think it's
probably like but you don't seem to know where dobby's from right i
don't know where dobby's from or what day well you said
you assume the day i thought pretty hard about it i don't i i don't
think i'll have an oh yeah moment with that one you know
i'll probably have an oh yeah moment with a lot of stuff in chamber
of secrets if i already sort of know the plot well at
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least the ending okay but yeah i
don't know where dobby's from i don't i don't know how he gets back to hogwarts i
don't know the snake significance i just
know he like hears voices i'm pretty sure like snape catches him
like hearing voices or like can also hear
the voices or something but i i'm not positive there i'm just kind of right
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blabbing yeah okay i know yeah no that's good okay i think oh wait did you have
something else no not no i'm just i'm still just like trying to think as hard
as i can because i think that's worth because it's not worth like
pretending like i don't know there's a snake you know like that's not no that
would be awesome that's not truthful yeah and ultimately that's not what people
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would want to hear anyway so.
No yeah i mean every pretty much every podcast that has someone who hasn't read
it is like they are familiar with early stuff because it was just such a i mean
you know like when your friend goes to harry potter world and gets a wand that
like the wand chooses the wizard you know There's stuff that you just know is a thing. Yeah.
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Okay, so we get a little... Yeah, I like when Harry's like, does Voldemort have a brother?
Yeah. I just think that's funny. Yeah. So Harry's basically like,
Yeah, like, he catches Dobby stealing his letters. So now he's kind of mad at
Dobby. And he's like, I don't get what your warning is. Uh-huh.
Oh, I remember. Hold on. And then Dobby, like, he's trying to ask for the letters.
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Well, sorry. Harry's trying to ask for the letters from Dobby.
And that's when they break out into the kitchen.
Dobby goes first. I think Harry's chasing Dobby. Dobby casts a spell to levitate
the pudding up in the air.
And Harry's like, don't do it. and then
he like unfreezes time or however i
understood that yet dobby wasn't seen
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like he's like he was there but
they didn't see him that's my understanding at least yeah so it's like harry's
to blame absolutely do do do dobby please say it sir i can't dobby gave him
a tragic look then and Dobby must do it, sir, for Harry Potter's own good.
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The pudding fell to the floor with a heart-stopping crash.
Cream splattered the windows and walls as the dish shattered.
With a crack like a whip, Dobby vanished.
Yep. So that's why, so he just vanished. That's why he wasn't seen,
I guess, as soon as he dropped the thing.
And they later call it a hover charm in the letter.
Right. The letters seem to tell us that they are not good at identifying who
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did the magic, just that there was magic.
Somewhere where there's an unregistered young wizard or underage wizard. Underage, yep.
So Harry gets locked in there literally for the rest of, for the next four weeks.
He has to eat all his food that's being slid under the door.
I thought there was a cat door. Super sad. He shares it with Hedwig because
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they don't even get Hedwig food other than Harry's.
And then, as he's feeling exhausted, with his stomach rumbling and mind spinning
over the same unanswerable questions, Harry fell into an uneasy sleep.
He dreamed that he was on show in a zoo, with a card reading,
Underage Wizard attached to his cage.
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People goggled through the bars at him as he lay, starving and weak, on a bed of straw.
He saw Dobby's face in the crowd and shouted out, asking for help,
but Dobby called, Harry Potter is safe there, sir, and vanished.
Then the Dursleys appeared and Dudley rattled the bars of the cage, laughing at him.
Stop it harry muttered the rattling pounded in his sore head leave me alone
cut it out i'm trying to sleep he opened his eyes moonlight was shining through
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the bars on the window and someone was goggling through the bars at him a freckled
face red haired rot long nose someone ron weasley,
was outside harry's window that's where
i didn't include the unanswerable questions
but apparently though they were what would happen if
he didn't turn up at hogwarts would someone be sent to see why he hadn't come
back would they make the Dursleys let him go I kind of jumped in right after
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the questions but I said the same unanswerable question so yeah he's just kind
of freaking out he's worried he's never gonna get out and Ron shows up for him
our guy Harry our guy Ron yep.
Yeah I don't remember this part and like I said it might be an oh yeah kind
of thing but But I definitely want to hop on chapters three,
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four, five, like soon, like today.
Like I was, you know what I told David, I was like, we should just keep going
because Daniel has the tendency to like get really into it.
And then we'll just go like multiple times in the same weekend and then we'll
be caught up just like that.
So yeah, if you want to four, let's see, three, four, five, that'd be great.
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Hold on. I'm all about it.
Maybe we want to do. should we just do four three four five six that it's up
to you i'm i'm game if you're a game let's do it book right now i'll do it okay
let's do it let's go for four and let's see if we can meet up we could do like
over coffee in the morning or something tomorrow,
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yeah yeah i'm down okay bro have the best time enjoy this story it's very hilarious
and then wacky and then yeah it's funny good i'm so stoked cool thanks for making time for me bro.
Music.
Music.
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Hello and welcome to the Weasley's Wizarding Twincast.
What's a twincast? It's twin brothers reading the Harry Potter series for the
very first time in parallel.
