March 4, 2024 • 36 mins
Barb Smith Varclova, CPTSD Specialist, discuss with Lucia Petrusova, RTT Practitioner, how trauma is manifesting in form of PMDD and what are steps to recovery from debilitating symptoms to full life free of symptoms.
With two decades of corporate experience, Lucia brings a wealth of expertise to the table. Lucia's journey began as a former Corporate Lean Six Sigma Master Black, the highest certification in the Lean Six Sigma methodology. This distinction led her to an exciting opportunity to join an international team in Paris back in 2013, where she served as a coach, trainer, and transformational leader responsible for spearheading process improvements and cultural transformations across Europe, the Balkans, and Russia. Prior to her Parisian venture, Lucia contributed significantly to the same company's success in Prague.
Driven by her distinctive skill set and experiences, Lucia made a conscious decision to pivot her focus towards supporting individuals on their personal and professional journeys after a momentous career call in 2018. This decision marked the beginning of a new chapter, as she graduated from Erickson Coaching International as a Solution Focused NLP Coach. Despite the fulfillment she found in coaching, Lucia yearned for a more profound impact on her clients, something that would address deep-rooted issues and provide immediate relief after each session.
Lucia's quest for a transformative approach led her to Marisa Peer and her Rapid Transformational Therapy© (RTT©). Recognizing its power, she became a certified Clinical Hypnotherapist in RTT©, seamlessly integrating it with coaching based on the client's needs and the path to optimal results.
Lucia's journey is deeply intertwined with a poignant personal story. Born as the second child after the tragic loss of her sister, she faced unique challenges as her parents navigated their grief. Constant comparisons to her late sister created a struggle for identity acceptance. Overcoming this profound issue ignited Lucia's calling, leading her to study coaching and later embracing RTT.
Through her personal and professional experiences, Lucia has successfully overcome identity issues and addressed a range of challenges with the help of RTT. This includes triumphs over PMDD, migraines, and PTSD stemming from a traumatic experience in December 2022, involving a relationship with a narcissist.
While Lucia's passion extends across various domains, she offers support for those grappling with PMDD. Her approach is always centered on facilitating positive transformations and empowering individuals to lead fulfilling lives.
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Welcome to our next episode ofWay Out of Childhood Trauma,
and today is here with me Lucia Petrusova,
which is RTT therapist,
but Lucia is just more than that.
She is amazing business woman,
which she becoming one of theleading people and getting the
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high certification in LeanSix Sigma methodology.
So she really achieved veryhigh achievements in her
business life and move from Prague to
Paris. So Lucia, tellme what is your story?
Why from business life soproductive and successful,
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you actually choose and become thetherapist and working with people affected
by trauma. Hello.
Barb and hello everyone.Thank you for having me.
So why from this business environment?
I switched to being atherapist and being a coach.
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It is because
I was a corporate coachfor a very long time
and I find out thatI'm not coaching people
because I was also a trainerthat I'm not teaching people
or coaching them on a technical stuff.
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But I find out that I'm reallycoaching them and teaching them how
to deal with issues, how to be themself,
their authentic self.
Whatever is happening in their life.
And many of them theysucceed and they change
a job position. They werepromoted or they left company,
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yes because they achieve a highersalary raise and I was like,
oh my gosh,
I'm really changing lives of these
people. And I was really,
really proud for everyone wholeft because they find better job
and we created verynice friendships after.
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So I'm still with maybe 95%of the people I was working.
I was working for EasternEurope, Balkan, Russia.
We kept in touch via socialmedia and I find out that
I really have this talent to connectwith people on a very deep level.
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And at a certain moment Idecided I just don't feel any
fulfilment to teach somethingwhat was created by somebody
else. I really want to dosomething like what is me,
like this wisdom in me.
And I started to study coaching andthen with the coaching I was above
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to decide if I'm going to be ICFcertified coach and I decided I
don't want to be becausethe way how we were
forced to ask the questions or keepcertain standards, I felt very limited.
So I learned something very importantabout myself that I cannot be
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put into the box.
I'm not a soldier so Ican be very creative in
whatever I'm doing.
And then I decided I want to dosomething like what can change
people and help people very quicklywithin one session, two session.
And then I found out rapidtransformational therapy and I became a therapist.
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So I combine hypnotherapywith the coaching
And you are also the therapist we can
be and we should be intuitive.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
And so what was that kind of moment when
you felt that this is working,
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I really can change things for people,but what did you change for yourself?
What did I change Formyself? I changed a lot.
I have to say thatafter two years I really
started to feel not even me better,
but everything changed in my life.
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People around me change. I was left alone.
It was like a huge detox becauseI needed new people to come
into my life.
And.
This is really very,
very important that once we change and we
resolve our love emotions, ourtrauma, we change our behaviour,
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we change our life. And
so my most important thing,
what I change and I am reallyvery grateful for this,
is that I'm fully free from PMDD,
which is premenstrual dysphoric disorder.
I was suffering from it from since Istarted to have a period maybe, no,
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maybe later when I was 17 years old,
I noticed that I am super emotional
and it took me really 20 yearsuntil I started to study RTT
and I had this class with my colleague
where we really resolve it within onesession and I didn't want to believe that.
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So I waited maybe four to six months
that yeah, it's really gone.It's not anymore in my life.
And yeah, I'm fully like free.
A lot of women of course know P-M-D-D and
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a lot of people suffer with that.Some people are not even diagnosed,
they don't understand that theyactually do suffer with that.
They're just taking having my days.
But how it does affected your life,
how it affected your life before,
what people would recognise thesymptoms that they have, PMDD,
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maybe even they are notdiagnosed officially.
So what are the most common symptoms?The symptom number one is anger.
It's a huge anger. So.
