National Reciprocity, Florida 2A Laws & Tax Reform w/ Luis Valdes

This episode dives in with guest Luis Valdes to cover GOA's push for national reciprocity and Puerto Rico's laws, and setting the stage for Florida's political scene. Topics include the clash between the Republican legislature and DeSantis on immigration, efforts to lower the purchase age to 18, and property tax reforms. It concludes with UK laws, personal stories, and the importance of pressuring lawmakers for 2A rights.

Episode Transcript

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not quite as creepy as it is.
Is Lewis jumping on or not?
He should be.
I'm not sure what's up.
Let's let's get going before we lose people.
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hopefully, I have all of this set up right.
We will find out.
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I hope you guys have your big girl panties on.
It's, Florida civil war because believe it ornot, there is a civil war.
And I I have to
say, I I did not do this on purpose.
No.
You heard you.
Damn it.
I should
you know what?
I should've put on a GOA shirt.
Damn it.
I literally my GOA shirt on purpose.
With my name, of course.

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Yeah.
Lewis has got his name on there, and there heis legit.
I must have a do I have a GOA hat here?
Oh, you know what?
Hold on.
Hold on.
I will not let you guys out GOA me.
Respect, though, to arm's list.
You know,
respect.
There you go.
G o a hat.
Now we're now we're matching.

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There you go.
Yeah.
So we've got Luis Valdez, who you are thedirector of the Florida branch of of GOA.
I'm sure I got that wrong, Luis.
Fill me in on that.
So I'm the let let's go over the whole titlelist.
National spokesman, Florida state director, anddirector of outreach for Puerto Rico and The

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Virgin Islands.
Sweet.
Oh.
Nice.
Puerto Rico too.
Cool.
Oh, yeah.
Gia Oueda.
We cover the entire country, not just thestates.
We cover the territories too, brother.
There you go.
Boom.
So soon you'll be covering Greenland and Canadaas well.
Canada.
Mean, I I hope the border goes all the way downto the Darien Gap.

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You know?
It it'd be real nice to to move the mainoffices down there to where we're not freezing
to death.
Oh, okay.
Wait.
You say we're taking over Mexico?
We're going everywhere.
Might as well.
Might as well.
Take it all.
Take it all.
So we've got baby face p joining us.
Yes.
Yes.
I What's up, Patrick?
I am ready to lose my mind over politicstonight.

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Oh, okay.
So between you and Lewis,
I guess I that's good.
I could just control stuff.
I only get nowadays, I only get the stuff onTwitter pretty much about Florida from Lewis on
his Twitter commenting on everybody else'sTwitter, and I'm losing my mind over what the
all the
Yes.
And all the nonsense they're doing.
Yes.
A lot of nonsense.

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We will get into it.
Walter's not here.
I hope everything's good with Walter.
You know, he might check-in with us.
I don't know.
But it you know, he he won't be coming intonight.
Big shout out to everyone who is in the chat,and I just wanna remind everyone who's out
there, please hit those thumbs ups.
We really need and appreciate the thumbs upfrom everyone, so hit those.

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Let's see who we got in here.
Shooting Galleries out there.
Shout out to him.
We've got Seabolish, Jade Grew as well outthere, Night Train Original also out there.
What does Night Train say, babyface?
I hope you liked my photo sporting my recentlyacquired g 17.
I haven't seen it.
Where did you post it?
Because I wanna see it.
Because Yeah.

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Where would that be?
And then he also says, I wanna visit PuertoRico with my Venezuelan wife, but I can't bring
my concealed carry firearm there.
Any chance GOA can rectify that obstacle?
Okay.
People starting early with so, Louis, I'll letyou I'm
all up for it, brother.
I'm all up.
So we're doing a couple of things.
Of course, you know, with HR 38, the nationalreciprocity bill in congress, we're pushing

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that heavily.
That got out of its first committee.
It's now going to the rule committee where webelieve it's gonna pass out and then it's gonna
go to the floor of the house and congress andhopefully onto the senate and to president
Trump's desk.
Mhmm.
So that's one avenue of attack we're pushingfor full reciprocity for all Americans.
But another thing we're doing is we're actuallytrying to deal directly with the government of

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Puerto Rico because, look, they're just likeany other state or territory.
They could establish reciprocity.
So we're in 2019, they changed their laws frommay issue to shall issue.
Now prior to the law change, you had to get apermit to own and a permit to carry.

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It was a lot like New York and Illinois.
Now the permit is all combined.
The permit to own is a permit to carry.
It shall issue.
And when they passed the law, they wrote itthat as long as the the basically, their
version of the state police, the Puerto Ricanpolice department sets up what they call a

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memorandum of understanding, which is the fancyway of saying reciprocity
Okay.
With any other jurisdiction in The UnitedStates and they recognize each other's permits,
hey.
Great.
You know, that's how states do it right now.
Florida law is they'll recognize anyone'spermit from outside of Florida.
You have other states that, you know, they onlyaccept their an outside permit if they accept

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their home state permit vice versa.
Mhmm.
So we're pushing multiple angles.
Now look.
For me, it it screwed up that as a former cop,I could carry in Puerto Rico under the law
enforcement officer safety act, but my wife whois Boricua, who born and raised in Puerto Rico,
can't carry when she visits family.
So, you know, that's one of the reasons whywe're pushing it.

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Yeah.
And the simple fact that, look.
Puerto Rico is 3,000,000 Americans livingthere.
On top of that, how many people go back andforth from the Mainland to PR to visit family
and the same thing with the Virgin Islands.
You know, a lot of people go to the VirginIslands in Puerto Rico for vacation at the
height of winter when everyone's freezing todeath.
They wanna go to a nice warm tropical place.

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Mhmm.
And so we're we're pushing this.
We are fully on board with full reciprocity forthe entirety of The United States.
That means all 50 states, all territories, andDC.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong here.
Seems like there is some progress that'shappened in Puerto Rico, but we just didn't go

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all the way yet.
Yeah.
Port Puerto Rico went from being draconian likeNew York City to basically what some of the
Southern states were in the mid to latenineties.
Okay.
So they're they're they're they're stillbehind.
Mhmm.
But I can tell you this, the fact that nowthey're Shell issue, there has been an

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explosion in permits.
People are applying left and right and thebiggest number of permit applicants are women
between the ages of 21 to 45, basically.
Young, hardworking, hardworking aged, businessowning women.
Mhmm.
You know, these are people that do a lot ofcash business.

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They're in the beauty industry.
They're beauticians.
They're manicures.
They're hairstylists.
All of that.
Yeah.
They're potentially at risk.
Right?
I mean, Puerto Rico is not Puerto Rico is notsuper safe.
You know?
It's not we're not talking Hong Kong when we'retalking about Puerto Rico where, you know, you
can just leave stuff around and no one willtake it.
Port look.
I I go to Puerto Rico often and I can tell youthis.

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Puerto Rico is like any other part of The US.
You got the good and the bad.
You go to the part you go to Downtown Metro SanJuan.
Yeah.
It's kinda it's kinda dingy.
It's kinda scummy.
Mhmm.
You go down to the Southwest end to, like,Kawaroo, dude, it's paradise.
Mean, it it's beautiful.
It's nice.
You can walk down the streets.
It all depends on where you go.

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Hey.
It's the same, like, even here in Florida, youknow.
Mhmm.
Remember how Downtown Miami was twenty fiveyears ago compared to now due to
gentrification.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
That's true.
Listen.
I I think we're going in in a good directionwith with that.
So, I mean, it's not it's not perfect, but Iwould love to be able to, you know, visit

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Puerto Rico like Night Train is saying and andand actually, you know, check check my firearm
on the flight and and do that.
You know?
So that's cool.
I like it.
I like that.
Our end goal is we're looking to host an eventdown in PR, a GOA sponsored event.
We're we're gonna get down and active inlobbying down there just as we are here on the

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Mainland, and it comes down to a very simplething.
We're all Americans.
It doesn't matter what part of America you'rein.
You all have the same we all have the samerights, so we're all gonna fight for it.
Yeah.
No more, no less.
Absolutely.
And, listen.
My personal opinion is Second Amendment as wellas other rights should be for the whole world.
Yeah.
So, you know, every everyone should be able todo that.

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Alright.
So listen here.
Let me just do a couple of things.
I before we before we get real deep into thishere, I wanna show off, let's see here.
Hold on one second.
I wonder if I just messed up something.
Okay.
No.
Alright.
So, I'm just trying to make sure I don't,accidentally delete anything.
Boom.
Check it out.

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Here's our AI logo for the day.
There you go.
You guys could take a look at that.
We usually do the eagle, that's for Walter.
Walter got a double eagle today.
So, you know, we're we're we're still in forWalter.
And and then we usually do a dog that'sbasically symbolizes baby face pee, and and

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then the skull is me.
But you'll notice there's two dogs in here.
Look at that.
You know why?
Because I personally and I don't know.
I don't this is, you know, I'm not trying toI'm not trying to make you mad here, Louis, but
I see you as like a pit bull, man.
I personally I personally see you as like a pitbull that we have in Tallahassee working with

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GOA, doing a lot of different stuff.
You're not just in Tallahassee, but fightingfor second amendment rights here, and that's
why I personally enjoy having you on.
And then this whole thing going on with withFlorida where I don't know if anyone else here
in Florida has noticed it, but there is kind ofa civil war going on.
DeSantis, since the election, has gotten moremagga, and is trying to push what I think is

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some cool stuff, but the, how can I put ithere?
The yeah.
The Republicans that basically run Floridaaren't letting any of this happen.
Do you wanna give us a primer on that?
Bring us up to speed, Louis.
And then Patrick, know has got a bunch ofquestions and stuff, so probably the folks too
will jump into that.

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So this last election cycle, this pastNovember, you know, we had a new election
cycle.
And in Florida, we have off year elections forgovernor.
So DeSantis was voted into governor back in2022 for his final term.
So he's out basically January 2027.
So he's got two years left in office right now.

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But we have a new house speaker and a newsenate president in Florida.
And going back to November, the moment they gotsworn in, they basically said that they're
gonna try to lame duck DeSantis.
The governor That that they they put thatagenda out on the table.
Mhmm.
They said they were gonna try to lame duck thegovernor.

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In January, the governor called the specialsession for immigration enforcement.
And he had a solid immigration enforcementbill.
It was basically saying, hey.
Look.
If you're an illegal and you're breaking thelaw, we're busting you.
We're getting we're turning you over to thefeds.
You're getting the heck out
of here.
Yeah.
It was mirroring what what what Trump the Trumpadministration is doing on a national level.

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Right?
And Pretty much.
It it was basically it was basically deputizingthe entire Florida political system and its law
enforcement apparatus to assist the federalgovernment and immigration enforcement.
Mhmm.
So DeSantis calls the special session.
Within thirty minutes of that special session,the they canceled the governor's special

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session when, originally, they said theyweren't even gonna do it.
They were saying, look.
In reality, what we need to do is we coulddiscuss immigration enforcement during the
regular session.
We don't need to do a special session.
Governor called their bluff, called it.
Thirty minutes into the special session, theycancel his.
They introduce their own immigration billcalled the Trump Act, which was nothing had to

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do with immigration.
Was literally an amnesty bill, basically.
It was a sanctuary.
Right.
The governor calls them out on it.
They override the governor's vetoes on thebudgets.
The governor vetoes their amnesty bill andsays, I want a real immigration bill.

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So another special section's called, theypassed what the governor wants, and there you
go.
But now going into the regular session andbetween then and now, the governor has called
out the legislature for their failure on thesecond amendment.
He's flat out said multiple times now.
We're the worst Republican state in thecountry.
We don't have open carry.

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We don't have red flag repeal.
You know, it's horrible that we have mandatorywaiting periods, mandatory waiting periods,
that we have an under 21 purchase ban, all ofthis.
Mhmm.
The stuff that came out of Park Parkland, Ithink.
Yep.
Yep.
All the post Parkland stuff and some of
it even before.
Mhmm.
The current attorney general flat out said he'snot gonna defend the under 21 purchase ban in

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this US Supreme Court.
The commissioner of agriculture who wrote theParkland bill, mind you, he even said that he
now favors open carry and repealing the under21 purchase ban.
Mhmm.
But the house speaker and the senate presidentare against open carry.
The senate president is against repealing redflag laws as is the house speaker.

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And the senate president, he is right now evenwaffling back and forth on if he's gonna allow
the under 21 purchase ban repeal legislation toadvance because we fought tooth and nail to get
it through the house.
Now it's the senate's turn and he'll just lastweek, literally was asked by the media, you
know, now that it passed the house, what areyou gonna do?

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And he goes, well, I haven't changed my mind.
I'm still going back and forth on it.
Yeah.
I'm just I'm just pulling up some of that.
If you guys look it up, here's a headline.
What's this?
Florida Phoenix.
Florida House again passes measure restoringthe rights of 18 year olds to purchase long
guns, and it goes into what's going on here.
For the third year in a row, the Florida Househas passed a bill, h b seven five nine, that

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will lower the age for individuals in Floridato purchase shotguns and rifles from 21 to
where it should be, at least 18.
Yep.
The final tally was 78 to 34, And it and itgoes into a whole thing here, but, basically,
it's talking about what's going on here withwith the with the Republicans that are in

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rebellion against DeSantis.
Right?
Yes.
Yeah.
They also they also have a a great quote fromme on that in that article.
Okay.
Let me see.
I'm trying to see where it's at.
What what does this stem from?
Why are they so anti DeSantis?
Well, part of it comes down to the simple issueof politics.
DeSantis is he's done as a governor.