Unbelievably, they've made it almost a quarter century before even being spoiled on the first book.
Thanks to me, their persistent older sister and guide, they're setting off on
this journey to Hogwarts every week. Buckle up for this week's Weasley sibling recap.
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Boom! I love it!
Sounds so professional. Isn't it kind of cute and dorky? It is!
Yeah. But we're cute and dorky.
We can be. Mostly the latter.
Mostly the latter. We're lucky. Yeah. So I guess I can start talking about just whatever.
So since we last spoken, Dan and his lovely girlfriend have actually decided
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to go and watch the Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone movie.
Which was extremely fast-paced compared to the book.
It's almost like you feel like you gotta grab your seat you
know it's yeah i mean you
always hear now the movie's not as good blah blah
blah because there's just so much detail and whatnot left out but i i mean i
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guess that's how they make it not only captivating but also not suck up five
hours of your time like lord of the rings or something yeah so even though you're
like oh i wouldn't want it to suck up five hours it's still like pretty long
though like i think it's like a two plus
our movie which in today's standards i feel like
is a little long yeah actually that's a good point i
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think it's i think it's one of the better
i think it's known as one of the better adaptations actually
yeah so i mean
in the future if you think about it like the books just get longer
and the movie length stays roughly the same until the
seventh so okay this one
has is able to include more of the things that actually happen
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in the book but they give really nice cute visuals what
were some of your favorite new visuals yeah so
Bryn kind of asked me the same thing new visuals is kind of tough
just from everything in the childhood you know seeing pictures or or just the
movie in and of itself I might have mentioned it to you on the phone or something
but like I sort of remembered what Fluffy looked like I kind of remembered what
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I definitely remembered what what like Hagrid and the kids and the teachers
and stuff all looked like.
So, you know, she kind of asked me, well.
When you're reading you kind of have an imagination you're you know
was there anything that surprised you in the movie or was there anything kind of
new and uh I think really
it's sort of the ending that was kind of new and
you know I can't remember like I couldn't remember exactly how
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that all unfolded I had I had slight memory
of the chess the chess game at the end and stuff but
I don't remember like the vines and the spell that Hermione
used to get Ron out of that or I guess
they just relaxed but anyway so I there's
just a little bit of that kind of stuff toward the end that
I don't really remember like I even the mirror I mean
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that was kind of midway through I suppose yeah yeah I just can't like I didn't
remember that and I I think it just must be a difference like when you're a
kid you're looking for different detail or I don't know you're maybe not paying
attention to that much detail or something but yeah so that was fun so So as far as new stuff,
I don't know. It was not as much new.
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I'm looking forward to that in the coming books and movies, obviously.
But I don't think there was too, too, too much to talk on as far as what was visually new.
I did have some observation, though, that I felt like, and it might make sense
for the series, but I felt like it was kind of like sillier than I expected
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it to be from reading the books.
Like the movie was kind of, I don't know if they were aiming at captivating
a younger audience and trying to like bring them all along for the journey of
the, however many movies, eight is eight. Sure.
Movies. Yeah. So I don't know if it was their idea to like,
all right, well let's kind of start them young, get a huge audience where adults
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and kids alike can kind of,
reel them in but yeah i felt like
there's a lot of kind of silly stuff that you'd
see in like a disney movie or just kind of comments like one-off
comments from hagrid or you know kind of
when he in in detail when he would be like i shouldn't have said that you know
it's like well yeah man like yeah i felt like that was kind of framed for the
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kids you know for the the younger audience but yeah so i'm curious i bet it's
true but i i'm curious if things in the movie setting thing.
Might get a little bit more serious as the plot
develops yeah just i
can't imagine it wouldn't if you know the
kids in the book are growing up then kind of.
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The audience may be with them i don't know so that
was that was one thing i couldn't really remember of course because you
know i was one of the kids watching the movies yeah but yeah
a lot of detail not necessarily left out
but just like expedited yeah anywhere
from like the first 10 minutes where.
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The like i felt like in the book they went
into a lot more detail about the dudleys and kind of
just the conversations sorry thank you
yeah between like just small conversations
and whatnot they they they kind of
of rapid fired all the the harry
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hates his life at home sort of stuff yeah i
mean they made it pretty clear pretty quick so they didn't really
need the drone on about it was just one of
the the things i noticed magic hat
didn't sing the song i don't know
that's right yeah there's a lot kids don't sing or
do they do they sing like a hogwarts song nope nope
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oh yeah hoggy hoggy hogwarts yeah
that was not not in the movie so it's just
little stuff like that so i can see it now like when people
are like ah the movie's good but the book is better it's like
well i guess yeah i mean it kind of yeah gives you
gives you more of the setting and and the the aura
of what the the kids were sitting in for
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their first time so yeah what was your favorite
visual scene that made you feel you.
Know because some of the things they describe in the book you have to have a
pretty good imagination to spend the time to envision those things on your own
for me it's like the moving staircases yeah like in the book you're kind of
like oh sure they move haha that's funny but when you see them it's like such
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a cool magical thing yeah it's grand it's stunning.
Yeah it's wow and then i don't know just seeing like snape in the background
of a scene right I think the actor, which actually I think he passed away a couple months ago.
