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Music.
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And you read how many chapters for today?
This one was four. So yeah, okay. Definitely a lot, but not necessarily a lot
of reading, but like a lot to remember a lot of detail.
Yes. So hopefully I can just finish. So it's all raw.
Yes, that is true. That's why I wanted to kind of kind of just jump right in.
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Perfect. So where do we start our journey today in chapter three, The Burrow?
Oh, we started our journey with Ron to the rescue, if I may.
That's right. So we left off. He was somehow outside of Harry's second story window.
Yep. Somehow. Comforting red hair. Yep. And Harry knew he was being saved. But who joined him?
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The twins. The twins. Twin shout out. Yep.
Yep. Good for everything. And what were they driving? How did they get there?
Well a flying car of course it's
a ford something anglia anglia okay
they kept saying that and i i didn't recognize the
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model i'm not yeah you know i realize now that
i don't think they still make ford anglias unless it's a
european version you know what i mean i i
had that exact thought too i was like well i mean they're like they're in the
uk i don't know they have might throw different models all over the world i
don't know much about cars so maybe we'll have listeners someday period full
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stop and then maybe we'll have listeners from the uk someday and they can tell us.
And they can tell us if the ford anglia really exists now we could google this
but i think this way is way more fun i got it anglia.
Ford Anglia. Ah, okay. Yeah, I mean, I think it's supposed to be an old model
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to probably represent the Weasley wealth, by the way. Oh.
So, I don't know. It looks like a pretty nice vehicle, but I don't think they're
going to show beaters on Wikipedia.
Yeah, I see what you mean. Or jalopies, rather. Yeah, do we get more information about how Mr.
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Weasley obtained? This car?
I don't remember that from the read. But I know he doesn't get paid too much
to be part of the ministry.
Government jobs. He probably has good benefits and good vacation time, though. Yeah.
I believe because he works in the department for the misuse of magical objects,
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he at one point confiscated a muggle vehicle.
I mean, it definitely does hint on that, that he's got a lot of those things.
So a garage full. I just don't remember it. Yeah. Yeah. Shed. Yes.
Well, they drove this flying car and figured that Harry was in danger of some
kind, or at least not happy if he wasn't answering all Ron's letters.
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Precise. So instead of getting adults involved, the three boys.
One sec. Mason, go to timeout. Go to timeout.
Go. Go to timeout. All the way. Go to timeout.
Good boy. Lay down. No. Timeout. Good. Down. No. Back up.
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Back up. He's poking his head out. Back up.
Lay down. No. You're going away from timeout now.
Hey, how about you just lay right here then? I don't know.
His new hobby is like letting me know. I think it's every dog's hobby,
but I think he feels especially like it's his duty to make sure that I know
that there are kids playing in the street.
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There's a dog also in the street. Oh, my God.
Yeah. The dog is on a leash.
There's humans with him, and he just wants me to know that that dog is extra
fluffy. He barks at the fluffy ones, especially. Yeah.
Tsk, tsk. Don't.
You're making me, mom, have to edit more. Okay. You were just going to tell that.
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Where was I? You were mentioning the shed full of things, and that's how he got his car.
Right. I said, so the boys, instead of letting the parents intervene,
they decided to take it upon themselves to take their dad's car without his
permission out of the garage, seemingly in the middle of the night.
To drive across the countryside not sure how far these two live from each other
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yeah i don't know without hopefully not being seen by muggles all to rescue their friend right,
which we learned that the weasleys were kind of gonna do anyway yeah the parents
are like yeah guys this is something we also pay attention to because we're
responsible adults yep exactly and And we could have handled this in a number of ways,
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such as by taking flu powder. Yep.
Which we get to later. Yes. So they kind of have to steal him away.
He has to get all his belongings from under the stairs. And luckily, is it Fred?
Yes, Fred happens to know the muggle way to pick locks.
He feels like a lot of wizards don't bother learning muggle tricks,
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but he and George find this to be a good skill to have.
So he picks the lock on Harry's door, escapes the room in order to go downstairs
to get his magical trunk and his broom and his, what else do you leave down there?
I it just said like his turf you
know his belongings yeah oh george
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is driving oh i did ask david who do you think of the two of you would be the
driver and who would be the jump in the house and break into stuff if you were
rescuing one of your friends from summer vacation wow Wow.
That's an interesting question.
Well, for the drive, let's address this in two parts. For the drive,
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you already know I'd be in the passenger seat sleeping if it was that long.
That's just how I am. Everyone knows that. That said, yeah, I'd probably be the one to hop out too.
You guys are on the same page about that. Nope. He felt that the chaos that
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would occur inside the house would be playing to your strengths and your responsibility
of keeping the car on the sky road.
Or at least how I took it was, you know, the actual like stay calm and get the
car out of here would be him.
Yeah, I think that's probably spot on. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, I like that.
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So that would make so that's our first clue. I've asked this before,
but until now, they've always just kind of done the same thing.
But that means that maybe Dave has more George vibes and you have more Fred vibes.
I'm here for it. We're going to stay tuned with that and see if we don't get
our minds changed as we go here. Yeah, for real.
Well, they hear Uncle Vernon wake up. And so in the nick of time,
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they managed to squeeze out the window.
Vernon, even though he's spent several weeks now with this boy locked in the
house, seems like he cares all of a sudden if he disappears.
Ears so he's trying to pull him back in through the window yep
grabbing him by the foot no one understands why
this didn't harry have to go back in to get hedwig
is that why he was yeah which like hedwig's been
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through a lot you know just he
almost forgot him it just breaks my heart but he got him yep
so that's vernon seems concerned about
this but ultimately to no
avail harry yells see you next summer weasley's word
with laughter and harry settled back in his seat grinning from ear to ear he
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lets hedwig out she can fly behind us she hasn't had a chance to stretch her
wings for ages and then hedwig soar joyfully out of the window to glide along
them like a ghost and then ron's all all right explain yourself,
What's been going on? Why haven't you been answering all my mail? And let's see.
Yeah, I was like, are you asking me or are you just recapping?
