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September 10, 2025 144 mins
On this episode Kevin Dixie joins to give us an update and discuss the Greenwood Project. A broader conversation unfolds around military spending, PragerU controversy, black conservatives' roles in society and flag burning rights. The episode concludes with a showcase of firearms, wrapped up with listener support and closing remarks.
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This is oh, hold on.
I don't even know what episode number it is.
Think it's 1,075.
Alright.
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This is episode 1,075 of the Who Moved MyFreedom podcast.

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It's free for all Monday, and our special gueston this free for all Monday is sir Kevin One.
Diximas Okay.
Maximus.
He's on the only.
Yeah.
Hasn't been I don't he hasn't been on thisyear, I don't think, but we had you on last
year.
Right?
I hope.
No.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
I blame Lola.

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It's been quite a while.
No.
It's been it has been a while, man.
I'm glad to see you.
Glad you're here.
Let me see if I could somehow.
There we go.
Alright.
So we also, of course, have Walter KillerKeller of Safety Harbor Firearms and Babyface p
of ChromeVandium Arms.
I don't know if you know about this, KD, Butbaby face

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baby face.
Man, his face hasn't changed at all, but whatis the
I I I left my company.
I left my job, and I started a gunsmithing fulltime.
So I'm a o seven zero two full time now.
Yeah.
So yeah.
I know.
I know.
He's a he's a business.
How much bravery
that takes.
Yeah.
He is a businessman.
Yeah.
You know?

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Well,
have to say one thing about Patrick's Mhmm.
His his where he's at and the people he's intouch with
Mhmm.
And his feeding his he he's got a good thatfeed your business, which is important.
Yeah.
I'm the only person in, like, North Floridathat does this, and there's I it's I I I could

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charge anything.
I I don't I choose not to.
I choose to be very reasonable, but, like, I'mthe only guy in town, and it's fantastic.
Association with the shops and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do a lot of work for shops and things likethat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's that's the great a great way to go.
Plus, I've been having the conversation withpeople.
A lot of people don't realize that those actualhands on skills are, you know, the people who

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could do it are going out of the world.
They're all they're all gone.
Yeah.
So it's, you know, good to have someone in thecraft of gunsmithery.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I lying because I'll break everything I'lltouch.
Yeah.
And I have no idea how
to break it up.
It's just like
Well, the next time you break something, Idon't know if you have your own gunsmith, but,
you know, you could send stuff to toChromeVandy and they could take care of it.

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Right, Patrick?
You'd be you'd be surprised how many peoplebring me bags of parts and go, hey.
I took this apart to try to, like, clean this.
I'm not surprised.
I'm not surprised.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's like, I'll put it back together foryou.
On by in a couple hours.
It'll be ready.
Peggy just talked to me on the phone thisafternoon.
I I put I put the up
I put the hammer in the lower end and thespring, and it and it it isn't working right.

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Don't have it.
It's it's and I and she's like, you put it inbackwards.
What I love how she automatically knows.
Yeah.
Because we've had we've had three
or four lately like that.
They they thought they they they insist thatthey had it together right until we sent them
a picture how how it
goes.
FAQs.
We Yeah.
We probably should make another FAQ videobecause I think we did one, but it wouldn't

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make any difference because YouTube keepsdeleting them.
Yeah.
Or or or nobody or nobody will see it.
Yeah.
So Yeah.
That too.
That too.
So what's up to everyone?
I hope everyone's weekend was good.
Kevin Dixie, welcome.
I hope your weekend was good too.
Let's start let's start there with theweekends.
Let's start with Kevin.
How was your weekend, Kevin?
What'd you get up to?
Alright.
It was a it was a it was a sweet and sour.

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Sweet and sour.
Came back from
my Mhmm.
A beautiful beautiful outpost armory indoorrange, beautiful multimillion dollar facility,
gun store retail space, range space up there inMurfreesboro.
Director of training up there trusted me tocome in and and get his staff tuned up and get
them on a range.
So I was great.
So I'm, you know, on the road, go, you know,try to impart my my lessons on others and make

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them better to serve their their own people,and my truck decided that it didn't wanna go
with me.
Oh.
Well, the truck went
to go.
The transmission didn't wanna go any further.
Oh, interesting.
Interesting.
What what was what is your truck, by the way,just out
I got
a 20 my main drive is a 2010 Yukon Denali, andit's a all wheel drive.
Right?
So it's Mhmm.

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It's a it's a workhorse.
I love my truck.
It's it's nice.
You know?
And I'm I'm a I'm not a you know, when it cometo cars, I'm not you.
Just give me something that just goes.
I'm out of my car phase.
But it's a nice clean truck.
I got I got some money into it.
But, yeah, I got right to the line.
Line.
So I'm literally two hours from my destinationand two hours from home.
And it goes you know?

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But that that put a little damper.
But, man, I gotta tell you, to be honest withyou, once we got to once we got to shooting,
like, all that just went away, I got backtoday, got the car towed to my guy.
He he called me with a very predictable price,and I'll be announcing the GoFundMe shortly on
this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a transmission for a Denali?

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Oh my god.
Well Yeah.
The all wheel drive.
Two wheel drive would have been a littlecheaper.
Labor cost would even come down.
Is it all wheel drive or four by four?
No.
All wheel.
All all wheel all the time.
All wheel all the time.
Oh.
Oh.
That sound like that sound
like Oh.
All wheel drive.
That's less than or more than $10 to fix?
Oh, it's less, for sure.
It's less.

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It's less.
I'm I'm I'm all in before I negotiate labor myguy.
He always gets me like that.
We we can always bring the labor down a asmidgen.
But all in, I am 45 right
now.
Okay.
The transmission itself, though, for the sixand I got a 6.2 liter flex fuel.
So that also adds a little something to But forthe transmission remand, one or two year

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warranty depending on how you negotiate it.
Ballpark, you're between 18 and 23 depending onhow you like it.
Junkyard price is 18, which I'm not gonna do.
Remand price is 21 to 23 depending on what kindof warranty you want.
So 23 for the worst case, a couple grand to putin, a couple $100 for the fluid, you're out the
door.
Yeah.
That's better than I thought.
Yeah.
That's way better than I thought.

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Yeah.
Plus, you'll have a you'll have a warranty onit.
I don't know if it's a year or two years orwhat.
Yeah.
They give you a year.
I can get one for two years if I spend, like,another you know how to I'll try to upsell you.
You know?
Mhmm.
I can get an additional year on it if I want.
But yeah.
If I'm gonna go with a trusted reman shopprobably here locally that, they give you the
one year warranty, but I I got enough peoplelocally that

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can go, like, no.
They do they do good work
despite what the warranty says.
Yeah.
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
Alright.
Let's go on to Walter.
How was your how was your weekend?
I was alright.
Saturday, I what did I do first thing Saturday?
Oh, I went and had to go buy I had to go to alocal shop and Mhmm.
Pay a dollar for dollar more than any otherpart on this gun cost.

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Guns are coming out.
Hold on one second.
Let me go full screen here.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Let go me full screen because the guns arealready coming out.
Okay.
Bam.
Alright.
So I had to go buy this they call it the stockferrule right here.
Right?
Mhmm.
That was the last part on this SKS re refurbthat I did.
So I Saturday morning, went and bought that andpaid the ransom for that.

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And then, went home.
I met my friend Mike over at the shop.
Of course, we had Taco Bell, which is kind ofturned into a ritual on Saturdays.
Okay.
Of all things.
Uh-huh.
And then we discussed the ills of the world,and then kinda helped him do some more stuff to

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get finalize his his rifle thing.
Mhmm.
And and then on Sunday, I went out to breakfastwith my my significant other and my son and
came back home, and it started raining.
I got lazy, and I didn't do anything.
Yeah.
Besides look at the Internet, and I had goodintentions.

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But
There's nothing wrong with that.
That's good.
Good to recharge your batteries.
Yeah.
I just looked at different videos and learnedstuff about SKSs.
Yeah.
Just chill.
There's nothing wrong with that on a Sunday.
What about you, babyface p?
What'd you get up to this weekend?
I don't know that I don't remember what we did.

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Marley oh, we we just went we we had a ladies'day.
I took Marley shopping.
Oh, ladies' day.
We went to we got up.
We had coffee.
We went to HomeGoods, she bought Halloweenstuff.
And I think that's really all we did.
Oh my god.
Dude, they got everything.
They are in full swing for Halloween things.
Yeah.

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So Is that is the home home goods, you said?
HomeGoods.
It's a part of, like, HomeGoods and what's theother brand?
Michaels or no.
Not Michaels.
Okay.
TJ Maxx.
TJ Maxx and HomeGoods are, like, the samecompany.
So it's all, like, discount home stuff that'sbeen on the shelf too long.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Because there's a there's an out there's astore that opened by us, and it's it's home

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something too, I think, a big place.
But I heard
If it's if it's a HomeGoods, you should go takea look because their stuff is very reasonably
priced, and you can get lots of decor.
So stuff that's a couple of years old.
Yeah.
Usually, it's been sitting on the shelf toolong, and then but their Halloween stuff is
always fantastic, so that's she likes to
go for that.
I I
think this place is gonna be going under orclosing or something.

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I don't know.
That's what
I'm I think I don't think we did anythingyesterday.
We sat around a whole lot.
Marley went to work.
She came home from work.
Yeah.
I worked on some guns.
I mean, I I sat and worked on guns.
I built a well, we can talk about it later.
I I Walt, if you I had a customer bring me a 45ACP conversion unit for a black powder 44 cal

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revolver, which I've never worked on before.
It was really cool.
I had to stick into the milling machine andmill and and do some hand fitting, but it was
pretty cool.
I didn't know it existed.
So that turns a black powder
44 cap and ball Okay.
Into 45 ACP cartridge.
It it's neat.
Okay.
But that didn't damage the value of what maybeit wasn't like a

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He had a Pieta.
It was a reproduction.
It it wasn't like a Colt or anything.
Okay.
Alright.
Cool.
Cool.
Let me I I forgot to do this, so let me showthis because we always change the logo that we
do here.
So let me It's animated.
Off the logo.
I
see it's animated today.
Yeah.
Right now, it's loop yes.
It's looping on animated.
We always change it in honor of whoever theguest is.

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So there we go.
This is I the am
I the teddy bear?
Am I the bear?
Yes.
You're the bear.
Do you see the grumpy bear?
Look at that.
I bear you I've been the girl is the bear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, of course, that's Katie.
I did you know what, Kevin?
I'm gonna probably get extra why why are youlaughing?
That does look a little bit like Kevin.

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Right?
No?
Okay.
I did you know, so honestly, guys, I did thinkto myself, what is the animal for for Missouri?
Right?
You're from Missouri.
Correct.
Yeah.
So I looked up the state animal of Missouri,and it was a meal.

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And then I said, you know, I'm super tempted todo a meal, but I don't know.
We haven't had KD on it in a while.
He might not appreciate it so much.
So then I was like, okay.
I'll just go with a bear.
You know?
Yeah.
I, you know, I thought like papa bear, thatkind of thing.

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So I was like, okay, I'm just gonna go withthat.
So there you go.
The the the dog right there, that's baby faceP.
Obviously, the eagle is Walt and then the, theskull is me.
Now, they're kinda robots.
I was trying to do transformers.
They're kinda robots.
Do you guys see that?
Do you Mhmm. See
See Yeah.

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Okay.
What's up with the what's up with the crescentwrench?
Because the stupid AI would not let me put gunsin there.
I'll take a wrench.
It'll
it'll Yeah.
It it would not let me do it, man.
I was really I was mad about that, and I wastrying, and it just would not it was like, no.
You can't put because sometimes get away withit, and I'm able to put guns in there, but it
wouldn't let me put any guns.

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So I was like, alright.
I wanted to go with the robot thing.
I thought that would be cool.
That would be something different.
So there you go.
You know?
It's tough doing this, man.
It takes me a few hours to, to work on all ofthis and putting the right prompts on that.
I don't know who else does AI stuff, Katie.
You doing AI at all?

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No?
Not a lot.
No.
Not
at all.
Oh.
I know I gotta get hip to the game.
But
Yeah.
It's a pain in the butt to do the AI stuff.
So there you go.
Alright.
So let's see.
I don't know if for the folks who are in thechat, shout out to everyone.
I think I shouted out Jay Gru, C.
Bolas is out there.
Night Train is out there as well.
Shout out to all you guys.
If you have questions, let me know.

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Wisewalter is saying how many miles he has onhis Suburban.
They're talking cars still?
Yeah.
236,000
on the original transmission.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
How much you got on there?
236,000.
On original?
Damn.
Yeah.
Mine made it to $1.80.
Okay.
Yeah.
I I I I don't know how it made it that far, butit has.

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So Yeah.
I I I don't abuse it.
But early on, when I when that thing wasrelatively new, it towed the Boy Scout trailer,
all kind of places.
It went to New Orleans multiple times, KnobCreek twice a year, blah blah blah blah blah.
You know?
So
It's yours, four by four all wheel drive no.
Rare wheel drive.
Right?
Just two wheel drive.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
That probably has a little bit to do with it, Iwould assume.
Yeah.
So yeah.
I mean, you know, Katie, are you ready for anew car now?
Are you getting you were trying to talk toWalter about this before we started.
You know?
Are you getting a Cybertruck or something likethat?
Sort of
hard told you how
hideous them them damn things are.
I know.

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I was
I didn't buy that.
I I don't understand.
No.
They're ugly.
They're ridiculous.
And it's not even a real truck.
What?
Yeah.
It is a real truck.
What what what is it what is it that makes it areal or not real truck?
What are the elements that you're saying?
I'm I'm I'm I'm a
At minimum,

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it
should be a recognizable brand that's known formaking trucks.
I don't know.
Chevy, you know, GMC brands altogether.
Hell, I'll give you a Ford, Dodge.
I'll give you a
Oh, so it has to be a recognizable I'll
give you a Frontier frame.
Okay?
Okay.
Uh-huh.
That is not a truck, sir.
I don't that is not a truck.

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Have you not seen the the repeated videos ofpeople destroying those damn things?
If you're talking about what was the name ofthe dude?
Whizzlin Diesel or something like that thatmade his video for the views and did a bunch of
fake shit?
Sure.
I've seen that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
I'm talking about, like, the the they're tryingto get into tow challenges with, like, standard
1,500 series trucks.

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And they won?
Yes.
I've seen those.
Yes.
Yeah.
If it'd be different if somebody bought, like,a a 3,500 series truck or even a 2,500 series
truck with the right with the right engine init, and it was defeating the I'll be like,
okay.
That's unfair.
That is a a oddly shaped station wagon.
Oh, it's not a station wagon.
It is a pickup truck.
It has a pickup bed.

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Ask, actually, baby face p.
You where where are you defending me righthere, baby face p?
You have used my my truck as a
pickup truck.
It hold a new Cerakote oven perfect, so I can'ttalk to you about shit.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I noticed you being kinda quiet.
Cans of Cerakote,
I can't talk shit.
It works.
No.
Not cans of Cerakote.
I'm trying to find where when was that that wedid that?

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I can't remember.
I'm loving this.
I'm loving this.
I
can't remember.
Two, three two, three weeks ago?
Yeah.
I
think just go to HomeGoods.
You can't use it to go to Home Depot.
Right?
Oh, boy.
So listen.
Right here, I will show you.
Hold on.
Let's see.
Yeah.
You took you took pics of it.
You should have those.
You see this this picture over here?
That is my Cybertruck with a big ass crate init, Katie.

(17:53):
Yeah.
I have
one crate.
A big ass oven.
A oven.
How much does the oven weigh?
That's a person.
What is the oven?
Couple 100 pounds?
How well, how much does it weigh, Patrick?
Do you know what your
oven weigh?
Know.
Maybe two, three hundred pounds.
Yeah.
Listen.
That is do you see this box with shippinglabels on it?
That's official right there.
That's official.

(18:13):
Katie.
Give another 20 pounds for the shippingmaterial.
That's basically a high calorie human.
Did you ever put did you ever put did you everput a a big ass Cerakoting oven in your Denali?
Yeah.
Actually, not a Cerakoting oven, but I can tellyou for a fact.

(18:36):
In the back of the Denali, can carry a fullsize washing machine and dryer because I've
done it, like, three times.
Okay.
Alright.
Good for you.
Good for you.
There
you go. I
I what and that's that's the short bad boy.
That's not even a XL.
That's cute.
I'm glad that he was able to call you to useyour your your your station wagon.
That's very nice.
I'm just saying.
It's it's it's a it's a very expensive, but itain't a truck.

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It's a truck.
It's a truck.
It's a pickup truck.
Look at that.
Oh, that's oh.
Look at that.
This is gonna go for an hour if we don't cutHank off.
Ben.
Oh my Let's let's let's agree to disagree.
That's in full pickup mode right there.
Check that out.
Oh.
Oh,
man.
It's even in the company of a tractor trailer.
Is that thing actually sagging the rear of it?