They.
Are triggered by almost everything.
Then they are mood swings, irritability,
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even anxiety, suicidal thoughts.
And also one of the symptom,
which I didn't know it was thesymptom I find out after was
that during this two weeks I alwayswanted to break up with my partner.
So this is very,
very difficult for relationshipbecause it can even feel like
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you are abusing your partner. Yes.
But this emotional stageis so tough that you
just don't know how to help yourself,
how to proceed your heavy emotion.
So this life with PMDD is verydifficult for friendships for
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life in a couple for professionallife also because whomever
can trigger you. So it'svery, very difficult.
That has be very hard for not all women,
but especially women in professionalpositions when you need to
keep composure and meetings andpresentation and being very irritable
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and angry for almost noreasons that can really
bother women in their businesscareer and the progression
of their careers and can reallystruggling in relationships.
So we already spoke hereon podcast about that
anger as a trauma response,
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which people recognisingthat it's actually,
so would you agree with that anger of even
in PMDD as trauma response?
Yes, absolutely. It istrauma response with PMDD.
What happened after my session,
not only anger was resolvedbut all other symptoms,
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even bloating, yes,
because there is also bloating and thereis insomnia and all other symptoms.
So all other symptoms just disappear.
So this was pretty fascinatingbecause I thought okay,
I will need maybe other sessions. Yes,
more sessions are necessary ifsomeone for example is suffering also
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from depression. Yes.
So.
Which PMDD can be very tough, tough state.
PMS premenstrual syndrome islike, I should not say that,
but slightly lighter version ormaybe in some culture they know
PMDD in other cultures they know PMS.
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So absolutely anger is a trauma response.
And also in my case,
in fact I somehow absorbed anger of
somebody else.
So this is very fascinatinghow we as a young
people, as a child,
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we can absorb this huge negativeemotion of somebody else.
And I remember that the therapistasked me during the session,
so is this emotion yours? And Isaid no, this is not my emotion.
So we let it go and this ishow we let go of the anger.
Yeah, yeah. The generational trauma,
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which many people still don'tunderstand actually working.
It's not just about passingon that information like the
behaviour which causing the trauma butactually passing on that it's the trauma
itself.
The children are very open to emotionscoming if it's during the pregnancy or
when they are small children orup to teenage years to actually
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taking on that emotions of their parentsif it's the fear or if it's the anger
or so that's really amazing to hear
story of that actuallywhen we are releasing it,
it's how much is changing the life?
Is it that your life changedvery significantly with
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one session or
few sessions to proceed to change? So.
Just to maybe add one thing,
what was really for me superrelieving was when I came out of
hypnosis and I said to thetherapist like Oh my god,
nothing is wrong with me.
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Because.
Yes, women suffering from PMDD,
they really think and I wasalso thinking that I'm crazy
and it was such an incrediblerelief coming out of the hypnosis.
I said to myself, thereis nothing wrong with me.
In fact it has been never my fault.
I really just absorbedlike a sponge this emotion,
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emotion of anger and I was carryingit with me living with this for 20
years.
Isn't that a lot of people don'trealise how much child trauma
really affecting daily lives ofpeople and there is not just this
traditional responses flight andflight because that's actually not what
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children can react because children arenot in the position fight back or fly
or runaway is it?
So they going to the responses of phone
like people pleasing orfreeze or just kind of
surviving is it survival mode.
So would you recognise one ofthese responses in that you
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would be maybe more like hold yourselfin some areas from something or
avoiding or doing what people likeor did you manage to avoid these
responses during your life?
No,
I was a people pleaser but Ididn't know that I am people
pleaser. Yes. I was really like,
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yeah, it's not my style, I don'treally like it, but why not?
Let's go there. Let's do that. Yes.
Even my marriage was like that honestly.
I discovered after divorceI was like oh my gosh,
I got married sometime someoneI would not absolutely married
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now.
Right. Obviously changing isit when we recover from trauma.
Yes, we completely see people froma different lenses. We are able to
see, I really call itand I'm telling clients.
So what you see is justyour trauma lenses.
You are just perceiving it from yourlevel of consciousness where you
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are and you live yourlife through these lenses.
You're making decisions, youare choosing your partners,
you are choosing yourbosses, your friends.
So what do you would recommendto the women or other
people suffering with
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PMDD physical manifestation of tarau,especially for women who suffer with PMDD?
What do you would recommend them to do?
In fact,
what I would really like toempower women who are still
waiting for some scientific research,
just don't wait for any research becausethis is really trauma trapped into your
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body.
You.
Don't need any confirmationfrom a scientist.
It's just like a regular case for atherapist to deal with the trauma because
this is what PMDD is
because there is no medical help.
PMDD cannot be evendiagnosed with any blood
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sample.
It's only symptomscollection and that's it.
But behind there is really traumaand I know that many women,
they don't like words trauma.
So let's call it that you arewounded but something happened to you
to everyone
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in a certain period of the life and yeah,
we can deal with this andjust take a session or two.
It depends on everyone's state and youcan be free of it and really live a
life on your own terms.
Yeah,
I find out that people often notrecognising what all trauma is and I
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feel that trauma has to be some bigevent or somebody who was in the war or
somebody who was in theaccident, but actually
childhood trauma,
it can be caused by unhappy parents
if they suffer with trauma,
if they are not managing theirlife and they are angry or they are
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sad, they're withdrawn orthey are controlling at all, causing the trauma. And
we have similar backgroundgrowing up in oppression of
freedom and parents were very manyparents was very unhappy in that
time. So there is a lot of woundednations but also that is coming
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generations since firstsecond war when it's carry on.
That's survival,
guilt or lack of opportunities,
lack of food that alsogrieving unprocessed
bereavements of lost millions.