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They rode the governor's coattails because theybelieved if he could have gotten into the White
House Mhmm.
He could've appointed them to ambassadorialslots or running an agency head and all that.
And now that that didn't happen, they're like,oh, okay.
We're done with you.
That that was part
of it.
The other part of it too is that you have toremember that DeSantis was not the Republican

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party's choice for governor.
He completely upset the apple cart back in2018.
They wanted Adam Putnam, the previouscommissioner of agriculture, to be governor.
DeSantis originally was gonna run for MarcoRubio's seat in the senate.
Okay.
Because remember,
he said Rubio was gonna run for the WhiteHouse.

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Rubio originally said, I'm not gonna run for myseat in the senate.
DeSantis was gonna run for the then at lastminute, Rubio says, no.
I'm gonna just keep my seat in the senate.
So that put the whole kibosh.
So DeSantis decides to run for governor.
Mhmm.
Upset the apple cart, and he's been upsettingthe apple cart since then.
The the Republican establishment doesn't likeDeSantis because DeSantis wants to do three

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things.
He wants to shrink the scope and scale ofgovernment.
He wants to expand civil liberties.
And most importantly, he wants to remove theissues that the legislature constantly
campaigns on.
If if gun rights, if property taxes, ifimmigration if all of that was resolved, what
do all these lawmakers have to campaign on andkeep winning off?

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Yeah.
I agree.
I agree.
They have to have they have to have issues.
Let me just bring this up real quick.
I see we have John Crump, real John Crump inthe chat.
Shout out to him.
He says, who is that bald guy in the middle?
He looks like a crazy Florida guy.
So shout out to him, out there, basicallytrolling us.

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And, let me just pull up your quote here realquick, Patrick.
Let me know.
Let's see.
So meanwhile, Guns, Let's see.
Where where was that quote?
I just had it.
Scroll scroll up.
You just Scroll up.
I just went
past it.
I just went past it.
Okay.
Go up a little bit more.
A A little bit more.

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Here we go.
Luis the state yeah.
Let me get this thing out of the way.
Okay.
Luis Valdez, the state director for gun ownersof America, praised the vote in a statement,
noted how former senate president KathleenPasidomo killed the legislation in the past two
years and say now all eyes are on the senatepresident, Albertan.
Okay?

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And is this your quote here?
Yep.
That's my quote.
Ben Albertan faces a choice, he said, championthe will of the people and restore second
amendment rights or follow in Pasadimosfootsteps and betray gun owners across Florida.
So there you go.
That's that's the quote.
Yeah.
Patrick, did you did you have something youwanted to add here before I I don't know.

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He looked like he was eating.
Oh, there
you go.
No.
No.
I'm I'm I'm nothing in in particular.
I I was just curious about the back, like, whyso it's all it all comes down to politics and
them being just useless.
And they're rhinos.
I mean, you and I know that.
That's what drives me crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
I've had
I had a so we've had been pushing, of course,know, open carry and a lot of other pro gun

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issues.
Mhmm.
I had a lawmaker tell me, oh, I would push opencarry in a way that makes DeSantis look bad.
Mhmm.
And I was confused.
I was like, are you kidding me?
How are you gonna make the governor look bad?
He's the guy literally for two years in a rownow saying, I want open chair on my desk, and

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he's the guy that has to sign it into law.
How are you gonna make him look bad?
And these are Republicans telling me this.
I don't understand this.
Like, I do, but I don't at the same time.
It's because they're they're they're they'relifers.
They wanna stay in politics.
They don't wanna do something and get out, I'mguessing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, at this point, I think that, youknow, obviously, I agree with everything you

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said vis a vis, you know, DeSantis trying torun for president.
It didn't really work out.
A whole bunch of things going on there.
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Yeah.
So, I think he's done a good job here and yeah.
It's so weird to look at all the differentthings he's trying to do.
Like, when it comes to the property tax thing,I saw you had a press conference earlier today,
and it's the same situation going on there.
Right?
These guys keep trying to kill the the propertytax stuff that DeSantis is pushing for for as

(25:03):
well.
Right?
Yeah.
So the governor flat out said, look.
It's wrong that if you own property, have topay rent to the government.
Let's abolish property taxes.
Mhmm.
And the house speaker instead decides to push asales tax cut that cut sales the base sales tax
from 6% to 5.25.
So it's a 75¢ tax.

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But here's the thing.
Mhmm.
No county in Florida is at a 6% sales tax.
No.
Every the the there's only one out of all 67counties, only one county is at, like, 6.75.
The rest are hovering between seven, seven anda half.
Our few are in eight because every county isallowed to raise the sales tax up to 2¢.

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So per per hun per hundred dollars.
So, of course, or not 2¢, but 2%.
So it comes out to 2% per hundred dot per per ahundred dollars.
But the biggest issue I
feel like this did nothing for us for livinghere.
This this does things for tourists coming in.
They don't have to spend too much money.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Because here's the thing.
The the majority of of expenses that Floridianhave, things like groceries, most of that's
already tax free.
So you're talk you know, I did the math.
I do on average, I go to BJ's every two weeksor so, gross grocery shopping for my family.
We spend about $200 give or take.

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Comes out to like $2.50 or something like thatin sales tax.
Yeah.
Shout out to BJ's.
I haven't seen a BJ since I lived in Jersey.
I would save $65 annually through that salestax cut Mhmm.
That the house speaker wants to do, DannyPerez.
But the governor this morning through his salesthrough if we did a property tax cut, I would

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save a thousand dollars a year.
Mhmm.
You know, I'm gonna put a thousand dollarsbecause it and like you said, the sales tax
benefits tourists.
It doesn't benefit Floridians.
And that's an issue.
You have an entire group within the legislaturethat all they care about are tourists.
They don't care about the people that actuallylive here.

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They don't care about their rights.
They don't care about their whether it'sproperty rights, fiscal integrity, gun rights,
anything.
They don't care.
They're killing it all.
To get the tourists that's a that's a reallygood point right there, Patrick.
I think and I and I know DeSantis wasmentioning the tourists, like and Canadians and
all that kind of stuff, especially, they'retrying to cater to those people, but nothing

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really for the people who actually live here.
This might be bad, but this I I my brain alsosays that this comes back to who makes the
money off of the tourists.
Big business, the folks that this this was thesame for when they were pushing the amnesty
bill.
Who was truly pushing that?
It was the people who would make the money offof having the illegals here picking fruits and

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stuff.
That's how I felt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hold on one second.
Let me do this.
Patrick, I don't know.
You might wanna center your camera a little bitmore because you're just a little bit off.
There you go.
Right there.
Boom.
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So, I think that I see real John Crump got oneand some other folks.

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I don't know who that is.
I don't know if that's someone here withRumble, but, yeah, it's pretty awesome to be
here on Rumble.
So I just wanna shout out.
If you guys have questions, let us know.
I'm gonna try to get to those.
Let's see.
Let me see what what's let me go on thetimeline here.

(28:44):
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And then also, I I see people remindingeveryone to hit those thumbs up, subscribe to
us, etcetera.
The thumbs ups will help us on Rumble, so we doappreciate that.
I guess it works a little bit, you know, theway that YouTube does.
Lola Strange said BJ's.
That was a long time ago.
Yeah.
Now we do Sam's Club or Costco if we're feelinglike traveling.

(29:09):
Let's see.
There was a question here.
Oh, Night Train says, to paraphrase masterYoda, strong is the state of Florida.
The rhino is strong in the state.
Yeah.
The full Florida.
They don't
I don't wanna be nasty, but it's like theydon't care about the average little guy.
The the you know?
They don't.
Yeah.
I would I would save so much money on my on mymortgage if we didn't have to pay the escrow

(29:33):
property tax like we do.
Yeah.
It's
it's it's absolutely insane.
Look, you know, my wife and I, we worked hard.
We own our we outright own our house.
Mhmm.
And it's insane that every year, we have to paybetween 4 to $5
Mhmm.
To the government
Yeah.
Just to live in the house that we own.

(29:53):
You know, that's wrong.
Just just like it's wrong that if I walk downthe street or you walk down the street and our
shirts ride up, we could get arrested becauseour gun match didn't show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, so especially since COVID.
Right?
A lot of, I think Florida was always edging upbefore COVID in terms of property values.
But then after COVID and we didn't really shutthe state down and all that kind of stuff,

(30:18):
we've got a lot of people moving out here.
House values are going up, and then, you know,you're getting caught in that situation where
the value of your home is going up.
And then depending on the town you're in, like,you know, some super super liberal towns like
Gainesville, for example, is a good excuse forplaces there to push up taxes and all that
kind.
And then, you know, if you're looking at PalmBeach and other places

(30:39):
Yeah.
In Florida, yeah, you know, that really issomething that will benefit people.
So do you feel like the people of Florida areaware of all of this going on, whether we're
talking about the second amendment, propertytaxes, etcetera.
Do you think people are aware this is going on?
Do you think maybe that's why they're gettingaway with it so far?

(31:00):
Well, I can tell you this.
For a very long time, the Republicanestablishment got away with it because for the
most part, there was no way to remove thecurtain and show what happens behind the
scenes.
But
Mhmm.
The governor this year especially, he he didn'tjust peel back the curtain.
He ripped it down.
Mhmm.
And when when the civil war started, I wrote anarticle for Firearm News and, basically, the

(31:24):
whole premise of it says, congratulations,Florida.
Now you guys are getting to experience what gunowners have experienced for over a decade with
Republicans betraying you.
And, you know, this was about the immigrationissue.
Mhmm.
And now in terms of immigration, property tax,fiscal integrity Mhmm.
The entire population of Florida, they're theyreally opened their eyes to see how screwed up

(31:48):
it is.
And they're real you know, there's a hugeestablishment operation here in Florida that
basically silenced all of us.
Mhmm.
And the dangerous part of all of this is if youlook at history, if you look at states like
California for instance, California was used tobe a Republican stronghold.
I mean, they elected Ronald Reagan as governor.

(32:08):
Yeah.
Same thing with Colorado, man.
There's bad stuff happening in Colorado too.
Yeah.
Part part of their fall and part of Colorado'sfall and Virginia and elsewhere Mhmm.
Was that the Republican party got complacent,got corrupt, stopped pushing the issues that
actually were what the people wanted, and theyonly cared about the donor base.

(32:32):
And in the end, they lost power because theaverage voter isn't wed to a political party.
They're wed to their freedoms and theirpocketbooks.
And when you have one party selling you outconstantly and the other party just says, hey.
Look.
I'm gonna promise you sunshine's unicorn fartsand kittens, they're gonna go to that.
Mhmm.
Mhmm.
Yeah.

(32:53):
So what can we, you know, what can we do here?
Oh, by the way, let me just get this in too.
Hotdog nine ninety is is is our peeps.
I think that's that's that is John and Dark.
That's what I hear.
So big thanks.
And shout out to everyone who's coming in.

(33:13):
Okay.
So what can we do about this?
I don't know if Patrick has any questions.
My big thing is what can we do?
Like, here in Florida, how do we stay aware ofit?
What can we actually do about this bullshitgoing on?
I want these things.
I want an 18 year old to be able to defendthemselves.
I want the property taxes to go down for people
who live there.
Always complain about this.

(33:33):
You are I was at my most vulnerable when I was18.
Mhmm.
I didn't have a ton of money to live in thegood side of town.
I lived in the shittiest part of town causethat's what I could afford.
Mhmm.
I was the most now, I got plenty of money.
We have a house and I'm easy easily defendingmyself.
But back then, I wasn't able to.
It's just not fair.
And there's there's so yeah.

(33:54):
They like, when remember when this happened,Patrick?
We we spoke to oh, man.
His name always goes out.
Perry.
Perry.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
Get started on that.
The word of Keith Perry.
I know who you're talking about.
Yes.
He's here he's here in Gainesville and, knowssome people that I know, that we knew then, but
I don't know those people anymore, but somepeople I know even now.

(34:16):
I run into him every now and then.
And he had this idea about that whole thinglike, well, you know, I can I can get something
for my daughter if she's I was like, dude,there's a whole bunch of people out here that
are not like your daughter?
There's, young men and women who don't havetheir parents to rely you know, to be able to
rely on to do those kinds of things.
Yeah.
I'll go I I I'll go even a step further.

(34:38):
What about all the the out of state collegekids that can't legally take possession of a
firearm because it has to go through aninterstate transfer to an FFL?
The firearm can't be released even if they haveparents that are pro gun.
Mhmm.
And like you said, what about what about allthe kids that what if they have parents that
are either anti gun or they just can't affordit?

(34:59):
Yeah.
It's insane.
Peak people who are 18, 19, 20 years old Ithink wait.
There was a military, there was a militaryexemption, right, that it was added to If
they're under orders and they have paperworksaying that, oh, this purchase is in regards to
Yeah.
I mean yeah.
And that's insane.
You're 18.

(35:19):
You can you can go die for your country.
As Patrick was saying, I was living on my ownat 18 years old on my own.
Yep.
Yeah.
In New York City, so I didn't have much of achance.
I'll be honest with you guys.
I didn't give a shit.
I believed in defending myself where I could.
You know, obviously, you have to try to stayout of jail in New York City.
But it's ridiculous in a place like Florida.