But yeah, he just did an incredible job of just kind of being mysterious throughout,
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even when it wasn't his scene. So it was kind of fun to see that stuff.
But one of the bigger visually stimulating moments was the troll, for sure.
Oh, yeah. I don't know. I feel like everyone kind of pictures a troll differently from the movie trolls.
Or I don't know. Yeah. It could be really, I don't know, there's a lot of.
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Discrepancy on what that could that scene could have looked like but it was
pretty sweet it was pretty sweet so and i don't really remember that one too
well from childhood either so that was fun.
Definitely remember the wand up the nose of course as
a kid you're gonna remember that one yeah with all the goo i think yeah that's
nasty both i think brought that up when we read it that part the book goes on
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this on the wand right what's funny is i still think like certain characters
I remember envisioning Fluffy as a fluffy dog.
And so I still sometimes think about the original Fluffy that I had pictured when I was a kid.
And the one in the movie is like a pit bull.
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Yeah, it's like three big pit bulls. White fluffy dog. Yeah.
So I think that was interesting. I remember for some reason I had pictured Hagrid.
This is just like old memories. I remember recapping this movie with friends.
You know because this is the only one i really read when people were
reading them and then it was the only movie that i watched like i
was in that i was part of it for like one
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book you know right i remember saying oh yeah i thought haggard was going to
be like tall and skinny and i don't know if i thought that because it's like
our dad is tall and skinny yeah maybe but yeah haggard i remember he's like
oh he's so much burlier but now when i go back and read those scenes it's like
that's definitely how he's described it was just like my child brain
miss yeah expecting things so right
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right yeah and then it's obviously super intriguing
to see like the last scene too right where where
he meets goldmore and yeah that i don't remember much of that like visually
so that's pretty freaky but that's probably why i don't remember it because
i was like a kid and just hiding behind my hands yeah it's definitely scary you know Yeah.
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That scene was pretty crazy.
I mean, they did a great job in the book of making it also pretty scary,
but it's just interesting to see it.
Because, yeah, that was just... I don't know what I imagined.
I think I imagined a face that was a little less like,
like sapped of of kind of human traits oh yeah like it was it was very in the
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movie it was very much like kind of like a gooey play-doh mold face and in the
book yeah like it was more like spooky.
Defined but anyway so yeah i mean that was super fun i'm obviously stoked to continue,
especially since i don't know how you want to split
this up but especially since first two chapters are
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a little bit of recap i mean everyone regardless of
if you know harry potter or not you kind of know dobby so
that was fun uh-huh to kind of re-meet him after 15 years or whatever yes so
yeah i'm excited there's a lot of content that is up ahead given that we're on
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book two so yeah so before we
move on i will have a couple more questions about your movie watching experience was
there anything that bummed you out like
you noticed it was missing and you were like oh like where'd that go do you
remember filming at all man i'm not sure i think i was just in i think i was
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just enjoying kind of the simplicity of things yeah i mean it was pretty
fun yeah i don't know i don't think there's anything crucial that that was missing.
Good that's good uh that i was
like looking forward to seeing necessarily because i don't know they hit the
big stuff in the movie i guess that's kind of the point yeah true so nothing
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and then at the top okay and then did you have a favorite actor or actress were
you like oh that's like exactly how i envisioned that character that person's
playing it super well Wow.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of mentioned that with Snape. He was, he's exceptionally convincing.
And they set him up in the book, likewise, to kind of be the problem, right?
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But that's just not it. I think, actually, I really do think Malfoy was a pretty good kid actor.
Like, to be that malicious and that, you know, kind of that much of a bully.
Like, they did a pretty dang good job with Mr.
Malfoy. so yeah kind of
like joffrey in game of thrones right you're like yeah yeah you
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hate this little like young boy exactly that's
a really good actor if i can hate to be fair i hated joffrey
much more than malfoy yes i
think that's just because of i don't know i don't
know i don't know yeah stay tuned you know
you never know exactly maybe you'll hate him
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more or maybe you'll hate another character yeah child maybe probably
yeah that's a good that's
a good call out i i want to personally call out professor mcgonagall i
think that that actress is spot on
i think she does a perfect job of being like you that
is the type of person you'd want to make proud i like that she's
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very scottish and yeah dern and
warm at the same time i think that's really sweet i guess
if there's something to be bummed out i the quidditch kind
of scene to get harry the nimbus 2000 right
they kind of just cut to the chase it was like they were outside learning leave
it mason they kind of skipped a little bit of the detail it was pretty much
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like up you know and then he was flying chasing malfoy so it's like it just
happened really fast and then in the book they go into a.
And wood are in the same room and they're like, Hey, this is the,
like, this is what happened. Now he's your seeker.
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And then they kind of go and get the Nimbus 2000, but it, in the movie is really
quick. It was like, he's chasing halfway.
She doesn't like, she's like, you're in trouble. And then just doesn't,
I think she brings him to the classroom that Woods in rather than like her office or whatever.
She's basically just like, Hey, he's your seeker now. And Woods like, cool.
