October 3, 2024 • 27 mins
I received my DJI Neo on September 30th, way before the October 6th relase date. Don't know why...but I'm not complaining! Here are my first impressions after testing!
ABOUT NOISE REDUCTION:
The first long portion is DJI Mics 2's built-in noise reduction + about 50% added in Davinice Resolve. Built-in NR helped with road noise, but wasn't enough.
After the break (I'm at the daycare...") is the built-in NR of the mic alone.
johnny@geektherapyradio.com
ABOUT NOISE REDUCTION:
The first long portion is DJI Mics 2's built-in noise reduction + about 50% added in Davinice Resolve. Built-in NR helped with road noise, but wasn't enough.
After the break (I'm at the daycare...") is the built-in NR of the mic alone.
johnny@geektherapyradio.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Geek Therapy radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm sure we bought the radio part anymore, but I'm
going to keep that in the name because at this
point I feel like it's official, even though I am
not on the air anymore technically, well not.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Even technically, I'm just not on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I don't even know if my old radio station is
still airing my promos for the podcast. I still have
all sorts of ins at the radio station. I could
send them a whole bunch of they're called liners or
just adlets. I could send them like a five second, ten, fifteen, thirty,
and a sixty. I could even probably send them two
(00:38):
minutes of film content just to kind of advertise the
podcast promote the podcast. But I don't have my radio
show on there anymore. It's no longer on KPRC nine
to fifty am. That was, by the way, just let
you be on the scenes a little bit. I think
I mentioned this before previous podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
That was my decision.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I emailed the program director and said, hey, it's cool
if you want to sell my time slot to you know,
what do you call it paid? What's the infomercial or
something like that. I had an hour I had two
hours on the weekend, I had an hour on Saturday,
an hour on Sunday, and I said, you can go
ahead and sell that at at that airtime to someone else.
(01:18):
I have two kids now, it's just too much to
be under the thumb to produce a radio show every week.
And yeah, but I'll keep the podcast going. They still
continue to host the podcast. That's why you hear commercials
in my podcast. It's because they still host the podcast.
So iHeartMedia is still going to put their ads on
the you know, interject them in my podcast. I hope
(01:42):
I've been. I went back and listened. They just kind
of insert ads anywhere. So I apologize for that. I
apologize if I'm mid sentenced sometimes and then they just
put an AD and break an AD break in there
for god knows what.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
That I don't see it dying for.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I wonder if AI would be good enough at least
to kind of sense a break in the conversation or
detect the chains in subject matter and then naturally put
an AD break between that natural breaking point. But I
don't think Speaker works like that. Spreaker is the back
end for iHeartMedia, and thus Speaker is the back end
obviously for Geek Therapy radio podcast. But anyways, that's just
(02:19):
a little bit of behind the scenes, kind of out
of the way. I am recording through my DGI mics too,
and I am currently using the built in noise reduction
of the MIC pack. I have it in standalone mode.
It's not attached to a camera, it's not attached to
any other different source that I'm recording into. It's just
(02:39):
I'm recording into the internal memory of the MIC pack
and I'm using the built in noise reduction of the
DGI mic too. So I will let you know in
the podcast description if I had to add any more
noise canceling. I am in the vehicle right now, so
we're going to see how it does with me driving
in road noise just the built in noise reduction of
(03:00):
the of the MIC pack. But if I do decide
if I need to, I will run this through da
Vinci Resolve for some more noise reduction, like I said,
if I need to, but I will disclose that information
in the podcast description for full disclosure. So check the
podcast description to see if I'm adding any more noise
canceling on top of the built in noise canceling, noise
(03:23):
reduction of the DGI MIC's two pack. So here's the
real reason for the podcast today. And I think just
recording these in the cars is kind of the way
it's gonna go, at least for the time being, because
it seems like that's the only time I have, you know,
fifteen twenty thirty minutes or more of me time is
gonna be while I'm in the in the car. So
(03:44):
the real reason for the podcast today is the past
few podcasts, past two sporadically re released podcast I've been
talking about the DGI Neo and the GGI mics too.
Obviously I have the DGI mikes too. I mentioned that
in the last podcast you know what I got in
the mail? It is as of recording. It is October
second right now, and the dg I Neo is not
(04:09):
supposed to be released in the United States until October sixth,
which means that it wouldn't be in people's hands until
October eighth, you know, given a day or two for shipping.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
But I have the DGI neo. They sent it to me.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I actually got the DJI Neo on September thirtieth, so
I don't know, I haven't before the I didn't research
before the podcast to see if any other North American
buyers have their neo yet. But I kind of like
suspect that this is an under cell over deliver situation
to where they probably released the DJI Neo early, at
(04:47):
least to some people, to kind of I don't know why.
I always I figured that, you know, like everyone else
in North America, I would get my DGI Neo on
October eighth, possibly octo Ober seventh, because it was going
to be released on October sixth the North America.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But I have it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I got it on September thirtieth. I was not expecting
that the DHL driver showed up on my doorstep with
a box, and I just thought it was the remote
Like I ordered the d GI uh RCN three whatever
to be compatible with remote control operation of the neo.
So I was just expecting, Okay, sure the controller gets
(05:25):
here early. The controller, the DJR, DJI RC and three
controls obviously more than just the neo. It's gonna what
else does it control? The air three s Like there's
it's a new transmission system. It's like the main thing.
