TrMF #36 – Habitable Planets WE MAY BE ABLE TO LIVE ON! 5 Men Trapped In an Underwater Oil Pipe and the 1974 David Cassidy Disaster

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Its been a minute.  

Life has been regular, and we have been away from the mic.. 

BUT we are BACK once again... and it is just as much of a downer as it always is. 

FIRST! Earth-like exoplanets, Habitable plants WE COULD live on... ( if we could time warp) 

For a planet to be considered potentially life-friendly, it must be relatively small and rocky, and it must orbit within the habitable or "Goldilocks" zone of its star. Not too hot, not too cold, but jussssst human friendly. Futurama has been calling the future WAY more than the Simpsons. 

THEN The Terrifying Paria Diving Disaster: 5 Men Trapped In an Underwater Oilpipe 

5 professionally trained divers were doing work off the coast of Pointe-a-Pierre, in Trinidad and Tobago, for Paria Fuel Trading Company. Who had contracted them out to do some repairs on an out-of-service oil line. The horrifying story of 5 men being sucked into a deep underwater oil pipe, trapped and left by the very company they worked for. TRIGGER WARNING. 

And we wrap up with how the hysteria of a David Cassidy concert once led to a young woman's death and the creepy real-life story about what happened on the night of May 30, 1974. 

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Daniel Emmanuel. What's up? Oh.

(00:01):
The billionaire. It's been too long,my man. How are you?
Yeah, it's been a hiatus.
This is one of those ones where we canactually ask, like, how you been, man?
How are you?
I moved to a new house,so that's been my preoccupied ness.
Same city, different house.
Yeah. I have to drive.
Not up the road, but now I have to driveall the way into Esquimalt.
Yes, yes.

(00:22):
Put you on blast.
Everyone's going to come because
if you want to do a podcast with me,show me your.
Yeah, there they come.
There's the whole crowd of them out therewhipping out their boobs already.
Yeah, look at that.Whipping out their boobs.
Just whipping them away.
Wow. Yeah, man, I know it's been good.
Just been a month in the new place.
And that's kind of where the.
I would say part of my reasonfor being less available.

(00:44):
It looks good in here, man.
It looks like you guys have been workinghard on, unpacking and moving in,
but some people are like,yeah, we just moved in
and there was just like,a stack of boxes everywhere. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, no. We're trying our ass off.
And we just like amalgamateda three story house
and my two bedroom houseinto one one bedroom house.
So we got to get rid of a bunch of shit.
It is condensed. Yes.

(01:04):
Yeah.
So, yeah, if you're looking
if you know anybody looking for a stand upcello, stand up bass, wine rack.
I mean, I got them.
It is coolas hell, but I don't know what I would do.
What would I put in there?
You could just put,like, snacks in each of the wine hold.
There's snacks don't last very long. Yeah.
Those are just annoying waysto forget where my snacks are.

(01:24):
Yeah. Roaches.
I don't even smoke roaches anymore.
See, this is the thing.
Like I'm graduated pastcaring about keeping roaches
now so I don't even smokeall the weed that I have.
Like, I have some really nice weed.
Yeah, I got a whole bunch of it
at home, and it's like,I just don't even have time for the roach.
Yeah, I don't even have timeto smoke the weed I have. It's going dry.

(01:45):
Like within the time. Like, fair enough.
I'm giving it awayto people at work and stuff.
Okay. Here, check this out.
Try this one.
The dope man is here.
Yeah, which is funnybecause I sell weed for a living.
But the dope man is always
bring other weed in for peopleto try here from 9 to 5.
This. It's amazing.
Yeah. Rad. Dude,how've you been? I'm good.
I was talking to you earlier.
This is a funny anecdoteI was mentioning earlier

(02:06):
about how I hate peoplewho make mouth noises
while they're selecting a productat my work.
So I am, I work,there's, like, a screen in the counter.
It's very high tech and cool. It'sjust a TV screen that I control.
The little,
keyboard thing that shows like, you know,someone says, oh, I want pre-rolls.
I bust out all the pre-rolls
and I show them what we have,and it's very cool, dude. You're right.
But when they're when they're checking,I've noticed that there's, like,

(02:26):
a sound that humans like to makeor some annoying humans like to make.
And it's like a.
Let's see if they're calling over a cat.
Like, they just make mouth noisesand they have cottonmouth.
I don't know, they they'rethey are just like, well,
they haven't bought the weed yet,so they probably don't.
I mean, they probably just ran out,but even still. Yeah, true.
But even still, like, it's like

(02:48):
I think that they just don't knowhow like wet and gross
it sounds like in their, in their head,it's like a little clicking noise, like,
let's see what I'm gonna get here.
You, you, you know, and and also the guys,
it's a bold move when I, dude is insome kind of mood where he's humming.
But there's music on and he's not humminganything to do with the music at all.
Dude, dude, it's like, okay.

(03:09):
Yeah.
What are you doing, man?
You're trying to appear happy. Like,what's happening right now.
You're mad.
My life isn't over yet, dude.
Did you get some weed? See?
Let's see.
I'm sorry, I that's.
I'm really sorry to do thatto the people who are listening right now
for hoarding the kind of shitthat I cannot stand.

(03:29):
Like, stop clicking and sucking on yourteeth and making horrible clicking noises.
What are you selecting a doobie?
I do also work in the retail space,and I have there's one guys in particular
like the majority of the people are fine,but the one guy it's like, but it's like
slack jaw.It's like he's like a slack guy.
Just oh, he's got
like and moves his jaw like a like a cowchewing cud.

(03:50):
Okay, this all gets like thisother guy know who you're talking to.
And he just always comes in.
He gets his malt liquor,and he's always just like.
And he looks like he's just, like,doesn't give a shit about anything.
He just might be chewing on dentures.
Like,he might be, like, sucking on it. Maybe.
But he justlooks like a slack jawed yokel.
Like I'mnot try to be mean or anything like that,
but he just always, like he liveunaware, has a relaxed jaw
to where he looks dumbbecause of his, like, open agape face.

(04:11):
And it's always like he's always.
And he doesn't say wordsand he just walks and buys his beer.
Looks like he's not up to much.
He drinks every morning like,
yeah, those people are just not reallyinterested in worrying about my comfort.
You know, as a cashier or whatever.
They know they don't have to think of themat all. No, I don't give a shit.
That's fine. That's also fair.But I definitely hate them.
Yeah, I do, I do.
Yeah. I'm just like, oh man.

(04:32):
Somebody said that my work to the do,they were like, well,
I just don't go out of my wayto be nice anymore.
I just, you know, I'm real with people
and I don't put on a customer voiceor whatever.
I'm just straight up with people nowadaysand, you know, whatever.
I'm just like,I'm thinking in my head. I'm like, K,
there are no
rules that say you have to be extrapolite or extra nice, right?
No, there are no rules. I mean,
but there are consequences to that, right?

(04:53):
It's just like breaking the law.
You don't really have to.
Technically, physically, nothing isstopping you from just breaking the law.
Yeah, but there are just going to beconsequences, right?
Just like when you break social laws,
like sucking on your teethand making gross wet noises,
and also not being polite to a customerand just being like, what do you want?
Yeah. It's like,oh well, oh, some people respect that.

(05:14):
It's like, yeah, great.
They some people respect that,but a lot of people don't.
A lot of people think thatthat's not cool. Yeah.
And they do appreciate mebeing a little bit cordial at work.
You know. And the way I look at itis there are consequences.
We both know you're an assholeif you want, but, you know, like, legally,
you can be an asshole.
But at the same time,we're going to have to happen, right?
Isn't it? Yeah.
I mean, you've been in retailfor a long time, and, like,
I like I mean, not to sound like I'm underthe man's boot or anything like that,

(05:37):
but at the end of the day,I signed up to work there.
They didn't had me to work for them.
It's not like
I was a pro NBA player or from collegebasketball player in the NBA scouted me.
We need this man and customer service.
He is the best.
Oh, I applied for a job there.
Yeah, I headhunted you myself.
That's right. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah.You actually are on me.
That's kind of funny that you did. Whoa.
Where did I come from?What do you do, little guy?

(05:59):
Really cool.
Must be getting the spiders.
Come with me. Yeah, well, underneath my.
Yeah. I'll be back.Let's put them on side.
Awfully nice of you. Oh, he jumped off.
Okay, well, awfully nice for you to try.
Well,
he'll probably appear on me again.
Oh, here he is.
There he where you go, it'll burn.

(06:19):
That'll. It'll go inside yet.
Brad, we're safe again. Thanks.
Thanks for your help, Crowley.
One more spider in the world.
Yeah.
Anyways, okay, so I like I'msaying with customer service.
Long story short,I feel like I applied for a job
and part of the part of the jobrequirements.
Part of the job descriptionis for me to be courteous to customers.
I'm doing customer service.