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Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I think that scene where he's like catching the remember all too is also
quite embellished in the movie versus how it is in the book.
Cause like you're, like you're saying, I think there was more dialogue that
made it powerful versus the visual that made it powerful. Right.
Yeah i would agree with that i would agree with that but
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yeah one thing to point out is awesome too yeah one thing
to point out that i've heard on other podcasts is how well
i've noticed it too i guess i shouldn't just say i heard it but the
scene where harry defeats coral and voldemort
right at one point he like burns coral's
face yep and basically the implication
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is that coral dies eyes which i think we
don't get in the book i think they describe it more like he
burns him and he falls down and then harry like blacks
out right right like we don't have that clarity versus in
the movie they just went full on yeah like you you murdered this man like his
head is exploded that's a great point i did have that thought when i was watching
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it too i should have remembered that one yeah that was yeah that was definitely
different and there there is that That is the reason I was hiding behind my
hands as a kid, too. Yeah.
I mean, and then when taken that way, you're like, man, like,
when we jump into book two now and he's just having a regular summer,
you're like, that man needs therapy.
Like, he is traumatized from murdering someone by accident in self-defense.
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I know. Hold on. Mason's interrupting. This might be a thing. I might have to, like...
Cut this out from hey lay down
sorry that's what makes it organic stay yeah
that's you know i think that's probably on everyone's
mind when they go into book two if you if you're ready
unless you have some more questions about the movie yeah let's
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do it but i yeah so as far as book two
i think it's on everyone's mind when they start and you're
like really like this super powerful kid
wizard is back in this closet locked up
like i know he's got the threats of
using magic because the the dursleys have
no idea that that's not allowed they figure that out but
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but at first it's like
really like i know they were disconnected all
year but i don't know
it does appear thus far that harry's
more okay with it because he's just like itching to get back
to hogwarts he's like yeah this sucks but like i i
have more confidence in myself because i am
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a wizard you know yeah he yeah
he's definitely more confident about his wizardry he is to to just correct you
mildly he is in the bedroom now he's in the second bedroom that's right that's
right dudley's second bedroom yeah he's not in the closet he's outgrown the
closet he does have room for his owl even
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though Hedwig is not allowed to leave the cage, which is very sad.
And then he makes noise like any animal would if they were locked up for that long.
Yeah. Yeah. It's the classic, like when, you know, Mason's extra annoying and
it's like, well, we didn't walk
him today, so we can't really be mad that he's like acting out. Right.
Right. Yeah. So then we get a little of this scene. He's sad because he doesn't
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think he got any letters.
Yep. Over the summer. Right. Right.
Yeah, that would be pretty, pretty brutal if you had these great friendships.
And I mean it when I say great because they were sort of in life or death situations
at the end. Yeah, that's true.
It would feel a little bit like you were abandoned if you just went through
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this like moment where you literally sacrificed for each other.
Right. You didn't know what that meant at the time. However,
I was like, go home on the train and never speak to them again.
Yeah. However, I was, I mean, the kid's 12, so I don't know how an undeveloped
brain would think about things,
but if his prior experience at home was his uncle ruining and hiding and whatever,
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doing all these things to the letters that were for Harry.
If I were Harry, I would just make the assumption that he's still just doing that.
And he'd be like, can I have my letters? oh that's a good point
you know what i mean he's like yeah there's no way that
they're not actually writing to me can i yeah like
why are you hiding my letters but they
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don't really mention that at all like yeah that's
a great point that he's his brain automatically goes
to like my friends have left me and not to
like these people who are actively sabotaging my
life yeah it goes into
a detail too about like he gets sad just bringing up
the name of hermione or ron and you
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know it's it's sad but it's like dude somebody's
probably hiding these letters because you you went
through this already right but yeah didn't know it would be a little creepy
l it's a great point yeah i love the way he just did not that was the last thing
he expected to see i like that he briefly gets until like you said until they
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learn that he's not allowed to do magic at home he gets to like mess with.
The family a little bit i mean kind of by accident but then later when
dudley's bothering him in the yard he's just like he's ready
to take a bush yeah yeah burn the
shrub or whatever but yeah they even like magic is
the m word in their family now
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too yeah the m word you can't say the m word which hey if somebody slapped a
pig's tail on my butt i'd probably not want to use that word either yeah it'd
be a little triggering perhaps yeah you know you had to get a tail surgically
removed there's like a scientific essay written about that experience as well.
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It's like patient zero for this pigtail thing yeah
so yeah and the story their their whole chapter here
is pretty much like you said more exposition they're gonna do this kind of every
book where they act like as if you weren't just reading the first book and you
jumped right in so they give you a brief like Harry had just faced the darkest
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wizard of all time like based on their releases and stuff that makes total sense,
so I'm not yeah I'm not like upset
with it but I would just mention that there's not as much content yet,
but they did open the doors for it right I mean even just the cliffhanger to,
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well I mean the cliffhanger at the end of chapter 2 being you know you can't,
Use magic to get out of your bedroom.
And if you do, you're banned from Hogwarts. Like, already you're like,
okay, well, he's not going to be stuck for six more books.
