ROG Ally rambling while driving down the Texas coast

Rambling about my experience with the ROG Ally while I drive around the Texas coast birdwatching. https://www.geektherapyradio.com/

Episode Transcript

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SMA showing you set the cruise controlhere, well, radar cruise control.

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I am currently come on, letme click the mic all right, I'm
gonna pin it up here in thevisor and we'll see how this works.
So my mouth hasn't aimed to exactlyright at the microphone at the moment,
but hopefully it'll pick it up.I am cruising down Texas Highway eighty seven
right now. I am along theGulf coast. The Gulf of Mexico is

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currently to my right as I travelnortheast. We are on the Bolivar Peninsula,
and I'm at work right now.I've worked for the Houston Museum and
Natural Science, as y'all know,and I am on a on a work
it's a workday, and we decidedlet's go birding. Let's go bird watching

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down near Galveston in the Bolivar Peninsula. Bolivar, however you want to pronounce
it. So, yeah, that'swhat we're doing. There's a bunch of
cows grazing in a field left tome. This is a very kind of
coastal Texas setting here. If youcan imagine very flat. You got the
ocean on one side, you gotcows on the other, a lot of
houses, a lot of beach houses. That's kind of the what we got

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going on here right now. So, yes, we are bird watching.
We came down I don't even know, since I'm not a birder, I
don't know exactly and specifically what wecame down here to see. But it's
fun. Nonetheless, got my cargopants on, and my fishing T shirt,
which is basically just a long sleeveshirt that breathed really well to protect
you from the sun. My solarpowered fan hat. There's basically a solar

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panel on the top of the hatthat runs a little fan that blows air
over the top of my bald head. But it's very pleasant. Right now,
it is a perfect whatever is itoutside? It is seventy degrees outside
right now, seventy degrees sonny.I wish I had video to go along
with this video or with this podcasthere, but anyways, that's my setting.
I'm trying to paint the picture inyour mind a little bit for you.

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But what I actually wanted to talkabout today, I got a message
on x from my good friend Asoff, who is from Israel. He lives
in Tel Aviv. He safe rightnow. But yeah, thoughts and prayers,
if you are the type to prayand keep people in your thoughts pray
for as offf' that's a difficult situationdown there, to say the least.

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And I don't mean to make anunderstatement about it or diminish the severity of
it. But yeah, So anyways, he sent me a message on x
basically asking about gaming handtaeilds handheld PCs, specifically the Steam Deck the other devices
that are coming out. So youknow, GPD releases a lot of a

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lot of handheld gaming PCs. I'vegot my GPD Win Max two that I've
had since twenty twenty two, twentytwenty three, one of the first GPD
Win Max to come out pecause there'sa twenty twenty four version coming out now
with the I believe it's the seventyseventy eight forty U from AMD. My
GPD Win Max two is the sixtyeight hundred U and the GPU is a
sixty eight hundred M absolutely fantastic Cantelgaming PC. So anyways, ASoft was

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asking me about handteld gaming PCs,he wants to buy one for somebody,
and if I had any experience withthem, or what has been my experience
thus far. And I told himwhat I want to tell all of y'all
that I have experience with the steamDeck, and I have experience with GPD
pockets, the GPD one Max twoand other GPD devices. And I also

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have the a Seuss rog Ally withthe Z one Extreme processor in there,
which I think is just a kindof a differently bend a It's very slightly
different from the seventy eight forty Uwhatever it's. The Z one Extreme is
functionally very similar to another one ofAMD's chips. It's just kind of more

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efficient or whatever. I did anepisode on the rg ally and the Z
one Extreme a few months ago fromVirginia. So anyways, I told this
off. I've had a lot ofexperience with the rog ally and GPD pocket
GPD devices and other Windows handhelt andAndroid handhelds for that matter, and Raspberry
pies and all sorts of things.So the rog Ally that that was why

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my recommendation to him. I said, I've the steam Deck's great, everything
else is great, but I livewith the r O g Ally the z
Z one Extreme addition, and itis absolutely fantastic. He said. One
of his requirements was one of hiswish on the wish list here was was
that he would be able to orthe person he's getting it for, would
be able to use this as aPC. What has my experience been plugging

