The Elusive Worlds of Bigfoot and Mermaids

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Theory Paranormal. Welcome to Theory Paranormal, season two, episode three.
This is going to be on Bigfoots and Mermaids.
So I know that's different than normal, but we figured why not here at Theory Paranormal.

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Let's talk about something that's land-based and something that's water-based
that both Both are mysterious that have been cited all throughout history and time,
but yet it's still hard to have
a hundred percent verification that people say, Hey, this is what I saw.
So with that being said, welcome everybody. Theory Paranormal. I'm your host Pax.

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Also with my compadre Dalton is here with me and we're going to go over a bunch
of info info concerning both of these subjects, throw out some opinions,
maybe do a little dabbling and speculation,
and we'll have a great time. So how are you doing today, Dalton?

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Same old, same old, my friend. Same old, same old. How are you doing?
Been pretty good. Staying busy. A lot of things going on. A
lot of excitement in my realm of the world but besides
that just still doing the
paranormal thing as you know and listeners
know yeah we got some we got some gear we got

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some gear we got an investigation coming up here about what a week and a half
yep yep as me and dalton stated in a past episode that we actually went and
did a a live podcast at we're going to be going up to brooksville florida to
go investigate the May Stringer house.

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So if you- May Stringer. May Stringer. For anybody that's unfamiliar with that,
doesn't know what that is,
basically it's a home that's passed over ownerships a few times and now it has,
things in it from all different time periods from the bottom of the floor all
the way up literally to the roof.

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Different floors with all sorts of things donated over time.
And there's lots of good activity there and I highly encourage anybody that
wants to know more about it if you haven't already listened to any of our other podcasts yet.
This is your first one. Welcome, welcome.

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But you want to visit the Mae Stringer podcast in season one and that will be
a nice introduction all about it.
Once we do do the investigation, that will be a future episode slash podcast,
and we will go over our findings.
And depending on what type of evidence we get, we might even place some evidence

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back also, if it's of the EVP, ITC categories.
Should be our next episode should be about that investigation.
Potentially. all depends on how much
excitement we have and what type of things turn out
from that so definitely be a great time going to

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be having some individuals with us that have never investigated before so they're
going to get their first introduction to investigating paranormal 101 as i like
to call it and get them up to speed a little bit of the process how it works and what to expect.

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And depending on what happens in the future, we may even bring this individual
on and let everybody have a firsthand account of what this person's experience
was like from their viewpoint and things they experienced.
So cryptids, cryptids, huh, Bigfoot?
Yeah, that's another term Bigfoot can be referred to as cryptids.

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There is a lot a
lot of debate on what the
correct term is for bigfoots
they are noted by multiple
multiple names in north america and i know at least myself a long time ago originally

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when i heard bigfoot i always thought somewhere in the midwest in the united
states that was was what I knew it as,
but believe it or not for everybody listening and for you, Dalton,
if you didn't already know this, there are actually multiple versions of sightings

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of Bigfoots all over the world.
So yes, there it is, which is, uh, which, which is, which is pretty interesting.
And I'll, I'll get into that in a little bit.
We're going to have a little bit of fun here. I'm going to ask you some questions,
Dalton, and you can give me your opinions, and then I will tell you the answer.

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So sometimes we'll do a little bit of Q&A.
So as far as it goes with Bigfoots, we can go off of that particular name itself.
Itself, when do you think that particular mysterious person,

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animal, was spotted here in North America?
Where it was spotted first? Yeah, like what type of time period.
If we had to put a time frame on it, as you will.
Well, some people, they've been reporting for a very long time,

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but I'm going to say in the 50s was when the actual Bigfoot tale came about.
Out okay close close well
as far as it goes and i'm
going to say this loosely because it all depends on where you do your research
at what part of the country you do your research who you talk to and what individual

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that you're speaking with for their speciality of their background with the
the paranormal or a variety of things,
it actually is a multiple range of timeframes.
It could be as early as the 17 to 1800s, all the way to the most recent of the

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1970s, believe it or not.
Well, you said North America, right? Correct. Correct.
Okay. Because my research just took me to where, just to throw in there,
that basically in 1958, there was a journalist, Andrew, I forget his last name.

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I think it's Genzoli or something.
But in the Humboldt times, that's where it actually started because of the lumberjacks
in the Northwest California area were finding footprints.
Prints and it basically started out as a good sunday morning story basically

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a small time story so that's why i said the 50s because back when i was researching some of bigfoot,
they've always most always said it started in like the 50s but the 1700s is
pretty interesting that's why i said it probably goes back a long ways but the
actual i think the actual story.

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Storyline of how bigfoot became famous started in the 50s i don't know if you,
agree to that or not but i'm just saying that's kind of where
i was going with it okay definitely i
can get on board with that for one particular version
of it as as far as it goes just to paint the picture for bigfoots a few different

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names that have been circulated around depending on on the region of the United
States in North America,
you have the name skunk ape is one,
which is more or less hailed from the southeastern part of the country,
surrounding Florida. Which we have here in Florida.
Yeah, surrounding Florida, Georgia, or Alabama.

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And basically, that was about a mythical creature that was very foul-smelling,
physically imposing, and was humongous.
And that particular sighting was basically, supposedly, around 1818.

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And basically people
were fishing and they noticed something kept shadowing them along the coastal
where they were fishing and it was big and it was hairy and it didn't look normal
and that's how that started.

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Now, there actually is another name, a version of Bigfoot, I'm probably going
to butcher this, but it's Folk Monster over in Arkansas.
Good old Arkansas.
Good old Arkansas. Yep.

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Another name for Arkansas, Arkansas. Yep.
And as far as it goes, this is about the 1970s.
And for anybody that ever has ever heard of something called the legend of boggy
creek it was based on that story and that was just another version where this,

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supposed little mythical creature was over seven feet tall and three foot wide
which is pretty big Then there's another version up in Ohio called the Grassman.
And this version was supposedly nine foot tall, 300 pounds.
And this is between the 17 to 1800s. And.

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Last and not least, believe it or not, all the way in the southwestern part
of the country, in Arizona, the Mongolian monster.
Basically, this particular creature was over by the Grand Canyon in the Prescott National Forest.
And they pretty much started having sightings of this creature from 1903 all the way up to 2004.

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And what's interesting is everybody that was noticing things disturb and not
right was, it was pretty much going after large animals.
But the other aspect was, which I always found interesting, is it was also going after plants.

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So it was going after two different styles of food.
Vegan Bigfoot? A vegan Bigfoot and a carnivore Bigfoot, you know,
I guess it depends on the diet and the time of year.
Now, are you familiar with any Bigfoots that are international or that aren't

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comprised from the States, the United States, or North America?
Well, Canada has – in Western Canada, because the Bigfoot story in the 50s,
what I was talking about, was up in the northwestern part of California,
like I said before. And they actually –.

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There's scattered reports of what they called a wild man up there.
And there was always reports of, you know, a wild man here, a wild man there,
but it, it, it doesn't really go into a general discussion until the fifties.
So before the fifties, they were, they were thinking that this was like a six

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foot wild man, just some kind of cave dweller that lived in the woods.
And then it became Bigfoot once they started finding the prints.
Hence the Bigfoot prints that were left behind is why they were calling them
Bigfoot, also known as Sasquatch.
But in Canada, they have the short version, their version of Sasquatch is Sasquettes, Sasquettes.

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I guess that is French for Sasquatch.
So that would would be the the canadian version of
a sasquatch i mean i've heard sasquatch before that's the second runner
up to bigfoot to me you know growing up right
so right and they and and
they and they say you know bigfoot you know and that's and that's funny because

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you're like on the east coast they were six foot on the west coast i believe
you said what nine foot or something yeah it was bigger bigger yeah and they
said that you know bigfoot can be anywhere from six foot I don't believe 20 feet,
but, but there, I mean, that falls back to the, I'm going to go off subject

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just for a second, but that falls back to the giant skeletons for the giants
that they found overseas.
If you're going to get in the 20 foot range, that's going to be a whole nother
entity, but I could see like, you know, six to 10 feet tall for a Bigfoot would
probably be legitimate.
Legitimate well what's interesting you know you're talking about Sasquatch and all that.

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You know, depending on the way you're looking at it, there's a lot of Native
American legends that lend credence to that.
Something else to think about, which is another name I'm about to tell you,
which I do, you're going to be like, oh yeah, is you have the Wendigo,
which is a Native American legend.

