TrMF #030 – One of the SCARIEST diseases the DOESNT LET YOU SLEEP, and Putting HOLES in your head to let the demons out REALLY HAPPENED! - THESErMYFRIENDS

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Anyways, oh, are we on?
So I was just telling you.
Osprey.
Was saying somebody do,figure out how to tally up all the facts
and figure out which either Dylanor I spits more facts.
I think Dylan spits more facts,quite honestly.
Yeah, but I'm also moreliable of mixing facts up.
Right to makes facts.

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Yeah. See, I just have an asshole.
Who I'm just a.
Tangent.
I'm just like, criticize.
So you can't say like
I'm a grammar and,
you know, because I just don't like thatword, you know?
I don't think the algorithm likesthat word either.

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Which word? Like, how could you.
Oh, grammar.
See what I'm talking about? Yes. Yeah.
I thought yes. Oh, you're saying.
Not that I don't want to say that.Oh, God either.
Hello, Dan. How are you?
Start over. Just start over.Just started talking about here.
How you been, man?
All right, I guess. Yeah, we watched that.
Let's get it over with.We watched the fight the other day.

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Yeah, I.
Felt like I told you going into it,I felt like I was being tricked.
No matter what.
It doesn't matter what it is.
It's rigged. It's not rigged.
I feel like I'm being trickedregardless. Just.
But I'm curious enoughthat I want to watch.
And then we watched it,and it was really anticlimactic.
Okay, the two girls, though,which I obviously forget their names.
Excellent fight.
It was a really good fight.
Yeah, they were savage, like holy.

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Before I went down to the pub, thereI with to meet you guys.
I saw the the brutal ladyfight before ashing.
Yeah, yeah. HerI was really messed up. It looked.
That was four.
Yeah, yeah. Dude, I didn't know.
I was like,is that a band aid or something?
I hope that's a band aid.
And I'm like, no, that's just a flap.
Flap.
Terrible skin flap.
Anyways, welcome toThese Are My Friends. Welcome.
It's actually too. Much.

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So I actually have three thingsthat I want to talk about today.
My. Time is. Okay. It's two and a half.
All right. Go ahead.
Why don't I just, like.
Well, I was waiting for you to do your gymand stuff today.
I actually watched,
three part, one hour each
true crime docu series on Laci Peterson.
It was actually really good.

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And I'm not going to go overboard into itbecause you can watch the series
yourself, but I just want to talk abouta couple things where it just like,
man, like it's I watch a lot of true crimeas it's no secret
as a lot of people do, but,
just I want to go over some thingsabout the case with you.
But I don't watch true crime at all,so it's kind of like.
Mentally,I. Didn't know about this stuff for the.

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Night. And.What you telling me? Yeah. However.
Yeah, I have heard the name and, you know.
Yeah,it was one of those. Just like. It's a.
Sad, kind of ridiculous, kind of obvious,but not obvious, but finally obvious.
Anyways, the second thingI'm going to talk about is,
the, fatal familia
insomnia, which is a disease that,

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I watched, actually,another YouTuber talk about that.
A couple of them are talking about itrecently.
I, I've never heard of it,and it's just a rare
psychological disease,basically permanent insomnia.
And how freaky that is.
This does. Terrible, terrible.
And then they have been.
Are you afraid of the dark episode?
No, dude,it's like it. Or like Black Mirror.
Like something like,nine times out of ten.

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Oh, God.
We don't sleep.
Yeah, not nine times out of ten.
Ten times out of ten, you don't sleep likeit's it's freaky shit.
And then I want to talk aboutjust to like,
it's still a little hardcore,
but it's kind of funny hardcore because ofhow old it is.
Just prehistoric back in the day. Surgery.
Like whatthey did surgical procedures from like
back inthe day, like 1100 or something like that.

(03:34):
And we're going. To try putting leechesall over your face.
And see if it.
Cures them.
It's like plastic surgeryfor the modern man.
Yeah, it's leech face.
What was I going to say?
Damn.
Quickly before was something before that?
Okay. Never mind if I remember.
I'll. I'll say interject any time.
Well, in between segments would be ideal.

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To. The middle of a segment,go into another segment.
I'm going to remember rightwhen you start to talk about the first.
So, I do want to just kind of do a quick
wrap up and like, obviously it'sspoiler warning, spoiler alert, whatever.
Trigger.
Warning, trigger warning, trigger one.
And spoiler alert,because if it is a three part
docu series, it's kind of older now.
So I mean, if you haven't seen it,but I don't know what you are.

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You see, you don'twatch a lot of true crime.
But when I watch True Crimeand I watch the Netflix series, I.
Okay,
do you want to say what it is?
We can it's it's completely unrelated.
So I'll just, like, quicklybust in there and it's very short.
But, my friendDan actually, who hits on our chat.
Yeah.
Haechan, who was on our cast last time,I am going to butcher the story.
I don't remember the type of the caror anything,

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but basically in the,Rina Virk documentary. Yes.
Apparently there is a her uncle'sclassic car,
and it's actually thisyellow Volkswagen thing that's like a low,
down to the ground, kind of like sportscar that's really like vintage and retro.
I've actually sat in that car.
It's actually really their uncle's car.I've like.

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And her brother was driving it to schoolquite a bit, and she sat in the car,
so like into the car,the yellow car that you see
like in the Rina Virk documentary.I've actually said.
It was the magic school bus for you.
Oh my God, do it. Anyways.
That's pretty cool.
So it was. They used the real car from.
And only people from Victoria would knowthat.
There's no reason why

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anyone else would know that watchingthat documentary from around the world
stay true. Yeah.
Apparentlythey're saying things in the dark.
I haven't seen it.
Yeah,I was saying they were saying things like,
oh, let's go to Esquimalt, orcan we drive through View Royal and like,
hey, it's the Gorge. Like stuff like that.
Like in itjust to like, be Victoria about.
It because that'sa relatively recent documentary.
They did another one apparently. Yeah.
I haven't seen it yet.So anyway, that's all I know about it.

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He just told me that story and I was like,hey, I've sat in that car.
What the heck? Yeah. Mr..
Plausible deniability,because like, he spelling his name.
Wrong pitch in.
Oh I see, yeah, yeah, I see. Mr.
Plausible tonight. I'm sure we go with us.
We are talking about okay the your story.
I just wanted to quickly okay on that.
So I just watched this three partdocu series about,

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Scott Peterson, was the husband.
And then, Laci Peterson was pregnantwith an eight month old Connor Peterson.
And he looks exactly like,
oh, my God, the other guyfrom goodwill hunting, not Matt Damon
and not Ben Stiller at Annapolis.
Thank you. Mark. Thanks, Mark.

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And Affleck.
He looks exactly like Ben Affleck.
So basically, like I
the what I'm going to say too, is like,there is a spoiler alert, but it's like,
so if you don't want to listento how the story ends,
skip ahead to me.
Dropping out of the school.
Yeah, it's it'sthey're they're never even have a chance.
To talk about good Will hunting.

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But up we gotta switch it up. But,
what I like if before I put a three hour
episode on or, like, I always goto Google, like, did you do it?
And I just, like, even before thethe thing plays out, I walk right ahead.
So I spoiler alert myself.
So I know a lot of people do that,so I'm just I just.
Don't like a surprise.
No, I just the whole story's incredible,but it's just like,

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I want to know if this suckerif I'm like, whose side I'm rooting on
because they always take you on. Like,did he do it?
Wait, did he actually do it?
Oh, did he do it? And I wanted to be like,okay, I don't care.
I want to know if he did it or not
because I might have any sympathy for thisasshole throughout this three hours.
And what he.
Did, he. Yeah. What did he do it exactly?
Mark.
So nice.
He just closed the door so quietly,like no one cares.