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a gaming hand he held and usingit as a everyday a PC, and
I told him it functions great asa workstation. The rog ally Z one
Extreme. I was very specific.I said, if you are going to
get an ally, this is kindof my advice to anybody. If you're
going to get an rg ally,get the Z one Extreme version. Don't

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get the cheaper Z one version.You really want the Z one Extreme version
because that has a much better GPUamong other things. But yeah, the
graphical horsepower of the Z one Extremeis night and day more powerful than the
normal Z one version. So Irecommend the Z one Extreme. I have
the Z one Extreme. I kindof wanted to do a follow up podcast

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on my experience using the rg allywith the Z one Extreme as a howard
functions as it kind of a dailydriver, and I can report that it
functions perfectly. You what I toldthis often, what I tell all y'all
too, is it pairs so beautifullywith my Thunderbolt dock, my Thunderbolt hub

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type C hub, all of that, so I have all my external hard
drives running properly. I've got allmy peripherals plugged in, so I've got
dual monitors running off of my Thunderboltdock. Four K sixty absolutely wonderful.
I am backing up here in aminivan, which is hold on, I'm
trying to get out of the wayof my coworker's big old truck because we

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obviously pulled down the wrong street.So you're hearing me backing up a minivan
while I talk to you about theZ one Extreme. I need to see
if I might need to roll downthe window and talk to Mike. If
I do, I will probably justlet you all in on our discussion,
unless it's something proprietary, which Idoubt it. I think literally, we're

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just trying to go to the correctspot right now. But yeah, the
zer one Extreme functions beautifully as adaily driver workstation. I edit four K
videos with it. They're not superintensive edits. The four K edits I've
done on the rog Ally Z oneExtreme are not like super intense four K
edits. They are very basic fourK edits, but it handles them like
a breeze. Even if I useDaVinci Resolve and davincey Resolve runs an absolute

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treat on the Z one Extreme onthe rog Ally z one Extreme edion eight
core, sixteen threads that six eighta M GPU. I keep my GPU.
You can dedicate how as much ofthe RAM as you need to it.
My Z one Extreme our g allyzeron Extreme of sixteen gigabytes of DDR
five RAM, and I allocate threegigabytes of it. Apparently, if you

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go, I I set three gigabytesof it towards VRAMP. That seems to
be the sweet spot. Things thatI've read on Reddit, I think that
you read around the internet. That'skind of the typical case. Here.
Now, I'm gonna strap this microphoneto my shirt and I'm gonna walk up
and see what we're doing with Mikehere, team leader. We're basically at

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a bay right now. There's abunch of egrets and cranes and seabirds and
things. But yeah, let meclip this to my shirt real quick,
and let's go Candid, Let's talkto Mike. Let's see what's going on.
Bring you along with me for thispodcast. Here. All right,
I'm exiting my vehicle. Did Iturn it off? Turn it off?
So don't beep at me as Iget out here. All right, let's

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see what's going on. Definitely onprivate property. Let's see what else.
So we're looking for the the BayGrants the Life. It's the long Long
Spur, collared Long Spur. Thatsthe one that was on the news,
and everyone's like the people solved here, I'm lets do all right, I'll

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wait for all all right, yougot all right? So we're just plugging
in the new courtin. It's apparentlywe went the wrong direction, but it's
not not a big deal. Everything'skind of well. I was gonna say
everything's kind of nearby down here.That is not the truth at all.
The Texas coastline goes for hundreds ofmiles, but we are I don't know

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if you heard in the conversation thatwe just had about nineteen minutes away from
our next stop to look for thechestnut ridge something chestnut whatever. Oh,
there goes a barge. I shouldbe recording video of this. There goes
a barge over there. Anyways,all right, back to the Z one
extreme I've been. I've been usingit. Ooh, Mike, Oh,