So a lot of people actuallypassing on trauma and
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sometimes people don't want to say thatthey suffer with trauma because they
said my parents did theirbest or they could, but yeah,
they had the outburst ofanger or they suffered and
I want to say peoplethat it's not blame on
parents,
it's not about telling that they wasbest parents. It's about understanding
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how you as a childreacted to their behaviour
and we can have compassion andunderstanding for why they reacted.
Then many of them grew upin own childhood trauma
of grow up after war or evenwas born during the war.
And so it's not passing blame,
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it's about just understanding whatreally happened during our own
childhood and we all haveall different stories and
do something with that. It'simportant that it's not forever.
Yes, absolutely. It's likeonce we are grown up adults,
it's our responsibility to findthe help and to heal ourself,
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to be a good partner, to be agood friend, to be a good parent.
My mom, she was like inthe past saying, but me,
I never went to the therapist and I said,
please do not tell it to anyonebecause I spent quite a lot of money on
therapist.
Or when.
I was in Slovakia and we werewatching TV and my father asked me,
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they were speaking about mentalhealth and my father asked me,
what is OCD? And I said,
well let me introduceyou and all her siblings.
So this behaviour, what they'redoing, cleaning all the time,
this is OCD.
So now it's like they'reopen to this. Yes,
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they're very interested in what I'm doing.
I'm explaining they know what is trauma,
they know that there is a helpfor this. But yes, as you said,
we both come from very let's say
limited culture where going to even
psychologists meant duringcommunistic period that
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something is really, really wrong withyou if you need that type of help.
But now also in media andmedia speak about mental
health, their podcastdedicated to mental health.
So it's going better.
Yeah, it's what we try on our podcast.
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You hope because people out ofpeople still believe that it
cannot be helped. That is forever. And
it's all this collection of streets ofthose people who saw that on themselves
but also on their clients or theirfriends are important because
that change in society is
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moving. But if you go for example,
look at you and explain or giveexample people how you would
apply it to the business setting.
If there are the womenwhich suffer with PMDD,
how is affecting productivityand effectiveness in the company,
why it's important to supportthis recovery and why iOS?
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I think that businessesshould more invest to
therapies for women.
Absolutely. Imagine that women with PMDD,
they suffer the health of their cycle,
which is 14 days, some of them even more.
They're really under these heavy emotions.
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It means that they turn into the versionwhich is completely different than they
are. So you cannot really focuson your work when you are angry.
Yes, when you are easily irritated.
So you cannot do properly yourbusiness. So it's like 50% at minimum,
50% of your time is just youare dealing with your emotions.
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This is it.
And it doesn't matter if aperson is a businesswoman or I
dunno, working in the shop. Yes.
Because this is also very difficult.
Same for women who aresuffering from painful
periods,Exactly the same thing.
Having a painful periodis not a normal natural
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thing because our cycleis really peaceful.
It is really just theis only discomfort but
no pain.
So painful periods alsowe are not able to work.
Yes, women who are suffering from this,they're not able to work for three,
four days. It depends and they needto take a medication. But again,
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painful period are suppressed emotions.
And again, one of the parent was abusive,
yes,
with a narcissistic disorder or they are
under any type of abuse at the workplace,
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they are in the toxic place or they'rein the toxic relationship or friendship.
So this is the historyand the root cause of
why they are havingpainful period is there.
So.
This is also very importantthat yeah, it's not only PMDD,
but I would say also our feminine cycle
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is not what women think that.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I see we can see it alsoalmost sadistic when we compare
the different nations where Indonesians,
where the women rights and positionin society is very oppressed
and they are more attacked.
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For example, sexually or physically,
there is actually higher percentageof really painful period of
PMDD because that's about it,
attack on femininity and relatedto it also it's menopause and
how we going through that becauseit's all about the relationship.
It's me as women, as women.What is me as me in society?
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Can I be free? Can I be myself?Is it or has to be people,
pleaser has to adapt. I have tofight for my position in society.
So all these things related to the period,
if it's before, during, orwhen it's ending, are related
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to our settings or emotionalsettings to our beliefs and things
and how we work with that. So
if somebody would say that theycannot of course, for example,
therapy and some women don't becausethey are in maybe in this moment course
if relationships and they don'thave that financial freedom to do
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that,
what would be some tip for them to howthey can start working on what you would
recommend them?
In fact, there are also alot of resources online. Yes,
it can be some exercise, it can be yoga.
Nitra is really great to countdown and to connect with your body.
Yoga nitra is really, reallygreat. So they can start with,
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there is a lot of freehelp now on social media,
but I would love to also say thatif they don't have resources,
there are plenty,
plenty of therapists whoare offering a session for
discounted price
or they even do some free sessions for
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students for example.But if you are ready,
the teacher will appear.It's always like that.
And then in fact the bestinvestment is always in ourself.
So imagine if woman is 30years old with the PMDD,
so she's going to make itfor additional 30 years. Yes.
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Or maybe 25 living
with all these trapped emotionsand not living a life but really
surviving. So if you make a calculation,
then it's not expensive and sometimesyou really need the one session
to resolve all these issues.
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Yeah, that's absolutely true.
And it's really importantfor people to understand that
stored in body, but doesn't mean thatit's mean that it has to stay there.
It's just provisional storage andactually all these activities,
all these symptoms,
it's how the mind trying to get rid ofit and trying to release it from the body
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in some way is it?
So when we give the mind thechance to do that in safety,
an environment of, for example,
rapid transformational is going veryquickly and mine is very happy to do that
because it's kind of action.
We find a way which will be mucheasier and quicker. Let's do it.
We don't want this emotions herebecause it's how mine works.
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Don't want to store this autoemotion. It's very tiring. It's very
time consuming.