(06:40):
Yeah.
You don't just live here and they happento show up till it's I applied for a job.
The part of the I feel like that.
But yeah is to beis to do customer service,
which is directly being respectfuland courteous to customers.
Yeah. You don't have to go over the topand big.
Yeah, yeah.
That's the other thing too.
When people like smileoh a smile goes a long.
But you read the person right.
Part of being in customer service isyou know how to read people, right?

(07:00):
If some like big trades worker comes inand he's like just got off the phone
and he's like,
you know, like he's all pissed offor don't be like, so how's your day going?
You know, are you having a good day?
Two just like me,you know, like no, can't have it.
Yeah. Exactly.
Right.
Like, how about youjust can sell him the bottle and say, yep,
have a good one, man. Yeah, exactly.Just read the real man.

(07:21):
And some people can't, which is fairenough.
That's their standard that way. Yeah.
But so or you know,there might be the guy who goes,
oh man, I tell you some, some people, man.
And then you're like, okay,well what's going on, man?
You know, and then they dumpall their trauma dump on you,
everything they have, all this fucking guyand blah, blah, blah.
And that makes
about ten minutes of my shiftgo by saying, you know, that's awesome.
I don't mind when people tell mepersonal things open to sympathizing.

(07:43):
I don't know what much I can do fromthe other side of a till, but just listen.
But yeah, that's what I do.And then I just go, hey. Yeah. Sorry, man.
Yeah. Or woman or whoever almost.
We know this. Oftentimespeople just need to vent.
Oftentimes people just need to vocalize itto hear themselves say it to
so that they feel okay.
And then you being there as a witnessmeans
that they're not crazyand talking to themselves.

(08:03):
Yeah, right.
So they're just saying like,you know, this guy,
he needs to fucking figure it outand blah, blah, blah.
And you're like, yeah, man.Hopefully things work out.
And you know,they say a really general wish for them,
you know, like,hopefully things look up, man.
Like,I know your day is about to get better.
Don't worry about it, man. You're okay.
Walks out, but like, hit by a busif there's a little.
Yeah. Right.
Damn, I was wrong on that.
At leastI made him feel good for a minute.

(08:23):
Yeah, I did my part.
Yeah. We can't do everything, Dylan.
You can't save everybody.
Fair enough.
But, I mean, like, if a little, tiny
little pair of old ladies who are having,like, a nice Sunday shopping
time are like. Oh, and what's this one?
And what's this one, then
I'm probably going to crack a few sillydad jokes and make them laugh.
I'm probably going to, you know,
take them through the whole gamutand teach them about.
That's why you were headhunted.
This is why I was selected.

(08:45):
I was taken out of my doctor'spractice. Yeah.
To be a customer servicefor a true calling. Yeah.
That's true. I said I'd never goback to heart surgery again.
Yeah, no, it's cool, but, Yeah. No.
Fair enough.
That's, Yeah.
Just don't make sucking, like.
Yeah, wet noises with your mouth aroundother human beings with ears.
Courtesy for us. Yeah.
Okay. So,

(09:07):
anyways, I was a long intro.We're both doing well.
I love hearing good I. Yeah.
Welcome to these are my.
These are my These were one.
All right. And we're back into it.
So what I have on tap for todayI'm going to let you.
You got anything on tap?
No. I came horribly unpreparedbecause, I've been busy.
And then again, you aren't busy ever.
No, I'm not.
You don't have two jobs in this roomuntil you come around.

(09:29):
And then I get go.
I plug you back into the wall and.
And we go, so I got a couple differentsubjects that I want to rap about.
I think it's fun.
On the first episode,back in about a little while,
there's
apparently 22 to 24, which I'msure you might have heard of.
Have Biddle had?
Oh, my God. Habitable.

(09:50):
Oh, habitable.
Habitable.
Jesus Christ,planets like that are outside.
There's a hab habitable zonewith planets in it.
Planets? Yeah.
They said plants. No.
Planets, habitable planets.
Fuck can inhabit this planet.
Habitable planet too? Yes.

(10:11):
The whole planet. Habitable planet,habitable planet.
Might say.
That sounds funny to say.
Now have habitable in inhabitable.
No habitable like it. We can go there.
Is that not habitable?
Yeah. We inhabit.
Please. Oh, inhabit.
Are they said un habitable?
No, that's not a word.
And I'm uninhabitable is a word.

(10:32):
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Oh, habitable.
That's just what? Well,we have to stop saying that word. Yeah.
Oh, my God, it means. Anyways,there's planets we could live on. Yeah.
So that's part of the thingwe're going to try and.
But if you think.
But don't you think okaywe're going to look into it obviously.
But do you think thatif there was a planet
and I heardit was much larger than Earth, right.
Yes. So
we imagine that the things that, you know,you know, light years away.

(10:54):
Well, sure.
But that's good.
But, basically, like,you know, the bigger
the fish tank, the biggerthe fish grow, right?
Oh, yeah.
Population. Yeah.
So not just the populationthe size of the creature.
So you imagine what might live on a planetthat was way
bigger than Earth, 12ft super spiders.
Spiders?
Yeah.

(11:14):
12ft super spider.
Dude. Honestly, there might be.
Okay.
Okay, the next thing we're going to gointo is the terrifying
para diving disaster.
Five men trapped in an underwater oilpipe.
Whoa, whoa.
Yeah, it just might be my worst nightmare.
I watched a video on itrecently, and I had to talk about it
because it's like, whoa!

(11:34):
Holy moly.
Okay, and then the third thing I have is the 18.
Sorry. I click on urgency.That's for the trigger warning. Six.
Oh, yeah. Trigger warning. Triggerwarning. Trigger warning? Of course.
And then the last big thing I have is,the 1974 David Cassidy, disaster.
He was at a, stadiumshow, and shit happened.
Okay, so, yeah, shit went down,some shit went down.

(11:59):
Okay, so the first thing is the habitat.
Oh, my God.
Habitable,the inhabitable, the inhabitable planet
which is under, classifyingzone called the habitable zone.
Habitable zone.
Oh my God.
Anyways, the definition of habitablezone is the distance from a star
at which liquid watercould exist on orbiting planet surfaces.

(12:20):
Habitable zones are also knownas Goldilocks zones, where conditions
might be just right.
Not too hot, not too cold for life.
So there's a zonewhere it's not too close to any stars.
Yeah,they called the Goldilocks zone here.
And it's like a rare thing to find.
You think it would be
a pretty rare thing to find untilyou realize how very many stars there are.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
But, like,all it takes is one star to be like,

(12:42):
I don't know, a couple feet tooclose to the siding. You're all burnt.
And you'd think that.
Yeah, but the thing about itis they're constantly moving away, right.
So. Right.
That means that or toward I guess.
But the point is that they're slowlymoving all the time, right?
So when something is movingslowly through,
that means at a certain point it'sguaranteed to be at that Goldilocks zone.

(13:04):
But then it and it kind of goes right.
But during those times,that means every star with a planet
circling it, that planet at some pointin time will end up in a Goldilocks zone.
It's not as rare as we think,is what I'm saying.
Oh, why would it be?
Because they all end up in,
a certain correct distance awaywhere water would be liquid, right?
Totally.
And it's just cool to think of it.

(13:25):
You think, oh, it's so rare that theGoldilocks zone, everything's just right.
But that's only because at this pointin time, ours is the right distance away.
At a certain point, we won't be. Yeah.
And you know, another one will be.
So and at some point, the world'sgonna probably be too close to the sun.
It's too far away from the sun.We're moving away right now.
It's like expanding outwards. Right.
So the ice age too? Well, it would be.
I would just forever.

(13:45):
Yeah. Yeah I think yeah.
Some of the other kind of thing happenswhere we get smacked back into orbit
or whatever. Who knows?
Hey, look at this. Another sun.
Yeah, yeah.
Here we go.
Habitable.
Habitable. Okay.
Habitable. Habitable.
Yeah. You've been doing great. Awesome.It just sounds weird.
It sounds like.
Like I'm Bill Cosby.
And maybe to be ableto be able to probably, like,

(14:07):
I don't know, I could be thatthis is a great Bill Cosby impression.
That's what it sounds likewhen he's getting bent over in the shower.
Oh, God. Bro.
Anyways, thing that ever happened to him.
No, they got him out in time.
They got in time,so was just about to get up.
Oh, darn. Button box.
Yeah. Sweet.
Bill Cosby.

(14:28):
I mean, you just wait for him in there.
He does look kind of like a bag of skin.
He's. He's old.
Yeah.
So fuck that guy.
Fuck that guy. Yeah. Honestly.
Okay, so the first one on
the list is the gazelle six, six,seven Sisi.
It lies just 22 light years from Earth.
That's a far away. Away, isn't it?

(14:49):
Any one light year is the time it takes
for or sorry, the distancethat light can travel in one year.
Holy shit.
So we can't get to that. Oh,we can't get to that.
Oh, we can't even go one light year awayright now with our current technology.
Of course. So 20.
So it lies just 22 light years. Okay.
And it is at least 4.5 times
as massive as Earth, according to NASA'sJet Propulsion Laboratory.