So it has h I figured all right, there's maybe
there's already DGI drones that can use the d g
(05:48):
R N RCN three. So it makes sense that the
d g r R c N three comes out before
the neo because there's probably already products out that the
N three connects to. No the RC and three actually
arrived a day later after the neo, so I was
really really genuinely surprised and delighted when I saw open
(06:09):
the box expecting just the remote control and saw, oh,
it's the DJI Neo, and then the next day I
got the remote control. Let me tell you, as somebody
who probably is one of the first people in the
United States, I.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Don't think I'm the only one.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
There's no way I'm the freaking only one in the
United States who got the DJI Neo early before October sixth,
But I might be one of a few like the
first batch, I guess. If you remember in past podcast
or two, I mentioned that, mark my words, they all
do a firmware update, like a massive firmware update before
(06:43):
the North American release to fix the video quality issues
and standalone mode and a few other little things. So
there was one minor update that came out with some
little bug fixes, it's not what it was. Nothing major,
so they have released They were at least a firm
More update, uh, just a few days after its released.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
After its release in Asia.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And across other parts of the world, I don't know
when it came out in Europe, but there was a
minor firm More update, and I thought they would have
a firm More update before a major firm or update
before the North American release, but I got mined before
October sixth, So yeah, it's pre major update. There's been
no major firm More update as of yet, so I
(07:29):
had the the DJI Neeo pre major firm re update.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Let me tell.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Y'all, I after seeing so many reviews as maybe some
of y'all have about the DJ Neo and the just
the massive clap back that the video quality and standalone
mode is is is legitimately awful. I was kind of
with baited breath wondering how this neat, how it would perform.
(07:55):
And I saw this reviews that say is really cool
in this regard and and really bad in this regard.
So I have never had more fun with the drone.
The last time I had this much fun with a
drone was probably when I got my first Phantom.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I think I got the Phantom.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Two, Gold Edition, Premium Edition, whatever, like twenty fifteen is
when I got I think my first drone is a
big old Phantom and you can't fold it up, and
it's not compact at all. It's just a big, flying,
giant white albatross of a drone. I haven't but I
had a lot of fun with it because it was
my first drone. I had never had a drone before,
(08:35):
and it was a very unique experience. This Dji Neo
has been nothing but a permanent grin on my face,
just even in standalone mode. Yes, the video quality currently
as of recording, as of recording in standalone mode is
not very good. When you im poured it into a
(08:56):
video editor, it's not good at all. Actually, when you
you know you you zoom in and blow it up.
It looks awful when I put when I put footage
that I recorded in standalone mode into Da Vinci Resolve,
it's awful, truly awful. You zoom in and it's just blocky,
(09:16):
blotchy awfulness. It looks okay on social media though, if
you're just watching it on your phone screen and you're
not pinching and zooming into pixel peek. The standalone mode
looks great, well, it looks acceptable, looks good. Sorry, I
had to honk at somebody driving like an absolute moron.
(09:39):
Good lord, people are stupid. Full disclosure, not to get
too sidetracked. I am following behind my wife and second
born child, my five month old baby, who is ahead
of being a minivan. And there are people just basically
putting her life in my son's life in danger at
the moment, and I'm kind of watching from them. They're
(10:00):
fine now, they're fine. Now is just one driver, and
there was a couple of drivers road raging with each
other around the minivan which my wife and.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Child are in front of it, in front of me.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
All good now, gosh. Anyways, back to the djeneo. Yeah,
and standalone mode. The footage looks awful when you pixel peep.
When you pixel peepe, However, when you put it into
it also looks awful when you control it. By the way,
it also looks awful when you control it just with
your smartphone, that footage also looks terrible.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
There's no adjustments you can make. It's just awful.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And standalone mode and it's awful currently in smartphone control mode. Now,
when you do pair it to a controller though the
dj I R C and three in my case, and
two and three whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
The footage looks quite acceptable.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It actually looks it really looks not bad at all.
Like it. It's really usable well because in the controller
you can dial in sharpness. You can reduce the sharpness, which,
by the way, if you got a dj I e
O and you have the you're controlling it with an RC,
immediately go into the camera settings and the style menu
(11:16):
and just drop that sharpness down the lowest it can go,
which is negative too. It starts out at zero. You
can put it up to plus one, but put it
down the sharpness. Put the sharpness down to negative two
and you'll be all. You'll be right as rain. The
noise reduction you can also adjust. The noise reduction also
goes down to negative two, negative one, zero, and then
(11:37):
plus one.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I believe it's just plus one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I did some testing with all the different noise reduction
modes for film noise reduction, video noise reduction mode with
the DJI Neo and with the noise reduction all the
way the lowest. Yeah, there's a little noise. There's there's
a noise around kind of jagged edges, and there's a
lot of what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Not noir?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What's the word I'm looking for? When when straight edges,
there's aliasing, you can notice im aliasing. There's noise in
like the leaves of trees on the ground. It's not terrible,
and it's nothing that I don't think a video editor,
you know, a linear editor could kind of deal with.
But I cranked it all the way up the noise reduction.
I cranked it all the way up to plus one.
(12:24):
In my opinion, zero or plus one is kind of
where you want to leave the noise reduction. When you're
controlling the DGI Neo with an RC, it looks good.
It looks good enough that I would I would have
no problem using it in a pinch, like if I
just needed to have a tiny little run and gun
drone just in my backpacker, even in my pocket.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
The neo is minisculant.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The neo makes my Mini three pro look like an albatross,
like it makes the VIDI three pro look like a
C five Galaxy bomber or something like that, which is
crazy because the Mini three Pro and the Mini four
Pro are already very small. The Mini four K is
slightly smaller than the Mini three's and the Many four pros,
(13:09):
but the Neo in comparison like makes the Mini series
of DGI drones look massive. But if all I had
was the Neo and the remote control, you could absolutely
get usable footage with the DJI Neo in its current iteration,
with its current firmware version, even right now before any
major updates, you can get very usable footage out of
(13:30):
the Neo. The biggest issue I found with the Neo though,
flying with the controller. I'll let y'all know the currently
the max altitude is four hundred feet or three hundred
and ninety three feet what is it, one hundred meters,
one hundred and twenty meters, whatever it is. You cannot
go above that. You cannot set the altitude higher than that.