(19:22):
It's 300 pounds.
It's not it's not it's not sagging the rear.
The it's actually dropped all the way down tothe ground.
It does that.
It it's on air suspension.
So I dropped it down as low as possible so thatwe could put that on there.
And it self adjusts.
Babyface knows all of this, and we I listen.
I got no dog in this fight.
It ain't my vehicle.

(19:43):
It works great to get that here.
But Yeah.
I've driven it off road, all that kind ofstuff.
You know?
And by the way Off road,
like, like, across, like, a football field?
No.
I've driven it.
I I I drove it on a off road on a actual offroad course that has steep inclines, all that
stuff.
I there's videos.

(20:03):
I got videos out there.
What speed, sir?
And what and what speed?
When you go off road, you don't go fast.
You don't go fast
going off road.
Like slowly climbing over hills.
Did you get to an incline?
You had to, like, gas it multiple times?
Had I had a straight uphill to climb up that Iclimbed up with that thing.
Like, how like like, vertical?
Yeah.
Like, damn
near vertical?
Yeah.
Also, you're doing you're doing Jeep shit now.

(20:25):
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is this thing is badass, man.
This is, you know and on top of that, youmentioned, like, Chevy, Ford, and all that kind
of stuff.
This is the most made in America pickup truckthat exists.
Oh, I'm not gonna argue that.
We all know the parts come from Mexico,Indonesia, and all that stuff.
In other in other things.

(20:45):
In other things.
But this is the most the the cyber truck is themost made in America pickup truck.
And also also, Katie, the safest pickup truckthat exists.
Fuck.
It is.
It is.
It is.
That's what some
that's what some nerd Elon bribed.
They gave him a free pass on
That's by whoever whoever does all the safetytests of all the vehicles out there.

(21:09):
That's on them.
They sent that.
Tell me if I told you, Hank, I'm gonna come atyou at sixty five, no brakes, and a mid sized
SUV.
It's almost it's almost impossible to flip it'salmost impossible to flip this I'm
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(21:50):
There's some there's some people complaining.
Cipolla says, you can't make Katie a jackasslaugh out loud.
There you go.
Yes.
Anyway, safest safest pickup truck.
Okay?
Most made in America pickup truck.
It's one of the fastest because it's equivalentto about 850 horsepower.

(22:10):
I'll give you I'll give you speed.
You know?
And and let me let me let me add one thing themost is because I got personal proof on this
from a friend of mine.
It's the most hated it's the most hated truckin America.
So this is what happens, KD.
My friend I run with another friend herelocally that has a cyber truck.
You the follower sons used to be in the BoyScout troop and all that stuff.

(22:32):
Mhmm.
We're in the
grocery store.
Ran and then he goes, oh, I went I went on atrip with the truck.
And I said, how'd it go?
I said, oh, it went fine.
We stopped in Nashville, North Carolina, hesaid it's bad.
I'm like, what do you mean?
From the flood?
He goes, no.
I've never seen so many trannies trannies in mylife.
And people were just flipping him off andyelling at him because he was in the

(22:54):
Cybertruck, you know, and doing all kinds ofweird you know, stuff that, you you know, you
might get shot for.
You might get shot for doing that stuff inFlorida.
But and and he seems never seen so much hatefor something.
And he said it was bad.
I mean, I you know?
But what happened was after after the flood,all the leftists moved up the mountain where
there were still places to live, and that'swhere the tourists hang out at, up in the

(23:18):
mountains, I guess.
And he got the full left wing nose through thering through the nose the ring through the nose
crowd full on.
So
Yeah.
That's it's crazy that we live in a world thisis the first time I'm 53 years old that we live
in a world we live in America where people hateyou for what kind of car you drive and try to

(23:43):
verbally and physically assault you because ofyour car.
Yeah.
I would definitely never physically assault aperson or touch their vehicle or anything like
that.
But and not for the political reasons, but I'mgoing to verbally assault you every time we
talk about this truck.
It has nothing to do with politics whatsoever.

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It's just ill
of it.
Have you ever driven one?
Have you ever driven one, Kevin?
No.
Why?
Okay.
Alright.
When The next time when I see you, I'll let youIf I'm driving mine, obviously, I'll let you
drive mine.
I bet you, you'd be a completely differentYou'd be talking a different story.
Yeah.
I Yeah.
Yeah.
You'll be talking a different story.
And, by the way, the reason why I'm showingthis little picture here of it This is my This

(24:28):
is the Cybertruck plugged in, by the way, andyou see it's purple?
The reason for that is because when myCybertruck is plugged in to to to the charger
here at the house and the power goes out, itcan actually run my house.
What?
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
My Cybertruck is a prepper.

(24:50):
Yeah.
It's a it's yeah.
You can also build a
on the freight and get a generator,
but, It's you know Cybertruck's ready for theapocalypse.
Cybertruck ain't ready for nothing.
When you gonna recharge if all
the power grid are down?
Your ass gonna go.
That's easy.
I got solar panels.
It's gonna
take charge the thing.
It's gonna take a long time.

(25:10):
It might take, like, it might take a couple ofmonths.
Uh-huh.
And But I got I got generators.
I got generators too, but it'll take
when a guy recently came out where hisCybertruck cut off on him and locked him in the
car on
the highway.
That was fake.
That was fake.
Oh, okay.
It was.
It was fake, seriously.
That So that video that that guy was running isnot the screen that would show up on the

(25:35):
Cybertruck.
He was just He was actually just running aYouTube video to look like that.
That's all.
That's just someone You know, people fake thatThere's a lot of fake bullshit out there on the
Internet nowadays.
That's that's one of the problems Yeah.
I think that's going on.
We we can't really believe everything that wesee.
No.
You know?
Really?
So no.

(25:55):
Obviously.
I mean, you guys know that.
So, yeah, that wasn't real.
That wasn't real.
The Cybertruck is the smart what Cybertruck isthe trucks, but smart guns are the guns.
No.
I don't agree with that.
I don't agree
with electronic thing that can't really do thejob it's supposed to do.
It can do it.
It can do it.
I've driven mine from here to California andback.

(26:17):
I don't you know, I'm not sure.
I can I can you can
that?
That's what it was meant to do.
What what is
it So here here's something I will guaranteeyou will never happen in my Cybertruck.
The transmission will never die or never failon me.
Do you know why?
Never.
That There's ain't one.
Is a
very valid statement.
I also guarantee you that when I put mytransmission back in, I could pull the frame

(26:39):
out of your truck.
There's No.
You can't.
You can't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shit.
I'm the only
That video you saw with with why do I alwayswanna say mister beast?
With Whistle and Diesel, that video, hedestroyed it.
And by the way, the f one fifty in there waswas was non functional.
He stopped that video and went and fixed thatthing.

(27:02):
Okay?
But
Of course.
Yeah.
So so that's you know?
Oh, these guys are trying to show off guns likewe're supposed
to By the way, we're tired
of talking about cyber trucks.
Okay?
Started the cyber truck thing.
Yeah.
I'm like, alright.
I mean
Yeah.
But I feel like I have clearly shown ways.
Hey.
Bring the Audi back.
No.
The r eight?

(27:22):
No.
Yeah.
No.
That was
I'm over Audi.
I, you know what what killed me with Audi?
When they started doing commercials, showing,like, bisexual people and stuff like that,
talking which I don't care.
You could be whatever you want.
I don't care what people's things are.
Right?
You could be transgender, bisexual, whateveryou want.
But when car companies start telling me thatthat's who they're making the cars for, I go,

(27:45):
oh, then you're not making it for me.
I'm out.
So
that kind of thing kinda, like, killed I Imean, I enjoy I had two r eights.
I enjoyed it, but, you know
So do squirrels.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The squirrels enjoyed my Cybertruck.
They they chew through wires on there too.
I hate squirrels.
I hate squirrels.
Don't bring it up.

(28:05):
The squirrels actually made me shoot my damndoor yesterday.
You shut off all the doors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lola was not happy.
She saw it this morning.
I because, you know, I you don't know aboutthis, Katie, but I have, like, a integrally
suppressed 22 rifle, and whenever I see thesquirrels out in the front of my yard, I, like,
you know, like, creep up to the door and slowlyopen it, but there's, like, my door and then

(28:28):
the What is that called?
Like the shut?
The storm door?
The
Storm door.
Yeah.
The screen door.
So I lean out the screen door, but this for forwhatever reason, you know, you part We've seen
gun guys shoot their their trucks and all thatkinda stuff like this.
Mhmm.
But for what you know, you where your optic isis not where your barrel

(28:49):
Nope.
Is.
It's Yeah.
Overboard.
Yeah.
So I'm, like, sneaking through the door, and Ididn't wanna make too much noise and, like,
scare the squirrel, and I pull the trigger andI hear bang.
And I was like, what the hell happened?
You shot the cyber truck?
Which car did you shoot?
No.
I shot the screen door.
Let me see.
Hold on.
Okay.
You shot okay.
As long as you only shot the screen door.

(29:10):
I shot the screen door and my son heard thatand he came out and he's like, what the hell
are you doing?
You said first time you shot the car.
I thought we thought
you said shot the car.
Yeah.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
I shot the screen door and then he came out andwas making it and I was like, I didn't want
Lola to see it.
So I was like, no.
There's nothing going on.

(29:31):
But when Lola was leaving for work thismorning, she saw it.
So Oh, fuck.
Oh, yeah.
That's a nice
hole.
That's a hand from there, man.
That's that's dangerous.
Yeah.
It is actually yeah.
So I was like, oh, okay.
This is a sign.
Now I've gotta replace this door, but it itprobably needs you know, it's it's needed

(29:54):
replacement.
You what, that little 22 round took a nicelittle chunk out of that metal.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
Yeah.
But it was probably point blank, so
Yeah.
No doubt.
Actually, I was lucky of the handguard.
I don't have, I don't have I can't reach itright from where I'm at, that gun, but, you
know, the handguard is one of those handguardsthat comes all the way up and then it's like a

(30:16):
weird How do I Let me see if I Lola.
Lola.
Yes.
Can you get me that 22?
What 22?
The the The door.
The one I used for squirrels.
Yeah.
Katie says Yeah.
Got a bullet in
the So
Just call just just call that gun screen doornow.
Screen door.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.

(30:36):
Yeah.
So, anyway, you know, now I'm in the club ofthe dudes who have shot their, who have shot,
like, their hoods and stuff like that.
You
know?
But you do realize that the organization ofsquirrels are having a meeting laughing at you.
Right?
I they're like
This idiot.
They're all good.

(30:58):
Yeah.
Oh, damn.
It's right there, Lola.
It's it's
That that
that You you picked it up earlier.
Yeah.
X-ray, take them.
Yeah.
They got away.
You're around them long enough, something'sbound to happen.
Oh, it's It's right in there, Lola.

(31:18):
See?
It's all it's a all black rifle.
Looks like an AR.
Integrally suppressed, and it's loaded.
The screen door knows.
Yeah.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
So here, hold on.
Let me unload this.
I typically keep it loaded for the damnsquirrel's acid.

(31:40):
Okay.
It's unloaded.
So so check oh, hold on a second.
Let me see.
I'm gonna go full screen on this one.
Hold on one second.
Okay.
Oh.
That looks just even worse in, like, a big in abig okay.

(32:02):
So check it out.
So this is the handguard right here, And youcould probably So see because, you know, this
part right here was up against the door, it'sactually better because I feel like if this
barrel was right on the door, some of thatshrapnel would have came back at me.
But because it gave it, like, a little spacebut yeah.

(32:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, those bastards.
I get a Sharpie and turn that little spot onthe door into a happy face
something.
Yeah.
So yes.
That's my shame.
That's my shame.
Now you guys know my shame.
Sorry.
What can I say?
What can I say?
Yeah.
You know, those kinds of things happen to to,like It's a it's a good lesson.

(32:48):
You know, it's like a road sign along the theroad of life, you know, to
Not accidentally shooting anything.
I did get to put something that you see inmovies a lot to the test.
I went out to my my property and with a chainthat we got, you know, I went to go take it
down, and the block over the year has justrusted and seized up.
You know?
Supposed to be a all weather block, whatever.

(33:10):
Did you just shoot it off?
Seized up, and I couldn't get the damn thingoff.
And I'm like I tried to rock, you know, beatingit down, that way the gears can let go.
And I was like, oh.
After about ten minutes, I'm like,
I got a gun.
So let's let's let's find out.
Let's see what
It it was pretty cool
to watch what you know?

(33:31):
And I I went, and that was in my truck when thetransmission was working.
I went and I put full metal jackets in itbecause I don't wanna, you know,
throw Mhmm.
About 25 hollow of points down at it.
And it was kinda interesting.
As soon as it made contact with the lock,though, was just like on a movie, just like a
quick snap.
And I was like, I've never actually seen thatbefore.
That was cute.
So where did you shoot?
Did you shoot the the actual big padlock itselfor the hook over?

(33:55):
No.
I shot I shot the actual lock because I knewthe the gears had pretty much let go, but it
just wouldn't let go enough for me to swivel itand take it off.
Mhmm.
So I'm like, alright.
I know if I impact the body of this thing, thebody goes away, it'll be fine.
Mhmm.
Because the
gears have already let go.
So I don't I won't worry about them lashing onanything.
So I swung the chain because why not be a childwhile I'm at it?

(34:16):
So I swung the chain and just stood back andjust,
you know
it took me, like, three rounds with the chainaway and Oh, okay.
Movie magic happened.
It was fun.
Okay.
I was gonna ask you what your technique was,like, you were worried about shrapnel.
Or
Well, that's why so I treated it just like Iwould treat a steel target.
So I moved it.
That's why I shot it from minimum 10 yardsaway.

(34:37):
Yeah.
I
just Okay.
That general philosophy, that general rule,hard objects, 10 yards away all the Yeah.
Cool.
Has anyone else here ever shot a lock?
I have not.
Mm-mm.
I'd like to, though.
Yeah.
No.
That's cool.
I don't even think Walt, have you done theshotgun thing on because I know you you do the

(34:59):
breaching rounds?
Yeah.
The breaching.
I've never used real breaching rounds.
No.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
No.
That's cool.
There you go, Kate.
Is this a video, Kevin?
This is it.
Is this a video somewhere?
No.
I just you know, I didn't even record.
I don't know why I did.
And you know what?
The gun was on fire today.
That's the same day that I did this.

(35:20):
It's the same damn day.
Like, the gun was just cracked up.
I can't even see that because it's not clear.
But
Wait.
What are we looking at?
Hold on.
Let me go I'm gonna go full screen on you.
Wait.
Hold on one second.
That's that's the bottle cap challenge.
Yes.
The bottle cap.
Oh, okay.
Hold on one second.
Let's go.
Okay.
There we go.
Yes.
There it
is.
So that's
the same day I did that.

(35:40):
Right?
And that was from and I put that littlechallenge up on Instagram.
So this was shot off of a 20 ounce bottle atseven yards and a one eight five from Holster
from Kasilman.
Hold on.
Let me go find your Instagram.
Yeah.
It's the last video I put up on Instagram.
So it was the same day I did this.
I'm like, the gun was just hot.
Some days you just got those days whereeverything's just lining up.

(36:02):
But I've been doing
Mhmm.
The last couple of years, I've been honing in alot of a lot a lot a lot of skill.
And so I was like, let's let's put a little funit.
And, you know, and this was this is prettycool.
This is a lot more challenging than peoplethink.
Especially when you look at the travel, you cansee that how the round travel.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
That's a lot more challenging to people.
It's fun, though.

(36:22):
It can be done for sure, but it's a lot morechallenging than people think.
And this is a good way to recycle also.
I approve of this method of recycling.
Hey.
Make reusable targets.
Right?
Yeah.
Let me see.
So you said it's the last video.
Video on the left.
This one?
No.
Yeah.
There we go.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(36:50):
Then I'll show the time here.
Oh, so you did a draw and everything?
Oh,
boy.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
I think it's good.
This is all part of the challenge?
You have to time your draw?
Hell, yeah.
You seeing that, Joe?
Joe's in the Joe's in the chat, man.

(37:10):
You seeing that, Joe?
You think you can do it still?
Yeah.
You gotta if you gotta time it and everything,and then you did it under two seconds, I think.
What was it?
One eight
seconds.
One point eight five seconds.
Now Yeah.
When I say from the holster, not outside thewaistband.
Like, your gun cannot be seen.
Oh, wait.
This this wait.
This cap this bottle cap was on the bottom.
Yeah.
Correct.

(37:30):
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Now what you're thinking about?
like
No.
That's not super easy.
Do I think I could I think I could probably doit.
I think I could probably do it.
It's not gonna be one point eight five seconds,though.
And so in the challenge, if you shoot it atbecause you can also do this at five yards.
If you do it at five yards, you get fiverounds, and you have to do it in less than

(37:53):
three seconds.
If you do it at seven yards, you get sevenrounds, and you have to do it in less than four
seconds.
Oh, okay.
Is this one of the fun games you do, like, whenyou're training with 22?
You do a lot of 22 training, I think.
Right?
Or using 22?
Just with the Kia's not.
That was with a nine mil.
Oh, that was a nine?
Yeah.
That was a Glock 19 x.

