What is Wrong with Hiring

What is Wrong with Hiring

The podcast where we try to understand why hiring and getting hired in tech are both absolute nightmares. Hosted by Laura Klein and Amy Santee.


November 12, 2023 31 mins

For this episode, we answer some listener-submitted questions, including

  • How do I answer those annoying questions like "tell me about a time when you had a difficult stakeholder" or "a challenge with a teammate", especially when I don't have a good example?
  • How do we deal with the farce of companies expecting everyone to have a cogently designed professional brand and career when sometimes we choose...
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We're wrapping up our Hiring Horror Stories series with more spine chilling anecdotes from hiring managers who, like their job seeker counterparts, must also regularly deal with unacceptable levels of hiring clusterfuckery. 

In Part 3, we share some terrible tales from our listeners featuring major organizational incompetence, pompous candidates, frustratingly fickle decision-makers, and more. We like to think that a couple of th...

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October 22, 2023 37 mins

Today for Part 2 of our Hiring Horror Stories series, we continue with more terrible tales from job candidates. 


Episode transcript

Got a hiring topic request? Reach out to Amy on LinkedIn and we can cover it in a future episode.

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October 14, 2023 42 mins
In honor of Spooky Season, Amy and Laura share some hiring horror stories sent in by listeners (thank you!). This episode features spine tingling tales of candidates getting ghosted (see what we did there?), tricked (like trick or treat, get it?!), and treated ghoulishly by ghastly beings and businesses (ok, look, they can't all be winners).   Also, there's one involving a hot tub. Seriously, what is wrong with people?   

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September 25, 2023 32 mins

For this episode, we "randomly" select five questions from Listeners Like You (thanks!) and attempt to give quick (well, as quick as Laura ever gets) answers to each of them. 

  • What's up with unpaid take-home assignments as part of the interview process?
  • How many rounds of interviews and assignments is actually reasonable?
  • Should I apply to a job if I don't meet all the qualifications?
  • What the heck is going on right now with hu...
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August 28, 2023 33 mins

In this episode, Amy and Laura discuss the awful state of job postings—even the best ones are a bit confusing, and the worst are pretty much just bad fiction. If you are baffled by the different titles, levels, code words, and meaningless jargon, tune in for some tips for how to figure out what you're even applying for, and how to identify the red, green, yellow, and checkered flags. Plus a special cameo from our producer, Adonis!


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August 8, 2023 28 mins

In this episode, Laura and Amy talk about who you should listen to when looking for career advice. Besides Laura and Amy, obvs. The answer is pretty straightforward, except it sort of isn't.

Also, sorry about the audio on this one. Technology is hard. 

Got a hiring topic request? Reach out to Amy on LinkedIn and we can cover it in a future episode.   Episode Transcript
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In this episode, Amy and Laura talk about their experiences as freelancers, consultants, coaches, trainers, and everything else in tech. They explain which business models to use when and how to not get screwed by red flag clients. 

Some useful links for more information after you listen to the show: 

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June 27, 2023 36 mins

In this episode, Laura and Amy chat about the pros and cons of becoming a freelancer, consultant, contractor or some other form of self employed person. After all, it's tough to get hired these days! Maybe you should hire you! 

Got a hiring topic request? Reach out to Amy on LinkedIn and we can cover it in a future episode.

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June 6, 2023 32 mins

In this episode, Amy and Laura talk about a few key ways to help other folks get jobs, even in a bad market.


Based on Amy's blog post, which you can check out here.

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May 16, 2023 38 mins

Amy Santee and Laura Klein kick off a whole new season of ranting about hiring! In this episode, Amy and Laura talk about what's been going on in tech over the last 9 months or so (spoiler: it's not great!) and what this means for folks looking for jobs. They also tease some future podcast episodes that they'll probably get around to recording in the future. 

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September 27, 2022 33 mins

In this episode, Laura talks to Mary Lukanuski about how to tell whether a candidate is right for the job. They discuss the pros and cons (mostly cons) of design exercises of various sorts and the things that actually do help you hire better. 

Drink Pairing: Mezcal Negroni

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In this episode, Laura talks to Cindy Alvarez, Director of UX for Powerpoint, about how to figure out what sort of hire you really need and write a job description targeted to the right folks. 

Drink pairing: Sparkling Rose

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In this episode, Laura talks to Bryan Cantrill, CTO of Oxide, about a wildly different approach to recruiting and hiring. 

Drink Pairing: Diet Dr. Pepper

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In this episode, Laura talks with Lisa Dusseault, CTO and Co-founder of Compaas about how to make sure you're making the right offer and paying people fairly for their work. 

Drink Pairing: California Chardonnay (properly chilled!) 



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In this episode, Laura talks with James Mayes, Founder at Mind the Product and currently an Evangelist at Pendo about why recruiting in tech is so hard and why recruiting technology can make it even harder. 

Pendo is hiring! 

Drink Pairing: Pinot Noir

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In this episode, Laura talks to Emmy Southworth, Principal Product Manager at Lendio about how she created an apprenticeship program to create new designers. 

Interested in working with Emmy? Lendio is hiring

Drink Pairing: Draft Diet Dr. Pepper


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In this episode, Laura interviews Lawrence Humphry and Fallon Blossom, the co-founders of Pearl. They talk about finding tech folks from non-traditional backgrounds and creating a better hiring pipeline. 

Pearl is a brand new platform for peer based leadership consulting where you can get wisdom and guidance from people you trust. 

Drink Pairings: Berry Sparkling Water or an Old Fashioned, depending on time of day

(note from Laura:...

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In this episode, Laura interviews Sarah Milstein, VP of Engineering at Daily. They talk about how to position smaller companies to compete with the big corporations and be appealing even in a hot market. 

Drink Pairing: Lambrusco

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In this episode, Laura talks with Tracy Kroop, the Director of User Experience at Boomi, about how hiring managers can forge a great relationship with recruiters and how the process is largely broken. 

Interested in working with Tracy? Boomi is hiring!  

Drink Pairing: Old Fashioned

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