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Welcome.
Welcome to a new episode of the Way Out of Childhood Trauma
Today is here with me Elsa Antheia, therapist from
Iceland, living in Sweden and currently in Greece.
So she is very international and she is
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the fellow RTT therapist but she has very
interesting story of recovery from childhood trauma.
It's why I invite her over to share her story
with our listeners and tips how to. What were these moments of the
recovery and how everybody can start this journey of recovery
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because that is why we are doing this podcast.
So welcome Elsa.
Can you introduce yourself to listeners for having
me here and welcoming me so nicely.
Yeah, my name is Elsa Antheia and I'm
a graduate RTT therapist just like you.
So I'm just excited to be here. Thank you.
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You're welcome.
So what's brought you to becoming therapist?
I've always been helping people in some way
and I've always been interested in why we
are the way we are. Going,
starting with myself, starting to look within myself.
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At 21 years old I was dragged
into organization called Alanon because a friend
knew I was broken and helped me.
And from there I started to build myself up and
I've just had this quality within me to help others.
And I just have felt a lot of pain
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in my life, especially from childhood, and go up.
And what I find is that if I can put
a smile on someone's face, I do that.
And guide people towards getting released
from the pain, I do that.
I've always done that and I'm
actually pretty good at it.
And finding Marissa Peer and RTT was just send from the universe
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to do this work in a proper way.
That's amazing.
So when you wasn't in recovery, when you suffer,
what was the main symptoms, what was the things
that should really troubled you in your life?
I would say lack of just happiness,
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lack of listening to myself actually.
And the more I can look back, I can
see that I'm not listening to my intuition.
Just like I'm ignoring those red flags and
I was thinking this will get better.
But the thing is we need to understand okay
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now and I've been that for a little while,
it doesn't have to be a long time.
Most times will not get better.
We need to face the issue right away instead
of just hoping that things will just fix itself
because they won't, we need to fix them.
So what was the kind of tipping point for you
when it started going instead of down the up?
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What was the most powerful thing when
you feel that it start really turning?
I have had many so many ups and downs, I have
crashed so many times I can't even count them.
I needed to fall that many times.
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I wouldn't wish that for anyone, but
that's part of the lesson as well.
But falling down is being in a marriage
where actually two marriages where I was really
not being valuated and just really ignoring those.
I was not being true to myself and
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feeling that in my core, something was not
okay because I didn't listen to my intuition.
And feeling that great pain within me is like,
am I going to be stuck there, or am
I going to do something about it?
And the time of going forward can take time.
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But when you're just looking
for answers, you're going forward.
It doesn't matter if you feel like you're still there.
You're not because you're looking for answers.
You're looking for something to help you.
You might feel like you're always going
to close doors everywhere you go.
But that's also a part of the process.
If there's a closed door, you know that
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you're not supposed to go that door.
So find another door.
That's the thing.
Sometimes people give up because the door is closed.
Oh, there's another door closed? Yeah. Okay.
Because that's not the door you're supposed to go in.
Just look at it that way. It's very easy. Okay.
We'll seek forward.
Sometimes it gets hurt to look for another door.
I have many times just wanted to die.
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Just literally wanted to die because I
was feeling like there was no hope.
There was like, why am I even
bothering living this life too many times?
But there is something within me that knew
that I was supposed to be here and
I was supposed to live this life.
I mean, we're here to live this life and enjoy it.
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I've always believed that there is happiness for
everyone, and the happiness comes from within.
And most of the things that I realized
is that I was lacking self love.
And I didn't realize that until just really recently,
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just few months ago, through RTT Hypnotherapy sessions, that
I was not receiving love as a child.
And that's why I didn't love myself all these years.
I was always trying to find problem, but
the problem was I didn't love myself as
much as I gave love to everyone else.
Very kind, big hearted woman.
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And I just didn't put those eyes into me.
I respected myself.
That's a different thing.
Totally different thing than loving
yourself and respecting yourself.
Yeah, absolutely.
Realizing that loving yourself is how you talk
to yourself, how you are treating yourself.
Are you giving yourself time or you put you first.
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So the process is just standing up.
It doesn't matter what actually there is.
It's been so many times for me
to stand up or falling down. Just keep moving.
Find the door that's open for you.
That's great advice.
And it's absolutely true.
When we are not connected with our self-love.
When we are not loving
ourselves, it's everything else struggle.
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Is it because people would say, no,
I'm not going to the gym.
I'm not exercising, I'm not eating well.