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And this is about a spirit that can manifest itself and take the form of other
large animals or often as a Sasquatch.
And there's so we so we now we're going back to skinwalkers now
well that's why i wanted to touch base on
that you know because that's you know that's that's that's pretty much that
you know i already more or less brought it kind of full circle you know we went

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from southeast and then we went over to the northwest and then we went north
and southwest but there's also another name,
that we all heard before also but this is going to be more or less of the international aspect,
is the yeti or abdonnable snowman which is going to be hailed from the himalayas and nepal or tibet.

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And yeah the yeti so this would be like you
have so i've also heard that the
yeti is a form of a a big
footer a fast watch yeah it's just it's just
more of a different climate winter a winter
version it has a permanent winter the winter right
so and i've heard the yetis get pretty big so that would be that you know you

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always wondered like did the yetis come because we're so close to the antarctic
or the you know the north pole or whatever up there you know the the US borders.
Not too far from like the northern islands up
there some of the iceland or whatever's up there i
can't remember i'm not a map guy but you

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wonder if like these yetis came down from the north
well and you know somehow
found warmer weather well to touch base on that
there's actually a a theory slash
legend that back in
the day what ended up happening was exactly

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that that when everything used to be together landmass wise that they actually
came down through the Bering Strait walked across with all the other animals
and and arrived in North America so that's that's And then the warmer weather and the,
you know, the climate change probably turned their fur from white to brown or

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some people said that, well,
some people said that they also have seen Bigfoots that have a brown to like silver tipped hair.
So maybe the silver tip, because if you look at somebody with silver hair, it almost looks white.
So maybe that's part of the Yeti. Yeah, very well, potentially.

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After spending a good chunk of time looking into all this, out of every single
thing that I was able to find,
the most far-reaching, back-to-date concept of Bigfoot ended up going all the way to China.

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And they called it a E-Ren.
And basically another version or naming of it was Wildman, Man-Monkey, Man-Bear.
And we're talking over 3,000 years ago. So that's a long time.

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Well, that's funny that 3,000 years ago they were calling it a Wildman.
And then here in California, when this guy broke out in the 50,
well, 58 or whatever it was, and came up with the Bigfoot story,
that they were saying that they had documents before the 50s talking about a wild man.

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I'm wondering, you remember, because the Chinese came over here,
they brought the Chinese over here to build the railroad, which started in California.
They brought them to California to build railroads. You had to have the East
and West meet in the middle.
Right. So I'm wondering if somebody brought some kind of documentation over
back then because they seen something similar to what was back home in China

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and they started in it. Maybe that came from a Chinese.
Account or. Person. Yeah. Well.
And they landed here in America. Well, what's interesting is in 1977,
some officials ended up reporting seeing one.
And a full-blown government investigation was launched to look into this.

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But nothing ever conclusive came to it back in the day there.
The FBI got involved in that.
No, no. No, this was actually done in China itself when this happened in 1977.
This wasn't anywhere in America.
This was in mainland China. Well, it did.

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Well, okay, but it did, though, because in 76, the FBI started a file on him.
That's that, right? I mean, think about that. What are the odds of that?
That's pretty interesting.
You know? Well, that's why I'm trying to say is when they brought the Chinese
over here from China to – supposedly, that's how Chinatown was created in California.

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Yep. Because if you go into –.
Right there in la or whatever but anyway there's a
couple different chinatowns i think there's one in san francisco too but
the first chinatown was back when they were building the railroads because they
brought all the chinese over here because it was cheap labor for them to build

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the railroads so you're telling me that chinese did a started a report in 77 but in in my,
investigating and research that in 76, the FBI had a file on them.
I don't know. I don't remember exactly when they started the file,

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but in 76, they had a file and they were even down to analyzing Bigfoot hairs that they'd found.
Well, I can see that them trying to analyze the width and composition and structure
and DNA and all that good stuff of all that just to try to put a button on it to figure it out.

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You know, believe it or not, there's actually a sighting also of a Bigfoot and
Down Under in Australia called a Yowie.
And basically this particular legend and went back all the way to 1820s to the 30s.

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And the aboriginal tribal elders and explorers and missionaries would see this.
And believe it or not, the Yowie actually means dream spirit.
So they actually were stating that the Yahwehs that they would see would be
12 foot tall with arms almost reaching the ground, tan, black or gray with white

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hair covering, black skin, yellow or red eyes.
So that's pretty interesting. But on the flip side, in Indonesia,
the polar opposite's happening.
They call it the orange pendek, which translates to pretty much short person or little man.

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Basically lives in a small little remote forest on an island.
And basically people that are part of forest tribes or villagers,
some Dutch colonists, the scientists of people coming from the West have had
witnessing or viewings of this particular Bigfoot.

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And they're only talking two and a half to five feet in height and basically
strong enough to pull up small trees.
So it's interesting if you think about it, for the most part,
all of the Bigfoots from all over the world are going to be anywhere from six foot to nine foot tall.

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But yet on an island that's separated from everything else, there's a miniature
version, a small version of Bigfoot that's only two and a half to five feet.
So would it be fair game to call this big foot actually little foot.

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Little version but you
know well i mean i mean even in even in human being in the human race we have
you know we have people that are six seven foot tall we have people that are
five foot tall we have midgets and dwarfs that are you know three or four foot
tall yep and and you know to To go that route,

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what me and Dalton are trying to say more concisely and clearly is evolution
is a pretty wild and amazing thing.
Things will change over time to suit its environment or habitat or biome,
for my science people there.
And that's just what evolution does. It adapts to survive and overcome and to

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progress and move forward.
Is, which is pretty interesting. Now, when it comes to concrete evidence and
things that people can produce and say, Hey, check this out.
I've reviewed evidence of photos that were blurry.

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I've reviewed evidence of photos or videos that were things kind of moving around,
making a lot lot of noise.
I've seen some things that were moving across roads and it happened in a split
second where if you try to put it in slow motion and you try to break down the frames,
you're not going to even get, you know, two or three images because it happened

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that quick as someone's driving by and they saw something run in front of a car.
The thing that all of the instances that I've been able to see, unfortunately,
that all are in common with one another is it's either either too far away from
the person shooting the footage to be able to clearly identify what it is,

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or it's low light conditions to where you can't see clearly,
you know, which stinks.
I don't know about you, but for me, if somebody presented to me with clear evidence,
4k photo, you know, photo realism, everything was picture perfect.
And it showed me a Bigfoot. it.

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I don't know about you, but I will look at it and that I'll be like,
cool, because I'm thinking if this is real and this is another form of intelligence
that most likely would be, you know,
somewhere along the lines of evolution, you know, with something that I can

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think for itself and, And, you know, have reason, use logic,
survive, have choice, have thought.
Then I'm thinking, okay, well, for whatever reason, this particular species
went that way for evolution.
And our species went this way. So why?

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What is it about their life that has made it to where they live that way?
You know? I mean, who knows?
Well, maybe, you know, they say that our evolution, some say,
like some scientists say that our evolution comes from apes.

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So it may be that because even if you look at cavemen back in the day, cavemen were hairy.
You know, they didn't ever shave. They didn't have the intelligence to do what
we do today, which is shave our body, you know, keeping our bodies. So grooming.
Pretty much grooming. Yes. Okay.

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So maybe these are just like like some
of us there might have been a generation that actually became more of what we
are today where those never transformed into that they just kind of stayed the
way they are I mean I'm going to throw some wild theory out there but what's the name of our group.

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That we talk about theory paranoia keep talking Right.
So the thing is, is when you look at it and you wonder, well, what happened here?
You know, maybe the genes, the the the science behind how we might have transformed.

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Let's say if this is I'm not going to go and I'm not trying to say this is a
definite response. It's just my opinion.
And it's not even my opinion. I'm just throwing something out there to think about, basically.
So you take a hairy ape looking yeti thing and it eventually said they say that

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we come from monkeys so monkeys are hairy then they're apes right so long arms
kind of like kind of like a bigfoot,
they just never finished transforming
into a human or what we are today they're just kind of the same but.
Like I said, it's just throwing it out there. Maybe they didn't have enough
genes or enough of the cells that created us to be who we are to change them.

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They just stayed the same, basically. You kind of understand where I'm going
with that? Oh, completely.
You're just talking about the fact of, evolutionally speaking,
that their physiology and intelligence level, potentially, never kept advancing
through procreation and through generations.