(38:14):
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
That's that kind of stuff is it goes with themonth.
So I'm people have been yelling at me for yearslike, yeah, we know you train people, but and
we but you don't ever show it.
And I'm like, yeah, because you ever are youever really good at something?
You don't wanna argue with the Internet Andthis is
how Mhmm.
Right?
Like, so I decided that, yeah, we'll put outmore stuff.

(38:36):
So what I'm working on this month, like, tipsthat I'm gonna put out for the public this
month is one small tip.
If you wanna get better at shooting, we need tostop shooting at b twenty eight, b 27 targets
that are this big.
Right.
Saying it's good to go if it hits anywhere onthe target.
Right?
We have to learn how to start refining thoseareas.
You can refine it on the target.
Right?
Whether it's just working with the a zone oryou can put refined points in the zone.

(39:00):
You can you know, paper plate if that's whatyou're using.
Use a marker and draw a more refined spot.
But the visual cues that our brain wants, ifit's refined on a very particular spot and
you're working through your fundamentals andall the other things, it is going to respond
better to you being accurate.
As long as you give yourself this much to shootat, well, you're gonna take up this much space
and then more.

(39:20):
But if you refine it from this to something inhere, then you will see that you will have a a
a better result when you start shooting.
So I gave that tip out, and then I said, okay.
Here's an example.
If you work on small targets, now here's achallenge.
Right?
So it all fits in with refining the size ofyour targets to be more accurate and precise
with
your shooting.

(39:40):
Okay.
That's cool.
Be.
Alright.
I didn't stand out there and, you know, hold itfor four or five seconds, take a deep breath.
That was from concealment out the holster, lessthan two seconds or seven yards at a small
target like a model cap.
Okay.
Cool.
Yeah.
That's I think that's good.
What is the what is the saying behind that?
Like Aim
small, miss small.
And
Yeah.
Yeah.
Aim small,
miss small.

(40:01):
There you go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's a cool thing to do.
And it's fun, man.
You know?
And and one thing I will say even for, youknow, the world that we live in, I don't know
if I'm I'm I'm not the first guy to put out achallenge.
I will not be the last guy to put out achallenge.
Pretty cool challenges out there.
And I think the cool thing about that, even ifyou miss, guess what?
You went out, you tried, you had fun.
Right?
It's it's it's just fun.

(40:21):
It's it does show skill for sure.
But at the end of the day, man, if we can givesomebody something fun to do with the range and
kind of bring a smile back to our faces insteadof always thinking about murder, death, kill, I
think it'd be a kind of a cool
thing just to do something fun.
I agree with that.
And, really, if you get into trouble, you'renot gonna do a lot of thinking.
So whatever your motor skills are is whatyou're gonna resort to.

(40:42):
Mhmm.
You know?
You're not gonna do a lot of thinking, aiming,etcetera.
And if you put four or five in that bottlebelow that cap, you're a pretty good shot.
Mhmm.
There's the other thing too, Walt.
Right?
Like, on mine, you will you will see in thecaption I put, that was my third round.
Right?
The reason that the neck was missing on thebottle is because I was hit.
I had the first two rounds hit the neck.

(41:03):
Right?
Mhmm.
And I'm like, okay.
That's the even if I would have never
Yeah.
That's still, like, in this in this kindadistance.
Ounce bottle?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now the the fun part is gonna be when the othervideos come out, which y'all mind saying here,
is that I'm also, like, like, well, we got abottle.
Let's keep using it.
Right?
So now we we basically you know, our bottlesare labeled.

(41:23):
You know?
So you take the label and you use it as a wayto divide the bottle.
You know?
10 ounces this way, 10 ounces that way.
So it winds up being, like, two by two and ahalf, kind of a very small target if you divide
the bottle.
Right?
Mhmm.
And so I did that.
So then I took the bottle, I flipped it upsidedown, and the only target area is the the
little the 10 ounces worth of the bottle, ifyou will.

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Alright.
Boom.
Sorry about that, Katie.
Finish your thought there.
Okay.
No no problem.
So with that target, basically, taking a 20ounce bottle and splitting it half, basically.

(42:30):
It's a little bit smaller than that, but half.
Mhmm.
Put it on the target stand, take a step back,and now the goal is to draw and hit that
target.
But now we're not at five or seven yards.
I did it at 25.
Okay.
25 yards in less I think I did that in twopoint four seconds from draw concealment,
right, and hitting those targets.
And those kind of things are just, you know,fun.

(42:51):
And then when you do that one, then you justflip the bottle, and now you're to the narrower
part of the bottle.
Right?
And so now that'll be kinda the last thing.
Now you gotta do that at 25 yards, and I'llprobably have that that goal to be in under
five or six seconds.
We'll see.
But you gotta do it all from concealment.
It's all pure skills presenting and at a very,very small target from 25 yards back.

(43:12):
Mhmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good way.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Skill.
Mhmm.
And
people are like, I wanna be like the guy and Iknow, met him like five or six, seven freaking
times now.
What's name?
Steven something.
I gotta shot the dude in the the church withAR.
Yeah.
He's a really good guy.
He's always with the jail.
I can't
remember his name, but

(43:33):
Yeah.
Dave And even though that was with AR, know wehad a guy right before that that did
The one in Texas you're talking about?
Or
Well yeah.
Because one third two in Texas, one guy usedthe 1911, and one guy used the AR.
Yeah.
Are you talking about the AR guy?
Or
The AR guy, you know, I'm using him as anexample, but there was another guy that did
across the and it wasn't this guy.
It wasn't
the guy that's with the GOA all time.

(43:54):
So another guy that shot The across, like, thepews at a problem Oh.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In the yard?
Yes.
And and you hit the guy in the head, like,everybody's like, oh, I wanna do that.
I'm like, alright.
Cool.
Well, do this.
Right?
Like, and if you can do it, then you know,because that's that's not a it's not hard, but
under stress
It's not easy.
Yeah.
It ain't easy.

(44:14):
Yeah.
Wasn't there a guy that did that in a mallalso, in, a mall thing?
Like, a mall shooter?
Did the same thing, drew and shot at, like, 35yards or something.
It was a good shot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He did 40 yards, 10 rounds, eight connected,two went into the structure.
Okay.

(44:35):
It was fantastic shooting.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
Steve Steve Willebrand?
Steve something?
That was a Texas
That sounds very No.
You're I think you're talking about the GOA,because I've met him a few times too.
The GOA guy's one that I think he used the AR.
He's actually, he was on the show.
That's the that's the guy with the AR.
He was here on the show.
Yeah.
I think he was He's

(44:55):
a really nice guy.
Really nice Yeah.
Very nice guy.
I didn't talk about shooting with him andanything.
I I mean, I met we've hung hung out a bit.
Hung out at a at a house party.
We got to talk, get to know each other.
Then I I see him all the time.
And even even with him, it's like, yeah.
Good on him.
And then when he's telling I will give himthis.
He doesn't, like, bask in the story.

(45:16):
If somebody asks him, he'll give you, like, thesnippet and kind of his thoughts.
He's not really a gloating guy.
Right?
No.
Even with that, you know, I said at one timewhen we were all sitting around, I was like,
that's good, and I'm glad you did that.
I hope you don't stop training.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
Right?
Also, I hope he keeps his magazines loaded.
Yeah.
And I also
I also believe he was barefoot too, by the way.

(45:39):
Yeah.
Because he was sleeping.
He was sleeping.
Imagine doing that waking up from sleep, like
Yeah.
And just So going into the fight.
Yeah.
Add a little extra to your challenge there.
You gotta do it barefoot.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
That would that would be funny.
That would be funny.
I ain't gonna
do it, but I'll tell somebody else to do it.

(45:59):
Not walking on I'm not walking on edge towardsthe Clay Burt foot.
Mhmm.
That's that's not very safe.
You might drop a hat round between your toes.
You know?
Come on.
Come on.
That's not very safe.
You might
wind up with a bullet ant between my two if Ido it in my range.
Yeah.
Well, if it's too wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He didn't have much time from what I rememberfrom his story.
He didn't have that much time.
I think someone I believe that he was not hewas sleeping or something like that or he had

(46:23):
just come in and gotten undressed or something,and then his mag he didn't have magazines ready
to go.
He had to, like, load up real
load up, oh, load up bags.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah.
You know?
But he did what needed to be done.
So Got it.
Done.
That's much appreciated.
Let me get some comments in here real quickfrom the folks out there.

(46:44):
Let's see.
Cbola says he's with KD on the Cybertruck.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
So it's fine.
It's all good.
Let's see.
Night Train says, I see a lot of Cybertrucks onthe road lately and in different colors too.
There you go.
Wrapped.
Yeah.
And he he wants to see one out fitted with agun turret.

(47:06):
Someone Brandon We are gonna
do we we will be doing that eventually as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Brandon there was a company that sold themout.
Right?
When Brandon Herrera did his video with hisCybertruck?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I thought it was a company that sold I can'tremember the company, but I think that was from

(47:27):
a company.
Shout out to the Archangel.
He's out there.
Shooting Galleries out there as well.
Shooting Galleries says he can do it.
No problem.
So I know we'll be seeing that video soon.
Yeah.
Do it.
Hashtag you tag Kevin Dixie.
Yeah.
What was it?
What's the hashtag?
The hashtag is chosen challenge.
Boom.
There you go.
Alright.
So make sure you hashtag it and tag me, thereal n o c.

(47:50):
Yep.
I'm
gonna see it.
Yeah.
Chosen.
Yeah.
And let's see.
What is this Archangel.
I don't even I'm not sure what they okay.
Yeah.
They oh, that's people talking to each other.
Alright.
Cool.
So I guess we should find out what's been goingon with Kevin Dixie all this time that we

(48:12):
haven't.
Yeah.
You know?
And by the way, it's not it it was not for anyspecific reason that Kevin Dixie wasn't on
here.
I know I was try I think I was trying to gethim not last week.
When was that?
I was trying to get you on, but I I think youalready had a commitment.
Yeah.
I think it was right before Labor Day.
Yes.
Something like that.
Yeah.
I was trying to get you on.
But, I mean, even, dude, I was cataloging thefirst 100 videos of this podcast.

(48:38):
I mean, we're over a thousand now.
The first 100 videos, you're in there liketwenty, thirty times.
Oh, yeah.
Here's the whole bunch.
So,
I mean, we've we've gotten together like Ithink we did some Christmas or New Year's, all
kinds of crazy stuff.
So Mhmm.
Yeah.
It's just we kinda slow down when we hit athousand, KD.

(49:00):
And we only really do it on Monday and stufflike that.
So I'm glad you were able to make this one.
You know?
What have you been up to in all this time?
Well, Matt, you know, it's it's been a it'sbeen a wild couple of years in in a positive
way.
It's been challenging.
You know, I think we all face life challenges,so I'm not gonna complain about that.
But it's it's been good.
Much like Babyface now, what I do is full time.

(49:24):
This is what I do all day every day.
That's why I gave him a round of applausebecause the amount of courage it takes to do
that is is pretty it is a lot.
Right?
It's stressful.
This is what I do full time.
We have and that's the training, consulting,things like that.
So travel is a down year for everybody, buttravel is is still pretty level comparative to

(49:45):
what the year is bringing for the industryaltogether.
So enjoying that.
My highlight I have two, but I'm gonna alwaysput my son above anything.
My highlight is that my my my son went army,went active army.
Cool.
That's awesome.
He got
No way.
When he got out of boot, they sent him over toa look.

(50:06):
So the I told him just be kind to everybody youmeet and work hard.
Be the hardest work in the room giving them dadadvice.
He did, and they sent him from straight out ofboot in AIT school, and he got his first
assignment.
So he turned 19 in Hawaii and is enjoying athree
year contract over there.
I got two years in Hawaii.
Yeah.

(50:26):
So are you saying you're gonna get Hawaiian,you know, daughter-in-law or something coming
up?
Or I'm just gonna
tell you.
I a I'm tell you like I told him.
Son, the more women like you guys, you are sixfoot six and some change, two hundred and
seventy pounds.
She's crazy.
Six six.
Time you
have I I can't even yeah.

(50:47):
I can't believe that because I feel like thelast time yeah.
I think, like, he was in high school orsomething like that.
Yeah.
The last time he was on I think he probablylast time he saw him maybe his sophomore years.
So Right.
Oh, you know what?
I haven't been on since he since he did that.
So one thing that happened, I'll make that justa real quick story.
So Mhmm.
The thing that made me super proud of him and,like, emotionally proud of him is what he did

(51:11):
during his he unfortunately encountered aschool shooting at
his What?
Yeah.
So he was it was during a football game at thehigh school, and people started shooting at the
the football game.
So they classified as a school shooting.
Mhmm.
But what made me proud of him is when the chaoshappened, he was able to actually be the adult

(51:34):
in the room.
Right?
When they all ran, you know, groups ran.
Obviously, the coaches made the kids run.
I don't know why they ran midst of gunfire, youknow, 75 yards to a locker room, but they did.
Mhmm.
They got in there, barricaded the doors, thingslike that.
And one good example of how he was controllingthe room is that one young man was crying, and

(51:56):
he was trying to call his mom who was in theaudience because I wanted to make sure his mom
was okay.
You
know?
And he couldn't he he was so emotional, hecouldn't press the buttons.
Right?
All fine motor skills went out the window.
So my son actually went through his phone,found the word mom, called mom, and said, just
listen.
Hey.
And, you know, said his name was like, I'm withhim.

(52:16):
He's okay.
Are you okay?
And she's like, yes.
We're okay.
We're in the car.
Awesome.
Awesome.
He said, okay.
She's cool.
You calm down.
Then he went and called his own mom because mywife, my sister, and my niece, my nephew, and
my daughter were all there at the game as well.
I was in Tennessee training.
So he actually told them where to park on theparking lot, how to remain calm, where to get

(52:41):
low on the He called her back and said, okay.
At this point, this is when you can leave.
Take this exit based off where the gunfire wasat.
I want you to go that direction, and he neverever had any emotions to it until he saw me.
Then he had an emotional response.
Right?
It was just a level of maturity in manhood asI'm taking control of that and just trying to

(53:03):
do what he could in chaos to even help one ofhis teammates, let alone take care of his mom
and his aunt, you know, and his Mhmm.
His sibling and his cousins.
So that was awesome.
And then so I I knew right away.
Was like, yeah.
You and the military are gonna get along justfine.
So he he then played football, had some goodyears there, lost a little bit of weight,
wanted to go air force, wasn't getting the warmand fuzzies from from the air force.

(53:24):
They're a little snooty, little snoosh hens.
So he wound up going army.
Signed up, went there, was having a good time.
The cuteness is a a freshman in high schoolnow.
Oh, no.
Freshman in high
school and high school and college courses atthe same time.
So she's in both.
Mhmm.
So she is the the little brain of the family,if you will, and giving me the biggest headache

(53:47):
of my damn life.
Mhmm.
So every day, have to
Yeah.
As a dad, man, high school, you know, as a dadof a daughter, high school's rough times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not it's it's fun it's fun it's fun tolisten to her at the same time.
Like, just before we started this, she had thenerve to stand here and tell me, oh, hey, dad.

(54:10):
There's some eye candy in my class.
What'd say to me?
Yeah.
Oh, I'm just saying he has nice hair.
Don't
Oh, okay.
Don't
Like, don't do that.
Oh
my god.
Yeah.
Wife is still doing good, doing fine in hercareer path and accelerating, trying to do
awesome things.
And then the gun related stuff that's huge isthe Greenwood project is out now actually open.

(54:36):
I know I was talking about it, but we'veactually secured 40 acres of land just South Of
Atlanta.
We have two it's obviously, it's all about thecommunity outreach stuff.
Right?
So that is the first thing, reading, writing,financial literacy.
We have a space for a garden, a miniature farm.
We're just waiting to get the right resourcesand and build those up, but we cleared the
space, leveled the ground for those things.

(54:56):
We've already done several classes out there,had career days.
Like, we've been had fortunately, do someconnections and some training.
I've had all the stunt doubles from the Marvelmovies came out and actually gave the kids a
pathway in careers in Hollywood.
Right?
Okay.
Well, having them out was cool.
We did some pretty cool stuff there.
Other entertainers we've had out at theproperty, celebrities and things like that

(55:16):
along with financial doctors, lawyers, all thatadvising the kids about career paths.
And then we have two shooting bays out there.
One of them is one our first shooting bay,which is I I call the ride bay.
And as an instructor, I want
some room.
So it's a 120 by a 130.
The first Where where is this on NOC, or am Ifinding this on a different website?

(55:43):
No.
You're not gonna find the only thing we have upfor Greenwood right now is the giftsandgo.com
where you see can some footage of in thisstuff.
So that's givesingle.com/greenwood.
Haven't had the capacity to build its ownwebsite out yet because of all the
restructuring we're having to do with theNorthern Choice brand, but there will be.
But the gives and go gives full detail of whatwe're doing.