(13:50):
Like in my Magic three Pro and I think Mini
three Pro you can set the altitude up to like
sixteen hundred feet in Freedom units, but the DGI Neo
has a maximum altitude of around four hundred feet. You
can't go above that. And that's good. This is to
my point here, that's good that you can't go over
three hundred and ninety three feet or whatever because this
thing gets tossed in the wind. It's not horrible, it's
(14:13):
not horrible at all. But in situations that are kind
of breezy and gusty, where I'd feel okay with the
Mini three Pro or I'd definitely feel okay with my
big boy Mavic three Pro, those same conditions where I
would be okay with with the bigger drones are.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
A no go with a Neo.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It gets it gets pushed around quite a bit, and
the gimbal only works in the up and down axis,
so it doesn't have any kind of roll to it
to the gimbal, So if the drone is tilted you
know left or right, you know, fighting against across across twind,
the footage gets slanted and you'll get all sorts of
warnings on the screen saying, you know, high wind. That
(14:54):
high wind warning comes on a lot sooner than it
would and the Mini three Pro or definitely the Mavic
three Pro.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So that is a consideration. That is a consideration.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
If I'm out and about running gun filming whatever, and
let's say I'm in the great outdoors of like Wyoming
or something, and it's kind of windy, I can't I'm
not going to put the drone up in the air.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'm certainly not going to put it more than four
hundred feet.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
If I put it up four hundred feet at all,
I might get at ten feet in the air somewhere
close somewhere within, just very close to the ground. That's
kind of a rule of thumb with any drone that
you fly. If you're in gusty wind conditions and you're
you're risking a fly away or whatever, you need to
lower your altitude. You need to go down further towards
it's not gusty to where you're not hitting trees or
(15:35):
any obstructions around you, but you definitely need to lower
your altitude to get out of those higher winds aloft.
That goes for any aircraft that flies in the sky. Ever,
it's less windy usually at ground level. So if you
get these high wind warnings in your drone and you're
worried about it, you need to drop. You need to
drop down in altitude to get to a less windy altitude.
(15:58):
The trade off is sometime if you have to drop altitude,
you might go below some obstructions, like maybe there's a
building or some trees at are one hundred and twenty
feet high and you need to drop it down to
one hundred feet, you might lose connection with the RC controller.
So just do your best. That's all part and parcel
to say that the three hundred and ninety three foot
altitude limit of the DGI neo is wonderful. I have
(16:20):
no complaints about that. Maybe there's some people that say,
I wish you could go up a thousand feet. Why
is it restricted to just four hundred feet. Trust me,
this is a good move on dji's part to lock
it to three hundred and ninety three feet. That's at
two hundred feet. I was one hundred fifty feet two
undred feet up. I went up to four hundred feet
and my drone was drifting. It was just getting blown
by the wind. So I lowered it down to one
(16:41):
hundred and twenty feet more reasonable, and it was still
listing to the right a little bit. In the crosswind
sport mode, I was able to get it up to
like ten or twelve miles per hour. It's not very
fast in sport mode, it looks quicker because it's a
tiny drone. But for instance, the sport mode and my
Magic three Pro is about almost fifty miles an hour.
It's like forty seven forty eight miles per hour last
(17:02):
time I checked it over the weekend. So yeah, the
Neo is much slower. It's a lot louder too. It's
more annoying. That is something to keep in mind. I mean,
you'll get used to it. Anytime you have a drone
with real small rotors, you're gonna have a lot more
high pitched wine to it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's to be expected.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's not a big deal, but people, I think they
definitely notice it more. I flew my Mini three Pro
today and inside in a building and it was barely
audible over there's a water fountain inside of this building
that I was flying inside of. And you, once the
drone got i don't know, twenty feet up in this atrium,
you couldn't hear the drone. You couldn't hear the Mini
(17:41):
three pro over the water anymore. The Neo you absolutely
would have. It would have been a much more higher pitched,
piercing kind of noise. People definitely know the Neo three sorry.
People definitely know the Neo is flying because you just
hear it more. It's a higher pitched wine rather than
a lower pitched hum of a bigger drone.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Something to keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Moving on to kind of other specs just off the
top of my head as I'm driving and I can
verify it is you can go and verify yourself. The
data rate for video. The maximum data rate for video
currently in the Neo is seventy five megabits per second.
That is the maximum video rate if you follow me
(18:25):
on x, Twitter, x, whatever you want to call it.
I did a series of posts going over kind of
my initial kind of testing of the drone, So like
how fast is it charged? By the way, it charges
at about eleven watts. If you plug a USB cable
directly into the Neo, it charges at two amps five
volts two amps. The fly More Combo triple battery pack
charger will charge over a charge about sixty five watts.
(18:48):
I mean, it's it's truly quick charging, power delivery, quick charging.
Just charging the battery in the drone itself is eleven watts.
Is where I maxed out five volts eleven watts. It
equals about two amps effectively, but that data rate, it's
a half inch censor. The sensor on the Neo is
a half inch image sensor, not very big, and the
(19:10):
data rate maxes out at seventy five megabits per second.
I did a read and write speed of the hooking
up the USB cable the Type C cable to the
Neo in opened crystal disc or whatever disc writing software.
I used to see how fast that writes to the
internal storage. There's no micro SD card slot on the drone.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
You have to.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Exclusively use the built in storage, which is like twenty
three gigabytes. It's good, it's decent. It just means you
have to offload your footage more often, but that's fine.