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That it just stayed one level and just perpetually stayed that way.
Right. Look at some humans, though. I mean, look at human beings.
Let's take a look at humans real quick.
Some of them people are hairy i
mean they they don't know why they're hairy they don't know why they grow so
much hair on their back or you know all over their body like you got a guy walking

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across the beach it looks like he's got a you know forest strapped to his legs
you know he's just hairy you got some that you know don't really have a hard
they have a hard time growing hair,
then you have the ones in the middle that are like you know they
got some hair but they're not hairy you know what i'm saying so everything's
kind of weird in question it's it's all in question on what

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you know dude dude is the hairy guy
does he still carry a lot more of the bigfoot gene than the guy that's not hairy
you know what i'm saying that's why he walks around you know and he has a problem
with having a lot of hair so it who knows dude i mean we could you know So, yes,

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at one time, all the land masses were joined together.
And these Yetis, these Bigfoots, they could have traveled from the north,
started in the north in the Himalayans.
I believe it's the Arctic Circle up there is what I was trying to get at.
And they could have came down and traveled all the way down into Australia or whatever.

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Or that could have been the population of the caveman.
Spread out all over the world. And now as we know it, we're all humans.
And those just stayed big foots. They ain't Harry, Harry caveman because they do say like,

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Communication of those things are, are unique in North America.
I don't know what they are in the, in the actual other parts of the world,
but the reports that everybody comes out with is they, they bang logs against trees.
And when they walk through thick brush, I mean, the trees are moving,
like they're moving the trees and you get people that have lived on the edge

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of woods and, you know, very wooded areas.
And they're filming it
like what's that sound and you can hear like like
thick logs banging against trees and then you hear
some grunts and there's some thick logs so you
know to me that's something a caveman would do to communicate i don't know just

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just just throwing something out there you know what i mean yeah i mean i can
definitely see that it when it comes to a lot lot of these sightings and,
and spottings of all these variety of, of Bigfoots for the most part,
they're going to be in deeply forestated areas where they're deep in the woods.

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None of these are going to be like, Oh, look, the garbage guys come and take out the garbage today.
And there goes Bigfoot walking down the street, just, you know,
perusing through seeing what's, you know, for lunch today in the garbage cans.
It doesn't work like that. it's it's
always either a one-off someone driving down a
road at night or somebody

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walking through a nature trail or a park or being in the woods somewhere and
then hearing a noise or seeing an image it makes me wonder how many people actually
have seen these things that never were able to get any type of evidence.
I mean, as I spoke earlier in this podcast just now,

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that hundreds of years have went by and even thousands of self-discovery and
people reporting it to different levels of their food chain of their elders
or fellow people that they talk to that of what they saw. all.
But if there's more out there than what people could report,

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who knows what we're really missing?
You know, I mean, we just now became in a technological age in the last hundred
years to be able to document with photography, to be able to record sound.
Able to do video those are the three major ways right there otherwise we go back 100 years,

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actually we go back 100 150 years from right now and we're in the very cusp of still imaging,
and in video and you know the the some of the first videos happened in the 50s
as well when you In the British Columbia,
you had William Rowe, who came out, I believe it was in 1955,

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claimed he saw a partly human, partly animal creature while hiking on the Micah Mountain.
And basically he
filled out an affidavit in 57 that
the creature was six feet tall covered in
brown silver tipped hair with thick arms reaching down to his knees broad feet

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etc etc and so his his thought first before he even decided because he filmed
it in what 55 and then filled out the affidavit in 57 i think those timelines are correct Yeah,
he was over by Alberta from Edmonton.
Right. So –.

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Thought process was there was a movie out there was some kind
of movie company out there making a movie and that
what he saw was an actor made up to
look partly human and partly animal but he wrote
in his 57 affidavit but as i
observed it i decided it would be impossible
to fake such a specimen of that size and and basically its characteristics was

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more animal like so if you i mean you look at that guy and then you go you go
a little bit later into the,
you know into the years where the fbi was involved and then and i believe it was,
uh what was it roger gitlin or something
roger patterson oh roger patterson

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and robert gimlin they released their video
which became famous in 67 supposedly showing bigfoot northern california why
everything leads to northern california i mean the northwest is famous for its
lush forests and landscape and mountainous well redwood you got the redwood up there you got,

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isn't the redwood forest in northern california i believe so and those trees are like huge.
But you know to go i'll tell you something man is is one of a it's a well-known
investigator I had the chance to do a couple of investigations with him.
I won't mention his name, but he's a well-known investigator.

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And when we're talking about ghosts and spirits and stuff like that,
always somebody pops the question, well, do you believe in Bigfoot?
Says well let's let's take a look at that and he
goes you know you walk up to somebody in.
A bar or a restaurant or whatever just a gathering place
and you go hey do you believe in aliens and they

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kind of look at you like it's within question
right like they give you the look whether you're going
to get a yes or it's within question right so that's the look
you're going to get yeah and then he says well you believe in
ghosts and you're going to get the same kind of thing
you're going and you're going to get a yes or you're going to get what else in one's question
you know he says i don't know why but every

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time i go do you believe in bigfoot they all laugh so why
is bigfoot so funny and he says i'm
going to tell you something he says my uncle lives
in wisconsin and wisconsin is known
for being one of the most populated states
for deer and he said
how come any time of the year you could

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be driving down the road and deer is everywhere boom boom your
people are running into them or they're running across
the road or doing whatever but when hunting season comes around
you can't find one and he
said if you figured you're in a state that has the most pop
is is a state that is the most
populated state for deer and when hunting season comes around you cannot find

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one deer any other time of the year you can see them so he always says don't
Don't you think that Bigfoot thinks that it's always hunting season and they've
been around for so long, don't they?
So they know how to avoid humans or stay out of contact as best they can.
So, but he says, yeah, I never can understand why people laugh at Bigfoot because

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it's a Bigfoot is just as real as UFOs or spirits, ghosts, right?
It's all paranormal. So, one
of the things that I always find fascinating about Bigfoot is this theory.
For anybody that knows about the paranormal, or may not, I'll put out a little info real quick.

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Back in the day, occultism, or spiritualism actually is the better term for
it, started getting very popular and prevalent back in the late 1800s.
People would do fake seances. They would take photos,
make it look like spirits are coming out of their mouth, but they would use

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cotton and different things to make it look like a spirit's leaving their body
after they were possessed by a loved one.
And the whole purpose of spiritualism was basically an idea,
a concept, a viewpoint point slash on the paranormal world, the afterlife, more or less.

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And people would go around and.
People into thinking that the seances were real and doing all these things to make a quick buck.
Now, the reason why I bring this up is this, is when that came around coming
the time of the ages, right before the 1900s or so, people didn't know better.

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And they were pulling fast ones on people to make money, take advantage of people's
in a sense, but also to play into what this new and upcoming,
I don't want to say buzzword is, but what this new age thought process was.
Now, the reason why I put that story out is this, when you think of Bigfoot,

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you know, besides maybe a tourist trap somewhere in America,
wherever they have them, you know, where there's a legend of Bigfoot and they
have their little store and however they do it to get some local sales and all
that and help out the economy.
I've never really seen or heard of anybody crying wolf and saying they see Bigfoot

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and throwing it out there to hype up the media or to do it just for fun to get attention.
If you honestly think about it, you know, back in the day, I could see if depending
on the hierarchy of wherever you grew up or if you had elders above you or,

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you know, this was hundreds of years ago and it was a mythical,
excuse me, a mythical story to keep the kids out of the woods at night from
animals. balls, sure, all day long.
Or if it was something that you couldn't identify, so you would make up the
story because you knew there were bears or whatever the case was.

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Oh, it's Sasquatch again, making that noise at night.
But the reality is this, anytime you see anything in present day about Bigfoot, it's exactly that.
It's what we found, here it is.
There's not really a major Oh, once again, you know, the two brothers that like

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putting jokes out there and like messing with people did another fake Bigfoot story.
What I'm getting to is Bigfoot for the most part.
People produce things or they say, Hey, here's where it's at.
That's it's point blank.
There's no gimmick about it, you know, and this day and age now we're trying

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to get, you know, a quick like, or to get somebody to look at a page or, you know, watch a video,
you know, without a doubt, what'd it be surprised that
people were faking the funk as I
call it just to garner attention or
get get some some activity for their
social media but i just don't

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see people outwardly going out
of their way to say hey look what i found you know
it's fake everybody for the most
part that i've seen has always been dead serious everybody has
the same demeanor you know and think
about that if that's the case well you do
you do and you do have the like you

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have the guy and and we're not getting paid
to promote this guy but you know the guy i'm talking about down in the everglades has
a skunk cake store and he has actual photos
of skunk apes wandering through the everglades but i remember that time when
those kids i think it was kids or somebody they created uh because you know
the first of all when you're when you're when you got lumberjacks going up there

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northern california cutting trees and stuff and they're stumbling across across,
you know, size 16 feet.
Yeah, these humongous tracks. That doesn't make sense.
Right. That's a big boy. So, and they casted them, like they poured the casting fill in there.
Yeah, the casting mix to be able to see, and they could clearly see it wasn't

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a depression of a bear or any animal that people know of.
So it's like. Right. It looked sort of like a human foot, but it wasn't. Yeah. Yeah.
I remember years ago, if I mistake, you know, call me out if I'm wrong,
but I think years ago, there was some kids that created a, a foot and they had

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it on a pole and they were walking through certain areas and stomping,
you know, pushing that foot down the ground, make it look like Bigfoot was wandering.
I think they got caught or something, but I remember vaguely hearing that somebody
tried to fake a Bigfoot presence for some reason.
But anyway, it was, but you're right.
Most of the time, I mean, even though people laugh, like, like my buddy,

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you know, he's not really my, well, he's a friend, I should say, an acquaintance.
You know, when you, when you hear him talk about it and he's pretty serious
about it, when he says, why do people laugh when you, he said,
go anywhere. See, but that's the way anywhere you want.