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Just slamming their pop culturereferences.
No shit. We just lost him.
Damn it. I'm fuck that.
Have no more. Of the guy one.
So my friend one time.
So basically, the whole storyturns out where it's Christmas Eve,
there was a huge tabloid scandalbecause it happened in, California.
The it was a very beautiful couple.
It was it really literally happenedon Christmas, a bunch of rich people,

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but they weren't famousor anything like that.
Like he was a fertilizer sellerand she was a stay at home tube mom.
And typically, like,the media doesn't get this much publicity
on a case unless it's like hot,like OJ and shit like that.
Like they had orgies, lawyersin this case and shit like that.
Like it was that high profile.
Anyways, the whole story starts off with

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Scott Peterson.
He hops on the phone
and like on Christmas, because they'reall supposed to be a family members.
Lacey's mom's for Christmas.
And he's like, I haven't seen Laceyand he's just like, so calm and collected.
He's like, oh, is she there?
She's like, no, like,what do you mean you haven't seen her?
It's like, oh, I went,I went golfing today.

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And then it's like, oh, okay.
Well when did you to go golfing? Oh,I was going to go golfing.
She was going to take the dogs, walkthe dogs back.
But now I don't know where she is.
I came back from my weight fishing trip.
I went fishing,
so I think it was originally gonna
do a golfing trip,but then it turned into a fishing trip.
Yeah.
So, Linda, they're like,let's get OJ's lawyers in here.

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Some not not here.
We can't figure it out at all.
His case is airtight.
We need someone really fucking.
So he.
Oh, you mean defense lawyers?
Okay, now I'm on board, I understand. Yes.
Yeah. Different defending everything.
Okay. As had. So then anyways.
And all of youdoing. Laundry at the doctor's office.

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I mean, at. Least
shooting range.
Stop talking. Yeah.
Somebody on mic this asshole.
Yeah.
So he,
was then it was like.
No, I was going fishing.I was going to go golfing.
But I decided to go for a fishing tripanyways.
Nobody knew that he had a bow,that he bought a bow.

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He went fishing like,90 miles away from his house.
And the dog shows up at that.
So that's all they know of the gates.
And then now they're doing a 48hour search.
They haven't been able to find this dude.
So cool. Calm, collected.
He literally looks like at one time,that meme of Ben Affleck's, like,
having a smoke when he looks like.
So like bag, like literally just like thatthe whole time.
Like, like this is interrupting his time.

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Anyways,
the the story goes on where,
It's like he's not at allfreaking out that his wife is gone.
Nothing. No.
He is. So.
And then he's not even in, like,participating in media, like, okay,
where's my wife? Cansomebody help me find my wife?
Like, he's like,avoiding the cameras and stuff like that?
Then they figure out that nobody,like I said,

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nobody in his familyknew that he actually bought a boat.
Nobody knew he had a boat. It's like,why didn't you remember?
Your boat is like,oh, I'm leaving it a surprise for Ron,
which was like his dador something like that.
And he's like, okay.
But normally if you have a boat and gofishing, somebody knows that you do that.
You just random decide to go fishingat the same time your wife goes missing.
And you go fishing in secretso that if you get lost out there,

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no one knows where the. Fuck.
Yeah, like we go, oh, 80 miles awayanyways.
Oh, it's. Changing now. Or 90 miles away.Whatever. If I decide.
That story straight.
Thank you. You know. I'mdefinitely not his lawyer. Yeah.
Full of holes.
And then, so, like, the whole familyis backing him up for a long time.
Obviously would never want to believethat the person that married your daughter

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killed the daughter, but, like,it was pretty like to me.
I'm like, man, this guy's like, innocentor is this guy's innocent?
This guy is guilty.
This guy, man,this guy's like an innocent.
No guilt.Guys can't go fishing and golfing.
Take some golf clubs. Fishing.
Well, why do you need those?
What?

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You know, it'ssome golf balls off the little boat
to give to your dad or whatever.
Yeah, I keep you a surprise.This is super cool.
Just want to make sure it workedwell for fishing and go take it
fishing a few times beforeI gave it as a gift to someone else. But.
And then
I only tooka couple months before they originally.
Or they finally found out that obviouslyeverything was crumbling against them.

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Like, this ain't had enough.It ain't ended up.
And then they just said, hey,
we need you to come down
for some questioning,and we need to look at your house,
and we need to do the polygraph,which he denied.
And this and the other thing.
And then they found him on the runwith dyed hair,
with his brother's driver's
license, like,an hour away from the Mexican border.

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And I. This is the main pointthat I wanted to say.
Like, his car had four cell phones,$15,000 in cash.
And acts like survival skills,like survival.
He was planning to have to hide,potentially, like, out in.
The wilderness, like going to San Diego,which is an hour from the Mexican border.
And he dyed his hair.He looks like a dipshit.
And he had his beard grown.Any of his brothers license.

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And anyways, long story short, yes,he was guilty.
Bodies washed up.
They figured out it was him.
Like there's no like he did it.
His family.
So this is the my like,
my kind of hypothesisor like what I'm trying to think of, like.
Anyways,still was backing him up at that point.
It's like, how would you.

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Obviously if it's your family.
People will do crazy leaps of logic to tryand like justify myself of other things.
Right?
Like, but like if my twin brotherdied, his hair stole.
My idea was 15,000.
I'd be like, bro,do you have something? And they're still.
You can tell me what happened,okay, we're gonna figure it out, but yeah.

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Come on. Don't just tell me it's all goodand then disappear. Yeah.
Come on, man.
And they had his phone tapped,so they were literally.
So it's not even like.
Like he didn't know the whole timethat his phone was tapped.
So every single phone callthat he made was recorded.
And it was.
His family did not.
They were like, it wasn't just like,hey, man, if you did something,
tell me no conversationlike that was legit.
Like, we know he didn't do it.We know we were all good.

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But just so you know. Talk to the parents,you know?
Yeah. Like.
What do you son? And it's like.
And it's like, at what pointdo you have to be like, yo, bro?
Like straight up,did you murder your wife? No.
They figured out that he had an affairwith another girl in a different city,
and it took him forever to admit that.
And anyways, so long story.
Short,it seems like kind of sociopathic moves.

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Psychopath?
Yeah.
It's like, not reallylike the whole, like, the whole,
this is kind of just an annoyance,like taking up my time.
Why don't you guys just, like, move on
and stop looking for my missing wife,and we'll all just move on?
It's like,that is some cold shit, you know that.
Some, like, inhumanly cold.
Like he's not panicking.
He's not like, obviously he did itand he's not sorry.

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He's not freaking out at all.
He's just sort of like,let's get it over with.
Come on. And there's like, so much work.
I'm like, condensing.
It obviously was three hours,but your cell.
Phones, you do it for someone forI may be different ladies. Yeah.
Maybe like a multiple different ladies.
And so like it was like.
But it's one of those that was my biggestthing was like, how could you back
somebody that at the end of everything,everything's pointing against them.

(14:35):
They literally had the warrantfor his arrest at this point. Yeah.
And it's like you look at himand he was like, this dude is clear, like,
so incognito.
This guy's incognito.
How? He's trying his best to hide. Yeah.
How is he not guilty like this?
Yeah.I really want this guy to be innocent.
He just wants to change his style. Yeah.
All of a sudden. His lifestyleand everything about himself.
So that he can hide in a different country

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in Mexico.
Duh. Like that's what he's doing. Fine.
But anyways, that was that wasthe main thing that I was just like, fuck.
Like, okay, I understand that's super sad.
And deniability would come up,especially with people you love.
But like, at what point would you be like.
Oh, you're with me? Mostly, yes.
The moral. Question is what I'm trying to.
Digging at here.
And the reasonwe're bringing this up at all
is that you're you're just really likethe crazy leaps of faith

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that people will give you
against all evidence to try and denythat their loved one is a monster.
Yeah, yeah.
And he still to this daypleads he's innocent.
20 years later, the.
The police probably see this all the time.
This is why, when you, you know, like
some mother is trying to appealto the cops, they're like, yeah, lady,
save it for the judge because they fuckingheard it from every single person there.
Yeah, my baby would never do anything.