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he just drove over a big oldbrick. That's fine, a railroad road
piece of railroad would I don't knowwhat railroad tie. It's not a tie.
Is it a tie? Yeah?Railroad type? You drive a spike
into it because the rails all right. Anyways, Mike drove over it,
and I think he knocked over asign. I don't know. But anyways,

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we're nineteen minutes away from apparently wherewe need to go next, or
where we should be. I thinkwe're gonna post up there once you get
there and need some lunch. Sorry. Back to rog ally in my experienced
daily drive, and I have editedfour K video with it, I have
allocated as I was mentioning before Igot out of the vehicle that I said

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it the sweet spot on the sixteengigabyte model seems to be setting the v
RAM, allocating three gigabytes to vRAM that leaves, you know, twelve
thirteen gigabytes left over for Windows touse and for games to use. Three
gigabyte seems to be the sweet spot. I usually when I'm in handheld mode,
and that's one of the reason whyI recommend that the RG ally to

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manybody curious. Right now, outof all the crop of current handhelds,
you can get a Z one Extremeand a Z one don't get a Z
one, But I'm just saying bothof the models are frequently on sale.
A soft in Israel said that hesaw one for sale for the equivalent of
less than five hundred US dollars fora Z one Extreme, and I was
like, yeah, that's that's abargain all day long. So, yes,

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it is a little bit more expensivethan a steam deck, but it
is much much, much more powerfulthan a steam deck. So when I
have it hooked up in workstation modeto my Thunderbolt hub and I have got
the dual screen monitors and o leaddisplays and all my hard drives and hooked
up to the NAZ and all sortsof whatever, it works beautifully as a

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as my work PC all day long, up to and including editing four K
videos. Ten ADP videos wouldn't evenbreak a sweat four K videos. It
is more than doable, and Ihave a very pleasant time when I edit
a four K video on my rogally. So, but when I'm done
for the day and I unhook it. I don't need it running obviously.

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The screen in is like a twelvehundred P screen. I don't think it's
not for definitely not four K,but I think it's twelve hundred if not
nineteen much twenty. I gotta lookit up anyways, I en handheld mode
when I undock it. When Iunplug it from the thunderbowlt Hub, I
like to run in seven to twentyP because it's a seven inch screen.

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I'm almost certain it's a seven inchscreen. This time I went back a
double check seven inch screen and seventwenty P seven inches quite frankly looks great
and you save a bit on thebattery life. Looking from seven to twenty
P to ten EIGHTP on that screendoesn't I can't tell a whole mess of
difference. I'm usually running emulators anyways. You know, Super Mario Brothers three,

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is it really gonna look much betterat ten eighty as it does at
seven twenty Because I believe Super Mariobrother a native resolution is two hundred P
if that might not even be thatit's very low resolution. So super My
Brothers three anys at seven twenty Plooks fantastic for you antiastic. Yeah,

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I don't think I could pull outin this time. This is one of
the things about and this is kindof whe're gonna more geek therapy radio,
you know on the cuff, likethis gets kind of funny, is that?
Uh? Now, I'm at atea intersection here, and you're just
hearing me vamp. Well, I'mat a t intersection of two lane interstate
and it's not even an interstate,it's just a Texas Coastal highway. I

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am now probably half mile behind whoI'm supposed to be following. So there
we go. I'm getting the phonecall from Mike right now. Let me
see what he's got to say.It's up, Mike. Hey, dude,
I see you're back there a littlebit. Yeah, we're Texas eighty
seven for thirteen miles. Okay,so you're on this for for a spell,

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all right? Yeah, man,just all right, just call me
where you turn off? I guess. Okay, do you have your next
turn on here? What is it? It's eighty seven until Yacht Basin.
Yeah. Oh okay, so Ican the other Yeah, so I could

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just tell GPS take me to YachtBasin. Yeah, probably twelve miles from
here. Yeah, yacht Basin.Okay, awesome, all right, cool
man, cool see you there?All right, brother, alright, see
you bye. What's the speed limithere? I don't want to get a
ticket. Is this a cop?No, that's just a Cadillac. Oh,

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it's listening to me. Take meto yacht Basin. There we go
nine minutes. Google for the wind. Oh it's fifty five miles an hour
long here? Okay, So backto rg ally where even freaking was I?

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Oh? Yeah, emulators look greatat seven twenty P. When I'm
in handheld mode, I usually playat seven to twenty P, even when
I'm playing something like, oh gosh, what is it? Man? What's
the game teardown? I've been playing, you know a lot of teardown recently,
especially with Riker. Teardown looks amazingand runs amazing on the rog ally.

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The other thing is even at someoneseven twenty p looks amazing, just
wonderful. Did you know that teardown? It looks amazing. Obviously, it
looks amazing. It's kind of,I don't know, for somebody who's not
kind of familiar, it's kind ofit's pixely, kind of like mind minecrafty
in my kind of way, itused all these little blocks to build the

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world. Anyway, it's teardown.It's amazing and it looks amazing. And
guess what that One of the commonquestions that people ask about teardown I've seen
in their key a on the websiteand everything, is what what are you
using for ray tracing? What ismore efficient for the rate? Should I
use a m D for the raatetracing? Or are you are you more
coded towards in videos ray tracing andall that, and the response from the

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the studio that makes tear down,which I forget what the studio is is
that neither it's it's all proprietary.It is whatever the engine they're using is
what they've designed. They're not usingyou know, Uh, it's it's not
going to help the ray tracing capabilitywhether you're using in video versus a m

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D, because the code is notwritten for in video or a m D.
It's it's written for both. It'sthere. It's their code that they
develop for their rate tracing, whichlooks like absolutely incredible. It's crazy how
good it looks. We are notthat close to yacht basin. No,
my maps is telling me I needto turn here. Man, you're listening.

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This is just geek therapy radio.That's how we find then make a
U turn. Yeah, I guessit's them. No, that's not it.
That's a that's a yoda and thatmake a U turn. Now one
thousand feet turn right onto west lane. That ain't them. They're not a
yacht basin. That's that was tooclose somedays. Yeah, tear down.

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It doesn't use unreal engine, doesn'tuse anything like that as their own proprietary
engine and it's their own proprietary ratetracing and whatever. So when I play
it on the Z one Extreme,this is kind of what I'm going with
this rog al I. You caneverything about it is very customable, so
you can customize the TDP, youcan customize all sorts of things on it.

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And I typically run it at sevenwatts, which is I believe the
lowest about you can go is runningat seven watts. That's that's that's gonna
run ninety nine percent of all theemulators. I'm gonna run seven watts,
get all the battery life out ofit. Seven to twenty p sixty frames
a second, lock the screen,you know, sink the screen to sixty
frames is a seven to twenty sevenwatts. It runs very good bat Ree

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life in that setup. Also,since you can tweak the TDP on the
fly as needed. When I'm gonnarun something like teardown. Teardown doesn't run
great on seven watts, bump thatup to it runs. It runs good
at ten watts. It runs greatat fifteen watts. Fifteen watts is the

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sweet spot for the rog all I. Fifty watts is a sweet spot for
a lot of of the U chips, the APU chips, the sixty eighty
U seven d A forty U whateverfrom AMD. Fifteen watts is like the
butter the buttermark. You can goall the way up to I believe thirty
five watts. I think you cango up to thirty peak to thirty eight
watts really, which is insane insideof a handheld. But yeah, fifteen

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watts is like that sweet spot wherethings it's very it's diminishing returns when you
go to anything above fifteen watts thatevery pretty much ninety percent of anything you
ever want to do is gonna rungreat at fifteen watts. And then if
you need the extra headroom. Youcan bump it up to thirty five thirty
eight wats I think is the max. It peaks at thirty eight wants,

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but you can. You can setthe water jellawhip just to live at thirty
five watts, just to keep itall the way cranked the whole time at
thirty five wants. That's I woulddo twenty eight thirty twenty eight to thirty
five wats whatever. If I'm gonnabe doing video editing sessions, I'd probably
just leave it on automatic. Youknow, you can bober and just pull
as much power as it's But yeah, so if I'm running something like an

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emulator like any as emulator, I'mrunning at seven watts. If I'm running
tear Down, I'm gonna bump itup to ten fifteen watts to have a
smooth experience there. If I wantto even better experience, I can bump
it up to thirty five watts,but it's kind of diminishing returns if I
want those extra If you rames persecond, you can do that for sure,
but I typically keep it about fifteenwants for playing a game like Teardown.

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Rocket League runs great at fifteen watts, so it works beautifully as a
workstation PC. The RGLI works beautifullyas a workstation PC. If you can
only buy one computer, you know, and you want something that's going to
fit the bill, Like you're wonderingif you can get a game, a
Windows gaming hand held and still beable to do real computer things with it.

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Absolutely one hundred percent you can thatperformance. Let's say if this was
a laptop for under five hundred dollars, I mean a soft he said that
he was able to find one forthe equivalent of like five hundred and eighty
US dollars. Do you want extremesixteen gigabyte whatever for under five hundred dollars?
The performance is on par very veryclose to, if not better than

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a lot of other models. Like, if you're going to buy a laptop
under five hundred dollars, what kindof performance would you expect that of it?
I bet you you can get aneight core, sixteen thread five hundred
dollar laptop all day long with thesame probably rise in sixty eight hundred rise
in seventy eight forty chip in there, and it's you're going to get the
same performance whether it's a handteld gamingPC or the laptop as long as that

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chip in there is the same theseven eight forty U sixty eight hundred U
Z one extreme whatever five hundred dollarsfor a gaming handtuff for the rog ally
is going to get you the sameperformance as a laptop of the same price
point, so you can be asafe bet there. The drawbacks, of
course, are going to be thatyou have effectively only the one Thunderbolt port

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on the top. There's an OCULNKport also up there too if you want
to hook up to an external GPUwith even more bandwidth than thunderbolts. But
you are trading ports in io ifyou want to get a gaming handteld versus
a laptop. Obviously a laptop's goingto have more USB ports, more Type
C ports, You're going to havethe maybe an SD card reader in there,

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but that's all kind of laptop stuff. So if you're okay with loot
getting, you know, not havingthose ports native on the system and just
having one Thunderbolt port in an OCUlink port or OCU sync what do you
call it port than gaming handteld.But as far as like using it as
a daily PC, yeah, it'snot as convenient as a laptop where it's
a clamshow and you open up andthe keyboards there. But why I love

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the Ally is that I can,like I said, I can plug it
into my hub. I can plugit into my Thunderbolt a hub, my
Thunderbolt dock and be hooked up tomy multiple monitors and my keyboard and my
mouse and my multiple hard drives andmy NAS and all that, and it
functions beautifully. And then at theend of the day, all it is
is unplug the one cable and gokick it on the couch playing emulators.

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Same device works everywhere, and ithas great performance no matter what you're trying
to do, gaming on the couch, editing four K video. Rog Ally
handles it all. I cannot recommendit enough. And again one of the
main reasons in it, this iskind of the end we'll all start wrapping
up the podcast here because we're probablyabout to pull up. One of the

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reasons is that it's just so wellsuited everywhere, and the price is right.
If this was one thousand dollars,if it was a Z one Extreme
sixteen gigabyte whatever, seven inch screen, ten ADP dead at a one hundred
and twenty years whooptee free can do, but it cost one thousand dollars.
No, I would not say Iwouldn't necessarily not recommend the ally if it

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was one thousand dollars, I certainlywouldn't, But price wouldn't be the main,
you know, the only reason Iwould recommend it at a thousand.
But it does help that it's nota thousand. It does help that.
It's that you can get the zeExtreme RG ally for not too much more
than a new Steam deck and havemany folds more power you can you I

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would not ask my worst enemy toedit four K video on a Steam Deck.
I'm not saying that it can't bedone at all. I mean,
I bet you haven't. I've nottried to edit four K video with a
Steam deck. I've not tried touse a Steam deck as a workstation PC.
But the GPU in there is noteven half the power that is in
the Z one Extreme Z one ExtremeI believe, I believe it as twelve

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execution units, and I believe theSteam deck has three or four tops,
maybe six tops, So the graphicsare in the The graphics part of the
chip in the Z one Extreme RGally is you know, two or three
times more powerful than the steam deck, So you're not probably going to be

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editing four K on the steck asas nicely as you will on the rog
ally So the fact that you getall that power for not much more than
a brand new steam deck. Soa brand new steam deck is going to
run you about the same as aused or a refurbished rog ally z E
one Extreme. Maybe it's one hundreddollars more. It's it's it's within one

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hundred and fifty bucks between a usedrog ally Ze one Extreme and a brand
new steam deck. You can geta brand new steam deck now I think
it's below three hundred dollars what isit. It's like two fifty two sixty.
You can get like the lowest tierrefurbished steam deck last I checked,
which is pretty cool. I meanthat's slow enough now to make me be

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like, I'm kind of curious.I don't know when I'm going to play
the steam deck. When I'm gonnause it, I'm gonna use it,
but it's now it's cheap enough tolike peek my curiosity to to be uh,
you know, one or two whiskeysdeep, to be a few SIPs
into a rum and coke and seethat thing in your in your steam cart

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and like, uh, maybe onemore sip of this rum and coke and
then I'll hit by it. Nowthat's the price of the steam deck I
used. Steam Deck is now tothat point where it's basically one rum and
coke away from getting bought. Thisnew version of Geek Therapy Radio where I
released these these one off podcast kindof but between the pod, between the

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broadcasts, these are I think they'regonna lean just more towards like dad dad,
geek geek dad kind of stuff.And I've already a lot several of
you have already come out of thewoodwork when I pose the question should I
just make Geek Therapy Radio a podcastfor geek dads, because so many geek
dads fellow geek fathers out there commiseratewith the fact the balancing act between family

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and your hobbies that you obviously,if you have two kids or whatever,
you're not gonna have unlimited infinite freetime to play videos or do crafts or
art or whatever you're gonna You're gonnahave to do a little bit better.
You have to budget your time waymore. If you here's my experience.
Here's I'm gonna commiserate with the geekdads a little bit. You here's what
you think a lot of because Ifell on the same kind of boat where

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I was like, all right,well, you see these commercials where like
the parent they put the kids tobed, and then the parents are like
dancing and eating Oreo cookies and justhaving a great time because now the kids
are in bed, and now theycan dance, and they can do their
fun things, and they can Netflixand chill and they can do what like
play their video games or whatever.Yeah, that's not real. That's not

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real. For long. This isMy've been my experience to where you know,
I put Riker to bed and youthink, all right, I'm gonna
just play video games all night long. Now now I have my free time
back. Now once you put yourkid to bed. Here's what really happens
with most parents, I would imaginebecause this is what happened for me.
But I imagine my situation is notunique. And if you're a geek dad

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or a geek mom out there,let me know if I'm kind of if
I'm off, or if I'm righton the money with this. But what
happens when you put your kids tobed, is you basically fall asleep yourself,
Like you're not necessarily looking forward toplaying Sniper Elite five for four hours
before going to bed. Now,when Riker goes down and you fall asleep

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around nine ps, I am basicallyI've got enough energy to like maybe watch
one episode of Shogun, and I'veprobably fallen asleep halfway through that, and
a lot of times. I'm noteven picking Shogan because it's a lot of
subtitles, it's Japanese, and Ijust I'm so tired. I don't want
to read text. If I'm goingto Netflix and chill for an hour before

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bed, I'm gonna put on likeWorkaholics or Sunny in Philadelphia or some show
that I've seen a hundred times beforewhere I don't have to really watch or
pay attention, and I will havemy rog ally and I will play the
emulators. I'll play Mario Golf.I'm always on Mario Golf. I'll live
there for an hour after putting Rikerto bed, put Netflix on, laid
down on the couch, ready tofall asleep, and maybe maybe maybe play

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Mario Golf. But really, whathappens after you put your kid or your
kids to bed. Isn't like thecommercials where mommy and daddy basically throw a
rave. You put your kids tobed. Half the time you're asleep next
to your kid anyways, Like whenI put Riker to sleep, I fall
asleep with him like that. You'rejust so tired at the end of the
day. The idea of you mighttell yourself, I'm gonna play PS five

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for four hours. Yes, I'mgonna put my kid to bed, and
they'm gonna have daddy time, andI'm gonna maybe have my night cap,
maybe like a rum and coke likeI mentioned or something, and I'm just
gonna play video games for a fewhours and go to bed. No,
ninety percent of the time, youare just about to pass out yourself.
And that's just one of the kindof the roads we navigate as geek dads.

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I wouldn't trade it for the world. I would not trade having children
for the world. Like some peoplemight think romanticize the idea I just want
to put my feet up whenever Iwant and play video games. Well I
did that for a long time,and it's not It wasn't. It wasn't
the cause of happiness any more thanhaving a kid would be the cause of

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happiness. But I would say thatin my experience, having children is much
more fulfilling lifestyle than just there's liketoo much freedom. I guess you can
say sometimes when you when you whenyou're singing and you don't even have a
girlfriend, maybe you don't have awife or whatever, that you think you
have all this time and and butit kind of like too much. Like

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I always say in the show,limitation breeds creativity, and sometimes not having
all the time you want for yourhobbies because you're taking care of kids,
that limited time breeds creativity. That'sthe end of the podcast. We're pulling
off on the side of the roadhere. I think we've got some birds
here in this tall in this tallgrass. We're gonna see what we see.
But yeah, thank you for listeningto this episode. I don't even

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know what to call these in betweenepisodes. Thank you for listening to meeting
Ramble about the rog ally and birdingand being a geek dad. If you
enjoyed it, great, If not, whatever, If y'all have If y'all
listen to this podcast in an appwhere you can like rate it, if
you're like listening to Apple podcasts orSpotify or something that says, rate this
podcast, that'd be cool. Ifyou like it, you can rate it.

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If you don't like it, youcan rate it too. But I
just I don't make that call toaction very often anymore. Yeah, rate
my rate my setup, rate mypodcast. So please do that if you
if you want to other than that, yeah, thank you so much for
listening. You are worthy of love, You're worthy of giving love, you're
worthy of receiving love, and you'reworthy of your own self respect. I'm
gonna exit my minivan right here andsee what the fuss is about with these

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birds in this kind of tall grassmarshland. I should take a picture where
I'm at. I'm gonna, yes, I'm gonna do that. In the
podcast description, you will be ableto find a link, probably to dropbox
or something of of where I'm atright now. I might record a short
video to let let y'all know andkind of see where I'm doing it,
kind of put you in my shoesa little bit for this podcast and where
I'm talking to you from. Anyways, all the good geek stuff. You're

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worthy of love, giving Liversine Iwill talk to you in the next episode.
Take care well, just another wickedof kind. Make a book,
stop to think. We chase somegreen, but it all seems so distant
because I'm chasing other trees. Butcan My mama told me, she said,

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with a different beak, the sablestakes and you'll find the sable shy.
So pop your head and let itride the sha the sittings shut.

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Now, I'm papa thought the worstthat Mamma told me. I'm gonna rock
out of this life, not letit roll me. So I punk out
of the door because I ain't quen. I gotta go when the bread,
gotta keep the family fan. Butthat's all that I can do because I'm
a man. I'm a man.I'm a man, and I gotta stands
So I'm gonna hit the street.I'm on feet, gotta feel the heat,
but it doesn't bother me. Someonegonna be the man. Gotta do

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it while I can. They don'ttake the lord of ball. They're not
doing all I can to be thebest. Then the rest gonna pacifist.
And it's a seeing I don't knowwhat I've been told, but a sureing
or to lose muscle and I've beengoing to lose control for a sure.
Ring got a room every day withthe side, shall you up and take

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out every day with the setting side, the tree and table to love someone's sho