(15:13):
So just take everything on Earthand scale it up four times.
Yeah.
So you have, like, baseball beesflying around, but this is not good.
Okay.
Yeah, it's a little fucked.
Yeah.
Gazelle completes one orbitaround its host star in a mere 28 days.
But that star is a red dwarf,

(15:33):
considerably cooler than the sun.
So the exoplanet is thought to liein the habitable zone.
However, Giselle discoveredusing the European Southern Observatory
3.6m telescope might orbit close
enough to its red dwarfstar to be scorched by flares.
So that kind of body.

(15:54):
Yeah. Radiation is being microwaved a lot.
It's just a random like a flashsolar flare comes on.
It's like oh God.
Just everything'sCalifornia gets melted too.
Yeah.
Take care of the bees though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's that's one of them.
So to me, I guess it's like

(16:14):
it's up for discussion.
What habitable, habitable fuck means.
Yeah, I mean, damn, I'm pretty sure.
Wait, what was that?
There was a I
can't remember what
it was.
Some sci fi, basically where.
Yeah, they found another Earth.
They found an incredible Earth.
But they when they got there,they were like, you know,

(16:36):
six foot ants and like, you know,eight foot spiders and stuff like that.
Because all of the oh,this was a sci fi movie.
I can't remember what it wasfrom a story or a movie.
We're basically.
Yeah, the size of the planet was so hugeand the oxygen was so rich.
Pardon me.
It was so rich and dense
that everything was able to growto incredible sizes comparatively.
And so,

(16:57):
yeah, you can go there, but it would beI think it was Mass Effect actually.
I think there was the game Mass Effectand you used to be able to go,
from planet to planet and there werecertain planets you couldn't land on.
But what you could do is drop these probes
because they were like gasplanets and stuff,
and you would find deposits of mineralsand whatever.
So you could, like, launch a little probe,based on where it would go.

(17:18):
And one of the stories,like all of the planets and stuff,
even the ones you couldn't goto, had awesome write ups and stuff.
So I'd read all those.
And I think on one of them it was like,yeah, we sent an expedition here
because this was a potential Goldilocks,you know, life supporting planet,
and we didn't hear anything
back from the team ever againbecause it was basically just like insane,
like Giants giant insects everywherelike this.

(17:41):
Not a not a place we can go without.
Like an insane war first. Yeah.
Like you need to exterminate everything.
Like, what's,
Starship Troopers in order to even, like,find a place to live on the start.
Yeah.
You want a tank sized scorpionripping through your life village?
No, thanks.
Those are just the bugs. Like, let's.
You know what else is out therein the open stuff.

(18:02):
Yeah, but, I mean, a bear.
A bear would not be ableto beat a huge scorpion the size of it.
Yeah, you know, that's true.
Like, it's not like anythingcould become a mammal on that planet.
But I don't think I think that everythingjust eats itself and is a giant insects.
But anyway, that's a cool concept.
That is a very cool concept.
So the next one on the list is the Kepler20 tube.
Sounds like something from Futurama.

(18:28):
I hereby place an order for one cheesepizza.
One pie.
Nothing good on it.
Name I period.
See. Period. Winner.
Talk a little louder.
Sounds like it got some kind of tinyhead on you or something.
Yeah. That's Kepler.
Futurama does name stuff in a sci fi way.
Yeah, yeah. See, I knew it.

(18:48):
It lies a mere 600 light years away,that's all.
It was the first Kepler planetfound in the habitable zone.
Hop, skip and warp. Yeah,
not skip nor buddy.
Okay, so, like, so.
So, you know, to the to the, point of warping, right?
Yeah.
So they've discovered and we've orat least, you know, through mathematics.

(19:09):
I really barely understand this. Right.
But tight time is a fabric, right?
It's something that can bethat moves around in a non-linear way
at all dimensions.
Maybe even a fourth dimension that maybethe fourth dimension or whatever. Right?
So in a way that we can't really perceive,it moves through other objects in space.
But so imagine you could find somethingthat would while you're standing
where we are right here,

(19:30):
you find somethingthat makes essentially a wormhole or pulls
spacetime like a blanket.
Like basically imagine you put your finger down
and then you fold a blanket overto where your finger is.
Yeah.
You just walk one finger spaceover onto that and let it go back.
Now you're over here, right.
So that would be the waythat you would warp with your finger.

(19:50):
Demonstration.
I understood what you're saying.
I think it'd be a little harder for people
listening to,you know, the concept usually. Right.
So, like, you know,
you take the fabric of time as thoughit's a blanket, fold it to where you're
standing, step across onto the fold,and then let it unfold again.
And you know you're already over there.Yeah, it wouldn't propeller.
You'd already be.
Oh, it would just, it would expand backand you would just be standing

(20:12):
at 100 light years awayor whatever. Right.
So this is the only waythat I could imagine us moving that great
of a distance, how we would do it,what would happen to us during it?
I don't know, the other scaryconcept of us makes it right.
The other the other conceptthat's scary is, they figure,
you know, and in Star Trek,when you see them.
I mean, we talked about thiswhen in Star Trek, when you see them go
and, like, disappear and then they're beam them somewhere else, right?

(20:36):
Oh, isn't it somebody dying. You. Yeah.
There's a body dying.
That's like a distinct possibilitythat we would have no way of knowing.
Right. Is that. Did yourself just die?
And then a perfect copy of yourselfwith all your same memories, cells,
energy, everything that you just didfor breakfast, blah, blah, blah up
here, over there now.
And that's a different man. And conscious.
Oh yeah, they would be the same, right?

(20:56):
It would be you,for all intents and purposes.
But it isn't becauseyou just got incinerated.
Yeah.
If I, you know, stepped on the pad,I would be.
And I'm not a religious man by any means,but I would be with God,
and then somebody elsewould be walking in my shoes.
Your exact same self would be carrying onwithout you.
Potentially.
And I would be seeing blackand he would be seeing white.

(21:17):
We don't know. Fuck.
That's. I'd be like, no thanks,I'll just walk. I'll take the bus.
Take the bus 11 light years away.
Go the Greyhound a work contract on.
So 22 or whatever it is. Yeah.
Anyway, that's it's scary.
This is scary shit.
Okay, so Kepler found in the Habib,but fuck Habib's zone.
The living zone.

(21:38):
The twilight zone.Fuck of its parent star.
But the world.
The world is considerably larger thanEarth, about 2.4 times our planet side.
It's unclear if this super Earth planetis rocky, liquid or gaseous.
Kepler 20 twos B's orbit
of 290 daysis fairly similar to Earth 365.
The exoplanet orbits a G-Class star

(22:00):
like our sun, but this star is smallerand colder than Earth,
so and then the next one is 2700light years away.
So anyways, so there's a list of five thatapparently we can potentially live on.
It's pretty amazing that they have managedto locate these things like, yeah, like,
holy shit,I didn't see into space like that
and then find it
and then learn about itenough to know like,

(22:20):
oh yeah, that one's got probably someliquid water, meaning life most likely.
Right. Incredible.
But then if we ever get to itand we drink it like that was antifreeze
or something, you never know. Yeah.
You don't startby drinking whatever it is.
Yeah.
An ocean of plasma. Great.
Just hop off the ship,take a big cup of plasma first.

(22:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,we just breathe the whole lung
full of the air and just, like, expandinto a fucking balloon, explode.
I should not have inhaled that.
Yeah. Oh, fuck. Completelyunknown elements.
Like, anything you want to add to that?
Because that wraps up our habitable bubble
section.
Well, like I said, it's, it's a long timebefore we figure out how to get there,

(23:03):
but I don't know, Stephen Hawking said I,it's going to be the death of humanity.
Right? But maybe he. What?
He doesn't even know that he meant.
I'm sure he means thatthey're all going to take over us
and enslave us and annihilate us.
But maybe what it is is the end ofhumanity, though, as we know it, right?
Yeah. Maybe it's the age of the cyborg.
Pardon me?The age of the cyborg is actually here.

(23:26):
Based on how we cannot put down our cellphones, essentially part of our body.
If you leave your cell phone at homefor the day,
you feel really weird and bad,like you left a part of yourself at home.
You know,
and you'd have way less capabilitiesthan everyone else around you.
Everyone elsewho knows the time instantly.
Everyone knows the weather.Everyone knows what their friend is doing.
Anyone can be reached, but except youif you don't have your phone.

(23:46):
Right. So this is already.
We're pretty close to cyborg hood.
Yeah,
and I think that, you know, maybe we startincorporating AI into our own selves
so that we can instantly Google thingsin our own mind really quickly.
And everyone just has accessto all knowledge right now.
That would be weird.What would we talk about?
Probably higher concepts, right?
If we already know all this stuff, thenit's pointless to talk about mundane day

(24:10):
to day things and experiencesand people making mouth noises
and all this stupid stuff,because already everyone.
Podcast.
Yeah, I know, that'swhat I'm saying. Right?
So that maybe podcastswill become very important because
everyone will want to slow down and hear
humans talk, because everyone elseis just like data data right now.
But they want to have the real fun,I think.
I think about this.
I'm thinking like,you know, 40 years from now type thing,

(24:32):
when it's less tabooto have a chip in your head
that enhances your thought processes,you totally get it.
It's going to happen over time here.
And I think that maybe,the age of the human will die out
and the something else will be born,you know, and maybe that something else
will be able to come to terms with warpingdoubt.
Yeah.
Downloading or just downloading their mind
into somethingwhich I think is terrifying.