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And everybody's like uh-huh yeah you know kind of chuckle and get back to their
business and you're like no this really happened you know right it's it's like
ghost man when when when you used to talk about ghosts or spirits before it
came out on you know on tv was big yeah,
on the big screen and you know basically like i said.

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It's the same thing so what i'm going
to do is put out in the universe of bigfoot and he's come out and really show
himself because once that happens because then nobody
will laugh no more because i'll be like oh my god it's real what happened
to ufos and aliens same thing right it's it's like
you talked about ufos and aliens and everybody laughed

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in your face until all of a sudden now what's that in the
sky i don't know it's an unidentified object so what
about these abductees you know then so when
that came to an actual light people stopped laughing ghosts
and spirits were the same way like i just said until
the till the big screen came out with with the
the paranormal shows that actually the one show that

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that are that i know acquaintances of
they did it the right way they tried to debunk it because
if you came right out and said this is a ghost you know everybody's like
yeah okay it's tv but what they did was they came out
and debunked it to the point where they can
start saying okay now we're getting paranormal activity because
they tried to disprove it and then when they showed people you can't

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disprove that no well then people believed so i
tell i tell my my acquaintance my he's a well-known investigator i said dude
it's it's one of those things where bigfoot has just got to come out and make
a presence yeah and people will stop laughing because look at everything else
they laugh that don't laugh at. That's why they do that.

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That's why when you ask them, do you believe in aliens and UFOs?
Oh, yeah. Or they'll just look at you. You believe in ghosts and spirits?
Oh, yeah. But when you say Bigfoot, that's the last thing that somebody has
not presented to the world.
We've seen the blurry photos like you mentioned. We've seen the blurry videos.

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And you actually Obviously, you have Bigfoot hunters and you have these videos
now of what is supposed to be a Bigfoot.
So we just need Bigfoot to make an appearance and everybody will stop laughing.
It'll be a legit reality. So with that, I'm going to jump on into this.

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Let's change shift gears and talk about mermaids and mermen.
It's the polar... Mermen. Mermaids and mermen.
I'd rather just talk about mermaids.
So as far as it goes, though, on the polar opposite of it, mermaids is literally

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the yin to the yang to the Bigfoot.
Because mermaids are the aquatic version of the mythical creature that supposedly
have been sighted all throughout history of time,
but yet nobody's been able to produce real evidence.

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There was always a what if or a
sighting of seeing either
male or female things swimming in
the water which i find pretty
interesting i mean i look at it like this you
know our and i'm probably gonna get messaged on this you know someone fact checking

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me which is more than fine i'm just throwing a number out there but i believe
it's it's like i don't know like 78 is the water mass to land mass ratio or
something like that but you would think with that much.
That the human race has done throughout the dawn of time that there would be some concrete,

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I don't want to say evidence, but bona fide sightings or something to where
they could say, hey, I saw this over this part of the world or I saw this over
in this part of the world.
Well, actually there has been. There's been from divers to explorers.
You got to remember, like I've mentioned in a previous podcast,

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there's so much of the ocean that
we have not explored the depths of the ocean
oh yeah now so when you
when you have divers and explorers you know
they've seen them they said they've seen them you know and it's and
you go back to second century in

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the second century of gaul they were
saying that mermaid corpses were found washed up on the
beach and the governor of gaul wrote a
letter to the emperor augustus about these creatures
washing up on shore back then so
it's it's not it's not something that started recently it's it's basically there's

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been claimed as far as back as the second century a.d you know one of the interesting
things and i just like this particular nugget of a what if.
But one of the earliest mermaid legends appeared in syria around 1000 bc when the goddess,
atar goddess dove into the lake

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to take the form of a fish and as the gods there would not allow her to give
up her great beauty only her bottom half became a fish and she kept her top
half in human form which i can see that because now you're going into greek
lore yeah which is the gods You're talking about the gods, right?

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Yeah, that I mean, but, you know, you do have a confliction,
though, because some say that mermaids are, you know, like there's been tales
of because you go back to the pirates, even even Blackbeard's logbook in 18th century.
He has a mention of mermaids in his logbook. Oh, yeah.
And he had he avoided he avoided the waters known from mermaid sightings because

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they were known to serenade the sailors to the edge of the boat and then they'd
pull them over. And I guess that was lunch.
And so, you know, you're talking about a goddess of beauty compared to,
well, I guess there's a yin and a yang, right?
So the evil luring mermaids that would lure all the sailors to the edge of the

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boat so they could drag them overboard are the yang to the yin of the beautiful
goddess that they only allowed half of her to be.
Well, just to touch base on that, as far as it goes with her, we actually misspoke.
She wasn't anything with the Greek goddess as far as it goes.

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For her, she was coined and known as the Great Mother and a fraternity goddess
of the earth and water, basically to be considered the main goddess to be worshipped.
And basically she was over where ancient Assyria is and later all over the Mediterranean.

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So she is actually for the most part with the lore and everything, um.
The first instance of the mermaid and we're
talking three four thousand years ago before the
fact so right so
how did how i wonder how i never did

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like research that part so
i was wondering how the maybe the the bad
mermaid came about because well we have i
did i did a lot of the we haven't talked about the
different types of the mermaids yet though there's there
well okay this is what you're leading to you know right because

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what i well my research went under blackbeard christopher
columbus so like blackbeard i mean he was so terrified of the mermaids he instructed
his crew on several voyages to stay away from certain chartered waters that
he called enchanted because the mermaids in these areas and the crew members
they you know they reported also And then 1493,

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you had sightings from Christopher Columbus.
He claimed the mermaids he saw were not beautiful creatures.
Historians claim that, well, they claim that he saw was manatees.
I don't know how you can mistake them.
So let me throw some things out here real quick to give people to think about
before people start envisioning and daydreaming about ugly manatees.

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Well i don't know how you mistake a mermaid as
a manatee anyway so here's here's one
thing i want everybody to think about right now okay as you
just heard the majority of these stories besides present day if anybody ever
submits or has documentation of it we're talking in times when people traveled

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the oceans of the world they were in wooden ships no ac except for the the wind blowing,
the sails, stale water,
food that was rotten, sea salt everywhere.
And I guarantee you a lot of times people unfortunately either passed away from
not eating enough or drinking enough or from disease.

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But the other thing people do when they get dehydrated and lack of water to
their body, they start going into a mini shock for lack of dehydration, which is a real thing.
And if it gets bad enough, one of the things that happens is people start hallucinating.

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Start seeing things or even hearing things. And it's basically your brain playing
tricks on you because it can't function normally.
Now, one of the big things that the captains would always do is they would have
stories as precautions to remind people of things.

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Like for instance, if ships will go down over a certain part of water,
you know, so far out from land, then they could
blame it and say oh it was mermaids but the reality
is the water could have been a lot
higher there with the reef system being higher and they could be running aground
smashing their ship and then people drowning but they're not going to know that

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because they didn't have so much equipment back then but they come up with these
stories as warnings to people and we all all know how the telephone game goes.
You tell somebody the number one, they pass the number one to the next person
next to them. And you go down a line of succession.
By the time you get to the 20th person, it's going to be like number 1,243.

