Israel - Qatar, Middle East Relations, and Charlie Kirk - America Divided

I discuss Israel, thier relationship to the USA, and how thier current actions may put U.S.- Middle East relations in jeopardy. I also ask why 250 of our lawmakers and delegates are in Israel right now attending the '50 States One Israel' event. I then dive into the divide that has been wedged between Americans in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's Death.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to Dablaze with George Bontce. This episode, I'm
going to touch on the continued chaos and rhetoric and
further divisive nature of the opposing political parties, those who

(00:25):
feel that they are a part of Team Blue, Team
Red all over Charlie Kirk's assassination. A lot of people
think that they are forensic scientists, that they somehow have
inside info as to what happened. To be quite honest,

(00:46):
I believe this whole thing has been a shit show,
everything from the FBI investigations, from mixed messages from Cash
Bettel himself. We have the guy, we don't have the guy.
The gun that was use. Some people are saying that
when the shooter jumped down from the roof, there's no

(01:06):
way that he had the gun. Others are saying he
broke the gun down. Other people who know this particular
weapon are saying, well, that rifle is not so easy
to break down. And on top of that, why would
he jump off the roof or basically within less than
two minutes two seconds? Whatever is I mean? After the
shot had to run away get out of there, right,

(01:27):
so would take the time to break down this weapon?
Pack it up, run off the roof, run into the woods,
put the weapon back together, and leave it in the
woods to be found reassembled again. More conspiracies, more theories
and whatnot that really are meant to keep you confused,

(01:52):
and to be honest, even what we're getting from the experts,
it's confusing. There's video that has been released by people
who are in the crowds, So this is where we're
solely getting information from bystanders, people who are filming the
event with their cell phones. But yet we're not seeing

(02:12):
the footage from CCTV, from security cameras. This was at
a university, University of Utah or a university in Utah.
And I'll tell you firsthand that I know that every
educational institution from kindergarten all the way up to university

(02:32):
level has a tremendous amount of cameras all over the place.
Yet no footage has been released, at least unreleased of
the public. There were cameras and Charlie Kirks ten immediately,

(02:52):
I mean within the vicinity front row seat, getting everything
that happened. There was a couple of cammers behind him,
one in front of him that was very close that
was manned by an operator. We haven't seen any footage
from those cameras. And in fact, what is fueling the
conspiracies here is immediately after, immediately after shots rang out,

(03:17):
Charlie Kirk slumped over, fell to his death. Those cameras
were packed up, people entered what would be the crime scene,
started taking memorabilia, etc. There was no control, and there's
no way you can tell me there wasn't law enforcement there.
He had his own security detail. And I'm telling you

(03:38):
for a fact that universities have their own actual police force.
And with a person, a person of Charlie Kirk's stature
in terms of popularity and fame, as much as he
wanted to be amongst the people, I guarantee. I guarantee
this or fact because I deal with the universities. When
it comes to large scale events, there is always doesn't

(04:02):
matter if it's a big artist, a very well known
world renowned artist, if it's a poet, a painter, doesn't matter.
There's security. There are meetings regarding the security of these events,
and they're for sure as hell are campus security actually

(04:23):
police officers. So that's the other thing. These campus security
at these universities, higher educational facilities are sworn police officers?
Where were they? Where are the reports from them? It's
getting hard to not call this a conspiracy. Actually put

(04:44):
that into one of my posts on X actually responding
to Owen Schroyer, which I've never really followed before, never
cared to, be quite honest, until his fallout with Alex Jones,
kind of paying attention to him a bit more. He's
a let's just say, he thrives on conspiracy and he

(05:06):
has a lot to a lot of opinions regarding Israel
and the Jews. But in this case, I'm starting to
agree with even him. It's getting harder to not call
this a conspiracy or a cover up. The way this
whole thing has been handled, it's been atrocious and abhorrent,
for sure, And I'm gonna touch on some of that.

(05:31):
Even jd Vance, who was a friend of Charlie Kirk,
took over an episode and hosted Turning Point, and he
had a lot to say, and what he said, which
i'll play later in this episode, I will say that
I personally agree and both disagree with, and we'll get

(05:53):
to that. But the other thing I want to talk about,
and what I'm going to start with that's going to
tie all this together somehow, I don't know how, but
in the end we're going to speak about Israel. And
remember why I just stated earlier that there were these
conspiracies going around that Israel maybe involved, that people are

(06:20):
pointing fingers at Israel when it comes to the assassination
of Charlie Kirk. So I'm not sure that is quite true.
But Israel isn't doing itself any favors and light of
everything that's been happening in Gaza, they just leveled another

(06:44):
section of Gaza, given these these people mirror ten minutes
fifteen minutes to clear out before they launched more bombs,
leveled more buildings, and again, you know, I don't want
to talk about right now specifically what's going on in

(07:06):
Gaza because I have my opinions. My opinions are that
Israel has a ride to hunt down Hamas and end
this terrorist organization. But I've also questioned whether or not
Israel has gone too far. I've also have empathy for
those stuck in the middle who are trapped in what

(07:29):
is considered Palestine, well really Gaza, Gaza Strip because they
can't leave. Israel controls the borders, and the southern border
is controlled by Egypt. Egypt themselves are not even letting
Palestinians or the people of Gaza or Gazins escape or leave.