(24:52):
And the great way to create an actual.Hell yeah.
Which is what Elon is doing there.
He's trying to download consciousnessesinto computers, which I think is a really
great way to create an inescapablehell yeah, way to go.
But anyways,
the idea that nobody's everconsciousness is ever going
to get trapped in this databaseand just completely like,
maybe in a pain state,maybe in a boredom state,

(25:14):
maybe just never able to escapefor eternity.
For eternity.Because they're a file. Yeah.
That's terrifying.
That is that is worse than hell.
You know what I mean?So where to go to do that?
So let's hopefullynot end up going down that road.
However, when somebody inevitably takesthis kind of path, right, becomes a cyborg
or full digital,that is what can now travel light years.

(25:35):
All right.
So that can last for light years.
And eventually some human consciousnesswill arrive at this planet.
Maybe with an exo suit that it can walkaround in as a big metal spider.
Who knows what, right?Like it doesn't matter.
But basically I think that, likeStephen Hawking is probably pretty correct
about the end of humanitybeing right around now.
Yeah, and something elseis going to emerge, I guess, like in the

(25:58):
and for sake of concept,
you can send a textacross the world in a millisecond.
Yeah.
So it would be the same sort of ideaon a grandiose of a scale.
Yeah.
Of sending there's a conscious superif there's some receiver over there.
Right. You put a, you pop a,
you figure out how to, like,
almost at the speed of light, shoota, you know, a probe over there.

(26:20):
Yeah.
So hard that it can, like, actuallymake it there in somebody's lifetime,
or it doesn't even matter
because you've downloaded this personalityto to go off in 200 years.
It'll send when the probe gets there.
In 250 years, there will bea consciousness there that wakes up or,
you know, is already going or whatever,and then starts inhabiting that planet.
You're setting up the warp gate,whatever it is, right?

(26:43):
Or just the database of filesthat we now beam from a satellite
to another satellite to another satellite,and then it gets beamed to that planet,
and now our consciousnessis can be downloaded over there,
an entire species of robo humansrises and starts inhabiting that planet.
It's one of the only waysI can think of it happening.
Right? And it's digital, right?How else can we?
We can make our lives longer.It's digital. Yeah.

(27:05):
Very freaky.
Yeah, I do not, by the way,sign up to be any of these consciousnesses
that gets to hurtle through spacefor 250 years, but that's what I'm saying.
Like what?
Even if it was just a moment,
you couldn't promise that personthat they're not going to be aware
for that amount for 250 years?
Yeah, it's like a black mirror updatingit is like a Black Mirror episode.
Yeah. That's black. Just
man, nothing scarierthan the concept of unmanageable time.

(27:28):
Yeah, like that one Black Mirror episodethat I did.
Describe that one time. Yeah.
That to me is the most terrifying thingever to just have time.
That one we're talking about, it'slike the one where the girl is in the box,
in the little box, a little tiny,and he's like, he like,
stop time for a second. But to herit was like three months.
And she said, don't, don't do it again.He's like, I'll give you ten years.
And she's just like,oh, don't do it to him. It's a blip.

(27:49):
Nothing is scarier. Yeah. That's it.
That's the most terrifying BlackMirror episode.
That's the most terrifying scifi yeah, I've ever heard.
That's psychological. Man,that's too much.
Way too much.
Yeah, it's it's actualhell that you've created.
Speaking of hell, we've created, we're going into our first ad break dead.
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(28:11):
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(28:32):
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(28:52):
Oh, Tony. Man.
That's going to leave a mark.
A nice suntan is sexy, but,you know, it's actually,
like, more sexually appealing to womenor men of the other.
Whatever. Whoever you're into.
Not having to answer. No.
When you were able to peelthe first ten layers
of your skin off that new fresh skinunderneath the pink.
Yeah.

(29:13):
That's what it's all about now.
That, raw pink. That molten, slimy pink.
Yeah, that's what it's about.
Yeah, I just dig it. Chicks dig it.
Thanks, Tony.
Trying to go down to the top, to the lakeand get a few layers of skin ripped off
by the sun. Oh,
I can't move.
This hurts. It's perfect.
You're on that.
You're on the beach.I got sand all over this one.

(29:33):
God, this is horrifying.
Yeah, it's a little fucked.
Maybe we better pull Tony's head.
Yeah. Sorry, Tony.
Tony, this is too much.
Yeah,but will you cast your check already? So.
Yeah. Thanks for that. Yeah.
All right. We're not going to do thistanning bed. Yeah.
The scorcher. It's a barbecue.
So the next subject I haveis the terrifying para diving disaster.

(29:53):
Five men trapped in an underwateroil pipe.
I'm going to go under.
Under a pillow for this one. Yeah.
Triggerwarning. Trigger warning. Horrible.
Okay, so, I got to shut out.
Medium is the websitethat has the perfect write up on this.
And then Mr.
Bolin is a guy I watch on YouTube,and he's talked about it a few times, and
it's just one of the most
eerie kind of one of them.

(30:14):
I've watched a lot of shit, and this oneactually sticks with me, so shut up.
Mr. Ball and Mr. Ball and Mr.
B, on the 25th of February, 2022,five professionally trained divers
were doing work off the coast of Pointea pair in Trinidad and Tobago
for Para Fuel Trading Company,who had contracted them out
to do some repairs on an out of serviceoil line. So,

(30:37):
the oil that they're doing,I'm just gonna describe it
for people who are listening. It'sbasically a U-shape.
So the pipe sticks out of the water,it goes down into the water.
Then it takes a hard rightdegree angle, 90 degree angle.
Sorry.
And it goes straight for about.
What is it like 1200 feet?
There's not a lot of curveto those corners.
No. It's just it just boom.

(30:58):
Straight like a right angle to you.
Yeah. Gotcha.
And then it and then it pops out onthe other side and then above the water.
Okay.
So basically because it was inoperable,
the one that was like out to sea,they just left open.
But to prevent random stuffcoming in nearer, closer to the shore,
they put a big balloon in itessentially to like a cork

(31:21):
to cork the other side of the corkand then. Okay. Yeah.
And then they put this air bubble,
man station on top of itand like lowered it underwater.
So then they were basically ceasing itoperations.
It was corked, but it had thislike half bucket on top of it
that created an air pocket with a platformso you could swim

(31:42):
under this,
top bucketthat's covering the, the manhole part.
And you can get up onto,like, a ledge around the pipe
and you're underwater, but it's fully,fully breathable because, like, if you.
So the way Mr.
Bollard described it,which is a perfect, explanation.
If you're sitting in the bathtuband you have a bucket and you pushed it

(32:03):
underwater, there would be an air pocket
that you could stick your hand under itand you'd put you'd be in an area.
There was a movie when I was a kidthat was like a pirate movie.
And one of the ways
that they, like, actually got to the shipwas they put a canoe over their heads.
Yeah.
And they walked in the bottom of the oceanand there's like a
just showthe guy's head, like about a foot of space
that they could put in the boat,that you have an air bubble, right?
So long as you don't run out of oxygenin that little bubble, you can make it,

(32:26):
make it for a while.So yeah. So that's what they did.
So anyway, so there is, that's that's whatit was one poking up out of the water,
one underwater plugged with a half bucketover top of it to create an air pocket.
So if people ever neededto get to it, they could
okay.
So I just set in the story.
So the men were, were were to work ona large underwater U-shaped pipe
like the one pictured above,

(32:46):
but it consists of two risers,one on either
side, up and down on the operational shipswould dock at the first riser berth
five, and the oil would runthrough the pipe to six,
where it was then sucked upinto the refinery for further use.
At at the time of the incident,the men were working in a hyperbaric
hyperbaric chamber.
That's the that's the scientific word

(33:08):
they had created in orderto be able to work and breathe
normally while under water, it pumps airdirectly into an eight by eight foot
workspace, effectively creating a dryand safe environment for the divers.
It's called a habitat belt is whatthe half bucket is called a habitat belt.
Okay, so it's thethat's what it looks like.
It's it's yeah, it's pretty much it'sif you picture a bucket over a pipe.
Yeah. Yeah.If you can think of that. Yeah.

(33:29):
They set up the chamber at birth six,where the repairs for the day
were located.
Finished gearing up for the dive
and jumped into the wateras they would any other day.
Once they made itinto the hyperbolic chamber, they would.
They took their diving gear offand got started right away.
On the first task,removing an airtight plug from the pipe
that protected itfrom allowing oil to escape.
So that oh,
so that's what was so like hyperbariclike a barometer is measures pressure.