Like, what's going to happen? And the rest of the story continues while he's stuck in his room. Yeah.
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And just because of the things we've covered on a previous episode about, like, what do you know?
Well, like, he gets back to Hogwarts. It's just a matter of how.
And honestly, I can't really remember.
Oh. So it'll be kind of fun. Yeah, that's going to be fun. Yeah.
So that'll be good. But yeah, then we meet Dobby and Dobby is like,
you jump past the entire storyline of the chapter.
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And then we meet Dobby. And then we meet Dobby. Right.
Because they're just, they're getting ready to cheese up this guy and make a big sale.
And Harry just, Harry and Dobby just,
Completely ruin it. Completely ruin it. With the pudding. Let's lift it up.
Yeah, that's right. I thought it was interesting. There's like an alarm for
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magic outside of Hogwarts or something.
Like the Ministry sent him a letter going, hey, we noticed.
Instantly. Instantly. Right, in the letter he already had in his hand from Dobby.
Yeah, you have me thinking about these letters. I'm like, they should,
like, Hogwarts should adopt whatever technology the ministry has for sending
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letters very quickly and directly because that letter made it to Harry immediately.
Right. Versus all the owl letters was like a lost cause.
Like, you spent hundreds of Canucks on owls, owl mail. Right.
Last summer and to no avail.
You end up having to send someone anyway. Yeah. But this really worked.
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Yep. So it kind of there's, you know, maybe something we'll learn later,
but kind of the power of the Ministry of Magic and like what they can kind of do magic.
I just sound there's my Midwest accent coming back for some reason.
I didn't even hear it because now I'm surrounded by it. Yeah, true. True.
So we get Dobby here. And what does Dobby explain to Harry?
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Dobby explains to Harry that he should not go back to Hogwarts.
Warts he would be in mortal danger that's
right he also slips up and
for that same reason mentions the
letters that he's been holding hostage because he
doesn't want harry to have any hope of going back good catch too for harry to
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be like wait a second what did you just say yeah how do you know anyone's been
writing to me right so yeah so there's some danger and he he said it wasn't
he didn't mention Voldemort well they mentioned him but he,
it wasn't that like he's just like it's not and
harry's like well does he have a brother and dobby's like no well okay
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so he's like at this point harry's going well
then i'm gonna go back like yeah i don't i don't know who else is my biggest
enemy if it's not voldemort right i think they made that pretty clear in the
first book that like hey this dude tried to kill you once tried to kill you
twice he is the only person who's ever tried to kill you in fact really so Yeah,
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most of us only have, you know, zero to one, I would say, people trying to kill us. Exactly.
So, yeah, that's a good point. So Harry's kind of like, I'm not into this.
Yeah, he's not convinced.
He's like, wait. I don't know what you could be talking about.
Do you have any ideas of what he's talking about? I forget what you know about
this book or think you know.
Yeah, we probably should have covered that before.
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I think we did. I think we would have covered it, like, in the first podcast.
So I know there's the snake. I don't remember how it gets there or what it represents.
I was after watching the movie, the first movie with Bryn.
I do recall the scene that he kills the snake.
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Unfortunately, the epic kind of ending.
I don't know if that's the end of the movie. I would assume so with like the
iconic scene of him stabbing it through the freaking jaw. Like I do remember that unfortunately.
However, I don't remember what gets
you there i remember he can talk to the snake because
he can talk to snakes because we learned that in the first book what
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else do i remember i feel like dobby like comes
through i don't i think it's in chamber of secrets but i
remember him like coming through and doing something unexpected because
you think he's just like a little house elf then he does something like he
has some i feel like he uses some spell at some point i i can't remember what
it was exactly i'm trying really hard but again i don't know if that's chamber
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of secrets or not i don't remember too much about what goes on at hogwarts prior to the snake scenes,
down below i want to say i remember someone being down there as well as harry
during those scenes but i can't remember who that is or what their significance is.
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Yeah just kind of i think we're gonna start getting that right
like the first movie i remembered a lot um obviously
not from the book but from the movie uh just because of me not reading at a
young age or ever sure yeah and i think we're gonna keep getting that so like
this one i i remember some stuff you know of course the ending unfortunately
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but but like Like that's pretty much it.
I'm like trying to be so careful because I'm like, but I'm trying to gauge.
It sounds like you're like nearly a hundred percent. Sure. That's the ending to this book.
I'm pretty dang sure. Like, I remember seeing that scene.
So it's a matter of when during the book. But I can't imagine that if there's
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a big danger at Hogwarts and he's not talking about the snake,
that would like he's definitely talking about the snake and then he kills the snake.
I just don't really remember anything about why or how or what.
So, no, it's OK. I just want to know if I should just like be like,
well, I don't know if that's good.
What's funny about this? You don't have to hide it at all. what's funny about
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the snake is that both you and David seem to have pretty vivid imagery of the snake.
But what I enjoyed when I was going back to edit David's like second and third
podcasts, he was pretty sure that happened in the very first book.
So I actually find it entertaining that as much as you guys were unspoiled on
the turban being Voldemort's head, but like the snake thing you got,
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like, like who, I don't know.