(07:56):
So on the one hand, we can have asolutely blame
Israel for going too far. On the other we have
Egypt who doesn't want Gazan's to escape and get out
of the Gaza strip because they're in fear of terrorists
sneaking out of Gaza and embedding themselves into Egypt and

(08:19):
causing more trouble, which has happened before in the past.
We also don't see countries like Jordan reaching out their
hand to say listen, we get it. Israel, you want
to take out Hamas, let us take the good people,
the people caught in the middle out and we'll give

(08:40):
them shelter here in Palestine. They're not offering to do
so either. There's a one Arab nation that has actually
stood up to say we will jump in and we're
going to help the people of Gaza, which are being
considered the Palestinians and harboring them and taking them out

(09:02):
of this horrible situation. Now, it also can be argued
that it's not their responsibility that Israel themselves are solely
responsible for what's happening all of this, while Israel is
constantly under attack from other areas by proxies funded by

(09:23):
Iran Hamas, which is supported by Iran, which is what
led to the tensions earlier this year and why the
US got involved to bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities or
the alleged facilities, and since then, Iran has quite a

(09:46):
down as would be expected. So let's talk about what
Israel has done recently that is also well. I mean,
let me just say this makes it harder to stand
in their corner as of late, because they decided, they

(10:12):
decided to take out a Moss leaders in a mission
that in and of itself was not successful and what
they intended to do but did kill a few leaders.
The issue with what they did is where they chose

(10:34):
to strike to eliminate these said targets, and that is
where this whole argument to stand by every single action
Israel does, which I don't believe we should stand by
every single action. And I'm going to point out that
I'm not anti Israel or anti Semitic or anti Jew,

(10:56):
and I don't believe the Jews are behind every single
conspira receive and war within the world, as some people do,
like Stu Peters, or to some extent, maybe even Owen Schweyer.
But I give Owen Scheyer a lot more credit. But
what they did is they launched a strike. They launched

(11:17):
a strike in Dohas City and Cutter. So Doha and
Cutter a sovereign nation, a nation that is also an
ally of the US, by the way, and has been

(11:42):
considered a special ally special non natal ally, just as
Israel is. By the way, Israel decided, we're going to
do what we want to do at all costs, and
we're going to take out Amas no matter where they are.
And so they decided to launch a strike against Hamas

(12:04):
leaders in a building and dau and Cutter, which violates
cutters sovereignty. Israel violated cutters airspace. Israel launched an attack.
Regardless of if it was Hamas or not, we can

(12:27):
consider this to be an attack against Cutter, against Cutter's sovereignty,
against another ally of the United States of America. Cutters
significance in all of this, by the way, just to
give you a little backstories, Israel is not happy with

(12:49):
Cutter for the reason being that Hamas has actually harbored
I wouldn't say harbor more like hosted Hamas or at
least Hamas's political arm. And they've done so. It has
been said since twenty twelve. But what's important here is

(13:12):
it was also at the request of the United States
of America. Now why, Well, the reason why is because
this allowed communication and negotiations a place that we can
call neutral. So Cutter has has become a mediator in
the Middle East between Hamas, Israel, the United States, and

(13:39):
any other nations who have an interest in what's happening
within this conflict. Cutter is considered a mediator. Cutter has
been been hosting Hamas at the requests of the United States. Again,
all done so that there was a neutral ground, neutral

(14:00):
place where negotiations can happen, talks can happen. This is
well known. Israel knows this, but they chose regardless of
the ally status of Cutter, regardless of whether or not
the US themselves are involved, and said, look, we need
neutral place to be able to talk to this body.

(14:23):
These people, Hamas gather terrorists. They are classified as terrorists
by most of everybody in the world except for a
small few, but still we need to be able to talk.
The United States need to be able to talk to
them on neutral brown to be able to negotiate again.

(14:45):
And I know I've said it more than once already
within this short time period, but we need to communicate
with them because Hamas, outside of being designated a terrorist organization,
is also the designated leadership of Gaza. Mossels voted in
as the leading organization, the representative of the people of Gaza.

(15:09):
So while they are extreme, while they are terrorists, they're
also the leaders of Gaza. So yeah, we need to
be able to communicate. Israel needs to be able to communicate.
Any nation in the Middle East needs to be able
to communicate with him. And so Cutter's role was exactly

(15:31):
that of neutral ground supported by the US. Cutter is
an ally of the United States of America, and more significantly,
Cutter is where US Central Command has the largest military
base in the Middle East. It's an extremely strategic base.

(15:56):
It is quite large. We have a huge military presence
there where we provide air support, intelligence, there are operations
that are managed from out of that particular base. And
so Israel's actions, Israel's actions also put the United States

(16:24):
is base presence, having one of the largest militaries in
the Middle East in jeopardy. What's interesting is that Massad,
what is considered the secret well the CIA I guess
of Israel. Masad a very very very well organized institution,

(16:56):
very good at surveillance, very good at intelligence. In fact
a Massad has provided a lot of very very important,
very meaningful intelligence to the United States as well. Assad
themselves had advised against this action of these Hummas leaders.

(17:19):
In Cutter, I think it was originally proposed, I'm open
to correction on this, that it was asked that there
would be a ground operation done to eliminate these Hummas leaders.
Massad said no, that we advise against that. We don't
think that's a good idea for many of the reasons
I mentioned earlier. It's a sovereignation, Cutter. You can't just

(17:45):
go and do whatever you want in terms of military
operations without Cutter's involvement or Cutter's knowledge. And that's the
other caveat to all of this. Cutter didn't know this
was happening. So it seems like even within Israel and
the Israeli government, there were questions asked whether or not
this operation should be carried out because they knew they're

(18:09):
not just attacking a moss or attacking a sovereign nation.
They're talking a nation that is the alle of the
United States, a nation that hosts one of the largest
United States military bases in the Middle East. But yet
net and Yahoo couldn't put hol himself back here's behind it.