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And you're like, how do we get that from originally being number one?
So that's in a way what I think potentially was how the quote unquote quote
evil side of the mermaids happened but i'm gonna go over this nice little list i compiled,
some of the mermaids well let me say this because christopher columbus said

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they weren't attractive,
because they had more of a masculine look now would that be the mermen potentially
i mean think about it if you want to play devil's advocate you're looking down
at something and if you're You're in one of those big massive ocean liner wooden ships,
you know, that 60, 70 feet high up in the sky and you're looking at chop water,

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you're going to see nothing more than an upper body literally from the shoulders up.
Hand. So to be able to see distinguishing features and to be able to say is
it male or female, if that was the case, good luck.
You know? Well, I would say that the good looking ones were the mermaids and

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the uglier ones were the mermen.
Because he said they had a more masculine look to their face. There you go.
So here's... Maybe that's for Tash. Here's something for you.
There is different cultural.
Denotations of mermaids and

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mermins like for instance the otter
manor is a type of elven mermaid that
hails from the netherlands okay but then
if you went over to the greek
side of the the house then you
have the caminae which supposedly

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went up and basically came
through wells and fountains then you
have france and the
celtic people who heard of something called the
corrigans which is a different type well in
the greek mythology you also had near reed
which is a type of water nymph yep and then you had they also the other name

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for a mermaid would be siren which also comes from the nymphs and the goddess
like niad or i can't pronounce it but it's n-a-i-a-d.
Niad yeah there you go so here's something for you that i i actually found this
pretty neat And I wish I would have been able to be local so I could make me

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some money and hand this in.
So believe it or not, there is a place that once upon a time.
A beach in israel basically somebody

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wanted proof of a
mermaid and they said if you give me proof of a mermaid there is a million dollar
reward for the footage this is in 2009 and it's like wow what does this person
know that the rest of us don't that was able to put up that money,

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you know i mean i could only it might not be what it might not be what he knows
or doesn't know he just he wants to know if they're real yeah he's willing to
put up the money to he's willing to put the money where the mouth is you know
okay you say all these sightings of mermaids have happened,
show me one i'll pay you a million bucks over in ireland it's marrows tales

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of the we folk folk or fairies is not surprising,
but they have their own versions, you know, but on the other side of the house,
basically they had soul stealing Irish mermen and mermaids that would get sailors
and trap them in pots and take their souls.

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You know, the thing that I find interesting about this is it's one of two ways
either playful or they're out to get you that's it like over in.
Scandinavia over by the baltic sea over with all those countries it's either neck or knock.

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And nixie is another version
in the germanic lore basically shape-shifting
lure people and then drown them i mean the list goes on and on and on and on
and on with all different cultures having everybody's own version and opinion

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of what a mermaid or a man is and what they do.
Well, you were talking about... Go ahead and finish what you're saying.
I'm sorry. No, it's okay.
I was going to say, I think it's interesting though, you know,
as I originally started out this segment and after we touched base on Bigfoot and I said it again,

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the fact that you have two such prevalent folklore things that are mysterious,
that have captivated and brought the world's imagination together and made it
to where it influences society.
It influences free thought.

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It makes people pause depending on what their mannerisms or behaviors were,
depending on what their lives were, of what they were doing and where they were
because of stories, because of warnings.
You know, one.
You wonder about the warnings, though. I mean, like I said, you have the yin

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and the yang for everything.
Thing i mean look at look at snakes you have
snakes that are non-venomous and you have snakes that are venomous yin
and yang you have different animals
that have a good version of their side and then you have the same
animal that might have a bad version of their basically almost the
same animal but just a bad boy version so we

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obviously know in evolution the yin and yang theory is pretty much a fact oh
that is all there's always opposite yeah there's always a counterbalance there's
always an equal there's always an equal I mean that's one of the crazy things
about the world that we live in for every single,
thing or problem that we have for the most part that's induced that affects

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health there is a cure or preventative that has grown or that can be made from
things that are freely in this world,
everything has balance you pretty much need it that's what I'm getting at is
balance balance. Yep. You know, and yeah.
It's interesting that way, but the, the grand scheme of what I think about people

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and life worms and mermaids in the ocean, I think of it like this.
Have we ever really seen anything mermaid wise? No.
Have there been things that have washed up on shores that
have had skeletal semblances of
human form you know with arms

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or upper torso and then something that looks like a fish in the back yeah things
have happened like that before but well you know you know about the japanese
encounter in 43 which one where was that at were they on the k islands okay in indonesia,

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they had multiple encounters with mermaids in 43 the villagers would call them
orang, ikan or something,
ikan could be ekan or however they would pronounce it in their language so in
Malay orang means human and ikan means fish.

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So hence the orang ikan and so
the soldiers they were sharing
their stories basically while they were on patrol this
sergeant taro hariba or
whatever i can't pronounce his last name he was stationed for a time in the
k in the k islands if that's how k-e-i so k-e-i or whatever he instructed the

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village chief to inform immediately if any orang ikan were captured because
these fishermen were They were always out there, I guess, throwing nets,
and they would have sightings of these mermaids.
And so finally, one was captured, and when the sergeant, he laid eyes on what

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he described as roughly four foot nine inches in tail,
pinkish skin, human-looking face and limbs, spikes along its head, and a mouth like a carp.
To get the scientific community involved to validate the findings,
but nothing ever happened. I can see that.
Something like that, and this is during what time period?

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43, so that'd be, what, World War II? Yeah. That was right around World War II when it sparked up.
You know, that in itself was something that momentous and big.
I could see why nobody wanted to touch that with a 10-foot pole and keep it off the books.
In that time or era, yeah. Yeah, just the science wasn't there.

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We think our science of today's age and understanding of modern medicine is
top-notch, but everybody think back to the 40s and 50s and look at where they were.
That's how we think we are right now with our medicine technology,
but they thought they were at that same level back then.

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Who knows where we're going to be in another 50 years from now, 70, 80 years from now.
Well, you know, in British Columbia, they threw out a $25,000 reward for one, too.
I can see that. You know, I'll say this. This is my theory.

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For the place that we live in to be predominantly water,
I would not be surprised if there was some sort of life form somewhere that
is in the deep bowels of the ocean that potentially might be some form of intelligence,
whether we understand it or not.
I mean, from what I understand, we can't utilize our own rules of logic because

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everything that we have is governed under the thought process of the way the human's physiology is.
Our physiology is made to be land only.
Our lung capacity, the way we breathe, everything. Everything of the ocean and

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in the waters is made for that biome and that environment.
Only certain things can go as deep as they want to go because the pressures
that are exerted on their bodies and their frames, it just depends.
Well, you take it back to our alien conversation and where I mentioned that

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a lot of aliens have been videoed coming out of the oceans and the lakes because
you do supposedly have mermaids that live in the rivers and lakes.
Well i mean look at it so look at it
for what it is what's the one place that we
can't go because we're not built for it i mean
that that makes perfect sense exactly but that's what i'm well that's

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what i'm saying so are these mermaids just alien visitors that
have lived underwater for so long because
of trying to hide from us that they just pretty much
you know became the best way that
they survive and swim is to be
able to come half fish and basically half
humanoid type well you know creatures

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you know here's here's the cool thing that
you just popped in my head everybody is always so fixated and driven to look
at the evolution of humanity humans you know some people talk about the power
creation the big bang theory some people talk about other aspects religiously of creation.

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Some people talk about it via science and biology.
Who's to say that our world isn't inhabited by other things that aren't even
from this place that we call earth that are from somewhere else that have just
manifested or changed over time. You know, it,

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And then you can look at, I mean, yes and no.
So you can say, okay, there's meteors that come in this, in our atmosphere all the time.
We have meteor showers all the time. So let's say some foreign organism or cell
traveling on that meteor, you know, because you do have like in the ocean,

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you do have stuff that attaches itself to other fish.
Like you look at whales and you got those, one of those things are that they
clamp onto the side of them basically.
Yeah. They're, they're smaller fish that clamp onto the side and eat the bacteria
and do different things.
They're acting as a symbiote basically living off of.

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Right. So what if, so, right. So what if, what if this meteor,
you have this organism or cell that's trapped, you know, that attached itself
to a meteor came down, landed in the ocean, bam, here's a whole nother speed.
Because there's still, like, in China, Japan, and even in Australia,
I see reports of them fishermen netting.

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Well, let's just walk it all the way up to the edge of the U.S.
Where these netters, they're netting fish.
They pull out and they go, well, what the heck is that?
I've never seen a fish that looks like that. And it's some kind of weird fish
that happened to crawl in there because, you know, they're there,
you know, might be doing crab or something.