What was I gonna say, I'm pulling into the parking
lot here, I gotta wrap up the podcast. Yeah, so
I did. The disc read and write is thirty megabytes
(19:54):
per second, which equals to about two hundred and twenty
or so megabits per second. So well, that's to say
there's a lot more bandwidth available to record with. So
I bet you that when you record later on with
the drafter and update, I bet you they there's no
reason why they couldn't add a log profile. In my opinions,
(20:15):
because it's at seventy five megabits per second, but the
read and write speeds are over two hundred megabits per second,
so there's there's there's wiggle room there. I'm going to
positive recording here because I'm about to go into this
new daycare and check it out. But I'm gonna hit
stop recording and come back at a later time.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Hold on a SECD. I only have a few more minutes.
I'm gonna start wrapping up with this.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
About the DJI Neo, I kind of talked about the
specs half in censure. Currently, the maximum video bit rate
is seventy five megabits per second. I did the read
and write speeds of the internal storage and I measured
it to be around two hundred and twenty two hundred
and thirty megabits per second, So there are there is.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Room to grow theoretically. I'm not an engineer.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I don't know in future for more updates where I
think they could add lat color profiles and such, maybe
other recording modes like ten eighty one twenty something like that.
Oh gosh, what was I going to say in that regard?
I just had something in that regard. Oh, the other
evidence that I think that's coming in a future firm.
(21:16):
More update is when you go into the app and
in the remote control in the settings, there is settings
that say color profile, and the only option underneath it
right now says normal. So why would that be in
the menu if they don't plan on adding more color
profiles to the menu. Very interesting, So I think there's
(21:40):
there's there's bandwidth meat on the bone, and there's already
some options in the in the settings that indicate future
color profile and different video settings, possibly even recording in
H two, six, five or or what. So I think
(22:01):
it's promising. I think there's gonna be big updates with
the DJI Neo coming up here shortly. That tracks because
Dji had does this all the time. Like I mentioned
the previous podcast, the Matvic three pro the super telephoto
lens was awful at launch, and then they did for
more updates and added more features to it and it
looks great now, and so I don't think anything's gonna
(22:24):
change with the Neo. The last few minutes here of
the podcast, though, I want to mention why I'm having
the most fun I've had with the drones since I
first got a drone in twenty fifteen handheld mode like
standalone mode where you just aiming at your face or
aiming at yourself and tap the button on top and
select between orbits and helixes and follow me modes and
(22:48):
all sorts of things. It's so good the obstacle avoidance.
It doesn't have any dedicated cameras for obstacle avoidance. It
has the downward facing sensors so that you so it
can see you, see your palm, and you can land
it in your palm. It has things like that, but
it only has the one main camera in front. There's
(23:10):
no rear side or upwards obstacle avoidance. But whatever algorithm
just out of the box, just out of the box.
The obstacle avoidance algorithm just using the main camera is
wicked good. I tested the following mode with my Mini
three pro and it is barbaric compared to how good
(23:30):
follow me is with the Neo.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I hope whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Algorithms they're using in the Neo makes its way to
the bigger drones, because the Neo is sorcery with how
good it follows you. If you walk directly into the sunlight,
like the camera's facing directly into the sun, it'll lose you.
It's too bright, washed out, it can't track you anymore.
That's that makes sense. Why are people going so slow? No,
(23:55):
dag nabbitt, I don't want to go.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Illegal. We're in Texas, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The follow me mode with the Neo with even without
obstacle avoid is whatever algorithm they're using just from the
main camera is mind bendingly good.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It is so good.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And that's one reason why it's so fun. It's so
fun to just have it in your hand. No controller.
You don't even whip out the app on your phone
or anything. You just put in your palm of your hand,
face it towards you, tap a button or two and
it's following you, or it's doing a droney, it's doing
these kind of creative quick shots. My son Riiker loves it.
He has we've hadn't been having so much fun with
(24:36):
the drone. He's almos He's not even four years old.
He'll be four years old this month. He already knows
how to operate it. This kid, I'm thinking it back
to when I was four years old. This kid is
four years old and he knows how to operate a drone. Now,
he pushes the button, he counts to three, and the
drone talks to you and says, what is it? Orbit mode?
Close three two one, and then it takes off. It's
(24:58):
really really cool, really intuitive. It lands in your hand
like a feather. The second it touches the skin of
your palm, the rotors shut off and the rotors are
all completely enclosed in their protective cages.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
This drone is so much fun to operate in handheld
mode and standalone mode. I just wish there was a
way to use the app to kind of preset the
standalone mode video settings. That will probably come down the
pipe hopefully, but just right now in its current standalone version, amazing,
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Riker loves it. I love it. It is so fun.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's two hundred bucks. It's Dji's cheapest drone by far.
It is phenomenal. There are some shortcomings like I mentioned,
but like it is hard not to recommend this, and
it's durable. It is durable. I don't think Riker can
stomp on it. I don't think it survived that, but
it has bashed off buildings. It follows you. I've walked
through narrow doorways and it follows me like a just
(26:00):
like sorcery through these narrow doorways. And even if it
kind of bumps something, it doesn't stop following you. Like
if it's not a bad bump, like if it kind
of ricochets off the wall or something like that, it
kind of goes wa but it keeps following you. It
doesn't immediately get knocked out if it hits a tree
branch or something. If it can still fly, it kind
of adjust and then and keeps going. It is awesome.
(26:22):
And then even if you fly at full speed into
something as fast as the drone can go, it's a survivor.