(18:30):
And so the strike happened. And now let's just say
the while they're the Arab nations are pissed. They're pissed off,
as I should be. So here's from the BBC Diplomacy

(18:53):
ruins after Israel strikes a moss leaders and here's another
headline here Israel threatens Hamas wherever they are as Cutter
host summit. Now I didn't bring that up yet due

(19:17):
to what happened in Doha. Cutter Cutter went ahead and
called an emergency Arab Islamic summit. Even even Egypt is

(19:38):
involved in this emergency meeting, and Nan Yahoo doesn't seem
like he wants to let up on anything regarding chasing
down Hamas no matter where they are. Now, I don't
have a problem with Israel eliminating Hamas, but the way
they're going about it, it's a bit unhinged, it's not

(19:59):
diplomat attic, and it's a threat to other sovereign nations
at this point. And I've said this before in past episodes,
and I really don't care how you take it, if
you disagree with me, But due to Israel's actions, they
are now once again, as they have in the past,

(20:21):
they're putting our relationships in jeopardy. I say our because
I'm an American. I live in the United States of America,
and they're putting the relationships of the United States of
America within the Middle East in jeopardy with a sovereign
nation who's hosting our largest military base, a very strategic base. Now,

(20:52):
with all of this going on, this summit that was called,
I want to point I want to point to who
was involved in this summit, this emergency Arab Islamic meeting,
to discuss how do they move forward because now even
they are in a sticky situation here. I'm sure they

(21:12):
all want to retaliate against Israel, but they don't want
to do so at the threat of the US getting
involved to protect Israel. And I'm not sure if that
is what the US will do because Israel while they
are or they have been called our greatest ally, at

(21:36):
least in the Middle East. We also have relations with
these other countries that were part of the summit. Here's
some of those countries here. I hope you can read
this on the screen clearly obviously Cutter, they're the ones
who called this emergency summit. We have Saudi Arabia, who
we do have relations with, and our allies with Egypt,

(21:59):
who we have relations with. Jordan again another country we
have relations with, Bahrain, who we absolutely have relations with.
There's the Palestinian Authority. There's Syria, there's Elebanon. There's Iraq,
who we've gone in. Obviously the Iraq War was an

(22:21):
abhorrent and long war, but we went in to help
the Iraqi people and so we do have relations with Iraq.
We also have the United Arab Emirates. These are all
countries in which we tried to have a semblance of
a relationship, some closer than others with some of these

(22:42):
nations or these countries, and that list I read with
just the more well known prominent larger countries, but there's
also the Arab League members that were present, which are Kuwait,
Oman and the UAE, who also participated in this. So

(23:07):
that's a significant list of representation representatives in the summit
who got together to discuss the future of relationships when
it comes to Israel and also our relationship, the relationship
with the United States with these countries in the Middle East.

(23:30):
Here we are from the Guardian. Golf leaders call on
Trump and I knew this would happen. They call on
Trump to reign in Israel after Cutter's emergency summit. Of
course they do. Of course they do. Why wouldn't they
Scroll down a little bit, read a little bit from
this article. Here golf leaders meeting at an emergency summit

(23:51):
and Cutter have called on the Trump administration to use
its leverage to reign in Israel after the unprecedented Israeli
attempt last Tuesday, which I forgot to mention, by the way,
this whole attack. I'm recording this on September fifteenth, twenty
twenty five. This attack was last Tuesday. From this date

(24:12):
very recent. So this is this unprecedented attempt which happened
last Tuesday to assassinate AMAS negotiators in Doha. Now they
killed an injured some, but they didn't get the targets
they wanted. And that's why I stated earlier that this
wasn't the successful mission that they were hoping for. Okay,

(24:36):
reading on speaking after the meeting of the Golf Cooperation
Council were also known as the GCC, the group's secretary general,
I don't know if I'm pronounce this correctly. I'm probably not,
but you know this little leave it there. This group's
secretary general said, we expect our strategic partners in the

(24:57):
United States to use their influence on Israel in order
for it to stop this behavior. They have leverage and
influence on Israel. It's about time that this leverage and
influence used. The attack killed five Hamas officials and was
denounced on Monday by Cutters Amir and has been said

(25:22):
to be a cowardly and treacherous attack on as I
mentioned earlier, Cutters sovereignty. There you have it, exactly what
I was alluding to earlier before I read the article.
I'll just kind of saving that a bit now. These
Arab allies, these Arab nations, nation states who have a

(25:47):
relationship with United States, they feel screwed. All right, what
the fuck do we do here? Israel violated our sovereignty
or at least Cutters aueignty and now none of the
Arab nations that have relationship with the United States feels
safe from Israel, and so they're calling on the United

(26:10):
States to reign in Israel, who's acting like a little
hot tempered child at this point. Of course, you have
a right to defend yourself Israel. Nobody's in the right
man would think that a nation state doesn't have a
right to protect themselves from a heinous attack. And I
will also point out that these attacks are continuous against Israel.

(26:33):
But everybody is questioning whether or not the tactics that
are being used are the humane. Is it too much?
In Gaza? We can definitely ask the question as to
whether or not Israel is going too far and their
approach is too much. Of course we can ask that question.
But I still stand by Israel's right to root out

(26:56):
and eliminate hamas. I want to make that very clear.
But attacking sovereign nations, not directly, but but you're encroaching
on crossing their borders, their airspace to carry out clandestine missions. Well,

(27:16):
I guess this wasn't so clandestine. It was pretty public
right to carry these missions out, because you know, Israel
did take responsibility for us. They did not hide it
is that? Is it right for them to do this?
Is it right for them to carry out their mission
at all costs to le me Hamas by violating the

(27:38):
sovereignty of these other nation states that also have relationships
with the United States of America. And as I said earlier, Cutter,
our largest military base in the East is hosted by Cutter.
Now they're calling for Donald Trump to reign in Israel?

(27:58):
Will he will the United States put their foot down?
Will we put our foot down when it comes to
Israel and their actions? I think it's time. I think
it's long overdue. I really do. Again, I'm not anti Israel.
I just want to make that clear. I know a
lot of people are a lot of people hate Israel.