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And it's it's just that way.
So my thing is, is like if you got meteors crashing in the ocean all the time,
what's it what says that there's something not attached to that meteor,
this alien and then boom creates that.
Or, like I said, we already have aliens living under the depths of the oceans,

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and for them to travel around...
Have been able to transform half their cells as as
fish for speed etc for travel because that's
how fish travel they have fins and then
the top half being humanoid because let's say
this thing pops up near a boat like you said you can only see from the head

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to the waist you're not as freaked out you are kind of because here is this
thing coming out of the ocean but it kind of looks human you Your mind is playing like,
okay, what should I diagnose this as?
What am I going to say this is?
But if it just popped up as an alien with big old black eyes and sharp fangs

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and crap, then, yeah, you're going to be freaked out.
You're going to try to kill it. But if it looks like us in a way and it comes
up and it acts friendly, you're going to kind of be in awe, like,
oh, my God, what did I just see?
Until it shakes your hand and pulls you underwater and tries to kill you.
Right and either takes your soul or just has

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you for lunch but you know like everything else in the ocean so
it's it's you know so my
thing is you know yeah we mermaids have been
around for such a long time the well
the tales of mermaids have been
around for such a long time that it just
kind of makes me wonder because we're we're

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you know what i like what i like that we're doing is you're
pretty much trying to piece it together in our
own way not that it's fact or anything this is just
our own way of trying to throw it out there and say hey
what what is it did anybody think this or that because nobody's
out there really dissecting this
stuff they're just going yeah there's a mermaid oh there's a

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dead body of a mermaid or like in british columbia
canada a group of tourists on a ferry
they reported seeing one with silver
blonde hair and she was eating salmon and seemed
to enjoy the waves crashing on her tail and local city
offered 25 000 reward for the mermaid but no one came forward but you know it's

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it's like okay here's the tail of a mermaid sitting on a rock eating a salmon
you know doing whatever you know it's it's then you have the scary tales of
the The sailors talking about them pulling them overboard, even in what was it?
Pirates of the Caribbean. Then they have mermaids that were,
that would put you in a trance and pull you overboard and take you down to the depths of the water.

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So, so, you know, it's, but you know, you can go from goddesses to gods and
Greek mythology, or just a goddess of some kind of mythology to, to, okay, well,
if that's the case, then. Thank you.
Came from that but also with the

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meteors that crash on this earth or suggesting
that aliens live live in the depths of the
ocean the fastest way they can travel is
to be pretty much like a fish without flying a ship through the
ocean right so yeah you know
just just things to think about you know where these because you
know you could you could say like bigfoot okay we went from land to of water

(01:14:16):
we went from cryptid cryptid to mythology with mermaids but actual mermaids
have been seen there's reports of being seen there's reports of bodies washing
up in gaul back when augustus ruled.
You know blackbeard got it in his logbook and which was an actual pirate of

(01:14:37):
the seas christopher columbus has seen it so again i'm i'm gonna just lean on more that,
mermaids are most definitely a real thing but again
it's got to be a bigfoot thing they have to just come show themselves
you know blatantly to somebody to
say hey here's here's something that's you

(01:15:00):
know here's one right here it's real and people won't
laugh at it yeah yep i could definitely see
that you know at the at the
end of the grand scheme of all this there's one
thing that's very prevalent and and true
is they are both very big i guess i'll say superstitious but very real things

(01:15:28):
that people have experienced in their lives at some point in time throughout
Throughout the history of man and woman.
And look at all the different ways both creatures have influenced societies.
Between stories, labeling individuals as goddesses, you know,

(01:15:49):
of either having nice, soft stories of something pretty and simple and easy,
or something that's scary.
I mean, at the end of the day, that's what stories are.
They're either to act as a warning or to be something that's informative that

(01:16:12):
passes information on from one point in time to another.
That was the whole purpose of stories back in the day.
Now we just have certain things we can watch you know on whatever apps and watch tv,
that's hollywood for you right so well you get the folklore i mean it's it's

(01:16:37):
it's you know you can go to any kind of lores and legends in different areas.
They're going to have different tales and stories of, of what they,
I mean, but the thing is, I mean, you've had, I mean, you know,
I could research sightings up to 2012 in Zimbabwe or whatever,

(01:16:59):
Zimbabwe, where they were building a dam and it scared the workers and spooked the workers that.
Superstitious stuff. You know, basically. Right. But they were,
they were sighting mermaids.
Yeah. and so that the village
teams were going to perform rituals and to rid the
mermaid but the workers still refused to go back and work

(01:17:20):
but they eventually flew foreign workers in to finish the project but to their
dismay the workers had the same experience so how do you explain that when you
got locals working on this dam and they refused to go down there because there's the mermaid creature,
basically being a pest to

(01:17:43):
the workers because you're damming up the very river or whatever that this mermaid
swims in and so those people leave and they fly in foreign workers like a whole
another country of people another crew to finish the project another crew from another country and.
To the dismay of everybody these workers

(01:18:06):
they get the same experience and also
refuse to finish the project to this day the dam
remains unfinished so how
do you explain stuff like that you can't i mean it's like the
lock this monster i guess you know people have that's a
whole nother story but you know you get into the lock this monster some
people say they've seen it some people will claim this

(01:18:29):
that and the other i mean it's you know is it real you
know who knows it's it's another one of those storylines that
what you keep following but you never right but you never see any like actual
proof of you know like a clear photo of it or anything that says you always
got somebody filming even today like their cell phone is filming their selfie

(01:18:53):
in the background something Something comes out of the water.
Well, that could have been a humpback whale, could have been anything, you know what I mean?
Because it's, you know, but it's all, I guess you bear it down to Bigfoot, mermaids.
I guess it's just going to fall like to anything else. It's going to be what
you believe until you have an actual clear sighting of one.

(01:19:18):
Or experience. that can or experience
that you can capture yourself now that you know we all carry phones and some
kind of recording device go pros and you see whatever you see you hit it right
on the head and i know you can definitely attest to this and i know i can when

(01:19:38):
i got into the paranormal world,
it wasn't by choice earlier in life i had experiences and i was just like whatever over.
It didn't freak me out or whatever. I just let it go.
And then later in life, it came back around.
And the experiences I had.
Wasn't like, oh my God, the world's over in my brain. It was just, okay, so this happened.

(01:20:06):
This stuff is real on a certain level.
And am I going to be prone to experiencing more of this or not?
And ended up being the latter part to where I was and had more experiences.
But the reason why I bring that up is going back, like you said, to the evidence.
Sometimes people will account of experiencing

(01:20:27):
something more than once you know sometimes
unfortunately people like telling stories for the attention that it garners
and that's it some people tell the stories because they just want to get the
info out there some people tell stories because they want to get the fame but
out of everybody i believe in the the paranormal world, for the most part,

(01:20:51):
that really puts their information out there,
I believe they do it with the right foot forward.
They just want to let people know, hey, here's what happened.
Because for anybody that's listening right now that's ever had a paranormal
experience happen to them, it's personal.
It's not something that anybody gets to pick or choose.

(01:21:14):
It just happens. And when it does, it's a matter of, was somebody else with
you? Did they experience the same thing?
Did you have a tape recorder running? Was there a phone on?
Was, you know, anything recording video camera or not? Did it show anything?
And it's just about saying, hey, okay, yeah, I was with you,

(01:21:38):
Dalton. We investigated.
You said you heard somebody talking, but when you did, I heard a noise of the
floorboards creaking, coming torches, you know, and you're saying you heard
something getting louder.
So I'm there with you on that. You know, I think if anything,
more than anything else in the world of everything

(01:21:58):
between the paranormal and experiences and everything people
just want to be able to validate what they went through
and say yeah this was real because it's unique
and when you know not as
it is it not it's not about also the uniqueness it's
them not only validating but accepting what they just saw or heard because it's

(01:22:22):
also a fear factor yeah well so don't don't get me wrong i may have talked very
very casually from my own personal experiences of it being kind of laissez-faire, like, okay, cool.
But hey, I will be the first to admit there were times in my professional paranormal life.
When I did investigate at times when I

(01:22:44):
heard something or I felt something or I
saw something to where it was like the oh
my god factor inside you
know but over
time i don't want to use the word desensitized but it becomes at least for myself
where when i go into something if i have the mentality and mindset of i expect

(01:23:10):
something to happen and if it does it doesn't throw me for a curve and,
there's still stuff out there that will bring that cold chill down your spine
that'll always happen but.
There's times where i've investigated where i'm like you know

(01:23:31):
i question myself why are you walking towards this you should be walking away
yeah go the other way no but but then freshly baked cookies smell so good grandma
put me in the oven you know kind of thing um right you know it's,
but you know my thing with bigfoot and mermaids

(01:23:52):
is basically do i believe in
them of course i do because there's there's
aliens that exist in my opinion we
we already know what we do we do paranormal investigations so
we already know about the different realms and the and what
we've learned over all the years that we've been investigating separately

(01:24:13):
and together i believe in i believe in spirits i believe in ufos have i encountered
a bigfoot no but do i believe that they exist yes because all this other stuff
exists so when you see a mermaid when you hear about mermaids.
Should i believe they exist yes i believe they exist i've seen skeletal remains

(01:24:37):
that that you know some of these documentaries have come up with and you'd have
to you'd have to go i mean yeah you have 3d printing machines you have stuff
now that can create stuff like that but here here's Here's my point.
People didn't think the giants existed. And what have they been unearthing for the last 10 years?