(35:41):
You could be 18, 19, 20 years old and youcannot go defend yourself on your own without
basically doing a straw purchase kind of thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It it's it's screwed up.
And the state's argument in court is even moreretarded Mhmm.
Because they're claiming that, oh, you know,adults under the age of 21 don't have the

(36:03):
mental faculties to possess and own a firearmsafely.
Mhmm.
Yet we let 19 year olds become cops in Floridaand enforce the very gun laws
that Mhmm.
They're that they're defending in courtclaiming, well, if you're under 20 one, you're
too stupid to do this.
But you're claiming someone at 19 is smartenough to be an armed agent of the state and be

(36:24):
entrusted with lethal force to enforce guncontrol.
Yeah.
You're either seem a bit hypocritical?
You're either an adult or you're not an adult.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
You're either an adult or you're not an adult.
If you're not an adult in the state of Floridaat 18, you're not an adult until you're 21 or
whatever it is, then they you you know, allthis stuff like being able to be prosecuted as

(36:49):
an adult and all that kind of stuff, having toserve women.
To marry, to purchase property,
all of that
should be done one and up then.
Yeah.
Should just all go out the window to thatnonsense if that's what they really believe.
You know?
Yeah.
Let's see.
I just wanna get this in from Shooting Gallery.
He says, I'm in the Sarasota area, and theaverage rent is above 2 k, and I'm in somewhat

(37:13):
okay area, but people here in early twentiescould not afford to live one in a bedroom.
Yeah.
No.
No.
It's gotten insane in Florida.
It's expensive.
Life is expensive.
Yeah.
It's gone really
insane.
Purchased purchased our home preconstructionfor 225,000.
Took a year to build.
When we moved into it, it was already valued at325,000.

(37:37):
Mhmm.
Our property taxes have skyrocketedastronomically every year.
Mhmm.
And, you know, one of the biggest issues is,look, I'll bring up my father.
Retired guy, fixed income.
He outright owns his own, but eventually, thoseproperty taxes are gonna get to a point where
he can't afford the property tax.
Yep.
Yeah.
And it's gonna price him out.
And you have Republicans in the legislaturepushing a sales tax instead of property tax

(38:01):
reductions when you literally have that goingon.
You have Floridians across the state beingpriced out of their own homes because they
can't afford the property tax because eitherthey're on a fixed income or they're working
class and they're trying to keep up with, youknow, their mortgage, their property tax, their
car insurance, their homeowners insurance,putting food on the table.

(38:22):
Yeah.
And they're they're coming down to the point ofthey're having to triage what they could pay.
Yeah.
All of which has gotten more expensive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what do we do?
That brings us back to what do we do aboutthat.
How can we stay aware?
How can we do something?
I feel like it's not this is not really bignews in the state of Florida, and people aren't

(38:44):
really aware of it.
The the the voting folks, the folks like usthat are pro, gun guys, pro second amendment
people aren't really keeping tabs with this.
How how do we do that?
Well, for your viewers that are right now inthe Panhandle and in Brevard County, there's
two special elections going on for the statehouse.
GOA has endorsed, Hayden Hudson up in, HouseDistrict 1 and Bob White in House District 32.

(39:11):
The primary election is tomorrow.
So if you're in those districts, go vote.
We need solid guys like both of them in thestate house.
But more importantly, when the regular electionseason comes along in 2026, remember, the
primary is gonna be in August.
The general election is gonna be in November.

(39:31):
We need to primary out a lot of incumbentRepublicans who are anti gun, anti freedom,
anti liberty, and we need to put in goodpeople.
So that comes down to three things.
You need to be politically active.
You need to vet the candidates that arerunning, whether they're an incumbent or
they're a primary challenger.
And third, you need to vote.

(39:52):
You can't just vote blindingly.
You can't walk into the poll and just go, oh,I'm gonna vote Timor.
Yay.
No.
You have to actually go in and see who are youvoting for.
What's their record?
Look.
I'll give you a great example.
David Smith out of Orlando, the guy's been inoffice forever.
He flat out said on camera, I'm againstconstitutional carry and open carry because it

(40:15):
affects tourists.
Mind you.
But this is where he this is where he reallywent with it.
It affects international tourists.
Now mind you, Florida has a a state ownedcompany called Visit Florida.
Their entire thing is tracking the tourismindustry.
Their numbers are really shocking.
96% of all tourists who visit Florida areAmerican.

(40:39):
Only 4% are international, meaning Canadians,Europeans, people from the Caribbean, Latin
America, things like that.
Mhmm.
96% of the people who visit Florida areAmerican.
And last I checked, 45 states have open carry.
So if open carry was such a thing that wouldscare Americans away, they wouldn't have it in

(40:59):
their own home states.
But but David Smith, a republican, only caresabout 4% of international tourists and, you
know, literally throws them Floridian secondamendment rights in the ash heap for them.
Yeah.
That's and that's nonsense, by the way.
I think that people around the country, asyou're saying, come to visit Florida because of

(41:22):
the freedom.
Yeah.
Because of the freedom.
We get a bad rap if you're looking at movies.
You know, you get that from the media, ingeneral, Florida, but people realize there's a
lot of freedom when they come here.
Right?
And they they appreciate that.
Also, it's just a really beautiful state.
But the but the ability to have that freedomhere is a big deal.
And a lot of the tourists and stuff like thatthat come here, I don't know the percentages

(41:47):
like you would, but even the people coming fromoverseas are coming here shooting guns and all
that kind of stuff.
So they're not, you know, they're not they'renot afraid or worried about guns that much.
In David Smith's district, there's a businesscalled Machine Gun America.
They're a rental range.
All they do is they rent machine guns.
I've spoken to the owners.

(42:07):
The majority of their clients are internationaltourists who come to visit Disney because
they're five minutes from Disney.
Right.
And literally, they go like, wait.
We could shoot a machine gun?
And they're like, yeah.
Come on in.
Pay, you know, like, forget the pack it is, butit's like $200 and you get, like, five guns
with one mag each and, you know, you could mag
dump it.
That's not bad.
But they're making money hands over fistbecause you have people from The United

(42:31):
Kingdom, from Europe, from Latin America, fromCanada that they come here and they go, man,
I'm in The US.
I wanna shoot a machine gun.
Mhmm.
They're not scared.
They're loving it.
But, oh, god forbid, you know, if if aFloridian is actually open carrying a handgun
and you saw this, oh, it it might scare oneguy, and we can't have that.

(42:52):
We can't have any Floridian actually, you know,exercising their rights like the rest of
America does.
I think the rest of
the issue.
Yeah.
I think the rest of the world realizes that oldsaying that an armed society is a polite
society.
So I'm not saying everywhere in in Florida isis awesome.
You know, like you were saying earlier, thereare some parts of Florida, lots of craziness

(43:12):
going on.
But for the most part, in Florida, you you youdon't know who you're dealing with.
That little old lady could be packing and knowsvery well how to use what she's packing.
Be packing.
Yes.
You know, so I think it it makes for a politesociety in in, in most cases.
I think in very liberal places is where youhave a lot of issues with that, you know, but,

(43:34):
for example, living out in the country, I Idon't really see that as much.
Even if you look at the, let's see.
We got like a minute here.
Even if you look at all these protests andstuff like that against Tesla that's happening
right now, you're not seeing a lot of thatcraziness happening in Florida, although there
are things.
But I think people would be insane to try tomess with someone in a Tesla here in Florida

(43:55):
thinking that you're dealing with, you know,someone like, because they're driving electric
car, they're not packing.
That's okay.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
You know, the fact that people think that, oh,urban areas are are are not pro gun.
It's ludicrous.
I mean, look.
Some of the biggest gun people I know live inurban areas too.

(44:16):
So it's just the arguments that they keepmaking are false and aren't right.
You know?
It's just it's been proven wrong across theboard.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
We got, like, about ten seconds here before, wehit the break.
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Alright.
We're back.
We'll get to guns.
If you guys wanna see some guns, we'll get tothat.
What I really do want to do right now iscontinue breaking this down with Lewis, and I
also just wanna share with you here is Lewis's,this is his ex account right here, at real f l

(45:29):
gun lobby, at real f l gun lobby, and you willsee a picture of Lewis all dressed up here.
That's that's where to go.
And then should we should we please please gofollow this, guys, and then help support him,
help build this up.
And then also, we should probably should I showthe GOA on let me get let me pull up the GOA

(45:53):
account in here.
I think it's just gun owners.
Right?
Yeah.
Here we go.
Yep.
Just gun owners.
Yeah.
Gun owners of America is also here.
That's another place for you guys.
You can go to the to the, gun owners of Americaweb site.
This thing is kinda weird.
Let me see.
I gotta pull it and hold it down.
There you go.
Gun Owners of America.
Right?
So, you can go there, get lots of informationas well.

(46:16):
Go there, support those guys, keep up withwhat's going on.
There's an email list you can get on.
Anything else that that I'm missing here,Louis, or things you wanna reinforce so far as
information?
Well, you know, for anyone that wants to joinGOA, it's real simple.
You just go to gunowners.org/ join.
It's $25 a year and every penny goes towardsthe fight as as Hank knows.

(46:40):
Look, we got lawsuits all over the country.
We got lawsuits in California, Illinois, NewYork, but not just there.
We also have lawsuits in Florida.
We have a lawsuit challenging the open carryand under 21 carry band.
We challenge things on the local level.
We have challenges in Pennsylvania.
We even have a challenge in Tennessee.

(47:01):
We fight tooth and nail.
I
don't
go around the state of Florida or the countryin a bespoke suit in a private jet.
I I go around in a simple polo with my name onit, our logo on it.
I drive a 2011 beat up a Hyundai Elantra thatis stripping, that has stripped paint and half
the window tinting is peeling off.

(47:22):
Damn you, Hyundai with your paint jobs.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Every every penny goes towards the fight and
Mhmm.
I'm telling you folks, it's just $25 a year andyou get up to the date information on what's
going on.
Local, county, state, and federal.
But more importantly, there's action alerts onhow to get involved, what lawmakers to

(47:44):
communicate to, how to target them, how to putpressure on them, how to get things done.
And I could give you some great examples.
Back when we were pushing for church care herein Florida, we had a democrat lawmaker.
I forget her name now, but she was on one ofthe committees in in the state legislature.
And she flat out said, I am voting in favor ofthis bill.

(48:08):
And then she pointed at me, basically saying,because your alerts, your people keep emailing
and calling my office.
Mhmm.
So it really mattered.
It really it really works, folks.
I know some people are gonna roll their eyesand gonna be like, oh, another email block.
Look.
I'm telling you.
Whenever we send out an alert and we're askingfor you to get involved, it's for a reason.

(48:30):
And the best way to think of it is every timeyou send an email, but more importantly, every
time you make a phone call that sends a strongmessage for you.
Think of it this way.
Email represents, like, you know, five, tenpeople.
Phone calls represent, a hundred people.
So you you really carry a lot of weight.
And even if you live outside of the state oroutside of that district

(48:52):
Mhmm.
You can't wait because look for Florida forinstance, Republicans keep claiming, oh, you
know, it's tourists.
It's it's gonna hurt tourists.
Fine.
You live in Wisconsin, call up the Floridahouse speaker and senate president and say, I'm
a tourist.
I'm only gonna spend my money there if you'repro gun, and then hang up.
Mhmm.
Yeah.

(49:13):
Night Train says he's, confirmed to attendtwenty twenty five goals.
So there you go.
And then Seabull is Sweet.
Yes.
And C.
Bolas says he may go to goals, and he joinedGOA.
Lola and I are lifetime members.
It's pretty easy to do that.

(49:34):
So let's get back to let let's get back to thisto to what's going on with the, you know, 18
year olds being restricted.
Where is it at right now?
So right now, it passed the house.
Okay.
It it we're now waiting for the senate for twoto do one of two things.
Either pick up senate bill nine forty, which isthe the senate version of the house bill Mhmm.

(50:00):
Or just bring in the house bill and push itthrough the committee.
The problem is
Okay.
The senate president is basically anti gun atthis point and that's the issue.
And the the senate president, right, is not ademocrat.
That's a republican.
He's a republican, but he's taken over amillion dollars in donations from democrats

(50:23):
like Morgan and Morgan.
Who is it?
Ben Albritton.
Ben okay.
That you that was mentioned in that article.
What the deal with that dude?
Where did he even come from?
Who is this guy?
I'm gonna look this guy up.
Hold on.
Good old boy from Central Florida, comes from afamily of citrus farmers.
He ain't he ain't a New Yorker.
You know?
The ever classic argument, oh, it's always thethe Yankees that moved to Florida that are in

(50:47):
fact He's a good old southern boy.
For folks that don't know Florida history, he'sa Florida crack
Those money the he's a he's a Florida cracker?
Yeah.
It's Is that what he said?
Why is he Yeah.
Why is he That doesn't make any sense.
This dude is a Florida crack and if peopledon't know, we're not we're not that's not a
Yeah.
Derogative.

(51:07):
Florida crackers are like Florida they're likea cowboy kinda
Yeah.
They're they're like fifth sixth generationFloridians because Florida cowboys used a
bullwhip to herd cows, hence the hence the nameFlorida crackers.
So he could trace his family to that.
Yeah.
These are hardcore people.
Out West, they're out West.