(28:20):
I don't. I don't, Sorry, I don't. I believe that
they should root out the moss and destroy them. I
believe they should protect themselves. But we also have to
call them out when they're doing too much, when it's
going too far. And it's not just this attack on

(28:41):
Cutter sovereign soil that is too far. The constant pictures
and videos and reports what's going on in Gaza also
suggests it's too far, it's too much. I know, it's
hard to be strategic in such a small strip. The
strip it's not that big, not too many places for

(29:04):
people to go. But is it right to level entire
cities residences? I don't know that it is. With all
the training that modern military in this world, any modern

(29:25):
military has, but especially if we're talking about Israel. They
have their own special forces, their own special operations. They
were so strategic not long ago, but their pager bombs.
Remember that they were able to find these Moss leaders,
Moss affiliates and somehow kill these people and really, like

(29:50):
seriously injure them using their own pages that they have
on them by just sending a call and they exploded.
They have shown that they can be very strategic and precise,
but they're not showing that in Gaza, and after what
happened with Cutter, this is getting, as I said, harder

(30:15):
and harder to say, look, Israel, we're on your side.
It's getting harder to explain away their actions. I think
that the United States of America does need to rain
them in. I think Trump needs to sit down with
that and how have a talk. But many will counter

(30:36):
that argument or that statement by saying, well, Israel controls
the United States, APAC controls the United States. I'm not
buying that they have influence for sure, but they don't
control the United States. They just don't. So you can
just get that idea out your head. Now, Is it

(30:59):
posible that Israel has dirt, has dirt on some of
our leaders? Yeah, sure it is. That's I mean, that's
that's a tactic as old as time. I'm sure we
have dirt on their leaders. I'm sure we have a
lot of dirt. And that you have that yahoo. I mean,
much of what Israel has is because of the United States.

(31:25):
They have an amazing intel unit. Also is the United
States from America. They have weapons, so is the United
States from America. Much of the technology that Israel has
is because of US involvement. Much of the funding that
goes to their military operations comes from the United States
of America. At a minimum dollar amount of three point

(31:49):
two billion dollars of year. That doesn't sound like a lot,
because I mean the grand scheme of things, it's not.
But that's a consistent amount and does not represent the
total amount spent every year. Now, I'm not going to
get into that on this show. I've done it in
the past. I've already exposed how much money we've been
sending to Israel. And it's not just the minimum three
point two billion dollars a year, by the way, that much,

(32:10):
I can tell you for a fact. So as much
as we want to stand behind Israel and Israel's are an ally,
they're not making it easy for the United States to
continue to stand by their side with actions like what
they just did against Cutter, or at least the operation
they carry it out on Cutter. Sovereign soil again is

(32:33):
also a US ally who again hosts the largest military
base the United States of America has in the Middle East.
And while all this is going on today, as of
this day, September fifteenth, there's an event going on in Israel.

(32:57):
We're not in Yahoo obviously is a part of It's
called Fifty States One Israel. I believe I got that right,
where two hundred and fifty of our lawmakers, lawmakers and
delegates of the United States are actually physically in Israel

(33:21):
showing support for Israel. Now, the fifty states within this
title of the event are actually literally representative of the
fifty states in the United States of America. The whole
point of this event is to show that we have

(33:41):
bipartisan support for Israel. We got your back, Israel, and
it's not just the United States government saying. The statement
here is that every state in America has your back.
Fifty states, all fifty States of America support you. Israel
going to show that support by physically sending two hundred

(34:02):
and fifty lawmakers and delegates over to Israel to sit
in this conference and just pine over Israel, to show
Israel how important they are to us, to show them
that we stand by Israel. This conference is going on
right now, right after they carried out this mission to

(34:28):
eliminate hamas leaders, which I don't care about that, by
the way, whatsoever personally, I just don't. But on sovereign soil,
on the sovereign soil of cutter A, US ally and
again we're our largest strategic military base in the Middle
East resides. Does this make any sense? Does it make

(34:52):
any fucking sense whatsoever? No, I'm answering for you. No,
it fucking doesn't. It doesn't. This is all strategically planned.
It looks like to me, it's like Israel saying we're
gonna do what we want. You can't fucking do anything
about it. This conference was planned in advance. Israel knew

(35:16):
very very well that we're heading over there. Our delegates
and representative were heading over there, all two hundred fifty
of them to Israel for this event. And what do
they do. They carry out a strategic strike against an ally,
at least violating the sovereignty of one of our allies, Cutter,
who was propositioned and put into place to be a

(35:42):
mediator between Israel, the United States and whoever else. And
the leadership of Hamas Israel's not helping themselves. They're really not.
By the way, I'm gonna show you how big this

(36:03):
base was in Cutter. So here's here's the base right here.
And this is an old picture. This is from twenty seventeen,
twenty seventeen. Let me click on this here. It's gonna
take us. This is an old article. I look at her.
This is from twenty seventeen. That's what this picture is.

(36:24):
So look at this base right here. You can see
how large that is. And this is old, old picture again,
and all reports are that this base literally just keeps
expanding and getting larger and larger. We have a significant presence.
Look at that we have a significant presence there, and

(36:47):
cutter that Israel is going out of their way to
threaten We'll getting back to this event that's being held
so here from the Jerusalem Post. Now, what I found
interesting is I was looking up this fifty States One
Israel event and I couldn't find much. Even on social media.
There was some leaks here and there, but there wasn't

(37:08):
like a specific website that would pop up. There wasn't
anything from our government really announcing it. I'm not saying
it's not out there, but I had a hard time
finding it. I finally landed on this article from the
Jerusalem Post in Israel. Here's the headline, Bipartisan US support
reminds Israel that true friends stand by us. Who are

(37:32):
those true friends? The United States of America? Of course,
seeing bipartisan support from those attending the Fifty States One
Israel conference shows Israel's true friends stand by us. Continue
reading this at a time when Israel faces growing isolation

(37:53):
around the world. The largest ever delegation of US lawmakers
representing all fifty states, and again that's all fifty states
of the United States of America. They arrived in Israel.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netan Yahoo and Foreign Minister Gideon Sayar

(38:14):
both addressed the delegation at an event at the Foreign
Ministry titled fifty States on Israel on Monday. Welcome to Jerusalem,
the Eternal Capital of Israel. Speaking later to the Jerusalem Post,
Hyat emphasized, and I probably pronounced that incorrectly. I'm not

(38:36):
good at pronouncing these Middle Eastern names. In a period
like this, seeing bipartisan support from all fifty US states
in a historic event unprecedented in Israel's history, reminds us
that in difficult moments, our true friends stand by our side.
The US lawmakers are in Israel for meetings with senior
officials and tours across the country, underscoring their men that

(39:00):
support for Israel in the US is a matter of
national consensus. Put this picture here, Look at BB right,
Look at BB sitting in there. So this is Israel.
Israel basically got US support from two hundred and fifty

(39:23):
lawmakers and delegates to represent all fifty states, naming the
damn event fifty states one Israel. This is literally them
spitting in the face of every other country in the
Mid least saying, no matter what you do, the United
States has our back. That's what this event is. That's

(39:48):
exactly what this event is. How much how much clearer
can it be that we need to take Israel, sit
them down, and have a mature conversation with them Again.

