Different Points Podcast

In this episode, Roy and Catherine talk about what brings them joy and whether we can choose it on purpose. Roy’s joy comes from being around loved ones and being present with them. This weekend that meant cooking with his son and taking him fishing again, watching him get his hook caught in a tree and reel in seaweed, plus walks and conversations with him and phone calls with his mum. He also finds joy when peop...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask what they’re each unlearning. Catherine starts by questioning the premise itself, wondering whether saying “I’m ready to unlearn this” is ever really true, since for her unlearning usually only becomes visible after it’s already happened rather than before. She gives two concrete examples from starting her podcast: she’d developed a slow, delibe...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine share how they actually practice presence day to day. Roy describes his approach as having evolved over the years into appreciating the earth, the sun, and the food grown from both, staying grateful for what sustains him and paying close attention while he’s out walking, enough that he notices when he feels out of sync and knows to step back, take a break, read, or simply stop s...

In this episode, Roy asks Catherine point blank: are you living your values? Catherine says she’s doing her best, and that the honest answer involves two shifting things, she feels she lives from her values more as time passes, but also notices more clearly when she doesn’t, while becoming more forgiving of herself either way. She used to treat living your values as an all-or-nothing standard, where any sli...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore how small acts of kindness ripple outward. Roy’s approach is less about grand gestures and more about how he lives day to day, letting a car pull out from a side street, stopping at a crossing even when he doesn’t have to, and in business or community settings, always asking how he can help someone rather than how he can sell them something. He points out the rippl...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore why community matters so much and how differently it works today. Catherine opens with a relocation agent who used to tell her they’d find a neighbourhood full of her “like-minded people,” only for Catherine to point out that her like-minded people are scattered across the world, not clustered in one place. She breaks community down into layers: simple everyd...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask what wisdom actually comes with age, a question Catherine admits made her burst out laughing before they even started. Roy’s answer comes straight from his own financial history: since the losses he’s talked about before, he hasn’t touched a credit card or borrowed money, because living on assumptions (that a sale will close, that money owed will arrive) doesn&rs...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask how you actually find calm inside chaos. Catherine draws on her long practice with Five Rhythms Dance, a freestyle movement meditation whose third rhythm is literally called Chaos. In that rhythm you let go completely, letting your body move however your emotions and energy dictate, however bizarre or erratic that looks, and what she’s found, over and over, is that fully sur...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine mark the show’s 40th episode milestone by asking how you actually nurture hope. Roy’s take is blunt: hope on its own isn’t a strategy. He breaks everything down into tasks and systems instead, using his own podcasting journey as the example, the first episode took forever to edit, cutting pauses and filler, re-listening, re-uploading, and improving each time, and now...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask: where can you be brave today? Catherine admits the question first strikes her as odd since there’s no obvious threat in her day, just work at home, but she identifies several real forms of small courage. One is being truthful and genuinely feeling what she shares in promotional video clips rather than performing something she thinks people will like, and she says she can te...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine dig into fear as a teacher. Roy approaches it two ways: first, following on from the last episode, the fear around what was being pushed on people during Covid, where the lesson was recognising it was orchestrated and understanding the dangers of what people were being told to take. Second, the fear instilled by abusive schoolteachers, something he’s seen damage people for years...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine take on resilience in uncertain times and how to recover. Catherine starts by questioning the premise, pointing out that life itself is inherently uncertain since she’s an organic being, not a machine, and that when people talk about “uncertain times” they usually mean something external, like not knowing when a war will end. Her view is that the goal isn’t to ...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask the question: what legacy are you creating? Roy says his legacy isn’t about being remembered, a statue or a vote of thanks, it’s about leaving the world better than he found it for every generation’s children, not just his own, and knowing in himself that he spent his life trying to improve things. Catherine frames it through consciousness: she judges her life an...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask whether a business can be heart-led. Catherine opens with a story from her other show about a guest descended from a family as wealthy as the Rockefellers, whose fortune, unlike some of that era’s dynasties, was built entirely ethically and heart-led, with every deal structured so everyone involved came out ahead, a legacy that carried down generations into the guest’s...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine take on a question every entrepreneur eventually has to answer: are you serving, or are you selling? Roy explains why he’s never run a hard-sell close, even in his virtual assistant business, pointing out that he could probably get ten times the clients using urgency and discount pressure, but refuses, because he’s watched the demeanor of otherwise friendly prospects shift...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine sit with a deceptively simple question: what is enough? Catherine calls "enoughness" one of her favorite words, describing how easily she can get swept past the point of enough — a meal that only needed a few more spices, a conversation that didn't need to cover every feeling to the last detail, a party where staying past the moment it stopped being fun leads somewhere strange. ...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine reflect on how their own definitions of success have shifted with age. Roy shares how success once meant assets, achievements, and places he'd traveled — but now means being a good son, a good father, and living in a way that never comes at someone else's expense, becoming mission-driven rather than life-driven, where a real purpose brings everything together for the benefit of ...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask each other a deceptively simple question: what are you learning right now? Catherine shares a lesson from day one of her humanistic psychology master's degree — that literally everything is a learning opportunity, not just formal workshops — and how she trained herself to notice learning happening constantly, including right now on this podcast, where she's practicing ...

In this episode, Roy and Catherine share the small, repeated habits that quietly compound into something meaningful over time. Roy talks about watching podcast analytics closely enough to trust his own instincts — including the time he nearly skipped releasing an episode about eating bugs because the guest looked like he'd just crawled out of bed, only to watch it flop to an 8% completion rate, confirming what he...