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And then meanwhile, somebody like daughteris dead. Yeah, right.
Like someone did this. Yeah.
Like somebody baby.
Talk to the other fucking parents,right? Like.
Holy shit. Dude.
Everybody. Somebody's baby.
Exactly right.
Joe Jackson song as as as horrific.
Because that's the thing, man.You do something terrible like that.
And now
everybody in your life who ever lovedyou has to like that's tainted, right?

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Like it's so terrible.
Like you'renot just doing that to the one victim.
You're doing it to your mother and fatherand your sister and brother
and everybody. Right?
Like if you going out and, like, murdersomebody. Yeah.
And now you're in jail.That happens to everybody
now they're like, their brother'sa murderer or whatever.
Like you're doing that to somebody.
Yeah, really? Think about this shit,not just you. Wait.
Oh, I mean, like, that's that.
That's the one thingthe mom said at the end of all this.

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Which is they become victims, too.
They're just like, oh, okay.You wanted to be with another girl.
That's fine.
You didn't have to take mine away from.
Exactly did.
And that's just I mean.
Some people will do anything
but approach directly and talk about theand have a conversation you that's like.
Yeah, yeah. Holy shit.
And he had likehe was like tall, handsome,
good fertilizing job,whatever the fuck that dude is.

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Dude is just, he's a how it feels entitledbeyond morality, right?
He's like,I just want to get rid of this problem.
He's not thinking of it like a really verycompassionate person at times.
Like, you know, he's out. He's like,I know what how to deal with this problem.
I'll just secretly buy a boat.
Like, dude, dude went to like,insane levels of trouble to try and, like,
basically set up a murderwhen all he had to do was leave the woman.

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Yeah, right.
Like Jesus.
And that's to take half my stuffor whatever, like.
But he don't want to give halfhis fertilizer business, right? Yeah.
He isn't. I'm serious. Yeah. It's like.
Yeah. You know.
That's that's where that a lot ofthose people make those brash decisions.
And then I don't. Want to give half.
That's like,you know, how many million dollars like
I think I could probably,you know, blah blah blah.
It's just like this person'snot thinking of it in terms of
they're thinking of itin a cold, scientific, mathematical way.

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Right.
And just from like a capitalism,like I could.
Yeah. It's like I could.
Make all this go awayand nobody's going to figure out
I'll be the one personthat gets away with it.
Yeah.
The cost of a boatand the trouble and blah, blah, blah.
You know, we'll be we'll be betterthan giving her half my stuff and the kids
and blah, blah, blah. Like,this is the rationale.
Probably going through whateverhell like in the five months before is.

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Yeah, like, well,
actually took two years to get to trial,but the whole time and the whole two year.
Old is, you think was going to have a bro.
At like media at his door,
people calling him a like a dipshitand like you're a murderer and.
Yeah.
And just like his whole is like I'm like,
how is that like the peacefulness wouldn'tmake you want to just like, run off it.
You don't think that way? Yeah.I think that was going to happen.
He had like these guys have like a crazylike hubris.

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Right.
Like they have this
like ultra confidence that comesfrom the sociopath psychopath thing.
If you if you have no empathy, thenyou just think you're right all the time.
And then you'll just be like,ultra confident beyond reason
and just think you're entitledto kill people or to take what you want,
or to not pay taxes or to whateverthe fuck it is you think, right?
Like you just think that you're betterthan. Us

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and the one that he was having an affairwith?
I'll just I'll wrap it up with this notewas basically where it all came down on.
Was the one that ended up turning him inbecause she had no clue he was married,
and she was sothe one that he was throwing it
all the way for ended upbeing his undoing.
So. Sucks as a clown. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Dude, that's what the fuck you thinkit's going to happen, though, right?
You want to be with somebodyand you want to be honest
with them and like, oh,it's my favorite one. So hey, guess what?

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You're cool, right? Hey,guess what happened to me.
I have this wife and blah blah blah. What?
You know, you're tied to a crazylike for research on all this shit.
Like. The only reason why she went out.
Yeah, the only reason why she figured outwas because she ended up
watching the news.
Because it became so publicized.
Oh my God.
And like, she called the cops, like, oh,I think I'm dating this guy.
And they're like, wow.

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Yeah.
Imagine the icy feeling in your stomachwhen you realize that this twerp is,
like, in the room with you.
Yeah, that is like aroundor just went out to get eggs or whatever.
And he would always say,oh, I'm just going to travel
to see my family in this place,in this place, in this place.
So he was like only there at the time.
And he was like lying on the phone
being like, oh, I'mlooking at the Eiffel Tower, be somewhere.
But because she knew. Madness, the.

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Cops knew. She knew.
But the cops told her not to tell him.Yeah, right.
So she's like just playing on, like I'm.
Listening to this guy.
She's lying through his teeth. What?
A cop looking for his wife in California.
He's like three, four.
I'm in France right now, babe.
Oh, and you canthe whole phone calls record.
It just took like, wow, dude.
So anyways, that,like that amount of awesome.
It's a good it'sa riveting watch. It's really cool.

(19:57):
But like at the same time it's just.
Nice to see this clown getget his just desserts like, it's like.
The death penalty.
But then it got overturned and then nowthe death penalty is abolished.
So he's just life and president.
Just rotting in prison.
Rotting in prison,which I almost thinks worse, but,
Well, it's certainly not very fun, so.
No, that sucks to live your life that way.
But I think we were in for our first breakfor sponsor.

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So we're going to talk about,rare diseases.
Okay.
It's a new segment.
Well, it's,
not going to be, I don't know,we talk about a bunch of random stuff.
If everything had its own segment,you'd be stupid.
I mean, what would the segment be called?
Rare diseases.

(21:27):
It's a little bit inspired.
Yeah. It's true. We'll workon. It. Yeah, we'll work on it. Yeah.
So this one's, fatal familial insomnia.
But, so fatal familial insomnia.
FFI is a rare genetic gene,degenerative brain disorder.
It is characterized by an inabilityto sleep, insomnia
that may be initially mildbut progressively worsens,

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leading to significant physicaland mental dis
deterioration.
Affected individualsmay also develop dysfunctional
dysfunction of the autoimmunenervous system.
The parts
of the nervous system that controlinvoluntary or automatic body processes,
which are things that happenwithout a person thinking about them, such
as body temperature regulation, sweating,breathing, or regulating the heart rate.

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Specific symptomsdepend on the part of the auto.
Okay, am I saying this word?
I don't know MC,I don't know MC 88 autonomic.
Yeah,I don't know I guess. Yeah. Autonomic.
You just I've never heard that word. MCI don't. Know. Yeah.
Nervous systemthat is affected by the disease.
In all instancesfear is caused by an abnormal

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variant in the prion related protein gene.
Although sometimes disorder occursrandomly without a variant gene,
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Guys listening.
Are you learning?
Gene?
It's a long story short,it's something in the autoimmune system
that is affected by a proteinthat makes you not be able to sleep.
And that's brutal.

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Yeah. So forever insomnia.
Forever. Exactly.
Cannot sleep to the pointof like madness basically.
Are you just.
Yeah.
What would what would happen.
So there is never. Sleepyou just degenerate.
So I was watching one story about a guynamed Richard Saigon.
He, was like a Indonesian tattoo artist,
and he was like, that was totally healthyup until his mid 30s.