(40:14):
I support Israel as a sovereign nation. I do. I
support their right to protect themselves. I support what they're
doing and trying to root out Jumas, But I am
I'm having a hard time arguing away their actions because
I don't support all the methods and means that they're
using to get there. They're being very very boisterous, very cocky,

(40:42):
and how they're going about things because they know they
have the United States of America in their corner. But
I think it's important that the United States of America
stand up and show force and reinforce our relationship to
everybody with Israel, but not at our own expense. As

(41:05):
important as Israel is because listen, they provide intelligence and
military operational support in the Middle East that United States needs.
They offer technologies that are tested an actual real world

(41:25):
conflict that we get data on. Israel is strategic, so
are other allies in the Middle East. So let's cutter
the relationship that Israel is threatening right now. It's as
if they're calling on the US to make a choice.

(41:46):
Now they're forced, they're forced to call the US out
because of what just happened. The other Arab nations are
calling for the United States to reign in Israel directly.
They're literally saying it. This isn't implied. The Middle East

(42:11):
has always been a mess. It has always been a mess.
It just has. But these recent events it's not helping.
It's not helping. And I think it's time to bend
little Israel over our knee and give them a fucking spanking.
And look, I know a lot of people are gonna
hate me for that. Fine, go ahead, keyboard warrior, away,

(42:36):
send your comments, light up my social media. I don't
really give a fuck. You've got to call things how
you see it, you really do. It doesn't mean that
I believe Israel is the problem behind every conflict of
conspiracy in the fucking world. I don't believe Israel rules
the United States and controls US. You've got to understand

(42:59):
a lot of what's going on and why we stand
with Israel to the extent that we do is because
of how strategic the relationship is. We don't have a
tighter relationship in the Middle East and with anybody. Israel's it,
Israel's it, regardless, it doesn't matter. Saudi Arabia not nearly

(43:20):
as close. Believe me, cut her, not as close. Israel
is our greatest ally in the Middle East. And yeah,
we need that, We absolutely need that presence. But should
we not start looking at another ally, another country, another
sovereign nation in the Middle East, that we can also create,

(43:42):
if not a greater, at least an equally important relationship
with We have to take the leverage away from Israel,
we absolutely do. They need to understand their place, not
that where their father figure. We're not their big brother

(44:03):
or none of that. The United States is its own nation.
We do what the fuck we want, and we've shown
that to the world, good or bad, we have, and
I think it's time to show Israel that we're not
going to be cohersed and to trying to save their
ass because they think they can do whatever they want,

(44:23):
because they believe that they got the United States of
America by the balls. I don't want to see any
more leaders of the United States going to Israel to
touch their fucking wall. Let me make it very clear
what that western wall represents. It's a remnant representing the
Second Temple that still stands, the Second Temple that they

(44:45):
want to rebuild, the Second Temple that they want to resurrect,
that was destroyed by the Romans in seventy CE. It's
considered one of the most holiest places is believe that
the presence of God, if that's what they call them,

(45:07):
the spiritual presence remains in the walls that still stand.
And that is why that Western Wall is significant. Is
considered the holiest of holiest places in Israel. And are
people from the United States of America who aren't even Jewish,

(45:30):
by the way, go there. They have to hide their crosses,
by the way, I don't know if you've seen the videos,
have to hide their crosses because you know, Jews don't
believe in the cross. They don't believe that Jesus was
the Messiah, the Second Coming, none of it. They don't
believe in any of that. But we're always told that

(45:52):
from a religious perspective, that we are very close and
tied together because of the fact that Jesus was a Jew.
All right, Sure, whatever, but their beliefs don't necessarily align
entirely with that of Christians, Catholics, et cetera. They just don't.

(46:16):
So why are our leaders cowtowing to Israel by going
over to Israel to touch this fucking wall. I wouldn't,
I just wouldn't. I'm sorry. I understand the significance of it.
I understand the historical significance. I would like to view
it because of its historical significance. But I'm not a Jew,

(46:40):
and if I was a Catholic, I wouldn't have my cross,
I wouldn't hide my faith. Just so I can, you know,
show my allegiance and pledge my allegiance to Israel, which
is really what this ritual seems to be in the
United States. I'm sorry, but our government needs to pull

(47:02):
our head out of our ass and when it comes
to US Israeli relations, we need to treat them equally
as equal as we treat our other allies. It's just
time to call them on their bullshit. It just really is.
I'm not saying several ties. I'm absolutely not saying that.