That's why very often causing also thebrain fog and focusness because the mind
is trying to hold it.
So how would you say thatyour life is now without
your meeting?
Oh my god. The woman. Yeah.
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It's like I remember still this feeling,
it was like after session and thenwhen I was waiting I was after
ovulation. So I was waiting. Okay,
so when I will switchinto my crazy version,
I'm saying that because I can, yousee, I'm telling also everybody, yeah,
this is your crazy version. In fact,
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it felt like there was anempty space in me, in my body.
And.
It was a space only for me to decidewhat I'm going to do with this
space,
with what emotion I'mgoing to feel this space.
Because there was no anger, there wasno bloating, there was no irritability.
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So I really felt like, okay,
this is something what I have neverexperienced in my life, me in my body,
but very different.
It.
Felt like it's me,
but there is something newand unknown, totally unknown.
And it was such a reallyfantastic feeling.
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And since that time my lifechanged completely. As I said,
all my friends I had,they left within a year.
It was really like a detoxBecause of this huge,
because I was in the low vibrationallevel I can say with all these heavy
emotions.
So I was attracting different peoplethan I'm attracting right now.
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I started my business, yes. Iwas like, okay, this is really,
I knew what I want to do evenmore. Before I knew, okay,
my calling is I want to do this.
But after that everythingbecame much more clearer.
So I got the clarity, inspiration.
For me it was just incrediblethat I can work whole month.
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I don't work only three days when I haveperiod because I'm tired and it's very
normal for us. So we don't work,we don't work out, we do nothing.
Just we are resting. But I waslike, this is just fantastic.
I can work all month long
and this is really, reallyjust, I gain a lot of time.
So I'm much more productive.I'm calm, I'm much more calmer.
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And yeah,
I also attract completelydifferent type of people.
How changed your relationships?
My relationships. I'mnot the fighter. Yes,
but I'm not people pleaser.This is also what really left
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my body and my mind that
I'm very clearly expressing myself and I'm
expressing my needs.
And then I know when angerappear, when I'm angry,
I know that my values wereviolated and I know this is healthy
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anger, which is in there. Yeah.
It's about that. Is it?
Because we all need all ouremotions to cope as people because
We often have that angeras a vision of aggression.
Something when we are afraidwas children when anger coming
from outside, especially when we don'tknow why. It's creating that fear in us.
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But anger is very useful.
Anger telling us when our boundarieswas violated. So we need it,
but when we people pleasing,
we suppressing it and then weoutburst it somewhere. Is it,
so it's kind of this balance.
So when we can work withall of our emotions,
our intuition and workingand so that's a great result
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of recovery from trauma.
So if somebody want to work with you,
what do you offer or howare you working with people?
So I offer,
of course I'm helping women with the PMDD,
PMS and with the painful periods also,
I'm working with adults. Yes.
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Which means plus 16 years old with men,
with a woman I'm working, I'mhelping them with anxiety.
I'm also working with thevictims of toxic relationships,
narcissistic abuse. So for this,
I have three months cooperation and I'mnot selling single session because we
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reallyneed to work on it and
three months it worksreally, really great.
And then I'm also workingwith the entrepreneurs
and I'm working in a way thatI'm connecting them to their true
self. Yes.
So it's not teaching aboutmechanically how you need to post and
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everything like that, but it's reallyconnecting them to their wisdom.
And this is very important to,
I would say dissolve allstructures and blueprint
from personal self. Yes,
we created in the past and to connect to
our true self because thisis what is very important.
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Once we are creating,
we need to bring something through us
right on the earth.
So I'm really focusing on authenticity.
I always saying that our only task onthe universe gave us to be ourself.
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Yes. And we need to find out who wetruly are because We were so damaged.
Yeah.
We play so many roles and putting somany faces on and stuff like that.
And then when we recoverfrom trauma, we are present,
we are present in themoment we are ourself.
And we can finally discover why
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I did discover it myself, whoI'm really and changed my life.
So it it's really about that.
And that's an amazing feelingto watching it in the clients,
watching it as people,
how they can start flourishing whenthey become themselves and how amazing
people are and people who did
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suffer and even physically and in pain and
emotionally and they becomingthemself and authentic and they
always have so much tooffer. Sort of all as it's so
it's why I love to be therapist.
Yeah, absolutely. It's like when someonesay, I don't know what I should do.
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I don't know what is mypurpose. And I'm saying, yeah,
but you don't need to know.Only your mind needs to know.
So you have to get outside of yourmind and to really connect to your
true being, but you canconnect to your true being,
but first you have to clearyourself up from all the
structures and from the pastexperience, which were traumatic.
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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.Yeah. That's what journey.
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.
So if somebody will want to contact you,
what is the best way tofind you or contact you?
I will of course step up the linksto the description of episode.
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What is my website.
Is the best. Yeah, my website.And then there is also email.
Or through Facebook or Instagram,
but through the website is theSo what is your website name?
It's www.luciapetrova.com.
Okay. So if you like Alexia,
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I would recommend everybodywho wants to work on themselves
and especially women with PMDTand want to really change their
life and get the time back and Ito feel better and change their
relationship with their partnersand with their children and get
success in their workplace.
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Contact Lucia and get help.
And as it doesn't take long,
it can be 1, 2, 3 monthsand you can be free of it.
So important is to believe that it'spossible and then it's going to be done.
So I'll of course delete thecontact for Lucia in the description
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of episode. You can find that. So Lucia,
what will be your closureadvice or what do you want
to tell our lessers in close your words?
My advice would be that there is ahelp exists and can be very fast.
So we don't really need to spend time a
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month on a therapy,
especially on the talking therapybecause I truly believe that
the only way to resolve our stack
emotions is hypnotherapy. For me,
this is the most powerfultechnique which exists
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and everyone should have this experience.