(56:04):
It's it's it's loaded with information.
So, yeah, you guys will be so inclined,especially helping us out what we're doing for
those kids.
Givesandgo.com/greenwood.
And that's that's where we put a lot of It'snot a it's not a for profit.
It's all nonprofit thing.
But for, like, brands like mine, which Iseparate from Greenwood, after we're done doing

(56:25):
all the community work where whether they'reshooting or not, we just wanna help people out.
Out.
Right?
We wanna help them be better.
And we're gonna partner with other localcommunity organizations that have skill sets.
You know, let's get people out the house.
Let's get them understanding what healthyeating is.
Let's get them all these different things thatthey need.
Right?
Let's get your kids out of bad environments.
We've we've saved a lot of kids from making alot of mistakes.
Right?
We pull them out those environments even as faras, you know, just understand how to

(56:49):
communicate with them.
I'm like, hey.
You can stay, you know, in your neighborhood,and you can, know, you do the wrong thing and
run from the police.
And if I catch you touching a gun, you won'tshoot mine.
And trust me, the dude on the street does nothave the cool guns I have.
Right?
Just kinda playing with the minds of children,and they they gravitate to that very well.
Is this the right one I've got up here?
Right?
Greenwood rebuilding what was lost?

(57:11):
Yeah.
That's correct.
Yeah.
Rebuild what was lost.
And so that that's been that's been fun, man.
I'll tell you this.
You want a headache?
If anybody's ever looking for a headache, tryto develop a shooting range.
Yeah.
I mean, I it would give you
all the headache
you have. You do
You do if you I mean, if you're doing itlegally and trying to deal with all the

(57:32):
permits, yeah, it's a freaking nightmare nomatter where you do it.
Think in Florida, it's a nightmare.
I don't think do they do they give it's didn'tAres go through a bunch of stuff?
Yeah.
The the legal side of things is was a pain
in the went he went through a lot because theneighbors gave him hell.
That's why
he went through a lot.
So So for me, the way legally, I use shootingrange as just a common term.

(57:55):
For me, the shooting range is not so we're notI property.
I use this private land to enrich people'slives.
Okay.
Part of that is sports.
Part of that
is sports is shooting.
Mhmm.
Right?
Like, it's not
It's not specifically open to the public forshooting or memberships, etcetera.

(58:20):
A straight way.
So we don't even allow Mhmm.
The public unless you are there as a groupworking on something with a professional person
that knows how to be safe and things like that.
So in other words, you can't just be, oh, lookat the baby.
Yeah.
Oh, I don't know if you I don't know if you'reeven here.
Let me switch over.
Let me go full screen.
Have you ever met Babyface's baby?

(58:41):
I don't know.
You say hi?
Hi.
Oh, look at that.
There you go.
What's up, Chromie?
Wave.
Yeah.
I well, he's not I don't think he's gonna waveunless he sees his own face on the well, he
sees the rest of it.
There you go.
He's seeing himself.
Here.
I'll put I'll suck.
Hi there.
There you go.
Alright.

(59:01):
What's up?
Hey.
Yeah.
There you go.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
Yeah.
It's time's going so fast, man.
Like, I can't believe your son is in the in inthe army.
You know, the cuteness is in freaking highschool.
I don't know.
My whole head would be gray.

(59:22):
See the beard, man?
You have you noticed any change?
Yeah.
Well, that's true.
Yeah.
You know, you ain't got no hair on your head.
So
Yeah.
The beard is the beard is definitely a man.
But, no, it's been it's been a it's been a funride, man.
Mhmm.
Greenwood is a very emotional project for me.
I'm gonna be very transparent and honest like Ialways am.
Brother, one of the first things I did is I satat top of the berm.

(59:43):
The berm is, like, 10 to 12 feet high at itspeak.
I sat on the top of the berm and just kindaoverlooked the land to do and sat there for,
like, two hours, and I couldn't stop burning.
Right?
It is just one of these beautiful things youstart to see when whenever your life goals
start to kinda come together.
Right?
You start to see it.
It's it's really emotional.

(01:00:03):
And for me, I had to go back and do, like, somesome measuring.
You know, coming from where I come from and allthe struggle and what the world told you you
were gonna be.
Like, the piece of property I own is biggerthan the neighborhood I grew up in.
Wow.
What So when you're Kevin
Mhmm.
What what what what county is that in?
It's technically in Lamar County, Georgia.

(01:00:24):
Okay.
Okay.
I'm good.
Yeah.
Is that in is that down the Peachtree area?
I think it's Peachtree.
What is that?
Peachtree area?
So Peachtree is a little West of 75.
So if you're, like, on Interstate 75 comingstraight from, you know, South Of Atlanta going
down 75 South, you'll get to McDonough,Georgia.
Right.
Okay.
Mhmm.
Okay.
And then when you cross to McDonough, Georgia,if you're familiar with that highway, you're

(01:00:45):
running to, like it's Locust Grove.
It's like a Tangiers outlet mall, one of that.
Oh, I know that area.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Eric used to be in that area.
Right.
Okay.
Cool.
Yeah.
Ten minutes past him.
Oh, cool.
Okay.
Yeah.
Alright.
That's where, like, the the IV 88 thing hasgone down there in the past.
I don't I don't think the last time they didit, it was in that area, but I know I've been

(01:01:09):
He called me north.
He was North Of Atlanta.
So it was, like, two hours north of theNorthern tip of Atlanta.
Mhmm.
Then he moved it, which it got canceled beforeit could actually go live.
Yeah.
Moved it to Savannah, Georgia, which is, youknow, close to you guys.
It's, four hours south of here.
Yeah.
And but they they wind up sending out an emailsaying they're pulling the event.

(01:01:30):
They couldn't get the proper, I think, vendorsupport is what the email said.
Yeah.
That's unfortunate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's hard.
That's that's hard.
It's hard.
Hope they can get it I I hope they can make ithappen, like, next year or something like that.
But it's What what they do so far is, an event,and you and you put on events yourself.
Man, that's a lot of work to put on an eventand all the stuff that they do And it needs it

(01:01:52):
needs the Like, you need financial support fromyou know, and other kinds of support from
vendors in order to do that from the firearmsindustry because it's not it's not easy to do.
It's not easy.
It's not cheap.
I don't think people understand how much goesinto it, man.
It's it's a lot to have it going on.
But I know a break's coming up, then I'll talkabout the quick things we're trying to learn

(01:02:12):
then.
Yeah.
We'll be right back.
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Alright.
Yeah.
And then
so the last thing, speaking of events, is thatwe are we wrapped up year six of training
launch.
So training launch is still good and strong.
I am fortunate and blessed to say that, youknow, sold out year over year, and we'll be we
moved it to Atlanta now for Okay.
Obvious reason.
We moved it down to Atlanta.

(01:03:17):
So it will be here May 2026.
It's already on northerchoice.com, so it'salready up there.
But it's it's big, man.
We brought in a lot of a lot of good peoplewith a ton of information to help the second
amendment community be better at the the art ofbusiness and and grow and even survive this
slump that we're in.
We had a lot of conversations about that.

(01:03:37):
So I I really I'm I'm blessed to be in aposition to help, and I'm glad train and learn
has continued to help do its part to strengthenand educate the second amendment community.
So you can find out more about that atnortherchoice.com/trainandlearn.
You can read all about what it is.
You just have to be in the business of what wedo some way, somehow, something.

(01:03:58):
Let me
Hey.
That's
the filter,
and I'll put in your email address.
Wait.
Hold on.
So here you go.
Train and learn.
I'm trying to go right to train and learn.
I'm trying to go right to train and learn.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Sure you are.
You already have my email address.
Come on now.
Oh, I know.
I'm gonna add you to the list without your to.

(01:04:20):
Okay.
That's fine.
That's fine.
I love that.
You I hereby bequeath my permission to you.
Okay.
Cool.
I don't know if Walter or Patrick have anyquestions on that.
There's probably a bunch of stuff we haven'tsince we haven't talked in a while.
Do you guys wanna talk Well, actually, here,let me get some comments from people real
quick, but we can also talk about stuff goingon because there's a lot of stuff going on.

(01:04:43):
We did take Labor Day off, so let me see.
J grew wants to know if Kevin still makes thoseawesome pistols.
Kevin?
Oh, the the true pistols, no.
Unfortunately, j grew one.
Thank you for the compliment to the true seriesof guns.
No.
That was a one time run with that handgun.
We, unfortunately, moved all the units, andthat was that was that was that was it.

(01:05:10):
For now.
You never know.
You never know.
You might you know, who knows what you do inthe future.
But I won't be able pull it down.
I might
have something else in the works.
Okay.
Very cool.
And then Nitrain says, please ask KD if he'sdone if he does or has done any type of
security work.
Yes.
I did EP work and security details aboutsixteen years.

(01:05:32):
Yeah.
And and before you moved out to Atlanta, whatwere you what were you doing?
Were you, like because I see in the back of mymind, I think you were doing some kind of
government contract
stuff.
But paper.
When I when
we say contract, it was like like papercontract.
Like
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what I was thinking.
So what you were helping people, like, getcontracts with the government?

(01:05:53):
Or
No.
My job was to negotiate via with the Departmentof Defense via a a defense contractor and just
intermediate.
So my job is to negotiate the the warfightermachines.
Right?
So it's a intermediary between the Departmentof Defense and a defense contractor that's
gonna provide it.
So what I focused on a lot was various jets,JDM bombs.

(01:06:17):
We also worked on some stuff dealing with theApaches, not too much stuff, but a lot dealing
with the Apaches, stealth programs that were,you know, stuff that was under wraps with the
DOD.
So long story short, we made sure that the boysand girls that were war fighters had what they
needed.
Right?
I had to make sure the vendors got everything.
If we had AOGs, which is aircrafts on ground,we got us our parts immediately, get that war

(01:06:41):
machine back up in the air.
But that's that's all I did was yell at peopleall day and spend taxpayer money.
Oh, okay.
So were you on the side of the of the DOD,which I think now is, like is it DOW now?
Were you on that side or were you on thecontractors?
Department
of War.
Yeah.
We're Department of War now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.

(01:07:02):
No.
That would that I would never encounter or haveto deal with what I did because I wasn't a US
government employee.
I would just work with the US government.
Okay.
But I would never, in my position, I would belucky to directly talk.
I mean, super fortunate to even directly talkwith an admiral.
Luckily, normally, there is somebody myequivalent as far as security level and GS

(01:07:24):
status that I will be talking to.
Right?
And then they would send it up their chain ofcommand, and I would send it
up my chain of command.
Right?
But, like, talking to somebody like Pete hassaid, I would I would never be in a room to
have a conversation with them.
Oh, okay.
Alright.
I wouldn't
know what's happening for you.
Yeah.
I was just wondering, like, you know, what ifwe develop some like, for ex just as an
example, this is a what if.

(01:07:45):
Let's say we developed ass missiles.
Okay?
And we wanna sell ass missiles to thegovernment.
Can you help us out, Katie?
Do you have some
I I I do give consulting advice to people thatare look looking
to do
RFQs and RPs for government contracts.

(01:08:06):
I can get you
because this is a lot of paperwork.
I mean, no.
I'm not even kidding.
That's a lot of paperwork to do.
Right?
It it is.
This is not and then you got you got you gotjerks like me that are sitting on the other end
of it once you get past the machine, which isthe computer.
So I literally just mean machine.
Once you get past that and then you get peoplelike me that are gonna still gonna call you and
be like, yo.
Alright.

(01:08:26):
I like 30,000 of them.
What's the best price you can get?
And then I steal because of you know, itdepends on, like, if we trip Tina.
Right?
Truth and negotiation act.
If I if I trip that, then you have to gothrough an RP or RFQ unless you're a sole
proprietor.
Then I have to justify why you're that.
If not, you have to go through the biddingprocess.
We have to do a best value evaluation on you.

(01:08:48):
You still have to go out and compete.
And even when you win that, I'm still gonnacome back and say, I want it quicker.
I want better quality, and I want it thecheapest you can make.
Right?
And then that's why I always laugh whensomebody says, one is military quality.
I'm like, you probably don't wanna know whatmilitary quality is.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm
curious Cheap as quick as you can get ismilitary quality.

(01:09:09):
MILSPEC.
Military.
Yeah.
So why does everyone think that MILSPEC is soawesome?
Marketing.
And who would think that you would give warfighter stuff that wasn't top tier?
Like, why would you do that?
Yeah.
But
That is
because that's how the government works.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, what is the thing about that?
The least

(01:09:30):
We we tend not to skip out on from my view.
Right?
From my view, the only thing we tend not toskip out on very specific are war jets.
We won't skimp on those.
And boats.
Yeah.
It's it's it's it's those are so vital thatit's like, alright.
Even if you have to move money from part of thebudget now that also depends on how old it is.

(01:09:56):
Because if it has, like if it's got teen in itsname, then it's probably gonna get some it'll
get some from a old Buick that'll make a runrate.
Right?
But you start talking about those those some ofthe new the late fifth and potentially sixth
gen fighters.
Don't let me get me started with some of thatstuff.

(01:10:17):
Those things are you will be stunned at whatyour government spends on a pack of scoops.
Yeah.
Oh, I've seen yeah.
I mean, we've seen the news articles and stufflike that.
What do you guys think about the wholeDepartment of War thing?
I'll start with, like, Walter and Patrick.
Do you guys have an opinion on that, Patrick?

(01:10:37):
We talked about it a little bit, I think,yesterday or Dave, whenever we talked.
It it's just we're going back to I think it wasit was originally called.
It was Department of War.
Yeah.
Yes.
Until 1947.
Yeah.
When it first started up.
Yeah.
When when did they end that in after World Wartwo?
That was '47.
Okay.
'47.
Yes.

(01:10:57):
We we kind of have pussified ourselves to makeI I think this is like the whole modernization
type of thing where we're like, oh, we're notwe're not barbarians.
We can't call it the Department of War, whereit's like, no.
That's what their job is.
That's that's they're they're war fighters thatwe we want them to kill.
Everybody.
Yep.
So I know it doesn't bother me.

(01:11:18):
The idea of collateral damage and the idea ofof this and that and the other and tippy toe
and dropping bombs in a in a one meter squarearea, when you're getting you're getting fire
from the whole neighborhood,
you
just
take the neighborhood out, in my opinion.
I don't care about the
Mhmm.
I mean, I mean,
that might sound that might that might soundbrutal, and that might sound all the stuff, but

(01:11:40):
we've gotten the point when when people say,well, we can't win that war.
Well, you never really really really triedhard.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think that's a little bit of a differentthing, but I agree with you.
If you go to war, you wanna go to war Actually,the best thing is to never go to war because
places don't wanna go to war with you.
Yes.
They fear you.
Look.
Look.
Yeah.

(01:12:00):
Trump's first time around came in with theTaliban, a month fucking Taliban was done.
Mhmm.
And they killed thousands of when during Obama,they Obama let them kill thousands of
Christians in The Middle East there.
Thousands Back to the Department of War,though.
I think it's fine.
I think it's per perfect.
No.

(01:12:20):
That's what I was saying.
So, like okay.
To me, I don't know, Katie, where you come downon this.
I don't care one way or the other.
I'm fine with it being department of war ordepartment of defense.
I don't care what you call it.
Just the, you know, it's the same thing.
Announce that I I I listened to Hicksf's, youknow, press conference in the Oval.
Mhmm.
And I listened to it, and I watched it.

(01:12:42):
I'm looking at facial expressions.
I like history.
So when, you know, the historical component ofwhat it was called, you know, that that kind of
stuff always is intriguing to me.
And Mhmm.
When it was all done and you asked me, like,okay.
What's your emotional response to this?
It's like, well, if it whether it says defenseof war, they're gonna still kill people.

(01:13:02):
I don't care.
I'm not emotional about it.
Like, it doesn't matter.
One sounds more aggressive, sure, but whatever.
I don't care.
Like, I'm not gonna all of a sudden, need toargue about there are so many other things to
argue about.
And Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
I do disagree with this administration aboutwhat they're doing in a lot of areas.
I damn sure don't care about you saying defenseor war.

(01:13:24):
I don't Yeah.
It doesn't mean it.
It's just the But also,
I think I think when Patrick asked me aboutthis, because you're right, we did speak about
this over the weekend, like, I personally feela lot of I I voted for Trump three times, you
know.
I'm I'm actually pretty happy with Trump.
Most of There's some things he's doing that Ithink is a 100% bullshit.
But Right.

(01:13:44):
Part of, like, some To me, it's something thatfeels like it's funny, and it I don't know.
This is a weird thing.
It's a good thing and a bad thing.
Cause, know, they're kind of like doing thesepress conferences every day, which with Biden,
I don't know how many press conferences we gotin the whole time.
Yeah.
But I feel like they're I I feel like they'relooking for stuff to talk about, though.
I feel like they're, oh, you know what weshould talk about today?