(33:50):
Hyperbaric hyper pressured, I guess.
No pressure keeping an air pocket.
Yes. Yeah.
Because yeah, it was pressurized to.
Yeah, yeah.
It did not go as planned on the day,however,
and instead destroyedthe hyperbolic chamber
and immediately sucked all five menand their equipment hundreds of feet
into the unknown darkness of the pipe.
Eve, although badlyinjured, were actually all five men,

(34:12):
ended up in a small air pocketthat formed deep inside the pipe
record, allowing them to breatheand assess the situation.
The entire ordeal
up to this point was captured on a GoProand is available to watch online.
No thanks.
Yeah, I mean, it's oh, it's blackand you just hear them screaming,
but I mean, it's still fuckingemotionally distressing.
Yeah, yeah.
Realizing there was stockand not going to be getting out

(34:35):
any time soon, the men link their legsunder the arms around around the chest.
Oh, yeah. And the pipe was like,I think 2.5ft wide.
So it was tiny, like, yeah,it was like super tiny.
No. Oh bro,these guys are full on heroes.
Yeah. How do you even get near that?That's so brutal.
The.
Yeah.
Link their legs
under the arms and around the chestof the person beneath them,

(34:57):
beginning the harrowing journeyof inching toward freedom.
So they're like legs under arm and, like,
inching backwardsjust to get to a pipe opening
because they knew they had to goone way or the other.
Yep.
The murky
water and oil and complete darknesseventually coming
across a body of water that was too deepfor all five men to enter.
They weren't sure how far the water went.

(35:17):
So like basically how it was describedas like
the pipe that went acrossthe bottom of the 1200.
The horizontal pipe.
Yes, the horizontal pipehad a bit of an air pocket at the top.
It wasn't perfectly straight,
like there's certain partsthat went like this on the bottom.
And so,
so anything that was like slightlycurved had a little bit of an air pocket.
But then,but then there's hundreds of feet
that were perfectly straightand filled with water. With water.

(35:38):
Yeah. In that no air pocket.
So and the other thing toois it's complete darkness.
You can't see any light.
No, you don't know where thehow like you can go into it,
but you don't knowif you're going to hit another air pocket.
Yeah. Or whatever or. Yeah. Exactly. God.
They weren't sure how far the water went.
And with the adrenaline from the situationstarting to wear off, the injuries
of the man and gravity of the situationstarted to become more and more apparent.

(36:00):
Citing their injuries, three of the mendecided to stay behind
while the two men in front that were leastinjured decided to continue onward
without them to try and get them help,
eventuallymaking it to the other end of the water
where they somehow miraculouslyfound an oxygen tank sitting right there.
Whoa!
Yeah, they found an oxygen tank.
Somebody had left a tank.
It was part of their gear.He just got sucked in with them.

(36:20):
Yeah. Okay. Okay.So they took off all their gear.
They miraculouslyfound some of their gear. Yes.
And it wasn't, like, shotout the other end or like, fucking or.
Yeah,
they grabbed the oxygen tankand continued onward,
knowing that their chances of survivalwas getting worse
as air passed until the anxietyand reality of the situation
started to take over, the olderof the two remaining men eventually
completely breaking down in fearand refused to move and any further.

(36:43):
He begged for the last manto stay with him,
but knowing the risk of giving up now,he decided to push onwards anyways,
promising he would get them help oncehe made it out.
Now all alone,he continued onwards in the darkness
until eventuallyhe reached the end of the pipe.
The suction was still so strongthat he was unable
to pull himself out of sight,and so it's forcing against.
Yeah, the pressure,because, yes, it's a pressurized chamber.
The cork came outand it sucked them all it.

(37:04):
So yeah, it didn't describe it in the bestway a lot of ocean is trying to get in.
Yeah. So you understand.
And they all got instantlylike the feel of it
flushed basically the video was likedemo laughing and talking
and like you just seea guy like trying to get the, the plug out
and like a fraction of a second laterit's black and you just hear screaming
and it's literally them getting all suckedinto this tiny pipe so much.

(37:26):
Yeah.
Sucked so much. Crazy.
They didn't die on the, Yeah.
Just getting, like,their neck snapped and shit. Yeah.
So when he instead grabbed onto a chainon the end of the pipe
and held for dear life,praying that one of the rescue divers
would see him down there, and thankfully,someone eventually did,
quickly diving downand pulling him out of the water to safety

(37:46):
where he explained the situationin that other.
The other four men were all aliveand okay, describing roughly where
they were trapped in an effort to helplocate them as quickly as possible.
The story gets worse. Triggerwarning again. Trigger warning again.
Yeah, I know I how does that seem likeit could get worse?
But to the shock and horrorof everyone on board the rescue ship
Pereira, the company,it adamantly refused to send

(38:08):
in a rescue team, citing the riskof another Delta situation happening
that would injure even more people, goingas far as to detain Christopher,
the sole escapee from the pipe,after he himself tried to climb back
into the pipe, alone to save his friendsand country champion Christopher.
So he went like he went to the boss,and the boss was like,
no, it's too dangerous for menalive down there.
And it's like, too dangerous.

(38:29):
Oh my God.
Despite the cries and pleas from everyoneon the rescue mission that day, parrot
was already writing the death notices
for the men that were still aliveand suffering in the pipe.
They're writing the fucking deathcertificates
as they're writing them off,isn't that nice to know?
And yeah, they're like, yeah, clearlyshowing their fact that they had never had
any intentionsof trying to rescue the trapped men at all

(38:49):
for three long days and nights,the sounds of desperate
banging on the pipescould be heard as the men slowly died.
How haunting is that?
Yeah, until four long days later,when the sound eventually stopped
completely and the men tragically passedaway, scared and alone in that pipe.
Finally, after the men had all died,they decided
to send in a rescue mission to recoverthe four bodies of the men inside.

(39:11):
I know,
who are described by family membersas almost unrecognizable, covered in oil
and blood.
Unsurprisingly, despite the obviouscomplete disregard for human life,
para has unsurprisingly avoidedany liability and consequences
in this situationand still operates today.
So that's yeah, oilcompanies are literally run by demon
like that is so inhumane.
Like real demons, like,you know what I mean?

(39:33):
Like, what the fuck is that?Can you not do anything?
It doesn't matter.
I feel like you should be able to sparebillions when somebody is for your men.
When you.
When your guys
who are your contracted workersgo down into like a hell pit and you.
Well, like.
And just the fact that
they basically rotted in the darkfor three days, those guys like,

(39:54):
like how would you go to sleep at nightknowing as a CEO,
like those guys are down there rightnow, a lot of, you know, like you, I mean,
you would want to try everything you can.
I know you don't want to loseany more guys, but like,
you could maybe tether themthe fuck out of that guy.
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
I just feel like, I mean, it's easy for mesitting on this couch
here to like to say, well,they should have done something, but

(40:14):
I guess we don't know the details of it,but it just feels like
they should have been ableto send a guy with
who is completely tethered to somethingand with light.
With light, it's radiowith everything. Right?
And they're willing to do it.That's right.
There's people willing to do it.
They have the technology to do it.
In fact,we know they had the technology to do it
because they sent them down therefor their bodies.
Yeah, yeah, they got the body, dude,but just not alive.

(40:36):
Holy crap. Insanity.
I don't know what the logic is there,but it's and I could hear them screaming
for three days,which is also just nightmarish.
Totally nightmare fuel and the yeah,they could have 100%
done something about it.
And there's an ongoing.
The another thing I heard is
there is ongoing like,
I just feel like they should have doneanything they could have.
Oh, yeah. What's it called?

(40:57):
When a company, when, liability like, youget a liability case or whatever, like.
Yeah, they're, they're being sued.The fact by the families, which is good.
I hope they get something out of it,I feel like.
But that's the thing, right?
Like, I feel like they are assessing itand they're like,
you know, we are going to just take thethe lawsuit loss, you know what I mean?
Like the companies like that are that bigand that rich have like
an entire bank account sitting therewaiting for people to file lawsuits.

(41:20):
100 is like, it's not even going tocost them anything off their real money.
Like, why don't you just fucking use,
like, a fraction of whatthat would be to save these people?
Like, it wouldn't be that much.
I really don't know. Grand scheme.
Things would probably be likehundreds of thousands, if not millions.
Who cares? But who cares, you know,I mean,
I'm sayingbillions should be spent on human love.
Yeah. A lot of prayers.
I would say, it's just money.

(41:40):
At a certain point, we are all pretendingthat money is worth something.
And can you not step outside realityfor just one second and go, okay,
do anything we can to get these guys outin the most terrifying situation
almost imaginable.
Like, no, for me, that I don't thinkthere's many worse things than that.
They're like laying in water,
like a tiny little sow,and they don't know
how they died of starvationif, like, two feet, oxygen depleting.