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I was like, I can tell you.
Help me put together the story here. I mean, everyone knows what's been going on.
I mean, he just comes clean with the first chapter, which is the recap with the Dursleys.
Basically just telling them how life has been and how bad
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it's been so he also mentions the elf though he mentions Dobby and so that's
kind of where they cover like you know Ron's mentioning hey my dad knows like
he knows you were using magic and Harry's like it wasn't me I swear right yeah
so then that's kind of where they introduce the
Dobby character and the and the potential of either a joke or you know kind
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of just evaluating what that situation was and what it meant. Yeah.
Yeah. They give us a little insight into the Dobby situation.
They, they, they're surprised that he wouldn't tell him who's been plotting all this stuff.
How's elves have got powerful magic of their own, but they can't usually use
it without their master's position.
Permission. I reckon old Dobby was sent to stop you from coming back to Hogwarts
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was sent to stop you from coming back to Hogwarts. I see.
Someone's idea of a joke. And then they hypothesize that maybe it's Draco Malfoy
and perhaps Dobby works for the Malfoys. Yeah.
Yeah. That seems like it could definitely be a possibility.
However, I don't know. Well, let's keep recapping.
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Well, we get a little tidbit about Lucius Malfoy, Draco's father,
being someone that used to be a big supporter of you know who,
according to Mr. Weasley.
And then when you know who disappeared lucius malfoy came back saying he never
meant any of it load of dung dad reckons he was right in you know who's inner circle.
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Well, whoever owns Dobby must be an old wizarding family, and they'll be rich, said Fred.
So we get some insight into rich families are able to afford house elves.
Which, it sounds like it's free labor, so I'm not sure where affording comes
into it. I mean, I guess, I don't know.
That's slippery. I guess I do know the answer to that based on history, but let's not go there.
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Copy. Yeah, so the Weasleys are not quite wealthy enough for this privilege.
But they do, instead of a house elf, they have a lousy old ghoul in the attic.
And gnomes all over the garden.
Yep. And he groans and keeps Ron up at night. Makes a lot of noise. Right.
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And they thought, oh man, when you weren't answering for a while,
I just assumed it was Errol's fault, the old owl.
That's sad. Poor Errol. Yeah. Percy's been acting very oddly this summer.
He's been sending a lot of letters and spending a lot of time shut up in his
room. I mean, there's only so many times you can polish a prefect badge.
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Do-do-do.
All right, so then we get back to home.
And then they just go to bed, really. And the surprise appears in the morning.
Yeah, they talk briefly about how dad got...
Yeah they talk here about how dad got the car he works
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in the boring department of the misuse of mobile artifacts office they
talked about a tea set being boiling tea
spraying yeah they say it's just dad and one other guy this old warlock named
perkins in the office they had to do memory terms and stuff to cover it all
up okay that his dad would be arrested by himself if he had to raid Raid his own home, right?
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What's that? They kind of mentioned that because of his shed full of these items. Oh.
That if they raided their own house, he'd be in trouble.
That's exactly right. Yeah. So we pull in, like you said, we pull into the burrow.
It has like a cute little name. Mm-hmm.
And there's some chickens. We learn later there are gnomes.
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And there is a very displeased Mother Weasley who comes out to ream him out.
She's very careful about not being upset with Harry.
Yep. But she makes it very clear, like any mother would in this scenario,
why this is a big problem.
Yep. Says you could have died, you could have been seen, and you could have
lost your father his job. So...
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You've read four chapters, so now we know that this little episode doesn't seem
to deter Harry and Ron from making similarly poor decisions later on.
Yeah, right, right. In which they could also have died or been seen or lost the father's job. Yeah.
And maybe Ron was more on the like, hey, it's Fred and George's fault.
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They kind of helped, you know, like they drove.
Which they were kind of authorized to, though, sort of, right?
Because they're not underage.
Is that is that right i know
the risk of being seen is always a problem but
or is it is it like the car
george underage okay so it's
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because i remember when they age in the car itself is the magic thing so i guess
it's not like some ministry yeah yeah okay okay yeah i know i guess it had to
You have to be alive and not just bewitched to be to have that like automatic
message sent over to the ministry or something. Okay.
To be detected, I guess. Well, okay.
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Yeah. And then as kids, I mean, Ron could just be like, well,
this is how we got to get to Hogwarts. So let's do it, Harry.
And, you know, the brothers did it before. So really, it was their fault prior and now whatever.
Yeah, just classic kid stuff. You know, you're like, that was them getting in trouble, not me. Yeah.
I like the visual we get of the weasley's
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house what do you make of the burrow dan i mean
it it sounds they did a pretty good job describing it it was pretty much like
just held up by magic which harry was like yeah that's because they're allowed
to do that um so yeah it's a good description that something should fall down
but it's only being held up by magic right right so So, I don't know.
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I'm a function over fashion type of guy myself.
You are. That's what I know about you. Yep.
So, I think, you know, it's cheap, but it's not special, right?
And that's kind of what Harry alluded to when Ron's like, it's not much.
He's like, no, this is awesome. This is really cool.
Exactly, yeah. I mean, he's never seen a house that's this much, but...
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Yeah, Harry's never seen a house where a magic family has grown up.
So even though he's been to Hogwarts and he's seen kids who have grown up with
magic as a part of their lives, he's never been in that environment.
So it's still fun to have like a new setting for Harry to see.
We get a glance at Gilderoy Lockhart's Guide to Household Pests,
making an appearance here.
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One of his e-books. Which Mrs. Weasley makes sure to point out that he is marvelous
and he knows his household pests all right. right? It's a wonderful book.
And Fred points out mom fancies him.
So this guy has made quite the impression on some of the ladies in the story.
Yeah, he knows it too. He is a little full of himself. So excited to see where that goes.
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I think they do a pretty solid development of this character.
So I think he's probably going to be a pretty big piece later.
You kind of, And I don't know, I feel like you've gotten that with a couple
of characters in the previous book.
Like Snape, right? They do a pretty elaborate job of explaining who he is.