I just, I've seen, I remember seeing the sorcerer's stone like so many times.
Growing up that i think it's funny that you actually remember
the movie for book two better yeah i
mean that could literally be like i mean you studied brain development
and kids like that could be just one additional year it
helps the memory a little bit more or i don't
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know yeah that's i don't know why i really don't remember
enough about the the actual movie just
those scenes right so like yeah
and i think something about a creature being the scary villain
is like for kids especially spooky i think it might have just been a more traumatic
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scene for us to see when we were young is like yeah this giant snake yeah and
so so i don't know like i'm not gonna you know i'm i'm trying to be pretty transparent
with the podcast like i you know i absolutely
now i'm trying to wonder i just know
i'm really glad you're open about it because it helps me decide when
you and david can come together and so i'm still like as
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you guys reveal this stuff it's helping me piece the puzzle together when you
can start we can start doing podcasts all together do you remember what else
briefly take me through or as long as it takes like what else you think you
remember happening in the series that's now now you know okay we
already saw one book and then you pretty sure, you know, it happens in book two.
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So do you remember anything that you think happens in the later books? Yeah.
So I, yeah, I don't know how much I covered. I tried to cover all of it,
of course, in the first episode. I can cut it out too if I'm being repetitive.
I just need it. Yeah, that's fine.
So what I remember, yeah, yeah, a good reminder.
So I remember that guy that turns into a rat and his, he's like a little stout man.
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Don't remember what significance. I'm pretty sure he resides in like a tower.
I remember there's a phoenix at some point, Dumbledore's phoenix.
I don't know the significance of it i just remember like oh
shiny bird yeah you gotta have i i
think that's i want to say that's the same
scene as like dobby getting freed because i know that that was brought up in
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chapter two of this book was like only you can free me and then he was like
super happy that harry's like well i'm gonna try to free you like wait when
did he say that i don't know During the second chapter.
He said, you're the only one that can free me. Or am I the only one?
I forgot how the dialogue went.
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But it was like, Harry can free him. Harry asked him, why don't you leave or escape?
And he says, a house elf must be set free, sir. And the family will never set
Dobby free. He will serve the family until he dies.
Yeah, read a little more. I think it's after that. I am. Hold on.
And I thought I... Harry stared.
And I thought it... And I thought I had it bad staying here for another four
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weeks, he said. This makes the Dursleys sound almost human.
Can't anyone help you? Can't I?
Almost at once, Harry wished he hadn't spoken. Dobby dissolved in wails of gratitude.
Please, Harry whispered frantically. Please be quiet. If the Dursleys hear anything,
if they know you're here.
Harry Potter asked if he can help Dobby. Dobby has heard of your greatness,
sir, but of your goodness, Dobby never knew.
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Harry, who was feeling distinctly hot in the face, said, said whatever you've
heard about my greatness is a load of rubbish i'm not even top of my year at
hogwarts that's hermione she is so humble and then
which is what dobby says harry potter is humble and modest harry
potter speaks not of his triumph over he must not be named voldemort said harry
or probably not like that voldemort harry clapped his hands over his bat ears
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sorry i know a lot of people don't like it blah blah and then they kind of move
on dobby doesn't really say like Like, yeah, I want you to set me free.
He more is like taken aback by how Harry seems to care about him being set free.
Well, then maybe that's something I remember. But I, you know,
he did mention family and Harry is the only in his family.
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Like he's the only person left in the family. And it's not like the Dursleys get a house elf.
It's like, it's a Potter elf. Well, Dobby's not from the Potter family.
Oh, well, I thought that he says he, by the house. Oh yeah.
Sorry. Remind me, did you listen or read this? These two chapters you listened.
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I listened twice actually, because I'm trying to like during the first, no, I totally get it.
I think listening, you just sometimes like when
you only hear bits and pieces you put the sentence together and i just want to be clear let's
see he says let me just
pause while i look for this i mean i do like i do
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remember a scene where he's like dobby's a free elf
or whatever i don't know when that happens but
yeah i'm not saying that doesn't that's not a scene
but he okay dobby
had to punish himself sir said the elf who
had gone slightly cross-eyed dabby almost spoke ill of
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his family sir your family the wizard
family dabby serves sir dabby is a house elf bound
to serve one house and one family forever do they know you're here asked carrie
no harry curiously oh no sir no dabby will have to punish himself most grievously
for coming to see you sir dabby will have to shut his ears in the oven door
for this if they ever knew sir but won't they notice if If you shut your ears in the oven door,
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Dobby doubts it, sir. Dobby's always having to punish himself for something, sir.
He lets Dobby get on with it, sir. Sometimes they remind me to do extra punishments.
But why don't you leave? Escape. And then he asks.
So he's, I mean, the implication is that he works for another family that would
be pretty pissed to find out that he came to see Harry Potter.
Okay. Well, that's better. Yeah. I mean, in like the third chapter,
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I think there's a line where Harry is like wondering where Dobby came from.
So then it like reinforces that. that so you'll hear that okay but i
just want you to be like whoa yeah so he
is otherwise he would have probably been around harry okay
well cool yeah as far as the rest all right right i'm trying to remember i think
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it's probably in the same book that there's serious black i think is his name
and he like turns into like a werewolf i think that's the same book as the rat guy.