It maybe gets a scuff for something. This thing is
a battle tank. I today, I just to show a
CALLI at work. I said, check this out, and I
just kind of threw it against the wall kind of
medium and it bounced off the wall. Go down and
check this out. I just turned it on and it
flew perfectly.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
This thing is.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It feels flimsy, but it's built like a tank. It
is completely incredible. I am blown away. All right, I'm
here to pick up biker from daycare. Thank you so
much for listening to Geek Therapy Radio podcast. You are
worthy of love giving love and receiving love, and you're
worthy of your own self respect.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Thank you so much for listening, and I'll talk you
next time. Check the podcast description to see if I
added any more noise reduction to this d G. I
might too, all right, y'all, peace out,
Welcome to the Geek Therapy radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm sure we bought the radio part anymore, but I'm
going to keep that in the name because at this
point I feel like it's official, even though I am
not on the air anymore technically, well not.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Even technically, I'm just not on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I don't even know if my old radio station is
still airing my promos for the podcast. I still have
all sorts of ins at the radio station. I could
send them a whole bunch of they're called liners or
just adlets. I could send them like a five second, ten, fifteen, thirty,
and a sixty. I could even probably send them two
(00:38):
minutes of film content just to kind of advertise the
podcast promote the podcast. But I don't have my radio
show on there anymore. It's no longer on KPRC nine
to fifty am. That was, by the way, just let
you be on the scenes a little bit. I think
I mentioned this before previous podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
That was my decision.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I emailed the program director and said, hey, it's cool
if you want to sell my time slot to you know,
what do you call it paid? What's the infomercial or
something like that. I had an hour I had two
hours on the weekend, I had an hour on Saturday,
an hour on Sunday, and I said, you can go
ahead and sell that at at that airtime to someone else.
(01:18):
I have two kids now, it's just too much to
be under the thumb to produce a radio show every week.
And yeah, but I'll keep the podcast going. They still
continue to host the podcast. That's why you hear commercials
in my podcast. It's because they still host the podcast.
So iHeartMedia is still going to put their ads on
the you know, interject them in my podcast. I hope
(01:42):
I've been. I went back and listened. They just kind
of insert ads anywhere. So I apologize for that. I
apologize if I'm mid sentenced sometimes and then they just
put an AD and break an AD break in there
for god knows what.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
That I don't see it dying for.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I wonder if AI would be good enough at least
to kind of sense a break in the conversation or
detect the chains in subject matter and then naturally put
an AD break between that natural breaking point. But I
don't think Speaker works like that. Spreaker is the back
end for iHeartMedia, and thus Speaker is the back end
obviously for Geek Therapy radio podcast. But anyways, that's just
(02:19):
a little bit of behind the scenes, kind of out
of the way. I am recording through my DGI mics too,
and I am currently using the built in noise reduction
of the MIC pack. I have it in standalone mode.
It's not attached to a camera, it's not attached to
any other different source that I'm recording into. It's just
(02:39):
I'm recording into the internal memory of the MIC pack
and I'm using the built in noise reduction of the
DGI mic too. So I will let you know in
the podcast description if I had to add any more
noise canceling. I am in the vehicle right now, so
we're going to see how it does with me driving
in road noise just the built in noise reduction of
(03:00):
the of the MIC pack. But if I do decide
if I need to, I will run this through da
Vinci Resolve for some more noise reduction, like I said,
if I need to, but I will disclose that information
in the podcast description for full disclosure. So check the
podcast description to see if I'm adding any more noise
canceling on top of the built in noise canceling, noise
(03:23):
reduction of the DGI MIC's two pack. So here's the
real reason for the podcast today. And I think just
recording these in the cars is kind of the way
it's gonna go, at least for the time being, because
it seems like that's the only time I have, you know,
fifteen twenty thirty minutes or more of me time is
gonna be while I'm in the in the car. So
(03:44):
the real reason for the podcast today is the past
few podcasts, past two sporadically re released podcast I've been
talking about the DGI Neo and the GGI mics too.
Obviously I have the DGI mikes too. I mentioned that
in the last podcast you know what I got in
the mail? It is as of recording. It is October
second right now, and the dg I Neo is not
(04:09):
supposed to be released in the United States until October sixth,
which means that it wouldn't be in people's hands until
October eighth, you know, given a day or two for shipping.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
But I have the DGI neo. They sent it to me.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I actually got the DJI Neo on September thirtieth, so
I don't know, I haven't before the I didn't research
before the podcast to see if any other North American
buyers have their neo yet. But I kind of like
suspect that this is an under cell over deliver situation
to where they probably released the DJI Neo early, at
(04:47):
least to some people, to kind of I don't know why.
I always I figured that, you know, like everyone else
in North America, I would get my DGI Neo on
October eighth, possibly octo Ober seventh, because it was going
to be released on October sixth the North America.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But I have it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I got it on September thirtieth. I was not expecting
that the DHL driver showed up on my doorstep with
a box, and I just thought it was the remote
Like I ordered the d GI uh RCN three whatever
to be compatible with remote control operation of the neo.
So I was just expecting, Okay, sure the controller gets
(05:25):
here early. The controller, the DJR, DJI RC and three
controls obviously more than just the neo. It's gonna what
else does it control? The air three s Like there's
it's a new transmission system. It's like the main thing.