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And he turned out to be not the problem with the first book,
but he was definitely a main character throughout its entirety.
Yeah, but you remember a lot about this plot line and you don't seem to know,
you don't remember a lot about his contribution, huh?
I don't think so. So, like I mentioned last episode, I might have some oh yeah
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moments, but I don't recall the name or...
You know, I remember there is a teacher of the dark arts, the defense against
the dark arts, but I honestly thought that was going to be like Snape. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know. Snubbed. Snubbed Snape. Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't... I'm really...
Really looking forward to keep reading yeah so mr.
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So they go out gnoming yep side
note that this is just a funny thing that they just have to like
huck the gnomes over over the
fence and and then wait for them to come back and do it
over again which dave and i had a discussion about how similar this
is to weeding in real life now that i'm a
home homeowner i don't know if you have many weeds in your yard dan but
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that's what it feels like you're just picking them out just to
pick take them out again in a couple weeks that's exactly right yeah yep
where i guess you can try to kill them all but that's a whole different thing
yeah they seem at least nice enough to
not do that i don't know why they don't yeah sorry i
was talking about killing weeds not killing no no no
i i know you were talking about weeds i was just thinking about
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i'm like yeah they did not go that murder route so
yeah i don't you know maybe
this kind of goes to what i was saying in last episode about
like it might still be more so for kids so let's
not scare away the audience with killing these
little no's yeah that's fair mr weasley
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comes home we get a glimpse of what he wears to work which
i think is fun his little ministry uniform is
long green robes his in particular were dusty and travel worn he's complaining
about having a terrible night with nine raids and an old mendugas fletcher tried
to put a hex on me when I had my back turned takes a long gulp of tea I like
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that they call it tea but we know Mr.
Weasley yeah and then he gets a chance yeah he gets a chance oh he has a term
for what was going wrong and he calls it muggle baiting which,
is a perfect term it's so self explanatory.
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He gets briefly excited about the fact that the car was able to fly before he
instead turns into lecture mode.
Just because it was old? Or like, why was he? Because it's been in his garage.
But he hasn't flown it, it sounds like. He bewitched it so that it could fly in theory.
But I guess he had tried that feature. Leave it up to Fred and George to just test it out.
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Right. They're like, we know what he's trying to do in there.
We know it can fly. Right. He's probably logically been like,
there's not really a great time to test that because you live surrounded by
muggles and you're not allowed to have that thing in the first place.
So that would be a misuse.
So we get another lecture this time from Mr. Weasley. And then we get into Ronald's room.
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Nearly everything in Ron's room seemed to be a violent shade of orange.
The bedspread, the walls, even the ceiling. Quidditch
players yeah he's a huge fan of the Chudley Cannons so that's something I think
I learned is that Quidditch is like not just a Hogwarts thing like there are
other matches everywhere else and I did not know that I suppose yeah so I guess
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you know I guess that kind of,
I don't know brings me back to Hogwarts is just kind of like a school and then
there's still pro leagues for quidditch and there's other wizarding stuff that
happens outside the world too i would imagine or outside the world of hogwarts
sorry so i don't know one of those.
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Professional quidditch games yeah yeah
i like thinking
about this bright orange room because it reminds me of repainting my
house when we first moved in and it's clear to me that they painted one
room entirely hot pink including the ceiling so yeah
i had the broncos colors in one of my rooms and
yeah you did yeah bright orange just
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like ron and yeah blue on
one of the walls too so that was pretty wild yeah it
was like that when he moved in everyone he bought a house and
it came with a broncos room and that is
not blue and orange anymore thank goodness thank goodness
just a nice grayish like or is
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it just gray you make a nice song worldly gray
worldly gray yep that's right so we
have some of ron's spell books we get a glimpse at a comic book
called the adventures of martin miggs the mad muggle so
you just get so much like world building here
ron's magic wand was lying on top of a fish tank full of
frog spawn next to his fat gray rat scabbers who were snoozing in a patch of
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sun harry stepped over a pack of self-shuffling playing cards on the floor and
looked out of the tiny window he could see the gang of gnomes sneaking one by
one back through the weasley's hatch.
And that's the end of the burrow. Oh, wait, sorry. We can't say it's the end
until it's your favorite line.
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Harry grinning. Wiley said, this is the best house I've ever been in.
Yeah. Yeah. Ron's ears. I don't. Yeah.
I didn't get that phrase, but it's probably, I don't know. Don't read enough.
His ears went pink. Oh, it's like when you're bashful, you know?
No, I mean, I can get like, based on context, I just, I've never heard that saying before.
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Oh, yeah, that's nice. Good writing. So then chapter four at Flourish and Blots.
So we get to go back into Diagon Alley for the second time in our journey. At least eventually.
Eventually, that's right. So Harry gets an introduction to flu powder and flu travel.
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What do you make of this, Dan? I mean, it's pretty classic, like teleportation
stuff from like the B&B world and whatnot.
You need a reagent, which in that case is the flu powder.
And yeah, an incantation of some sort, which is what he screwed up.
And so we got to do a little side quest.
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But yeah, that stuff was all cool. It was all right in line with kind of how magic works.
So I'm all about it. yeah it's it's healthy for us to understand like how easy
it is to screw this up i think yeah i mean if they they make it seem like it's
just a flashing of a bunch of different scenes,
in your like behind your eyes until you like stop you know like right and then
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if you mess it up you're in the wrong place and i they chose to trust harry
with this and luckily he was at least It's still in the same continent as some. Right. Yep.
So, yeah, he ends up at Nocturne Alley at a store that seems to sell some dark artsy items. Yes.
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Yep. And he runs into some folks. He runs into some folks.
He's kind of, he sneaks into a cabinet, right? To not be seen.
Yep. And where he's able to kind of witness what's going on here.
But we get some Lucius Malfoy and his son Draco walking into the store.