(01:14:06):
Let's switch the name of this from, DOD to DOW.
Part of it kinda part of it does feel likestaying active in the news cycle is a it's
something that they're actively trying to do.
Like, they're always trying to have somethingin the news, and I'm not sure exactly why that
is.
But, yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah.
But the the problem with that is if you'realways doing it, some of the stuff you're doing

(01:14:30):
is kinda bullshit, or it sounds like you'rejust Yeah.
Like, making up some things to do today.
You know?
I don't I don't have a problem with them.
You know?
It's it's at this point, we and we've all livedthrough enough political cycles in our
lifetimes.
Right?
Mhmm.
They got they they're gonna use the machinesthey have in front of them to influence, stay
in our ears, stay in our vision, keep ustalking, going back to school, whatever tool

(01:14:53):
they have of the day.
Here's what I find interesting, how easilypeople are distracted and with this
administration in particular.
And I look.
Like I say, I don't have a left or right side.
I am about what's best for this country,period.
Right?
And so when I I look at some of the stuff he'sdoing, it's like, cool.
I could care less about you changing the name,dude.
Change the name all you want.

(01:15:14):
Like, I department of bombs.
I whatever.
You're gonna do the same damn job.
I don't care.
Right?
Now when it comes to stuff that he isn't owningup to don't get me started with the Epstein
files.
Right?
Oh oh, gotcha.
Talking about Oh.
What they what they did.
They so they took it it gets into some nuance,but in general, they took some funding from,

(01:15:35):
you know, PBS.
Right?
Then they wanna go to PragerU to replace someof the educational programming.
Okay?
On the on the face of it, it doesn't sound bad.
Right?
PragerU is self funded.
They don't need a bunch of money.
And if they do, maybe they get it on the backend.
Whatever.
I don't know the financials of it.
I just know what they said up front.
Right?
I haven't deep dived into the story.
What I don't like, though, and it's not and Iunderstand people know that I talk a lot about

(01:16:01):
various things in this country to include thestruggles of African American people.
I've talked about Indians.
I've talked about white guys.
I've talked about it all.
Take all that away.
None of that matters.
Just history.
Pure factual history.
Don't put a color to it.
Don't put anything to it.
Just pure factual history.
I do not like the fact that they are usingcartoons to rewrite factual history.

(01:16:26):
Don't know.
Who's use who's using cartoons?
Well, if you look at some of the PragerU
Oh, PragerU.
Okay.
They have coming out that the administrationapproved to come out and replace Mhmm.
PBS.
They there
is I haven't looked into any of that yet.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
Christopher Columbus, saw all over social mediawhere the the the character, they're all
cartoons, where Christopher Columbus is, like,validating coming to America, doing the

(01:16:51):
historical thing we know we did, and even tothe point to where they said, well, slavery was
a good thing because at least we fed them.
I can't imagine that.
No.
Dude, it's like, come
on, man.
And, like I'm
not I'm not even into Christopher Columbus.
I know people are, and I don't care if peopleare.
It's all good to me, but I think I don't thinkthat much of Christopher Columbus.

(01:17:12):
Bit of a terrorist asshole who didn't discovershit.
Well, let's just be honest about history, man.
It's not it's just factual history.
Right?
Mhmm.
But I don't like rewriting it.
Like, if you're thinking like PBS is trying toinfluence the kids with all the different
sexual orientation stuff and Mhmm.
All that.
Okay.
You wanna get rid of that and it's your money?
That well, it's taxpayers' money.

(01:17:32):
It's our money.
But you don't wanna divert the money to themanymore, right, for programming you disagree
with?
Mhmm.
Fine.
I'm I'm okay.
Yeah.
But history should be history.
Yeah.
But history should be history.
Right.
Yeah.
But don't replace it with something that's justas bad.
Right?
If I wanna have a conversation with historyabout you, I am going to be as factual and

(01:17:53):
straightforward as I can be.
I don't like us rewriting history.
And what I think it does for the administrationoverall, and I'm very Mhmm.
Not emotional about it, but one of thestereotypes is, let's you know?
And I'm pretty sure most of us will agree ordisagree.
But one of the stereotypes is it's, you know,white supremacist administration, right, with
some of the things that have been said behindin the front of camera and all that.

(01:18:16):
From you mean that Trump is a white supremacistadministration?
The the
administration overall is about whitesupremacy.
I'm just talking about the stereotype that'sout there.
Right?
Okay.
Mhmm.
You don't help defeat that image by using acartoon to rewrite history.
Like and that's what you wanna push the kids.
It's like if you're gonna tell it, I just askthat you tell it rightfully, and then you

(01:18:39):
couple that with the well, what they're doingin the Smithsonian.
And I get it.
The people in the Smith were going a littlelittle too far left, if you will.
I get it.
I get it.
Alright.
We gotta have some balance to things.
Okay?
But the balance should always be the truth.
Yeah.
Right?
You don't get to hide history.
Tell the truth.
When people were getting upset because hestarted renaming the army bases, you know, back

(01:19:01):
after, you know, confederate generals, I'mlike, guys, if that person I get why you're
upset, but if that person factually existed,and this used to be the factual name, I can
disagree with it all I want.
But it's it's history.
Yeah.
It's I mean, it's the it's the same thing withthe statues.
Whether I like whoever those statues were or Idon't like them, tearing down a statue erases

(01:19:24):
it from history.
Like, leave the statue there.
That let people ask questions questions aboutabout it, it.
And, And, yes, let the information be whateverthe information is when we look at it, but,
like, why get rid of history?
That was the history.
You know what I'm saying?
And there part of the history of America isslavery, but that's the history of the world.
And I don't think there's anything wrong withhaving a discussion about what America's role

(01:19:48):
was in it, but it's the history of the worldfor sure.
Right?
As long as you are having a historicallyaccurate conversation, I have been through far
too much to get emotional about it, but youhave to be honest.
But America in general, and I think this isjust an American concept, and I say this all
the time.
I think I love black culture.
Flat out, dude.
But I'll also, when you love somebody, you tellthe truth too.

(01:20:08):
Right?
Like Mhmm.
Well, you can't.
You tell them.
Yeah.
Your breath stinks.
Right?
It is what it is.
Right?
Still love.
And one thing that America's bad with when itcomes to just that component, like, even the
conversation around slavery for whatever reasonyou're having it.
Even when it comes to that component ofconversation, yeah, we will say things like all
over the world, great, and then we'redismissive about it because we played a part in
it.

(01:20:28):
But people in America still get teary eyed overthe Holocaust because we were the superhero in
that story, the villain in this one, thesuperhero in that one.
And so but we don't talk about I've never heardsomebody say, hey, Jewish people.
Don't talk about the Holocaust.
There were genocides all over the world.
Right?
And it's because of the way that we viewourselves in the story.
So I'm not asking anybody not to state afactual thing.

(01:20:51):
Because if you say, hey.
They're on every continent on this planet.
There has been a form of indentured servitudeor slavery.
You were speaking facts.
Yeah.
There's still places where that still exists.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Were speaking yeah.
You were speaking facts.
So and so whatever conversation we're having,we're just having a factual conversation.
Right?
It's changing ideas, talking But about I thinkwhen we get to the point to where we start

(01:21:14):
altering is where I have a problem.
Like, when we start altering and misguidingfrom the truth.
It'll be no different, like, when we tell ourinvolvement in the world wars.
Right?
Like, when we're we're educating the kids abouthow America got pulled into the world war, damn
it.
I want my I wanna know the truth.
Like, the raw factual truth.

(01:21:34):
Why do we get into the wars?
I wanna know everything from the financialincentives to why we what were we truly doing.
Like, look at this now, man.
We're we're all old enough.
Right?
When we first went into Desert Storm well,you'll probably know this better than me.
Desert Storm kicked off in what?
'91?
In the '8 in the Yeah.
Early eighties.
Yeah.
No.
It was, like, '91.
Yeah.
Yeah.
'91?
Yeah.
Late eighties.

(01:21:54):
Early nineties.
I think.
I could look it up.
But I think it was late eighties, earlynineties.
Like
It was nineties.
Not eighties.
Not not not due with eighties.
Yeah.
It's so I was
I was was on I was on my honeymoon when theywere getting ready to do that.
So Yeah.
That was in 1990 or '91.
So
The only reason I'm saying that, because I knowa lot of my friends I went to high school with

(01:22:17):
yeah.
08/02/1990.
Okay.
So '90.
So that when that kicked off, after we hadyears of that and I know we got a break coming
up.
After we had years of that, we are all oldenough, and then you add in the the GWAC.
Right?
Later connected, like, by decades.
When you add all this together, we're all oldenough to remember at least the conversation
of, ain't about no damn waters about that oil.

(01:22:38):
Right?
Like, at least the conversation is out there.
Well, if
that turns out to be factual in thirty yearsand we can prove that, I want that to be part
of the documentation.
Well, we're fighting we're fighting some warsfor some some places that don't wanna fight
those wars themselves.
Yeah.
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Alright.
So listen, there's a couple things I don'twanna like not I don't wanna like abruptly cut
that.
You you were mentioning the part where you saidthat PragerU was talking about like slavery
being good or something some People This alwaysbecomes a thing where people try to say, oh,

(01:23:48):
this was like a good thing.
Now, it's a That's a, like, a weird thing tosay because it's kind of true depending on how
you look at it, but it's kind of not true.
So you have to understand the perspective ofthat.
Right?
So, like, you're a descendant of slaves, so amI, right, from The Caribbean.
I Like, ultimately, if that adds to yourgenetics, do you regret it or want to undo it

(01:24:12):
or something like that?
You know, in my case, no.
Like, whatever history was, there's always alot of bad things that happen in history.
I don't necessarily wanna undo it, but I thinkit's it's never a good thing to enslave people.
I am not gonna, you know, I'm never gonnasupport human beings being enslaved.
Not just me.
I don't wanna be a slave.

(01:24:33):
This is why I believe in guns, but I'm notgonna support anyone being enslaved because,
oh, this might lead to a good place.
But the fact of the the, like, the history ofthe world is we all are who we are because
everybody enslaved everyone.
True.
Now the only challenge to that is this, justfrom the general conversation standpoint.
Like Mhmm.
Factually, there's there's nothing inaccurateabout what you just said.

(01:24:54):
Mhmm.
There's nothing.
Right?
There's nothing inaccurate about what you justsaid.
I think this is where that that particularknow, and I'm this is just a a microcosm of the
bigger conversation that happens about beingaccurate, historical context.
But in that particular thing, and it's justtrue, you can say that in a conversation very
chill, very relaxed just like you just did.
Right?
Like, hey.
Hey, guys.

(01:25:14):
Yeah.
But with America, it's always a yeah, but whenit comes to slavery.
Mhmm.
But if we start talking about the holocaust, itbecomes, oh, that was horrible.
That's the bad thing about him.
Not big enough.
There
have been genocides all over the world.
No.
No.
No.

(01:25:34):
I no.
I'm agreeing with you, KD, but the holocaust,yes, is a more touch it's a a hot button
subject.
Right.
But I wonder why.
This is this is my point.
Because America
is the hero in the story.
Kevin, I disagree with you, Kevin.
I think the reason why is because I thinkcertain folks like to make it a big thing, and

(01:25:56):
they are are in charge of a lot of stuff.
It has been the Holocaust in this country viathe governments and the states and the federal
government have institutionalized theHolocaust.
They In Florida, it's actually illegal to ifyou start badmouthing certain things, you can
end up in a lot
of Yeah.

(01:26:18):
We have a we have a law now that you can'tYeah.
As a company or a city, if you want a contractwith the government, you can't boycott Israel
here in Florida.
And Florida.
Interesting.
And you're saying
heard that.
Yep.
Mhmm.
I I I I don't get all that.
You know, I I think there's a lot of things toit.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that there is a level ofinstitutionalization to that Yeah.

(01:26:41):
That I definitely don't agree with, and I goback to the same thing.
I think the holocaust was terrible, shouldn'thave happened, it did happen.
Need to remember that it happened to never letit happen again, but there are different
holocausts that are still taking place.
Cambodia.
Cambodia.
On the face of the planet.
Yes.
Even when you look here

(01:27:01):
I'm gonna say this, and I'm not gonna probablybe liked at all, Sutton, but slavery is over in
this country.
And a lot of people can't get past slavery.
And they think somehow because some weresomeone got toted someplace against their will,
and everybody has, including every Europeansand Irish and everybody else, they still think

(01:27:24):
that's their excuse for everything.
And I think
And I got news for you.
I don't give two fucks I think that is a aboutit anymore.
I think that is a microcosm of people.
And just like anything negative that representsany group of people, right, you're gonna take
the negative person of that group
and Yeah.
Amplify their voice.
Right?

(01:27:45):
Will tell you this from somebody that's been incivil rights conversations for pretty much all
my adult life.
It's really about there are people that and I'mnot one because I don't know enough about it to
be one.
I'm not a person that goes reparations becauseI've researched it.
I know more than most, but you have to do a lotof financial forensics to really validate that

(01:28:06):
claim.
Right?
And I'm just I'm more about freedom.
How do we not repeat stuff?
I'm not worried about collecting the the check.
This is not my focus.
Right?
Yeah.
I think about Right.
How do not repeat stuff?
So when when I think for a lot of individuals,they get frustrated just like you, I get
frustrated.
Because when pick mainstream media outlet,they're putting somebody up there to have a a
contextual conversation, so to speak, aboutindentured servitude of slavery, and then all

(01:28:31):
of a sudden, it's the victim, oh, me, oh, my.
I like to discuss it, and I think most peopledo, from just a historical factual
conversation.
And if I can pull something in black and white,like, literature that I say, you see how they
put this law on the books?
You see how this law still exists?
And I can connect the dots for you.
Then we're talking about the system systemicchange that needs to happen that never got

(01:28:53):
addressed.
But as far as the people that are like, oh, me.
Oh, my.
I tell folks all the time.
Here's my very simple response to that, whichis why I don't do the crime, and I do the let's
learn history, let's talk about it.
Right?
Just like I'll talk about seventeen seventysix, I'll talk about the 1600.
I like history, period.
Right?
However, when you start getting into the Ithink for most individuals, when you start

(01:29:16):
getting into the old people you're addressing,Walt, like the they want the the victim
mentality type
of that someone owes you something
Man, look.
And those people are generations long dead
I don't know nobody.
Nothing.
To put me in chains and watch how many shots Iput in your pocket crane.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
I Listen.
I I have to I

(01:29:38):
just sit back and and and you know, and I thatand that's why I think we adapt the the spirit
of really, America in that sense.
Right?
America is supposed to be this this kind ofrebel thought.
Right?
Like, freedom is freedom is the
line.
Mhmm.
And once you start taking that from me, we gota problem.
Right?
Yeah.
And I think general general concept of it.

(01:29:59):
So I do think that and with everything, it'sand it's no different, and I'm gonna be very
careful about this because I'm not trying toget, like, all of us disappear.
Okay?
But it's the same way that when you have aconversation about the Gaza conflict now.
Right?
Like, there are some people that will come outand they say certain things to make their side

(01:30:20):
look a certain way that is very it's the sameessence in the conversation that Walt was
addressing.
It's it it its core, it's active and current,yes, because, you know, we know one thing is
over, one thing might be currently happening.
But those people put out an essence ofconversation that also taps into what you would
consider, hey.
We need this because we are the victims.

(01:30:40):
We need that because, hey.
We are the victims.
And I think it leaves everybody in a place of,you know what?
Can we just address the real issue?
What are we here actually talking about?
Right?
What's the end goal?
What what's the thing that's really holding youback?
That's the that's you know, is is it your is ityour your your attitude that somebody owes you

(01:31:01):
something that's holding you back?
Why don't you just get past that and go forwardinstead of sitting there and not just but
there's a machine.
There's a money machine that runs with thispass too.
So
Yeah.
I think there's machine I think there'smachines in lots of different ways and I think
we ignore a lot of times the Like, there'sdifferent machines here.
So, for example, in all these different things,there's machines stoking us in America in

(01:31:27):
different directions, and and it's not comingfrom America.
So in some cases, have the rush like, Russiansare pushing certain things Yeah.
Over The Chinese are pushing certain thingsover One of the things that's real weird to me
that I see is that there's a lot of, like, SEOaround What Is it black fatigue?

(01:31:48):
You could tell me if
I'm Yeah.
That to me is what some of the most annoyingshit in the world.
Now, for sure, I'm a black dude and I knowthere's some ghetto ass black people, but just
going back to to what you said, you know, Idon't think Everyone's not the same and we're
not monolithic, and we would definitely notmove forward in America if every black person

(01:32:08):
was stuck on slavery.
Right?
So, we I mean, we would not be moving forward.
It would it would This would This would be allout anarchy.
So, I don't think everyone's going in thatdirection.
But this It's the same to me, a very similarthing with the whole black fatigue thing.
For sure, there's some ghetto ass black peopledoing things, but I feel like there's people
pushing that particular narrative, and thenthere's other people who are picking it up

(01:32:31):
like, yeah.
I'm sick and tired of these black people.
Who who do you think those people are, Hank?
That are pushing that pushing.
There are black people that are pushing theblack fatigue thing too because
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It gets
it gets them it gets them numbers.
Yeah.
Yes.
A 100%.
Ad split grip, and they'll call themselvesblack conservatives.