So it has h I figured all right, there's maybe
there's already DGI drones that can use the d g
(05:48):
R N RCN three. So it makes sense that the
d g r R c N three comes out before
the neo because there's probably already products out that the
N three connects to. No the RC and three actually
arrived a day later after the neo, so I was
really really genuinely surprised and delighted when I saw open
(06:09):
the box expecting just the remote control and saw, oh,
it's the DJI Neo, and then the next day I
got the remote control. Let me tell you, as somebody
who probably is one of the first people in the
United States, I.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Don't think I'm the only one.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
There's no way I'm the freaking only one in the
United States who got the DJI Neo early before October sixth,
But I might be one of a few like the
first batch, I guess. If you remember in past podcast
or two, I mentioned that, mark my words, they all
do a firmware update, like a massive firmware update before
(06:43):
the North American release to fix the video quality issues
and standalone mode and a few other little things. So
there was one minor update that came out with some
little bug fixes, it's not what it was. Nothing major,
so they have released They were at least a firm
More update, uh, just a few days after its released.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
After its release in Asia.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And across other parts of the world, I don't know
when it came out in Europe, but there was a
minor firm More update, and I thought they would have
a firm More update before a major firm or update
before the North American release, but I got mined before
October sixth, So yeah, it's pre major update. There's been
no major firm More update as of yet, so I
(07:29):
had the the DJI Neeo pre major firm re update.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Let me tell.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Y'all, I after seeing so many reviews as maybe some
of y'all have about the DJ Neo and the just
the massive clap back that the video quality and standalone
mode is is is legitimately awful. I was kind of
with baited breath wondering how this neat, how it would perform.
(07:55):
And I saw this reviews that say is really cool
in this regard and and really bad in this regard.
So I have never had more fun with the drone.
The last time I had this much fun with a
drone was probably when I got my first Phantom.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I think I got the Phantom.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Two, Gold Edition, Premium Edition, whatever, like twenty fifteen is
when I got I think my first drone is a
big old Phantom and you can't fold it up, and
it's not compact at all. It's just a big, flying,
giant white albatross of a drone. I haven't but I
had a lot of fun with it because it was
my first drone. I had never had a drone before,
(08:35):
and it was a very unique experience. This Dji Neo
has been nothing but a permanent grin on my face,
just even in standalone mode. Yes, the video quality currently
as of recording, as of recording in standalone mode is
not very good. When you im poured it into a
(08:56):
video editor, it's not good at all. Actually, when you
you know you you zoom in and blow it up.
It looks awful when I put when I put footage
that I recorded in standalone mode into Da Vinci Resolve,
it's awful, truly awful. You zoom in and it's just blocky,
(09:16):
blotchy awfulness. It looks okay on social media though, if
you're just watching it on your phone screen and you're
not pinching and zooming into pixel peek. The standalone mode
looks great, well, it looks acceptable, looks good. Sorry, I
had to honk at somebody driving like an absolute moron.
(09:39):
Good lord, people are stupid. Full disclosure, not to get
too sidetracked. I am following behind my wife and second
born child, my five month old baby, who is ahead
of being a minivan. And there are people just basically
putting her life in my son's life in danger at
the moment, and I'm kind of watching from them. They're
(10:00):
fine now, they're fine. Now is just one driver, and
there was a couple of drivers road raging with each
other around the minivan which my wife and.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Child are in front of it, in front of me.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
All good now, gosh. Anyways, back to the djeneo. Yeah,
and standalone mode. The footage looks awful when you pixel peep.
When you pixel peepe, However, when you put it into
it also looks awful when you control it. By the way,
it also looks awful when you control it just with
your smartphone, that footage also looks terrible.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
There's no adjustments you can make. It's just awful.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And standalone mode and it's awful currently in smartphone control mode. Now,
when you do pair it to a controller though the
dj I R C and three in my case, and
two and three whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
The footage looks quite acceptable.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It actually looks it really looks not bad at all.
Like it. It's really usable well because in the controller
you can dial in sharpness. You can reduce the sharpness, which,
by the way, if you got a dj I e
O and you have the you're controlling it with an RC,
immediately go into the camera settings and the style menu
(11:16):
and just drop that sharpness down the lowest it can go,
which is negative too. It starts out at zero. You
can put it up to plus one, but put it
down the sharpness. Put the sharpness down to negative two
and you'll be all. You'll be right as rain. The
noise reduction you can also adjust. The noise reduction also
goes down to negative two, negative one, zero, and then
(11:37):
plus one.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I believe it's just plus one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I did some testing with all the different noise reduction
modes for film noise reduction, video noise reduction mode with
the DJI Neo and with the noise reduction all the
way the lowest. Yeah, there's a little noise. There's there's
a noise around kind of jagged edges, and there's a
lot of what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Not noir?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What's the word I'm looking for? When when straight edges,
there's aliasing, you can notice im aliasing. There's noise in
like the leaves of trees on the ground. It's not terrible,
and it's nothing that I don't think a video editor,
you know, a linear editor could kind of deal with.
But I cranked it all the way up the noise reduction.
I cranked it all the way up to plus one.
(12:24):
In my opinion, zero or plus one is kind of
where you want to leave the noise reduction. When you're
controlling the DGI Neo with an RC, it looks good.
It looks good enough that I would I would have
no problem using it in a pinch, like if I
just needed to have a tiny little run and gun
drone just in my backpacker, even in my pocket.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
The neo is minisculant.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The neo makes my Mini three pro look like an albatross,
like it makes the VIDI three pro look like a
C five Galaxy bomber or something like that, which is
crazy because the Mini three Pro and the Mini four
Pro are already very small. The Mini four K is
slightly smaller than the Mini three's and the Many four pros,
(13:09):
but the Neo in comparison like makes the Mini series
of DGI drones look massive. But if all I had
was the Neo and the remote control, you could absolutely
get usable footage with the DJI Neo in its current iteration,
with its current firmware version, even right now before any
major updates, you can get very usable footage out of
(13:30):
the Neo. The biggest issue I found with the Neo though,
flying with the controller. I'll let y'all know the currently
the max altitude is four hundred feet or three hundred
and ninety three feet what is it, one hundred meters,
one hundred and twenty meters, whatever it is. You cannot
go above that. You cannot set the altitude higher than that.