(51:27):
They would be called, like, pioneer families,basically.
Yeah.
They're in Florida.
They you call them Florida crackers.
Yeah.
And they were
pretty awesome.
I mean, they did everything on their own.
Go ahead, Patrick.
For anybody listening that's not a Floridian,we have cracker country that you can go to
where they Yeah.
They have all of the lifestyle stuff from backthen.
You can see how it was done.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
I've been there.
It's fantastic.
I love it.
It's got It's

(51:48):
it's got the state fair in Tampa.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Been there.
Yeah.
It's awesome.
You see them, like, they make guns like theydid back in the days, black powder, you
know, they're blacksmiths making guns.
Mhmm.
All that stuff.
They make all their own stuff.
So, wow.
That's crazy to to to think that's going on.
So this Ben Allbritton guy, man, we gotta wegotta somehow, you know, communicate with this

(52:14):
guy that he's going in the wrong path.
You know?
I guess The problem the problem is in theFlorida legislature, they select the leadership
four years in advance.
So right now, they have already selected who'sgoing to be the house speaker and the senate
president for the next four years, for the nextfour cycles, two year cycles after this.

(52:37):
Mhmm.
And this is a screwed up thing.
Mhmm.
Paul Britton was selected four years ago.
Even though he didn't win election yet, there'sthat
that's how
Wait.
He was yeah.
So was he already in the in the house?
What is it?
He was he was already in the house.
Senate.
And he was and in the senate.
He he did a full he did a full eight years inthe house, and now he's doing his eight years

(53:03):
in the senate.
But here's the screwed up thing.
So, like, for the house speaker, they'reelected every two years.
He the the house speaker is already the guythat's gonna replace Daniel Perez in 2026, his
name is Sam Garrison.
Mhmm.
He hasn't even won reelection yet.
They already have him picked.

(53:25):
Wow.
Because they're not sure he's gonna winbecause, you know, it's a political Mhmm.
It's it's I hate to say it.
It's almost Good old boy.
Good old boy.
Yeah.
Good old boy network.
Boy network.
Yeah.
So Mhmm.
Go ahead.
The problem with Albritton is the and all ofthe leadership is they're always picked at the

(53:46):
end of their term limits.
He is answerable to no one.
So he doesn't care what the constituency says.
He doesn't care what he campaigned on becauseat this point, he's term limited.
He's answerable to no one, and that is thedanger of term limits.
Limits.
And that's what happens.
You have this cycle year in, year out whereevery legislative leader is term limited, and

(54:11):
they're just carrying on this this inertia ofthis corrupt political machine instead of doing
what the people want.
So it's interesting.
You're so generally, we think term limits aregood, you're saying in this case, they're not?
Yeah.
In this case, this is the downside of termlimits is you have lawmakers who are answerable
to no one, and they do whatever the heck theywant, and they betray their their constituency.

(54:33):
Now, luckily, the governor is doing the exactopposite.
He's he's term limited, but he's doing he'sfighting tooth and nail for the people.
Yeah.
I think the governor is reading the tea leaves,and he realizes that, MAGA is the way to go
forward in America.
Even the young people are MAGA.
Are in are onto it.

(54:54):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you know and I'm not trying to knock himwith that.
I mean, people need to realize that.
Yeah.
Look.
It it it comes down to this.
If if anyone is a is a student of politicalhistory, remember, Ronald Reagan ran tried
running for president in 1976.
He he didn't win the nomination.
Gerald r Ford did.

(55:14):
And Reagan's speech at the Republican NationalConvention in '76, he was supportive of Ford.
He said, hey.
Look.
I didn't win.
It is what it is.
I'm backing Ford all the way.
And he gave a hell of a speech that basicallylaid the groundwork for him to run-in 1980.
I think DeSantis is basically doing the samething.
He tried to run-in 2024.

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He didn't win.
He backed Trump.
He said, hey.
I'm I'm fully on board with Trump.
It is what it is.
And now he's showing the American people what atrue leader is compared to the other crowded
field.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
This is it's it's kinda distressing to see thatthis is going on.

(55:57):
What's the way what is the way to deal withthis?
What is the way through this?
What do we have a chance?
The the way for and the way to deal with thisis we need to be loud.
We need to be proud.
We need to challenge our lawmakers.
Our lawmakers have been used for to thirtyyears where they're not publicly challenged on
anything.

(56:17):
You know, when they do their town hall eventshere in Florida, usually, it's a piss the ring
type event.
They go, everyone says, oh, thanks for being mymy leader.
You're awesome.
Great.
You know, pat on the back.
Awesome.
Claps.
And they leave.
Mhmm.
No.
Now, with GOA involved here in Florida andother like minded organizations like the

(56:40):
Republican Liberty Caucus who Bob White's apart of, you know, they're they're a
multifaceted org, so they challenge a coupleother things.
And the Republican National Hispanic Assemblyand elsewhere, we're all challenging these
lawmakers publicly saying, look.
You guys can't in on this stuff.
It's put up or shut up time.
Just for an example, North Carolina, they'readvancing constitutional carry, real

(57:02):
constitutional carry, which is 18 and up couldcarry without a permit openly or concealed, but
not Florida.
Florida can't do that.
So I think Patrick and I will have talked aboutthis.
How can we primary these guys or I don't know.
Can we?
Yeah.
Can we?
Yeah.

(57:22):
Good question.
Well, a great thing is right now, you guys needto start scouting and looking for potential
candidates to primary these candidates.
Mhmm.
I'm trying to remember his name.
Hold on.
I had a business card here.
Yeah.
I'm trying to I mean, how would we go aboutthat?

(57:44):
Oh, I can't even put him forward.
I have to put on my reading glasses.
Hold on.
Oh, okay.
Getting in.
Yeah.
What were you saying, Patrick?
I I said it's it's about finding goodcandidates and putting them forward, I guess.
Yeah.
And is is GOA I think GOA is is still ratingthe, like, statewide candidates and stuff like

(58:07):
that.
Right?
Not just national.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We we endorse we rate state legislativecandidates, statewide races, and also a couple
of key city races too.
But look.
I'll I'll give you a great example.
You know, we haven't endorsed him yet, butMarshall Ralston, he's running for a state

(58:28):
house.
He's gonna run for the regular election in2026, but good guy.
I've spoken to him.
Like I said, we haven't endorsed him yet.
We're still vetting.
We we are very stingy with our endorsements,specifically because, one, we wanna make sure
we get the best candidate.
But in talking to someone like him, he'salready put himself out on the map saying,

(58:52):
look, I wanna run for office.
I wanna do this.
And he approached us.
And, you know, I asked him, where do you standon open carry?
Where do you stand on constitutional carry?
Where do you stand on all these two a issues?
And he's like, look, man.
I am a % in favor of repealing gun control andpushing freedom.
I said, awesome.
You know, as the year progresses, we're gonnabet you.
We're gonna see where you stand on this.

(59:15):
And depending on that is whether you earn anendorsement or not.
But it now is the time to start looking forgood candidates.
Not sixty months from now, not a year from now,but right now.
So how do we know what's good candidates?
Patrick, feel free to jump in here.
What's the things we need, Patrick, to figurethis out and then to get them all the way

(59:37):
across the line?
Seth, I I don't know any of that.
That's my problem.
I Yeah.
I don't know how any of that works.
I I feel like it's I feel like it's difficultto to you're either in their group or you're
not.
And if you're outside their group, it's hard toget somebody that's it's hard to get an
outsider in, into politics.
Yeah.
But we need that though.

(59:58):
We don't need the inside guys because that'sthe problem that we're having here in Florida.
So how do we identify the outside guys?
Right?
How do we convince them to run?
How do we because it's gonna take money.
They can't go up against these guys withoutmoney.
So how do we get them money?
And then exposure is a big deal.
How do we get them, exposure as well?

(01:00:20):
Like, if you look at this, you know, theDemocrats right now are scrambling and trying
to reorganize to get their candidates toactually get on podcasts and things like that
because it made a massive difference on thenational level.
I don't know if that same kind of thing'shappening on a, like, state or local level.
It is.
It is.
So there there's a couple of things.

(01:00:40):
One, in your local areas, start attending yourlocal political organizations.
Attend your Republican Liberty Caucuses.
Go to your actual county level Republicanexecutive committee meetings.
Also, see some of the other organizations thatare in the area.
You know, like you have the Florida RepublicanAssembly, another great group of guy folks.

(01:01:04):
You have the Republican National HispanicAssembly.
See if they're having any local meetings.
All of these like minded organizations, they'reall politically active, and they're all
networking just like GLA is because we getinvolved in a lot of these organizations, and
we talk to a lot of these people.
And you have cross pollination.
So if you don't know who's a good potentialcandidate to vet, see what the buzz is right

(01:01:28):
now in the in your local level groups becausethey'll have their ear to the ground, and
they'll be hearing who are the potentialcandidates.
And on top of that, as these people startrising up through the ranks, ask them where
they stand on issues.
Go up to them in public spaces, you know,polite in a polite manner, but get them on

(01:01:49):
record, get them on camera, say, where do youstand on this?
Where do you stand on that?
And do that for all of the candidates, whetherthey're an incumbent, whether it's an open
race, whether they're a primary challenger, putthem on the record.
Mhmm.
And, Hank, this is where you come in.
You know?
The political sphere has completely changedwithin the last twenty years.

(01:02:11):
I I've been politically involved since myteenage years.
So I remember, you know, the the key things toget involved politically was you had to do the
Sunday morning talk shows, and you had to geton the local TV news stations, and you had to
get in print news reports, magazines.
That's all God.
I mean, that's still there, but that's prettymuch on the way out.

(01:02:36):
As we saw this last election cycle especially,alternative media, podcasts, a lot of that has
to do with it.
The use of social media itself.
Every candidate that wants to run for officehas to be their own podcast, their own social
media influencer, and their own brand.

(01:02:57):
That's what it's coming down to.
It's not just that you could be a face in thename and the political machine will carry you.
You have to be
your own brand and that involves anythingpolitically now.
You wanna be an advocate, you have to be abrand.
You wanna be a a two way freedom fighter, youhave to be a social media influencer.

(01:03:18):
Mhmm.
And I'm you know, one of the best things that Idid recently was I attended you know who Diana
Mueller is.
Right?
Yeah.
That name sounds familiar to me.
Yes.
She she runs Women's for Gun Rights.
Yes.
Okay.
We've had her on the podcast.
Yes.
Well, she puts on a class called the ambassadoracademy.
She did it at at WAFT just Northwest ofOrlando.

(01:03:42):
It was a five day course and the entire classwas literally about all, you know, everything
you guys are asking especially on the on thesocial media side of it.
And some of the information was really awesomebecause I I scribble you know, I took copious
amounts of notes.
But basically, what she said is, look, the mostpolitically active generation right now, it's

(01:04:06):
not baby boomers, it's not gen xers, it's notmillennials, it's gen zers.
Because you're talking about a demographic thatgrew up in a digital environment Mhmm.
That their entire childhood has been one ofeither political confrontation or economic
conflict.
You know, they grew up during the great theywere born into and grew up in the great

(01:04:28):
recession, the twenty twenty six election, thetwenty twenty election, the pandemic, all of
that.
Mhmm.
But being that they're a digital generation,they know how to navigate Internet.
They know how to navigate social media.
They know how to navigate alternative sourcesof media.
They're not watching NBC Nightly News or CNN.

(01:04:48):
They're watching you.
Yeah.
You have to meet them where they are.
Yeah.
I agree.
And we're doing that too.
But the most interesting thing is
Got Ten seconds.
Ten seconds.
Go ahead.
Mhmm.
They're politically active and they're mostlyconservative.
That's that's good to hear.
That's good to hear.
Alright.
Listen.
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Yeah.
This is a this is a tough thing to to dealwith.

(01:05:52):
Right?
The politicians we have out there right now,for the most part, are just thinking about
climbing the political career ladder.
Yep.
You know, if they're congressmen, they'rethinking about becoming a senator.
If they're a senator, they're thinking aboutbecoming president.
You know, if they're in the state house orwhatever, they're thinking, oh, am I gonna get

(01:06:15):
into congress and all that?
And that that's why we have this issue, andthese aren't people who really believe what
they're putting out there.
Right?
That's why we're calling them Republicans inname only.
Now when you have the regular folks like us outthere, we're all we're always reluctant to jump
into the political game.

(01:06:36):
I I don't know that I want to.
That's part of the problem.
Yeah.
Now everyone has everyone has a part to play.
Go ahead, Lewis.
Mhmm.
Here's the thing.
You don't have you yourself don't have to runfor office because our national motto says it
bless.
Says it best.
Each purpose, unamount of many one, together,if we unify and we become a loud unified voice,

(01:06:57):
we're able to drown out the establishmentrhinos in the legislature.
Look.
We have a republican super majority.
In reality, it's a super majority in name only.
It's as if the
democrats have power here.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
So Yeah.
We need to unify it as a voice and we need tocrack down on all of this.
You know, you were asking Patrick, you wereasking, well, what else can
I do?
If you go
to your republican executive committee meeting,that's your county level republican party, and

(01:07:20):
you start raising a a stink, guess what?
It's gonna get hurt because even the the thestate chairman of the party, Evan Power, he
welcomed with open arms representative ofHillary Castle and Susan Valdez.
They were two Democrats who abandoned theDemocratic party just this past election cycle.

(01:07:44):
This past November, they fled the theDemocrats.
They became registered Republicans.
Power had the nerve on social media to say, oh,I've known Hillary forever.
She's great.
She's gonna be an awesome thing to the GOP,yada yada yada.
Mhmm.
The first thing I did was I told them on socialmedia, bro, she's campaign being anti gun.
She's gonna vote against every gun bill.