Yeah, because if we're not loving
ourselves, we don't care about ourself.
And it's showing on all life, on
work on relationship everything is it.
So what do you think that people can
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do to start loving themselves if they really
feel that they as children didn't get it?
So how to learn it?
Yeah.
Learning to love yourself when you're not receiving it
as a child is just the hardest thing.
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You seek love around you.
That's what I was doing all the time.
I was trying to seek love and get in love
for other people because I was not really seeing that
in the way I needed as a child.
So trying to get that from spouse and another spouse
and another spouse, always in the spouse, not necessarily friends,
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maybe at some point, but it's like you're trying to
feed something that is not there because you're supposed to
be just feeding your self love.
And the most important part is when you were
speaking about that, when you're not eating enough healthy
or not going to the gym or these things,
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it's like if you're having some of these issues
that's because something needs healing within you.
There's nothing like people
are always blaming themselves.
They want to start a diet to do
something and it just only works for a
little while and then everything goes badly.
And then you're blaming yourself and
starting talking badly about yourself.
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That's just a sign that you need some healing.
There's nothing wrong with you.
There's just something that has happened
to you that needs healing.
So that like now talking about this
really keeps me feeling pain towards people
that are blaming themselves for something that
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there's nothing that there's wrong with them.
There's nothing wrong with them.
Just a program in our mind that has something
at some point infected you in that way.
It needs to be reprogrammed.
That's why RTT is so efficient and such a fast pace.
I wouldn't believe how fast I could recover like
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this as I was broken when I came to
you for help, how broken I was.
And now I don't know what six, seven months
later, I am like a total different person.
I can say I can look in the mirror and say I love you.
I can wink myself, hey, you look good today.
And even though, I mean still after gaining weight for
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my time period when I was very low, I look
at these weight different way than I did before.
I was not blaming myself.
I'm just saying like, okay, you had a rough patch.
We're just going to go through this together.
We're now in a better place and
we're going forward day by day.
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Everything takes time.
Healing especially takes time and we
need to be patient with ourselves.
Yeah, but I think that's amazing story and
kind of confirming that people actually can recover
and in quite short time, even if it's
the half year, six, seven months, I know
your life changed really significantly during that time.
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And I think that is really that message of hope for
people who going for years to some talk therapies or are
on medication and kind of accept it that they are miserable
and they just try and kind of live with that.
That's not really necessary, is it?
Can be really change.
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Yeah, I'm glad that you mentioned it because I
have been looking into myself since I was 21,
finding solutions, understanding, looking within, trying to fix those
things that were wrong with it.
I got a lot of good things out of
it, but the thing is I was stuck.
It wasn't until RTT came that I really could loosen
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up those bad blueprints that my brain had and those
understanding of seeing things at a different angle.
Because through RTT, going into hypnosis, it
has a different view on what's the
problem and what was causing the problem.
Not only that, it's only just talking about the
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issue is not going to solve the issue.
You can get some guidance, but
it's just a total different thing.
It's taking that magic pill.
It's just like going through magic.
You're going into the pain for a short time, but then
you're going to be like at the end of the tunnel.
It is an eye opening.
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It's freeing actually.
I don't get enough of RTT sessions because every time I
get a session I feel so liberate and free afterwards.
Then the feeling of this relaxation and
getting connected with myself, it's a wonderful
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feeling in so many ways.
I will never ever receiving these sessions because
I know I'm always a work in progress.
There's some challenges I haven't
gone through in my life.
I mean, I'm 42 years old.
I have many years ahead of me.
No one is saying that I've
gone through all my worst things.
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This is just a bad thing.
Talking about with friends and the
therapist is always something good.
But if you want to really dig into your
stuff and really get recovered, it's it's that work.
Yeah.
So now you're working as a therapist.
What clients are you working with?
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What is your client?
I'm specializing in sexual issues and
that's what I'm focusing on.
And why I'm doing that is because I believe that it's
also a part of deeply who we are as a person,
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our needs, our desires, and through the porn and the physical
looks and how you are supposed to look and behave.
And it's getting us further from our core.
And a lot of people have issues both,
um, just it doesn't matter what it is
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with sexual issues, I will work on those.
But mostly is to be who you are inside of the
bedroom or wherever you want to have those fun times.
It's all about you being connected with who you are.
So that's what my focus is.
But take clients with any problems of course, but that's my
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focus because I believe that if we are connected with our
core in the sexual way, we get our confidence.
We get our everything that is also needed
in other areas at work or wherever.
If we have that in the bedroom, I think we're good.