(13:50):
Like in my Magic three Pro and I think Mini
three Pro you can set the altitude up to like
sixteen hundred feet in Freedom units, but the DGI Neo
has a maximum altitude of around four hundred feet. You
can't go above that. And that's good. This is to
my point here, that's good that you can't go over
three hundred and ninety three feet or whatever because this
thing gets tossed in the wind. It's not horrible, it's
(14:13):
not horrible at all. But in situations that are kind
of breezy and gusty, where I'd feel okay with the
Mini three Pro or I'd definitely feel okay with my
big boy Mavic three Pro, those same conditions where I
would be okay with with the bigger drones are.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
A no go with a Neo.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It gets it gets pushed around quite a bit, and
the gimbal only works in the up and down axis,
so it doesn't have any kind of roll to it
to the gimbal, So if the drone is tilted you
know left or right, you know, fighting against across across twind,
the footage gets slanted and you'll get all sorts of
warnings on the screen saying, you know, high wind. That
(14:54):
high wind warning comes on a lot sooner than it
would and the Mini three Pro or definitely the Mavic
three Pro.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So that is a consideration. That is a consideration.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
If I'm out and about running gun filming whatever, and
let's say I'm in the great outdoors of like Wyoming
or something, and it's kind of windy, I can't I'm
not going to put the drone up in the air.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'm certainly not going to put it more than four
hundred feet.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
If I put it up four hundred feet at all,
I might get at ten feet in the air somewhere
close somewhere within, just very close to the ground. That's
kind of a rule of thumb with any drone that
you fly. If you're in gusty wind conditions and you're
you're risking a fly away or whatever, you need to
lower your altitude. You need to go down further towards
it's not gusty to where you're not hitting trees or
(15:35):
any obstructions around you, but you definitely need to lower
your altitude to get out of those higher winds aloft.
That goes for any aircraft that flies in the sky. Ever,
it's less windy usually at ground level. So if you
get these high wind warnings in your drone and you're
worried about it, you need to drop. You need to
drop down in altitude to get to a less windy altitude.
(15:58):
The trade off is sometime if you have to drop altitude,
you might go below some obstructions, like maybe there's a
building or some trees at are one hundred and twenty
feet high and you need to drop it down to
one hundred feet, you might lose connection with the RC controller.
So just do your best. That's all part and parcel
to say that the three hundred and ninety three foot
altitude limit of the DGI neo is wonderful. I have
(16:20):
no complaints about that. Maybe there's some people that say,
I wish you could go up a thousand feet. Why
is it restricted to just four hundred feet. Trust me,
this is a good move on dji's part to lock
it to three hundred and ninety three feet. That's at
two hundred feet. I was one hundred fifty feet two
undred feet up. I went up to four hundred feet
and my drone was drifting. It was just getting blown
by the wind. So I lowered it down to one
(16:41):
hundred and twenty feet more reasonable, and it was still
listing to the right a little bit. In the crosswind
sport mode, I was able to get it up to
like ten or twelve miles per hour. It's not very
fast in sport mode, it looks quicker because it's a
tiny drone. But for instance, the sport mode and my
Magic three Pro is about almost fifty miles an hour.
It's like forty seven forty eight miles per hour last
(17:02):
time I checked it over the weekend. So yeah, the
Neo is much slower. It's a lot louder too. It's
more annoying. That is something to keep in mind. I mean,
you'll get used to it. Anytime you have a drone
with real small rotors, you're gonna have a lot more
high pitched wine to it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's to be expected.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's not a big deal, but people, I think they
definitely notice it more. I flew my Mini three Pro
today and inside in a building and it was barely
audible over there's a water fountain inside of this building
that I was flying inside of. And you, once the
drone got i don't know, twenty feet up in this atrium,
you couldn't hear the drone. You couldn't hear the Mini
(17:41):
three pro over the water anymore. The Neo you absolutely
would have. It would have been a much more higher pitched,
piercing kind of noise. People definitely know the Neo three sorry.
People definitely know the Neo is flying because you just
hear it more. It's a higher pitched wine rather than
a lower pitched hum of a bigger drone.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Something to keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Moving on to kind of other specs just off the
top of my head as I'm driving and I can
verify it is you can go and verify yourself. The
data rate for video. The maximum data rate for video
currently in the Neo is seventy five megabits per second.
That is the maximum video rate if you follow me
(18:25):
on x, Twitter, x, whatever you want to call it.
I did a series of posts going over kind of
my initial kind of testing of the drone, So like
how fast is it charged? By the way, it charges
at about eleven watts. If you plug a USB cable
directly into the Neo, it charges at two amps five
volts two amps. The fly More Combo triple battery pack
charger will charge over a charge about sixty five watts.
(18:48):
I mean, it's it's truly quick charging, power delivery, quick charging.
Just charging the battery in the drone itself is eleven watts.
Is where I maxed out five volts eleven watts. It
equals about two amps effectively, but that data rate, it's
a half inch censor. The sensor on the Neo is
a half inch image sensor, not very big, and the
(19:10):
data rate maxes out at seventy five megabits per second.
I did a read and write speed of the hooking
up the USB cable the Type C cable to the
Neo in opened crystal disc or whatever disc writing software.
I used to see how fast that writes to the
internal storage. There's no micro SD card slot on the drone.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
You have to.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Exclusively use the built in storage, which is like twenty
three gigabytes. It's good, it's decent. It just means you
have to offload your footage more often, but that's fine.
