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January 20, 2023 51 mins

Join Sterling Freeman as he sits down with Whitney Tucker and Wesley Tharpe to discuss their professional policy work to make space across our country for all to be “as big as they are.” Whitney is the Deputy Director for Research and Wesley is Deputy Director of State Policy Research at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The honesty and trust in their relationship acknowledges that while they are partners in racial justice work, they are keenly aware, as a Black woman and white man, that their roles are different. That difference in the roles they play has important implications for how they can best honor what each of them brings to the struggle, and the labor required of them along the way.

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