October 8, 2025 • 30 mins
It’s clear President Trump wants to send troops to Portland, Oregon. But it’s not clear why—especially to people who live there.
Guests:
Isaac Stanley-Becker, staff writer for The Atlantic.
Elizabeth Lopatto, senior reporter at The Verge.
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Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.
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