(01:24:58):
Remains of giants like heads the size of my truck that I drive.
You know what I'm saying?
It's so like I said,
they're not only and you can you can you cannot always take it to the depths of the ocean,
but take it to parts of the
world that's way too cold for us to go or

(01:25:18):
way too hot there is still a lot
of land that we have not explored investigated
or done anything you know you know what if what if there's a creature that lives
around the volcanoes and you can only get so close to that but you know the
lava and stuff like that but you know what i'm saying it's it's like you that

(01:25:40):
the The world is such a vast piece of, yeah,
it's just one huge piece of property that goes on forever.
I mean, look at it like this. You know how big, okay, think of your bedroom.
Think about how big your closet is, okay, for anybody that's listening.
Okay, if you have a closet that you walk into or you can just open it up,

(01:26:00):
put your clothes in, think of it that way.
I know if you live in Europe or different places in the world besides the U.S.,
a lot of homes don't have closets that you can put clothes into. You have your cabinets.
That you put your clothes into. Think how big that space is. Okay. That space is.
Most part the all the space that's needed for

(01:26:22):
a bigfoot to be somewhere in the
woods so that whole space
that's taken up could be where it's at it's not that big and when you go to
forests or woods where the trees are the landscapes just far as you can see
nothing but nature i mean the options are endless likewise with the water water

(01:26:44):
even more so we still haven't even explored way more Well,
we haven't even explored all of
the ocean's floors or all the nooks and crannies. And we probably, right.
And we probably, you know, like, like right now that, that river I was talking
about, that's dissipating. And now all these caverns are showing up. Yep.
That were underneath. That thing wasn't, I mean, if you looked at that river

(01:27:06):
from the top side, when it was full, it didn't look to be that wide.
Nope. Nope. And now that it drained, you know, that it dissipates and it's got
all these caverns that go way down into the earth, these underwater caverns that they had.
So who knows, man, like these springs?

(01:27:26):
I mean, we got springs in Florida that, you know, divers can only go down so deep.
Deep who knows what's down there at the very bottom what kind
of you know thankfully like
it doesn't it might not be like the
light bothers it or the warmer water bothers it that's why
i don't whatever it is down there doesn't come up and try to eat us so all these

(01:27:47):
people that swim in these springs and think oh yeah there's a big old hole over
there okay in a in like a cavern so i'm gonna i'm gonna you know i'm gonna ask
you this then this will be the last question question I have for you because it's about that time.
If you had to only pick one side of the house,
if you could only pick either Bigfoots or some sort of evidence of life forms

(01:28:12):
like mermaids or mermen, some sort of life forms in the ocean, which would you pick?
Think you would believe would be more to actually
potentially be there if you
don't know if i had to pick one yeah would you be team bigfoot
or would you be team mermaid i mean

(01:28:36):
bigfoot's been around for a while and we it's been
running to the ground i believe if like somebody could actually
you know i'm in i'm into
a lot of the mythological stuff and you know
so i would i would probably me lean on team mermaid
because that is not something you
hear about all the time it's very well kept it's just

(01:28:58):
not something that's spoken all the time bigfoot's spoken a lot you know any
kind of little noise or you know another footprint you know boom there it is
you see what's the so i go after the mysterious part which would be the mermaid
you know it's interesting you threw me for or a curve, I thought you were going to say Bigfoot,
because it's prevalent.

(01:29:19):
There's been so many sightings and there's so many variants of it across the world.
Now, for myself, what do you think I'm going to pick?
Well, I don't know because it depends on you. If you go for the more prevalent,
thing that's been sighted already, whatever.
I mean, yes, mermaids have been sighted in a way, but like I said, they're mysterious.

(01:29:41):
I couldn't tell you what you'd pick, to be honest.
You might go for mermaids. I don't know. Actually, I would go for mermaids.
For the sole reason is this.
This is my simple theory. Here, theory of paranormal. You heard it first from
me, even though I already kind of touched base on it earlier in the podcast tonight.

(01:30:03):
As far as it goes, I believe there would be some form of life form that's in
the ocean that has nothing to do with being a fish.
That is some sort of creature in a way like us because for that to be the prevalent
biome on this planet and there to be so much water in so many places that we haven't explored,

(01:30:29):
I think there has to be something.
I mean, that's like going to go to a restaurant that sells nothing but chicken nuggets.
And they have one side dish that's a hamburger.
And so everybody that goes there you think is going to always have chicken nuggets.

(01:30:56):
My whole point is that I kind of always go with something that's obvious to me but so different.
For our planet there has to be something down there
there just has to be if if
it was on the flip side and from the way biology
is the way history has taught us and the

(01:31:19):
way evolution of animals and creatures and insects and organisms and everything
else that the majority of things are on land then that would pretty much mean
there's not much in the ocean the oceans would would be bare and empty.
There really wouldn't be fish. There wouldn't be any life form,

(01:31:40):
but that's the polar opposite from what I just said.
There's just as much life form of animals and plants and organisms and vegetation
and everything that's underneath that's equal in a way to what's on land on
certain things, not everything.

(01:32:01):
I don't want to get called out there. That's just my opinion,
but i just think there's something there something that we haven't figured out yet,
something that we haven't seen well there you go you're on you're
on the same path i am because it's the unknown and it's
basically like it's basically like if you look at it like that it's it's kind
of like okay we know about bigfoot we hear about bigfoot all the time we've

(01:32:24):
been hearing about bigfoot forever but mermaids i mean how often does somebody
just pop up and go hey there There was a mermaid in the Atlantic Ocean right
next to that 16-foot great white.
Yeah. You know, no, what you hear about is there's a great white off the coast
of Florida, or there's a shark attack here or wherever.

(01:32:44):
But, you know, we rarely ever anybody talk about mermaids. No.
Rarely. But there's always the future. Well, there always is a future.
But when you look at the amount of stories there is of sightings,
you would figure people would talk about it. Yeah.
As blatantly as we talk about Bigfoot, why not?

(01:33:04):
But when you look at it logically... What is... Sorry, go ahead.
No, I'm just saying, what is the big kept secret that we can't talk about a
mermaid as much as we talk about Bigfoot?
Well, when you look at it logically, though, okay, play devil's advocate.
Moving around in the ocean, unless you're a Navy for the military of any country
that has a military that has a Navy, Navy rather be military holistic or commercial

(01:33:29):
Navy for transporting or for, for fishing,
you know, for the most part.
Pleasure with sailboats and
your own jet skis or boats going
around those usually are close to coasts and stuff they're
not really out there out there in the ocean by themselves so when you look at

(01:33:52):
it logically there's a lot of ocean out there that people don't get eyes on
every day it's that's just how it is well then there's a lot of people that
there's a lot of people that do though you You have all the fuel tankers and
container tankers that come across the motions,
even though they have the same route plans, you know, I mean, for instance,

(01:34:13):
you know, cruise ships, you got cruise ships out there, you got planes,
you know, they fly across the oceans all the time and some of them,
some of them fly low enough that they could, they could, you know,
see something swimming down there.
You know, you got all these, you know, So fishermen in the northeast,

(01:34:34):
they go way out there to, you know, catch tuna or do whatever.
You almost wonder if these if these container ships and these oil ships,
you know, yeah, they travel through some bad areas.
But you wonder like they they try to avoid the Bermuda Triangle. Yeah.
So will they be trying to avoid areas like if they seen, you know,

(01:34:57):
if they if the captain has seen the crew reported seeing mermaids?
In a path that they try to take and here they
are acting like blackbeard saying we're not traveling through there and they
don't mention it because oh i like my job and i don't want to be considered
as a fruit loop because i said oh there's mermaids in this part of the ocean

(01:35:18):
over here we're not traveling through there yeah maybe there's been experiences
that haven't been reported,
that's very very very so it is and it because there's all these other experiences
of people saying that, but you know, it's, it's like I said, UFOs and aliens.
Okay. We done. We done. That's real.

(01:35:40):
One like i said over arizona and that pretty much
sealed the deal for me on the belief of aliens and
ufos you know spirits and ghosts we've
been dealing that for a long time so that's real to me
you know bigfoot like i said i've never seen a
bigfoot never i don't know anybody i don't
know anybody firsthand that has any account

(01:36:01):
of seeing bigfoot but there's a lot of
reports and there's a lot of evidence that proves there's
a bigfoot or a skunk ape or whatever you want to call it a yeti or
just a hairy caveman that never grew out of caveman status and
is still you know caveman just a
big old hairy dude yeah and then
but the thing that the one thing that you never now i don't think i think kind

(01:36:24):
of like they don't go to mermaids because it does kind of go to the mythological
of greeks and goddesses and i don't think anybody wants to go into the god themselves.
And where these mermaids like you said the goddess even though she wasn't from the greek mythology,

(01:36:46):
which when you said goddess that's what i thought of was greek mythology but
you get into the greek mythology and i'm going to tread lightly on this but
well the one i was talking about something The one I spoke of was of a different
mythology from a different location in the world, that's all.
But it's easy to always go to mythology that way.
Well, that's what I'm saying. You go to the Greek mythology because that's what

(01:37:11):
we're trained to know is the Greek mythology and the gods of Zeus and Pegasus
and all the different gods.
Ares, the goddess of love and all that. Yep, the Titans, the original gods, all that good stuff.
Of right so but here again i'm
when i say i'm going to tread lightly because that falls on a

(01:37:33):
different belief system if you get what i'm saying oh
without a doubt that's one one version slash one
opinion there's many out there we have
only spoke of a few tonight right but there's many more that we most
likely didn't speak of that other people are well aware probably
listening to us right now and going listen to
these two guys they're taught they're only telling a little little bit of the story i know

(01:37:56):
a story about well what i'm talking about is
when i say belief i'm talking about religion is what
i'm saying you don't work everybody's trained
on their religion everybody has different religions and so now i'm not walking
softly on this i'm just going to tell you maybe maybe the reason why they don't

(01:38:17):
talk about mermaids is because it goes it goes with with the Greek mythology,
which is a different style religion.
And it's not something they want to talk about. Yeah. Because of the,
if you talk about Zeus, I mean, when's the last time anybody came out and talked
about Zeus or Hades or, uh.

(01:38:39):
With the trident from the ocean uh but
biden you know when's the
last time anybody's nobody talks about that
or do they even talk about like anything
from that they don't no you know
they just don't so why is that well all
of that was a form a form of storytelling

(01:39:01):
storytelling and myths and legends which was
an up-and-coming theory you
know i mean before modern day things that was happening that was the way they
would pass information along and keep things their ducks in a row now but see

(01:39:23):
these guys these people believed in these gods they They worshiped these gods.
And I know we just got off of mermaids and Bigfoots, but this,
to me, is why we don't talk about mermaids.
You don't hear people on the news going, oh, there's a big mermaid.
No, they're not going to mention that.
No, they wouldn't. Why won't they mention it? Well, it's because I think logically

(01:39:45):
and in theory, certain things are so taboo that are off untouchable that if
they were introduced in society,
that it would break things.
It would break concepts. It would break people's minds per se on certain levels.
It would break foundations of understanding.
It would it would break things for people that maybe not might not be ready to accept nor handle,

(01:40:16):
something that may be introduced to them and that's
the well but go ahead well here's the thing they're bringing out now that they
believe there's a megalagon running around you just brought out a prehistoric
creature why not a mermaid well you see but the thing is is mermaids unfortunately
for the most part are mythical but a Megalodon scientifically speaking could be very true.

(01:40:39):
Because they find the teeth these huge teeth
on the shorelines of certainly even off the coast of
north carolina is one of the most famous place to find megalogon teeth which
you know is what they claim to be because they're like 10 20 times the size
of a great white tooth yeah you know it's just a big big old tooth that's bigger

(01:40:59):
than the palm of your hand yeah anyway i I mean, you can go,
I wasn't trying to get like completely off,
but I am wondering, I do question, you know, why, why doesn't anybody.
And that's why I lean on mermaids because nobody, nobody else,
they, nobody else seems unless they want to, but are scared to come out and

(01:41:21):
talk about it. I don't know.
Well, but that's why I'll pick mermaids over Bigfoots any day,
because a megalogon, if you show me, there is a real megalogon running around.
I don't swim in the ocean anyway i feel like bait but you know
it's it's it's if you showed me a picture of
a megalogon running around the ocean then yes i'm
going to be intrigued yeah you know yeah i'm

(01:41:43):
team but now i'm team mermaid also i just
there's so much there that has either perished and
passed away that we can't get the day in a
of because it's gone unlike the
earth you know with fossils and stuff i mean yes there is fossils also
in the ocean but it's it's different but it
well and i'm gonna like i said i'm gonna lean on that these mermaids

(01:42:04):
have some kind of alien background because some accounts
of sailors said that they telep you know use telepathic because they can't talk
but they can you use tele telepathy telekinesis i can't say the word you're
talking telepathy telepathy yes but it's uh whether telekinesis or whatever

(01:42:26):
whatever anyway Anyway,
so they use telepathy to speak to the human.
You know what word I'm trying to say, that big old word, telekinesis.
You're talking telekinesis.
Yes, thank you. So telepathy, to break it down from my southern charm,

(01:42:46):
telepathy would be, so they communicate that way. And that's kind of an alien technology, right?
So aliens can communicate telepathy. I was going to touch base on that,
and I'll just say this one last comment is,
as me and you know, and I know people that listen may have personally experienced

(01:43:08):
things or know somebody that is, as I call gifted,
able to do things that a normal human can't do.
Like read someone's mind or maybe see spirits or ghosts or feel energy or be
an empath or touch an object and get a memory of it or a sense,

(01:43:29):
a feeling, a smell. Yeah.
Up to the point of thinking of a loved one and getting an impression of how
they're feeling, their generalization, their wellbeing.
I mean, I could go on and on, you know, with maternal instinct type things of,
of mothers having a special bond with their, their children of knowing if they're

(01:43:50):
in danger or if they're okay, or, you know, it goes on and on.
Inherently speaking and logically speaking, physiologically speaking,
Are those normal traits of a human being? No.
Do we know where they come from for anybody that has these abilities?
No idea. Have they ever found any genes in the genome to be able to see,

(01:44:14):
oh, here's where it is, here's why it's there?
No. No. So maybe that is the big thing, you know, but that's,
that's a whole different topic for another time that we can definitely unpackage and discuss.
But as, as far as it goes, Mr.
Dalton, that is all the time that we have for this podcast.

(01:44:35):
And I'm sure we're going to get some wonderful feedback as always,
as we do for anybody that has any questions, comments, concerns,
I want to submit any evidence they may have of a paranormal nature.
They would like me and Dalton to review or give our feedback on.
You're more than welcome to, as always, like we've received in the past.

(01:44:56):
What you can do is just email us at info at theoryparanormal.com and we will
be able to see what you submit and we can give our professional opinion back
to you and you can go from there. Thank you.
That i am happy to know that you are team mermaid and i am team mermaid so we have that in common.

(01:45:23):
Well we always we always think
alike like that so that's what makes us a good team but also i
want to let people know that if you send we've had people send us
stuff pictures and stuff and pretty much
told us they don't want us putting it out here on the air they
just want some feedback on what they've seen what
they captured and that's fine too we we

(01:45:44):
do get a lot of requests for for us
to look at stuff so don't don't think that because you
send us something we're going to put it out here on the air if
you request that we don't then we won't but if
you you know pretty much don't say anything or say
yeah i don't care if you put it in your your next podcast that we
received a photo this is what it is this is

(01:46:05):
what we're seeing then more power
to it but i just want to put it out there that just because we're
telling you send us stuff doesn't mean we're gonna put it on the air
here because we got a lot of stuff that's been sent to us that we haven't spoken
about so nope just throw that out there besides doing this podcast of just just
being general information of mine and Dalton's theories and opinions and factual

(01:46:30):
things that we've experienced that we put out there.
We also help individuals or paranormal teams behind the scenes when questions
or concerns or things come up. We also do offer assistance that way.
So, so that will conclude everything for this particular podcast on Bigfoot

(01:46:52):
and and Mermaids Season 2, Episode 3.
So as always, don't be afraid to ask questions.

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