(47:23):
I just want you to I want everybody to understand
that is not what I'm advocating for. What I'm advocating
for is a true America first agenda. We can't be
led by the collar like a damn dogs as a symbol,
like a pit bull standing behind it some owner in
front of its owner, so that they can just Israel

(47:46):
themselves can just stir up shit and then when someone
speaks up, they go get them boy, Get them boy.
That dog being the United States of Americas what it
feels like lately, It's actually been that wait for quite
some time. But look, I know a lot of you

(48:06):
out there may not agree with anything I just said,
and that's fine. We can have our difference of opinion.
And I'm not saying to abandon Israel. I'm just making
that very clear. I'm not saying that. But we need
to evaluate the relationship and we need to show strength
in ourselves and our own nation because what's going on

(48:30):
lately with what Israel's been doing and how they are
jeopardizing our relationships or at least calling them into question,
that's something that we can't have. It's just not now
getting back to this fifty States one summit, bullshit net

(48:51):
and Yahoo, there's a clip from a speech here. I
have well go ahead and try to blow this up. Here.
Let me switch over so you guys can see this.
So here's Nat Yahoo given a speech. I want you
to listen to this.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
I just said this at another meeting and they said
always will is isolated as well. Can't break out of
the season, I said, we will. Some of them have
stopped weapon componentshipments. Can we get out of this? Yes
we can. We're pretty good at producing weapons like intelligence
we share both with the United States. A good chunk,

(49:36):
a good chunk of your intel.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
All right, So I'm gonna pause that for a second.
So net Yahoo telling everybody he wants everyone. You're saying, oh,
we're okay regards of the boycotts, we're fine, but we're
extremely good at making weapons. I'm not sure, maybe I'm

(50:03):
reading it wrong, but that was kind of like a
threat to everybody's saying that, you know, no matter what
you do, we're not going anywhere, and we're gonna be
stronger and we're gonna make even more weapons to combat
all of you. It was just me. That's just kind
of how I took it. But I'm gonna continue to
play this. You form your own opinion, You form your

(50:26):
own opinion, and after watching the rest of this, if
if you want to go ahead and give me your
comments and your two cents and your assessment on it,
go ahead. But you know you know where my website
is world Ablaze podcast dot com. I'm on x I'm
on Instagram, on threads. You can find me at fons
Ablaze in fact is right up here on the screen,

(50:46):
right right down there. You have something to say, go
ahead and say it. Happy to have open dialogue, but
let me continue playing this.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Add our weapons systems we share with the United States.
We're tremendously appreciative of the bipartisan support in military matters
to Israel in previous years and today as well. But
do you have cell phones? And you have cell phones? Here,
you're holding a piece of Israel right there.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I mean a lot of the cell phones, the medicines,
the foods you eat, cherry tomatoes, you know where that
was made. I don't like cherry tomatoes, but it's what
can I do. It's an Israeli product, as there so
many other things. And I think this serves the betterment

(51:41):
for the betterment of all mankind and women kind. I
think that is Israel's unknown contribution, but we are We
can make things, we can produce things. We cherish the
fact that we have the constancy of American support, despite
the attempts to erode it, and we'll continue to work

(52:02):
to make sure that that continues on both sides of
the isle. It's very important for us. But equally, we
will eventually create the independence that we need, so those
in Western Europe who think they can deny us things
will not succeed.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Okay, So that speech was given at this fifty States
one Israel event. There's a few statements he made that
kind of stood out to me. We're very good at
making weapons. A cell phone you have in your hand,

(52:42):
you know we have a hand in that, right. You
can take that a few ways, Take that a few ways.
It's a nod to the technologies that they're able to produce.
It's a nod to their security forces. To Masad basically,

(53:03):
no matter where you are, we're going to be able
to find you, spy on you. And to me, from
what I heard, it's kind of a callback to what
they did with the pagers, how they were able to
pull that off with all the people who are affiliated
with Hamas you know, pagers, blowing up, killing people, maaming people.

(53:29):
He's threatening European nations, saying, no matter what you do,
the United States is in our corner. Everything I spoke
about earlier, Nah, who just reinforced in that speech? Netnah,

(53:49):
who just reinforced in that speech? They're not hiding it.
He could talk all calm, he could be eloquent all
he wants. It can be funny. It doesn't take away
from the fact that they appear to be very emboldened

(54:11):
in their actions and have no regard for anyone but themselves. Again,
I think they should defend themselves. I think that Hamas
does need to be eradicated. But we do have to

(54:32):
be logical, we do have to be critical in our thinking,
and we do have to take a step back and
stop blindly reinforcing how they're going about doing this. We
need to hold Israel accountable. We need to have them
pump the brakes a bit. You know. They brag about

(54:54):
everything they can do, how strategic, how intelligent they are,
decise they can be, and their operations and all the
stuff that they can offer the world and what they
actually offer the United States. But it doesn't seem like
they're being very strategic in how they're handling everything in
the way of chasing down Hamas violating the sovereignty of Cutter.

(55:20):
It's not strategic. Leveling cities in Gaza is not strategic.
Or maybe it is. Maybe it's a part of the
strategy their actions. It is getting harder and harder to

(55:56):
say I stand with Israel. It also further feeds into conspiracies.
Driel killed Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk. I don't believe he

(56:16):
is killed by Israel. So far, all we know about
what happened to Charlie Kirk is he was killed by
some psychotic nutjob. He was pissed off that he couldn't
debate him. From what I've seen in previous videos, Charlie

(56:40):
Kirk did call Israel out on their actions, but in
later episodes before his death also spoke a support of Israel.
Both things can be true at the same time. You
could be critical of Israel and also support them. It's

(57:03):
okay to call Israel out on the actions that are
obviously painous, that are obviously wrong, and correct them, just
as the world loves to do the US. The world
has no problem being critical of the United States of
America whatsoever. But yet it's wrong to be critical of Israel.

(57:29):
Many people are critical of the United States of America
but still keep the relationships open with us. We still
find ways to move forward. But it seems like we
can't apply that same principle to Israel. Doesn't seem like
anybody can. And so as far as the theory conspiracy
of Israel taking out Charlie Kirk, it's ridiculous to me.