(42:02):
Yeah.
The point is, it took way too long. Yeah.
And that one guy who managed to get outfucking he's probably spot.
He is scarred for life.
Yeah.
That guy should never have to go down.
No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't go in a plane.
I wouldn't go into anything.
I would be like, I'm sitting right hereand that's fucking good enough for me.
Give me my office job that you owe me now.
Yeah, 100%. So.
And then so, like, the other sidefactor to this survivor guilt

(42:25):
that you would have, oh, 100% holy Ithere was another story with Mr.
B talking about like,like in the same kind of
realm of divers,like deep sea cave divers.
The worst, which is insanity.
You have to squeeze your body areas.
No get like.
Yeah, it's hard enough
to walk down a hallway with a, ba on,like a breathing apparatus.

(42:46):
Like to get a tank on your backand gummy worm through rocks.
Like with it on your face, like it's.
I'm telling you, it's hard enoughto, like, not bang into stuff
when you're just walking,like on the ship.
Per se. When I've been.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. You. Yeah. Firedrills and stuff.
When you're just on a shipto not get yourself tangled in a hose
or to not, like, get your thingsnagged on something, like, constantly.
So if you're underwater, like,all I keep thinking is, like,

(43:09):
somebody'sjust going to hit the wrong part of their,
air tank or whatever,and just knock some part of it loose.
And now you're underwater. Yeah.
And you're like,
yeah, you know, it's bad enoughwhen you're on land
standing there and something goes wrongwith your breathing apparatus.
You're like, feel like you're going to dieinstantly, right?
Like if you're I hate them.
I'm so, yeah, cluster phobic.
And then when I put the mask on,

(43:30):
if I don't havemy valve turned on properly or whatever,
and you're like for a secondand there's nothing, you just full panic.
You just want to rip the maskoff your face right now.
And then if you're in a burning buildingor whenever you have to be chill,
you have to know, take this,crank the thing on.
Make sure the switch is flipped over.
Now you can breathe, and even thenyou're not getting a great breath.
You're getting like a labored like

(43:51):
breathing apparatus breath.
Right?
And so it takes some some getting usedto to do this shit. Right.
And so these divers that are doing
this are just already badassesfor even wearing this breathing apparatus.
So people think, oh,you put on a scuba gear and it's fine.
It's no problem.
It's just like breathing normally.
No, it's kind of a bitch.
Yeah, I don't like to do it.
It's not nice breathingthrough a hose, right? Like.
And if you don't
get everything perfectly rightand you only have this much oxygen left

(44:14):
and it blah, blah, blah, blah,all this stuff that can go wrong, like,
I just don't know if people realizehow terrifying that is.
It's it's it's shitty.
And so like,what what they were talking about
in that story was there was a it wasthis was obviously not a work situation.
These were people that were recreationaldivers, professional divers.
And they went down to thislike expert place.
going to take a pause, Initiate that.
Thank you. Unpause. Unpause.

(44:35):
Let's talk of pipesand water and flushing. And it had to be.
Yeah. And fair enough. Yeah,I know a little bit. Yeah.
So as I was saying, I get the,the factors, like there's a group of,
professional, professional diversin a experienced only area.
A bunch of them went down,
one got I an underwater sickness,which is when you get, like, super dizzy.
It's a camera. What?It's called a substance.

(44:56):
Yeah. The bank.
Yeah, yeah.
they were going up. And I think that'swhat happened to this other guy.
This other guy just got lost.
So yeah.
So there's two divers coming back up.
He looked the guy was fine.
They saw a dude.He was totally fine. He liked what?
Looked at his friend, saw flashlight.
Then he looked back up to this guy, keptsomething a little bit look back down.
But he was gone and he just saw,like the faint, like his light.
Slowly falling back down to the ground.

(45:18):
So then he went, turned around,went after the guy,
but then looked at his oxygen tank.
Because it's all planned out to beyou can't.
You have to be here by this time,or else you're gonna be fucked.
Yeah, you're not going to have.
You're gonna have to rush to the topand your fucking blood
vessels are going to explode and shit.
You have to, like, decompressat every station.
You have to go anyways. You pressurize.
So he went back up to the top,
after
not being able to make itto his friend in time and was just like,

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yeah, he's he's not coming backuntil there's friends and family waiting.
He's not coming back.
And I get so that circumstance is whereit's like, okay, yeah.
You're not going to go for somebodyand kill yourself trying to save me.
I literally can't, you literally can't.
But the fact of like this Trinidad,Trinidad and Tobago oil company
three days and they're just like,could we hear them, sir?

(46:03):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, we could have helped them
realize, like,filling out their death certificates.
Yeah. Like, yeah, I don't know.
I the one that feels evil. Yeah.
So anyways, I don't know. Yeah.
I feel like that's the same.
The same story that you hear all the time
when it comes to a confined spacetraining. Yeah.
I've heard about this,I'm sure. Like not.
I mean, I can well, just pigeonpeople in general, like on a ship per se.

(46:27):
I think that
there's I'm pretty sure about six peoplepassed away one time this way.
So some guy fell down, passed outfrom some gas in an area, right.
Some some gas leak in, confined area,probably down
a hole in a ship, engine room type thing.
Right.
Someone else went down there.
Oh, dude, that guy's falling down.
Let me run down there and see. Boom!They inhale something to.

(46:50):
They fall down.
Next person comes in. Oh, there's twopeople down there.
They go down there, they fall down. Right.
So this keeps happening.
Six people died this waybecause people kept going down
and trying to save somebody, thinking,oh, I'll just hold my breath really quick.
No you can't. Right.
There's something in the in the air therethat it's like killing them
I can't right.
So what we haveis this thing called a dragger dragger.

(47:12):
It's like,
a test, an air tester.
Right?
So you need a draggerif you're going to go
into a confined space like a canary,you need to.
Yeah, yeah, you need exactly that.
And you need to, Canary is expensive.
They don't want to pay for them.
Every single time studentsgrab the canary, off you go.
It's a little inhumane to.
Yeah, well, whatever.
But, yeah, I mean, but basically.

(47:34):
Yeah, you're going in there and makingsure that if this thing starts beeping,
get the hell out of there.
If it's the oxygen levels are wrong orsomething else is in the air or whatever.
Right.
So we have to check that all the time,even when going in normally.
And you have to go,you have to sign out a tag
so that someone knowsthere's somebody in that area.
There's a whole like,operating system. Right?

(47:55):
Because this is what happens, right?
Somebody goes down to save themand they die.
Someone goes down to save those two,and now they die.
And now we got a real problem becausenobody is saving for people, right?
What are you going to do now?You can't pull them out.
So you need to go in tethered.
You need to make sure all this stuff.
Right. It's just there'ssome really dangerous jobs out there.
Diving. Diving sounds like maybeone of the most dangerous.
Yeah,because there's just no room for error.

(48:16):
No. Something goes wrong,and that's it. Yeah, but he's gone.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
It's not just like,oh, man, I forgot to I don't know,
unlatch the safety I don't knowcustomer service jobs.
You forget something, somebody ends up
paying the wrong amount of moneyor something.
Doesn't get their product or somethingbreaks or whatever.
Who cares, right?
This is why I cannot be,
like, flustered in jobswhere it's not life or death, right?

(48:39):
I worked in a job before,you know, busy ferries and stuff like that
where it's like, if I fucked this up,
people could get crushed or it could falla long way or people could drift.
Stakes are higher. Yeah,you know what I mean?
Like where it's like, yeah, you deserveto be yelled at if you fuck up.
Oh, yeah.
That's something where it's like, yolives are at stake in the thing, or life
and limb is at stake,
right where, you know,and then you work in a,

(48:59):
you go into a place
where you work in a restaurantor something after the fact,
and people are yelling and angryand it's like, okay. Yeah.
And that's one of my favorite thingsto see when I'm at when I'm at the store
and we're taking it too seriously,I'm like, dude, we're not brain surgeons.
We're not rocket scientists.Yeah, it's not life and death.
Yeah, everything can be figured outand you leave it at the door.
That's that's what I say.I work at a fucking pot store, man.
I'm like, dude, this is the poster.

(49:20):
I am oftentimestelling people like, you, remember,
this is just a storewhere we sell marijuana to people.
Yeah, okay. Yeah.
You know,nobody is expecting us to save lives.
Nobody is expecting
us to be perfectly on time or else,you know, there's none of this ridiculous.
But anyway, some peopleshout out to people with real ass jobs.
Shout out to people who have to save livesand who have to be careful
and think on their feet because otherwisesomeone will get hurt or die.

(49:42):
So shout out, shout out.
Okay, the last subject we'regoing to go into here is the
Bernadette Wheelan,
case, I guess, which was a disasterthat happened a David Cassidy
concert in 1974.
It's kind ofI guess it's kind of another sad note.
Another trigger warning is.

(50:03):
Okay, you guys missed us, didn't you?
We came here to talk about thislittle shit.
This is why you come back? Yeah. So?
So basically. Oh, and that's it.
That's the reasonwhy I'm talking about it.
It's because it happened on this dayin 1974, May 30th.
So that'swhen we're recording this May 30th, 1974.
So everyone has it fucking May30th already, bro.
What the hell? May just was a wisp. Yeah.