Again, I don't remember the significance, but there is conflict there that I can think on.
Okay. I just forget what goes on. I remember there's Dementors by a lake, by the woods.
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Dave called them... Oh, man. What did he call them in episode two or three?
Is there something similar character-wise in Lord of the Rings?
Yes. Ringwraiths. Yeah. He's like Ringwraith-looking dudes.
And that's hilarious and i i'm like
what's a ring right and then oh my gosh we'll
have to run it back with a podcast yeah you and lord of
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the rings that'd be hilarious but you're
sitting here with the correct terminology so yeah i think you and it's funny
because you and david must have been in the same room for a lot of these memories
but sure you seem to be more confident about like the vividness of it david's
more like yeah i have flashes of like ringwraith looking guys he's like.
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I know there's a big snake but he's not like
oh i can picture harry killing it like you're saying
i that memory came to me i didn't remember
that until like bren and i were watching the
first movie and then i was like he gets a
sword at some point and stabs that snake like that's totally
what i remember do i remember anything about
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the snake yeah i remember i'm
pretty sure i remember it like talking to him while he's
upstairs like i remember the snakes
down in like the sewers or something but he like hears voices
or something there's oh yeah there's like ghosts and
stuff and there's like is this where he meets jenny and
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she's like in the hospital i don't know
i'm just random things that i remember you're just pulling scenes that i'm like
are popping into my head as you mentioned them and i'm just like oh okay and
i think that's all chamber of secrets so i'm I'm wondering if you and me and
Dave actually had really similar beginnings to the series.
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Because I think Anna says she maintains that mom didn't read the book to me
and her as much as she read it.
I feel like she's told me she thinks mom read it to me and you and David at
the same time. I remember like.
Or maybe you said it. I think I remember.
Like her reading or or just the book being around with chamber of secrets more
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than sorcerer's stone i don't know if we liked it more or something but like she read it to you.
I don't remember her reading it to me but i
remember like oh you read it i think i know what the cover sort
of looks like okay because here's how
i read chamber of secrets is i borrowed it from teddy ortega
in elementary school yeah and i
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got halfway through and i remember he asked me if i was done yet
and i felt self-conscious you know because my intuition's always.
To feel self-conscious and i was like oh my god i haven't read it
fast enough but i didn't want to admit that so i just went oh yeah
yeah yeah i'll bring it back and like i brought it back to him and i was
only halfway done and so i just didn't know what happened in the rest
of the books so that's where i stopped reading and the movies i
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did remember movies one two and three or i remember them
like in decreasing amounts like i
was very confident about what happened in sorcerer's stone so i
did remember like the end and i remembered like the mirror and everything
okay then this movie i also
was like yeah like other than a few
details i was pretty much 100 on this movie the
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third movie started to like what you're describing when there
was like flashes like the ringwraiths for sure because it
was probably we probably all watched it together and we're scared is what probably
happened it could be honestly yeah i mean
like i'm just trying to be transparent the other ones i didn't
watch any of the other ones did you remember remember watching them either not until
after i had read the series so it was very fun to see to have
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all the surprises that are coming up in your life yeah no i'm excited and i
mean you know if this chapter book two is like just a bunch of oh i remember
it's like well well maybe then then we don't have the best content for this
book but you know rest assured.
The following one you know you gotta remember there's people who recap
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this book having already read it 17 times each
like that's true yeah so it's okay
if you just remember and we can just talk about like how i
mean in your case well i guess in those podcasts
they relate it to what happens in the future right it's kind of like going back
and looking for the foreshadowing and looking for like those
little scenes that kind of lead to something that you don't see
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again until book six or whatever and the
author does a really good job of planting those seeds which is that's kind
of fun to look for but yeah i mean you can just like know what happens it's
fine and i think i learned from david yeah i mean i'm the next
read we could do three instead of two chapters yeah
i would agree i mean also just because the first chapter
is kind of an intro slash like recap yeah i
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mean i'm always afraid to like start with too much i don't know why
i just yeah yeah that's fine anyway okay so
you don't think you remember anything from like book four or movie four four
what's three three is the prisoner of azkaban oh oh i thought that was like
four and then four is goblet goblet of fire does that ring any bells at all
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the name does but the content doesn't know you don't remember a goblet i don't
remember a goblet i i don't.
Maybe that's when we can bring you guys together unless that's where the phoenix
is and that's the fire, but what's funny is like, I'm, I'm holding out on like
maybe dumb reasons because I'm like little things.
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Okay. But this is a big thing. You remember that there's a guy who turns into a rat, right?
David, if David recalled it this way, he said, oh, I remember there's this guy
or maybe it's a rat and then he went on and described it and I love that.
He doesn't know that the guy is the rat.
And I think that's so important for him to, like, not know that.
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So that's one of the things that you guys can't, like, and maybe you could just
not tell him that. But I don't know.
I like that you would look at through the lens of, oh, okay.
Yeah, I think after book three, we can start to, like, combine.