(01:32:53):
What I which I think does a horrible thing forthe conservative movement.
Right?
If you're gonna call yourself a blackconservative first of all, conservatives are
supposed to be the party that say they don'tsee color and they value people for who they
are.
So why the hell are you putting a a qualifierin front of the fact that you're a
conservative?
That's why.
You shouldn't be doing that.
Well, that's what what and that's like callingyourself a black American.
You aren't just American?
Come on.
To to a degree, and I would agree with that.

(01:33:15):
I love having that discussion too.
I I American or
No.
I think black yeah.
Black American is not so bad.
African American is the is the kinda kicker forme.
I don't consider myself African.
Even in that, you have people that now areidentifying as FTAs.
Right?
Foundational black Americans.
So Oh my god.
I never even heard of that.
I've never heard of that.

(01:33:35):
Is is from America.
Right?
So
Mhmm.
There are all kinda people that identify as allkind of things.
I would tell people I am proud of my heritage.
Mhmm.
I am proud to be a black man, and I'll alwaysstand on it.
Always.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Everybody should be proud of who they are.
Tell people that when I go to let's say I go toAustralia.
Right?
When I'm in Australia, it's not that I'm blacknow, it's that I'm proud to be an American.

(01:33:59):
Mhmm.
Right?
Right.
So it all depends on where I'm at.
If I go to Russia, same thing.
If I go to China, same thing.
It's American.
Right?
It's if you like me or or hate me, it ain'tbecause of the color of my skin at that point.
It's probably because of the way that talk.
Yeah.
Right?
But at the same time, there's nothing wrongwith people being, like, American of black
heritage or even of slavery heritage No.

(01:34:19):
Here in America.
Just like it's not there's nothing wrong withsomeone being proud of being their of their
Italian heritage or Not at all.
Their Jewish heritage or Scottish or anythinglike that.
You know?
Because
well, you're for you're forgive me if I'mincorrect.
You're Polish.
Correct?
There's some of that.
Some
the Russian.

(01:34:40):
My father was born in Ukraine.
So Yeah.
Okay.
Alright.
My mother my mother's bunch came from Europe Imean, England and all that area over there.
So
yeah.
Mhmm.
Yeah.
And I I would say that those and that's what Imean.
So this is what I like, even these kind ofconversations, this is what I tell people,
like, this is what the machine is scared of.
Like, if we're all exchanging ideas, even whilebabyface both said, hey.

(01:35:02):
I disagree with you.
I didn't start yelling.
Now if this was a mainstream media or a bigYouTube stream, guess what?
Of us none of us ever agreed with each other a100%.
And they
And I disagree on I don't remember what Idisagree on.
Right.
And I I don't think most people were actuallylike that.
I think they highlight the individuals that farbecause then it asked, like, this this
amplification, the unneeded amplification tothe conversation.

(01:35:25):
So for me, I think every single human being youdon't have to be proud of, like, everything
your family, your individual family.
Right?
You might really hate that you got a couple ofdrunk You might hate that, you know, a couple
of generations ago, they squandered some familyassets.
Right?
You might hate to find out that granddadactually stole the deed to the form that you

(01:35:45):
guys got because mister William got drunk andhe forced him to sign it without his knowledge
or whatever.
Right?
You might find out things about your familyyou're not happy with, but you still love your
family.
And you're still proud to be from that familyin many cases.
So for me, it's like for me, it's dual.
I am extremely proud, to be who I am, to lookhow I look, and I will have those conversations

(01:36:06):
against anybody that wants to deprive me of thefreedom to say so.
But at the same time, if Paul says I'm proud ofmy heritage and where my family come from,
instead of me being offended by that, I'm gonnaask him if we got the time, where do
you from?
Yeah.
Like, I really wanna know, like, what you guysdo?
Like I think that's what makes us interestingthat we're not all the same.
Human beings cool.
Like, I had a conversation with one guy for agun class one time, and he's a big dude, like,

(01:36:29):
really big, like, stout white guy.
And I'm like, man and I just looked at him andsaid, what are you?
Because he he just looked into me.
Were you thinking to yourself, where do theymake big white dudes like this?
Yeah.
Like, where like, where are you from?
From?
In the country.
Corn
fed.
If
you trace my family history back Uh-huh.
You know, five or six generations, we are all,like, legit, like, Nordic Vikings.

(01:36:54):
Okay.
Yeah.
That'll do it.
You're a damn Viking?
And I was so interested.
Like, I'm like, I don't and I start asking him,like, so are the shows accurate?
Right?
Because he's he's He's in the middle of theknow.
Yeah.
Like, he would actually know something that.
All those
interesting things.
Even even getting into some conversations, man,I was having a conversation with an Italian
buddy of mine.
Right?
And we were cracking some jokes.

(01:37:16):
And, you know, when cameras go off, you mightcrack some, you know, rather insensitive but
funny to you jokes.
Right?
Why why you're with your Right?
And he said to me and I didn't know this.
He was like, do you know why your nose isround?
Mhmm.
I was like, first of all, let me get my myphone out and look at my damn nose because now
I'm conscious about my nose.

(01:37:36):
Right?
I'm like, no?
Why?
He's like, well and he started going into, youknow, the genetics of, you know, people from
the continent of Africa, how we had to take indense air and all the different things we have
to filter that are in the environment.
Right?
And he's like, well, do you know why my nose ispointy?
He's like, yeah.
The air is thinner, thus we needed a betterfilter.
And he went all into the long conversation.

(01:37:57):
I'm like, man, if you that was a coolconversation to have.
Right?
And, like, if you can't be balanced in yournuance, be balanced in your conversation, I
think most people will be screaming at camerasfor the rest of their lives and be miserable
because I can stand 10 toes down on what Ibelieve in, absolutely stand on it, absolutely
preach it, and at the same time, give everyother human being and individual a chance to

(01:38:19):
disagree with me and a chance to tell me theirstory because I wanna know.
Mhmm.
Hey, Kevin.
Yeah.
Well You
know, I got a you know, I got a big hit?
A big hit?
Oh my god.
Big hit.
A big hit.
No.
Why?
Because I
because I'm part Cro Magnon.
That's why.
Yeah.
Didn't even let hate to make the joke.
I mean, you've heard of

(01:38:39):
the missing link.
Right.
So, you know, a fluke I I mean, this is seriousif go ahead.
Real quick.
Do you know do you know how many problems willbe solved if people turn the fucking TV off and
just stop watching
the news
and listening to, like, the talking heads?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Shit.
A lot
so yes.
Absolutely.
I think so.
So okay.

(01:39:00):
Let me just do this just for the sake of Iwanna I wanna anyways.
Yeah.
I wanna get onto some subjects.
So I put up, prosecuting burning of theAmerican flag.
Right?
So I'm very interested in what you guys thinkabout this.
Let me start with Patrick.
Go ahead, Patrick.
Give me your thoughts on this is a this is aTrump administration push to do this, to to
lock up people.
I personally have never been angry enough atthis country to burn the American flag, but it

(01:39:25):
is a protected first amendment guaranteedright.
And I might find it distasteful, but you areallowed to do it.
Okay.
Alright.
Well, I'm gonna there.
I'm stop there.
Yes.
Yeah.
No buts.
No.
No.
That's cool.
No.
That's cool.
Okay.
Let me ask Walter.
Walter, what do you think about it?
Them So Trump the Trump administration came outand said they're gonna start locking up people

(01:39:47):
who burn the flag.
Pretty much what Patrick said is gonna be hardto prosecute.
This has all been through the courts already.
I don't know why they're drumming all this shitup again.
This has all been decided long time ago.
This this was another one.
I don't know why I don't know why they aregoing down this path because it's a unifier for
almost everybody.

(01:40:07):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, no.
No.
So I just kind of agree with Patrick.
Yeah.
Katie, what do you think on this subject?
I don't know if you
I'm I'm right with them, man.
It's a it's a protected right.
I personally
No.
I'm not.
Flag burn.
I personally would not do it, and I personallywouldn't stand there and Yeah.
I see someone burning the flag, I hate that.
I

(01:40:28):
don't want it.
It Personally, I don't want any parts Right?
But it is you're right.
Yeah.
It's protected.
Go ahead.
The most I will agree with when it comes toflag disrespect is if you think shit's going
bad, you fly it upside down.
That's a known thing.
Yeah.

(01:40:49):
Listen, I'm telling you, I get a visceraleffect to seeing people, burning the flag.
I remember one time Lola was just about toleave here to go to work and we saw something
and she was like, what the You know, she hadlike a visceral effect to that.
But at the same time, you know, we've coveredWe've like covered this in America.
The supreme court has, covered this.
It's protected under speech.

(01:41:10):
But I hate those people but I don't think we'regonna get accomplish anything by going out
there and locking people up, but we can stillhate them.
You know?
Actually, American flag upside down on a gun.
Interesting.
Hold on.
Let me go full screen on you on that one.
Hold on.
Let me Was that
on was that on purpose or accident?
On purpose.
Okay.
Yeah.
And what was what was the reasoning behindthat, K?

(01:41:32):
The the whole the whole point behind thisconcept was the fact that our freedoms are
constantly being shipped away.
This represent obviously, the firearmrepresenting our freedoms in this country.
They're they're always being shipped away byyour favorite political party.
Right?
One legislation piece of paper at a time.
And I went into the story about how I just wantto live up under the freedom that the

(01:41:55):
constitution promises me.
And the more and more that they attack ourfreedom to include these things, the more we're
in distress and Americans are being fed a bunchof BS to make them fat and lazy, and they don't
wanna be politically active.
And we are in distress, and nobody is payingattention.
So that's why
I put
Alright.
Cool.
What's bread and circuses?

(01:42:17):
Is that
what's the famous
bread and circuses?
It's you keep them distracted with breadcircuses and then
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
So I mean, I think a lot that's what a lot ofthis is.
There's a lot of stuff that's genuinelyhappening in the world.
Right?
But a lot of what we're seeing is just stuff todistract us in lots of different ways and to

(01:42:37):
get us mad and fighting about that instead ofdealing with things that are important.
And that's where, like, I think either Patrickor Walter or both of them said this.
Like, I don't understand why Trump is making ita thing.
Yes.
It sucks.
It's bullshit that people out there, you know,choose to protest by burning the flag, but I
don't know why that's a thing when we got othershit to deal with.
You know?

(01:42:57):
Why deal why deal with something that hasalready been settled?
And I would not like it if Biden decided, youknow, to to go against our I mean, of course,
he did.
In next when he whatever.
Against rights that we, are all about.
In the next segment, we need to talk about theanti Antifa.
The trans the trans gun ban that they'retalking about.

(01:43:19):
Yeah.
Yes.
Well, yeah.
That was my that was my intention.
That's the
exact Okay.
Alright.
That is the exact next thing that we're gonnatalk about.
Hold on, Walter.
Don't say anything.
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(01:44:06):
You see what I have to deal with, Kevin Dixie?
I know
you I know you heard that behind the scenes.
See how see
how it just ends up probably?
I'm never fixing it now.
Yeah.
And we're gonna we are gonna talk about we'regonna show some guns.
Okay.
But this is what you're talking So, now, theTrump DOJ is looking at ways to ban transgender
Americans from owning guns.

(01:44:27):
I'll This is coming from, I think, in the lastOh, man.
Can I stretch it back two years?
I think we've seen maybe a lot of people whoare somewhere in the middle of transitioning or
may you know, going one way or the other thathave done things.
So, the solution from the Trump administrationis we're gonna ban people who are transgender

(01:44:49):
from owning guns.
What do you guys think?
Who wants to jump on this first?
I'll go.
Walter?
Okay.
Go.
Okay.
This is not a good idea.
There actually, if you read the forty fourseventy three, it mentions stuff about mental
illness on the forty four seventy three.
Okay.
And a lot of transgender stuff is mentalillness.

(01:45:13):
But you're not gonna gain anything.
You look.
I Yeah.
We can't predetermine that how where that's atwhen someone buys a gun.
You you might show up and look like dude today,and tomorrow, you might decide to be
transgender, I guess, or whatever that means.
Mhmm.
I I don't think that's the problem so much asyou know, most of these people that have done

(01:45:35):
these things have been on the radar fromsomebody at some time.
And they they're known they're a a known thing,but nothing happens.
You know?
And it's like, how do you stop how do you stopsomebody from just all of a sudden snapping the
next day?
And he's one day, I'm nice and I'm Walt.
Next day, I'm I'm you know, I'm like Only ifyou have precrime.
These were self correcting problems back whenthe constitution was written.

(01:46:00):
If the dude the crazy dude in town was actingcrazy, y'all
They put him in the they put him away.
Yes.
You didn't just let him run around and pretendhe was a woman.
No.
And we don't we don't have any putting away nomore because everybody's got rights.
So right?
Right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Alright.
Alright.
Cool.
Cool.
No.
I just wanna get every I wanna get I wanna geteveryone's take on it before we, like, get deep

(01:46:22):
into it.
Patrick, do you wanna give your take on whetheror not agree with
100% think that the second amendment is forevery god given person under this well, in this
country.
But as an o seven zero two, that does not meanthat I have to facilitate the transfer of guns
to fucking anyone.
And if I choose not to, that's my prerogative.
Okay.

(01:46:43):
Alright.
Cool.
That's very true.
It is.
It is.
KD, you got thoughts on this?
Yeah.
I I feel I feel this way.
Once you start allowing one group to getattacked, who's the next group?
Mhmm.
Well, well, that that's part of it too.
Yes.
Mhmm.
Yes.
Mhmm.
Right?
So Mhmm.
We because we always have the the crazy thingabout moving the goalpost is that we will feel

(01:47:05):
there are valid reasons now, I e, plug inmental illness, and then what's gonna be the
valid reason for the next group.
Right?
And America used the media to get that thatreason validated, and then what's the reason
for the next group?
So for me, it is it is it's everybody's got agiven right.
I could disagree with a lot of crap that youdo.
That's a different kind of conversation.

(01:47:27):
But when it comes to your right to protectyourself, your right to, you know, enjoy
freedom, who the hell am I to take that fromyou?
And that's just how I feel.
And I think, also, it's a very dangerous thing.
This isn't the four of us having aconversation, and we don't have any legislative
power, and we're talking about doing it.
We like, Babyface can say, I don't wannatransfer guns to people with pink hats on or

(01:47:49):
blue hats or orange hats.
Right?
Mhmm.
I'm a I'm a FFL s o t o seven zero two as wellnow.
I don't I I have it for different reasons, butI could say the same thing just like walk can,
just like you can.
I think it ought to say that, but that's nottaking people's freedom away.
When the federal when the federal governmentsays, I want to pass a law targeting a group of

(01:48:10):
people, right, whether we agree with theirchoices or not, targeting a group of people
might It's very dangerous slippery slope we'regoing.
Yeah.
Who's who's next?
Right?
And you know who I think will be next, to betotally honest with you?
I think I think the next one's gonna be they'regonna say anyone who has more than one gun is
crazy.
We don't we won't we're not giving you.
I'm gonna think that.

(01:48:31):
I think if you go because, you know, we wealways set president for one administration or
one court the next.
Right?
Mhmm.
I honestly believe this.
If we let this slippery slope go, there will bea couple small minority groups that get caught
up in the middle.
But I think the next big group, when we get ademocratic president, is going to be white men.
White men with honest wrong opinions that canbe called domestic terrorists.

(01:48:55):
I promise
you, I think Man, they would they would hateme.
Well, didn't they already try to classifyveterans of of war as, like, we we need to slow
these guys down.
I don't
know if they went I I I think this is one ofthe things I don't know why Trump
administration's doing it.
I don't you know, for sure, we can Interesting.
Go ahead.

(01:49:15):
The most interesting thing that's happening,and I I wanna see how far it goes is this is
causing folks on the left to choose one of tworeally crazy things, transgenderism or gun
rights, which typically are two divergingpaths.

(01:49:36):
It's causing people to go now it's together.
So that's just it's interesting.
They shouldn't they should not be connected.
Yeah.
It should not be it should not be connected.
I think that
Now now I don't think this is some sort of fourd chess thing.
I I I I don't think they're that clever.
I think this is I I don't know why the reasonis for this, but This is a it's just a clever
reaction.

(01:49:56):
Yeah.
I think human beings have human beings have theright to defend themselves.
Again
Right?
This is one of those inalienable rights thatpeople have and that's the way that we look
that we need to look it.
Right?
Now My other my other strong opinion is Trumpis not a gun guy.
Trump is not a second amendment advocate.
Trump doesn't really give a shit about second
amendment.

(01:50:16):
Not at all.
I would agree with that.
Yeah.
I would agree
with that.
Is this any different than what the what theleft does every time there was incident?
The first
thing they do is say, let's ban this or
Ban assault rifles.
Yeah.
Or like I'm saying, I mean, I remember, like, Ithink it was Eminem, you know, who said, like,
why does someone need more than why did someoneneed a 100 guns?
So the idea I'm telling you, people might notthink that that's gonna happen, but there's

(01:50:41):
gonna come a time when they'll go, oh, thispeople don't need this many guns.
Have Certain tried that, banning Mhmm.
Purchases per month.
You can only have two firearms a month or somedumb shit like that.
Yeah.
Did any any of you see the brain surgeons inChicago when they had their news conference
with the governor and everything?
No.

(01:51:01):
About what?
No.
About troops or something?
About Trump coming into Chicago and the but thebig takeaway, the whole thing they believe is
gun violence.
What are we
gonna do And it's always guns from some otherstate.
These gun traffickers from Indiana andMississippi and I I can And I I can And all I
was thinking was, well, it's it's your owncitizens of the gun trafficker.

(01:51:23):
So what are you gonna do to your zoo?
There are so many Glock switches in Chicagothat I'm I'm
I think the easy solution for places like NewYork, Chicago, etcetera, that have these issues
is let the the people who live in your statehave access to firearms that they're supposed
to have and that was guaranteed in theconstitution and Again, we then because you you

(01:51:47):
can't control who's the good guy or the bad guyin a situation, but you can allow a person to
defend themselves.
And and that person's right is gonna level outa lot of shit.
Go ahead.
Back in constitutional times, if somebodystarted acting squirrely, they get chased right
out of town.
You just go, we ain't dealing with this.
We don't want this.
And But I found a tree
and a rope.

(01:52:07):
The folks in
Chicago don't have the opportunity to go chase
some places
out of town anymore.
So I think, like you were when before, I'm nottrying to bring up the Cybertruck again, but
just to bring it back up.
Oh, my god.
When Right.
When you were when you were talk Hold on asecond.
When you were talking about, because you saidyou had a friend who went somewhere and someone
was going after him.

(01:52:27):
Yeah.
Even though even though we had some of thathere in Florida, you do not see people trying
to accost people in Florida because of what carthey're driving.
Yeah.
It is a polite society.
Yeah.
That's where I'm getting at.
I had a woman
I had a woman years and years and years agoroad rage on me out in public.
Mhmm.

(01:52:47):
And I rolled my window down and was like, whatthe fuck is your problem, lady?
Like, what is wrong with you?
And she talked herself in circles for a couplemoments and then finally was like, you should
be careful rolling your window down.
You don't know who has a gun.
And I was like, I didn't say anything, but Iwas like, bitch, I ain't got a gun.
I'm the one with the fucking gun.
Maybe she had one too.
Who knows?
You know?

(01:53:08):
I don't even know why people get into the wholeframe of road rage.
Oh, it happens here even in Florida.
But
She was fucking mad.
What do you mean
it happens there even in Florida?
Florida is road rage.
Hell.
It happens.
That's you know what?
You know what, Kevin?
Because all these
nut fuckers come down here from up north.
That's why.
Not all the New Yorkers and New Yorkers aredown.

(01:53:30):
I don't know.
I'm as a as a person who learned how to drivein New York, I am one of the best drivers.
People in Florida don't know how to drive is mypersonal opinion.
When when you're living Florida is a state thatwas giving people their driver's license
online, and you know why they stopped doing it?
So in other words, your driving test andeverything was done online.
Don't ask me how.

(01:53:50):
Basically, there was no driving test.
You got on the Internet and you said you candrive, and they gave you a driver's license.
You know why they stopped it?
Why?
Because all those mofos were dying.
All the people, they could look and see, oh,all these people we gave a driver's license to,
half of them are dead.
Maybe we should stop that.
So, you know, yeah, I get it.

(01:54:13):
But, you know, just I'm to just sticking up forNew Yorkers.
I think we know how to drive in differentPeople in Florida are so used to what they
think is good weather that they don't know howto drive in inclement, you know, inclement
weather.
That's just my opinion.
I'm just sticking up for the New Yorkers outthere.
But, yeah, I I think this is this is a kind ofa silly thing.

(01:54:34):
This is not gonna stand up anywhere eitherbecause this stuff is all Yeah.
Passed out already kind of, sort of.
Yeah.
And there are people in general, like, so a lotof this is reactive to human beings who become
broken and then decide they're gonna go outthere and destroy other human beings.
It has
no solutions to that.
Like, if you know these people are broken,there's there is a pathway to dealing with

(01:54:58):
that, but also in that moment, because anyonecould break and snap.
People need the ability to defend themselves.
The the problem I think the main problem hereis we've gotten certain folks have gotten to
where they think transgenderism is not asymptom of something deeper.

(01:55:19):
It's just, oh, that's just who they are.
Oh, that's just Instead of instead of We reallyneed to keep an eye on this guy because this
isn't normal, and it's not healthy and I Ithink that's that's part of but, again,
government one second minute is not the rightanswer.
Yeah.
The government's one of the biggestfacilitators of all this.
Yeah.
I think
that we've always had, not just in America butthroughout history, people who you can put them

(01:55:45):
in the category of being transgender.
Okay?
There it is.
What what we have now what we have now is isthis thing where there's a lot of younger
people out there trying to
be cool.
A coach, this is what it is.
It's some sort of weird, like, I need to smokethe cigarettes too type of thing.
It's it's it's turned into an institutional.
Yeah.
It's weird. The
The past, you in the past, even hospitals,etcetera, didn't help you do this until you

(01:56:11):
were a certain age, and then they had certainsteps that people went through before this
happened.
And now we're in a situation where people aredoing this to their own children, which is
child abuse in my personal opinion.
Yes.
A lot of young people are going through this,and then when, you know, when you pump someone
up full of drugs that's the opposite of the thechemicals that are supposed to be going through

(01:56:32):
their body, and then they try to come off ofthat and go back the other way or even just
being on that, you create all these issues andwe are not dealing with that properly and not
Here's question I have for Take that
you and Kevin, since both of y'all had boys ofthe generation where this has become an
epidemic, what the hell did we do to young mento cause this nightmare

(01:56:55):
feel like they're not young men, like they'reguilty, like they need to pay reparations.
That's what you've done to
them.
Uh-huh.
And they don't owe Mhmm.
They don't owe nobody nothing.
They don't owe the women nothing.
They don't owe nobody nothing.
I think I feel like society tried to do that.
I'm not gonna speak for Kevin, but in my part,society might have tried to do that, but I
raised my children.
So, you know, they're they're men they're menat this point.

(01:57:18):
Any kids.
So Yeah.
But there's you know, I raised my kids, and Iraised them in a certain way, and and I was
there, and, you know, and Lola was there, andwe, you know, we contributed what we could do.
Now, in the end, no matter what you do to raiseyour children, there's people out there who
have bad children.
We all know this.

(01:57:39):
Right?
And things can go go wrong.
So, I'm not gonna say a 100% it was me, but Iknow that I made steps to be in my kids' lives
for lots of different reasons.
I I don't I I don't wanna say I was afraid ofthat, but
Do you have
any You know.
Any take on why young men have fallen so hard?

(01:57:59):
I think that this is my opinion.
I just Oh, I'm sorry.
This is for Kevin.
Sorry.
Go ahead, Kevin.
No.
It's Kevin.
Oh, sorry, Kevin.
I think I think for the first part of your yourfirst question, Pete, I I think for me, man, I
just set the best example of what a man is,right, daily.
Right?
Not saying I'm perfect, but he saw dad get upand, you know, use Greenwood, for example.

(01:58:22):
He would see me get up, and even though he'sout of the the door at seven, I'm right I'm out
the door at 06:55.
I will come back dirty, sweaty, right, take ashower, be on a show on a like, I'm working.
And then even the way that I take care of thewomen around him.
Right?
His mom and wife.
It's being an example of a man and what thatlooks like and what that feels like and giving

(01:58:43):
him something I hope he wanted to, you know,stand on and do better than instead of and and
then also having very open conversations aboutthis is what the world is feeding you.
This is what reality is and staying on top ofthat.
But giving him a a a space to come say, hey.
What's this?
Where he can speak unfiltered and we can have areal conversation.
As far as what the world has done to young men,this is what I personally believe.

(01:59:07):
If you wanna destroy a nation, take out the manfirst.
Period.
And so I think it's about the different groupsthat have I don't think it's like a one
conspiracy thing.
I think it's a bunch of different mindsets nowthat have been given the authority because of
social media, really, because it's a avenuethat reaches every phone into a lot of

(01:59:27):
oppressional people
Yeah.
This is don't
know where they wanna go in life, and theythey're feeding it, and the algorithm is giving
it to them all the time.
And all of a sudden, it's like, well, if thefour of us all run different organizations.
We haven't conspired necessarily.
We might not even know each other.
But our end goal is to get the people that arestopping our missions out of our way.

(01:59:49):
We're all using these vehicles to do it, andnext thing you know, there's a consorted
effort.
Once we discover each other.
There's a consorted effort to say, well, if wewanna take control of things, let's start with
the man the man in the house.
You can look at America like that, and you canstart breaking America down I mean segments.
Same thing.
This goes back to me, and we're gonna get waytoo in the weeds here, but this goes back to, I

(02:00:13):
think, and I'm the white man, but I think thisis what broke up black families.
Like, this is what what led us to where we arewith gang violence is removing men from the
household of black families back in the fiftiesand sixties.
And I and I just have another revelation latelywith seeing all the EBT queens on the Internet.
Oh god.
EBT and that digital money that's handed outevery month is another thing that's destroying

(02:00:37):
not only not only black families, but whitefamilies too, because there's more white people
on EBT than there is on black.
Mhmm.
But that that I saw so many
I never worked.
I never had a job.
I don't know what I'd do if I had to
go work.
And it's like, what are
you fucking Yeah.
But you know what?
There's I I think that it that's partially theissue, but because a temptation exists in the

(02:00:58):
world doesn't mean you have to partake in it.
But you
can And I think some part of that people haveto be stronger and say, like, it's a choice you
make.
I understand exactly what you're saying.
There's there's people who I know that they'relike to like a man and a woman together, they
have a baby, but they don't co they don't,like, cohabitate or even try to get married or
anything because they want to be on welfare.

(02:01:20):
That's a choice
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That someone's making to partake in that drugthat I will not make that choice.
And that are people who make those choices todo those things.
That that reads that.
And the next generation sees that, and theysay, oh, fuck.
I wanna do the same thing.
Yeah.
It's so bizarre.
Like Yeah.
But then I I now with that, you guys are youguys are talking about the symptoms.

(02:01:42):
Right?
Mhmm.
And I understand the disease.
Right?
So in a very simple way, because I'm not gonnaargue with the symptom being is.
Right?
But when you when you get to understanding,like, really quick, you know, edge let's start
with it.
Education is important.
Right?
I'm not talking collegiate.
I mean, just
being journalists.
It's important.
If you are depriving tax dollars to pay foreducational system like we do in all the

(02:02:06):
neighborhoods, right, take federal funding outthe equation.
Right?
Your your schools are funded by the taxdollars.
Right?
Mhmm.
Well, if I can keep this group of people,right, not working, thus they're making less
income or no income, and then I could take themen and make them criminals?
Because you gotta remember, even the thirteenthamendment doesn't say even slavery, for
example, is over.

(02:02:26):
It says you could be a slave if I can convictyou of a crime.
Right.
Is it?
Correct.
Yeah.
A 100%.
Even when you still look at the targeting goingand you look at the the the factories and
things that are being put in thoseneighborhoods, they need a labor force.
You start talking about the rich and thepoliticians working together to get a labor
force.
All these different things that coincide,they're not educating them.
So even if the baby mama is not a criminal perse, now she's looking at low education and

(02:02:51):
going, I could go out and make say I'm livingin the Midwest, and I can go out and I can make
working full time 38,000 a year.
Right?
And I'm gonna take care of these this one kidat 38,000 a year.
Or I could sit on my ass, just make sure Idon't let this man live in this house with me,

(02:03:14):
And I might only bring in on paper 15,000 ayear.
Right?
But guess what?
What's my rent now?
Right?
I'm a
You ain't
got no rent.
She's sex and eight.
I just can't.
I I can't.
Think it's that I think it's that and it'sattention.
You know?
We also live in a world currently where evenbefore this started happening, there were women

(02:03:37):
that would you know, your butt's not bigenough.
Okay.
Put some implants in there.
Get attention.
So, eventually, you will see young men andyoung women going, oh, I'm not I'm not getting
enough attention being a woman.
Maybe I should be a man.
I'll get more attention.
I'm not getting enough attention being a man.
Maybe I should be a woman.
Maybe you know, I get more attention, and it'seasy or something you know, it's an easy thing

(02:03:58):
to do.
That's fine.
But the government shouldn't be paying for it.
You should be nobody should be paying for it.
If if if he wants to turn himself into a freakshow, then he should pay for it.
Yeah.
We are dealing with I I do personally believethat we're dealing with a lot of It's a fad.
I do believe it's a fad, like you were saying.
It's a fad, but I think there's a lot of Well,I'm younger than y'all by a little bit, but I

(02:04:24):
didn't raise kids in this period of like, I wasalready an adult and I didn't have any friends
or siblings that were young enough to be inthis period of crazy.
I'm just absolute absolute crazy.
But from when I was younger, there does feellike there is an attack on boys for sure of of
masculinity is evil.
And that's kind of what I think.

(02:04:45):
And and I'm gonna define a little bit as anattack on white males.
Alright.
Let's just talk a little deeper.
So
because, yeah, Tray Tray they never see the younever see black trannies.
They're very, very rare.
Very rare.
White white What?
Christian, man.
It needs to be even more specific.
Right.
Shingle schools or the white ones, Hank?
Oh, well.
Okay.

(02:05:06):
I mean, there there there's tranny everythingif you look deep enough.
I'm sure
go to Asheville if you go to Asheville, NorthCarolina, as my friend Brad said Jesus Christ.
He another thing he said too, he's never seenso many transsexuals at one place was in
Asheville, North Carolina.
And it was shocking, he said, how many peoplewalking
around street.
Walter, I I I'll tell you off off stream, butMarley and I were there two years ago or three

(02:05:27):
years ago, and I I didn't I refused to get outof the car.
Yeah.
She wanted to go shopping, I like, I'm notgetting out of this fucking car.
Oh.
And
Yeah.
And so that's I mean, whatever.
Yeah.
I don't care.
You know, I really don't care, but I don'twanna pay for it.
Yeah.
There's a lot of things So is Asheville I I Iknow we don't have enough time to talk about
it.
Did wanna show some guns.

(02:05:48):
Is that is that where this thing happened thatthis guy, murdered this young Ukrainian chick?
Is that I think that is what No.
Charlotte, North Carolina.
Oh, no.
Charlotte.
Okay.
That's in Charlotte.
Yeah.
Well, that guy needs to go straight to therope.
So See, again again, this was a
saw real quick clips of what happened?
They they won't show the whole video.

(02:06:08):
So he see her.
He sat behind her
I don't wanna see for a while,
and then pulled the knife out and stuck her inthe jugular and walked off.
Yeah.
It was a quick random act of violence is whatit was.
100% quick random act of violence.
But
The the horrible thing about that is if youimagine, like, okay, that's there's one thing
watching that young woman that happened to her.

(02:06:30):
We we all have young Like, I have You know, mykids are out there in the world and are
sometimes on public transportation.
You know, my my older son, Raven, lives in LAnow, and the And he He's actually in New York
right now, and it's funny.
When he went to New York, it was like 02:00 inthe morning in LA, and Lola was telling me that
he took the bus.
And I was like,

(02:06:50):
why the hell did he take the bus?
You know?
I was like, I I would've if he didn't have themoney for a freaking Uber, I would've sent it
to him.
Marley used to make fun of me for not wantingto put my back to the door and doing stuff like
that she used to think was weird.
And it's like, no.
It's because of crazy shit like this happens,and and I'm the one with the gun, and I'm the
one that's looking for exits.

(02:07:10):
I'm the prepared crazy one, so I can't have myback to the door.
Yeah.
It's horrible to see something like that, and Ido believe I mean, there's obviously lots of
evidence.
So once that whole, process is done, that guyshould get the death penalty.
I don't know if that happens in North Carolinaor not.
But that's horrible to see.
That's a broken human being that's out there inthe world that's committed a lot of crimes, and

(02:07:34):
we're not doing anything about it.
So you know?
That's that's pretty jacked up.
Yeah.
It's messed up.
I you know what?
I don't know if we have if the folks here whoare hanging out with us want to see guns or if
you guys wanna do it, we can show some gunsbecause we never you know?
I I only brought the MP 40.
Oh, can I show a gun thing?
Yeah.

(02:07:54):
Hold on.
Let me let me hold on.
Let me go to full go ahead, Kevin.
Yep.
Alright.
So this is now this is out of the the frame ofa a a Glock 19 x.
Right?
Mhmm.
But here is the Radian adjustable spring set.
Alright?
And so if nobody ever paid attention to this,I'm just showing you.
So this is me putting pressure on it.
You can see the damn thing visible.

(02:08:15):
Right?
I don't know if this come in clear or not.
Yeah.
As long as you cover your eyes.
Yeah.
You're good.
Mhmm.
Okay.
So now I I just got this in literally today.
I just got this in.
So this is the p b 6,003 from Shot.
Right?
Mhmm.
Now this is a hydraulic buffer system.
Look at that.
Mhmm.
For the Glock.

(02:08:35):
So by hydraulic, there's some kind of fluid inthe system?
Yes.
Hydraulic.
Yes.
Hydraulic.
Two it's gonna give you that hydraulic slowbuffer, and then the spring will take over
afterwards to help with the main recoil.
Interesting.
I mean, you have a shot at that.
So hydraulic resistance, basically.
Right?

(02:08:55):
Yep.
And they're they're calling for reduces well,I'm gonna find out this week, but reduces
recoil motion by 70%.
Interesting.
Interesting.
How many how many many shekels is that?
I've got a lot.
Yeah.
And and it says that it's it's rated to last20,000 rounds.
And this Glock, we'll see.

(02:09:17):
I mean, this gun, even though I'm gonna rereturn this at the end of the year, this
particular platform is seen.
I think we're
What do you mean you're retiring it at the endof the year?
What does what does that mean?
You retire I'm retired at the end of the year.
It's going to a retirement home?
No.
It go it go it's gonna get re re brought backto life, and I'm gonna put it in the site.
And then I'm going
to Oh.
Oh.
Take my next adventure with my next platformfor 2026.

(02:09:39):
I'm gonna be a a Smith and Wesson guy for 2026.
See how that goes.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
I thought by retirement, you mean you were,like, sending it to one of us or something.
No.
Do.
No.
I mean, it's by the end of the year, this gunwill hit 30,000 rounds.
I mean, it's it's pretty beat the hell up.
This gun has beat the hell up.
It's it's done its job.
I'm gonna refresh it, you know, clean it up.
I'm not gonna, like, cerakote or anything andput it up, but it's it's done its job.

(02:10:02):
They just I don't like the way Glocks point.
I don't like the 22 degree.
I just don't.
It's Okay.
Horrible.
I just don't.
Patrick, you had a comment or a question there?
I that thing may or may not exist on the marketyet.
They don't have any pricing on their website,so you might be, like, an early test.
It's already announced.
It's not like you're breaking any
Right.
Stuff, but they don't even have it for sale asfar as I can tell.

(02:10:25):
Interesting.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Walter, did you wanna show off a gun you gotthere?
I could talk quickly about the SKS here.
Let me go full screen on you.
Hold on one sec.
No.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Oh, it did come in.
Midway does have it.
It's a $110.
That's an expensive guy.
Oh, wow.
That's expensive guy.

(02:10:45):
Right?
I got this SKS some at some point years ago, Ipicked up this SKS.
Somebody had deactivated it.
So they drilled a hole bottom of the receiverinto the barrel, welded in a a a bolt.
So I had this thing sitting around.
It's like, do I build it up and just sell it asa deactivated gun for somebody that wants to
make it look like they have an SKS, or do Iwanna reactivate it?

(02:11:09):
So I decided I made the call, and I said I'mgonna reactivate it.
Milled out the weld thing, took out the bolt,got a new barrel from eBay, installed the
barrel, replaced some other parts in the guninside the bolt.
The bolt face that had welded up where thefiring pinhole was, replaced that with one, one
from a Yugoslavian SKS, and it shoots like atop.

(02:11:31):
No.
I mean, it runs just like just like it did.
So, you know, it was just a project to see if Icould do it.
I did.
Very cool.
Cool.
Very cool.
Yeah.
Cool.
I think, Kevin, did you wanna did you have someguns you wanted to show off?
I know you wanted to
show This this this one in particular oh, okay.
I see what you did there, Hank.
Yeah.
This one in particular only because it this

(02:11:52):
one is my my
little face.
Hold on one second.
Hold on.
Let me what are we looking at here?
The zirconate five.
So my
Oh, that looks good.
Oh, yeah.
We gotta show this.
We can't do the show and not show this.
Yeah.
Right.
So this is this one is kinda unique because Igot distracted with the Greenwood project, so
some some stuff had to wait so I can get thatup.

(02:12:13):
But this particular build was, you know, inpart brought to you by Brownells, and we did
some really cool stuff putting it together.
Video will be coming out soon.
However, I was at shop show, and I ran intoWalt, and voila, this happened.
Boom.
It was like, wow.
That's sexy right there.
So this will be a part of the review.

(02:12:33):
I will be covering this and all the things.
But, yeah, this is a beautiful this went onhere.
I even know if you can see the logo there.
I don't know if you can see the inside of theno.
You won't be I won't be able
to grip it.
No.
Not at
at at the logo.
But it is a KES stock.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Very That is very nice.
A beautiful build.
Aimpoint m five, this grenade handle, the mylight sitting on top pressure switch.

(02:12:59):
This is this is my baby.
I just hate the damn safety selector on it.
But we're also gonna turn this thing on fullauto.
So I'm gonna be putting a a pack in this,getting it full auto, and, yeah, then we'll put
the video out.
Oh, nice.
Nice.
Okay.
Once you go full once you go full auto with thek, you'll never go back.
What?
I'm
gonna Oh, hold on.
Hold on, Patrick.
That's one.
Hold on.
Gonna 35 up.

(02:13:20):
Hit them.
You guys got Hold on.
Hold on.
Wait a second.
Hold on, Patrick.
Hold on.
I got Boom.
There we go.
Here
we go.
Tell me.
Y'all got MPFives.
I got MPForties.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
That's that's rather cool.
I'll give you
that.
You
know why I
fell in love with that gun, man?
Mhmm.
I'll tell you.
I fell in love with that gun.
I had never seen one in person.

(02:13:41):
I have seen them in person since, but when Ifell in love with it, it was playing zombies on
Call of Duty.
That's what it makes me think of.
That is what it makes me think of.
There you go.
That is a cool guy.
Yeah.
Very nice.
Did a very
very good job on that.
Very good job.
I'm very proud of my m p 40.
Yeah.
That's what I was gonna say.
He's very, very proud of it.
Very proud of it.
Uh-oh.

(02:14:01):
Hold on.
I'm going to the wrong thing here.
There we go.
Boom.
Oh, but just to show off to you, KD, do youeven know what this gun is?
Do you even know what you're looking at here?
Do you know?
Is that from primary arms?
No.
Uh-uh.
No.
Uh-uh.
Not that No.
No, sir.
No, sir.

(02:14:22):
What is
I'll give you a hint.
It's from Bushmaster.
Oh, the ACR.
Yeah.
It's an ACR.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
It's an
old Bushmaster.
Yes.
Yeah.
You know, just a little just a little bit ofbragging, Katie.
That you know.
Was nice.
I give you that.
That's
nice.
ACR.
You know?
Just do have you know what?
Let me grab it.
I do have a a new
We got a few more minutes for bragging.

(02:14:43):
Anyone who wants to throw up guns.
We got a I got a
Oh, check this out.
Look.
Check this out.
FN.
The five seven?
That's the new five seven.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Think we did a video with this.
We were comparing five seven guns.
Remember?
To the, the What do you call it?
Yeah.
We compared it to the Ruger Yeah.

(02:15:04):
The Rock?
The Rock, some other things, you know, showingthat off.
Okay.
While we're waiting for Oh, let me show youthis.
I did go to Costco in the villages, which wetalked about.
Look at that.
Stacked up on some silver.
Oh.
You know what?
Gold is freaking expensive.
Yeah.
Gold is very expensive.
Gold is very expensive.

(02:15:25):
Silver's been going up, but jeez, the Louise,what is happening to gold, man?
I actually saw gold
in the market.
I actually saw gold in that in that Costco.
Oh, let me make sure.
Katie, this is what I don't know if you're upon this, Katie.
Check that out.
Precious metal.

(02:15:47):
Silver.
Can I get one of those so I can get atransmission?
Okay.
Hold on.
Let's are we going to Walter now?
Hold on.
Let me go to
on real quick, like, real quick.
Okay.
Hold on one second.
I reached underneath the counter and found my ar 10 pistol.

(02:16:07):
This is
Oh, Jesus Christ.
That's a three zero eight.
A r Yeah.
Jesus.
Is this a machine gun?
No.
No.
No.
Oh, okay.
Remember when me and Flying Rich were shootingour guns out
of you?
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
This is this thing is uber obnoxious, but Ibuilt it just because that.
So
Yeah.
No.
The Yeah.
You're not you're not cheek welding that.

(02:16:28):
Well, did you cheek weld it?
I I can't remember.
No.
No.
I don't get my face through that thing.
No way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's yeah.
That's a flamethrower.
Basically, flamethrower right there.
Let's go to KD.
So this is I'm not a new gun per se, but I dolike this.
This is new to me.
So this is a Ruger American Precision with thedead air and Ruger can on the front of it, 30 k

(02:16:54):
l can.
Mhmm.
And chambered in a six five Crete.
Fantastic gun.
So with the Brownells MPO on top of it.
So this is my new MAO, baby.
That'll be very good that'll be very good forsquirrel hunting.
With the god.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With the right
What kind of direct squirrels are you looking
for, sir?
No.

(02:17:15):
That With
with the right loadings
I'm just messing around.
Those things there are, like, sub MOA with goodloadings.
Those are fantastic guns.
He just wants to take the whole door frame off.
That's all
he wants.
My god.
Could you imagine?
Door frame.
This thing, to be obnoxious, like, there was nothere was no rhyme or reason to this.
Let me not pretend like there was a reason.

(02:17:35):
Went back to, like, 50 yards with this thing,which is, like, a yard with a pistol.
Right?
I wanted to, like, 50 yards because I justwanted to shoot it.
And Mhmm.
I was like, alright.
We had a steel plate hanging with a with ametal elephant hanging into the t post.
Mhmm.
And I was ringing the plate just to beobnoxious.
It's like, how loud is a six five Mhmm.
Mhmm.
At this range?
I just wanted to see.

(02:17:56):
Right?
Like, no.
Just wanted to have fun.
And then I was like, oh, you know what I wannado?
I wonder if I could break the trunk of theelephant to make the plate.
Oh.
Mhmm.
So just to see how strong it was.
And it took me one shot, and I mean, it hitwhen it hit it, I mean, the plate just dropped,
and it's just like six five.
It's just an awesome beast.
I it is.

(02:18:16):
I think five.
Very flat.
Some training at a mile, and I was shooting attwo two sixty rim.
And I was hitting.
I'm watching the bullet trails real cool.
And we're out there.
We're running the shit out of guns.
We're actually training.
We're not just shooting.
We're we're running through a training class.
And I'm out there with Buck Doyle and a bunchof dudes.
And, actually, I was next in the war when we'reout there doing this.

(02:18:38):
And Oh, cool.
He was running a three zero eight.
I was running the two sixty Ram, and the dudeto my left was running two guys were running
six fives.
And so you hear the two sixty Ram go, ding.
Very ding.
Right?
Three zero eight is kinda like, That fuck.
The six five?
Yeah.
So I was

(02:18:58):
like, whatever.
Yes.
That.
I want that.
That is what I want.
And I was happy to actually show up and get asix five.
And this can, if you haven't tried out the cansfrom the new Ruger Dead cans, these cans are
pretty pretty freaking legit.
They're pretty I'm not a guy I don't have themachine to measure it.
Wait.
It's a combo it's a com collaboration withRuger and Dead Air?

(02:19:19):
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Cool.
I like Dead Air stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dead Air is very nice stuff.
Alright.
There you go.
So we did show some guns for anyone who wantsto complain that we didn't show any guns.
I do wanna send a big shout out to everyonethat's been hanging out with us the whole show
here.
Really do appreciate you guys.
I think that it was it to me, it's been greathaving, Katie back here on the show.

(02:19:43):
We gotta do this again.
You know, fun the time went really fast.
Fun conversation.
You know, we could have really flexed some gunshere if we really wanted to go.
You wanna see the I did retire a gun, though,if you really wanna see a gun that I retired.
Okay.
What did you ret was it handgun?
Right now to show you.
I know I only got a few minutes.
I am opening the safe.

(02:20:04):
Oh.
Never The retire the ret the retirement's safe.
So yeah.
I actually, I retired two guns.
Well, one of them I retired.
One of them I just never let go active.
Mhmm.
I've
never really heard someone talking aboutretiring.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Hold on one second.
You know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Yeah.

(02:20:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I this one broke my heart.
This m 17 has never been fired every day in itslife.
So I am heartbroken that I never got a chance.
I've had it for years.
I've never like a single shot has never comeout of this gun.
And then this boy, I had actually done a lot ofwork too.
Right?

(02:20:44):
From even you can see the the the the slidework, the port
Yeah.
Everything I've done
I think you've shown this on the show beforetoo.
Back in
Yeah.
Before I finished everything on it.
I just got it done a couple months ago.
Sarah Coat, the whole nine yards, and I wasready to make it my 2026 platform.
And for obvious reasons, you know, there's aconversation out about out there about these.

(02:21:04):
Mhmm.
And so I have officially retired.
That's why you don't see a optic on it or alight.
Mhmm.
It's officially been retired until Okay.
We get things sorted out.
And while the baby face engineers, we ain't gottime today, but I'll be really interested to
know Mhmm.
What the hell people think is really happeningwith these guns.
They're probably
We'll
have to we'll have
to chat about it next time.
Okay.
I
put in my serial number on the website, and itsaid they were just fine.

(02:21:27):
I should be good to know.
Go.
But
Oh, what is there gonna be a recall actually onthe p three twenties?
On the 03/20?
Yeah.
I don't think SIG ain't I
don't see it.
Yeah.
I don't think
there's gonna be
I don't think anything
SIG ain't doing shit.
Nothing's gonna happen with
that, my friend.
They got they got because that guy was killed,they got redeemed.
So Yeah.
Because, yeah, someone someone I I haven't evenreally followed up.

(02:21:51):
I know that that wasn't an accidental dischargewith the It wasn't
an accident.
Was that air force?
Yeah.
I think it was Yeah.
I think that was air force that I have
there with
be try maybe they charge they got withmanslaughter?
I think so.
I think so.
So if anything, SIG is gonna be suing somepeople.
That's what you'll see before you see any kindof recalls.
SIG will go after some people for that.

(02:22:12):
So Alright.
Listen.
Let's wrap it up here.
We're way over the time.
It's been fun.
I'm gonna give everyone a chance to let youknow how you can follow them, support them, and
everything.
I'm gonna start with Babyface P.
How can the people support you out there, sir?
Youtube.com/babyfacep, instagram babyfacep, orchromevandiumarms.
Listen, we have I'm not gonna lie.

(02:22:34):
I have a backlog.
I'm I'm about two months out.
But if you wanna get in that queue, now is nota bad time.
You call me up.
I'm happy to do an
I just got my sick p three twenty back fromyou.
But I broke it.
I broke it.
It was
your own stupid way they design it.
So that's why I broke it.
No.
We have a couple listeners out there who havesent in projects.
Mhmm.
Let's see if I can't say names.

(02:22:55):
Mister g three, your g three will be gettingworked on here this week.
And then I have a I think I have an AK foranother customer that's gonna get getting
worked on
Oh, cool.
Next
week.
Maybe when Kevin decides to do his dictator AK,you can be the one to put the I can
build it.
We'll find somebody that can gold plate it,though.

(02:23:15):
Yeah.
Alright.
Yeah.
I know what
you're Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Walter, how can the people follow you, supportyou, etcetera?
They can follow us on Safety Hire Farms onYouTube, Facebook, Instagram, a little bit of
rumble.
Mhmm.
The remains of player, I guess, if it's stillup there somewhere.
I don't know what it's going.
Mhmm.
And it's And then
Get going.

(02:23:35):
Then there's Turfood Racing, the minibikestuff.
You can check that out, the same avenues,Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, a little bit of
rumble.
And then, Sten Parts.
Don't forget about all Sten Parts.
If you're a Sten Parts needs, that's Sten Partson Instagram or the website and a telephone
number.
Yeah.
Alright.
Very cool.
KD?
The real NLC on YouTube.

(02:23:56):
I'm actually starting to put up some YouTubecontent.
We had about 30 videos in the queue ready tocome out this year, so follow us over there.
You'll also be able to catch that content onWeTheFree.
You'll be able to catch us over there on theGuns Out Network and Real NLC on all your
platforms.
I'm most active on Instagram and then followingYouTube.
So reach out.
Catch you.
Awesome.
Big thanks to everyone for coming in.

(02:24:17):
Good seeing you, Kevin.
We'll see all you guys.
We are out of here.
We will see you guys the next time on the show.
We're out.
Peace.
Let me go hit the buttons here.
Hold on a second.
Gotta go gotta go hit the buttons.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
Here we go.
Okay.
And then what is the other

(02:24:39):
Christ.
There
we go.
This is so painful.
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