Thank you.
I agree with that because we cannot talkout something which is stored in the
body.
I tried and tried and some workingpeople and I think that if you
go and try, you will be reallysurprised how it's working.
And there is millionspeople already who went.
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So don't be afraid of it. It's nothingscary. It's actually very pleasant.
And so thank you for being on our podcast
and
see everybody else and the next episode.
Thank you so much, Barb, forhaving me. Thank you. You're.
Welcome.
Welcome to our next episode ofWay Out of Childhood Trauma,
and today is here with me Lucia Petrusova,
which is RTT therapist,
but Lucia is just more than that.
She is amazing business woman,
which she becoming one of theleading people and getting the
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high certification in LeanSix Sigma methodology.
So she really achieved veryhigh achievements in her
business life and move from Prague to
Paris. So Lucia, tellme what is your story?
Why from business life soproductive and successful,
(00:54):
you actually choose and become thetherapist and working with people affected
by trauma. Hello.
Barb and hello everyone.Thank you for having me.
So why from this business environment?
I switched to being atherapist and being a coach.
(01:16):
It is because
I was a corporate coachfor a very long time
and I find out thatI'm not coaching people
because I was also a trainerthat I'm not teaching people
or coaching them on a technical stuff.
(01:37):
But I find out that I'm reallycoaching them and teaching them how
to deal with issues, how to be themself,
their authentic self.
Whatever is happening in their life.
And many of them theysucceed and they change
a job position. They werepromoted or they left company,
(02:01):
yes because they achieve a highersalary raise and I was like,
oh my gosh,
I'm really changing lives of these
people. And I was really,
really proud for everyone wholeft because they find better job
and we created verynice friendships after.
(02:22):
So I'm still with maybe 95%of the people I was working.
I was working for EasternEurope, Balkan, Russia.
We kept in touch via socialmedia and I find out that
I really have this talent to connectwith people on a very deep level.
(02:43):
And at a certain moment Idecided I just don't feel any
fulfilment to teach somethingwhat was created by somebody
else. I really want to dosomething like what is me,
like this wisdom in me.
And I started to study coaching andthen with the coaching I was above
(03:05):
to decide if I'm going to be ICFcertified coach and I decided I
don't want to be becausethe way how we were
forced to ask the questions or keepcertain standards, I felt very limited.
So I learned something very importantabout myself that I cannot be
(03:25):
put into the box.
I'm not a soldier so Ican be very creative in
whatever I'm doing.
And then I decided I want to dosomething like what can change
people and help people very quicklywithin one session, two session.
And then I found out rapidtransformational therapy and I became a therapist.
(03:47):
So I combine hypnotherapywith the coaching
And you are also the therapist we can
be and we should be intuitive.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
And so what was that kind of moment when
you felt that this is working,
(04:10):
I really can change things for people,but what did you change for yourself?
What did I change Formyself? I changed a lot.
I have to say thatafter two years I really
started to feel not even me better,
but everything changed in my life.
(04:32):
People around me change. I was left alone.
It was like a huge detox becauseI needed new people to come
into my life.
And.
This is really very,
very important that once we change and we
resolve our love emotions, ourtrauma, we change our behaviour,
(04:53):
we change our life. And
so my most important thing,
what I change and I am reallyvery grateful for this,
is that I'm fully free from PMDD,
which is premenstrual dysphoric disorder.
I was suffering from it from since Istarted to have a period maybe, no,
(05:15):
maybe later when I was 17 years old,
I noticed that I am super emotional
and it took me really 20 yearsuntil I started to study RTT
and I had this class with my colleague
where we really resolve it within onesession and I didn't want to believe that.
(05:40):
So I waited maybe four to six months
that yeah, it's really gone.It's not anymore in my life.
And yeah, I'm fully like free.
A lot of women of course know P-M-D-D and
(06:01):
a lot of people suffer with that.Some people are not even diagnosed,
they don't understand that theyactually do suffer with that.
They're just taking having my days.
But how it does affected your life,
how it affected your life before,
what people would recognise thesymptoms that they have, PMDD,
(06:22):
maybe even they are notdiagnosed officially.
So what are the most common symptoms?The symptom number one is anger.
It's a huge anger. So.
They.
Are triggered by almost everything.
Then they are mood swings, irritability,
(06:46):
even anxiety, suicidal thoughts.
And also one of the symptom,
which I didn't know it was thesymptom I find out after was
that during this two weeks I alwayswanted to break up with my partner.
So this is very,
very difficult for relationshipbecause it can even feel like
(07:11):
you are abusing your partner. Yes.
But this emotional stageis so tough that you
just don't know how to help yourself,
how to proceed your heavy emotion.
So this life with PMDD is verydifficult for friendships for
(07:32):
life in a couple for professionallife also because whomever
can trigger you. So it'svery, very difficult.
That has be very hard for not all women,
but especially women in professionalpositions when you need to
keep composure and meetings andpresentation and being very irritable
(07:56):
and angry for almost noreasons that can really
bother women in their businesscareer and the progression
of their careers and can reallystruggling in relationships.
So we already spoke hereon podcast about that
anger as a trauma response,
(08:17):
which people recognisingthat it's actually,
so would you agree with that anger of even
in PMDD as trauma response?
Yes, absolutely. It istrauma response with PMDD.
What happened after my session,
not only anger was resolvedbut all other symptoms,
(08:39):
even bloating, yes,
because there is also bloating and thereis insomnia and all other symptoms.
So all other symptoms just disappear.
So this was pretty fascinatingbecause I thought okay,
I will need maybe other sessions. Yes,
more sessions are necessary ifsomeone for example is suffering also
(08:59):
from depression. Yes.