(01:08:05):
And guess what?
She voted against every gun bill that she'sbeen able to vote against.
She voted against the under 21 purchase banrepeal.
Mhmm.
And, you know, his his response was, well, it'sbetter that we have 80% supporting it than a %.
I'm like, no.
We have a super majority.
What the hell is the point of having a supermajority if we're not doing super majority
things?

(01:08:25):
When the Democrats have power, they actuallypush through what they want.
What's the problem here in Florida with thisRepublican super majority?
Yeah.
And if you go to your REC meetings and raise astake, trust me, it'll start going up because
you could plant that seed at your local REC,and other people will start going, you know,
this Patrick guy, he's right.

(01:08:46):
What the hell is going on?
Yeah.
It's they're they're no one's taking a look atthem.
They need the sunshine.
They need the light shined on them for them topay attention, and then we we just really need
to identify good people that wanna do this,folks who aren't just doing it for the money,
who really believe this.
I think I believe those people are out there.
Sometimes they're already doing things.

(01:09:08):
Listen, I you know, when I talk about go ahead.
Mhmm.
The thing for me are the people in my lifeexperience, the people who seek power, are out
there looking to to get power, are the ones whoshould never be elected to an office.
That's how I always feel.
Like, they're usually the worst.

(01:09:30):
The ones that are out there desperately lookingfor power Mhmm.
Are usually the worst ones to have it.
Listen.
It's always, I agree with you, it's always adouble edged sword.
Look, the same thing goes for when people say,influencer.
Ugh.
You know, I've been doing this, I think, since,like, 2012, '20 '13, and influencer sounds like

(01:09:54):
a bad word to me.
Right?
But it's what I am.
Now, it's it's just like for every man isresponsible for his own honor, When it comes to
being someone that's a content creator like Iam, I'm responsible for my own honor.
I'm the one who has to make sure that I reallybelieve in these things even if I'm getting
money for it or this or that's happening.
Right?

(01:10:14):
I'm the person who has to carry that.
So, we can find people like that out there.
There are people like that out there.
That's, you know, why this whole thing hasn'tburned down and we're not Europe yet.
There are good people out there.
We need to identify them.
Sometimes they're on the bottom of things, youknow, like, in my mind when we were talking
about this, I think about, my sheriff.

(01:10:35):
Right?
Really good guy.
I know he believes in the second amendment.
Lots of sheriffs around Florida do.
It's tough enough though for them to staysheriff, and then you have to think if they
move from being sheriff to something else, whocomes in there?
Because that's what directly affects you.
Where I live here, that's the the most directthing that's gonna affect me, who my sheriff
is.
Right?
And my relationship with him.

(01:10:56):
And that's why I tell people it's veryimportant to vote, on the local things.
If you're mad about what's going on politics,don't you know, that's fine.
So you bring up you bring up a great thing.
A lot most people are worried about whathappens in DC when in reality, the interactions
of government that they deal with nine out of10 times is either local or state.

(01:11:16):
Mhmm.
You can go to most people, who's the president?
Donald Trump.
You can ask him, who's the governor?
Mhmm.
I I don't know.
Who's your state rep?
Yeah.
I'm
the state
rep.
Yep.
And you're right.
Yeah.
Everything is local.
Yes.
I agree.
And and that might be a place where we can findsome of these people.

(01:11:37):
There are people out there.
We've got to find them, and then we have tohelp them, in order to do this.
And, yes, you're trusting that person's honorthat they're doing it for the right reasons.
You know, we've all been burned before by lotsof, different people.
And as Lewis was just saying, there's folksjumping from being Democrats to being
Republicans just to jockey their way up theladder here.

(01:11:59):
Yep.
Yeah.
Always happen in Florida.
Oh, it's always happen around the country forthat matter.
Okay.
So Lola sent me this.
Let me go over to this.
I don't know if we've got any questions orcomments.
The truth about guns has this TV ad by secondamendment Foundation rallies opposition to gun
grabbers.
I don't know if any of you have seen this.

(01:12:19):
The Second Amendment Foundation, one leader inthe battle to protect the right to keep and
bear arms has launched a new nationaltelevision commercial aimed at rallying America
behind president Trump's pro second amendmentagenda.
So and there's a press release and all thatkind of stuff.
Obviously, Lois, you're from I don't know ifyou've seen this, and I'm just reading through
it right now.

(01:12:41):
What is this g o
I'm trying to say on everything, but, you know,the fact that we have, special elections going
on tomorrow both for congress and state house,I've been really busy with that
Yeah.
The last couple of days.
Yeah.
But we're gonna start to see some of thisstuff, I feel like.
And I know GOA is doing something to to, help.

(01:13:03):
I I don't know how to put this.
How should I put this, Patrick?
Encourage?
Nudge?
Encourage.
The administration.
Encourage is a good
But I I could tell you this.
Our federal affairs guys, they're they're intalks with the White House.
There's a lot of communication going back andforth.
Mhmm.
Our our federal affairs guys asked me aquestion of they yeah.

(01:13:30):
All tongue tied here.
They wanted to know specifically what lawenforcement does on the federal level when it
comes to the surplusing of firearms.
And I said, oh, it all goes to Captain Crunch.
And they're like, wait.
What?
The feds don't like, no.
The feds haven't surplus police guns and Anyforever.
The last the last batch of FBI guns to ever hitthe market as a surplus piece was Smith and

(01:13:53):
Wesson model 13 revolvers, and that was veryfew of them.
And a couple of ten seventy sixes because theywere sent back to Smith and Wesson for repair,
and then they
were weapons on the market.
Mhmm.
There it it is it is so rare nowadays to see aFBI gun that they they fetch big dollars
because Yeah.
You just don't see it.

(01:14:14):
Mhmm.
But that was, like, one of the things that, youknow and someone might be saying, well, why is
that a thing being discussed?
Well, I'll give you a real simple thing.
Doge, if the federal government is looking onways to save money, we're going to the federal
government saying, hey.
You wanna save money?
Instead of destroying all of this stuff.
Tell them.
I've always Sell

(01:14:34):
it as surplus to the taxpayers.
I've always made this argument.
We've already paid for it once and we're butwe're we're stupid enough to pay for it again
because I know I am.
Do you know
what that
quote is?
I looked at there was a a guy the other daythat brought in a Florida Highway Patrol Colt
Python.
It was super super cool.
Stuff like that.

(01:14:55):
I know.
How cool is that?
Wow.
And Yeah.
Did you see did you see did
you see Lewis clutch his heart just now?
Yes.
It's beautiful.
There Did you
I know
what it is because it's it's five inch.
It's nickel finished off.
There.
Freaking cool.
Yeah.
People like dating.
Stuff
like that.
We're I think, Lewis, were you were you highwaypatrol?
I know you've you've done a few things in lawenforcement before you retired.

(01:15:16):
Right?
No.
Never worked for the Big Orange.
Okay.
Was a pretty cop.
I worked for the state doing plain clothesinvestigations.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
It the the the old highway patrol pythons arethey're fetching big dollars now because that
stuff doesn't exist.
But seeing FBI guns now, super rare.
It's really rare to see one.

(01:15:37):
Mhmm.
Yeah.
So that, you know, that's the one I've saidthis so much that we would totally eat those
things up.
And then that money goes right back into moreprocurement if you need it.
It saves tax dollars.
But that that's not, of course, the only thing.
You look.
We're discussing legislation.
We're discussing what, you know, what Pam Bondiis now doing going after the LA sheriff's

(01:15:59):
department and elsewhere.
We've discussed that with the White House.
We've discussed a lot of things with the WhiteHouse and saying, look.
Here's a list of things that could be done fromtop to bottom in terms of importance and way to
do it.
Let's knock this out.
So there's a I I could say this between thefirst Trump administration and now

(01:16:21):
It's different.
Even Trump has learned that gun owners have twothings.
They have a long memory, and they're veryvindictive when they're turned when they're
stabbed in
the back.
I when they were talking about bringing Bondiin, I was like, this is y'all have no idea what
you're getting into.

(01:16:41):
She's been Oh, I know.
Trust me.
I as a Floridian was you have y'all arechampioning this woman, and you have no idea
what she helped do to us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm I'm glad that, you brought up, Pam bomb PamBondi because I know we
It's funny because we're all Floridians here.
So Absolutely.
And we got this remember her.

(01:17:01):
Yes.
And we got this question earlier from someoneout there.
I don't remember exactly who.
But, what's your thoughts on Pam Bondi sincewe're on the subject?
My thoughts on Pam Bondi, she's not to betrusted.
She has shown what she has done as the Floridaattorney general.
She fully defended the open carry ban in thestate supreme court.

(01:17:24):
She is the reason why George Zimmerman wastried after it was originally shown to be a
self defense incident under court standingground.
So excited about her red flag law that she wasworking on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She pushed red flag law.
She's champion that she had a part in craftingthe under 21 purchase ban here in Florida.

(01:17:46):
Yes.
So the the reason why right now she's doing progun things is because the Trump administration
Trump himself is basically telling her, don'tyou screw this up for me or I'm throwing you
out.
Yeah.
Because Trump learned, you know, that gunowners are not to be trifled with.
We are a political force not to be reckonedwith.
And he even addressed us at, at goals lastyear.

(01:18:10):
He said, hey, you you guys actually go to bat.
Mhmm.
The one thing Trump hasn't learned though isthat he still likes to have a whole bunch of
hot chicks around him.
I'm not complaining about it.
As a dude, I I would crazy.
Watching so being go going back to the Bondithing, if you watch her on camera, she's not

(01:18:32):
that good to me.
Like, I don't feel like she's that good infront of cameras.
She's
No.
I agree.
She I agree.
I never I understood this
I yeah.
I'm I'm I'm
trying to be mean or judgmental to her, but
I think people I think people think
she I never understood why people suddenly fellhead over heels for Bondi.

(01:18:54):
Mean I don't get it.
I think people
who Growing in Miami growing up in Miami, Bondiis like a South Beach too.
So
No.
It's it's not I But that's not the thing that'sgoing on here though.
The thing I think that's going on is she'sfemale, you know, and and I think that people

(01:19:14):
are just looking to, you know, check checkcategories here.
So now I'm not knocking her for being female.
I think there's, like, fiercely pro secondamendment, very MAGA females out there.
You want a example.
You want a great example.
Our prior attorney general, Ashley Moody, whenwe filed our lawsuit challenging the open carry
ban, she flat out said, I'm not defending this.

(01:19:37):
This loss this open carry ban isunconstitutional.
I ain't touching this with a 10 foot pole.
She told the state attorney's office, goodluck, guys.
This the attorney general's office ain'tdefending this.
Yeah.
So Moody's was
Moody's seems much more clever than Bondi.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So and and I think I don't know.

(01:19:58):
I I have a feeling that Pam Bondi is slowwalking everything.
For whatever reason, she's in with Trump, andshe's the one that he called up to do this
particular thing.
And I feel like because because I think we weresupposed to get a Trump, You know, he did the
executive order for a second amendment report,and that was supposed to come in March 9, which
is come and gone.

(01:20:18):
I know because that was my birthday.
So, you know, that's come and gone.
Mhmm.
The the report you know, she missed thedeadline twice.
Mhmm.
But now she's starting to to to do good things.
And I think part of that comes down to Trumphas learned not to trifle with gun owners, and
he's pushing the issue.

(01:20:39):
And that's a great thing.
Mhmm.
I I I can tell you flat out.
I was critical of Trump for his two a mistakes.
You know, when he did the bump stock ban, whenhe pushed red
bushels on a national level furious.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
I was furious.
And, organizationally, we were furious because,look, we don't carry water for a politician or

(01:21:00):
a party.
Our entire stance is confrontational politics.
They do good, we spank them.
They do bad, we spank them.
If tomorrow, Barack Obama came out and said, Ifully support national reciprocity.
I want it passed.
It's about time that people could come toIllinois and carry a firearm.

(01:21:21):
We wouldn't be there going, well, screw you,Obama.
We'd be going,
oh my god.
Even Obama gets it.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
I'm 100% on board with that.
I promise to stop talking about Big Mike ifthat happens.
I'll never mention I'll I'll never mention thatagain.
No.
I agree with you.
That's really what matters here, and I think itreally it it it's really important.

(01:21:44):
I think it's easy to get distracted withthings, and I'm not I don't know.
There's very little that I that I have tocomplain about with what's going on with the
Trump administration right now.
There are some little things that really don'tmake sense, and I think some of it Like, right
now, lately, he's been talking about runningfor a third term or whatever.
I think it's really the media bringing up thethird term thing with with Trump, but he that

(01:22:08):
kind of, like, lights his fire.
You know what I mean?
He likes Yeah.
That kind of stuff, which you got you have toshut down That's the same thing with when he
said forget about due process.
Whenever I hear that whenever I
hear running for a third term, it's like, dude,
as far as as far
as I'm concerned, it's two terms.
I no.
I know it was a joke.