Okay, cool. And you and I can take a little bit quicker pace than David and
I did on this since you have a pretty solid recollection of things.
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Yeah. yeah yeah i mean it i think it's
probably like but you don't seem to know where dobby's from right i
don't know where dobby's from or what day well you said
you assume the day i thought pretty hard about it i don't i i don't
think i'll have an oh yeah moment with that one you know
i'll probably have an oh yeah moment with a lot of stuff in chamber
of secrets if i already sort of know the plot well at
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least the ending okay but yeah i
don't know where dobby's from i don't i don't know how he gets back to hogwarts i
don't know the snake significance i just
know he like hears voices i'm pretty sure like snape catches him
like hearing voices or like can also hear
the voices or something but i i'm not positive there i'm just kind of right
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blabbing yeah okay i know yeah no that's good okay i think oh wait did you have
something else no not no i'm just i'm still just like trying to think as hard
as i can because i think that's worth because it's not worth like
pretending like i don't know there's a snake you know like that's not no that
would be awesome that's not truthful yeah and ultimately that's not what people
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would want to hear anyway so.
No yeah i mean every pretty much every podcast that has someone who hasn't read
it is like they are familiar with early stuff because it was just such a i mean
you know like when your friend goes to harry potter world and gets a wand that
like the wand chooses the wizard you know There's stuff that you just know is a thing. Yeah.
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Okay, so we get a little... Yeah, I like when Harry's like, does Voldemort have a brother?
Yeah. I just think that's funny. Yeah. So Harry's basically like,
Yeah, like, he catches Dobby stealing his letters. So now he's kind of mad at
Dobby. And he's like, I don't get what your warning is. Uh-huh.
Oh, I remember. Hold on. And then Dobby, like, he's trying to ask for the letters.
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Well, sorry. Harry's trying to ask for the letters from Dobby.
And that's when they break out into the kitchen.
Dobby goes first. I think Harry's chasing Dobby. Dobby casts a spell to levitate
the pudding up in the air.
And Harry's like, don't do it. and then
he like unfreezes time or however i
understood that yet dobby wasn't seen
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like he's like he was there but
they didn't see him that's my understanding at least yeah so it's like harry's
to blame absolutely do do do dobby please say it sir i can't dobby gave him
a tragic look then and Dobby must do it, sir, for Harry Potter's own good.
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The pudding fell to the floor with a heart-stopping crash.
Cream splattered the windows and walls as the dish shattered.
With a crack like a whip, Dobby vanished.
Yep. So that's why, so he just vanished. That's why he wasn't seen,
I guess, as soon as he dropped the thing.
And they later call it a hover charm in the letter.
Right. The letters seem to tell us that they are not good at identifying who
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did the magic, just that there was magic.
Somewhere where there's an unregistered young wizard or underage wizard. Underage, yep.
So Harry gets locked in there literally for the rest of, for the next four weeks.
He has to eat all his food that's being slid under the door.
I thought there was a cat door. Super sad. He shares it with Hedwig because
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they don't even get Hedwig food other than Harry's.
And then, as he's feeling exhausted, with his stomach rumbling and mind spinning
over the same unanswerable questions, Harry fell into an uneasy sleep.
He dreamed that he was on show in a zoo, with a card reading,
Underage Wizard attached to his cage.
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People goggled through the bars at him as he lay, starving and weak, on a bed of straw.
He saw Dobby's face in the crowd and shouted out, asking for help,
but Dobby called, Harry Potter is safe there, sir, and vanished.
Then the Dursleys appeared and Dudley rattled the bars of the cage, laughing at him.
Stop it harry muttered the rattling pounded in his sore head leave me alone
cut it out i'm trying to sleep he opened his eyes moonlight was shining through
(44:20):
the bars on the window and someone was goggling through the bars at him a freckled
face red haired rot long nose someone ron weasley,
was outside harry's window that's where
i didn't include the unanswerable questions
but apparently though they were what would happen if
he didn't turn up at hogwarts would someone be sent to see why he hadn't come
back would they make the Dursleys let him go I kind of jumped in right after
(44:45):
the questions but I said the same unanswerable question so yeah he's just kind
of freaking out he's worried he's never gonna get out and Ron shows up for him
our guy Harry our guy Ron yep.
Yeah I don't remember this part and like I said it might be an oh yeah kind
of thing but But I definitely want to hop on chapters three,
(45:06):
four, five, like soon, like today.
Like I was, you know what I told David, I was like, we should just keep going
because Daniel has the tendency to like get really into it.
And then we'll just go like multiple times in the same weekend and then we'll
be caught up just like that.
So yeah, if you want to four, let's see, three, four, five, that'd be great.
(45:29):
Hold on. I'm all about it.
Maybe we want to do. should we just do four three four five six that it's up
to you i'm i'm game if you're a game let's do it book right now i'll do it okay
let's do it let's go for four and let's see if we can meet up we could do like
over coffee in the morning or something tomorrow,
(45:51):
yeah yeah i'm down okay bro have the best time enjoy this story it's very hilarious
and then wacky and then yeah it's funny good i'm so stoked cool thanks for making time for me bro.
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