(23:12):
And then he had some,
it's in here.
He had like a, he got an illness thatsomebody was like, oh, here, take these.
That these vitamins, whatever.
I don't know what it was.
It was some sort of like,
what do you call it anyway?
Some sort of medicine that wasn'tprescribed by a doctor for his autoimmune.

(23:32):
Yeah, just some sort of sickness.
And then they were expired,
and they think this is these drugsthat was given.
They never specified what drugs they were,was linked to him getting this insomnia.
But all of a sudden afterwards,his that sickness that he had went away.
But then he was realizingthat he couldn't sleep.
And then he realized what he had.
And then he documented every single dayof him on YouTube, slowly declining.

(23:57):
That's quite horrific and sad. Yeah.
Is he gone now?
He's dead.
Yeah. My God. Yeah. So a terrible way.
Obviously this doesn't happen a lot.
And it's just like,super freaky to think about.
But like, there was one case that was alsoshowcased in the documentary thing
I was watching about a guy in the hospitalin, like, in the mid 90s who had this,

(24:18):
and he was literally like,he couldn't talk.
He couldn't,
move because you can't get out of bedand your body just deteriorates.
Yeah.
You can't.
There's no time for it to to regenerate.
It just atrophy forever.
You're always sick becauseyour immune system doesn't get a timeline.
You can never think mentally.
You can never, like,
reset from your day and your brainwhen you sleep, unpacks your day right.

(24:42):
Your brain like stuff like organizesall of the things and events and thoughts
that you've had during the dayand packs it all away.
That's partially what your dreams are.
Is it just like going overall of the trying to make sense
of the informationthat has poured into it all day? So.
So that next day you can come inrefreshed and learn
new things, and instead of just jugglinga million plates up in the air.
So this poor guy is never reset. Exactly.

(25:04):
He never gets a chance to reset it,never regrow it.
It's freaky too, because then eventuallyyou're like, obviously, you know, loopy.
You get if you run on zero sleep,just staying up like a day or two.
I've been sleeping extrabecause of the gym.
I'm like, oh, I can get itbecause that's when growth happens, right?
You want to go and like,
tear up your muscles,but if you don't sleep
and you don't like eat properly and stuff,then there's there's no point.

(25:25):
You'll just heal back to like weak.
Yeah.Not weak, but like, you know, smaller.
And I want some growth.
So yeah, you want to have the oppositeof atrophy which is hypertrophy.
And you want to go to sleep.
This poor bastard can never grow.
Oh yeah. He was slowly shrinking.
So you just atrophy. It's horrible.
So the one video from the mid 90swhich was another case of this,
this guy was like literally like he

(25:47):
basically what they assume happenedbecause he couldn't
actually get into his brainto see what was happening.
But they could just like,
you know, take scientific studiesof people who don't sleep and the,
like, delusions that you see,you see black dots
and they get bigger and bigger and startyou, you just your vision is nothing.
Basically,
the guy I think my brother walked inwas like, hey, anybody?
This is a different guy.This is not the, Indonesian tattoo artist.

(26:08):
It's a different guy.
They're like, how long have you been here?
And you, you said there are laws.They can even talk.
And you just, like, sit thereand was like, hands were like slowly.
And then eventuallythere was a great blurry died.
You basically just stay awayuntil you die.
It's really horrifying.Yeah, I sleep again.
Oh, man.
Like, even having, like,the mildest insomnia, I'm like, fuck that.
Dude.
Okay, so just think about, like, justto not to highlight how horrible this is.

(26:30):
Just think of your, like,you really want to go to bed, right?
Like, you are so tired.
You're like,been staring at your computer for a while
and you're playingmaybe a video game or you're
and also you're like,why am I even still up?
I feel kind of on this. Antsy.
Yeah. Can't even sit still.
You're so tired and and just fallingasleep and stuff, but not falling asleep.
You just have that uncomfortable,
like, can't get comfortable in your seatssituationally.

(26:52):
Like I need to go to bed.
Yeah,I feel horrible and just need to lay down.
Right?
Somebody can go lay downbut just never fall asleep.
How fucking boring.
Even so, basically recorded himselftrying to fall asleep.
So I'm jumping a little ahead.
But basically what would happenwas like a synapsis in his brain
would like it would trigger responselike a defense mode.
So it would hop being like,oh, you're like, you're like

(27:15):
his body was learning to like,sleeping was basically
like something to defend against.
So as soon as he fell asleep and hitR.E.M., it would endure and he'd wake up.
So it's like every timehe's just about to fall asleep,
it would wake his body,would go into shock and then wake him up.
So there's anare you afraid of the dark episode
that scared the shit out of mewhen I was a kid?
Yeah. Was it so terrifying to think of?

(27:37):
And it was this old man had, like, taken,
or been sold like a pocket watchor like a clock.
Like a little watch. Yeah.
As some kind of treasure from afrom a pirate treasure.
Do you remember. This? Oh, I do,I remember this episode. Yeah.
And so he had it.
I guess he didn't realize that waswhat it was that was causing this.
But he couldn't.
All he thoughtwas that I can't go to sleep,

(27:58):
because every time he would go to sleepand close his eyes,
these three zombies would, like,come up from the ocean.
These drowned men from the shipwreckwould come up and closer and closer
to him and coming towards him.
So he, like, kept himself awakeand like kept
all these alarm clocks all aroundand like coffee shells
and like coffee and shit,like just springs
and like cuckoo clocks and stuff,just to keep himself awake
because they would get closer and closer.

(28:19):
Like, I just wanted to be so horrifiedas a kid that these, like, wet, gross
zombie guys are going to come outwhen you close your eyes.
Like, that's not.
Yeah, imagine not being able to sleep.
You know, as a little kid I was like,this is brutal.
I couldn't are you afraid of the Dark One?
I couldn't watch after that.
That episode I couldn't watch the intro toAre You Afraid of the dark after that?
Yeah. It's like, you know, the, like.

(28:39):
The one that got me was the.
Clown swingand the laughing clown in the attic.
Yeah, I'm like all that shit.
They did such a good job, man.
Dude, I still love that show to this day.
Fortunate for how scary it isfor kids. For kids in 91.
It's like I remember
watching it when I was like 4 or 5and being absolutely terrified.
There's probably. Hilarious.
You watch it.
Now I do, I watch it all the time,but I still watch it, like at around
Halloween time.
I just put it on and it's like, it'scheesy now, obviously it's it's but it's

(29:03):
like well done and like a lot of themlike, man, this is kind of like fucked up.
Kind of a good writing.Yeah, it's actually good writing.
Yeah it is, but it's like crazy creepylike that one specifically.
Like just the thought of, like.
And when you're a kid, you.
Know, you scare kids.
Not being allowed to sleepis terrifying for a kid.
Like you fucked up the parents jobof getting them to like me, get to bed.

(29:23):
To the spot.Who's going to give them a gun?
Pirates are going to come out of thefucking thing and take their clock back.
I remember just being like, give.
Back the fucking clock.
Who cares?
Is it kid? What do you want this for?
Let's run it.
It's worth it, bro.Just throw the watch in the water.
Yeah, yeah.
That's so funny.Yeah, I forgot about that episode.
That's hilarious. Yeah,that was a real good one, though.

(29:44):
That really got me as well as not being.
Able to fall asleep.
Not just trying to stopfrom falling asleep, but like, you can't.
You can't sleep. Torturous.
So, in 2015, Richard contracteda urinary system infection.
So that's what it was.
He did not go to the hospital,but to his boss who gave him a medication
that he said would clear the infectionquickly
after sixconsecutive days of taking the antibiotic.

(30:04):
That's the word I'm trying to think of.
Richard had achievedan unusual constellation of discomfort
and side effects.
Believing these effects
were caused by his original illness,he continued taking the antibiotics
as everything worsened.
At one pointhe found that he could not sleep,
so he was forced to go to the doctor,
prescribed himsedatives to combat his health problems,
and then Richard died on December9th, 2016 due to the disease.

(30:27):
So, like, how did. His boss feel?
Is that criminal negligenceor something like, how do you do this?
Like you just provided medical.
Oh, this will get rid of your UTIor whatever the.
Fuck, dude, it's like, are you takingI mean, is this in the States?
No. What? Indonesia.
Oh, Indonesia.
Okay, so the thing is, in Canada,
I guess for us,we're entitled motherfuckers
because we have the privilegeof free health care. Yeah.

(30:49):
So when we have a UTI,
it makes no sense to do anythingother than go right to a professional.
Get it prescribed.
Are you ever talking to you?
Like, for me, it's like there'sno talking to my boss about hey, man, my,
you know, like the burns.
Like burns, bro, I need,I need a pill for me abroad.
He's like, oh, I got you covered.
You just go to the doctor.I got these things.

(31:09):
They're really old, but they'll work.
You ask me, you take it for six weeksand everything gets worse.
You're like, I fucking also need more.
They're not. It's not working.
I need more of the same.Yeah, shitty remedy Morrison.
But it's like maybe.You couldn't afford it.
Maybe he had, like, you know how
if you go to the doctor, he'sgoing to be a thousand bucks
and it's not worth it to the guy becausehe's like, oh, I'll just do it this way.
And then maybe it's worked before.
Maybe his boss has given him shitbefore that helped him,

(31:31):
and that'll suddenly boom.
You know, it sounds so dumb to us, but.
Who knows the situation.
If you it even if you're in the States,it's like people
try to not go to the doctor because it'sbecause they spent a lot of money.
So it's justlet's try to deal with it at home.
And then of course,then you wait until it gets horrible
and now you're going to the doctor once.
So bad, like, I'm sure doctors and stuffsee the worst shit.
Like, why didn't you come in sooner? Well,I didn't want to pay the money.

(31:53):
And now it's, like, out of controlor whatever it is.
But that's gonna cost you 15 grand.Yeah. There you. Go. It's crazy.
Now you've been walking on itfor how long?
Or whateverit is, right? You're fucked up.
Yeah, yeah.
And then.
So the other thing, too, is like,he was a really good artist.
So he's a really professional person.
Or professional?
Talented artist.The tattoo guy. Yeah. Saigon.
Saigon. And he.
So the the the interesting thingthat he did was he, like,

(32:16):
he didn't know what to do to knowhow to go for help.
He, didn't have much family. And,
he was documentingevery day and his YouTube channel,
and I think it's still up of himjust slowly going more and more insane.
He never got, like, his last video.
He kind of knew that he was on his wayout, but you're still able to communicate,

(32:36):
which was the one thing that made peoplequestion if he really did have,
fatal,
insomnia or if he was depressed.
That was the one thing up in the air.
Were they still arguing after he was dead?
They were trying to discusswhat it was to provide certificate,
I think, and obviously for science towardsthis disease that isn't curable.
It's there's no cure for this disease.

(32:57):
When you have that and insomnia, you'rebasically just rotting.
So so this will terrifyeverybody who has normal insomnia.
Yeah man.
Like literally think like,will I ever sleep again?
No I'm sorry. Out there. It's college.
I had a wild, like,slow burn trigger warning.
Where now you're just horrifiedin your stomach, down to your core.
If it's like

(33:18):
the chances ofhappening, like 1 in 1,000,000 thousand.
Yeah, 100 million grand.
Yeah. I don't really at least.
Like, easy, at. Least.
So, So, no, don't worry about it.
Yeah. You're all good out there.
I can't promise that. Don't sue me.
Except for one of you. Yeah.
But. Yeah.
No, that's.
So basically,that's where it kind of goes.
The, the watching

(33:38):
some of these videos are interestingjust because it's just kind of super sad.
And one of the reasons why I was doingit was not just obviously for shock.
I mean, it's something to do.
What whatwhat can you do. And Kelly, your bad.
I think that. I'm trying to get help.
Yeah I think that likeand just bring awareness.
Most peoplewho are going through something terrible,
they just want other people to be awareand not be just like cavalier,
going about their fun livesas though there's not this torturous thing

(34:00):
happening to them right?
So they just want someone to knowand acknowledge that, hey, this person's
dying right now, a horrific thing,and it can happen to other people.
And so it's like put some funding towardshelping against it.
Right? But like, I mean,what else can you do?
What do you what could you doin your deteriorating last
while other than try to shed light onwhatever it is that you're going through?

(34:23):
Yeah, yeah, man.
People know that's all you would have.
You it's what you would be focused on.
So what else can you do?
And like manI wouldn't be able to you wouldn't
you can't eat really because you'renot hungry. Because your appetite's gone.
Because your body's kind ofjust nourishing on itself.
Because it's all you can do.And if they want. Yeah.
Oh, that just absolutely.
Like when it's like, I feel like I'veheard it all of like the worst ways to go.

(34:44):
Yeah. It's up there.
Well think about this guywhen you neglect your sleep everybody.
Yeah.
You are thinkingI fucking I'll just get five hours
or I'll just get four,or I can do it on three hours
or I can do iton, you know, try to aim for like eight.
And if you need to do seven, then do that.
And everyone listening to this scoffand going, yeah, fucking right.
Seriously, try to do itlike it's actually important

(35:07):
if you're not getting enough sleep,if you're not trying to make time to sleep
enough, if possible, you're rocking lowlevel brain damage all the time.
Yeah, that is what most like.
Sleep professionals will say it
like if you're not sleeping enough,then don't be proud of that.
Like, oh, I don't need to run on my sleep.
It's like, bro,you would literally be smarter
and more with itif you took care of your point,

(35:28):
if you took it, if you just went to bedinstead of playing
four hours of video gamesbefore you go to sleep.
I understand man, I get it.
I know that people are like busy as hell.
They got kids, they got work grinding.
Now at the end of the night they wouldlike to have some time for themselves.
And I'm talking about these bro's mostly.
And ladies, but I know there's some bro'sI'm thinking of in particular who

(35:48):
in order to take backsome of their freedom from this world
where they are otherwise completelytheir time is all spoken for,
so they feel like a bit of a prisonerrunning a rat race, just going from there
to work to kids to blahblah blah blah blah with no enjoyment.
So they want to take backsome of their life,
and unfortunately they're goingto scoop out some of their sleep time
and they're going to stayscrolling Instagram

(36:09):
until midnight instead of going to bedat 1030 when they put their kid to bed,
or they're going to stay up
and they're going to playfucking three hours of Call of Duty
and go to bed at 130 in the morningand get up at 5 a.m.
for work or whatever. It's like, bro,you can do a bit of that.
You can do that once in a while
when your friends are onlineand when you just need to kick back.
But like, just remember,sleep is really nice.
It is really good for you.

(36:30):
And when you wake up the next dayhaving slept properly,
which some of my friendshaven't done in a fucking gear.
Yeah, probably.
You know, some of you guys are good,some of you can sleep whenever
and you can work on it.
Some of you struggle,but like, try to get more sleep.
Just like you try to drink more water.
Just like you try to go to the gym likesleep is one of those ones we all neglect.
And you're going to rock low levelbrain damage without enough sleep.

(36:52):
Yeah, that's like what JamesFranco used to preach all the time.
Drink before you sleep.
Every single fucking time, either. Oh,I need a couple drinks to go to bed, bro.
You're not getting enough proper sleep.And then your sleep some fucked up.
Doesn't that fuck up your sleep?Yeah, exactly.
But now you're just wasting timebecause you might as well just be up.
You know? You might as well like.
I mean, I guess it'sbetter than just being up, but like, yeah,
having a couple, like, few beers and thengoing to sleep fucks up your sleep.
So why are you doing that?