(01:22:28):
If you listen to the the clip, was a joke, butat at the same time, it's like, mm-mm.
Don't go playing with that fire.
It's unconstitutional, and we're not Give meone second.
Hold on.
Are you talking about the are
you talking about him running for a third term?
Or Yeah.
You're joking about the third term.
Yeah.
That kind of stuff just makes me get the heebiejeebies.
I'm like, you know?
And by the way, the media knows this, andthey're goading him on, and he's Instead of

(01:22:51):
going, look, I'm gonna do the best job I can doin this term, and there should be people coming
up behind me that you guys can can support thatwill keep moving this ball forward.
I get it, you know, he's a New Yorker, lots ofNew Yorkers, myself included, ego driven.
So like that idea, but that kind of stuffreminds me of what happened before, it it it

(01:23:13):
worries me a little bit.
Look, you know, the the the whole thing is he'sdoing a hell of a lot better right now than he
did the first go round.
I'm supportive of that.
We're supportive of it so far.
We like what we're seeing on a national level.
Mhmm.
Look.
He's been supporting national reciprocity.
He's putting pressure on the attorney generalto actually fight for our rights.

(01:23:35):
We have spoken forever that the DOJ's civilrights division should be investigating and
going after anti gun states.
Now that's actually happening.
You know, this is something that was alwayshypothetical.
Now we see it actually starting to happen.
This is fantastic.
And part of that is because GOA, its members,and folks like you have really raised the issue

(01:23:59):
within the last four years to say, what thehell is going on?
Mhmm.
Yeah.
We've we've I'm I'm happy with most of thestuff that's going on also.
We've just gotta keep pushing it because it'seasy for this stuff to get pushed to the
wayside.
That's really what always happens with thesecond amendment.
I think a lot of people realize we're a biggroup and we'll come out and vote for that, and

(01:24:23):
then maybe we don't pay attention to the otherthings, and the bigger group that's moving out
there I think we all care about immigration,things that he's dealing with.
I support what's going on with Doge, You know,we really have to redo a lot of the old ways of
doing things.
We've gotta get rid of that shit.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So I I fully support that.

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And the the symbol that it's actually workingand doing something is look at how, you know,
the liberals, democrats out there, look at howfired up they are about this.
When would you think if we if we were get in atime machine and go back ten years ago, would
you think that liberals would be out thereburning down electric cars?

(01:25:06):
If you ask
me I would not think that would ever happen.
Look.
I I'm gonna be brutal.
Thirty seconds.
Thirty seconds.
If you if we went back twenty years ago and youasked me where we would be today with the
second amendment on the advances that we havemade, I thought we would have been crazy.
I thought whoever asked would have been crazy.
I mean, look.

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Twenty years ago, it was just the assaultweapons ban just expired.
We didn't even have the second amendment ruledas an inalienable right to the supreme court.
And look where we are now.
Yes.
We're still fighting the fight, but we'retaking ground.
Yes.
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We are back.
Shout out to everyone out there who's stillhanging in with us right now.
We appreciate you guys.
Let me know if you have questions and comments.
We're we're we've got like around 30 people outthere with us right now.

(01:26:36):
Smash those thumbs ups.
We need all, yeah, all the thumbs ups that wecould possibly get.
Chris Bola says, I'll take up Hank's slackabout Big Mike.
Oh, boy.
You know what?
Because Lewis is here, I'm not gonna delve toodeep into any of that stuff.

(01:26:58):
We gotta keep we gotta keep Lewis on at GOA.
We do not wanna we do not wanna rock the boattoo much on on on any of that.
DCG forty four, shout out to him.
He says, if you're trying to defeat an anti,two a candidate, look for another subject they
voted on that you can use to take away votes.
Did they vote, to raise taxes?

(01:27:19):
Did they vote against, firing, what is that?
Oh, fixing potholes, etcetera.
Okay.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Don't don't just stay single issue, narrowfocus on that even though if that might that
might be your issue.
But look at the big picture.
Like, right now, what's going on here inFlorida, you know, you have the issue with
property taxes.

(01:27:40):
You have the issue with the immigration report.
Look at their voting record on that.
Look at how they've overridden the governor'son the budget.
Challenge them on that and say, you're fiscallyconservative and you did this?
I don't think people in Florida are aware ofthis.
I do not think people are aware.
Patrick, go.
It's infuriating.
It's infuriating when you're like, you're soclose to making actual big change in my life

(01:28:04):
for the better, and y'all can't get out of yourown way.
Yeah.
And Patrick is fit Patrick is feeling this one,man.
A homeowner.
He's a papa.
Seriously.
Patrick is ready for that cup.
And I and I get it.
I mean, it's a big deal.
Better, man.
Yeah.
I
get it.
Hey.
Hey.
You know, my wife and I, we got our daughter.
We you know?
Mhmm.

(01:28:24):
It is not easy to raise a family.
It's and they just keep going like, we're justgonna raise up your property tax and make your
life miserable.
It's Yep.
It's it's scary, especially, I think, like, youknow, if you bought a home, you got a good deal
on the home, now your area is blown up and butmaybe you wanna get out of that area, or you're

(01:28:45):
you're stuck there for whatever reasons, maybeyou're not stuck, but you wanna be there, but
the taxes have gone up along with it.
We used to live in Palm Beach, or West PalmBeach.
So, we used to be in that Palm Beach, West PalmBeach area, and everything is freaking insane
over there right now.
I'm glad I ran away to the country.
Let's do this.
Let's do this really quick.

(01:29:06):
Oh, actually, what was the thing I was gonnasay?
You know what?
I remember way back when when we got all theselaws that went into effect.
And for example, it's not just the age thing.
I think built into that is you can't modifytriggers, etcetera.
I Is that in this The buttstock, man.
Yeah.
Is that in this bill or this does this billcovering that or or is it just the h?

(01:29:28):
There there's a step there's
a separate bill in the house and the senate torepeal the bump stock ban in its entirety.
Separate It
has not moved at all.
I have in in my talks with the Republicanlegislature Mhmm.
They're telling me that they're willing to giveus and this is how they say it.
We're willing to give you
don't like

(01:29:48):
ban with you.
We don't we don't wanna tackle red flag lawsright now.
Don't wanna tackle the bump stock ban.
We don't wanna tackle open carry.
But we're willing to tackle this, and I'm justhere going like Yeah.
You don't work
You took two cojones for me.
For you.
You worked for us.
Yeah.
You took two cojones.
You'd be like, I'll give you one cojones back.
Yeah.
You don't seem to understand the fact that thisthese are rights that have been stolen from me.

(01:30:13):
Yeah.
I want them back.
Yeah.
Insane.
Let me see.
D c g 44 says, SCOTUS is important of co ofcourse, but don't forget lower courts as well.
That's true.
Now, before we get to that, I remember when allof that happened and we had those, like, you
can't modify firearms, etcetera, which is stilltechnically a law here.

(01:30:35):
I don't think they've prosecuted anyone behindthat yet, but it's on the books.
So I
remember said it's a felony.
Yes.
It's a felony.
And I remember going to SHOT Show and talkingto firearms manufacturers in the state of
Florida that had no clue about that.
Yeah.
And I was like, how can you get you you guysare manufacturing in the state of Florida and

(01:30:58):
you don't you Yeah.
You don't know these laws are going on.
And I think that's the big thing that we havegoing because, you know, like, we were talking
about this stage and everyone playing theirpart and okay, here's these people going and
then we're trying to like help get those peoplesome attention for what's going on, or even let
the folks know about what's happening inFlorida here when it comes to the second

(01:31:22):
amendment, but there's All of this needs Thethe the lifeline of all of this is money.
Right?
And we need the companies out there to be awareof that.
Like, you need to to fund the things that aregoing on.
I'm not talking about me necessarily, but we'renot gonna get this information out there if we
don't figure out a way to help this informationget out there and help the people who are

(01:31:45):
putting it out there.
And this is this if the manufacturers aren'taware of this stuff, they probably still don't
know about this.
There's people who are always surprised.
You bring up a great example and a example ofthat is we've all heard it.
The three step rule for carrying a firearm inthe vehicle.
Oh, it has to be three steps to get it.
That's how it's like no.

(01:32:05):
Florida law literally says if it's in a shoebox with a lid on it on the seat next to you,
it's securely encased.
Your glove box is securely encased.
Closed container.
Yeah.
Securely encased.
Backpack.
But you but still promote these frivolous mythslike this three step rule to carrying a
fireman.
You're real.

(01:32:26):
That's because, you I
still I'm an I'm
an NRA certified instructor.
I teach CCW courses.
You hear this all Yeah.
So much.
Well, you do this, this, and this.
It's like, no.
No.
No.
No.
You want me to show you where the Floridastatute is?
I will point it out.
You could read it for yourself.
That is not in there.
And and here's the screwed up thing.
Lawmakers are like that.

(01:32:46):
You'll believe it.
There was so one of the we one of the bills wespoke against is a carve out for cops for the
waiting period.
And it's not that, look, we're against copsskipping the waiting period.
It's that everyone should be able to skip thewaiting period.
Right.
That that's our stance.
It is Exactly.
It's very simple.
It's like, look.
I'm a former cop.
Would it have benefited me as a cop?

(01:33:07):
Yeah.
Great.
Am I against it?
Yeah.
Because it ain't fair that everyone else has tojump through that stupid hoop.
Yeah.
But what was funny is one of the Democratsraised the question to the bill sponsors like,
well, you know, doesn't this mean that theyhave to do a background check still?
Or do they skip the background check?
And the bill sponsor, no.

(01:33:30):
They they skipped the they skipped thebackground check.
I'm like, your own bill says they don't, youidiot.
It just says that they skipped the waitingperiod.
And you're the bill sponsor?
You're the one that supposedly wrote this pieceof legislation?
You don't know what it is?
That's how bad it is.
It's That's
not the issue in that's the issue in Floridalet in the Florida politics is that even the

(01:33:52):
people pushing legislation don't know itbecause leadership literally says, here you go,
file this or I make you look bad.
Yeah.
Yes.
There's a But there's a lot of that.
This is the thing about people not knowingabout certain things.
I saw this I was talking about this in the lasttwenty four hours, I think, Trump pardoned this

(01:34:13):
guy named Trevor Milton, who was basically theCEO of a company called Nikola.
That's like they made hydrogen electric poweredheavy duty vehicles like tractor trailers and
stuff like that.
But I remember now.
He was the guy that supposedly was gonna do aan all electric 18 wheeler and it turns out
that the video wasn't that it was just rollingdownhill and it never actually did anything and

(01:34:39):
it was a huge investor scam.
Yes.
Yes.
I remember.
So congratulations, Lewis.
You are a gun guy who's very busy.
You do a lot of stuff and you know that guybasically, you know what he did, and you know
that he They're invested who Investors who gotinto this company and lost everything, like
regular folks out there, and Trump pardonedthis guy, and when he was talking about it, he

(01:35:01):
had no clue of why he pardoned this dude.
And it's insane to me, and I was looking at itlike, what what's happening?
He he was like, oh, you know, he was he wascleared over here, and then this is an unfair
thing.
No.
This guy was never cleared anywhere.
He completely built investors and made hundredsof millions of dollars, which he still has, and

(01:35:23):
those people who invested in that company areSOL.
Right?
And at the same time, we're looking at TrumpYou know, when you When it comes down to like,
you know, CRS firearms, for example, FPSRussia, etcetera, these guys have not been
pardoned.
And what this comes down to is there's like, II I remember looking at that with Trump, why is
there no one around him that that he could go,what's going on with this Trevor guy?

(01:35:47):
Or, you know, what's up with this or that?
These people we think they know and they don'tknow.
You, for example, even though it's not yoursubject, you know.
Yeah.
In in the two a community, there's two examplesof people that should definitely be pardoned is
I I'm I'm currently blanking on their namessadly right now, but you have two gentlemen
from Kansas.
One guy in Kansas passed a sec an NFAnullification law that basically said, if a

(01:36:13):
suppressor is made in Kansas and doesn't leaveKansas, it's legal in Kansas.
Right.
One guy made the can, another guy bought thecan.
They both were charged with felonies under theObama administration.
It's gone up to the supreme court.
During Trump's first term, they were denied apardon twice.
And another case is you have a a master atarms, a navy

(01:36:36):
Yeah.
Law my god.
That guy.
Who built you know, who had a a parts kit andwas basically charged with possession of a
machine gun when it's not even a machine gun.
It's a parts kit.
It's a DWAT parts kit.
Mhmm.
He hasn't been part either.
So, you
know, I I I don't know who's up there doingthis stuff.
Who they need to stop the pardons, by the way.

(01:36:56):
We like, what the hell is going on here withthis, man?
The these pardons are getting out of control.
Trump is gonna make more pardons than Bidendid, and that's saying a lot.
You know, I I think that's what you know,that's one of the issues that we as an
organization are reaching out to the WhiteHouse and saying, look.
These are the people who should be pardoned.
These are the people who should have theirrights restored.

(01:37:18):
Mhmm.
It's wrong that you have law abiding Americanswho don't have an avenue to have their rights
restored.
You know, one of the good things that Panbodyjust did was take away from ATF
Mhmm.
The power to restore rights to nonviolentfelons on a federal level.
Because that that's always been there, butsince 9293, Chuck Schumer had an amendment

(01:37:43):
added to legislation back then that made it apower under ATF and never funded it.
So there was no viable means for anyone who wasa convicted felon of a nonviolent crime to
petition to have their rights restored.
Well, Pam Bondi just under because in the end,they all fall under the Department of Justice.
The AG just took that away from ATF and said,nope.