So.
Which PMDD can be very tough, tough state.
PMS premenstrual syndrome islike, I should not say that,
but slightly lighter version ormaybe in some culture they know
PMDD in other cultures they know PMS.
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So absolutely anger is a trauma response.
And also in my case,
in fact I somehow absorbed anger of
somebody else.
So this is very fascinatinghow we as a young
people, as a child,
(09:41):
we can absorb this huge negativeemotion of somebody else.
And I remember that the therapistasked me during the session,
so is this emotion yours? And Isaid no, this is not my emotion.
So we let it go and this ishow we let go of the anger.
Yeah, yeah. The generational trauma,
(10:01):
which many people still don'tunderstand actually working.
It's not just about passingon that information like the
behaviour which causing the trauma butactually passing on that it's the trauma
itself.
The children are very open to emotionscoming if it's during the pregnancy or
when they are small children orup to teenage years to actually
(10:25):
taking on that emotions of their parentsif it's the fear or if it's the anger
or so that's really amazing to hear
story of that actuallywhen we are releasing it,
it's how much is changing the life?
Is it that your life changedvery significantly with
(10:45):
one session or
few sessions to proceed to change? So.
Just to maybe add one thing,
what was really for me superrelieving was when I came out of
hypnosis and I said to thetherapist like Oh my god,
nothing is wrong with me.
(11:07):
Because.
Yes, women suffering from PMDD,
they really think and I wasalso thinking that I'm crazy
and it was such an incrediblerelief coming out of the hypnosis.
I said to myself, thereis nothing wrong with me.
In fact it has been never my fault.
I really just absorbedlike a sponge this emotion,
(11:30):
emotion of anger and I was carryingit with me living with this for 20
years.
Isn't that a lot of people don'trealise how much child trauma
really affecting daily lives ofpeople and there is not just this
traditional responses flight andflight because that's actually not what
(11:52):
children can react because children arenot in the position fight back or fly
or runaway is it?
So they going to the responses of phone
like people pleasing orfreeze or just kind of
surviving is it survival mode.
So would you recognise one ofthese responses in that you
(12:15):
would be maybe more like hold yourselfin some areas from something or
avoiding or doing what people likeor did you manage to avoid these
responses during your life?
No,
I was a people pleaser but Ididn't know that I am people
pleaser. Yes. I was really like,
(12:37):
yeah, it's not my style, I don'treally like it, but why not?
Let's go there. Let's do that. Yes.
Even my marriage was like that honestly.
I discovered after divorceI was like oh my gosh,
I got married sometime someoneI would not absolutely married
(13:01):
now.
Right. Obviously changing isit when we recover from trauma.
Yes, we completely see people froma different lenses. We are able to
see, I really call itand I'm telling clients.
So what you see is justyour trauma lenses.
You are just perceiving it from yourlevel of consciousness where you
(13:25):
are and you live yourlife through these lenses.
You're making decisions, youare choosing your partners,
you are choosing yourbosses, your friends.
So what do you would recommendto the women or other
people suffering with
(13:49):
PMDD physical manifestation of tarau,especially for women who suffer with PMDD?
What do you would recommend them to do?
In fact,
what I would really like toempower women who are still
waiting for some scientific research,
just don't wait for any research becausethis is really trauma trapped into your
(14:12):
body.
You.
Don't need any confirmationfrom a scientist.
It's just like a regular case for atherapist to deal with the trauma because
this is what PMDD is
because there is no medical help.
PMDD cannot be evendiagnosed with any blood
(14:34):
sample.
It's only symptomscollection and that's it.
But behind there is really traumaand I know that many women,
they don't like words trauma.
So let's call it that you arewounded but something happened to you
to everyone
(14:55):
in a certain period of the life and yeah,
we can deal with this andjust take a session or two.
It depends on everyone's state and youcan be free of it and really live a
life on your own terms.
Yeah,
I find out that people often notrecognising what all trauma is and I
(15:19):
feel that trauma has to be some bigevent or somebody who was in the war or
somebody who was in theaccident, but actually
childhood trauma,
it can be caused by unhappy parents
if they suffer with trauma,
if they are not managing theirlife and they are angry or they are
(15:44):
sad, they're withdrawn orthey are controlling at all, causing the trauma. And
we have similar backgroundgrowing up in oppression of
freedom and parents were very manyparents was very unhappy in that
time. So there is a lot of woundednations but also that is coming
(16:04):
generations since firstsecond war when it's carry on.
That's survival,
guilt or lack of opportunities,
lack of food that alsogrieving unprocessed
bereavements of lost millions.
So a lot of people actuallypassing on trauma and
(16:29):
sometimes people don't want to say thatthey suffer with trauma because they
said my parents did theirbest or they could, but yeah,
they had the outburst ofanger or they suffered and
I want to say peoplethat it's not blame on
parents,
it's not about telling that they wasbest parents. It's about understanding
(16:52):
how you as a childreacted to their behaviour
and we can have compassion andunderstanding for why they reacted.
Then many of them grew upin own childhood trauma
of grow up after war or evenwas born during the war.
And so it's not passing blame,
(17:14):
it's about just understanding whatreally happened during our own
childhood and we all haveall different stories and
do something with that. It'simportant that it's not forever.
Yes, absolutely. It's likeonce we are grown up adults,
it's our responsibility to findthe help and to heal ourself,
(17:37):
to be a good partner, to be agood friend, to be a good parent.
My mom, she was like inthe past saying, but me,
I never went to the therapist and I said,
please do not tell it to anyonebecause I spent quite a lot of money on
therapist.
Or when.
I was in Slovakia and we werewatching TV and my father asked me,
(18:01):
they were speaking about mentalhealth and my father asked me,
what is OCD? And I said,
well let me introduceyou and all her siblings.