(57:55):
Why would Israel think about this, this nation state of
Israel zero in on one guy, one guy with a mouth.
Sure he was intelligent, Sure he knew how to argue
his point. But why would a nation specifically seek out
to kill one person, the United States citizen, a person

(58:18):
who is revered by the current the current political party
in charge, by the way, the Republican Party. Why would
Israel risk their relationship with the United States of America
to do this? I know, I know. Here we go.
Let's talk about JFK. Let's talk about everything else that

(58:43):
Israel has allegedly done and been involved with. Sure we
can go down those rabbit holes, but let's let's stay current.
Let's let's let's stay let's stay on track here, Charlie
Kirk was killed by a psychotic nutjob. And what's been

(59:07):
coming out lately with this whole thing that happened to
Charlie Kirk is it's becoming very partisan. People are pointing
fingers at one another. It's I said it's before, and
I hate it. It's like it's like we're watching an
NFL game or something. They're treating us like a team
sport and they're And what I don't like is how

(59:28):
people are blanketing, blanketing others, capturing them, and they're throwing
them into a group, compartmentalizing everybody so they can say
it's you against me, right first left Republican versus Democrat.
And we need to be stronger in our actions. We

(59:50):
need to take action. Some of the talk out there
has been very borderline. Well actually it has been outright
outright an excitement to violence. That's not right. Is that
we need a civil war? Is that what we're trying
to push for as a people? Really think about this.

(01:00:13):
Most of you pussies out there have never even been
in a fight. I'm saying it right now, most of
you pussies. I said it again, pussies have never even
been in a fight. Have you ever Have you ever
been down the other side of a gun? Have you
you ever had a gun pulled on you? I have
but a knife now. I have you ever been in

(01:00:35):
a real fight. I've been in plenty. That's how I
grew up. I guarantee you you're not ready. I guarantee you.
All these people on social media that are calling for
the elimination and killing of Republicans, there people have literally said,

(01:00:57):
you know, like I can show you examples. I may
show you example here in a bit, but everything I'm
saying you can verify and look up yourself on Instagram,
on x on TikTok, wherever it's out there. And at
the same time, you have Republicans, alleged Republicans or MAGA
or whatever you want to call call people on the

(01:01:17):
other side calling for the accountability of those on the
left or the far left, and this has turned into
a us Verstam moment, a moment that should have should
have absolutely brought the country together and realizing that, regardless

(01:01:42):
of our differences, killing someone over having a discussion challenging
narratives is never a call for the elimination of that
person's life, just as it was not acceptable whatsoever. It
came to more Luther King, who was assassinated for what

(01:02:05):
can be said to be a similar thing, not the
exact same message, admittedly, but calling for equality, calling for
united people, calling for a better America. Martin Luther King
was killed for that. Is that what Charlie Kirk was
calling for. Charlie Kirk believed he did. Charlie Kirk believed

(01:02:26):
that everything he was talking about was about making America better,
bringing people together, getting back to getting back to, you know,
reinforcing and fixing the moral fabric of America. And much

(01:02:47):
of what Charlie Kirk believed in was reinforced by the
fact that he was a Christian. And while we all
don't agree on religion, maybe you don't believe in Christianity,
you might be hidden, might be Buddhist. Whatever, the principles
in which he believed in that reinforced what he spoke of.

(01:03:13):
Most all of them were basic humanitarian principles that we
can't disagree with or dismiss. I have a clip of JD. Evans,
who took over for Charlie Kirk. So here's JD. Vance

(01:03:40):
and here's part of his closing statement on real America's Voice,
where he hosted in place of Charlie Kirk, his friend.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
There is no unity with people who scream at children
over their parents' politics. There is no unity with someone
who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to
excuse his murder. There is no unity with someone who
harasses an innocent family the day after the father of
that family lost a dear friend. There is no unity

(01:04:09):
with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination. And there
is no unity with the people who fund these articles,
who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers, who argue
that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father, deserved a
shot to the neck because he spoke words with which
they disagree. Did you know that the George Soros Open

(01:04:33):
Society Foundation and the Ford Foundation, the groups who funded
that disgusting article justifying Charlie's death, Do you know they
benefit from generous tax treatment. They are literally subsidized by
you and me, the American taxpayer. And how do they
reward us by setting fire to the house built by
the American family over two hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
And fifty years.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
I'm desperate for our country to be united in condem
of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend.
I want it so badly that I will tell you
a difficult truth. We can only have it with people
who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable and when we
work to dismantle the institutions that promote violence and terrorism

(01:05:20):
in our own country.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Okay, there you have it. Jd Events, our Vice President
of the United States. You can tell he's very upset
and what he said. I agree with a lot of it.
I agree with a lot of it. I have questions, though,

(01:05:51):
and this is what I'm hoping doesn't happen. Yeah, we
need accountability. Yes, we need to root out the institutions
who are deliberately going out of their way to tear
the fabric to divide the United States of America by
putting these subversive messages and narratives of hate into the
young minds of Americans. My question being, though, is how

(01:06:20):
are we going to define these groups, these peoples, these organizations,
Because unless we have restraint, unless we are truly nonpartisan
in this approach, it can be very easy to just

(01:06:42):
lash out at everybody who doesn't think the way that
we do, I do, or you do. Anybody does and
while JD. Vance is clearly upset and mostly correct, I
hope that emotions are not the driving factor in deciding

(01:07:05):
how how we're going to hold certain peoples accountable, that
the assessments of who and what groups are applied equally.
Now I understand what he was saying. We can't be
united with people who cheer the death of Charlie Kirk

(01:07:27):
or any individual for that matter. We can't be united
with people who abuse children, and we can't be united
with those who are deliberately going out of the way
to write smear campaigns against other individuals that are absolutely untrue.