(37:13):
Yeah.
Save it for the weekend or whateveryour birthday if you.
Don't have a problem.
Air quotes I'm coming off real judgy.I just.
I just I'm feeling attacked here, Dan.
I just love my people.
I just think that everybody can feelbetter.
Yeah, you you don't feel better.
And you would be,you know, a better self anyway.
No, because James Franco, he's a preachall the time.
He's like, I literally can't sleep.So I feel like that could be hours.
I could be using writing a new movieor doing this or doing that.

(37:35):
So I literally sleep 1 or 2 hours a day.
I think I'm much better.
Your movie would beif you slept, you dumb fuck.
Yeah.
And also,he probably has a team that it can be like
super delusionaland just leave it worse and be like, hey,
can you get all this nonsensethat I just wrote at three in the morning?
Can you make that into something?Okay, thanks. I'm sort to bed.
Yeah, yeah,we'll refine it. Yeah. Fucking just. Mr..
And you know what?
You can do that for a bit, but like,you're choosing, like I said, to just.

(37:58):
Be. Rock and low level brain damage.
You're like, I am okay with just havinglike a good chunk of percentage
of lacking in brain function.
I'm okay with that. Yeah.
I don't want to sleep, I want toI don't want to waste my time.
So I will just sacrifice
some of my brainpower and my growthin my muscles and my health, you know?
Yeah. In order to be what?

(38:19):
Be cool.
Like, there's like a weird culture
where it's like, well,I don't need all the sleep.
Mr. Tough Guy doesn't need any sleep.Yeah. Or you're.
Or you like a. Fucking farmersthing. You're like a little bitch.
If you need eight hours of sleep,all you need is a sleeping
and nine hours of sleep workand just be tired.
It's like, dude,you. Don't have to do that.
Why is that. Cool?
I know, like, it's like a little bit.
Yeah, I don't know.I get plenty of shit done.

(38:40):
I don't know. I'm a trucker.I drive 18 hours a day.
You know what.
I use this for is this is.
Listen, this is all fine and dandy.
Unless we're talking about parents,I get it.
I'm not saying this to parents.
Like, I mean, some of them, some of them,like, do need to just, like, prioritize
some sleep if they can
because they're trying to take backsome of their life and have a late night

(39:00):
and play some Call of Dutyor watch a show or whatever. I get it.
I'm not saying don't do that.
You have to have some sanityand balance in your life too.
I am don't have kids,so I can't like preach to people
who do have kidsand have these limitations.
I'm not saying it's just to clear that up.
I I'm not being judgmental.
Those people, I just
I want everybody to try to tryto get more sleep and prioritize
it, not be such a cool guy about it.Yeah, yeah.

(39:21):
If we can take anything from this guywho didn't even have the chance to.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 100%.That's what that makes me think of.
Is this guy, like,never got to sleep again? No.
Think of him. Yeah.
I think he's doing it. How frightening.
That would enjoy the freedomof getting to sleep. Yeah.
Okay. Well, what's that story behind us?
We're going to go into the last segmentthat I have.
Okay.
Maybe we want to insert a triggerwanting to get the trigger word

(39:41):
I to give you the sound bite.Thank you for that.
Very old school.
Five medical proceduresthat we're glad no longer exist.
Okay.
So the firstone, you might have heard of it, they.
Would put the the jock,
like the iron jock in the guy
and just nail him in that in the nutswith a giant mallet or mace.
Was that on an episode of like.
No, I.
Like.

(40:04):
That sounds like a Bugs Bunny.
That. What would that. Dude,I don't know, I'm just being stupid.
It looks like an iron maiden on your junk.
Yeah.
This, spirit will help.
With what?
I have a clue.
That I have a runny nose.
Yeah.
Hold still.
Well, actually, this first one. So.
Trepidation. I've heard of that.

(40:24):
Trip in nation.
Prep a NATO in trepidation.
Okay, no, I haven't heard of it.
So, but I. Approachit with some trepidation.
Oh, you will,
because it's actually I feel funnyif it's.
First.
Wasn't so fucked up,but now we can laugh at it.
I think there's been enough timethat's past that we can laugh at it. Okay.

(40:44):
Okay, good. Okay.
So are you still doing this
trepidation? I think it was like,
yeah.
1488 to 1516 was kind of the earliest type
of, of, of of surgery prerenaissance. Yes.
Drilling or scraping a hole in the skullis what that means.

(41:05):
I'm good.
It is. The leader was doing. Yeah.
Anyway. Okay. Yeah.The Montreal one I'm talked about.
She's just doing some trepidation. Yeah.
But he's doing 50 or 60.
So he did was very good at it.
No I didn't do it well either. Yeah.
So this is the oldest form of surgerywe know of.
Humans have been performingit since Neolithic times.

(41:27):
Oh, I guess the example thatit showed from above was the question new?
What Neolithic went. Back?
I don't know, actually.I don't know where Neolithic is.
I should know that.
I guess that's pretty old.
Yeah. Whenever grow old,
but real old. Yeah.
This is,I think that's when Citizen Kane came out.
We know, our listeners know,and they're all like, you idiot.
The Neolithic period was.And then they'll get out here.
We'll just call friend Dan. Dan, where is,

(41:50):
We don't know why people did it, but
some experts believe it could have beento release demons from the skull.
Surprisingly, some people livedfor many years after this
brutal procedure was performed on themand revealed by ancient skulls
that show evidence of a holehealing in their skull
so they would find skulls with the holesin them that are kind of half healed.
So like,what would happen? Like, there we go.

(42:10):
We got the demons out there.
Like they go on their head.
Cool.
And then like another that I readsomewhere else was like
it was initially like it wouldgo to doctors if they had a headache.
So now they pop a Tylenolor something like that,
but if they got a headacheand they're like,
oh, it's a demon in your head, that'swhat a headache is like.

(42:30):
If you let. Him out,he's stuck in there. Yeah.
And wouldn't you just say like,oh no, the seals are worse.
Like.
Trust me, it's fine.
It's a start. Going to normal.
Headaches don't stop on their own.
No one ever let a headache go for longenough just to have it stop on its own.
They didn't think of drinking water. Yeah.
They're just like, I need aI need a drill in the dome.
Yeah. It's a demon. Yeah. Holy crap.

(42:53):
You ready to get that out?
Now imagine how terrified you'd beif you didn't know any better.
And you just thoughtit was an actual fucking demon in.
Your head, dude.
Yeah, dude.
You'd be fine with somebody taking a.
Screw whenever I get it. Out.
I'm not walking aroundthe rest of my life.
My short time with his demongnawing on my brain.
It's probably taking my memories and shit.Fuck this.
You imaginethe stuff people thought like, oh.
How do you know? Yeah.

(43:13):
At that time, like in the Neolithic time,how do you know?
Time. Yeah.
Okay. Number two, the lobotomy.
It's hard to believe that a procedure
more brutal than terminationwas widely performed in the 20th century.
Lobotomy involvessevering connections in the brain's
free frontal lobewith an implement resembling an ice pick.

(43:34):
There'sa proper term for it, but as an ice pick.
It's a really horrifying.
It's one of the gnarliest thingsyou've ever thought about.
Yeah, yeah.
AntonioGassman is a Portuguese neurologist.
Invented the procedure in 1935.
So that's a name
that long ago, a year later, WalterFreeman brought the procedure to the US.
Freeman was an evangelistfor the new form of psychosis surgery.

(43:57):
He drove around the country in his lab,bought a mobile.
No wrong performing the procedure on.
Thousands of hapless patients.
Oh my God. Automobile.
Oh my God. To the bottom.
That's why I know that I want to writea metal song about this. Now.
Oh, instead of holy crap, an ice pick.