So you're working with the man, woman?
Both, yeah, everything people also figuring out their sexuality,
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people even thinking if they are trans or just
whatever someone who doesn't able to get an orgasm
or someone who has a porn addiction or just
everything about the sexual urge is actually it doesn't
matter what it is.
It's just for me very important to be connected
with those parts and those who are figuring out
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if they're gay or lesbian doesn't matter.
Sexual part is just so important to be connected with.
Yeah.
Did you see when you're working with your clients
any connection with this issue and their childhoods?
Yes, many ways.
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The interesting part is every client is
unique but there is a connection always.
It is always coming from the childhood
at some point it's the messages receive.
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When we are young children we don't understand those
messages properly because our brain is not fully evolved.
So we are reading it differently and also just it's
like reading a simple book and the text is wrong.
That's actually what's happening.
We're reading wrong text and that's what we learn and
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that's what we take with us to the adulthood.
That's what's happening to everyone.
Actually all of us do that at some
point at some level that's what we're reading.
So we're learning that book wrongly the wrong text.
It's like we had Dyslexia or something.
We're reading things wrong.
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So yes, all the cases that I've handled
so far have all connections to the childhood.
This is a little interesting how childhood affecting
us so much in adulthood even when we
don't realizing it is it like we also
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speaking on our podcast about childhood trauma.
That's why it's calling way out of childhood trauma
and it's manifesting in so many different ways.
It's like how we are affected with what we are
told, what we are behaved, how emotions we get as
children if it's the suppressed curiosity about something or not
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feel love for who we are or as we are.
How it's demonstrating in peoples in a different way.
It is scary.
That is the case because children are so sensitive.
We don't give them credit for how sensitive they
are and also not how smart they are.
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People always just put them down that
honestly won't understand this or thinking that
the child won't read the room.
Of course the child reads the room.
They are so sensitive and they know so much more than
you think and if they don't know the truth they read
the room wrong and then they take that knowledge with them
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because a lot of parents don't want to share something with
their children and what does that cost?
They make up the story in their
mind and that story is never correct.
So it's very important to understand how sensitive
they are and how intelligent they are.
So for me today, I look at children
so differently after learning RTT so differently.
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Take more time to smile to them, talk to them,
go down on my knees, look them in the eyes.
And it's totally different.
Because today I see how important those individuals
are and they get what they need.
So if it will be one really message you would want
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to people remember and take on what it would be listen
to yourself and your intuition in anything it can be.
I have had like for me I was putting something
away and my intuition said don't put it there.
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There was a reason why they said don't put
it there because that might have fallen down or
something like that and those red flags are intuition.
If it's some sneaky voice comes up in your mind
and you ignore it, it's going to have consequences.
So always listen to that and follow heart and
live from your heart, love from your heart, everything
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comes from the heart and never settle for anything
less than what you deserve and what you want.
That's like no ever today I always push people
to go after what they want that's why also
what I want to work with the sexual issue
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also so important to go for what you want.
We all have different needs and desires
but you have to be really connected
with yourself so listen to yourself.
That's my message.
Yeah thank you very much Elsa that was so
interesting and it's really interesting the what clients you
work with so where your clients can find you.
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Yeah I am on LinkedIn Elsa Antheia but also
I am betterconnectionswithin on Instagram, I am
on Facebook and I also have a website bcwithin.com so it's just short for better connections within
because long name so that's what I'm striving for
with my clients to get better connections within.
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So if you have any issues that you would want
to discuss with Elsa, you can contact her on Instagram,
on Facebook as better connection within, or you can find
her at the Elsa Antheia or Bcwithin.com.
And I will put the links to the description.
And I'm very thankful that you came on our podcast
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because it was really interesting story and what you working in.
So if you have any questions for me or Elsa you can
leave the comments and we will be happy to answer.
And I will want to invite you for next week
for our next episode of Way Out of the childhood
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trauma, when we will speak with Lela about very hard
topic and it's about trauma of children, because I don't
know if you heard, but in Serbia was now three
shooting in the schools and the young child, 13 years
old boy shooted 14 children.
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That is big trauma.
But it's not happening just there
it's happening also in the US.
And so we will speak about the topic how
can be helped to children and also parents which
coming through this traumatizing events in their life, what
can be first aid in mental health and how
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they can be helped long term.
So tune to us for next episode
of Way out of childhood trauma.
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And thank you very much, Elsa,
one more time for coming.
Thank you so much for having me.
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And see you, everybody.
Next time. Bye.