So this behaviour, what they'redoing, cleaning all the time,
this is OCD.
So now it's like they'reopen to this. Yes,
(18:23):
they're very interested in what I'm doing.
I'm explaining they know what is trauma,
they know that there is a helpfor this. But yes, as you said,
we both come from very let's say
limited culture where going to even
psychologists meant duringcommunistic period that
(18:44):
something is really, really wrong withyou if you need that type of help.
But now also in media andmedia speak about mental
health, their podcastdedicated to mental health.
So it's going better.
Yeah, it's what we try on our podcast.
(19:05):
You hope because people out ofpeople still believe that it
cannot be helped. That is forever. And
it's all this collection of streets ofthose people who saw that on themselves
but also on their clients or theirfriends are important because
that change in society is
(19:29):
moving. But if you go for example,
look at you and explain or giveexample people how you would
apply it to the business setting.
If there are the womenwhich suffer with PMDD,
how is affecting productivityand effectiveness in the company,
why it's important to supportthis recovery and why iOS?
(19:53):
I think that businessesshould more invest to
therapies for women.
Absolutely. Imagine that women with PMDD,
they suffer the health of their cycle,
which is 14 days, some of them even more.
They're really under these heavy emotions.
(20:13):
It means that they turn into the versionwhich is completely different than they
are. So you cannot really focuson your work when you are angry.
Yes, when you are easily irritated.
So you cannot do properly yourbusiness. So it's like 50% at minimum,
50% of your time is just youare dealing with your emotions.
(20:38):
This is it.
And it doesn't matter if aperson is a businesswoman or I
dunno, working in the shop. Yes.
Because this is also very difficult.
Same for women who aresuffering from painful
periods,Exactly the same thing.
Having a painful periodis not a normal natural
(21:02):
thing because our cycleis really peaceful.
It is really just theis only discomfort but
no pain.
So painful periods alsowe are not able to work.
Yes, women who are suffering from this,they're not able to work for three,
four days. It depends and they needto take a medication. But again,
(21:26):
painful period are suppressed emotions.
And again, one of the parent was abusive,
yes,
with a narcissistic disorder or they are
under any type of abuse at the workplace,
(21:46):
they are in the toxic place or they'rein the toxic relationship or friendship.
So this is the historyand the root cause of
why they are havingpainful period is there.
So.
This is also very importantthat yeah, it's not only PMDD,
but I would say also our feminine cycle
(22:10):
is not what women think that.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I see we can see it alsoalmost sadistic when we compare
the different nations where Indonesians,
where the women rights and positionin society is very oppressed
and they are more attacked.
(22:34):
For example, sexually or physically,
there is actually higher percentageof really painful period of
PMDD because that's about it,
attack on femininity and relatedto it also it's menopause and
how we going through that becauseit's all about the relationship.
It's me as women, as women.What is me as me in society?
(22:58):
Can I be free? Can I be myself?Is it or has to be people,
pleaser has to adapt. I have tofight for my position in society.
So all these things related to the period,
if it's before, during, orwhen it's ending, are related
(23:19):
to our settings or emotionalsettings to our beliefs and things
and how we work with that. So
if somebody would say that theycannot of course, for example,
therapy and some women don't becausethey are in maybe in this moment course
if relationships and they don'thave that financial freedom to do
(23:42):
that,
what would be some tip for them to howthey can start working on what you would
recommend them?
In fact, there are also alot of resources online. Yes,
it can be some exercise, it can be yoga.
Nitra is really great to countdown and to connect with your body.
Yoga nitra is really, reallygreat. So they can start with,
(24:06):
there is a lot of freehelp now on social media,
but I would love to also say thatif they don't have resources,
there are plenty,
plenty of therapists whoare offering a session for
discounted price
or they even do some free sessions for
(24:30):
students for example.But if you are ready,
the teacher will appear.It's always like that.
And then in fact the bestinvestment is always in ourself.
So imagine if woman is 30years old with the PMDD,
so she's going to make itfor additional 30 years. Yes.
(24:52):
Or maybe 25 living
with all these trapped emotionsand not living a life but really
surviving. So if you make a calculation,
then it's not expensive and sometimesyou really need the one session
to resolve all these issues.
(25:14):
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
And it's really importantfor people to understand that
stored in body, but doesn't mean thatit's mean that it has to stay there.
It's just provisional storage andactually all these activities,
all these symptoms,
it's how the mind trying to get rid ofit and trying to release it from the body
(25:35):
in some way is it?
So when we give the mind thechance to do that in safety,
an environment of, for example,
rapid transformational is going veryquickly and mine is very happy to do that
because it's kind of action.
We find a way which will be mucheasier and quicker. Let's do it.
We don't want this emotions herebecause it's how mine works.
(25:59):
Don't want to store this autoemotion. It's very tiring. It's very
time consuming.
That's why very often causing also thebrain fog and focusness because the mind
is trying to hold it.
So how would you say thatyour life is now without
your meeting?
Oh my god. The woman. Yeah.
(26:22):
It's like I remember still this feeling,
it was like after session and thenwhen I was waiting I was after
ovulation. So I was waiting. Okay,
so when I will switchinto my crazy version,
I'm saying that because I can, yousee, I'm telling also everybody, yeah,
this is your crazy version. In fact,
(26:45):
it felt like there was anempty space in me, in my body.
And.
It was a space only for me to decidewhat I'm going to do with this
space,
with what emotion I'mgoing to feel this space.
Because there was no anger, there wasno bloating, there was no irritability.
(27:05):
So I really felt like, okay,
this is something what I have neverexperienced in my life, me in my body,
but very different.
It.