(50:25):
We're almost halfway through 2035.What the fuck?
That's how it keeps happening, man.
Times, times do a turn.
Return.
Trying to use it to my advantagethese days and just, you know,
you start good things in motion. Yeah.
And then your growth can happen this fast,lickety split. Yep.
Okay.
So, Bernadette Wieland, a 14 yearold David Cassidy fan, died of heart

(50:45):
failure four daysafter attending a UK concert.
Of his over a thousand othersfans had been had to be given first
aid during the singer'sWhite Stadium White City Stadium show.
So anyways,
yeah, Bernadette,like so many others, arrived at the venue
long before the doors opened.
It was later reported she probably beenon her fashionably packed platform
booted feet for 12 hours, exhaustionboth inside and inside the stadium.

(51:10):
Finally, however, that showtime dawnedin the crowd flowed as one into stadium.
crowd flowed as one into the stadium,
its components separatingonly as they spread out in search
for the best vantage point.
So this is like Justin Bieber or, og,a massive concert.
Yeah, this this fella.
But it blew the support band.

(51:30):
Cassidy's Bell Recordslabel mates show Adi latte.
That's a weird name.
So, Adi. Adi, they didn't make it.
Why didn't they make it
the name like this?
Like they could not make it.
They took the stage and left it againat the end of their set.
Uncertainwhether anyone in the place themselves
included, had heard a single notethey played from the stage.

(51:52):
The audience did not even look human,
just a vast surrealist montageof posters, scarves and waves arming,
soundtracked by squeals of love,dedication and undying adoration.
And above and behind and around,all that and every sense
pervading web of wall to wallscreaming, the 200 security staff
took their positions in front of the stagein a strategy JC spots around it

(52:13):
the loyal battalion protecting the kingon some mighty medieval battlefield.
Battalion? Yes.
What is this flowery writing
you got
all very experienced veteransof so many past concentrations
the Beatles, the Osmonds, T-Rex, DC mania,you name it.
It seems they fought their wars.
The T-Rex to see what

(52:36):
the band T-Rex.
Marc Bolan, obviously.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah.
Well, I know that, but I don't know the.
I don't know either.
Yeah, I heard the whoever wrotethis was fucking having a
just an artistic day in the office.
They're just feeling extra English.
The extra creative.
So anyways, the, the,the security guards have had around.
Yeah, the battalion has been around

(52:58):
some famous, seasonedand well blooded battalion. Yeah.
That's right. Yeah.
For yellow jackets, for little 15 yearold David Cassidy here.
But they had never faced anythinglike this, as 35,000 hysterical teens
made it clearthat they would stop at nothing
to reach the object of their desire,
jet planes were quieter than the crowdbackstage.
The recording engineerscould barely hear themselves

(53:18):
think as they tried to find the levels.
Bell records was recordingthe show as a souvenir album.
Cassidy live
would be a
long before the seats were even dry,but you try checking levels on.
The only sound is an under undulating howl
when the great microphones,the greatest microphones
money could buy our wailingbefore the ecstatic keening.

(53:39):
A couple of years later, Lou Reed releasedMetal Machine Music
for signs of painstakinglymanipulated feedback.
You could have just taped tonight'saudience.
Cassidy hit the stage, and the teenagelung power hit catastrophe proportions.
Oh damn.
Who wrote this?
You need to send them an email.
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah.

(54:02):
Get to the goddamn point.
Yeah.
Ready to hearglass shattering and wail that can find
the most vibrant amplified musicto mere bit part in the unfolding trauma.
Even Cassidy,who'd seen and heard it all before,
looks stunned by the noisethat enveloped him.
Okay, blah blah blah blah blah.
So it wasn't the falling that heard.Of course.
It was the crushing.
So a thousand people tried getting up.I'm gonna summarize.
Yeah, it wasn't following that herd.Of course it was the crushing.

(54:24):
It was the weight.
First of one, then ten, then 100and then a thousand.
Newspaper reports varied.
Some said it was a few, as fewas 650 bodies falling onto one another.
A teenage seathat was suddenly transformative.
Human logjam.
That's horrible.
Listen back to the tapes.
The show was about 20 minutes,and when it first became apparent
that something had gonewrong, the sudden, awful moment

(54:45):
when an unyielding barrage of impassionedscreaming
became a horrified explosion of terrorfrom the stage,
unaware of what precisely had happened,but knowing that something was wrong,
Cassidy struggledineffectively to restore order.
While security in the Saint John'sAmbulance volunteers
tried to push through the melee,he halted the music
and shouted to the crowd, Get back,get back!
They're going to start the show.

(55:06):
They're going to the plug on to cool it.
But like Mick Jagger at Altamontfive years earlier, the words had do act.
Cassidy left the stage in the kitchen,or whatever lightweight
pop was to hand in a futile attemptto calm the crowd.
And now the tape becomes surrealto the jaunty soundtrack
of the wobbling song,
0000000.

(55:41):
00000000.

(56:01):
the debut hit by
children's television favoritesLittle Collecting Rodents.
Hundreds upon hundreds of crushed,
bleeding and battered fans were calling,pleading, screaming for help.
So this like like Sesame Streetsong was like, yeah, and over the P.A.
and these people were just, like,getting fucking screaming for help.
Yeah. Like that sticks out to me.
That's like a baby. Really,really horrified.

(56:22):
And because the whole thingwas recorded for an album.
Because it's all on tape. Yeah.
My God, slowly,those people who could have
picked themselves up, in fact, the vastmajority thought they'd be registered
as injured would make it homeunaided that night.
30, however, were rushed to local
hospitals and one, Bernadette, had stoppedbreathing altogether.
Fanatic and dedicated emergency workerswere able to restart her heart,

(56:42):
but the girl, who's still unconsciousas she was stretched
into one of the waiting ambulances,she never regained consciousness.
Incredibly, the concert went on.
The wounded were removed, the audiencecalmed, and Cassidy took the stage again.
It's like, okay, well,they got that's over.
Yeah, dude. Travis Scott vibes.
Come on. This

(57:03):
big, beautiful girl. She.
Grew up.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, I was nuts. So

(57:25):
blah blah blah blah blah.
More fucking Robert Frost shit.
Two days later.
But then it died.
So it was actually like, so it was
they rolled her death like
it was traumatic asphyxiation.
But then they also labeled it, a victim of contrived hysteria
because she was so excitedfor David Cassidy.

(57:46):
Yeah.
So anyways,that was the other thing, but like,
there's no way to say, thoughI think the crushing was definitely.
What did it.
Yeah.
And then, like, even a doctornoted the trendy high platform shoes
that a lot of the injuredfans had been wearing
are suggested that many of those who fellwere literally toppled off their heels
and then fucking crushedby these big platforming shoes.
Yeah, yeah yeah, fucking clod hoppers.

(58:08):
We've all been to metal shows, right?
Right.
Seeing what it's like
when a crowd is surging,we thought we felt what it's like.
There's no wayyou can push against it, right? No.
Like when there's two people.
Three people,there's there's really nothing you can do.
Like, so when you add ten peoplebehind those people
and 20 people behind those people,30 behind those people, and everyone's
just sort of pushing a little bit,not understanding that they're all

(58:29):
compounding all their weight into onesorry front row, you know, like it's
I don't know,
I just think people just don't reallythink outside themselves often enough.
Not you guys are listeners.
Yeah. Of courseyou're very considerate people. Yes.
But I think that in general people don'treally like, aren't maybe are not capable
of thinking outside their own bubblelike they're, they're a couple feet.

(58:50):
Right.
They're not thinking about what's going on30ft away from me right now.
When I push on this guy
and he's pushing with his girlfriendand they're pushing into them and they're
until that something bad that compoundsin, you know, times 500 people.
And now someone can't move, someone can'teven expand their own diaphragm.
They can't breathe. Right?Oh they're crying.
This has happened before.
People have been crushed in audiencesbefore
because people are justsearching for words and not understand.

(59:11):
Terrifying.
So and I also think that there'sa little bit too much faith in like, oh,
I'm going to a venue.
Yeah, I'm going to be okay.
Because this is a professional, set up.
This is a, at events companysetting this up.
It's funny, it reminds me of,
on, on magic mushrooms.
One time, I was by the ocean,and it was an amazing day.
A really great day.

(59:32):
One of the first few timesI've ever done this right.
And mushrooms comes on in waves.
Yeah, right.
And so the initial waves are hitting me,and I'm feeling like a ninja.
I'm just like, I can run on this shit.
I'm like, running around,jumping from cliff to cliff to cliff,
you know, a little gap. Boom.Jumping over it. No problem.
I've got all this stuff.
And then another wave hits mewhere I'm just like, I'm mortal.