(01:38:06):
It's back under the DOJ.
We're gonna start processing people.
Okay.
That's good.
Were you gonna say something, Patrick?
Did we cut you off there?
No.
No.
Nothing to say.
Yeah.
Before we get into the, before we get into theSupreme Court thing, because I do wanna bring
that up.
Yeah.
There there is some good stuff.

(01:38:27):
I'm I'm encouraged by Kash Patel being at theFBI, and then also he's at ATF.
I know we probably would just like to see oh,the dream, Patrick.
The dream is that they just, you know, throwATF into a vat of acid.
Yeah.
I'm I'm I'm encouraged by that.

(01:38:48):
Love that.
Yeah.
I'm in but I'm encouraged by Kash Patel beingat the FBI and then Cash Patel also being what
is it?
Acting director of the ATF,
I think.
Acting director of ATF.
Now here's the thing, you know, we would ofcourse, we want ATF disbanded.
But first and foremost, before that happens,all of the anti gun laws on the books have to
be repealed because if they're

(01:39:09):
not Mhmm.
All that's
happened is all those eighteen eleven agentsare gonna be transferred from ATF to the FBI or
the DEA and all of that enforcement duties willtransfer to a new agency and they'll have
mission freedom.
Just remember, when prohibition ended, all ofthose federal agents that enforced prohibition
went over to ATF to start enforcing guncontrol.

(01:39:32):
Okay.
We gotta get rid of the law.
So we
so we never and when was that?
Prohibition was what?
In the thirties?
Prohibition ended in '33.
The NFA was enacted in '34.
Yes.
So prohibition started, what, twenties?
Or
Prohibition was 1920 or '21, I believe.

(01:39:53):
I've had my dates confused.
So so we never got rid of those prohibitionpeople.
They've just been folded in.
Mhmm.
Can you imagine living under that for that tillalmost ten years, people lived under that?
That's still bonkers to me that people just
I I know exactly what it was like.
I was a gun owner under the Clint AssaultWeapons Ban.
It's I know exactly what it was like.
Yeah.
It's you're absolutely right.

(01:40:13):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's go to this.
30 round Maracs being verboten.
I remember this this being a possible felonybecause it held over 10 rounds.
Yeah.
So let's go to this because I really wanna getus to cover this before we, close out here.
I wanna see everyone's opinion on this.
I know this kinda came up last week, but, youknow, we weren't able to to get on it.

(01:40:39):
The supreme court Supreme Court upholds rulesrequiring background checks for ghost guns.
Then it that that's CNN.
San Francisco Chronicle says Trump couldreverse federal restrictions on ghost guns.
What would that mean for California?
All that stuff.
So, do you are you following this, Louis?
You wanna bring us up to speed with what'sgoing on there?

(01:41:01):
Mhmm.
So what happened was is the supreme court ruledseven to two that the, Biden era ghost gun
regulation was constitutional and fell in linewith the 1968 gun control act.
But here's the thing, it's a regulation.
The Trump administration could very much tellthe ATF, scrap that, throw it out the window,
put it in the shredder.
And that's, of course, what we're pushing for.

(01:41:23):
The danger with this ruling from the supremecourt is that they gave basically came up with
some political gobbledygook to justify itsexistence as a regulation.
So what this means down the road is that howare they going to review other challenge.
Mhmm.
But in terms of this specific regulation, thiscan be repealed by the Trump administration

(01:41:47):
because this isn't a law.
This is just a rule, again, created by theBiden administration.
Go, Patrick.
One of one of my fears is we need some stuffthat we need to do something that makes it
where they can't do these things in the futurebecause the next administration comes in, they
have a change of heart, and they go, I don'tknow.
We wanna go back to this.
So Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:42:07):
I mean, as gun guys like, typically, thezeitgeist of the gun guy, right, is that the
ATF, for example, can't make, these rules.
I guess what the supreme court is saying isthat the administration can make these rules.
So the only way to undo it is with Trump?
Is that the is that where we're at, and isTrump gonna undo that, you think?

(01:42:30):
The the way to undo it is Trump could simplycould repeal the these regulations.
But as Patrick said, we need to solidify it andthat's where we pass laws that prevents this.
Mhmm.
Executive orders and resending previousregulations is great in the short term.
This is where congress comes in and we need toput pressure on congress to actually pass solid

(01:42:54):
legislation that defends our rights.
Because if it's just a repeal of a regulation,we already saw this.
We saw this when Biden took over.
You know?
Biden what was the first thing Biden did?
He repealed Trump's executive orders.
What was the first thing Trump did?
He repealed Biden's executive orders.
Mhmm.
But in Trump's first go around, he repealedObama's executive orders.

(01:43:15):
You know, it's this cat and mouse game.
What congress needs to do is actually their joband pass laws that say, no, federal government.
You can't do this.
Bad.
So with a supermajor I don't know if we we havea thin supermajority.
Right?
Do we what are the odds that we're gonna beable do?

(01:43:36):
We we just have a majority.
Okay.
So we're not gonna be able to do that rightnow, maybe until midterms, which is my least
favorite wait till midterms.
There there's a there's a there's a path.
If you don't have 60 votes, you can do itwhat's called budget reconciliation, which is
you attach it to must pass legislate either youattach it to must pass legislation or you

(01:43:59):
attach it to the budget and you get it passreconciliation, which a budget only needs 51
votes.
Mhmm.
Now going back to the Obama administration,remember the National Park Care.
The way that was done is Obama wanted thiscredit card reform bill to lower interest rates
or something.
Republicans attached National Park Carry tothat bill.

(01:44:24):
Obama wanted it passed, period.
Point end to paragraph.
He wanted it done.
Yeah.
He wanted that on his resume or whatever.
He wanted it on his resume.
Guess what?
If he wanted it, the democrats had to pass iteven with National Park Care.
So Okay.
There that can be done.
We could we could attach it to the NationalDefense Authorization Act, you know, the
national budget every year for the for themilitary, on the military.

(01:44:47):
Oh, okay.
Passed a lot of key provisions.
There's it's just lawmakers actually need togrow that thing called the spine and do it.
Okay.
So we need to find something that Democratsaren't going to want to filibuster. Democrats
aren't going to want to
aren't going to want to filibuster. Democratsaren't going to want to filibuster.
I don't know.
I'm guessing that would be maybe, like, fundingUkraine or something like that that's connected

(01:45:08):
to that that they that they really, reallywanna have no matter what.
It could be something as look.
There's you know, a lot of people want creditcard, interest rates control.
Okay.
Fine.
Add it to that.
Mhmm.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's interesting to see if we're actuallygonna get that.
I don't know.
What do you think, Patrick?

(01:45:28):
Think we're gonna get it?
I I have no idea.
I I don't I don't really I don't know,honestly.
I I Yeah.
Don't know what's gonna get done this term.
There's so many people out for themselves thatit feels like it's hard to get almost anything
past now.
Yeah.
I think that comes back to what the folks inthe gun community are waiting for, which GOA,

(01:45:49):
for example, is pushing for.
And so is other, two a organizations that areout there trying to get the administration to
give something to the two a folks, like, youknow, throw us a vote.
Well, here's the thing.
The they're not gonna give it to you.
You have to put pressure on them to do it.
Lawmakers' natural instinct is to do the bareminimum to nothing.

(01:46:13):
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I'm back.
That always cracks
me What
I was gonna say is Mhmm.
Lawmakers do the bare minimum.
They only push they only move the ball forwardwhen they're pressured.
And the big issue we're facing right now is andwe saw this back during the first Trump
administration, you know, right after he won anelection was the Trump slump.

(01:47:17):
Oh, the Republicans are in charge.
We got Trump in the White House.
We don't need to do anything.
No.
This is when you strike when the iron is hot.
Because remember, the Democrats did the samething.
When they had Obama in the White House and theytook took control of congress, the first thing
they did was they ran through Obamacare.
We need to do the same thing.
This is the moment to strike when the iron ishot.

(01:47:40):
And the difference between Republicans andDemocrats is when Democrats have power, they
exercise it.
When Republicans have power, they just hold itfor someone else.
We need to put pressure on congress now, Nottomorrow, not next week, now.
Yeah.
Patrick?
No.
Yeah.
They they if you don't pressure them, they siton their hands and do nothing and then go, oh,

(01:48:03):
look.
We did nothing.
We're at least we didn't do the bad thing.
Yeah.
I mean That's the that's
the that's twenty years of the Floridalegislature.
We didn't do anything bad, really, even thoughthey
did.
Yes.
And, 80 percenters, you know, I'm not gonna I'mnot a big fan of the ghost gun thing, but 80
percenters, which I believe people have theright to

(01:48:25):
You've always had the right to make your ownfirearm.
Always.
Yeah.
But this is a issue that they're wishy washyon.
This, for sure, is a issue they're wishy washyon.
We gotta push them on it, but it's a issue thatthey're wishy washy when it comes to this.
You know, Pat Patrick, you you brought up agreat thing earlier, over at the state fair,
you know, when they show how the Floridacrackers look.

(01:48:47):
They, you know, they are making black powderfirearms by a blacksmith.
That's an 80 percenter right here.
That's an 80% fire.
It's all this been doing it forever.
Yeah.
But the thing is Americans were building gunsbefore there was an America.
But how do we package that for these folks tounderstand?
Right?
I mean, you know, how do you package You canmake your own bow and arrow.

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You can make your own knives, you know, and andthe the genie's out of the bottle.
The people don't there a lot of people don'tseem to understand that I could you give me
enough reason to and I can turn anything aroundhere in front of me right now into a weapon.
Mhmm.
Hopefully, I don't have the reason to turn itinto a weapon, but it's not anything could be
turned into a weapon.
Turning something into a firearm doesn't meananything malicious.

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And I just And and then
the the crime is the crime is when you do thewrong thing.
You can build your own automobile.
You could build Right?
Or, you know, you can have a car, for example,and you can drive on the streets.
You're not supposed to use it to injure people,but there are folks out there who deliberate
use those to injure people.
Now
that's You'll see.

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We're always between certain people there'salways gonna be certain people out there who
want to have a nanny state that are telling youlike, look at the one that, Kier Staummer was
the other day in The UK was saying, oh, we'regonna crack down on ninja ninja swords.
Y'all really got a problem with ninja swords?
What the hell is going on?
They do though.
They do have a problem.
But, I mean, but this is inevitably wherethey're gonna go in The UK.

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Right?
Eventually, they're gonna go after your fistsand your and your and your feet.
But, you know, I became as part of our as allof our childhood, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,
it was illegal to call it Teenage Mutant NinjaTurtles in The UK.
It was Teenage Action Hero Turtles becausebecause ninja was the word ninja was outlawed
in The UK in the nineteen eighties.

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What the hell?
They were literally afraid that kids were goingto get throwing stars and start, you know,
killing each other on Oh,
The UK.
Oh my god.
It's so insane to me.
Yeah.
There's there's
I'm just I'm I'm truly I'm truly waiting forThe United Kingdom just to be just to flat out
declare breathing is a criminal act, and theyall suffocate to death.

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Yeah.
I mean, they've already you can't there's nofreedom of speech.
They are locking people up every day for thingsthat they say on social media.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It's insane.
Yeah.
We're we're dealing you know, I remember I usedto live in England when I was a kid, and they
as far as England's concerned, America neversaved them in World War two.

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Just craziness that people believe.
And and this is why all this stuff is going on.
You know what I mean?
And it's too bad that it's happening overthere, but I feel like the people over there
need to to resist this.
You know?
They need to push back against what's happeningthere because how you have to you have the
right to defend yourself.
You know?

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Not until the crown.
But you do have but you do I know.
I'm not a fan I'm not a fan of royalty, at allbecause I think these are the people holding,
the the people, of The UK around the world.
I think royalty is holding people back.
They don't have to face this.
They're not elected and they don't have to fitThey've got bodyguards and soldiers and stuff

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like that that protect them and the the Youknow, they never have to face what the everyday
person has to in England, and it's the samething.
It's almost the theme of what we're talkingabout here.
You know, the The UK could be a beautifulplace, but it also could be a very very
dangerous place.
Yeah.
And law abiding people have a tough timedefending themselves, and now they can't even

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have a freaking ninja sword.
At one point You know, have you ever seen acricket bat?
The Brits' cricket bat?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That thing's mean.
Yeah.
Smack somebody upside the head with that, gonnabe real bad.
Yeah.
I have I have one in my bedroom.
The last time before my mom passed, she shewent to England and she was like, oh, what do
you want me to bring you back from England?
I was like, I would like a cricket bat, please.

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And she brought me back a cricket bat that Ihave.
You won't be able to have that.
You know, you won't be able to have anything.
You You're I guess they just don't have theright to defend themselves.
And this is a a nation that I mean, how farback do we have to go in history when every
able-bodied male had to be able to use a bowand arrow, for
example?
He used to
have Winston Churchill, when before WinstonChurchill was prime minister, there was a time

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during Winston Churchill's life when every lawabiding Brit in The United Kingdom could walk
around with a concealed fireman.
It wasn't a you didn't even need a permit.
We The United Kingdom went from that
Yeah.
To
what we see today Yeah.
Which is hard.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It it's but it's going on for a long time.
I think, Patrick, you were gonna say somethinglike that.
Like, when you were even a kid, seven years oldor something.
Right?
You had to if you could stand, you had to beable to fire a bow and arrow.
Right?
Yeah.
Yes.
Absolutely.
It it it The UK is just so insanely backwardswith with I don't know how they've gotten to

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this point.
They used to run the world, and now they can'trun their own nation.
Royalty.
Look at us.
Look look at The United States.
Look at look at California, New York, look atthe Northeastern US.
It used to be the the Gun Valley.
All of the manufacturers used to be up there.
Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Colt, all, you know,all of them.