(44:20):
Freeman. Use an actual ice pick. Sorry.
So, look, what to me is what the term is.
It's like an ice pick. But this guy,
he was an actual ice pick.
Freeman used an actual eye,
which he would hammer through the cornerof the eye socket using a mallet.
He would then jiggle the stick aroundin a most unscientific manner.
Patients were,

(44:41):
at a speed trigger warning.
Rather, they were in an induced seizure.
Oh, no,
dude, that's so fucked, bro.
See, they induced a seizure.
Yeah, that's what happens when you juststick an ice pick in somebody's brain.
Yeah, I think you're smart, Twitch.What do you fucking. Yeah.
Oh my God, that's.
Wow. And people let this guy just right.

(45:02):
He's like, I'm a scientist.
I've gone to schoolfor a lot of this year.
You can get me here.
Over here.He's got his foot up on their chin.
What the fuck? Like
this looks very unscientific.
No, ma'am.
Trust me.
I mean, three. Years of this.
He's got a Spanish accent. Mother.
For Gigi's.
I just.
Thought I'd just twist. The ice. Speak.
Thankfully, advances in psychiatric drugssaw the procedure fall from favor.

(45:26):
In the 1960s.
Freeman performed his last through icepick a of lobotomies in 1967.
One of the patients diedfrom a brain hemorrhage three days later.
Yeah. That happened.
Yeah, yeah. No shit.
Like you're okay. Throw something.
Yeah. That happens.
Yeah. So. Okay, so we got to two down.
That's pretty.

(45:46):
Yeah, yeah. Sorry. Trigger warning.
Yeah. Now the trigger warning.
Those two are the pre trigger warning.Yeah.
Maybe we'll have to insert a triggerwarning.
Triggered a trigger warning?That trigger gave you the sound bite.
Thank you.
Put that in the cut.
Paste. Copy.There we go. Cafes. Copy. Easy.
That's the. No problem.
List sodomy.
Fair to that.

(46:06):
A lethal to me lit. Otto.
Why is it like a lithium treatment?
It's ancient Greek.
Oh, no, it's not Roman.
Persian and Hindu textrefer to a procedure known as lethal.
Artemis was thought to befor removing bladder stones.
The patients would lay on their back, feetapart with a blade.
No, while a blade was passedinto the bladder through the screen near

(46:30):
What is premium?
Premium
where the soft bit of fleshbetween the sex organs and anus. So.
Oh so basically your youryour glutes, the perineum.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
So they would,a blade would hash through that.
And put it in the gooch. Yeah.
But at the Gooch,
further indignitywas inflicted by surgeons
inserting their fingersor surgical instruments into the rectum or

(46:53):
urethra to assistin the removal of the stones.
It was an intenselypainful procedure. Yeah.
The mortality rate of about 50%. Oh,
fuck.
The, the think of it.
Oh, like fucking much pain you'd haveto be in to be signing up for this.
Well, half of all people die.
It's just incredibly torturous. Wow. Okay.

(47:13):
I mean, like, fuck.
I got be right here.
It's like, okay, well, all we can dois put a sword in your gooch.
My fingers in your ass.There you go. I mean, listen to me.
Time lapse. The other.
Yeah, yeah.
She drink tomato juice first?If that works.
Yeah. Try, try some fucking cranberry.Yeah, yeah.
Holy moly.
It's all right.

(47:36):
The number.
Oh, it continues after this thing.
But it's just a short little blurb.
The number of sodomy operations performed
began to fall in the 19th century,and it was replaced by word 19th century.
Yeah, that's kind of crazy.
Began to fall.
In the 19th century.They did quite a bit of this. Yeah. Yeah.
It doesn't like a little,do you mean? Yeah. Wait.
And it was replaced by a more humanemethod of stone extraction.

(47:58):
And healthier diets in the 20th century.
Helped make bladder stonesa very too. Well.
That's better. Yeah.
Get some fucking vegetables in themin the mix here.
You want to have somebody ramrodyour gooch?
All right, now it's time to talk about howyou're supposed to eat your vegetables.
Okay? Yeah.
You talk about sleep,and I tell eat vegetables.
Yeah, eat. Some fucking fiber.Bring it down for the day.
Are you going gonna end upwith a little thought of me, guys,
now that's all late.

(48:19):
Lasered the thought of me at this point.
Much safer.
Yeah. Just X-rays through the cage.
Yeah.
Bro. No.
Okay.
Number four is rhinoplastyand in brackets, old school.
Oh, no.
None of that nose, no school.
The new school.
No school.
Yeah. No school, which is.
Yeah. Just no school at all. Just me. I'm.

(48:40):
They didn't have.
It back then.
Syphilis arrived in Italyin the 16th century,
possibly carried by sailors returningfrom the newly appointed American.
The so-called Columbian exchange.
Oh, my God.
The sexually transmitted diseasehad a number of cruel
symptoms,one of which was known as saddle nose.
Okay, or the bridge of the nose collapses.

(49:03):
The nasal deformity was an indicator
of indiscretions,and many used surgery to try and hide it.
Oh, no. An Italian surgeon.
I'm just going to call himdropsy D'Alessio,
because I'm not going to pronouncehis name any better than that.
Developed a methodfor concealing the nasal deformity.
He created a new nose using tissuefrom the patient's arm.

(49:23):
He would then cover thiswith a flap of skin from the upper arm,
which was rather awkwardlystill attached to the limb.
Once the skin graft was firmly attached.
After about three weeks, the Lazio wouldseparate the skin from the arm twist.
You get your nose stuck.
To your arm three. Weeks so that itwouldn't die when you like, transplant it.
I guess.
So being smart I guess,but very uncomfortable and horrible.

(49:45):
Yeah, just justjust sleep it off for three weeks. Yeah.
Oh, there were reported cases of patientsnoses turning purple and cold winter.
Well, Luigi, like, pull your,
We'lldo it a couple times through the door
and I forgot a few.
Anyway, there were.
Reported cases of patientsnoses turning purple in cold winter months

(50:06):
and falling off. No, it is.
Today, syphilis is easilytreated with a course of antibiotics.
Nope. There we go.
That you could get from your boss. Yeah.
No problem.
No problem at all. Okay.
And the last one, numberfive. Bloodletting.
So losing blood in modern medicineis generally considered to be a bad thing,
For about 2000 years,
bloodletting was one of the most commonprocedures performed by surgeons.

(50:29):
The procedure was do it.
Oh, yeah.
Do it. Yeah, I can, we can.
Some of this men do it? Yeah,they do a monthly.
The procedure was basedon a flawed scientific theory that humans
possessed four humors, fluids,
the humors.
Yeah.
The humors, which is blood,phlegm, black bile and yellow bile.
And an imbalance in these humorswas thought to result in disease.

(50:52):
Lancet blades or flames?
Phlegm. Flames.
Some spring loaded for added oomph.
We're using.
Loaded flames.
Damn. Turning into a fucking doctor.
Seuss.
Go on.
I don't know if we were used to open.
Superficial veins and in some cases,arteries to release blood over

(51:14):
several days in attempt to restore balanceto these vital fluids.
Bloodletting in the West continued upuntil the 19th century.
In 1838, Henry Cutter Block Clutterbuck,
a lecturer at the Royal Collegeof Physicians, claimed that bloodletting
is a remedy which, when judiciouslyemployed, it is hardly possible
to estimate too highlywhat the fact that even just say.