Felt like it's me,
but there is something newand unknown, totally unknown.
And it was such a reallyfantastic feeling.
(27:30):
And since that time my lifechanged completely. As I said,
all my friends I had,they left within a year.
It was really like a detoxBecause of this huge,
because I was in the low vibrationallevel I can say with all these heavy
emotions.
So I was attracting different peoplethan I'm attracting right now.
(27:55):
I started my business, yes. Iwas like, okay, this is really,
I knew what I want to do evenmore. Before I knew, okay,
my calling is I want to do this.
But after that everythingbecame much more clearer.
So I got the clarity, inspiration.
For me it was just incrediblethat I can work whole month.
(28:17):
I don't work only three days when I haveperiod because I'm tired and it's very
normal for us. So we don't work,we don't work out, we do nothing.
Just we are resting. But I waslike, this is just fantastic.
I can work all month long
and this is really, reallyjust, I gain a lot of time.
So I'm much more productive.I'm calm, I'm much more calmer.
(28:42):
And yeah,
I also attract completelydifferent type of people.
How changed your relationships?
My relationships. I'mnot the fighter. Yes,
but I'm not people pleaser.This is also what really left
(29:04):
my body and my mind that
I'm very clearly expressing myself and I'm
expressing my needs.
And then I know when angerappear, when I'm angry,
I know that my values wereviolated and I know this is healthy
(29:25):
anger, which is in there. Yeah.
It's about that. Is it?
Because we all need all ouremotions to cope as people because
We often have that angeras a vision of aggression.
Something when we are afraidwas children when anger coming
from outside, especially when we don'tknow why. It's creating that fear in us.
(29:49):
But anger is very useful.
Anger telling us when our boundarieswas violated. So we need it,
but when we people pleasing,
we suppressing it and then weoutburst it somewhere. Is it,
so it's kind of this balance.
So when we can work withall of our emotions,
our intuition and workingand so that's a great result
(30:12):
of recovery from trauma.
So if somebody want to work with you,
what do you offer or howare you working with people?
So I offer,
of course I'm helping women with the PMDD,
PMS and with the painful periods also,
I'm working with adults. Yes.
(30:34):
Which means plus 16 years old with men,
with a woman I'm working, I'mhelping them with anxiety.
I'm also working with thevictims of toxic relationships,
narcissistic abuse. So for this,
I have three months cooperation and I'mnot selling single session because we
(30:54):
reallyneed to work on it and
three months it worksreally, really great.
And then I'm also workingwith the entrepreneurs
and I'm working in a way thatI'm connecting them to their true
self. Yes.
So it's not teaching aboutmechanically how you need to post and
(31:18):
everything like that, but it's reallyconnecting them to their wisdom.
And this is very important to,
I would say dissolve allstructures and blueprint
from personal self. Yes,
we created in the past and to connect to
our true self because thisis what is very important.
(31:42):
Once we are creating,
we need to bring something through us
right on the earth.
So I'm really focusing on authenticity.
I always saying that our only task onthe universe gave us to be ourself.
(32:04):
Yes. And we need to find out who wetruly are because We were so damaged.
Yeah.
We play so many roles and putting somany faces on and stuff like that.
And then when we recoverfrom trauma, we are present,
we are present in themoment we are ourself.
And we can finally discover why
(32:28):
I did discover it myself, whoI'm really and changed my life.
So it it's really about that.
And that's an amazing feelingto watching it in the clients,
watching it as people,
how they can start flourishing whenthey become themselves and how amazing
people are and people who did
(32:52):
suffer and even physically and in pain and
emotionally and they becomingthemself and authentic and they
always have so much tooffer. Sort of all as it's so
it's why I love to be therapist.
Yeah, absolutely. It's like when someonesay, I don't know what I should do.
(33:14):
I don't know what is mypurpose. And I'm saying, yeah,
but you don't need to know.Only your mind needs to know.
So you have to get outside of yourmind and to really connect to your
true being, but you canconnect to your true being,
but first you have to clearyourself up from all the
structures and from the pastexperience, which were traumatic.
(33:38):
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.Yeah. That's what journey.
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.
So if somebody will want to contact you,
what is the best way tofind you or contact you?
I will of course step up the linksto the description of episode.
(34:00):
What is my website.
Is the best. Yeah, my website.And then there is also email.
Or through Facebook or Instagram,
but through the website is theSo what is your website name?
It's www.luciapetrova.com.
Okay. So if you like Alexia,
(34:22):
I would recommend everybodywho wants to work on themselves
and especially women with PMDTand want to really change their
life and get the time back and Ito feel better and change their
relationship with their partnersand with their children and get
success in their workplace.
(34:44):
Contact Lucia and get help.
And as it doesn't take long,
it can be 1, 2, 3 monthsand you can be free of it.
So important is to believe that it'spossible and then it's going to be done.
So I'll of course delete thecontact for Lucia in the description
(35:06):
of episode. You can find that. So Lucia,
what will be your closureadvice or what do you want
to tell our lessers in close your words?
My advice would be that there is ahelp exists and can be very fast.
So we don't really need to spend time a
(35:30):
month on a therapy,
especially on the talking therapybecause I truly believe that
the only way to resolve our stack
emotions is hypnotherapy. For me,
this is the most powerfultechnique which exists
(35:51):
and everyone should have this experience.
Thank you.
I agree with that because we cannot talkout something which is stored in the
body.
I tried and tried and some workingpeople and I think that if you
go and try, you will be reallysurprised how it's working.
And there is millionspeople already who went.
(36:15):
So don't be afraid of it. It's nothingscary. It's actually very pleasant.
And so thank you for being on our podcast
and
see everybody else and the next episode.
Thank you so much, Barb, forhaving me. Thank you. You're.
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