(01:07:48):
I understand it, I do, But we can't let our
emotions get in the way here either. We've got to
be very careful how we approach this. Should we step
up and really start holding people accountable? Yeah, I think
it's long fucking overdue, you know. Not not holding people
accountable is what God is here. Not standing up for

(01:08:09):
morals are principles that this nation was built on. That's
what God is here. And so, in light of Charlie
Kirk's death, as I said earlier, it has unfortunately divided
us more than it has brought us together. And the

(01:08:34):
unfortunate truth is we have too many podcasters, social media personalities,
and armchair experts out there are trying to get attention
and using Charlie Kirk's death as a way to capitalize,
get more likes, clicks and downloads. They can get more monestisation,
make more money. Everyone's an expert. They don't even know

(01:08:59):
what the fuck you're talking about. Everybody wants to be first.
Everybody wants to be the person that panders to the
world and says, look at my hot take, Look how
intelligent and wonderful I am. But most of you didn't
give a fuck about Charlie Kirk. Most of you didn't
even know who he was, or if you heard of him,

(01:09:21):
didn't watch anything that he put out, didn't listen to him.
Many of you who are kicking and screaming are just
looking for an excuse to kick and scream and lash
out and pull the whole Oh I told you so,
I told you those fucking people over there, look at them,

(01:09:41):
they're the ones. And so people on the right have
come together to put their own form of cancel culture together,
and they're finding people on social media who have celebrated,
who have made videos a lot of really abhorrent videos,

(01:10:01):
by the way, praising the death of Charlie Kirk, and
so far there's been. Last time I looked, I think
close to a thousand people who've been fired. Because what's
happening is the people are policing these individuals. They're looking

(01:10:24):
for their posts of them dancing and celebrating and saying
fuck Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk did shot in the head,
one down, millions to go. These are all things that
are out there, all on social media. Again, I don't
have to show all of this. You can look it
up yourself. And I want my audience to understand that
that's a constant theme with me. Yes, I do research,

(01:10:44):
Yes I do deep dives. Yes I do all the
reading of the data I do. But I think at
some point I'm just going to lead you there, and
it's up to you to make up your own mind,
vitalizing and further researching and verifying what I say, because

(01:11:06):
that's important. It's important not to take me at face value,
and it's important not to take CNN and MSNBC and
NBC and anybody else at face value. It's important you
don't take Joe Rogan at face value. It's important you
don't take well, this one should be obvious, but it's
important you don't take Alex Smith at or Alex Jones,
I mean at face value. Question us, question me. I

(01:11:32):
want to make it clear you should. But getting back
to my statements about what's going on social media unless
unless you live under a rock and intentionally tune not
the world. People of the right, people call themselves maga.
People who call themselves conservative, I don't even think they

(01:11:52):
know which label really appropriately fits them, are going out
and looking for all these posts of people dancing and celebrating,
getting in the face of other people. There's vigils, there's
there's vigils for Charlie Kirk. One was in Idaho that
that made the news, and the other one in Arizona,
where where these anti Charlie Kirk people or just leftists

(01:12:12):
in general went out of their way to cause a scene.
One of the one of the people in Arizona look
up this video literally ran through their memorial trying to
destroy what they put together. The one in Idaho, the
individual wrote up on a it was a scooter or

(01:12:33):
one of those mopet type things. I don't know what
you call him. And just started shouting and causing a
scene and had to be removed by the police. These
people are going out of their way to post these things,
proud smiling. There was even there's even another social media

(01:12:56):
posts of a young girl. The mother goes up and says, oh,
guess what I had? What good news there is out there?
Guess what happened? And the girls all getting us. Tarylick
Creek's dead. Oh my god, he's dead. Yeah, that's that's real.
That happened. This girl is probably what ten eight. I
don't know. She wasn't old at all. How do you

(01:13:16):
think a child thinks that way? How do you think
they get to thinking that way? In this particular case,
I think it was coming from the parents, coming from
the schools, the universities, et cetera. She's too young to
go to university. But you get my point. This is

(01:13:36):
what's going on. This is what's going on out there.
And so people of the right are holding these people accountable.
They're finding out where they work, they're finding out what
they do for a living. They're reporting them to their employers,
and they're getting fired. And then they're going back on
social media and crying because they don't believe it should
have happened to them. Hmm, just as the left had

(01:14:04):
did or done to conservatives a few years ago by
doxing people and trying to get them fired and canceling
them because Trump was elected. You guys all remember that
one no short memories. Yeah, that happened, And this isn't

(01:14:28):
a tit for tat thing. Look, two wrongs do not
make a right. Two wrongs absolutely do not make it right.
So do I agree with what's going on with having
these people lose their jobs? Well? Yes and no. I mean,
in some cases maybe it's justified, but is it really

(01:14:57):
You know, I think we let these things play out.
We shouldn't go out of our way. We shouldn't go
out of our way to make make these people's lives
any more miserable than they already are. Their employees will
find out, they'll find out. But sitting there, I think

(01:15:17):
there was called a Charlie Kirk data collection or something
like that on X you know what. I'm actually gonna
look that up because I think this is this is important.
Let me see if I can find this Charlie Kirk
data Where is it at? I can't find it anyway

(01:15:44):
this account was literally keeping a list, a spreadsheet of
everybody and keeping a tally of how many people were
fired and how many people they need to go after.
If you're a conservative and you're on the right, I'm
gonna tell you right now, you're literally doing nothing but
mirroring everything that you said was wrong about the left.

(01:16:10):
Step back and ask yourself, is this is this what
Charlie Kirk wanted? Would he literally, as a Christian, want
you to continue to divide and stirrup hate and spread
division amongst your fellow Americans and people who the left.

(01:16:31):
I'm gonna call you out if you've got away with
so much for so long, with all the bullshit you've
been talking about, all the all the all the stuff
you were trying to push in school curriculum, the support
of I mean, look, I'm not going to get into it.
You know, all your woke agenda, your DEI bullshit, how

(01:16:52):
we all need to have white guilt. I mean I
can there's a laundry list of of dumbfuckery that the
left was behind for many years. So you're not absolutely
any better whatsoever. But I'm going to caution the people
of the right to not become that which you yourself do
not approve of. So I'm going to end this show

(01:17:14):
here if you truly want to, if you truly want
to honor Charlie Kirk, and honor Charlie Kirk for who
he was and what he actually represented, which was open discussion,
challenging narratives, and trying to make America a better place.

(01:17:41):
That's the Charlie Kirk that we need to remember. And
that's the Charlie Kirk the principles of which he represented
that needs to bring America together.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo do