With Love And Justice For All

With Love And Justice For All

As founders of project_SANCTUS, Rev. Kelly Isola and Rev. Ogun Holder are committed to creating a safe, brave, online space to be our holiest selves together. This includes addressing the one thing that affects all of us, that has been responsible for much of the pain, inequality, and injustice in our country: systemic racism. On WITH LOVE AND JUSTICE FOR ALL Kelly and Ogun have conversations around embodied antiracism, dismantling oppression, fostering liberation, and the special challenges that arise for spiritual seekers. Join them in this challenging spiritual work of healing and transformation, and create a world of love, justice and liberation. Learn more at projectsanctus.com


May 23, 2023 50 mins

We return to exploring some headlines you might have missed, like the AP's year-long report on how racial health disparities have harmed generations of Black Americans, travel advisories for the USA and Florida, and more. Visit projectsanctus.com to learn more and to make a donation.

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Last month, Somerville, MA became the first city in the United States to extend legal protections against discrimination to people in polyamorous relationships and other nontraditional family structures. We talk with lawyers Heron Greenesmith and Andy Izenson from The Polyamory Legal Advocacy Coalition (PLAC) who were both instrumental in the passage of the ordinances. 

Learn more about PLAC at https://polyamorylegal.org/

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May 10, 2023 73 mins

It might be our spiciest episode yet! As part of our ongoing series for International Masturbation Month, we talk about masturbation (sometimes in graphic detail), healing sexual shame, and how sexual self-touch is a vehicle for justice and liberation. To support this podcast with a donation please visit projectsanctus.com

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May is International Masturbation Month. All month long we will be having conversations around touch, self-pleasure, sex, sexuality, relationships, and more. On this episode we warm up with a conversation on non-sexual touch, why it's important to touch ourselves, and how our tagline "Let's Get Our Holy On!" is related to it all. To learn more about us and make a donation visit projectsanctus.com

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April 28, 2023 50 mins

Revs Kelly and Ogun talk about the ongoing war on trans people, British reparations, some Republicans coming to their senses, and other headlines you might have missed. (Please ignore Rev Ogun's confident declaration that it's Ep.89)

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April 25, 2023 69 mins

Revs Kelly and Ogun discuss the invention and history of white people, the difference between white people and whiteness, and the harm whiteness causes today in its current iteration: American exceptionalism.

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April 21, 2023 62 mins

Kelly and ogun talk about marijuana justice, AI racism, the good old days of lynching, and some other headlines you might have missed. Visit projectsanctus.com to learn more and support the podcast.

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April 18, 2023 55 mins

Revs Kelly and Ogun talk about the shooting of Black 16-year-old Ralph Yarl when he rang the door bell of the wrong house by its 85-year-old white owner, and the likely internalized white supremacy and white identity norms that caused it. For more info and ways to support us visit projectsanctus.com

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Revs Kelly and Ogun are joined by Rev Derrick Weston to continue their discussion on Climate Justice. ​Derrick Weston is a writer, filmmaker, podcaster, speaker, and Theological Education and Training Coordinator for Creation Justice Ministries. He is the co-host of the Food and Faith podcast and producer of Spoon, Spade, and Soul, a podcast highlighting food and land-based ministries in the Episcopal church. He is also the produce...

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As Earth Day approaches it's a good time to talk again about the connections between Climate Justice and Racial Justice, as well as some daily action steps to help save the planet. To learn more about our work and to make a donation visit projectsanctus.com

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Revs Kelly and Ogun talk about The Tennessee Three, the never-ending double-standard for Black women, good and bad news for trans folks, as well as other headlines you might have missed. For more info and to make a donation visit projectsanctus.com

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April 4, 2023 57 mins

Revs Kelly and Ogun return from a break with the first episode of Season 3. They talk about some of the joys and struggles from their time off, preview some upcoming happenings, and briefly discuss Trump's indictment and arraignment. 

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Dr. Joel Brown joins our season two finale to talk his recent publication "The Souls of Queer Folk: How Understanding LGBTQ+ Culture Can Transform Your Leadership Practice."

Dr. Brown is the Chief Visionary Officer of Pneumos, LLC. He works strategically with a variety of organizations, including non-profits, Fortune 500 companies, churches, and institutions of higher learning to build consciousness, capacity, community, and collec...

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February 17, 2023 52 mins

We take a look at 10 Black women Innovators and the awesome things they brought us plus a few Black History Heroes you may never have heard of.




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February 14, 2023 76 mins

Recorded on Valentine's Day, we talk about the capitalist, patriarchal, mono-normative expectations around love, the holiday, and relationships in general. We discuss alternatives to these cultural norms, and considerations for decolonizing relationships regardless of what kind being practiced.

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Author and wellness activist Kerri Kelly joins our 8:46 Book Club on the final night of our exploration of her book "American Detox: The Myth of Wellness and How We Can Truly Heal."

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We're joined by community organizer and wellness activist Kerri Kelly. She is the author of American Detox: The Myth of Wellness and How We Can Truly Heal and the founder of CTZNWELL, a movement that is democratizing wellbeing for all.

She works diligently to dismantle oppression within herself and the systems and culture she is a part of. She works in support and solidarity with BIPOC leaders and organizations to explore how to wo...

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Just in time for Black History Month the College Board strips down Its A.P. curriculum for African American Studies, a neo-Nazi homeschool network is uncovered, and we recognize World Hijab Day, plus other headlines you might have missed.




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Both the traditional and New Thought Christian message of Self-Love come with implied directives of individualism, isolation, and rejection of parts of ourselves, especially our bodies. On this episode we take a look at how loving ourselves is an opportunity for deconstruction, with embodied practices to help us return home.

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January 27, 2023 54 mins

Florida bans AP African American studies class, International Holocaust Memorial Day, Black killer cops, and other headlines you might have missed. Learn more about project_SANCTUS at www.projectsanctus.com

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