(59:54):
Like, if I fall down right nowand hit my head, that's it.
Like,this is real. This is real life right now.
And I just got terrified.
And I went down in the balland I was like, huddled against the rock,
looking at the ocean, like, okay, okay,just be careful and like slowly moving.
And I look up and there's my friend Adambouncing from thing to thing.
I'm like, oh yeah, I'm fine.I'm Superman, I can run.

(01:00:16):
And so I start running again.
And then I think again,
oh, careful if you fucking fall in like,you know, you're way out here, dude.
And so there's this voicegoing back and forth in my head on.
That's what this reminded me of.
Yeah, I know it seems highly unrelated.No, that's.
But but what it is that I'm getting atis that there,
there should be that voice every oncein a while in your mind that goes,
oh, yeah, this is real life rightnow. Yeah.
Someone can totally die rightnow. Yeah, someone can get hurt.

(01:00:38):
Someone can get crushed.
Somebody could, you know, start, starthaving a heart attack.
Honestly. Yeah. And nowhow are we going to get them out of here?
Right.
Like, people just don't really thinkabout how mortal we are and how, like,
squishy we are.
Something happens. Very endurablewe all are.
Until something happens.
Especially like a big dude in the in themosh pits, not thinking about 20ft away.
A tiny girl is getting crushed by fiveother people.

(01:01:01):
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
So, like, I just want everybodyto think a little more, okay.
Themselves. Again,not the people listening to this. Yeah.
The other day. Your friend. Yeah.
Tell your friendsyou have some consideration
for your fellow human beings,especially at concerts.
Yeah.
Like especially at concerts,because people deserve
to be enjoying that concert. Yeah.
And not having to worryabout their safety.
And then because of that, the next showalmost got canceled, which it should have.

(01:01:24):
But then, the management team was like,no, it's going to be fine.
Just do it. And he didn't want to let thepeople who bought tickets to their show.
So he came back.
But the show must go on.
I guesshalf the people got refunds for his 35.
Not so like he got a huge like,so even like.
Nope, not going to that. Well, noteverybody can stand at the front. Right.
And but they're going to try.
So like this is wherewe have to be careful and be reasonable.
Right.
Is it that important that you get upto the front Cassidy's ball sweat on you.

(01:01:48):
Yeah.
Well now we're talking.
No, we're talking a little incentive.Yeah.
Worth it.
And, anything else?
You have to get to see Crowley. Your kid?
Yes. She's happy to see me there.
It was really nice to see you.Your new house is awesome.
I've been watching this snail
crawling up the rock in your fishtank this entire time.
Do you ever nail us.but? Yes.

(01:02:09):
That's me.
Wow, that was me.
Good timing.
Yeah. Neilthe snail. Neil the snail. Because.
Oh, he's like a Neely.Or he's like a, fuck.
My girlfriend knows it's a certain typeof, Yeah.
So with Neil in the name. Yeah.
I keep an entire databank in my girlfriend's head, too.
Oh, yeah, she knows.
She knows it. I'll ask her.
So she just asked,and I'm like the Neil Neil, like.
Oh, okay.

(01:02:30):
So you named Neil.
Yeah. Okay. Well it's good. Yeah.
Oh yeah.
The last thing I have on my list,which I'm not going to go into too far,
but apparently the new number one artist
with the most platinum songs not recordsongs is Drake.
You just got Drake. Drake? He just beat
Post Malone and Garth Brooks.

(01:02:50):
It's easy.
It's so funny to me
that that guy can be so successfuland like, so talented and so, like,
well-received,while also being such a douche
like bit of a dude is so wellknown as a as a wack motherfucker.
Yeah, it's so funny to methat, like, you could be so successful
and yet still I'mmost people are just kind of like me.
Totally.
You know, I mean, like,a lot of people really love them, but,

(01:03:12):
Yeah, for me, I'm just like,yeah, whatever.
He's. Yeah, I don't care.
I fuck with a couple of his bops.
I don't mind him. Yeah.
He's he is. Whatevs. Yeah.
And I want to thank jab jab for for, pitching a joke.
But, Habiba.
Oh my God. Habit.
Oh my god. Habitable.
Nice planet.

(01:03:33):
That was, that wasthat was thrown at me from from Tyler.
I always forget.
I always feel like I'mforgetting something in jab. Jab.
Yeah. And then you just, like,you know what?
I'm like.
I'm like, do you get anything elseyou want to throw in?
And he's like,just make up some funny Pokemon.
And he made a popular one called Crystal.Yeah.
Chrysler. Yeah.
Chrysler. Fucking Chrysler's first form.

(01:03:53):
And he drew a weird fucking thing.
I don't know, it's Chrysler small booger.
And yeah. And I'm just like,I'm like, yo, tell me more about it.
You just said it's crossing.
That's it.
Okay. Well it's good of himto help us out. Yeah.
So thanks for the Pokemonjab jab Chrysler.
Looks like that.It made it. Yeah. So the podcast
Chrysler.
He's so excited.
So happy that we're saying Chryslerbecause there's nothing else to that.

(01:04:15):
He just like I'm like yoyou want to give me a bit more backstory?
Like, no, it's it's Chrysler.
Oh, I should go
should we invented like, what is Chrysleris he's just like only a pizza crust.
Maybe you could be a breadstick. Yeah.
Chris Pressler or I, for some reason,think of like a, like a shellfish.
Oh, I could crustacean.
Yes, that'swhy I'm thinking of it. Okay. Chris.
Yeah. It's like kind of what I was.

(01:04:36):
I've definitely was thinking of Krabbyand Kingler for sure. Yeah.
Chrysler. Yeah, totally.
Yeah, but pizza crust would be good.
I just don't think, the people at Pokemon would buy it.
What do you mean? There's like a fucking.
I guess there's a little garbage bag.
Like, say,there's like a dog poop bag of dog poop.
It's named like, oh, poop. It's me.
I'm like, it doesn't matter.
That's for this guy's Chrysler.

(01:04:57):
All right, well, let me remote.
We'll give Tyler 20% of that,handle Chrysler proceeds.
Yeah. Tyler.Tyler gets 20%. Dumb job. Sorry. Fuck.
He's straight. Yeah, yeah.
Thank you very much for, to, Ted'stanning or whatever the hell Tony doing.
Excuse me.
Tony's tanning.
Tony standing. Thanks.
Big thanks to Anthonyfor creating these horrific tanning beds.

(01:05:19):
Yep, yep.
The Tony.
Yeah.
Like I said,I always feel like there's more to say,
but that means we have to haveanother podcast soon. That's good.
Yeah, because I would say, like, one daywe're just making what I think. That's it.
I think about a stuff about,see you never.
Yeah. See you never again.This has been it.
This has been.This has been. You're so 30,000. Yeah.
Oh, well, let's make it everything. Yeah.
Let's make it to episode 30,000.
We're just talking about how, like it.

(01:05:41):
Yeah.
We haven't been on in, like, a monthor over a month or whatever.
We haven't done this, but like it,
it legitimately feels likewe're just getting started all the time.
Oh, like, I always feel likewe're just getting started.
Whether it's with the podcast,whether it's my music,
doesn't matter what it is,it feels like life.
I'm I'm
fucking 36 years old and it feels likelife is just getting started all the time.
Yeah. Which is fantastic.
So there's new musiccoming all the time from now,

(01:06:05):
of course,I've got like five different things.
I've got a dungeon synth project,shout out to Spell Throne.
Go check out spell throne spellthrow on Bandcamp.
Horrifies just about,you know, like, we're really getting close
with,the recordings that we're doing right now
as far as, like,guitars are almost done, like word up.
There's new Storify coming.
Eventually we got I've been rapping withmy new my new hip hop group, Dream Team.

(01:06:27):
My name's Jimmy Jam and I've been doingthis just like, can we cream do.
We're turning. We're not. Obviouslywe're not taking ourselves that serious.
Hey, man, we take the rap seriously,but like, no, no, you know.
In the raft up obviously to I've been it'sall it's all pretty serious.
I've been having fun making these be.
So basicallyall I do is working and sell part
and then hang out with my girlfriendand make music.
And yeah,
I've been trying to do hiking more, tryingto go for runs more, been in the gym

(01:06:50):
a bunch.
My buddy Dan Hitchinthat remember Dan the historian.
Yeah, he's been joining me and
Truth Gym.
The hell yeah.
Yeah. He's registered in there now.
So we've been doing a couple of thoseand yeah, man,
there's just not enough hours in the day.
No, I'm findingthere's just really not enough time at all
to do anything, so I'm glad we can meet upand do another podcast.
Hell, yeah.
And more to come.
We just both had, a very busy May.

(01:07:13):
We didn't even realizeit's the end of May.
Fucksake, man.
Like, it's going to it'sgoing to kick off again though,
and we're going to have more regular,podcasts again.
And yeah, just in general, I feel like,
very positive outlook, very optimisticabout how things are going to go soon.
So to thank you all for sticking with us.
Thank you all for listening.
We look forward to seeing you againvery soon in the future.
The ladyno other than that was a killer episode.

(01:07:36):
How are you?
Good to see you.
And pleasure.
And these are my. These are my. More.
those.