(51:37):
You can't, estimated to highly.
You like, I don't know.
Maybe he was the first to sayhe doesn't think it's worth going to work.
Oh I babies so just seems likea bunch of bamboozle words.
Yeah, it's a little strange.
The flames were spring loaded for addedcheer.
Thanks, Henry Clutterbuck.
Finally, one medical proceduredating from one of the earliest

(51:58):
Egyptian medical textsthat isn't used anymore.
And I can't for the life of me think,
why is the administration of half an onionin the froth of beer?
It cures death.
Apparently, that's just how this ends.
Okay, half an onion and a froth of beer.
Yeah.
That everybody was dead could save youif you have death coming your way here.
What he probably wantsis, like half an onion and a beer.

(52:18):
Yeah, yeah. Just the froth. Really? Yeah.
That'll. That'll bring you back to life.
Okay. Well, what do you think of those?
I don't know, so.
Any time you triggeranything that you knew that
they did back in the day, that was
kind of an boozled to.
Just.
We need to bloodlettingmore is what I'm thinking.
Or lobotomized.
Yeah. I don't know. It'sthat's just horrifying.

(52:39):
I don't even like joking about that.
Looks brutal. Icepick in the eye.
Extremely fuckedup. It's very terrible up the nose.
I thought it was tradition.Done up the nose. I don't.
Know, we'll take a screen.
A while since I've done it. I.
Well.
Fair enough.
Okay.
Well, that's, That's the the doctorsare just fucking so ridiculous, right?

(53:00):
Like you,
the doctor, like, takes your pulseand have maybe,
like, an elevated heart ratebecause there's, like, a guy
sticking his finger on your neck,and he's about to be
told you have a demon in your skull,and you need to have, like,
some kind of crazy surgerythat no one's really ever survived.
And it's like,this is what you're doing, right?
And he's like, looks at you.And he's like, too much blood.

(53:21):
I like fuck yeah.
I knew it was too much blood. All right,let's get some of that out of there.
Yeah, yeah, I think I need more black bileif you have any.
I do try and like, injecta bit of black bile and replace my blood
with some yellow and black bile,because then my humors will be intact.
Yeah, it's like old school. Shocker.
There's not enough. Phlegm.
If you could offer some phlegm. Yeah.
They just keep phlegm in a tankif you want. Yeah.

(53:42):
Inject that into your bloodstream.
Super metallic properties. Oh, man.
For people. Yeah.
Trying to help other people.
They're like,
they're like, it's for their own good toputting, like, leeches and shit on other,
babies and stuff.
Like, it's for his own good. Yeah.
You have to be believing your crazy ass.
So it's like,who taught you and why and what?
What is what he taught them.They're learning.

(54:03):
Yeah. God, they're learning on peoplewho are just dying.
They're like, well,we won't do it that way again. Yeah.
Back to the drawing board. Yeah.
Unless they are. Oh wait.
They may have been a witch.
Yeah. That's what. Yeah.They had a demon in their hand.
Probably what it was.
At least we got the demon out of it.
It's horrible
that they have a huge hole in their skullnow for the rest of their life.

(54:23):
And their little years. At least. Yeah.
At least.
Okay.
They got a good two years after that.
One more demon free. Yeah.
Well, anyways, that's all I got, man.
One of these dayswe're going to talk about something
nice, fluffy and happy on this podcast.I don't know when.
My man. On to not cynical.
I'm a humanitarian,but they're disgusting.
I'm disgusting.I just it just makes me happier.

(54:44):
So, you know, it makes you freak.That's not the word.
It is. You appreciate what you got, right?
It's true. I do appreciate what I've got.
Which is no holes so far that are notnatural in my skull, that I can think of.
The right number of blood. No.Have I have.
The right number of blood still?
I think it's 12.
But anyway.
There's no stonesand nobody finger in your kitchen.

(55:05):
Blade in your gooch. Pretty.Speak for yourself. Yes.
Okay, well, I can say that for myself.
Right. All right.
But other than that, yeah.
No, I it just makes me count
my blessings that we don't livein, prehistoric times where the.
The Neolithic. Times. Yeah. Neolithic.
That sounds like.
Oh, we're the 30s or the 30s. Yeah.
That's terrifying.
Here's a wide range.
Neolithic, for some reason.

(55:26):
Makes methink of cyber saber, saber tooth, tigers.
All this crap.
Know that? No.
That's prehistoric.I think that's like the ice age.
Yeah.
No, but I all that makes me think of,like, all these,
medical mishaps where people believedthis would help and blah, blah, blah.
I mean, yeah, there's a lotof more proven science now, but it just
all it makes me think is that in 50 years,we're going to look back and be like,

(55:47):
they were doing that. Yeah. Like,you know. It's not.
To as big of a of a degree.
But they'll be like
look they used to have to stick the needleright into somebody's skin, you know.
And now they're like, look,we just take these little like
little like fucking,you know, like a stapler.
Yeah.
That goes to and like,puts in a little pill
that will dissolveinto your flesh or whatever.
And so you don't have to actuallylike to know.
Yeah, I guess it's still. The same thing.But anyway, I don't know.

(56:09):
That's my imagination. Yeah.
They're gonna have a staplerinstead of a fucking needle.
To administer. It.
Basically the same way I needle does.
This guy's a. Revolutionary, I guess.
Bill, I over here.
So the Neolithic or new Stone ageis an archeological period,
the final division of the Stone agein Europe, Asia, Mesopotamia and Africa,
which started 10,000BC and end date 2200 BC.

(56:31):
So there you go.
There you go.What are you. Gonna tell a long time ago?
Now y'all know. No.
The last 1200 year or 12,000 years.
They were doing that whole the head thingfor a.
Long fucking time.
That's what I'm saying, dude.
Yeah, man.
When did it finally click in? Yeah.
That that wasn't that wasn't it?
It's still big.Guys are like. I don't know though.
Well, you.
Just drilled enough holes.

(56:54):
Yeah.
The odds are.
Against one of these peopleis going to get helped by this.
It's not a hundred stitches statistically.
Yeah. This has got to work for somebody.
Yeah. Okay.
Anything else you wanna add?Plus it's fun. What?
Anything else you wanna add?
What seems good, man.
Seems really good.
That's a good one.
I want to thank two magnets,greatest capes and, the waffle pizza.
Guys.

(57:14):
If I could escape. Yeah. Yeah, totally.
So thanks for bringing all that stuff.
I was just sort of tired.
I just, you know,there's a lot to bring us at the gym.
Always, always, always happyto play this morbid bullshit.
Cool Taco Bell. And it's just like.
And I was like, oh, there's like,one more thing
that I was going to bring,which was that true crime case.
I'm like, yeah, man, that's morbid too,
because I try and like,chalk it up with some, like.

(57:34):
I've been missing you.
That area we hung out the other day,but I haven't seen you as much lately, so.
Yeah, we've been able.
To get some more casts going.
It's been busy, you know. Life to see.
We get walking up shot.But these guys don't want to hear it.
Yeah. They don't, they don't care.They're they're. Busy too.
They're just like give me more.Yeah I'm seeing more.
Tremors, more trigger warnings,more disgusting facts about horrible
people who drill holes and heads.Let's do it.

(57:55):
I mean, you got to by now.
You got to kind of they get it.
Expect kind of what you're getting into.
Yeah.
I think maybe I'll do 180 next timeand just totally just
just the coolest shit on earth.
No. No, we don't wanna talk about that.
Okay? No. Never mind.We don't talk about cool shit.
In the head.
Yeah, only until. Late in the good.
Lady holes in the head.
We wish you a merryChristmas. Love you guys.

(58:17):
It's early.
For that. Yeah.
We'll see you then. We'll see you beforethat last Christmas. Absolutely.
Okay. Okay.
Please, guys. Bye.
Love you. Bye.
How does a ringing.
Ding dong ding.
What will we find in our adventures?

(58:37):
And patch of.
And curry powder and jambalaya.
Roti.
Go now.
Shaun.
Go, go!

(59:00):
The men go.
Our men. And then,

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