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Marlin, Savage, you know, companies that wentRemington, companies that went back to the '18
and Remington was founded in 1816 when youstill had founding fathers alive.
And now the little birth place of Americanliberty is a couple of degrees away from Canada

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and The United Kingdom.
It's appalling.
If you didn't have those companies, youwouldn't have America as we know it today.
Yeah.
You wouldn't have it.
You did you would just would not have it.
Yeah.
There would be some other and and people couldthink whatever they want to, but it would be,
you know, it would be some other place, Russiaor something like that, running America.

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Just you would not have what you have today.
For sure, you'd have the Europeans would haveto bow down to the king or whatever.
Something like that would be going on here inAmerica.
And yet yet where those places were founded,they can't exist there anymore.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
And I mean, look, even going go back to TheUnited Kingdom, you know, looking at the
country back in the eighties and before, youhad well respected names.

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Holland and Holland, whether it not whether itbe You had an Enfield.
You had
Mhmm.
Park Brothers was the
name of There's yeah.
There is a w.
What's the w?
It's not Weatherby.
It's
I was gonna say Weatherby.

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I know who it is.
They may Waverly.
Not Waverly.
I wanna say Waverly, but that's not it either.
Oh, awesome.
Someone in the
chat knows what we're talking about.
I know Sam Webley.
Webley.
Yeah.
Sam Andrews is big into those.
Yeah.
Webley.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, you had some of the biggestnames in the fire.

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I mean, look.
Webley Firearms, for instance, while Colt wascranking out a single action army, Webley was
already like, single action?
We have double action revolvers already.
Here you go.
That was in the eighteen seventies.
Yeah.
I mean, some of the most finely crafted doublerifle ever invented were made
by Holland and Holland.
And now,

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I think they're making air guns, and that'seven, like,
prohibitively expensive and you have to get apermit for That's what they've gotten in yeah.
It's so pathetic.
Where is the future gonna come from, man?
Especially when you can't make your own stuff.
Where's the future gonna come from?
You know, a young person out there who'sinterested in rockets could go launch rockets.

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You're interested in cars, you could go messaround, with cars.
Right?
So there's Yep.
There's lots of examples of that.
You know, I I could give you Rimac, forexample, which people may not know that, but
Rimac right now owns, Bugatti.
Right?
And the founder of Rimac, it's a Croatiancompany.

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When he was a kid, he was racing his BMW, blewup the engine, and then figured out how to run
that same car off of electricity.
He founded this company called Rimac, and, theVolkswagen Group gave him, Bugatti for that.
Where where is that gonna where is thatinnovation gonna come from in the gun world?
Look.
You know, a great a great example of that isthe National Firefly.

(01:57:35):
I love that.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
We got a baby coming in, but I'm gonna switchover.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
There we go.
Baby's coming in.
There you go.
There we go.
That's the future right there.
There you go.
But,
you know, a a great example of how innovationhas been stifled Mhmm.
Is the National Firearms Act.
John Moses Browning invented the machine gunbecause he was shooting his lever actions one

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day and realized, wow.
You know, every time I shoot, tufts of grass infront of the in front of the muzzle get pushed
over.
I got a way to harness that and he inventedwhat eventually became the 1895 potato digger
machine gun.
The first real American belt fed machine gunwhile Hiram Maxim was also developing the Maxim
machine gun.

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We don't have a political environment today.
That allows someone to do that.
I the the licensing that I have to get into youI'm an o seven zero two.
So I have the licenses to develop stuff, but itit was not easy to get all of this so I can
then experiment and make something new.
Like, we had we had the the m one carbine wasmade by a guy in prison.

(01:58:45):
He developed it in prison.
Like, could you imagine that today?
Yeah.
Look at that you A
a step a step further.
The fact that you are a manufacturer and youcould develop stuff, you're still stifled
economically because you can't sell yourproduct to recoup your investment cost.
Body.
I can't I can't.
I've had people ask like, yeah.

(01:59:05):
You can make machine guns.
I'm like, yeah.
I got some.
Why you have them?
Well, I mean, t and r t and e.
T and e test and evaluation, figuring out howthey work, but I can't no police department's
gonna come and buy some some baby face peemachine guns.
Like, nobody wants that.
It should be.
It should it it you should have that potential.
You guys are I can't I don't remember the nameof the guy, but you know there's that story in

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New York of I think it's a middle aged, blackguy, very nerdy, very quiet guy was building
guns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He had a he had a couple 80 he had a couplethree d printers in his apartment, they busted
him for that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know exactly.
Was not a was not a gang member, was not acriminal, was just very, very interested in it.

(01:59:47):
You know, he he just found that he wasfascinated by this and he had the idea Like,
you know, how do you know that you really areinto something?
Do you have to jump through all the hoopsPatrick is talking about?
Or, like, this is how you figure out, oh, I'mI'm really into this.
This really fascinates me.
The This guy didn't hurt anyone.
He's in jail right now.
The answer
today is exactly that.

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You have to go out and do illegal things andthen go, oh, I'm really into this.
Oh, I should probably get the proper licensing.
It's like Mhmm.
I I mean, think of the guys that are doing,Polymer 80 stuff or not Polymer 80 per se, but
like three d printing.
Mhmm.
I know some dudes that are pretty printingthings that aren't perfectly legal and it's
because they're it's the natural evolution ofhumans.

(02:00:28):
You wanna push the bounds and experiment andmake stuff.
Yeah.
But didn't we go ahead.
Go ahead.
Talking about suppressors and three d printing,every every person in this country should be
able to three d print a a disposable suppressorfor range use just as a public common courtesy

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and as a health safety device to save hearing.
The fact that it's so arduous to manufacture asuppressor and sell it Mhmm.
Means that every soldier out there is basicallyyou know, how much money could we save through
the VA if we didn't have
We didn't have hearing loss.

(02:01:12):
Suppressors on the NFL list.
Yeah.
Because if every if if if a suppressor was a$10 item that every GI, every soldier, every
marine could go to the p x and just buy it offthe a you know, the p x shell for $10 and bow
it.
Well, I don't wanna go deaf.
I'm putting this on my rifle instead of knowinghow to be a controlled item issued by the
government because it's sterilized and this andthat.

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Much money would we save just through the VAwithout having to have hearing loss?
The other the other issue here is if youallowed people like me to develop alternative
technologies, better technologies, better waysto print, better ways to manufacture, you'd
have more people in the game pushing pricesdown and they wouldn't even be that expensive.
A can will be cheap.

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It's a muffler.
It's a car muffler.
Yeah.
We push prices down.
We push innovation forward, but I think I don'tknow.
Maybe I Let me see if I could find thatarticle.
But isn't there something out there in the newsthat they're trying to They're gonna make three
d printers, have, I don't know what, a chip orsomething like that so you cannot print guns?
I think I heard that.
That's one thing they're pushing and, ofcourse, we're countering that with the short

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act which removes short barrel rifle, shortbarrel shotguns, and suppressors from the NSA.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
But that's insane to think that we could have
something like that.
And then the other idea that we have one gun ismore dangerous or evil because the barrel is an
inch and a half shorter or, oh, god forbid, heput a he he put a a vertical foregrip on his

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gun.
Like, it just it's so bizarre.
The gun law makes no sense.
We are really stifling the future production ofthese things.
And this is this is very important for Americaand I don't think people understand that.
And if that's get if that's if that's wiped outin the rest of the world and then we have all
these restrictions currently on America, whereis this gonna be going forward?

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The US government or any government were notthe ones that pushed firearms technology beyond
black powder.
It was individuals making stuff.
Yeah.
Just people curious about shit.
Exactly.
Government as a whole hasn't pushed innovation.
It's been private industry.
Yep.
It's been private individuals across the boardthat have pushed innovation in this country.

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And the fact that we are becoming like Europewhere it is a government run monopoly You want
a great example.
Again, go to The United Kingdom.
Look at their current service rifle, the s a80, the l 85.
And the common the common joke amongst theBritish military ministry of defense is our
service rifle is like civil service workers.

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You can't it doesn't work and you can't fireit.
That's a good one.
I've never heard that.
That's great.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, if they really want weapons thatworks, where do they get it from?
Us.
Just think about
the reason why the SAS runs around with a rfifteens while
Yes.
Regular, British commies run around with thatcrap awful l 85 bull Listen.

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It's a bullpup,
so it's beautiful.
But, yes, I agree with you.
I functional.
Not functional.
I
just don't the l 85.
It's garbage.
Yeah.
It should but it should it should have beenfixed by now.
It should have been fixed.
It should be easy running.
Sorry, Patrick.
Cutting you off.
Go go
for it.
I just bought myself a SIG of Romeo four XTPro.

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It should be here in the next couple days.
American Optic, that is the SAS now use infours, and they are using SIG Electro Optics
for the SAS.
It's just like the the British don't makeanything good anymore.
Yeah.
It's sad.
It's pretty sad.
And it used to be the rule of three zero threeacross the world.

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Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's, it's so pathetic.
It's so sad for the Brits.
It's it's crazy to think about that.
Do we wanna show off some guns here in whatevertime we have left?
Maybe show us
some to.
I didn't bring anything with me.
I got here.
I got this.
Alright.
So hold.
What you got?
Type of office I'm in.
I got a 50 cal sitting on my desk.
You got what's going on?
Are you show that again.
Show that again.

(02:05:12):
Got No.
It's just this is a 50 cal I probably stolefrom Walter at some point.
It's just sitting here on my desk.
Oh, okay.
Alright.
Very cool.
Can't knock that.
You need a 50, and that's all I can say aboutthat.
I could use a 50.
You know?
You know, that's the, that's the solution tothat.
While we're waiting for for Lewis to come back,check this out.

(02:05:32):
Steyr.
There you go.
M nine a two m f, which means modular frame notmofo.
Very nice.
Man, this is this is awesome.
I really love the sights on this, you know,those, pyramid
the triangles the triangle pyramid sights.
Nice that they're still doing that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very cool.
And and so modular frame now, So that'ssupposed I guess these are gonna be modular at

(02:05:56):
some time in the future.
I don't know.
Okay.
So let's, let me switch over to let me switchthis over to, let's go to Lewis here.
What you got?
Smith and Wesson model 29 dash nine heritageseries.
These were literally the last end frames toleave the factory without the lock back in

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February.
These were made they only made a 66 of thesefor Lou Horton as a distributor special, and
it's the only end frame 44 to have a pencilprofile burrow with a partridge partridge front
sight.
Interesting.
Wild design right there.
That's cool.
Basically, the whole deal was Lou Horton wentto Smith and Wesson in

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the nineties and said, make a modern gun thatlooks like the guns you made back in the
nineteen tens, and that's what they did.
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
That's very nice.
And only only a 76 of them exist.
And, of course, it's in the ever classicAmerican forty four mag.
44 mag.
Yeah.
There you go.
Very, very nice.
Congratulations on that.
Okay.
I think we listen.

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We have done two hours here already.
I really do appreciate, all the folks who areout there have been hanging out with us this
whole time in the chat.
I'm glad to see that we've got a lot of folkscoming over here.
Shout out to everyone.
I see, d c g forty four is mister bullshitter,Kurt twenty four out there, all those folks
that have come in, since we got started here.

(02:07:22):
If you guys are coming in late after this islive or you're coming in now, smash the thumbs
ups.
We really appreciate it.
Right now, at this moment, we have 30 people,hanging out with us here live, so I appreciate
that.
Big thanks to Luis Valdez of Gun Owners ofAmerica.
Specifically, he's here in Florida if you wannaknow what's going on with Florida.

(02:07:43):
I'm gonna let both of these guys, give youtheir information so that you could follow
them, support them, etcetera before we get outof here.
I'm gonna start with baby face p.
How can the folks do that, Patrick?
Chrome Vandium Arms.
If you are looking to get any gunsmithing done,you can either find me at the phone number
listed there or if you you're welcome to comeemail me [e-mail] or any

(02:08:08):
of my social medias.
I can get you on socials.
You if you Google chrome vanadium arms, Patrickwill
Yes.
So, you know, support him.
This is what Patrick does for a living now.
This is his thing, and he's pretty good at it.
I'm So loving it.
I'm never going back.
Awesome.
Yeah.
We don't want you to go back.
And the same thing for you, Louis.
Just tell the folks, the different things youdo here, how they can support and contact you.

(02:08:32):
Well, real simple on social media.
I go by real f l gun lobby.
That's on x, that's on Instagram, that's onYouTube.
Very active on x.
I will be active on Instagram and YouTube verysoon.
In terms of get following what goes on,gunowners.org.
I'm the Florida state director.
I'm the national spokesman.

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We fight I fight tooth and nail for Florida andon the national level for our gun rights.
If you go to gunowners.org, it's just $25 tojoin.
Go to gunowners.org/join.
Every penny goes towards the fight and you getup to the date information for local, state,
and national gun rights issues.
Alright.
Awesome.
Thanks so much both babyface p and Lois Valdezof GOA for joining us here and for all you

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folks hanging out with us.
That's pretty much it.
We will see you next week.
I need to now go through and hit all thebuttons, but we'll see you guys on the next
one.
Let me go let me let me hit these buttons hereright now.
Be solid, homie.
See you.
See you guys.

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Let me hit
that.