What was I gonna say, I'm pulling into the parking
lot here, I gotta wrap up the podcast. Yeah, so
I did. The disc read and write is thirty megabytes
(19:54):
per second, which equals to about two hundred and twenty
or so megabits per second. So well, that's to say
there's a lot more bandwidth available to record with. So
I bet you that when you record later on with
the drafter and update, I bet you they there's no
reason why they couldn't add a log profile. In my opinions,
(20:15):
because it's at seventy five megabits per second, but the
read and write speeds are over two hundred megabits per second,
so there's there's there's wiggle room there. I'm going to
positive recording here because I'm about to go into this
new daycare and check it out. But I'm gonna hit
stop recording and come back at a later time.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Hold on a SECD. I only have a few more minutes.
I'm gonna start wrapping up with this.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
About the DJI Neo, I kind of talked about the
specs half in censure. Currently, the maximum video bit rate
is seventy five megabits per second. I did the read
and write speeds of the internal storage and I measured
it to be around two hundred and twenty two hundred
and thirty megabits per second, So there are there is.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Room to grow theoretically. I'm not an engineer.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I don't know in future for more updates where I
think they could add lat color profiles and such, maybe
other recording modes like ten eighty one twenty something like that.
Oh gosh, what was I going to say in that regard?
I just had something in that regard. Oh, the other
evidence that I think that's coming in a future firm.
(21:16):
More update is when you go into the app and
in the remote control in the settings, there is settings
that say color profile, and the only option underneath it
right now says normal. So why would that be in
the menu if they don't plan on adding more color
profiles to the menu. Very interesting, So I think there's
(21:40):
there's there's bandwidth meat on the bone, and there's already
some options in the in the settings that indicate future
color profile and different video settings, possibly even recording in
H two, six, five or or what. So I think
(22:01):
it's promising. I think there's gonna be big updates with
the DJI Neo coming up here shortly. That tracks because
Dji had does this all the time. Like I mentioned
the previous podcast, the Matvic three pro the super telephoto
lens was awful at launch, and then they did for
more updates and added more features to it and it
looks great now, and so I don't think anything's gonna
(22:24):
change with the Neo. The last few minutes here of
the podcast, though, I want to mention why I'm having
the most fun I've had with the drones since I
first got a drone in twenty fifteen handheld mode like
standalone mode where you just aiming at your face or
aiming at yourself and tap the button on top and
select between orbits and helixes and follow me modes and
(22:48):
all sorts of things. It's so good the obstacle avoidance.
It doesn't have any dedicated cameras for obstacle avoidance. It
has the downward facing sensors so that you so it
can see you, see your palm, and you can land
it in your palm. It has things like that, but
it only has the one main camera in front. There's
(23:10):
no rear side or upwards obstacle avoidance. But whatever algorithm
just out of the box, just out of the box.
The obstacle avoidance algorithm just using the main camera is
wicked good. I tested the following mode with my Mini
three pro and it is barbaric compared to how good
(23:30):
follow me is with the Neo.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I hope whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Algorithms they're using in the Neo makes its way to
the bigger drones, because the Neo is sorcery with how
good it follows you. If you walk directly into the sunlight,
like the camera's facing directly into the sun, it'll lose you.
It's too bright, washed out, it can't track you anymore.
That's that makes sense. Why are people going so slow? No,
(23:55):
dag nabbitt, I don't want to go.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Illegal. We're in Texas, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The follow me mode with the Neo with even without
obstacle avoid is whatever algorithm they're using just from the
main camera is mind bendingly good.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It is so good.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And that's one reason why it's so fun. It's so
fun to just have it in your hand. No controller.
You don't even whip out the app on your phone
or anything. You just put in your palm of your hand,
face it towards you, tap a button or two and
it's following you, or it's doing a droney, it's doing
these kind of creative quick shots. My son Riiker loves it.
He has we've hadn't been having so much fun with
(24:36):
the drone. He's almos He's not even four years old.
He'll be four years old this month. He already knows
how to operate it. This kid, I'm thinking it back
to when I was four years old. This kid is
four years old and he knows how to operate a drone. Now,
he pushes the button, he counts to three, and the
drone talks to you and says, what is it? Orbit mode?
Close three two one, and then it takes off. It's
(24:58):
really really cool, really intuitive. It lands in your hand
like a feather. The second it touches the skin of
your palm, the rotors shut off and the rotors are
all completely enclosed in their protective cages.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
This drone is so much fun to operate in handheld
mode and standalone mode. I just wish there was a
way to use the app to kind of preset the
standalone mode video settings. That will probably come down the
pipe hopefully, but just right now in its current standalone version, amazing,
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Riker loves it. I love it. It is so fun.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It's two hundred bucks. It's Dji's cheapest drone by far.
It is phenomenal. There are some shortcomings like I mentioned,
but like it is hard not to recommend this, and
it's durable. It is durable. I don't think Riker can
stomp on it. I don't think it survived that, but
it has bashed off buildings. It follows you. I've walked
through narrow doorways and it follows me like a just
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like sorcery through these narrow doorways. And even if it
kind of bumps something, it doesn't stop following you. Like
if it's not a bad bump, like if it kind
of ricochets off the wall or something like that, it
kind of goes wa but it keeps following you. It
doesn't immediately get knocked out if it hits a tree
branch or something. If it can still fly, it kind
of adjust and then and keeps going. It is awesome.
(26:22):
And then even if you fly at full speed into
something as fast as the drone can go, it's a survivor.
It maybe gets a scuff for something. This thing is
a battle tank. I today, I just to show a
CALLI at work. I said, check this out, and I
just kind of threw it against the wall kind of
medium and it bounced off the wall. Go down and
check this out. I just turned it on and it
flew perfectly.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
This thing is.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It feels flimsy, but it's built like a tank. It
is completely incredible. I am blown away. All right, I'm
here to pick up biker from daycare. Thank you so
much for listening to Geek Therapy Radio podcast. You are
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