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Just a dark art store, just like it's nothing talking about,
Oh, I need some help finding a place
to keep some items while the
ministry is kind of like breathing down my neck yep well
he said sell though didn't he sell yeah he
was like what are you here to buy today and that's
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right i'm not buying today mr borgen but selling yep so
i think what he's preparing for a raid or
something yeah it seems like he believes that
the ministry the muggle loving fool arthur weasley in
particular is behind what he's
anticipating coming his way gotcha yep yep
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and those during all these poisons might make it appear i
understand sir of course and mr borgen let me see draco
just over here like a kid literally like a kid in a candy store
can i have that that's a withered hand
on a cushion yeah well he's like it was even more
snobby though he's like you told me you'd buy me yeah yeah
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he's like well when do i get my broom room and everything yeah uh
the the dad has some cool his
dad is like you're not even on the quidditch team well you're not even at the
yes at the level where you deserve he seems like one of those tough dads that
yeah definitely is yep definitely draco's probably trying to impress him that's
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why he's such a bully and all the psychology is right there for us to think about boom.
Yeah mr malfoy says i hope oh yeah
well they're talking about the hand of glory i just think it's a cool type
of magic he says that it gets it gives light only
to the holder and he says is the
best friend of thieves and plunderers and here's the some shade i hope my son
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will amount to more than a thief or plunderer borgan mr malfoy coolly because
borgan was like on board right he's like yeah draco's in the right spot like
he's he's cool and yeah he's all like i hope he's better Yeah, exactly.
So dad's kind of a dick. Yeah, dad's kind of a dick.
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So they keep talking. Harry's watching Draco wander around.
Draco then learns about a necklace that's cursed.
He sees a hangman's rope. He sees just a bunch of spooky stuff here. Yep.
Setting the stage for what a spooky, non-ideal place Harry is stuck in.
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But he manages to sneak out of there unseen and who does he bump into but mr
hagrid his best friend hagrid yep who was there for what like slug something
right he says he's there to get some,
slug repellent flesh eating slug repellent that's what
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it was okay yeah he says they're ruining the school cabbages i
guess they only sell that kind of poison you
know it's definitely got the ick sticker on it that green one that
we always put on stuff when we were kids hey yeah i forgot
about that yeah it's like i'm rubbing alcohol yeah yeah like don't drink this
stupid child yeah don't ingest things with the egg sticker for the love of god
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mom didn't think that the child locks were like childproof enough for us yeah
it's like my kids are done okay.
So Hagrid, luckily, is like, oh, okay, well, I'll just take you back to Diagon Alley.
And thankfully, oh, and then Harry gets to explain to him about Dobby.
Which Hagrid's reaction is just like, muggles suck. Yeah.
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Classic muggles. They reconnect. They seem to find Hermione.
As they originally planned, she had wrote them a letter. We didn't really talk
about it, but she wrote them a letter. And they were planning to meet here.
And she's with her parents.
Who are not wizards. Yeah. Well, wizard wizards. That means you and I could go to Diagon Alley.
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If you can find your way there, yeah.
You just got to tap the bricks, I guess.
I wonder who taught Hermione how to get in. She probably read a book.
Probably. Or wrote a letter. You know, wrote a letter to Hogwarts,
something that the boys also could have done. Yeah.
That's interesting, though. That's funny. Yeah. so then of course mr weasley's
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like obsessed with them for kind of the rest of this chapter,
but that is kind of cool to think that there's just muggles just
like in awe walking down the street right that
they are here to buy some books they have
like seven books by gilderoy lockhart that they
have to buy on their school shopping list
let's see yeah all of them by
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lockhart and i don't know and then i don't want to jump ahead but in the last
chapter like is this dude a fraud he like loses his wand to the pixies and i
don't know he seems yeah at one point he's under his desk with those pixies
yeah it's like cat seems to be cowering.
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Comes together again because harry talks about how he he saw the
malfoys in borgen and burks and mr weasley's immediately
like well do they buy anything like because i'm gonna catch him
you know yeah yeah he said scoot love to
get him for something absolutely and then mrs weasley's like basically like
leave him alone just don't go like getting involved with them and he's like
oh you don't think i'm a match for lucius malfoy which is immediately our foreshadowing
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for just a couple pages from now when they get in a literal fist fight in the middle of a storm yeah.
Uh let's see let's see just make
sure we don't forget anything i know you're like very holistic with
your how you remember these chapters definitely yeah we go into they go down
to the vault again it's a little awkward this time with the weasleys because
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harry has to like he's trying to like stand in front of his mountain of money
but he can't he's too small to block how big the mountain is from view.
Right. They didn't, I feel like they didn't elaborate that much about that either.
Like there wasn't really any discussion afterwards, which I guess that'd be
extremely inappropriate, but yeah, I don't know. It just felt interesting.
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It's a little, you got to think the dynamics there were a little awkward and
maybe Harry's too young to really realize.
I mean, he was, he knew enough to know that he was kind of bashful about showing them his money.
Right. But like, They talk openly about how Ginny's getting hand-me-down books,
and we know Ron has hand-me-down robes, and they're going to a second-hand robe shop. Yep.
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Yeah, they just put you up for a couple weeks. It feels like you could,
like, oh, I'll buy dinner or something. I don't know. Yeah.
But I know that the Weasleys would not let him actually buy equipment for their
children. Yeah. So it's gifted later.
Yeah. Yeah, the way it's written, too, makes us uncomfortable.
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I think before it even makes the characters that uncomfortable.
Because she writes, the bag of gold, silver, and bronze jangling cheerfully
in Harry's pocket was clamoring to be spent.
Jangling cheerfully. He's just like, rich as fuck. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Meanwhile, Ron's just gazing longingly at stuff. A full set of Chudley Cannon robes, for example.
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I don't know. It's just like... So it's such an early book to have these like
wealth dynamics, you know? Yeah.
Yeah. Fred and George and they met up with their friend Lee Jordan and they
managed to buy some of these Dr.
Filibuster's fabulous wet start no heat fireworks. Yep. Of course.
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Reckless. Percy buys a book called Prefects Who Gained Power.
They talk about how he's very ambitious. Delicious! He's got it all planned
out. He wants to be Minister of Magic.
Now they start heading for Flourish and Blotts, the name of the chapter. Bookstore.
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Well, yes. Bookstore to get all these books. And there's a huge crowd outside
because Gilderoy Lockhart.
Yeah, classic. Everyone's got to do a book signing.
And literally what other bookstores would be on his tour? I don't know.
Right. Yeah. I mean, it's like, does he do this every year? Like, doesn't that get old?
Yeah, he's got lots of books. so you'd think like at this
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point does just every wizard person have like have
they all met him by now yeah like and
he's addicted to fame which would be annoying but we'll
see how it develops we can actually meet him i mean he's written almost the
whole book list as if he didn't just assign his own textbooks yeah classic college
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professor let's see he's all like calmly Ladies, calmly.
They each grabbed a copy of the standard book of spells grade two and sneaked
up to the line where the rest of the Weasleys were standing with Mr. and Mrs. Granger.
Oh, there you are. Good, said Mrs. Weasley. She sounded breathless and kept
patting her hair. We'll be able to see him in a minute.
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So we do. He approaches.
He tries to get a, let's see. It can't be Harry Potter. And the crowd parted, whispering excitedly.
Lockhart dived forward, Howard seized Harry's arm and pulled him up to the front.
The crowd burst into applause, and Harry's face burned as Lockhart shook his
hand for the photographer, who was clicking away madly, wafting thick smoke over the Weasleys.
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Nice big smile, Harry, said Lockhart through his own gleaming teeth.
Together you and I are worth the front page.
So he's really like milking, like, okay, there's another celebrity.
Yep. We can both get more Instagram followers if we take pictures together.
People are going to do that. Way more likes that way. Yeah.
Man. When young Harry here stepped into Flourish and Blotts today,
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he only wanted to buy my autobiography, which I shall be happy to present him
now, free of charge. The crowd applauded again.
He had no idea, Lockhart continued, giving Harry a little shake that made his
glasses slip to the end of his nose, that he would shortly be getting much,
much more than my book, Magical Me, he and his schoolmates are,
in fact, getting their real Magical Me.
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Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I have the great pleasure and pride of announcing
that this September I'll be taking up the post of Defense Against the Dark Arts
teacher at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.
The crowd cheered and clapped, and Harry found himself being presented with
the entire works of Gilderoy Lockhart.
Classic celebrities getting free stuff. Harry is one of the people who could
afford to pay for the books.
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And he gets a free set but and he's 12
and he knew that though so that's good yeah so he
gave actually he did give him jenny so that is
good so he found a way to make that which they're really just going
for this whole like this whole like uh
crush scene by the way like
come on you've got to give him the jenny like you could have given them to ron anyone
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in the weasley family really but oh he's
right so maybe deep down he's super into
the fact that jenny has a crush on him yeah that's true they do mention he pretends
to not know he pretends and he's all like i'll give her my books yeah let's
see so draco shows up and he pulls and he's mean he says.
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Unexpectedly i'm surprised to see you in a shop weasley retorted malfoy i suppose
your parents will be going hungry for a month to pay for all these.
That's pretty mean. Pretty savage.
Mr. Weasley tries to keep Ron from fighting in here and then Lucius shows up.
Kind of get into it a little bit he reaches into okay let's
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see i'll just read it busy time at the ministry i hear said mr
malfoy all those raids i hope they're paying you overtime he
reached into jenny's cauldron and extracted from amid the glossy
lockhart books a very old very battered
copy of a beginner's guide to transfiguration obviously not
said mr malfoy dear me what's the use of being a
disgrace to the name of a wizard if they don't even pay you well for it mr weasley
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flushed darker than either ron or jenny we have very different idea of what
disgraces the name of wizard malfoy he said clearly yeah the company you keep
weasley and i thought your family could sink no lower there's a thud of metal
as jenny's cauldron went flying,
and they knocked down all the books fred says get him dad actually you know
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what it says here it says there was a yell of get him dad from fred or george
so even the author is just like Like, I don't know who said it, actually.
That's kind of cute that she did that, though, huh? Yeah.
Mrs. Weasley, no, Arthur, no. Gentlemen, please, please, cried the assistant.
Break it up there, gents, break it up.
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And then Hagrid comes to pull him apart and obviously is successful because he's enormous.
Yeah. In an instant, he had pulled Mr. Weasley and Mr.
Malfoy apart. heart mr weasley had a cut lip and mr malfoy had been hit in the
eye with an encyclopedia of toad stools toad stools oh he was still holding
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jenny's old transfiguration book he thrusts it at her his eyes glittering with
malice here girl take your book it's the best your father can give you.
She's so yeah i mean i always am like surprised that that scene really happens
because it's so So like, it's just a funny thing to decide to do is have the dads fight. Yeah.
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But I mean, that kind of furthers the family rivalry, which,
you know, continues, obviously. How could it not?
But yeah, so it's fuel for the fire.
Yeah. We get a strong Hagrid hates him too. He's like, they're bad blood.
That's what it is. Rotten to the core. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, he makes it back via flu powder. It seems much easier than he took it on the way there.
And that's the end of chapter four. Yep.
Which brings then to the Whomping Willow.
Yep. I felt like, and I'll just preface, I felt like this was a pretty long chapter.
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Agreed. To explain one pretty simple event.
You know what I mean? you're so you're just way more big picture you're like
i think there's a lot of importance in the detail yeah but i think that's how
you read when you're excited like you're like,
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well it's already happened time for what's next like yeah
and i think that's what is is making this
fun for me is that like i i don't
know if i've met somebody who has read harry potter who's
only read it once you know yeah so
you're already like whatever I'll get the detail later like let's get
this show no I think
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I'm gonna be that person that's just like how it
works for me I'm looking at overarching that actually
reminds me it's either it's either me oh yes
oh yes yes is she around yeah I
told she she you had a question maybe you have a
question for me and I think now's the time well it's actually completely out
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of the blue because it was about it's about the movie something different it's
about the movie says lauren did i notice any missing characters from the movie
that were in the book one of the the stoner centaur,
but i i think you're asking about someone more important because i don't know
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why i think it might be one of brin's favorite characters oof then I should have an answer huh.
Specifically ghosts more specifically ghosts no the headless guy was there the,
was it like the woman who does the password no she's in a painting oh yeah she's
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a painting it was a ghost well I guess he's technically not a ghost but,
i think y'all y'all got me i don't know i i don't lauren lauren should we tell
him or wait go ahead brin tell him tell me yeah tell me peeves peeves peeves,
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eves wasn't in the movie peeves wasn't in the movie yeah he had somebody hired
to play peeves they had his lines and everything and then they cut him at the
last bit interesting that's a fun fact i didn't know that she didn't know that that's a fun fact,
he's just hired an actor too,
why didn't you want to tell me that both of you i think we're both treading on very,
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they're treading on i think we're just on
eggshells we just want to make sure we don't like spoil i think it's good thanks
okay okay all right noted well you missed that part when they sneak out and
he's like just screaming about kids outside their dormitory at night and he's
being a huge pain yeah yeah okay okay,
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gotcha noted.
So yeah Dan let's summarize the Whomping Willow basically do you want to summarize,
what did you say? does Brynn want to just hop on here?
I don't have any other equipment for her to hop on But what did you say as you left?
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Oh, really? This early? For June? Sorry, Lauren. We're taking a pause here.
Okay. Showing me concert tickets for June. She's like, well, I have you.
Ooh. We got to be careful. Yeah, but we have Blake and Kayla's wedding. Yeah.
Probably but let's just talk about this
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later i'm in the middle okay so do
you want to summarize or do you want my summary of it i want
your summary of it but i want your like try really hard to be detailed but no
no i already have an i already have a hypothesis so okay so there is some detail
the funny summary is that they missed the train so they had to take the flying
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car they They crashed the car and they got in trouble. Yeah.
That's what, that's the short summary.
That's why I was joking about like this chapter five could just be just summed up.
I don't know. I thought the same thing when I was reading it,
I was like, wow, this is a surprisingly long chapter. Yep.
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But what really happened, I guess is kind of up for interpretation,
but I don't remember how early in
the chapter they actually go to King's cross but they
crash because the gate was closed and and
they don't know why the gate was closed because everybody else got on just fine
but conveniently enough harry potter wasn't allowed through so i bet that it's
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tied to if not dobby it's tied to the same kind of idea that dobby was
like hey dude you shouldn't go to hogwarts like there's
you'll be in mortal danger so i think
the same the same assumption safe with
who closed the gate so that
he couldn't go so i think there's something
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to unpack there then the rest of it is them going oh shoot how are we gonna
do this okay no one's here to say no let's just take the flying car so there
that's my like that's my My hypothesis slash understanding, really, I think...
Know there's some some of both absolutely if
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only that invisibility feature had hung on and worked
a little bit longer right it wouldn't have been spotted and
that might have saved them at least partial trouble later
yeah but we learned that whomping willows existed i
feel like i might recollect that a little bit from childhood just
because i feel like yeah a short but kind of
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scary and probably iconic scene yeah it's
pretty cool graphics the way the car beats him up yeah so
for me it's like that might be an oh yeah but I
totally when I when I told you yesterday I was like oh yeah I
forgot how they get back to Hogwarts no I totally did
yeah I didn't remember that they took
a flying car I remember that's right I think I remember
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the scene from Harry getting in the car with Fred George and Ron just because
you know grabbing the ankle or whatever i might remember that but i i forgot
that they brought the car back and that's how they got to hogwarts so yeah crashed
into the tree and made a big ruckus almost got expelled sort of thing so.
Yeah it was made me happy because i was like oh he forgot about this entire
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chapter so it's funny yeah which is good i i'm all about it you know yeah a
couple things i'll point out just because they make me happy i like that we
get another shout out to the fact that
Harry was super jealous of Ron and his home life.
He said, just right away, we get, his month at the borough had been the happiest of his life.
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It was difficult not to feel jealous of Ron when he thought of the Dursleys
and the sort of welcome he could expect next time he turned up on Privet Drive. Yep.
Man, the borough just seems so warm and comfortable.
I like the, we get all the kids.
I said this to David too, but as a family of many children, four children,
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we also would all forget stuff.
I feel like as soon as we pulled out of the driveway.
So they had to return for the fireworks that Fred and George had bought on Diagon Alley.
And then they had to return for Ginny's journal, diary, I don't know.
And what else? I think that might
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be just two. But that's how they got off schedule in the first place.
Yep. So I think when I first read it, I thought the gate just closed because it was like 11.
I was like, oh, well, it closes so that no one else comes in when the train's already gone.
Yeah. I don't know. I was glancing over all the lines where they're like they
can't figure out why it was closed it's so odd I like that Mrs.
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Weasley doesn't seem to notice how big the car is like she doesn't get that
it's bewitched I don't know I don't know what's going on because it's like she
knows it can fly but he's like don't tell her that it's like bewitched to get
bigger inside but then she reaches in and she's like wow these cars are a lot
bigger than you expect from the outside yeah Yeah.
This is Weasley. Tough look. Come on. Pay attention. Yeah.
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Yeah. So the filibuster. Oh, yeah. And then Fred also had to run in for his
broomstick. That's the third thing that they forgot.
So. Okay. Yeah, that's right.
I'm always entertained by the idea that those two get so excited about like,
oh, man, like driving a flying car to school is totally the way to go. This is so much fun.
And then like two hours in, they're just like, boo, this sucks.
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Yep. We could get food and go to the bathroom if we were on the train.
Right. And it would be hard to stay focused as two young boys on where that train is. They're 12.
They're 12. I just want to reiterate that. I can't get over how much they would
have just died if they crashed or ran out of gas sooner.
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Because that thing started sputtering. Luckily, it's exactly when they were getting into Hogwarts.
Words but otherwise like i was joking with david just be another episode of alone,
rod and hay edition right right that'd
be a weird twist but yeah so
we get a close call we get an exciting paragraph where
they're running into the they almost run into hogwarts itself but they
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instead run into the brick wall and as
it starts beating them up that the car itself
seems to be sick of them at this point and dumps them
off onto the ground and then drives off into the forest
so i like that yep so then they peer in when they walk up all limply because
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they get like smacked in the face and stuff they walk up and they can look into
the great hall and they see the sorting hat ceremony and they're missing jenny's sorting.
Later find out it's just another great gryffindor but yes i'd
you know oh that's sad yeah yeah
so instead they get snape snape overhears
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them talking shit about him yep like seemingly unprovoked too because they're
just looking in there like oh look at all the professors oh snape's missing
oh hate that guy and then he's like i'm right behind yeah right behind you let's
go to the dungeons which is actually just his office i learned but yeah we get
some Um, angry McGonagall,
but not so angry as to expel them.
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We learn again, I think we knew this from last book that only the heads of houses
are allowed to like punish their people.
Right. But I got a good reminder there.
Yeah. And Dumbledore, we get calm, but disappointed Dumbledore, which is. Yes.
Really the worst, you know? Yeah. He's not somebody you want to,
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it's someone you look up to.
Yeah. Yeah, so they end up, they don't even let them go to the feast because
they don't want it to be like this grand entrance.
But they get that grand entrance anyway when they get back to the Gryffindor
common room and they get just hoots and howls from everyone who stayed up to
see them come in the door and congratulate them on this badass entrance. Right.
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But I think all it takes is a look from Percy, big brother Percy,
and they just go, oh, we better go to bed now.
Hermione is vocally disappointed in them. She's happy to see them,
but also, like, that was just, you know, that was not smart, guys.
And that's pretty much that chapter. So, that's my trying to make it a little
bit longer version. Yep. Yep.
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Yeah, they don't get any points taken off from Gryffindor. So,
Harry kind of seems to convince them that because it was prior to the start of the semester.
Yeah, you know, I was wondering about that, too, because I was like, can they go negative?
Like in my head i was like can i go negative to start everybody like
off this new year just negative 20 points
or something oh man it got it's got to be a lot
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i mean they get a lot taken off like last year before
they could just get a lot put back on but right see i
don't know if they had points taken off do you think they'd have this greeting though
because that seems to be what the teachers were trying to avoid is them being
seen as celebrities for doing this cool but dangerous thing right but last year
they were shunned when they had lost points for Gryffindor so yeah you might
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have solved it if you just took out points that's my new adult parenting perspective.
Child perspective yeah yeah all right we get just reintroduced to our to Harry
and Ron's roommates here Seamus Finnegan Dean Thomas and Neville Longbottom
they're back together Are you there?
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Sorry, I just got like a ding. Yeah, I got a ding. It sounded like everything
was shutting down. Yep, no, we're good. Just a notification about an update.
Yes. So now that we're in Chapter 6, it's called Gilderoy Lockhart because it's
very revealing about Gilderoy Lockhart.
Mm-hmm. We know he's self-centered, but he proves it even further in this chapter
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so that there's no doubt in our minds.
They get assigned their class schedules in
the morning and just and figure out that they first have herbology or
herbology with the hufflepuffs yep oh you know what happens next though is the
howler the howler you didn't react like that i'm trying to remember the audiobook
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narrator Narrator screaming at Ron at breakfast.
Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. They think Carol can't do anything, but he successfully
brought Ron a howler. Mm-hmm.
This is something that the movie version is really fun with this sort of magic.
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I think that's really well done in the movie. Okay, good. I'll look forward to that.
I like the way Neville tells him to open it and it'll all be over in just a few minutes.
Like, no, seriously, don't wait, because I did that once with one of my grandma's
howlers, and, like, it was only way worse when I did finally open it up.
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Just Mrs. Weasley screaming? Yeah, so she's just screaming, or the howlers.
I'm not exactly sure if she had to, like, pre-record it or what happens there.
Does she choose to do that? That's so embarrassing.
Yeah, and we compared it to dropping a plate on the floor in,
like, a restaurant, and, like, everyone turns and looks at, like,
what's happening. It's like so embarrassing.
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So embarrassing.
Then we go to the greenhouses. They're out there.
They see Sprout coming with a bunch of bandages. She had just healed or like
bandaged up the Whomping Willow. Yep.
And Gilderoy's like, I was just helping her out, but I don't want you running
away with the idea that I'm more adept at herbology than she is.
And it's like huge eye roll. Yeah.
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And she seems like she can't wait to get rid of them. Yeah.
But he pulls harry aside and what does he talk about let's see sorry i'm like
foggy on this section for some reason i was like getting some food yeah i was getting some food too,
let's i'll just sum it just sum it up oh he's all like so i remember it's my
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fault that you took the flying car because i gave you the bug of like how fun
it is to be famous and you're You're out here trying to get attention.
He's like, I can only blame myself for the fact that he like made these choices.
And then one of us. Oh, this is a good spiel that he goes. Yeah. One of us.
He says, okay, I'm going to read this. Okay.
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I understand natural to want a bit more once you've had that first taste.
And I blame myself for giving you that because it was bound to get to your head.
But see here, young man, you can't start flying cars to try to get yourself
noticed. Just calm down. All right.
Plenty of time for all that when you're older. Yes, yes, I know what you're thinking.
It's all right for him. He's an internationally famous wizard already.
But when I was 12, I was just as much of a nobody as you are now.
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In fact, I'd say I was even more of a nobody. I mean, a few people have heard
of you, haven't they? All that business with he who must not be named.
He glanced at the lightning scar on Harry's forehead.
I know, I know, it's not quite as good as winning Witch Weekly's Most Charming
Smile Award five times in a row as I have.
But it's a start, Harry. It's a start.
He gave him a hearty wink and strode off. Harry stood stunned for a few seconds.
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And just like the mouth drop moment where you'd be like, he says,
I was more of a nobody than you are now.
No kidding. He's the most famous.
All that business with he's just in his own head about being
more famous somehow than harry potter
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yeah right you gotta chill we get
introduced to mandrakes next yep which are
little screaming plant babies yep screaming
beats that's exactly right good for
healing they only deal with the babies until
they she can trust them you know you're
just kids after all you'll just be knocked unconscious for a few
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days if you hear these scream but a fully grown one would
kill you so that's a
little dangerous what else happens we get introduced to like another character
we get little hufflepuff guy justin finch fletchley it's just fun to meet people
from other houses that aren't just draco yeah exactly expand i don't know how it goes but
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I feel like Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff have hardly been talked about.
Yeah. Make up 50% of the school. I know. We started to get more breadth of exposure
to these other houses as we go on here.
Okay. But this guy's role here is really to talk up Lockhart again.
So you're starting to get a lot of inputs of like, Lockhart this,
like Weasley, Mrs. Weasley said, Lockhart's so good at this.
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And you hear him at the bookstore and everyone's obsessed with him.
And even Justin Finchley is like, yeah, what a hero.
And so then that takes us into his
class well now he's seen again
because this little boy is trying to
take photos with him this little freshman first
year kid with a camera what's his name colin
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creevy and he's like
i think we get that he comes from like muggle
parents and he's just so delighted to be here he said
he had to kind of convince his dad that it would be nice it'd be convenient to
have a wizard in the family so now he's taking a
lot of photos so that i can show his parents what it's like to be here and
he wants to take a picture with harry now harry's like well now i'm sensitive
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about this because like i've already been called attention grabbing earlier
today right oh yeah colin creevey's dad is a milkman that nice draco jumps on this opportunity Oh,
signed photos? You're giving out signed photos, Potter?
Everyone line up. Harry Potter's giving out signed photos. He's like, no, I'm not.
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Little Colin's like, you're just jealous. He's trying to talk back to Draco.
Ron tells him to eat slugs. Eat slugs. They get this whole...
Here before they go into class yeah
gilderoy lockhart strides up and goes what's all this
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what's all this who's giving out signed photos and harris
like shit all right so pointed the one yeah just getting a lot of attention
he's not trying to get you know well he starts class and he decides i'm gonna
give you a pop quiz based on the reading you could have done before And it's all about him.
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It's all about him, Dan.
It's what's his favorite color, secret ambition.
He fishes for a compliment by asking, what do you think is my greatest achievement?
What's my favorite birthday gift? And he knows exactly which chapter of which
book all these answers are in.
But you know what's even worse and cringier? Is that who knows all the answers?
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Hermione. Hermione. which we'd
expect her to know all the answers to like the regular version it's hard
to blame but yeah she's just
fueling his fire fueling it
for sure when he gets them all revved up he's
like okay so i'm here to teach you about dangerous creatures you
know like i wouldn't be doing my job if i didn't introduce you to something
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like really scary and then he opens it up and
they people laugh out loud i think it's seamus who laughs out
loud because it's just pixies he says
freshly caught cornish pixies and i like that shamus is like class clown he's
starts cracking up but turns out they were right to be a little afraid because
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these pixies cause shout out to unstable unicorns pandemonium yes.
They just go crazy, destroying everything. They lift up Neville,
and he's stuck hanging from the chandelier until it comes crashing down later.
It's a huge mess. It destroys the room.
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It destroys the room, and this guy is just letting it happen.
He's trying to encourage everyone else. He goes, come on, everyone,
round him up, round him out. They're only pixies.
And he's cowering. Yeah, he tries one spell, Papipsky Pesternami.
Tummy but he it has absolutely no effect they
steal his wand and throw it out the window or something too
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right yeah just an
absolute mess yes a man he
just wants to give us some hands-on experience at hermione immobilizing two
pixies at once with a clever freezing charm yeah he
leaves it on them he leaves it on them to clean it
up he just walks out of the classroom when the bell rings things so
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anyway so this is where we get some hints that
you know kill the rise well we
know he sucks that's overly simple but he might not know as many spells as he
leads us to believe right that's what i was saying at the start i think he's
a complete fraud but i don't know how do you convince like an entire university
for lack of better term to like use your book or Or,
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I don't know, I guess as the professor, you do choose,
but he's only teaching one class and all the books on their list were from him as well.
So I don't know if he's just spacey or he's a fraud or what,
but it's odd. How do you think this guy ends up getting the job?
Yeah, I mean, that's the same question I'm asking. Do you think he has Dumbledore fooled? No.
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No. I wonder. I don't know. I don't know. But it could just be like the flashiness
of kind of what he's about.
But I don't think he has Dumbledore fooled.
That's like a pretty strong statement.
I agree. Well, yeah, so pretty much we're right in front of the action getting started here.
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That's good. And you have all this background. And now you think you know the end.
So without further ado, any other predictions about things that occurred to
you reading these four chapters that might happen that you kind of forgot?
Yeah. I mean, you brought up a great question about, you know, how did he get this job?
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Because I don't think JK is going to leave that out.
Just the attention to detail is just too
great everywhere else so yeah i'll have
to think more on that i mean obviously i'll keep reading and
figure stuff out but you know is it
is it some sort of like distraction tactic from
kind of a bigger plot or or because
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i mean that's what we saw in the first book right dan's like
it's distracting me from what i think is the bigger plot
i mean kind of but but
i mean you saw it with the last one too like coral had this whole you know stuttering
thing and then snape was true seeming like he was the one hexing the the broom
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or whatever so i don't know there's a lot to be said for distraction and kind
of like like, illusionary stuff going on.
So, I don't know. We'll see.
Or he's just a little cockier than he's worth, and that's kind of all it is.
Might still be a good wizard, but not as good as he boasts.
(01:03:36):
Yeah. So, we'll see. All right.
Well, I think before we talk again, let me see here.
I think I told David three chapters from here. Okay.
I think that would be good. Okay. Hey, that sounds great.
I'm excited. I wonder what they're called. I could look up the chapter names.
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It's less immersive to do that, though, I suppose. At least seven is Mudbloods and Murmurs. Yeah.
Do you know what a Mudblood is? No. No, I don't.
Well, you tell me in a couple of days, bro. All right. Sounds great.
(01:04:20):
Sweet. We'll talk soon. Love you. Love you too. Talk to you soon.
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