What happens when fear meets perfect love?
In this unforgettable episode, Eric Scovill sits down with Carole Ward, a third-generation missionary who has spent over 20 years in some of Africa’s most dangerous regions—places most people would run from, not toward. But by the grace of God, Carole doesn’t flinch.
With raw honesty and deep spiritual insight, she shares how an intimate, daily (hourly!) relationship with Jesus becomes the key to fearless living—even in the face of war and spiritual darkness.
Her stories of divine protection and miraculous provision are truly awe-inspiring, and Eric and Carole also discuss the practical wisdom behind these stories: how to hear God clearly, how to live from the "secret place," and how to walk boldly when everything around you says to retreat.
This episode is a call to deeper faith, deeper obedience, and a deeper understanding of what’s possible when you trust God with everything.
0:00 Introduction 5:08 Spiritual realm differences between Africa and West
19:29 Finding intimacy with God in the "closet"
24:00 Practicing Sabbath and following the Spirit's lead
36:21 Knowing God's face in times of need
41:29 Bringing light into the darkest places
46:52 Miracles and transformation in hostile territory
Resources Mentioned:
Book: Send Me Where No One Wants to Go
Book: Send Us Where No One Wants to Go
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